WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 - Time is 12.32, I am Frances Punch. 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:14.380 I am the chair for the Denton Parks and Recreation Board 00:00:14.380 --> 00:00:16.660 and welcome to the November Parks 00:00:16.660 --> 00:00:19.100 and Recreation Board meeting. 00:00:19.100 --> 00:00:24.100 Today we have two absences, one excuse and one pending. 00:00:24.100 --> 00:00:29.820 Do we have any outside calls? 00:00:30.260 --> 00:00:31.800 Or members from the public? 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:35.760 - We have no calls and no comments on the online form. 00:00:35.760 --> 00:00:39.440 - Okay, thank you so much. 00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:42.520 First item is consideration of the minutes 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:44.900 for October 12th, 2020. 00:00:44.900 --> 00:00:51.220 Do we have any questions, concerns, discussions? 00:00:51.220 --> 00:00:58.020 May I have a motion to approve the minutes? 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:00.840 - Aye. 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:08.880 - I'll motion to approve the minutes from October. 00:01:08.880 --> 00:01:12.880 - May I have a second? 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:16.100 - I'll second. 00:01:16.100 --> 00:01:20.520 - All in favor, raise hand please. 00:01:20.520 --> 00:01:23.120 - Aye. 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.680 - Aye, Denona. 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:30.560 - Okay, anyone oppose? No one opposed? 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.840 The ayes have it, the motion carries. 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:38.720 First item, we're gonna receive a report 00:01:38.720 --> 00:01:40.960 and hold discussion and give staff direction 00:01:40.960 --> 00:01:45.160 regarding the amendment to the code of ordinance 00:01:45.160 --> 00:01:50.020 as modified by ordinance 192866. 00:01:50.020 --> 00:01:56.120 And so Gary, who's doing that? 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.600 - Eddie, Eddie was gonna, that's the item he was working on. 00:01:59.600 --> 00:02:00.440 - Okay. 00:02:00.440 --> 00:02:12.680 - So based on just a quick history, 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:17.080 last month we are revisiting the ordinance 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:21.760 for the boards and commission absenteeism. 00:02:21.760 --> 00:02:25.360 And part of that process, from the last time, 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.480 we basically ended up tabling it 00:02:27.480 --> 00:02:32.480 to talk more in depth about this amendment 00:02:32.480 --> 00:02:35.280 to the code of ordinances. 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.720 And between that time, Frances Punch 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:40.400 was able to create a memo. 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.760 I don't know if you all have seen the attachment for that. 00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:45.200 It's on your backup. 00:02:45.200 --> 00:02:48.280 And it basically discusses the two things 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:51.180 to add onto the ordinance. 00:02:51.180 --> 00:02:55.160 One of them is family emergency, is that correct? 00:02:55.160 --> 00:02:56.080 I don't remember. 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.760 - Family responsibilities. 00:02:58.760 --> 00:03:00.480 - Family responsibilities. 00:03:00.480 --> 00:03:04.120 And another item that should be also in discussion 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:08.840 is part of the issue I think we're running into 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.840 is that normally we would meet for park board meetings 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.320 after six o'clock p.m. 00:03:16.320 --> 00:03:20.140 And because of COVID-19, we're doing it during the daytime. 00:03:20.140 --> 00:03:25.140 So I think one of the discussions that should be talked about 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:28.680 is how you guys wanna approach it 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:32.800 in the respect of COVID-19, 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:36.800 because right now you guys are all flexing your times 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:40.440 to get to these park board meetings during business hours 00:03:40.440 --> 00:03:43.820 and also family responsibility as well. 00:03:43.820 --> 00:03:46.760 Does that sum that up, Frances? 00:03:46.760 --> 00:03:49.880 - Yes, sounds good. 00:03:49.880 --> 00:03:54.680 - So I guess we're trying to get input 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.900 from all of you and what your thoughts are. 00:03:56.900 --> 00:03:59.280 I think our next steps after this 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.400 is we're gonna try to put it on the City Council agenda 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.160 for them to basically talk about it. 00:04:05.160 --> 00:04:07.000 And you guys are holding a stand 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:10.320 on what you wanna provide to City Council. 00:04:10.320 --> 00:04:13.080 And we're gonna move this memo forward 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:14.440 to City Council as well. 00:04:14.440 --> 00:04:21.640 - The floor is open for discussion, questions and concerns. 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.680 - We talked about this last time and there was like, 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.680 personal business, if we have personal family time 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:32.840 was one of the ones we brought up. 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:33.680 There was another one. 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.600 It's not coming to me off the top of my head. 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:40.440 Anybody? 00:04:40.440 --> 00:04:44.440 - The question is, do you have any opposition 00:04:44.440 --> 00:04:49.440 or to adding or requesting the amendments? 00:04:49.440 --> 00:04:51.880 - I don't know. 00:04:51.880 --> 00:04:56.800 Requesting the amendments to the ordinance. 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.000 And we are trying to move forward 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:04.000 and request addition, those two additions, 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.200 family responsibilities. 00:05:06.200 --> 00:05:11.200 And I think it's a pandemic, emergency situations, 00:05:11.200 --> 00:05:13.320 something of that nomenclature. 00:05:13.320 --> 00:05:17.960 - I agree to move forward with that. 00:05:17.960 --> 00:05:21.180 And thanks, Frances, for doing it. 00:05:22.840 --> 00:05:24.840 - Yeah, it's family responsibilities 00:05:24.840 --> 00:05:29.640 and then pandemic/world events/emergency situations. 00:05:29.640 --> 00:05:30.960 - Thank you, Gary. 00:05:30.960 --> 00:05:35.160 - I think it's great. 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.760 Also, I think the family piece that you have amended 00:05:38.760 --> 00:05:42.480 gives us a little broader scope. 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.280 And I know we all feel like family members should be first 00:05:46.280 --> 00:05:51.000 just in our day to day. 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:56.000 So I think those are some good verbiage 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.240 to make it all encompassing 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.760 when it comes to our family members. 00:06:01.760 --> 00:06:07.720 And as far as putting the language in there 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:11.520 about the pandemic and just working in general, 00:06:11.520 --> 00:06:13.920 I think it's harder for people to get together 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:18.680 because we do work during the daytime. 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.480 I know personally, I took off today. 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.000 So I'm gonna try to take off 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:25.880 so I can be at these meetings 00:06:25.880 --> 00:06:30.880 because some positions are a little bit busier 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:32.220 than the others. 00:06:32.220 --> 00:06:35.120 And mine is one of those where I've got a ton of folks 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.080 just in my face constantly. 00:06:39.080 --> 00:06:42.220 So I think these are some good suggestions. 00:06:42.220 --> 00:06:46.680 - Mr. Emory. 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:52.440 - Well, that was the second Gary read off 00:06:52.440 --> 00:06:53.280 when I was looking for it. 00:06:53.280 --> 00:06:54.720 Thank you. 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:55.840 And I agree with this. 00:06:55.840 --> 00:06:57.200 I think we should move forward on this. 00:06:57.200 --> 00:07:01.360 So it's definitely a large hole in the excuse column 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.480 that should be there. 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:03.320 Absolutely. 00:07:03.320 --> 00:07:10.580 - Okay, so Eddie, do I am? 00:07:10.580 --> 00:07:15.680 At the last meeting, I didn't know the correct procedure. 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.120 So what's the procedure from here? 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.080 'Cause this isn't, I don't see that this is an action item 00:07:21.080 --> 00:07:24.220 but everybody's in agreement to move forward. 00:07:24.220 --> 00:07:25.480 - This is an action item. 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.320 You guys have this one. 00:07:27.320 --> 00:07:31.040 You're moving, what you're voting for is that memorandum 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.240 and that you all agree to it as a stand. 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.360 So we can go to boot this forward to city council 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:39.280 for their discussion on how they wanna proceed 00:07:39.280 --> 00:07:41.320 on adding possibly these two items. 00:07:41.320 --> 00:07:44.900 And I think I think that, you guys are taking a stand 00:07:44.900 --> 00:07:46.800 on how they need to discuss this 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.520 because what the pandemic world situation 00:07:50.520 --> 00:07:53.640 and also what more clarity with family responsibilities 00:07:53.640 --> 00:07:56.740 is something that you guys have concerns about. 00:07:56.740 --> 00:07:59.840 - Okay, so may I have a motion to move forward 00:07:59.840 --> 00:08:02.880 with the memo as stated? 00:08:02.880 --> 00:08:07.360 - I'll motion to move forward. 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:08.200 - Second. 00:08:08.200 --> 00:08:10.440 - I'll second. 00:08:10.440 --> 00:08:12.480 - All in favor. 00:08:15.640 --> 00:08:17.240 - Okay, motion passes. 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:19.460 Next item. 00:08:19.460 --> 00:08:22.880 Receive a report, hold a discussion 00:08:22.880 --> 00:08:25.680 and give staff input regarding an update 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.960 of the city of Denton Parks and Recreation Department 00:08:28.960 --> 00:08:30.400 COVID-19 response. 00:08:30.400 --> 00:08:34.880 - Gary Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation. 00:08:34.880 --> 00:08:36.960 Just to kind of give you a high level 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.520 and then kind of bring it down to a little more detail. 00:08:40.520 --> 00:08:44.560 As of right now, we have our North Lakes Recreation Center 00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:49.560 and MLK Junior Recreation Center that are open. 00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:51.880 The natatorium is open as well 00:08:51.880 --> 00:08:58.120 with modified hours in limited programming. 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.560 Based on our current protocols, 00:09:00.560 --> 00:09:04.160 we're maintaining those facilities open to the public 00:09:04.160 --> 00:09:06.880 for programming or for fitness related 00:09:06.880 --> 00:09:09.520 or for specific swim programs. 00:09:09.520 --> 00:09:12.200 DISD is using the natatorium as well. 00:09:13.560 --> 00:09:17.560 We have been looking at reopening originally. 00:09:17.560 --> 00:09:21.320 Our reopening plan was to have DENIA open 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.280 roughly December, January, 00:09:23.280 --> 00:09:27.000 and then the senior centers open up after January 1 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.800 or when everyone comes back from the holidays. 00:09:29.800 --> 00:09:33.560 We were looking at possibly opening the senior center 00:09:33.560 --> 00:09:37.360 three days a week from roughly eight to one, 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.840 morning hours at the end of November 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.120 based off of requests that we've had. 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.460 And then DENIA would open up following that. 00:09:48.460 --> 00:09:51.920 We've had some discussions within the organization 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:54.960 and we had some this morning with staff 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.500 and we're gonna be meeting with city manager's office 00:09:57.500 --> 00:10:00.960 as well as public affairs and library later this week 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:02.980 to talk in a little bit more detail. 00:10:02.980 --> 00:10:04.780 But I think we're going to probably push 00:10:04.780 --> 00:10:07.080 some of those reopenings of the new facilities 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:08.320 back a little bit more 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:12.400 and anticipate a later opening 00:10:12.400 --> 00:10:14.940 because of the cases that are going up. 00:10:14.940 --> 00:10:17.680 And then we're also revisiting some of our protocols 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:21.200 to make sure that we're cleaning the facilities 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.000 as frequently as we can 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:28.200 and keep everybody as best we can safe. 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.480 We've had a lot of challenges like every business does. 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.080 You have people that do get sick. 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.480 We do have people that may have been exposed 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.080 and they're out for a period of time 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.160 and they're getting tested. 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:45.120 Kids at school that are possibly exposed 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:48.880 or getting tested or have been exposed and tested positive 00:10:48.880 --> 00:10:51.880 that kind of create a ripple effect 00:10:51.880 --> 00:10:54.040 throughout the families and businesses. 00:10:54.040 --> 00:10:57.840 So the other thing, not just keeping people safe 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:00.240 but it's also trying to keep our staff safe 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.280 and the more facilities we open, 00:11:03.280 --> 00:11:04.940 the thinner our staff gets 00:11:04.940 --> 00:11:06.720 and the thinner amount of people we have. 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.720 So it's been a challenge. 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.400 Staff has done a tremendous job keeping up with everything 00:11:13.400 --> 00:11:15.860 and trying to provide programs to the community 00:11:15.860 --> 00:11:18.540 and we're doing the best we can. 00:11:18.540 --> 00:11:20.120 But I think what we're probably gonna do 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:21.440 after we have discussion 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.680 is just delaying some of our reopenings. 00:11:24.680 --> 00:11:26.720 So we're gonna have some more discussion this week 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.260 with city management and the library 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:32.280 in regards to what they're gonna do as well. 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:35.180 So I would anticipate some sort of press release coming out 00:11:35.180 --> 00:11:37.400 maybe at the end of the week with an update 00:11:37.400 --> 00:11:39.760 in regards to our next steps. 00:11:39.760 --> 00:11:49.420 Any questions about our operations related to COVID? 00:11:49.420 --> 00:11:55.160 - Thank you so much. 00:11:55.160 --> 00:11:59.120 - Have any companies reached out about asking... 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:03.180 Can you hear me? 00:12:03.180 --> 00:12:04.240 - Asking about what? 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.320 - No. 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:08.320 - Yes, we can. 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:09.480 - We can hear you, yes. 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:14.880 - Any companies reach out and ask about, 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:18.600 would you be able to do COVID testing? 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.220 I know they have COVID testing 00:12:20.220 --> 00:12:25.220 like on some of the corners at the mall, 00:12:25.220 --> 00:12:30.840 but have any companies ever asked to come in 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.780 and provide COVID testing? 00:12:33.780 --> 00:12:38.780 - I haven't heard any in regards to the rec centers. 00:12:38.780 --> 00:12:41.740 I know the county does have the ones at the mall, 00:12:41.740 --> 00:12:45.820 but we haven't had any specific requests 00:12:45.820 --> 00:12:48.020 that I'm aware of for parks and recreation. 00:12:48.020 --> 00:12:54.240 - You can get a speed one at... 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.760 You can get a speed test over at CVS 00:12:56.760 --> 00:12:59.360 on Teasley and Billy Miller. 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.080 Drive in, they test you, 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.500 and then you know the results within a day. 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:10.920 - Do you guys have any plans set up already 00:13:10.920 --> 00:13:15.200 just based on the statistics of closing down playgrounds, 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:20.200 not parks, and just kind of what number percentage, 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.520 like if it hits this, we expect to do this, 00:13:22.520 --> 00:13:23.420 or is that what you're saying? 00:13:23.420 --> 00:13:25.640 We'll hear later this week? 00:13:25.640 --> 00:13:28.920 - Yeah, we're looking at two things. 00:13:28.920 --> 00:13:32.640 One, the future expansion of reopening, 00:13:32.640 --> 00:13:34.960 and then kind of what we're currently offering. 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:39.560 So we're pushing that reopening of new facilities, 00:13:39.560 --> 00:13:42.000 new programs out further. 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.120 So that's kind of our initial thought. 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:46.760 And then the existing programs that we do 00:13:46.760 --> 00:13:50.280 are the things that we need to shore up 00:13:50.280 --> 00:13:52.680 in regards to cleaning protocols, 00:13:52.680 --> 00:13:55.280 elevate them at this point in time. 00:13:55.280 --> 00:13:58.360 There are certain hours that we want to maybe cut back on. 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.680 Maybe certain programs that may be higher risk 00:14:01.680 --> 00:14:03.160 that we may not wanna do. 00:14:03.160 --> 00:14:06.280 So we're looking at those things right now. 00:14:06.280 --> 00:14:09.240 I don't know of a number of cities 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.720 that have started closing down tennis courts 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.020 and basketball courts and playgrounds like they had. 00:14:14.020 --> 00:14:16.640 I think there's been some discussion. 00:14:16.640 --> 00:14:18.320 There was one city that decided 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.480 they're not gonna have any events until May of 2021, 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.380 and they threw out some dates there. 00:14:23.380 --> 00:14:26.520 So the school districts are obviously the big, 00:14:26.520 --> 00:14:27.760 kind of the gorilla in the room 00:14:27.760 --> 00:14:29.160 in regards to what they're doing. 00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:31.840 And I think that'll kind of have a trickle down effect 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.040 onto us as well. 00:14:33.040 --> 00:14:37.600 And we have seen some of the smaller schools close, 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:38.880 but that's a struggle too, 00:14:38.880 --> 00:14:40.780 because not everyone can be home with kids 00:14:40.780 --> 00:14:41.880 and we experienced that. 00:14:41.880 --> 00:14:46.360 So it's a really tough position for everybody. 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.180 And the last thing we wanna do is close down 00:14:50.180 --> 00:14:52.440 the programs and services we provide to people, 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.520 'cause that's really an outlet for them. 00:14:55.880 --> 00:14:59.080 So we're gonna do our best 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.120 to try to keep everybody safe as we can, 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.560 and then continue, try to keep our parks open 00:15:05.560 --> 00:15:08.480 for everyone to go out and enjoy and exercise, 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:09.680 get away from the computer 00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:13.000 and get out and get some fresh air, 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.320 and we'll adjust as needed. 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.920 Hopefully we don't have to go to that extreme again. 00:15:17.920 --> 00:15:21.480 We're getting close to 4,000 active cases 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:23.480 if you look at the Denton County website. 00:15:25.040 --> 00:15:26.920 We're almost a thousand cases 00:15:26.920 --> 00:15:29.200 above the high point in the summer. 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.440 So it is definitely worse and more challenging 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:33.960 than it was early this summer. 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:38.440 But I think people are tired 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.360 and they wanna get back to normal life. 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:41.560 We're just not there yet. 00:15:41.560 --> 00:15:50.680 - We'll say that we're near the RECA park here 00:15:50.680 --> 00:15:55.440 and I'll tell you that trail there 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:59.920 is highly, highly utilized every day, every morning. 00:15:59.920 --> 00:16:03.300 So the good news is the trails are being definitely, 00:16:03.300 --> 00:16:04.880 and I think also Katie Trail 00:16:04.880 --> 00:16:07.480 knows a lot more people out there on their bikes. 