you sorry your video froze on my end I apologize okay well welcome to our
September 17th 2020 meeting appreciate those who are here it looks like we do
have a quorum now and we'll try to do this meeting officially today so with
our first item for consideration is item a TSC oh well do we need to first
approve the meat the meeting minutes yeah so item TSC 20 - 0 1 6 is to prove
the minutes from July 20 2020 and so I just need a motion to approve those
minutes I motion to approve the moments the minutes all all in seconds we have a
motion from Melissa and a second from Clay all in favor hi actually sorry I've
got a I've got to stop you there because we're we're doing it like this you've
got to do it you've got to go down the roll of those who are here okay okay so
I can get Melissa yes I just need to say my name is that what's happening I'm
Melissa car here no no it just he's got it he's got to take the vote that way
it's not like a yeah so your present absent thing it's just a as we're doing
the votes he's got to call you out one at a time and you can say aye or yes sir
or in favor of yes yeah so yeah yeah your name yes or no
okay just go around so Melissa yeah Clay yeah Connie okay and I think that's all
of our council members we have in attendance correct I'm not I want to
make sure I'm not missing anyone well plus yourself and plus myself I vote yay
thank you I'm here also so okay so the minutes approve so we'll move on to the
TSC 20 - zero one seven receive report and hold a discussion and give staff
direction regarding the development of an ordinance allowing golf carts to
travel on city streets thank you mr. chairman Brian yawn city traffic
engineer can you see the screen yes awesome so we're here today to talk
about golf carts and their place on city streets we've had a number of requests
over the past six actually started before Corona so probably close to a
year now requesting the city adopt an ordinance allowing the use of golf carts
on city streets primarily coming from the universities both universities like
to use the golf carts to maneuver around campus and most of the streets through
their campuses or city streets so it's generating the need so can a golf cart
use a city street yes the transportation code does allow limited use of golf
carts on city streets a golf cart and I can read this but basically if you're in
a master plan community on a golf course or on a public or private beach that's
one time you can use a golf cart on the street if you're honest if you're if
you're driving from your residence to a golf course that is less than two miles
from where your house or where the golf cart is normally placed and the roadway
is 35 miles an hour less you can by right use a golf cart on a and then the
third in which is kind of why we're here today is City Council made by
ordinance authorized golf cart use on city streets with some limitations and
we can talk about the limitations as you have that you know basically it has to
be a 35 mile an hour slower street so one of the stipulations is you have to
have a valid driver's license and liability insurance you have to add some
safety equipment that may or may not come as standard equipment on all golf
carts but there are stipulations that allow the golf cart to function more as
a vehicle than a golf cart because typically on a golf course you don't
need headlights and breaking lights and mirrors and so and then this is what
we're hearing again today well take it back this is a can we can we prohibit
golf carts so that's the complete hundred and eighty of what we're here
today for is can we by ordinance prohibit golf carts and the answer is
yes same same statutes that are listed in the transportation code so what would
be the advantages or disadvantages of allowing golf carts or using golf carts
on city streets versus a vehicle so one of the arguments from the golf cart user
is they're relatively inexpensive to own and operate so I'd rather than have it
by a vehicle if I wanted or something else if I wanted to drive say around
campus I'm UNT or MTW I can buy a fleet vehicle like a pickup or a sedan and I
can drive that up and down this you know the short trips that typically they make
or I can have a fleet of very small very efficient electric golf carts and they
have the range and the ability to do what I need to do with a lot less of a
footprint so golf carts do well for short trips much much better than a
vehicle easier to park environmentally friendly quiet if we're talking electric
more maneuverable typically than a normal vehicle and again the take up
less room in parking and again electric charging for a standard outlet the
disadvantages is the disadvantages are fairly limited travel speed so typically
an electric golf cart might top out around 25 miles an hour and again that
restricts the type of roads that we really want to put them on we don't want
them golf cart on University it just would not be appropriate they've got a
limited range for the charge versus a normal vehicle with a full tank of gas
even on a full charge they're gonna go 40 miles or less which means you have to
charge them more frequently again the low speeds have little the lower speed
vehicles have lower safety standards and passenger cars and this is what I was
talking about earlier most golf carts don't come with a lot of safety features
because they're not intended to be driven on a city street or operated as
