1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,480 Good morning. Welcome to this first virtual meeting of the Mobility Committee. We have 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:17,280 a quorum present, so let's move right into our items for individual consideration. Item 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,360 A is considered the approval of the meeting minutes of February 11th. I'll entertain a 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:32,320 little bit. It's not that entertaining, but I can't see anyone, by the way. Move approval. 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:38,720 This is Councilmember Ryan. Hey, Councilmember Ryan. Second? I'll second. Keely Briggs. All 6 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:46,440 in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. Minutes are approved. Now we have an issue in that I can't 7 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:52,360 or maybe I can adjust this so I can see everyone. Okay. Well, I can see some people. I gotta 8 00:00:52,360 --> 00:01:00,440 make sure I can see. Councilmember, do you have a gallery view that you can see? I just 9 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:08,920 moved it to that. I can see John and two staff members or you and two staff members. So I 10 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:20,560 guess I'll just flip between them periodically. Chair, are you full screen? I'm sorry, are 11 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,400 you asking me? Yes, sir. Sorry. I just switched to gallery. Sorry, trying to address you as 12 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,040 chair. You have it full screen on your screen right now, because sometimes that'll expand 13 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:39,080 the gallery that you can see. Yeah, it's full screen on my device. If you don't mind, members, 14 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:46,440 if you wouldn't just mind verbalizing request to speak, just so I don't miss you, I won't 15 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:54,640 be offended. Okay. So moving on to item B, receive a report and hold the discussion regarding 16 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:06,440 updates from the Denton County Transportation Authority. Nicole is having a connection problem. 17 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:14,160 She should be on momentarily. Okay. I just, I just messaged her. Okay. Well, we'll give 18 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:41,960 it a minute. Okay. So, I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything. I'm just, 19 00:02:41,960 --> 00:03:10,000 is Brian connected? It's him in the meeting, but currently on mute. I'm here. Are you suggesting 20 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:20,160 that we go to item E? If we could just move forward and Nicole, Nicole just connected. 21 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:31,040 I am. Hello, everyone. Morning. I apologize for my delay. I was having some email issues 22 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:39,200 last week and I think that that caused the email to go get lost in the stratosphere. 23 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:46,520 So, well, I am very glad to be back with this group and to be providing some updates. As 24 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,820 you all know, the impacts of COVID. Excuse me, Nicole. Yes. Can you turn your camera on 25 00:03:50,820 --> 00:04:04,120 please? Oh, sure. Yeah, that's a rule, isn't it? Get to be visible. Hey, there she is. 26 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:11,040 I have a little one at home. We're homeschooling. So, bear with me here as I try to complete 27 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:19,320 both roles. So, as you all know, the impacts of COVID definitely hit us hard being a transit 28 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:29,520 agency. And so, we originally cut our service by about 50%, modifying our service to a 60 29 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:35,520 headway just due to the lack of ridership and obviously all of the stay at home orders. 30 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,720 But we also increased all of our cleaning and our check-in processes. And that really 31 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:47,280 enabled us to kind of look at how we were doing things differently and kind of modifying 32 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:51,960 those processes. And we found that those processes that we were putting in place were actually 33 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:59,200 extremely successful. So, not only were we kind of doing an extra set of cleaning and 34 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,360 using new products on our vehicles, but we also had our operators check in in a different 35 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:10,120 way to maintain social distancing and also to deliver PPE at the beginning of each of 36 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:16,160 their shift. In addition, we put signage on all of our vehicles and regular email messaging 37 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,440 to passengers. And then from an administrative perspective, we have been staying on top of 38 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,800 local, regional and national alerts and mandates. And I am proud to say that DCTA is the only 39 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:33,520 transit agency in Texas without a single operator case of COVID-19. So, those precautionary 40 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,200 measures are definitely working. And I think we are learning new things every single day 41 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:44,940 and putting those new things into place to ensure the safety of not only our passengers, 42 00:05:44,940 --> 00:05:52,440 but also our staff. On August 24th, we had our most recent service change. We have had 43 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:58,700 several service changes since the onset of COVID. But most recently, on August 24th, 44 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:04,920 we brought back frequency on routes 47, 21 and 22, bringing those back to a 30-minute 45 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,600 headway. And then we also added a permanent addition of an evening on-demand zone at the 46 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Denton Transit Center. And that really is to address some of those services in Denton 47 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,840 that have truncated service hours. And so that on-demand zone can take you from the 48 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:26,640 DDTC to anywhere that we would serve with a fixed route so that passengers can get where 49 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,560 they need to go. We did permanently remove routes 5 and 8 simply because they are duplicates 50 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:39,320 of route 6 and 7. And so after a Title VI analysis, we determined that any place someone 51 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:46,720 was using 5 and 8 to get to that they could utilize 6 and 7 without any issues. And so 52 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,640 those are the main changes that we made August 24th. Our board did just recently approve 53 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,280 some increased frequency on the A train. And those services will be going into place on 54 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:03,000 September 21st. Fixed route ridership, we were down at the beginning of COVID a little 55 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:09,640 bit more than 50%. I think that that was expected just simply due to the stay-at-home orders. 56 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:15,760 But we are slowly seeing increases as the spread of COVID-19 slows down. And so we are 57 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:21,220 monitoring that. Again, we are putting as many precautionary measures into place as 58 00:07:21,220 --> 00:07:26,960 possible to make sure that passengers feel safe. So masks are required on our vehicles. 59 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,000 We have hand sanitizer dispensers on all of our vehicles. Those should all be installed 60 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,800 by the end of this week. We are maintaining social distancing. We have placed protective 61 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:44,080 barriers between our operator and the entryway to the vehicles, as well as the fare box, 62 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,120 so that our operators feel safe as well. And so we are seeing positive effects from all 63 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,480 of those precautionary measures that we put in place. And we're very hopeful. I think 64 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:01,400 from a national level and an industry-wide level, we expect the increase in ridership 65 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:08,160 to be very slow. And I think that people are still going to have some fear related to COVID 66 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:15,480 about being in an enclosed space like a vehicle with others, not knowing what their precautionary 67 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,400 measures are. And so we're just trying to take that into account and look at ridership 68 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:29,180 on a monthly basis to see how we are reporting ridership. And again, we have seen a pretty 69 00:08:29,180 --> 00:08:34,520 slow increase, but an increase nonetheless on ridership. And so right now, we're just 70 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,480 really focusing on those precautionary measures. We're focusing on bringing back the A-train 71 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:46,240 service to see how that helps. And then from that point, we'll continue to just modify 72 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:53,680 service as needed based on demand. And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions. 73 00:08:53,680 --> 00:09:03,480 Council Member Briggs. Thank you. I'm glad to be back here. I have a few questions. One 74 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:13,000 has DCTA or the DCTA Board considered during a time such as this as offering a free fare? 75 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:21,780 So free fares has been a topic of discussion, I think, amongst a lot of transit agencies. 76 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:29,760 We opted not to offer the free fare because with free fare comes potential increased ridership. 77 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Increased ridership creates a capacity issue where social distancing cannot be maintained. 78 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:43,280 And based on our ridership needs and the vehicles that we had available, we felt that our normal 79 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,720 discount programs that were helping maybe those who needed some assistance with a lower 80 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:55,200 fare were working at that time. A lot of the transit agencies that did go to a free fare 81 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,280 for a period of time have actually pulled that back because they are seeing capacity 82 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:06,960 issues becoming a concern. So that is not something that we opted. The Board did have 83 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:16,040 a discussion about it. But we opted not to go that route just due to capacity issues. 84 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:24,960 May I have a few more questions? During my Dallas Regional Mobility Committee, there was 85 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:32,400 an update on a grant that was received to study expansion and development. Is that anything 86 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:42,400 that you can speak to today to us? Do you know which grants, what the name of it was? 87 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:51,080 Not off the top of my head, but it was to expand the A train and to do transit oriented 88 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:59,880 development around? Around the KCS line? Yes. Yes. So we did receive a grant and I have 89 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:06,360 not been on that project team, but we did receive a grant to do some preliminary planning. 