1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 - Time is 12.32, I am Frances Punch. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:14,380 I am the chair for the Denton Parks and Recreation Board 3 00:00:14,380 --> 00:00:16,660 and welcome to the November Parks 4 00:00:16,660 --> 00:00:19,100 and Recreation Board meeting. 5 00:00:19,100 --> 00:00:24,100 Today we have two absences, one excuse and one pending. 6 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:29,820 Do we have any outside calls? 7 00:00:30,260 --> 00:00:31,800 Or members from the public? 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,760 - We have no calls and no comments on the online form. 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,440 - Okay, thank you so much. 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,520 First item is consideration of the minutes 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,900 for October 12th, 2020. 12 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:51,220 Do we have any questions, concerns, discussions? 13 00:00:51,220 --> 00:00:58,020 May I have a motion to approve the minutes? 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,840 - Aye. 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:08,880 - I'll motion to approve the minutes from October. 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,880 - May I have a second? 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,100 - I'll second. 18 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:20,520 - All in favor, raise hand please. 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,120 - Aye. 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,680 - Aye, Denona. 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,560 - Okay, anyone oppose? No one opposed? 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,840 The ayes have it, the motion carries. 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,720 First item, we're gonna receive a report 24 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,960 and hold discussion and give staff direction 25 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:45,160 regarding the amendment to the code of ordinance 26 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:50,020 as modified by ordinance 192866. 27 00:01:50,020 --> 00:01:56,120 And so Gary, who's doing that? 28 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,600 - Eddie, Eddie was gonna, that's the item he was working on. 29 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,440 - Okay. 30 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:12,680 - So based on just a quick history, 31 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,080 last month we are revisiting the ordinance 32 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,760 for the boards and commission absenteeism. 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,360 And part of that process, from the last time, 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,480 we basically ended up tabling it 35 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,480 to talk more in depth about this amendment 36 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,280 to the code of ordinances. 37 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,720 And between that time, Frances Punch 38 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,400 was able to create a memo. 39 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,760 I don't know if you all have seen the attachment for that. 40 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,200 It's on your backup. 41 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,280 And it basically discusses the two things 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,180 to add onto the ordinance. 43 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:55,160 One of them is family emergency, is that correct? 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,080 I don't remember. 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,760 - Family responsibilities. 46 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,480 - Family responsibilities. 47 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,120 And another item that should be also in discussion 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,840 is part of the issue I think we're running into 49 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,840 is that normally we would meet for park board meetings 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,320 after six o'clock p.m. 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,140 And because of COVID-19, we're doing it during the daytime. 52 00:03:20,140 --> 00:03:25,140 So I think one of the discussions that should be talked about 53 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,680 is how you guys wanna approach it 54 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,800 in the respect of COVID-19, 55 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,800 because right now you guys are all flexing your times 56 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,440 to get to these park board meetings during business hours 57 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,820 and also family responsibility as well. 58 00:03:43,820 --> 00:03:46,760 Does that sum that up, Frances? 59 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,880 - Yes, sounds good. 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,680 - So I guess we're trying to get input 61 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,900 from all of you and what your thoughts are. 62 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:59,280 I think our next steps after this 63 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,400 is we're gonna try to put it on the City Council agenda 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,160 for them to basically talk about it. 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,000 And you guys are holding a stand 66 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,320 on what you wanna provide to City Council. 67 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,080 And we're gonna move this memo forward 68 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,440 to City Council as well. 69 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:21,640 - The floor is open for discussion, questions and concerns. 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,680 - We talked about this last time and there was like, 71 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,680 personal business, if we have personal family time 72 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,840 was one of the ones we brought up. 73 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:33,680 There was another one. 74 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,600 It's not coming to me off the top of my head. 75 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,440 Anybody? 76 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,440 - The question is, do you have any opposition 77 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,440 or to adding or requesting the amendments? 78 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,880 - I don't know. 79 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Requesting the amendments to the ordinance. 80 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,000 And we are trying to move forward 81 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,000 and request addition, those two additions, 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,200 family responsibilities. 83 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,200 And I think it's a pandemic, emergency situations, 84 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,320 something of that nomenclature. 85 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,960 - I agree to move forward with that. 86 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,180 And thanks, Frances, for doing it. 87 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,840 - Yeah, it's family responsibilities 88 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:29,640 and then pandemic/world events/emergency situations. 89 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,960 - Thank you, Gary. 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,160 - I think it's great. 91 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Also, I think the family piece that you have amended 92 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,480 gives us a little broader scope. 93 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,280 And I know we all feel like family members should be first 94 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:51,000 just in our day to day. 95 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,000 So I think those are some good verbiage 96 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,240 to make it all encompassing 97 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,760 when it comes to our family members. 98 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,720 And as far as putting the language in there 99 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,520 about the pandemic and just working in general, 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,920 I think it's harder for people to get together 101 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,680 because we do work during the daytime. 102 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,480 I know personally, I took off today. 103 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,000 So I'm gonna try to take off 104 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,880 so I can be at these meetings 105 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,880 because some positions are a little bit busier 106 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,220 than the others. 107 00:06:32,220 --> 00:06:35,120 And mine is one of those where I've got a ton of folks 108 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,080 just in my face constantly. 109 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,220 So I think these are some good suggestions. 110 00:06:42,220 --> 00:06:46,680 - Mr. Emory. 111 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,440 - Well, that was the second Gary read off 112 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,280 when I was looking for it. 113 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,720 Thank you. 114 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,840 And I agree with this. 115 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,200 I think we should move forward on this. 116 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,360 So it's definitely a large hole in the excuse column 117 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,480 that should be there. 118 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Absolutely. 119 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:10,580 - Okay, so Eddie, do I am? 120 00:07:10,580 --> 00:07:15,680 At the last meeting, I didn't know the correct procedure. 121 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 So what's the procedure from here? 122 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,080 'Cause this isn't, I don't see that this is an action item 123 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,220 but everybody's in agreement to move forward. 124 00:07:24,220 --> 00:07:25,480 - This is an action item. 125 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,320 You guys have this one. 126 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,040 You're moving, what you're voting for is that memorandum 127 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,240 and that you all agree to it as a stand. 128 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,360 So we can go to boot this forward to city council 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,280 for their discussion on how they wanna proceed 130 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,320 on adding possibly these two items. 131 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,900 And I think I think that, you guys are taking a stand 132 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:46,800 on how they need to discuss this 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,520 because what the pandemic world situation 134 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,640 and also what more clarity with family responsibilities 135 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,740 is something that you guys have concerns about. 136 00:07:56,740 --> 00:07:59,840 - Okay, so may I have a motion to move forward 137 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,880 with the memo as stated? 138 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,360 - I'll motion to move forward. 139 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,200 - Second. 140 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,440 - I'll second. 141 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,480 - All in favor. 142 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,240 - Okay, motion passes. 143 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,460 Next item. 144 00:08:19,460 --> 00:08:22,880 Receive a report, hold a discussion 145 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,680 and give staff input regarding an update 146 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,960 of the city of Denton Parks and Recreation Department 147 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,400 COVID-19 response. 148 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,880 - Gary Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation. 149 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Just to kind of give you a high level 150 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,520 and then kind of bring it down to a little more detail. 151 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,560 As of right now, we have our North Lakes Recreation Center 152 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:49,560 and MLK Junior Recreation Center that are open. 153 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:51,880 The natatorium is open as well 154 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:58,120 with modified hours in limited programming. 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,560 Based on our current protocols, 156 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,160 we're maintaining those facilities open to the public 157 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,880 for programming or for fitness related 158 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 or for specific swim programs. 159 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,200 DISD is using the natatorium as well. 160 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:17,560 We have been looking at reopening originally. 161 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:21,320 Our reopening plan was to have DENIA open 162 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 roughly December, January, 163 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,000 and then the senior centers open up after January 1 164 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 or when everyone comes back from the holidays. 165 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,560 We were looking at possibly opening the senior center 166 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:37,360 three days a week from roughly eight to one, 167 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,840 morning hours at the end of November 168 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,120 based off of requests that we've had. 169 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,460 And then DENIA would open up following that. 170 00:09:48,460 --> 00:09:51,920 We've had some discussions within the organization 171 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,960 and we had some this morning with staff 172 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,500 and we're gonna be meeting with city manager's office 173 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:00,960 as well as public affairs and library later this week 174 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,980 to talk in a little bit more detail. 175 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:04,780 But I think we're going to probably push 176 00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:07,080 some of those reopenings of the new facilities 177 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,320 back a little bit more 178 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:12,400 and anticipate a later opening 179 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,940 because of the cases that are going up. 180 00:10:14,940 --> 00:10:17,680 And then we're also revisiting some of our protocols 181 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,200 to make sure that we're cleaning the facilities 182 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,000 as frequently as we can 183 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,200 and keep everybody as best we can safe. 184 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,480 We've had a lot of challenges like every business does. 185 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,080 You have people that do get sick. 186 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,480 We do have people that may have been exposed 187 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,080 and they're out for a period of time 188 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,160 and they're getting tested. 189 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Kids at school that are possibly exposed 190 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,880 or getting tested or have been exposed and tested positive 191 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,880 that kind of create a ripple effect 192 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 throughout the families and businesses. 193 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,840 So the other thing, not just keeping people safe 194 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 but it's also trying to keep our staff safe 195 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 and the more facilities we open, 196 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,940 the thinner our staff gets 197 00:11:04,940 --> 00:11:06,720 and the thinner amount of people we have. 198 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,720 So it's been a challenge. 199 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Staff has done a tremendous job keeping up with everything 200 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,860 and trying to provide programs to the community 201 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:18,540 and we're doing the best we can. 202 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:20,120 But I think what we're probably gonna do 203 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,440 after we have discussion 204 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,680 is just delaying some of our reopenings. 205 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,720 So we're gonna have some more discussion this week 206 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,260 with city management and the library 207 00:11:30,260 --> 00:11:32,280 in regards to what they're gonna do as well. 208 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,180 So I would anticipate some sort of press release coming out 209 00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:37,400 maybe at the end of the week with an update 210 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,760 in regards to our next steps. 211 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:49,420 Any questions about our operations related to COVID? 212 00:11:49,420 --> 00:11:55,160 - Thank you so much. 213 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,120 - Have any companies reached out about asking... 214 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,180 Can you hear me? 215 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:04,240 - Asking about what? 216 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,320 - No. 217 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,320 - Yes, we can. 218 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,480 - We can hear you, yes. 219 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,880 - Any companies reach out and ask about, 220 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,600 would you be able to do COVID testing? 221 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,220 I know they have COVID testing 222 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:25,220 like on some of the corners at the mall, 223 00:12:25,220 --> 00:12:30,840 but have any companies ever asked to come in 224 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,780 and provide COVID testing? 225 00:12:33,780 --> 00:12:38,780 - I haven't heard any in regards to the rec centers. 226 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:41,740 I know the county does have the ones at the mall, 227 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:45,820 but we haven't had any specific requests 228 00:12:45,820 --> 00:12:48,020 that I'm aware of for parks and recreation. 229 00:12:48,020 --> 00:12:54,240 - You can get a speed one at... 230 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 You can get a speed test over at CVS 231 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,360 on Teasley and Billy Miller. 232 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,080 Drive in, they test you, 233 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,500 and then you know the results within a day. 234 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:10,920 - Do you guys have any plans set up already 235 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,200 just based on the statistics of closing down playgrounds, 236 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,200 not parks, and just kind of what number percentage, 237 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,520 like if it hits this, we expect to do this, 238 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,420 or is that what you're saying? 239 00:13:23,420 --> 00:13:25,640 We'll hear later this week? 240 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,920 - Yeah, we're looking at two things. 241 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,640 One, the future expansion of reopening, 242 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,960 and then kind of what we're currently offering. 243 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,560 So we're pushing that reopening of new facilities, 244 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:42,000 new programs out further. 245 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,120 So that's kind of our initial thought. 246 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 And then the existing programs that we do 247 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,280 are the things that we need to shore up 248 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,680 in regards to cleaning protocols, 249 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:55,280 elevate them at this point in time. 250 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 There are certain hours that we want to maybe cut back on. 251 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Maybe certain programs that may be higher risk 252 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,160 that we may not wanna do. 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,280 So we're looking at those things right now. 254 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,240 I don't know of a number of cities 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,720 that have started closing down tennis courts 256 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,020 and basketball courts and playgrounds like they had. 257 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,640 I think there's been some discussion. 258 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,320 There was one city that decided 259 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 they're not gonna have any events until May of 2021, 260 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,380 and they threw out some dates there. 261 00:14:23,380 --> 00:14:26,520 So the school districts are obviously the big, 262 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,760 kind of the gorilla in the room 263 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,160 in regards to what they're doing. 264 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,840 And I think that'll kind of have a trickle down effect 265 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,040 onto us as well. 266 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,600 And we have seen some of the smaller schools close, 267 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,880 but that's a struggle too, 268 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,780 because not everyone can be home with kids 269 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:41,880 and we experienced that. 270 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,360 So it's a really tough position for everybody. 271 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,180 And the last thing we wanna do is close down 272 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:52,440 the programs and services we provide to people, 273 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,520 'cause that's really an outlet for them. 274 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,080 So we're gonna do our best 275 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 to try to keep everybody safe as we can, 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,560 and then continue, try to keep our parks open 277 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,480 for everyone to go out and enjoy and exercise, 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,680 get away from the computer 279 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,000 and get out and get some fresh air, 280 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,320 and we'll adjust as needed. 281 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Hopefully we don't have to go to that extreme again. 282 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,480 We're getting close to 4,000 active cases 283 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,480 if you look at the Denton County website. 284 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,920 We're almost a thousand cases 285 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 above the high point in the summer. 286 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,440 So it is definitely worse and more challenging 287 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,960 than it was early this summer. 288 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,440 But I think people are tired 289 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,360 and they wanna get back to normal life. 290 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,560 We're just not there yet. 291 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:50,680 - We'll say that we're near the RECA park here 292 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,440 and I'll tell you that trail there 293 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,920 is highly, highly utilized every day, every morning. 294 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,300 So the good news is the trails are being definitely, 295 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:04,880 and I think also Katie Trail 296 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,480 knows a lot more people out there on their bikes. 