a private vehicle on a roadway and then again they just lack general accepted
safety rating system so there's no crash tests they don't they don't have the
dummies and the crash test course established for golf carts or low speed
vehicle that's the other acronym that we'll use so why we're here today with
these things in mind and we can have a much more robust discussion when I'm
done but we want to determine if the city of Denton desires a golf cart
ordinance do we want to allow by right golf carts to use city streets with the
restrictions that we will place on using you know once we craft an ordinance we
can place whatever restrictions we want 35 mile an hour less to have to have a
driver's license I have to have liability insurance the carts themselves
have to have enhanced safety features seat belts we can craft whatever
stipulations we want there are plenty of places that have done this so we have a
lot of go-bys so that's the first question is do we want to pursue golf
carts on city streets if the answer is yes we will proceed with the ordinance
development in fact I've already in doing some of the research I've already
started kind of putting together the elements that I think would be
appropriate we will bring those back to you in a future Commission meeting and
then once that is adopted or approved by this group we'll take that to council
for consideration as well so with that I'll open the floor I'll stop sharing my
screen and we can talk about golf carts and city streets it looks like most
people are muted so if you yeah if anyone has if anyone has a question they
may other counselors may go ahead are they are we looking at just around the
universities we can craft in our ordinance which streets would allow them
by right or we can craft which streets by characteristics so we it's really up
to us the two universities are the the the primary requesters of this so we
don't have a lot of private citizens that want to ride their their golf carts
or they've not requested that from us we primarily get the request from the
universities it's a lot easier for them to maneuver around campus in a golf cart
than it is in a standard vehicle or pickup so again which the streets that
we want them on would be up to the up to the council and again we can limit it by
name or by classification or both right I see them around TW quite a bit
accessing up Bell and I'm okay with that since it's 20 miles an hour so I would
say if we do this around the universities and the characteristics
should be named streets and speed limits like to add something to that I may so I
I'm an agreement I mean I like the idea that there's a restricted streets they
they can't go on streets that are more than 35 miles an hour and that to me
would simply be to protect them in case somebody got a golf cart that I work at
Texas Women's University sometimes students are use the golf carts I mean if
you got a student in a cart that didn't generally the TWA students are pretty
good but these ordinance would help keep them safe also I would think and I would
like to add that as somebody who rides a bicycle I mean I'm allowed to use all
the streets regardless of the speed on the street and you know I only need a
headlight and a tail light and I have brakes but I I don't have to have a
driver's license so to me I mean these are the you're actually asking a little
more I mean I I can't I can't always go over 25 miles an hour on my bike so I
think all these things are reasonable so I have to say so I would add that you
brought up a point that TWA does use the golf carts and one advantage of
allowing them on city streets right now they use the sidewalks which which to me
is more of a potential conflict with pedestrians than it is with other or as
much as it is with other vehicles I mean if you're if you're talking about low
speed facilities and and the golf carts can basically keep up with background
traffic that's that's less of a conflict than somebody who's walking at three to
five miles an hour and a golf cart that's moving at 20 miles an hour on the
same pathway I yeah I would agree yeah I mean I've actually you know use the golf
cart occasionally on campus and it is troublesome to ride behind people who are
walking I don't I don't want to run them over but at the same time you're trying
to get somewhere quickly that's why you have the golf cart so I think being able
to use the golf cart isn't it is nice
one piece of safety equipment that I would suggest is that reflective orange
triangle to be put on the back of them like you often see on tractors and in
Amish country on the back of buggies right
okay are there any other comments and if not do you so the agenda recommends that
we give staff direction is that does that mean we need a vote on this one or
is that just our verbal recommendations that we've art there it's not a vote
it's just do we have a consensus for the staff have a consensus of the board to
move forward on advancing the item I think right now I mean to certainly have
expressed support a consensus would be for so if you and mr. Baker would chime
in as well also I did get a message from Sarah
Fulwood that for the online commenting that there were no online comments
before the meeting and no callers just for the for the record thank you yes I
also support I support this measure so I think it's a good move Connie do you
have a comment of support or or not