90 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,960 I can certainly follow up with the project manager on that and get back to you with more 91 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:16,480 details. Okay. I think it would be helpful for this committee to get an update on that. 92 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Absolutely. And the last thing I wonder is the Bonnie Bray route open yet or the stop? 93 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,600 I know that we had individuals come and speak to us for a while that it was difficult to 94 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:37,920 get to work over in that area. And so I didn't know if all of those had been reopened. Due 95 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:45,480 to the construction, everything has been reopened. Okay. All right. Thank you. Councilmember 96 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Ryan, anything? No, I'm good. All right. Nicole, I was a little curious. This is a bit of a 97 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:06,160 nitty gritty detail of when service was canceled on routes five and eight. What was the notification 98 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:12,680 procedure for people who might have shown up to, you know, looking for those? Sure. 99 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:17,840 So because we were at first, we were temporarily removing the services. We actually did a full 100 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,880 public involvement process. And so we not only contacted the businesses and apartment 101 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:30,040 complexes along those corridors, but we also put ads in the paper as well as our normal 102 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,440 digital outreach for public involvement. We did collect quite a bit of public involvement, 103 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:41,160 but based on the Title VI analysis, we reached out to individuals who had some concerns about 104 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,880 it and we helped them trip plan around the removal of those two routes. And once they 105 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:52,080 recognized that they could get where they needed to go, they were satisfied. And so 106 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,480 we were able to kind of move forward and our board approved the removal of those routes. 107 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Yeah. Portmanteau Grants, I don't know if they actually hit different stops than six 108 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:09,920 and seven. But if there are some stops that are unique, was there signage put at the stops? 109 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,520 The reason I'm asking this is just because, you know, we've had complaints brought in 110 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:21,360 the same individual. Absolutely. So typically anytime we remove a route or even if we just 111 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:27,480 move it, we will put signage at all the stops about two weeks prior to the actual removal 112 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,960 to let people know. And then we go back and we switch out that signage to let them know 113 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,240 that the route, that specific stop has been changed. And then we locate on that sign what 114 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:43,360 the closest stop it would be to them just in case they didn't, you know, see the information 115 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,960 or didn't see the postings at the bus stop. But if there's an individual that you're hearing 116 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,920 from who has some questions or concerns, they can absolutely reach out to us and we can 117 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:58,680 help them trip plan. Yeah, not currently. I'm going way back. Yeah, thanks for the update 118 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:05,440 and for our conscientious and thorough. Sounds like DCTA is being just with everybody with 119 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,200 everything, given all the challenges. Thanks for coming. Absolutely. I hope the drive is 120 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:19,040 okay. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And I'm good to turn I'm good to turn my camera off. Yeah. Yeah. 121 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Okay. And just in case you want to see a little one. All right. We're still a little early 122 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:35,400 for john. So do you want to discuss item D then receive a report hold the discussion 123 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:41,040 and receive direction regarding future mobility committee meeting schedule dates and times? 124 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:55,960 What do you all have on that? Anyone requests the request there, Paul is to receive input 125 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:02,880 from you all as committee members. We previously set the mobility committee meetings to be 126 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:10,000 on the same day as counsel. And now that we've gone to the virtual format, there can be no 127 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,600 other committee meetings on the same day as counsel. It's it's pretty overwhelming for 128 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:25,880 DTV to shuffle the setup. Council is a much more complex meeting. So the request is to 129 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:32,240 choose another date, because going forward in October, November and December, for sure, 130 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:38,760 we have a conflict with the council schedule date. I'll have to review the available time 131 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,760 slots but just looking for some input from you all on if there's a certain day of the 132 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:50,800 week or a certain time period that fits with your schedules that we can target. I'll rule 133 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,320 out Monday mornings, please. Anyone else that got some breaks? You have some good times 134 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:04,880 or bad times? Um, well, I was just going to throw out that maybe we wait until after November 135 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,920 to find a date and time, but we can work on or just suggest a time for next month, maybe 136 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:20,780 if we meet. And then and then we can set a time for regular meetings and days after that 137 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:27,400 that would be continuation in case somebody's schedule changes. Any guidance on the the 138 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,520 next one next meeting? That's what we're bringing some good days of the week or bad days of 139 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,960 the week or day parts or anything like that. Well, I know that you said Monday mornings 140 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:46,200 are out usually on one of the Mondays, I think it's the first Monday that it's a COE at one 141 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:55,480 is generally our meeting. So if probably not Mondays, no Tuesdays. So I get it just depends 142 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,320 on the day of the week. Any other time I can I can fit in I can fit in a meeting. That's 143 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,400 what Brian any problems on Wednesdays, Thursdays or Fridays? Thursdays tend to be a busy day 144 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:13,920 for me, but Wednesdays would be fun. Well, when we when we shoot for a Wednesday. Obviously, 145 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:26,240 we'll communicate on email to help. Yes, thank you. Okay, but still tap dancing got 12 minutes 146 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:34,480 till till on system. So why don't we open item E? Yeah, why don't we just go ahead and 147 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,720 go through item E then staff update regarding safe routes to schools, bike scooter share 148 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,940 programs, community input on mobility plan, future items for consideration and the street 149 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:51,820 construction report. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is Brian Young, the city traffic engineer. 150 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:58,200 Just a quick update on the three items. Safe routes to school, I'm going to give the good 151 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:04,760 the bad news first rather we were not successful with our two applications on the latest call 152 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:10,000 from cog city of Dallas took all of the safe route to school money this year. So nobody 153 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:19,240 else got any. The good news is we do have two safe route to school projects for Jennings 154 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:25,880 and Alexander and pecan Creek and Wilson that we will be our current schedule has us completing 155 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:35,400 design mid 2021 and moving to construction and construction being completed in 2023. 156 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:41,020 So we have those two, there is two projects that encompass four schools and those are 157 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:48,040 moving forward. Why don't we stop and take questions on each item. Councilmember Briggs. 158 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:57,760 So I have a question and a comment really on the safe schools. I wonder if one reason 159 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,040 we did not get it and I don't know if this has anything to do with it. But I know that 160 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:08,080 we have been trying to get that sidewalk, the one, the first one implemented for over 161 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:15,600 six years. When I was first elected to council, we were discussing that implementation. So 162 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,800 I don't know why it's taken so long. But I mean, if individuals are looking at who to 163 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,400 give grant money to and they see that we've had a project sitting on sidewalks for over 164 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,600 for six years, I mean, does that take, do they take that into account? 165 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,720 I would not be surprised if they did. So that's one of the reasons why we're trying to accelerate 166 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:42,720 the design portion so we can get into construction on all four campuses. It's you're correct. 167 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,720 And if you if you continue to let the money sit there, at some point, they're going to 168 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,840 say you don't need that money anymore. And so we're actively pursuing the completion 169 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:58,040 of all those projects. We also have another project with cog. It's not a safe route, although 170 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:05,160 it serves a school. It's the side path between the transit center and UNT on sycamore. And 171 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,120 that's moving forward moving that forward as well. So we'll have three active sidewalk 172 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:14,680 design projects, in addition to our 2018 and 2019 bundles, that will be moving through 173 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,040 design and into construction the next 12 months. 