297 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,080 So the trails have been a savior in all of this. 298 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,080 - They are getting a lot of use for sure. 299 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,280 - Yep. 300 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Okay, if there are no additional questions or concerns, 301 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,720 we will move to the next item. 302 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,800 We are gonna receive a report, hold a discussion 303 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,280 and give staff input regarding the Denton Parks 304 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,720 and Recreation, Beautification, Education 305 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,560 and Event Services Division 306 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,640 and Clearcrete Natural Heritage Center. 307 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,440 - Okay, Autumn is gonna talk about this. 308 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,800 I'll bring up the presentation 309 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,080 and unless Autumn, you wanted to bring it up. 310 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,920 - Actually don't. 311 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,400 - Okay, I'll do it. 312 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,680 So just to kind of give everybody an introduction, 313 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:04,120 Katie B joined us, I guess to write a little over a year ago 314 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:06,200 and came over to Parks and Recreation 315 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,000 and has been a great fit for our organization 316 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,800 and hopefully a great fit for what they do. 317 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,040 There's a lot of overlap 318 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,080 and we feel it was a seamless transition 319 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,880 in regards to the services they provide 320 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,280 and how we can support them as well. 321 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,480 And then this summer with COVID, 322 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,640 we are looking at ways that we could streamline 323 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,240 a lot of our business. 324 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,000 We centralized our mowing practices and Drew's team. 325 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,400 So we're mowing and maintaining the land 326 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,400 for all city assets except for like the landfill and drainage. 327 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,320 So that was a seamless transition. 328 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,480 The other thing that we looked at was Clear Creek 329 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,400 in regards to programming that we provide there 330 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,680 and obviously our park maintenance that we do. 331 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,800 So that was moved over earlier this summer 332 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,240 and that's moved into a new group that we took Katie B, 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,280 the Civic Center and all the internal 334 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,320 and external events that we do in Clear Creek 335 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,840 and created a new group. 336 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,240 So that's what Autumn is here to share with you. 337 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,040 So let me go ahead and bring that up. 338 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,080 (mouse clicking) 339 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Let's see, it's a page. 340 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,400 Okay. 341 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Can you guys see that? 342 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,080 - Yeah, perfect introduction, Gary. 343 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,800 All right, like you mentioned, I'm Autumn Natale, 344 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 I'm Program and Events Manager. 345 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,280 You're in the department and he mentioned 346 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,880 one of the major changes that came out of this 347 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,480 was Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center. 348 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Sorry, something's happening with my screen. 349 00:18:53,600 --> 00:19:08,880 There we go, sorry about that. 350 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,280 As you all mentioned, one of the real benefits 351 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,560 during this pandemic was people getting out to the trails 352 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,040 and that's no exception at Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center 353 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,000 and that transitioned over to our department 354 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,200 to help with the maintenance 355 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,520 but we saw a lot of synergy there with the outdoor efforts 356 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,800 and educational aspects we could bring to it 357 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,480 as well as hosting events there. 358 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,600 So we are looking at improving that overall 359 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,840 and look forward to a overall master plan 360 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,480 coming in the next year. 361 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,520 - Can everybody see my screen? 362 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,360 - Yes. 363 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,800 - Autumn, can you see it? 364 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 It says Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center? 365 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,860 - Yes. 366 00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:58,120 - Okay, all right, we'll make sure everyone can see it. 367 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,160 - Yeah, you can go ahead and advance to the next slide. 368 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,200 - Okay, okay. 369 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,040 - Thank you. 370 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:10,080 So one of the other exciting opportunities is our new team 371 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,200 which is BEES for short. 372 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,400 It's Beautification, Education and Event Services 373 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,520 that brings all of those areas 374 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,800 that were kind of off on an island on their own 375 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 all together to collaborate 376 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,200 and so far it's worked out really well 377 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,680 and we've had a lot of overlap 378 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,840 but the very first section that BEES 379 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,800 is the beautification piece 380 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,760 and I believe that's on the next slide. 381 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:39,920 Thank you. 382 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,880 So this is where the KDB 383 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Keep Deton Beautiful Initiatives will continue. 384 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,960 I'm sure you heard that Keep Deton Beautiful Inc, 385 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,680 a nonprofit, is in the process of dissolving 386 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,160 and handing over all management and funding to the city side. 387 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,040 That has been a pretty seamless transition so far 388 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,600 and I see it continuing that way 389 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,840 with continuing the tree plantings, 390 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,400 beautification and mural projects 391 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,440 and of course our city-wide litter programs 392 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,200 and volunteer projects have not slowed down 393 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,560 since the pandemic hit. 394 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,600 We've been out there. 395 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,080 You probably have seen our volunteers hard at work. 396 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,040 There's a lot of very undentened 397 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,440 so that allows for social distancing 398 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,280 and we've seen a lot of increase in PPE littering 399 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,200 so we wanna make sure we get out there 400 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,560 and still keep our community clean 401 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,960 because we're seeing with our residents going outdoors 402 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,360 for more litter and we wanna keep our parks 403 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:48,760 just as nice for people to keep those litter free. 404 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,560 The other aspect is environmental education. 405 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,880 So this is where the education component comes in. 406 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Sustainability is a division 407 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,280 within the utilities wastewater department 408 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,720 and previously for years they had managed a couple programs 409 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,600 and the main piece being the sustainability workshops. 410 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,720 So those are coming over 411 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,480 as well as the Denton Sustainable Schools Program 412 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,800 which was previously managed. 413 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Alana, you're familiar with this 414 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,280 by Solid Waste and Recycling. 415 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Those are valuable programs 416 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,800 that keeps us connected with Denton ISD. 417 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,800 It helps us attract people out to Clear Creek 418 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,440 and it keeps sustainable education going 419 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,280 and supporting the Simply Sustainable Citywide Master Plan. 420 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:46,880 And then the last piece is event services. 421 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,880 You're very familiar with our events 422 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,160 that we're missing so much right now. 423 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,920 A few of them are listed there. 424 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,960 Right now we're working on converting those to virtual 425 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,120 and trying to still enjoy extravaganza and egg hunt 426 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,120 in a safe way coming this spring. 427 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:08,240 But we also manage the rentals at the Civic Center 428 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,960 and all of the community events. 429 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560 We partner with them to make sure that they're, 430 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,520 they have what they need to host events within the parks. 431 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:23,560 So that's our new exciting division. 432 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280 It's one of the really great things 433 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,960 that came out of a tough time. 434 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Does anyone have any questions? 435 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Yes, I can see James' hands up. 436 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,120 - Yeah. 437 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:42,480 You want me to say? 438 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,720 - No, I'm gonna take this down. 439 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,560 - Yes, thank you. 440 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,960 I was about to request that. 441 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760 - Anyway, good question. 442 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,680 Who do we contact if schools want, 443 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,640 the students want our schools organized 444 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,920 to take people out to the Clear Creek Reserve? 445 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,360 Who do they contact here? 446 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,600 You? 447 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,080 - Yes, that would be me. 448 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,800 I'll go ahead and get my email to each of you. 449 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,040 But any school presentations would come through us 450 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 if you wanted a guided hike out at the trails. 451 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440 The trails are open for anyone to use. 452 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,800 We've already had school groups 453 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,480 going out there on their own. 454 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,800 But if you wanna be connected with a guide, 455 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,760 then that would be our group. 456 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,640 - Okay, that'd be great. 457 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,600 - Autumn, I was curious if you guys had any programming 458 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,600 or specific area that focused on making sure 459 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,840 that we were getting all different types of people 460 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,240 to the parks for inclusivity, 461 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,360 if you had something specific in regards to that. 462 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,560 - Yes, yeah, we're actually working 463 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,480 with our education coordinator right now 464 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,840 in developing a program that's linked to the book 465 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Black Faces, White Spaces. 466 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,320 And so that's encouraging minority groups 467 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,040 to come out to the outdoors 468 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,400 and identifying the things that might be limiting them 469 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 from those opportunities. 470 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,440 But specifically partnering with TWU 471 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,960 to have school groups come out and, 472 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,400 sorry, university groups come out 473 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,400 and do either a guided hike or a diving trip. 474 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,200 And we've looked at an overnight camping trip. 475 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,240 - Thank you. 476 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:37,800 - So you know I probably have questions 477 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,760 about different sustainable schools. 478 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,560 So what is the plan with continuing that program? 479 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,160 Is it gonna be like where it used to, 480 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,160 like schools would participate and get money 481 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,320 from the recycling fund for the school 482 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,920 to do environmental programs? 483 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,280 Like how is that gonna be? 484 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,840 It's kinda like what's the form of it now? 485 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080 - Right, so the form is pretty much the same. 486 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,160 We're gonna provide presentation support 487 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,480 and guidance and resources. 488 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920 But the funding aspect, that previously came 489 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,600 from solid waste and recycling. 490 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,960 And I understand that that was tied to funds from Pratt. 491 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,640 And with the decrease in commodities, 492 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,920 they're seeing a decrease in that funding. 493 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,200 So that department has decided to cease funding 494 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,040 for at least this year. 495 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840 And we're looking at potential incentives for the schools, 496 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,200 whether that be some kind of award or recognition 497 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,560 that's not monetary. 498 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,040 But we're open to suggestions if anyone has them. 499 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,640 But we are going to continue with the same support 500 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,240 that we provide for the schools 501 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560 with the exception of the monetary. 502 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,120 - So y'all will still be like working 503 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,000 with their custodians and the administration 504 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,960 to ensure that there is recycling infrastructure 505 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,800 in the schools and they have everything they need 506 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,800 to have more sustainable infrastructure all around. 507 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,800 - Right, so our piece in this is providing 508 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800 the educational resources and connecting people 509 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280 to the right person in the city. 510 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,320 For the recycling aspects, for the waste audits 511 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,600 and increasing those recycling rates, 512 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,160 that will fall to the recycling education coordinator 513 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,600 that's still within the sustainability division. 514 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,800 Currently that position is vacant, 515 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,120 but there are two staff members 516 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,800 who are addressing that right now. 517 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,640 - Just to understand where the division between 518 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,120 what we're doing and what sustainability is doing, 519 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,840 the easiest way is all the regulatory items 520 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,360 is still staying within sustainability. 521 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,400 All the programmatic things that they used to do 522 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,680 came over to Parks and Recreation. 523 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,400 That line is still a little wiggly 524 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,640 on some of the things that we do and they do, 525 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,280 but that's the easiest way to explain the split from that. 526 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800 So from a programming standpoint 527 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,360 and from a park maintenance standpoint, 528 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,560 that's what we're doing with the sustainability programs 529 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560 and what Autumn just talked about 530 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,600 and then from a park maintenance standpoint, obviously. 531 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,560 But all the regulatory things, 532 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,560 whether it's air quality, all those types of things 533 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,760 are still being done by sustainability. 534 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240 - Autumn, I'm curious, what is the gap in funding 535 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520 that exists that you would have been giving out 536 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,520 as incentives? 537 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,440 - So I don't know that piece. 538 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,080 I haven't seen the actual numbers. 539 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,920 I know that Solid Waste had stepped in 540 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,720 and it changes from year to year on the commodities. 541 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,160 So I don't know what the numbers are 542 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,440 for this past year that they didn't fund, 543 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,280 but I could find out and get that information. 544 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,800 - Yeah, that would be awesome. 545 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,240 I'd love to talk to our board 546 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480 and see if there's potential or funding grants 547 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,000 that could help fund the program. 548 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,440 - I have a question. 549 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,320 So you said earlier, like all the educational stuff 550 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,840 for internal and external pretty much for sustainability 551 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640 is gonna be like funneled through the bees. 552 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,240 What is the plan for educating the internal parks 553 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040 and rec staff about sustainability? 554 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,640 Because I know like when you hire people 555 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,280 who are maybe an expert in one thing 556 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,160 and then transition them into like a new way of thinking 557 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,160 or a new position, they might need a little training 558 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960 to understand fully what sustainability is 559 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,760 and how that impacts each job and division. 560 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,000 - Right, yeah, so sustainability is a big piece 561 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,600 of our strategic plan in the department, 562 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,480 but citywide, we've got a city green team 563 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520 that just started back up last week. 564 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,280 And we have, I think four or five parks and rec staff members 565 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,640 a part of that green team. 566 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,520 And that's one of the things we're discussing 567 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,360 is how can we can take the information in those meetings 568 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,240 and bring it back to our own departments. 569 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520 So that may be a future presentation 570 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,400 for the whole department to allow for all staff 571 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,120 to be familiarized with sustainability initiatives, 572 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,440 but how they can implement them now at the different rec centers 573 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,720 or out at the parks. 