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 Good afternoon. This is a special called meeting of the on oversight committee for the city

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 of Denton. We have a quorum present this afternoon. It is 1204 PM on November 5th. And we'll begin

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 with consideration of item A, which is approval of consideration of approval of the minutes

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 from the July 23rd, 2020 meeting. Is there any comments or questions on the meeting minutes?

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 Hearing none, can I get a motion and a second to approve?

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 So moved. Tim Crouch is recognized as making a motion.

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 Second. Second from Randy Robinson. Any additional

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 discussion? All in favor of approving the minutes as presented, please signify by raising

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 your right hand. All opposed? Same sign. Motion carries. Moving on to item B, receive a report

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 and hold discussion and give staff direction regarding the general obligation funded capital

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 projects. I will turn that over to David or to Casey. I'm not sure who took the lead on

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 that. Cassie will take it from here. All right. Go ahead, Cassie.

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 We have a presentation. Parks will be presenting capital projects. We'll be presenting and

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 then facilities to give you an update of all of the GEO funded projects. So with that,

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 I'll turn it over to Gary. Okay. Can everybody see that? My name is Gary

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 Packen, director of parks and recreation. We also have Drew Huffman, assistant director

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 of park maintenance and park planning is on the phone as well. So he may jump in as we

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 move along. Update proposition for 2014 bond election program. The playground replacement

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 plan and program is just about completed. The last playground that was part of the original

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 plan is under construction as we speak over at McKenna. So you can see that activity going

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 on. We did have a balance in that account. And last meeting, we requested that to be

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 moved to Joe Skiles and update a playground at that location. That is going to be going

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 to city council here fairly soon. So that'll be under construction this winter and that'll

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 close out that project. Park improvements. These were completed already. This was at

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 Lake Forest and Milam park. We had a pavilion and basketball court completed over there.

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 That was done probably about a year, two years ago. South lakes tennis courts. We had designed

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 these in house and we need to do some additional design work. So we are going through the process

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 of hiring a firm to help complete that design work. We had a kickoff meeting about a week

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 and a half ago with that firm. We are planning to put in two additional tennis courts where

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 the star is with lights and then an alternate which was not part of the bond program. We

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 put lights on the existing two tennis courts. So all four courts would have lights and then

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 we'll resurface that court when the other courts are built as well. And completion on

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 that is probably September of '21. Property acquisition. We presented to council back

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 on August 25th a litany of properties that we're looking at. We've narrowed it down specifically

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 for this funding to three or four properties. Primarily between 377, I guess I'd say east

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 of 377 for a future library and a park. We're trying to cohabitate those two facilities.

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 So real estate is working right now to identify and negotiate land in those areas. There's

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 a lot of development going on there. So we're scrambling to make sure that we can find adequate

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 land for the library's relocation. That would be the south library. Southwest Park master

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 plan design. This started late summer. We do have a focus group of community members,

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 about 25 people that are helping us with that process. We have another public meeting scheduled

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 for next Thursday evening at 6 p.m. This is to gather feedback and input from all the

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 users in the community for what that master plan will outline. It will be more of a bubble

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 concept drawing. When it's completed it will not have construction drawings at this point

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 in time. Obviously this is just for the planning purposes. We do not have funding for any construction

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 as well. But this should be wrapped up probably late spring of next calendar year. Spray ground

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 was completed. Unfortunately we did not open it this summer due to COVID-19 but it is ready

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 to go for next spring. Trail system expansion. This is the trail basically starting at North

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 Lakes where the dog park is. It goes up near the animal shelter. It goes across 377 all

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 the way up to North Point Park and then over to Evers. This is completed. It's heavily

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 used especially the section around the dog park and that's the images you see here is

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 in that area in North Lakes Park. We've been working on our parks and recreation master

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 plan that outlines trails throughout the entire community and this would be a major tie-in

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 to that planning effort. Tennis construction phase one Pro Shop is done. This was actually

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 slated to be completed in January of 2021 and it was actually completed a few months

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 ahead of time. So thank you to our facilities group for managing that project. If you haven't

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 had a chance to see it take a drive by. If you're interested in going through the building

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 we can definitely get you in there. But here's some images of what it looks like now. We

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 have a general open area. We'll eventually have some furniture in there and a check-in

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 desk for staff, a few offices, a meeting room, and then some storage and then we've upgraded

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 all the restrooms and showers in that facility as well. So when the courts are done and we

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 open or we reopen we're ready to go. As for the courts we've been working on some permitting

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 and design challenges and opportunities so we're hoping that we can get out the bid before

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 the end of the year for the courts itself. We have been reaching out to potential contractors

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 letting them know that's coming so we have good bids. So that's in the works and staff's

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 working diligently to get that out on the street. We did get some USTA grants from the state

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 of Texas as well as national. It wasn't as much as we had hoped but I think COVID caused

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 some changes in regards to the grant funding that's available but we did get $40,000. Water

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 work parks addition this is completed and this was obviously used this summer before

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 last. This did not open again this summer as well because of COVID. Vela Athletic Complex

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 was completed. We had a grand opening on August of 2019. We've been utilizing the facility.

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 We did have some additional funding in the project account and we've been working with

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 the Public Art Committee on a sculpture for that facility. We talked briefly about this

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 and Vela Athletic Complex welcoming people into that facility and then as you're walking

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 through this archway you'll see the sculpture in the background just in front of the playground

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 structure. The total project is $101,000. We moved $65,000 from the project from Vela

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 Then working with the Vela family they wanted something that tied Dr. Vela's love for soccer

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 and his UNT experience with biology and the artist took basically the outline of a soccer

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 ball and put the molecules or the stainless steel spheres on the inside of it and I think

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 they did a really good job. There's a star in the middle for the Texas star. They designed

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 it so it couldn't be climbed and we're looking to maybe even put some decorative pots around

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 the base of it for landscaping as well to soften it up a little bit. So that should

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 be completed by July. This is what it looks like in theory with Photoshop where the existing

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 foundation is already there and then as you walk into the facility this will be the first

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 thing that greets you. And here's another angle. This was before we put the Archway

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 sign in there which was installed last week. Lake Forest Park, we spent a lot of time on

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 design and permitting. This is actually going out to bid I think next week and it should

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 be completed probably early 2022. This is the first dredging project that Drew and I

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 have worked on since being with Parks. So the neighbors next to the park are very interested

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 in seeing this happen. Drew's been working hard to keep them up to speed on that project.

