Apr 08, 2021 Library Board on 2021-04-08 3:30 PM

Okay, I now call the Media Library Board to order at 330 p.m. on April 8th, 2021. I believe all members are present except for Dr. Zheng, unless she's hiding in one of these other. Okay. Is Vicki not on the board anymore? She's right there. She's here. Vicki Byrd? I didn't see her. Yeah. Yeah. She's waving. She's here. Oh, now I see her. Never mind. Thank you. And sorry, this is my first time presiding. So presentation from members of the public, we don't have any of that. We don't have any, right? I mean, the other thing is not that. Can someone help me clarify that? Unless somebody has called in, it doesn't appear that we've got any, nobody has asked to speak. Okay. So we have no members of the public asking to speak. So we'll move on to items for consideration. Consider approval of the minutes of March 11th, 2021. I move approval. Somebody second? I do. Okay. All in favor? We'll have to raise our hands. Raise your hands. Okay. What do you say, Jean? All in favor? Aye. Those opposed? Same sign. Those opposed? Same sign. All right, and receive an informational report and hold a discussion regarding the Friends of the Denton Public Libraries. Okay. Thank you. When I spoke to Jennifer about this, she just said to make it brief, but if I make it too brief and you have any questions, of course, please ask. But with the Friends of the Library, all the supplemental information was sent out. Basically, they're going to ask for a renewal of their memorandum of understanding with the city and there will be no significant changes and it all seems to have been working well. So, if anyone has any questions about that, I'll be happy to answer them. Any questions? Okay. And it should be noted that Dr. Zhang has joined the meeting. Receive an informational report and hold a discussion regarding the Emily Fowler Library Foundation. Once again, Jennifer gave this to me and said that there was no significant changes to what's going on with the Foundation. So, it was pretty much just holding steady where we were previously and whatever's in the supplemental information. Okay. Great. Anybody have any questions for Kimberly? Okay. Receive a report. Oh, I think Vicki was asking. Oh, sorry. Oh, you're muted. Oh, you're muted, Vicki. Okay. So, should you say there's not any significant changes, if there were any kind of changes, what would it be? Would it be dates, time, locations, or something like that? I believe it would just be if there were changes in the staff of the Foundation or if they decided to spend or use any of the money for anything. Currently it's just sitting in that CD, but as of right now there hasn't been anything that the Foundation had asked or we have asked the Foundation for, so it's just kind of been quiet across the board. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the library's strategic plan, 2019 to 2021. The strategic plan, I know y'all have all looked at it and approved it. It was supposed to end in 2021, and then we were going to pull everything apart, look at it, put a new strategic plan together, but 2020 delayed that. We got a lot done, but we have a lot of the things that we want to do, and one thing that Jennifer said is that we'd start gathering stakeholder information and have public meetings, and things are still a little unknown when it comes to those type of meetings and being able to get the input that we would like, so she is asking that the board approve extending the strategic plan for one more year so we can complete those items that are incomplete, and also we can have, hopefully by that time, public meetings will be a lot easier to hold. Okay. Does anybody have questions? Okay. Does someone want a motion that we approve extending the strategic plan another year? I will. Can I get a second? I'll show you. Okay. All in favor, raise your hand. Who was the second? I can't. Oh, Vicki. Okay. All opposed, same sign. So it was unanimous. All in favor. Okay. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding library phase reopening plans during the COVID-19 pandemic. Okay. Jennifer sent out a very specific breakdown of everything that we're going to be doing as we move to reopening. We're in what we're calling phase 2.5 right now where we've reopened some services such as browsing by appointment, and a few other, the copy and fact services have picked up. And we'll be moving to phase three. We're very excited on May 1st, and the list of those services are on the handout that was sent. The main one, of course, will be the grab and go service that the library doors will be open 9 to 6, Monday through Saturday, and 9 to 9 at North Branch on Tuesday, South Branch on Wednesday, and Emily Fowler on Thursday. We still will have a time limit of sorts, but it's not a hard, it's 30 minutes of browsing, but that will mainly be done by just staff observations and gently reminding people that we're trying to keep the library kind of ebbing and flowing. So they've also added a number of other services that we're excited about, and I'd be happy to answer any questions about that reopening. Vicki, you have a question? Am I hearing correctly that it's just going to be browsing, we're going to be reopening on May 1st, not in a whole, total kind of way, but no one's going to be able to sit and read in a, you know, maybe in a private space? Some of the libraries have their own little rooms or whatnot, can we consider that? We have talked about it, and what Jennifer has said, because we did have a member of the public just ask recently, and what Jennifer has said is once May 1st opens up, we're going to slowly open services after May 1st, kind of see what happens that first week, and what kind of numbers we're dealing with and what people are asking, and that does include, people can get two hour at kind of