you're muted Connie lower lower left hand there you go
I did do oh okay well on the on the golf carts I agree around the campuses but
not on city streets like you know there there a lot of traffic people of speeds
and stuff like yet I'd be more you know around the campuses not on city streets
not because they move too slow and like say it'd be a hazard to the vehicle so
but around campuses I think you would work great is this and in some of the
cases campus right correct me if I'm wrong but campus includes city streets
right so this like for example at TWU or UNT if we don't include city streets
some city streets in this then that would preclude the golf carts from from
moving in pretty slow moving streets along the campus is that is that
correct yes sir about both universities have a
number of public city streets right so so would you still be opposed to that
Connie
can you hear me now okay well yeah the city there is city streets that run
through the campuses but most of those streets are 20 mile an hour not 30 most
of them are all 20 it goes through the campuses most of them most of them are
30 but they're on their outer edge so like I say that's that's the safety
reason with the vehicles is what I was talking about they don't move fast
enough and traffic so but like say most of them are 20 mile an hour in in the
in the schools so you're in favor of 20 miles per hour less is that your yes I
would around the campuses like say it'd be fine but like say 20 mile an hour is
what speed is around most both the universities okay so I'll just I'll stay
for the record I mean I trust if we move forward with this for the commission
identifies safe streets where this would be appropriate so I'm a little I'm
personally a little weary of putting too many limits on it because they may find
a street where it's 25 that's appropriate at near campus or in an
appropriate spot so I'm supportive of the measure in general so and we can put
for the record Connie has some reservations about speed limits in
certain city streets where would be a lot of does that do those comments allow
us to yes okay all right thank you everyone for the comments and I think
those will be really helpful so with that we can move on to item CTSC 20 - 0 1
8 receive a report for the discussion regarding the city of Denton's Americans
with disabilities 88 transition plan okay somehow I've frozen my screen I got
absolutely nothing okay I cannot minimize I can't see hold on you guys you
cannot see my screen correct nope I've lost my toolbar I don't know how I did
this but and my nothing works up here is does anyone else have a dude could
somebody else I could download the presentation do somebody else want you
want to pull up the presentation and then they can screw through and Brian I'm
downloading it I can you call it up making I got but I can't see it I got
you Brian okay I can do it all right technical difficulties there it is just
tell me when you want to go on this line and I'll make it up no that works we
have tech services in the room to try to help okay thank you think I'm in sharing
screen on our own somebody's share okay Daniel if you can stop sharing your
screen Brian has the presentation all right well now I know what now I don't
let me go back to here no no we have to wait for Daniel to pop back in as well
okay there is yeah sorry I just connectivity issues my video off
shortly while I'm not talking all right let's try this again
can you see it yes awesome all right so this item is just an update of the ADA
transition plan that the city conducted several months ago completed several
months ago prior to Mark's departure I don't know that we have presented any of
this information to you so I wanted to bring it back just to show you where
some of the results of the study and our next steps moving forward so we
completed this plan late in 2019 basically what we what we accomplished
is through the use of a consultant is the identification of existing sidewalks
ramps crosswalks and traffic signals that are not in compliance with the
Americans with Disabilities Act and we also got a we've got a list of those
that fall short and a cost estimate to bring them into compliance so I'm just
going to go through a couple of examples this is curb ramps at traffic signals
you can look at the numbers that you evaluated they so the curb ramps lands
in crosswalk which is a problem 684 were evaluated seven six hundred and seventy
eight are compliant pretty good compliance but when you get down to the
flare cross slope which is cross slope is always one of our biggest
considerations and concerns with with sidewalks and ramps we're only at fifty
five fifty six percent compliance so we've got some work to do at traffic
signals relative to grants a lot of these are older they predate the 88 act
but the requirements are that at some point we need to bring them into
compliance another one it signals the push button height and location again we
on some of the elements we're in really good compliance the orientation is
parallel to crossing ninety nine point one percent but when you get again to
the clear space and some of the requirements you may or may not be
familiar with but the push button needs to be in a particular location relative
to the curb ramp and the landing so some of these elements were you know
basically seventy one percent where we've got a seat so we've got some work
to do with push buttons as well they also looked at 740 miles of sidewalk
