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 Yes, Russ.

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 I was absent on the 13th, so I won't vote on that one.

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 Okay, so we'll need to take them in two different.

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 Okay.

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 I have nothing on the 13th, so we can approve that as far as I'm concerned.

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 Okay, do we have a motion?

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 I second his motion to approve.

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 Okay.

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 Assuming Russ was effectively a motion to approve, I second.

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 Okay.

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 All in favor, aye?

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 Aye.

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 Opposed?

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 And Karen's not voting, so that's a record.

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 Okay.

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 July 27th.

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 Russ, you have a?

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 Yeah, just to comment on item C, where we discussed that pump failure.

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 And the comment – what I think is maybe the most important comment was not listed

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 in the minutes, and that comment is the discussion we had with Ken Banks about the need to have

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 a policy to require a written, formal, root-caused analysis or a root-caused analysis or a failure

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 analysis when something like that happens.

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 And he said he was going to make sure that requirement was in his policies, and if not,

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 he was going to add it to his policies.

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 That's, to me, the most important thing that came out of that.

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 We can certainly go back and amend those minutes and bring them back to you.

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 So, Russ, the PUB received a fairly thorough report on that right afterwards.

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 I've never received – I've never received anything about it.

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 Right, because you weren't on the board at that point.

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 So it might be useful if somebody could let you know the date of the minutes or the date

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 of the presentation, and you could go back and look at our backup.

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 Okay.

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 That's fine.

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 Yeah.

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 I can do a pretty detailed report once something like this happens.

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 Okay.

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 I guess the question was, is it a requirement written down in any policy of the department?

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 That's the issue.

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 Or is it just kind of a hit-and-miss thing?

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 I think it's a routine, isn't it, Tony?

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 Yes, it is.

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 I think Kenny wanted to verify whether or not it was in the policy.

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 He was pretty confident that it was, but I don't think he's completed his review of

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 that.

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 Okay.

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 But we can certainly get back with you, Mr. Bradford, and kind of let you know kind of

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 where that is.

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 All right.

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 Thank you.

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 That's the only thing I had on that.

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 So do we just table this?

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 I have a couple of amendments to the minutes as well.

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 Okay.

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 Go ahead.

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 Where are you, Charlie?

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 First, on the Item 2B, just for the sake of abundance of caution, I think we should mention

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 that Bill Chee left the meeting and recused himself from the discussion, not just that

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 he recused himself for the discussion.

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 Given the scope and the size of that, I think we should document it in the minutes that

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 he left the meeting.

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 And then- The clarification, actually.

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 The second clarification on the lawsuit issue, the minutes refer to it as a lawsuit between

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 DME and former employees, and that seems a little bit misleading.

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 The lawsuit is grim and- Excuse me, Charlie?

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 Charlie?

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 Yeah.

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 Can you turn your camera on, please?

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 Thank you.

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 I can't look at- I'll have my camera on in just a second.

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 I've got to read off of my word, then I'll turn my camera off.

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 But the lawsuit is entitled Grim and Maynard versus City of Denton.

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 So it's a little misleading to call it a lawsuit between DME and former employees.

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 And it also says that the judgment has not been received or arrived at.

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 The jury awarded a $3.9 million verdict on or around February, what, 10th of 2020.

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 So I think covering it differently seems- And I've got my video on now.

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 I just wanted to look at my notes on that.

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 I think we should be accurate in the minutes and not call it a lawsuit involving DME and

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 former employees.

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 Grim versus City of Denton is the title of a lawsuit.

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 We can certainly work with the city attorney's office and get those corrected.

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 So I'm assuming we need to table them for now?

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 Correct.

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 And just a point, Larry, if I'm wrong, we need to keep our faces on when we're speaking

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 because this is an open meeting and they need to be recording us visually.

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 Right.

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 So don't turn your cameras off.

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 Sorry.

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 My only reason for turning the camera off was that I was looking at a Word document.

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 I'm down to one computer screen.

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 Okay.

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 All right.

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 That's why I use two different devices.

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 That's okay.

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 Next item is management update, new business action items.

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 So Madam Chair and PB members, there was a couple of items that are still outstanding.

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 I just wanted to go over the items that have been completed.

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 So we've provided the copy of the 2015 fleet ordinance and also the information on the

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 preferred purchasing policy.

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 Those two items have been provided.

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 I think there was some additional feedback from Mr. Sofe regarding the purchasing policy

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 that we'll be taking back to the COE.

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 The item, item number three on the capital utilities approved dollars versus spend dollars

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 that will be covered in today's budget presentations.

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 So we hope that that'll meet your, your expectations on, on that particular item.

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 And then the item number one, which had to do with the, with this pending litigation,

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 I know that at the last meeting, I think it was a three, three kind of vote, but I think

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 the city attorney's office may have some additional information to provide.

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 So I'll look at Larry to see if he wants to chime in on, on that front.

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 Not right now.

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 It's just the appropriate time to get Mr. Chief.

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 I'm actually reversing my decision after I did some reading this weekend.

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 I think we should have an update so that we do understand what's going on knowing that

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 it needs to be in closed session and anything we hear cannot be discussed in public.

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 Billy, what did your thoughts?

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 What was the, what was the item you were speaking which I'm not clear where you're coming from

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 Grimm versus city of Denton, right?

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 The lawsuit.

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 Do we, do you want to hear an update on what is going on with the lawsuit?

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 Yes.

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 You need to request that of city council.

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 Yes, I, I do, but I'm not sure why you were asking me specifically because you were the

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 only one that was not on and it was three, three.

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 Oh, okay.

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 Okay.

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 If that's the, if that's the will of the majority, I'm fine with receiving a report.

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 I was one of the people who was just on the basis that it was a personnel issue.

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 I was there too, Karen.

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 I am.

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 I understand.

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 And I'll make a comment on that, Karen.

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 I think the city attorney is not going to let them give us anything that they don't

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 think is appropriate for us to see.

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 And they shouldn't.

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 Yeah, that's true.

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 That's true.

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 And I think if it affects the budget, that's really where we ought to be coming from.

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 Yeah.

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 So what will it do with the personnel issue itself?

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 We don't need to know anything about the personnel file, just the impact.

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 I want to make sure this is clear.

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 I mean, you need to make sure the record states why, why you're wanting to hear information

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 about the lawsuit, what you're wanting to hear with respect to the lawsuit, when you

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 make that request of council, it doesn't need to be just, Hey, we want to hear everything

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 about that.

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 And Mr. Cheek is right.

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 That's where I was coming from the last meeting is when you look at the charter, you have

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 the responsibility.

