Nov 16, 2020 Parks, Recreation and Beautification Board on 2020-11-16 12:30 PM

November 16, 2020 Parks, Recreation and Beautification Board
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             - Time is 12.32, I am Frances Punch.
 I am the chair for the Denton Parks and Recreation Board
 and welcome to the November Parks
 and Recreation Board meeting.
 Today we have two absences, one excuse and one pending.
 Do we have any outside calls?
 Or members from the public?
 - We have no calls and no comments on the online form.
 - Okay, thank you so much.
 First item is consideration of the minutes
 for October 12th, 2020.
 Do we have any questions, concerns, discussions?
 May I have a motion to approve the minutes?
 - Aye.
 - I'll motion to approve the minutes from October.
 - May I have a second?
 - I'll second.
 - All in favor, raise hand please.
 - Aye.
 - Aye, Denona.
 - Okay, anyone oppose? No one opposed?
 The ayes have it, the motion carries.
 First item, we're gonna receive a report
 and hold discussion and give staff direction
 regarding the amendment to the code of ordinance
 as modified by ordinance 192866.
 And so Gary, who's doing that?
 - Eddie, Eddie was gonna, that's the item he was working on.
 - Okay.
 - So based on just a quick history,
 last month we are revisiting the ordinance
 for the boards and commission absenteeism.
 And part of that process, from the last time,
 we basically ended up tabling it
 to talk more in depth about this amendment
 to the code of ordinances.
 And between that time, Frances Punch
 was able to create a memo.
 I don't know if you all have seen the attachment for that.
 It's on your backup.
 And it basically discusses the two things
 to add onto the ordinance.
 One of them is family emergency, is that correct?
 I don't remember.
 - Family responsibilities.
 - Family responsibilities.
 And another item that should be also in discussion
 is part of the issue I think we're running into
 is that normally we would meet for park board meetings
 after six o'clock p.m.
 And because of COVID-19, we're doing it during the daytime.
 So I think one of the discussions that should be talked about
 is how you guys wanna approach it
 in the respect of COVID-19,
 because right now you guys are all flexing your times
 to get to these park board meetings during business hours
 and also family responsibility as well.
 Does that sum that up, Frances?
 - Yes, sounds good.
 - So I guess we're trying to get input
 from all of you and what your thoughts are.
 I think our next steps after this
 is we're gonna try to put it on the City Council agenda
 for them to basically talk about it.
 And you guys are holding a stand
 on what you wanna provide to City Council.
 And we're gonna move this memo forward
 to City Council as well.
 - The floor is open for discussion, questions and concerns.
 - We talked about this last time and there was like,
 personal business, if we have personal family time
 was one of the ones we brought up.
 There was another one.
 It's not coming to me off the top of my head.
 Anybody?
 - The question is, do you have any opposition
 or to adding or requesting the amendments?
 - I don't know.
 Requesting the amendments to the ordinance.
 And we are trying to move forward
 and request addition, those two additions,
 family responsibilities.
 And I think it's a pandemic, emergency situations,
 something of that nomenclature.
 - I agree to move forward with that.
 And thanks, Frances, for doing it.
 - Yeah, it's family responsibilities
 and then pandemic/world events/emergency situations.
 - Thank you, Gary.
 - I think it's great.
 Also, I think the family piece that you have amended
 gives us a little broader scope.
 And I know we all feel like family members should be first
 just in our day to day.
 So I think those are some good verbiage
 to make it all encompassing
 when it comes to our family members.
 And as far as putting the language in there
 about the pandemic and just working in general,
 I think it's harder for people to get together
 because we do work during the daytime.
 I know personally, I took off today.
 So I'm gonna try to take off
 so I can be at these meetings
 because some positions are a little bit busier
 than the others.
 And mine is one of those where I've got a ton of folks
 just in my face constantly.
 So I think these are some good suggestions.
 - Mr. Emory.
 - Well, that was the second Gary read off
 when I was looking for it.
 Thank you.
 And I agree with this.
 I think we should move forward on this.
 So it's definitely a large hole in the excuse column
 that should be there.
 Absolutely.
 - Okay, so Eddie, do I am?
 At the last meeting, I didn't know the correct procedure.
 So what's the procedure from here?
 'Cause this isn't, I don't see that this is an action item
 but everybody's in agreement to move forward.
 - This is an action item.
 You guys have this one.
 You're moving, what you're voting for is that memorandum
 and that you all agree to it as a stand.
 So we can go to boot this forward to city council
 for their discussion on how they wanna proceed
 on adding possibly these two items.
 And I think I think that, you guys are taking a stand
 on how they need to discuss this
 because what the pandemic world situation
 and also what more clarity with family responsibilities
 is something that you guys have concerns about.
 - Okay, so may I have a motion to move forward
 with the memo as stated?
 - I'll motion to move forward.
 - Second.
 - I'll second.
 - All in favor.
 - Okay, motion passes.
 Next item.
 Receive a report, hold a discussion
 and give staff input regarding an update
 of the city of Denton Parks and Recreation Department
 COVID-19 response.
 - Gary Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation.
 Just to kind of give you a high level
 and then kind of bring it down to a little more detail.
 As of right now, we have our North Lakes Recreation Center
 and MLK Junior Recreation Center that are open.
 The natatorium is open as well
 with modified hours in limited programming.
 Based on our current protocols,
 we're maintaining those facilities open to the public
 for programming or for fitness related
 or for specific swim programs.
 DISD is using the natatorium as well.
 We have been looking at reopening originally.
 Our reopening plan was to have DENIA open
 roughly December, January,
 and then the senior centers open up after January 1
 or when everyone comes back from the holidays.
 We were looking at possibly opening the senior center
 three days a week from roughly eight to one,
 morning hours at the end of November
 based off of requests that we've had.
 And then DENIA would open up following that.
 We've had some discussions within the organization
 and we had some this morning with staff
 and we're gonna be meeting with city manager's office
 as well as public affairs and library later this week
 to talk in a little bit more detail.
 But I think we're going to probably push
 some of those reopenings of the new facilities
 back a little bit more
 and anticipate a later opening
 because of the cases that are going up.
 And then we're also revisiting some of our protocols
 to make sure that we're cleaning the facilities
 as frequently as we can
 and keep everybody as best we can safe.
 We've had a lot of challenges like every business does.
 You have people that do get sick.
 We do have people that may have been exposed
 and they're out for a period of time
 and they're getting tested.
 Kids at school that are possibly exposed
 or getting tested or have been exposed and tested positive
 that kind of create a ripple effect
 throughout the families and businesses.
 So the other thing, not just keeping people safe
 but it's also trying to keep our staff safe
 and the more facilities we open,
 the thinner our staff gets
 and the thinner amount of people we have.
 So it's been a challenge.
 Staff has done a tremendous job keeping up with everything
 and trying to provide programs to the community
 and we're doing the best we can.
 But I think what we're probably gonna do
 after we have discussion
 is just delaying some of our reopenings.
 So we're gonna have some more discussion this week
 with city management and the library
 in regards to what they're gonna do as well.
 So I would anticipate some sort of press release coming out
 maybe at the end of the week with an update
 in regards to our next steps.
 Any questions about our operations related to COVID?
 - Thank you so much.
 - Have any companies reached out about asking...
 Can you hear me?
 - Asking about what?
 - No.
 - Yes, we can.
 - We can hear you, yes.
 - Any companies reach out and ask about,
 would you be able to do COVID testing?
 I know they have COVID testing
 like on some of the corners at the mall,
 but have any companies ever asked to come in
 and provide COVID testing?
 - I haven't heard any in regards to the rec centers.
 I know the county does have the ones at the mall,
 but we haven't had any specific requests
 that I'm aware of for parks and recreation.
 - You can get a speed one at...
 You can get a speed test over at CVS
 on Teasley and Billy Miller.
 Drive in, they test you,
 and then you know the results within a day.
 - Do you guys have any plans set up already
 just based on the statistics of closing down playgrounds,
 not parks, and just kind of what number percentage,
 like if it hits this, we expect to do this,
 or is that what you're saying?
 We'll hear later this week?
 - Yeah, we're looking at two things.
 One, the future expansion of reopening,
 and then kind of what we're currently offering.
 So we're pushing that reopening of new facilities,
 new programs out further.
 So that's kind of our initial thought.
 And then the existing programs that we do
 are the things that we need to shore up
 in regards to cleaning protocols,
 elevate them at this point in time.
 There are certain hours that we want to maybe cut back on.
 Maybe certain programs that may be higher risk
 that we may not wanna do.
 So we're looking at those things right now.
 I don't know of a number of cities
 that have started closing down tennis courts
 and basketball courts and playgrounds like they had.
 I think there's been some discussion.
 There was one city that decided
 they're not gonna have any events until May of 2021,
 and they threw out some dates there.
 So the school districts are obviously the big,
 kind of the gorilla in the room
 in regards to what they're doing.
 And I think that'll kind of have a trickle down effect
 onto us as well.
 And we have seen some of the smaller schools close,
 but that's a struggle too,
 because not everyone can be home with kids
 and we experienced that.
 So it's a really tough position for everybody.
 And the last thing we wanna do is close down
 the programs and services we provide to people,
 'cause that's really an outlet for them.
 So we're gonna do our best
 to try to keep everybody safe as we can,
 and then continue, try to keep our parks open
 for everyone to go out and enjoy and exercise,
 get away from the computer
 and get out and get some fresh air,
 and we'll adjust as needed.
 Hopefully we don't have to go to that extreme again.
 We're getting close to 4,000 active cases
 if you look at the Denton County website.
 We're almost a thousand cases
 above the high point in the summer.
 So it is definitely worse and more challenging
 than it was early this summer.
 But I think people are tired
 and they wanna get back to normal life.