corridor and just really this is a fantastic asset management tool we now
know the condition and and some of the compliance elements of most of the
existing sidewalks in town so this table that you can't read which was your
we're not intended to necessarily but for every sidewalk segment every
corridor they prepared this analysis sheet they looked at different possible
problems the joints you know the surface the tripping hazards and they developed
a cost estimate for repairing those each of those items so as a summary we've
got set traffic signals again it's a number of different elements could be
curb ramps could be push buttons could be the pedestrian heads but we've got
several of them that are in great need like 31 are high priority out of our
hundred and twenty three total so and we've added signals since then but most
of the signals that we're constructing now are in full compliance as they're
constructed so we're we're meeting the the standards in the ADA with all new
construction so most of what we're seeing here that's not compliant is old
construction and some of it is very old construction some of the signals we have
in town are 30 34 years old so they certainly are not in compliance with the
act itself and then this is the sidewalk corridors look at as a as far as a
priority of repair or non-compliance 370 miles are in need of some kind of
adjustment and and with varying costs associated but so here's a here's a
summary of the compliance costs signalized intersections and if we just
look at let's just look at the total because even a low priority at some
point we're gonna have to address those but we've got four million almost five
million dollars in signal needs the sidewalks that are just in a corridor
so it's not necessarily associated with a signalized intersection just in
between blocks we've got 11 million dollars of need and then the curb ramps
is probably the biggest element that where we're non-compliant and again
that's primarily because a lot of them were put in quite some time ago and as
we as we reconstruct streets we we fix them but basically the consultant
identified over 18 million dollars of curb ramp needs for just to come into
compliance so a total of 34 million and these are all unfunded improvements
right now so our next steps are to develop a detailed project prioritization
so we've got the high medium low priority we need to identify projects and
put them into funding years basically put together a program for compliance
maybe looking five to ten years out and identifying those funding needs and then
we can once we know what we need the next five years in the next ten years
then we can start looking for those funding opportunities whether being
through bond elections or partnering with a an external agency like tech stop
or the North Central Texas Council of Governments so where that's where we are
we know what we've we know what we have or actually what we don't have we know
how much it's going to cost to fix it and our next steps and this was not part
of the scope of the contract with consultant is to put together an
implementation plan so that's right now staff is is working on identifying the
elements of our CIP that might satisfy some of these needs so we can pull that
out of the 34 million we don't want to double fund it and we don't want to do
it twice so as capital improvement projects are identified and funded and
go to construction if they include sidewalks or the ramps or the signal
rebuild we can take that out of this bigger list and what's left is what we
have to program over the next five ten fifteen years so with that that's the
end of my presentation I'll stop sharing and I will tell it we'll have a
discussion if you have questions I'll try and answer thank you Brian I have
two one question and one comment the question is will prioritization also
focus on higher you know higher use areas for example I think you all know
I've asked about a specific curb right here right by the square that prevents
people wheelchairs from accessing the square if they're coming on Hickory from
the Carol side and so I it would seem to me that that that's a high walking you
know high walking and wheelchair use area and so are we prioritizing based on
maybe density closeness to the core access to services like DCTA so I'm
curious about the what about the our prioritizing and my second comment is
just one that I brought up before I'm I would prefer instead of push buttons we
just have automatic walk signals everywhere and so I don't know if that's
something that can be considered but I think you know pedestrian shouldn't have
to ask permission to cross the street just like cars don't have to you know
push a button to get a green light so I think that that would be a better policy
and make her more walkable didn't everywhere that's safer for produce okay
so the first the first question is how are we going to prioritize and we have a
couple of options there is a prioritization system that was
established with the mobility plan update where we look at proximity to
schools large generators specific land use types that tend to generate
pedestrian traffic that certainly is one option we also have on our on our
website we have a more detailed prioritization methodology where we we
actually go out and collect data because another issue with specifically
pedestrian traffic and this is something that I've experienced in other cities is