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 be dredged or be drained and the fish will be relocated. Drew, do you have anything to

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 add to that? Maybe not. Okay, just moving along. 2019 bond election program, we had

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 five million dollars that was approved in November of 2019. Originally it was slated

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 to be scheduled for 21-22 and 23-24. With the amount of activity of development going

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 on at Denton, we have discussed with finance the opportunity if we could find the land

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 sooner that that could be moved up. So David Gaines has given us the go-ahead to move forward

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 with researching that. So we're actively looking to utilize that funding for land acquisition

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 before it's purchased privately and redeveloped so we can assure that we have park space for

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 the next generation of Dentonites. And with that, I'll open for any questions you have

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 on any of those projects. I don't have a question on those projects, but I'm just wondering

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 about the impact on the department of COVID and limitations that's placed on your ability

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 to deliver services. I'm sorry, Mr. Crouch, could you say that one more time? Just what's

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 the impact been on your department of COVID and the ability to provide services in parks

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 and recreation? That's a great question. It's been very challenging. We really have kind

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 of almost like a dual personality department at this point in time. Our park maintenance

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 staff and our parks have been busier, more busier than ever. We have not slowed down

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 budgets so we stopped hiring staff. So with the demand, service level demand from the

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 community and having those expectations with so many people in the parks, we had to work

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 diligently to keep up with that. So it was a challenge this summer for sure. Recreation

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 inside, all our buildings were closed, but they had to basically reinvent themselves

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 and provide virtual programming. And then we also shifted to other areas of need. We

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 helped support the local food bank in delivering food and packaging food for the community.

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 And we also supported the operations of the civic center pool for people to go in and

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 take showers. So we operated that as well as at the same time operating and developing

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 virtual programs. So it was a very challenging year. Staff is looking forward to reopening

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 their buildings as much as they can. We've slowly started reopening. MLK was opened up

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 just after Labor Day. We are starting to do more and more programming as it permits. We

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 are looking to potentially open up the senior center for extreme limited programming three

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 days a week from roughly eight to noon, eight to one. And that would be limited participation

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 and registration required as well. Because our seniors are asking for those social type

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 activities to get out and see some of their friends too. So we're slowly opening our programs.

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 And it's been a big challenge throughout the entire year for sure, as it has been for everybody.

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 Thank you. Gary, is the American Legion Center part of your parks program or is that a separate

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 program? It is part of the parks program. Facilities is helping manage the construction

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 of that. We've had some delays and working through the contractor to get them off center.

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 We're not happy with the current performance. I drove by there the other day and I could

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 tell that that project wasn't going well. Yep. All right. Any other questions or comments

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 for Gary? All right. Seeing none, there's no decisions being asked for. This is just

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 a straight update, correct? Right. Okay. All right. Moving on to item C, receive a report,

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 hold discussion, give staff direction regarding allocation of project funds. We have we have

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 two more presentations under item B. Oh, my apologies. All right. I'm sorry. Becky Devaney,

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 our city engineer is going to present on the status of the capital projects.

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 Good afternoon. Cassie and I are going to be presenting this presentation together.

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 So I'm going to get it kicked off and then I'll switch over to her on a couple of different

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 slides and then she'll switch back to me. So it'll be kind of a back and forth between

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 the two of us. So let's get started. All right. Can you all see the presentation?

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 No, we don't see it, Becky. Okay. Well, let's go back. You're going to have to help me because

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 it's not. All right. Thank you, Nick. It's my honor to be here today to talk to you about

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 the capital projects update. I'd like to start off with going over some different items we're

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 going to cover today. First of all, I'm going to walk you through some organizational changes

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 we've made some recent process improvements and communication enhancements in our department,

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 along with providing you the 2012 2014 and 2019 bond program updates and work through

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 some next steps. And then if you have any questions, we will be ready to answer those.

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 So first of all, for those of you who I haven't had the opportunity to meet, my name is Becky

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 the engineering department and capital projects department has been reorganized into three

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 specific divisions. For those of you who may not be aware, over the course of the summer

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 months, we had a consultant plant Moran come in and do an evaluation of the department

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 and they made recommendations and some of those I will share with you briefly in a few

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 minutes, but basically one of the major recommendations they made is to develop our department into

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 three specific divisions. And you can see those here on the screen. And the first division

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 is the engineering division. Currently the deputy city engineer position is vacant. And

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 we have that posted on our website. The part of the engineering division and the deputy

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 city engineer's role will also be to be responsible for all of the traffic engineering folks.

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 then also an overall engineering design team that includes our CAD technician, engineering

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 technician designers, along with our in-house engineers and also our stormwater engineers.

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 So that function really is the day-to-day operations from an engineering perspective,

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 whether it be traffic, stormwater, or water/wastewater engineering design, along with an emphasis

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 of helping when is necessary for any of the development-related projects and questions

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 delivery division. That is being headed up by Rachel Wood, who is our deputy director

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 of capital projects. And she currently has six project managers on her team with two

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 positions that we'll be looking to fill in the near future based on need. And so she

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 is responsible for the capital project delivery. And then our third division is the public

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 works inspection division, which is currently being led by Rob Plato, who is our public

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 works inspection supervisor. And he has 11 public works inspectors. Those individuals

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 do right-of-way permits. They also perform inspections on capital projects and development-related

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 projects. So just so you can understand, those are really the three specific divisions of

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 the end of the presentation. Moving through the organizational changes,

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 from Plant Moran's report, along with some of the evaluation that our team has done,

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 there are specific process improvements that we are working for. And I'm happy to announce

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 that some of these are already in the works. The first process improvement was to develop

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 a consistent project methodology and management methodology, including all stages of a project,

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 or even in closeout phase, so that we have consistent terminology and methodology that's

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 used. And with doing this, we are working on the development and implementation of the

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 new project manager manual. And we have a consultant that is on board that is working

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 through that phase to update a manual that was put together back in 2017 and bring it

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 up to the current standard of the different processes and procedures of our department.