Wi-Fi desks if they're doing their laptop and bringing things up, but the readers who want to sit there in a study room or want to sit at a desk, those we don't have out yet, but she has said to us we will roll those out, and there's a possibility it'll be rolled out within two weeks of us reopening or later, but we will be going based on what the public is asking for and what Jennifer feels that we're good to be able to kind of keep an eye on, but we know that's a need. Any other questions? One online comment has been received about this subject, and as noted on the posted agenda, will not be read into the record, but included in the minutes for this meeting. And any other questions about this topic? Okay, we'll move on, receive a report, hold the discussion, and give staff direction regarding American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 library funding. My understanding from Jennifer is that we don't have a whole lot on this right now. The funds are being allocated, and then they will be turned over into grant opportunities for the library, and she will be keeping an eye on those to see what we can use for library services. I know some things we have discussed is maybe adding an extra self-check at each branch, possibly putting those hold pick up, those outside pick ups that people can get after hours, or maybe we can even discuss doing them during hours, open hours for people who are really uncomfortable coming in the library, but those are in the early discussion phases, but we do know that that money is coming, and we're talking to the staff about once those grants open up, who's going to ask for them, and what would be the best way to spend it? Questions about that? I had asked last time if possibly some of that money could be used to bring in speakers. I know it was so successful when we had that Denton author here, you know, the people turned out in droves for that, the thunder truck I think it was, and I just think that something like that will get people back in and get kids back in really enjoying being in the library. So I'm hoping we keep that in mind. I think we are looking at some larger programs, especially around summer reading club, kind of dipping our toe into like before we have them, but especially at like Emily Fowler where we now have the nook area where people can be outside and spread around, and so maybe we can still have a large, I don't want to say our normal large, but a larger gathering than normal because it's outside and people will feel more comfortable, but I agree getting them to come back is going to be a major concern and we're hoping to do it in a fun way, but that's the main thing with the grants is trying to figure out what they're going to, what parameters they're going to put around them. There are two different things that I think we need to pay attention and I do hope the library can take advantage of those. One is the American Rescue Plan is going to be more about recovery, responses and recovery, and there is a huge part of the emphasis on people who are underserved. And so it is very important for the library to be prepared to really roll out programs that specifically address the population that are underserved, not just bring the regular users back, but to expand to the areas where we're not serving as many people. That's the first thing. The second thing is that because $200 million is going to go through the IMLS and then there's the $7 billion that is going to go through the state into both the schools and the libraries, especially public libraries, the IMLS, the $200 million most likely is going to be in the form of grants, and so it is very important for the library to be ready to submit grants that are specifically addressing how we are going to help with the community responses and recovery. And there are several different areas. One of the areas that is very hot right now is telemedicine, telehealth. And both the physical health and mental health, and especially mental health. And that's the area. The other area, of course, is the broadband, the Internet access, the devices. So if we could expand, for example, the hotspots, if we could actually be much, much more in a much larger scale, help with residents that do not have the money to do the subscription, the Internet subscription, or do not have the Wi-Fi, the cellular signal. Those are the areas that are going to get money. And this is especially the case with the $7 billion in the schools and libraries because that money is specifically designated for technology, for distance learning, and especially for telemedicine. So it is very important for us to be ready to submit the grants. Don't wait until you see the call for proposal to think about what we want to ask for. That would be too late. And I was one of the reviewers with the previous COVID recovery grant. And so many people, so many libraries who wrote grants just wanted to do some more. That's not going to get us money. And the other thing that is also very important that the library community is pushing right now is to help, to see if we could get the attention of the Congress representatives, our senators and our House of Representatives to support Build America's Library Act, which is really for renovation, for building renovation, for physical renovation and update of the physical libraries because most, a lot of the public libraries, especially public libraries were more than 40, 50 years old. And this is the infrastructure that needs to be, needs to be renewed. And it is, the bill is introduced in the Congress, but it's not going well right now. We need more people to be, to be advocating for it. And so for example, I wrote to both senators and my congressman and basically tell them you got to sponsor this. And so those are the things that we really need to work on. I know Jennifer