if you've got a goat trail or cow path or whatever you want to call it and and
you can say you've got two and one is next to University Boulevard and one is
next to a residential collector then that high-speed high-volume roadway
introduces some risk factors that might not necessarily be grabbed by a
prioritization that looks at how many pedestrians are there and what's the
proximity to the different kind of land uses so we may want to fold in some
additional data take our mobility plan prioritization and fold in some some
adjacent street characteristic data and make a prioritization via that method so
we have some established pathways forward so we'll and we can we'll we can
talk about this in future meetings on how we want to know what are the right
criteria what the ranking if you want to use a point system so that if you're
next to a school if you're within a quarter mile of the school you get X
points if you're next to a large generator like heavy commercial a lot of
commercial a lot of retail or a park then you get X number of points and then
at the end of the day you add up all the points and that's a rank so then you can
that's one way relative to your your comment about the pedestrian detection
we are acquiring some hardware right now we're gonna put it on the on the square
not sure if you're aware but the council did decide to leave the the all-way
crossing in place it was previously no formerly known as all walk crosswalk so
in an effort to test some hardware we're gonna install one intersection with the
the passive detection and so we're gonna test it it adds some cost to the
installation but moving towards that not having to push a button approach so
there's two ways we can not push a button we can we can run the the
pedestrian concurrent with the signal so that when the signal comes green the
parallel pedestrian gets to walk the problem with that is most of our signals
are on there they're on a they're basically run free in the evenings and
off-peaks and so unless there's a vehicle to call up that associated
vehicular movement the pedestrian won't have the opportunity to get the call I
mean the walk signal unless they push a button so what we're trying to do is as
do like you said exactly the same way that a vehicle requests service it just
shows up and we have a camera or other device that detects its presence and
we're gonna try and do that same passive detection with pedestrians thank you I
appreciate that and to be clear my comment wasn't necessarily even I
appreciate I mean I think that's a compromise I would I would be in favor of
just automatic you know lights and we don't even need detection on any of
these but but I understand that we've already discussed this a lot so I just I
just wanted to kind of share that but yeah I would just to your your first
comment about prioritization I hope that the core would be prioritized right
again it's the most walkable area and it and although I've course like schools
are great addition to prioritization but when I say the core I generally mean UNT
TW DCTA and that kind of area that's the most the most walkable so I hope that
receives some because one broken sidewalk can you know we've already got
pretty decent sidewalks there but one broken one makes it inaccessible to
someone with a stroll wheelchair in particular but can make it more
difficult for strollers and things like that and so you know Hickory is about to
get redone a lot and hopefully the sidewalks and we'll get curb cuts and
spots where there's not there but anyway that's just that's just my comment
that's all I've got okay thank you any other comments from councilmember hey
with that one any oh yes I have one question on the funding if any of the
recent bonds funds would be applied to this particularly sidewalks yes I think
the the intent for the 2019 bond was to do gap infill and so you and I might
defer to Trey or maybe this is a discussion for another day for hitting
the fine points but a lot of times those capital dollars are not necessarily
allowed to be used on what we considered maintenance so replacing or fixing a
broken sidewalk a trip hazard probably would not be considered eligible for bond
funding those are typically capital dollars but when you but if you do an
entire replacement program then I think we open up that eligibility a little bit
so the answer is yes and no not on small stuff but if we did an entire
programmatic we're gonna replace the you know two miles of sidewalk along X and Y
streets and I think we have the opportunity to use the bond funding and
I'll defer to Trey if he's got any further dad I do not okay so it just as
in a closing it it really depends on how we use them some I think we can make
them eligible but we have to be careful on making sure it's a capital project
not a maintenance project hey is there is there any other comments
I'm sorry one other thing I just thought of briefly I'll just I'll bring up is
that we've recently installed a new you know sidewalk and railing that's right
next to barley and board on the street and I will say I was a little
disappointed to look at the way that we're still getting I think a variety of
intersections of seeing where we instead of just having a flat area or having
access in all directions we have these like big concrete blocks we still are
not thinking about access across in that case there's no that was designed with