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 And the second item is the selection and implementation of the project management software. And we

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 have selected a software of which we feel like is going to be beneficial to the department.

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 related project request for information, really kind of that one stop shop where all the information

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 the implementation of the change board. The change board idea came up from several of

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 what happens with that is we meet once monthly with individuals from our finance team and

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 they're over the 5% contingency and the $50,000 allowable. The next process improvement is

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 guide that's mailed out twice a year. The other item for communication enhancements

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 I'm going to turn it back over to Cassie to be able to go through the street improvement

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 this to you in a little bit different graphic than maybe you've seen before. This really

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 the schedule, which also if the scope changes or the schedule changes, it can impact the

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 budget. So those three items are really independent or dependent on each other. And so I wanted

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 to make sure you all understood that this is really the way that we'd like to work to

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 approach these with you. First of all, anything that you see in green we're comfortable with

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 and it's really moving in the right direction. If there's something that's listed in yellow,

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 and budget yellow. And really just that was put on hold and while staff kind of identifies

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 the funding sources and the partners for the project. The funding was being utilized for

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 the West Hickory Street project and we're evaluating this project overall and trying

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 we're evaluating that overall scope, which then directly impacts that schedule and budget.

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 it has taken a few months longer than what was originally anticipated to move that project

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 bid phase at this time. The Roodale Extension at Mingo, you see that all three, the scope,

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 the Phase 4A, but that is the roundabout. So on the 2014 Proposition 3, you'll see

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 all green for that project. I simply just bring it up to let you know that that project

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 from the standpoint that that project is short, about $2 million, and we're currently working

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 those schedules and then also how we're working on executing that actual program. On the 2019

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 the overall approach. So Phase 1 that you see right here, kind of in this yellowish

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 storm drain, street lighting, and sidewalks along with two 1200-foot bridges. It's estimated

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 to be substantially completed and have traffic on the bridge sometime this month. So we've

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 is fully funded. On the Phase 2 you can see here in the red, that's Vintage Boulevard

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 and the connection north to Phase 1. That project is taking that roadway from a two

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 to four-lane roadway. It includes storm drain, traffic signals at US 377 and Vintage and

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 also at Vintage and South Bonnie Bray, and also includes sidewalks and a mixed-use trail.

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 that project is also fully funded. The line that you see in green is the Phase 3 and that

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 look like it's completed. I just wanted to clarify that the roundabout itself is completed.

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 itself is completed. On Phase 5, that project is from Scripture to 380. It's four lanes

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00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:42,980
 divided roadway with drainage, 4500 feet of waterline, about 2200 feet of sanitary sewer.

409
00:42:42,980 --> 00:42:49,720
 It also includes street lighting and sidewalks. This project is currently on hold for design

410
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:57,200
 as we make decisions as to whether we bring this project internal or use an external consultant

411
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,400
 to do the design. It was put on hold during COVID and we're currently working through

412
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,760
 and evaluating what's the best way to execute that project. It also is in need of funding

413
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,920
 for right-of-way and construction, but we're working with COG on those funding sources

414
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:21,880
 also. Then you'll see kind of in the purple color is 6A. So we took Phase 6 and broke

415
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:29,480
 it into two phases and hopefully that is an easier way kind of to understand. 6A is from

416
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:37,200
 US 380 to Windsor and then 6B you can see is from Windsor to US 77. This is a four-lane

417
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:44,720
 divided roadway with drainage, street lighting, traffic signals, about 6300 feet of waterline

418
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:50,440
 and sidewalks. It's about 90% designed and we currently have right-of-way acquisition

419
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:59,780
 underway. We're working with trying our best to have 6B completed in coordination with

420
00:43:59,780 --> 00:44:05,800
 the high school, but basically working through right-of-way acquisition that always is a

421
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:11,400
 challenge and can at times slow down our schedule. So we're currently working through that, but

422
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:17,480
 the project does need some funding for right-of-way and construction funding and really that's

423
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,560
 just from a reimbursement standpoint. So just wanted to let you know that we worked on separating

424
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:29,120
 this project into two phases, really focusing on that 6B in coordination with the Denton

425
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:37,440
 High School opening. So that's Bonnie Bray. I'll now move on to Hickory Creek Road. So

426
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,800
 Hickory Creek Road and really I'm going to talk through kind of the three phases. The

427
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:48,980
 first phase is the scope of that project. It consists of an extension of eastbound lanes

428
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:57,840
 from 2499 to Nautical Lane and an acceleration lane along southbound FM 2499. The road was

429
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:04,600
 currently two lanes undivided, one in each direction and the project involved constructing

430
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:11,120
 two new lanes which will both be eastbound. That project is scheduled to be completed

431
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,480
 in 2021 and is fully funded and that's the project you see kind of in that bluish purple

432
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:25,040
 color. Phase two is the green, that is a widening from west of Teasley to River Pass and that

433
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,600
 consists of about 1.3 miles of a four-lane roadway with a median and turn lanes. It also

434
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:38,040
 has like the previous project, storm drain, sidewalk, water line, sewer line. It was currently

435
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:45,400
 estimated to be completed in July of 2021 and that project is fully funded. The last

436
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,120
 phase you see kind of in that turquoise color is the phase three. That's also a four-lane

437
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:58,280
 section from River Pass to 1830 and it also includes a bridge. It's in design and we're

438
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:07,300
 hoping to take that to construction in May of 2021 so that would be Q2 of 2021. It currently

439
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:15,880
 is short about 9 million dollars and we are working with COG to secure that funding for

440
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:23,720
 the overall project. The estimate at completion currently is about 46 million for that project.