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.080 So the trails have been a savior in all of this. 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:14.080 - They are getting a lot of use for sure. 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.280 - Yep. 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:23.040 Okay, if there are no additional questions or concerns, 00:16:23.040 --> 00:16:24.720 we will move to the next item. 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:29.800 We are gonna receive a report, hold a discussion 00:16:29.800 --> 00:16:32.280 and give staff input regarding the Denton Parks 00:16:32.280 --> 00:16:34.720 and Recreation, Beautification, Education 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:37.560 and Event Services Division 00:16:37.560 --> 00:16:40.640 and Clearcrete Natural Heritage Center. 00:16:40.640 --> 00:16:44.440 - Okay, Autumn is gonna talk about this. 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:45.800 I'll bring up the presentation 00:16:45.800 --> 00:16:50.080 and unless Autumn, you wanted to bring it up. 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:52.920 - Actually don't. 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:54.400 - Okay, I'll do it. 00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:57.680 So just to kind of give everybody an introduction, 00:16:57.680 --> 00:17:04.120 Katie B joined us, I guess to write a little over a year ago 00:17:04.120 --> 00:17:06.200 and came over to Parks and Recreation 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:10.000 and has been a great fit for our organization 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.800 and hopefully a great fit for what they do. 00:17:11.800 --> 00:17:13.040 There's a lot of overlap 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:16.080 and we feel it was a seamless transition 00:17:16.080 --> 00:17:17.880 in regards to the services they provide 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.280 and how we can support them as well. 00:17:20.280 --> 00:17:22.480 And then this summer with COVID, 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.640 we are looking at ways that we could streamline 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.240 a lot of our business. 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.000 We centralized our mowing practices and Drew's team. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.400 So we're mowing and maintaining the land 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:37.400 for all city assets except for like the landfill and drainage. 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.320 So that was a seamless transition. 00:17:41.320 --> 00:17:44.480 The other thing that we looked at was Clear Creek 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.400 in regards to programming that we provide there 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:49.680 and obviously our park maintenance that we do. 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:53.800 So that was moved over earlier this summer 00:17:53.800 --> 00:17:58.240 and that's moved into a new group that we took Katie B, 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:00.280 the Civic Center and all the internal 00:18:00.280 --> 00:18:03.320 and external events that we do in Clear Creek 00:18:03.320 --> 00:18:04.840 and created a new group. 00:18:04.840 --> 00:18:07.240 So that's what Autumn is here to share with you. 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:09.040 So let me go ahead and bring that up. 00:18:11.320 --> 00:18:14.080 (mouse clicking) 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:27.560 Let's see, it's a page. 00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:28.400 Okay. 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:30.960 Can you guys see that? 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.080 - Yeah, perfect introduction, Gary. 00:18:33.080 --> 00:18:37.800 All right, like you mentioned, I'm Autumn Natale, 00:18:37.800 --> 00:18:40.800 I'm Program and Events Manager. 00:18:40.800 --> 00:18:43.280 You're in the department and he mentioned 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:46.880 one of the major changes that came out of this 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.480 was Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center. 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:53.600 Sorry, something's happening with my screen. 00:18:53.600 --> 00:19:08.880 There we go, sorry about that. 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:14.280 As you all mentioned, one of the real benefits 00:19:14.280 --> 00:19:16.560 during this pandemic was people getting out to the trails 00:19:16.560 --> 00:19:21.040 and that's no exception at Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center 00:19:21.040 --> 00:19:25.000 and that transitioned over to our department 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.200 to help with the maintenance 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.520 but we saw a lot of synergy there with the outdoor efforts 00:19:30.520 --> 00:19:33.800 and educational aspects we could bring to it 00:19:33.800 --> 00:19:36.480 as well as hosting events there. 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.600 So we are looking at improving that overall 00:19:40.600 --> 00:19:43.840 and look forward to a overall master plan 00:19:43.840 --> 00:19:45.480 coming in the next year. 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.520 - Can everybody see my screen? 00:19:49.520 --> 00:19:50.360 - Yes. 00:19:50.360 --> 00:19:52.800 - Autumn, can you see it? 00:19:52.800 --> 00:19:55.040 It says Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center? 00:19:55.040 --> 00:19:55.860 - Yes. 00:19:55.860 --> 00:19:58.120 - Okay, all right, we'll make sure everyone can see it. 00:19:58.120 --> 00:20:00.160 - Yeah, you can go ahead and advance to the next slide. 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.200 - Okay, okay. 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:03.040 - Thank you. 00:20:03.040 --> 00:20:10.080 So one of the other exciting opportunities is our new team 00:20:10.080 --> 00:20:12.200 which is BEES for short. 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:16.400 It's Beautification, Education and Event Services 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.520 that brings all of those areas 00:20:18.520 --> 00:20:21.800 that were kind of off on an island on their own 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:24.000 all together to collaborate 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:27.200 and so far it's worked out really well 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:28.680 and we've had a lot of overlap 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.840 but the very first section that BEES 00:20:30.840 --> 00:20:32.800 is the beautification piece 00:20:32.800 --> 00:20:34.760 and I believe that's on the next slide. 00:20:39.080 --> 00:20:39.920 Thank you. 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:43.880 So this is where the KDB 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:46.280 Keep Deton Beautiful Initiatives will continue. 00:20:46.280 --> 00:20:49.960 I'm sure you heard that Keep Deton Beautiful Inc, 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:52.680 a nonprofit, is in the process of dissolving 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:57.160 and handing over all management and funding to the city side. 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:01.040 That has been a pretty seamless transition so far 00:21:01.040 --> 00:21:02.600 and I see it continuing that way 00:21:02.600 --> 00:21:05.840 with continuing the tree plantings, 00:21:05.840 --> 00:21:08.400 beautification and mural projects 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:11.440 and of course our city-wide litter programs 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:16.200 and volunteer projects have not slowed down 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:17.560 since the pandemic hit. 00:21:17.560 --> 00:21:18.600 We've been out there. 00:21:18.600 --> 00:21:22.080 You probably have seen our volunteers hard at work. 00:21:22.080 --> 00:21:24.040 There's a lot of very undentened 00:21:24.040 --> 00:21:26.440 so that allows for social distancing 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.280 and we've seen a lot of increase in PPE littering 00:21:30.280 --> 00:21:32.200 so we wanna make sure we get out there 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.560 and still keep our community clean 00:21:34.560 --> 00:21:38.960 because we're seeing with our residents going outdoors 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:43.360 for more litter and we wanna keep our parks 00:21:43.360 --> 00:21:48.760 just as nice for people to keep those litter free. 00:21:48.760 --> 00:21:52.560 The other aspect is environmental education. 00:21:52.560 --> 00:21:55.880 So this is where the education component comes in. 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:57.760 Sustainability is a division 00:21:57.760 --> 00:22:02.280 within the utilities wastewater department 00:22:02.280 --> 00:22:06.720 and previously for years they had managed a couple programs 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:11.600 and the main piece being the sustainability workshops. 00:22:11.600 --> 00:22:14.720 So those are coming over 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:17.480 as well as the Denton Sustainable Schools Program 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:18.800 which was previously managed. 00:22:18.800 --> 00:22:20.400 Alana, you're familiar with this 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:22.280 by Solid Waste and Recycling. 00:22:22.280 --> 00:22:25.200 Those are valuable programs 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.800 that keeps us connected with Denton ISD. 00:22:27.800 --> 00:22:32.800 It helps us attract people out to Clear Creek 00:22:32.800 --> 00:22:36.440 and it keeps sustainable education going 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:40.280 and supporting the Simply Sustainable Citywide Master Plan. 00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:46.880 And then the last piece is event services. 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:48.880 You're very familiar with our events 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.160 that we're missing so much right now. 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:52.920 A few of them are listed there. 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.960 Right now we're working on converting those to virtual 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:01.120 and trying to still enjoy extravaganza and egg hunt 00:23:01.120 --> 00:23:04.120 in a safe way coming this spring. 00:23:04.120 --> 00:23:08.240 But we also manage the rentals at the Civic Center 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.960 and all of the community events. 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.560 We partner with them to make sure that they're, 00:23:13.560 --> 00:23:16.520 they have what they need to host events within the parks. 00:23:16.520 --> 00:23:23.560 So that's our new exciting division. 00:23:23.560 --> 00:23:26.280 It's one of the really great things 00:23:26.280 --> 00:23:28.960 that came out of a tough time. 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.840 Does anyone have any questions? 00:23:30.840 --> 00:23:37.320 Yes, I can see James' hands up. 00:23:37.320 --> 00:23:39.120 - Yeah. 00:23:39.120 --> 00:23:42.480 You want me to say? 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:44.720 - No, I'm gonna take this down. 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:45.560 - Yes, thank you. 00:23:45.560 --> 00:23:46.960 I was about to request that. 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.760 - Anyway, good question. 00:23:49.760 --> 00:23:53.680 Who do we contact if schools want, 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.640 the students want our schools organized 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.920 to take people out to the Clear Creek Reserve? 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:02.360 Who do they contact here? 00:24:02.360 --> 00:24:03.600 You? 00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:05.080 - Yes, that would be me. 00:24:05.080 --> 00:24:09.800 I'll go ahead and get my email to each of you. 00:24:09.800 --> 00:24:14.040 But any school presentations would come through us 00:24:14.040 --> 00:24:16.320 if you wanted a guided hike out at the trails. 00:24:16.320 --> 00:24:18.440 The trails are open for anyone to use. 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:19.800 We've already had school groups 00:24:19.800 --> 00:24:21.480 going out there on their own. 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.800 But if you wanna be connected with a guide, 00:24:24.800 --> 00:24:27.760 then that would be our group. 00:24:27.760 --> 00:24:29.640 - Okay, that'd be great. 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.600 - Autumn, I was curious if you guys had any programming 00:24:32.600 --> 00:24:37.600 or specific area that focused on making sure 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:39.840 that we were getting all different types of people 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:42.240 to the parks for inclusivity, 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.360 if you had something specific in regards to that. 00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:47.560 - Yes, yeah, we're actually working 00:24:47.560 --> 00:24:49.480 with our education coordinator right now 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.840 in developing a program that's linked to the book 00:24:52.840 --> 00:24:59.800 Black Faces, White Spaces. 00:24:59.800 --> 00:25:03.320 And so that's encouraging minority groups 00:25:03.320 --> 00:25:05.040 to come out to the outdoors 00:25:05.040 --> 00:25:08.400 and identifying the things that might be limiting them 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:10.840 from those opportunities. 00:25:10.840 --> 00:25:14.440 But specifically partnering with TWU 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:16.960 to have school groups come out and, 00:25:18.120 --> 00:25:20.400 sorry, university groups come out 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:25.400 and do either a guided hike or a diving trip. 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.200 And we've looked at an overnight camping trip. 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:30.240 - Thank you. 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:37.800 - So you know I probably have questions 00:25:37.800 --> 00:25:39.760 about different sustainable schools. 00:25:39.760 --> 00:25:43.560 So what is the plan with continuing that program? 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:48.160 Is it gonna be like where it used to, 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.160 like schools would participate and get money 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:54.320 from the recycling fund for the school 00:25:54.320 --> 00:25:55.920 to do environmental programs? 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:57.280 Like how is that gonna be? 00:25:57.280 --> 00:26:01.840 It's kinda like what's the form of it now? 00:26:01.840 --> 00:26:05.080 - Right, so the form is pretty much the same. 00:26:05.080 --> 00:26:08.160 We're gonna provide presentation support 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.480 and guidance and resources. 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.920 But the funding aspect, that previously came 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:15.600 from solid waste and recycling. 00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:19.960 And I understand that that was tied to funds from Pratt. 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.640 And with the decrease in commodities, 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:25.920 they're seeing a decrease in that funding. 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.200 So that department has decided to cease funding 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.040 for at least this year. 00:26:32.040 --> 00:26:34.840 And we're looking at potential incentives for the schools, 00:26:34.840 --> 00:26:39.200 whether that be some kind of award or recognition 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.560 that's not monetary. 00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:46.040 But we're open to suggestions if anyone has them. 00:26:46.040 --> 00:26:49.640 But we are going to continue with the same support 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:51.240 that we provide for the schools 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.560 with the exception of the monetary. 00:26:54.560 --> 00:26:57.120 - So y'all will still be like working 00:26:57.120 --> 00:27:02.000 with their custodians and the administration 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.960 to ensure that there is recycling infrastructure 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.800 in the schools and they have everything they need 00:27:07.800 --> 00:27:12.800 to have more sustainable infrastructure all around. 00:27:12.800 --> 00:27:16.800 - Right, so our piece in this is providing 00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:19.800 the educational resources and connecting people 00:27:19.800 --> 00:27:22.280 to the right person in the city. 00:27:22.280 --> 00:27:25.320 For the recycling aspects, for the waste audits 00:27:25.320 --> 00:27:27.600 and increasing those recycling rates, 00:27:27.600 --> 00:27:31.160 that will fall to the recycling education coordinator 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.600 that's still within the sustainability division. 00:27:34.600 --> 00:27:36.800 Currently that position is vacant, 00:27:36.800 --> 00:27:39.120 but there are two staff members 00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:40.800 who are addressing that right now. 00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:45.640 - Just to understand where the division between 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.120 what we're doing and what sustainability is doing, 00:27:48.120 --> 00:27:51.840 the easiest way is all the regulatory items 00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:54.360 is still staying within sustainability. 00:27:54.360 --> 00:27:58.400 All the programmatic things that they used to do 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.680 came over to Parks and Recreation. 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:05.400 That line is still a little wiggly 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.640 on some of the things that we do and they do, 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:13.280 but that's the easiest way to explain the split from that. 00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:15.800 So from a programming standpoint 00:28:15.800 --> 00:28:17.360 and from a park maintenance standpoint, 00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:20.560 that's what we're doing with the sustainability programs 00:28:20.560 --> 00:28:22.560 and what Autumn just talked about 00:28:22.560 --> 00:28:25.600 and then from a park maintenance standpoint, obviously. 00:28:25.600 --> 00:28:27.560 But all the regulatory things, 00:28:27.560 --> 00:28:31.560 whether it's air quality, all those types of things 00:28:31.560 --> 00:28:33.760 are still being done by sustainability. 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.240 - Autumn, I'm curious, what is the gap in funding 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.520 that exists that you would have been giving out 00:28:41.520 --> 00:28:43.520 as incentives? 00:28:43.520 --> 00:28:45.440 - So I don't know that piece. 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.080 I haven't seen the actual numbers. 00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:49.920 I know that Solid Waste had stepped in 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.720 and it changes from year to year on the commodities. 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:55.160 So I don't know what the numbers are 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.440 for this past year that they didn't fund, 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.280 but I could find out and get that information. 00:29:01.280 --> 00:29:02.800 - Yeah, that would be awesome. 00:29:02.800 --> 00:29:04.240 I'd love to talk to our board 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.480 and see if there's potential or funding grants 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.000 that could help fund the program. 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:13.440 - I have a question. 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:18.320 So you said earlier, like all the educational stuff 00:29:18.320 --> 00:29:21.840 for internal and external pretty much for sustainability 00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:24.640 is gonna be like funneled through the bees. 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:30.240 What is the plan for educating the internal parks 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.040 and rec staff about sustainability? 00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:36.640 Because I know like when you hire people 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.280 who are maybe an expert in one thing 00:29:39.280 --> 00:29:43.160 and then transition them into like a new way of thinking 00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.160 or a new position, they might need a little training 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.960 to understand fully what sustainability is 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.760 and how that impacts each job and division. 00:29:52.760 --> 00:29:57.000 - Right, yeah, so sustainability is a big piece 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.600 of our strategic plan in the department, 00:29:59.600 --> 00:30:02.480 but citywide, we've got a city green team 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.520 that just started back up last week. 00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:10.280 And we have, I think four or five parks and rec staff members 00:30:10.280 --> 00:30:11.640 a part of that green team. 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.520 And that's one of the things we're discussing 00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:17.360 is how can we can take the information in those meetings 00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:19.240 and bring it back to our own departments. 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.520 So that may be a future presentation 00:30:21.520 --> 00:30:25.400 for the whole department to allow for all staff 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.120 to be familiarized with sustainability initiatives, 00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:33.440 but how they can implement them now at the different rec centers 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.720 or out at the parks. 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:38.160 - One of the challenges we do have, 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.760 and Drew can attest to this, is our garbage cans. 00:30:41.760 --> 00:30:45.000 Our park system, we have, I don't know, 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.960 I'm gonna guess here a thousand of the 55 gallon drums, 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.440 and we have a blue and green one right next to each other, 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.240 and they're contaminated all the time. 