no crosswalk across the street which I think is increasing to the more highway
people on the square of cars and so I just hope that as we're adding new stuff
we're thinking about the most accessible means and not putting these weird large
concrete blocks unnecessary like I guess there's just a gear people directions
but if we just have those flat intersections those seem to be a lot
safer and then if we have had crosswalks I mean I think the intention where there
was was to deter people from crossing the street even though there's a cross
street right there behind Marley and board and direct them somewhere else
which is just not walkable it's not a way to design an urban area but so I
hope we can look at that because I still see like new stuff being designed not
using walkability in the core and so I just hope that that we can make the the
more walkable it is the more
okay
if there's not any further comments are there any further comments we are not
making any recommendations on this I read I don't think we need to even
necessarily give the staff directions so we can go and move on to our next item
our next item is item D TSC 20 - 019 staff update regarding the safe routes
to school bike scooter share programs and community input on mobility plan
okay sharing my screen okay can you see that okay so two items on our staff
report the first is safe route to school we have two active safe route to school
projects both are significantly funded through our partner groups of tex dot
and the cog the first is pecan Wilson and pecan Creek and Wilson elementaries
we've got about almost three-quarters of a mile a bit more of sidewalk post and
looking for we're moving into the design now hopefully a complete design by March
and then move into construction in 2021 and and with that amount of construction
probably six to eight months and possibly more it really depends on what
we find in the design phase but we're estimating that will be done sometime in
2022 and again a total cost our total funding right now is about five hundred
and fifty thousand dollars the second project is Jennings and Alexander formerly
known as Lee Elementary significantly longer stretches a sidewalk this is the
the Stewart Road sidewalk both sides from Sun Valley to Windsor that's been a
request for a long time now again a little bit very close to the same
timeline on that finishing up the design in July it's a little bit more to design
so it's probably going to take a little bit longer and then move into
construction and then again you're talking about a mile and a half plus on
can just sidewalk construction that's going to take some time and so we're
estimating end of end of 22 beginning of 23 for completion and about nine
hundred thousand nine sixty nine seventy thousand for total dollar cost there
but you can see that both of these between the just these two projects
we're leveraging 1.2 million dollars with our three hundred thousand dollar
match so we're doing a four to one and some of this money has been sitting idle
for a while and we're very anxious to get it under construction so we don't
lose it if if we wait long enough the cod will say well you didn't really need
that money we're going to give it to somebody who's ready to move so those
are our two active projects will be keep will be bringing you updates as we get
into design and construction for both of these safe route to school project we
did not receive any funding for this latest call the city of Dallas was
awarded all of the safe route to school money understand they have a great need
but we were a little bit disappointed we thought we had some good candidates and
we scored fairly well but not well enough to get money and the other one I
want to talk about is the bike scooter share program I don't know if you've
noticed but bail has left the building they have withdrawn from the Denton
market because of the inability to include a scooter element in their
program they no longer do bike only if they don't have a combined bike scooter
program they don't participate so they have left the the city and we were
originally they originally told us they would stay until the end of the year but
they have pulled out early and so we will be working with UNT and TWU and any
other partner to identify opportunities for our new vendor and the stipulations
and the conditions of that contract so stay tuned that will be coming back to
you soon and hopefully we'll have a new bike vendor early in 2021 and then the
last item is the community this is a virtual community meetings on the
mobility plan this is the last round of public input we are on meeting for
tonight we've had three we did the downtown the northern and the western
sections tonight is the eastern section and next week is the southern section so
basically these are virtual zoom webinar type meetings where we present the the
the plan as it sits sits now the draft plan and we're receiving feedback from
the community and folding that into the final plan which will be done probably
sometime in November and expectation is to move forward with adoption at the
earliest late this year but more likely in early 2021 just because we've got an
election in November and and I think the the sentiment is that we would rather
push that a couple months and give the new council opportunity to get
comfortable before we dump something as large and as important as the mobility