may have brought it up. I'm just not sure when the last, but from the last grant, just to let you know, we did add the 15 more hotspots to bring us up to 45, but we do have kind of a well-oiled machine now is that if we can get more, they will go out. And for people who were worried, they are coming back. I mean, there's a small percentage of loss, but people are bringing them back. And then they're checking them right back out. So they've been successful. And if, as we got these 15 more, I'm not sure what her view is with going forward, except that if we can get more, we're, we're going to get more because the community seems to, I mean that checked a box immediately. The other thing is they were just in our buildings this week about, we also increased the wifi range of all three branches. So you're right. Those are things that we do definitely need to look at. I have a question related to telehealth. I can't remember what you all call it. We're calling it the library of things, but as part of that, your library of things or whatever you call it, do you have a telehealth kit? Is that one of the things that you have that checks out? Like we're, we're doing a, you know, a blood pressure monitor, what do you call it? The, the measure your blood oxygen on your finger and thermometer and stuff like that in a little kit. Is that something that you all have as part of your checkout? We do not have it right now, but that's actually a really interesting idea. I'll have to talk because I know our adult services people are working right now on some suggestions that came from the public about different kits. So I can definitely add that. And of course we're, we're wiping down everything when it comes in anyway right now. So that would all work, but we're doing everything from things that are more in the needs to the wants. So that would fit under the needs. So that I'll, I'll definitely approach our adult services about that. Thank you. Any other questions about the, the funding, the American rescue plan funding? Is there any way we could get some more EV charging stations through, through that section? That's an interesting question. We've had some issues with those. They finally got us a new one, a new one at North Branch and I'm not sure about South right now, but I'll put that in to ask about, because I know those are, especially Fowler doesn't have one. So I'll put that down on the list to give it to approach Jennifer about. Thank you. Any other questions about the funding? I strongly suggest everyone read the, the, this thing from ALA that was included with our info for today. It's very informative. It fills you in pretty well about all the other different kinds of funding. Okay. Move on to the forge maker space update. Okay. Jennifer again, in the, in the information sheet listed the long, long list of things going into the new forge maker space. We started to receive furniture. She wanted to go get pictures of it, but I think a lot of it was still boxed, so she will have some really pretty pictures soon that they are, it is partially funded with the TSLAC, a special projects grant. And so like I said, she's receiving box after box as I sit in there. So it's in the very early stages, but I do know that it is definitely in progress and she should have some light, some dates soon of when they expect it to actually happen. It needs doors added, it needs a few other things that we are waiting for bids to figure out if this is something that's going to happen in the next few months or near the end of the year. So, so that's just, it's kind of, it's in progress. Okay. Library 2021 summer classes and events. Jennifer included that. She did say there was one thing that accidentally didn't get included that I was supposed to read and that is the crafters corner is returning to Emily Fowler. Bring your favorite craft, visit to exchange patterns and know-how and get to know others in your local crafting community. This is a come and go program and it'll be Thursday mornings at Emily Fowler from nine 30 to 1130 it's a long time program that had to be suspended due to COVID and because we know we can really space people out right now and that we're not expecting the large group to return. We figure we can start welcoming the crafters back as long as we don't, if we get overwhelmed we'll space them out around the library, but they are going to return starting this next cycle and that's the theme of the entire summer classes lit thing is it's a mixture of in-person programs and virtual programs. So those that are still not comfortable coming in have a slate to choose from and those that would like to come in with programs that are planned based around safety. We also have that for them. Okay, anybody have questions about that? What's the like sort of the ratio like how much of it is actually in person? Let me see, I mean is it a lot? There's a number, there's quite a few that are in person. Let me see I've got actually one of the programmers sitting next to me. Do you know the percentage of your programs that are in person? I haven't looked at it that closely. Okay, Chisa with South Branch with the youth program, she actually has more in-person than she has virtual, but it's going to start in June with more virtual than in-person, but slowly move over to more in-person than virtual. And I know that's with youth, I think adults are trying to stay split just because we've noticed some of our in-person stuff, I mean some of our virtual stuff has been very popular and they want to keep doing that, but we may have some where if we have a genealogy speaker come it will be virtual where you can go in through the Zoom link, but also if you choose to show up they will have you know tables set up for people to do that. So whatever you're either more comfortable with or if you don't have the