 We're just not there yet.
 - We'll say that we're near the RECA park here
 and I'll tell you that trail there
 is highly, highly utilized every day, every morning.
 So the good news is the trails are being definitely,
 and I think also Katie Trail
 knows a lot more people out there on their bikes.
 So the trails have been a savior in all of this.
 - They are getting a lot of use for sure.
 - Yep.
 Okay, if there are no additional questions or concerns,
 we will move to the next item.
 We are gonna receive a report, hold a discussion
 and give staff input regarding the Denton Parks
 and Recreation, Beautification, Education
 and Event Services Division
 and Clearcrete Natural Heritage Center.
 - Okay, Autumn is gonna talk about this.
 I'll bring up the presentation
 and unless Autumn, you wanted to bring it up.
 - Actually don't.
 - Okay, I'll do it.
 So just to kind of give everybody an introduction,
 Katie B joined us, I guess to write a little over a year ago
 and came over to Parks and Recreation
 and has been a great fit for our organization
 and hopefully a great fit for what they do.
 There's a lot of overlap
 and we feel it was a seamless transition
 in regards to the services they provide
 and how we can support them as well.
 And then this summer with COVID,
 we are looking at ways that we could streamline
 a lot of our business.
 We centralized our mowing practices and Drew's team.
 So we're mowing and maintaining the land
 for all city assets except for like the landfill and drainage.
 So that was a seamless transition.
 The other thing that we looked at was Clear Creek
 in regards to programming that we provide there
 and obviously our park maintenance that we do.
 So that was moved over earlier this summer
 and that's moved into a new group that we took Katie B,
 the Civic Center and all the internal
 and external events that we do in Clear Creek
 and created a new group.
 So that's what Autumn is here to share with you.
 So let me go ahead and bring that up.
 (mouse clicking)
 Let's see, it's a page.
 Okay.
 Can you guys see that?
 - Yeah, perfect introduction, Gary.
 All right, like you mentioned, I'm Autumn Natale,
 I'm Program and Events Manager.
 You're in the department and he mentioned
 one of the major changes that came out of this
 was Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center.
 Sorry, something's happening with my screen.
 There we go, sorry about that.
 As you all mentioned, one of the real benefits
 during this pandemic was people getting out to the trails
 and that's no exception at Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center
 and that transitioned over to our department
 to help with the maintenance
 but we saw a lot of synergy there with the outdoor efforts
 and educational aspects we could bring to it
 as well as hosting events there.
 So we are looking at improving that overall
 and look forward to a overall master plan
 coming in the next year.
 - Can everybody see my screen?
 - Yes.
 - Autumn, can you see it?
 It says Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center?
 - Yes.
 - Okay, all right, we'll make sure everyone can see it.
 - Yeah, you can go ahead and advance to the next slide.
 - Okay, okay.
 - Thank you.
 So one of the other exciting opportunities is our new team
 which is BEES for short.
 It's Beautification, Education and Event Services
 that brings all of those areas
 that were kind of off on an island on their own
 all together to collaborate
 and so far it's worked out really well
 and we've had a lot of overlap
 but the very first section that BEES
 is the beautification piece
 and I believe that's on the next slide.
 Thank you.
 So this is where the KDB
 Keep Deton Beautiful Initiatives will continue.
 I'm sure you heard that Keep Deton Beautiful Inc,
 a nonprofit, is in the process of dissolving
 and handing over all management and funding to the city side.
 That has been a pretty seamless transition so far
 and I see it continuing that way
 with continuing the tree plantings,
 beautification and mural projects
 and of course our city-wide litter programs
 and volunteer projects have not slowed down
 since the pandemic hit.
 We've been out there.
 You probably have seen our volunteers hard at work.
 There's a lot of very undentened
 so that allows for social distancing
 and we've seen a lot of increase in PPE littering
 so we wanna make sure we get out there
 and still keep our community clean
 because we're seeing with our residents going outdoors
 for more litter and we wanna keep our parks
 just as nice for people to keep those litter free.
 The other aspect is environmental education.
 So this is where the education component comes in.
 Sustainability is a division
 within the utilities wastewater department
 and previously for years they had managed a couple programs
 and the main piece being the sustainability workshops.
 So those are coming over
 as well as the Denton Sustainable Schools Program
 which was previously managed.
 Alana, you're familiar with this
 by Solid Waste and Recycling.
 Those are valuable programs
 that keeps us connected with Denton ISD.
 It helps us attract people out to Clear Creek
 and it keeps sustainable education going
 and supporting the Simply Sustainable Citywide Master Plan.
 And then the last piece is event services.
 You're very familiar with our events
 that we're missing so much right now.
 A few of them are listed there.
 Right now we're working on converting those to virtual
 and trying to still enjoy extravaganza and egg hunt
 in a safe way coming this spring.
 But we also manage the rentals at the Civic Center
 and all of the community events.
 We partner with them to make sure that they're,
 they have what they need to host events within the parks.
 So that's our new exciting division.
 It's one of the really great things
 that came out of a tough time.
 Does anyone have any questions?
 Yes, I can see James' hands up.
 - Yeah.
 You want me to say?
 - No, I'm gonna take this down.
 - Yes, thank you.
 I was about to request that.
 - Anyway, good question.
 Who do we contact if schools want,
 the students want our schools organized
 to take people out to the Clear Creek Reserve?
 Who do they contact here?
 You?
 - Yes, that would be me.
 I'll go ahead and get my email to each of you.
 But any school presentations would come through us
 if you wanted a guided hike out at the trails.
 The trails are open for anyone to use.
 We've already had school groups
 going out there on their own.
 But if you wanna be connected with a guide,
 then that would be our group.
 - Okay, that'd be great.
 - Autumn, I was curious if you guys had any programming
 or specific area that focused on making sure
 that we were getting all different types of people
 to the parks for inclusivity,
 if you had something specific in regards to that.
 - Yes, yeah, we're actually working
 with our education coordinator right now
 in developing a program that's linked to the book
 Black Faces, White Spaces.
 And so that's encouraging minority groups
 to come out to the outdoors
 and identifying the things that might be limiting them
 from those opportunities.
 But specifically partnering with TWU
 to have school groups come out and,
 sorry, university groups come out
 and do either a guided hike or a diving trip.
 And we've looked at an overnight camping trip.
 - Thank you.
 - So you know I probably have questions
 about different sustainable schools.
 So what is the plan with continuing that program?
 Is it gonna be like where it used to,
 like schools would participate and get money
 from the recycling fund for the school
 to do environmental programs?
 Like how is that gonna be?
 It's kinda like what's the form of it now?
 - Right, so the form is pretty much the same.
 We're gonna provide presentation support
 and guidance and resources.
 But the funding aspect, that previously came
 from solid waste and recycling.
 And I understand that that was tied to funds from Pratt.
 And with the decrease in commodities,
 they're seeing a decrease in that funding.
 So that department has decided to cease funding
 for at least this year.
 And we're looking at potential incentives for the schools,
 whether that be some kind of award or recognition
 that's not monetary.
 But we're open to suggestions if anyone has them.
 But we are going to continue with the same support
 that we provide for the schools
 with the exception of the monetary.
 - So y'all will still be like working
 with their custodians and the administration
 to ensure that there is recycling infrastructure
 in the schools and they have everything they need
 to have more sustainable infrastructure all around.
 - Right, so our piece in this is providing
 the educational resources and connecting people
 to the right person in the city.
 For the recycling aspects, for the waste audits
 and increasing those recycling rates,
 that will fall to the recycling education coordinator
 that's still within the sustainability division.
 Currently that position is vacant,
 but there are two staff members
 who are addressing that right now.
 - Just to understand where the division between
 what we're doing and what sustainability is doing,
 the easiest way is all the regulatory items
 is still staying within sustainability.
 All the programmatic things that they used to do
 came over to Parks and Recreation.
 That line is still a little wiggly
 on some of the things that we do and they do,
 but that's the easiest way to explain the split from that.
 So from a programming standpoint
 and from a park maintenance standpoint,
 that's what we're doing with the sustainability programs
 and what Autumn just talked about
 and then from a park maintenance standpoint, obviously.
 But all the regulatory things,
 whether it's air quality, all those types of things
 are still being done by sustainability.
 - Autumn, I'm curious, what is the gap in funding
 that exists that you would have been giving out
 as incentives?
 - So I don't know that piece.
 I haven't seen the actual numbers.
 I know that Solid Waste had stepped in
 and it changes from year to year on the commodities.
 So I don't know what the numbers are
 for this past year that they didn't fund,
 but I could find out and get that information.
 - Yeah, that would be awesome.
 I'd love to talk to our board
 and see if there's potential or funding grants
 that could help fund the program.
 - I have a question.
 So you said earlier, like all the educational stuff
 for internal and external pretty much for sustainability
 is gonna be like funneled through the bees.
 What is the plan for educating the internal parks
 and rec staff about sustainability?
 Because I know like when you hire people
 who are maybe an expert in one thing
 and then transition them into like a new way of thinking
 or a new position, they might need a little training
 to understand fully what sustainability is
 and how that impacts each job and division.
 - Right, yeah, so sustainability is a big piece
 of our strategic plan in the department,
 but citywide, we've got a city green team
 that just started back up last week.
 And we have, I think four or five parks and rec staff members
 a part of that green team.
 And that's one of the things we're discussing
 is how can we can take the information in those meetings
 and bring it back to our own departments.
 So that may be a future presentation
 for the whole department to allow for all staff
 to be familiarized with sustainability initiatives,
 but how they can implement them now at the different rec centers
 or out at the parks.
 - One of the challenges we do have,
 and Drew can attest to this, is our garbage cans.
 Our park system, we have, I don't know,
 I'm gonna guess here a thousand of the 55 gallon drums,
 and we have a blue and green one right next to each other,
 and they're contaminated all the time.