574 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160 - One of the challenges we do have, 575 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,760 and Drew can attest to this, is our garbage cans. 576 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Our park system, we have, I don't know, 577 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,960 I'm gonna guess here a thousand of the 55 gallon drums, 578 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,440 and we have a blue and green one right next to each other, 579 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,240 and they're contaminated all the time. 580 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,160 So we do need to look at a way 581 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,120 that we can have better containers 582 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,800 that make it easier for people to self-identify 583 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,960 where they're supposed to be putting items. 584 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,880 The problem is, we went out and looked at some prices 585 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120 probably a year ago, a year and a half ago, 586 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,080 and it was a million dollars to replace all our trash cans. 587 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,440 And on the list of priorities, I don't know where that sits. 588 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,600 It's a hard pill to swallow 589 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600 to spend a million dollars on trash cans. 590 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,440 But that's an issue for sure. 591 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,800 And so it's not just staff, it's still the general public 592 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,120 in trying to get them to not contaminate, you know, 593 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:40,120 one can across the entire organization of the park system. 594 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,280 - I definitely am familiar with that issue. 595 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,720 - But I thought it had something to do with two cans. 596 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,520 If they get corrupted, or what do you call it? 597 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,480 - Contaminated? - Contaminated. 598 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,800 - Yeah, why even bother with two cans? 599 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,680 - We want to still try, right? 600 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320 So, I mean, we don't wanna lose the effort 601 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,960 for trying to recycle in our community. 602 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,280 And that's something that we're gonna continue to work on 603 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,720 with the educational factor, you know, really, 604 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,360 I know Alana probably had, you know, 605 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,760 she's got experience with it. 606 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,920 You start young, you know, 607 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,960 if you get the word out in the school system 608 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,080 that, you know, this is the benefit of recycling, 609 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,520 then they take that home, 610 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,160 and then that continues to carry on. 611 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360 So, you know, Autumn and I have already talked about this, 612 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360 that we really want to start 613 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800 that kind of educational factor again, 614 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,560 and really get into the focus of getting back 615 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,880 into the schools to educate children on recycling, 616 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,600 'cause, you know, they're there at the parks 617 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,480 with their parents, 618 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,760 and then when something goes to go in a can, 619 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160 they can say, no, you know, Mom and Dad, you know, 620 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000 your water bottle goes in the blue can, 621 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,960 and your regular trash goes in the green can, 622 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,160 and this is why. 623 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960 So it's something that we'll continue to work on, 624 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,880 or are gonna continue to work on. 625 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,800 - Brooke, if you can find us a million dollar grant 626 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,160 for trash receptacles, that'd be fantastic. 627 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:12,160 - You know how I feel about our trash cans through the parks? 628 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,680 - Yeah, they are ugly. 629 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680 - These are the worst trash cans. 630 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,320 - Yeah, they fill up with water. 631 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,000 It's just, yeah, they're not attractive. 632 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800 - Of course, like right around the trash can 633 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200 is just like everything that should be in it, 634 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,800 and I genuinely don't think people are like, 635 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200 I'm so lazy, I'm not gonna stretch my arm. 636 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Yeah, I'll work on that one. 637 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,760 - Any additional concerns, comments, questions? 638 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,720 Well, thank you all for the input, 639 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640 and thank you, Autumn, for being so thorough. 640 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,920 - Thank you. 641 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000 - It's a new group, so we're looking forward 642 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200 to what it can be down the road, 643 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,080 and the Clear Creek Master Plan was done in 2014. 644 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,160 So every five years, you typically wanna address that 645 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,640 and just kind of relook at it. 646 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,040 So we are going to council, we've been negotiating 647 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040 with a, evaluating, negotiating a firm 648 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,480 to come help us finish the Master Plan for the park system. 649 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,080 Since Glenn left, and then COVID, 650 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,000 it's been on hold outside of the trails. 651 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,400 We talked about the past couple meetings. 652 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,400 We are gonna integrate Clear Creek into that, 653 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,200 so we can get that updated 654 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520 and try to continue to move forward. 655 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,960 It's such a major hidden diamond 656 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,080 in our system for the city. 657 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,360 We wanna get more people out there, 658 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,280 and there's gotta be a balance. 659 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,800 We can't have too many people go out there, 660 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,840 'cause then you kind of start a negative impact, 661 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,440 but the more people we can get out there 662 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280 starting utilizing that resource, 663 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,040 the better for the entire city. 664 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,440 - I have actually a couple of questions 665 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,120 regarding Clear Creek. 666 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,880 One is, I've been out there in a couple of weeks, 667 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320 but the last few times I went out there, 668 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,840 the porta potty that's available for people 669 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,600 was just in really bad shape, 670 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,920 and it was quite smelly. 671 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,680 - When you went out there, was there one porta potty or two? 672 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040 - Just one, it was kind of like pushed back. 673 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,320 - Was it gray or red? 674 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,720 We're getting specific. 675 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,680 The reason why. - No, there was only one. 676 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,400 - There was only one, okay. - It was by the parking area. 677 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,520 - And the reason why is because I took to council 678 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,760 a contract to get rid of UnitedSite Services, 679 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000 and now we have Five Star Rentals. 680 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,240 Five Star Rental is a Denton company. 681 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,600 - Yeah, I know, I would- 682 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,320 - And they're very customer-oriented. 683 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,120 They've been great to us so far. 684 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,960 They're the ones that help come in 685 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920 whenever COVID first hit, and we had the laundry trailer. 686 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,320 We helped open up the restrooms. 687 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,160 They had the hand-washing stations. 688 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,720 They've been very good. 689 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,400 UnitedSite Services is no longer with us as a contractor, 690 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,560 but we're having issues with them coming to get their cans. 691 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,280 - See, that's what it seemed like. 692 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,600 It seemed like it wasn't supposed to be used. 693 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,840 - We- - Yeah, that makes sense. 694 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,040 - I have tried since September weekly, 695 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,680 Carlotta sends an email out, 696 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000 and I try to follow that for them to come 697 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,760 and get the rest of their cans. 698 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,120 We're trying to move up the chain with UnitedSite Service, 699 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,520 but we haven't had any luck 700 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,280 actually getting to the top lately. 701 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600 So hopefully they will come and get theirs 702 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,720 because they are very bad. 703 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:26,440 But Five Star Rental does have a new porta potty out there. 704 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,560 It's very clean, and they keep it clean. 705 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440 So that is something that we've worked on 706 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560 trying to get UnitedSite Service out in Five Star- 707 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,160 - What happens if they don't come? 708 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,360 Like, do you have to- 709 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960 - We will eventually make sure it's gone, 710 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,360 but we'll take them. 711 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,200 We've already gotten, we already have two or three 712 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,920 at the service center that we've removed 713 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,000 because of those reasons, 714 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,240 and we're just waiting for them to come get them also. 715 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,240 - That's just terrible. 716 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,080 - Okay, Drew, are they locked, 717 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,440 or can people actually enter them? 718 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,720 - You can enter them, 719 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,040 but they haven't been cleaned since probably September. 720 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,920 - We probably should go ahead 721 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,440 and just put a lock or something on it 722 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,240 so people don't even bother opening it. 723 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,080 - Yeah, so- 724 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,440 - 'Cause they're thinking that we're not maintaining them 725 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520 when we're trying to encourage the company 726 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,760 to come pick them up. 727 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,840 - The last time I was there, 728 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,600 you could smell them down the trail. 729 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,440 - Okay. 730 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,680 - It was pretty bad. 731 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,520 - All right. 732 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,360 - We'll look to go- 733 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,200 - I don't wanna talk about it anymore. 734 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,080 - Sound like a new diet plan to me. 735 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,040 - Alaina, your second question. 736 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,560 - Oh, yes, thank you for reminding me, Princess. 737 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,680 I totally forgot. 738 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,160 When will the rest of the little trails be open? 739 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,280 'Cause you can't, like, I know sometimes it rains, 740 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,360 and that causes an issue. 741 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,240 But it seems like even when it's dry, 742 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,280 you can't do the full loop out there, 743 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,280 and I was just wondering when I could expect 744 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,880 to be able to do that full loop. 745 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,640 - So we have- - Like the big one 746 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,240 that goes by Elm Fork. 747 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,520 - So our master naturalists are constantly, 748 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,040 in fact, they're there today, 749 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000 and they're normally there on Mondays and Thursdays 750 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,360 helping get our trails open, 751 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,760 whether that's helping us clear trails, 752 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520 helping to make sure that they're closed 753 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,440 when they need to be closed due to the weather or rain. 754 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,720 But as you know, it was great this summer when it was hot. 755 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,480 Most of those trails are shaded, 756 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,040 so you get a little beat of the heat out in those trails. 757 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,480 That does cause an issue for them to dry. 758 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,720 They don't dry in there as quickly 759 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:25,960 because they don't get the sunlight 760 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,200 that some of our other trails do. 761 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,400 So we are working on that. 762 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,120 Gary, myself, and Autumn, we've gone through and looked at, 763 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,720 like we said, it's in parks now, park maintenance, 764 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,400 and it's going to help make sure that we can kind of 765 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,880 update those trails and get them 766 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,680 to where we can get those open quicker. 767 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,520 I can't give you an answer right now, 768 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,760 but I can look at that and send you an answer next Monday 769 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480 on when we anticipate those trails opening up, 770 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,880 especially we've had quite a bit of dry weather lately. 771 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,880 - The one issue was the constant flooding 772 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,840 of some of those trails. 773 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360 And I guess it could be a point where 774 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,360 I don't know if the dam clearing 775 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,600 made a significant impact on that or not. 776 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,040 But we've talked about even elevated trails 777 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,040 if we have to in certain areas. 778 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,720 That's obviously a long-term, 779 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,440 that's probably a grant project. 780 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,640 You can add that to your list, Brooke, 781 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,520 but that's the most expensive trail that we can build 782 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,040 in that, or trying to open up the air above the trail 783 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,280 to try to get some more sunlight on it. 784 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,600 So that's a challenge on some of those trails 785 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,560 with how low they are. 786 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,400 And obviously we haven't been able to open up 787 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,800 the 380 parking lot too. 788 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,200 - Do you have a question for you specifically? 789 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,440 Did you work on the River Legacy Park 790 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,960 when you were in Arlington? 791 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,040 - That was not my area. 792 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,880 Park maintenance was a different AD. 793 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,520 I did have some, we did programming out there 794 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,200 and we did do the paddling trail 795 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,160 that is at River Legacy as well. 796 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,080 But yes, that was part of our park inventory. 797 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,440 There was a nonprofit that ran the Science Center 798 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,520 and they handled that and they did some of their own camps, 799 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,000 but we did all park maintenance and programming 800 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,120 within the park itself. 801 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,080 And that entire park would flood 802 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,080 and be under six, eight feet of water once or twice a year. 803 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600 It would be up to the roofs on the pavilions 804 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,520 and we'd have to shut it down for a week or two 805 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,280 and then go back in there and clean it up. 806 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,160 So there was a significant amount of water in that park 807 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,880 when we had major rainstorms. 808 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080 - Actually, I grew up going to that park. 809 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,960 We grew up in Ulysses, right next to it. 810 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,320 - Yeah, it's definitely a destination park. 811 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,280 I think the President Bush had been out there a few times 812 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,440 riding the mountain bike trails. 813 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,680 - That's cool. 814 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,680 Okay, I have one last comment and I'll stop you guys. 815 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,560 I just wanted to say, I recently saw the Quarry Trail. 816 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,280 I guess it's almost finished or it is finished. 817 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,200 It's awesome. 818 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,440 They did a really great job with that one. 819 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,800 Those of you who don't know what the Quarry Trail is, 820 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920 I'll let y'all explain it, 821 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,040 but it's, what is it the Master Naturalist put it in? 822 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080 I'll stop, go ahead. 823 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,280 - Just to add to that, 824 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920 the one thing that we are looking to change 825 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,360 is the North parking lot. 826 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,640 There's a restroom facility up there 827 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,640 and a gravel parking lot. 828 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,400 And that for the most part, it's been closed and locked. 829 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,760 We wanna get into a routine where that's open 830 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040 on a regular basis as well. 831 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520 And that restroom facility is open as well. 832 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560 We're speaking of restrooms. 833 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,000 And across the street, there's 240 acres, 834 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,000 230 some acres that we have the ability to utilize 835 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,320 through our utility department. 836 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,080 And we're currently building mountain bike trails out there 837 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,280 that will be dedicated for mountain biking. 838 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,400 When we open up that parking lot on the North side, 839 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,160 we're gonna have the mountain bikers park there. 840 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,920 And then there'll be a trail to go up across the street 841 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,000 where they can get in and start the mountain bike trail. 842 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560 So we had a group of volunteers go out 843 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480 and start marking it two weeks ago. 844 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,960 And we marked about two to three miles of trails. 845 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,600 And then we have another marking day on the 20th, 846 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,400 which is the Friday of this week to go out there 847 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,320 and mark some more trails. 848 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,120 It'll probably take us two or three more days 849 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,040 to get everything done. 850 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,640 We're somewhere around seven miles of trails 851 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,280 that we envision out there. 852 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,840 And then it'll be a community build. 853 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,360 So we'll be depending on volunteers to go out there 854 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,480 and help clear the areas for the mountain bike trails. 855 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,040 We have a few of our master naturalists 856 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,800 helping on it as well, 857 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,360 as well as some of our mountain bike enthusiasts 858 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,280 that we've been working with on our focus groups 859 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,880 and some of our store owners as well are helping. 