1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,400 all right you're on it's nine o'clock on Monday August 24th we have a virtual 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,280 quorum so we will call the public utilities board meeting to order the 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,100 first item is the consent agenda does any board member wish to pull any items 4 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:33,800 from A, B, or C? I do. Okay, Russ which one? B and C. All right do we have a 5 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:41,400 motion to approve that item A? So moved. Second. All in favor second by saying aye? 6 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:52,800 Aye. Opposed? And that carries. Item B. Yes, should I ask the question first? Yeah I 7 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,640 think I'm gonna ask I think it's that's an acceleron I think that's Krista and 8 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,280 she's here with us and so any question you have she'll be able to respond to. 9 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:11,400 Okay, we're asked here to pay for a software program that will cost 10 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:18,920 approximately $220,000 per year for five years each of five years and it serves 11 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:27,040 about 575 customers so the city of Denton is paying on the average 12 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:36,480 approximately $383 per customer per year for this program. My question is what 13 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,840 benefits does the city of Denton receive for paying that much per customer per 14 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:55,920 year? You're muted. Sorry the reason that you're seeing that value amount is not 15 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,760 because that's our actual cost that's projected cost based on users as we 16 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,680 would increase the utilization of the program. All of the cost of that program 17 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,520 are captured in an increased facility rate only on the users of the program. 18 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:19,560 It's basically a net zero cost to the city but we have to have the the spend 19 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,440 approvals to be able to continue to collect those funds and pay them back 20 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:30,160 out. The program itself allows our users to be able to take outstanding past due 21 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,760 balances, written off debt, bring them into the program, be able to still get 22 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,920 services without a deposit and the majority of our customers like it 70% of 23 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:45,000 them are completely debt-free within about 60 to 80 days so it does serve a 24 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:54,280 valuable purpose for our customers. So I think what you just said was the the 25 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:00,160 people that use this actually pay for it by increased fees built into their rate 26 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:06,400 structures is that right? That is correct. Okay that takes care of that. Are there 27 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:13,080 are there really just 575 people? It says over 575. There are close to 600 at this 28 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:20,160 point. Last year we did a educational campaign with the different apartment 29 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,120 complexes and managements with about 410 different apartment complexes and we're 30 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,520 now distributing information on the pay-as-you-go so that they can put that 31 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,560 out there. We were working on a marketing campaign just about the time the 32 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,360 pandemic started so we kind of had to back burner that but it is on our future 33 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,760 goals for this coming year is to be able to continue to increase adoption rates. 34 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:54,280 Okay. All right do we want to move on to C and then we can approve both B and C? 35 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:08,440 So what's your question on C? Well concerning the the way that the this new 36 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,560 device is going to be charged we're charging by the hour and not by the power 37 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:20,720 that's dispensed. Is that true? So I'm gonna ask Chris Lutrik who's on the line 38 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:30,600 to respond to that. Chris? Yes sir. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes sir you are correct so 39 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:36,440 there's two methods to price or two standard methods for pricing EV charging 40 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:42,520 by the actually the power that flows or or by the minute so a lot of the EV 41 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,560 vehicles out there actually when you plug it in it tells you how many minutes 42 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,240 it takes to charge so that's why we elected to go with that with that with 43 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:56,600 that unit of charge there it's just more simple to understand so it comes out to 44 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,280 four cents per minute the rate that that will be charging and that was the same 45 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:07,400 rate structure that the blink system had so we're just keeping it consistent. 46 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:15,040 Yes I have a question about that then without knowing all of the cost I think 47 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,780 the city of Denton I think we should recover at least what it cost us to 48 00:05:20,780 --> 00:05:27,000 deliver that power to the vehicle does the four cents per minute cover the 49 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,040 cost of doing that? Yes sir it covers our cost so it actually covers the cost of 50 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,840 the power as well as our capital investment so the the four cents a minute 51 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:44,400 we put that on about a six-year ROI for the for the equipment and and we had to 52 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,720 go off just some standard usage rates so of course the more that they're 53 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,880 utilized the quicker we'll pay those off but with the the limited data we had 54 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,840 from the blink system we feel at this time that four cents is adequate and by 55 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:03,120 putting it in the rate structure it can be addressed each year hopefully as the 56 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,760 adoption rate grows we can bring forth more data and more exact pricing in 57 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:15,800 future rate book updates. Okay thank you. Charlie has a question and then Ed has a 58 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:22,080 question Charlie go ahead. Okay on the I see the charge per minute but that kind 59 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:29,720 of omits the rate of charge what is the maximum rate of charge that is delivered 60 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:44,520 by these new machines? That'd be a 7.2 kW. Okay so what do we work out in pennies 61 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:56,920 per kilowatt hour on if somebody's at 7.2 kW? So could you phrase that one more 62 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:06,160 time so somebody charged for an hour at the full 7.2 kW? Right obviously they'd 63 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:15,520 use 7.2 kilowatt hours. Yes sir so at our I guess a way to look at that is if you 64 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:24,120 put that into a residential rate which would be like ten and a half cents per 65 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:33,360 KWH so you're looking at 70 75 cents 80 cents. Okay so we're covering our costs 66 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:41,240 and then some on the rate I would suggest that since we're putting this in 67 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:48,560 the form of a very formal document that we include the 7.2 kilowatt maximum rate 68 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:55,000 in what we pass as an ordinance so that we aren't just charging four pennies per 69 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,520 minute for whatever that way if we have you know more effective machines or 70 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,440 machines that can deliver higher rates of charge we don't have to change our 71 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:12,160 rates and then I have a couple of other questions on this I know that electric 72 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,960 prices fluctuate hourly and wholesale and retail gasoline prices fluctuate 73 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:23,200 hourly if we're trying to find an effective way to fill people up with gas 74 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:30,440 in the form of electricity for electric cars don't we need the ability to 75 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:36,480 vary this rate from time to time depending on our our cost obviously 76 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,840 right now today there's plenty of flexibility into that but if power 77 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:47,880 becomes more costly setting this in stone with no flexibility seems kind of 78 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:56,240 problematic. Yes sir definitely in the future it could be more flexible 79 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,040 interest interestingly we just completed a we put out a survey with our 80 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,600 engineering department and Public Works our public information office for an EV 81 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,640 survey and interest interestingly a lot of people wanted more the feedback we 82 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,480 got was for a more standard rate as opposed to something that varies over 83 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:20,280 time so this this rate is specifically for the public chargers that the city 84 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,320 of Denton owns where that that rate structure would be most beneficial is 85 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,440 majority of the charging is done at home so definitely as we move forward we 86 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,880 brought a plan to you that phase three was within home charging and that's 87 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,800 definitely something that that we will have or offer or hope to offer is a 88 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:44,160 flexible rate where we can encourage our customers to charge at those off-peak 89 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:50,120 times. Wonderful and that would be at home where they would charge at the 90 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,900 off-peak times and charging at home would be at a lower price than using the 91 00:09:54,900 --> 00:10:02,040 machines? Yes sir I would I think that would be the preferred the preferred 92 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:08,320 model there kind of those the chargers that we're putting around town they would 93 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,560 the survey said hey we need more of these so more is a convenience and more 94 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:16,120 as you know you're running out of gas and you're driving by a gas station you 95 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,160 can always get gas so there will be you know most of that charging will be done 96 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,720 during the day which is on the high peak or the high use time so I think we 97 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:33,800 can help shape the the the activities of our EV chargers by incentivizing them to 98 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:41,600 charge at home and off-peak time. Okay I would suggest that we include the 7.2 99 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:48,320 kilowatt rate in the ordinance that we pass so that it's documented that you 100 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:54,640 know the size of the pipe I think is very important in terms of the of the 101 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:00,080 cost if we're going to publish this as as part of our rate book we ought to have 102 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,160 7.2 kilowatts in there as the maximum charging rate so that somebody who reads 103 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:12,680 it can quantify what they're paying per kilowatt hour. Yes sir we can do that it 104 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:17,480 may be more beneficial to state that as a level 2 charger if we got a got a 105 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:24,920 charger in it's slightly different at 7.3 KW or 7.5 I think the standard in 106 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,840 the industry that's a level 2 it's a 240 volt 40 amp service would you be 107 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,080 comfortable with that language? You bet I don't mind building a little 108 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,840 flexibility into the language but I think to just say charge per minute 109 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:46,080 leaves out something that's crucial. Yes sir thank you for the feedback. You bet. 110 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Ed did you have a question? Sort of a question and some observations I have a 111 00:11:50,960 --> 00:12:01,040 home charger and I it tells me exactly how many miles I'm going to get per hour 112 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:11,680 of charge and I wondered if that is that differs with different models of cars or 113 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:17,840 if it's the same with everybody if they fill up with the same amount of 114 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:27,440 electricity at the same rate so if if I had a question it would be how many miles 115 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:34,520 per hour would how many miles does one hour of our charging the city's charging 116 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:41,440 provide the driver of the car is that is that a blanket figure for all electric 117 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,040 cars or does it does it is is it different for different types of 118 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:54,880 electric cars? Yes sir it's different I believe your car the battery capacity on 119 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:02,600 a Tesla's are much much higher than say the Nissan Leaf so it depends on the 120 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,560 size of battery that the the car is outputted with how much how fast it can 121 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:14,920 take that power. Okay all right well this great I'm I'm very happy that this is 122 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:22,080 going to be expanded through the city thanks. Billy I saw your hand up yeah 123 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:30,840 okay so there's a nationwide discussion about user fees for electric cars and I 124 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,000 think you know I think that electric cars and electric trucks hopefully are 125 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,380 the wave of the future I mean big trucks not the not the 126 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:46,840 spaceship that Elon's coming out with here pretty soon. My concern would be our 127 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,920 user our return on investment franchise fee however you want to look at it's 128 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,120 probably a little different than franchise fee it's a true user fee like 129 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:00,680 a fuel tax is. Is there a discussion going forward on how we might implement 130 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:06,840 something like that Chris? Yes sir Mr. Chief there is kind of if you think way 131 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,340 back to the early days of the ATM card where a bank had a network and it gave 132 00:14:11,340 --> 00:14:16,160 you a card and you could go specifically to that bank and get cash out and it 133 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,960 took the government to step in to say hey we need a unified network where you 134 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,880 know your Wells Fargo card can work at a Bank of America or a Citibank so there 135 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:32,200 is talk in the in the industry the EV industry of having a network where say 136 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,260 for instance our customers will need to be a charge point customer that their 137 00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:40,720 charge point access could be used at Tesla it could be used at any of the 138 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 other charging networks across the country but that's probably going to 139 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,520 take some federal oversight and federal standardization to make that happen but 140 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:55,760 it is being discussed. Right yeah and if anybody's not if I wasn't clear I think 141 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,240 Chris knew what I was talking about but you know when you buy gas for your 142 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,000 current vehicle or my current vehicle I pay a tax on it some of it goes to the 143 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,960 federal government something goes to the state government that's what I was 144 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,120 talking about is going forward how to how do we charge because electric 145 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:20,300 vehicles currently don't have a path to charge for the use of the roads I'm 146 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:24,480 sorry I completely missed your question there so you are correct that's like 147 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:29,000 point you know nine cents tenths of a penny that goes to the highway fund 148 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,220 there are often talks in the industry about making a registration you have to 149 00:15:34,220 --> 00:15:38,320 put your mileage on the vehicle so say you register your car this year and you 150 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,560 said 9,000 miles and next year you're at you know 10,000 miles you would pay a 151 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,880 tax on a thousand miles that you that you drove so I think that's about the 152 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,320 only way being that electricity can come from anywhere there's no real real way 153 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,000 that's a meter that they don't have to be the counties or the states through 154 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,280 the registration of the actual mileage on the vehicle yeah that would be 155 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,360 difficult as well trying to get it trying to get people to correctly state 156 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:12,120 their mileage every year as well so well you get it inspected so maybe that's a 157 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,120 way to do it Charlie you have another question I was just going to approve 158 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:25,960 move approval of items B and C with the revision that I suggested and Susan I 159 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,640 think I think we have to take individual motions on each one of those items yeah 160 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:41,280 I agree why don't we I approve B I move B second okay all in favor say I I move 161 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:49,280 approval of C with the revision specifying the kilowatt rate second okay 162 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:59,400 we have a motion in a second all in favor say aye opposed all right next up 163 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,640 is items for individual consideration consider the approval of the August 10th 164 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:11,880 2020 minutes is there any corrections or changes okay do we have a motion to 165 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:24,360 approve okay second all in favor say aye aye opposed okay next item is to 166 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:28,720 consider the approval of the bill of sale an assumption agreement with 167 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Denton Power LLC in the amount of two million seven hundred and fifty thousand 168 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,000 dollars plus an adjustment for August 2020 energy deliveries not to exceed 169 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:53,240 150,000 you're on mute Terry good morning Terry Nolte assistant general 170 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,680 manager bear with me a second I'll pull up the presentation 171 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:47,240 [Silence] 172 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:56,000 all right finally okay this this presentation is seeking approval to 173 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:04,120 purchase the Denton Power LLC landfill generation facility from DTE biomass 174 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:15,520 energy currently the facility is a 1.6 megawatt facility operated by the LLC 175 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:23,600 DTE biomass energy and their Texas affiliate Denton Power LLC it did begin 176 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:32,200 operation in 2009 the solid waste department receives 12.5 percent of 177 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:38,200 gross energy revenues as a royalty payment and we entered into a power 178 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:46,000 purchase agreement for 15 years at escalating prices that started at $68 a 179 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:59,160 megawatt hour and and in 2024 at $112.84 per megawatt hour the the the 1.6 180 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,440 megawatts actually runs at about 1.2 megawatts on average and that let 181 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:11,160 represents less than 1% of our overall renewable energy supply here you can see 182 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:18,680 the the above-market price of the of the power the red line represents the PPA 183 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:25,760 price the blue line is the around-the-clock price for the North Hub and 184 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,640 you can see it's significantly above market it's the second and the highest 185 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:39,960 priced resource that we have in our in our fleet at between 96 and 112 dollars 186 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:48,480 for the remaining term of the agreement we're proposing to purchase the assets 187 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:56,600 for two point seven five million as you can see that represents savings to 188 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,320 customers because if we were to stay in the contract we'd pay five point three 189 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,080 five million dollars over the remaining term yet the energy only has a market 190 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:14,600 value of 1.53 million the only way for us to achieve the savings is through the 191 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,200 purchase and assumption of the agreements including the power purchase 192 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:31,240 agreement so on a net present value this acquisition would save two point six 193 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:39,280 million dollars in in power supply that assumes the shutdown of the facility and 194 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:46,680 the flaring of the landfill gas as I mentioned that the future payments are 195 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:53,360 five point three million three five million and net present value because 196 00:21:53,360 --> 00:22:00,760 we're a hundred percent renewable this and this represents less than 1% it will 197 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:06,360 not move the needle on our 100% renewable objective by by shutting it 198 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:12,120 down to the extent we don't shut it down and continue to operate it the NPV would 199 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:22,520 be reduced now we'll talk a little bit about the beneficial reuse of the 200 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:29,560 landfill gas you'll be receiving an update on on options for this in the 201 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:35,320 coming month a month or so as solid waste is continuing to investigate 202 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:45,880 alternatives to generating energy with the with the landfill gas there is 203 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,040 currently a flare at the landfill that is run whenever there's excess gas 204 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:58,120 produced or whenever the facilities on a forced outage and so flaring happens on 205 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:11,520 a fairly regular basis and I last thing I'll say about the the the project is 206 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,880 the issue of whether to run the facility or not run the facility after we purchase 207 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:23,200 it is not really a part of this action that we're seeking today we're simply 208 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:31,600 seeking your recommendation to move the ordinance forward to the council tomorrow 209 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,440 to allow us to purchase the asset and with that I'd be glad to answer any 210 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:42,480 questions I do have some additional slides on on the environmental attributes 211 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,320 of flaring versus continuing to operate if that would be of interest I'd like 212 00:23:48,320 --> 00:24:01,280 to see it like to see that okay all right so this is just a the 213 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:07,640 considerations that we have if we were to purchase and operate the generation 214 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:15,560 assets our our NPV goes down and we would only run that facility until an 215 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:23,280 addition an alternative beneficiary uses in place if we flare the landfill gas 216 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:30,720 we achieve the full 2.6 million it does improve the emission profile in terms of 217 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:40,280 lower hydrocarbons and lower greenhouse gas there is an opportunity potentially 218 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:46,800 to use what's called produce medium BTU gas we did not there that would be 219 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,200 selling a low quality gas to a local manufacturing facility that could use 220 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,880 the energy and there's a low probability because there's a lack of customers the 221 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,040 preliminary report from the engineers is that a twenty three point eight million 222 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,920 dollar capital investment whether that's made by the city or made by a third 223 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,120 party could be used to clean up the gas and produce a high quality BTU gas 224 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:16,120 