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.160 So we do need to look at a way 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:01.120 that we can have better containers 00:31:01.120 --> 00:31:03.800 that make it easier for people to self-identify 00:31:03.800 --> 00:31:05.960 where they're supposed to be putting items. 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:10.880 The problem is, we went out and looked at some prices 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.120 probably a year ago, a year and a half ago, 00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:17.080 and it was a million dollars to replace all our trash cans. 00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:20.440 And on the list of priorities, I don't know where that sits. 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.600 It's a hard pill to swallow 00:31:22.600 --> 00:31:24.600 to spend a million dollars on trash cans. 00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:27.440 But that's an issue for sure. 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.800 And so it's not just staff, it's still the general public 00:31:30.800 --> 00:31:35.120 in trying to get them to not contaminate, you know, 00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:40.120 one can across the entire organization of the park system. 00:31:40.120 --> 00:31:45.280 - I definitely am familiar with that issue. 00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:49.720 - But I thought it had something to do with two cans. 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:55.520 If they get corrupted, or what do you call it? 00:31:55.520 --> 00:31:57.480 - Contaminated? - Contaminated. 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.800 - Yeah, why even bother with two cans? 00:32:01.800 --> 00:32:05.680 - We want to still try, right? 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.320 So, I mean, we don't wanna lose the effort 00:32:08.320 --> 00:32:10.960 for trying to recycle in our community. 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.280 And that's something that we're gonna continue to work on 00:32:14.280 --> 00:32:17.720 with the educational factor, you know, really, 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:19.360 I know Alana probably had, you know, 00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:20.760 she's got experience with it. 00:32:20.760 --> 00:32:21.920 You start young, you know, 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.960 if you get the word out in the school system 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.080 that, you know, this is the benefit of recycling, 00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:28.520 then they take that home, 00:32:28.520 --> 00:32:30.160 and then that continues to carry on. 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.360 So, you know, Autumn and I have already talked about this, 00:32:32.360 --> 00:32:34.360 that we really want to start 00:32:34.360 --> 00:32:36.800 that kind of educational factor again, 00:32:36.800 --> 00:32:39.560 and really get into the focus of getting back 00:32:39.560 --> 00:32:42.880 into the schools to educate children on recycling, 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.600 'cause, you know, they're there at the parks 00:32:45.600 --> 00:32:46.480 with their parents, 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.760 and then when something goes to go in a can, 00:32:48.760 --> 00:32:51.160 they can say, no, you know, Mom and Dad, you know, 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.000 your water bottle goes in the blue can, 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.960 and your regular trash goes in the green can, 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:57.160 and this is why. 00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.960 So it's something that we'll continue to work on, 00:32:59.960 --> 00:33:01.880 or are gonna continue to work on. 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:03.800 - Brooke, if you can find us a million dollar grant 00:33:03.800 --> 00:33:06.160 for trash receptacles, that'd be fantastic. 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:12.160 - You know how I feel about our trash cans through the parks? 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.680 - Yeah, they are ugly. 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:15.680 - These are the worst trash cans. 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.320 - Yeah, they fill up with water. 00:33:19.320 --> 00:33:22.000 It's just, yeah, they're not attractive. 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.800 - Of course, like right around the trash can 00:33:23.800 --> 00:33:26.200 is just like everything that should be in it, 00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.800 and I genuinely don't think people are like, 00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:31.200 I'm so lazy, I'm not gonna stretch my arm. 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.320 Yeah, I'll work on that one. 00:33:33.320 --> 00:33:38.760 - Any additional concerns, comments, questions? 00:33:38.760 --> 00:33:43.720 Well, thank you all for the input, 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:46.640 and thank you, Autumn, for being so thorough. 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:47.920 - Thank you. 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.000 - It's a new group, so we're looking forward 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.200 to what it can be down the road, 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:57.080 and the Clear Creek Master Plan was done in 2014. 00:33:57.080 --> 00:34:00.160 So every five years, you typically wanna address that 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.640 and just kind of relook at it. 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.040 So we are going to council, we've been negotiating 00:34:05.040 --> 00:34:08.040 with a, evaluating, negotiating a firm 00:34:08.040 --> 00:34:11.480 to come help us finish the Master Plan for the park system. 00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.080 Since Glenn left, and then COVID, 00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:15.000 it's been on hold outside of the trails. 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.400 We talked about the past couple meetings. 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.400 We are gonna integrate Clear Creek into that, 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.200 so we can get that updated 00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:23.520 and try to continue to move forward. 00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:25.960 It's such a major hidden diamond 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.080 in our system for the city. 00:34:28.080 --> 00:34:30.360 We wanna get more people out there, 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.280 and there's gotta be a balance. 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:33.800 We can't have too many people go out there, 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.840 'cause then you kind of start a negative impact, 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.440 but the more people we can get out there 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.280 starting utilizing that resource, 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.040 the better for the entire city. 00:34:42.040 --> 00:34:44.440 - I have actually a couple of questions 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.120 regarding Clear Creek. 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.880 One is, I've been out there in a couple of weeks, 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.320 but the last few times I went out there, 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.840 the porta potty that's available for people 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.600 was just in really bad shape, 00:34:59.600 --> 00:35:02.920 and it was quite smelly. 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.680 - When you went out there, was there one porta potty or two? 00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:08.040 - Just one, it was kind of like pushed back. 00:35:08.040 --> 00:35:10.320 - Was it gray or red? 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.720 We're getting specific. 00:35:13.720 --> 00:35:15.680 The reason why. - No, there was only one. 00:35:15.680 --> 00:35:18.400 - There was only one, okay. - It was by the parking area. 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.520 - And the reason why is because I took to council 00:35:21.520 --> 00:35:25.760 a contract to get rid of UnitedSite Services, 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.000 and now we have Five Star Rentals. 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.240 Five Star Rental is a Denton company. 00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:31.600 - Yeah, I know, I would- 00:35:31.600 --> 00:35:35.320 - And they're very customer-oriented. 00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.120 They've been great to us so far. 00:35:37.120 --> 00:35:38.960 They're the ones that help come in 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.920 whenever COVID first hit, and we had the laundry trailer. 00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.320 We helped open up the restrooms. 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.160 They had the hand-washing stations. 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:47.720 They've been very good. 00:35:47.720 --> 00:35:51.400 UnitedSite Services is no longer with us as a contractor, 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:55.560 but we're having issues with them coming to get their cans. 00:35:55.560 --> 00:35:57.280 - See, that's what it seemed like. 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.600 It seemed like it wasn't supposed to be used. 00:36:00.600 --> 00:36:01.840 - We- - Yeah, that makes sense. 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.040 - I have tried since September weekly, 00:36:05.040 --> 00:36:06.680 Carlotta sends an email out, 00:36:06.680 --> 00:36:09.000 and I try to follow that for them to come 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.760 and get the rest of their cans. 00:36:12.120 --> 00:36:15.120 We're trying to move up the chain with UnitedSite Service, 00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:16.520 but we haven't had any luck 00:36:16.520 --> 00:36:18.280 actually getting to the top lately. 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.600 So hopefully they will come and get theirs 00:36:20.600 --> 00:36:22.720 because they are very bad. 00:36:22.720 --> 00:36:26.440 But Five Star Rental does have a new porta potty out there. 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.560 It's very clean, and they keep it clean. 00:36:28.560 --> 00:36:31.440 So that is something that we've worked on 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.560 trying to get UnitedSite Service out in Five Star- 00:36:34.560 --> 00:36:36.160 - What happens if they don't come? 00:36:36.160 --> 00:36:38.360 Like, do you have to- 00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.960 - We will eventually make sure it's gone, 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:42.360 but we'll take them. 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.200 We've already gotten, we already have two or three 00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:47.920 at the service center that we've removed 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.000 because of those reasons, 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.240 and we're just waiting for them to come get them also. 00:36:51.240 --> 00:36:53.240 - That's just terrible. 00:36:53.240 --> 00:36:55.080 - Okay, Drew, are they locked, 00:36:55.080 --> 00:36:57.440 or can people actually enter them? 00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:58.720 - You can enter them, 00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:02.040 but they haven't been cleaned since probably September. 00:37:02.040 --> 00:37:02.920 - We probably should go ahead 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:04.440 and just put a lock or something on it 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.240 so people don't even bother opening it. 00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:08.080 - Yeah, so- 00:37:08.080 --> 00:37:10.440 - 'Cause they're thinking that we're not maintaining them 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.520 when we're trying to encourage the company 00:37:12.520 --> 00:37:13.760 to come pick them up. 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.840 - The last time I was there, 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.600 you could smell them down the trail. 00:37:16.600 --> 00:37:17.440 - Okay. 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:18.680 - It was pretty bad. 00:37:18.680 --> 00:37:19.520 - All right. 00:37:19.520 --> 00:37:20.360 - We'll look to go- 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:21.200 - I don't wanna talk about it anymore. 00:37:21.200 --> 00:37:23.080 - Sound like a new diet plan to me. 00:37:23.080 --> 00:37:26.040 - Alaina, your second question. 00:37:26.040 --> 00:37:30.560 - Oh, yes, thank you for reminding me, Princess. 00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:31.680 I totally forgot. 00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:37.160 When will the rest of the little trails be open? 00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:40.280 'Cause you can't, like, I know sometimes it rains, 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.360 and that causes an issue. 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.240 But it seems like even when it's dry, 00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:46.280 you can't do the full loop out there, 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.280 and I was just wondering when I could expect 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:49.880 to be able to do that full loop. 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.640 - So we have- - Like the big one 00:37:53.640 --> 00:37:55.240 that goes by Elm Fork. 00:37:55.240 --> 00:37:58.520 - So our master naturalists are constantly, 00:37:58.520 --> 00:38:00.040 in fact, they're there today, 00:38:00.040 --> 00:38:03.000 and they're normally there on Mondays and Thursdays 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.360 helping get our trails open, 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.760 whether that's helping us clear trails, 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.520 helping to make sure that they're closed 00:38:08.520 --> 00:38:11.440 when they need to be closed due to the weather or rain. 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.720 But as you know, it was great this summer when it was hot. 00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:16.480 Most of those trails are shaded, 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.040 so you get a little beat of the heat out in those trails. 00:38:20.040 --> 00:38:23.480 That does cause an issue for them to dry. 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:24.720 They don't dry in there as quickly 00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:25.960 because they don't get the sunlight 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.200 that some of our other trails do. 00:38:28.200 --> 00:38:30.400 So we are working on that. 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.120 Gary, myself, and Autumn, we've gone through and looked at, 00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:35.720 like we said, it's in parks now, park maintenance, 00:38:35.720 --> 00:38:39.400 and it's going to help make sure that we can kind of 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:40.880 update those trails and get them 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.680 to where we can get those open quicker. 00:38:42.680 --> 00:38:44.520 I can't give you an answer right now, 00:38:44.520 --> 00:38:47.760 but I can look at that and send you an answer next Monday 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.480 on when we anticipate those trails opening up, 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.880 especially we've had quite a bit of dry weather lately. 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.880 - The one issue was the constant flooding 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.840 of some of those trails. 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.360 And I guess it could be a point where 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.360 I don't know if the dam clearing 00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.600 made a significant impact on that or not. 00:39:11.600 --> 00:39:15.040 But we've talked about even elevated trails 00:39:15.040 --> 00:39:17.040 if we have to in certain areas. 00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:18.720 That's obviously a long-term, 00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:20.440 that's probably a grant project. 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.640 You can add that to your list, Brooke, 00:39:22.640 --> 00:39:27.520 but that's the most expensive trail that we can build 00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:32.040 in that, or trying to open up the air above the trail 00:39:32.040 --> 00:39:34.280 to try to get some more sunlight on it. 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.600 So that's a challenge on some of those trails 00:39:36.600 --> 00:39:38.560 with how low they are. 00:39:38.560 --> 00:39:40.400 And obviously we haven't been able to open up 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.800 the 380 parking lot too. 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.200 - Do you have a question for you specifically? 00:39:49.200 --> 00:39:52.440 Did you work on the River Legacy Park 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:53.960 when you were in Arlington? 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.040 - That was not my area. 00:39:57.040 --> 00:40:01.880 Park maintenance was a different AD. 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.520 I did have some, we did programming out there 00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:08.200 and we did do the paddling trail 00:40:08.200 --> 00:40:10.160 that is at River Legacy as well. 00:40:10.160 --> 00:40:14.080 But yes, that was part of our park inventory. 00:40:14.080 --> 00:40:17.440 There was a nonprofit that ran the Science Center 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.520 and they handled that and they did some of their own camps, 00:40:21.520 --> 00:40:24.000 but we did all park maintenance and programming 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.120 within the park itself. 00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:29.080 And that entire park would flood 00:40:29.080 --> 00:40:34.080 and be under six, eight feet of water once or twice a year. 00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:36.600 It would be up to the roofs on the pavilions 00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:39.520 and we'd have to shut it down for a week or two 00:40:39.520 --> 00:40:42.280 and then go back in there and clean it up. 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.160 So there was a significant amount of water in that park 00:40:45.160 --> 00:40:46.880 when we had major rainstorms. 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.080 - Actually, I grew up going to that park. 00:40:50.080 --> 00:40:52.960 We grew up in Ulysses, right next to it. 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.320 - Yeah, it's definitely a destination park. 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.280 I think the President Bush had been out there a few times 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.440 riding the mountain bike trails. 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:01.680 - That's cool. 00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:05.680 Okay, I have one last comment and I'll stop you guys. 00:41:05.680 --> 00:41:09.560 I just wanted to say, I recently saw the Quarry Trail. 00:41:09.560 --> 00:41:12.280 I guess it's almost finished or it is finished. 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:13.200 It's awesome. 00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:16.440 They did a really great job with that one. 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.800 Those of you who don't know what the Quarry Trail is, 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.920 I'll let y'all explain it, 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.040 but it's, what is it the Master Naturalist put it in? 00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:27.080 I'll stop, go ahead. 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.280 - Just to add to that, 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.920 the one thing that we are looking to change 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.360 is the North parking lot. 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.640 There's a restroom facility up there 00:41:38.640 --> 00:41:40.640 and a gravel parking lot. 00:41:40.640 --> 00:41:45.400 And that for the most part, it's been closed and locked. 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.760 We wanna get into a routine where that's open 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.040 on a regular basis as well. 00:41:50.040 --> 00:41:52.520 And that restroom facility is open as well. 00:41:52.520 --> 00:41:54.560 We're speaking of restrooms. 00:41:54.560 --> 00:41:59.000 And across the street, there's 240 acres, 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:04.000 230 some acres that we have the ability to utilize 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.320 through our utility department. 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.080 And we're currently building mountain bike trails out there 00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:13.280 that will be dedicated for mountain biking. 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.400 When we open up that parking lot on the North side, 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.160 we're gonna have the mountain bikers park there. 00:42:21.160 --> 00:42:23.920 And then there'll be a trail to go up across the street 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:26.000 where they can get in and start the mountain bike trail. 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.560 So we had a group of volunteers go out 00:42:28.560 --> 00:42:31.480 and start marking it two weeks ago. 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.960 And we marked about two to three miles of trails. 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.600 And then we have another marking day on the 20th, 00:42:36.600 --> 00:42:40.400 which is the Friday of this week to go out there 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.320 and mark some more trails. 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.120 It'll probably take us two or three more days 00:42:45.120 --> 00:42:46.040 to get everything done. 00:42:46.040 --> 00:42:48.640 We're somewhere around seven miles of trails 00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:50.280 that we envision out there. 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.840 And then it'll be a community build. 