1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Hello, everybody. Welcome to committee on the environment. Glad we could be here today. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:20,240 It is Tuesday, September 8. And the time is 102. We do have a quorum. So we will go ahead 3 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:25,960 and get started rather quickly. Our first item for individual consideration is consider 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:37,220 approval of the June 25, 2020 minutes. Councilmember Metzler. So moved. Okay. Second. All right. 5 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:43,520 All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. All right. We'll move right now to the next one. Item 6 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,520 B, receive a report, hold a discussion on the regional air quality update and collaboration 7 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,440 summary. Is that you, James? That is. Good afternoon, council members. James Douglas 8 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:13,980 conservation programs coordinator. Let me pull up the screen here. Okay. And can everybody 9 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:23,320 see that? Yes. I think we're good. Okay. Perfect. So like you said, we're here to give an update 10 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:28,840 on the regional collaboration efforts on the topic of air quality between the sustainability 11 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,560 office and the north central Texas council of governments. And so you'll hear me refer 12 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,240 to it as the cog, probably from here on out. And so the cog has some great efforts going 13 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,400 and the city of Dutton participates in those as one of many cities in the region. And so 14 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:52,200 we are here to give you an update on some of the things going on there. So for today's 15 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,160 presentation, we're going to discuss three of the different partnerships that are going 16 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:02,860 on with the cog right now. And the results of some of those partnerships are some information 17 00:02:02,860 --> 00:02:08,040 related to the impacts of COVID-19 on both transportation and regional air quality. And 18 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,280 so we're going to touch on that a little bit. And towards the end of the presentation, we 19 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:20,480 will give a 2020 update on the regional analysis of air quality, both in Dutton and the DFW 20 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:28,300 as a whole. So just a little bit of background. Today, you're going to hear me reference some 21 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:33,000 numbers related to ozone. What that is, is the air quality index, and that's an EPA index 22 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,160 for measuring major air pollutants that are a part of the Clean Air Act. Like I said, 23 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,480 today we're going to focus mainly on ozone. That's the main one that we see when we get 24 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:53,000 an air quality alert here in DFW, typically it's ozone. So the, I mentioned three partnerships 25 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:59,200 before that are led by the cog and the sustainability office participates in. And so just briefly, 26 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,720 the three of those, the first one is Air North Texas, which acts as the outreach and education 27 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,880 wing of the air quality and transportation division for the cog. And so basically what 28 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:15,240 the cog does there is they help us to standardize our outreach information with our neighboring 29 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:21,960 cities and other public entities. And so you may be familiar with one of those standardizations, 30 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,040 which is Arlo the Air Modillo, and he's their mascot for that. And in 2018, Denton actually 31 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:36,480 got an award for best utilization of that character throughout 2018 marketing. The second 32 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,440 that I have listed here is a new initiative that we're really excited to be a part of, 33 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,320 and that's the Air Quality Public Health Task Force. And in terms of some of the collaboration 34 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:53,620 regionally, this is probably the most horizontal of the efforts crossing many different sectors. 35 00:03:53,620 --> 00:03:59,200 And so this brings together education, atmospheric science, nonprofit, public health, and of 36 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:06,400 course the local governments. And so basically this is in the early stages, but the goal 37 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,680 is to bring these organizations together and to share data sets, which is what we're doing 38 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,360 right now. And so really we're learning from each other what everybody has to offer. And 39 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,840 from that, we're going to pose some actionable questions that at the regional level we can 40 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:27,080 use this data to improve air quality. And so, like I said, really excited for the new 41 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,520 initiative and we'll have more updates on that in the future. And then briefly, the 42 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,320 last one is the Local Government Energy Reporting Group. This was previously at the state level 43 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,440 but the COG took this over for a regional effort to increase energy reporting amongst 44 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,620 public entities. And so this is for a state effort to improve air quality by lowering 45 00:04:48,620 --> 00:04:54,080 energy consumption in the region. And so Denton has been participating in that reporting since 46 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:00,960 about 2001. And so the sustainability staff has had a pretty big role in terms of getting 47 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,960 other cities reporting. And I think between the year before and the year after the COG 48 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,360 took this over, there was about a 90% increase in regional reporting in the area. So it's 49 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:19,040 really good to see. And like I said, Denton has had a role in that. And so the COG kindly 50 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:25,000 provided some slides and this is for the effects of COVID-19 on regional transportation and 51 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,000 air quality. And so we've got a lot of good information here. And so we're going to dive 52 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,320 right into that. So we're going to start with the transportation side of things and then 53 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:40,080 we'll talk about the impacts to air quality after that. So we're going to get started 54 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:47,920 just pretty generic here. We're going to compare the freeway volumes from 2019 to 2020. And 55 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,100 this is a comparison of each individual month. And so you can see that this kind of peaks, 56 00:05:53,100 --> 00:06:00,040 the decrease peaks in April, we see about a 30% decrease in freeway volumes. And this 57 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:06,040 follows, it was the, I believe the second or third week of March when the stay at home 58 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,520 started coming about. And so we can expect to see that peak in April. To give you a little 59 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,880 bit of reference here, a 10% decrease is what we would typically see between weekday and 60 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:24,640 weekend volumes. And so, you know, we get at least that March through July, and then 61 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:31,360 we see about a 30% there in April. Another way of thinking about that data, we can think 62 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:38,440 about freeway speed. And so this is average weekday speeds weighted by traffic volume. 