and inject it into an Atmos pipeline we're still working on the business 225 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:21,320 cases with solid waste on those and and that'll be part of what we bring back to 226 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:37,400 PUB and council here's the environmental attributes if you see here for flaring 227 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,120 these are the non methane organic compounds you can see in flaring we get 228 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:52,680 about an 90 to 99 percent control efficiency for the halogenates 229 00:25:52,680 --> 00:26:00,920 halogenated to species 91 to 99 and for the non halogenated 38 to 99 you can see 230 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:07,320 a pretty wide variation these are from the US EPA's AP 42 manual which is the 231 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,880 go-to for characterization of emissions from various types of combustion 232 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,080 sources and control technologies you can see the the internal combustion engine 233 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:25,760 here lower efficiencies an average or typical efficiency that is lower than 234 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,760 the flare and more importantly if you look at the actual emissions the flare 235 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,640 emissions with the exception of carbon monoxide are significantly less than the 236 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:45,280 internal combustion engine the carbon monoxide carbon monoxide is a toxic gas 237 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:55,640 it is a minor ozone precursor it actually bonds with hydroxide radicals 238 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:07,040 and consequently it can reduce the by doing hydroxide radicals or you are 239 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,560 actually beneficial and so when you bind those with carbon monoxide it reduces 240 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:20,600 the the beneficial hydroxide so that's why it's a minor carbon it's a minor 241 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:28,840 greenhouse gas but it's very very much less greenhouse potent as compared to 242 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,640 carbon dioxide so we're seeing that nitrogen oxide reductions which is an 243 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:41,360 ozone precursor significant reduction in in nitrogen oxides and in particulate 244 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:49,560 matter as well so with that I'll answer any questions I have another question is 245 00:27:49,560 --> 00:28:03,600 there a slide on on how this would impact Denton's carbon footprint no I 246 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:10,720 have not I've not gotten with Kenny's folks to figure out what that whether 247 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,920 there would be a impact on on the carbon footprint my understanding is because 248 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:23,080 these are the degradation of waste in the landfill is not treated like a 249 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:29,720 hydrocarbon emission from combustion of a fossil fuel it's it's a non fossil 250 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,640 carbon source and so it would have less impact on the carbon footprint it's not 251 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,920 included fully in our carbon footprint calculations is there any chance of just 252 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,840 exploring that with with dr. Banks's sure yeah thank you that'll be part of 253 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,000 the report that we come back to you with when we bring the business cases back to 254 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,440 you on the alternatives okay thank you Karen you had your hand up yeah quick 255 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:04,320 question I just wanted to know what a control efficiency was that's the that's 256 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,760 the removal percentage of the pollutant so the percentage of the pollutant that's 257 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:16,040 removed during the process correct okay so you want a high number yes ma'am okay 258 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:22,480 thank you Billy yeah there was a mention in one of the slides in the first 259 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:30,040 presentation Terry we talked about you'll still if we purchase this and I 260 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,440 think either way I'm on board with purchasing it that you would run the 261 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,120 facility but there wasn't really a set time of how long you would run the 262 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,680 facility what does that measure is that the ROI on it or what is that measure 263 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:52,440 that that assumed the 1.2 to 1.3 million NPV savings as compared to the 2.6 264 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,440 assumes that we would run it till the end of the contract life which is in 265 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:04,480 2024 okay so currently that additional cost is just passed on to the rate 266 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,560 payers as a whole and divided into our total production or sells yes it's 267 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:18,640 captured through the ECA the energy cost adjustment it is on the ECA okay okay 268 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,800 well I hate this I hate to burn things in the air but it is I know it's always 269 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,800 it's been a loser for us for a long time but we originally put this in there 270 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,440 because I think that was the measure was are we gonna flare this into the air or 271 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:39,680 at least get something out and if it is costing the rate payers more I get that 272 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,320 this is Tony Billy I would also point out that you know Terry alluded to this 273 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,360 business case analysis that we're gonna come back to you on in the next month 274 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,000 or so I think part of the issue here too is that you know the the facility also 275 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,080 needs some repair and also some ongoing maintenance and so there's there'll be 276 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,640 additional cost that we need to go through when we come back to you okay 277 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:16,320 thanks Jerry a quick question first of all I'm very much in favor of this sale 278 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,840 and secondly I'd like to maybe say something it's obvious to everybody but 279 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:29,280 when we the sort of underscores the risk that's involved in signing long-term 280 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:36,720 energy contracts long term being 15 years out and boy this shows the effects 281 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:43,640 of that adversely better than a lot of things can show I was wondering what 282 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:51,600 other long-term energy obligations do we have that go out this far they go out 283 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:59,120 15 years yeah we we do have some contracts in our portfolio that are 284 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,200 long-term contracts most of the very long-term contracts are more favorably 285 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:12,240 priced than these we do have our whitetail win contract which also 286 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,600 terminates in 2024 it's a way above market contract as well and then we have 287 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:25,240 our bluebell solar contract and I apologize mr. Baffert I don't know the 288 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,200 termination date off the top of my head on that but it is a long-term contract 289 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,880 and it is an above-market contract you have to remember though those contracts 290 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:41,600 are small volumes and were entered into at the onset of the renewable Denton 291 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:49,280 plan to achieve the hundred percent or at that time 70% removal so or 70% 292 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:58,680 environment 70% renewable supply and so we do take in all of our projections 293 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,720 when we look at our five-year ten-year plans we are taking into account the 294 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,480 out-of-moneyness of those contracts and as we mentioned to you we're not asking 295 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:19,680 for any rate case eight rate increases in the next year well as I remember and 296 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Billy you may remember this too when we entered into those contracts those were 297 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,200 pretty good pretty good rates they just as things improved they became less 298 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:35,040 favorable yeah when they started giving natural gas away like they are today 299 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:49,080 alright any other questions all right do we have a motion to approve and then all 300 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:58,120 in favor say aye aye opposed motion carries management update so madam 301 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,320 chair and PB members we have a couple reports that we've provided to you you 302 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:09,480 have the deck report dashboard for the month of June certainly if you have any 303 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,960 questions we have folks here that can respond to that and then we the other 304 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,160 report that we've also provided to you is a memo from Frank Pugsley on the 305 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,080 hydroelectric plant that was a question I think that mr. Parker had posed and so 306 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,000 we did a little research and have provided that to you certainly if you 307 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,400 have any questions on either one of those items we'll be happy to address 308 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:39,240 those I had one question about the deck go ahead yeah this is probably a 309 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:45,360 profoundly stupid question so I apologize out front but it's just a 310 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,200 matter of clarification I am I am you know someone of the public who is who 311 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,960 is saying not particularly well versed in these aspects but I see if I look at 312 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:05,880 June 2020 I see that the engine runtime was 980 hours I look at over at the 313 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,120 graph on the right side and I see that there were some times where it was over 314 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:20,880 2,000 hours of operation now the stupid question is for example June has 720 315 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:28,320 hours in it the 30 days or whatever it is 30 days of June 24 hours a day equals 316 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:35,320 720 hours so I look at that and I say damn you know how did it run more hours 317 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,600 when there are in the month Terry can provide a response I bet he can't that's 318 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:49,640 a bring it on that is a that's a great question we actually totalize the hours 319 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:56,360 for all 12 engines so when you see that number it's the total hours for the for 320 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:03,320 the engine so it's 720 hours in a month if one engine ran it'd be 720 hours but 321 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,560 if two engines ran for the whole month it'd be 1440 hours and that's why you 322 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,720 see such a large number as compared to the hours in the month I would strongly 323 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:20,280 recommend that that at some point on the website or as an another asterisk on 324 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,800 this report that that that be indicated and in the future I'm sure maybe you 325 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:33,200 already have it would be curious to see the the profiles of usage in terms of 326 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:40,440 when how much few and few engines are used and how often there's there's a 327 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,760 full compliment engaged and of course I know that has to do with the load and 328 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:52,480 what's needed but just see percentages of how that's looking now yes sir yes sir 329 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,840 we could put you know a utilization for the plant as a percent of the available 330 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:10,320 hours in the month if that would be helpful probably be more informative 331 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:16,280 without providing a level of detail that would make a lot of people 332 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:35,520 uninterested any other questions all right and that brings us to concluding 333 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,200 items does any board member wish to add anything to a future agenda or have 334 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:49,200 any comments to make hearing none we'll go into work session the first item is 335 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,520 to receive a report hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding the 336 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:59,520 customer service water wastewater solid waste and elect fiscal year 2021 proposed 337 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,480 budget capital improvement program rates and five-year financial forecast good 338 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,760 morning PB members chair Nick Benson assistant director finance I'll do a 339 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,600 brief introduction and I will turn it over to Krista Foster the customer 340 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,360 service manager to review her proposed budget so as I said the first 341 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,400 presentation day is customer service a few board members probably were on the 342 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,520 board back when customer service was separated from the water fund but if not 343 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:30,640 as a reminder and also to make everybody aware water and customer service were one 344 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,280 fund prior to fiscal year 1718 we actually separated customer service from 345 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,960 the water utility to increase the transparency of customer service and 346 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,720 create an internal service fund out of it and following that presentation I'll 347 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,800 walk you through the budget process explaining the current and the previous 348 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,320 process that was in place I mean get your feedback and answer any questions 349 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,000 you may have and then after that we will go through each the utility budgets and 350 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,840 further our discussion regarding 2021 proposed budget each of the operational 351 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,200 discussions for the utilities have been taken out of the presentations however 352 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,000 the directors are on the phone today are present to answer any questions if you 353 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,120 have regarding the operations of each utility and each PB member should have 354 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,880 received an exhibit for a mini budget book for each of the utilities and this 355 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,720 is to further the conversations for each utility and this is something we provide 356 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:23,600 to the public utility board each year as part of the budgeting process so the 357 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,120 numbers that you see in those mini budget books are supportive of the 358 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,960 presentations that you will see today and then with that if you don't have any 359 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,640 questions for me I will turn it over to Krista Foster to present customer 360 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:40,880 service and madam chairs as she's getting ready to do that just a reminder 361 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,360 got a message from Billy when you speak if you could get a little bit if people 362 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400 get a little bit closer to their microphone they're having a hard time 363 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:54,240 hearing some of you thank you good morning madam chair board members 364 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:58,440 Krista Foster customer service manager I'm here this morning to be able to give 365 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,640 you a high-level overview of our budget and some of the things that we've done 366 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,960 in the last year and where we're moving in the next year so we're gonna start 367 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,600 with accomplishments and future goals there are a number of things that we've 368 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,400 done in customer service a couple of the things I'd like to highlight is the 369 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,800 first thing that we've done is we have implemented a customer reported first 370 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,080 contact resolution prior to that it was something that we had to collect 371 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,680 internally as part of our call coaching process but at this point we actually 372 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,320 ask the customer at the end of their call they're allowed to take their survey in 373 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,480 person or by telephone and they report was your issue resolved is this the 374 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,360 first time you've contacted us regarding this instance of this issue another 375 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,720 thing that we've done is we've deployed a self-service phone line for salt waste 376 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:52,240 request so if a customer for instance on a Monday collection decides to go out 377 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:56,020 and do some yard work on the weekend we don't want them to have to wait an 378 00:40:56,020 --> 00:41:00,480 entire week to schedule a collection they can use that line schedule it on 379 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,240 the weekend we're gonna make sure that they're on that Monday collection 380 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:07,320 schedule otherwise for all other callers they can opt in and out of the yard waste 381 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,440 program they can schedule brush collections they can schedule the bagged 382 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,400 leaf collections and they can do that 24 hours a day seven days a week then 383 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,280 we've also done as I'd mentioned before the outreach with our apartment complexes 384 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,680 to really start educating the public on the benefits of the pay-as-you-go 385 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,920 program and we will continue doing that in the next year we're looking to 386 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,840 implement a CRM which will allow us to increase the scope of what we can work 387 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,560 on in the contact center and we're going to be moving toward the three one one 388 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,000 environment as we introduce that and then we're also going to be looking at 389 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,200 introducing language line services one of the things that I discovered and was 390 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,960 a little bit surprised about is that we have two universities in this city which 391 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,400 bring in lots of international students and we have no means to provide service 392 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,620 in foreign language so that's part of what my budget for the next year 393 00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:06,200 includes is the funding to be able to provide better services to all of our 394 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,200 customers and meet the diversity that we have in the city of Denton so there 395 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,760 have been a lot of philosophical changes in customer service over the last year 396 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,040 the biggest first change is that we have reworked the way that we measure our 397 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,800 success what I'm looking at now is benchmark benchmarking against industry 398 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,660 performers private public in the utility sector to see where are the top four 399 00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:37,280 tile performers in that industry we're realigning our metrics to match those 400 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,840 same measurements to make sure that we can provide at least top quartile 401 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,320 service or better and we're moving that direction one of the other things we've 402 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,400 done that is huge is customer service has implemented a permanent telecommuting 403 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:59,240 work structure we have given about 26 cubicles seven offices and we'll have our 404 00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:04,520 staff working from home at least 90% of the time for most positions it will vary 405 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:12,200 based on the position but we have moved into that structure so operationally you 406 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:18,160 can see prior fiscal year performance compared to others but the one thing that 407 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,240 I really want to mention about this is even though the prior fiscal year you're 408 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:29,080 seeing from FY 17 to FY 18 a decrease in call volume this year if you look at 409 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,440 that current operational performance you're going to see that our call 410 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,680 volumes have been a consistent fourteen point eight percent higher than the 411 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,240 previous year and that has been from October all the way through current so 412 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:47,520 we're seeing a significant increase in the number of people who are calling we 413 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,800 are working very hard to make sure that we're taking care of those those folks 414 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,840 but the ones that I'm most proud of is as I mentioned we've moved to customer 415 00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,600 reported first call resolution we also measure our very satisfied and very 416 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,880 dissatisfied customers because those are the customers who drive your reputation 417 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,160 in the public if they're very happy or they're very unhappy and as you can see 418 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,120 I've compared our group the call center and the lobby against the top quartile 419 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,040 average for those same metrics in the utilities industry and you can see that 420 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,080 we're outperforming on both first call resolution and our very satisfied 421 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:33,080 customers by more than 10% and our very dissatisfied rate we're at just below 422 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:40,060 what would happen in the best performers in our industry our FTE summary we have 423 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:43,760 eliminated as we've reorganized some of our division we have eliminated our 424 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,920 administrative assistant position and we have removed our assistant customer 425 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,960 service manager from our budget this has allowed us to produce some budgetary 426 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,920 savings that we can carry through the next year it's also allowed us to have a 427 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:03,200 little more flexibility in some of rearranging some of our workloads this 428 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,440 is what our new organizational chart looks like it's just the two positions 429 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,200 removed and we did reorganize to have our cash specialist falling under 430 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,920 revenue assurance since they are a critical part of the revenue process we 431 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,180 are making sure that there will be no conflict of interest between the two 432 00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:23,800 positions so that we can maintain all the financial security controls that are 433 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:30,400 necessary for the positions so as Nick mentioned we are an internal service 434 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,600 fund but this is a overview of our budget you'll notice that we've only 435 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,080 we're only realizing about a hundred and ninety two thousand dollars in savings 436 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,560 we actually cut about five hundred thousand dollars out of our budget 437 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:51,520 however as we implement the new merchant service provider we do have to add that 438 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,600 two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars back into our budget to 439 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,160 accommodate for the credit card fees that we're going to be absorbing and 440 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:04,000 we're also putting in our supplemental for the language line services and then 441 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,760 we had a couple of other small things that increased in price but overall 442 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:16,320 you're seeing about a hundred and ninety two thousand dollars in reduction this is what that will look like as it spread across the 443 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:29,360 utilities so you can see how that will make us whole and that is it I'll be 444 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:42,480 happy to answer any questions I'd just like to say I have the people you have 445 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,840 working there that meet face-to-face every day or about the most