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 The PB is with respect to the really the financial operation, the utilities, there's nothing about

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 personnel decisions within that, that's reserved to the city council, the city manager.

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 Right.

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 So from my perspective, what is the financial impact?

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 What is the worst it can be and what is the best it can be and limit it to what our financial

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 obligation to that would be.

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 Any other board member want to weigh in on, is that the correct direction?

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 Certainly if the, the impact of the jury's verdict is something that's going to be absorbed

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 by the city's budget and the general fund, I would agree.

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 It's not within our scope particularly, but if it's the intention of the city manager

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 and the city attorney's office to have the municipal utilities funds absorb some of the

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 cost of the lawsuit, then yes, it's very germane to our committee to certainly know the publicly

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 available information and any non-public information that is, that's germane to our decision or.

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 Yeah, expanding on Charlie's point, we, you know, if it's going to be a policy to not

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 come up and make a, a settlement that affects the budget and this can, this policy continues.

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 It will affect all future budgets and therefore, although we don't need to get into the personnel

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 issue, we need to get into the policy of what is our, what is the city's decision, what

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 are the city's decision going to be handling employees with lawsuits as it affects the

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 budget?

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 Does that make sense?

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 And Tony, typically in, from the accounting perspective, the fund that is affected is

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 usually the one charged so.

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 That is correct.

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 Obviously there's insurance implications as well.

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 We do have business practice insurance, but generally speaking, a lot of these expenses

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 will come out of the city's risk fund that ultimately ends up being allocated back out

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 to the, to the respective fund.

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 However, depending on the amount that we may be talking about, it could come directly out

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 of the utilities.

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 I mean, ultimately in this particular one, it'll, it'll be the electric fund that would

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 be burdened with any, any expenditure.

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 All right.

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 Is it clear what we're asking Larry?

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 Yes.

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 Okay.

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 All right.

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 And I, I do need to tell you that we need to be done by 10 30 because the city council

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 is meeting today.

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 So let's move on to concluding items.

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 Does any board member wish to have an item added to the future agenda or have any comments

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 to make?

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 I see none.

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 So let's move on to the work session and receive a report, hold a discussion and give direction

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 to the water wastewater drainage and solid waste and fiscal year 2021 proposed budget

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 capital improvement program and five year financial forecast.

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 So PB members will turn this over to Nick Vincent.

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 Good morning.

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 PB members, chair and Nick Vincent assistant finance director.

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 First of all, I want to thank everybody for being here today for this special called meeting.

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 We do have three budget presentations to go through the water utility, wastewater utility

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 and solid waste and each of the presentations are broken into two different discussions.

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 The first part of the presentation is an operational discussion and at the end of that, there'll

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 be a slide for questions and then I'll return to the podium to go through the finances for

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 each utility.

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 With that, I'll turn it over to Frank Pugsley to go for water.

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 Thank you, Nick.

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 Good morning, Madam Chair, PB members.

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 I am Frank Pugsley, the water and wastewater utilities director here to discuss the operational

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 portion of the water utilities fiscal year '21 budget presentation.

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 I'd like to start with a few accomplishments and future goals.

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 Just kind of hit a few highlights if you have any specific questions on any of these, please

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 don't hesitate to ask in the Q&A portion.

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 We do have a couple of significant projects ongoing at the Louisville Water Treatment

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 Plant for some major upgrades and as well as zebra mussel control and we have two major

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 water transmission projects in the All Red John Payne Main and the North South Water

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 Transmission Main, which will significantly increase our ability to move water from the

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 north side of town to the south side of town, generally along Bonnie Bray and All Red Road.

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 Some of our future goals in this next fiscal year, we intend to enter into a project to

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 study advanced metering infrastructure for water distribution that'd be similar to the

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 smart meters for electric, so we're going to start investigating that and see what may

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 or may not be the best options for us in the future.

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 And we also intend to continue to make full use of our asset management program that we

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 completed this past fiscal year to make sure we are replacing the right pipes at the right

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 time in their life cycle, as well as coordinating those conditions of those pipes with the street

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 condition index so that we can touch the streets as few times as practical.

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 Some of our philosophical changes that we've had over the past 12 to 18 months, we've really

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 spent a lot of time really focusing on culture building as we've begun to lose a lot of long

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 tenured employees.

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 We started breaking down silos and really working on process and functional integration

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 with other departments in the city, including tech services, IT, public works, capital projects,

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 so we are actually, I think, doing a lot more today than we have done in recent history

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 with fewer people, you know, tighter budgets, and in light of a pandemic, we're still being

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 extremely successful.

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 Some of our planning and cost saving items, as you probably are aware, we are intending

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 on expanding the Ray Roberts water treatment plant significantly.

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 The current planned expansion was for 30 million gallons per day, increasing above the current

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 20MGD capacity.

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 Through a capacity upgrade process that we're going to pursue with the TCEQ, we're actually

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 able to push back the major 30MGD upgrade to be online around 2029 or 2030.

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 So that major upgrade will be the $100 million project you've been hearing about, but we

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 think we can get an extra 5MGD to 10MGD out of the current plant and the current processes

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 within current TCEQ regulations, so that way we can utilize that plant to its full capacity.

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 That has kind of a secondary benefit, and that 30MGD expansion would then be somewhere

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 between, you know, 37 to 45MGD for about the same cost, so we're actually getting a two

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 for one there in some ways.

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 Here's some operational data from our water production.

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 The gray shaded area is our five-year average of monthly water production.

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 The kind of brown-orange line at the top was our 2020 fiscal year budget for water production.

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 The green line was last fiscal year, and the blue line is this fiscal year.

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 As you can see, we've kind of been at or just near our budgeted amounts this year, adjusting

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 for weather.

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 We're doing fairly well, and we finished July basically right in between last fiscal year

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 and our budget, so we're doing pretty well on the water production side.

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 Operational data for the water distribution and asset management groups.

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 We intend to flush 11,000 hydrants this year.

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 That is, on average, each hydrant about twice a year.

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 We have just over 5,000 hydrants in the city, and additionally replace 3,200 meters.

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 And for our system major maintenance, which is our replacement of some of our aging lines,

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 this fiscal year, we've set a minimum goal to replace 29 or 24,000 linear feet.

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 That's based on our new asset management program we've started this year.

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 And in order to accomplish that, we've really partnered heavily with Streets and Public Works

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 and the Capital Projects Group to outsource that additional replacement.

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 So you can see in past fiscal years, we've outsourced very little system replacement,

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 whereas this fiscal year, we're nearly 30,000 feet of outsourced lines.