63 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,120 And what you can see there in yellow for February is what we would typically see on any given 64 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,040 weekday where you see a decrease in speed with rush hour traffic. If you take a look 65 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,520 at April and May there in green and light blue, we see a much flatter curve. Due to 66 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,680 those decreased volumes, we see a more consistent speed and we see, you know, less congestion 67 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:07,360 there on the freeways. And this is for the DFW region as a whole. With those, with less 68 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,280 cars on the road and increased speed, we see the following results in terms of motor vehicle 69 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:19,360 accidents. And so we see a decrease in the number of accidents due to lower car volumes 70 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,880 on the road. But with that increased speed, we do see an increase in fatalities. And so 71 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:29,660 those are, you know, inversely proportional there. And we can see that data March through 72 00:07:29,660 --> 00:07:37,640 July once again comparing those months, 2019 versus 2020. 73 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Moving to a different side of transportation. So this is public transportation here. Once 74 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,320 again, we see the highest decrease starting up in April. Unlike the previous slides, though, 75 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:56,600 you'll notice that this has not started to return to 2019 levels. And so this is something 76 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 that we're definitely going to be keeping an eye on. And they are keeping an eye on 77 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:06,480 at the regional level. And so we see a pretty consistent decrease there between April and 78 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,720 July. 79 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Another one that has a large impact on air quality is the impact of airports. And so 80 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:24,080 a similar trend here. We do see this one starting to return to the sort of 2019 trend. But once 81 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:31,720 again, peaking there in the decrease in April and, and slowly returning. And I would like 82 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:37,560 to point out that this is airport passengers. And so another good metric that we will more 83 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:41,880 than likely have data for is the number of flights and fuel consumption as well may be 84 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:48,200 better ways to track this. But this is good data to start with. 85 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,880 The flip side of that coin. So if we're driving and using transportation less, we see bicycle 86 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:59,160 and pedestrian impacts here on trail counts. And so a 50% increase starting in March, and 87 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,760 then we get into April and May, and we start to see increases in the 70% range as compared 88 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:11,840 to those months in 2019. Once again, we're seeing that slowly return to 2019 values as 89 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,560 well. I would like to point out that this is not normalized for weather impacts. So, 90 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:21,440 you know, January, February, maybe it was a little bit warmer. And people were out using 91 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:28,120 the trails, you know, during that timeframe, but still a large, a large impact. And we 92 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:37,080 can attribute that to, you know, less, less transportation by other means. 93 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:42,200 So with all of that in mind, those are the impacts to transportation. And we know, of 94 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:47,320 course, that transportation has an impact on air quality. And so this is something that 95 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,480 is probably going to be studied for five, 10 years to come. But it is a good case study 96 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:58,040 to take a look at, okay, we had in April, you know, a 30% decrease in freeway volumes. 97 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,880 What was our impact to air quality? And so before we get into some of the graphics, just 98 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:10,160 a brief summary of impacts here from the COG. And so, like I said, emissions from vehicles 99 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:19,240 was reduced. Up until August 3, this was the lowest frequency of high-level unhealthy exposure 100 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:26,080 days to ozone that we've seen. And I would like to point out that ozone levels are influenced 101 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:33,080 by meteorological conditions, and that includes high temperature, low winds, high UV, limited 102 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:40,760 rain, and limited cloud cover. The transportation emissions that impact ozone are the ozone 103 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,320 precursor pollutants, and those are nitrogen oxides and VOCs, volatile organic compounds. 104 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,840 And so those are what are going to impact ozone levels in terms of the emissions side 105 00:10:51,840 --> 00:11:00,320 of things. In terms of visibility and just bluer skies and, you know, clearer skylines 106 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:09,760 as you drive in and out of DFW, something that is currently under review by that Clean 107 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Air Task Force in public health that I was speaking to earlier is the leading to a healthier 108 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:23,600 populace. Obviously, COVID-19 causes some variability, to say the least, in terms of 109 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,440 the public health data. And so it's going to be a bit of a challenge to take that variability 110 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:36,480 out to try and analyze the impact that the air quality had on public health, but that 111 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,100 is something that's under review. Like I said, this is, you know, one of the first times 112 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:48,920 that we can get a real-world analysis in terms of a regional reduction in transportation. 113 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,760 And one of the COGS conclusions here is that state implementation plans on air quality 114 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,960 are more than likely going to be necessary in the future to reduce background. And so 115 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:04,520 the transportation, the decrease in transportation, did have an impact, but it did not account 116 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,400 for all of the variability. And so there is some variability due to background concentration 117 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,200 of air pollutants. And so in order to address those, you know, we talk a lot about air quality 118 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:22,460 being a regional issue. You know, it does go beyond that to state by state. And one 119 00:12:22,460 --> 00:12:29,800 of the things that the COG is focusing on is how can we sustain the impacts of this 120 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:36,160 reduced transportation? And one of them is limited emission vehicles, electric and fuel 121 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,880 cell and also travel demand management. And so things like telecommuting, how can we implement 122 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:49,880 these to, you know, keep those transportation numbers a little bit lower? So with that, 123 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,000 we will move into a little bit of the 2020 analysis for air quality. And so what you 124 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,920 see here is a regional map of all of the air monitors that monitor for ozone. You can see 125 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,880 there towards the top in the center of Denton County is the one located at the Denton Airport. 