174 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,880 Just to follow up on that, is there a reason why it's still going to take a year or two 175 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:31,260 to implement those the sidewalks, so it'll be, you know, almost 10 years from the original. 176 00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:37,340 So those are estimates right now, the design is going to will probably still take at least 177 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:45,080 a four month period. But there's about three or four miles worth of sidewalk. And it just 178 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,280 depends on how fast we can get a contractor and what their construction schedule is. And 179 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:55,760 hopefully we can trim some time off of that the the side path along sycamore is going 180 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,680 to be a little bit more difficult than I know that's not a safe route. But that's because 181 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,440 it's going to take some real estate involvement. And I think we have limited real estate involvement 182 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,920 in the first two those those four campuses, the two safe route to school projects. But 183 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,120 that is one of the things that can really slow you down is if you have to go out and 184 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:20,440 acquire property. And so again, it's limited on those safe route to school. But we just 185 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,640 we don't know. So it's a matter of if we can get the limited properties that we need and 186 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,800 the construction easements that we need and the timely manner, and the contractors got 187 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,080 enough crews to throw at it, we can we can significantly reduce the construction time. 188 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,800 Okay, yeah, it's that the path on the way to Jennings is the one that's concerning to 189 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:48,040 me that I was looking into maybe discussing more. But thank you. Thank you for that. And 190 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,520 Chair, we're going to hear other updates before we ask questions. 191 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,640 Well, yeah, I thought we took each item at a time. Councilmember Ryan, did you have any 192 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,720 questions on the safe routes to schools? No. 193 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:09,800 I wonder if you can give us any insight on what criteria we didn't meet? Why? Why? Why 194 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,520 didn't? Why did Dallas get everything? Why did we get nothing? And if we don't know, 195 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:23,640 can we ask? We can and I have not. They do typically send out with the results, some 196 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,480 of their scoring, I have not seen that yet. But we'll certainly we can get that and provide 197 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:33,440 that to the committee. Great. And, you know, more more importantly, 198 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,920 for you, sir. Great. All right, why don't we go ahead and talk about that bike share? 199 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:47,280 Okay, so they ride is our current bike share provider, they have notified that they will 200 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,600 be pulling out all of their bikes by the end of the calendar year. However, I got a I've 201 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:00,800 got an email from UNT, their director of transportation that all of the bikes are gone from campus 202 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:08,200 already. So as far as the bike and scooter share, I think we're now in the in the market 203 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:15,200 for a new provider. So we will be working with Chris Phelps at UNT to identify those 204 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,320 providers, the potential providers and, and go through a selection process. But I have 205 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:26,360 not. I have not driven around town to see if all the bikes are gone from town, or if 206 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:33,920 it was just from UNT campus. Perhaps you've seen if you still see bikes laying around, 207 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,640 and literally sometimes they are laying around. If you still see bikes on the right away or 208 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,320 near businesses or apartment complexes, then they're not gone completely. They said they 209 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:52,000 would stay through the end of December. However, UNT seems to think they pulled out early. 210 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:59,240 And UNT continues to be opposed to any scooters on campus. So we still have an issue with 211 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:06,000 potential scooter program in the city, if they're not allowed to utilize the UNT campus 212 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 area. 213 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,680 I heard that Dallas just undid their scooter program. 214 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:17,800 Yes, they did. The scooters were very popular. But they continue to have safety issues. I 215 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:24,120 personally saw a lady get mowed down when we were in Austin. And the girl said she just 216 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:29,360 lost control just she was cutting across Sixth Street. She was not inebriated. It was daytime. 217 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:35,800 So but she just hit the curb and knocked an elderly lady down to the ground. So they're, 218 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:42,400 they do have outlying issues as far as safety. But they still they remain popular in many 219 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,400 cities. 220 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,600 That's one of her pricks. 221 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,360 Yeah, I would like to explore to make sure that there are other companies. I know I've 222 00:24:53,360 --> 00:25:00,720 seen individuals using the bikes, not extremely frequently, but I have seen them being used. 223 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:08,000 And I think it's a benefit to our community. The way that we had it, I thought. So is that 224 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:14,600 is that an RFQ process RFP? Or do or does UNT just kind of do the heavy lifting and 225 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:24,840 then because we have that, I think MOU or understanding, right? The other question is, 226 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:31,200 I thought TWU also had bikes. Is that through somebody different? 227 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:37,760 I'm not aware of TWU having their own program. My understanding was a very ride with citywide. 228 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,200 But you and to answer your first question, UNT does most of the heavy lifting, we work 229 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,360 with their transportation group in the selection process. So we can certainly bring that before 230 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:50,320 this group and identify once we've identified some potential candidates, or if you want 231 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:59,040 to be part of the process, we can also, whether it be an RFQ or an RFP, bring that before 232 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:06,760 you and have this committee play a part of the role in at least identifying criteria. 233 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Maybe a good time if we want to revisit docked or dockless. There are a lot of difference. 234 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:20,400 I've seen the docked bike shares, they seem to work a little bit better, just because 235 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,440 you can't leave the bike in the sidewalk or in somebody's yard. However, they're limited 236 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,000 to where you can only go to where you can only leave the bike in a dock and it may not 237 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,960 be where you want to go. So there's pros and cons. And if with the excuse me, if the city 238 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,240 wants to revisit docked or dockless, we can certainly entertain that. Or we can just bring 239 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:51,520 back a list of providers who are eligible to are interested in providing bike shares 240 00:26:51,520 --> 00:27:00,040 to the city. I imagine that conversation can be sort of simultaneous that once you have 241 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,280 your short list of providers, some may be docked and some may be dockless. Right. There's 242 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:12,720 a new animal out there that also that the e-cycles. So you've got the motor assist. 243 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,120 I don't know that we had any of that before, but those are certainly some criteria that 244 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:19,720 if we wanted to throw away that as a requirement or at least that they should be able to provide 245 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:27,200 again, so consideration. You got a comment, Councilmember Pritz? A question. Yeah, just 246 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,440 when because it is COVID and I know that there's a lot we just had a presentation about how 247 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,640 much cleaning needs to be done on buses. Is that something that these companies are taking 248 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,800 into account now? And I mean, if not, is that something we can ask about as we're going 249 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:50,560 through the process? I certainly can ask. I do not believe that Vail was cleaning the 250 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:57,480 bikes. Not that I mean, I have not seen that happening. That can certainly be part of the 251 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:05,080 criteria that they provide that service, which, again, might lend itself to a docked alternative 252 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,800 because it's a lot easier for them to maintain those bikes. If they're in a single location, 253 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,200 they just deploy one person instead of having to wrangle them up and then you'll clean them. 254 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:24,680 We can certainly fold that into the criteria. Councilmember Ryan, anything? Yeah, I would 255 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,640 just say that it's probably with the clinging issue that the current company has decided 256 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,600 to pull out, that was probably a large part of their decision in doing that, is the cost 257 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:42,720 effectiveness of that and not having students on campuses as much right now is probably 258 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:52,280 also added to the economy of scale was not there for them. Yeah, sounds right. Now, one 259 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:59,480 of our goals in doing the program was learning, right? It was to some degree a trial basis. 