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.360 So we'll be depending on volunteers to go out there 00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.480 and help clear the areas for the mountain bike trails. 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.040 We have a few of our master naturalists 00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:02.800 helping on it as well, 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.360 as well as some of our mountain bike enthusiasts 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.280 that we've been working with on our focus groups 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.880 and some of our store owners as well are helping. 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.440 So we don't have a dedicated funding source for it. 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.920 So it's what equity is what's gonna build that. 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.640 But so that's also gonna help us maintain that restroom 00:43:21.640 --> 00:43:23.480 and improve that parking lot area too, 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.880 'cause it doesn't get as much use as it should. 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:27.880 And now that we have that open, 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.200 that should open up those trails on the north side too, 00:43:30.200 --> 00:43:32.960 'cause there's some nice trails north of that parking lot 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.000 that you can go out and enjoy that are just grass trails 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.160 that are out in the open. 00:43:37.160 --> 00:43:41.080 So that's expanding really our programming opportunities 00:43:41.080 --> 00:43:42.240 for that park. 00:43:42.240 --> 00:43:45.920 - Okay, I got a question about- 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:46.760 - Yes, Brooke. 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.040 - So we were just out there and I was curious 00:43:51.040 --> 00:43:53.640 if you had any plans on building little bridges 00:43:53.640 --> 00:43:56.080 that cross over like some of the little 00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:58.320 creek ways that come through. 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.280 I don't mind crossing them however my dog does 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.240 and he gets very wet. 00:44:03.240 --> 00:44:04.520 - Are you talking about Clear Creek 00:44:04.520 --> 00:44:06.080 or at the mountain bike? 00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:09.640 - Yes, yes we do. 00:44:09.640 --> 00:44:12.920 We're working with a master nationalist now. 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.480 We do have a Boy Scout, 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.520 two Boy Eagle Scout projects going on. 00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:19.520 One is almost complete. 00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:21.120 The other one just got started 00:44:21.120 --> 00:44:25.200 and then the master naturalist is gonna build another bridge 00:44:25.200 --> 00:44:26.760 to cross some of those wet areas. 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:29.080 Yes, the south side of the lake, 00:44:29.080 --> 00:44:31.400 I guess that one got washed away. 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:32.240 - Yes. 00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:36.280 - Okay, and Autumn, I thought of a question. 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:42.560 The tree giveaway, is that still an event that will occur? 00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:48.320 - Yes, we just hosted the tree giveaway last month 00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:51.160 on the 24th that we talked about 00:44:51.160 --> 00:44:54.240 that being a COVID ready event. 00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:57.880 There were very few adjustments that we had to make 00:44:57.880 --> 00:44:59.920 but we see that continuing 00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:02.240 and we've even discussed the possibility 00:45:02.240 --> 00:45:05.800 of maybe hosting a second one in the spring 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:07.360 depending on funding. 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.680 But seeing as how that's a drive through, 00:45:10.680 --> 00:45:15.220 distanced, great way to get people trees to plant, 00:45:16.600 --> 00:45:18.240 we will continue that. 00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:21.080 - I usually receive an email 00:45:21.080 --> 00:45:23.680 'cause I have been on the list, 00:45:23.680 --> 00:45:25.320 but I did not receive one. 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:27.200 Do I need to re-register? 00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:30.720 What's the process for people to find out about the trees? 00:45:30.720 --> 00:45:33.920 - I can check on that for you and send you an email, Frances. 00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.760 I'm sorry that you didn't receive that. 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.720 - I'm actually also someone, 00:45:38.720 --> 00:45:41.400 I've gotten a tree like four years now 00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:43.060 and I did not get one this year 00:45:43.060 --> 00:45:47.080 because I had no idea that it happened until afterwards. 00:45:47.080 --> 00:45:47.920 - Okay, yeah. 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.360 So we've scheduled registrations 00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.560 then every year on October 1st, 00:45:53.560 --> 00:45:56.040 but I will check on both of your registrations 00:45:56.040 --> 00:45:58.680 or subscriptions to our newsletter. 00:45:58.680 --> 00:45:59.720 You should have gotten it. 00:45:59.720 --> 00:46:02.840 Unless you randomly hit unsubscribe, 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:04.920 that sometimes happens. 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:06.320 I will say, I did get it. 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.240 So I did not get a tree, 00:46:09.240 --> 00:46:11.080 but I did get it. 00:46:11.080 --> 00:46:11.920 Thank you, Autumn. 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.160 - Utility, don't they send it in with the utilities? 00:46:15.160 --> 00:46:17.000 - They do. 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.560 - You get your utility bill and you get that newsletter. 00:46:19.560 --> 00:46:22.000 I saw it in there and remember long ago, 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.360 but I have seen it in there. 00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.080 - Yeah, it was in the Citizen Connection 00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:28.460 that you're talking about in the resident update 00:46:28.460 --> 00:46:30.080 that went out as well. 00:46:30.080 --> 00:46:31.800 But definitely we wanna make sure 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:33.960 that you guys are getting those direct emails from us 00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.800 so we have the best, most accurate information. 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:38.640 - Autumn, can we just, 00:46:38.640 --> 00:46:41.360 can we see if we can get all of the park board registered? 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.360 Just make sure everyone is on that list. 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.960 It was very successful this year and fun, so. 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.540 - I have one question. 00:46:49.540 --> 00:46:53.600 Everybody's talking about the trails 00:46:53.600 --> 00:46:55.980 and I think they're awesome. 00:46:55.980 --> 00:46:59.880 Is there any way on the website, 00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:01.760 when you click on the trails 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.900 on the park, Denton Parks and Rec website, 00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:09.520 it's not really user friendly 00:47:09.520 --> 00:47:12.380 for someone who's not from Denton, like me. 00:47:12.380 --> 00:47:15.840 You've got a lot of people moving to the city 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.820 from California and all over the country. 00:47:18.820 --> 00:47:24.660 So maybe a map that talks about the walking trails 00:47:24.660 --> 00:47:28.140 and the bike trails that are, 00:47:28.140 --> 00:47:31.400 that the city offers. 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:33.160 - It's on our list. - On the website. 00:47:33.160 --> 00:47:35.080 - Yeah, we-- - And maybe even 00:47:35.080 --> 00:47:38.140 in visitor center. 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:41.240 - That's been on our list. 00:47:41.240 --> 00:47:43.280 We've been talking about it for the past year 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.500 to get that updated. 00:47:45.500 --> 00:47:48.040 We actually, earlier this summer, 00:47:48.040 --> 00:47:49.960 we had a couple of volunteers go out 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.120 and ride all of our major trails 00:47:53.120 --> 00:47:54.880 with their bike with a camera. 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.940 So staff's been editing that 00:47:56.940 --> 00:48:00.040 and I saw the first proof last week 00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:02.980 where it's kind of going fast forward along the trails 00:48:02.980 --> 00:48:05.440 and then it gives you little tidbits of information 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:06.680 and facts as you're riding. 00:48:06.680 --> 00:48:07.600 So you can kind of see 00:48:07.600 --> 00:48:09.440 and it shows you a map where you're at. 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.640 So that should be coming out real soon. 00:48:11.640 --> 00:48:13.520 So that's good timing on the question, 00:48:13.520 --> 00:48:17.040 but we do have it on our list of things to do 00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:19.480 is improve the website with our trails. 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.600 - Bike sales are up. 00:48:22.600 --> 00:48:24.320 That's all over the news. - Absolutely. 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:25.160 Yeah. 00:48:25.160 --> 00:48:26.320 - Bike sales and kayaks. 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.180 - I love your idea. 00:48:29.180 --> 00:48:35.720 The trail, what they did in the environment 00:48:35.720 --> 00:48:36.560 was pretty clever. 00:48:36.560 --> 00:48:38.880 They had actually some boy scouts 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.220 and I think even a girl scout or two got involved 00:48:42.220 --> 00:48:44.880 and they put, not only did they put a map together, 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.920 but they put it so you could get to GPS court 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.840 and so you can put your cell phone and follow the trail 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.600 and it shows you where you're going in real time on a GPS. 00:48:55.600 --> 00:48:57.800 So that's pretty cool. 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:03.920 And they just got kids to do it for them. 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.720 You'd be surprised what these kids can do today. 00:49:05.720 --> 00:49:06.560 - Yeah. 00:49:08.120 --> 00:49:12.220 - Okay, anything else before we move to the next item? 00:49:12.220 --> 00:49:14.840 All right. 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.320 Thank you again, Autumn. 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:21.820 Next item, receive a report, hold a discussion 00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:25.320 and give staff input regarding the naming applications 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.280 for parks and trails as submitted by residents, 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:32.360 local developers and the parks and recreation department. 00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.960 - Okay, let me go ahead and bring that up. 00:49:39.120 --> 00:49:41.960 (pages rustling) 00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:43.240 I don't have a PowerPoint, 00:49:43.240 --> 00:49:46.840 but I'm gonna open up the AIS that we can follow. 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:53.820 I'm sure you remember we've talked about it a number of times 00:49:53.820 --> 00:49:58.820 over the past year in regard to updating the policy 00:49:58.820 --> 00:50:04.840 for the naming within our park system of parks and facilities. 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.920 And during the past year, we've had a number 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.280 of community groups and developers reach out to us 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:18.280 about naming of a few of our parks and fields. 00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:22.840 During this process to get the policy approved, 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:26.440 we asked them to hold off and submit it 00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.320 once it was completed. 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.200 So once it was finalized, 00:50:30.200 --> 00:50:32.960 we did reach out to everybody that had talked to us 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.040 over the past year and asked them to go ahead 00:50:35.040 --> 00:50:38.760 and resubmit or actually submit an application. 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:40.360 And that was part of the process 00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.300 is to get an application together that they could fill out 00:50:43.300 --> 00:50:44.920 and turn into the city. 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.920 So we have received a total of five applications 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.660 from the community. 00:50:51.660 --> 00:50:55.680 And we've submitted parks and recreation 00:50:55.680 --> 00:50:58.720 a number of submittals as well. 00:50:58.720 --> 00:51:02.360 So the process, if you remember, 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:05.640 is that the application submitted goes to the city manager's 00:51:05.640 --> 00:51:08.560 office or the department. 00:51:08.560 --> 00:51:11.320 I've turned those into the city manager's office, 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:13.520 and the next would go to city council. 00:51:13.520 --> 00:51:16.080 So we plan on going back to city council 00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:21.080 after the first of the year to present the applications 00:51:21.080 --> 00:51:23.120 and walk through that process. 00:51:23.120 --> 00:51:26.520 City council have to create a ad hoc committee. 00:51:26.520 --> 00:51:30.440 There would be a member or two from park board 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.600 because that's the most impacted department. 00:51:32.600 --> 00:51:36.040 And then council would form that subcommittee, 00:51:36.040 --> 00:51:37.840 they would go through the applications 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.360 and then provide recommendations 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.560 back to the park board and city council. 00:51:43.560 --> 00:51:46.360 So that's the process. 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.960 It's the first time we're gonna go through it as a group. 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:53.200 So there may be some learning opportunities during this, 00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:56.080 but we're gonna wait until the entire city council 00:51:56.080 --> 00:51:57.440 was seated. 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:02.160 So we kind of took that first step with the formal council 00:52:02.160 --> 00:52:05.040 that would be in place for the next two years. 00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:07.640 But applications that were submitted from the community 00:52:07.640 --> 00:52:10.120 was for the Carnegie Ridge property, 00:52:10.120 --> 00:52:12.880 and that was provided by the developers. 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.160 They wanted to name it Patrick Park after their father, 00:52:16.160 --> 00:52:19.120 who was a local teacher. 00:52:19.120 --> 00:52:21.440 Baseball fields one and two at Evers Park 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.640 were submitted by Denton Baseball Association. 00:52:24.640 --> 00:52:27.720 And those were two names after, 00:52:27.720 --> 00:52:28.880 and I can make this a little larger 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.040 so it might be easier for you guys to see. 00:52:31.040 --> 00:52:35.960 And that was Austin Jackson and Javi Guerra, 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.480 I think is the pronunciation. 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:41.800 They were both former Denton ballplayers. 00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:46.000 They played through the program and they both played in MLB. 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.160 Guerra was actually on the Washington nationals 00:52:50.160 --> 00:52:52.360 two years ago when they won the world series. 00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.160 So they asked to name the fields after those players. 00:52:56.160 --> 00:52:59.280 And then Industrial Street Park used to be 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:04.240 Wolf's Hardware Store, Grocery, I'm sorry, Grocery. 00:53:04.240 --> 00:53:07.440 And actually was submitted by one of our employees 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.280 who's a family related to that family, so that property. 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.160 So that was a real interesting kind of tie back 00:53:15.160 --> 00:53:19.000 to what that property was used at one point in time. 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:21.640 And then Razor Ranch property was submitted 00:53:21.640 --> 00:53:26.000 by the developers to name that park Razor Ranch Park. 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:28.200 So those are the five applications 00:53:28.200 --> 00:53:29.880 that came from the community. 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.000 And then the ones that we submitted, 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:37.600 the Mills property is planned to be a city park. 00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:41.680 And that's typically a park that's 50 acres or more. 00:53:41.680 --> 00:53:45.360 And we were trying to come up with a theme 00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.320 for all our city parks to be named after something, 00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:54.320 Direction Lake Park and North Lakes Park, South Lakes Park. 00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.360 And this one would be East Lake Park 00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.320 to obviously give you the geographic location 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.880 and kind of set that brand of, 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:03.960 oh, that's a lake park, 00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:07.080 that must mean it's something of significance. 00:54:07.080 --> 00:54:11.480 There's roughly a four acre pond there, a body of water. 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:16.480 So that was the rationale for East Lake Park. 00:54:16.560 --> 00:54:19.400 And then all of the trails, well, 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.640 we haven't formally named all of our trails. 00:54:21.640 --> 00:54:22.800 We thought it would be good 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:24.480 while we're working through the master plan 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.480 and we're calling these trails certain things 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:29.280 to go ahead and get them formally adopted 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:34.280 and then work into some of those trails as they're built. 00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.120 Bonnie Bray is already under construction. 00:54:37.120 --> 00:54:40.160 Cooper Creek already has some trails completed. 00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:42.240 Hickory Creek is under construction right now. 00:54:42.240 --> 00:54:46.640 Mayhill is, for the most part, completed. 00:54:46.640 --> 00:54:49.760 Mingo is in portions of that are in the planning stage. 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:51.280 Same with Pecan Creek. 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.680 University Trail is gonna have a section east of Mayhill. 00:54:54.680 --> 00:54:58.000 That's gonna be worked on by Textot over to the bridge. 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.120 And then Vintage Trail is under construction 00:55:00.120 --> 00:55:02.520 and Wildflower Trail already exists. 00:55:02.520 --> 00:55:05.320 We weren't sure if that was formally adopted or not. 00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:06.760 That's in North Lakes Park. 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.560 So we wanted to just go ahead and formally request that. 00:55:10.560 --> 00:55:12.560 This doesn't mean there's not more trails 00:55:12.560 --> 00:55:14.200 that we could be adding to that, 00:55:14.200 --> 00:55:16.360 but we wanted to try to get a critical mass 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.160 of applications together at one time 00:55:18.160 --> 00:55:20.560 since an ad hoc committee has to be created 00:55:20.560 --> 00:55:23.440 that we weren't going back piecemeal 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:24.680 a little bit at a time 00:55:24.680 --> 00:55:28.280 and that process is gonna be cumbersome 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.200 to try to do a number at one time. 00:55:30.200 --> 00:55:32.440 So that was the thought process 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:34.640 in regards to taking these all to the committee 00:55:34.640 --> 00:55:37.120 and to you and the city council, 00:55:37.120 --> 00:55:40.680 but wanted to get your feedback on any of these 00:55:40.680 --> 00:55:42.440 if you have any questions or concern. 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:44.680 We still have to move forward with city council 00:55:44.680 --> 00:55:47.720 and we'll definitely include any reluctancy 00:55:47.720 --> 00:55:50.080 or concerns you have with any of these names 00:55:50.080 --> 00:55:52.200 and the rationale based on direction 00:55:52.200 --> 00:55:55.480 from the board as a whole and kind of go from there. 00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:05.280 - Gary, I have a question. 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.160 Can you stop sharing so we can see each other? 00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:08.000 - Oh yes, yep. 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.880 - The Industrial Street Park, 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.800 I would love to hear additional information 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:20.960 behind the family, the Wolfs. 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.400 I would just love to hear the history. 