WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 - Nine o'clock and we have a quorum, a virtual quorum. 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:12.780 So we'll call to order the October 26, 2020 00:00:12.780 --> 00:00:15.060 public utility board meeting. 00:00:15.060 --> 00:00:18.180 The first item is the consent agenda items A through D. 00:00:18.180 --> 00:00:20.840 Does any board member wish to pull any item? 00:00:20.840 --> 00:00:25.180 Billy, go ahead. 00:00:25.180 --> 00:00:27.020 - I'd like to pull item A. 00:00:27.020 --> 00:00:27.980 - A. 00:00:27.980 --> 00:00:29.780 - Yes, A is an alpha. 00:00:29.780 --> 00:00:33.940 And then Ed, same one, okay. 00:00:33.940 --> 00:00:38.940 All right, how about motion to approve items B, C and D. 00:00:38.940 --> 00:00:42.580 - I move we approve those items. 00:00:42.580 --> 00:00:46.180 - All in favor say I. 00:00:46.180 --> 00:00:47.500 - I. 00:00:47.500 --> 00:00:50.440 - Opposed, item A. 00:00:50.440 --> 00:00:53.280 - Ed, go ahead. 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.100 - Oh, you want me to go ahead? 00:00:56.100 --> 00:00:58.520 Okay, I just had a couple of questions. 00:01:00.380 --> 00:01:05.380 Are recyclables included in the total amount 00:01:05.380 --> 00:01:07.740 of disposed waste? 00:01:07.740 --> 00:01:10.180 - I'm gonna ask Brian Borner who should be on the line 00:01:10.180 --> 00:01:11.620 to respond to that. 00:01:11.620 --> 00:01:12.940 - Thank you. 00:01:12.940 --> 00:01:13.780 - Good morning, sir. 00:01:13.780 --> 00:01:15.540 This is Brian Borner, director of solid waste 00:01:15.540 --> 00:01:17.380 to the city of Denton. 00:01:17.380 --> 00:01:21.540 The fee or tax that the state charges 00:01:21.540 --> 00:01:24.860 is only for items that are disposed. 00:01:24.860 --> 00:01:28.260 So the material that actually enters the landfill, 00:01:28.260 --> 00:01:30.740 anything that we're able to divert, 00:01:30.740 --> 00:01:32.940 whether it's from our bins on the curb 00:01:32.940 --> 00:01:35.260 or the yard waste program, 00:01:35.260 --> 00:01:39.500 that tonnage is not accounted for in this calculation. 00:01:39.500 --> 00:01:42.100 - Okay, so would I be correct in assuming 00:01:42.100 --> 00:01:46.580 that if the city did ramp up a really comprehensive 00:01:46.580 --> 00:01:50.860 composting program that it would reduce 00:01:50.860 --> 00:01:56.080 this annual tax to the TCEQ? 00:01:56.980 --> 00:01:59.940 - If we did that, did something with relation 00:01:59.940 --> 00:02:02.900 to big metals, textile recycling, 00:02:02.900 --> 00:02:06.340 anything that diverts tonnage from the landfill, 00:02:06.340 --> 00:02:07.860 again, would reduce this. 00:02:07.860 --> 00:02:10.980 But again, this is not in addition 00:02:10.980 --> 00:02:13.660 to what the landfill pays. 00:02:13.660 --> 00:02:18.420 I can equate this to the taxes you pay 00:02:18.420 --> 00:02:21.760 when you purchase fuel for your vehicle. 00:02:21.760 --> 00:02:24.620 You pay, let's say, $2 a gallon, 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:28.900 almost 45 cents of that is actually state 00:02:28.900 --> 00:02:30.740 and then federal fees. 00:02:30.740 --> 00:02:33.380 You never see it, there's not a tax for it. 00:02:33.380 --> 00:02:35.600 Same thing with our landfill gate rates. 00:02:35.600 --> 00:02:39.260 If we send zero to the landfill, we pay zero to the state. 00:02:39.260 --> 00:02:44.260 If we send 100 tons, then we pay the 94 cents per ton 00:02:44.260 --> 00:02:47.260 on that 100 ton valuation. 