courteous 446 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:55,320 that I've run into they do a very good job they handle your business I'm always 447 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,160 happy to talk to him and I'll extend that comment to the people in the field 448 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,080 I'm very impressed with the professionalism that I encounter when 449 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,200 somebody's you know draining a fire hydrant just doing their ordinary day 450 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,760 to day responsibilities you guys really do a good job of providing customer 451 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,560 service thank you and please thank them I will make sure that that is relayed 452 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:30,840 other questions and you're you're muted sorry could you go back to the slide 453 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:37,560 that shows the flowchart of the positions I just had a question about 454 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:50,440 the one thing let me make sure I can share this one what are billing 455 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:56,760 specialists and what is a billing supervisor okay the billing supervisor 456 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,880 oversees all of the processes overseas all of the staff that manage billing 457 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,400 those billing specialists we have billing specialists that focus on say 458 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,720 making sure that billing is done properly for all of our key accounts we 459 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,240 have billing specialists who work on just commercial services to make sure 460 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,880 that everything is there do we need to go out and check a read on a meter are 461 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,020 the right rates applied and doing all of that work they do order closeout they do 462 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:29,280 a lot of the different things that are the behind-the-scenes part of making 463 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:45,000 sure that customers can be billed accurately okay thank you very much 464 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:55,280 and I to applaud customer service we all because I'm a customer yep yes yes we 465 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,880 are so since I said if there's no other questions we can go on to the next 466 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:14,800 presentation okay that would be water then no yes so the next the presentation 467 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,760 chair will be a brief presentation of the current budget process compared to 468 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,080 previous years and then we'll get into discussion of each of the utility 469 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,000 starting with water there is a total of five presentations so Susan if you feel 470 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,400 like we need to take a break just let me know and be happy to take a break and 471 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:39,080 come back whatever you want to do so real quick I have a couple slides I know 472 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,560 a lot of this conversation August the third was focused about how we did it 473 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,640 previously in the budgeting process and what the current process is now so what 474 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,800 I wanted to do for all the PV members that are new or may have been on the 475 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,880 board previously is really kind of walk you through what the previous process 476 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,600 was and what the current process is so currently you can see we have a 477 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,520 comprehensive capital project planning implementation this has been the city's 478 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,920 focused over the last few years which is really obvious in the utility finances 479 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,760 and I'll point this out to you and some of the debt service decreases in each 480 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,280 of the funds some of the other focus has been cost containment transparency and 481 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,360 emphasis on the city's core values talk about that a little bit more and then 482 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,200 fiscal year 2021 so really what I wanted to do is create a table that really 483 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,800 summarized you know what the timeline looked like before and what it looks 484 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,400 like now and explain the two and ask or answer any questions that you may have so 485 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:38,760 the volume forecast previously prior to fiscal year 2017 the the staff did bring 486 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,880 a volume and load forecast forward to the public utility board usually around 487 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,000 January or February of each year as you can see the current process we do not 488 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,920 bring this forward in January and February this has been combined with the 489 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,840 budget discussions that start around July or August and so we did leave that 490 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,600 blank just to kind of point that out that that's not coming for the public 491 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,680 utility board currently in January and February the next group we want to talk 492 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,360 about was review the utility budgets and CIP so as I'd mentioned earlier we did 493 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,920 provide everybody a mini budget book and this is consistent with previous years 494 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,520 we are currently doing this so that book was provided to the public utility board 495 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,320 today a detailed budget presentation we did have these presentations in July to 496 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,920 talk about DME and then August the 3rd for the rest of the utilities previously 497 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,420 there were three meetings usually to talk about this these steps or this 498 00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:31,800 budget with the public utility board the current process we have two 499 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,000 discussions built into the budget discussions and this is consistent with 500 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,360 the previous couple fiscal years and then we'll have meetings to review the 501 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,920 the proposed rate changes the proposed rate changes previously were discussed 502 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,960 around July of each year and this year we do plan to discuss those with the 503 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,160 public utility board in greater detail in September on September 15th or excuse 504 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,880 me September 14th we're planning to come back to the utility board the red line 505 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,380 rate ordinance I do want to point out though that you know the presentations 506 00:52:01,380 --> 00:52:05,240 that we'll cover today does include the rate changes that we are proposing this 507 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:09,360 year but part of the process is to improve transparency of each of the 508 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,000 utilities we do bring a red line rate ordinance for you that really spells out 509 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,480 what those changes are for each utility and then finally we get to the budget 510 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,480 and rate approval previously it was around the August time period and like I 511 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,600 said this is September 14th this year it does change year to year but usually 512 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,480 it's around the end of August or September in the current process the 513 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,200 utility projects update this is something that was requested by the 514 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,600 public utility board on August the 3rd and we will be coming back to you in 515 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,520 September with this discussion to talk about the details of each of the 516 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,080 projects in the utilities I would like to point out you know that this would 517 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,000 include the initial project funding any anticipated completion date of the 518 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,380 projects any obstacles that may be out there that we can review with the public 519 00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:58,080 utility board for these projects and then as previously mentioned on August 520 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,260 the 3rd the mid-year budget and rate update we do plan to come back with that 521 00:53:02,260 --> 00:53:06,040 detailed discussion in December allowing us time to fully understand the COVID 522 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,160 impact on the utilities and also capture those high usage months for each of the 523 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,840 utilities in July and August so something that previously was not done 524 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,280 we do like this is a good process moving forward once we get those high usage 525 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:25,640 months rate increases or decreases so since 2018 the city's continued emphasis 526 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,720 on financial transparency cost containment really looking at those 527 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:33,520 projects to identify unallocated funding to reprioritize it have led to no rate 528 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,240 increases for the city didn't utilities so what I want to do is summarize it 529 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:42,120 from fiscal year 2017 through fiscal year 2021 as you can see for each of the 530 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:47,160 utilities from 2015 to 2017 we consistently had rate increases since 531 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,520 2017 starting in fiscal year 2018 we have had no rate increases so the city 532 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,860 didn't utilities we've actually had decreases at least one each year since 533 00:53:56,860 --> 00:54:04,360 then and we'll talk about this a little bit more in the presentation but this is 534 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,680 the overall rate decreases we are proposing this year so in 2021 and you 535 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,080 can see the 2% rate decrease for water customers which equates to about a 536 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,440 dollar and eight cents and then the one dollar decrease for the standard solid 537 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,280 waste customer of a dollar so overall the utility bill for customers could 538 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,040 expect it on two dollars and eight cents for the average residential customer 539 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,320 that concludes the budget process presentation I'll pull it down for 540 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,800 questions that we can go into water if there's any questions no quick question 541 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:46,520 yes sir slide number 11 that you had you just showed at the the bottom right 542 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:52,580 corner you have something called and the ability to maximize spend when I see the 543 00:54:52,580 --> 00:54:57,520 term maximize spend I get an adverse physical reaction to that maximize 544 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:04,800 spending and I'm wondering if having having done a lot of project stuff in 545 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,720 the past I think we should be more concerned about getting projects 546 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:15,560 completed on time rather than doing accounting gyrations to move money 547 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:22,480 around to make it look like we spent all we had budgeted so I I guess I'd like 548 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:30,400 to use a different term and maximize spend there if that's possible you see 549 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,680 what I mean yes yes sir mr. Baffert we definitely can address that that term 550 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,240 was simply meant to imply to look at those projects look at that funding is 551 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:42,120 allocated and actually get those projects completed so we can get that 552 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:56,760 terminology yes all right no questions Oh Billy's got a question sorry I was 553 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:06,560 trying to get my mute button I was missing the slide on the right utility 554 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,440 budget rate process that shows current meetings when we address the budget 555 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:17,200 versus the previous meetings it's probably my it's my same question as a 556 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:27,940 whole not one certain utility why the why the elongated time to wait for the 557 00:56:27,940 --> 00:56:34,200 current meetings versus how the previous meetings would go you're talking about 558 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,800 the forecasting data start in January and February now discussing in July and 559 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,960 August yes I think the majority to answer your question is that reliability 560 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,560 of that forecast data so you know in the water utility looking at the volume 561 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,880 forecast and DME looking at the load forecast that additional time allows 562 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,520 staff to look at those forecasts for all the utilities and refine that budget 563 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,440 appropriately so we did make that adjustment a couple of fiscal years ago 564 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,160 from moving it from January to February to July and August to improve the 565 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,360 reliability of those forecasts reach the utility so hopefully that answers your 566 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:15,040 check your question mr. cheek as previously stated a couple three weeks 567 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,040 you know whatever it was just I just feel like the more time that we have to 568 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:27,480 look at the anticipated budgets the better advice we may be able to give for 569 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:38,200 council and I think I would look at today's presentations of August 24th and 570 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:44,800 then I see that that would be presented to council August 25th so if the PB did 571 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:51,760 have some input in regards to changing something on the budget you'd have you 572 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,800 know a little more than 24 hours for council to possibly even to see what 573 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,240 that recommendation may have been and why it was recommended and Billy this is 574 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,660 time that that's really not true if we needed to move the presentation back to 575 00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:13,600 council for even another month we could the only real urgency on the finances 576 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,800 Nick if you could take that down the only the only real front urgency on the 577 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,160 finances is the property tax levy so that's not necessarily the case and 578 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,120 quite frankly the reason to kind of obviously this is a weird year in terms 579 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:30,520 of the utilities and trying to assess in the city budget as a whole but we have 580 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:36,000 watched the last two or three years our estimates be pretty wildly inaccurate in 581 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,060 water electrics so what that means is that we've ended up with more money at 582 00:58:40,060 --> 00:58:44,200 times than we need that we can actually spend and so I think I think what they're 583 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,480 trying to do is give you the best information as possible get through July 584 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,680 and August where you've got the hottest months that can really swing those two 585 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,600 utilities and that way you've got better information but with the utilities 586 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,540 there's no urgency to have this done tomorrow I mean we could easily go into 587 00:58:59,540 --> 00:59:04,680 mid mid September and give you that additional time if you needed sure time 588 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,160 and I understand that things fluctuate but we do know that July and August are 589 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,800 going to be hot months and we can anticipate what those months will be 590 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,720 obviously well let me let me give you a great example last year we went in 591 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,880 showing a significant deficit in the electric fund had a lot of talks about 592 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,120 whether we should be raising rates that sort of thing we ended up getting having 593 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:33,400 four or five huge days with the deck and it completely in in one week changed the 594 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,440 entire forecast for the year so we spent numerous meetings talking about rate 595 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,960 increases change in the ECA that sort of thing and within one week it was all 596 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,560 moot discussion so I think that's what we're trying to get you through is those 597 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:52,240 those those months that we know can really swing the budgets at least get 598 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,720 you up as close as we can through August and say okay this is the best 599 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,120 information we have because the council got a little bit annoyed last year we 600 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,960 had spent you know numerous hours talking about it and so we're just trying 601 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,280 to think about how do we get through with those two utilities in particular 602 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,960 how do we get through these months and try to get as good of information as 603 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:19,080 possible you know based on what we've learned okay well your capital 604 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:24,360 expenditures are more likely not going to change or your predicted capital 605 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,200 expenditures are not going to change that much by the from May to August I 606 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:34,640 wouldn't think but your but your your revenues could change significantly 607 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,840 several millions of dollars which is just not something that you know why 608 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,080 spend a lot of time talking about rate increases and getting people worked up 609 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,120 when in fact if that happens again I mean we basically are building field 610 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:52,120 goals now saying okay if we have a lean July and August here's what the budget 611 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,760 looks like if we get into a situation like last year where you end up with my 612 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,760 gosh you know 15 or 17 million more than we anticipated we you know there would 613 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,200 have been absolutely zero reason to go in and raise rates which ended up 614 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,240 happening and we were able to do some additional things to catch up and avoid 615 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,200 that but it changes the policy discussion that the PUB and the council 616 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:19,960 were having when we have better information okay I just don't see the 617 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,400 harm in this if y'all are discussing it why can't we see the discussions I don't 618 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,880 think there's anything that you can't see so I I'm not sure where that's 619 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,400 coming from but we're absolutely we're happy to you know to make sure that 620 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,640 we've got a schedule there and you can sort of see different iterations of the 621 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,680 budget moving forward in terms of your capital investment that's been the other 622 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,400 thing and I appreciate Russ's comments earlier about the verbiage being used 623 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,440 but that has really been something that we've we've tried to do with the with 624 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,120 all the CIP in general it took us about two years to lift all the information 625 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,960 out of audits and books and it starts up on the spreadsheets so we can start 626 01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:00,740 measuring monthly spend I don't think it you know in order to see if we're if we 627 01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:05,160 are actually needing what we're asking for but really to that point with the 628 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,800 capital project we had tens of millions of dollars you know somewhere between 629 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,960 thirty and fifty million dollars sitting in unallocated miscellaneous accounts 630 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:19,400 and we're continuing to raise rates so we basically stopped that approach until 631 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,760 if we can't get the projects out the door we don't need the money we're not 632 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,960 asking people to pay higher fees and so that's kind of how the process we're 633 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,680 going through and I think we can based on the questions we're getting we 634 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:34,280 probably just need to lay that out for you we're gonna be bringing back a lot 635 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,800 more granular spreadsheet that rusted requested last time so you can see how 636 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,360 we're looking at the capital side the expenses the revenues once we get 637 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,920 through July and August become a lot less volatile so I think we can meet in 638 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,640 the middle somewhere and give you all the information you want to see it's 639 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,560 probably gonna be just more of a check-in on those two budgets throughout 640 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:58,880 the summer okay well I sit on I sit on several boards of directors where we 641 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,400 actually we're actually we are the last decision-making process and yeah we ask 642 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,560 for a budget prediction and we're usually given them and they do fluctuate 643 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,240 millions of dollars each one of them so I don't see the harm in having a 644 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:18,720 discussion and especially with the capital expenditures we agree rates are 645 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,920 going to raise right you can raise rates you go lower rates you can try to be the 646 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:28,440 best taxpayer have no doubt right I think we're in agreement okay this is 647 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,720 David Gaines assistant city manager I just wanted to touch on the capital 648 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,880 expenses particularly you know as COVID this obviously was the different year 649 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,800 and in the schedule that Nick showed is reflective of COVID and the changes that 650 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,680 we had so if you recall in March and April and into the early part of the 651 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,400 summer we were we had at least paused or reconsidered some of our capital 652 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,240 projects just as we wanted to see what the true impacts on the revenue side 653 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,360 would be to the utility funds and also the bond market the bond market was 654 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,960 sporadic and all over the place so we didn't know what our ability to issue 655 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,360 debt would be so that was another reason that we pushed the process back on the 656 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,800 obviously the revenue side but also the capital side to try to understand what 657 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,960 our CFP would look like over the next couple years so just wanted to point 658 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,040 that out as we looked at the schedule this year it was largely impacted by the 659 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:24,440 pandemic but I would just add to David's point that's all true we also had a 660 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:29,960 council that immediately went in and turned off the you know the cutoffs and 661 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,800 we did not know how long that was going on and how deep that was going to cut 662 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,360 into all the fund balances that sort of thing so things ended up working 663 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,520 themselves out over the last 90 days but it's been a it's been a very different 664 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:50,320 and challenging budget year for us should we take maybe a five-minute break 665 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:57,000 and come back okay it'd be fine thank you 666 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:07,080 all right Susan you're on all right it's a 10 12 a.m. and we're back and we're 667 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:12,320 going into water budget presentation good morning PB members let me pull back 668 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:21,800 up the presentation to discuss water with you so as I said earlier the 669 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,760 operational discussion has been taken out of each utility presentation however 670 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,720 Frank