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:25.680 - Okay. 00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:28.000 - We used to receive this information, 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:32.520 but I know since COVID, everything has kind of changed, 00:56:32.520 --> 00:56:35.920 but we really, I think the board really needs 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.880 to continue to get information. 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.880 And I understand why you had to put it on hold 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.200 and put them all together. 00:56:45.200 --> 00:56:47.040 I do understand that. 00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:49.720 But I do would like additional information 00:56:49.720 --> 00:56:54.720 about the Industrial Street Park name being changed to, 00:56:54.720 --> 00:56:56.720 what was it, Wolfs? 00:56:56.720 --> 00:57:01.560 - Wolfs, on the attachment that's in your packet 00:57:01.560 --> 00:57:06.560 on page 10, there's a summary of the history of Wolfs. 00:57:06.560 --> 00:57:12.520 It was a food store from 1947 to 1997. 00:57:12.520 --> 00:57:16.360 The store was located at 109 Industrial, 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.960 Wolf's food store was named after Robert Wolf 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.760 who opened the store in 1947. 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.520 The store then changed ownerships 00:57:23.520 --> 00:57:26.240 from Robert to Walter Wolf in 1948, 00:57:26.240 --> 00:57:28.960 and then to Paul Wolf in 1951. 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.080 In 1959, Grady Gandy bought the store 00:57:32.080 --> 00:57:34.240 from his father-in-law, Paul Wolf. 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:37.080 Grady kept the store name of Wolf's food store 00:57:37.080 --> 00:57:38.840 to avoid any confusion. 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.040 Many customers continued to call Mr. Gandy, Mr. Wolf 00:57:42.040 --> 00:57:43.520 as he bought the store. 00:57:43.520 --> 00:57:46.440 Many in the community still remember Mr. Gandy's smile, 00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.280 laugh and witty humor. 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:49.920 He was known as a bit of a jokester 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:51.520 and loved to make people laugh. 00:57:51.520 --> 00:57:53.280 He was a huge part of the Denton community 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.120 and helped many people simply giving advice, 00:57:56.120 --> 00:57:58.680 food or a part-time job. 00:57:58.680 --> 00:58:01.040 Grady Gandy enjoyed being a part of the community 00:58:01.040 --> 00:58:02.600 and never asked for anything in return. 00:58:02.600 --> 00:58:05.240 He was extremely genuine and loved his neighbors. 00:58:05.240 --> 00:58:07.200 Wolf's food store was featured many times 00:58:07.200 --> 00:58:10.040 in Denton Record Chronicle highlighting the longtime success 00:58:10.040 --> 00:58:12.880 of the small grocery store in a time 00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.360 where big box stores were moving into the city. 00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:18.160 Whether the store's success was due 00:58:18.160 --> 00:58:20.920 to Mr. Gandy's unstoppable work ethic 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.440 or his contribution to so many lives in Denton 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.360 and surrounding towns, he had an infectious energy 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:27.760 to anyone that knew him. 00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.480 The store centered on the Wolfs and Gandy's family, 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.760 but Wolf's customers were considered 00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.920 Mr. Gandy's extended family. 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.160 This was shown in his unwillingness 00:58:37.160 --> 00:58:38.680 to let people give up themselves, 00:58:38.680 --> 00:58:43.400 to let people give up, not to give up on themselves. 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.280 He was a model of what hard work and love is 00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:47.880 for his community could produce. 00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.720 Mr. Gandy was never a rich man in terms of financial wealth, 00:58:51.720 --> 00:58:54.280 but was rich in family and friends. 00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.360 The community felt the absence 00:58:56.360 --> 00:59:00.240 when he unexpectedly passed away in February, 1997. 00:59:00.240 --> 00:59:01.400 Although he is gone, 00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:04.400 his love and laugh will never be forgotten. 00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.400 So that's in your packet on page 10 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.680 as part of the application that was submitted. 00:59:11.680 --> 00:59:17.160 - Yes, I see that now. 00:59:17.160 --> 00:59:21.480 - And then one other thing, 00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:24.320 when John and I met with the DWI group, 00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:27.840 they mentioned Wolf's Food Store 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.600 whenever we spoke to them about Industrial Park. 00:59:30.600 --> 00:59:35.320 And they talked about meeting there 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:38.680 and getting things to eat and having lunch together. 00:59:38.680 --> 00:59:41.360 So it was good to hear about that place, 00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:44.960 especially knowing we were coming before you 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.560 to maybe future change the name. 00:59:55.320 --> 01:00:00.320 - So, any feedback in regards to any of the proposed names? 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:14.520 - Are we going to receive information from the public? 01:00:14.520 --> 01:00:22.040 - So, obviously this is the first time we've done this. 01:00:23.040 --> 01:00:26.200 So we'll be putting an ad hoc committee together. 01:00:26.200 --> 01:00:27.720 They'll review the applications. 01:00:27.720 --> 01:00:30.560 We definitely could have a public meeting. 01:00:30.560 --> 01:00:32.960 It probably is a good recommendation to have that 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.760 during that review process. 01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:35.960 So people could chime in 01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:39.040 and people could actually come and present their pitch 01:00:39.040 --> 01:00:41.040 if they wanted to in regards to the name 01:00:41.040 --> 01:00:44.040 and kind of go from there 01:00:44.040 --> 01:00:46.080 and use that as part of the consideration. 01:00:46.080 --> 01:00:48.240 So we definitely could do that. 01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:50.720 - I think that's a really good idea. 01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:52.400 Yeah, I like that idea. 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:53.600 - Thank you. 01:00:53.600 --> 01:00:55.800 - We will incorporate that. 01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.880 - One of the ideas that we had years ago 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.480 was that the small pocket, 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:03.360 I'm not talking about the bigger parks. 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:07.280 I think the process here is a good one in general, 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:11.360 but like for pocket parks that are where local neighborhoods 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:12.320 could be a playground, 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:17.320 it's mostly going to be utilized by the local neighborhood. 01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:19.080 One of the things that worked really, really well 01:01:19.080 --> 01:01:21.640 was to go out and get, go around the neighborhoods 01:01:21.640 --> 01:01:26.640 and get nominations for the names for naming the park. 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:27.640 You get the whole, 01:01:27.640 --> 01:01:29.400 that way you get the whole community involved 01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.680 in actually being part of the process 01:01:32.680 --> 01:01:35.960 by just going out and asking door to door. 01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:40.320 And anyway, so I just, this is a suggestion. 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:44.680 And then once the nomination, you get the top one, 01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:46.840 vote on which ones people like the best 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:48.960 and the second round. 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.320 And then eventually they come up with a name 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:53.720 for the park that they named 01:01:53.720 --> 01:01:56.120 and then it's part of their park. 01:01:56.120 --> 01:01:58.160 But that is a bad news. 01:01:58.160 --> 01:01:59.560 We actually have people who, 01:01:59.560 --> 01:02:02.520 one of the daycare brought their kids over 01:02:02.520 --> 01:02:04.200 and the people try to chase them out 01:02:04.200 --> 01:02:06.640 because they said that this is our park. 01:02:06.640 --> 01:02:09.880 You know, we got a little too possessive, but that's okay. 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:11.240 - That's a good point. 01:02:11.240 --> 01:02:13.640 The one thing that we are not sure of 01:02:13.640 --> 01:02:18.080 is what parks have been officially named or not. 01:02:18.080 --> 01:02:21.240 So we have a staff member 01:02:21.240 --> 01:02:24.160 that's gonna be working with the library 01:02:24.160 --> 01:02:28.680 and a city volunteer that Heather had worked with 01:02:28.680 --> 01:02:31.720 during this process of the policy development, 01:02:31.720 --> 01:02:32.840 that they were reaching out to her 01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:34.360 to see if she would be interested in helping 01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:36.480 and going back and doing research 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.200 on the parcels that we already have. 01:02:39.200 --> 01:02:42.080 Our gut feeling is that some of these properties 01:02:42.080 --> 01:02:45.520 were named by staff. 01:02:45.520 --> 01:02:48.400 Just as they were kind of going, hey, this is on this road 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.600 and we'll just call it that kind of as a placeholder. 01:02:51.600 --> 01:02:53.280 And we've had a little bit of a discussion 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:54.720 about this in the past. 01:02:54.720 --> 01:02:59.120 And all of a sudden it just became Sherman Open Space 01:02:59.120 --> 01:02:59.960 where there was no, 01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:03.200 'cause it just was on Sherman Drive or road. 01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:06.840 And so those names just stuck. 01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:08.640 So we need to go back and see 01:03:08.640 --> 01:03:11.240 if some of those have been formally adopted 01:03:11.240 --> 01:03:14.480 so we could say these X number of parks 01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:18.280 are available in the future for the community to consider. 01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:21.960 The ones that were suggested are basically new parcels 01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.200 or new things that are coming together. 01:03:24.200 --> 01:03:29.520 So I can't give you or we can't give you a clear list 01:03:29.520 --> 01:03:32.000 of what is available to the community 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.720 outside something that might be brand new. 01:03:34.720 --> 01:03:36.520 So we're going back to try to find that. 01:03:36.520 --> 01:03:39.360 So once we get to that point, we definitely could say, 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:42.880 here's a list of all the parks that are available. 01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:46.040 And if you have somebody that lives in that neighborhood 01:03:46.040 --> 01:03:48.880 or we're just an important person in Denton, 01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:52.280 then you could suggest naming for that parcel. 01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:53.880 But so we need to kind of go back 01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:57.440 and do a little bit of research to see what is available. 01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.520 And that's something that we're trying to get started up 01:04:00.520 --> 01:04:01.440 with the library. 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:09.200 - Additional concerns, questions, comments? 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:16.880 Okay, if you can add our concerns, Gary, 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.120 to your presentation, we'd greatly appreciate it. 01:04:19.120 --> 01:04:19.960 - Okay. 01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:25.680 - Next item, receive a report, hold a discussion 01:04:25.680 --> 01:04:29.040 and give staff input regarding the potential leasing 01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:32.600 of a 3.5 acres property at 308 Bradley Street, 01:04:32.600 --> 01:04:34.600 the former site of Veterans Village 01:04:34.600 --> 01:04:36.400 and Bradley Street Apartments. 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:42.120 - Okay, I'm going to bring up the PowerPoint 01:04:42.120 --> 01:04:45.800 that we presented originally in June of 2019 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.400 and use that as a reference point. 01:04:49.400 --> 01:05:03.800 I'm not sure if everybody on the committee was here 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:07.560 at this time, but I'll just go through real quick. 01:05:07.560 --> 01:05:12.440 So this parcel is on Bradley, Bradley Street, 01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:16.960 just off of Oak, used to be a Veterans Village. 01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.320 And most recently it was an apartment complex. 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.800 In relation to some other parks, 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.120 you can see where McKenna Park is, 01:05:24.120 --> 01:05:27.720 it's pretty much a large block or two or three blocks away. 01:05:27.720 --> 01:05:30.520 And then Razor Ranch property is just a little bit 01:05:30.520 --> 01:05:31.640 to the Northwest. 01:05:31.640 --> 01:05:35.840 Some general facts, it's 3.5 acres. 01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:37.760 It is the former site of Veterans Village 01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:39.640 and I'll show you what that looked like. 01:05:39.640 --> 01:05:42.800 It was used for temporary housing during World War II, 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.560 after World War II when the veterans came back for school 01:05:45.560 --> 01:05:47.040 and there were 50 hutments, 01:05:47.040 --> 01:05:50.320 there were small homes that were on that property. 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:53.480 This is what that property looked like at the time. 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:55.680 You could see these little buildings here, 01:05:55.680 --> 01:05:57.040 that's where the veterans, 01:05:57.040 --> 01:06:00.120 the students that came back where they lived. 01:06:00.120 --> 01:06:02.120 Campus is over in this area. 01:06:05.720 --> 01:06:07.440 This is what it looks like right now. 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:10.000 It was being used as a lay down area 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.080 for some construction activity off of Bradley. 01:06:13.080 --> 01:06:16.640 There's a chain link fence and just some open space 01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:19.080 that people could go out there and utilize. 01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:21.880 We'd come up with some draft kind of concept plans 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:24.960 with the loop trail, taking the existing parking 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.040 and putting some trees in there. 01:06:27.040 --> 01:06:28.640 Very minimal improvements, 01:06:28.640 --> 01:06:30.800 maybe a pavilion at one point in time. 01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:34.440 We have to make sure it's ADA compliant. 01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:37.040 So we integrated some Monarch Way Stations, 01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:38.600 pollinator gardens, 01:06:38.600 --> 01:06:41.440 working with volunteers and the Historical Association 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.560 to help even with trail development 01:06:43.560 --> 01:06:45.320 and trying to get some veterans out there 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.040 to help build the trails. 01:06:47.040 --> 01:06:51.400 Original concept was about $80,000 or so 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:54.120 to do some of those improvements. 01:06:54.120 --> 01:06:55.960 This was, I guess, probably two years ago 01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.240 at this point in time. 01:06:57.240 --> 01:06:59.920 It did not include the lighting, irrigation, 01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:01.640 those types of things. 01:07:01.640 --> 01:07:03.920 It was just really the core basics. 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:09.200 A pavilion of this nature, a crushed granite trail, 01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:12.200 all pending on volunteer assistance, 01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:14.000 and then maybe an interpretive panel 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.720 about the history of that space with the Hutmans 01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:19.320 and World War II veterans coming back. 01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:22.280 At the time, we were talking to UNT 01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:24.840 and they were trying to figure out 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.600 what their long-term plan is for that property, 01:07:27.600 --> 01:07:30.440 and they're still working on that actually. 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.880 And after the first of the year, 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.120 Public Affairs is gonna be working with them 01:07:35.120 --> 01:07:37.720 to figure out how they can get community input 01:07:37.720 --> 01:07:41.400 on that process before they made any decisions. 01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:44.600 So I think I have a meeting later this week 01:07:44.600 --> 01:07:47.160 to meet with Public Affairs on next steps 01:07:47.160 --> 01:07:48.680 in regards to that. 01:07:48.680 --> 01:07:51.000 So that's gonna happen after the holidays. 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.240 So until then, there really isn't gonna be any movement 01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:55.960 until they go through that process. 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.080 We did take the proposal to City Council, 01:07:59.080 --> 01:08:01.920 not this fiscal year, but the fiscal year prior, 01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.520 and that wasn't funded. 01:08:04.520 --> 01:08:07.320 So the project was kind of just put on hold 01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.320 since there was no funding allocated. 01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:10.920 And then this year, COVID hit 01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:12.760 and we didn't submit anything. 01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:15.600 I think we had one supplemental that we submitted 01:08:15.600 --> 01:08:17.920 since the budget was a concern. 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:20.440 So it's been on hold since that point of time, 01:08:20.440 --> 01:08:22.720 but Park Board asked for an update. 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:26.880 So that's where the project is as of right now, 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:28.240 waiting for final decision 01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:30.280 on the long-term use of that property. 01:08:30.280 --> 01:08:34.200 Originally, we had talked about a 10-year lease with UNT, 01:08:34.200 --> 01:08:38.480 and that's where that property stands to date. 01:08:38.480 --> 01:08:49.080 - Thank you, Gary. 01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:50.480 Questions, concerns? 01:08:50.480 --> 01:08:55.160 All right. 01:08:55.160 --> 01:08:59.040 The next agenda item and the last one 01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:02.320 is to receive a report, hold a discussion, 01:09:02.320 --> 01:09:04.960 and give staff input regarding the placement 01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:07.440 and status of public art projects. 01:09:07.440 --> 01:09:14.240 - Okay, let me bring up a presentation for you. 01:09:14.240 --> 01:09:16.040 Just to kind of introduce this, 01:09:16.040 --> 01:09:20.120 public art was in parks and recreation, 01:09:20.120 --> 01:09:22.800 and it was moved over to economic development 01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:27.800 probably in early 2018, late 2017, that timeframe. 01:09:29.200 --> 01:09:32.400 And it was an economic development up until this summer, 01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:34.880 actually late fall, early fall. 01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:37.760 So it was moved back to parks and recreation. 01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:41.600 It's part of an overall plan that has a landscape architect 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.400 and a park planning manager 01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:46.120 as new positions within the park system. 01:09:46.120 --> 01:09:49.400 Those staff members report to Drew 01:09:49.400 --> 01:09:52.720 as part of our parks planning and operations team. 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:56.280 We're trying to get those positions hired as we speak. 01:09:56.280 --> 01:09:59.800 But in the meantime, John Whitmore, who's our program area 01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.800 manager oversees our aquatics division, 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:07.240 hired himself to help us, or maybe was voluntold himself, 01:10:07.240 --> 01:10:10.760 to help us with the public art projects. 01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.320 We had a number that were on the books 01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:15.920 but needed to get started. 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:17.840 And he's done a great job 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:20.160 in kind of pushing those efforts forward. 01:10:20.160 --> 01:10:22.600 So we can go through and give you an update 01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:24.000 kind of where things are. 