441
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:28,320
 So that's Hickory Creek Road and with that I'll just kind of walk through some of the

442
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,520
 next steps. So I know we talked through the work plans. I know that our department in

443
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,280
 particular is excited about working on developing these into specific work plans, whether it

444
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,560
 be for street lights, sidewalks, bike lanes, and really working on that based on a category

445
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:51,520
 of improvement. The estimates at completion, like I mentioned, we currently have an RFQ

446
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,120
 out for that and we're excited to have the SOQs for that come back in so we can review

447
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:03,080
 those and hopefully select a firm to do that overall deep dive and review of the estimates

448
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,840
 and completion, set up that methodology and training to help us move forward, and then

449
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:17,520
 also just provide to you a budget update on that quarterly basis of the 2012, 2014, and

450
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,960
 2019 bond programs along with those major roadways that I just mentioned. And with that

451
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,220
 I will take any questions I'm going to take down the screen and I'm happy to answer any

452
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:36,480
 questions that you might have. Thank you for listening. I know that was a very long presentation.

453
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:43,280
 Becky, thank you for that and I've got several questions, particularly surrounding 2012 and

454
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:53,180
 2014 projects and maybe 2012 more than anything else. We're now moving pretty far outside

455
00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:59,800
 of the window that that was supposed to be completed in and we're getting close to the

456
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:07,320
 window because we saw these as six-year packages and you've got some projects that are being

457
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:14,560
 put on hold. I think that when the next bond package comes around and we don't have projects

458
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:22,080
 that were promised completed, we've got a problem. And so I'd like to have a little

459
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,360
 bit of clarity about when particularly the '12 projects and the '14 projects are targeted

460
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,480
 to be finished because I think we've got an issue here.

461
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:41,080
 Sure. Thank you for the question. What we have done is evaluated the overall projects

462
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,160
 that are currently left that you saw in those different phases, whether they're in design

463
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:52,560
 or whether they're in construction. The packages that are currently moving forward, we have

464
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,960
 one that is major roadways, which is currently under construction. We have that package that

465
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:04,140
 I was mentioning, the decision was made to bring that in-house to do design. The original

466
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:10,080
 intention was to take that entire project and execute it as one project. And after I

467
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:15,320
 had an opportunity to evaluate that, talk with our project management staff and also

468
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,680
 our designing staff, we've decided to take that project and break it into three different

469
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:27,120
 sectors in order to try to execute that in a more expeditious manner. And then really

470
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,800
 just kind of overall looking at the projects and the overall schedule and trying to make

471
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,560
 sure that we're meeting the expectations that have been set. Several of the projects that

472
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,260
 are on hold is allowing us an opportunity to look at that overall scope and make sure

473
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:48,620
 that we're approaching these from a more holistic manner. I know that may not answer necessarily

474
00:49:48,620 --> 00:49:55,220
 all of your questions, but I will tell you that it's my responsibility and really my

475
00:49:55,220 --> 00:50:02,800
 goal to evaluate each one of the projects and give you very clear expectations. I understand

476
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,140
 that some of the decisions that were made or different conversations that were made

477
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:11,640
 or dates that were given, I'm really taking a deep dive with our entire department along

478
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,640
 with our finance team to review those projects and make sure that we're setting clear expectations

479
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,640
 for you.

480
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:24,020
 Well, and I guess the expectation that I would want to set as a member of this committee

481
00:50:24,020 --> 00:50:28,400
 and in the original bond committee sort of representing the voters is that these projects

482
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:35,660
 are going to get done and, and shifting, continually shifting how we're going to do them and pushing

483
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:41,240
 them further out, I think is a disservice to the voters in 2012 who voted on those things.

484
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:47,000
 And we, and I think we've got to, we've got to think very seriously about what we're doing

485
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:53,920
 because we also increase the cost on a project when we push it eight, 10 years or more out

486
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,480
 because we've delayed it so much that suddenly, suddenly we haven't, we haven't been able

487
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,760
 to fund a project because we were too slow to get it done. And that's a, that's more

488
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,240
 of a speech than anything else.

489
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:11,280
 Yeah. We'll go back to him and look at the 2012 projects. I mean, we have the same conversations

490
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,800
 internally and remember I've gone back and asked the council for about $40 million the

491
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,400
 last two or three years because these projects in 2017, 18 hadn't even been started. So we're

492
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,960
 cleaning them out. COVID's cost us some time and I think we may just have to wait on this,

493
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:32,120
 you know, getting in and out of the neighborhoods holistically until we get to the 2019 projects,

494
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,320
 but we will have an answer for you the next time we're back here.

495
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,280
 Thank you, Todd. I, and I have just one other, this is, this is just a question of curiosity.

496
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:47,880
 The roundabout, cause I go through the roundabout on a very regular basis, if not daily, is

497
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:55,080
 there, are there plans for public art sculpture in that grassy area at some point? This is

498
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,200
 just a personal desire. So that's why I didn't know what, I didn't know what that space might

499
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,200
 be used for.

500
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:11,680
 I don't know. Is Gary on? We'll get, we'll get you an answer on that.

501
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,880
 The shorter answer is yes. We're going to be doing some landscaping enhancements. We

502
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,640
 do have planned for a future sculpture. We haven't worked on that specific concept yet.

503
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,320
 We're trying to get a couple other sculptures under construction first, but that's in the

504
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,320
 plans.

505
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:33,440
 Great. Great. Thank you.

506
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:41,720
 Alrighty. Does anyone else have any other questions for me?