 So we do need to look at a way
 that we can have better containers
 that make it easier for people to self-identify
 where they're supposed to be putting items.
 The problem is, we went out and looked at some prices
 probably a year ago, a year and a half ago,
 and it was a million dollars to replace all our trash cans.
 And on the list of priorities, I don't know where that sits.
 It's a hard pill to swallow
 to spend a million dollars on trash cans.
 But that's an issue for sure.
 And so it's not just staff, it's still the general public
 in trying to get them to not contaminate, you know,
 one can across the entire organization of the park system.
 - I definitely am familiar with that issue.
 - But I thought it had something to do with two cans.
 If they get corrupted, or what do you call it?
 - Contaminated? - Contaminated.
 - Yeah, why even bother with two cans?
 - We want to still try, right?
 So, I mean, we don't wanna lose the effort
 for trying to recycle in our community.
 And that's something that we're gonna continue to work on
 with the educational factor, you know, really,
 I know Alana probably had, you know,
 she's got experience with it.
 You start young, you know,
 if you get the word out in the school system
 that, you know, this is the benefit of recycling,
 then they take that home,
 and then that continues to carry on.
 So, you know, Autumn and I have already talked about this,
 that we really want to start
 that kind of educational factor again,
 and really get into the focus of getting back
 into the schools to educate children on recycling,
 'cause, you know, they're there at the parks
 with their parents,
 and then when something goes to go in a can,
 they can say, no, you know, Mom and Dad, you know,
 your water bottle goes in the blue can,
 and your regular trash goes in the green can,
 and this is why.
 So it's something that we'll continue to work on,
 or are gonna continue to work on.
 - Brooke, if you can find us a million dollar grant
 for trash receptacles, that'd be fantastic.
 - You know how I feel about our trash cans through the parks?
 - Yeah, they are ugly.
 - These are the worst trash cans.
 - Yeah, they fill up with water.
 It's just, yeah, they're not attractive.
 - Of course, like right around the trash can
 is just like everything that should be in it,
 and I genuinely don't think people are like,
 I'm so lazy, I'm not gonna stretch my arm.
 Yeah, I'll work on that one.
 - Any additional concerns, comments, questions?
 Well, thank you all for the input,
 and thank you, Autumn, for being so thorough.
 - Thank you.
 - It's a new group, so we're looking forward
 to what it can be down the road,
 and the Clear Creek Master Plan was done in 2014.
 So every five years, you typically wanna address that
 and just kind of relook at it.
 So we are going to council, we've been negotiating
 with a, evaluating, negotiating a firm
 to come help us finish the Master Plan for the park system.
 Since Glenn left, and then COVID,
 it's been on hold outside of the trails.
 We talked about the past couple meetings.
 We are gonna integrate Clear Creek into that,
 so we can get that updated
 and try to continue to move forward.
 It's such a major hidden diamond
 in our system for the city.
 We wanna get more people out there,
 and there's gotta be a balance.
 We can't have too many people go out there,
 'cause then you kind of start a negative impact,
 but the more people we can get out there
 starting utilizing that resource,
 the better for the entire city.
 - I have actually a couple of questions
 regarding Clear Creek.
 One is, I've been out there in a couple of weeks,
 but the last few times I went out there,
 the porta potty that's available for people
 was just in really bad shape,
 and it was quite smelly.
 - When you went out there, was there one porta potty or two?
 - Just one, it was kind of like pushed back.
 - Was it gray or red?
 We're getting specific.
 The reason why. - No, there was only one.
 - There was only one, okay. - It was by the parking area.
 - And the reason why is because I took to council
 a contract to get rid of UnitedSite Services,
 and now we have Five Star Rentals.
 Five Star Rental is a Denton company.
 - Yeah, I know, I would-
 - And they're very customer-oriented.
 They've been great to us so far.
 They're the ones that help come in
 whenever COVID first hit, and we had the laundry trailer.
 We helped open up the restrooms.
 They had the hand-washing stations.
 They've been very good.
 UnitedSite Services is no longer with us as a contractor,
 but we're having issues with them coming to get their cans.
 - See, that's what it seemed like.
 It seemed like it wasn't supposed to be used.
 - We- - Yeah, that makes sense.
 - I have tried since September weekly,
 Carlotta sends an email out,
 and I try to follow that for them to come
 and get the rest of their cans.
 We're trying to move up the chain with UnitedSite Service,
 but we haven't had any luck
 actually getting to the top lately.
 So hopefully they will come and get theirs
 because they are very bad.
 But Five Star Rental does have a new porta potty out there.
 It's very clean, and they keep it clean.
 So that is something that we've worked on
 trying to get UnitedSite Service out in Five Star-
 - What happens if they don't come?
 Like, do you have to-
 - We will eventually make sure it's gone,
 but we'll take them.
 We've already gotten, we already have two or three
 at the service center that we've removed
 because of those reasons,
 and we're just waiting for them to come get them also.
 - That's just terrible.
 - Okay, Drew, are they locked,
 or can people actually enter them?
 - You can enter them,
 but they haven't been cleaned since probably September.
 - We probably should go ahead
 and just put a lock or something on it
 so people don't even bother opening it.
 - Yeah, so-
 - 'Cause they're thinking that we're not maintaining them
 when we're trying to encourage the company
 to come pick them up.
 - The last time I was there,
 you could smell them down the trail.
 - Okay.
 - It was pretty bad.
 - All right.
 - We'll look to go-
 - I don't wanna talk about it anymore.
 - Sound like a new diet plan to me.
 - Alaina, your second question.
 - Oh, yes, thank you for reminding me, Princess.
 I totally forgot.
 When will the rest of the little trails be open?
 'Cause you can't, like, I know sometimes it rains,
 and that causes an issue.
 But it seems like even when it's dry,
 you can't do the full loop out there,
 and I was just wondering when I could expect
 to be able to do that full loop.
 - So we have- - Like the big one
 that goes by Elm Fork.
 - So our master naturalists are constantly,
 in fact, they're there today,
 and they're normally there on Mondays and Thursdays
 helping get our trails open,
 whether that's helping us clear trails,
 helping to make sure that they're closed
 when they need to be closed due to the weather or rain.
 But as you know, it was great this summer when it was hot.
 Most of those trails are shaded,
 so you get a little beat of the heat out in those trails.
 That does cause an issue for them to dry.
 They don't dry in there as quickly
 because they don't get the sunlight
 that some of our other trails do.
 So we are working on that.
 Gary, myself, and Autumn, we've gone through and looked at,
 like we said, it's in parks now, park maintenance,
 and it's going to help make sure that we can kind of
 update those trails and get them
 to where we can get those open quicker.
 I can't give you an answer right now,
 but I can look at that and send you an answer next Monday
 on when we anticipate those trails opening up,
 especially we've had quite a bit of dry weather lately.
 - The one issue was the constant flooding
 of some of those trails.
 And I guess it could be a point where
 I don't know if the dam clearing
 made a significant impact on that or not.
 But we've talked about even elevated trails
 if we have to in certain areas.
 That's obviously a long-term,
 that's probably a grant project.
 You can add that to your list, Brooke,
 but that's the most expensive trail that we can build
 in that, or trying to open up the air above the trail
 to try to get some more sunlight on it.
 So that's a challenge on some of those trails
 with how low they are.
 And obviously we haven't been able to open up
 the 380 parking lot too.
 - Do you have a question for you specifically?
 Did you work on the River Legacy Park
 when you were in Arlington?
 - That was not my area.
 Park maintenance was a different AD.
 I did have some, we did programming out there
 and we did do the paddling trail
 that is at River Legacy as well.
 But yes, that was part of our park inventory.
 There was a nonprofit that ran the Science Center
 and they handled that and they did some of their own camps,
 but we did all park maintenance and programming
 within the park itself.
 And that entire park would flood
 and be under six, eight feet of water once or twice a year.
 It would be up to the roofs on the pavilions
 and we'd have to shut it down for a week or two
 and then go back in there and clean it up.
 So there was a significant amount of water in that park
 when we had major rainstorms.
 - Actually, I grew up going to that park.
 We grew up in Ulysses, right next to it.
 - Yeah, it's definitely a destination park.
 I think the President Bush had been out there a few times
 riding the mountain bike trails.
 - That's cool.
 Okay, I have one last comment and I'll stop you guys.
 I just wanted to say, I recently saw the Quarry Trail.
 I guess it's almost finished or it is finished.
 It's awesome.
 They did a really great job with that one.
 Those of you who don't know what the Quarry Trail is,
 I'll let y'all explain it,
 but it's, what is it the Master Naturalist put it in?
 I'll stop, go ahead.
 - Just to add to that,
 the one thing that we are looking to change
 is the North parking lot.
 There's a restroom facility up there
 and a gravel parking lot.
 And that for the most part, it's been closed and locked.
 We wanna get into a routine where that's open
 on a regular basis as well.
 And that restroom facility is open as well.
 We're speaking of restrooms.
 And across the street, there's 240 acres,
 230 some acres that we have the ability to utilize
 through our utility department.
 And we're currently building mountain bike trails out there
 that will be dedicated for mountain biking.
 When we open up that parking lot on the North side,
 we're gonna have the mountain bikers park there.
 And then there'll be a trail to go up across the street
 where they can get in and start the mountain bike trail.
 So we had a group of volunteers go out
 and start marking it two weeks ago.
 And we marked about two to three miles of trails.
 And then we have another marking day on the 20th,
 which is the Friday of this week to go out there
 and mark some more trails.
 It'll probably take us two or three more days
 to get everything done.
 We're somewhere around seven miles of trails
 that we envision out there.
 And then it'll be a community build.