technology the opportunity is still there, but and we can also give somebody a laptop in the library who wants to put on headphones instead of a table. So if they want to be safe and virtual but don't have it, we also have a third way that they can enjoy the speaker program or class. Yes, Ms. Berg. These classes held in, I'm thinking about Emily Fowler and I know there's like a little large meeting room, are these kinds of things held in that meeting room or are they just all in a big open space in the library, how does that, what should I be visualizing? They are going to be for the most part in the meeting room with I think Jennifer wanted to start with a 15 person limit on those, but with adult programs that's not really asking that especially with the virtual elements that should be cover what we're hoping will show with the children's programs we are putting some of those in the nook back behind the library, that new space so that people can spread out a little bit and they're going to have one that's an Emily Fowler program, but it will be on the square. So that will be outside. If they do bring the children's programs inside, they are also going to try to limit it. So if it's 105 degrees and 30 people show up, they've given the children's librarians instructions of maybe we do half of them in there while the others are in the play areas that may or may not be open up, we'll have to figure that out, and then we rotate them, but that would just be weather dictated. If the weather is good, we can do it outside. Some of this is going to be we're going to do it and see if it works and then reevaluate to make sure the parents and the kids are happy, but for the most part at Emily Fowler it'll be in the meeting room or outside. North will be in their large meeting room and South will be in their meeting room, though I do know some of their children's programs may be at the pavilion. Yeah, the story times, they're going to actually be in the pavilion at one of the parks because South's numbers are pretty impressive. Do you, are you going to have a printout of the programs as you've done in the past so that people can pick them up at the checkout, you know, if I come through the North branches, you know, get my pick up my books, I can pick up one of those programs. I do believe so, let me double check something real quick because this has changed a couple of times. Are they doing a printout of the programs? Okay. Sorry, I've got my assistant here. She's, they are going to print out not the same numbers as we normally do, but we will have them available for those that do want a hard copy. When do you, does she know when they're going to be available? I think once we get approval from y'all, she's going to give the go ahead to the, to Victoria. So Victoria will probably get to working on it tomorrow. So hopefully it usually moves pretty quick once she has it. Thank you. Okay, we don't actually need to vote on those, right? The classes. It's just that approval, Kate, I know, but it just says, receive a report, hold a discussion and give staff direction. I guess it may be, I misspoke that it's not an official approval, but if there was anything y'all had concerns, questions or issues with the programs, we would want to know that before we went forward. Okay, anybody have any other questions or comments about the summer classes and events? Okay. Fiscal year 2021-22 budget requests. Okay, I've been, I've been dreaming about these because when they're coming up, we have to have them all together soon. We're looking to reinstate two FTEs that we lost due to the, I'm blanking on what we called the program, but people who could step down at the beginning of COVID voluntarily. And so we are going to ask for our teen librarian at South Branch, a part-time library assistant for circulation at Emily Fowler and a part-time for technical services. All of these are positions we've had before. They've just been sitting empty. She will also be asking for, we're replacing or adding a few more security cameras at North and South in order to just add for some safety issues. It's just hard having blind corners, wanting to know what's going on around the branch. And the big one is at Emily Fowler. We're looking to add conference and study rooms downstairs where our new computers are. And that way that's kind of a whole area of study rooms, conference rooms, where we can bring in services from the community who wants to meet with our, we have a large group of underserved populations and those experiencing homelessness, and we figure if we can bring the organizations in, they will have a conference room. And then we have study rooms for, of course, the many students. And let's see what else she has added. They're also adding new service desks at North and South that they're going to ask for, trying to have this one desk concept that Jennifer's, she's been talking about for a couple of years now. Okay. Questions? Okay. 1,000 books before kindergarten. I think Vicki was going to ask a question before I got to that one. Yes, ma'am. You were looking down when I put my hand up and I was just, since I'm just getting on the board, I was going to ask about the one, the one, one desk conference. What was that? I'm sorry. I guess it was in the libraries have had two desks, one circulation and one reference. And there's kind of always been some confusion amongst the general public library staff knows circulation and reference like the back of their hand. This is Cirque. This is reference. The public just wants their question answered. So Jennifer has been pushing for us to move it into one large desk with both circulation and reference sitting together as sort of an information hub. And they've already kind of done that at North branch, but desks are getting more, she's looking for stuff that's more dynamic, that