00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:52.760
 So we're far exceeding that amount this year, close to 44,000, and then we're going to increase

00:17:52.760 --> 00:17:59.000
 that goal next year as we really work together with the Streets program to push that to about

00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.120
 46,000 feet.

00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:06.240
 The benefit we see here is that we can turn outsourcing of this major maintenance on and

00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.240
 off.

00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:12.000
 We really can't outsource emergencies or some of the minor maintenance activities.

00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:17.960
 So we're able to keep our core in-house crews fully utilized and fully busy while we can

00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:25.340
 turn up and down the outsourcing and still meet our 24,000-foot goal.

00:18:25.340 --> 00:18:31.520
 In view of the FTE summary, our full-time employees, we began this year with 107.5.

00:18:31.520 --> 00:18:39.840
 We had 18.5 vacancies, including DSP departures, and we were approved to refill 12 and a half

00:18:39.840 --> 00:18:45.480
 of those, leaving us with 101 and a half FTEs going into next fiscal year.

00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:50.220
 And that salary savings for next fiscal year is about 540,000.

00:18:50.220 --> 00:18:54.400
 And you'll see the positions that were eliminated from the budget listed there in the bulleted

00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:59.680
 list, and we've done all this really with no reductions in level of service.

00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:01.280
 The plants are still operating well.

00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:06.400
 We're still completing our system replacement and our minor maintenance.

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.520
 We're very proud of our ability to continue to work at a high level with fewer staff and

00:19:11.520 --> 00:19:15.560
 more efficiently.

00:19:15.560 --> 00:19:19.840
 The organizational chart for the utilities, you'll see here broken down in basically functional

00:19:19.840 --> 00:19:20.840
 areas.

00:19:20.840 --> 00:19:25.280
 We're familiar with our general manager of utilities, Kenny Banks, and his six direct

00:19:25.280 --> 00:19:30.120
 reports are listed there with their functional responsibilities.

00:19:30.120 --> 00:19:33.600
 I will just note, and I'll probably note it again in the wastewater presentation, you'll

00:19:33.600 --> 00:19:37.440
 see the red box around the Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center.

00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:42.800
 The educational programming components of Clear Creek, as well as the Sustainable Schools

00:19:42.800 --> 00:19:48.720
 Program have been shifted to the Parks Department, so Gary will provide more details on that

00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:51.240
 in his presentation.

00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:59.120
 With that, I will open it up to any questions on the operational aspects of the water utility.

00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:00.120
 Questions of the board?

00:20:00.120 --> 00:20:01.120
 Yes, sir.

00:20:01.120 --> 00:20:03.120
 Does anyone have a question?

00:20:03.120 --> 00:20:06.560
 Frank, on your operational data, slide number four.

00:20:06.560 --> 00:20:07.560
 Yes, sir.

00:20:07.560 --> 00:20:15.000
 The increase in water produced between June of '19 and this year is roughly, according

00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:22.840
 to the way I read it, around 140 million gallons, something like that, which is about a 24%

00:20:22.840 --> 00:20:23.840
 increase.

00:20:23.840 --> 00:20:26.440
 That's a pretty big jump.

00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:29.080
 What's the reason for that increase?

00:20:29.080 --> 00:20:33.000
 I don't have the data right in front of me, but I think if we all can rack our brains,

00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:36.880
 we can remember last spring into summer, it was a very wet year.

00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.840
 We really didn't see that uptick in water production until August and September, so

00:20:41.840 --> 00:20:46.280
 we really made up a lot of ground in late July, August, and September of last year.

00:20:46.280 --> 00:20:50.080
 Up until June, it was just rain and cats and dogs, and we weren't seeing the irrigation

00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:53.280
 demand that we are this year.

00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:57.440
 Then you're relying more on the five-year average than just last year?

00:20:57.440 --> 00:20:58.440
 Correct.

00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:01.560
 Yeah, we like to compare to the five-year average because obviously with growth, we'd

00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:08.080
 like to see our production continue to increase in accordance with our plans.

00:21:08.080 --> 00:21:13.160
 What do you think the main reason for the increase is lawn sprinklers, basically?

00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:17.120
 Yes, it's primarily driven by weather.

00:21:17.120 --> 00:21:21.680
 We had a pretty hot and dry June compared to last year.

00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:22.820
 How close are you?

00:21:22.820 --> 00:21:28.840
 You talked about the upcoming plant capacity increases, and it's going to come online.

00:21:28.840 --> 00:21:32.200
 How close are you now to your capacity?

00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:39.600
 Our peak day that we've experienced all time, I believe, is in the 37 to 39 MGD range.

00:21:39.600 --> 00:21:45.760
 We have 28 or 29 MGD of capacity at the Lewisville plant plus the 20 at Bray Roberts.

00:21:45.760 --> 00:21:50.280
 We have 49, almost 50 MGD of capacity.

00:21:50.280 --> 00:21:57.200
 We have about 11 MGD of spare capacity today, but with the Hunter and Coal Ranch developments,

00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:02.320
 as well as any renewed interest in development in the city of Denton, that additional spare

00:22:02.320 --> 00:22:07.240
 capacity that we have right now will be consumed, we expect, in the next decade.

00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:09.360
 Okay, thanks.

00:22:09.360 --> 00:22:13.160
 Barbara, go ahead.

00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.360
 In the past, the zebra mussels have been a big issue.

00:22:16.360 --> 00:22:18.200
 Are we making improvements?

00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:20.800
 Are we getting a hold of that better?

00:22:20.800 --> 00:22:26.740
 Yes, so part of those Lake Lewisville upgrade projects are some zebra mussel control technologies

00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:31.640
 at both raw water intakes at Bray Roberts and at Lewisville Lake.

00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:34.640
 One of the things that's interesting about zebra mussels, you may have seen in the news

00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:39.040
 this week that grapevine has now been determined to be fully infested.

00:22:39.040 --> 00:22:41.680
 Bray Roberts and Lewisville already are.

00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:46.360
 Whenever we see the initial surge in zebra mussels, it seems like their population peaks

00:22:46.360 --> 00:22:48.880
 and then begins to subside.

00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.840
 We haven't had too many issues with them in the last several years.

00:22:53.840 --> 00:22:59.680
 Whenever we go into Bray Roberts, we're having a major upgrade project between now and the

00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:00.680
 capacity expansion.

00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.480
 We'll go in and we'll clean our raw water line out, because we probably will find some

00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.080
 accumulation of shells in the line.

00:23:07.080 --> 00:23:09.040
 Thank you.

00:23:09.040 --> 00:23:10.760
 Any other questions?

