Sep 23, 2019 Public Utilities Board on 2019-09-23 6:00 PM (Amended)
September 23, 2019 Public Utilities Board
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So let's call to order the September 23rd public utilities board meeting for the city of Denton. We have a brief agenda today
Consent items a B and C
Does any board member wish to pull one of the items? I have a question on B and B. Okay, and I have a question on C
How about item a do we have a motion to approve
Second all in favor say aye. Aye motion carries. Okay. I am B
This is the question I had was those the of all the tasks that are enumerated here on this list
There's a city of Denton engineering staff ever do those tasks
No
mostly because of capacity within the
Not that they don't have the the ability and the training to do that because of the capacity and the work that they're currently working on now
There's no free free time to be able to do that
And since it's already been pulled I just had a question is out of 750 solicitations for bids you only had
14 responses. Is that typical actually only at we had 15 responses and one actually removed their
Submission prior to today. So it's not atypical Wow, okay. Yeah, I
Mean
They don't want the work. Well, I'll give you an explanation what a lot of times happens is
Businesses want to do business with the city and so they'll sign up to be notified of all
solicitations, so it may be Carmen it could be anybody and so
So when these go out, it'll go out to hundreds, but it may not be anywhere near in the business in which they do. So a
Lot of times they're just not responsive because it's not in there
But they just want to be notified of any and all good solicitations at the city
And it's an electronic bidding system. It's electronic. So it's just goes to spam. Oh, okay. Yeah
All right
Do we have a motion to approve item B I move
Second all in favor say aye. Aye that carries item C
Charlie pulled see I didn't see my question is pretty brief. I just wanted if you could review
The total feet that are involved and how that compares to just putting in a new sewer line
Okay. Good evening board members Kenny bangs general manager of utilities
the the overall
Believe where we were at about 1800 square feet
it was the bulk of the entirety of the project would be done by pipe bursting and then there was a small segment that was there towards the
generally aligned with the
The alignment of the
access road for i-35 where that piece that was pipe burst will actually connect with a 15 go across that area and then
Link up with another 15 that we have over near the tech stop property. That's right there beside i-35
So does that answer your question or well?
I mean, I guess the second part so you're talking about
1800 ish
Lineal fee that's correct. Okay, and how does that compare in cost to simply laying new sewer pipe?
It's it tends to be quite a bit cheaper because you're not having to unearth it
And so there's two two issues that are involved there one is the physical disturbance of having to actually unearth the old pipe
Physically remove that pipe and then put new pipe in place
Particularly with this area that that would be a pretty tall task. It goes by a hospital a drainage ditch
There's a lot of pavement that's over
Areas there. We've got a few small buildings that have been built in the easement
So from a practical standpoint, it would be difficult to do it with a standard just unearthing and then bedding the pipe
Secondly, it tends to be cheaper just because you don't have all of the equipment mobilization
Excavators things of that nature that you need to actually
Expose the pipe and then pull it out of the ground
The way this process works is it's simply got a large device that goes into the pipe that is designed to
Basically put pressure on the pipe. It has a large air compressor that acts almost like it
For lack of a better word like an impact wrench and it basically will will break the pipe as it goes through
It's guided by a cable
We work manhole to manhole and then basically they pull the larger piece of pipe in behind it
So it's it's pretty much an in situ
Replacement you do have to on occasion
Expose an area near the manholes just simply to give you access to be able to get the cable out
But other than that, it's it's pretty non-invasive. So
Generally, you're going to find that it's going to be much cheaper
Particularly in a situation like this where you have a lot of pavement over the easement
Thank you. Sure. I'll move approval
All in favor say aye aye motion carries
Okay items for individual consideration that prove approval of the minutes of September 9th
Does anyone have any corrections or comments? Yeah, do you have a correction?
These are fairly minor, but it's in reading this I hesitated to even bring it up and I thought no
I need to correct this because
Someone would would read that as it's written and say what idiot asked that question
The first item is pub 19 - 165 when we're talking about the
The dewatering equipment for the sludge
The question I ask this is attributed to me is if there were
acceptance criteria for the engineering of
that new facility and it got translated as
Reception of criteria
Yes, so that was
I can give you the exact wording here. Yeah, and
The answer we got was yes, there is acceptance criteria for the third put acceptance. Yes
And also for the desired moisture content that you want to end up with
That was one thing and then on page four the top of page four the first line
I
Asked if there was a process for noting the actual location of buried lines
on existing drawings
Whenever a project is executed that involved digging in an area known to have buried utility lines
that got translated as
Asking asking how to identify utility drawings. Oh, yes
And it's not quite the same so we can make those changes. Yeah. All right
Then
Do we need a motion to approve with those changes?
Okay, do we have a motion to approve minutes with the changes suggested by mr. Baffert
Barbara second all in favor say aye aye motion carries
Assistant city manager update. Yes, make it fast
You already blew my record
Just a few things to report
We will be coming next month to bring you some information about the energy center just updates on that along with a multifamily recycling
One of the things that's coming in towards the end of October October 23rd, and I believe can make it if she hasn't already
She will be reaching out to board members of the pub to see if you're interested in you doing any facility tours orientation
So if she's done that that'd be great and love to have you all out come out to see our facilities and give a quick
Orientation of kind of what all we do with your utilities and so
October 23rd is that time and if there's some for some reason that we you all can do that
Well, we can find off an alternative date too as well if we need to just wanted to pass that information on
I have nothing else to report
Which brings us to concluding items. Is there any items that a board member would like to have brought forward on the agenda in the future?
I
Do have one. I want to know the metrics of how many people view our meetings
Sure, we can do that. We can bring some information to the next meeting. Okay
Anybody else I
Think this is a record. Do we have a motion to adjourn so we adjourn
And you said okay, we're adjourned