00:02:47.260 --> 00:02:51.180 - So conceivably then, if there were a robust 00:02:51.180 --> 00:02:55.120 food waste recycling or composting program 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.100 would reduce that fee because the tonnage 00:02:58.100 --> 00:03:00.380 would be less going into the landfill. 00:03:00.380 --> 00:03:03.700 Is that a safe assumption to make? 00:03:03.700 --> 00:03:05.260 - That is a correct statement, but again, 00:03:05.260 --> 00:03:08.140 it's net neutral to the revenue of the city of Denton. 00:03:08.140 --> 00:03:10.620 - Okay, thank you. 00:03:10.620 --> 00:03:15.780 - Billy, did you have a different question? 00:03:15.780 --> 00:03:18.980 - Yes, I knew the heads would be smarter than mine, 00:03:18.980 --> 00:03:21.540 so I'll let him go first. 00:03:21.540 --> 00:03:25.620 I have a two-fold question. 00:03:25.620 --> 00:03:29.580 For that said quarter, I'm assuming that means 00:03:29.580 --> 00:03:34.180 there's around 450,000, 440 something thousand tons 00:03:34.180 --> 00:03:36.140 or 460,000 tons. 00:03:36.140 --> 00:03:42.500 What were the revenues for that said quarter 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:45.260 and do we have an estimate of what the outside 00:03:45.260 --> 00:03:49.500 sourced material coming in from that quarter might be? 00:03:49.500 --> 00:03:55.820 - That's a really good question and in most quarters, 00:03:55.820 --> 00:03:58.900 about half is what is called outside waste, 00:03:58.900 --> 00:04:02.240 either from our third party haulers under contract 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.740 or just your mom and pops that are coming, 00:04:04.740 --> 00:04:07.740 hauling material here coming across the scale. 00:04:07.740 --> 00:04:11.040 The remainder of it comes from within the city of Denton. 00:04:11.040 --> 00:04:14.880 And again, seasonally it ebbs and flows, 00:04:14.880 --> 00:04:19.880 but again the roughly 460,000 tons that this would equate 00:04:19.880 --> 00:04:26.580 to is about 100,000 tons on average per quarter. 00:04:26.580 --> 00:04:33.420 - It was 94 cents a ton, I thought. 00:04:33.420 --> 00:04:34.440 - That is correct. 00:04:34.440 --> 00:04:39.100 - So okay, I'm sorry, you're saying 100,000 tons 00:04:39.100 --> 00:04:42.060 of that is probably outside waste or mom and pop, 00:04:42.060 --> 00:04:43.740 we don't know where it came from. 00:04:43.740 --> 00:04:45.260 - Well, it's half of that. 00:04:45.260 --> 00:04:48.100 Again, half of our tonnage comes in from outside 00:04:48.100 --> 00:04:54.500 the city of Denton and it could just be the person 00:04:54.500 --> 00:04:58.700 that lives right across the city limits area. 00:04:58.700 --> 00:05:02.540 We have mom and pops and just residents of Lewisville 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:04.860 and Aubrey and Pilot Point and Sanger and Valley View 00:05:04.860 --> 00:05:07.220 that put things in the back of their cars, 00:05:07.220 --> 00:05:08.260 their trucks and bring it here. 00:05:08.260 --> 00:05:10.900 And then we also have the contract waste haulers. 00:05:10.900 --> 00:05:13.380 So about half of any of the material 00:05:13.380 --> 00:05:16.460 that's coming in in any given quarter 00:05:16.460 --> 00:05:21.140 will be roughly waste from outside the city of Denton. 00:05:21.140 --> 00:05:25.740 - Okay, all right. 