860 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,440 So we don't have a dedicated funding source for it. 861 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,920 So it's what equity is what's gonna build that. 862 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,640 But so that's also gonna help us maintain that restroom 863 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,480 and improve that parking lot area too, 864 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,880 'cause it doesn't get as much use as it should. 865 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,880 And now that we have that open, 866 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,200 that should open up those trails on the north side too, 867 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,960 'cause there's some nice trails north of that parking lot 868 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,000 that you can go out and enjoy that are just grass trails 869 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,160 that are out in the open. 870 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,080 So that's expanding really our programming opportunities 871 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,240 for that park. 872 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,920 - Okay, I got a question about- 873 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,760 - Yes, Brooke. 874 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,040 - So we were just out there and I was curious 875 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,640 if you had any plans on building little bridges 876 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080 that cross over like some of the little 877 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,320 creek ways that come through. 878 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,280 I don't mind crossing them however my dog does 879 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,240 and he gets very wet. 880 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:04,520 - Are you talking about Clear Creek 881 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,080 or at the mountain bike? 882 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,640 - Yes, yes we do. 883 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,920 We're working with a master nationalist now. 884 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,480 We do have a Boy Scout, 885 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520 two Boy Eagle Scout projects going on. 886 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,520 One is almost complete. 887 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,120 The other one just got started 888 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,200 and then the master naturalist is gonna build another bridge 889 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,760 to cross some of those wet areas. 890 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,080 Yes, the south side of the lake, 891 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,400 I guess that one got washed away. 892 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,240 - Yes. 893 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:36,280 - Okay, and Autumn, I thought of a question. 894 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:42,560 The tree giveaway, is that still an event that will occur? 895 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,320 - Yes, we just hosted the tree giveaway last month 896 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160 on the 24th that we talked about 897 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,240 that being a COVID ready event. 898 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:57,880 There were very few adjustments that we had to make 899 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920 but we see that continuing 900 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,240 and we've even discussed the possibility 901 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,800 of maybe hosting a second one in the spring 902 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,360 depending on funding. 903 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,680 But seeing as how that's a drive through, 904 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,220 distanced, great way to get people trees to plant, 905 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,240 we will continue that. 906 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:21,080 - I usually receive an email 907 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,680 'cause I have been on the list, 908 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,320 but I did not receive one. 909 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,200 Do I need to re-register? 910 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,720 What's the process for people to find out about the trees? 911 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,920 - I can check on that for you and send you an email, Frances. 912 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,760 I'm sorry that you didn't receive that. 913 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,720 - I'm actually also someone, 914 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,400 I've gotten a tree like four years now 915 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,060 and I did not get one this year 916 00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:47,080 because I had no idea that it happened until afterwards. 917 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,920 - Okay, yeah. 918 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,360 So we've scheduled registrations 919 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,560 then every year on October 1st, 920 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,040 but I will check on both of your registrations 921 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,680 or subscriptions to our newsletter. 922 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,720 You should have gotten it. 923 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:02,840 Unless you randomly hit unsubscribe, 924 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,920 that sometimes happens. 925 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,320 I will say, I did get it. 926 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,240 So I did not get a tree, 927 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:11,080 but I did get it. 928 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,920 Thank you, Autumn. 929 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,160 - Utility, don't they send it in with the utilities? 930 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,000 - They do. 931 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,560 - You get your utility bill and you get that newsletter. 932 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,000 I saw it in there and remember long ago, 933 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360 but I have seen it in there. 934 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,080 - Yeah, it was in the Citizen Connection 935 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,460 that you're talking about in the resident update 936 00:46:28,460 --> 00:46:30,080 that went out as well. 937 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,800 But definitely we wanna make sure 938 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,960 that you guys are getting those direct emails from us 939 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,800 so we have the best, most accurate information. 940 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,640 - Autumn, can we just, 941 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,360 can we see if we can get all of the park board registered? 942 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,360 Just make sure everyone is on that list. 943 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,960 It was very successful this year and fun, so. 944 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,540 - I have one question. 945 00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:53,600 Everybody's talking about the trails 946 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,980 and I think they're awesome. 947 00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:59,880 Is there any way on the website, 948 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,760 when you click on the trails 949 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,900 on the park, Denton Parks and Rec website, 950 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:09,520 it's not really user friendly 951 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,380 for someone who's not from Denton, like me. 952 00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:15,840 You've got a lot of people moving to the city 953 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,820 from California and all over the country. 954 00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:24,660 So maybe a map that talks about the walking trails 955 00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:28,140 and the bike trails that are, 956 00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:31,400 that the city offers. 957 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,160 - It's on our list. - On the website. 958 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,080 - Yeah, we-- - And maybe even 959 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,140 in visitor center. 960 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,240 - That's been on our list. 961 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:43,280 We've been talking about it for the past year 962 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,500 to get that updated. 963 00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:48,040 We actually, earlier this summer, 964 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,960 we had a couple of volunteers go out 965 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,120 and ride all of our major trails 966 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,880 with their bike with a camera. 967 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,940 So staff's been editing that 968 00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,040 and I saw the first proof last week 969 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,980 where it's kind of going fast forward along the trails 970 00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:05,440 and then it gives you little tidbits of information 971 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,680 and facts as you're riding. 972 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,600 So you can kind of see 973 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,440 and it shows you a map where you're at. 974 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,640 So that should be coming out real soon. 975 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,520 So that's good timing on the question, 976 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,040 but we do have it on our list of things to do 977 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,480 is improve the website with our trails. 978 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,600 - Bike sales are up. 979 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,320 That's all over the news. - Absolutely. 980 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,160 Yeah. 981 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,320 - Bike sales and kayaks. 982 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,180 - I love your idea. 983 00:48:29,180 --> 00:48:35,720 The trail, what they did in the environment 984 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:36,560 was pretty clever. 985 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,880 They had actually some boy scouts 986 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,220 and I think even a girl scout or two got involved 987 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:44,880 and they put, not only did they put a map together, 988 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,920 but they put it so you could get to GPS court 989 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,840 and so you can put your cell phone and follow the trail 990 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,600 and it shows you where you're going in real time on a GPS. 991 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,800 So that's pretty cool. 992 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:03,920 And they just got kids to do it for them. 993 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,720 You'd be surprised what these kids can do today. 994 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:06,560 - Yeah. 995 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,220 - Okay, anything else before we move to the next item? 996 00:49:12,220 --> 00:49:14,840 All right. 997 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,320 Thank you again, Autumn. 998 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,820 Next item, receive a report, hold a discussion 999 00:49:21,820 --> 00:49:25,320 and give staff input regarding the naming applications 1000 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,280 for parks and trails as submitted by residents, 1001 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,360 local developers and the parks and recreation department. 1002 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,960 - Okay, let me go ahead and bring that up. 1003 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,960 (pages rustling) 1004 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,240 I don't have a PowerPoint, 1005 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:46,840 but I'm gonna open up the AIS that we can follow. 1006 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:53,820 I'm sure you remember we've talked about it a number of times 1007 00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:58,820 over the past year in regard to updating the policy 1008 00:49:58,820 --> 00:50:04,840 for the naming within our park system of parks and facilities. 1009 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,920 And during the past year, we've had a number 1010 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,280 of community groups and developers reach out to us 1011 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,280 about naming of a few of our parks and fields. 1012 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,840 During this process to get the policy approved, 1013 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,440 we asked them to hold off and submit it 1014 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,320 once it was completed. 1015 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,200 So once it was finalized, 1016 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,960 we did reach out to everybody that had talked to us 1017 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040 over the past year and asked them to go ahead 1018 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,760 and resubmit or actually submit an application. 1019 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,360 And that was part of the process 1020 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,300 is to get an application together that they could fill out 1021 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:44,920 and turn into the city. 1022 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,920 So we have received a total of five applications 1023 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,660 from the community. 1024 00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:55,680 And we've submitted parks and recreation 1025 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,720 a number of submittals as well. 1026 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:02,360 So the process, if you remember, 1027 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,640 is that the application submitted goes to the city manager's 1028 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,560 office or the department. 1029 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,320 I've turned those into the city manager's office, 1030 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,520 and the next would go to city council. 1031 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,080 So we plan on going back to city council 1032 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:21,080 after the first of the year to present the applications 1033 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,120 and walk through that process. 1034 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,520 City council have to create a ad hoc committee. 1035 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,440 There would be a member or two from park board 1036 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,600 because that's the most impacted department. 1037 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,040 And then council would form that subcommittee, 1038 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,840 they would go through the applications 1039 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,360 and then provide recommendations 1040 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,560 back to the park board and city council. 1041 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,360 So that's the process. 1042 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,960 It's the first time we're gonna go through it as a group. 1043 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,200 So there may be some learning opportunities during this, 1044 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,080 but we're gonna wait until the entire city council 1045 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,440 was seated. 1046 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,160 So we kind of took that first step with the formal council 1047 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,040 that would be in place for the next two years. 1048 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,640 But applications that were submitted from the community 1049 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,120 was for the Carnegie Ridge property, 1050 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,880 and that was provided by the developers. 1051 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,160 They wanted to name it Patrick Park after their father, 1052 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,120 who was a local teacher. 1053 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,440 Baseball fields one and two at Evers Park 1054 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,640 were submitted by Denton Baseball Association. 1055 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,720 And those were two names after, 1056 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:28,880 and I can make this a little larger 1057 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,040 so it might be easier for you guys to see. 1058 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,960 And that was Austin Jackson and Javi Guerra, 1059 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,480 I think is the pronunciation. 1060 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,800 They were both former Denton ballplayers. 1061 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,000 They played through the program and they both played in MLB. 1062 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,160 Guerra was actually on the Washington nationals 1063 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,360 two years ago when they won the world series. 1064 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,160 So they asked to name the fields after those players. 1065 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,280 And then Industrial Street Park used to be 1066 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,240 Wolf's Hardware Store, Grocery, I'm sorry, Grocery. 1067 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:07,440 And actually was submitted by one of our employees 1068 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,280 who's a family related to that family, so that property. 1069 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,160 So that was a real interesting kind of tie back 1070 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,000 to what that property was used at one point in time. 1071 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,640 And then Razor Ranch property was submitted 1072 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,000 by the developers to name that park Razor Ranch Park. 1073 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,200 So those are the five applications 1074 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,880 that came from the community. 1075 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,000 And then the ones that we submitted, 1076 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,600 the Mills property is planned to be a city park. 1077 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,680 And that's typically a park that's 50 acres or more. 1078 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,360 And we were trying to come up with a theme 1079 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,320 for all our city parks to be named after something, 1080 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,320 Direction Lake Park and North Lakes Park, South Lakes Park. 1081 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,360 And this one would be East Lake Park 1082 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,320 to obviously give you the geographic location 1083 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,880 and kind of set that brand of, 1084 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,960 oh, that's a lake park, 1085 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,080 that must mean it's something of significance. 1086 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,480 There's roughly a four acre pond there, a body of water. 1087 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,480 So that was the rationale for East Lake Park. 1088 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,400 And then all of the trails, well, 1089 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640 we haven't formally named all of our trails. 1090 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,800 We thought it would be good 1091 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,480 while we're working through the master plan 1092 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,480 and we're calling these trails certain things 1093 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,280 to go ahead and get them formally adopted 1094 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,280 and then work into some of those trails as they're built. 1095 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,120 Bonnie Bray is already under construction. 1096 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,160 Cooper Creek already has some trails completed. 1097 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,240 Hickory Creek is under construction right now. 1098 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:46,640 Mayhill is, for the most part, completed. 1099 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,760 Mingo is in portions of that are in the planning stage. 1100 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,280 Same with Pecan Creek. 1101 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,680 University Trail is gonna have a section east of Mayhill. 1102 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,000 That's gonna be worked on by Textot over to the bridge. 1103 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,120 And then Vintage Trail is under construction 1104 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,520 and Wildflower Trail already exists. 1105 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,320 We weren't sure if that was formally adopted or not. 1106 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,760 That's in North Lakes Park. 1107 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,560 So we wanted to just go ahead and formally request that. 1108 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,560 This doesn't mean there's not more trails 1109 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,200 that we could be adding to that, 1110 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,360 but we wanted to try to get a critical mass 1111 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,160 of applications together at one time 1112 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,560 since an ad hoc committee has to be created 1113 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,440 that we weren't going back piecemeal 1114 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,680 a little bit at a time 1115 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,280 and that process is gonna be cumbersome 1116 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,200 to try to do a number at one time. 1117 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,440 So that was the thought process 1118 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,640 in regards to taking these all to the committee 1119 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,120 and to you and the city council, 1120 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,680 but wanted to get your feedback on any of these 1121 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,440 if you have any questions or concern. 1122 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,680 We still have to move forward with city council 1123 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,720 and we'll definitely include any reluctancy 1124 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:50,080 or concerns you have with any of these names 1125 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,200 and the rationale based on direction 1126 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,480 from the board as a whole and kind of go from there. 1127 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:05,280 - Gary, I have a question. 1128 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,160 Can you stop sharing so we can see each other? 1129 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,000 - Oh yes, yep. 1130 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,880 - The Industrial Street Park, 1131 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,800 I would love to hear additional information 1132 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,960 behind the family, the Wolfs. 1133 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,400 I would just love to hear the history. 1134 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,680 - Okay. 1135 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,000 - We used to receive this information, 1136 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,520 but I know since COVID, everything has kind of changed, 1137 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,920 but we really, I think the board really needs 1138 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,880 to continue to get information. 1139 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,880 And I understand why you had to put it on hold 1140 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200 and put them all together. 