plan update on them so we're looking for again the final report from our
consultant probably in November and moving forward to council adoption
probably early 2021 any questions I'll stop sharing
it's been bright one one question what is the city's official position on
scooters for some reason I had thought that we had not actually adopted
importance on that what is the position I don't know that the city has stated
one I could be wrong but I know that UNT is opposed to allowing scooters on
campus so obviously that's a large share of the market from veos or any any ride
share providers standpoint if we can't capture the the college market then
we're missing part of our market totally but the other reason I think that
they're leaving is that they no longer do bike only so we we need to find a
vendor who does a bike only like be bike or or some other vendor and this gives
us the opportunity to look at the program and reevaluate do we want to do
doctor dockless do we want to do electric assist there it it may turn out
to be a benefit for us just because we get to reevaluate what we want in a
program and if and and it gives us the opportunity to discuss do we want have
the sentiments changed and do we want to allow scooters I don't think we're there
right now and in fact a lot of cities are pulling the scooters off the
streets and off the off the sidewalks just due to some safety concerns those
safety issues continue to exist and so they've got some seated scooters they've
got stand on scooters but the issue is do they belong on a sidewalk this goes
back to the very similar to the golf cart discussion is does a scooter that
can move at 10 to 15 miles an hour belong on a sidewalk with three to five
mile an hour pedestrians and do they belong on a 30 mile an hour or 35 mile
an hour city street it's just they're somewhere in between and it's it's a
difficult decision
okay I have a question if you're done with that okay I wasn't sure your
screens a little slow so I was trying to catch up so I do have a question about
the sidewalks that you're gonna put in over by the getting school is that on
both sides of Stewart yes only on one side both sides Wow so you're gonna take
are you gonna I'm curious because on one side because I I traveled that street
one side there's houses that back up with backyards do you is that I guess
part of that still city where the fences and I think you're speaking of the west
side yes yes so the fences and this is we will identify or we will confirm
that those fences that identify the backyard limitations that they are in
fact on the right away line even with that easement in place or that Parkway
distance available there's a lot of trees and a lot of utility poles so the
west side is going to be a challenge but we think that we've walked it twice with
the consultant and they think they can they can weave a sidewalk either between
the trees or we may have to move some utility poles but they think they can
get a sidewalk on the west side as well okay I was curious because yeah because
we sometimes all all right we'll ride that and and there is a bike bike lanes
on Stewart and I often see people walking in the bike lane so it's
definitely something that's needed this all right thank you I have one more
question if I can't since nobody's speaking so when you I wasn't able to
access one of the mobility mobility I can't talk they know the North mobility
plan are you do you go over everything because if I want to join tonight does
it's just on it's just the east side today right you'll or do you kind of go
over everything we we really focus on the geographic area but we we
structured these so that if if somebody could not attend the meeting session
that they were really interested in we can go back and answer questions
relative to that I will say that the and I think we're current the the
presentations are on the website and the question and answer also on the
website so you can see you can see the questions that were answered and the
responses that were given and you may want to do that it may answer you they
make somebody may have asked a question that you're gonna ask or you can show up
to any of the meetings and ask a specific question about another part of
town I think trade I believe we tried to craft the the captions so that it was a
focus on but not limited to a specific geographic area we don't we don't and we
talk about the general planning steps that were taken but we don't look at
the entire plan at any one of these meetings that would it would just be yeah
crazy yeah I mean I did look at the North part of the 10 when I realized I
couldn't get in like it was very last minute on my end so I understand what
somebody wasn't able to let me in in time but and I did look at like all the
comments not all of them there's a lot of comments but I looked at several
comments of specific spaces that I and it seemed like a lot of people have
contributed to you know to those maps we've had good turnout very good that's
the Western was probably the lightest but it's also probably the less the
least amount of changes happening over there okay alright thank you that's all
yeah did we lose our I think we did no I'm here sorry just connection problems
I'm just yeah meeting the video is there any other comment okay without any other
comments that is our last item and so this I think we can go ahead and adjourn
this meeting thank you very much thank you for your time thank you all