00:23:10.760 --> 00:23:11.760
 Go ahead.

00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:20.160
 Yeah, I'd just like to make a remark about your goals and congratulate you on the improved

00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:25.120
 communication and collaboration and, as you say, the breaking down of silos.

00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:29.540
 I think this is very healthy that the more inner communication on various projects and

00:23:29.540 --> 00:23:35.080
 initiatives and strategies between various departments is very good, because the more

00:23:35.080 --> 00:23:38.080
 brains the more ideas for sure.

00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:39.080
 Thank you.

00:23:39.080 --> 00:23:40.080
 Thank you.

00:23:40.080 --> 00:23:43.280
 Yeah, we're trying to be as efficient as we possibly can, so we're not, you know, we know

00:23:43.280 --> 00:23:48.240
 the right hand and left hand need to know what each other are doing so we can cooperate.

00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.400
 And Frank, is that why we're increasing?

00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.920
 I know you've got it in the slide, but I just want the public to hear it, that we're increasing

00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:59.760
 what we used to do in street rehabilitations to about 46,000, and that's because we're

00:23:59.760 --> 00:24:02.400
 aligning with the street projects that are going on.

00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:07.320
 So when they tear up the street, we're going in and we're doing utilities, so it's more

00:24:07.320 --> 00:24:12.160
 coordinated and we're not tearing up a good street to put in utilities.

00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:13.160
 Correct.

00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:17.400
 Yes, we are definitely coordinating heavily with the street replacement program.

00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:22.120
 And you know, we're looking also very intently on the condition and criticality of the utilities

00:24:22.120 --> 00:24:23.440
 in that street.

00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:28.560
 If we feel like they have ample life left that we don't need to replace them today,

00:24:28.560 --> 00:24:31.560
 we're not going to throw good money in replacing good pipes.

00:24:31.560 --> 00:24:35.400
 We'll let the street project go and we'll plan to come back in, you know, 15 or 20 years

00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.200
 to replace the utilities when the next street project comes through.

00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:42.560
 So we're definitely trying to synchronize all that so we minimize the impacts to the

00:24:42.560 --> 00:24:46.080
 residents and to, like you said, we don't want to tear up a good street.

00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:47.640
 Good idea.

00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:49.680
 Oh, Karen.

00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:55.980
 I was just noticing on page six, you're eliminating an auditor position.

00:24:55.980 --> 00:25:00.560
 How many auditors do you currently have?

00:25:00.560 --> 00:25:10.600
 If Kenny Banks is on the line, I'll let him tackle that question.

00:25:10.600 --> 00:25:11.600
 Good morning, board members.

00:25:11.600 --> 00:25:14.440
 This is Ken Banks, general manager of utilities.

00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:15.440
 Can you hear me?

00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:16.440
 Yes.

00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:17.440
 Yes.

00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:18.440
 Good morning.

00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:30.560
 To address your question, we have had a single auditor position and it's really that position

00:25:30.560 --> 00:25:35.840
 over time has changed more into a business manager position.

00:25:35.840 --> 00:25:43.080
 So that title was retooled this year and we have made that into a business management

00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:44.080
 position.

00:25:44.080 --> 00:25:50.880
 So we had one that did some auditing, but predominantly was dealing with performance

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.400
 measures, business metrics, et cetera.

00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.160
 And now we have essentially the same function.

00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:03.320
 It's just more the title is more aligned with what the job actually does.

00:26:03.320 --> 00:26:07.440
 So you have zero auditors then?

00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:08.440
 That is correct.

00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.560
 Having a formal auditor in the utilities, we do not have one.

00:26:12.560 --> 00:26:16.240
 We have an overall city auditing program.

00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:25.320
 So we didn't want to have any overlap there and so this is basically just a business management

00:26:25.320 --> 00:26:26.320
 position.

00:26:26.320 --> 00:26:27.320
 Okay.

00:26:27.320 --> 00:26:28.320
 Thank you.

00:26:28.320 --> 00:26:32.160
 So to make it clear, the internal auditor's office is still looking at your department.

00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.160
 Yes.

00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:39.840
 I mean, the internal auditor's department examines all aspects of city operations and utilities

00:26:39.840 --> 00:26:43.880
 has certainly been one that they've looked at on a variety of programs.

00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:47.520
 Billy, did you have a question or no?

00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:48.520
 Yeah.

00:26:48.520 --> 00:26:55.200
 I'm going to comment as a whole, it's not just for water, it's for all the utility budget

00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:00.160
 presentations.

00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:04.400
 We're not looking at a preliminary budget, we're looking at a presentation.

00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:06.760
 We don't really see the details.

00:27:06.760 --> 00:27:12.000
 There's a number for capital expenditure, but there is no detail as to what those, and

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:20.720
 I mean purchases of equipment, vehicles, improvements, there's no details of those items.

00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.940
 Council sees this in a few minutes.

00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:30.920
 I really can't give any good advice without any detail and I'm not saying anything against

00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:31.920
 staff.

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:39.560
 I think this is, seems to be the philosophy at the city right now, is that there's no

00:27:39.560 --> 00:27:42.360
 reason to get the board to any detail.

00:27:42.360 --> 00:27:46.760
 So if there's no reason to give the board to any detail or time to consider these things

00:27:46.760 --> 00:27:52.800
 and looking at preliminary budget, how can we possibly advise the council?

00:27:52.800 --> 00:27:55.000
 I think the answer is we can't.

00:27:55.000 --> 00:28:00.440
 I don't see any way to be able to give advice to the council.

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:05.800
 If we don't get preliminary budgets with detail and discussion.

00:28:05.800 --> 00:28:12.880
 And in previous years, I think Nick's going to respond, what the process is for this year.

00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:17.320
 Yes, Mr. Cheek, and I should have mentioned that earlier and for all the board members,

00:28:17.320 --> 00:28:22.000
 this is fully the intent of the finance department, the city management team and the utilities

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.240
 was to take an abbreviated budget presentation forward for the utilities.

00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.300
 What we'll do, and you'll see this is part of the financial discussion, we do fully intend

00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:33.680
 to circle back with the public utility board and city council to have that detailed budget

00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:35.440
 discussion that you're talking about.

00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:38.760
 So to talk about raise, to talk about the capital plan in detail and to talk about the

00:28:38.760 --> 00:28:39.760
 operating budget.

00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:42.440
 Yeah, it's obvious third.

00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:43.960
 So I think that's what I'm saying.

00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:45.760
 I think it's going to be redundant.

00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:48.840
 And all of a sudden we get a detailed budget and go to prove this place.