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.000 The original request was what's the process 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.280 to get art into the parks? 01:10:29.280 --> 01:10:32.640 When we started the tennis center 01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:34.880 and the dog park in Vela, 01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:37.640 we went to the public art committee 01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:38.880 and asked them if they'd be interested 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.640 in putting art in those facilities. 01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:45.280 A number of park systems will have X number of dollars 01:10:45.280 --> 01:10:48.280 dedicated towards art, maybe on a construction project, 01:10:48.280 --> 01:10:50.640 which the city has in the past. 01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.480 Or they just find a way to put some piece of art out there 01:10:53.480 --> 01:10:56.320 just to kind of add to the culture of the facilities. 01:10:56.320 --> 01:10:59.240 So that was kind of some of our thoughts. 01:10:59.240 --> 01:11:00.560 And we have a couple of ideas, 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:02.040 but we'll go through the presentation 01:11:02.040 --> 01:11:04.880 and then just open it up for discussion if that's okay. 01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:12.920 John, would you like to lead this 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.480 or would you like me to, or Drew or I? 01:11:15.480 --> 01:11:20.720 - I think we can all contribute, I'm sure. 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:22.040 - Okay, okay. 01:11:24.480 --> 01:11:28.160 - So economic development put together a map 01:11:28.160 --> 01:11:29.760 of where all the art is. 01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:32.480 And this was just a snapshot of that 01:11:32.480 --> 01:11:34.480 to give you a sense of where it is. 01:11:34.480 --> 01:11:37.080 There's obviously a large cluster of art 01:11:37.080 --> 01:11:39.480 in the downtown area, 01:11:39.480 --> 01:11:41.520 but we do have it in various areas 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.080 within the park system as well. 01:11:43.080 --> 01:11:47.080 South Lakes, North Lakes, being two of them the airport. 01:11:47.080 --> 01:11:49.920 And then we have some that are just a little off the map here 01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:51.760 at the Natatorium as well. 01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:55.360 So ultimately the thought is to start spreading those out 01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:56.280 throughout the city. 01:11:56.280 --> 01:11:59.080 So it's not heavy in one area, 01:11:59.080 --> 01:12:01.920 but obviously with downtown being what it is, 01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:04.640 there's gonna be a cluster of art there. 01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:07.920 So definitely trying to get art in new locations 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:10.520 is definitely a part of the mindset. 01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:15.520 The blue are sculptures and the red are murals of sorts. 01:12:20.080 --> 01:12:23.200 North Lake Dog Park, this is a project 01:12:23.200 --> 01:12:26.240 that John has been working on. 01:12:26.240 --> 01:12:30.800 We built this pad at the middle of the three circles 01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:33.760 of the dog park to put a piece of art on there. 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.360 We were in the middle of construction, 01:12:36.360 --> 01:12:38.000 but we didn't have the piece of art yet. 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.400 So that is still being worked through the subcommittee 01:12:41.400 --> 01:12:44.280 of the Public Art Committee to get selected. 01:12:44.280 --> 01:12:47.840 And John is working on that RFP right now as we speak. 01:12:51.080 --> 01:12:56.080 The Vela Athletic Complex, we had put a pad in this pad 01:12:56.080 --> 01:13:00.680 right here, this little cube during the construction process 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:03.680 with the anticipation of putting a piece of art out there. 01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:09.680 And we met with the Vela family and with Dr. Vela 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:15.280 being a biologist at UNT and loved community 01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:18.400 and loved soccer, they asked if they could have that theme 01:13:18.400 --> 01:13:20.560 kind of tied into the piece of art. 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:25.560 So we put together an RFP and sent it out and it came back 01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.760 based off of the theme that you're asking for 01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:32.520 and the size, basically the scope that it wasn't feasible 01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.560 with the budget we had. 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:36.360 So we did have some extra money left over 01:13:36.360 --> 01:13:39.080 from the Vela Athletic Complex of $65,000. 01:13:39.080 --> 01:13:43.680 Got $1,000 from the Park Foundation 01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:45.680 to go towards that project. 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:49.000 And John put together the RFP again, resubmitted 01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:52.480 to the selected artists that the pack had selected. 01:13:52.480 --> 01:13:54.200 And this is what he came back. 01:13:54.200 --> 01:13:58.560 And it's basically a trophy with the molecules 01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:02.480 as the brass, the balls in the center. 01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:05.280 There's a star in the middle that you can't see for Texas. 01:14:05.280 --> 01:14:09.880 And then the frame of the molecules 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.600 is actually the panels of a soccer ball. 01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:14.440 So they were able to tie that all together. 01:14:14.440 --> 01:14:16.880 It's polished stainless steel 01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:20.360 and then some brushed stainless steel as well. 01:14:20.360 --> 01:14:23.360 John, is there anything you'd like to add to that? 01:14:23.360 --> 01:14:25.680 - That's just a very impressive interpretation 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:29.600 of what the public art subcommittee wanted to have happen. 01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.000 So it's really very nice. 01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.000 I think some of the later pictures that you've got 01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:35.800 helped to show it in perspective, 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.960 looking through the entrance area there. 01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:42.600 - So when you walk through the arch at the building, 01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:45.960 this is what you would see as you approach the playground. 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:52.040 And it'll be reflective with different colors 01:14:52.040 --> 01:14:54.280 and the sun coming off the balls. 01:14:54.280 --> 01:14:56.480 They designed it so kids couldn't climb on it. 01:14:56.480 --> 01:15:00.200 We have talked about maybe putting some flower pots 01:15:00.200 --> 01:15:02.240 or something around the base of it, 01:15:02.240 --> 01:15:03.680 just to soften it up a little bit 01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:05.680 'cause there's a lot of concrete in that space 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:07.560 along with the building. 01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.320 So that was the proposal. 01:15:10.320 --> 01:15:13.280 The public art committee was excited about it 01:15:13.280 --> 01:15:16.400 and we're trying to get it on the agenda for city council. 01:15:16.400 --> 01:15:25.240 The tennis center, we have bond or hot funds, 01:15:25.240 --> 01:15:30.000 hotel occupancy tax allocated for this project. 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:33.560 We haven't done anything with this one to date 01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:35.560 just because we're trying to get the tennis center out 01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:38.120 and it wasn't a huge priority to get the tennis center 01:15:38.120 --> 01:15:41.040 out to bid and we're focused on the other priorities 01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:42.520 they had for sculptures. 01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:44.680 So this one was purposely put on hold 01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:46.920 and we're gonna start getting this one going. 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:48.920 Location would probably make most sense 01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:53.920 if it was near the pro shop where the largest amount 01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:58.920 of gathering will be by people, but that's still to come. 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.240 And we have $35,000 for that. 01:16:01.240 --> 01:16:02.560 That may not be enough either, 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:05.280 but we'll have to figure out and work on that budget. 01:16:06.200 --> 01:16:09.440 The fire station had some bond funding money 01:16:09.440 --> 01:16:13.080 for a piece of art and there was some discussion about it 01:16:13.080 --> 01:16:17.960 being a fence where the fence itself was art. 01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:20.640 After deliberation between the public art committee 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.000 decided that a fence is not art. 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.440 So they're putting up their fence as part of the construction 01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:27.160 of fire station number three 01:16:27.160 --> 01:16:30.720 and that the public art committee will go out for RFPs 01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:33.840 for a piece of art that will be placed in landscaping 01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:35.960 adjacent to the fire station. 01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:39.160 (mouse clicking) 01:16:39.160 --> 01:16:42.440 Foundations of our history is a mural 01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:47.440 that was actually painted on Bonnie Bray a couple of years ago 01:16:47.440 --> 01:16:54.160 and that building was sold and is gonna be torn down. 01:16:54.160 --> 01:16:57.440 So there was discussion on trying to save that mural 01:16:57.440 --> 01:17:01.000 with council, specifically council member. 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:05.040 And we looked at it and the cost was gonna be 01:17:05.040 --> 01:17:07.400 probably a little bit less than half 01:17:07.400 --> 01:17:09.360 of what this total budget is. 01:17:09.360 --> 01:17:12.920 And the mural was painted on vinyl siding 01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:15.200 and the vinyl siding was old and it wasn't great in shape. 01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:17.920 So we were concerned that just removing it from the building 01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:20.920 was gonna start to fall apart and then putting it in storage 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.080 and to figure out what we're gonna do with it long-term. 01:17:23.080 --> 01:17:24.640 So we actually came up with the idea 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.600 and this was a project that was phase two 01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:31.120 of keep them beautiful plan after they did the mural 01:17:31.120 --> 01:17:36.120 on Dallas drive to actually paint this underpass area. 01:17:36.120 --> 01:17:38.160 And if you see it today, 01:17:38.160 --> 01:17:41.400 it's been vandalized a number of times. 01:17:41.400 --> 01:17:44.800 The mural that was painted on Dallas hasn't been. 01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:46.920 We also put a clear coat over that mural too. 01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:48.240 So if someone does something to it, 01:17:48.240 --> 01:17:52.920 we can go back and wash it off and protects that artwork. 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:57.920 So we have all four kind of the panels on the bridge 01:17:59.280 --> 01:18:04.280 are gonna be painted with foundations of our history, 01:18:04.280 --> 01:18:07.360 the ladies that were instrumental in the community, 01:18:07.360 --> 01:18:08.760 specifically in Southeast Denton. 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:11.200 And then the areas directly under the bridge 01:18:11.200 --> 01:18:13.000 are gonna be this kind of rust color 01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:15.880 because we still get some rust and water 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:17.280 that comes off the bridge 01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:19.000 and we didn't want that going over the mural. 01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:22.160 So that's designed to kind of blend into that. 01:18:22.160 --> 01:18:24.040 So Autumn, if you're still with us, 01:18:24.040 --> 01:18:26.080 did you have any comments to add to that? 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.120 - Yes, I'm still here. 01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:32.680 - Okay, I couldn't see my screen. 01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:35.520 I'll have all my, all the video. 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:37.440 - No, you did. 01:18:37.440 --> 01:18:38.880 You provided a good summary of the projects, 01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:40.040 but like Gary mentioned, 01:18:40.040 --> 01:18:44.080 it is part of a larger project of beautifying that 01:18:44.080 --> 01:18:48.520 one of the main entrances into Denton 01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:50.540 into the downtown area. 01:18:50.540 --> 01:18:54.600 So we're slated to start this project next week 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:55.480 and get painting. 01:18:55.480 --> 01:18:58.760 So keep an eye out as you drive past. 01:19:00.200 --> 01:19:03.240 - So that's that one. 01:19:03.240 --> 01:19:06.640 The MLK Junior Recreation Center is a project 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:09.160 that's been going on for a few years. 01:19:09.160 --> 01:19:12.800 And the Public Art Committee selected an artist 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:16.080 and she's known for creating the integration 01:19:16.080 --> 01:19:20.040 of places to sit and relax and congregate 01:19:20.040 --> 01:19:23.480 with people as well and figures of people. 01:19:23.480 --> 01:19:26.120 So she came up with this design 01:19:26.120 --> 01:19:28.120 that the Public Art Committee 01:19:28.120 --> 01:19:30.360 and City Council approved. 01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:33.120 It's under construction as we speak. 01:19:33.120 --> 01:19:37.200 It's slated to be installed in September of next year. 01:19:37.200 --> 01:19:40.000 We went over with staff and the artist 01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:41.960 and looked at locations and presented them 01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:45.540 to both council and the Public Art Committee. 01:19:45.540 --> 01:19:48.500 And what we're gonna do is re-landscape this area 01:19:48.500 --> 01:19:50.480 and move this flagpole over closer 01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:53.200 to the entry sign to the rec center 01:19:53.200 --> 01:19:56.160 and make this an area so kids can congregate 01:19:56.160 --> 01:19:58.280 or families while they're waiting. 01:19:58.280 --> 01:20:00.680 Specifically, we're thinking as good place for kids 01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.000 when they're waiting for their parents to pick them up. 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.080 This is not, you don't have to cross the road. 01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:07.160 It's right by the front door. 01:20:07.160 --> 01:20:10.300 Staff can kind of still pay attention to them. 01:20:10.300 --> 01:20:12.080 And that'll go in this area. 01:20:12.080 --> 01:20:14.680 And this is something that Drew's guys 01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:15.940 are gonna be working on. 01:20:15.940 --> 01:20:17.920 And then additionally, we looked at a way 01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.760 to really beautify and soften up the building. 01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:25.280 If you go out there, it's just a lot of grass and brick. 01:20:25.280 --> 01:20:27.600 There's no really landscaping outside of this 01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.420 to really soften it up on both sides. 01:20:30.420 --> 01:20:33.240 So we're gonna try to address up the area 01:20:33.240 --> 01:20:35.560 in front of the gym in the area 01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:38.200 on the far left side of the building 01:20:38.200 --> 01:20:40.640 with some additional landscaping 01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:44.380 to really tie those three areas together. 01:20:44.380 --> 01:20:45.980 We don't necessarily have funding for that, 01:20:45.980 --> 01:20:47.120 but we're gonna try to do that 01:20:47.120 --> 01:20:49.560 after this piece of art is installed 01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:53.760 with some Texas native, you know, drought tolerant plants, 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:56.040 maybe some river rock type thing, 01:20:56.040 --> 01:20:58.580 give it a little bit of a flare to it. 01:20:58.580 --> 01:21:01.600 - I have one thing to add there, Gary, 01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.360 that the Madeline Wiener is the artist 01:21:04.360 --> 01:21:07.800 and that the sculptures are called bench people 01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:09.080 and they're made to sit on. 01:21:09.080 --> 01:21:10.680 So they're actually wide enough 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.560 that two people could probably sit side by side 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:16.000 in the laps on these particular ones. 01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:17.640 So when he said that it's a gathering place, 01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:20.680 it's literally benches that people can sit on. 01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:22.360 And I enjoy that area. 01:21:24.040 --> 01:21:27.520 And the next one I'll let Drew or John talk about. 01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:29.000 He spent a lot of time on this one here. 01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:31.700 This is Denton Women's Interracial Fellowship. 01:21:31.700 --> 01:21:36.560 - You'll hear this also called the DWIF monument. 01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:39.280 And it's all about the group of women 01:21:39.280 --> 01:21:42.680 through the early '70s that they had formed 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:43.840 to do a lot of different things. 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.800 One of them was to have actual roads paved, 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.360 but another was to be able to help the schools 01:21:49.360 --> 01:21:51.480 integrate much more effectively. 01:21:51.480 --> 01:21:55.240 And so it was a group of both black and white women 01:21:55.240 --> 01:21:58.640 that formed together for this particular purpose 01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.760 and they did a fantastic job. 01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.960 And so to be able to honor this particular group, 01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:08.040 we put out a scope of work 01:22:08.040 --> 01:22:10.720 and an RFP for people to come in 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:13.680 or the artists to come in and do the bid. 01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:16.400 This one here stood out among all of them. 01:22:16.400 --> 01:22:19.340 The others were quite traditional. 01:22:19.340 --> 01:22:21.640 And this one was very colorful 01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:24.640 and it's using a type of glass, 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.440 very heavy duty type of glass, not easily broken. 01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:30.260 And each has a picture of the different people 01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:34.120 that are involved in the DWIF. 01:22:34.120 --> 01:22:36.640 And it's very interactive. 01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:41.640 It'll use a program on your, an app on your phone. 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:45.880 And when you just take a picture of it or have it there, 01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.560 it automatically calls up the information 01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.200 about that person, about what they did, 01:22:51.200 --> 01:22:54.740 their background and various things about their lives 01:22:54.740 --> 01:22:56.700 that will be able to tell the story. 01:22:56.700 --> 01:22:59.840 So this is a destination type of piece. 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:01.280 This is where they'll have, 01:23:01.280 --> 01:23:03.880 we are pretty sure that school buses 01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.320 and other groups from the schools 01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:08.480 will come out and take a look at it. 01:23:08.480 --> 01:23:12.520 This one is currently proposed to be in industrial park. 01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:14.100 They had a couple of locations, 01:23:14.100 --> 01:23:16.760 but after meeting with all the ladies 01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:18.920 that had about a dozen people, 01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:20.680 either online or in person, 01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:23.600 they unanimously wanted it in industrial park 01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:26.280 and not over in Fred Moore park. 01:23:26.280 --> 01:23:29.320 And so that's the, what we're proposing through. 01:23:29.320 --> 01:23:30.280 And there's some other things 01:23:30.280 --> 01:23:32.200 that I know Drew will be able to talk to you a bit more 01:23:32.200 --> 01:23:35.760 about doing other things in industrial park 01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:38.600 to make sure just like the MLK sculptures 01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.840 that will have something to help dress up the park a lot. 01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:45.400 There were other plans, I know that were available for it. 01:23:45.400 --> 01:23:50.040 Two quick items on that to just add to John's description. 01:23:50.040 --> 01:23:54.480 We did get a grant from the state for this project 01:23:54.480 --> 01:23:59.480 and it was tied to the entertainment district for downtown. 