507
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:48,760
 Yeah. Uh, I've got a few, I'll try to make them quick. Uh, the, so knock the quick one

508
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:54,280
 out first, just out of curiosity. If, if you know, uh, you showed the org chart that had

509
00:52:54,280 --> 00:53:00,320
 developed and the changes there. Do you know where the, uh, transportation planner, uh,

510
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,080
 rec is going to fit into that? Is that within this organization or how does, how is that

511
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,080
 going to work?

512
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,440
 Yes, sir. I absolutely do know that answer. That individual will be a part of our engineering

513
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,120
 division and that position posted on our website this week.

514
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,240
 Okay. So that'll be under the left column in there. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. Uh, and

515
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:23,520
 then the other two, one is, uh, thank you for the, the kind of trying to break up the

516
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:29,360
 large product projects like Bonnie Bray and Hickory Creek. I think that helps a lot. Uh,

517
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:35,760
 I was trying to go through and figure out from the, uh, I guess you would say that the

518
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:44,560
 narrative explanations of funding for some combination of pieces of that project, uh,

519
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:50,640
 and status, uh, and cost estimates of different pieces. And it was very difficult to understand

520
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,440
 what the current status of the cost estimate and where it was going to be funded from on

521
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:00,720
 a per segment basis. So it's more of a suggestion for the future. As you develop that, I think

522
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:06,400
 that would help people understand which ones are, are at risk more just because we don't

523
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,480
 have all the funding identified. Uh, it's kind of hard to tease that out from a high

524
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:18,480
 level so far. Um, and, and on that one, um, the Windsor and Bonnie Bray intersection,

525
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:37,120
 is that going to be included in 6A or 6B? One second. I have to look at the map so I

526
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:44,320
 can clearly answer your question. Yeah, it's, it's that, that area where 6A and 6B meet.

527
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,660
 Right now it's a four way stop. Sure. And you know what? I don't know that we've made

528
00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:52,520
 a determination as to which phase of the project it's in, but I absolutely can look into that

529
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,960
 and get back with you. It was just recent that we've decided to break that project into

530
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:03,480
 the 6A versus the 6B. We had typically been presenting it as a phase six from my understanding.

531
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:09,120
 And so, um, breaking that in was really were to try to work on focusing to get 6B completed

532
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,080
 in coordination with that high school. That's our goal and our hope, but I absolutely can

533
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,600
 get that answer to that question and, and look at that. I'm not sure that we've made

534
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,760
 that final determination yet. It may make more sense to go ahead and try to do that

535
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:27,040
 with 6B specifically because of the high school, but you bring up a very valid point. So we'll

536
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,160
 definitely look into that. Yeah, that's exactly why I mentioned that. Just, I've seen even

537
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,400
 some, some comments from the public and questions recently about that intersection because when

538
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:44,040
 that high school happens to open, it's going to see some peak demand there. Sure. And then

539
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:51,000
 last but not least on the sidewalk projects, I believe, somebody correct me if I'm wrong,

540
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:59,360
 but I believe I read that our latest package of SRTS grants was not granted, that we didn't

541
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:06,640
 meet the COGS. They didn't give us any SRTS grants in the last package. Is that correct?

542
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:12,520
 That is correct. And that's a part of the AIS. Dallas County received all of the grant

543
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,340
 money for this SRTS and, but we'll continue to work to go after that funding as those

544
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:24,360
 opportunities become available. Yeah. I mean, obviously we don't control any of that. But

545
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:31,040
 I just wonder what your impression is from sort of a statewide perspective. My, my impression

546
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:37,800
 is that more cities are passing more bond measures like Austin's Prop B just passed

547
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,400
 that are dumping a lot of bond money into these types of projects that they'll be eligible

548
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:48,560
 to apply for SRTS grants for. And so it seems like there's more dollars competing for the

549
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:57,160
 same number of grant monies. And I wonder whether that changes or should change our strategy

550
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:02,880
 going forward to figure out how to most effectively spend those dollars, right? What I don't want

551
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:09,680
 to see is we have X number of millions of dollars in a bond package, like the 2019 bond

552
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,440
 that we keep submitting projects for and keep getting denied. And the money just sits there

553
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:22,080
 and we don't see any movement on that. Right. But if, if construction of those projects

554
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,440
 can't get an SRTS grant, right, then it may make sense to look at some reprioritization

555
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:33,440
 of that money where it can have a bigger impact if we're having to fund more of the full cost

556
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,640
 of those. So, and I think that's absolutely why we've wanted to approach this kind of

557
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,520
 from a work plan perspective and then evaluate all the different sidewalk projects that we

558
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:49,280
 have, the ones that are in the 2018, 2019, what is a part of a safe routes to school,

559
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,360
 what has CMAC funding and evaluate those so we can kind of find out the best way to move

560
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,360
 forward with those and execute them and really keep them on that list and, and, and know

561
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,200
 when the schedule is going to happen and then which projects actually need the funding.

562
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,960
 So that's really the goal of the overall work plan with that category of improvement.

563
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,640
 Sounds great. Thank you.

564
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,640
 No problem.

565
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:18,000
 Could you, could you share some more of the rationale for breaking up 6A and 6B for Bonnie

566
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,280
 Bray because when we were working through that, the logic was is most of the traffic

567
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:29,640
 would be coming from university and then turning north on Bonnie Bray. And now it sounds like

568
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:36,040
 we're going to focus right in front of the high school, which, but not that segment between

569
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,880
 Windsor and university is, can you?

570
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:47,240
 It's purely a function of how the Council of Governments, we're going after funding

571
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:53,720
 for them and our main contact there, Michael Morris, is, is gotten involved at the request

572
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:59,840
 of DISD to try to have that roadway as complete as possible for the school open. So we, we

573
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:04,160
 are working with them to design it in order to access the purse strings path. So that's

574
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,480
 sort of what's happening. We're about, we're trying to close about a 10 or 12 million dollar

575
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,560
 gap on Bonnie Bray and he's working us through it, but he is also driving the prioritization

576
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,680
 of a vent from the high school up north to 77.