00:28:48.840 --> 00:28:56.440
 I mean, I would assume, and I shouldn't, that we'd get this budget detail before the council

00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:01.400
 sees it, because there's so many items now that we're getting either after council's

00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.080
 already approved it.

00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:05.680
 So what's the use in presenting it to the PUB?

00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:10.120
 I think it's a bad philosophy.

00:29:10.120 --> 00:29:12.640
 There's no reason to have the boards or commissions.

00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:13.800
 There's zero reason.

00:29:13.800 --> 00:29:17.800
 We have no, I'm not blaming you, Frank, I'm not blaming the staff at all.

00:29:17.800 --> 00:29:21.360
 I think it's a philosophy and it comes from the top down.

00:29:21.360 --> 00:29:24.680
 There's no reason for us to have these boards and commissions that we don't have time to

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.880
 go over the detail and how it affects the city.

00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:32.240
 Well, Billy, I would just say that we do, again, as Nick said, we do plan to circle

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.880
 back with the PUB with all the detail on the budget.

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:42.520
 I think that the reason why we're doing this today is because of the pandemic.

00:29:42.520 --> 00:29:46.440
 We've certainly over the last several months have been concentrating on that.

00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:51.480
 And so we do plan to come back to the PUB with all the detail, giving ample time to

00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.960
 consider that and then be able to make a recommendation back to council.

00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.400
 We're not asking you for a recommendation to the council today.

00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.440
 This is simply a work session, but we do plan to do that.

00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:06.280
 And again, it's because of where we are with the pandemic and where we were with the budget,

00:30:06.280 --> 00:30:07.280
 a lot of uncertainty.

00:30:07.280 --> 00:30:11.920
 And it's only been in the last couple of weeks that we really had a better idea of where

00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.520
 we were headed and what the impact had been.

00:30:14.520 --> 00:30:20.880
 We've been very open with the PUB and the council that there's a delay in when we knew

00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.800
 that when we would know what the financial impact was, was going to be from the pandemic.

00:30:24.800 --> 00:30:26.800
 And so that's why we're here today.

00:30:26.800 --> 00:30:27.800
 Okay.

00:30:27.800 --> 00:30:31.360
 It was the same way last year too, Tony, is what I'm saying.

00:30:31.360 --> 00:30:38.000
 So I mean, this is no change and we're on, we have electronics, there is detail to the

00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.000
 budget, I'm sure.

00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:43.040
 Otherwise you can't formulate these numbers, they've got to come from somewhere.

00:30:43.040 --> 00:30:47.360
 And I don't understand the reason why that's not included in the agenda pack.

00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:48.360
 I really don't.

00:30:48.360 --> 00:30:50.800
 And Mr. Sheik, this is Nick again.

00:30:50.800 --> 00:30:54.040
 We can get that information to you prior to budget adoption.

00:30:54.040 --> 00:30:57.000
 We're not actually seeking any new formal direction from PUB today.

00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:02.040
 It's eventually intent to be an informational session to update the PUB where we are.

00:31:02.040 --> 00:31:05.720
 So before budget adoption and before we ask you to take any action on the budget or rates,

00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.040
 we'll get you a detailed budget where you can look at.

00:31:08.040 --> 00:31:09.040
 Okay.

00:31:09.040 --> 00:31:10.040
 And I appreciate that, Nick.

00:31:10.040 --> 00:31:11.040
 I really do.

00:31:11.040 --> 00:31:15.920
 What I'm saying is a few years ago, you know, this may be the way we used to do it thing,

00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.720
 which everybody hates, we said that, but we had budget season.

00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.560
 It wasn't just a budget presentation.

00:31:22.560 --> 00:31:28.080
 Budget season started in the spring and the board would see the details starting in the

00:31:28.080 --> 00:31:31.960
 spring and start having discussions about, hey, what do we want to do with this section?

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.720
 Today's water, we're going to go over some of the water deals.

00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:39.360
 Two weeks later, we go over solid waste and vice versa.

00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:41.880
 I'm just telling you, I don't believe in the philosophy.

00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:46.000
 I think the boards and commissions become useless at this point if we don't have time

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.500
 to go over the budget.

00:31:48.500 --> 00:31:50.620
 And I'll leave it at that.

00:31:50.620 --> 00:31:57.160
 For the record, I'll agree with Billy's comment and also add a couple of things.

00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:05.080
 I know in our last meeting, we had roughly 400 pages of detail and we got those details

00:32:05.080 --> 00:32:10.840
 on Friday morning, maybe Thursday night, but typically Friday morning and we have our meeting

00:32:10.840 --> 00:32:12.360
 on Monday morning.

00:32:12.360 --> 00:32:18.360
 400 pages is a lot of detail to review in 72 hours.

00:32:18.360 --> 00:32:23.560
 And I realize that that 72 hours is a minimum for the public posting, but I don't believe

00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:29.540
 there's anything wrong with providing it to the members of the PUB a little earlier so

00:32:29.540 --> 00:32:32.960
 that we can have a little bit of time to work.

00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:40.200
 And I think a perfect example of Billy's comment is I'm aware that historically at Lake Ray

00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:46.460
 Roberts, we had some hydroelectric production capability and that that has been shuttered

00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:54.280
 for a number of years, but there is a little bit of hydroelectric capability there.

00:32:54.280 --> 00:33:01.120
 That would be something to include in this level of discussion at the PUB work session.

00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:06.540
 If we had several iterations and could have open discussions about this rather than such

00:33:06.540 --> 00:33:13.580
 formalized presentation, the idea of adding some hydroelectric to our mix seems really

00:33:13.580 --> 00:33:18.180
 desirable to me and a former director of utilities was the one who made me aware of it.

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:23.960
 So that's an example of something that could be brought to light and we could have a discussion

00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:24.960
 about it.

00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:29.880
 It may be that it's unfeasible as heck, that's fine, but the idea of power we don't have

00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.600
 to pay five kilowatt of would be pretty desirable.

00:33:34.600 --> 00:33:37.600
 Other comments?

00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:40.680
 Yes, Ed, go ahead.

00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:48.800
 I'd just like to say is with Mr. Cheek's institutional memory, having seen a lot of what's gone down

00:33:48.800 --> 00:33:59.820
 obviously in this on this board, I strongly support examining the means of dissemination

00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:01.760
 of the information.

00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:07.680
 So because it's just in my short time, it is pretty, pretty some of these agendas and

00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.880
 backup materials that you get on Friday and you have to get ready for Monday.

00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:17.760
 It's pretty, pretty daunting sometimes and especially something like the budget.

