1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,760 So let's call to order the September 23rd public utilities board meeting for the city of Denton. We have a brief agenda today 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,020 Consent items a B and C 3 00:00:12,020 --> 00:00:20,660 Does any board member wish to pull one of the items? I have a question on B and B. Okay, and I have a question on C 4 00:00:20,660 --> 00:00:27,020 How about item a do we have a motion to approve 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,220 Second all in favor say aye. Aye motion carries. Okay. I am B 6 00:00:34,220 --> 00:00:42,760 This is the question I had was those the of all the tasks that are enumerated here on this list 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,160 There's a city of Denton engineering staff ever do those tasks 8 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:49,680 No 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,760 mostly because of capacity within the 10 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Not that they don't have the the ability and the training to do that because of the capacity and the work that they're currently working on now 11 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,200 There's no free free time to be able to do that 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:11,280 And since it's already been pulled I just had a question is out of 750 solicitations for bids you only had 13 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:18,760 14 responses. Is that typical actually only at we had 15 responses and one actually removed their 14 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Submission prior to today. So it's not atypical Wow, okay. Yeah, I 15 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Mean 16 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,640 They don't want the work. Well, I'll give you an explanation what a lot of times happens is 17 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Businesses want to do business with the city and so they'll sign up to be notified of all 18 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,440 solicitations, so it may be Carmen it could be anybody and so 19 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:50,560 So when these go out, it'll go out to hundreds, but it may not be anywhere near in the business in which they do. So a 20 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Lot of times they're just not responsive because it's not in there 21 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,680 But they just want to be notified of any and all good solicitations at the city 22 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:04,960 And it's an electronic bidding system. It's electronic. So it's just goes to spam. Oh, okay. Yeah 23 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,560 All right 24 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Do we have a motion to approve item B I move 25 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Second all in favor say aye. Aye that carries item C 26 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:26,540 Charlie pulled see I didn't see my question is pretty brief. I just wanted if you could review 27 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:34,140 The total feet that are involved and how that compares to just putting in a new sewer line 28 00:02:34,140 --> 00:02:39,640 Okay. Good evening board members Kenny bangs general manager of utilities 29 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:42,640 the the overall 30 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,600 Believe where we were at about 1800 square feet 31 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:54,880 it was the bulk of the entirety of the project would be done by pipe bursting and then there was a small segment that was there towards the 32 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,800 generally aligned with the 33 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,080 The alignment of the 34 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:08,880 access road for i-35 where that piece that was pipe burst will actually connect with a 15 go across that area and then 35 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:15,320 Link up with another 15 that we have over near the tech stop property. That's right there beside i-35 36 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,520 So does that answer your question or well? 37 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,160 I mean, I guess the second part so you're talking about 38 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,160 1800 ish 39 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Lineal fee that's correct. Okay, and how does that compare in cost to simply laying new sewer pipe? 40 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,080 It's it tends to be quite a bit cheaper because you're not having to unearth it 41 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:42,980 And so there's two two issues that are involved there one is the physical disturbance of having to actually unearth the old pipe 42 00:03:42,980 --> 00:03:46,760 Physically remove that pipe and then put new pipe in place 43 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Particularly with this area that that would be a pretty tall task. It goes by a hospital a drainage ditch 44 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,840 There's a lot of pavement that's over 45 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Areas there. We've got a few small buildings that have been built in the easement 46 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:08,540 So from a practical standpoint, it would be difficult to do it with a standard just unearthing and then bedding the pipe 47 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:15,600 Secondly, it tends to be cheaper just because you don't have all of the equipment mobilization 48 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Excavators things of that nature that you need to actually 49 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,260 Expose the pipe and then pull it out of the ground 50 00:04:22,260 --> 00:04:28,600 The way this process works is it's simply got a large device that goes into the pipe that is designed to 51 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Basically put pressure on the pipe. It has a large air compressor that acts almost like it 52 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:42,100 For lack of a better word like an impact wrench and it basically will will break the pipe as it goes through 53 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,600 It's guided by a cable 54 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:50,240 We work manhole to manhole and then basically they pull the larger piece of pipe in behind it 55 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,280 So it's it's pretty much an in situ 56 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,100 Replacement you do have to on occasion 57 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,200 Expose an area near the manholes just simply to give you access to be able to get the cable out 58 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,200 But other than that, it's it's pretty non-invasive. So 59 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,400 Generally, you're going to find that it's going to be much cheaper 60 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Particularly in a situation like this where you have a lot of pavement over the easement 61 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,840 Thank you. Sure. I'll move approval 62 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:22,140 All in favor say aye aye motion carries 63 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Okay items for individual consideration that prove approval of the minutes of September 9th 64 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Does anyone have any corrections or comments? Yeah, do you have a correction? 65 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:38,160 These are fairly minor, but it's in reading this I hesitated to even bring it up and I thought no 66 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,160 I need to correct this because 67 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Someone would would read that as it's written and say what idiot asked that question 68 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:56,120 The first item is pub 19 - 165 when we're talking about the 69 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,920 The dewatering equipment for the sludge 70 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:08,040 The question I ask this is attributed to me is if there were 71 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,000 acceptance criteria for the engineering of 72 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,400 that new facility and it got translated as 73 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Reception of criteria 74 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Yes, so that was 75 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,480 I can give you the exact wording here. Yeah, and 76 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:35,120 The answer we got was yes, there is acceptance criteria for the third put acceptance. Yes 77 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,520 And also for the desired moisture content that you want to end up with 78 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:46,700 That was one thing and then on page four the top of page four the first line 79 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,080 I 80 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,280 Asked if there was a process for noting the actual location of buried lines 81 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,960 on existing drawings 82 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:03,280 Whenever a project is executed that involved digging in an area known to have buried utility lines 83 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,240 that got translated as 84 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,760 Asking asking how to identify utility drawings. Oh, yes 85 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,140 And it's not quite the same so we can make those changes. Yeah. All right 86 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:28,400 Then 87 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Do we need a motion to approve with those changes? 88 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:37,580 Okay, do we have a motion to approve minutes with the changes suggested by mr. Baffert 89 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Barbara second all in favor say aye aye motion carries 90 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Assistant city manager update. Yes, make it fast 91 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,640 You already blew my record 92 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,720 Just a few things to report 93 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:04,680 We will be coming next month to bring you some information about the energy center just updates on that along with a multifamily recycling 94 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,160 One of the things that's coming in towards the end of October October 23rd, and I believe can make it if she hasn't already 95 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:18,140 She will be reaching out to board members of the pub to see if you're interested in you doing any facility tours orientation 96 00:08:18,140 --> 00:08:24,860 So if she's done that that'd be great and love to have you all out come out to see our facilities and give a quick 97 00:08:24,860 --> 00:08:27,900 Orientation of kind of what all we do with your utilities and so 98 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:33,320 October 23rd is that time and if there's some for some reason that we you all can do that 99 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Well, we can find off an alternative date too as well if we need to just wanted to pass that information on 100 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,880 I have nothing else to report 101 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Which brings us to concluding items. Is there any items that a board member would like to have brought forward on the agenda in the future? 102 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,800 I 103 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Do have one. I want to know the metrics of how many people view our meetings 104 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:01,440 Sure, we can do that. We can bring some information to the next meeting. Okay 105 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Anybody else I 106 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Think this is a record. Do we have a motion to adjourn so we adjourn 107 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,960 And you said okay, we're adjourned