577
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,680
 Okay.

578
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,560
 And that last phase that was shown on the map that I didn't go over, which is phase

579
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:27,240
 seven, is the project that TxDOT has actually taken over, which is from 77 to the loop.

580
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,240
 So.

581
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,240
 Right.

582
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,960
 And one of the other things I want to mention with Eric's questions, you know, one of the

583
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,400
 things that we've been working on behind the scenes, Eric, is in just all the committee

584
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:45,840
 is with DCTA, the mayor and I have been pressuring them very, very hard the last year or so along

585
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:52,120
 with our colleagues in Lewisville, you know, to justify the use of our half cent sales

586
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,120
 tax we send down there when they are clearly not spending it, they just got bailed out

587
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,360
 with another $23 million in CARES Act funding, that sort of thing. So we have been successful

588
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:08,080
 in establishing what's called a TRIP program. It's small transportation improvement projects

589
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:15,400
 and we're taking a look. I've asked the staff to go back. We think that our initial take

590
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,520
 out of that for the next at least two or three years is going to be $2 to $3 million a year,

591
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:24,240
 which we can immediately use to leverage our sidewalk money. So that's kind of how we're

592
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:30,120
 trying to fill in the gaps until we are more successful to save route to school. And DCTA

593
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,240
 has budgeted that pot of money. I think there's an initial $5.5 million in there this next

594
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,520
 year and Lewisville and Denton will receive roughly half of that money each.

595
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:51,440
 Thank you, Todd. Any other questions? Alrighty. Well, I appreciate all of your time. I'm going

596
01:00:51,440 --> 01:01:05,840
 to turn it over now to Mr. Gray. Good afternoon, Scott Gray, Director of

597
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:28,800
 Facilities. Give me just a moment to pull up the presentation.

598
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:45,000
 Okay. I have a couple of projects to update you from the July meeting regarding the fire

599
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:52,720
 station three, which was part of the 2014 bond funding efforts. A couple of things,

600
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,600
 and I won't go into the discussion on the scope schedule budget because Becky did such

601
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:03,000
 a great job with that. I'll just talk about the colors here of what's changed since July.

602
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,040
 With fire station three, the only thing that really changed here was the red budget was

603
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:12,400
 yellow last time. And actually, we're fairly on target. I think we're going to be slightly

604
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,720
 over. We're looking at additional funding opportunities to take care of the overage.

605
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:23,360
 It's a small amount and facilities has already contributed some of our unallocated to cover

606
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:29,480
 a few of the unexpected costs. Really, this project has been going on fairly

607
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:36,440
 well. But the summer, we did have 45 days of weather delays, which has pushed this project

608
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:45,360
 to a completion for the station itself, the new station, to December. And then we will

609
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:53,320
 be doing the demolition and landscaping around for the other location, which should be completely

610
01:02:53,320 --> 01:03:02,080
 completed in February of 2021. We are we did run into a little bit of a challenge

611
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:07,440
 here recently. The millwork subcontractor, which is all the cabinetry and so forth in

612
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:14,320
 station three, unfortunately was let go by the by the contractor because they were significantly

613
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:20,720
 behind. It was going to push the project probably another four to six weeks in delay. So they

614
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:26,360
 found another subcontractor, which happens to be the one working on station eight. And

615
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,840
 those folks have actually already started delivering product and expected remain on

616
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,840
 schedule, even though they got a late start. So that was that was great news. So this project

617
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:41,080
 is is scheduled to be complete for the new station, which I know Chief Hedges decided

618
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:51,760
 about in the December timeframe. So moving on to the 2019 project, it's actually multiple

619
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:57,960
 buildings for the public safety facilities, which is the police headquarters renovation,

620
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:03,760
 the new police substation and fire and range out on vintage. You can see they're all green,

621
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,960
 which they were the last time I presented to you really the only thing that's changed

622
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,640
 here. We had a little bit of a delay in in kicking off this project. We were actually

623
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:17,280
 going to kick off a month or two early. But there were some bidding issues. So the project

624
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:23,620
 was rebid, which actually turned out to be an excellent situation. We have a significant

625
01:04:23,620 --> 01:04:28,880
 amount of subcontractor bids on these projects, which has brought the cost down. So we believe

626
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:36,160
 we will be actually going into this under budget. So far to date, we've we've issued

627
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:41,880
 about seven point three of the sixty one point nine million dollars of bond funds to basically

628
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:50,320
 get through all the design efforts and the bidding efforts. We just received the subcontractors

629
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:56,480
 bids just last week. So they're finalizing those tallies. I know our sub our vendors

630
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:02,120
 going through a number of reviews of those to select the different subcontractors so

631
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:07,440
 we can come back to the council with the guaranteed maximum price where we're currently scheduled

632
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:12,400
 to do that in the first meeting of December. I'm hoping that we can stay on track with

633
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:18,800
 that. So it was a very short presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions that

634
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:38,840
 you may have. OK, hearing none, thank you for the opportunity. OK. That was all of our

635
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:47,360
 presentations for item B. OK, moving on to item C, receive a report, hold a discussion

636
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:52,200
 and get staff direction regarding the reallocation of project funds and the estimated completion

637
01:05:52,200 --> 01:06:02,600
 costs for associated projects. We do have a reallocation request that you saw on your

638
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:23,880
 backup for parks. And so Gary is going to do a brief presentation on that. OK, Gary

639
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,320
 Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation have a very short presentation in regards

640
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:35,360
 to requests for reallocation of two specific park projects. We do have some funding left

641
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:44,160
 over from the bond program that's in the Vela account. We're asking for a transfer of $65,000

642
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:49,360
 of that to the North Lakes Tennis Center project. In fact, both of these are being asked to

643
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:55,080
 go to the North Lakes Tennis Center project for court construction. One component that

644
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:00,960
 we did not anticipate when we're going through the design process was needing to pave a portion

645
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:08,520
 of the airfield driveway that goes into the airfield parking lot and now the dog park

646
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:15,160
 parking lot that currently is gravel. It does get potholes, especially in the spring after

647
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:21,720
 the winter. We are we've planned on our parking lot to put traffic onto that road from the

648
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:27,480
 tennis center. So going through the the planning review process, they've asked us to pave that.