00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:25.320
 I see absolutely no reason not to more compartmentalize presentations over an organized schedules.

00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.720
 And I think what he said about budget season is the perfect analogy for this.

00:34:29.720 --> 00:34:35.320
 I think it's a very, very important, obviously very important subject that requires, I think

00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:40.000
 a little more depth in presentation and discussion from us.

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.000
 Thank you.

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.040
 And we did used to get more detailed.

00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:46.520
 Barbara, you and I were both on here a few years ago.

00:34:46.520 --> 00:34:53.360
 I mean, it would be detailed presentation, two weeks, then you, you know, so you had

00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:59.100
 time to digest and ask questions before we came back.

00:34:59.100 --> 00:35:03.520
 And I know this is an unusual year, but like Billy said, maybe last year, maybe we didn't

00:35:03.520 --> 00:35:04.520
 have it either.

00:35:04.520 --> 00:35:09.480
 I'm not really remembering and have to go back and look, the years begin to blend.

00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.440
 So Susan, let us, let us take this feedback back and, and take a look at what we've done

00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.200
 in the past and kind of where we are today and let's even come back with some additional

00:35:19.200 --> 00:35:23.360
 recommendations, obviously maybe too late for this year, but certainly going into next

00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:24.360
 year.

00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:25.360
 And this year is a little different.

00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:26.360
 I understand.

00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.360
 Yeah.

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:28.360
 Karen had a question.

00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.960
 Yeah, I just wanted to follow up on Ed's comment.

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:38.480
 And I only have two years institutional memory on this board, but I've got 13 years of institutional

00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:46.140
 memory on other boards and the whole issue of the 72 hour notice has come up every time.

00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:53.160
 I've been on, I've been on commissions where I'm representing a neighborhood and I need

00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:59.600
 to give my constituents time to go to the torch and pitchfork store, you know, to get

00:35:59.600 --> 00:36:04.720
 ready for the meeting next week so that they can attend the meeting prepared.

00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:05.720
 And it was very frustrating.

00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:12.480
 And we did manage to get staff to bump information to the previous Wednesday, just if something

00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:19.120
 came up that was going to be controversial, the commission could get information a little

00:36:19.120 --> 00:36:21.480
 bit earlier.

00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.800
 But that took probably two years.

00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.560
 So this might be something that needs to come up at the city level or, you know, with boards

00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:38.080
 and commissions as a whole, because nobody can do much in 72 hours, especially if there's

00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:44.000
 going to be a public hearing and you need to get people prepared to present.

00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:51.680
 So this might be a discussion for, you know, a longer discussion and more general discussion.

00:36:51.680 --> 00:36:58.000
 72 hours is just not, you know, we're sleeping for 40 some of those.

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.920
 So we need more time.

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.160
 All right.

00:37:03.160 --> 00:37:10.760
 I agree with that so much, even even when I was on another commission, we had five days

00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.880
 and this turnaround, you've got to be absorbed.

00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:18.720
 If you want to go out and look at something that's mentioned in this, it doesn't leave

00:37:18.720 --> 00:37:20.280
 you time to do research.

00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.680
 And so that would be great.

00:37:22.680 --> 00:37:29.320
 And regarding the budget, seems like this is my first time now, but previously when

00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:33.640
 I was on, we would take one at a time and discuss it.

00:37:33.640 --> 00:37:38.800
 I know this year's different and I thought, well, maybe this is the new normal here, but

00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.360
 it didn't used to be that way.

00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:46.000
 So anyway, I agree with the remarks that have been made.

00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.000
 All right.

00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:48.000
 With that.

00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.000
 Go ahead, Nick.

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.840
 I'll walk you through the budget slides that we do have for you today.

00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:56.960
 And of course, we'll follow back up with you on the requested information about a detailed

00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.960
 discussion.

00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:02.640
 So real quick, the financial assumptions we're going to cover today, Frank, you kind of touched

00:38:02.640 --> 00:38:05.080
 on this a little bit, the growth in the out years.

00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:09.160
 We are currently forecasting a 2% growth in forecasted revenues, and I'll show that to

00:38:09.160 --> 00:38:11.460
 you shortly on the forecast.

00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:15.740
 We are continuing to utilize impact fee funding to revenue fund projects.

00:38:15.740 --> 00:38:20.200
 If you remember last year, we transitioned from using revenue or impact fee funding to

00:38:20.200 --> 00:38:25.320
 just offset debt service to actually revenue funding projects to mitigate that cost associated

00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.320
 with issuing that debt for those projects.

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.800
 We do have the Hunter Coal Ranch development included in these forecasts that you will

00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.760
 see starting near 2024.

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:38.200
 They do start showing up in both the water, wastewater, and solid waste utilities.

00:38:38.200 --> 00:38:42.880
 We are forecasting 3% growth in expenses in the out years, and then the Hunter Coal Ranch

00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.500
 statement I made about revenues.

00:38:45.500 --> 00:38:49.220
 We are currently proposing to the board, we do not have to take any action on this today,

00:38:49.220 --> 00:38:53.640
 a 2% rate decrease for water customers, so residential and commercial.

00:38:53.640 --> 00:38:57.960
 We have a few updates to the rate ordinance we want you to look at today and consider

00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.200
 in August for adoption.

00:39:00.200 --> 00:39:04.320
 These are mostly contractual updates and then anything to do with the rate decrease.

00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.040
 So we do fully intend to circle back in November, December to discuss the rates further with

00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:10.200
 the cost of service study.

00:39:10.200 --> 00:39:13.680
 The water utility is currently going through a cost of service study.

00:39:13.680 --> 00:39:17.560
 It will be completed by then and we do plan to come back to the PUB and city council to

00:39:17.560 --> 00:39:35.120
 update you of where our rates weigh up from a cost of service standpoint.

00:39:35.120 --> 00:39:38.520
 So in the past, we had shown you a five-year forecast.

00:39:38.520 --> 00:39:41.720
 What we are actually doing this year is showing you a 10-year forecast.

00:39:41.720 --> 00:39:45.520
 And to be more transparent about the utility and where we look at or what it looks like

00:39:45.520 --> 00:39:47.680
 over the 10-year horizon.

00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:50.560
 So a couple of things I want to point out to you, you can see the 2020 adopted budget

00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:54.320
 in this column, and this is the current fiscal year we're currently in.

00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.120
 We do have planned use of reserves about $2.9 million.

00:39:58.120 --> 00:40:01.280
 So this budget was adopted by both the PUB and city council.

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.440
 There are no rate increases or decreases included in the proposed budget.