1141 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,040 I do understand that. 1142 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,720 But I do would like additional information 1143 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:54,720 about the Industrial Street Park name being changed to, 1144 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,720 what was it, Wolfs? 1145 00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:01,560 - Wolfs, on the attachment that's in your packet 1146 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,560 on page 10, there's a summary of the history of Wolfs. 1147 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:12,520 It was a food store from 1947 to 1997. 1148 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,360 The store was located at 109 Industrial, 1149 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,960 Wolf's food store was named after Robert Wolf 1150 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,760 who opened the store in 1947. 1151 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,520 The store then changed ownerships 1152 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,240 from Robert to Walter Wolf in 1948, 1153 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,960 and then to Paul Wolf in 1951. 1154 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,080 In 1959, Grady Gandy bought the store 1155 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,240 from his father-in-law, Paul Wolf. 1156 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,080 Grady kept the store name of Wolf's food store 1157 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,840 to avoid any confusion. 1158 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,040 Many customers continued to call Mr. Gandy, Mr. Wolf 1159 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,520 as he bought the store. 1160 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,440 Many in the community still remember Mr. Gandy's smile, 1161 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,280 laugh and witty humor. 1162 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,920 He was known as a bit of a jokester 1163 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,520 and loved to make people laugh. 1164 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,280 He was a huge part of the Denton community 1165 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,120 and helped many people simply giving advice, 1166 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,680 food or a part-time job. 1167 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,040 Grady Gandy enjoyed being a part of the community 1168 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,600 and never asked for anything in return. 1169 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,240 He was extremely genuine and loved his neighbors. 1170 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,200 Wolf's food store was featured many times 1171 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,040 in Denton Record Chronicle highlighting the longtime success 1172 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,880 of the small grocery store in a time 1173 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,360 where big box stores were moving into the city. 1174 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,160 Whether the store's success was due 1175 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,920 to Mr. Gandy's unstoppable work ethic 1176 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,440 or his contribution to so many lives in Denton 1177 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,360 and surrounding towns, he had an infectious energy 1178 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,760 to anyone that knew him. 1179 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480 The store centered on the Wolfs and Gandy's family, 1180 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,760 but Wolf's customers were considered 1181 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,920 Mr. Gandy's extended family. 1182 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,160 This was shown in his unwillingness 1183 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,680 to let people give up themselves, 1184 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,400 to let people give up, not to give up on themselves. 1185 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,280 He was a model of what hard work and love is 1186 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,880 for his community could produce. 1187 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,720 Mr. Gandy was never a rich man in terms of financial wealth, 1188 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,280 but was rich in family and friends. 1189 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,360 The community felt the absence 1190 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,240 when he unexpectedly passed away in February, 1997. 1191 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,400 Although he is gone, 1192 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,400 his love and laugh will never be forgotten. 1193 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,400 So that's in your packet on page 10 1194 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,680 as part of the application that was submitted. 1195 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:17,160 - Yes, I see that now. 1196 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,480 - And then one other thing, 1197 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,320 when John and I met with the DWI group, 1198 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,840 they mentioned Wolf's Food Store 1199 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,600 whenever we spoke to them about Industrial Park. 1200 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,320 And they talked about meeting there 1201 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,680 and getting things to eat and having lunch together. 1202 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,360 So it was good to hear about that place, 1203 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,960 especially knowing we were coming before you 1204 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,560 to maybe future change the name. 1205 00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:00,320 - So, any feedback in regards to any of the proposed names? 1206 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:14,520 - Are we going to receive information from the public? 1207 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:22,040 - So, obviously this is the first time we've done this. 1208 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,200 So we'll be putting an ad hoc committee together. 1209 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,720 They'll review the applications. 1210 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,560 We definitely could have a public meeting. 1211 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,960 It probably is a good recommendation to have that 1212 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,760 during that review process. 1213 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,960 So people could chime in 1214 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,040 and people could actually come and present their pitch 1215 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,040 if they wanted to in regards to the name 1216 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,040 and kind of go from there 1217 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,080 and use that as part of the consideration. 1218 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,240 So we definitely could do that. 1219 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,720 - I think that's a really good idea. 1220 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,400 Yeah, I like that idea. 1221 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,600 - Thank you. 1222 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,800 - We will incorporate that. 1223 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,880 - One of the ideas that we had years ago 1224 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,480 was that the small pocket, 1225 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,360 I'm not talking about the bigger parks. 1226 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,280 I think the process here is a good one in general, 1227 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,360 but like for pocket parks that are where local neighborhoods 1228 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,320 could be a playground, 1229 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:17,320 it's mostly going to be utilized by the local neighborhood. 1230 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,080 One of the things that worked really, really well 1231 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,640 was to go out and get, go around the neighborhoods 1232 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:26,640 and get nominations for the names for naming the park. 1233 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,640 You get the whole, 1234 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,400 that way you get the whole community involved 1235 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,680 in actually being part of the process 1236 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,960 by just going out and asking door to door. 1237 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,320 And anyway, so I just, this is a suggestion. 1238 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,680 And then once the nomination, you get the top one, 1239 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,840 vote on which ones people like the best 1240 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,960 and the second round. 1241 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,320 And then eventually they come up with a name 1242 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,720 for the park that they named 1243 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,120 and then it's part of their park. 1244 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,160 But that is a bad news. 1245 01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,560 We actually have people who, 1246 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,520 one of the daycare brought their kids over 1247 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,200 and the people try to chase them out 1248 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,640 because they said that this is our park. 1249 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,880 You know, we got a little too possessive, but that's okay. 1250 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,240 - That's a good point. 1251 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,640 The one thing that we are not sure of 1252 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:18,080 is what parks have been officially named or not. 1253 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,240 So we have a staff member 1254 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,160 that's gonna be working with the library 1255 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,680 and a city volunteer that Heather had worked with 1256 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,720 during this process of the policy development, 1257 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:32,840 that they were reaching out to her 1258 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,360 to see if she would be interested in helping 1259 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,480 and going back and doing research 1260 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,200 on the parcels that we already have. 1261 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,080 Our gut feeling is that some of these properties 1262 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,520 were named by staff. 1263 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,400 Just as they were kind of going, hey, this is on this road 1264 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,600 and we'll just call it that kind of as a placeholder. 1265 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,280 And we've had a little bit of a discussion 1266 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,720 about this in the past. 1267 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,120 And all of a sudden it just became Sherman Open Space 1268 01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,960 where there was no, 1269 01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:03,200 'cause it just was on Sherman Drive or road. 1270 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,840 And so those names just stuck. 1271 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,640 So we need to go back and see 1272 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,240 if some of those have been formally adopted 1273 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,480 so we could say these X number of parks 1274 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,280 are available in the future for the community to consider. 1275 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,960 The ones that were suggested are basically new parcels 1276 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,200 or new things that are coming together. 1277 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,520 So I can't give you or we can't give you a clear list 1278 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,000 of what is available to the community 1279 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,720 outside something that might be brand new. 1280 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,520 So we're going back to try to find that. 1281 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,360 So once we get to that point, we definitely could say, 1282 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,880 here's a list of all the parks that are available. 1283 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,040 And if you have somebody that lives in that neighborhood 1284 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,880 or we're just an important person in Denton, 1285 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,280 then you could suggest naming for that parcel. 1286 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,880 But so we need to kind of go back 1287 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,440 and do a little bit of research to see what is available. 1288 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,520 And that's something that we're trying to get started up 1289 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,440 with the library. 1290 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:09,200 - Additional concerns, questions, comments? 1291 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,880 Okay, if you can add our concerns, Gary, 1292 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,120 to your presentation, we'd greatly appreciate it. 1293 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:19,960 - Okay. 1294 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,680 - Next item, receive a report, hold a discussion 1295 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,040 and give staff input regarding the potential leasing 1296 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,600 of a 3.5 acres property at 308 Bradley Street, 1297 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,600 the former site of Veterans Village 1298 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,400 and Bradley Street Apartments. 1299 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:42,120 - Okay, I'm going to bring up the PowerPoint 1300 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,800 that we presented originally in June of 2019 1301 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,400 and use that as a reference point. 1302 01:04:49,400 --> 01:05:03,800 I'm not sure if everybody on the committee was here 1303 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,560 at this time, but I'll just go through real quick. 1304 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,440 So this parcel is on Bradley, Bradley Street, 1305 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,960 just off of Oak, used to be a Veterans Village. 1306 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,320 And most recently it was an apartment complex. 1307 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,800 In relation to some other parks, 1308 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,120 you can see where McKenna Park is, 1309 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,720 it's pretty much a large block or two or three blocks away. 1310 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,520 And then Razor Ranch property is just a little bit 1311 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:31,640 to the Northwest. 1312 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,840 Some general facts, it's 3.5 acres. 1313 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,760 It is the former site of Veterans Village 1314 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,640 and I'll show you what that looked like. 1315 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,800 It was used for temporary housing during World War II, 1316 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,560 after World War II when the veterans came back for school 1317 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,040 and there were 50 hutments, 1318 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,320 there were small homes that were on that property. 1319 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,480 This is what that property looked like at the time. 1320 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,680 You could see these little buildings here, 1321 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,040 that's where the veterans, 1322 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,120 the students that came back where they lived. 1323 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,120 Campus is over in this area. 1324 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,440 This is what it looks like right now. 1325 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,000 It was being used as a lay down area 1326 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,080 for some construction activity off of Bradley. 1327 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,640 There's a chain link fence and just some open space 1328 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,080 that people could go out there and utilize. 1329 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,880 We'd come up with some draft kind of concept plans 1330 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,960 with the loop trail, taking the existing parking 1331 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,040 and putting some trees in there. 1332 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,640 Very minimal improvements, 1333 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,800 maybe a pavilion at one point in time. 1334 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,440 We have to make sure it's ADA compliant. 1335 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,040 So we integrated some Monarch Way Stations, 1336 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,600 pollinator gardens, 1337 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,440 working with volunteers and the Historical Association 1338 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,560 to help even with trail development 1339 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,320 and trying to get some veterans out there 1340 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,040 to help build the trails. 1341 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,400 Original concept was about $80,000 or so 1342 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,120 to do some of those improvements. 1343 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,960 This was, I guess, probably two years ago 1344 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,240 at this point in time. 1345 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,920 It did not include the lighting, irrigation, 1346 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,640 those types of things. 1347 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,920 It was just really the core basics. 1348 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,200 A pavilion of this nature, a crushed granite trail, 1349 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,200 all pending on volunteer assistance, 1350 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,000 and then maybe an interpretive panel 1351 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,720 about the history of that space with the Hutmans 1352 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,320 and World War II veterans coming back. 1353 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,280 At the time, we were talking to UNT 1354 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,840 and they were trying to figure out 1355 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,600 what their long-term plan is for that property, 1356 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,440 and they're still working on that actually. 1357 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,880 And after the first of the year, 1358 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,120 Public Affairs is gonna be working with them 1359 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,720 to figure out how they can get community input 1360 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,400 on that process before they made any decisions. 1361 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,600 So I think I have a meeting later this week 1362 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,160 to meet with Public Affairs on next steps 1363 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,680 in regards to that. 1364 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,000 So that's gonna happen after the holidays. 1365 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,240 So until then, there really isn't gonna be any movement 1366 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,960 until they go through that process. 1367 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,080 We did take the proposal to City Council, 1368 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,920 not this fiscal year, but the fiscal year prior, 1369 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,520 and that wasn't funded. 1370 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,320 So the project was kind of just put on hold 1371 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,320 since there was no funding allocated. 1372 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,920 And then this year, COVID hit 1373 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,760 and we didn't submit anything. 1374 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,600 I think we had one supplemental that we submitted 1375 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,920 since the budget was a concern. 1376 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,440 So it's been on hold since that point of time, 1377 01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:22,720 but Park Board asked for an update. 1378 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,880 So that's where the project is as of right now, 1379 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,240 waiting for final decision 1380 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,280 on the long-term use of that property. 1381 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,200 Originally, we had talked about a 10-year lease with UNT, 1382 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,480 and that's where that property stands to date. 1383 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:49,080 - Thank you, Gary. 1384 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,480 Questions, concerns? 1385 01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:55,160 All right. 1386 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,040 The next agenda item and the last one 1387 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,320 is to receive a report, hold a discussion, 1388 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,960 and give staff input regarding the placement 1389 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,440 and status of public art projects. 1390 01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:14,240 - Okay, let me bring up a presentation for you. 1391 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,040 Just to kind of introduce this, 1392 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:20,120 public art was in parks and recreation, 1393 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,800 and it was moved over to economic development 1394 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,800 probably in early 2018, late 2017, that timeframe. 1395 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,400 And it was an economic development up until this summer, 1396 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,880 actually late fall, early fall. 1397 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,760 So it was moved back to parks and recreation. 1398 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,600 It's part of an overall plan that has a landscape architect 1399 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,400 and a park planning manager 1400 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,120 as new positions within the park system. 1401 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,400 Those staff members report to Drew 1402 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,720 as part of our parks planning and operations team. 1403 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,280 We're trying to get those positions hired as we speak. 1404 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,800 But in the meantime, John Whitmore, who's our program area 1405 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,800 manager oversees our aquatics division, 1406 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,240 hired himself to help us, or maybe was voluntold himself, 1407 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,760 to help us with the public art projects. 1408 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,320 We had a number that were on the books 1409 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,920 but needed to get started. 1410 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,840 And he's done a great job 1411 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,160 in kind of pushing those efforts forward. 1412 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,600 So we can go through and give you an update 1413 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,000 kind of where things are. 1414 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,000 The original request was what's the process 1415 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,280 to get art into the parks? 1416 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,640 When we started the tennis center 1417 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,880 and the dog park in Vela, 1418 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,640 we went to the public art committee 1419 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:38,880 and asked them if they'd be interested 1420 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,640 in putting art in those facilities. 