01:23:59.480 --> 01:24:03.160 So it has to be within that area, 01:24:03.160 --> 01:24:04.360 within the downtown area. 01:24:04.360 --> 01:24:07.960 So we're really limited to Quaker Town, Industrial Street, 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:12.960 Fred Moore, and I think that was it from a park space 01:24:14.240 --> 01:24:16.720 or it could have been on the sidewalk 01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:18.560 or in a parking lot type thing. 01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:19.720 But from a park space, 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:21.400 we're fairly limited in regards 01:24:21.400 --> 01:24:23.560 to where we could use that money. 01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:27.200 So those were kind of the options to start. 01:24:27.200 --> 01:24:30.980 So that's why it wasn't going in any other general areas. 01:24:30.980 --> 01:24:33.020 And they wanted in a location 01:24:33.020 --> 01:24:35.320 where it's gonna get a lot of traffic 01:24:35.320 --> 01:24:38.280 and industrial streets gets more foot traffic 01:24:38.280 --> 01:24:39.880 than Fred Moore does. 01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.600 And then other locations for art. 01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.080 This is Dallas and Teasley on the left 01:24:48.080 --> 01:24:49.920 and Eagle and Elm on the right. 01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:52.280 And Eagle and Elm has had a few iterations. 01:24:52.280 --> 01:24:54.480 So this one's gonna change a little bit. 01:24:54.480 --> 01:24:58.180 But the Dallas and Teasley one is pretty much what you see. 01:24:58.180 --> 01:25:00.160 We did have a piece of art planned in there. 01:25:00.160 --> 01:25:01.800 That's what that kind of little white, 01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:04.420 whitish gray circle is for. 01:25:04.420 --> 01:25:07.580 And then we're gonna place something in Eagle Drive, 01:25:07.580 --> 01:25:08.640 Eagle and Elm. 01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:13.160 So those two artwork have not been identified yet. 01:25:13.160 --> 01:25:17.960 And then Carroll Boulevard has a trail on it. 01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.080 It's part of our trail plan to expand. 01:25:21.080 --> 01:25:23.340 But we thought that would be a good location 01:25:23.340 --> 01:25:27.960 to put trail sculptures that could be leased 01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:31.120 or on loan for the park system. 01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:35.040 So we could have those change maybe every three years 01:25:35.040 --> 01:25:37.560 just to provide a little bit of variety. 01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.000 So that was the mindset there that we could have 01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.960 three to five pieces of art along Carroll Boulevard. 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.720 And that gets a lot of traffic as well. 01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:48.840 So that was another location 01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:50.840 that we considered for future art. 01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:56.700 And at that point, I'll go ahead and stop sharing 01:25:56.700 --> 01:25:58.240 so we can have some discussion. 01:25:58.240 --> 01:26:03.720 So there is a master plan that was identified 01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:05.700 and we're gonna go back and look at that 01:26:05.700 --> 01:26:08.120 as part of our master plan process as well 01:26:08.120 --> 01:26:11.680 for art placement and go back 01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:13.760 and make sure the inventory is up to speed 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:16.320 and have that map public facing 01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:18.320 so they could see where all that is. 01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:20.840 What John had talked about with the technology 01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:24.280 on your phone, similar to a QR code, 01:26:24.280 --> 01:26:27.260 apps now can recognize images. 01:26:27.260 --> 01:26:31.220 So the thought process is that it could be all of our art, 01:26:31.220 --> 01:26:35.040 whether it's a mural or a sculpture. 01:26:35.040 --> 01:26:38.800 And then we could also even do that at our cemeteries 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:41.280 where you could go and scan a headstone 01:26:41.280 --> 01:26:44.280 and it would give you a bio on that person. 01:26:44.280 --> 01:26:47.280 Our historical society is working on our veterans right now 01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:50.840 to do bios for those people and identify those soldiers 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.080 and even some founders of Texas. 01:26:53.080 --> 01:26:55.720 So that's a long-term project. 01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:58.840 But eventually, when people come in for a burial, 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:02.400 they could have an option to write a bio about that person. 01:27:02.400 --> 01:27:05.400 So that person's history is kind of preserved 01:27:05.400 --> 01:27:08.760 and you can put it on a website similar to Find a Grave. 01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:10.720 And when you brought up your phone, 01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:12.280 your camera would recognize that 01:27:12.280 --> 01:27:13.760 and link you over to Find a Grave 01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:15.760 where that data could be stored. 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.160 And it doesn't cost anything to do that. 01:27:18.160 --> 01:27:20.760 So that's another way that we thought 01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:23.880 that we could take our historical cemeteries 01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:27.320 and really bring them back to life, you know, literally, 01:27:27.320 --> 01:27:30.420 and preserve the history of the people of Denton. 01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:33.480 You know, obviously it's impossible to go back 01:27:33.480 --> 01:27:34.920 and get history on all those people, 01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:37.400 but we can do our best with the people 01:27:37.400 --> 01:27:40.240 that may still have family members here. 01:27:40.240 --> 01:27:42.720 So that we thought that was kind of an interesting project 01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.680 that we could have interns, library staff, 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.760 whoever work on that in the general public as a whole 01:27:48.760 --> 01:27:50.560 help us preserve that history. 01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.120 - Thank you, Gary. 01:27:54.120 --> 01:27:55.960 I broke, I see your hand. 01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:57.040 - So I don't have a question. 01:27:57.040 --> 01:27:58.880 I have a great announcement. 01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:03.360 We got the $9,000 and 10 cents from DVL 01:28:03.360 --> 01:28:05.800 to help fund the DWIF sculpture. 01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:08.000 So we got fully funded on that one. 01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.700 So now I can get this down to individual donors. 01:28:11.700 --> 01:28:13.640 So that's a good news. 01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:16.300 - So you said $9,000 and 10 cents? 01:28:16.300 --> 01:28:19.440 They had some change in their pocket 01:28:19.440 --> 01:28:21.120 they needed to get rid of? 01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:24.920 - I'm in DVL, so I knew they had 10 cents extra. 01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:27.180 So I rolled it into my application. 01:28:27.180 --> 01:28:30.440 So it works like a charm. 01:28:30.440 --> 01:28:32.400 - It pays to know details, I guess. 01:28:32.400 --> 01:28:34.400 So that's great news. 01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:35.660 That's first time we've heard of that too. 01:28:35.660 --> 01:28:37.840 So fantastic. 01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:42.840 So the thought, so if you remember Industrial Street Park, 01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:47.160 we came to the park board with a number of designs 01:28:47.160 --> 01:28:49.520 and we went to council and at the time council decided 01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:52.600 they wanted to kind of hold off on that development. 01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:56.800 So I guess the overall master plan that Drew's thinking 01:28:56.800 --> 01:29:00.560 is that we would design the sculpture. 01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:02.680 The sculpture and the grant has a timeline to it. 01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.000 It has to be done by August or we lose the grant. 01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:09.120 So the sculpture would go in 01:29:09.120 --> 01:29:12.200 and then phase two would be to do the other improvements 01:29:12.200 --> 01:29:14.000 to enhance the park itself. 01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.080 So it wasn't just a sculpture sitting 01:29:16.080 --> 01:29:18.720 in the middle of a grassy lot. 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:22.360 So we have to kind of go back a little bit 01:29:22.360 --> 01:29:24.120 and look at those designs to figure out 01:29:24.120 --> 01:29:28.160 how we could incorporate some of the existing design ideas 01:29:28.160 --> 01:29:31.460 that we had with the sculpture itself. 01:29:31.460 --> 01:29:34.960 And one part of the design for Industrial Street 01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:38.080 had a small stage on that property 01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:41.120 that people go out there and have a one man, two man band 01:29:41.120 --> 01:29:43.520 playing a saxophone or whatever it would be 01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:44.940 for some of the activities. 01:29:44.940 --> 01:29:51.040 So the brainstorm that we had was to use that sculpture, 01:29:51.380 --> 01:29:54.680 if you remember the disks, almost as a backdrop 01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.920 for the stage and the band could face forward 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.440 with the sculpture behind them to play entertainment. 01:30:02.440 --> 01:30:05.920 But then also you could use it as an outdoor classroom 01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:09.440 where the kids could sit on the stage and face the sculpture 01:30:09.440 --> 01:30:13.800 and have someone talk to them about whatever the topic is. 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:16.280 It could be about the DWF ladies 01:30:16.280 --> 01:30:18.040 or it could be about Denton history. 01:30:18.040 --> 01:30:19.540 It could be about anything. 01:30:19.540 --> 01:30:22.740 Or you could have a presenter stand on the stage 01:30:22.740 --> 01:30:25.000 as you would with the musician, 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:30.000 facing the grassy area with camps or adults 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:31.740 learning about a topic or whatever, 01:30:31.740 --> 01:30:34.760 and use it as an opportunity to kind of, 01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:37.360 an outdoor teaching area, 01:30:37.360 --> 01:30:40.220 similar to what we envisioned the nook being. 01:30:40.220 --> 01:30:45.220 So that was kind of our early initial thought process on that. 01:30:45.220 --> 01:30:47.920 We're in the process of trying to sketch that up 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:49.920 and just kind of hand draw it 01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:51.920 and kind of come up with some concepts. 01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:55.400 But I'll kind of leave it there for discussion. 01:30:55.400 --> 01:30:58.680 - Elana. 01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:02.840 - Hi, so I didn't put these together 01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:05.960 before we were in the naming rights 01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:09.240 or when we were doing that item earlier. 01:31:09.240 --> 01:31:14.240 And I just, when we were discussing the name change 01:31:14.320 --> 01:31:17.820 about for Industrial Park to Wolf, 01:31:17.820 --> 01:31:20.520 I didn't put it together 01:31:20.520 --> 01:31:23.000 that this sculpture was gonna be in that park. 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:26.800 And I really think it should be considered when naming it 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:31.640 because I don't see how naming at Wolf Park 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:35.080 has very much to do with that incredible sculpture. 01:31:35.080 --> 01:31:38.080 And I just feel like the name of the park 01:31:38.080 --> 01:31:40.640 should represent the meaning 01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:42.940 and everything that goes into that sculpture. 01:31:42.940 --> 01:31:46.640 So that goes into, I would like to have that added 01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:51.160 to the item about the naming of the park. 01:31:51.160 --> 01:31:53.600 - And then when we met with the ladies, 01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.760 their comment was they spent a lot of time there 01:31:56.760 --> 01:31:58.120 and that's one of the places 01:31:58.120 --> 01:32:02.480 that they would go and meet at or go and get lunch. 01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:05.280 And then, you know, either walk over to the square 01:32:05.280 --> 01:32:08.360 or walk somewhere in that area and have lunch. 01:32:08.360 --> 01:32:11.800 So they all remember, you know, Wolf's Food Store. 01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:14.960 And that was one of, that was just one of their areas 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:19.840 that they would either cross pass at or, you know, meet. 01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:21.600 I don't know if they really had meetings there 01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:23.280 but they would kind of cross pass. 01:32:23.280 --> 01:32:26.160 And I think, John, if you remember their conversations, 01:32:26.160 --> 01:32:29.080 they talked about it very highly and with a positive manner. 01:32:29.080 --> 01:32:29.920 So. 01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:34.000 - Yeah, and so I just think it's another good place 01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:38.520 to have community input outside of just like a small group. 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:39.580 - Yeah, that's great. 01:32:39.580 --> 01:32:40.960 That's a great point. 01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:44.160 So we can definitely ask them to maybe write 01:32:44.160 --> 01:32:46.920 a summary letter kind of with support 01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:49.400 or against, you know, the concept 01:32:49.400 --> 01:32:52.520 since that's a major piece of art that's going in there. 01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:54.920 So that's a great, great idea. 01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:55.740 Thank you. 01:32:55.740 --> 01:33:01.360 - Gary, I have a concern about the vandalism to the art 01:33:01.360 --> 01:33:05.720 and I'm just gonna say it, 01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:10.720 it seems to be any art that has a face that is black. 01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.160 Vandalism occurred with Pops Carter statue 01:33:15.160 --> 01:33:17.800 in Quaker Town Park and then had to be relocated. 01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:20.000 And now there's been multiple vandalism 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.160 with the ongoing art. 01:33:23.160 --> 01:33:28.160 So what plans or is there any plan to prevent vandalism? 01:33:28.160 --> 01:33:34.680 - Yeah, it really is an issue throughout our park system. 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:36.640 Unfortunately, it's something we deal with 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:38.560 on a regular basis. 01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:42.000 I understand that this could be targeted specifically. 01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.440 The mural is an easy one 01:33:44.440 --> 01:33:47.240 because we can put a clear coat on that. 01:33:47.240 --> 01:33:48.880 And then if you paint over top of it, 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:50.760 we can literally wipe it off. 01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:53.500 So that's something that we'll be applying 01:33:53.500 --> 01:33:55.280 on a regular basis in addition to, 01:33:55.280 --> 01:33:57.280 and I think Autumn can comment on this, 01:33:57.280 --> 01:34:00.240 is murals tend to get less vandalism 01:34:00.240 --> 01:34:05.840 because they don't seem as like an empty canvas 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:07.280 for someone to do something with. 01:34:07.280 --> 01:34:12.120 So it kind of deters vandalism a little bit in that sense, 01:34:12.120 --> 01:34:14.120 but we are going to be putting clear coat 01:34:14.120 --> 01:34:17.680 on the murals for sure to preserve those. 01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:20.720 We have expressed to the artists the concern 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:23.440 about that glass and whatever that product is 01:34:23.440 --> 01:34:25.120 that it can't be vandalized 01:34:25.120 --> 01:34:29.960 and what it's gonna take to get those either vandal proof 01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:33.800 or less susceptible to vandalism 01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:35.440 and then replacement as well. 01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:37.960 So I think that's discussions that we're still having. 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:41.560 John, I don't know if you have any updates on any of that. 01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:43.920 - Nothing other than these are coated too. 01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:47.880 And most of the rods you see are very strong, 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:50.760 stainless steel type rod that goes through it. 01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:53.400 All the glass pieces that you will actually see 01:34:53.400 --> 01:34:58.080 are lenticular type glass, very thick, very difficult. 01:34:58.080 --> 01:34:59.840 But just like any other sculpture, 01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:02.540 if somebody takes a sledgehammer to it, it's gonna get damaged. 01:35:02.540 --> 01:35:03.380 - Yeah. 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:09.880 - Have you thought about most of these structures 01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:12.320 have lights near them? 01:35:12.320 --> 01:35:14.880 Have you thought about security cameras attached 01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:17.960 to the already existing lighting? 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:21.880 - Yes, right now, of course, with our conversations 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:23.400 we've had in the last several months, 01:35:23.400 --> 01:35:25.640 and we did tell you that we are working 01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.120 on looking at different security cameras. 01:35:28.120 --> 01:35:30.320 We're testing several right now 01:35:30.320 --> 01:35:32.680 to see which ones are working the best 01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:35.200 and which ones have the clearest picture 01:35:35.200 --> 01:35:38.040 on top of where we can place them 01:35:38.040 --> 01:35:42.520 to where they're also out of vandalism's reach 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:45.120 because sometimes they either get vandalized 01:35:45.120 --> 01:35:46.280 or they get stolen. 01:35:46.280 --> 01:35:49.720 So we're testing out several different types right now. 01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.320 So, and with industrial, if you remember that park, 01:35:53.320 --> 01:35:56.360 it did have lights there. 01:35:56.360 --> 01:35:59.120 And we've already spoken to the artist 01:35:59.120 --> 01:36:01.360 that we showed her different renderings 01:36:01.360 --> 01:36:06.360 of what industrial kind of, and what was envisioned before. 01:36:06.360 --> 01:36:08.640 And part of the vision was light. 01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:11.880 So if you remember that amphitheater was kind of oval shape 01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:14.040 and then having lights coming up from underneath 01:36:14.040 --> 01:36:16.360 where it's lighting from the ground 01:36:16.360 --> 01:36:19.040 and lighting from the air from on top 01:36:19.040 --> 01:36:22.520 to be able to really emphasize that space 01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:24.880 and now that sculpture. 01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:26.320 - I mean, it's very unfortunate. 01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:28.720 I mean, we have people vandalize our cemeteries 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:31.840 all the time and go push over monuments 01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:33.760 that are a hundred years old 01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:37.680 and can't be replaced and fences. 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:41.720 So it's part of what we deal with, unfortunately. 01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:45.240 And it's something that we'll budget for 01:36:45.240 --> 01:36:46.560 and anticipate it happening, 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:48.960 but do our best to try to deter it. 01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.680 - Okay, I see two hands. 01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:54.160 Mr. Amberg was first, Burke you're next. 01:36:56.320 --> 01:36:58.880 - Oh, okay, I was gonna let say ladies first. 01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:03.120 - Well, okay, I'll gladly go first. 01:37:03.120 --> 01:37:04.960 I was just gonna say on that note, Gary, 01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:07.000 I was wondering if there was any more discussion 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.400 on potential for a graffiti park. 01:37:09.400 --> 01:37:12.800 I come from the idea of provide them a space for it 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:14.560 and it lowers the rate. 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:18.200 - Yeah, I haven't, we haven't really talked about it much. 01:37:18.200 --> 01:37:19.840 We're trying to get these other projects done 01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:23.040 that have been on hold, but Brooke's idea was, 01:37:23.040 --> 01:37:25.440 and there's some cities that have them as graffiti parks 01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:28.440 kind of similar to Cadillac Ranch 01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:31.760 where you can go over there and spray paint something. 