00:05:25.740 --> 00:05:27.500 I'm not a big fan of that. 00:05:27.500 --> 00:05:33.220 I realize it generates revenues, 00:05:33.220 --> 00:05:36.700 but I've always been a fan of prolonging the life 00:05:36.700 --> 00:05:39.020 of the existing landfill rather than 00:05:41.260 --> 00:05:43.300 letting other folks come in. 00:05:43.300 --> 00:05:46.540 Obviously there's a monetary factor there 00:05:46.540 --> 00:05:48.740 and there's an environmental factor as well. 00:05:48.740 --> 00:05:54.540 So anyway, thank you for your answers. 00:05:54.540 --> 00:05:55.620 - Thank you. 00:05:55.620 --> 00:05:57.860 - Karen, did you have a question? 00:05:57.860 --> 00:05:58.700 - You're muted. 00:05:58.700 --> 00:06:03.860 - You're muted, Karen. 00:06:03.860 --> 00:06:05.160 - Sorry, there we go. 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:08.620 I just wanna say I had no idea the amount 00:06:08.620 --> 00:06:10.620 from outside was that much. 00:06:10.620 --> 00:06:11.780 I had no idea. 00:06:11.780 --> 00:06:14.660 That just changes the picture for me completely 00:06:14.660 --> 00:06:19.060 on those contracts that we just approved for the rates. 00:06:19.060 --> 00:06:20.660 I think we just changed the rates 00:06:20.660 --> 00:06:23.180 at which outside Denton people 00:06:23.180 --> 00:06:26.660 were bringing stuff to the landfill. 00:06:26.660 --> 00:06:28.420 We just approved, I think a rate increase, 00:06:28.420 --> 00:06:29.380 I don't remember exactly, 00:06:29.380 --> 00:06:32.880 but we addressed that at the PUB and I had no idea. 00:06:32.880 --> 00:06:36.260 It was so, thanks for bringing that up, Billy and Ed, 00:06:36.260 --> 00:06:39.260 because that's a game changer for me. 00:06:39.260 --> 00:06:42.220 I think it's half of what's going into our landfill 00:06:42.220 --> 00:06:44.220 is from non-City of Denton people 00:06:44.220 --> 00:06:48.860 for a municipal utility. 00:06:48.860 --> 00:06:51.380 Doesn't seem like our job to take care of Lewisville. 00:06:51.380 --> 00:06:54.500 So anyway, thanks to you guys for bringing that up. 00:06:54.500 --> 00:07:00.360 All right, do we have a motion to approve? 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.700 - So moved. 00:07:03.700 --> 00:07:08.100 - Did you say second, Billy? 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:09.840 - Will. 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:11.100 - Second. 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:12.740 - All in favor say aye. 00:07:12.740 --> 00:07:13.980 - Aye. 00:07:13.980 --> 00:07:14.820 - Opposed? 00:07:14.820 --> 00:07:17.020 Motion carries. 00:07:17.020 --> 00:07:22.100 Next item is consideration approval 00:07:22.100 --> 00:07:24.700 of the October 12th, 2020 minutes. 00:07:24.700 --> 00:07:26.600 Do we have a motion to approve those? 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:31.460 Ed's motioned and a second? 00:07:31.460 --> 00:07:33.900 - Second. 00:07:33.900 --> 00:07:35.780 - Okay, we'll give it to Karen. 00:07:35.780 --> 00:07:37.060 You both said it at the same time. 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:38.580 All in favor say aye. 00:07:38.580 --> 00:07:39.420 - Aye. 00:07:39.420 --> 00:07:41.200 - Opposed? 00:07:41.200 --> 00:07:43.540 Okay, then management reports. 00:07:43.540 --> 00:07:44.740 - So on your management reports, 00:07:44.740 --> 00:07:48.140 we didn't have any specific memos this week. 00:07:48.140 --> 00:07:52.540 Although I did send you guys a email on Friday 00:07:52.540 --> 00:07:56.780 regarding the transmission cost of service for DME 00:07:56.780 --> 00:08:00.820 and we'll be bringing you additional information on that 00:08:00.820 --> 00:08:02.780 on December 14th, when we come back to you 00:08:02.780 --> 00:08:05.500 and I do a year end wrap up discussion 00:08:05.500 --> 00:08:08.420 on where the utilities ended up. 00:08:08.420 --> 00:08:10.020 We will have a discussion with you 00:08:10.020 --> 00:08:12.580 about what potential impacts that may be having. 