Pugsley the water director is on the phone if you have questions regarding 671 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:34,040 any operational items you'll be happy to speak to them otherwise I'll walk you 672 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,600 through the proposed budget giving questions I'll be happy to answer within 673 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,120 the presentation the presentation objectives really quick we'll review the 674 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,800 financial assumptions the volume forecast the revenue and expense detail 675 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,240 the financial forecast the capital improvement plan and then review those 676 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,360 rate changes with you that I discussed or mentioned earlier so the financial 677 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,320 assumptions on the volume forecast we are proposing a 2% growth and forecasted 678 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,760 volume in the out years and the hunter coal ranch development is included 679 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,520 starting in fiscal year 2024 this was a question I believe mr. Baffert and asked 680 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,200 last meeting we have included a chart to help explain when the hunter coal ranch 681 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,320 development is planned to come into the water utility and how it's being 682 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,880 forecasted on the revenue side 2% growth it's consistent with the volume 683 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,360 forecast that we have out there we are continuing to utilize impact fee funding 684 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,880 to revenue any eligible projects that may be out there on the horizon to 685 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,280 minimize that debt issuance and really be mindful of our debt service in the 686 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,640 out years we are showing a little bit of revenue for the hunter coal ranch 687 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,160 development as I mentioned expenses of 3% growth in the forecasted years and 688 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,280 then for this utility as previously discussed the public utility board we 689 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,160 are recommending a 2% rate decrease we will be seeking PB's feedback today on 690 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,760 how to implement that decreased on a couple couple different options that 691 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:57,680 we've come up with and we'll discuss that in a few slides so this chart does 692 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,520 show the hunter coal ranch development and growth in the city and within the 693 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:06,120 next 20 to 30 year period I apologize for being a little bit 694 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:10,480 fuzzy to see if we can email this out to the meeting if necessary but the main 695 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,120 thing is I wanted to point out that you can see that hunter coal ranch 696 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:18,440 development and start coming on 2024 which is consistent with the forecast I 697 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,400 know it's hard to see but the hunter coal ranch development is actually this 698 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,840 green line or this green bar that you see I'm coming up here in the future 699 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,040 years a couple of things I'll point out this chart does a great job of 700 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,940 summarizing growth in the community and separating out by the development so the 701 01:07:33,940 --> 01:07:38,320 red line is actually just growth in the city's MMD and so as you can see you 702 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,840 going in the future years it does ramp up as you go out and the yellow line 703 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,360 happens to be the hunter ranch development and you can see it and then 704 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,600 the green one as I mentioned is that coal ranch development that you can see 705 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,560 in the future years if you see this this blue line it may be a little hard to see 706 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,680 on your screen and this is the master plan MMD line that you can see going in 707 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,780 the future years and then this dotted line is the treatment plant capacity so 708 01:08:04,780 --> 01:08:10,320 you can see when that capacity meets the growth in these future years so we are 709 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,040 planning to issue that debt for the plan expansion out here to meet this and be 710 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,560 well in advance of it for planning for that growth to come into the community 711 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,920 Nick this is Charlie I've got a question yes sir you were talking about MMD and 712 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:30,640 MDD on your slide yes can you tell us what those acronyms mean yeah let me 713 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,080 Frank Pugsley's on the phone let him let me come you can come on and answer that 714 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,040 question really quick sure mr. Parker Frank Pugsley water and wastewater 715 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:45,240 utilities director and I think yeah MDD and MMD get a little tongue-tied the red 716 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:52,440 bar is our MDD which is the max day demand for the city's water system and I 717 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:56,640 think because Hunter and Cole have an MMD it just doesn't roll off the tongue very 718 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,440 easily when we're talking about both of those in the same slide great and what 719 01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:07,880 is the night the municipal management district which is I think Todd might be 720 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,480 able to help us out a little bit further on that it's the taxing district that 721 01:09:13,480 --> 01:09:20,880 both Hunter and Cole ranch set up for to pay for the infrastructure on their 722 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,600 developments so we're saying we see a lot in the extraterritorial areas of the 723 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,160 municipal utility district this is just a municipal management district so the 724 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:34,520 City Council had to sign off on having that created at the legislature it 725 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:40,040 essentially is another taxing within the city and then two more questions I 726 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:46,120 assume MGD is million of gallons per day and when you say out years is that the 727 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,200 same as future years yes sir it is yeah future years out years is consistent one 728 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:59,840 in the same that's correct thanks question yes go ahead yeah I looking at 729 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,960 the the increase in the use of water that's a great great graph going out as 730 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:11,120 far as it does and I meant this question is probably for for mr. Pugsley when we 731 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:16,540 did the tour of the wastewater plant no we were told about there are some I 732 01:10:16,540 --> 01:10:22,840 believe called gray water lines that go to places like golf courses which is 733 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:28,840 recycled water and I wondered if there were any thoughts about increasing the 734 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:36,880 availability of of that type of water to meet obviously growing demands for 735 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:42,520 watering turf and parkland and that sort of thing especially in regard to the 736 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:49,200 what's going in the the amenities at Hunter Cole as they're presented now yes 737 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,600 sir the the reuse water system is what you're describing at the wastewater 738 01:10:53,600 --> 01:11:02,280 plant and we do have pipelines to the big country club just south of 35 the 739 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,480 names escaping me right now and also to the city of Garland's electric plant 740 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:11,360 adjacent to the Lewisville water plant and while we have ample supply and 741 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:17,280 capacity the customer demand is what would drive our growth there we don't 742 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:22,680 have large users who would make the most benefit out of that that reuse water 743 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:27,920 system right now okay thank you 744 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:43,040 it's okay to go on the presentation system okay so revenue detail last time 745 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,680 we were in front of you in August the third we provided you with a financial 746 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,320 forecast or performer that really rolled up the revenues so we wanted to do is 747 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,080 to provide you additional detail what makes up our 49 million dollars in 748 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:59,000 revenue that you can see here so some of the major categories water residential 749 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,360 revenues 20.5 million in the proposed budget it's currently what we're 750 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:08,160 forecasting commercial revenue is about 17.6 and then you can see some impact 751 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,360 the revenue that we are bringing in from that reserve is 6.6 million so that's 752 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,080 the major categories that make up the revenue number within the water utility 753 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:20,360 we do have that planned use of reserves of 3.9 million as I previously discussed 754 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:33,440 to you on August the third for total resources about 52.9 water expenses this 755 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:37,400 is by division so these are operational areas within the water utility so 756 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,280 starting at the top you can see water administration utility administration 757 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:46,040 this year we actually combined and separated this division so it was 758 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,340 divided between water administration and public outreach we separated out public 759 01:12:50,340 --> 01:12:54,360 outreach to increase transparency of this group then you can see going down 760 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:59,340 the page we have production distribution metering lab and miscellaneous and I do 761 01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:03,800 want to point out this miscellaneous category is your ROI your transfers are 762 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:08,440 we involving cost of service transfers and franchise fees so that number is 763 01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:11,920 fairly large but that is what makes up that twenty one point two million dollar 764 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:23,120 number distribution increases 58 percent between this year and next year on the 765 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:28,300 slide you're just at what's the reason for the 58 percent increase in 766 01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:33,200 distribution pull this down really quick mr. Bafford that is revenue funded 767 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,960 capital so what we do in each of those different operational areas if they have 768 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,480 a project coming up and we're revenue funding a portion of it we divide it out 769 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:43,440 by operational area so that increase that you're seeing is simply because 770 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:48,200 their revenue funding additional projects in their proposed budget okay 771 01:13:48,200 --> 01:14:01,840 yeah okay water expense a detail this is by category what we call family so you 772 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,440 can see personal services materials and supplies maintenance and repairs 773 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:09,800 insurance moving down the page some you can see those franchise fees I called 774 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,320 out all ago debt service so I made a note to this several times in the 775 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,800 presentation but as the fund continues to look at available funding revenue fund 776 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,520 projects and really utilize any impact fee funding that may be out there for 777 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,960 eligible projects you can see that debt service decreasing so I'll point this 778 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,880 out to you on the financial forecast also I mean you see a little bit 779 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,360 administrative transfers to the general fund so total expenses for the water 780 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:40,640 utility and this fifty two point nine million this is the ten year forecast 781 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,040 you've seen previously so I'll walk you back there really quick this does 782 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,320 include the two percent rate decrease I'd mentioned earlier this does have an 783 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,920 emphasis on revenue funding capital pertaining to the water plant I'll point 784 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,360 that out to you so the adopted 2020 budget you can see here in this column 785 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,920 this is the current fiscal year we have 2.9 million that we originally budgeted 786 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:04,160 to use in reserves for total resources of 51 million expenses are 51 million 787 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:09,120 also for a balanced budget utilizing those reserves so 0% for the rate 788 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,520 increase or decrease in the current budget end of your estimate looking at 789 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,880 the end of the year we do have some revenue impact associated with the 790 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,600 pandemic of six hundred and seventeen thousand we will continue to refine this 791 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,880 number and bring it back to you in December updated once we fully 792 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,080 understand the impact of the pandemic on the utilities so we are forecasting 793 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:33,960 about 2.8 million in reserve usage just about equal to the budget and of course 794 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,240 zero percent rate increase or decrease the proposed budget you can see in this 795 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:43,380 column we have revenue of 49 million 20,000 as we previously reviewed reserve 796 01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:48,760 usage of 3.9 for total resources of 52.9 the total expenses we saw on the 797 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:54,560 previous page of 52.9 million and this is that two percent rate decrease that I 798 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,160 had previously discussed with you moving down the page a little bit more as we 799 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,000 reviewed last time on the operating reserve for the water fund is currently 800 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:08,160 forecast to be 17.8 million ending fiscal year 2021 so next September we do 801 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,400 have a separate reserve for the impact fee of 9 million dollars I want to point 802 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,880 out as you go in the future years as I had mentioned above the emphasis on 803 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,120 revenue funding capital pertaining to the water plant this 9 million actually 804 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:23,640 goes away in 2025 we are using 9 million at the impact free reserve to revenue 805 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,360 fund the design of the Lake Ray Roberts plant expansion keep moving down the 806 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,560 page a little bit you can see the number of working days 122 and we have a little 807 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:38,040 bit of development plan lines impact the reserve is the 4 million and here's the 808 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,600 reserve targets this is what we're looking at every year we're looking at 809 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,840 each of the utilities to see the financial health of them so the minimum 810 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:49,500 for water 17.5 with the maximum of 26.5 what does that equate to in days or 811 01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:55,800 percentages so the minimum is 120 days or 33% the maximum is 180 days at 50% 812 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,960 one of the thing I do want to point out to the PB members this debt service line 813 01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:04,440 as we continue to utilize revenue funding and really look at those project 814 01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:08,600 fundings we've been able to stabilize this debt service going into the out 815 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:13,680 years when you see this increase from 27 to 28 from the 11.6 million to the 18 816 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:18,360 million this is for the issuance of the construction money for the Lake Ray 817 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:25,080 Roberts plant expansion this is the five-year capital plan for the water 818 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,280 fund and fiscal year 2021 the proposed budget we have planned debt issuance of 819 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:35,080 35.5 million as I said previously we will evaluate the capital plan throughout 820 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,280 the fiscal year and see if we actually need to issue 35.5 million before we 821 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,400 actually go out and issue that money we have revenue funding to 12.9 million for 822 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,040 the water utility impact fee funding this is revenue funding of 2.7 a little 823 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,240 bit aiding construction and some vehicle replacement for 275 thousand so for a 824 01:17:52,240 --> 01:18:02,040 total of 2021 CIP of 51.8 million in 2021 this is the detail of the five-year 825 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:07,080 capital plan I do want to point out this makes up 46.2 million of the 51.8 826 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,600 million you saw on the previous slide so some of the major projects that we have 827 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,760 planned for this upcoming fiscal year is the regulatory and performance upgrade 828 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:19,520 project of 18 million dollars currently we do have 14.6 million in debt plan for 829 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,600 this project and 3.4 million in revenue funding this project is important to the 830 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,760 water utility because this enabled us to push that plan expansion out into the 831 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,520 future years and minimize those rate increases that you saw last year we come 832 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,840 forward to you with the 2019-2020 budget annual field service replacements this is 833 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,240 something that is revenue funded in the water utility each year these are 834 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,840 replacements of infrastructure in existing streets we have a contracted 835 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,400 field service replacement of 3.9 we do plan to debt fund that one and the bond 836 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:53,880 election 2019 so the bond election that was passed this last year we have 3.2 837 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,240 million in there to support those projects the northwest transmission line 838 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:04,120 we have 3.35 million which is planned dead issuance text on I-35 and I-35 839 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,640 North three locations of 10.9 which is dead issuance and then Elm and Locus 840 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:14,640 phase 2 which is 4 million so these projects make up 46.2 million of the 51.8 841 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:21,120 million that's identifying the capital plan so proposed rate changes so as I 842 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,000 mentioned earlier we do have two options in front of the public utility board 843 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,960 today as we showed you last time we are recommending a 2% rate decrease so for 844 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,080 the average residential customer we do base that on a three-quarter inch meter 845 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:37,200 the current facility charge is $16 and the first tier and our water rates is 0 846 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:43,000 to 15,000 gallons this is currently $4 and 15 cents per thousand gallons option 847 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,400 one is based on our cost of service model this is the preferred option this 848 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:51,440 this is stash recommendation this was the option that the PV of City Council 849 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:55,880 both approved for wastewater and fiscal year 1819 when we did a 5% rate 850 01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:00,900 decrease the emphasis in this option minimize the decrease to the facility 851 01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:05,920 charge and decreases the volume charge more and option 2 it would actually this 852 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:10,120 is a 2% across the board actually decrease the facility charge more and 853 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,920 decrease the volume charge less so previous recommendations from our 854 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,800 consultants is to minimize the total changes to the facility charge so option 855 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,280 one does minimize that impact our facility charge it is important to note 856 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,120 that the decrease for residential customers under both of these options 857 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:32,720 would be the same which is $53 and 10 cents the commercial rate changes what 858 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,320 it would do for it so this is based on a two inch meter and we have per thousand 859 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,720 gallons are actually not grouped into tiers on the commercial side so the 860 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:44,280 current facility charge or two inch meter is 51 50 if PV gives us direction 861 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,920 to proceed with option one the facility charge go to 51 31 I'm under option to 862 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:54,040 go to $50 and 47 cents and the volume charge under option one to go to 434 863 01:20:54,040 --> 01:21:02,640 and then under option to go to 436 proposed rate changes these are our 864 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,720 contracted rates so as I discussed with you previously we are looking to update 865 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,920 these agreements based on signed agreements that we have with them so the 866 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,800 upper Trinity regional water district our wholesale raw water service this is 867 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,920 based on 85% of the Dallas wholesale rate so currently their rate is point seven 868 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:24,920 four zero one per thousand gallon based on 85% of the Dallas wholesale rate that 869 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,040 rate would go point seven five seven eight and the next one is the pass the 870 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,400 rate the Lake Chapman and it is currently point zero two seven zero we do 871 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,000 update this annually based on the CPI adjuster for the month of June so this 872 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:42,920 rate would go to point zero two seven five these are grass we show to the 873 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,560 public utility board and City Council every year as part of the budget 874 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:51,400 adoption process we do base the water rates on 9,200 gallons so you can't see 875 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:57,560 our current rate is in this yellow bar of 54 18 if PB approves a 2% rate 876 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,960 decrease or water customers that rate would go to $53 and 10 cents and then 877 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,720 usually what we do want to point this out the public utility board we do submit 878 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,400 these back to you later this year once all these cities adopt their budget and 879 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,200 they update their rates we'll provide that to you as an ACM update later in 880 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,920 the year this is the commercial water service using a two-inch meters our 881 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:24,480 current charge would be 233 69 with the proposed rate decrease and he should be 882 01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:29,560 excuse me back up our current rate is 268 31 with the proposed decrease it go 883 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:36,320 to 233 69 so these bars should be switched in position it doesn't yeah I 884 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,520 thought we'd caught that before the presentation I apologize for that next 885 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,880 step so we do plan to come back to you on September 14th to seek your approval 886 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,680 for the budget and rates we will submit the red line rate ordinances to you 887 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,400 during this meeting however we do plan to get them to you well in advance of 888 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:57,120 the September 14th date to allow you an adequate time to review them ask any 889 01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:02,240 questions that you may have on the 14th prior to adoption we do plan to have the 890 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,600 public hearing on the budget and tax rates on September 15th and we will be 891 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,880 looking for City Council's approval for the budget the tax rate the capital 892 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,680 improvement plan and the rates reach to the utilities on September 22nd then as 893 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,760 I mentioned earlier in December we will come back with that major budget rate 894 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:30,360 