 So we'll be depending on volunteers to go out there
 and help clear the areas for the mountain bike trails.
 We have a few of our master naturalists
 helping on it as well,
 as well as some of our mountain bike enthusiasts
 that we've been working with on our focus groups
 and some of our store owners as well are helping.
 So we don't have a dedicated funding source for it.
 So it's what equity is what's gonna build that.
 But so that's also gonna help us maintain that restroom
 and improve that parking lot area too,
 'cause it doesn't get as much use as it should.
 And now that we have that open,
 that should open up those trails on the north side too,
 'cause there's some nice trails north of that parking lot
 that you can go out and enjoy that are just grass trails
 that are out in the open.
 So that's expanding really our programming opportunities
 for that park.
 - Okay, I got a question about-
 - Yes, Brooke.
 - So we were just out there and I was curious
 if you had any plans on building little bridges
 that cross over like some of the little
 creek ways that come through.
 I don't mind crossing them however my dog does
 and he gets very wet.
 - Are you talking about Clear Creek
 or at the mountain bike?
 - Yes, yes we do.
 We're working with a master nationalist now.
 We do have a Boy Scout,
 two Boy Eagle Scout projects going on.
 One is almost complete.
 The other one just got started
 and then the master naturalist is gonna build another bridge
 to cross some of those wet areas.
 Yes, the south side of the lake,
 I guess that one got washed away.
 - Yes.
 - Okay, and Autumn, I thought of a question.
 The tree giveaway, is that still an event that will occur?
 - Yes, we just hosted the tree giveaway last month
 on the 24th that we talked about
 that being a COVID ready event.
 There were very few adjustments that we had to make
 but we see that continuing
 and we've even discussed the possibility
 of maybe hosting a second one in the spring
 depending on funding.
 But seeing as how that's a drive through,
 distanced, great way to get people trees to plant,
 we will continue that.
 - I usually receive an email
 'cause I have been on the list,
 but I did not receive one.
 Do I need to re-register?
 What's the process for people to find out about the trees?
 - I can check on that for you and send you an email, Frances.
 I'm sorry that you didn't receive that.
 - I'm actually also someone,
 I've gotten a tree like four years now
 and I did not get one this year
 because I had no idea that it happened until afterwards.
 - Okay, yeah.
 So we've scheduled registrations
 then every year on October 1st,
 but I will check on both of your registrations
 or subscriptions to our newsletter.
 You should have gotten it.
 Unless you randomly hit unsubscribe,
 that sometimes happens.
 I will say, I did get it.
 So I did not get a tree,
 but I did get it.
 Thank you, Autumn.
 - Utility, don't they send it in with the utilities?
 - They do.
 - You get your utility bill and you get that newsletter.
 I saw it in there and remember long ago,
 but I have seen it in there.
 - Yeah, it was in the Citizen Connection
 that you're talking about in the resident update
 that went out as well.
 But definitely we wanna make sure
 that you guys are getting those direct emails from us
 so we have the best, most accurate information.
 - Autumn, can we just,
 can we see if we can get all of the park board registered?
 Just make sure everyone is on that list.
 It was very successful this year and fun, so.
 - I have one question.
 Everybody's talking about the trails
 and I think they're awesome.
 Is there any way on the website,
 when you click on the trails
 on the park, Denton Parks and Rec website,
 it's not really user friendly
 for someone who's not from Denton, like me.
 You've got a lot of people moving to the city
 from California and all over the country.
 So maybe a map that talks about the walking trails
 and the bike trails that are,
 that the city offers.
 - It's on our list. - On the website.
 - Yeah, we-- - And maybe even
 in visitor center.
 - That's been on our list.
 We've been talking about it for the past year
 to get that updated.
 We actually, earlier this summer,
 we had a couple of volunteers go out
 and ride all of our major trails
 with their bike with a camera.
 So staff's been editing that
 and I saw the first proof last week
 where it's kind of going fast forward along the trails
 and then it gives you little tidbits of information
 and facts as you're riding.
 So you can kind of see
 and it shows you a map where you're at.
 So that should be coming out real soon.
 So that's good timing on the question,
 but we do have it on our list of things to do
 is improve the website with our trails.
 - Bike sales are up.
 That's all over the news. - Absolutely.
 Yeah.
 - Bike sales and kayaks.
 - I love your idea.
 The trail, what they did in the environment
 was pretty clever.
 They had actually some boy scouts
 and I think even a girl scout or two got involved
 and they put, not only did they put a map together,
 but they put it so you could get to GPS court
 and so you can put your cell phone and follow the trail
 and it shows you where you're going in real time on a GPS.
 So that's pretty cool.
 And they just got kids to do it for them.
 You'd be surprised what these kids can do today.
 - Yeah.
 - Okay, anything else before we move to the next item?
 All right.
 Thank you again, Autumn.
 Next item, receive a report, hold a discussion
 and give staff input regarding the naming applications
 for parks and trails as submitted by residents,
 local developers and the parks and recreation department.
 - Okay, let me go ahead and bring that up.
 (pages rustling)
 I don't have a PowerPoint,
 but I'm gonna open up the AIS that we can follow.
 I'm sure you remember we've talked about it a number of times
 over the past year in regard to updating the policy
 for the naming within our park system of parks and facilities.
 And during the past year, we've had a number
 of community groups and developers reach out to us
 about naming of a few of our parks and fields.
 During this process to get the policy approved,
 we asked them to hold off and submit it
 once it was completed.
 So once it was finalized,
 we did reach out to everybody that had talked to us
 over the past year and asked them to go ahead
 and resubmit or actually submit an application.
 And that was part of the process
 is to get an application together that they could fill out
 and turn into the city.
 So we have received a total of five applications
 from the community.
 And we've submitted parks and recreation
 a number of submittals as well.
 So the process, if you remember,
 is that the application submitted goes to the city manager's
 office or the department.
 I've turned those into the city manager's office,
 and the next would go to city council.
 So we plan on going back to city council
 after the first of the year to present the applications
 and walk through that process.
 City council have to create a ad hoc committee.
 There would be a member or two from park board
 because that's the most impacted department.
 And then council would form that subcommittee,
 they would go through the applications
 and then provide recommendations
 back to the park board and city council.
 So that's the process.
 It's the first time we're gonna go through it as a group.
 So there may be some learning opportunities during this,
 but we're gonna wait until the entire city council
 was seated.
 So we kind of took that first step with the formal council
 that would be in place for the next two years.
 But applications that were submitted from the community
 was for the Carnegie Ridge property,
 and that was provided by the developers.
 They wanted to name it Patrick Park after their father,
 who was a local teacher.
 Baseball fields one and two at Evers Park
 were submitted by Denton Baseball Association.
 And those were two names after,
 and I can make this a little larger
 so it might be easier for you guys to see.
 And that was Austin Jackson and Javi Guerra,
 I think is the pronunciation.
 They were both former Denton ballplayers.
 They played through the program and they both played in MLB.
 Guerra was actually on the Washington nationals
 two years ago when they won the world series.
 So they asked to name the fields after those players.
 And then Industrial Street Park used to be
 Wolf's Hardware Store, Grocery, I'm sorry, Grocery.
 And actually was submitted by one of our employees
 who's a family related to that family, so that property.
 So that was a real interesting kind of tie back
 to what that property was used at one point in time.
 And then Razor Ranch property was submitted
 by the developers to name that park Razor Ranch Park.
 So those are the five applications
 that came from the community.
 And then the ones that we submitted,
 the Mills property is planned to be a city park.
 And that's typically a park that's 50 acres or more.
 And we were trying to come up with a theme
 for all our city parks to be named after something,
 Direction Lake Park and North Lakes Park, South Lakes Park.
 And this one would be East Lake Park
 to obviously give you the geographic location
 and kind of set that brand of,
 oh, that's a lake park,
 that must mean it's something of significance.
 There's roughly a four acre pond there, a body of water.
 So that was the rationale for East Lake Park.
 And then all of the trails, well,
 we haven't formally named all of our trails.
 We thought it would be good
 while we're working through the master plan
 and we're calling these trails certain things
 to go ahead and get them formally adopted
 and then work into some of those trails as they're built.
 Bonnie Bray is already under construction.
 Cooper Creek already has some trails completed.
 Hickory Creek is under construction right now.
 Mayhill is, for the most part, completed.
 Mingo is in portions of that are in the planning stage.
 Same with Pecan Creek.
 University Trail is gonna have a section east of Mayhill.
 That's gonna be worked on by Textot over to the bridge.
 And then Vintage Trail is under construction
 and Wildflower Trail already exists.
 We weren't sure if that was formally adopted or not.
 That's in North Lakes Park.
 So we wanted to just go ahead and formally request that.
 This doesn't mean there's not more trails
 that we could be adding to that,
 but we wanted to try to get a critical mass
 of applications together at one time
 since an ad hoc committee has to be created
 that we weren't going back piecemeal
 a little bit at a time
 and that process is gonna be cumbersome
 to try to do a number at one time.
 So that was the thought process
 in regards to taking these all to the committee
 and to you and the city council,
 but wanted to get your feedback on any of these
 if you have any questions or concern.
 We still have to move forward with city council
 and we'll definitely include any reluctancy
 or concerns you have with any of these names
 and the rationale based on direction
 from the board as a whole and kind of go from there.
 - Gary, I have a question.
 Can you stop sharing so we can see each other?
 - Oh yes, yep.
 - The Industrial Street Park,
 I would love to hear additional information
 behind the family, the Wolfs.
 I would just love to hear the history.
 - Okay.
 - We used to receive this information,
 but I know since COVID, everything has kind of changed,
 but we really, I think the board really needs
 to continue to get information.
 And I understand why you had to put it on hold
 and put them all together.
 I do understand that.