126 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:16,180 And so a lot of information here, but you can see the ones with ozone design values 127 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:24,640 between 71 and 85 are in orange, and then the lower ones between 56 and 70 are in yellow. 128 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,840 And we're going to be talking a little bit about design values. And so it is a little 129 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:37,440 bit of a complicated value. And it's basically the three year average of all of these monitors. 130 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:43,040 And you take the annual fourth highest daily maximum eight hour average ozone concentration, 131 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,040 and that's the design value for any given three year period. And so those are what you're 132 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:53,680 taking a look at here. 133 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,800 Another way of taking a look at this data, you can see 2020 on the far right side. So 134 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:06,520 this is, we talked about the air quality index. And so these are days in moderate and yellow, 135 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:12,400 orange and then higher risk in red. And so in 2020, we have each month as it compares 136 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:20,200 to 2017. And then you have your three year design value period there, 2018, 2019, and 137 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:26,160 2020. And so if you take a look at March and April, things were going really well with 138 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:33,840 those. We did have one red day there in May. And then I think the next slide will kind 139 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,480 of give a better comparison there. So this is just a comparison with 2019. And so once 140 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:49,040 again, you can take a look at March and April, where we have lower values there in 2020. 141 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:57,600 And then moving forward, we see comparisons in May, June, July, and August. And so I think 142 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:06,040 I mentioned August 3 earlier. So we did have some very hot weather there in the first two 143 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:15,760 weeks of August. And so you see those two red days there. That's when those took place. 144 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,560 So here we're taking a look at the cumulative ozone exceedances. And so this is any time 145 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:27,600 that that air quality index ventured into yellow territory or higher. And so if you 146 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,720 take a look at the June and July timeframe, especially, we were kind of on pace there 147 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:38,520 to have the best year that we were going to have in five years. Like I said, those days 148 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:45,360 in August did tip the scales a bit for us. And now we're kind of on an average pace here 149 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:55,800 for the five year period for 2020. So the previous slide showed the number of exceedances. 150 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,840 So the number of times that we ventured into yellow territory or higher. This is a comparison 151 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:08,520 of the design values for 2016 through 2020. And blue is the current 2020 track. Once again, 152 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:17,320 we can see there in July, we were on pace to meet the 2008 EPA standard of 75 there. 153 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,520 And once again, those exceedances in early August did tip the scales. And so we are on 154 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:35,800 pace to be about in line with 2018. And then a little bit simpler way of taking a look 155 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,920 at this here. So this is nothing to do with design values or anything like that. This 156 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:47,680 is just the average regional ozone in months in 2019 versus 2020. And once again, a lot 157 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:55,600 of variability based on meteorologic conditions. But we do see about a 30% decrease in average 158 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:04,520 in March and 9, 10% there in April. And we move sort of into a little bit more variability 159 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:12,560 there May through August. And so the presentation today is really to 160 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,640 give you a sense of the efforts that are going on at the cog. They do have a full team of 161 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,640 air quality planners there in their transportation division. And so the availability of information 162 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:30,360 over the last two years has definitely increased. And they are definitely taking a full new 163 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:36,040 view of this topic. And so they, like I said, they kindly provided these slides to us and 164 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,280 they wanted to also provide their contact information. So if you have any follow up 165 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,520 questions, you can feel free to reach out to any of them. Also, feel free to reach out 166 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,400 to the sustainability office if you have anything. And we've been working together for a few 167 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:56,080 years now and we would be happy to pass those along for you. So I will open it up to any 168 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,400 questions that you might have. If we can take the slides down so we can see 169 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:06,320 everyone's smiling faces, we will take questions. Yes, Councilmember Meltzer. 170 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Yeah, I've kind of a minor-ish question and a major one. I don't think I understand page 171 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:25,200 16, slide 16. I think I heard what you said, but maybe just the facts are peculiar because 172 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:32,800 everything's about how, you know, there was less activity, therefore basically less pollution. 173 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:45,080 But then slide 16 shows several months of higher ozone in 2020 than in 2019. So correct. 174 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,040 So that's something that is currently under review. So two main things that it could be. 175 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:56,000 One of them is variability in meteorology. So the difference in, you know, high ozone 176 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:02,040 conditions, you know, the high UV index and low winds and high temperatures. The other 177 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:09,640 thing and was kind of referenced in the COGS analysis was the need for more state-level 178 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:16,080 action and state implementation plans to address background. And so potentially less was attributed 179 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,600 to transportation than was previously thought. And so that's another possible explanation. 180 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,960 But like I said, currently under review with that. 181 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:30,520 That could be one of those little anomalies that isn't so little and that leads to like 182 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:37,600 a major different way of viewing the world, right? Even if it's with so much less activity, 183 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,640 you know, what else are the candidates for higher ozone? 184 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,640 Correct. 185 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:48,880 So we don't know. Okay. Well, that's going to be very important to find out. Well, that 186 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,000 kind of, you know, sets the stage for my bigger question, which is what's actionable about 187 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,640 this? But I think we have to get the analysis first before we can even tell. There's something 188 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,280 very actionable that's very different than what anyone thought. 