it's more ADA assessable. And so they're looking at those to be able to, so they're not these huge Bohemian. She calls them battleship desks where people have to come up and kind of stand on their toes to see us. So that's, that's her one desk concept is to have them to be more mobile, more easily assessable desks, but also to have the two different parts of the staff working together at them. Okay. Anything else? Questions. Okay. 1000 books before kindergarten. Okay. So I'm going to change out here and let Mr. Rebecca Ivy, who is, this is her baby, talk about it. Hello. Okay. Sorry, this is my first time doing this. So I am talking to you guys about the 1000 books before kindergarten program. And I'm thrilled that we should be able to start this and next, I'm hoping in the next two weeks, the last element we need is at the printers right now. So once we get that, we'll be able to launch. So what it is, is a early literacy program. We're trying to encourage families and caregivers to read at least one book a day to their child. If they want to read more than one book, that's excellent. And we hope that happens, but it also promotes that family bonding or kindergarten readiness. So it has many aspects that, I mean, this is, this is what we do at the library is promoting literacy. So this concentrates on birth through five. And I have had personal experience with not me personally, but people coming up to me and saying, Oh, I don't need to read to my baby. They can't understand anything. And so that's one of the reasons I really wanted to start a program like this, because that's, that's false. You need, you need to read to your babies. So we're just really hoping this promotes that experience, that reading to children. So it's, the majority of this has been funded by a grant from the debt and benefit league, and we have a multi-step process. When they first enroll in the packet, they will, they'll get one of these packets. It will have their enrollment letter. It'll have an encouraging sticker. This is just a mock-up. This is what's out the printers right now, but a growth chart. We want them to, to grow as they grow their reading skills. So they're going to have a, obviously not my little eight and a half by 11 page, but it'll be a full growth chart. So that will be included in their enrollment packet and it will include all of the information needed to enroll a little bit about the, about the program. We have a website Trey already, I, he has all the content, he's created a website. Also explaining this, we're using read squared, which is what we use for summer, our summer reading challenge, but it has a 1000 books program already in it. So we're going to use that and that's where people can record all of the books read. So that has multiple steps. First they're going to enroll, then at 250 books read, they'll be able to get a book bag because we want them to take home lots of books. I've got to find my papers. There it will look, again, I only have the proofs right now, so they'll get a book bag so they can take home their books. Then at 500 books read, they'll get a free book. At 750 books read, they'll get a fun color changing cup. And at 1000 books read, they'll have completed the program. So we're going to make a big to do. When they read their 1000 books, they're going to get a certificate. They're going to get another free book and they're going to get one of these cute puppets. So and then everyone will get an invitation to a graduation just on the off chance that we have someone complete this year. Again, this year might look a little different than it will in future years, but we already have a date booked, a graduation book for August 7th. So we have that. We're working on publicity and working with Victoria. Everything we have, enrollment folders, websites, everything is going to be in English and Spanish. We're putting together, we're going to have Facebook ads, we're going to do a push to the preschools. We really want to have a push to the Denton ISD preschool program and long term goal with this program. Not, you know, not during a pandemic, but we're going to reach out to the hospitals and try to get parents at the very earliest stages of parenthood. So that's our, that's one of our long term goals. I think that kind of sums it up. Do you guys have questions for me? Rebecca, this is Linghui Jiang, the CEO, so glad that you were able to help us with the classes and all that. I think the program, the way you described is absolutely wonderful. And a lot of times young parents do not understand that it's really not about reading the content to the babies and toddlers. It's about getting the babies and the toddlers, getting them used to our voices, their voices, getting them used to the whole connection using the audio and using the closeness. That's the connection that will last the child's lifetime. That's a fun bonding experience, yes. It's that kind of thing. And the best way to do it is to use books and use stories for them to really build that connection, the bonding. And so this is the part, I think from my perspective in a class, what I'm trying to tell the students who want to be children's librarians is that your target is really the parents, not just the three-year-old. And because the parents need to bring them in, the parents need to read to them, and they need to be able to see their guardians, the adults around them reading. And so the reading out loud gives them that chance to do it. So this is one of those family literacy elements that we really want to push out to students as well. Yes, I agree. That's one of the reasons for Summer Reading Talent, where we really promote, we move to having adults because we wanted to show children that their parents are reading too, but that's a different program. Also I wanted to add in there the