 But I do would like additional information
 about the Industrial Street Park name being changed to,
 what was it, Wolfs?
 - Wolfs, on the attachment that's in your packet
 on page 10, there's a summary of the history of Wolfs.
 It was a food store from 1947 to 1997.
 The store was located at 109 Industrial,
 Wolf's food store was named after Robert Wolf
 who opened the store in 1947.
 The store then changed ownerships
 from Robert to Walter Wolf in 1948,
 and then to Paul Wolf in 1951.
 In 1959, Grady Gandy bought the store
 from his father-in-law, Paul Wolf.
 Grady kept the store name of Wolf's food store
 to avoid any confusion.
 Many customers continued to call Mr. Gandy, Mr. Wolf
 as he bought the store.
 Many in the community still remember Mr. Gandy's smile,
 laugh and witty humor.
 He was known as a bit of a jokester
 and loved to make people laugh.
 He was a huge part of the Denton community
 and helped many people simply giving advice,
 food or a part-time job.
 Grady Gandy enjoyed being a part of the community
 and never asked for anything in return.
 He was extremely genuine and loved his neighbors.
 Wolf's food store was featured many times
 in Denton Record Chronicle highlighting the longtime success
 of the small grocery store in a time
 where big box stores were moving into the city.
 Whether the store's success was due
 to Mr. Gandy's unstoppable work ethic
 or his contribution to so many lives in Denton
 and surrounding towns, he had an infectious energy
 to anyone that knew him.
 The store centered on the Wolfs and Gandy's family,
 but Wolf's customers were considered
 Mr. Gandy's extended family.
 This was shown in his unwillingness
 to let people give up themselves,
 to let people give up, not to give up on themselves.
 He was a model of what hard work and love is
 for his community could produce.
 Mr. Gandy was never a rich man in terms of financial wealth,
 but was rich in family and friends.
 The community felt the absence
 when he unexpectedly passed away in February, 1997.
 Although he is gone,
 his love and laugh will never be forgotten.
 So that's in your packet on page 10
 as part of the application that was submitted.
 - Yes, I see that now.
 - And then one other thing,
 when John and I met with the DWI group,
 they mentioned Wolf's Food Store
 whenever we spoke to them about Industrial Park.
 And they talked about meeting there
 and getting things to eat and having lunch together.
 So it was good to hear about that place,
 especially knowing we were coming before you
 to maybe future change the name.
 - So, any feedback in regards to any of the proposed names?
 - Are we going to receive information from the public?
 - So, obviously this is the first time we've done this.
 So we'll be putting an ad hoc committee together.
 They'll review the applications.
 We definitely could have a public meeting.
 It probably is a good recommendation to have that
 during that review process.
 So people could chime in
 and people could actually come and present their pitch
 if they wanted to in regards to the name
 and kind of go from there
 and use that as part of the consideration.
 So we definitely could do that.
 - I think that's a really good idea.
 Yeah, I like that idea.
 - Thank you.
 - We will incorporate that.
 - One of the ideas that we had years ago
 was that the small pocket,
 I'm not talking about the bigger parks.
 I think the process here is a good one in general,
 but like for pocket parks that are where local neighborhoods
 could be a playground,
 it's mostly going to be utilized by the local neighborhood.
 One of the things that worked really, really well
 was to go out and get, go around the neighborhoods
 and get nominations for the names for naming the park.
 You get the whole,
 that way you get the whole community involved
 in actually being part of the process
 by just going out and asking door to door.
 And anyway, so I just, this is a suggestion.
 And then once the nomination, you get the top one,
 vote on which ones people like the best
 and the second round.
 And then eventually they come up with a name
 for the park that they named
 and then it's part of their park.
 But that is a bad news.
 We actually have people who,
 one of the daycare brought their kids over
 and the people try to chase them out
 because they said that this is our park.
 You know, we got a little too possessive, but that's okay.
 - That's a good point.
 The one thing that we are not sure of
 is what parks have been officially named or not.
 So we have a staff member
 that's gonna be working with the library
 and a city volunteer that Heather had worked with
 during this process of the policy development,
 that they were reaching out to her
 to see if she would be interested in helping
 and going back and doing research
 on the parcels that we already have.
 Our gut feeling is that some of these properties
 were named by staff.
 Just as they were kind of going, hey, this is on this road
 and we'll just call it that kind of as a placeholder.
 And we've had a little bit of a discussion
 about this in the past.
 And all of a sudden it just became Sherman Open Space
 where there was no,
 'cause it just was on Sherman Drive or road.
 And so those names just stuck.
 So we need to go back and see
 if some of those have been formally adopted
 so we could say these X number of parks
 are available in the future for the community to consider.
 The ones that were suggested are basically new parcels
 or new things that are coming together.
 So I can't give you or we can't give you a clear list
 of what is available to the community
 outside something that might be brand new.
 So we're going back to try to find that.
 So once we get to that point, we definitely could say,
 here's a list of all the parks that are available.
 And if you have somebody that lives in that neighborhood
 or we're just an important person in Denton,
 then you could suggest naming for that parcel.
 But so we need to kind of go back
 and do a little bit of research to see what is available.
 And that's something that we're trying to get started up
 with the library.
 - Additional concerns, questions, comments?
 Okay, if you can add our concerns, Gary,
 to your presentation, we'd greatly appreciate it.
 - Okay.
 - Next item, receive a report, hold a discussion
 and give staff input regarding the potential leasing
 of a 3.5 acres property at 308 Bradley Street,
 the former site of Veterans Village
 and Bradley Street Apartments.
 - Okay, I'm going to bring up the PowerPoint
 that we presented originally in June of 2019
 and use that as a reference point.
 I'm not sure if everybody on the committee was here
 at this time, but I'll just go through real quick.
 So this parcel is on Bradley, Bradley Street,
 just off of Oak, used to be a Veterans Village.
 And most recently it was an apartment complex.
 In relation to some other parks,
 you can see where McKenna Park is,
 it's pretty much a large block or two or three blocks away.
 And then Razor Ranch property is just a little bit
 to the Northwest.
 Some general facts, it's 3.5 acres.
 It is the former site of Veterans Village
 and I'll show you what that looked like.
 It was used for temporary housing during World War II,
 after World War II when the veterans came back for school
 and there were 50 hutments,
 there were small homes that were on that property.
 This is what that property looked like at the time.
 You could see these little buildings here,
 that's where the veterans,
 the students that came back where they lived.
 Campus is over in this area.
 This is what it looks like right now.
 It was being used as a lay down area
 for some construction activity off of Bradley.
 There's a chain link fence and just some open space
 that people could go out there and utilize.
 We'd come up with some draft kind of concept plans
 with the loop trail, taking the existing parking
 and putting some trees in there.
 Very minimal improvements,
 maybe a pavilion at one point in time.
 We have to make sure it's ADA compliant.
 So we integrated some Monarch Way Stations,
 pollinator gardens,
 working with volunteers and the Historical Association
 to help even with trail development
 and trying to get some veterans out there
 to help build the trails.
 Original concept was about $80,000 or so
 to do some of those improvements.
 This was, I guess, probably two years ago
 at this point in time.
 It did not include the lighting, irrigation,
 those types of things.
 It was just really the core basics.
 A pavilion of this nature, a crushed granite trail,
 all pending on volunteer assistance,
 and then maybe an interpretive panel
 about the history of that space with the Hutmans
 and World War II veterans coming back.
 At the time, we were talking to UNT
 and they were trying to figure out
 what their long-term plan is for that property,
 and they're still working on that actually.
 And after the first of the year,
 Public Affairs is gonna be working with them
 to figure out how they can get community input
 on that process before they made any decisions.
 So I think I have a meeting later this week
 to meet with Public Affairs on next steps
 in regards to that.
 So that's gonna happen after the holidays.
 So until then, there really isn't gonna be any movement
 until they go through that process.
 We did take the proposal to City Council,
 not this fiscal year, but the fiscal year prior,
 and that wasn't funded.
 So the project was kind of just put on hold
 since there was no funding allocated.
 And then this year, COVID hit
 and we didn't submit anything.
 I think we had one supplemental that we submitted
 since the budget was a concern.
 So it's been on hold since that point of time,
 but Park Board asked for an update.
 So that's where the project is as of right now,
 waiting for final decision
 on the long-term use of that property.
 Originally, we had talked about a 10-year lease with UNT,
 and that's where that property stands to date.
 - Thank you, Gary.
 Questions, concerns?
 All right.
 The next agenda item and the last one
 is to receive a report, hold a discussion,
 and give staff input regarding the placement
 and status of public art projects.
 - Okay, let me bring up a presentation for you.
 Just to kind of introduce this,
 public art was in parks and recreation,
 and it was moved over to economic development
 probably in early 2018, late 2017, that timeframe.
 And it was an economic development up until this summer,
 actually late fall, early fall.
 So it was moved back to parks and recreation.
 It's part of an overall plan that has a landscape architect
 and a park planning manager
 as new positions within the park system.
 Those staff members report to Drew
 as part of our parks planning and operations team.
 We're trying to get those positions hired as we speak.
 But in the meantime, John Whitmore, who's our program area
 manager oversees our aquatics division,
 hired himself to help us, or maybe was voluntold himself,
 to help us with the public art projects.
 We had a number that were on the books
 but needed to get started.
 And he's done a great job
 in kind of pushing those efforts forward.
 So we can go through and give you an update
 kind of where things are.
 The original request was what's the process
 to get art into the parks?
 When we started the tennis center
 and the dog park in Vela,
 we went to the public art committee
 and asked them if they'd be interested
 in putting art in those facilities.
 A number of park systems will have X number of dollars
 dedicated towards art, maybe on a construction project,
 which the city has in the past.
 Or they just find a way to put some piece of art out there
 just to kind of add to the culture of the facilities.