260 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:06,360 I mean, there's checking points contractually. As I recall, are we owed any updates on how 261 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:17,800 it went pre-COVID, since our goal was learning? Okay, well, pre-COVID and post-COVID. Let 262 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:24,120 me circle back with UNT and see if they received any reports. Kind of a closure departure report 263 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:33,600 from the very outright people. I'm not aware of any responses that we were owed, but that's 264 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:40,240 just because I don't know. I mean, I'll circle back with UNT and see if they've got anything. 265 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,920 I appreciate that. Yes. Because I think we should have a clear takeaways to the extent 266 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:54,440 possible on what worked, what didn't work so that if we do it again, hopefully we build 267 00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:02,080 on what worked. Yeah, I'd be interested in some community response as well. As far as 268 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,160 did the dockless, was that acceptable? Were they rather have a different kind of program? 269 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:14,380 Were there enough bikes? Were they easy to acquire? That would be more of a user response 270 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:19,000 than an operational response. Well, I think knowing why they pulled out, whether it was, 271 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,280 as Council Member Ryan suggested, kind of all COVID related, or was the adoption not 272 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:31,240 there? If it wasn't there, that'd be kind of important for us to know. Okay. Chair? 273 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:37,120 Yep, Council Member Briggs. Just a comment on your comment. I do believe that in the 274 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:44,240 updates or in the presentations, they did say that data would be shared with us and 275 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,680 that was one of the reasons we were interested in continuing on because of the data that 276 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,440 would be shared. And I'm trying to think back, last time Mark had a presentation, there was 277 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,160 some pretty good data. And if we could just get an update on that, that would be great. 278 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,680 And I thought that I read they pulled out because we weren't going to allow scooters, 279 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,760 which COVID may have had something to do with it, but I thought it was also scooter based. 280 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:16,480 I could be wrong in what I read. That was in the materials provided to us. But, you 281 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:24,360 know, let's see what else we have to say too. Is this tenable or not? Right. Bear Ride did 282 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:31,520 say that they were no longer going to support bike only programs. So I understand that. 283 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,240 That's the reason they're pulling out by the end of the year. My question is, did they 284 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:43,080 actually pull out in September or August and does that constitute a failure to fulfill 285 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,200 the contract or the agreement that we had in place? Right now, we don't have anything 286 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:54,080 at all. It appears on campus and possibly citywide. So, but we can certainly, back to 287 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,640 the point of the data, I know we were getting usage and ridership data. So also, even if 288 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,520 it's exactly as stated, that they pulled out because we wouldn't do scooter, that implies 289 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,920 that bike alone isn't tenable. So it'd be good for us to understand why bike alone is 290 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,880 tenable. Is it ridership or is it the way that they operate it required, you know, too 291 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:26,240 much cost? So, you know, we have a golden opportunity to become smarter. Exactly. Very 292 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:40,240 good. Okay. Wanna keep going to the next item? Yes. So the last item is the community input 293 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:49,280 on mobility plan. And we have outlined a series of five over the next several weeks. It starts 294 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:57,080 tomorrow at six p.m. We'll be using the same Zoom platform that we used for our Lakeview 295 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,880 traffic calming meeting. So it's just like this one. We'll have a virtual host and staff 296 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:11,080 support and then we'll go through our presentation. Again, lessons learned. We did in our Lakeview 297 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:17,000 traffic calming, we learned that you don't ask for a show of hands if they have a question 298 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,480 and the Q&A becomes very difficult to bounce back and forth. So if you ever run one of 299 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,960 those, we recommend using the written question and answer format only so that, one, it helps 300 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,040 document all of the requests and inquiries and you can capture that either using screenshots 301 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:41,880 or I forget how Stephanie saved those. I think she was using screenshots. And then we have 302 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,320 then you have a record of every question that was asked and answered. So those will be the 303 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,680 9th, 10th, 14th, 17th, and 24th of this month. Again, following the same format we did with 304 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,120 council focusing on a geographic area starting with downtown and then moving through north, 305 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,000 south, east, and west the other four. We're ending with I believe the last one on the 306 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,400 24th is the southern section. So we'll be starting with downtown tomorrow. Very similar 307 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:15,600 format explaining what we've done as far as the mobility plan, the process, and the draft 308 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:23,240 plan and council input from those previous meetings and then requesting community input 309 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:33,720 following that presentation. Great. Comments, questions? Okay. Now, are you going to tee 310 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:40,060 up future items for consideration or this is a placeholder to ask if we have some? Good 311 00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:44,560 question. I don't have a copy of that, Becky. I know there was one circulated, but I'm not 312 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:52,320 sure if it was for this committee. Do you have a? I have the street closure report, 313 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:59,320 but I do not have the future items for consideration. Right. Exhibit two. I got it. Okay. So that's 314 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:15,800 the grid. I don't know if you have, I guess you would need to see it to make any comments. 315 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:24,680 Does everyone have a copy of that? We do. Okay, great. I just downloaded it off the 316 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:38,880 internet, so I do as well. Any questions? Share that to the screen. I can try. Brian, 317 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,800 if you share it and we just use it as an overview, that's fine, but then you'll have to take 318 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,360 your screen down when we talk through it. Correct. So if we want to just, and I've done 319 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:58,480 this, can you see it? Okay. So we've got, it looks like 14 items. You've seen it. This 320 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,520 is for the benefit of those who don't have a copy in front of them, but a lot of the 321 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:10,900 items are carryovers from pre-COVID. So if they're still pertinent, we'll allow the committee 322 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,080 to decide whether or not we want to move those forward. And if we want to add any additional 323 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:22,920 items, now is the time. So I'm going to stop sharing. Why don't we take them in order? 324 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Council Member Briggs, the first three items are yours. Do you have any changes or anything 325 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:41,640 you want to withdraw or adjust? Well, the one way versus two way, I feel like that came 326 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:50,080 to council and I'm not sure it was difficult then to understand what was going on. And 327 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,240 I don't know if it wants to come back here, but I feel like during the mobility plan, 328 00:36:54,240 --> 00:37:01,600 it didn't seem like that conversation was ready to end, but overall, so we can just 329 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:08,040 keep that on there as just a reminder, I guess, unless any other council members here have 330 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:16,880 an idea on that. The road diet on Carroll, that actually was mentioned during the one 331 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:23,680 way, two way conversation. I'd like to keep that on as long as the city is looking at 332 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:30,840 it with the mobility plan. And Alice sidewalk, an update on that. I know there were some 333 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,900 issues, a few issues there with the property owner. I don't know if those have been corrected 334 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:45,000 or not, but I know that has been an ongoing issue for accessibility for a long time. So 335 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,240 a quick update there, we actually have resolved the issues with the property owner and we 336 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:58,600 have text on approval. So we can move forward with a permit application and some minor sidewalk 337 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:07,200 construction to at least provide a viable connection into the parking lot. 338 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:13,700 That's fantastic. Thank you. So do you want us to hold our new request till the end after 339 00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:20,080 the old requests are gone through? Yeah, let's do that. Okay. So I think you can take item 340 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:26,400 four off. I don't even know what action I would have been looking for on item six. That's 341 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:35,920 a comment that I made while discussing the issue of the roller coaster ride of West Hickory 342 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:46,480 west of Bradley to Bonnie break. And I understood that there were core samples that were going 343 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,320 to be taken or some kind of investigation. And I just never heard anything about it. 344 00:38:52,320 --> 00:39:02,640 The road remains something that raises questions about our competence. That's why the constituent 345 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,840 comments to me like, are we just using bad standards? We need to understand why it is 346 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:15,680 the way it is as well as determining whether we can fix it. But the understanding of what 347 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,960 