discussion pull this down for questions go ahead Billy sheet number 22 on your 895 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:39,800 display yes sir let me get it pulled up really quick there yes sir their number 896 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:46,960 different on our what's on the online so I got a kind of float oh okay the slide 897 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:52,800 order yeah we have this individual budgets and y'all one long one yes sir 898 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:57,600 correct and I pull it up on the other screen okay my question is on the net 899 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:05,580 income and you may have said something I missed it could you explain the net 900 01:24:05,580 --> 01:24:14,120 income why you show net income for future years and why not past years in 901 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:19,440 the in the forecast is that your question yes a lot of it has to do with 902 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:24,680 with revenue funded capital what is the debt service doing that year and then 903 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,440 what's the forecast I think your question so let me go up here really 904 01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:32,280 quick so and the proposed fiscal year 2021 we have planned use reserves of 905 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:38,320 3.9 million as you can see down here we have in 2022 we have a net income of 906 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:45,160 553,000 the majority of this is twofold one of it you can see up here this 907 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,720 impact fee revenue funding and debt service we're pulling in a little bit 908 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:53,560 more in fiscal year 2022 we've actually identified less projects to revenue fund 909 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:59,080 impact with impact fee dollars so this is coming in to offset the eligible debt 910 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,000 service of impact fee project so it actually benefits the fund I mean you 911 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:09,700 can see this number jumping from the 3.8 to 5.4 to 5.4 6.5 4.7 so that's why 912 01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:13,760 you're seeing that net income down here on the bottom line just to make a note 913 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,360 so with impact fee funding we can pull it in and use it for two different 914 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,220 purposes one purpose would be to revenue fund eligible projects that are not in 915 01:25:21,220 --> 01:25:25,400 the ground yet that's when you see this number coming in this 2.7 million the 916 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:30,440 second purpose would be to debt pay eligible debt service of a completed 917 01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:33,760 project that is already in the ground that's why you're seeing this 3.8 918 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,840 million so we try to revenue fund as much as possible but some years based on 919 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,560 the timing of projects and when they're eligible we we really can't you know do 920 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:47,560 2.7 million a year it decreases in the future years yeah I hear you I see we're 921 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:55,080 like I'm wouldn't through with that sheet oh I'm sorry Billy Billy I'm sorry 922 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,680 Billy in that in that final in that last year that's on there though the only 923 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:03,080 history is FY 19 you can see that revenues was forty four point three 924 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,720 million and expenses were forty seven so there was that you know three point six 925 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:12,000 million dollar of imbalance and that was actually a drawdown so that year on it 926 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,720 just in a revenue recurring revenue and current expenses it was it was a short 927 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:21,240 fall about three point six million okay all right yeah I was just it's just kind 928 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,520 of a it's a looks to me like we're just using that as a budget balancing item in 929 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:30,200 the meantime until we decide where it can go well there is a rate 930 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,440 stabilization component of that reserve and it's something that we're mindful of 931 01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:41,320 and that's why we have those reserve targets okay okay it just threw me off a 932 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:46,260 little bit and I wouldn't wouldn't clear as to how that worked yeah next sheet is 933 01:26:46,260 --> 01:26:52,800 23 yes sir your impact fee projections mm-hmm 934 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:59,040 seemed to go down in 2024 drastically and you'd mentioned or somebody had 935 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:04,080 mentioned on the utility projections that the the coal hunter coal ranch was 936 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:10,600 coming online that neck following year so I'm not clear why those impact fees 937 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,320 are down that much that's a great question mr. cheek so can I back up to 938 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:18,260 the previous slide answer your question again so this number you see the two 939 01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:21,640 point seven the one point one the one point two and the forty five thousand 940 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:26,120 this number is actually up here in this revenue funding line and that you can 941 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,800 see so two point seven one point one one point two and forty five thousand we are 942 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:35,160 budgeting six point six million and impact the revenue coming into this fund 943 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,600 every single year the number that you're seeing on this slide this is just the 944 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,920 revenue funding of eligible projects so this number does decrease in the future 945 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,320 years as we have less projects so we can actually revenue fund or currently 946 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,200 planned to be constructed that can be revenue funding but we reevaluate this 947 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,560 every year so this could possibly go up if projects pop up that are eligible for 948 01:27:54,560 --> 01:28:01,000 impact the funding so that 2025 couldn't go up exponentially absolutely based on 949 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,040 the timeline of projects and the ones that are eligible and identified in our 950 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:08,520 impact these study we use that document to guide us in this number and looking 951 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,760 at what projects are gonna go to construction to win and how much is 952 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:18,600 eligible for impact the funding okay very good thank you yeah we don't we 953 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,500 don't spend on that we don't currently anticipate any decrease in impact fee 954 01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:26,520 revenue it's currently consistent at six point six million per year in the water 955 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,440 utility right you got to collect it before you can spend it that's correct 956 01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:39,200 okay thank you all right any other questions I think they need direction on 957 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:45,920 the rate decrease for me I'd like to stay with the cost of service option one 958 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:57,160 I think that's the best route for the water fund I agree yes so we'll build 959 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,360 that into the red line rate ordinance that we bring back to you on September 960 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:06,360 14th it will be based on the cost of service rate decrease and those meter 961 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:13,120 decreases to those applied all the water rate classes are you talking about this 962 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,880 would be for residential and commercial inside customers there's two components 963 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,400 to their rate there's a facility charge and a volume charge that would imply to 964 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,280 all those rates so if you're inside the city didn't customer for residential or 965 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,760 commercial the 2% rate decrease would apply would apply to every rate class 966 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:34,200 for the residential yes inside city limits that is correct thank you yeah 967 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:39,040 and then I think in agreement yep and I think mr. cheek you had asked the 968 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,680 question about the hydrant fee last time we met that will be that will be called 969 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,960 out in the red line rate ordinance on September 14th but to give you the 970 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:50,480 current rate is currently $5.20 per thousand gallon and the facility 971 01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:56,200 charges $1,100 so the per thousand gallon rate would go down to five dollars 972 01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,800 and ten cents based on this 2% rate decrease okay yeah thank you you're 973 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:12,320 welcome let me skip over here all right so the next utility is wastewater the 974 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,000 presentation objective is the same as water will go over the financial 975 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,760 assumptions the revenue and expense detail the financial forecast the 976 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,400 capital plan and the proposed rate changes which were wastewater there is 977 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,600 no proposed rate changes currently being proposed so financial assumptions we do 978 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:31,160 have the 2% growth forecast in the out years we are continuing to utilize the 979 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,720 impact fee funding as we talked about in the water utility we do have the 980 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,720 hunter coal ranch rate revenue included as we looked at the chart in the water 981 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:42,720 utility and then as I said no rate increases for rate increases or 982 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:47,320 decreases for the wastewater customers this year this is revenue detail for the 983 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,120 wastewater utility some of the major categories as in water you can see 984 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:57,700 wastewater residential 11.5 million wastewater commercial 13.1 we have some 985 01:30:57,700 --> 01:31:01,840 drainage fees coming in for residential commercial about 5.1 million drainage is 986 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,560 a part of this utility and then we have impact the revenue coming in a 4.2 987 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:11,120 million this impact fee revenue is consistent in each of the 10 years in 988 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:16,280 the forecast but the revenue funding component of the expense varies year to 989 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:22,040 year based on project timing this is the expense detail by category so some of 990 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,400 the major categories you can see personal services here at the top of 8.4 991 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:30,480 million capital outlays that revenue funding of projects is 6.5 and then our 992 01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:34,720 debt service is 7 million so these expenses and all these categories add up 993 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:42,200 to 36.9 million in expenses expense by division same thing as in water we wanted 994 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,240 to show you the operational areas within wastewater so we have administration 995 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,160 reclamation collections filled service beneficial reuse the laboratory 996 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,040 industrial pretreatment drainage watershed protection we have some 997 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,440 miscellaneous as a reminder this includes return on investment franchise 998 01:31:56,440 --> 01:32:01,920 fees and our cost of service transfers the drain is miscellaneous of 720,000 999 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:07,760 which houses the drainage debt service and then as a reminder I think I 1000 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,800 mentioned this in the water presentation but wastewater administration this year 1001 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,320 does show to be going away this has actually been combined with water 1002 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:18,240 administration so you'd see an increase in the transfer from wastewater to water 1003 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:23,520 to fund their portion of administration but staff felt it was necessary to 1004 01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:28,720 combine these two groups so it's in your forecast for the wastewater utility 1005 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:33,120 starting just like water you can see the adopted 2020 budget here in this column 1006 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,680 we did have planned use of reserves of 1.6 million so we had zero rate 1007 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,800 increases or decreases in the current proposed budget into your estimate we 1008 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:46,640 are planning to come in fairly close to that adopted budget about 1.9 million in 1009 01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,480 revenue usage and you can see a little bit of COVID impact up here for 389,000 1010 01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:54,800 as I said about the water utility we'll refine this number and come back to the 1011 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,760 public utility board in December once we fully understand the impact of the 1012 01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:04,080 pandemic to the utilities and then the proposed budget is in this column so we 1013 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,000 have thirty seven point one million in total revenue for the wastewater utility 1014 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,560 you can see expenses of thirty six point nine so for net income about two 1015 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:16,960 hundred ninety two thousand was zero rate changes so zero rate increases or 1016 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,440 decreases for wastewater customers moving down the page a little bit you 1017 01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:24,600 can see operating and cap or the operating reserve of thirteen point four 1018 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:29,640 million it is within the reserve requirement of ten point three to fourteen 1019 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:33,240 point four the reserve requirement is a little bit different for wastewater and 1020 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,760 it's a hundred days for the minimum and a hundred forty days for the maximum so 1021 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,760 twenty eight percent on the minimum side and thirty nine percent on the maximum 1022 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:44,440 so we are well within that requirement going down to the future years you can 1023 01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:48,280 see it does start to dip down a little bit slightly drop in below in fiscal 1024 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:52,880 year 2026 but we are currently not showing rate increases or decreases in 1025 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:58,680 the utility I think that's the major things on this slide I wanted to show 1026 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,560 you today come back to it if you may has any questions the drainage five-year 1027 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,920 forecast this is a component of the forecast you use to solve so there are two 1028 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:12,120 different major revenue sources for the drainage utility in 2021 you can see 1029 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,200 residential drainage fees equates to about one point nine million revenue 1030 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:20,320 non-residential which is the same thing as commercial counselor three point one 1031 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:25,360 so for a total of five point five here the major expense categories for the 1032 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,800 drainage utility personal services at one point nine capital outlay is really 1033 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,600 revenue funding those drainage projects of one point eight million so total 1034 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,880 expenses of five point five we do set one million dollars aside for a drainage 1035 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,040 reserve this is a component of the wastewater reserve but we do show it 1036 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:46,360 separately for transparency this is the five-year capital plan for the wastewater 1037 01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:51,920 utility so similar to water we do have a debt issuance plan for wastewater for 1038 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:55,760 wastewater is thirty two point eight million as I said previously in water we 1039 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,120 will continue to evaluate projects and the amount of funding available for 1040 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,760 issuing this debt for the utility and determine the exact amount we need to 1041 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,960 issue in the future years revenue funding you can see five point three 1042 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,480 million this is coming from the operating fund impact fee funding of 1043 01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:14,320 five hundred thousand this is impact fee funding eligible projects as we 1044 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,480 discussed in water a little bit of aid in construction and some vehicle 1045 01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:21,600 replacement of one point two million so total CIP for the wastewater utility of 1046 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:27,400 forty million dollars in fiscal year 2021 so major projects for the 1047 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,760 wastewater utility this does make up twenty nine point nine million of the 1048 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,520 forty million dollars in proposed projects so going down the list here you 1049 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,840 can see the Clear Creek Basin pump station of three million dollars we are 1050 01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,740 currently planning to debt fund this project the solids handling improvements 1051 01:35:41,740 --> 01:35:44,560 of eight point three million we're planning to debt fund that project also 1052 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,200 we do budget for the annual field service replacement similar to water 1053 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:52,560 this is a revenue funded project which is two point six million and then we do 1054 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,520 have some contracted field service replacement which is consistent with 1055 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,680 water we are issuing this a debt so two point six million in debt issuance the 1056 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,600 bond election to support the recently approved bond package we do have two 1057 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,840 point nine million in debt issuance for that and then the Hickory Creek 1058 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,940 interceptor three three point five the Hickory Creek interceptor lining of two 1059 01:36:10,940 --> 01:36:15,040 point three and the Elm Street sewer line replacement phase two two point nine 1060 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,720 then we got some textile relocation similar to water of one point eight 1061 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,820 million so total of twenty nine point nine million but these are the major 1062 01:36:21,820 --> 01:36:27,240 projects included in the capital plan for next year this is the residential 1063 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:31,560 wastewater rate comparison as a reminder we did decrease this recently I think it 1064 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:36,640 was in fiscal year 18 19 from 6,000 gallons to 5,400 and based on the 1065 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:40,360 average water usage of residential customers so you can see the wastewater 1066 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:48,160 rate would be 26 23 based on 5,400 gallons commercial we based it on 50 1067 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:54,880 thousand gallons so you see the current fee would be 284 25 and then commercial 1068 01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:00,200 we also show you a 200,000 gallon comparison that rate would be 707 86 and 1069 01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:04,080 as previously said as these cities adopt their budget we will provide you a memo 1070 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,640 later this year with updated rate charts that provide updated rates for each of 1071 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,800 the cities the next steps we talked about previously we will get that 1072 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,420 redline ordinance to you well in advance of the September 14th meeting to 1073 01:37:15,420 --> 01:37:20,040 allow for questions and then we can address those on September 14th and then 1074 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,440 going through you can see budget adoption on September 22nd for the City 1075 01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:33,120 Council includes wastewater all right questions 1076 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:43,040 sorry I meant to ask this initial onset of the utility questions and maybe 1077 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:48,920 they're in here I can't find them do we have the impact fees as a price per each 1078 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:54,640 somewhere in there they're not provided in the material in your backup they will 1079 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:59,640 be part of the rate ornance when it comes forward to you we can provide that 1080 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:03,000 information to you on September 14th if you'd like to see that Billy we 1081 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:07,760 absolutely can okay I can wait till then on that one you bet I'm just this thank 1082 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:17,440 you anybody else Charlie go ahead one quick comment Nick on the schedules I 1083 01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:23,920 see from this department the word for employment employee is often used 1084 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:30,760 personal services I wonder if we might consider calling that either personnel or 1085 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:37,720 payroll or something to me person personal services sounds like a pedicure 1086 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:42,320 or something yeah we have to jump you see the size of it and I'm pretty sure 1087 01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:48,280 it's they're getting expensive sorry they're getting very expensive these 1088 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:54,080 days too our previous finance director brought that to my attention years ago 1089 01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:59,160 but we are in the process of updating that the budget books if you go 1090 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,000 historically and did have that differences between the two so we're 1091 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,240 trying to convert over to personnel like you're talking about we just haven't got 1092 01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:12,840 ice yeah so we're working on it we will get there mr. Parker thanks anyone else 1093 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:24,000 all right then solid waste okay so presentation objectives and similar to 1094 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,840 the other utilities will review the financial assumptions the revenue 1095 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:31,040 expense detail the financial forecast the capital improvement plan the proposed 1096 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,360 rate changes and address any questions that you may have regarding solid waste 1097 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,400 so revenue forecast consistent with the rest of the utility is a 2% growth 1098 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:43,520 forecast in the out years we are the anticipated wholesale agreements are 1099 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:48,000 currently projected to end in fiscal year 2023 pending re-approval by the 1100 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,320 public utility board and City Council we did take the conservative approach and 1101 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:55,200 actually back them out of the forecast the expense detail we have a 2% growth 1102 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,840 forecast in the out years and sale construction was moved from fiscal year 1103 01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,640 22 to 21 I'll point that out to you on the financial forecast shortly and it's 1104 01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:07,040 gonna be revenue funded and then rates we are proposing a 5% residential rate 1105 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:11,360 decrease this equates to a $1 decrease per month for the average residential 1106 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,280 customer with a standard cart we are looking to make minimum updates the 1107 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:19,280 contracted rates for example the wholesale agreements and then minimum 1108 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:24,920 updates to the valet rate commercial rate and gate disposal rate the solid 1109 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,880 waste revenue detail similar for the utilities you can see the detail 1110 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:34,440 expanded here in this page so the major categories residential revenue of 5.1 1111 01:40:34,440 --> 01:40:39,320 million residential recycling revenue of 4.8 and you can see some front load and 1112 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:43,480 side load revenue so your commercial business revenue of 9.4 roll off open 1113 01:40:43,480 --> 01:40:49,960 top revenue of 7.2 landfill gate disposal rate revenue which is 4.8 you 1114 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,800 can see that increasing from 3.2 to 4.8 as you continue to see the volume in the 1115 01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:59,320 landfill increase and then you can see the landfill wholesale revenue increasing 1116 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,440 from the 2.5 to the 5.6 based on those agreements that were approved last year 1117 01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:09,720 and then total revenue