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.920
 End of year estimate, we are really close to being what we originally intended in the

00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:14.120
 budget, about $2.7 or $2.8 million in reserve usage.

00:40:14.120 --> 00:40:19.240
 A couple of other things in this reform I want to point out, we do currently have a

00:40:19.240 --> 00:40:23.600
 little bit of COVID impact reflected in the water fund of $617,000.

00:40:23.600 --> 00:40:27.400
 And this is another reason we do want to circle back with the PUB and city council in November

00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:32.240
 and December this year, we'll actually fully understand what the COVID impact or the COVID

00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:36.920
 pandemic will have to the utilities at that point, and be able to update the PUB and city

00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:37.920
 council accordingly.

00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:41.520
 So that's another reason for those discussions coming up.

00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:45.640
 And a few other reasons for doing that is our high usage months in the water utility

00:40:45.640 --> 00:40:49.440
 typically, you know, tends to be July through September.

00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.200
 So we'll have that data of kind of where we finished the year and how many bills are outstanding

00:40:53.200 --> 00:40:54.200
 at that point.

00:40:54.200 --> 00:40:59.780
 Moving to your right-hand side, the 2021 proposed budget, I mean, you can't see it in this column,

00:40:59.780 --> 00:41:02.920
 so we have rate revenue of $39.5 million.

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.960
 We do have some other revenues in here that you can see, non-rate revenue.

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.640
 We have some revenue funding, impact fee funding.

00:41:09.640 --> 00:41:13.200
 This is what I mentioned a couple of slides ago, as we are pulling this money into the

00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:17.280
 operating fund to revenue funds and impact fee eligible projects.

00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.480
 We are using some impact fees to offset debt service of eligible projects, about $3.8 million.

00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.760
 For total resources, about $49 million.

00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.760
 Expenses are $52.9.

00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.580
 You can't see we did planned use of reserves about $3.9 million.

00:41:31.580 --> 00:41:35.120
 At that point, a couple of slides ago, we are currently proposing a 2% rate decrease

00:41:35.120 --> 00:41:36.840
 for the water utility.

00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.040
 And this is a little bit different than what we showed you last year.

00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:43.040
 We had a 2% rate increase in '22 and '23.

00:41:43.040 --> 00:41:47.120
 That was before the water utility and the management staff had gone back and looked at

00:41:47.120 --> 00:41:50.880
 the capacity of the water treatment plant facility.

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.960
 And they plan to do a performance and regulatory upgrade in 2021.

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.840
 And what that project does and why it's so important, it actually pushes that lake expansion

00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.680
 out to the future years.

00:42:00.680 --> 00:42:04.880
 So now you can see the construction of the lake expansion is this increase from this

00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.720
 '11 to '18 is actually out there in '27 and '28.

00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:13.340
 So pushing that lake expansion out, allowing more growth to come into the community has

00:42:13.340 --> 00:42:17.660
 really improved the financial condition of this fund.

00:42:17.660 --> 00:42:22.320
 Moving down the page a little bit further, you can see our operating reserve of $17.7

00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.760
 million.

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.160
 You can see our reserve requirement down here at the bottom.

00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:28.160
 We've shown it like this for several years now.

00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:31.720
 So you can see the minimum is 120 days or 33%.

00:42:31.720 --> 00:42:34.320
 The maximum was 180 days or 50%.

00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:39.940
 So you can see that 17.8 or 17.7 falls within that range.

00:42:39.940 --> 00:42:43.320
 It continues to be in that range in the 10-year forecast.

00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:49.280
 Slightly dropping below out here in the future years, just a couple thousand dollars.

00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.880
 Quick question on that.

00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.120
 On the paper you say it's a reserve target.

00:42:55.120 --> 00:42:58.120
 You said it was a reserve requirement.

00:42:58.120 --> 00:43:02.960
 Is that something imposed by local statute, by state statute?

00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:06.920
 No, this is a reserve target for the water utility.

00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.720
 This target is set by the city utilities and finance department.

00:43:10.720 --> 00:43:14.000
 I will tell you the one thing we're going to be doing this winter is not only looking

00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.260
 at the utilities, but looking at all the funds across the city.

00:43:17.260 --> 00:43:20.720
 So any special revenue fund that the city has, any internal service fund, and what should

00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:23.020
 that reserve be?

00:43:23.020 --> 00:43:28.040
 So hopefully that answers your question, but that is our internal goal is to have that

00:43:28.040 --> 00:43:30.080
 reserve between those reserve requirements.

00:43:30.080 --> 00:43:33.320
 So that is staff's goal?

00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:38.000
 Well, Charlie, I would add that the council does have a, did pass an ordinance adopting

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:39.760
 a fund balance policy.

00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:46.480
 And so within that policy, these targets are included in that ordinance.

00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.520
 Okay.

00:43:48.520 --> 00:43:53.440
 So the city council has approved a target, but it's not a requirement?

00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.280
 Not necessarily a requirement.

00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:03.800
 Many of the bond rating agencies do want to look at the health of these funds.

00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:08.120
 And so generally they want to make sure that we have adequate reserves to meet our operating

00:44:08.120 --> 00:44:13.760
 needs as well as any debts or coverage ratios, which is another measure that's in that financial

00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:14.760
 statement.

00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:15.760
 Okay.

00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.600
 For the record, I'm not against the idea of having a good solid target and being physically

00:44:20.600 --> 00:44:21.600
 stable.

00:44:21.600 --> 00:44:26.440
 I just didn't know whether it was some state imposed requirement or something done by staff,

00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:33.440
 or if city council is the correct, that's great.

00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:34.440
 Correct.

00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.400
 Anybody else have any questions or yes, Nick.

00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:38.400
 Okay.

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.400
 Nick.

00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.400
 I have a question.

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:46.120
 Can you talk about impact fees a little bit and why you budget projects separately for

00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:47.120
 impact fees?

00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:48.120
 You bet.

00:44:48.120 --> 00:44:50.040
 So that's a great question.

00:44:50.040 --> 00:44:55.520
 So the city under when an impact fee study in 2018 in the fall, the winter of 2018, what

00:44:55.520 --> 00:44:59.080
 that study does is it looks at any project that the water wastewater utility will do

00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:04.320
 that's growth related and those projects are deemed impact fee eligible.

00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.760
 There is a consumptive use associated with those projects.

00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:11.240
 What that consumptive use identifies is how much of that asset can we recover over a 10

00:45:11.240 --> 00:45:12.240
 year period?

00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:16.520
 The study takes it a step further and it divides the projects into already completed and will

00:45:16.520 --> 00:45:20.720
 be completed in a 10 year horizon or a 10 year period.