00:08:12.580 --> 00:08:17.620 Again, we're required by November of 2021 00:08:17.620 --> 00:08:20.260 to submit that application 00:08:20.260 --> 00:08:22.540 to the Public Utility Commission of Texas. 00:08:22.540 --> 00:08:24.780 The other item that's on here for December 14th 00:08:24.780 --> 00:08:26.580 is an item from our engineering group 00:08:26.580 --> 00:08:28.580 to discuss construction specifications 00:08:28.580 --> 00:08:30.900 and standard details. 00:08:30.900 --> 00:08:33.940 There'll be a work session on that. 00:08:33.940 --> 00:08:37.980 And then the next item is the new business action items. 00:08:37.980 --> 00:08:41.140 I just wanted to make sure that we were all on board 00:08:41.140 --> 00:08:44.540 with the first item having been completed 00:08:44.540 --> 00:08:48.700 on the request for the lawsuit at DME. 00:08:48.700 --> 00:08:49.860 And so I just wanna make sure 00:08:49.860 --> 00:08:51.380 that we're all good with that. 00:08:51.380 --> 00:08:55.380 And then the only item that we have remaining 00:08:55.380 --> 00:08:57.020 is a discussion pilot project 00:08:57.020 --> 00:08:59.540 on recycling residential composting. 00:08:59.540 --> 00:09:02.900 So with that, that concludes our management report. 00:09:02.900 --> 00:09:04.580 If you have any questions. 00:09:04.580 --> 00:09:07.100 - Robert, do you have a question? 00:09:07.100 --> 00:09:08.020 You're on mute. 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:19.780 - Here we go. 00:09:19.780 --> 00:09:21.900 That report that you have to file 00:09:21.900 --> 00:09:24.300 from the Public Utility Commission, 00:09:24.300 --> 00:09:26.460 that seemed rather extensive. 00:09:26.460 --> 00:09:28.740 Do they usually not give you much? 00:09:28.740 --> 00:09:32.620 I would think you would get more time for that. 00:09:32.620 --> 00:09:35.220 Is that short of short notice or? 00:09:35.220 --> 00:09:37.940 - Well, we did not get a notice. 00:09:37.940 --> 00:09:42.060 I happened to find out two days before that hearing 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:44.260 that that actually had been filed. 00:09:44.260 --> 00:09:46.500 And so we had a pretty robust conversation 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:48.740 with our consultants about making sure 00:09:48.740 --> 00:09:51.780 that they're keeping an eye on that for us going forward. 00:09:51.780 --> 00:09:53.020 But we did participate in that. 00:09:53.020 --> 00:09:56.180 Terry Nolte provided a little bit of testimony 00:09:56.180 --> 00:09:58.620 to the commission, requested additional time 00:09:58.620 --> 00:09:59.940 and that was denied. 00:09:59.940 --> 00:10:04.060 The chair of the commission was pretty clear 00:10:04.060 --> 00:10:06.260 in her opening remarks on that item 00:10:06.260 --> 00:10:10.140 that we were gonna be called in for a full rate case. 00:10:10.140 --> 00:10:12.740 And so that's been decided. 00:10:12.740 --> 00:10:14.980 And so we're gonna be working 00:10:14.980 --> 00:10:18.380 with some extra consultants to go through that process. 00:10:18.380 --> 00:10:22.260 It has been 15 years since DME has done a full rate case, 00:10:22.260 --> 00:10:24.220 although we've been pretty diligent 00:10:24.220 --> 00:10:27.100 on submitting interim rate filings every year, 00:10:27.100 --> 00:10:28.060 at least once a year. 00:10:28.060 --> 00:10:29.820 And so they know what we're doing 00:10:29.820 --> 00:10:31.620 and they're very familiar. 