enabled us to build a road that so quickly turned into a roller coaster ride, I think 348 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:28,240 is an important question. So it's really about roller coaster ride, West Hickory suit. I'm 349 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:35,800 sorry. You said West Oak, Bonnie, Bradley to Bonnie brain. So with that clarification, 350 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:49,360 any comments, any next steps? Councilmember Meltzer, we can absolutely look into the ride 351 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:55,720 with quality and standards that were used in that roadway from Bradley to Bonnie Bray 352 00:39:55,720 --> 00:40:05,320 along Oak and report back at the next meeting. I can tell you the result of that. It's a 353 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,400 roller coaster ride. The question is underlying cause. How do we allow it to happen? Sure. 354 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,000 We'll look into the standards that were used to construct that roadway in comparison to 355 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,840 our city standards and details and see if there's anything we can find out that might 356 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:27,420 be the cause of the roadway quality you're discussing. And if it turns out that it's 357 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:31,640 exactly the same standards we use everywhere, then I would call those into question. There's 358 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:39,360 some other factor then. So let's wait and see. But if we just go, nope, it was all good. 359 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,320 It's not all good. Sure. I completely understand. Let us look into that and we'll get back with 360 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:53,920 you. Thank you. Councilmember Briggs, anything on seven? I believe that can be taken off 361 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:04,000 because of the all walk that we just recently discussed. Councilmember Ryan, anything on 362 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,400 11? No, still looking forward to it. I know probably they started working on this pre-COVID 363 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,760 and I'm guessing that it just kind of stalled out for the time being, but I'm still looking 364 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,160 forward to this. Basically, what I was asking for was reports on our major projects like 365 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:25,300 we get on textile projects, where it gets a little more in depth as to what the completion 366 00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:32,800 dates are and more of a map included. We have phased projects that are coming up, like Bonnie 367 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,920 Bray, where do we stand on the last part of May Hill, getting the bridge in, those types 368 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,840 of things that require a little more in depth reporting. And it's going to start this date, 369 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:52,080 it's going to end this date. I'll add my name to that item. 12 can be removed. That's been 370 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:59,760 addressed. Councilmember Briggs, anything on 13 and 14? Well, the cycling event, I guess, 371 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:08,600 can be taken off and I would like to leave the downtown retractable and removable bollards 372 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:17,800 on there until we can decide if that's feasible or not for when we have the festivals and 373 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:26,520 when we close off the square for events. I think that would be helpful to have. So just 374 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:33,200 to leave that on there. I guess as far as scheduling cycling events, that kind of goes 375 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:40,720 in line with my request or question about the update on our bike and pedestrian coordinator 376 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:50,220 as we're going through the sidewalk questions and things like that. So just a small update 377 00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:55,040 on that. And also the light at the loop in Sherman, it was my understanding that that 378 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:01,080 would be coming in soon, like at the end of this year. So how close are we on target for 379 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:10,720 that as development comes in? So those are those are two things. Yeah, additional items. 380 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:18,800 And customer Ryan, do you have additional items, future items for consideration? No, 381 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:28,280 not at this time. You're kind of freezing a little. You're still there. Okay, you're 382 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:35,280 right. I have one that I would just like an update on at some point in the future. I had 383 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:45,200 an exchange with with the city manager and he looked in Ethan Cox, just I made a suggestion 384 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,840 that there be some kind of a lookup tool could be on the city website where you put in a 385 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,920 street name and you get the status either it's under construction. This is happening. 386 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:03,280 That's happening. It's on a future bond program. It's set for, you know, some point in the 387 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:13,140 future or no, no work plan. Because I don't know about y'all, but I get that's the most 388 00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:17,280 constant type of question that I get from constituents. It's kind of difficult to answer 389 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,200 because you got to either go through a bunch of well-prepared reports, but you know this, 390 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,960 the item may or may not be on there. You don't know if it's kind of contemplated. It's in 391 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,680 a bond program, but not in this pre-construct report. There's a lot to go through to answer 392 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:38,520 that question, but if it's all in one place and Todd liked the idea and looked Ethan in 393 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:45,000 who said they're working on something that would have essentially result in exactly that. 394 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:53,360 So that's the extent of it like to know how real is that? When can we expect it? You know, 395 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:59,840 you have a way to put that in like five, four or five words, put a little line. 396 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,600 Sure. Thank you for the question. Absolutely. We're looking into that. There's a mapping 397 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,920 program that we're looking at to incorporate all of the current capital projects along 398 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,560 with all of the development projects, whether it be a bond program or something that's even 399 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,240 being done by internal construction crews. It's through an IT Nexus map program. And 400 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:26,360 so that is something that's supposed to be rolled out and we're working through throughout 401 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,840 the month. So we're hoping that we'll, we'll have that fairly soon. That was already kind 402 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:38,280 of in the works when you asked the question. And so lucky job. So definitely we're working 403 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,480 through that. And so we can bring you an update. Hopefully by the time we meet again, we'll 404 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,040 have some kind of platform that's moving forward. But it's definitely something that we hear 405 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,600 quite a lot as we would like to make sure that logistically we're coordinating all of 406 00:45:52,600 --> 00:46:00,800 the projects amongst the city. So great idea. Well, of course, it's already working. You 407 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,560 know, different people learn differently, right? When you take like math classes, they 408 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,000 kind of show some people information in a table, some in a graph, some in text, you 409 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:17,480 know, if you know where all the streets are and you think that way, map's good. If it's 410 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:25,360 even just alphabetical list by street of the same data, for me, that would be quicker. 411 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,600 And I don't mean instead, I mean, it seems like if you have the same data, you might 412 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:37,200 be able to access a different ways. Okay. Anything else on future items? We're ready 413 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:45,440 for on system. I would like to follow up real quick if I could on the question number 15 414 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,920 that Councilmember Briggs mentioned. Please. I just wanted to let you know, we are currently 415 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:59,720 working on a transportation ADA planner position. And the city has worked on a new updated job 416 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:06,000 description that also coordinates with our parks department. And we'll be moving forward 417 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,520 with that through our human resources department and then possibly getting outside help to 418 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,760 advertise that position as it's very unique as to exactly what we're looking for. So we 419 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,360 can bring more information back, but please know it is on our radar. I love hearing that 420 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,600 ADA is part of the description, which I presume means some background or expertise in that. 421 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,840 I know that's been a kind of a sore point from the committee that they want someone 422 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:40,600 to actually, you know, has a background in that. So that's great. Absolutely. Okay. Please. 423 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:50,280 Okay. So yeah, no, that's really great to hear. But would they also have background in like 424 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:56,480 bike lanes and cycling and so just well rounded that that's still part of the description 425 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,120 to work on? Yes, ma'am. That's all kind of an inclusive trying to get all the different 426 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,240 areas of what we're looking for. ADA, bike lane, transportation type planner, where we're 427 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:17,560 looking at how people get around from a pedestrian aspect or a bicycle aspect. Okay. Thank you. 428 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:24,000 No problem. Okay. Call item C and see what happens. Receive a report and hold a discussion 429 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:31,440 regarding Texas Department of Transportation on system projects in the Denton area. So 430 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,840 is this where I start talking? It is. Okay. I'm going to try to share. I'm going to try 431 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:56,360 to share my screen and do the report. Okay, hopefully, I'll see that. Okay. Let me guys 432 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:04,200 size it up a little bit better. So our first report sheet shows the project summaries and 433 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:15,720 what we've we've revamped it a little bit to show basically what that's my apologies. 