1421 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,280 A number of park systems will have X number of dollars 1422 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,280 dedicated towards art, maybe on a construction project, 1423 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,640 which the city has in the past. 1424 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,480 Or they just find a way to put some piece of art out there 1425 01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:56,320 just to kind of add to the culture of the facilities. 1426 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,240 So that was kind of some of our thoughts. 1427 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,560 And we have a couple of ideas, 1428 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,040 but we'll go through the presentation 1429 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,880 and then just open it up for discussion if that's okay. 1430 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:12,920 John, would you like to lead this 1431 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,480 or would you like me to, or Drew or I? 1432 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:20,720 - I think we can all contribute, I'm sure. 1433 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,040 - Okay, okay. 1434 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:28,160 - So economic development put together a map 1435 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,760 of where all the art is. 1436 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,480 And this was just a snapshot of that 1437 01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:34,480 to give you a sense of where it is. 1438 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,080 There's obviously a large cluster of art 1439 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,480 in the downtown area, 1440 01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,520 but we do have it in various areas 1441 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,080 within the park system as well. 1442 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,080 South Lakes, North Lakes, being two of them the airport. 1443 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,920 And then we have some that are just a little off the map here 1444 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,760 at the Natatorium as well. 1445 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,360 So ultimately the thought is to start spreading those out 1446 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,280 throughout the city. 1447 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,080 So it's not heavy in one area, 1448 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,920 but obviously with downtown being what it is, 1449 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,640 there's gonna be a cluster of art there. 1450 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,920 So definitely trying to get art in new locations 1451 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,520 is definitely a part of the mindset. 1452 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:15,520 The blue are sculptures and the red are murals of sorts. 1453 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,200 North Lake Dog Park, this is a project 1454 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,240 that John has been working on. 1455 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,800 We built this pad at the middle of the three circles 1456 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,760 of the dog park to put a piece of art on there. 1457 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,360 We were in the middle of construction, 1458 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,000 but we didn't have the piece of art yet. 1459 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,400 So that is still being worked through the subcommittee 1460 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,280 of the Public Art Committee to get selected. 1461 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,840 And John is working on that RFP right now as we speak. 1462 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:56,080 The Vela Athletic Complex, we had put a pad in this pad 1463 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,680 right here, this little cube during the construction process 1464 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,680 with the anticipation of putting a piece of art out there. 1465 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:09,680 And we met with the Vela family and with Dr. Vela 1466 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:15,280 being a biologist at UNT and loved community 1467 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,400 and loved soccer, they asked if they could have that theme 1468 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,560 kind of tied into the piece of art. 1469 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,560 So we put together an RFP and sent it out and it came back 1470 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,760 based off of the theme that you're asking for 1471 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,520 and the size, basically the scope that it wasn't feasible 1472 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,560 with the budget we had. 1473 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,360 So we did have some extra money left over 1474 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,080 from the Vela Athletic Complex of $65,000. 1475 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,680 Got $1,000 from the Park Foundation 1476 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,680 to go towards that project. 1477 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,000 And John put together the RFP again, resubmitted 1478 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,480 to the selected artists that the pack had selected. 1479 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,200 And this is what he came back. 1480 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,560 And it's basically a trophy with the molecules 1481 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,480 as the brass, the balls in the center. 1482 01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:05,280 There's a star in the middle that you can't see for Texas. 1483 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,880 And then the frame of the molecules 1484 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,600 is actually the panels of a soccer ball. 1485 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,440 So they were able to tie that all together. 1486 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:16,880 It's polished stainless steel 1487 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,360 and then some brushed stainless steel as well. 1488 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,360 John, is there anything you'd like to add to that? 1489 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,680 - That's just a very impressive interpretation 1490 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,600 of what the public art subcommittee wanted to have happen. 1491 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,000 So it's really very nice. 1492 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,000 I think some of the later pictures that you've got 1493 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,800 helped to show it in perspective, 1494 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,960 looking through the entrance area there. 1495 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,600 - So when you walk through the arch at the building, 1496 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,960 this is what you would see as you approach the playground. 1497 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:52,040 And it'll be reflective with different colors 1498 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,280 and the sun coming off the balls. 1499 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,480 They designed it so kids couldn't climb on it. 1500 01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:00,200 We have talked about maybe putting some flower pots 1501 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,240 or something around the base of it, 1502 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,680 just to soften it up a little bit 1503 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,680 'cause there's a lot of concrete in that space 1504 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,560 along with the building. 1505 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,320 So that was the proposal. 1506 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,280 The public art committee was excited about it 1507 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,400 and we're trying to get it on the agenda for city council. 1508 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:25,240 The tennis center, we have bond or hot funds, 1509 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:30,000 hotel occupancy tax allocated for this project. 1510 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,560 We haven't done anything with this one to date 1511 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,560 just because we're trying to get the tennis center out 1512 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,120 and it wasn't a huge priority to get the tennis center 1513 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,040 out to bid and we're focused on the other priorities 1514 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,520 they had for sculptures. 1515 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,680 So this one was purposely put on hold 1516 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,920 and we're gonna start getting this one going. 1517 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,920 Location would probably make most sense 1518 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,920 if it was near the pro shop where the largest amount 1519 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,920 of gathering will be by people, but that's still to come. 1520 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,240 And we have $35,000 for that. 1521 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,560 That may not be enough either, 1522 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,280 but we'll have to figure out and work on that budget. 1523 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,440 The fire station had some bond funding money 1524 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:13,080 for a piece of art and there was some discussion about it 1525 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,960 being a fence where the fence itself was art. 1526 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,640 After deliberation between the public art committee 1527 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,000 decided that a fence is not art. 1528 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,440 So they're putting up their fence as part of the construction 1529 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,160 of fire station number three 1530 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,720 and that the public art committee will go out for RFPs 1531 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,840 for a piece of art that will be placed in landscaping 1532 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,960 adjacent to the fire station. 1533 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,160 (mouse clicking) 1534 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,440 Foundations of our history is a mural 1535 01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:47,440 that was actually painted on Bonnie Bray a couple of years ago 1536 01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:54,160 and that building was sold and is gonna be torn down. 1537 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,440 So there was discussion on trying to save that mural 1538 01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:01,000 with council, specifically council member. 1539 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,040 And we looked at it and the cost was gonna be 1540 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,400 probably a little bit less than half 1541 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,360 of what this total budget is. 1542 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,920 And the mural was painted on vinyl siding 1543 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,200 and the vinyl siding was old and it wasn't great in shape. 1544 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,920 So we were concerned that just removing it from the building 1545 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,920 was gonna start to fall apart and then putting it in storage 1546 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,080 and to figure out what we're gonna do with it long-term. 1547 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,640 So we actually came up with the idea 1548 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,600 and this was a project that was phase two 1549 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,120 of keep them beautiful plan after they did the mural 1550 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:36,120 on Dallas drive to actually paint this underpass area. 1551 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,160 And if you see it today, 1552 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,400 it's been vandalized a number of times. 1553 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,800 The mural that was painted on Dallas hasn't been. 1554 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,920 We also put a clear coat over that mural too. 1555 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,240 So if someone does something to it, 1556 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,920 we can go back and wash it off and protects that artwork. 1557 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,920 So we have all four kind of the panels on the bridge 1558 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,280 are gonna be painted with foundations of our history, 1559 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,360 the ladies that were instrumental in the community, 1560 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,760 specifically in Southeast Denton. 1561 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,200 And then the areas directly under the bridge 1562 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,000 are gonna be this kind of rust color 1563 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,880 because we still get some rust and water 1564 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,280 that comes off the bridge 1565 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,000 and we didn't want that going over the mural. 1566 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,160 So that's designed to kind of blend into that. 1567 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,040 So Autumn, if you're still with us, 1568 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,080 did you have any comments to add to that? 1569 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,120 - Yes, I'm still here. 1570 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,680 - Okay, I couldn't see my screen. 1571 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,520 I'll have all my, all the video. 1572 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,440 - No, you did. 1573 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:38,880 You provided a good summary of the projects, 1574 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,040 but like Gary mentioned, 1575 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:44,080 it is part of a larger project of beautifying that 1576 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,520 one of the main entrances into Denton 1577 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,540 into the downtown area. 1578 01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:54,600 So we're slated to start this project next week 1579 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:55,480 and get painting. 1580 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:58,760 So keep an eye out as you drive past. 1581 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,240 - So that's that one. 1582 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,640 The MLK Junior Recreation Center is a project 1583 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,160 that's been going on for a few years. 1584 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,800 And the Public Art Committee selected an artist 1585 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,080 and she's known for creating the integration 1586 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:20,040 of places to sit and relax and congregate 1587 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,480 with people as well and figures of people. 1588 01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:26,120 So she came up with this design 1589 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,120 that the Public Art Committee 1590 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,360 and City Council approved. 1591 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,120 It's under construction as we speak. 1592 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,200 It's slated to be installed in September of next year. 1593 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,000 We went over with staff and the artist 1594 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,960 and looked at locations and presented them 1595 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,540 to both council and the Public Art Committee. 1596 01:19:45,540 --> 01:19:48,500 And what we're gonna do is re-landscape this area 1597 01:19:48,500 --> 01:19:50,480 and move this flagpole over closer 1598 01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:53,200 to the entry sign to the rec center 1599 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,160 and make this an area so kids can congregate 1600 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,280 or families while they're waiting. 1601 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,680 Specifically, we're thinking as good place for kids 1602 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,000 when they're waiting for their parents to pick them up. 1603 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,080 This is not, you don't have to cross the road. 1604 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,160 It's right by the front door. 1605 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,300 Staff can kind of still pay attention to them. 1606 01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:12,080 And that'll go in this area. 1607 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,680 And this is something that Drew's guys 1608 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,940 are gonna be working on. 1609 01:20:15,940 --> 01:20:17,920 And then additionally, we looked at a way 1610 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,760 to really beautify and soften up the building. 1611 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,280 If you go out there, it's just a lot of grass and brick. 1612 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,600 There's no really landscaping outside of this 1613 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,420 to really soften it up on both sides. 1614 01:20:30,420 --> 01:20:33,240 So we're gonna try to address up the area 1615 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,560 in front of the gym in the area 1616 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,200 on the far left side of the building 1617 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,640 with some additional landscaping 1618 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,380 to really tie those three areas together. 1619 01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:45,980 We don't necessarily have funding for that, 1620 01:20:45,980 --> 01:20:47,120 but we're gonna try to do that 1621 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,560 after this piece of art is installed 1622 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,760 with some Texas native, you know, drought tolerant plants, 1623 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,040 maybe some river rock type thing, 1624 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,580 give it a little bit of a flare to it. 1625 01:20:58,580 --> 01:21:01,600 - I have one thing to add there, Gary, 1626 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,360 that the Madeline Wiener is the artist 1627 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,800 and that the sculptures are called bench people 1628 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,080 and they're made to sit on. 1629 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,680 So they're actually wide enough 1630 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,560 that two people could probably sit side by side 1631 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,000 in the laps on these particular ones. 1632 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,640 So when he said that it's a gathering place, 1633 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,680 it's literally benches that people can sit on. 1634 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,360 And I enjoy that area. 1635 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,520 And the next one I'll let Drew or John talk about. 1636 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,000 He spent a lot of time on this one here. 1637 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,700 This is Denton Women's Interracial Fellowship. 1638 01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:36,560 - You'll hear this also called the DWIF monument. 1639 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,280 And it's all about the group of women 1640 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,680 through the early '70s that they had formed 1641 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,840 to do a lot of different things. 1642 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,800 One of them was to have actual roads paved, 1643 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,360 but another was to be able to help the schools 1644 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,480 integrate much more effectively. 1645 01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:55,240 And so it was a group of both black and white women 1646 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,640 that formed together for this particular purpose 1647 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,760 and they did a fantastic job. 1648 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,960 And so to be able to honor this particular group, 1649 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,040 we put out a scope of work 1650 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,720 and an RFP for people to come in 1651 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,680 or the artists to come in and do the bid. 1652 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,400 This one here stood out among all of them. 1653 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,340 The others were quite traditional. 1654 01:22:19,340 --> 01:22:21,640 And this one was very colorful 1655 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,640 and it's using a type of glass, 1656 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,440 very heavy duty type of glass, not easily broken. 1657 01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,260 And each has a picture of the different people 1658 01:22:30,260 --> 01:22:34,120 that are involved in the DWIF. 1659 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,640 And it's very interactive. 1660 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,640 It'll use a program on your, an app on your phone. 1661 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,880 And when you just take a picture of it or have it there, 1662 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,560 it automatically calls up the information 1663 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,200 about that person, about what they did, 1664 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,740 their background and various things about their lives 1665 01:22:54,740 --> 01:22:56,700 that will be able to tell the story. 1666 01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:59,840 So this is a destination type of piece. 1667 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,280 This is where they'll have, 1668 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,880 we are pretty sure that school buses 1669 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,320 and other groups from the schools 1670 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,480 will come out and take a look at it. 1671 01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:12,520 This one is currently proposed to be in industrial park. 1672 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,100 They had a couple of locations, 1673 01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:16,760 but after meeting with all the ladies 1674 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,920 that had about a dozen people, 1675 01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,680 either online or in person, 1676 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,600 they unanimously wanted it in industrial park 1677 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,280 and not over in Fred Moore park. 1678 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,320 And so that's the, what we're proposing through. 1679 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,280 And there's some other things 1680 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,200 that I know Drew will be able to talk to you a bit more 1681 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,760 about doing other things in industrial park 1682 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,600 to make sure just like the MLK sculptures 1683 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,840 that will have something to help dress up the park a lot. 1684 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,400 There were other plans, I know that were available for it. 1685 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:50,040 Two quick items on that to just add to John's description. 1686 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:54,480 We did get a grant from the state for this project 1687 01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:59,480 and it was tied to the entertainment district for downtown. 1688 01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:03,160 So it has to be within that area, 1689 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,360 within the downtown area. 1690 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,960 So we're really limited to Quaker Town, Industrial Street, 1691 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:12,960 Fred Moore, and I think that was it from a park space 1692 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,720 or it could have been on the sidewalk 1693 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,560 or in a parking lot type thing. 