00:10:31.620 --> 00:10:35.220 But unfortunately, that 28% rate of return, 00:10:35.220 --> 00:10:39.460 which is really a product of the method 00:10:39.460 --> 00:10:42.180 that's being utilized is somewhat deceiving. 00:10:42.180 --> 00:10:44.980 And I think they've kind of hung on to that. 00:10:44.980 --> 00:10:46.980 It wouldn't be a surprise for you to hear 00:10:46.980 --> 00:10:49.260 that the commission staff was intent 00:10:49.260 --> 00:10:52.500 of getting rid of that methodology that we've been using, 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:54.100 but they weren't successful. 00:10:54.100 --> 00:10:55.580 And so we're gonna work with someone to come in 00:10:55.580 --> 00:10:58.140 and help us kind of go through the various methodologies, 00:10:58.140 --> 00:11:01.820 make sure that we protect our utility 00:11:01.820 --> 00:11:04.220 and also our rate payers as best we can 00:11:04.220 --> 00:11:05.900 and then take that forward. 00:11:05.900 --> 00:11:10.620 - It seemed like it was short notice. 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:12.380 - Yes, ma'am. 00:11:12.380 --> 00:11:15.460 - Thank you. 00:11:15.460 --> 00:11:18.020 - Billy? 00:11:18.020 --> 00:11:19.220 - Just to follow up on that. 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:25.260 In our history, I have been told through staff, of course, 00:11:25.260 --> 00:11:26.540 not my education. 00:11:28.300 --> 00:11:30.860 That we were always worried about going back 00:11:30.860 --> 00:11:32.820 for rate case study, 00:11:32.820 --> 00:11:34.340 because we thought that we were getting 00:11:34.340 --> 00:11:39.180 a pretty good return with what we were getting 00:11:39.180 --> 00:11:41.660 without producing new transmission lines. 00:11:41.660 --> 00:11:46.660 But is that a concern that that 28, is it 28.5? 00:11:46.660 --> 00:11:50.060 - It's 28.05. 00:11:50.060 --> 00:11:52.820 I would tell you that our effective rate of return 00:11:52.820 --> 00:11:54.980 has really been more like 16 to 19%. 00:11:54.980 --> 00:11:57.180 So we've certainly been well below that. 00:11:57.180 --> 00:11:59.620 So I think there's probably some room there 00:11:59.620 --> 00:12:01.300 that if they were to come down, 00:12:01.300 --> 00:12:05.020 we'd probably be a revenue neutral impact to us. 00:12:05.020 --> 00:12:08.300 I think where those statements have come from 00:12:08.300 --> 00:12:12.660 has really been what other IOUs and MOUs, 00:12:12.660 --> 00:12:17.660 non IOUs have seen recently in single digit rate of returns. 00:12:17.660 --> 00:12:21.860 And so I think that's where the potential danger is. 00:12:21.860 --> 00:12:26.300 But again, we're one of very few, as I understand, 00:12:26.300 --> 00:12:29.140 entities that use this cashflow methodology. 00:12:29.140 --> 00:12:31.420 So I think once we look at the other methodologies, 00:12:31.420 --> 00:12:35.300 there's one methodology that only IOUs can utilize 00:12:35.300 --> 00:12:37.260 so that won't be available to us. 00:12:37.260 --> 00:12:39.260 But we'll go through all three of them. 00:12:39.260 --> 00:12:42.940 There's a potential here that from a cashflow standpoint, 00:12:42.940 --> 00:12:44.540 it may still be a net neutral, 00:12:44.540 --> 00:12:46.500 even if it's a lower rate of return. 00:12:46.500 --> 00:12:49.300 I think at the end, if that's what happens, 00:12:49.300 --> 00:12:51.260 we'll probably be in good footing. 