434 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:22,960 I'm driving while I'm doing all this to show the the projects the let dates and then the 435 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:29,560 construction dollars and then if there's any additional information related to the funding 436 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:35,400 and it'll be in individual reports on the individual report sheets. But this just covers 437 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:45,480 the construction of the projects. So our 2181 North South project is the the first project 438 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,840 I like to go over. You've got a a monthly status report from Stacey Clack at TXDOT. 439 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:59,380 And again, they are working through the final stages of the utilities with the city and 440 00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:08,000 are starting to move into the general work on the on pavement preparation and the asphalt 441 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,040 detours and stuff like that. So we're we're getting close to the end of the beginning 442 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:18,800 and we're fixing to start the roadway improvements on that project. And I'll continue unless 443 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:25,000 I hear somebody asked me to ask me a question. But we're on track to still meet the November 444 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:34,880 2021 second completion date that we've have on this project. Then on Fort Worth Drive, 445 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:42,240 I'll move on to the construction report from Barry Smithy. And I'd like to say that this 446 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:47,480 is a project that the city worked with TXDOT to get back on track by allowing them a period 447 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:54,280 of time that they worked at night. And that that was able to get the project back to being 448 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,480 completed on February 2021. So just after the first of the year, this project should 449 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:05,800 be completely open to traffic and we should probably sometime a little after Christmas 450 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:13,360 being able to drive on it is what we call substantially complete. So yeah, that that 451 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,000 work that the city allowed the contractor to do at night for that couple of weeks really 452 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,040 helped us get back on track on our schedule. So I just wanted to give a shout out to the 453 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:32,520 city on that. Next project that we're going to cover is the 35 Mayhill. We changed the 454 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:39,040 exhibit to show that the project also includes the frontage road from Mayhill North to Luke 455 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:45,320 288. And we're we're in the utility coordination process with all of these utility providers 456 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:54,200 you see listed there. And we're still on track for a April 22 ready to let and then the let 457 00:51:54,200 --> 00:52:01,400 currently is scheduled for June. But if we get the utilities completed in time, then 458 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:08,080 we can move up the let date because it is fully funded. So if you'll note that funding 459 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:14,920 on those reports shows 46 million in category two, but a $62 million estimated construction 460 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,720 cost because of the addition of that frontage road. And in the current 10 year UTP that 461 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:27,960 is being approved, the category two will cover that cost overrun or that difference in price. 462 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,640 So by September into September, first part of October, we'll be able to adjust that number 463 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:44,900 to be equal to what the estimated construction cost is. This is the Dallas drive inner improvement 464 00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:49,960 that the purple at the bottom where it kind of shoots off towards the corner. That's Dallas 465 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:58,000 Drive. The intention on this project is to make the frontage road in this area 35 continuous. 466 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:04,440 Right now you exit Dallas Drive and you have to make a left turn across traffic and then 467 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:12,360 come back onto the frontage road. We're pulling out a portion of the ultimate and we're going 468 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:21,280 to be working with tech slot to have a design done that allows the frontage road to be continuous 469 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:29,600 and access the Dallas drive to be more intuitive. And it's got $50 million worth of category 470 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:36,480 two funds on it. And we're not sure that that's going to actually be the actual cost, but 471 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,280 that's what we have anticipated. And so that's what we're allocating. And by the end of the 472 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,600 year, we should have a consultant on board to begin the design work on this project. 473 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,280 And remember, this was already environmental declared back in 2012. So all we're going 474 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,240 to be doing is the design and checking out what right of way is needed to be acquired 475 00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:08,720 there. Okay. Then your big project, the 35E, 35, 35W merge. We are looking at having the 476 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:14,740 right of way completed at the end of this year. And they are still saying that they 477 00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:19,280 believe that with the number of parcels and eminent domain, which is a set schedule, that 478 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:28,380 they will meet that December timeframe. Again, the dollar amount is 319 is what we have currently 479 00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:35,560 funded, but it's 335 million now. And again, during that 10 year UTP modification that 480 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:41,320 should happen by the end of September, first part of October, it'll be adjusted to cover 481 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:49,600 the difference in that. We'll report that change in the funding once we have it approved. 482 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:55,760 And this is a project that's critical for Bonnie Bray, because from 380 all the way 483 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:02,520 up to 77, and then we've got the Bonnie Bray South. But once 35 goes under construction 484 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:08,160 in this segment, Bonnie Bray is going to be an alternate route. And so you'll see that 485 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:14,200 we're working on getting Bonnie Bray funded, designed, and constructed hopefully before 486 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:29,400 this January 23 let date. Okay. The northern segments, again, they're fully funded at 546 487 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,760 million. We'll cover the difference in the 10 year plan. And this takes it basically 488 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:43,120 from 77 all the way out to the Grayson Ditton County line. And it's got a little bit sooner 489 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,520 date because the utilities are a little less complicated in this area. So it's got a December 490 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:55,160 22 let date, which is about a year or so ahead of the other project. 491 00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:05,440 All right, your 35W main lanes. The only thing really to point out here is that we continue 492 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,480 to move on the schematic for this project in its ultimate. And the reason we're doing 493 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:17,160 that is because of the next project, which is the frontage roads. HNTB has been picked 494 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:23,200 up to be the designer of the frontage roads in this corridor. So they're going to be designing 495 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:34,160 the frontage roads from 114 all the way to the merge. And we are working with staff to 496 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:39,960 identify areas that are critical to the city where they want to start with frontage roads 497 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,360 first. So in other words, they don't have to go from north to south or south to north 498 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:52,160 or build it all at one time. They can do segments that promote development as we know where 499 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,880 that development goes. So we'll be working with your city staff to identify those areas 500 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:04,480 and to focus on those areas. And again, just recently in June, the project was environmentally 501 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:11,520 cleared. So we are now able to begin the right away parcel acquisition. They're doing the 502 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:24,520 mapping now and we currently have 113 parcels identified to acquire. Then your US 380 project 503 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:34,040 from 288 out to 377, that project let just recently and y'all are taking action. I think 504 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:43,160 y'all approved the the AFA and the and the agreement with text that on on September 1st, 505 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:49,480 it looks like yeah, you did. And so the county's paying it's a $95,000 commitment that the 506 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:56,440 city has towards this 10 foot trail. But the county has agreed to pick up 55,000 of the 507 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:06,200 95. So net net, you certainly only be out to $40,000 for that, for that improvement. 508 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:13,280 And I think that's on Commissioner's Court agenda next week, is my understanding. And 509 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:24,120 again, this project is was awarded to regal construction. And they've got we're waiting 510 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:31,840 up the work authorization contingent upon when the city turns in their $95,000. That's 511 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:40,160 why we wanted to go ahead and do it quickly so that we could get the project led and be 512 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:49,200 awarded. Then your US 380 East project. This is the one east of 377 out to the county line. 513 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:58,080 We're in utility relocation, we expect the right of acquisition was completed in August. 