of 39.8 we do have some reserve usage in the solid 1118 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:17,800 waste fund of 4.3 for total resources of 44.1 this is expense detail by 1119 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,640 operational area similar to water and wastewater so you can see solid waste 1120 01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,840 administration of 3.2 going down the page some of the bigger 1121 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:29,200 operational areas residential collections of 5.9 commercial collections 1122 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:35,840 of 4.8 solid waste disposal of 11.5 and then miscellaneous of 16.6 and as a 1123 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,560 reminder this is return on investment franchise fees and those cost of service 1124 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:44,640 transfers it's always expense detail by category you can see the personnel 1125 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:51,480 expenses 10.8 some of the major other categories franchise fees of 1.9 1126 01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:57,440 operations of 6.8 the debt service is 6.9 which steadily decreases you can see 1127 01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:03,360 it going from 18 19 to 18 8.9 million 8.4 decreasing to 6.9 is the fund 1128 01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:07,120 continued continues to focus on revenue funding of projects and minimize the 1129 01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,640 debt issuance the cost of service transfer as I mentioned earlier you can 1130 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:15,400 see a 1.8 million other cost of service transfers which would be tech services 1131 01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:20,480 human resources and other ones would be 3.5 and your capital outlay is 10.7 1132 01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:26,160 which does include that cell development construction five-year forecast with a 1133 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,640 solid waste fund you can see the adopted budget here in this column we did have 1134 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:34,720 an adopted budget with use of reserves of three million dollars total expenses 1135 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:39,560 of 38.4 moving in to the end of your estimate we do have a COVID revenue 1136 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:43,640 impact number of 280,000 we'll bring this back to you in December with a refined 1137 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:50,080 number total revenue of 38.1 million and total expenses of 36.6 so we are 1138 01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,840 showing a net profit of 1.4 million currently forecasted in the end of year 1139 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:58,800 for 2020 the proposed 2021 budget is here in this dotted line you can see the 1140 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,720 reserve usage I mentioned to you on the previous slide of 4.3 million so total 1141 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:09,680 resources of 44.1 total expenses of 44.1 moving down the page and the operating 1142 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:14,800 reserve is 8.3 million this is in the reserve targets for the solid waste fund 1143 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:19,880 which is 6.2 million to 7.9 and the percentages are different for solid 1144 01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:25,480 waste and air for water wastewater so 51 days being the minimum or 14% 65 days 1145 01:43:25,480 --> 01:43:30,640 or 18% being the maximum so we are within that reserve target in in the 1146 01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,960 current proposed budget as you go in the future years we do slightly drop below 1147 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:41,680 in 2025 you can see it slightly dropping below 5.635 to 5.673 one of the 1148 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,000 thing I want to point out this rate decrease is possible as I said you know 1149 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,480 with the funds continued emphasis on revenue funding and decreasing the 1150 01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:52,560 amount of debt issuance and the solid waste fund you can see the debt service 1151 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:57,240 decreasing from 8.9 million to 6.9 and it does continue to decrease in the 1152 01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,720 future years you can actually see it getting down to 3.9 million in the 1153 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:05,000 future so the fund is doing a great job at revenue funding projects and 1154 01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,800 minimizing debt issuances this is something I reviewed with you on August 1155 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,640 the 3rd this is the five-year capital plan for the solid waste fund we do have 1156 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:16,200 one plan debt issuance of three million dollars this is for a fleet annexed 1157 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,720 building at the solid waste facility we do have six point two five million in 1158 01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,480 revenue funding this is for that next cell development and design construction 1159 01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:28,240 of that cell vehicle replacement the fund is looking to revenue fund the 1160 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,840 vehicles this upcoming fiscal year of 3.3 million so the total capital plan of 1161 01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:40,880 12.6 million detailed five-year capital plan so each project detailed out you can 1162 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:46,200 see that landfill cell for construction of 4.9 4.5 million which is revenue 1163 01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:51,240 funding landfill cell construction for quality assurance of 450,000 for revenue 1164 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,840 funding landfill equipment of 1.3 million which is gonna be revenue 1165 01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,960 funding you can see that fleet building construction I had mentioned about debt 1166 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,680 issuance of three million dollars and then you can see the commercial group by 1167 01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,960 different operational areas so you can see commercial equipment from one 1168 01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:09,360 million thirty thousand some HCC equipment which is the home chemical 1169 01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:14,000 collection of sixty thousand residential equipment of two point oh five two 1170 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,880 million and then landfill equipment of two hundred fifteen thousand so twelve 1171 01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:23,240 point six total on capital plan these are the proposed rate changes for the 1172 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,520 solid waste funds as we discussed previously we are looking to decrease 1173 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,080 the valet shared service for commercial businesses that are currently in the 1174 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:34,560 tier two structure currently that rate is 138 28 we are looking to reduce it to 1175 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:40,080 74 16 based on our cost of service model this is the recommended rate yard waste 1176 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,440 collection for commercial businesses this is currently not being offered to 1177 01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:46,800 be concerned consistent with residential we are looking to implement this at 1178 01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:52,360 seventy five dollars per hour built on 15 minute increments and the standard 1179 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:58,120 cart rate would go from 21 51 to 20 dollars and 51 cents with that 5% or 1 1180 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:02,160 dollar decrease or residential customers as we talked about the large cart 1181 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:07,720 customers would go from 26 26 to 2504 which equates to about a dollar 22 so if 1182 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,860 you had a large cart you'd actually see a little bit more of a decrease an 1183 01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:16,800 additional large cart would go from 1738 to 1657 and this is based on the cost 1184 01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,360 of service and we would be looking to decrease that point eight one cents 1185 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,160 landfill gate disposal rate for residential and businesses that are 1186 01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:28,600 non-city of Denton we are looking to increase this from 46 a ton to 48 we do 1187 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,560 continue to see that increased volume coming into the landfill and then the 1188 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:37,360 sludge disposal rate dewatered landfill looking to increase them 46 to 50 so an 1189 01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:41,320 increase of four dollars one other thing I want to point out as I did last time 1190 01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,600 with the Public Utility Board we are looking to increase the wholesale 1191 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:49,280 agreements by 2.3% which is a CPI rate adjuster identified in the contracts for 1192 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:57,080 those agreements so this does equate for $400,000 in additional revenue in 2021 so 1193 01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,880 residential rate comparison you can see our current rate here in this column 1194 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:06,680 since the 2151 with that one dollar decrease to be $20 and 51 cents we will 1195 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,640 update these rates after budget adoption by these other cities and bring that 1196 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:14,480 back to you in a memo with the rest of the utilities and then the future dates 1197 01:47:14,480 --> 01:47:17,800 I mean September 14th as we talked about the red line rate ordinance with these 1198 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:21,080 rate changes will come forward to you for your approval then we'll send those 1199 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,680 to you well in advance and then budget adoption is currently scheduled for 1200 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:46,960 September 22nd alright could you go back to slide 49 please yes okay what 1201 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:59,600 accounts for the drop in commercial recycling revenue a lot of this is based 1202 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:05,680 on what the market is doing mr. self so from 1.7 to 870,000 it would be what 1203 01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:10,240 we're getting paid for those recycling commodities and then also the city did 1204 01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:15,400 previously in prior years recycle some metal material but I believe Brian 1205 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:24,200 burner is on the phone too and he can speak to this a little bit more that is 1206 01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:28,960 that is correct we are there are several things that go into the residential 1207 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:34,880 with the excuse me the commercial recycling drop part of that has to do 1208 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:43,880 with just the general value but we also had I believe in the original rate 1209 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:49,200 structure we had it and we had an element in there for disposal when we 1210 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:54,760 went in and redid the rates last year we removed that so I took away a little bit 1211 01:48:54,760 --> 01:49:00,800 of an overcharge that was occurring in previous years we see that right now all 1212 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:06,760 they're paying for is the collection and the sale not the disposal piece of that 1213 01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:16,760 okay thank you could you go to go to slide 51 please just a question what what 1214 01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:23,720 what are the what is what does landfill closure mean what is that encompass so 1215 01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:29,280 this is a dedicated reserve the city has set up to close the landfill facility 1216 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,600 when that date will come in the future we do transfer this money from the 1217 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:37,920 operating reserve to that dedicated reserve each year what we've seen with 1218 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,840 the with the landfill recently bought some new compactors they've increased 1219 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:46,640 their capacity of compaction at the landfill so looking at that cost of 1220 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:51,840 service model that closure model and it tells us if we're fully funded or not it 1221 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:55,040 actually does say we're fully funded this fiscal year so we're not looking to 1222 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:59,160 make that transfer however we are continuing that transfer in the future 1223 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,520 years it will not be removed from the budget but we did have a one-time 1224 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:07,720 decrease or one time not transferring that money this fiscal year so hopefully 1225 01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,920 the answer is your question this is a transfer to a dedicated reserve to close 1226 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:16,800 that facility when the date comes in the future okay thank you and one more I know 1227 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:23,640 that we have the solid waste strategic management plan on the horizon and are 1228 01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:30,360 these budget figures given to the consultant who will be doing this plan 1229 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:37,440 and with a with the idea of make a plan that the budget that is friendly to our 1230 01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:44,040 budget or is this budget subject to change based upon what based upon the 1231 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:50,360 findings of the strategic plan I'm gonna ask Brian to speak to the strategic plan 1232 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:56,280 he is the one that is the city's liaison liaison for that yeah Brian 1233 01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:02,800 burner director of solid waste and again this is a strategy this is not a plan so 1234 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:07,200 this is what we have to consider before we go back into making the plan you are 1235 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:12,000 correct that part of this the development of the strategy will be 1236 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:17,560 reviewing previous both operational and fiscal constraints and as and as we move 1237 01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:23,400 forward using those to determine exactly you know what impacts are going into the 1238 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:27,600 system so we can make proper decisions moving forward in a plan to how we're 1239 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:32,880 going to implement you know increase diversion control cost minimize 1240 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:38,840 environmental impact so that will be part of the the evaluation as we're 1241 01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:43,320 looking forward here and in the next budget year well you will probably see 1242 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:50,440 the impacts of that evaluation now this the the the approval this strategy should 1243 01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:57,680 be on your I believe the September 14th or the meeting following so we'll have 1244 01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:03,040 an opportunity to discuss that a little more in depth thank you very much 1245 01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:10,560 you're welcome question question on the list of capital projects for this there 1246 01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:15,920 was something called a fleet building construction can you explain what that 1247 01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:22,320 is is that a new structure for working on equipment is it an addition to an 1248 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:27,280 existing one or just what is that this would be for a new facility at the 1249 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:31,720 solid waste site for working on heavy-duty equipment out there so it is 1250 01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:36,120 not expansion of an existing facility being new construction all right thank 1251 01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:46,320 you other questions just want to thank solid waste for the way they take care 1252 01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:52,640 of people who need assistance with their carts and their trash and the recycling 1253 01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:57,240 I for one thank you very much I don't have to drive across town every Monday 1254 01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:03,640 anymore and it is it is great that and I think the ratepayers are happy to pay 1255 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:07,240 that over is that it costs to help out people who need assistance and thank you 1256 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:17,440 for doing it it's a nice service yeah thank you all right then the electric 1257 01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:21,400 utility is next and this is a two-part presentation so the first part of the 1258 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,680 presentation I'll walk through the budget information with you then Terry 1259 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:28,920 Nolte will come up and present the deck financial pro forma and some supporting 1260 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:42,080 slides so presentation objectives similar to the utilities probably need 1261 01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,960 to go through these again with you again but load forecast we'll look at really 1262 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:50,680 quick financial forecast the capital improvement plan the CIP questions that 1263 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:54,280 you have at the end we're currently not proposing rate changes for the electric 1264 01:53:54,280 --> 01:54:00,360 utility this fiscal year so financial assumptions the average load growth of 1265 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:05,680 3.2 percent over the first five years is included in the forecast we have 1266 01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,800 decreased the t-cost allowed rate of return which is included in other 1267 01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:13,000 revenue on the pro forma and I'll show that to you so it continues at twenty 1268 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:17,960 eight point zero four percent through fiscal year 2022 it does decrease to 16 1269 01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:22,680 percent in fiscal year 2023 and I'll point that out to you on the pro forma 1270 01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:28,560 expenses the ROI to the city to the general fund from electric is currently 1271 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,160 at six percent in the proposed budget this was a direction the City Council 1272 01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:36,480 and this does go through the end of fiscal year 2022 and then it does return 1273 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:40,920 to 3.5 percent in fiscal year 2023 and the current performance that you're 1274 01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,600 looking at does not anticipate any sale that Gibbons Creek facility however we do 1275 01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:48,280 have 21 million dollars in decommissioning expenses accounted for in 1276 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:52,720 the pro forma and then we have 1.7 million per year in payroll reduction 1277 01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:57,920 costs versus the 2020 budget out of those due to the program that was just 1278 01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,920 recently completed and so on this table here you can see the end of your estimate 1279 01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:10,000 2019 you can see in this green line cross 2020 you can see residential seven 1280 01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:14,400 point seven percent commercial is six point four percent and industrial four 1281 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:19,000 point eight percent and then other three point three so this is the load forecast 1282 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,800 for the electric fund and what supports the revenues in the current proposed 1283 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:28,600 budget the electric revenue detail so you can see the non-deck base rate 1284 01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:32,640 revenue of eighty eight point eight million you can see the ECA revenues I 1285 01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:36,280 think mr. cheek had mentioned earlier fifty three point four million you can 1286 01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,960 see the non-operating revenues of sixty four million and you can see some 1287 01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:44,400 interest income of six hundred and fifty thousand so total revenue non-deck related 1288 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,960 is two hundred and six point eight million and then you can see the deck 1289 01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,640 room revenues being put in there of twenty four point five bringing the 1290 01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:55,720 total revenues to two hundred and thirty one point four use reserves you know 1291 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,920 having playing use reserves in the proposed budget so you can see total 1292 01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:04,620 resources are equal to the revenue electric expenses by divisions these are 1293 01:56:04,620 --> 01:56:07,720 operational areas similar to the utilities we wanted to show these to you 1294 01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:12,280 you can see administration was sixty seven point two power supply 1295 01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:15,440 administration this upcoming fiscal year will be combined with electric 1296 01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:19,600 administration so it does go to zero energy management of four point three 1297 01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:23,240 some of the major other operational categories you can see is wholesale 1298 01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:27,000 power expense this is in a separate division we do keep this separate for 1299 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:31,560 purchase power ninety two point two million the Denton Energy Center of thirty 1300 01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,920 three point four million and then moving down the page a little bit you can see 1301 01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:38,560 operation and maintenance of six million and then some of the other ones 1302 01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:43,320 engineering a three point nine so total expenses of two thirty one point one 1303 01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:50,600 million expenses by detail so for my category you can see dropping down the 1304 01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:54,000 page here you can see the personnel expenses of twenty point eight million 1305 01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:58,120 some of the other major categories this is that return on investment that I 1306 01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:02,320 mentioned you can see it going from six point six million in the current adopted 1307 01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:06,100 budget to eight point eight this does reflect the increase this current 1308 01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:08,880 fiscal year so we are planning to come in over budget for the return on 1309 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:12,720 investment and then this is the true six percent for the entire fiscal year of 1310 01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:17,320 eleven point nine million franchise fees and you can see nine point nine million 1311 01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:22,360 for franchise fees operations is seven point three and then the DME non-debt 1312 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:26,680 other debt is thirty point five and then we have separated out the deck debt for 1313 01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,240 transparency is seventeen point two taking all these different expense 1314 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,360 categories we do come up with two hundred thirty one point one million in 1315 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:39,320 expenses it's the five-year forecast electric fund you can see there is no 1316 01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:43,240 rate increases we do have that reduced t-cost revenue that I pointed out a 1317 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:47,680 couple slides ago so the adopted 2020 budget is here in this column we did 1318 01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,880 have an adopted budget with planned use of reserves of six point nine million for 1319 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,840 total resources of two hundred and twenty nine point two expenses are two 1320 01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:00,180 hundred and twenty nine point two with those zero rate increases or decreases in 1321 01:58:00,180 --> 01:58:05,320 2020 and the budget included a forty eight point seven million dollar ending 1322 01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:08,880 operating reserve interviewer estimate we are planning to come in a little bit 1323 01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,920 better about three point four million so total resources of two hundred and 1324 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:17,400 twenty nine point five that was zero rate increases or decreases the proposed 1325 01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:21,200 budget is twenty twenty one is here in this dotted line you can see total 1326 01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:24,880 revenue is equal to total resources of two hundred and thirty one point four 1327 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:30,600 total expenses are two thirty one point one so for a net income of just about three hundred thousand so a 1328 01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:34,640 balanced budget and then the zero zero rate increases for the upcoming fiscal 1329 01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:38,640 year ending operating reserve is seventy three point five million in the electric 1330 01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,920 fund and the reserve requirements of this fund are different than the other 1331 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:46,420 utilities minimum of sixty days or sixteen percent the maximum or seventy 1332 01:58:46,420 --> 01:58:50,120 five days or twenty one percent so that minimum amount being thirty six point 1333 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:55,120 nine million that maximum amount being forty eight point five going into the 1334 01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,400 future years what I want to point out is the reserve does stay above the minimum 1335 01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:02,120 reserve requirement in each of the five years getting to forty five point two 1336 01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:07,220 million in the