189 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,240 Correct. And I think the question of actionability is really one of the things that's going to 190 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,440 be addressed in that air quality, regional air quality task force. And so when we take 191 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,760 a look at the different data sets that are available and what we can learn from those, 192 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,800 you know, we'll be posing those questions for sure. 193 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,880 Yeah, that's pretty shocking. You know, everybody stays home and it still gets worse. Weird. 194 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,000 Okay. Thank you. 195 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Did you have another question or was that? 196 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,800 No, that, that. 197 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,800 I have to extend to that. 198 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,800 That's it. 199 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,800 Okay. 200 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Until we understand that, you know. 201 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Councilmember Davis, do you have any questions? 202 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,240 No, I don't have any questions. I thank you, Paul, for asking that one though, because 203 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:53,000 that's, that's perplexing. That'll be interesting to find out what we can find out about that. 204 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,360 Yeah, that was one of my observations and questions as well. I mean, because we hear 205 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:05,040 the reason where our air quality is so bad is because of the traffic and transportation 206 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:12,400 and everything in our area. And we have unfortunate situation that has lend itself to allow us 207 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,760 to get some data. And so now we can explore that. And I am equally as interested to figure 208 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,920 out, you know, what's happening there. And one of the things that I thought was interesting 209 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,160 as well as now we can directly tie. I mean, we knew high speeds caused fatalities, but 210 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:35,520 now there's data that shows that those high speeds cause more fatalities, which is unfortunate. 211 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:43,000 But it's there in the data. The only other question I have is as far as the non-attainment 212 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,800 area, when you looked around, I mean, we're all orange. Every one of those that surround 213 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:55,920 Denton is orange. I guess just for clarification, are they supposed to be yellow or is it just 214 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:02,760 an orange monitor and we're within the data that's allowed? 215 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:10,440 So the design value for that monitor determined whether it was orange or yellow. And so the 216 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,440 ones that fell into the higher category, I believe it was, we'll check on the numbers 217 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:28,280 there. Yeah, anything, yeah, between 71 and 85 was in the orange and then between 56 and 218 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,520 70 was there in the yellow. And so that would be the design values for the individual monitors, 219 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:40,320 not the region as a whole. Okay. And so there is a percentage that we're 220 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,640 supposed to be at and I'm trying, I'm going way back and I know that we had gone over 221 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:55,040 that limit. Are we still over the limit that's allowed for our area? And are there any penalties? 222 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:02,080 I remember a couple of years back, there was discussion of a penalty or something that 223 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:09,220 was attributed to those monitors. So I believe it's the, so the design value 224 00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:15,040 for the region is the main value that we take a look at in terms of comparing it to the 225 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:23,160 EPA design value. And so the 2008 design value is what we are currently as a region trying 226 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:30,840 to achieve. And then there's the 2015 one, which is beyond that still. And so it's at 227 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,960 a regional level. And so, you know, whichever monitor is the highest in the region will 228 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:47,340 sort of drive that design value for the region. And it is not the Denton monitor at this time 229 00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:52,680 that is driving that design value. Okay. If that makes sense. 230 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:58,600 Okay. And I see Dr. Banks is here with us. Is there any chance, I know that we had talked 231 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,280 about maybe trying to get another monitor since there was just one in Dent County. Is 232 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:10,680 that still any, is that still a conversation or not a possibility at all? 233 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Another monitor in our area. If you can unmute. 234 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:33,080 There we go. Sorry about that. I haven't heard of any recent conversations. I'm looking 235 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:39,680 over at Catherine just to see if there's been some here lately. All right. She's bringing 236 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,760 a note. All right. So they're looking at one in Pilot Point right now. Okay. So they've 237 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:54,640 added one in Pilot Point since we talked last. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that. All right. 238 00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:08,920 Dr. Meltzer? Yeah. You know, I'm just really, I've really taken cause over this oddity of 239 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,040 less traffic, less flights and higher ozone. And I'm wondering, do we know, is this just 240 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:23,360 a regional phenomenon or is this nationally true, globally true? You know, traffic down 241 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,400 and ozone up. So from what I've heard from some of the 242 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,160 conversations, it's relatively consistent, at least in some of the Texas area. And I 243 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:38,520 think that they're putting more of that information together. Obviously with the cog, they have, 244 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:44,520 you know, this North Central Texas data more readily available. And as more people do these 245 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,440 analyses, and I think that there will certainly be more coming, you know, as this does act 246 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,000 as a case study. And so as we get those in, we'll be able to compare more readily. 247 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,640 Yeah. Okay. That'll be interesting to know. Thank you. I mean, maybe the planet's just 248 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:07,960 cooking and once fissures open up on the earth, you're done. I don't know. 249 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:17,880 Well on that comment, we will move on to the next item. Item C, Receive a Report, Hold 250 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,760 a Discussion, and Give Staff Direction Regarding an Update on the Recent and Upcoming Projects 251 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:32,560 in the Solid Waste and Recycling Department. Dr. Oh, there you are, Brian. Welcome. If 252 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,400 you could unmute and then you can start whenever you're ready. 253 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,440 Very good. Sorry about that. Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the committee, Brian 254 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:45,280 Berner, Solid Waste Director with the City of Denton. We can all concede that the year 255 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,760 2020 has been an interesting year and with COVID, it has pushed a lot of things back. 256 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,040 And we've been before council here on several occasions over the past six months saying 257 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,080 this thing is coming and that thing is coming. And we wanted to get before the COE today 258 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,720 as we get closer to some of these things coming to fruition, lay out some of the projects 259 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:10,320 and give you a little better idea of what is coming down the pike. So with that, let 260 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:34,200 me share the screen real quick. There we go. So project updates. So the purpose of this 261 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,360 is really to provide the Committee on the Environment an update on some outstanding 262 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,880 projects, some things that have recently been implemented, as well as some projects that 263 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,840 have been in the pipeline for a while. We want to talk a little bit about why they're 264 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,960 important and really set some expectations as we're moving down the implementation and 265 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,800 set a timeline. A couple of these projects, we're still in the contracting phase. You 266 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,720 will see them very, very shortly. But we are still under the Purchasing Non-Disclosure 267 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Agreement. So we'll be talking generalities about the project. We will not be able to 268 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,560 give the name of successful suppliers until that contracting is complete, but we'll try 269 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,920 to answer as many questions as you can. There are several projects that we have here before 270 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,800 you today. What we'd like to do is go through the entire presentation and then come back 271 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:26,320 and answer specific questions about the specific projects. With that, I do have a couple of 272 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:34,880 people here to help me today, a couple of staff members, really key to help implement 273 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,240 some of these actions that we're going to be doing today. First off, we'll be introducing 274 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Ms. Tina Eck. She is our Senior Business Analyst with the department. And following her, Ms. 275 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Alison Wing will be talking. She is our Solid Waste Applications Coordinator, and she'll 276 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040 be talking about a project that we have. So I'm going to switch places with Tina right 277 00:28:52,040 --> 00:29:05,880 now and we'll talk a little bit about our IVR system. Good afternoon. So our interactive 278 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,480 voice response system has been developed in a partnership with our customer service department, 279 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,480 and it provides our residents self-service options in making their solid waste requests 280 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,120 specifically related to our yard waste program. So we do have a separate number there that 281 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,800 you can dial in. It is live and up to date right now. You can make requests in English 282 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,440 and Spanish 24/7. And it allows you to do things like opt in and out of the yard waste 283 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:39,760 program, either craft bag or cart, and schedule a brush collection if you are not currently 284 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,560 opted into the program. If you are opted in, you can already have your brush collected 285 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,800 automatically weekly. And additionally, you can also schedule a brush bulk collection 286 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:58,280 of bagged leaves two times per year. Some of the benefits are specifically with the 287 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,400 Monday collection day, we do have customers there that can go ahead and call in over the 288 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,960 weekend. Formerly, they were having to wait essentially an additional week if they were 289 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,440 to do yard waste kind of tasks over the weekend. So now that they can go ahead and call that 290 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:19,360 in and have it scheduled for Monday collection next day, and also it enables you to be able 291 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:26,680 to have the reservation without having customer service. I'm pretty proud of that. And up 292 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:33,760 next, I'll be introducing Allison Lee, our applications coordinator. 293 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Hello. Hey, as Tina said, I'm Allison wing, the solid waste applications coordinator here 294 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:58,240 to talk to you about the smart routing system. We are nearing the end of our RFP for smart 295 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,200 for procuring smart routing software. This will replace existing software for managing 296 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:10,460 work orders, container inventory, rolling stock inventory, and will support audit tracking 297 00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:16,240 and reporting, but will but will come with added enhancements that are new to the city. 298 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,980 Each collections vehicle will be outfitted with an iPhone or iPad that will give turn 299 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:26,440 by turn directions for the day's route and work orders, and will be a communication portal 300 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:33,020 for the supervisors, dispatch and the collections technicians. 301 00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:39,340 Each vehicle will be tracked by GPS in real time. At all times, we will have the ability 302 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:45,520 to log into a portal and see where all vehicles are and easily be able to send the best vehicle 303 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,600 to an emergency situation, or quickly get to a vehicle in distress or whatever situation 304 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,440 may arise. This also means that we will be able to see what percentage of each route 305 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,840 has been completed at any point during the day, and exactly where each vehicle is on 306 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,120 their route. If someone calls customer service asking why their cart hasn't been emptied 307 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,200 yet, customer service will be able to answer that question. They will be able to tell the 308 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,400 customer that their street hasn't been serviced yet, or that their particular home wasn't 309 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,920 serviced because the cart wasn't out when the truck serviced their street. There will 310 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:31,160 be a note and a photo indicating the reason with evidence for any missed service for both 311 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:38,360 residential and commercial collections immediately clearing up confusion for the customer. This 312 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:45,400 photo evidence feature of the software will also back up any collections that require 313 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:53,760 fees, such as large piles of brush or bulky items in excess of two. We're really excited 314 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,180 about this project and excited to get it rolling and expecting that we will see much more efficient 315 