 So that was kind of some of our thoughts.
 And we have a couple of ideas,
 but we'll go through the presentation
 and then just open it up for discussion if that's okay.
 John, would you like to lead this
 or would you like me to, or Drew or I?
 - I think we can all contribute, I'm sure.
 - Okay, okay.
 - So economic development put together a map
 of where all the art is.
 And this was just a snapshot of that
 to give you a sense of where it is.
 There's obviously a large cluster of art
 in the downtown area,
 but we do have it in various areas
 within the park system as well.
 South Lakes, North Lakes, being two of them the airport.
 And then we have some that are just a little off the map here
 at the Natatorium as well.
 So ultimately the thought is to start spreading those out
 throughout the city.
 So it's not heavy in one area,
 but obviously with downtown being what it is,
 there's gonna be a cluster of art there.
 So definitely trying to get art in new locations
 is definitely a part of the mindset.
 The blue are sculptures and the red are murals of sorts.
 North Lake Dog Park, this is a project
 that John has been working on.
 We built this pad at the middle of the three circles
 of the dog park to put a piece of art on there.
 We were in the middle of construction,
 but we didn't have the piece of art yet.
 So that is still being worked through the subcommittee
 of the Public Art Committee to get selected.
 And John is working on that RFP right now as we speak.
 The Vela Athletic Complex, we had put a pad in this pad
 right here, this little cube during the construction process
 with the anticipation of putting a piece of art out there.
 And we met with the Vela family and with Dr. Vela
 being a biologist at UNT and loved community
 and loved soccer, they asked if they could have that theme
 kind of tied into the piece of art.
 So we put together an RFP and sent it out and it came back
 based off of the theme that you're asking for
 and the size, basically the scope that it wasn't feasible
 with the budget we had.
 So we did have some extra money left over
 from the Vela Athletic Complex of $65,000.
 Got $1,000 from the Park Foundation
 to go towards that project.
 And John put together the RFP again, resubmitted
 to the selected artists that the pack had selected.
 And this is what he came back.
 And it's basically a trophy with the molecules
 as the brass, the balls in the center.
 There's a star in the middle that you can't see for Texas.
 And then the frame of the molecules
 is actually the panels of a soccer ball.
 So they were able to tie that all together.
 It's polished stainless steel
 and then some brushed stainless steel as well.
 John, is there anything you'd like to add to that?
 - That's just a very impressive interpretation
 of what the public art subcommittee wanted to have happen.
 So it's really very nice.
 I think some of the later pictures that you've got
 helped to show it in perspective,
 looking through the entrance area there.
 - So when you walk through the arch at the building,
 this is what you would see as you approach the playground.
 And it'll be reflective with different colors
 and the sun coming off the balls.
 They designed it so kids couldn't climb on it.
 We have talked about maybe putting some flower pots
 or something around the base of it,
 just to soften it up a little bit
 'cause there's a lot of concrete in that space
 along with the building.
 So that was the proposal.
 The public art committee was excited about it
 and we're trying to get it on the agenda for city council.
 The tennis center, we have bond or hot funds,
 hotel occupancy tax allocated for this project.
 We haven't done anything with this one to date
 just because we're trying to get the tennis center out
 and it wasn't a huge priority to get the tennis center
 out to bid and we're focused on the other priorities
 they had for sculptures.
 So this one was purposely put on hold
 and we're gonna start getting this one going.
 Location would probably make most sense
 if it was near the pro shop where the largest amount
 of gathering will be by people, but that's still to come.
 And we have $35,000 for that.
 That may not be enough either,
 but we'll have to figure out and work on that budget.
 The fire station had some bond funding money
 for a piece of art and there was some discussion about it
 being a fence where the fence itself was art.
 After deliberation between the public art committee
 decided that a fence is not art.
 So they're putting up their fence as part of the construction
 of fire station number three
 and that the public art committee will go out for RFPs
 for a piece of art that will be placed in landscaping
 adjacent to the fire station.
 (mouse clicking)
 Foundations of our history is a mural
 that was actually painted on Bonnie Bray a couple of years ago
 and that building was sold and is gonna be torn down.
 So there was discussion on trying to save that mural
 with council, specifically council member.
 And we looked at it and the cost was gonna be
 probably a little bit less than half
 of what this total budget is.
 And the mural was painted on vinyl siding
 and the vinyl siding was old and it wasn't great in shape.
 So we were concerned that just removing it from the building
 was gonna start to fall apart and then putting it in storage
 and to figure out what we're gonna do with it long-term.
 So we actually came up with the idea
 and this was a project that was phase two
 of keep them beautiful plan after they did the mural
 on Dallas drive to actually paint this underpass area.
 And if you see it today,
 it's been vandalized a number of times.
 The mural that was painted on Dallas hasn't been.
 We also put a clear coat over that mural too.
 So if someone does something to it,
 we can go back and wash it off and protects that artwork.
 So we have all four kind of the panels on the bridge
 are gonna be painted with foundations of our history,
 the ladies that were instrumental in the community,
 specifically in Southeast Denton.
 And then the areas directly under the bridge
 are gonna be this kind of rust color
 because we still get some rust and water
 that comes off the bridge
 and we didn't want that going over the mural.
 So that's designed to kind of blend into that.
 So Autumn, if you're still with us,
 did you have any comments to add to that?
 - Yes, I'm still here.
 - Okay, I couldn't see my screen.
 I'll have all my, all the video.
 - No, you did.
 You provided a good summary of the projects,
 but like Gary mentioned,
 it is part of a larger project of beautifying that
 one of the main entrances into Denton
 into the downtown area.
 So we're slated to start this project next week
 and get painting.
 So keep an eye out as you drive past.
 - So that's that one.
 The MLK Junior Recreation Center is a project
 that's been going on for a few years.
 And the Public Art Committee selected an artist
 and she's known for creating the integration
 of places to sit and relax and congregate
 with people as well and figures of people.
 So she came up with this design
 that the Public Art Committee
 and City Council approved.
 It's under construction as we speak.
 It's slated to be installed in September of next year.
 We went over with staff and the artist
 and looked at locations and presented them
 to both council and the Public Art Committee.
 And what we're gonna do is re-landscape this area
 and move this flagpole over closer
 to the entry sign to the rec center
 and make this an area so kids can congregate
 or families while they're waiting.
 Specifically, we're thinking as good place for kids
 when they're waiting for their parents to pick them up.
 This is not, you don't have to cross the road.
 It's right by the front door.
 Staff can kind of still pay attention to them.
 And that'll go in this area.
 And this is something that Drew's guys
 are gonna be working on.
 And then additionally, we looked at a way
 to really beautify and soften up the building.
 If you go out there, it's just a lot of grass and brick.
 There's no really landscaping outside of this
 to really soften it up on both sides.
 So we're gonna try to address up the area
 in front of the gym in the area
 on the far left side of the building
 with some additional landscaping
 to really tie those three areas together.
 We don't necessarily have funding for that,
 but we're gonna try to do that
 after this piece of art is installed
 with some Texas native, you know, drought tolerant plants,
 maybe some river rock type thing,
 give it a little bit of a flare to it.
 - I have one thing to add there, Gary,
 that the Madeline Wiener is the artist
 and that the sculptures are called bench people
 and they're made to sit on.
 So they're actually wide enough
 that two people could probably sit side by side
 in the laps on these particular ones.
 So when he said that it's a gathering place,
 it's literally benches that people can sit on.
 And I enjoy that area.
 And the next one I'll let Drew or John talk about.
 He spent a lot of time on this one here.
 This is Denton Women's Interracial Fellowship.
 - You'll hear this also called the DWIF monument.
 And it's all about the group of women
 through the early '70s that they had formed
 to do a lot of different things.
 One of them was to have actual roads paved,
 but another was to be able to help the schools
 integrate much more effectively.
 And so it was a group of both black and white women
 that formed together for this particular purpose
 and they did a fantastic job.
 And so to be able to honor this particular group,
 we put out a scope of work
 and an RFP for people to come in
 or the artists to come in and do the bid.
 This one here stood out among all of them.
 The others were quite traditional.
 And this one was very colorful
 and it's using a type of glass,
 very heavy duty type of glass, not easily broken.
 And each has a picture of the different people
 that are involved in the DWIF.
 And it's very interactive.
 It'll use a program on your, an app on your phone.
 And when you just take a picture of it or have it there,
 it automatically calls up the information
 about that person, about what they did,
 their background and various things about their lives
 that will be able to tell the story.
 So this is a destination type of piece.
 This is where they'll have,
 we are pretty sure that school buses
 and other groups from the schools
 will come out and take a look at it.
 This one is currently proposed to be in industrial park.
 They had a couple of locations,
 but after meeting with all the ladies
 that had about a dozen people,
 either online or in person,
 they unanimously wanted it in industrial park
 and not over in Fred Moore park.
 And so that's the, what we're proposing through.
 And there's some other things
 that I know Drew will be able to talk to you a bit more
 about doing other things in industrial park
 to make sure just like the MLK sculptures
 that will have something to help dress up the park a lot.
 There were other plans, I know that were available for it.
 Two quick items on that to just add to John's description.
 We did get a grant from the state for this project
 and it was tied to the entertainment district for downtown.
 So it has to be within that area,
 within the downtown area.
 So we're really limited to Quaker Town, Industrial Street,
 Fred Moore, and I think that was it from a park space
 or it could have been on the sidewalk
 or in a parking lot type thing.
 But from a park space,
 we're fairly limited in regards
 to where we could use that money.
 So those were kind of the options to start.
 So that's why it wasn't going in any other general areas.
 And they wanted in a location
 where it's gonna get a lot of traffic
 and industrial streets gets more foot traffic
 than Fred Moore does.
 And then other locations for art.