future years jumping back up the page really quick what I wanted 1337 01:59:07,220 --> 01:59:10,560 to point out you see this non-rate revenue this is the decrease that you 1338 01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:14,480 see from sixty four point six million in the proposed twenty twenty one budget to 1339 01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:18,020 the forty eight point two million you see in twenty twenty three this is the 1340 01:59:18,020 --> 01:59:21,840 decrypt decrease in that t-cost rate of return that we discussed a couple slides 1341 01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:26,480 ago one of the important thing I want the PB to see is the return on investment 1342 01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:30,040 or franchise fees you can see in the proposed budget or twenty one point eight 1343 01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:33,720 million you can see that decrease back down to three point five percent for 1344 01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:37,580 the ROI to the general fund going back down to sixteen point three in fiscal 1345 01:59:37,580 --> 01:59:43,920 year twenty twenty three it's a five-year capital plan for the electric fund so in 1346 01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,840 twenty twenty one the proposed budget we have a total of thirty two point two 1347 01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:51,800 million in distribution projects transmission which just does include the 1348 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:55,880 Hickory Creek substation facility of twenty point eight million so thirty two 1349 01:59:55,880 --> 02:00:01,240 point eight million total grand total would be sixty five million dollars in 1350 02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:04,920 projects similar to the other utilities we will look at this utility throughout 1351 02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,480 the year look at available funding see what projects are scheduled to go to 1352 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:12,320 construction before issuing this debt amount aid in construction nine hundred 1353 02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:17,400 sixty five thousand CEO issuance sixty one point five with a little bit of 1354 02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,800 revenue funding of two point six million is how that sixty five million 1355 02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:27,720 breaks down five-year capital plan this is on multiple slides I will go through 1356 02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,440 here and hit a couple of the major projects if you have any questions we 1357 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:32,920 can address them afterwards and Terry's here to help me walk us through these 1358 02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:38,600 also so the CI CIS enterprise system of one point five million is currently 1359 02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:42,840 included in the capital plan moving down the page to point out some other large 1360 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:46,880 items you can see transformers and equipment of one point nine feeders and 1361 02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,400 extension and improvements of nine million new residential and commercial 1362 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:53,720 development of three million and overhead to underground conversions of 1363 02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:57,400 two million so this page makes up a total of eighteen point two million in 1364 02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:05,040 projects the next page you can see the Hickory Creek substation facility that I 1365 02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:08,360 mentioned on the previous couple slides of seventeen point four million is 1366 02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:12,040 accounted for in this budget and there are some transmission lines associated 1367 02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:15,880 that substation you can see a three point seven million and then you can see 1368 02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:20,840 the Eagle transmission line three point nine million Cooper Creek and Brinker 1369 02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:28,440 transmission line of one point seven million is also in the budget and Hickory 1370 02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:31,320 Creek substation facility of four point eight million you can see that here 1371 02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:35,640 under distribution city streetlight program this is something I pointed out 1372 02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:38,560 to the public utility board previously and Tony has discussed the public 1373 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,160 utility board and City Council in the past we do have three million dollars 1374 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:46,000 accounted for in each year the five-year CIP for street lighting so you will see 1375 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:51,040 that three million in each of the years single-fade meter maintenance and growth 1376 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:59,040 of 435,000 so for a total of 65 million thirty three thousand one fifty four 1377 02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:02,600 proposed electric rate changes so there are no increases or decrease for 1378 02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:06,020 residential customers but we are proposing to make minimum updates to the 1379 02:02:06,020 --> 02:02:09,840 rate ordinance this fiscal year the first rate we're looking to discontinue 1380 02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:13,640 is the residential renewable energy services writer also referred to as RG 1381 02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:17,760 all customers currently receive a hundred percent renewable energy so we 1382 02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:21,840 are looking to discontinue this rate the weekend service also referred to as WS 1383 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,600 we are looking to discontinue this a recent audit did reveal that the weekend 1384 02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:29,240 customers were hitting their monthly demand outside of the designated hours 1385 02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:33,560 the downtown decorative lighting DDL the rate is no longer applicable to the 1386 02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:37,680 downtown customers and then the dark fiber we're looking to discontinue this 1387 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:42,640 and then the banner install fee we are looking to discontinue and then that fee 1388 02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:46,440 was transferred to building safety commercial renewable energy services 1389 02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:50,160 writers similar to the RG rate all customers do receive a hundred percent 1390 02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:54,040 renewable energy so we are looking to discontinue this independent wholesale 1391 02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:59,960 generator IWG we are looking to discontinue this rate also so the RG by 1392 02:02:59,960 --> 02:03:03,080 discontinuing this rate there are 186 residential customers that would be 1393 02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:11,320 impacted with an annual savings of forty seven dollars and thirty six cents so 1394 02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:14,880 residential rate comparison for electric utility you can see the city of Denton 1395 02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:19,080 in the middle on this green bar so over the average customer based on 1200 1396 02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:24,400 kilowatt hours a month would be 124 80 and we'll bring this back to the public 1397 02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:30,000 utility board once the rest of these cities adopt their 2021 budget and then 1398 02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,480 this is a summary slide of the proposed rate decreases for all the utilities 1399 02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,720 together so as I'd said electric there are no proposed rate changes for the 1400 02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:40,800 average residential customer water based on 9200 gallons the customer could 1401 02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:44,480 expect a one dollar and eight cents decrease which equates to a 2% rate 1402 02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:48,360 decrease for water customers wastewater there is no rate decrease or increase 1403 02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:52,200 proposed for residential and then solid waste for the standard car customer they 1404 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:58,800 would see that one dollar decrease which equates to five percent future dates so 1405 02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:02,200 we will bring back the red line rate ordinance to you on September 14th we 1406 02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:06,920 will submit that to you prior to that to allow you adequate time to review it and 1407 02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:11,760 ask any questions on September 14th before approval and then we will have 1408 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:15,320 our public hearing on September 15th City Council budget adoption is scheduled 1409 02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:19,400 for September 22nd and then we'll be circling back with you in December with 1410 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:24,680 that mid-year budget rate discussion and then that gets us to the deck Susan if 1411 02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:28,080 it's okay I'll open if you're okay with opening up now before Terry takes over 1412 02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:32,880 for my part of the presentation that'd be great I have three questions but 1413 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:43,160 before I go anybody else have questions go ahead Billy and then you Ed so on the 1414 02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:52,520 increase in ROI for DME how is the revenue shown for that item work where 1415 02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:58,640 is that being specified in the rates the the revenue so the ROI is transferred 1416 02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:03,080 from the electric fund to the general fund a couple months ago the City 1417 02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:07,800 Council did make that decision to increase that ROI through 2022 right so 1418 02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:12,480 where is that shown in the revenue so Billy that's this is Tony sorry so this 1419 02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:18,600 is built into your base rates it's an operating expense okay so we show no 1420 02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:24,600 rate increase that's why I'm confused so it essentially is a drawdown on 1421 02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:31,280 reserves it's a drawdown I'm sorry electric reserves it is okay yeah thank 1422 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:37,480 you oh one more question I didn't I was looking at the capital expenditure or 1423 02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:44,240 scaffold capital budget and it didn't total out the transmission separately 1424 02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:51,120 and that would should equate to revenue correct 1425 02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:59,920 you're talking about the assets that are put into the t-cost rate of return mr. 1426 02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:03,760 cheek is that what you're talking about yeah and as it equates to the capital 1427 02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:09,040 electric five-year capital plan okay let me ask so the answer the answer of that 1428 02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:14,240 Billy's no you know that those assets what shows up on the expense side is the 1429 02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:18,360 debt service and so those revenues are recovered over the the life of those 1430 02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:24,800 assets okay okay well I didn't total the transmission separately from those so 1431 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:30,400 okay we can look at that yeah you just met it now we can we can make that 1432 02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:34,520 adjustment mr. cheap yeah cuz you know t-cost is good that's that's good 1433 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:40,000 expense because it generates revenue correct this gives me an idea what it is 1434 02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:46,760 so I can add about don't worry about it just didn't say that's all I got yeah 1435 02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:53,960 and I guess to that point mr. cheek if you go back to the let me see what slide 1436 02:06:53,960 --> 02:07:02,000 it is on the presentation here it'd be slide number 67 in the slide role it may 1437 02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:05,120 be slide number nine in your presentation and you can't see the 1438 02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:10,520 transmission total on this slide but we can also add it to the detail okay 32.8 1439 02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:14,020 don't worry about I was just having a hard time locating the total I got a 1440 02:07:14,020 --> 02:07:22,200 calculator but alright thanks okay and you had a question yeah regarding the 1441 02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:30,840 21 million that's budgeted for the decommissioning of Gibbons Creek is there 1442 02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:37,760 actually a time framework on the sale is or is this going to drag on forever 1443 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:41,960 this is this is Tony there there is no update at this point they're still 1444 02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:48,360 ongoing negotiations going on by the board and TMPA staff and so at this 1445 02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:53,860 point there's there's really no movement other than both TMPA and the cities have 1446 02:07:53,860 --> 02:07:59,000 included the decommissioning expenses in their budgets for next year is there any 1447 02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:04,520 deadline on these negotiations you know now it's just non-going negotiations an 1448 02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:16,240 open thank you sir go ahead just a quick quick follow-up on Ed's question will 1449 02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:20,200 that contract come before us if there is a contract to sell Gibbons Creek 1450 02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:25,280 absolutely I think as we as TMPA continues to to move forward at some 1451 02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:29,720 point if if we see a path forward then we'll likely come back to the PB into 1452 02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:33,920 the council in closed session and give you a little more specifics before the 1453 02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:41,800 contract ever comes to you okay thanks this man okay anybody else I've got 1454 02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:49,440 three if we go the load forecast one I didn't write it down slide we're showing 1455 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:56,680 in 2019 a decrease I'm assuming that is because of COVID and some of the low was 1456 02:08:56,680 --> 02:09:04,320 probably decreased because people aren't in business yeah so we're seeing 1457 02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:08,440 probably about a five to seven percent decrease in overall load here in the 1458 02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:17,760 city so okay all right and then on page 66 if you could remind me what is our 1459 02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:28,320 required debt service coverage is it 1.2 1.25 1.25 so I know there are just 1460 02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:33,960 projections and you refine them but it does show that in 2023 and 2024 we will 1461 02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:38,760 drop below our debt service coverage ratios but we we have opportunity to 1462 02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:44,480 change that before those years correct yeah the future five-year forecast shows 1463 02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:49,840 us dropping below the 1.25 and 2023 and 2024 but you know we'll continue to 1464 02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:52,940 refine this bring it back to the public utility board every single year as 1465 02:09:52,940 --> 02:09:56,600 things change in the load forecast with the electric utility so I bet you are 1466 02:09:56,600 --> 02:10:00,320 correct it does currently show us going below and Susan this is Tony I'll just 1467 02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:07,840 point out that the city's debt policy is where that 1.25 is found for bond 1468 02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:12,440 covenant standpoints the only bonds that require that times coverage are the 1469 02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:17,160 outstanding revenue bonds that we issued in 2017 for the deck and that actually 1470 02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:22,440 only requires a one-time coverage ratio so for bond company standpoint we're 1471 02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:27,040 fine either way it's the internal debt city debt policy that they will need to 1472 02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:31,600 address and I was more concerned about the bond covenant so thank you yes and 1473 02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:38,160 then my last one is simple what is dark fiber that we're discontinuing so Chris 1474 02:10:38,160 --> 02:10:47,360 Lutrix on the phone I'll ask him to explain the dark fiber really quick if 1475 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:59,440 he's not Terry's here quick explanation dark fiber is just a fiber optic cable 1476 02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:07,440 that is dark or not lit up on either end and that's we don't provide that service 1477 02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:14,520 any longer okay typically on a dark fiber product the customer would install 1478 02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:20,360 the equipment at its end and light it up and maintain that equipment I didn't 1479 02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:24,640 want to assume that that's what it was okay thank you I thought it was a 1480 02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:34,320 conspiracy theory any other questions all right all right I'll turn it over to 1481 02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:45,840 Terry to review the deck finances with you good good morning again Terry Nolte 1482 02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:52,360 assistant general manager madam chairman I didn't want to be presumptive but if 1483 02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:57,640 you wanted to take a break we could certainly do that at any time now would 1484 02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:03,120 be good before we get into this deck this is gonna be one isn't it okay well 1485 02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:08,080 that's it'll take it'll take about 15 minutes to go through the presentation 1486 02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:14,480 okay what do you five minutes ten minutes what do y'all need five five okay 1487 02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:17,440 five minute break 1488 02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:28,800 11 26 a.m. and we're back we're going to go over the deck mr. Nolte okay I'm gonna 1489 02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:37,440 pull up the presentation this is a presentation that I put together for 1490 02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:43,140 City Council we discussed with them last week in general what we're trying to do 1491 02:12:43,140 --> 02:12:48,080 here is show that the deck on a standalone basis when we look at the 1492 02:12:48,080 --> 02:12:53,840 deck pro forma we look at expenses and revenues for the deck on a standalone 1493 02:12:53,840 --> 02:13:00,560 basis and we're projecting for the next five years as we did this year negative 1494 02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:04,440 net income for the deck on a standalone basis however there are additional 1495 02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:11,320 sources of revenue and savings I shouldn't say revenue additional sources 1496 02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:17,920 of value that the deck brings to the overall supply portfolio that explained 1497 02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:23,000 the Nate why a negative net income on a standalone basis is a very viable 1498 02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:37,680 solution so you can see the deck oh sorry and get the presentation up 1499 02:13:51,120 --> 02:14:01,360 okay so the biggest additional source of value is the fact that were it not for 1500 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:06,320 the deck we would have to purchase significantly more renewable energy and 1501 02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:12,040 I'll just point out the deck in my research was a component of the overall 1502 02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:19,080 renewable Denton plan to achieve the 70% renewable and then a hundred percent 1503 02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:25,320 under the Denton renewable resource plan currently have 460 megawatts contracted 1504 02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:30,080 if we were to go to a hundred percent renewable without the deck we'd have to 1505 02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:37,040 put under contract 800 to 900 megawatts this is the same approach that 1506 02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:44,920 Georgetown Texas has used and as you may be aware as a result of that oversupply 1507 02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:50,880 their their electric rates are the highest in the state the other source of 1508 02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:57,800 value so so for us in today's market it was it's about 18 to 20 million of 1509 02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:02,320 incremental annual energy purchases that we would have to make if we did not have 1510 02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:09,080 the deck the original pro forma in 2016 predicted that to be nine nine to 20 1511 02:15:09,080 --> 02:15:15,840 million dollars we also achieve significant savings in being able to 1512 02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:21,320 arbitrage the day ahead market and the real-time market the original pro forma 1513 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:27,400 projected 2.3 million and in the first full year of operation we were able to 1514 02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:37,320 achieve 3.3 million of actual day ahead to real-time arbitrage here you see the 1515 02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:44,660 pro forma and here are the negative net income numbers that we're speaking to if 1516 02:15:44,660 --> 02:15:49,400 we add these additional sources of value now you see the 3.3 million of the day 1517 02:15:49,400 --> 02:15:55,360 had real-time come in and the avoided energy reap any avoided renewable energy 1518 02:15:55,360 --> 02:16:00,320 purchases that we'd have to make and you can see they get larger out here in time 1519 02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:08,880 and that's due to the to the forward curve shape and if you add those 1520 02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:16,040 sources of value in now the the true adjusted net income becomes positive 1521 02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:25,280 from 14 4.7 million for this fiscal year moving up some years to 11 million and 1522 02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:34,600 7.8 million and 23 24 now if we look at the shutdown has been suggested by 1523 02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:41,520 members of council if we take out all the energy expenses and all of the 1524 02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:47,000 energy and capacity and ancillary service revenues and all we have is the 1525 02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:53,960 debt you would see that the debt net income would be the exact debt burden 1526 02:16:53,960 --> 02:16:59,280 17.2 million dollars a year now if we add in those additional renewable energy 1527 02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:06,280 purchases that we'd have to make and the lost gross margins because in our five 1528 02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:11,120 year forecast we have gross margins being achieved by the deck which would 1529 02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:16,320 be lost if the deck were shut down we ended up with these adjusted gross 1530 02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:25,960 adjusted net income numbers at 28 to 35 million over the next five years and 1531 02:17:25,960 --> 02:17:31,840 then if you put the adjusted net income with the deck the lost net income with 1532 02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:39,080 the deck you end up with these large numbers of the decks value true value is 1533 02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:46,120 between 36 and 43 million a year over the next five years and then to put this 1534 02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:51,680 in terms that ratepayers can get their arms around if we were to not have the 1535 02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:56,080 deck these would be very large rate increases that we'd have to impose on 1536 02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:05,920 the energy cost adjustment 65 82 74 69 percent annual increases that's those 1537 02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:11,880 are standalone numbers not compounded and then for the average homeowner that 1538 02:18:11,880 --> 02:18:18,560 would be you can see 27 dollars a month up to 35 dollars a month and annually it 1539 02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:31,120 would be 334 up to 421 dollars per year in additional energy cost so that that 1540 02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:36,880 was a theoretical forward look if we look at the actual performance of the 1541 02:18:36,880 --> 02:18:42,560 last two some of the last summer and then this summer so last summer I think 1542 02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:47,960 earlier today we mentioned the fact that you know Todd mentioned we made 17.8 1543 02:18:47,960 --> 02:18:53,440 million dollars in a five-day period and a 17.3 million dollars of gross margin 1544 02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:58,960 we had mild temperatures up until mid-August then we had the price spikes 1545 02:18:58,960 --> 02:19:03,680 our purchase power costs for the overall portfolio of which the deck is a 1546 02:19:03,680 --> 02:19:10,520 component of 11.1 million without the deck if we run this analysis and we 1547 02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:15,800 would comply with the risk policy that's been approved by PUB and Council we 1548 02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:21,160 would have had to purchase a hedge a financial hedge is 7 by 16 that's a 7 1549 02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:29,480 days a week the on peak hours from 7 in the morning until 11 at night well our 1550 02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:35,120 purchase power costs would have been 29.4 and the deck effectively saved 18.3 1551 02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:42,280 million for last summer if we look at this summer through the 13th of August 1552 02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:48,320 again we're spearing mild temperatures we have had no price spikes to say we 1553 02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:55,640 did have a couple on the 17th but that's not included in this temporal period our 1554 02:19:55,640 --> 02:20:01,920 purchase power cost today 5.8 million through the 13th and without without the 1555 02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:07,240 deck with that same hedge it would have cost us 18.2 million for a savings of 1556 02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:15,800 12.4 million so with that I'll open it up to any questions you might have 1557 02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:28,680 I think there was some discussion about this in the past but considering a 1558 02:20:28,680 --> 02:20:36,680 scenario where where