00:12:51.260 --> 00:12:53.820 But until we go through those calculations, Billy, 00:12:53.820 --> 00:12:55.260 still unknown. 00:12:56.380 --> 00:12:57.500 - Got a question? 00:12:57.500 --> 00:12:59.020 - Thanks, Tony. - Go ahead. 00:12:59.020 --> 00:13:02.180 - Tony, for the sake of people who might be watching this 00:13:02.180 --> 00:13:03.100 and might not know, 00:13:03.100 --> 00:13:06.380 what basically is this cost of service study about 00:13:06.380 --> 00:13:09.860 and what is its purpose? 00:13:09.860 --> 00:13:13.740 - Well, so the city invests in transmission assets 00:13:13.740 --> 00:13:18.060 that go to benefit the entire Archive grid. 00:13:18.060 --> 00:13:23.060 And so all users of that system pay for a portion 00:13:24.060 --> 00:13:26.260 of those transmission assets. 00:13:26.260 --> 00:13:29.860 And so this is really a return on the city's investment 00:13:29.860 --> 00:13:33.740 for making these types of asset investments 00:13:33.740 --> 00:13:37.460 that go to benefit all the ERCOT system, 00:13:37.460 --> 00:13:39.380 not just the municipal electric. 00:13:39.380 --> 00:13:43.020 And so it gets passed through to everyone. 00:13:43.020 --> 00:13:45.060 Likewise, there's assets that we utilize 00:13:45.060 --> 00:13:47.180 that don't belong to the city of Denton 00:13:47.180 --> 00:13:48.580 that we also compensate. 00:13:48.580 --> 00:13:52.500 And you'll see some of those payment authorizations 00:13:52.500 --> 00:13:57.460 coming to you here in the next meeting or so. 00:13:57.460 --> 00:14:00.740 So we invest in transmission assets 00:14:00.740 --> 00:14:01.580 that benefit the system, 00:14:01.580 --> 00:14:03.740 but we also benefit from investments of others. 00:14:03.740 --> 00:14:04.780 And so it's a way for us 00:14:04.780 --> 00:14:08.020 to kind of improve the overall system. 00:14:08.020 --> 00:14:09.300 - Thanks. - Yes, sir. 00:14:09.300 --> 00:14:15.020 - Then it's concluding items. 00:14:15.020 --> 00:14:18.740 Does any board member wish to have a future agenda item 00:14:18.740 --> 00:14:21.740 or have any comments to make at this point? 00:14:21.740 --> 00:14:23.260 Go ahead, Billy. 00:14:23.260 --> 00:14:24.500 - Thank you, Susan. 00:14:24.500 --> 00:14:26.300 Okay, so in the discussion 00:14:26.300 --> 00:14:28.740 of the outside waste of the landfill, 00:14:28.740 --> 00:14:31.540 and I think maybe, and I will, 00:14:31.540 --> 00:14:35.380 obviously the council may want to look at this as well, 00:14:35.380 --> 00:14:38.220 but I'd like to be able to give them 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:41.020 a good recommendation going forward 00:14:41.020 --> 00:14:44.300 of what we might want to do about the outside waste, 00:14:44.300 --> 00:14:47.380 what that effect is on the life of the landfill, number one. 00:14:47.380 --> 00:14:50.860 Number two, what's the effect of revenues? 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:53.100 Because I realized that will cost 00:14:53.100 --> 00:14:55.460 the current taxpayers more. 00:14:55.460 --> 00:14:59.020 That's the downfall of eliminating 00:14:59.020 --> 00:15:01.220 or reducing outside waste. 00:15:01.220 --> 00:15:07.260 And obviously, if we are gonna take outside waste, 00:15:07.260 --> 00:15:09.100 should we raise those rates? 00:15:09.100 --> 00:15:13.700 And the effect of raising those rates 00:15:13.700 --> 00:15:15.660 on whether they'll come or not. 00:15:19.420 --> 00:15:22.060 - And will that be a part of the solid waste management 00:15:22.060 --> 00:15:25.700 plan update that we're currently working on? 00:15:25.700 --> 00:15:29.660 - I think I'll-- - This is Brian Burner. 