00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:14,400 service for the residents of Denton with implementation of this software. And now we will go back. 316 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,040 From a timing standpoint, we anticipate that the smart routing system will be presented 317 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,280 to the PUB next Monday, the 14th, and then will come before council for final approval 318 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,280 on the 22nd. So that one is just right at the finish line. You should see that one within 319 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,040 the next week, two weeks for approval. We'd like to talk a little bit about the comprehensive 320 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:43,420 solid waste management strategy. We had re-upped that procurement, and we're in the process 321 00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:50,160 of finalizing contracts with our successful proposer at this point in time. As a reminder, 322 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,560 the comprehensive solid waste management strategy is really a forward-looking document that 323 00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,040 helps the city strategize and identify what its solid waste procurement or operations 324 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:07,080 will look like over the next 5, 10, 15 years. It allows us to set long and short-term goals, 325 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,320 look at policies and actions, really help manage the generation diversion disposal waste 326 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:18,000 in the 21st century. Now, this is not a solid waste management plan. The plan flows from 327 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,520 the strategy. We've all seen those war movies where, you know, the sergeant goes, take that 328 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,680 hill and everybody, you know, gets ready and they move towards that hill. But how did they 329 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,320 select that hill? Why did they select that hill? Is that the right hill that they should 330 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:37,500 be focusing on? So that's what the strategy is to do, is to look at everything in a large, 331 00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:45,040 from a 30,000-foot view and help us really narrow down which pieces need to be implemented 332 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,840 at the city level and how that will look. From the standpoint, you know, we're going 333 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:58,080 to be talking with, we're going to start out doing residential and commercial waste audits. 334 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,480 We are somewhat unique in the city of Denton in that we do provide commercial service. 335 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,620 So while there have been residential waste audits that have been completed throughout 336 00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:12,180 the country and throughout the region, we have not seen really anything substantial 337 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:17,720 in the commercial waste sector. So we'll be kicking the strategy off by completing commercial 338 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:22,440 waste audits. While we're doing that, we're also going to be completing listening and 339 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,800 feedback sessions so that we can focus on the people that we'll be servicing. So again, 340 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,280 sitting down with council members, boards and commission members, community members, 341 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,560 staff to really identify what's important, what needs to move forward, looking at different 342 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:41,440 rules and regulations internal to the city as we operate, as well as federal, state and 343 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,720 local regulations, defining not only what we can do with recycles, but looking at how 344 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:52,120 products are manufactured, supporting how material is managed throughout the process. 345 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,640 We don't want the tail wagging the dog. We want it to flow the process from the start 346 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,800 where materials are sourced to the end of life. And again, looking at these, at growth 347 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:10,360 from a regional, looking at regional growth and generation trends as we move forward. 348 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:16,160 Denton is growing extremely rapidly. So how do we work to get ahead of this curve as opposed 349 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,920 to trying just to play catch up all the time? And again, this project will be data driven. 350 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,440 So again, it's important that the data that we're getting from our smart routing system 351 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:33,720 as well as other implementation programs that we're looking forward to, we'll define the 352 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:39,720 feedback on that. Again, the results of this project will help us, you know, use to vision 353 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:44,980 the expectations of this program over the next 10, 15 years, answering those questions. 354 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:49,160 What should we be recycling? How should we be managing it? You know, looking at our long 355 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,920 term garbage management goals, helping define what future legislative agendas might look 356 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,840 like. And then again, as we're going through this, trying to identify, you know, third 357 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,240 party or grant funding opportunities that will help us support us. So really, I'd like 358 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:09,600 to refer to this as a solid waste 3.0, you know, solid waste 1.0 was when we went from, 359 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,960 you know, at the turn of the 19th century, from burning trash in the backyard or whatever 360 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,040 to actually being collected. And then solid waste 2.0 when we started separating it out 361 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,560 and recycling. And this is really 3.0, taking that step back, looking at what's happening 362 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,560 here in the 21st century and designing for the future as we're moving forward. As I said 363 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:35,160 earlier, we're in the process of contracting, working through the contract with the successful 364 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:41,160 proposer at this point in time. We anticipate bringing this to the PUB at the first meeting 365 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:48,160 in October and then the council meeting following that for council approval. 366 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,960 The last project I'd like to identify and talk about today is our City of Denton landfill 367 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,600 scale software system replacement. We have a system in place right now that's about 16 368 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,120 years old. It's at the end of life. There was an audit completed three years ago. And 369 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,160 as a result, there were several issues that are identified. First and foremost, there 370 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:14,960 are no institutional controls available in this software system. Due to security issues, 371 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:22,920 it allowed different people to access different parts of the program. So keeping track of 372 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:33,160 where the accounts were being managed was somewhat difficult. We have put some security 373 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:39,200 in place to help us alleviate a lot of those issues. But again, we still have issues that 374 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,760 require a lot of maintenance as we're moving forward. It's a very old piece of software. 