importance of reading, especially if we're talking about from a cultural perspective, is that you have learning language, you know, common language and then you have cultural language, and so those kids, it makes a lot of sense to read to kids as they're learning to speak that they'll be speaking in a learning language, you know, terminology, because people are learning differently than the way that they learn at home. They talk differently at home than they do, you know, at school or in a common place. So I'm very excited about that. I love learning, and I'm a retired teacher, so of course I'm a lifelong learner, and I know in my house we talk differently than I would, you know, talk in public or reading, so it also helps with kids hearing a different type of speak. So that's good. I like that. I agree with everything that's been said. Now I might have missed it, but when can we sign up because I have two grandchildren, I want in this program? Hopefully in the next two weeks. Everything is ready to go. ReadSquared is set up, the website is set up, nothing is live because we want to make sure they get the complete packet, and we're really just waiting on this growth chart. So I already have these folders, not all 2,000 of them, but I already have a good start on getting these folders put together, and once we get these growth charts, we'll distribute these to all the branches, other than the imprinted items, we have everything in, so as soon as we get that imprinted item, we're launching, and I'm optimistic it'll be in the next two weeks. I want it before summer reading, so people will see it as a separate program because this program won't end. This is a year-long program, whereas summer reading is seasonal. Okay, if a child is already five and won't be six until fall, can they be involved in this? As long as it's ideally for anyone pre-kindergarten. So it targets pre-K still, and it's absolutely doable. We have the numbers in here. If you read one book a day, that's 365 books a year, but if you read three books a day, that's pretty much 1,000 books in three months. This is what I'm holding right now, they read three to five books a day. So it's doable. So mark your calendar for August 7th. Thank you. Anyone else have any questions? Okay. There's one more thing I just wanted to say. I'm going to be on a, I don't know if you all know that I am running for city council district one. I'm going to be on a forum this Saturday at five o'clock at the Fredmore Park, and is it okay if I announce this program to the audience out there to let them know to prepare to look for this through the library? Yes. That's great. We had a real brief ad on one of our literacy tips that we published on Facebook a few weeks ago. So it was just a small, it's coming soon. So we've already put out some of that information. Okay. So I'll let them know while I'm out there. That would be great. Great. All right. All right, anybody else have questions or comments about? Okay. All right. Let me see. Yes. Okay. Kimberly back then. Oh, okay. Yes. I'm back. Okay, the achievement in library excellence award. As Jennifer, she just included in the packet that the Den public library had been awarded the 2020 Texas achievement in library excellence award. So she included this certificate in the packet. Okay. Library card youth art contest. Just a quick overview. We are doing a library card art contest for kindergarten. So ages four through 17 years old can draw what they, a library card for us or used online means, basically whatever means of creativity they want to use. It's on our website. It has all of the rules listed. We do have it broken down into age groups for this younger middle and then the older high school kids. And we will pick three of those. We have some judges from local art institutions and those, we will produce library cards with their art on them. How many and how we're doing it. If we have one that's spectacular, it may become our new standard youth library card, but I think we can probably do a hundred cards each at the very, for the winner. So they, their families, and then those who are getting a new card can choose those. All of the rules and regulations, I won't go through all of them except to say it is only open to those that live in the city of Denton, go to DNISD, or they or their parents have a annual fee or a full service library card. So if, if their parent or guardian has a full service library card, they can, they can participate. And it will go through May 1st, so it's only for the month of April. And we're curious to see how the turnout will be. We're talking to DNISD. We're talking to the local Explorium, other places that serve children. And if somebody is not eligible to win, that doesn't, which includes the children of the library staff, does not mean they can't turn them in. And we, if we do some sort of display of the cards, you know, theirs will be right there with them. Okay, questions about that? Okay. Does anybody have anything to announce or a request for the upcoming agenda? Yes, Mr. Owen. No, everybody's good. Oh, I think he's trying to speak to me. It's on your screen. I think you're muted. Okay, there we go. A report on the election, how we had went at the different libraries for the May. So, you mean like which, which branches are going to be voting locations? You know, how it went at the various places. How many showed up that's okay. I don't have that definitely get it for you. It's not happening yet. Oh, okay. I think I got myself confused. Now I understand what the sorry about that. Okay, we will we will make sure to get that that I believe they do keep track because we do have some people coming in the same doors, but we will get that. We're watching you, Vicki. Anybody else? Okay. It is now 419 PM. And this meeting of the Library Board is adjourned.