514 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,880 And so we are dealing with utilities and this is a significant corridor for utility. So 515 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:08,380 we're really pressing all these providers to make sure you get ready. Our let date is 516 00:59:08,380 --> 00:59:14,000 May 21, which is next year right around the corner. So we're, we're pushing hard with 517 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:20,240 these utility providers to make sure that we could meet that date. 518 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:30,800 Lutrede West project. We are awaiting environmental clearance. We've done all of the leg work 519 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,880 we needed to do for the public involvement. And we should know by the end of this month, 520 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:43,000 the the environmental clearance on this project. And this project is being included in what 521 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:49,440 the North Central Texas area is calling the integrated corridor. And we'll go over that 522 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:56,840 a little bit. But essentially, Luke 288 West, adding frontage roads to Luke 288 on the north 523 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:06,960 side out to 428. And then 428 out to the outer loop is being included in the integrated corridor. 524 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,960 And we'll, we'll be getting that information to your staff fairly quickly on what that 525 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:18,280 looks like. So there's a good chance that we'll get the money for the frontage roads 526 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:24,480 at least. Because now it's not just city and the county interested in this loop. It's now 527 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:34,320 the region and the and text that district. So then your FM 1515 project, this project 528 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,640 was environmentally cleared in August. And now we're doing the right away mapping. And 529 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:45,360 we'll be beginning the right away acquisition soon thereafter in our 30. There are currently 530 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:51,520 20 parcels on this project to be acquired. And that's pretty much the only difference 531 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,080 since we last met is it's been environmentally cleared. And now we're moving into design 532 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:05,520 and right away acquisition, hilly relocations. And then FM 1173 to the north, we continue 533 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:11,760 to work on the environmental efforts, we had a meeting with crumb. And they had some concerns 534 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:17,600 about how it ties into their old town area. And so we're looking at the term and I the 535 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:23,280 westerly terminal on this project to see what we can do to tweak some of those things, but 536 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,240 we continue to move forward on an environmental clearance and we expect to get that first 537 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:36,400 quarter of next year. And then 428, that's that let me see what's on the next one. So 538 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:42,040 on 428, this is that part of that integrated corridor that I think by our by our next meeting, 539 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,200 I'll be able to have an exhibit for you to look at. But essentially loop 288 on the West 540 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:54,800 will tie in to 35 here, where you see the loop 28 across the northern part of the city 541 01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:01,520 come across loop by the infringe roads and go out for 28 as a freeway. And then somewhere 542 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:08,300 between the outer loop, which is that northern purple line, and loop 28, they're proposing 543 01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:15,160 a another east west corridor that would cross over the green belt area and hit the toll 544 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:21,560 road in Collin County. So as soon as we can get that map, we'll get that to you before 545 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:27,680 28 will be absorbed into that concept. So we'll be showing that integrated corridor 546 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:35,640 to you as opposed to this is a standalone project. And then body break phase seven, 547 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:41,760 your staff has been working with the cog and the MPO to get funding for all these phases 548 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:49,360 of body break. And this is a phase that Michael Morris and the RTC continue with our last 549 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:58,560 meeting to communicate their support for funding this project through funding. So we're reporting 550 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:05,860 that to you. Because it's the last tie in on this is the phase six project. So this 551 01:03:05,860 --> 01:03:12,560 is what we're working with Michael on to get the funding to get it fully funded. So we 552 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:19,440 get all Bonnie Bray done in time for the 35 projects. I jumped one. I don't know my Roman 553 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,200 numerals that well, I guess. So this is the phase seven that I was talking about, where 554 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:32,080 Michael has said that he continues to state the cog and textile fund that segment from 555 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:41,200 that last segment up to 2877 to 288. And that I think is it today. And here's our glossary 556 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:49,920 of terms. And I'm open for any questions if you have any. Okay, if you can pull the screen 557 01:03:49,920 --> 01:04:03,440 share down. See if I can spot our council members. Councilmember Briggs. Thank you chair. 558 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,600 I have a few questions. The first one, I just want to make a comment and see if you have 559 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:14,960 any updates or answers. Since we met last we've had several people email us about the 560 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:22,000 380 exit off of 35. And I know that that was included in one of these updates, but it wasn't 561 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,840 mentioned how that affects the process. And I think you mentioned before there were some 562 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:35,560 temporary things that were going to be done. And we also have received suggestions from 563 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,840 individuals on things that may could be done there. Could you address that intersection 564 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:46,640 a little bit? Yes, ma'am. So that's that's going to be improved on the it's where it 565 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:58,000 shows up on the report is the 3535 35 W merge. And that will be ultimately fixed. But on 566 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,440 that project, but in the interim, what the district has we've gotten a lot of the district's 567 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,600 got a lot of complaints, cities got a lot of complaints, the county's got a lot of complaints. 568 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:13,360 And so what we're trying to do is take what we're proposing in the ultimate, and then 569 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:19,680 do an interim breakout job to try to fix that in the short term. And so I would say probably 570 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:26,000 in the next 60 days, we should have a better idea on what we think we're going to do there. 571 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,600 And it's our intent to try to do that as a breakout job. Some of these other ones you've 572 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:40,200 seen us do. Okay, thank you. And if you need us to send you the suggestions that we received, 573 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:47,680 we'll be happy, happy to do that as well. On Sherman on 428, I don't know you may have 574 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:54,280 been aware, with the expansion of the development, there were some painting issues and the shoulder 575 01:05:54,280 --> 01:06:04,800 went away. Or is that something that you're familiar with? And do we have a timing on 576 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:10,800 on how that will be fixed where it's not safe anymore for individuals riding bicycles through 577 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:17,720 that section? Are you saying that some of the striping is gone? In that second? Yes, 578 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:24,200 the striping was allowed to be expanded to add a middle lane, which reduced the shoulder. 579 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:30,240 There's no, hey, there's our city engineer who may want to weigh in on that. I'm just 580 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:35,920 wondering if there is information on that because it wasn't on the update. Yeah, I'm 581 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:41,440 not familiar with that. But hopefully some of the city can answer that. And then if not, 582 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:47,240 we can track it down and get it looked at fairly quickly. I can. This is Brian on traffic 583 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:52,880 engineer I can answer a little bit. We are currently working with the developer to amend 584 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,840 their permit. We've talked with Tina and she said if they will just amend the permit, they'll 585 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:04,920 prove it to add a couple of feet of pavement to those existing shoulders. I think they're 586 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:11,880 probably three feet or less is what was left after that widening was done. So we are currently 587 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:18,440 working with I believe it is Stark Farms is that development. And so we are working towards 588 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:28,920 a solution with developer and textile at this time. Okay, um, I didn't know if Mr. Pulsar 589 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:35,820 wanted to come and I have another question not about that. Um, on the loop loop west, 590 01:07:35,820 --> 01:07:42,440 the date is still 2026. Is that still the date you think or is that going to be moved 591 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:48,520 up a little bit? So the 2026 date is there because it's not funded and that puts it outside 592 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:56,880 the four year window. So that's just there for a placeholder. But the when we get the 593 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:05,040 integrated corridor study back, part of what we'll do then is it'll be the city, the county, 594 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:10,560 the cities in the corridor between 428 and the toll road and the district. And we're 595 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:17,560 going to be talking about timing and funding. And once we get that conversation had, we'll 596 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:25,400 have a better idea on on what type of money will loop to it yet. So that 2026 is just 597 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:31,120 because they put it outside the four year, uh, step window, but they want to keep it 598 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:36,360 on the books. And so they just put it in an out year. But yes, we'll update that as, as 599 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:44,400 we can. But remember, this also is the corridor where if you pull up your GIS mapping, you'll 600 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:52,960 see that there are a ton of gas wells, transmission lines, distribution lines. And so the part 601 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:58,760 of the timeframe that they're allowing is, is that they've had a couple of projects in 602 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:04,360 other places in the district that took a lot longer to do the utilities on that were similar 603 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,880 in nature to what Luke 288 is. So they're just hedging their bet on how long it's going 604 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:15,600 to take to do the utilities. But now that we've got, um, like I say, an emphasis on 605 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,400 this project, it's not just the city and the county. I think that there'll be more resources 606 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,520 brought to bear on this project and we'll be able to expedite the schedule. 