375 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,880 And it's at its end of life. And it's no longer being supported by the provider. So 376 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:55,200 we're at a point that necessitates us replacing this software piece. What we are hoping to 377 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,840 do is within this next week actually have it hit the street. It will be open for about 378 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,800 a month, six weeks. We'll go through a review process. And hopefully by the end of the year 379 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,600 actually have a successful vendor selected, bring that forward to council and early in 380 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:19,000 FY or early in calendar year 21, actually start moving towards the implementation of 381 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:25,640 a new scale house system for the landfill. And that will help us again capture appropriate 382 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,760 data that we need to make some of these long-term decisions. With that, I'd be willing to answer 383 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,480 questions that you might have regarding the system. 384 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:45,040 Okay. Take the slides down and see who has a question first. There we go. Anyone? Lots 385 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:52,440 of information. No. Councilor Meltzer? Yeah, just to comment, you know, a lot of great 386 00:39:52,440 --> 00:40:00,080 new stuff on the systems front. And I wasn't sure I caught, I think you said next couple 387 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:09,280 of weeks, but just what is your expected timing now on the next step of the big strategy process? 388 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,160 As I stated, we're in the final stages of contracting. So that will still have to go 389 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,920 through the city attorney's office. But once we get into the system, we're anticipating 390 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,720 the first part of October, it will go to the PUB and then the next meeting that we would 391 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:28,560 set the agenda date on. So probably middle of October, the council, the full council 392 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:35,560 would see it for approval. To hire the? To hire the consultant. Correct. Okay. Thank 393 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:43,000 you. All right. Well, thank you. I have just a kind of clarification question myself. So 394 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,680 on this slide, we saw it was strategy that it wasn't the plan. And so to get from the 395 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:54,560 strategy to the plan, we're going to hold a lot of meetings and discussions. And is 396 00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:00,640 that correct? Correct. To get to the end result of the strategy, we'll have visioning sessions. 397 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,200 We'll create task force. We'll put this strategy together. And then moving from the strategy 398 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,960 to the plan, again, we'll do significant outreach and we'll create those short term 399 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,560 plans, those short term goals to move us forward into the implementation of the project. Okay. 400 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,960 And that is where recycling and food diversion and all of those things that have been mentioned 401 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,560 to us from the public will come in, those conversations. Correct. Yeah, the strategy 402 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,840 may say what? Yeah, we're going to do food diversion. Food diversion is important because 403 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,760 of X, Y, and Z. And these are the things to consider. And then as we put the plan into 404 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,880 place, you know, we may go with something curbside. Or as a result of what the strategy 405 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:46,480 is telling us, it may say, no, that's not cost effective, nor is it physically appropriate. 406 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,880 We may do some sort of centralized collection or an augmentation of an existing program. 407 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,740 So that strategy will help us define what the plan looks like. Okay. And just a couple 408 00:41:58,740 --> 00:42:04,920 of comments. Very good on the voice response system. That's really great to see positive 409 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,660 feedback. And also the smart routing. I'm really excited to see that. I can't wait 410 00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:16,560 for that to be implemented. That's going to be pretty beneficial, I think, to everyone. 411 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:24,280 On that, if a bin, recycling bin, trash bin gets eaten, will that also register on that 412 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,560 system, smart routing system? Like, whoops, we just. Yes. If a bin falls in the hopper, 413 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,920 I mean, obviously we don't want our driver crawling in and trying to recover it. Oh, 414 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,600 no, no. But again, what that would add, what we would manage that as an exception, the 415 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,640 driver would just basically punch a button on his tablet. It would automatically print 416 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,880 a work order and we could dispatch our cart delivery team out to deliver another without 417 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,240 the customer having to make a phone call or having to get back and manually tagging this 418 00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:03,040 through a manual paper process. That's fantastic. That's really great. Thank you. You're welcome. 419 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:10,000 Okay, so I think if we don't have any more questions on that item, we will move down 420 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:17,880 to D, management updates. I think we have three here. Dr. Banks, are you going to go 421 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:24,740 through those with us? Yes, just real briefly. So the first one is an update of the RISE 422 00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:30,260 coalition that stands for regional integration of sustainability efforts. Basically, this 423 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:35,720 is an outgrowth of a name y'all may be more familiar with, the North Central Texas Stewardship 424 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:43,480 Forum. That was an EPA grant and it was facilitated through the COG. And once the grant was over, 425 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:49,360 this group saw benefit in continuing to share information, kind of work as a group, serve 426 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:57,880 as a clearinghouse. And so they've created this next iteration of the group. A little 427 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:05,240 bit of information available for you, as well as the web link. And then a little brief note 428 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:11,240 in there just to acknowledge that Denton's own Catherine Barnett has been elected vice 429 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:16,640 chair of this group. And so we congratulate her for that and interested to see where this 430 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:24,600 group is going to go. The next item is just a very brief update on the sustainability 431 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:32,640 advisory committee. That is item two of your matrix. And so we wanted to give you just 432 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,640 a brief update on kind of where that's at. So the intention is to bring back, staff is 433 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,840 still doing research. We're going to come back in front of the committee on the environment 434 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,800 at the meeting in October. And right now we are targeting the October 13th meeting with 435 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:52,920 the full council to have a discussion about options and hopefully get some guidance from 436 00:44:52,920 --> 00:45:00,120 the council on how they would like to put this together. Last item is basically just 437 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:11,200 the actions matrix. And basically the only pending item that we have after the sustainable 438 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:18,440 implementation committee is SoulSmart design. And we've spoken with the EME peers at the 439 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,240 intentions to bring this back at the next meeting that we're going to have in October. 