649
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:34,760
 So we do have it as in our bid specs for the bidding of that court, those courts, and we're

650
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,720
 also seeking some internal costs to see if we couldn't do that ourselves. So waiting

651
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:47,520
 on final costs from the internal staff time to build that road, as well as what it would

652
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,040
 cost from from the bidding process. So we're not 100% sure if we're going to need it. But

653
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:58,120
 we wanted to request that to be moved over. So we had it ready to go. And then we're working

654
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:04,000
 to try to close the Vela project itself, the project account out. So we'd like to get that

655
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:12,900
 money reallocated. In addition to that, Carl Young Park, we did have some money that was

656
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:17,920
 left over from the spray ground that we were going to use for the restroom project. We

657
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:24,040
 actually came under budget, our Parks and Recreation maintenance staff built that restroom

658
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,960
 on our own, we did that in house, and we're currently building the one in Quaker town

659
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:33,400
 as well. So we came under budget, so we did not need that reallocation that. So we're

660
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:39,960
 asking that to be moved to North Lakes as well so we could close the Carl Young project.

661
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:55,360
 And that is approximately $13,628. So in total, we're asking for a total of $78,000 to be

662
01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:00,000
 reallocated from the Vela athletic complex, as well as well as a Carl Young Park spray

663
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:06,720
 ground project that we did ask for reallocation to the to the restroom project. So we're asking

664
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:12,240
 for permission from the Bond Oversight Committee to reallocate just just shy of $80,000 over

665
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:21,120
 the North Lakes Park Tennis Center. That concludes the presentation.

666
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:27,960
 Good, Eric. Yeah, Gary, just a question. The slide said

667
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,960
 see map, I wanted to make sure I was referring to the correct location. Is that that that

668
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:39,800
 first picture in the the next following slide here that shows where the tennis courts are?

669
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:45,960
 So is it it's kind of a connection on the southwest edge of the tennis court property?

670
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:57,080
 Is that accurate? Yep. Hang on. Okay, so here's here's the map

671
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,920
 of the facility. This is the master plan. Our main tennis courts. Here's the existing

672
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:07,480
 building in the future parking lot. We're going to pave just shy of where the recycling

673
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:12,240
 kind of turnaround is. So just where this apron is that goes into the parking lot will

674
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:18,000
 be paved approximately in there all the way out to Windsor. And then we had to widen the

675
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,640
 apron on Windsor because it was not to current road standards. So we had to work through

676
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,560
 that. There's an electric pole there in a manhole that we were trying to work around

677
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:33,680
 so we didn't have to move that pole. But that that section will be paved. Okay. I guess

678
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:39,840
 just just one comment. I'm sure you'll have engineering and streets review it. I know

679
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:45,000
 there's several places in town where you have a three way intersection where across the

680
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:51,640
 intersection from the dead end roadway there's a parking lot and a stop sign control at that

681
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,360
 intersection and sometimes it's confusing to drivers who has a stop sign and who doesn't

682
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:04,420
 when they're not thinking of looking at upcoming cars from a parking lot. So I think this will

683
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:09,800
 be less tricky than many places by that because it'll look like a street to for all intents

684
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:19,800
 and purposes. But but yeah, looks good. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? So we

685
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:28,600
 have a request for basically a reallocation of $78,000 and to get a motion. Motion from

686
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:41,040
 Brandon. Second from Tim Crouch. All right. Any other comments or discussion? All in favor

687
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:49,480
 approving the reallocation of $78,000. Probably signify by raising your right hand. Okay.

688
01:11:49,480 --> 01:12:11,720
 Motion carries. Congratulations, Gary. Thank you. So items D receive a report, hold a discussion,

689
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:21,280
 provide information on 2020 adopted tax rate and certified values. Casey Ogden, Director

690
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:27,200
 of Finance. I'm playing musical chairs. I had to switch seats. Let me share my screen

691
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:44,240
 real quick and I will start the presentation. So last time the committee met, we were asked

692
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,440
 to bring back kind of just an update of where we landed with the budget and the tax rate

693
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:53,280
 for this year. So these are the things that will go over the assessed values, the tax

694
01:12:53,280 --> 01:13:01,560
 rate, the debt service, and then the bond issuance schedule. Assess values. The line

695
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:08,260
 represents the actual dollar amount of this, the certified values. The bars represent the

696
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:16,280
 percent change from year to year. So you can see we landed at about 4.5% increase from

697
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:26,600
 the previous year at 13.1. We were projecting 7% pre-COVID. Obviously we were happy that

698
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:32,880
 we saw an increase. But as you remember, it was, we didn't receive our certified values

699
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:41,940
 until very late in September. So we were very unsure of how the budget was going to land.

700
01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:52,000
 So just a little update on the tax rates. We did adopt the same tax rate as 2019. And

701
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:58,720
 you can see there the final certified values as well as the tax rate. You may remember

702
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:04,760
 the no new revenue rate was previously the effective rate. And then the voter approval

703
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:14,720
 rate was the rollback rate. And we landed much less than both of those rates.

704
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:20,920
 So for the tax rate projections and some of our assumptions from the 2019 bond, kind of

705
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:28,120
 when we were putting the bond package together, we came in more favorably with our interest

706
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:35,560
 rate on our bonds. You can see 1.41 is what we actually landed at on our bond sale this

707
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:42,280
 year. But obviously we did less on the AV growth. And then we changed our assumptions

708
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:48,160
 going forward for FY 22 AV growth. And then on the left side of the screen, you can see

709
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:58,400
 the projected debt service rates for the out years. And we did have a half a cent. We shifted

710
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:04,160
 from the O and M rate over to the debt rate this year, but kept the overall the same overall

711
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:14,960
 tax rate. And so with the debt service tax rate, you may remember we had from the 2014

712
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:23,120
 bond election, we anticipated a four cent tax rate increase that we never actually saw.