607 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,640 Thank you. And chair, last, last comment, or I guess question, um, Mr. Polster, you 608 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:38,020 mentioned something about a road going through the greenbelt. Um, what I, that's makes me 609 01:09:38,020 --> 01:09:44,880 really uncomfortable. I'm not sure what, um, what road is that you're, you're talking about. 610 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:50,760 So when I get to the outer loop, I mean, the integrated corridor concept and, and text 611 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,560 that's still working with cog on some traffic modeling. And that's the reason why we don't 612 01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:03,520 have it to distribute, but essentially it's a East West corridor South of the outer loop, 613 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:13,040 which is four 28, the Northern four 28 and North of three 80. And the core of engineers 614 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:22,200 has communicated that they won't allow anything to cross the cream greenbelt other than a 615 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:28,440 regionally significant facility. And so this integrated corridor is a road that goes from 616 01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:38,080 35 in Denton, ultimately in the inner first phase to 30 in Rockwall and then from 30 in 617 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:46,200 Rockwall all the way back to Ennis in Ellis County at 45 and 287. So it is a regionally 618 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:58,340 significant arterial. And before we, before cog ventures into those waters, um, they want 619 01:10:58,340 --> 01:11:03,520 to make sure that, um, they know what the traffic is going to do. 620 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:11,640 Um, Brian, I'll pause that. I'll just, just going to ask, is that something that we've 621 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,000 been looking at in our mobility plan? Is that on there? 622 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,000 We actually do have a placeholder. I think a lot of the residents have been calling it 623 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:25,400 the Ganser freeway. So we're showing an intermediate facility tying into four 28, approximately 624 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:32,000 where our Ganser road extension was. So we're, yes, we are in fact, including that at, and 625 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:39,120 we got this information from John as a, just was a pop up a couple of months ago. So we've, 626 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,920 we've had it on the mobility plan as a placeholder, a controlled access facility for about two 627 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,220 months, three months. I'm, I'm pretty concerned about it. Okay. 628 01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:54,280 That's all my questions. Thank you. Do you want us, when we get it to have it as a, maybe 629 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:59,360 an item that we discuss at the mobility committee, once we get the graphics? 630 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:05,640 John, I think there's, there are three items that would probably resonate with, you know, 631 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,860 our constituents, the kinds of things we'd get questions on. I mean, that would be one, 632 01:12:09,860 --> 01:12:15,040 the widening of the bike lane that we discussed before would be the other end. The thing we 633 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:21,500 probably hear about the most is that, you know, the 35 merge onto 380, you know, whatever 634 01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:28,540 intermediate helps are coming there. So I would encourage you to just build those into 635 01:12:28,540 --> 01:12:31,040 your discussion. Yes, sir. 636 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:37,800 Anything else? Council member Briggs? No, thank you. Thank you for letting me take 637 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,480 the time to ask my questions. Hey, that's what we're here. Council member 638 01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:52,080 Ryan, anything at this time? Well, I'll just say that Michael Moore with, 639 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:57,440 with cog has talked about a green bridge. It's something not ever used before for crossing 640 01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:04,080 that green belt area. That's going to be significantly unique in the way that it's built and protection 641 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:09,880 of the, the area. That's, that's intriguing. Certainly sounds 642 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:15,840 better than just clowning our way through it. Yeah. So just for your, for reference, there's 643 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:24,840 currently $50 million earmarked in Denton County and category two funds for that green 644 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:32,560 belt crossing. So just the crossing of the green belt, they're, they allocated 50 million 645 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:38,680 bucks because they know it's not going to be a normal, you know, pier and beam type 646 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:45,880 structure. It's, it's going to have to be environmentally sensitive and you know, the 647 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,400 Corps of Engineers, they're going to, they're going to get their pound of flesh either way. 648 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:57,200 So we know that it's a, it's not just a standalone type of thing. It's going to be a context 649 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:04,820 sensitive approach. Very interested in hearing more. I have just 650 01:14:04,820 --> 01:14:10,240 a general question. You know, we see with all these projects, one of the big, you know, 651 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,800 kind of gating items is the environmental clearance. And I wonder if you could just 652 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:21,600 say at a very high level, what are the criteria that are evaluated and does any project ever 653 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:27,840 fail environmental clearance? Okay. So the environmental clearance process 654 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:35,800 includes not only the environmental impact of a project, but the mitigation required 655 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:43,240 in order for it to be approved. So what typically the way it's supposed to work is you look 656 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:51,640 at a project and if it has, if it meets a certain criteria, number of displacements, 657 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:58,360 environmentally sensitive issues, historically sensitive issues, then it, they do a checklist 658 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:03,040 and then they start with what's called a, with a categorical exclusion, which means 659 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:10,420 that it's in an area that's been disturbed multiple times before. And so they're fairly 660 01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:17,120 competent of what's in that area and that there's very limited sensitive receptors, 661 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,480 for lack of a better word, so they can, they can move into what's that categorical exclusion, 662 01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:26,440 which is a lower level of environmental clearance based on what's been done in the past. Then 663 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:32,240 it moves up to an environmental assessment and the environmental assessment goes into 664 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:38,600 in-depth detail on flora and fauna. So it's going to find out if there's endangered species, 665 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:46,880 it's going to do waters of the US, it's going to do air quality, noise, all of the things 666 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:52,360 that you would in your mind understand environmental issues to address. And then it identifies 667 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:59,800 those impacts. And if that impact has a certain level to it, then there has to be a mitigation 668 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:05,640 program. So if there's noise above a certain level and it's, and it's medicable, if that's 669 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:11,920 a word, then the sound will have to be put in. If there are wetlands of the US that are 670 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:18,360 impacted, they have to be replaced somewhere, whether it's on the corridor itself or in 671 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:23,840 some other location that can be found. And then if there are a certain number of trees 672 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:30,220 or whatever they're impacted, they're replaced typically seven to one. So the mitigation, 673 01:16:30,220 --> 01:16:35,280 so if you can't, if you can achieve the mitigation, then you're environmentally cleared. So there 674 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:42,440 are, there are times that projects are not cleared. And what happens when a project that's 675 01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:47,680 going for an environmental assessment that doesn't get cleared, it doesn't have a finding 676 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:52,440 of no significant impact. It has a finding of significant impact. And so the next step 677 01:16:52,440 --> 01:17:01,120 is what's called an environmental impact study or statement, which is a tenfold greater process 678 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:08,800 you have to follow to move forward on a project if you so choose. Typically, if you get a 679 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:16,600 finding of significant impact, nobody goes to the EIS after that because it's terminal. 680 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:23,120 And so the project typically stops. So I've been doing this for 30 years and no, sir, 681 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:28,360 I haven't found any project that hasn't been able to be mitigated once those impacts were 682 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:35,260 identified. I really appreciate that overview. Thank you very much. I think that's all we 683 01:17:35,260 --> 01:17:45,320 have of the concluding items. Anybody, anybody caught anything I missed? Hearing no objection, 684 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:51,840 I'm going to move on to concluding items. Councilmember Briggs, do you have anything? 685 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,240 I mentioned them before in the matrix, the concluding items, but there was one thing 686 01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:02,680 that I would like this committee to review and it's the update on the small transportation 687 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:09,120 projects. I know there were a few still going on and so if we can have kind of updates on 688 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:18,240 this committee regularly about how those are going, that would be helpful. Anything Councilmember 689 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:32,400 Ryan for concluding items? No. I will entertain a move to adjourn. Do we do that or we just 690 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:39,800 adjourn? I'm going to just adjourn. I'm going to adjourn Executive Authority and adjourn 691 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,720 this meeting at 10.19 a.m. Thank you very much, everyone.