01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:35.280 So maybe we can get some Peterbilt's that are old 01:37:35.280 --> 01:37:36.320 that we could put in a ground 01:37:36.320 --> 01:37:38.480 and have people go out and paint them somewhere. 01:37:38.480 --> 01:37:41.320 But that was an idea that maybe we could provide that 01:37:41.320 --> 01:37:44.520 as an opportunity for people to maybe burn off some energy 01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:46.200 in a better, more productive way. 01:37:46.200 --> 01:37:50.000 - Mr. Amberg. 01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.920 - Yeah, I was gonna suggest kind of taking off 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:57.920 from what Gary was saying, soften around the artistic piece 01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:02.400 would be to kind of like put holly bushes, 01:38:02.400 --> 01:38:07.400 low holly bushes around because they'll definitely keep people 01:38:07.400 --> 01:38:12.360 from trying to climb, it does it in a very subtle way, 01:38:12.360 --> 01:38:13.880 but also makes it look nice. 01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:17.560 It softens it up and makes it look better. 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:22.040 - Part of the artist's design of this is for you 01:38:22.040 --> 01:38:23.440 to actually interact with it. 01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:27.520 So get up close to it, read it, see the images. 01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:30.080 So we'd have to make sure that whatever we do, 01:38:30.080 --> 01:38:31.960 we work with them. 01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:33.640 And so you could scan it with your phone 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.360 and hear an interview with that person 01:38:36.360 --> 01:38:40.320 or be pushed over to a photo of that person 01:38:40.320 --> 01:38:44.440 or a bio or whatever it would be. 01:38:44.440 --> 01:38:47.640 There's more to learn with this piece. 01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:50.600 And the piece is really the engagement part 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:52.760 to get people interested in, oh, what's that? 01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:54.680 And going over there and exploring. 01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:59.080 So this one's supposed to be made to be interactive 01:38:59.080 --> 01:39:01.960 and pull people into it. 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:04.080 And the sphere that's in front of it 01:39:04.080 --> 01:39:07.280 actually has images and words on it. 01:39:07.280 --> 01:39:09.800 So when you walk around it, it changes. 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:11.800 Is that a good explanation of it? 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.960 So it kind of changes as you kind of walk around it. 01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:20.960 So the piece is intended to be interactive with people. 01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:25.080 So that's one consideration we have to consider. 01:39:25.080 --> 01:39:29.920 - Mr. Amrick, did you have an additional comment? 01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:31.360 - No, I was pretty much it. 01:39:31.360 --> 01:39:36.360 I just make a suggestion where we have interactive thing, 01:39:36.360 --> 01:39:39.600 obviously you couldn't use the bushes 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:42.800 except for maybe behind the back where you're not. 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:46.240 But the camera sounds good and the only thing 01:39:46.240 --> 01:39:51.240 I heard in here was to light it up a little more too. 01:39:51.240 --> 01:39:54.560 - There's a couple of trees we might have to take out. 01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.760 They are secondary trees, but the thought process 01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:00.480 would be to replace those and whether it's there 01:40:00.480 --> 01:40:03.880 or somewhere and that would provide a little bit 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:06.760 of openness to help detract some of that 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:09.200 and make sure that we get lighting in those areas. 01:40:09.200 --> 01:40:11.440 So that'll be something that we'll be looking at 01:40:11.440 --> 01:40:12.960 through the design process. 01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:16.880 - And the art piece, which you didn't actually see 01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:21.200 in the PowerPoint, there's other light elements 01:40:21.200 --> 01:40:24.200 that are like would line a walkway, 01:40:24.200 --> 01:40:26.840 have the same type of a lenticular glass. 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.120 Right now they're proposed to be solar powered, 01:40:30.120 --> 01:40:33.520 but they could be powered otherwise too 01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:36.920 because solar power may not get between those two buildings 01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:40.920 on either side really well to keep it wet real well for those. 01:40:42.440 --> 01:40:44.160 - Well, thank you for the information. 01:40:44.160 --> 01:40:48.440 I am really pleased to see that Industrial Park 01:40:48.440 --> 01:40:54.280 may be the final resting place because this was a concern 01:40:54.280 --> 01:40:59.280 that came from the community and their words are, 01:40:59.280 --> 01:41:03.280 their words were, it seems if it's black art, 01:41:03.280 --> 01:41:06.960 it goes to the perceived black part of town. 01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:11.960 And so they asked me to bring it to the table and so I did. 01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:16.680 And so it's really glad to know 01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:20.440 that it will hopefully be in Industrial Park. 01:41:20.440 --> 01:41:21.920 - Yeah, thanks to John. 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:26.360 He worked with Lenny McAdams to get a list of everybody 01:41:26.360 --> 01:41:27.200 and reached out. 01:41:27.200 --> 01:41:30.480 I think he personally called everybody and organized it 01:41:30.480 --> 01:41:35.480 for an in-person socially distanced meeting at MLK. 01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:39.120 And we had a couple of people online and it was good 01:41:39.120 --> 01:41:42.000 'cause we got just about everybody together that we could 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:43.440 and got feedback from them. 01:41:43.440 --> 01:41:44.720 There was some earlier discussions, 01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:47.120 I think that happened, maybe not as a group. 01:41:47.120 --> 01:41:49.560 And the information that was provided to us, 01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:51.880 the Fred Moore would be a good location for that, 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:54.440 but it was good to get that consensus 01:41:54.440 --> 01:41:56.040 from everybody in that support. 01:41:56.040 --> 01:41:59.920 - Thank you. - We presented both locations. 01:41:59.920 --> 01:42:01.760 - I'm sorry, John, say again. 01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:05.920 - We presented both locations and they were 100% 01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:07.560 for Industrial Park. 01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:10.200 Well, actually, no, one person, I think, 01:42:10.200 --> 01:42:14.400 in maybe the park or the public art committee 01:42:14.400 --> 01:42:15.560 wanted a different location, 01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.040 but that's the only dissenting vote 01:42:18.040 --> 01:42:19.800 of anybody that said anything. 01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:22.960 - Thank you, thank you so much. 01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:27.320 And Gary, before the Denton growth boom and COVID, 01:42:27.320 --> 01:42:30.560 we used to get updates about where the art was going 01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:33.560 and parks is, if we could add that back 01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:36.200 as a regular agenda item, 01:42:36.200 --> 01:42:38.000 that would be greatly appreciated. 01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:40.480 - We sure can do that. 01:42:40.480 --> 01:42:45.760 - All right, can you repeat that again, Francis, 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:48.320 for minutes purposes? 01:42:48.320 --> 01:42:54.400 - We used to receive, before the Denton growth and COVID, 01:42:54.400 --> 01:43:00.360 we used to receive updates of art going into parks. 01:43:01.400 --> 01:43:05.920 I'm just requesting that be added back as an agenda item. 01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:10.680 - We're not gonna have an update every single month, 01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:14.120 but as things happen, we'll definitely provide that for you. 01:43:14.120 --> 01:43:16.760 - Yes, thank you for clarifying that. 01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:17.600 - You're welcome. 01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:19.440 - That's really what I meant. 01:43:19.440 --> 01:43:20.880 - I just wanted to make sure. 01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:25.280 - Speak then, that leads us right to, 01:43:25.280 --> 01:43:28.320 any additional concerns, comments on this topic? 01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:34.000 That leads us to next meeting. 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:39.000 Do we have any items we would like to discuss 01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:42.600 for our next month's meeting? 01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:45.040 - I'll be able to provide an update next month. 01:43:45.040 --> 01:43:46.720 - Okay. 01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:50.240 - Eddie, is there anything that we have on the list 01:43:50.240 --> 01:43:53.000 that we either have coming forward 01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:56.280 or that we need, we owe the board 01:43:56.280 --> 01:43:59.400 that didn't make this agenda? 01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:03.240 - It was the wildflower. 01:44:03.240 --> 01:44:04.280 - Okay, that's right. 01:44:04.280 --> 01:44:07.840 So Drew's working on a wildflower plan, 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.960 kind of a master plan that would implement wildflowers 01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:13.880 throughout the city to help reduce our mowing efforts, 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:16.680 improve air quality and then add to beautification 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:18.440 that he's been researching on other cities. 01:44:18.440 --> 01:44:22.000 So he's gonna present that next month 01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:24.400 and then go to City Council. 01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:26.160 - And goes to City Council the eighth. 01:44:26.160 --> 01:44:28.200 - Yeah, so right around the same timeframe. 01:44:30.400 --> 01:44:32.080 - We might have a COVID update 01:44:32.080 --> 01:44:34.280 that we may just put that on there as a placeholder. 01:44:34.280 --> 01:44:35.360 And if we have any changes, 01:44:35.360 --> 01:44:37.160 we can provide that to you as well. 01:44:37.160 --> 01:44:41.040 - Ms. Danberg. 01:44:41.040 --> 01:44:45.120 - All right, sorry about that. 01:44:45.120 --> 01:44:46.880 I was meeting myself here. 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:51.880 To take two issues, one was questions, I guess. 01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:56.280 A lot of people have been asking about where we stock. 01:44:56.280 --> 01:44:59.680 I'd like to see if we can get an update on that, 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:04.680 where we stock ponds and waterways in the city of Denton 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:08.000 for fishing purposes, of course. 01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:09.960 And that would be the one. 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.960 And your question was asked was over at, 01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:21.040 there on Wilson Street. 01:45:21.040 --> 01:45:22.760 I'm having a brain fight here. 01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:25.200 The park there at Wilson Street, what's that called? 01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.360 Anyway, the park at Wilson Street. 01:45:30.360 --> 01:45:31.560 They were asking about, 01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:33.480 there used to be a building here 01:45:33.480 --> 01:45:38.480 with the American Legion and it got torn down. 01:45:38.480 --> 01:45:40.640 - Fred Moore Park. 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:41.960 - Fred Moore Park, thank you. 01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:42.800 Boy, brain fight. 01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:43.920 I know it off the top of my head 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:46.240 and all of a sudden I couldn't even remember it. 01:45:46.240 --> 01:45:48.360 So the Fred Moore, they were asking about that. 01:45:48.360 --> 01:45:51.280 And I wanted to see where we're at on that, 01:45:51.280 --> 01:45:54.400 that building, status or update on that. 01:45:54.400 --> 01:45:56.920 - Yeah, we could definitely provide an update on ALH 01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:59.920 to maybe even just Fred Moore Park as a whole. 01:45:59.920 --> 01:46:03.960 The item similar to the stocking of the pond, 01:46:03.960 --> 01:46:07.240 is that something that we could provide to you 01:46:07.240 --> 01:46:10.760 through a Friday report or just an email 01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:12.600 to share you with an update on that process? 01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:15.840 Or is that to a point where you want a full agenda item? 01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:19.760 - Well, I think it would be tough 01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:22.480 that they could be out there to get out to the public 01:46:22.480 --> 01:46:24.000 so they never to go fish, basically. 01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:24.840 - Okay. 01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:27.080 - So there's one caveat to that. 01:46:27.080 --> 01:46:29.160 So normally it is published. 01:46:29.160 --> 01:46:32.120 Texas Parks and Wildlife asks us to take that down 01:46:32.120 --> 01:46:34.560 and in the end of April, or excuse me, 01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:39.000 end of March, 1st of April, they still are stocking. 01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:40.320 We only stock one pond 01:46:40.320 --> 01:46:41.960 through the neighborhood fishing program. 01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:44.200 They asked for us to remove that 01:46:44.200 --> 01:46:47.080 from our publicized websites 01:46:47.080 --> 01:46:49.480 to make sure that they could continue to stock, 01:46:49.480 --> 01:46:53.520 but there wasn't an influx of people at the ponds 01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.440 while they were stocking, or right after they stocked. 01:46:56.440 --> 01:46:59.040 That way people could still social distance. 01:46:59.040 --> 01:46:59.880 So. 01:46:59.880 --> 01:47:05.960 It normally is publicized on our websites 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:08.720 and our social media, but we did stop that in March. 01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:10.960 - I wouldn't maybe back that off a little bit 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.160 and not say, okay, here's where we're stocking today, 01:47:13.160 --> 01:47:14.160 we're stocking that kind of thing, 01:47:14.160 --> 01:47:17.640 but rather here's places where people fish. 01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:18.960 - Okay, yeah, we can do that. 01:47:18.960 --> 01:47:22.240 - In the city of Denton, here's where you can fish. 01:47:22.240 --> 01:47:25.640 - Yeah, I talk to people weekly about where to go fish 01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:30.080 and what's there, so yes, I can do that. 01:47:30.080 --> 01:47:31.680 - Yeah, that's, yeah. 01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.240 - So did we decide, is it an agenda item 01:47:34.240 --> 01:47:36.800 or is it via email? 01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:38.960 - I'll do an agenda item, I'll do a presentation. 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:39.800 - That'd be perfect, yeah, 01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:43.000 and then we can make it public, yeah, 01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.000 we talked about, right? 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.400 - Thank you so much, Alana. 01:47:47.400 --> 01:47:51.120 - I just have a quick, I don't know what you'll call it, 01:47:53.120 --> 01:47:56.840 there's a strong possibility that we might, 01:47:56.840 --> 01:48:00.000 COVID cases are increasing really fast 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:02.120 and I don't wanna say this, 01:48:02.120 --> 01:48:06.160 but what if a lot of the gyms and yoga studios, 01:48:06.160 --> 01:48:09.040 places like that, they begin to close again, 01:48:09.040 --> 01:48:13.240 would the parks department be willing to maybe discount 01:48:13.240 --> 01:48:18.240 or waive the fees for a small yoga studio 01:48:20.080 --> 01:48:23.400 or Pilates studio or I don't know what, 01:48:23.400 --> 01:48:26.600 like athletic small businesses in town 01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:29.280 to have classes in the park 01:48:29.280 --> 01:48:31.720 so that they can be socially distanced, 01:48:31.720 --> 01:48:35.120 but not at the normal rates because they are struggling 01:48:35.120 --> 01:48:39.120 and it might be just something that could be provided 01:48:39.120 --> 01:48:42.840 in case we go back to a situation 01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:44.280 like we were in in the spring. 01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:50.600 - So we do have fitness groups that do planned rentals 01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:55.400 in the facility that we have a contract with, 01:48:55.400 --> 01:48:58.000 so we'd have to work through those details 01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:02.120 and figure out how that's kind of balancing everybody 01:49:02.120 --> 01:49:06.480 in a fair manner, the issue there is, 01:49:06.480 --> 01:49:08.000 how many people are showing up for that, 01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:10.480 so those are all factors we'll have to look at, 01:49:10.480 --> 01:49:12.560 plus we're hitting winter here soon, 01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:14.480 so that is a little bit challenged too, 01:49:14.480 --> 01:49:16.400 but that's something we can look at, 01:49:16.400 --> 01:49:18.440 hopefully we don't go in that direction, 01:49:18.440 --> 01:49:22.680 but we can put that on our list to consider 01:49:22.680 --> 01:49:23.880 if we get to that point. 01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:33.960 - Other concerns, items for discussion for next month? 01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:42.760 And Eddie, the only one that was left over was wildflowers. 01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.680 - You're on mute, yes, that is the only one that we had. 01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:51.680 - Yes, that is the only one and also adding in 01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:54.680 the Denton Parks Foundation back on to the list. 01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:59.280 - Could you repeat that, I'm sorry. 01:49:59.280 --> 01:50:03.520 - Wildflower and adding a Denton Parks Foundation 01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:05.160 back to the list. 01:50:05.160 --> 01:50:06.440 - Very good. 01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:09.400 - Eddie, just one, I guess quick thing, 01:50:09.400 --> 01:50:13.240 do you remember what the status of the wildflowers 01:50:13.240 --> 01:50:18.240 and the status of the boards and commissions is? 01:50:18.240 --> 01:50:23.920 - I'll get the city secretary, 01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:28.920 I believe if there's gonna be a change over or an update, 01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:31.680 I believe it's gonna be the beginning of the year. 01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:32.760 - Beginning of the year, okay. 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:37.040 - Yeah, I believe January, but don't count me on it, 01:50:37.040 --> 01:50:39.040 I just need to get more information, 01:50:39.040 --> 01:50:41.280 hopefully I'll get that by the next 01:50:41.280 --> 01:50:42.840 park board meeting in December. 01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:46.600 Typically everyone's either comes on or rolls off 01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:48.520 depending on when they were due to expire 01:50:48.520 --> 01:50:53.160 in August timeframe, but with the delayed voting, 01:50:53.160 --> 01:50:56.880 everything was pushed back and that's why we're voting now. 01:50:56.880 --> 01:51:01.280 So I guess anybody that was set to term off or change 01:51:01.280 --> 01:51:05.040 that would take place in January rough timeframe, 01:51:05.040 --> 01:51:07.040 so we can provide some more information 01:51:07.040 --> 01:51:10.640 as city secretary's office gets that finalized. 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:14.160 If worst case scenario as well to interject on that, 01:51:14.160 --> 01:51:17.400 I mean, I can send all of you an email as well 01:51:17.400 --> 01:51:22.400 by find further information before the park board meeting. 01:51:22.400 --> 01:51:26.040 - Yeah, if we could maybe just provide 01:51:26.040 --> 01:51:30.320 the updated board sheet, not everybody may even know 01:51:30.320 --> 01:51:32.960 how many years or how many terms they have so far. 01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:36.400 So I'll make a big good reminder. 01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:44.880 All right, if there are no additional comments or concerns, 01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:47.040 may I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? 01:51:47.040 --> 01:51:53.000 - Unless everyone just wants to hang on, 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:54.640 we can keep talking. 01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:57.440 - Please, please may I have a motion 01:51:57.440 --> 01:51:58.640 to adjourn the meeting? 01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:05.080 Okay, Atlanta made a motion and Mr. Emmerich second. 01:52:05.080 --> 01:52:08.040 All in favor? 01:52:08.040 --> 01:52:08.880 - Aye. 01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:09.720 - Aye. 01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:15.680 Okay, the ayes have it, meeting is adjourned, 224, Eddie. 01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:20.080 - All right guys. 01:52:20.080 --> 01:52:20.920 - Thank you. 01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:24.040 - Thanks, all those can leave that don't wanna meet, right? 01:52:24.040 --> 01:52:26.440 - Bye everyone. 01:52:26.440 --> 01:52:27.280 - Bye. - Bye bye.