713
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:28,720
 And then from the 2019 bond election, we are anticipating a three and a half cent increase

714
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:37,520
 over the 2019 debt service rate. And so you can see we're projecting in 2024 and 2025

715
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:46,080
 to hit right at that maximum amount that we were projecting on the debt service tax rate.

716
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:56,000
 As far as debt service, our current debt service payment is right at $27.21 million. And then

717
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:02,680
 you can see the existing debt service in blue with the planned future debt service in orange.

718
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:10,680
 So that that total is increasing over the next couple of years for the bond program.

719
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:18,640
 And just a reminder, the 2019 bond program issuance schedule, we have some significant

720
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:27,160
 bond issuances coming up this year and next year, before we start tapering down. And with

721
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:38,680
 that, I will bring the slide down if you have any questions.

722
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:48,680
 Any questions for the group? I guess I have a question. Do we feel like we're being conservative

723
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:56,200
 enough given all the unknowns? Or are we? We there's a obviously a huge debate as we're

724
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:04,400
 going through the 2019 bond program about the assessed percentage we use. A lot of discussion

725
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,660
 back and forth. I'm feeling like we were a lot wiser to go lower than higher as some

726
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:15,760
 people wanted. But are we too high based on those assumptions today?

727
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,480
 You know, I'll jump in. You know, I think the biggest guess right now is as we look

728
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:26,960
 to next fiscal year, and you saw that we were shown a 3% AV growth next year. And I think

729
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,880
 we talked about this in detail as we went through the process. But especially when you

730
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,240
 hit a recession, it's always a lag time on assessed value. So we're anticipating that

731
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:42,840
 to hit us next year. So as we get closer, we may drop that 3% lower if we think it's

732
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:48,160
 going to be more of a flat AV growth. 3% felt like a comfortable assumption at this time.

733
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,240
 But that'll be one that we're just continuing to monitor. As we look in the out years, I

734
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,560
 think I think the 5% is still fine. And we're talking two, three years down the road, assuming

735
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,660
 that the economy gets gets back on track, but it is definitely going to be a moving

736
01:18:00,660 --> 01:18:03,640
 target, especially just given the turbulent environment we're in.

737
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:12,760
 I think I think we're gonna have a hard time answering that question, Pat. I mean, we were

738
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,040
 up to like the last day or two before we had to adopt the budget before we even got our

739
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:22,400
 tax rules. And we honestly have no idea how they came up with that number at the end of

740
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,760
 the we were just it changed our assumptions. But we haven't been able to get an explanation

741
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:33,840
 of how they arrived at that four and a half percent. And, you know, what I can tell you

742
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,960
 is on the the building permit side of the house, we're not slowing down at all. I know

743
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:44,240
 that. So that's that's great news. So that's the other factor in all this. We're not seeing

744
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:49,840
 property values decline, and we're in development services is just as busy as they have been

745
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,640
 the last couple of years. So it's just an odd thing right now. And we're hoping that

746
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:59,100
 the appraisal district can provide us a little bit better information and obviously a much

747
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:04,720
 more much better lead time this next year. But we are we came out of this last budget

748
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,320
 with really no answers as to how they work through this process.

749
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,600
 Okay, you know, another thing we've done on our projections is lower our collection percentage

750
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:19,320
 typically it's right at 100 percent each year we've lowered that to 95 96 percent just going

751
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,320
 out and be out here just anticipating that given where we are right now, payments might

752
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,800
 not be up to that hundred percent level. So we're we're tweaking where we can to be more

753
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:33,240
 conservative on those projections. That's a great call. We we do that for our pledges.

754
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:43,120
 We discount them just to factor in bad pledge payments or unpaid taxes. And, you know, I

755
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:49,000
 think that's a huge question, Mark, as you guys already said. So gentlemen, ladies, any

756
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:56,680
 other questions for? Yeah, I guess I'll just say on the tax rates and everything, the thing

757
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:02,280
 that scares me is that, you know, the no new tax rate actually went up compared to

758
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:10,280
 last year, which suggests an overall decline in the value of existing properties, you know,

759
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:19,400
 requiring new growth. And when I pulled data from from the county, it it looks like in

760
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:25,520
 general the residential housing properties had continued to go up. But there have been

761
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,840
 a lot of commercial properties that have been reappraised significantly lower. So I'll be

762
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:37,020
 interested to see if that trend continues next year. And the concern is just that that

763
01:20:37,020 --> 01:20:44,700
 even though the rate may not change, the valuations of of the ratio of residential to commercial

764
01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:54,260
 may start to put more pressure on homeowners as we go forward. So, you know, Eric, I think

765
01:20:54,260 --> 01:20:59,800
 that's a good point. I would just even more when we calculate the no new revenue rate,

766
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,760
 which actually is calculated by the county, we were good. They have to do that early in

767
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:09,160
 the process. And we're going by inconsistent information we got from the appraisal district.

768
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:13,680
 So really, it is, as Todd said, it's just tough to look back and try to see a clear

769
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,720
 picture of what happened. So we're really hoping as we go in the next year, it'll be

770
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:28,720
 a little more straightforward. Yeah. All right. So any other further discussion or questions?

771
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:39,520
 Can I get a motion to adjourn? Thank you, Tim. Thank you very much. And Cassie, Casey,

772
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:46,680
 when do you think we'll probably do this again? Ballpark? I'm looking at February right now.

773
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:52,400
 We'd like to start meeting quarterly. So with our next meeting in February, if that works

774
01:21:52,400 --> 01:22:00,400
 for everyone's calendars. Works good. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Take care. Thank you.