1694 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,720 But from a park space, 1695 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,400 we're fairly limited in regards 1696 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,560 to where we could use that money. 1697 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,200 So those were kind of the options to start. 1698 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,980 So that's why it wasn't going in any other general areas. 1699 01:24:30,980 --> 01:24:33,020 And they wanted in a location 1700 01:24:33,020 --> 01:24:35,320 where it's gonna get a lot of traffic 1701 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,280 and industrial streets gets more foot traffic 1702 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,880 than Fred Moore does. 1703 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,600 And then other locations for art. 1704 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,080 This is Dallas and Teasley on the left 1705 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,920 and Eagle and Elm on the right. 1706 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,280 And Eagle and Elm has had a few iterations. 1707 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,480 So this one's gonna change a little bit. 1708 01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:58,180 But the Dallas and Teasley one is pretty much what you see. 1709 01:24:58,180 --> 01:25:00,160 We did have a piece of art planned in there. 1710 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,800 That's what that kind of little white, 1711 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,420 whitish gray circle is for. 1712 01:25:04,420 --> 01:25:07,580 And then we're gonna place something in Eagle Drive, 1713 01:25:07,580 --> 01:25:08,640 Eagle and Elm. 1714 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,160 So those two artwork have not been identified yet. 1715 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,960 And then Carroll Boulevard has a trail on it. 1716 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,080 It's part of our trail plan to expand. 1717 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,340 But we thought that would be a good location 1718 01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:27,960 to put trail sculptures that could be leased 1719 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,120 or on loan for the park system. 1720 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,040 So we could have those change maybe every three years 1721 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,560 just to provide a little bit of variety. 1722 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,000 So that was the mindset there that we could have 1723 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,960 three to five pieces of art along Carroll Boulevard. 1724 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,720 And that gets a lot of traffic as well. 1725 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,840 So that was another location 1726 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,840 that we considered for future art. 1727 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:56,700 And at that point, I'll go ahead and stop sharing 1728 01:25:56,700 --> 01:25:58,240 so we can have some discussion. 1729 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:03,720 So there is a master plan that was identified 1730 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,700 and we're gonna go back and look at that 1731 01:26:05,700 --> 01:26:08,120 as part of our master plan process as well 1732 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,680 for art placement and go back 1733 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,760 and make sure the inventory is up to speed 1734 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,320 and have that map public facing 1735 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,320 so they could see where all that is. 1736 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,840 What John had talked about with the technology 1737 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,280 on your phone, similar to a QR code, 1738 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,260 apps now can recognize images. 1739 01:26:27,260 --> 01:26:31,220 So the thought process is that it could be all of our art, 1740 01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:35,040 whether it's a mural or a sculpture. 1741 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:38,800 And then we could also even do that at our cemeteries 1742 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,280 where you could go and scan a headstone 1743 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,280 and it would give you a bio on that person. 1744 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,280 Our historical society is working on our veterans right now 1745 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,840 to do bios for those people and identify those soldiers 1746 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,080 and even some founders of Texas. 1747 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,720 So that's a long-term project. 1748 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,840 But eventually, when people come in for a burial, 1749 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,400 they could have an option to write a bio about that person. 1750 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,400 So that person's history is kind of preserved 1751 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,760 and you can put it on a website similar to Find a Grave. 1752 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,720 And when you brought up your phone, 1753 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,280 your camera would recognize that 1754 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,760 and link you over to Find a Grave 1755 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,760 where that data could be stored. 1756 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,160 And it doesn't cost anything to do that. 1757 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,760 So that's another way that we thought 1758 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,880 that we could take our historical cemeteries 1759 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,320 and really bring them back to life, you know, literally, 1760 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,420 and preserve the history of the people of Denton. 1761 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,480 You know, obviously it's impossible to go back 1762 01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:34,920 and get history on all those people, 1763 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,400 but we can do our best with the people 1764 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,240 that may still have family members here. 1765 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,720 So that we thought that was kind of an interesting project 1766 01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,680 that we could have interns, library staff, 1767 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,760 whoever work on that in the general public as a whole 1768 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,560 help us preserve that history. 1769 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,120 - Thank you, Gary. 1770 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,960 I broke, I see your hand. 1771 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,040 - So I don't have a question. 1772 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,880 I have a great announcement. 1773 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:03,360 We got the $9,000 and 10 cents from DVL 1774 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,800 to help fund the DWIF sculpture. 1775 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,000 So we got fully funded on that one. 1776 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,700 So now I can get this down to individual donors. 1777 01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:13,640 So that's a good news. 1778 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,300 - So you said $9,000 and 10 cents? 1779 01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:19,440 They had some change in their pocket 1780 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:21,120 they needed to get rid of? 1781 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,920 - I'm in DVL, so I knew they had 10 cents extra. 1782 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,180 So I rolled it into my application. 1783 01:28:27,180 --> 01:28:30,440 So it works like a charm. 1784 01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:32,400 - It pays to know details, I guess. 1785 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,400 So that's great news. 1786 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:35,660 That's first time we've heard of that too. 1787 01:28:35,660 --> 01:28:37,840 So fantastic. 1788 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,840 So the thought, so if you remember Industrial Street Park, 1789 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:47,160 we came to the park board with a number of designs 1790 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,520 and we went to council and at the time council decided 1791 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,600 they wanted to kind of hold off on that development. 1792 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,800 So I guess the overall master plan that Drew's thinking 1793 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,560 is that we would design the sculpture. 1794 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,680 The sculpture and the grant has a timeline to it. 1795 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,000 It has to be done by August or we lose the grant. 1796 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,120 So the sculpture would go in 1797 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,200 and then phase two would be to do the other improvements 1798 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,000 to enhance the park itself. 1799 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,080 So it wasn't just a sculpture sitting 1800 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,720 in the middle of a grassy lot. 1801 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,360 So we have to kind of go back a little bit 1802 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,120 and look at those designs to figure out 1803 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,160 how we could incorporate some of the existing design ideas 1804 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,460 that we had with the sculpture itself. 1805 01:29:31,460 --> 01:29:34,960 And one part of the design for Industrial Street 1806 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,080 had a small stage on that property 1807 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,120 that people go out there and have a one man, two man band 1808 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,520 playing a saxophone or whatever it would be 1809 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,940 for some of the activities. 1810 01:29:44,940 --> 01:29:51,040 So the brainstorm that we had was to use that sculpture, 1811 01:29:51,380 --> 01:29:54,680 if you remember the disks, almost as a backdrop 1812 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,920 for the stage and the band could face forward 1813 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,440 with the sculpture behind them to play entertainment. 1814 01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:05,920 But then also you could use it as an outdoor classroom 1815 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,440 where the kids could sit on the stage and face the sculpture 1816 01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:13,800 and have someone talk to them about whatever the topic is. 1817 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,280 It could be about the DWF ladies 1818 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,040 or it could be about Denton history. 1819 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,540 It could be about anything. 1820 01:30:19,540 --> 01:30:22,740 Or you could have a presenter stand on the stage 1821 01:30:22,740 --> 01:30:25,000 as you would with the musician, 1822 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:30,000 facing the grassy area with camps or adults 1823 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,740 learning about a topic or whatever, 1824 01:30:31,740 --> 01:30:34,760 and use it as an opportunity to kind of, 1825 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,360 an outdoor teaching area, 1826 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,220 similar to what we envisioned the nook being. 1827 01:30:40,220 --> 01:30:45,220 So that was kind of our early initial thought process on that. 1828 01:30:45,220 --> 01:30:47,920 We're in the process of trying to sketch that up 1829 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,920 and just kind of hand draw it 1830 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,920 and kind of come up with some concepts. 1831 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,400 But I'll kind of leave it there for discussion. 1832 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,680 - Elana. 1833 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,840 - Hi, so I didn't put these together 1834 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,960 before we were in the naming rights 1835 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,240 or when we were doing that item earlier. 1836 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:14,240 And I just, when we were discussing the name change 1837 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,820 about for Industrial Park to Wolf, 1838 01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:20,520 I didn't put it together 1839 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,000 that this sculpture was gonna be in that park. 1840 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,800 And I really think it should be considered when naming it 1841 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:31,640 because I don't see how naming at Wolf Park 1842 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,080 has very much to do with that incredible sculpture. 1843 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:38,080 And I just feel like the name of the park 1844 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,640 should represent the meaning 1845 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,940 and everything that goes into that sculpture. 1846 01:31:42,940 --> 01:31:46,640 So that goes into, I would like to have that added 1847 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,160 to the item about the naming of the park. 1848 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,600 - And then when we met with the ladies, 1849 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,760 their comment was they spent a lot of time there 1850 01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,120 and that's one of the places 1851 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:02,480 that they would go and meet at or go and get lunch. 1852 01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:05,280 And then, you know, either walk over to the square 1853 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,360 or walk somewhere in that area and have lunch. 1854 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,800 So they all remember, you know, Wolf's Food Store. 1855 01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,960 And that was one of, that was just one of their areas 1856 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:19,840 that they would either cross pass at or, you know, meet. 1857 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,600 I don't know if they really had meetings there 1858 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,280 but they would kind of cross pass. 1859 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,160 And I think, John, if you remember their conversations, 1860 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,080 they talked about it very highly and with a positive manner. 1861 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:29,920 So. 1862 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:34,000 - Yeah, and so I just think it's another good place 1863 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,520 to have community input outside of just like a small group. 1864 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:39,580 - Yeah, that's great. 1865 01:32:39,580 --> 01:32:40,960 That's a great point. 1866 01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,160 So we can definitely ask them to maybe write 1867 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,920 a summary letter kind of with support 1868 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,400 or against, you know, the concept 1869 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,520 since that's a major piece of art that's going in there. 1870 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,920 So that's a great, great idea. 1871 01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:55,740 Thank you. 1872 01:32:55,740 --> 01:33:01,360 - Gary, I have a concern about the vandalism to the art 1873 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,720 and I'm just gonna say it, 1874 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:10,720 it seems to be any art that has a face that is black. 1875 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,160 Vandalism occurred with Pops Carter statue 1876 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,800 in Quaker Town Park and then had to be relocated. 1877 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,000 And now there's been multiple vandalism 1878 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,160 with the ongoing art. 1879 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:28,160 So what plans or is there any plan to prevent vandalism? 1880 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:34,680 - Yeah, it really is an issue throughout our park system. 1881 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,640 Unfortunately, it's something we deal with 1882 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,560 on a regular basis. 1883 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,000 I understand that this could be targeted specifically. 1884 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,440 The mural is an easy one 1885 01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:47,240 because we can put a clear coat on that. 1886 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,880 And then if you paint over top of it, 1887 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,760 we can literally wipe it off. 1888 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,500 So that's something that we'll be applying 1889 01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:55,280 on a regular basis in addition to, 1890 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,280 and I think Autumn can comment on this, 1891 01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,240 is murals tend to get less vandalism 1892 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:05,840 because they don't seem as like an empty canvas 1893 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:07,280 for someone to do something with. 1894 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:12,120 So it kind of deters vandalism a little bit in that sense, 1895 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,120 but we are going to be putting clear coat 1896 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,680 on the murals for sure to preserve those. 1897 01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,720 We have expressed to the artists the concern 1898 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,440 about that glass and whatever that product is 1899 01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:25,120 that it can't be vandalized 1900 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:29,960 and what it's gonna take to get those either vandal proof 1901 01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,800 or less susceptible to vandalism 1902 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,440 and then replacement as well. 1903 01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:37,960 So I think that's discussions that we're still having. 1904 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,560 John, I don't know if you have any updates on any of that. 1905 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,920 - Nothing other than these are coated too. 1906 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,880 And most of the rods you see are very strong, 1907 01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,760 stainless steel type rod that goes through it. 1908 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,400 All the glass pieces that you will actually see 1909 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:58,080 are lenticular type glass, very thick, very difficult. 1910 01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,840 But just like any other sculpture, 1911 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,540 if somebody takes a sledgehammer to it, it's gonna get damaged. 1912 01:35:02,540 --> 01:35:03,380 - Yeah. 1913 01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:09,880 - Have you thought about most of these structures 1914 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,320 have lights near them? 1915 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,880 Have you thought about security cameras attached 1916 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,960 to the already existing lighting? 1917 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,880 - Yes, right now, of course, with our conversations 1918 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,400 we've had in the last several months, 1919 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,640 and we did tell you that we are working 1920 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,120 on looking at different security cameras. 1921 01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,320 We're testing several right now 1922 01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,680 to see which ones are working the best 1923 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,200 and which ones have the clearest picture 1924 01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,040 on top of where we can place them 1925 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:42,520 to where they're also out of vandalism's reach 1926 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,120 because sometimes they either get vandalized 1927 01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,280 or they get stolen. 1928 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,720 So we're testing out several different types right now. 1929 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,320 So, and with industrial, if you remember that park, 1930 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,360 it did have lights there. 1931 01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,120 And we've already spoken to the artist 1932 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,360 that we showed her different renderings 1933 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:06,360 of what industrial kind of, and what was envisioned before. 1934 01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,640 And part of the vision was light. 1935 01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,880 So if you remember that amphitheater was kind of oval shape 1936 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,040 and then having lights coming up from underneath 1937 01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,360 where it's lighting from the ground 1938 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,040 and lighting from the air from on top 1939 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,520 to be able to really emphasize that space 1940 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,880 and now that sculpture. 1941 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,320 - I mean, it's very unfortunate. 1942 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,720 I mean, we have people vandalize our cemeteries 1943 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,840 all the time and go push over monuments 1944 01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,760 that are a hundred years old 1945 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:37,680 and can't be replaced and fences. 1946 01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,720 So it's part of what we deal with, unfortunately. 1947 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,240 And it's something that we'll budget for 1948 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,560 and anticipate it happening, 1949 01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,960 but do our best to try to deter it. 1950 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,680 - Okay, I see two hands. 1951 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,160 Mr. Amberg was first, Burke you're next. 1952 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,880 - Oh, okay, I was gonna let say ladies first. 1953 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,120 - Well, okay, I'll gladly go first. 1954 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:04,960 I was just gonna say on that note, Gary, 1955 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,000 I was wondering if there was any more discussion 1956 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,400 on potential for a graffiti park. 1957 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,800 I come from the idea of provide them a space for it 1958 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,560 and it lowers the rate. 1959 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,200 - Yeah, I haven't, we haven't really talked about it much. 1960 01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:19,840 We're trying to get these other projects done 1961 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:23,040 that have been on hold, but Brooke's idea was, 1962 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,440 and there's some cities that have them as graffiti parks 1963 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:28,440 kind of similar to Cadillac Ranch 1964 01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:31,760 where you can go over there and spray paint something. 1965 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,280 So maybe we can get some Peterbilt's that are old 1966 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,320 that we could put in a ground 1967 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,480 and have people go out and paint them somewhere. 1968 01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:41,320 But that was an idea that maybe we could provide that 1969 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,520 as an opportunity for people to maybe burn off some energy 1970 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,200 in a better, more productive way. 1971 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:50,000 - Mr. Amberg. 