 This is Dallas and Teasley on the left
 and Eagle and Elm on the right.
 And Eagle and Elm has had a few iterations.
 So this one's gonna change a little bit.
 But the Dallas and Teasley one is pretty much what you see.
 We did have a piece of art planned in there.
 That's what that kind of little white,
 whitish gray circle is for.
 And then we're gonna place something in Eagle Drive,
 Eagle and Elm.
 So those two artwork have not been identified yet.
 And then Carroll Boulevard has a trail on it.
 It's part of our trail plan to expand.
 But we thought that would be a good location
 to put trail sculptures that could be leased
 or on loan for the park system.
 So we could have those change maybe every three years
 just to provide a little bit of variety.
 So that was the mindset there that we could have
 three to five pieces of art along Carroll Boulevard.
 And that gets a lot of traffic as well.
 So that was another location
 that we considered for future art.
 And at that point, I'll go ahead and stop sharing
 so we can have some discussion.
 So there is a master plan that was identified
 and we're gonna go back and look at that
 as part of our master plan process as well
 for art placement and go back
 and make sure the inventory is up to speed
 and have that map public facing
 so they could see where all that is.
 What John had talked about with the technology
 on your phone, similar to a QR code,
 apps now can recognize images.
 So the thought process is that it could be all of our art,
 whether it's a mural or a sculpture.
 And then we could also even do that at our cemeteries
 where you could go and scan a headstone
 and it would give you a bio on that person.
 Our historical society is working on our veterans right now
 to do bios for those people and identify those soldiers
 and even some founders of Texas.
 So that's a long-term project.
 But eventually, when people come in for a burial,
 they could have an option to write a bio about that person.
 So that person's history is kind of preserved
 and you can put it on a website similar to Find a Grave.
 And when you brought up your phone,
 your camera would recognize that
 and link you over to Find a Grave
 where that data could be stored.
 And it doesn't cost anything to do that.
 So that's another way that we thought
 that we could take our historical cemeteries
 and really bring them back to life, you know, literally,
 and preserve the history of the people of Denton.
 You know, obviously it's impossible to go back
 and get history on all those people,
 but we can do our best with the people
 that may still have family members here.
 So that we thought that was kind of an interesting project
 that we could have interns, library staff,
 whoever work on that in the general public as a whole
 help us preserve that history.
 - Thank you, Gary.
 I broke, I see your hand.
 - So I don't have a question.
 I have a great announcement.
 We got the $9,000 and 10 cents from DVL
 to help fund the DWIF sculpture.
 So we got fully funded on that one.
 So now I can get this down to individual donors.
 So that's a good news.
 - So you said $9,000 and 10 cents?
 They had some change in their pocket
 they needed to get rid of?
 - I'm in DVL, so I knew they had 10 cents extra.
 So I rolled it into my application.
 So it works like a charm.
 - It pays to know details, I guess.
 So that's great news.
 That's first time we've heard of that too.
 So fantastic.
 So the thought, so if you remember Industrial Street Park,
 we came to the park board with a number of designs
 and we went to council and at the time council decided
 they wanted to kind of hold off on that development.
 So I guess the overall master plan that Drew's thinking
 is that we would design the sculpture.
 The sculpture and the grant has a timeline to it.
 It has to be done by August or we lose the grant.
 So the sculpture would go in
 and then phase two would be to do the other improvements
 to enhance the park itself.
 So it wasn't just a sculpture sitting
 in the middle of a grassy lot.
 So we have to kind of go back a little bit
 and look at those designs to figure out
 how we could incorporate some of the existing design ideas
 that we had with the sculpture itself.
 And one part of the design for Industrial Street
 had a small stage on that property
 that people go out there and have a one man, two man band
 playing a saxophone or whatever it would be
 for some of the activities.
 So the brainstorm that we had was to use that sculpture,
 if you remember the disks, almost as a backdrop
 for the stage and the band could face forward
 with the sculpture behind them to play entertainment.
 But then also you could use it as an outdoor classroom
 where the kids could sit on the stage and face the sculpture
 and have someone talk to them about whatever the topic is.
 It could be about the DWF ladies
 or it could be about Denton history.
 It could be about anything.
 Or you could have a presenter stand on the stage
 as you would with the musician,
 facing the grassy area with camps or adults
 learning about a topic or whatever,
 and use it as an opportunity to kind of,
 an outdoor teaching area,
 similar to what we envisioned the nook being.
 So that was kind of our early initial thought process on that.
 We're in the process of trying to sketch that up
 and just kind of hand draw it
 and kind of come up with some concepts.
 But I'll kind of leave it there for discussion.
 - Elana.
 - Hi, so I didn't put these together
 before we were in the naming rights
 or when we were doing that item earlier.
 And I just, when we were discussing the name change
 about for Industrial Park to Wolf,
 I didn't put it together
 that this sculpture was gonna be in that park.
 And I really think it should be considered when naming it
 because I don't see how naming at Wolf Park
 has very much to do with that incredible sculpture.
 And I just feel like the name of the park
 should represent the meaning
 and everything that goes into that sculpture.
 So that goes into, I would like to have that added
 to the item about the naming of the park.
 - And then when we met with the ladies,
 their comment was they spent a lot of time there
 and that's one of the places
 that they would go and meet at or go and get lunch.
 And then, you know, either walk over to the square
 or walk somewhere in that area and have lunch.
 So they all remember, you know, Wolf's Food Store.
 And that was one of, that was just one of their areas
 that they would either cross pass at or, you know, meet.
 I don't know if they really had meetings there
 but they would kind of cross pass.
 And I think, John, if you remember their conversations,
 they talked about it very highly and with a positive manner.
 So.
 - Yeah, and so I just think it's another good place
 to have community input outside of just like a small group.
 - Yeah, that's great.
 That's a great point.
 So we can definitely ask them to maybe write
 a summary letter kind of with support
 or against, you know, the concept
 since that's a major piece of art that's going in there.
 So that's a great, great idea.
 Thank you.
 - Gary, I have a concern about the vandalism to the art
 and I'm just gonna say it,
 it seems to be any art that has a face that is black.
 Vandalism occurred with Pops Carter statue
 in Quaker Town Park and then had to be relocated.
 And now there's been multiple vandalism
 with the ongoing art.
 So what plans or is there any plan to prevent vandalism?
 - Yeah, it really is an issue throughout our park system.
 Unfortunately, it's something we deal with
 on a regular basis.
 I understand that this could be targeted specifically.
 The mural is an easy one
 because we can put a clear coat on that.
 And then if you paint over top of it,
 we can literally wipe it off.
 So that's something that we'll be applying
 on a regular basis in addition to,
 and I think Autumn can comment on this,
 is murals tend to get less vandalism
 because they don't seem as like an empty canvas
 for someone to do something with.
 So it kind of deters vandalism a little bit in that sense,
 but we are going to be putting clear coat
 on the murals for sure to preserve those.
 We have expressed to the artists the concern
 about that glass and whatever that product is
 that it can't be vandalized
 and what it's gonna take to get those either vandal proof
 or less susceptible to vandalism
 and then replacement as well.
 So I think that's discussions that we're still having.
 John, I don't know if you have any updates on any of that.
 - Nothing other than these are coated too.
 And most of the rods you see are very strong,
 stainless steel type rod that goes through it.
 All the glass pieces that you will actually see
 are lenticular type glass, very thick, very difficult.
 But just like any other sculpture,
 if somebody takes a sledgehammer to it, it's gonna get damaged.
 - Yeah.
 - Have you thought about most of these structures
 have lights near them?
 Have you thought about security cameras attached
 to the already existing lighting?
 - Yes, right now, of course, with our conversations
 we've had in the last several months,
 and we did tell you that we are working
 on looking at different security cameras.
 We're testing several right now
 to see which ones are working the best
 and which ones have the clearest picture
 on top of where we can place them
 to where they're also out of vandalism's reach
 because sometimes they either get vandalized
 or they get stolen.
 So we're testing out several different types right now.
 So, and with industrial, if you remember that park,
 it did have lights there.
 And we've already spoken to the artist
 that we showed her different renderings
 of what industrial kind of, and what was envisioned before.
 And part of the vision was light.
 So if you remember that amphitheater was kind of oval shape
 and then having lights coming up from underneath
 where it's lighting from the ground
 and lighting from the air from on top
 to be able to really emphasize that space
 and now that sculpture.
 - I mean, it's very unfortunate.
 I mean, we have people vandalize our cemeteries
 all the time and go push over monuments
 that are a hundred years old
 and can't be replaced and fences.
 So it's part of what we deal with, unfortunately.
 And it's something that we'll budget for
 and anticipate it happening,
 but do our best to try to deter it.
 - Okay, I see two hands.
 Mr. Amberg was first, Burke you're next.
 - Oh, okay, I was gonna let say ladies first.
 - Well, okay, I'll gladly go first.
 I was just gonna say on that note, Gary,
 I was wondering if there was any more discussion
 on potential for a graffiti park.
 I come from the idea of provide them a space for it
 and it lowers the rate.
 - Yeah, I haven't, we haven't really talked about it much.
 We're trying to get these other projects done
 that have been on hold, but Brooke's idea was,
 and there's some cities that have them as graffiti parks
 kind of similar to Cadillac Ranch
 where you can go over there and spray paint something.
 So maybe we can get some Peterbilt's that are old
 that we could put in a ground
 and have people go out and paint them somewhere.
 But that was an idea that maybe we could provide that
 as an opportunity for people to maybe burn off some energy
 in a better, more productive way.
 - Mr. Amberg.
 - Yeah, I was gonna suggest kind of taking off
 from what Gary was saying, soften around the artistic piece
 would be to kind of like put holly bushes,
 low holly bushes around because they'll definitely keep people
 from trying to climb, it does it in a very subtle way,
 but also makes it look nice.