00:15:29.660 --> 00:15:30.860 - No, go ahead, Brian. 00:15:30.860 --> 00:15:32.660 - Yeah, this is Brian Burner again. 00:15:32.660 --> 00:15:37.140 Revenues and cost of service will be evaluated 00:15:37.140 --> 00:15:38.700 as part of the solid waste strategy 00:15:38.700 --> 00:15:42.060 and looking at where our waste is coming from 00:15:42.060 --> 00:15:46.340 and how it's managed from a waste shed standpoint, 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:48.020 that will be part of the evaluation 00:15:48.020 --> 00:15:49.940 of the solid waste management strategy. 00:15:49.940 --> 00:15:53.420 - Okay, does that satisfy you, Billy? 00:15:53.420 --> 00:15:55.580 - I think so. 00:15:55.580 --> 00:15:58.180 I just like to make sure it's specific to that category 00:15:58.180 --> 00:16:02.380 and hopefully that's taken out into a separate category 00:16:02.380 --> 00:16:03.580 because I know that's a big deal 00:16:03.580 --> 00:16:06.900 and it was a discussion we had 15 years ago as well. 00:16:06.900 --> 00:16:10.420 - I have a question. 00:16:10.420 --> 00:16:11.260 - Yes, go ahead. 00:16:11.260 --> 00:16:16.740 - Correct me if I'm wrong, the current contracts 00:16:16.740 --> 00:16:19.900 with outside haulers are for three years. 00:16:19.900 --> 00:16:20.780 Is that correct? 00:16:20.780 --> 00:16:24.100 And how many? 00:16:24.100 --> 00:16:27.220 - That is correct. 00:16:27.220 --> 00:16:29.620 - And how many, I know there was, 00:16:29.620 --> 00:16:33.580 how many are there? 00:16:33.580 --> 00:16:34.420 How many haulers? 00:16:34.420 --> 00:16:38.060 - There are six contracts that we have, 00:16:38.060 --> 00:16:40.580 four haulers and two municipalities. 00:16:40.580 --> 00:16:45.580 - And I remember I recall asking quite a while ago 00:16:45.940 --> 00:16:50.500 and I don't think the matter had not been settled 00:16:50.500 --> 00:16:55.260 but no one could tell at that point 00:16:55.260 --> 00:17:03.500 which haulers were bringing recycled material 00:17:03.500 --> 00:17:04.860 and which haulers weren't 00:17:04.860 --> 00:17:09.860 or if the materials had not been recycled. 00:17:09.860 --> 00:17:14.420 You said somebody, perhaps it was you, I don't recall, 00:17:14.420 --> 00:17:16.940 I apologize, but said that that was something 00:17:16.940 --> 00:17:18.220 that had to be worked out. 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:20.860 So basically what I'm asking in a broad way 00:17:20.860 --> 00:17:23.860 is are there any recycling requirements 00:17:23.860 --> 00:17:29.700 for this outside garbage? 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:35.540 Does that make any sense? 00:17:35.540 --> 00:17:40.860 - It does, Ed, we can certainly get you that information 00:17:40.860 --> 00:17:43.220 as part of bringing this back. 00:17:43.220 --> 00:17:44.700 - Okay, I appreciate it greatly. 00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:45.520 Thank you. 00:17:45.520 --> 00:17:52.220 - I guess there are no other items. 00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:54.100 Do we have a motion to adjourn? 00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:56.980 - I move we adjourn. 00:17:56.980 --> 00:17:57.820 - All right. 00:17:57.820 --> 00:17:58.660 - Second. 00:17:58.660 --> 00:17:59.900 - There we go. 00:17:59.900 --> 00:18:00.740 See you later. 00:18:00.740 --> 00:18:01.580 - Thank you all. 00:18:01.580 --> 00:18:02.420 - Thank you, special records. 00:18:02.420 --> 00:18:03.260 - Thank you. 00:18:03.260 --> 00:18:04.100 - Take care.