federal regulations come in environmental regulations come 1559 02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:45,880 in that that would not probe that would prohibit further co2e emissions and that 1560 02:20:45,880 --> 02:20:53,800 sort of stuff does do you all have a contingency plan in place yet if should 1561 02:20:53,800 --> 02:21:01,000 that occur where the the decks operation would be severely curtailed by that sort 1562 02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:08,120 of regulation we haven't formalized a plan there are a couple of options for 1563 02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:14,960 us you know I think it's impractical to think that that would be a like a light 1564 02:21:14,960 --> 02:21:18,920 switch where you turn it on and emissions would be limited it'd be a 1565 02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:25,760 long runway to a final end state where you know you'd have a five to ten year 1566 02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:30,800 runway of time to make those kinds of changes so we have plenty of time to 1567 02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:35,880 make those plans one of the new technologies that's being considered is 1568 02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:44,800 using surplus renewable energy at night to generate hydrogen and then and inject 1569 02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:52,120 that hydrogen into natural gas pipeline and use that to combust in in units like 1570 02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:58,360 the deck the deck actually is designed to be able to handle that type of fuel 1571 02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:06,360 and any any regulatory paradigm that would come out of such legislation would 1572 02:22:06,360 --> 02:22:11,640 most likely include like I say an on-ramp to allow for the industry to 1573 02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:16,280 change and to accommodate that type it's impractical to think that Texas as a 1574 02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:22,720 market would be able to go away from fossil fuels completely just the nature 1575 02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:29,400 of the intermittency of wind and solar necessitate having backups or else we'd 1576 02:22:29,400 --> 02:22:37,440 be seeing what California saw last week which was rotating outages of 200,000 1577 02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:45,440 people per day so that's kind of a personal opinion but again I think the 1578 02:22:45,440 --> 02:22:49,760 thing the way to think about this is it to be a very long transition period yeah 1579 02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:57,320 I agree completely and in the when the when the deck was initially discussed 1580 02:22:57,320 --> 02:23:05,400 years ago there was we were told that a certain amount of land was going to be 1581 02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:12,840 left available around the deck to possibly install some sort of solar 1582 02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:18,640 installations I don't know if you if you are aware of that or if and if that is 1583 02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:26,200 of any that validity in terms of consideration well the the the land at 1584 02:23:26,200 --> 02:23:31,280 the deck while we do have a significant amount of land out there it's actually 1585 02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:36,520 not sufficient to get the economies of scale that we're achieving in the 1586 02:23:36,520 --> 02:23:42,440 utility solar purchases that we're making of the utility solar purchases 1587 02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:47,280 that we're making are you know in a hundred megawatt increments and that 1588 02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:56,160 requires between 700 and a thousand acres for that level of production okay 1589 02:23:56,160 --> 02:24:08,680 thank you Terry Karen okay I have a rookie question for a Terry can you let 1590 02:24:08,680 --> 02:24:11,480 me just think out loud a minute I'm trying to figure out how the deck 1591 02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:18,680 reduces our dependence on buying renewables and is it because when we 1592 02:24:18,680 --> 02:24:23,600 sell the deck energy to the market we get a credit which is then coming back 1593 02:24:23,600 --> 02:24:31,440 into our system as a renewable here and I have the same rookie question yeah so 1594 02:24:31,440 --> 02:24:36,220 so the way that the way that the council has set the ground rules for 1595 02:24:36,220 --> 02:24:39,840 determining whether we're a hundred percent renewable as we look at the 1596 02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:44,960 total energy we serve for the year and then we look at the number of renewable 1597 02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:49,480 energy credits that we have for that same temporal period so what happens is 1598 02:24:49,480 --> 02:24:55,240 our generation of renewable energy at night from the wind units and surplus 1599 02:24:55,240 --> 02:25:01,160 solar generation in the shoulders shoulder hours building up to the the 1600 02:25:01,160 --> 02:25:05,960 peak demand at five six o'clock in the afternoon those are sold into the market 1601 02:25:05,960 --> 02:25:11,200 we we derive revenues from it but we also derive renewable energy credits 1602 02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:16,960 from those and so those surplus hours are used to offset those hours where 1603 02:25:16,960 --> 02:25:21,040 we're actually generating power from the deck and that's the way the accounting 1604 02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:31,960 works okay yeah thank you Billy okay yeah just a soapbox moment here but yeah 1605 02:25:31,960 --> 02:25:40,240 I'm all all for all renewable energy we can use and use it accordingly I just 1606 02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:47,920 think as a nation especially just in our little community we're in transitional 1607 02:25:47,920 --> 02:25:52,880 period coal makes no sense anymore coal's a dying breed it's of course 1608 02:25:52,880 --> 02:25:56,280 people that's all they have available to produce electricity and their 1609 02:25:56,280 --> 02:26:03,680 transmission lines and how that works up they've got to use it I get it but the 1610 02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:09,800 transportation costs killed coal to too expensive to dig that's obvious it was 1611 02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:17,240 easy to make the decision on you know where we were going on the TMPA and 1612 02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:22,920 coal-fired plant down there and given screen but I think we're just we're 1613 02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:28,640 gonna have to kind of sweat this one out with natural gas it's our best option 1614 02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:45,840 until we can get there we're not there yet that's it I agree my wife never 1615 02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:53,280 tells me to unmute Terry this is the question one of the very first 1616 02:26:53,280 --> 02:27:00,360 presentations you made in today's meeting had to do with the a couple of 1617 02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:06,680 numbers in there that were somewhat amazing to me and I think you cited a 1618 02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:15,520 number that right now in Texas there's over 31,000 megawatts of excess renewable 1619 02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:22,000 generation capacity if I read that right in one of your earlier maybe one of your 1620 02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:27,920 first presentations and back when Denton was contemplating going to a hundred 1621 02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:33,920 percent renewable that number instead of being 31,000 megawatts of excess 1622 02:27:33,920 --> 02:27:42,280 capacity was like six or eight hundred megawatts so any thought we have of 1623 02:27:42,280 --> 02:27:51,760 adding more generation capacity using solar or wind we need to take into mind 1624 02:27:51,760 --> 02:28:00,580 that there's already 31,000 plus megawatts of capacity that is beyond the 1625 02:28:00,580 --> 02:28:07,480 demand did I get that right the numbers are correct it's not actually surplus 1626 02:28:07,480 --> 02:28:13,160 it's it is installed capacity so that's the amount of stock installed wind 1627 02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:20,960 capacity in in ERCOT the peak demand of ERCOT is around 76,000 megawatts so you 1628 02:28:20,960 --> 02:28:27,680 know at 35,000 megawatts or so of renewables it's just under 50% of the 1629 02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:36,280 makeup of the supply capacity in in ERCOT that is predicted to go up the 1630 02:28:36,280 --> 02:28:42,580 biggest increases that we're gonna see today we have about 3,000 megawatts of 1631 02:28:42,580 --> 02:28:47,880 solar we're expecting solar to be at 7,000 megawatts by the end of next year 1632 02:28:47,880 --> 02:28:56,320 and so we're seeing significant increases in solar generation wind 1633 02:28:56,320 --> 02:29:01,560 generation is slowing down a bit because the production tax credits will be 1634 02:29:01,560 --> 02:29:09,720 phased out after 2023 so but we are still seeing I think this year ERCOT 1635 02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:16,840 projects some 7,000 megawatts of additional wind over the next two years 1636 02:29:16,840 --> 02:29:23,280 and again the the the the issue that we struggle with is until we can come up 1637 02:29:23,280 --> 02:29:27,900 with an economical way to to store that power so that we can shift it from the 1638 02:29:27,900 --> 02:29:33,560 periods of time when it's in surplus to the times when we need it we're still 1639 02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:41,280 gonna have to rely on gas primarily in Texas in order to keep the lights on so 1640 02:29:41,280 --> 02:29:46,660 to speak right okay thank you for clearing that up 1641 02:29:46,880 --> 02:29:59,840 other questions all right thank you Terry you're welcome last item we we do 1642 02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:06,760 still have this item correct the energy management organization thought yes so 1643 02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:10,960 that concluded the the budgetary as we do have item B if you want to get us 1644 02:30:10,960 --> 02:30:15,600 started on that and Terry will take that over and it will also have a gentleman 1645 02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:18,440 from Deloitte on the line that'll kind of walk through the presentation as well 1646 02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:23,040 okay all right so then item B receiver report hold a discussion and give staff 1647 02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:27,300 direction regarding the energy management organization financial review 1648 02:30:27,300 --> 02:30:31,700 conducted by Deloitte I wanted to interrupt and point out real quick the 1649 02:30:31,700 --> 02:30:37,760 Deloitte portion of what you all received from legal is actually available to the 1650 02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:52,000 public thanks Larry I've just in case it was inadvertently placed I wanted to 1651 02:30:52,000 --> 02:31:16,040 bring it up before the meeting but as long as it's public no problem it's on 1652 02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:22,440 the desktop where is the desktop 1653 02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:53,040 all right okay so we have item B receiver report hold a discussion and give staff direction. 1654 02:31:53,040 --> 02:32:21,240 All right okay apologize for the technical difficulties I'm gonna turn it 1655 02:32:21,240 --> 02:32:25,580 over to Steve Engler with Deloitte he's gonna walk through the first few of 1656 02:32:25,580 --> 02:32:31,800 these slides. Thanks Terry hope everybody can hear me okay I'm Steve Engler I'm 1657 02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:37,480 managing director with Deloitte's energy risk advisory practice so good morning to 1658 02:32:37,480 --> 02:32:42,480 chair madam chair and the board members thanks for your time I'm gonna kind of 1659 02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:48,360 co-present this next section with with Terry Terry you can flip ahead to the 1660 02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:53,480 kind of past the legal stuff yeah here we go so Deloitte was asked to do 1661 02:32:53,480 --> 02:32:58,440 basically two things one to re perform a benchmark analysis around the 1662 02:32:58,440 --> 02:33:03,800 performance of the financial performance of DME in a way similar that we've done 1663 02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:08,200 it previously and had presented to PUB and council and then the second piece 1664 02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:15,480 was to perform an analysis or basically a check-in of where DME staff is as it 1665 02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:20,040 relates to a number of recommendations that we had made in a prior project 1666 02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:26,560 across the aspects of hedging and risk oversight so with respect to the first 1667 02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:33,400 component of work again this is a benchmark looking at the performance of 1668 02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:40,520 DME from a financial perspective as compared to the market you may recall 1669 02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:47,040 and Terry skip ahead if you wouldn't mind two slides you may recall that we 1670 02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:51,640 had done an analysis prior it was shortly after the the Emo is established 1671 02:33:51,640 --> 02:33:58,120 and when you had had a recently quoted full requirements supply contract for 1672 02:33:58,120 --> 02:34:04,080 the for the energy requirements for the to serve your load given that there had 1673 02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:10,320 been a number of years since that contract had been quoted and initially as 1674 02:34:10,320 --> 02:34:13,780 well there have been a number of changes to the basically the underlying 1675 02:34:13,780 --> 02:34:20,520 portfolio that DME and the Emo manages specifically a significant addition of 1676 02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:24,080 long-term purchase power agreements some of those renewable agreements that 1677 02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:29,480 Terry's mentioned it was agreed that the the methodology that we had followed 1678 02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:36,080 the first time was no longer relevant and so we had to think about adjustments 1679 02:34:36,080 --> 02:34:39,840 to that methodology and how we would come up with a fair comparison so the 1680 02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:45,320 first thing that do I did with with management with staff was to basically 1681 02:34:45,320 --> 02:34:49,760 agree on the methodology that would be followed in order to calculate the 1682 02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:54,520 benchmark comparison another element that was discussed where there were some 1683 02:34:54,520 --> 02:35:01,120 financial obligations for example with the debt service related to MPA a number 1684 02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:06,680 of things that predated the establishment of the Emo so that also 1685 02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:11,680 caused some challenges in terms of getting apples to apples comparison so 1686 02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:15,360 what we agreed on the focus of the assessment of the focus of the 1687 02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:19,720 benchmark comparison should be on that portion of the energy and the related 1688 02:35:19,720 --> 02:35:24,720 costs that are actually manageable by the Emo so things like the TMPA debt 1689 02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:29,040 service and things like the the costs related to those long-term purchase 1690 02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:34,360 power agreements that are part of the renewable dent and plan were were 1691 02:35:34,360 --> 02:35:39,480 identified and calculated but separated from from the analysis and then finally 1692 02:35:39,480 --> 02:35:42,920 that what I would point out is where we essentially ended up as a recommendation 1693 02:35:42,920 --> 02:35:48,240 for the benchmark was to to use the observable day ahead ERCOT electricity 1694 02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:52,480 prices that are that are available and published in the market and we would use 1695 02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:58,040 that as the benchmark comparison to the performance of the of the Emo for the 1696 02:35:58,040 --> 02:36:09,160 for the given time period of the study so the you can look to think about the 1697 02:36:09,160 --> 02:36:15,160 analysis really in three components the first and I guess the overarching or the 1698 02:36:15,160 --> 02:36:20,920 all-in analysis looked at all load as valued at the day ahead market prices 1699 02:36:20,920 --> 02:36:28,680 plus the adders for ancillary services QSE costs other components were included 1700 02:36:28,680 --> 02:36:36,320 and calculated consistent with the between the FY17 and FY18 approach this 1701 02:36:36,320 --> 02:36:42,200 is really an all-in cost to serve the dent and load the next piece of the 1702 02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:48,880 analysis was to identify isolate and then ultimately separate those renewable PPA 1703 02:36:48,880 --> 02:36:54,440 contracts that that that you are in so identifying the portion of the load 1704 02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:59,240 that served served by those PPAs the cost associated with that and then 1705 02:36:59,240 --> 02:37:03,320 separating that out from the overall there would be all-in costs and what 1706 02:37:03,320 --> 02:37:07,960 you're left with really is the remainder or what we described as the manageable 1707 02:37:07,960 --> 02:37:14,640 portion of the load for which we identified the the forecasted costs as 1708 02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:19,000 well as the performance of DME specific to that manageable portion of the 1709 02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:25,680 portfolio so what Deloitte was engaged to do essentially we did a 1710 02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:32,080 re-performance if you will of the analysis so we as I said work with with 1711 02:37:32,080 --> 02:37:39,520 staff to agree on the methodology and the data required in order to calculate 1712 02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:48,160 the benchmark we agreed on that and then DME staff actually developed a model and 1713 02:37:48,160 --> 02:37:53,920 calculated the benchmark and the comparison costs separate to that and 1714 02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:58,960 independent of that Deloitte obtained all of the relevant cost and benchmark 1715 02:37:58,960 --> 02:38:04,200 data and all those things that were components of the model and we 1716 02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:10,960 separately obtained ERCOT pricing data and essentially re-performed or 1717 02:38:10,960 --> 02:38:16,320 independently re-performed the the the model assessment and validated the 1718 02:38:16,320 --> 02:38:21,200 results that were obtained both by the Denton approach the Denton DME staff 1719 02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:28,120 approach which was then repeated and validated by by Deloitte you can see 1720 02:38:28,120 --> 02:38:32,520 that the components of the of the analysis down below there was the actual 1721 02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:36,520 cost component the benchmark calculation is as compared to the original 1722 02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:41,840 calculation we reviewed and agreed upon those exclusions from the methodology 1723 02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:47,640 that I mentioned before validated the ancillary service components of the 1724 02:38:47,640 --> 02:38:53,040 charges and then as I said reviewed the file and the aggregation of those costs 1725 02:38:53,040 --> 02:39:00,720 across that whole methodology so the the re-performance was really front front to 1726 02:39:00,720 --> 02:39:05,400 back in terms of the establishment of the assumptions in the model the cost 1727 02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:09,040 and the data components of the model and in the execution of the calculation 1728 02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:16,120 itself. Terry do you want to summarize what we came up with in terms of the 1729 02:39:16,120 --> 02:39:21,640 DME calculation that was validated also by Deloitte? Sure, working with Deloitte 1730 02:39:21,640 --> 02:39:28,640 it was a very detailed effort here there's a lot of a very complex analysis 1731 02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:35,160 and we've tried to boil it down into its summary pieces here but in the 1732 02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:41,960 first block first table here shows that the we take the total load that we 1733 02:39:41,960 --> 02:39:48,120 served for the year and we dispatched the load against the market using that 1734 02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:55,960 day ahead metric. You can see that the actual performance we we were able to 1735 02:39:55,960 --> 02:40:04,160 supply the load for 58 million versus a projected metric of 64.4 for a benefit of 1736 02:40:04,160 --> 02:40:11,160 6.2 million. Then we look at the PPA performance and the same analysis was 1737 02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:17,320 done but here you see the PPAs actually cost us about 5.5 million and that's 1738 02:40:17,320 --> 02:40:23,080 primarily due to the fact that PPAs are a fixed price contract and they're 1739 02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:30,000 selling that fixed priced energy into a market. That market is the actual market 1740 02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:38,080 at the time and that resulted in a 5.5 million dollar loss. That's just the 1741 02:40:38,080 --> 02:40:43,160 nature of our position. The wind shows up at night when the prices are very low 1742 02:40:43,160 --> 02:40:50,320 and then when we take the non PPA performance which which would be the 1743 02:40:50,320 --> 02:40:54,040 dispatchable part we call it dispatchable but it's when we think 1744 02:40:54,040 --> 02:41:00,080 about a wind resource we have a projected profile of output for that 1745 02:41:00,080 --> 02:41:06,960 wind resource on a daily basis for each hour of the day by month and from that 1746 02:41:06,960 --> 02:41:15,960 we have to assess a probability of actually getting that energy and we have 1747 02:41:15,960 --> 02:41:22,840 normalized that into what we think is a reasonable confidence interval and 1748 02:41:22,840 --> 02:41:27,600 optimizing that against the day ahead market we were able to achieve about 1749 02:41:27,600 --> 02:41:37,560 11.7 million dollars of benefit. A couple of things that are important 1750 02:41:37,560 --> 02:41:42,320 to the analysis when we look at congestion and that's the difference in 1751 02:41:42,320 --> 02:41:47,040 prices between where we deliver energy into the market from our renewables 1752 02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:53,160 versus where we buy it at to serve the load we have congestion and we buy 1753 02:41:53,160 --> 02:42:00,240 congestion rights as three years out in the future. There is a settlement of 1754 02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:07,160 surplus revenues that are in the market called card that's the leftover money 1755 02:42:07,160 --> 02:42:12,060 from auctions that we participated in and other market participants 1756 02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:18,760 participated in that are then refunded back to to each of the participants on a 1757 02:42:18,760 --> 02:42:25,240 pro rata share so it decreases the benchmark cost it's actually a positive 1758 02:42:25,240 --> 02:42:35,440 benefit for ratepayers. We also had a PPA forecast versus the day ahead market 1759 02:42:35,440 --> 02:42:41,320 price so that this is that variability that I was mentioning to you in the 1760 02:42:41,320 --> 02:42:49,480 output of the of the renewables and then without the TMPA debt exclusion and we 1761 02:42:49,480 --> 02:42:55,760 also to be intellectually honest with the with the analysis here we assessed a 1762 02:42:55,760 --> 02:43:04,160 penalty of 50 cents per megawatt hour for optimization and that's basically a 1763 02:43:04,160 --> 02:43:12,120 cost that we think for each megawatt hour you can even unskilled people given 1764 02:43:12,120 --> 02:43:22,640 some direction could good achieve 50 cents of savings. So with that I'll turn 1765 02:43:22,640 --> 02:43:29,200 back over you Stephen. Okay thanks Terry and so then the second part of the the 1766 02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:34,960 analysis that Deloitte was asked to perform was essentially an update or a 1767 02:43:34,960 --> 02:43:39,480 calibration of where DME is as it relates to a number of recommendations 1768 02:43:39,480 --> 02:43:44,080 that we provided in the previous engagement so you may recall that we 1769 02:43:44,080 --> 02:43:47,240 were asked to do kind of a benchmark or leading practice assessment of 1770 02:43:47,240 --> 02:43:56,240 capabilities across DME specific to the commodity risk management capabilities 1771 02:43:56,240 --> 02:44:01,960 so we did that benchmark or that leading practice analysis several years ago we 1772 02:44:01,960 --> 02:44:06,040 made a number of recommendations across the dimensions of people process 1773 02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:12,680 governance and technology and management was interested in basically us 1774 02:44:12,680 --> 02:44:18,280 assessing where where DME is in terms of progress against those recommendations 1775 02:44:18,280 --> 02:44:24,400 so what we did is we made data requests we reviewed documentation and processes 1776 02:44:24,400 --> 02:44:28,480 and policies that have been put in place since the original assessment and we 1777 02:44:28,480 --> 02:44:32,840 were able to for each of the recommendations we made ascertain 1778 02:44:32,840 --> 02:44:36,640 whether we not whether or not we felt that the recommendation was complete 1779 02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:41,600 whether it was still in progress or whether it had yet to be begin so in the 1780 02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:46,960 next slide we can show you kind of a in a graphical way you see the four 1781 02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:51,320 dimensions that our recommendations were grouped into governance process people 1782 02:44:51,320 --> 02:44:57,400 and technology you can say at the time of the assessment we did a an evaluation 1783 02:44:57,400 --> 02:45:03,280 as to the current state of capabilities and then the desired future state so the 1784 02:45:03,280 --> 02:45:07,720 recommendations that we made were all intended to essentially close those gaps 1785 02:45:07,720 --> 02:45:11,600 between the black circles and the green and then all the way to the right if you 1786 02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:16,040 can make out the font you can see that the recommendations were grouped into 1787 02:45:16,040 --> 02:45:22,320 high medium and low priority categorizations and then across each of 1788 02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:26,680 the dimensions how many recommendations we made and in the final column under 1789 02:45:26,680 --> 02:45:31,240 status you can see that in the column under C those are the recommendations 1790 02:45:31,240 --> 02:45:36,760 that have been completed the under IP are in progress you can see that there 1791 02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:40,320 are some recommendations that are in that state as well and then there was 1792 02:45:40,320 --> 02:45:45,320 one that was deemed not relevant by management and so therefore that was 1793 02:45:45,320 --> 02:45:50,880 that was kind of set aside so the next slide shows even a more summarized 1794 02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:55,820 version of this we had 60 recommendations in total 27 of them in 1795 02:45:55,820 --> 02:46:02,160 our view are completed and 32 are in process or ongoing I would say the 1796 02:46:02,160 --> 02:46:07,760 majority of those either in process or ongoing recommendations are either 1797 02:46:07,760 --> 02:46:12,260 enabled by or relate directly to the implementation of a commodity trading 1798 02:46:12,260 --> 02:46:19,760 and risk management system which on an interim basis DME is now using a Deloitte's 1799 02:46:19,760 --> 02:46:26,040 cloud hosted commodity reporting and reporting system and there is also a 1800 02:46:26,040 --> 02:46:31,220 plan which perhaps Terry can speak to to implement a permanent solution which 1801 02:46:31,220 --> 02:46:36,400 will and already has in fact addressed a lot of those that we noted were in 1802 02:46:36,400 --> 02:46:45,360 progress recommendations happy to take questions or comments Terry anything I 1803 02:46:45,360 --> 02:46:52,640 missed or left out I think you covered it okay that's gins 1804 02:46:52,640 --> 02:47:03,600 all right I guess there are no questions thank you thank you all right that 1805 02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:11,160 concludes all the items do we have a motion to adjourn some move okay 1806 02:47:11,160 --> 02:47:18,560 second we are adjourned y'all next bye bye