440 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:29,320 And that's all I have. I have a question about number one, my commercial 441 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,880 food diversion programs. I know that was in 2018 and we've been kind of waiting for the 442 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:42,240 conversation that's coming up. But I have a question because I'm not real sure and this 443 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,360 could be brought back to us in an update next time or a work session if anyone wants to 444 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:54,120 hear about what's allowed and what's not as far as for private businesses to do food scraps 445 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,600 for commercials or residential. I know that council had someone come speak that had a 446 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:06,160 company who did that for certain businesses. But since then I heard that it wasn't allowed. 447 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,440 And so if I may have heard mistakenly or, you know, if that's something we need to discuss 448 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:18,820 as a policy in the community, that may be something we need to do to allow private businesses 449 00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:29,440 to do that. I think Brian may have a comment on this. 450 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:37,440 And it may be in our strategy. I don't know. Councilmember Briggs, that is true. It is 451 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,120 an important element we are going to be examining in our strategy. And the name slips my mind 452 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,360 of the person that came and did the presentation. But again, they are not the only person on 453 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,800 the block doing this. There are several companies out there that, you know, will collect material 454 00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:02,440 and compost it. So there's nothing wrong with a private resident taking material to a third 455 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,760 party, you know, just like sorting out aluminum cans and taking them to a metal processor. 456 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,640 There's nothing against the law for doing that. But the city is the sole by our ordinance 457 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:19,320 is the sole provider of solid waste services in the city of Denton. So we cannot set up 458 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:25,160 a program where, you know, allowing a third party to come in and provide part of that 459 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,880 service. So as part of the strategy, we'll be looking at how that's implemented moving 460 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,360 forward and determining what sort of ordinance we may have to change or how it may affect 461 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,680 us in the way that we deliver that service. 462 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:43,480 >> Okay. Well, I would like to keep that on the matrix just as we're going through to 463 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:51,600 make sure that it stays on there as the conversation comes forward to us, if that's okay. And other 464 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:58,480 than that, does anyone have anything to add to the matrix for our concluding items? 465 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,440 We'll move to concluding items. 466 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:12,880 >> You know, I think it's sort of always the same things that I think there's a consensus 467 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:18,200 for taking action on. Like maybe I'm wrong about this, but I think this consensus, at 468 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:24,440 least on the part of our committee, taking action on collecting compost for attacking 469 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:31,080 commercial and multifamily. And it just seems like it's always planning for another conversation 470 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,760 about a conversation about a conversation. And I'm just kind of watching the years tick 471 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:46,240 by. I'm a little curious how it ever comes to like, when are we actually going to look 472 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:53,240 at options and to really do it. But maybe that's a concluding item, just an expression 473 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:57,040 of frustration. 474 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:03,400 >> Did we have a date for the strategy to come to -- I mean, I know that we saw a timeline, 475 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,800 but is there a date that we can lock that down where this will be a discussion for us? 476 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:18,800 >> Again, we're working, you know, trying to contract the contractor. And once we get 477 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,600 that underway, then, you know, as part of a council presentation, or excuse me, as part 478 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,640 of the approval by the council, we can take an opportunity there to discuss it as well 479 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:34,000 as when we start implementing the process, we'll be having specific and direct and intimate 480 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,440 conversations with each of the council members as we move forward. 481 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:45,840 >> Okay. So I assume that will come to us as a body here as well. 482 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,840 >> Correct. 483 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,760 >> Okay. So thank you, Councilmember Metzler, for your note. Councilmember Davis, do you 484 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,560 have anything you'd like to add? 485 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,560 >> No, not today. 486 00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:02,440 >> Okay. The only -- I'm curious about our conversation on carbon reduction, if that's 487 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:09,040 going to come back to us in the future. I know we were waiting on some more data there. 488 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:16,240 And also the last thing is if we want to consider changing notification status, I think in our 489 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:22,800 ordinance for spraying, it's 24 hours. If we wanted to up that to 48 or 72 hours, I 490 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:31,080 know that our city has done well beyond the 24-hour notification that's in our ordinance. 491 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,360 They've done really, really great on this one. But if we wanted to make those changes 492 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:47,400 in an ordinance, if that's something we wanted to consider in the future for the matrix. 493 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,320 Or an update on it, maybe, even. 494 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,840 >> We can definitely add that to the matrix. We can discuss it in more detail. Part of 495 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:02,520 the challenge is if you have multiple cases that are in close proximity in time, with 496 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:08,600 a single applicator and a single machine to apply, sometimes you can't do that within 497 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:17,480 a 48-hour time period. But we haven't seen a year like that since 2012. So we'd be glad 498 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,080 to bring back some information to kind of discuss the pros and cons. 499 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:27,560 >> Okay. That'd be great. So we'll just add that. Thank you. So I guess we are at our 500 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,400 conclusion of the meeting. And I appreciate everyone joining in today. And we will adjourn 501 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,460 at 1.53. Thank you, everybody. 502 00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:39,760 >> Thank you.