 It softens it up and makes it look better.
 - Part of the artist's design of this is for you
 to actually interact with it.
 So get up close to it, read it, see the images.
 So we'd have to make sure that whatever we do,
 we work with them.
 And so you could scan it with your phone
 and hear an interview with that person
 or be pushed over to a photo of that person
 or a bio or whatever it would be.
 There's more to learn with this piece.
 And the piece is really the engagement part
 to get people interested in, oh, what's that?
 And going over there and exploring.
 So this one's supposed to be made to be interactive
 and pull people into it.
 And the sphere that's in front of it
 actually has images and words on it.
 So when you walk around it, it changes.
 Is that a good explanation of it?
 So it kind of changes as you kind of walk around it.
 So the piece is intended to be interactive with people.
 So that's one consideration we have to consider.
 - Mr. Amrick, did you have an additional comment?
 - No, I was pretty much it.
 I just make a suggestion where we have interactive thing,
 obviously you couldn't use the bushes
 except for maybe behind the back where you're not.
 But the camera sounds good and the only thing
 I heard in here was to light it up a little more too.
 - There's a couple of trees we might have to take out.
 They are secondary trees, but the thought process
 would be to replace those and whether it's there
 or somewhere and that would provide a little bit
 of openness to help detract some of that
 and make sure that we get lighting in those areas.
 So that'll be something that we'll be looking at
 through the design process.
 - And the art piece, which you didn't actually see
 in the PowerPoint, there's other light elements
 that are like would line a walkway,
 have the same type of a lenticular glass.
 Right now they're proposed to be solar powered,
 but they could be powered otherwise too
 because solar power may not get between those two buildings
 on either side really well to keep it wet real well for those.
 - Well, thank you for the information.
 I am really pleased to see that Industrial Park
 may be the final resting place because this was a concern
 that came from the community and their words are,
 their words were, it seems if it's black art,
 it goes to the perceived black part of town.
 And so they asked me to bring it to the table and so I did.
 And so it's really glad to know
 that it will hopefully be in Industrial Park.
 - Yeah, thanks to John.
 He worked with Lenny McAdams to get a list of everybody
 and reached out.
 I think he personally called everybody and organized it
 for an in-person socially distanced meeting at MLK.
 And we had a couple of people online and it was good
 'cause we got just about everybody together that we could
 and got feedback from them.
 There was some earlier discussions,
 I think that happened, maybe not as a group.
 And the information that was provided to us,
 the Fred Moore would be a good location for that,
 but it was good to get that consensus
 from everybody in that support.
 - Thank you. - We presented both locations.
 - I'm sorry, John, say again.
 - We presented both locations and they were 100%
 for Industrial Park.
 Well, actually, no, one person, I think,
 in maybe the park or the public art committee
 wanted a different location,
 but that's the only dissenting vote
 of anybody that said anything.
 - Thank you, thank you so much.
 And Gary, before the Denton growth boom and COVID,
 we used to get updates about where the art was going
 and parks is, if we could add that back
 as a regular agenda item,
 that would be greatly appreciated.
 - We sure can do that.
 - All right, can you repeat that again, Francis,
 for minutes purposes?
 - We used to receive, before the Denton growth and COVID,
 we used to receive updates of art going into parks.
 I'm just requesting that be added back as an agenda item.
 - We're not gonna have an update every single month,
 but as things happen, we'll definitely provide that for you.
 - Yes, thank you for clarifying that.
 - You're welcome.
 - That's really what I meant.
 - I just wanted to make sure.
 - Speak then, that leads us right to,
 any additional concerns, comments on this topic?
 That leads us to next meeting.
 Do we have any items we would like to discuss
 for our next month's meeting?
 - I'll be able to provide an update next month.
 - Okay.
 - Eddie, is there anything that we have on the list
 that we either have coming forward
 or that we need, we owe the board
 that didn't make this agenda?
 - It was the wildflower.
 - Okay, that's right.
 So Drew's working on a wildflower plan,
 kind of a master plan that would implement wildflowers
 throughout the city to help reduce our mowing efforts,
 improve air quality and then add to beautification
 that he's been researching on other cities.
 So he's gonna present that next month
 and then go to City Council.
 - And goes to City Council the eighth.
 - Yeah, so right around the same timeframe.
 - We might have a COVID update
 that we may just put that on there as a placeholder.
 And if we have any changes,
 we can provide that to you as well.
 - Ms. Danberg.
 - All right, sorry about that.
 I was meeting myself here.
 To take two issues, one was questions, I guess.
 A lot of people have been asking about where we stock.
 I'd like to see if we can get an update on that,
 where we stock ponds and waterways in the city of Denton
 for fishing purposes, of course.
 And that would be the one.
 And your question was asked was over at,
 there on Wilson Street.
 I'm having a brain fight here.
 The park there at Wilson Street, what's that called?
 Anyway, the park at Wilson Street.
 They were asking about,
 there used to be a building here
 with the American Legion and it got torn down.
 - Fred Moore Park.
 - Fred Moore Park, thank you.
 Boy, brain fight.
 I know it off the top of my head
 and all of a sudden I couldn't even remember it.
 So the Fred Moore, they were asking about that.
 And I wanted to see where we're at on that,
 that building, status or update on that.
 - Yeah, we could definitely provide an update on ALH
 to maybe even just Fred Moore Park as a whole.
 The item similar to the stocking of the pond,
 is that something that we could provide to you
 through a Friday report or just an email
 to share you with an update on that process?
 Or is that to a point where you want a full agenda item?
 - Well, I think it would be tough
 that they could be out there to get out to the public
 so they never to go fish, basically.
 - Okay.
 - So there's one caveat to that.
 So normally it is published.
 Texas Parks and Wildlife asks us to take that down
 and in the end of April, or excuse me,
 end of March, 1st of April, they still are stocking.
 We only stock one pond
 through the neighborhood fishing program.
 They asked for us to remove that
 from our publicized websites
 to make sure that they could continue to stock,
 but there wasn't an influx of people at the ponds
 while they were stocking, or right after they stocked.
 That way people could still social distance.
 So.
 It normally is publicized on our websites
 and our social media, but we did stop that in March.
 - I wouldn't maybe back that off a little bit
 and not say, okay, here's where we're stocking today,
 we're stocking that kind of thing,
 but rather here's places where people fish.
 - Okay, yeah, we can do that.
 - In the city of Denton, here's where you can fish.
 - Yeah, I talk to people weekly about where to go fish
 and what's there, so yes, I can do that.
 - Yeah, that's, yeah.
 - So did we decide, is it an agenda item
 or is it via email?
 - I'll do an agenda item, I'll do a presentation.
 - That'd be perfect, yeah,
 and then we can make it public, yeah,
 we talked about, right?
 - Thank you so much, Alana.
 - I just have a quick, I don't know what you'll call it,
 there's a strong possibility that we might,
 COVID cases are increasing really fast
 and I don't wanna say this,
 but what if a lot of the gyms and yoga studios,
 places like that, they begin to close again,
 would the parks department be willing to maybe discount
 or waive the fees for a small yoga studio
 or Pilates studio or I don't know what,
 like athletic small businesses in town
 to have classes in the park
 so that they can be socially distanced,
 but not at the normal rates because they are struggling
 and it might be just something that could be provided
 in case we go back to a situation
 like we were in in the spring.
 - So we do have fitness groups that do planned rentals
 in the facility that we have a contract with,
 so we'd have to work through those details
 and figure out how that's kind of balancing everybody
 in a fair manner, the issue there is,
 how many people are showing up for that,
 so those are all factors we'll have to look at,
 plus we're hitting winter here soon,
 so that is a little bit challenged too,
 but that's something we can look at,
 hopefully we don't go in that direction,
 but we can put that on our list to consider
 if we get to that point.
 - Other concerns, items for discussion for next month?
 And Eddie, the only one that was left over was wildflowers.
 - You're on mute, yes, that is the only one that we had.
 - Yes, that is the only one and also adding in
 the Denton Parks Foundation back on to the list.
 - Could you repeat that, I'm sorry.
 - Wildflower and adding a Denton Parks Foundation
 back to the list.
 - Very good.
 - Eddie, just one, I guess quick thing,
 do you remember what the status of the wildflowers
 and the status of the boards and commissions is?
 - I'll get the city secretary,
 I believe if there's gonna be a change over or an update,
 I believe it's gonna be the beginning of the year.
 - Beginning of the year, okay.
 - Yeah, I believe January, but don't count me on it,
 I just need to get more information,
 hopefully I'll get that by the next
 park board meeting in December.
 Typically everyone's either comes on or rolls off
 depending on when they were due to expire
 in August timeframe, but with the delayed voting,
 everything was pushed back and that's why we're voting now.
 So I guess anybody that was set to term off or change
 that would take place in January rough timeframe,
 so we can provide some more information
 as city secretary's office gets that finalized.
 If worst case scenario as well to interject on that,
 I mean, I can send all of you an email as well
 by find further information before the park board meeting.
 - Yeah, if we could maybe just provide
 the updated board sheet, not everybody may even know
 how many years or how many terms they have so far.
 So I'll make a big good reminder.
 All right, if there are no additional comments or concerns,
 may I have a motion to adjourn the meeting?
 - Unless everyone just wants to hang on,
 we can keep talking.
 - Please, please may I have a motion
 to adjourn the meeting?
 Okay, Atlanta made a motion and Mr. Emmerich second.
 All in favor?
 - Aye.
 - Aye.
 Okay, the ayes have it, meeting is adjourned, 224, Eddie.
 - All right guys.
 - Thank you.
 - Thanks, all those can leave that don't wanna meet, right?
 - Bye everyone.
 - Bye. - Bye bye.

        
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