1972 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,920 - Yeah, I was gonna suggest kind of taking off 1973 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:57,920 from what Gary was saying, soften around the artistic piece 1974 01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:02,400 would be to kind of like put holly bushes, 1975 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:07,400 low holly bushes around because they'll definitely keep people 1976 01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:12,360 from trying to climb, it does it in a very subtle way, 1977 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:13,880 but also makes it look nice. 1978 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,560 It softens it up and makes it look better. 1979 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:22,040 - Part of the artist's design of this is for you 1980 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,440 to actually interact with it. 1981 01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:27,520 So get up close to it, read it, see the images. 1982 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,080 So we'd have to make sure that whatever we do, 1983 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,960 we work with them. 1984 01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:33,640 And so you could scan it with your phone 1985 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,360 and hear an interview with that person 1986 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:40,320 or be pushed over to a photo of that person 1987 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:44,440 or a bio or whatever it would be. 1988 01:38:44,440 --> 01:38:47,640 There's more to learn with this piece. 1989 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,600 And the piece is really the engagement part 1990 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,760 to get people interested in, oh, what's that? 1991 01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,680 And going over there and exploring. 1992 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:59,080 So this one's supposed to be made to be interactive 1993 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,960 and pull people into it. 1994 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,080 And the sphere that's in front of it 1995 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,280 actually has images and words on it. 1996 01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,800 So when you walk around it, it changes. 1997 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,800 Is that a good explanation of it? 1998 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,960 So it kind of changes as you kind of walk around it. 1999 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:20,960 So the piece is intended to be interactive with people. 2000 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:25,080 So that's one consideration we have to consider. 2001 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:29,920 - Mr. Amrick, did you have an additional comment? 2002 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,360 - No, I was pretty much it. 2003 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:36,360 I just make a suggestion where we have interactive thing, 2004 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,600 obviously you couldn't use the bushes 2005 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,800 except for maybe behind the back where you're not. 2006 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,240 But the camera sounds good and the only thing 2007 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:51,240 I heard in here was to light it up a little more too. 2008 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,560 - There's a couple of trees we might have to take out. 2009 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,760 They are secondary trees, but the thought process 2010 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,480 would be to replace those and whether it's there 2011 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:03,880 or somewhere and that would provide a little bit 2012 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,760 of openness to help detract some of that 2013 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,200 and make sure that we get lighting in those areas. 2014 01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,440 So that'll be something that we'll be looking at 2015 01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:12,960 through the design process. 2016 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,880 - And the art piece, which you didn't actually see 2017 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,200 in the PowerPoint, there's other light elements 2018 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,200 that are like would line a walkway, 2019 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,840 have the same type of a lenticular glass. 2020 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,120 Right now they're proposed to be solar powered, 2021 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,520 but they could be powered otherwise too 2022 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,920 because solar power may not get between those two buildings 2023 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,920 on either side really well to keep it wet real well for those. 2024 01:40:42,440 --> 01:40:44,160 - Well, thank you for the information. 2025 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:48,440 I am really pleased to see that Industrial Park 2026 01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:54,280 may be the final resting place because this was a concern 2027 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:59,280 that came from the community and their words are, 2028 01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:03,280 their words were, it seems if it's black art, 2029 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,960 it goes to the perceived black part of town. 2030 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:11,960 And so they asked me to bring it to the table and so I did. 2031 01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:16,680 And so it's really glad to know 2032 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,440 that it will hopefully be in Industrial Park. 2033 01:41:20,440 --> 01:41:21,920 - Yeah, thanks to John. 2034 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:26,360 He worked with Lenny McAdams to get a list of everybody 2035 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:27,200 and reached out. 2036 01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,480 I think he personally called everybody and organized it 2037 01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:35,480 for an in-person socially distanced meeting at MLK. 2038 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,120 And we had a couple of people online and it was good 2039 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,000 'cause we got just about everybody together that we could 2040 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:43,440 and got feedback from them. 2041 01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:44,720 There was some earlier discussions, 2042 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,120 I think that happened, maybe not as a group. 2043 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,560 And the information that was provided to us, 2044 01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,880 the Fred Moore would be a good location for that, 2045 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,440 but it was good to get that consensus 2046 01:41:54,440 --> 01:41:56,040 from everybody in that support. 2047 01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,920 - Thank you. - We presented both locations. 2048 01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:01,760 - I'm sorry, John, say again. 2049 01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,920 - We presented both locations and they were 100% 2050 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,560 for Industrial Park. 2051 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,200 Well, actually, no, one person, I think, 2052 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:14,400 in maybe the park or the public art committee 2053 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:15,560 wanted a different location, 2054 01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,040 but that's the only dissenting vote 2055 01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:19,800 of anybody that said anything. 2056 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,960 - Thank you, thank you so much. 2057 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:27,320 And Gary, before the Denton growth boom and COVID, 2058 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,560 we used to get updates about where the art was going 2059 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,560 and parks is, if we could add that back 2060 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,200 as a regular agenda item, 2061 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,000 that would be greatly appreciated. 2062 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,480 - We sure can do that. 2063 01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:45,760 - All right, can you repeat that again, Francis, 2064 01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,320 for minutes purposes? 2065 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:54,400 - We used to receive, before the Denton growth and COVID, 2066 01:42:54,400 --> 01:43:00,360 we used to receive updates of art going into parks. 2067 01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:05,920 I'm just requesting that be added back as an agenda item. 2068 01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:10,680 - We're not gonna have an update every single month, 2069 01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,120 but as things happen, we'll definitely provide that for you. 2070 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,760 - Yes, thank you for clarifying that. 2071 01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:17,600 - You're welcome. 2072 01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,440 - That's really what I meant. 2073 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:20,880 - I just wanted to make sure. 2074 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:25,280 - Speak then, that leads us right to, 2075 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,320 any additional concerns, comments on this topic? 2076 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,000 That leads us to next meeting. 2077 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:39,000 Do we have any items we would like to discuss 2078 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,600 for our next month's meeting? 2079 01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,040 - I'll be able to provide an update next month. 2080 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,720 - Okay. 2081 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,240 - Eddie, is there anything that we have on the list 2082 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,000 that we either have coming forward 2083 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,280 or that we need, we owe the board 2084 01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,400 that didn't make this agenda? 2085 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,240 - It was the wildflower. 2086 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:04,280 - Okay, that's right. 2087 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,840 So Drew's working on a wildflower plan, 2088 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,960 kind of a master plan that would implement wildflowers 2089 01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,880 throughout the city to help reduce our mowing efforts, 2090 01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,680 improve air quality and then add to beautification 2091 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,440 that he's been researching on other cities. 2092 01:44:18,440 --> 01:44:22,000 So he's gonna present that next month 2093 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,400 and then go to City Council. 2094 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,160 - And goes to City Council the eighth. 2095 01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,200 - Yeah, so right around the same timeframe. 2096 01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,080 - We might have a COVID update 2097 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,280 that we may just put that on there as a placeholder. 2098 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:35,360 And if we have any changes, 2099 01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,160 we can provide that to you as well. 2100 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:41,040 - Ms. Danberg. 2101 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,120 - All right, sorry about that. 2102 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,880 I was meeting myself here. 2103 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:51,880 To take two issues, one was questions, I guess. 2104 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,280 A lot of people have been asking about where we stock. 2105 01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,680 I'd like to see if we can get an update on that, 2106 01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:04,680 where we stock ponds and waterways in the city of Denton 2107 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,000 for fishing purposes, of course. 2108 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:09,960 And that would be the one. 2109 01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,960 And your question was asked was over at, 2110 01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:21,040 there on Wilson Street. 2111 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:22,760 I'm having a brain fight here. 2112 01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,200 The park there at Wilson Street, what's that called? 2113 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,360 Anyway, the park at Wilson Street. 2114 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:31,560 They were asking about, 2115 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,480 there used to be a building here 2116 01:45:33,480 --> 01:45:38,480 with the American Legion and it got torn down. 2117 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,640 - Fred Moore Park. 2118 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:41,960 - Fred Moore Park, thank you. 2119 01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:42,800 Boy, brain fight. 2120 01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:43,920 I know it off the top of my head 2121 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,240 and all of a sudden I couldn't even remember it. 2122 01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,360 So the Fred Moore, they were asking about that. 2123 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,280 And I wanted to see where we're at on that, 2124 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,400 that building, status or update on that. 2125 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,920 - Yeah, we could definitely provide an update on ALH 2126 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,920 to maybe even just Fred Moore Park as a whole. 2127 01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:03,960 The item similar to the stocking of the pond, 2128 01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,240 is that something that we could provide to you 2129 01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,760 through a Friday report or just an email 2130 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,600 to share you with an update on that process? 2131 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,840 Or is that to a point where you want a full agenda item? 2132 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,760 - Well, I think it would be tough 2133 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,480 that they could be out there to get out to the public 2134 01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:24,000 so they never to go fish, basically. 2135 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:24,840 - Okay. 2136 01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,080 - So there's one caveat to that. 2137 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:29,160 So normally it is published. 2138 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,120 Texas Parks and Wildlife asks us to take that down 2139 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,560 and in the end of April, or excuse me, 2140 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,000 end of March, 1st of April, they still are stocking. 2141 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,320 We only stock one pond 2142 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:41,960 through the neighborhood fishing program. 2143 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,200 They asked for us to remove that 2144 01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,080 from our publicized websites 2145 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,480 to make sure that they could continue to stock, 2146 01:46:49,480 --> 01:46:53,520 but there wasn't an influx of people at the ponds 2147 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,440 while they were stocking, or right after they stocked. 2148 01:46:56,440 --> 01:46:59,040 That way people could still social distance. 2149 01:46:59,040 --> 01:46:59,880 So. 2150 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:05,960 It normally is publicized on our websites 2151 01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,720 and our social media, but we did stop that in March. 2152 01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:10,960 - I wouldn't maybe back that off a little bit 2153 01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,160 and not say, okay, here's where we're stocking today, 2154 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,160 we're stocking that kind of thing, 2155 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,640 but rather here's places where people fish. 2156 01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:18,960 - Okay, yeah, we can do that. 2157 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:22,240 - In the city of Denton, here's where you can fish. 2158 01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,640 - Yeah, I talk to people weekly about where to go fish 2159 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:30,080 and what's there, so yes, I can do that. 2160 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,680 - Yeah, that's, yeah. 2161 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,240 - So did we decide, is it an agenda item 2162 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,800 or is it via email? 2163 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,960 - I'll do an agenda item, I'll do a presentation. 2164 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:39,800 - That'd be perfect, yeah, 2165 01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:43,000 and then we can make it public, yeah, 2166 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,000 we talked about, right? 2167 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,400 - Thank you so much, Alana. 2168 01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,120 - I just have a quick, I don't know what you'll call it, 2169 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,840 there's a strong possibility that we might, 2170 01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:00,000 COVID cases are increasing really fast 2171 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,120 and I don't wanna say this, 2172 01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:06,160 but what if a lot of the gyms and yoga studios, 2173 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,040 places like that, they begin to close again, 2174 01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:13,240 would the parks department be willing to maybe discount 2175 01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:18,240 or waive the fees for a small yoga studio 2176 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,400 or Pilates studio or I don't know what, 2177 01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,600 like athletic small businesses in town 2178 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,280 to have classes in the park 2179 01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,720 so that they can be socially distanced, 2180 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:35,120 but not at the normal rates because they are struggling 2181 01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:39,120 and it might be just something that could be provided 2182 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,840 in case we go back to a situation 2183 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,280 like we were in in the spring. 2184 01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:50,600 - So we do have fitness groups that do planned rentals 2185 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:55,400 in the facility that we have a contract with, 2186 01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,000 so we'd have to work through those details 2187 01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:02,120 and figure out how that's kind of balancing everybody 2188 01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:06,480 in a fair manner, the issue there is, 2189 01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:08,000 how many people are showing up for that, 2190 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,480 so those are all factors we'll have to look at, 2191 01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:12,560 plus we're hitting winter here soon, 2192 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,480 so that is a little bit challenged too, 2193 01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:16,400 but that's something we can look at, 2194 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,440 hopefully we don't go in that direction, 2195 01:49:18,440 --> 01:49:22,680 but we can put that on our list to consider 2196 01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:23,880 if we get to that point. 2197 01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:33,960 - Other concerns, items for discussion for next month? 2198 01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:42,760 And Eddie, the only one that was left over was wildflowers. 2199 01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,680 - You're on mute, yes, that is the only one that we had. 2200 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,680 - Yes, that is the only one and also adding in 2201 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,680 the Denton Parks Foundation back on to the list. 2202 01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:59,280 - Could you repeat that, I'm sorry. 2203 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,520 - Wildflower and adding a Denton Parks Foundation 2204 01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,160 back to the list. 2205 01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,440 - Very good. 2206 01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:09,400 - Eddie, just one, I guess quick thing, 2207 01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:13,240 do you remember what the status of the wildflowers 2208 01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:18,240 and the status of the boards and commissions is? 2209 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:23,920 - I'll get the city secretary, 2210 01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:28,920 I believe if there's gonna be a change over or an update, 2211 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,680 I believe it's gonna be the beginning of the year. 2212 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:32,760 - Beginning of the year, okay. 2213 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:37,040 - Yeah, I believe January, but don't count me on it, 2214 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,040 I just need to get more information, 2215 01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,280 hopefully I'll get that by the next 2216 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:42,840 park board meeting in December. 2217 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,600 Typically everyone's either comes on or rolls off 2218 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,520 depending on when they were due to expire 2219 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:53,160 in August timeframe, but with the delayed voting, 2220 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:56,880 everything was pushed back and that's why we're voting now. 2221 01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:01,280 So I guess anybody that was set to term off or change 2222 01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:05,040 that would take place in January rough timeframe, 2223 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,040 so we can provide some more information 2224 01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,640 as city secretary's office gets that finalized. 2225 01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:14,160 If worst case scenario as well to interject on that, 2226 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,400 I mean, I can send all of you an email as well 2227 01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:22,400 by find further information before the park board meeting. 2228 01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,040 - Yeah, if we could maybe just provide 2229 01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,320 the updated board sheet, not everybody may even know 2230 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,960 how many years or how many terms they have so far. 2231 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,400 So I'll make a big good reminder. 2232 01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,880 All right, if there are no additional comments or concerns, 2233 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,040 may I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? 2234 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:53,000 - Unless everyone just wants to hang on, 2235 01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:54,640 we can keep talking. 2236 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,440 - Please, please may I have a motion 2237 01:51:57,440 --> 01:51:58,640 to adjourn the meeting? 2238 01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:05,080 Okay, Atlanta made a motion and Mr. Emmerich second. 2239 01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:08,040 All in favor? 2240 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:08,880 - Aye. 2241 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:09,720 - Aye. 2242 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:15,680 Okay, the ayes have it, meeting is adjourned, 224, Eddie. 2243 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:20,080 - All right guys. 2244 01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:20,920 - Thank you. 2245 01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,040 - Thanks, all those can leave that don't wanna meet, right? 2246 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,440 - Bye everyone. 2247 01:52:26,440 --> 01:52:27,280 - Bye. - Bye bye.