00:45:20.720 --> 00:45:23.880
 So the ones that are completed, of course, we have to fund with debt service.

00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:28.320
 We pull that money into the operating fund to offset that eligible debt service.

00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.120
 Anything that's a future project, we fund that money.

00:45:31.120 --> 00:45:36.460
 We fund that project up front using impact fee revenue funding.

00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:40.080
 Hopefully that addresses your question.

00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:41.720
 I didn't capture it.

00:45:41.720 --> 00:45:44.720
 Define for me what an impact fee is.

00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:47.400
 What exactly is an impact fee?

00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:48.400
 Great question.

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:54.700
 One was to build a house in our community, that is the fee to access to city's water

00:45:54.700 --> 00:45:57.080
 infrastructure or wastewater infrastructure.

00:45:57.080 --> 00:46:01.880
 So to go out there and to tap onto that wastewater line or that water line, the impact fee is

00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:03.620
 that set amount to do that.

00:46:03.620 --> 00:46:08.440
 So it will be charged to that household or charged to that developer.

00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.480
 Okay it's the initial tap fee for one time thing, okay.

00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.240
 Well tap fee and impact fee are two separate things.

00:46:15.240 --> 00:46:18.280
 The water utility does have a tap fee and an impact fee.

00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.860
 So both of those are charged when someone does tap into the system.

00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:24.800
 But yes, there are a tap fee and an impact fee to answer your question.

00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.840
 And the impact fee is paid by the particular user, correct?

00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:30.840
 Yes, sir.

00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:31.840
 It would be a user.

00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:32.840
 Yeah.

00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:40.520
 I have another question about slide 10, your 10 year budget presentation.

00:46:40.520 --> 00:46:43.400
 I think I could share it with the group and Larry correct me if I'm wrong, but I think

00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.360
 I can pull it up and address this question.

00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:56.820
 Okay if you look at the adopted 2020 budget numbers for the capital projects, those numbers

00:46:56.820 --> 00:47:01.720
 match what you estimate you're going to spend in 2020 also.

00:47:01.720 --> 00:47:08.000
 Meaning that the way I read it, you expect to accomplish and spend 100% of what you have

00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.120
 budgeted for those capital items.

00:47:11.120 --> 00:47:15.080
 That's something that has never been done in the last three or four years.

00:47:15.080 --> 00:47:22.640
 And that was the issue what I was getting at in the previous action item question about

00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:30.920
 why is it that we can identify needed projects, budget for them, sell bonds for them, and

00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.300
 then not get the project done.

00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:38.360
 This year, according to the way I read your numbers, you're going to get 100% of the projects

00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.180
 done but that's never been done in the last three or four years.

00:47:42.180 --> 00:47:48.560
 And my question is, what's changed in 2020 compared to the previous years that will allow

00:47:48.560 --> 00:47:55.600
 you to say you're going to get 100% of all these projects done as budgeted?

00:47:55.600 --> 00:47:56.600
 >> It's a great question also.

00:47:56.600 --> 00:48:02.160
 And then Frank, you come up and address the projects getting completed standpoint.

00:48:02.160 --> 00:48:06.380
 From the financial standpoint, right, the 9.3 million Mr. Baffert is talking about is

00:48:06.380 --> 00:48:07.380
 calling out here.

00:48:07.380 --> 00:48:09.280
 This is the revenue funded capital.

00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:13.120
 This represents about one fourth of the water CIP.

00:48:13.120 --> 00:48:17.280
 So entire water CIP is 30 to 40 million.

00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.880
 What we do is we do a couple of different things throughout the year.

00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:25.520
 So the PUB and City Council adopts a budget and that budget may include $30 million in

00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:27.440
 capital projects.

00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:32.640
 Before we actually issue that debt, what we've done in the last few years, staff has taken

00:48:32.640 --> 00:48:35.900
 a look at it and said, okay, what can we complete this fiscal year?

00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:41.200
 So this year, for example, in the 2020 budget, we had 20 to 30 million in the capital plan.

00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:45.000
 Looking back and when Frank and his staff went through those projects, we actually identified

00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.520
 we did not need to issue any of those bond proceeds.

00:48:47.520 --> 00:48:52.040
 But we still do plan to revenue fund some projects as you see called out here.

00:48:52.040 --> 00:48:55.600
 A large portion of this revenue funding are field service replacement jobs.

00:48:55.600 --> 00:48:59.680
 So I noticed Susan asked the question earlier about those, you know, replacements under

00:48:59.680 --> 00:49:01.880
 streets and neighborhoods and such.

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.320
 A large portion of that is this.

00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:08.320
 But I also have a financial slide in a couple of slides, Mr. Bafford, that will hopefully

00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:13.600
 address your capital question a little bit better to kind of show that historical spend

00:49:13.600 --> 00:49:14.600
 down.

00:49:14.600 --> 00:49:18.360
 Three or four years, you're absolutely correct, three or four years ago, the water utility

00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:23.120
 had a large amount of money that was unencumbered and projects were not getting done.

00:49:23.120 --> 00:49:26.800
 I thank staff that here lately, those projects have been getting done and we've actually

00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:30.400
 drawn down on that amount of money available in the water utility.

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.160
 And I'll show that to you shortly in that slide I'm talking about.

00:49:33.160 --> 00:49:36.720
 Does that address your question or has you got more operational questions I can get Frank

00:49:36.720 --> 00:49:37.920
 to come up and address?

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.600
 Oh, I'll look forward to see what you have down the road here.

00:49:42.600 --> 00:49:45.360
 And if it doesn't answer your question, we'll be happy to provide you additional detail

00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:46.360
 down the road.

00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.760
 This is our first attempt to help answer your question.

00:49:49.760 --> 00:50:03.720
 We'll pull it back up if that's okay, Susan.

00:50:03.720 --> 00:50:05.920
 So this is the five-year capital plan.

00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.440
 This isn't the slide to address your question, Mr. Bafford.

00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:14.200
 This is the adopted or what will be considered for adoption by PUV and City Council in the

00:50:14.200 --> 00:50:15.200
 coming months.

00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:20.360
 So you can see in 2021, we have $35.5 million in debt issuance.

00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.920
 Plan projects that we plan to complete in 2021.

00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.400
 Revenue funding, this is coming from the operating fund.

00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:32.680
 So rate revenue, we have about $12.9 or $13 million in project funding.

00:50:32.680 --> 00:50:36.000
 Impact fee funding, which we call it on the five-year forecast, is about $2.7.

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.200
 We have some aid in construction and some fee accord replacement.

00:50:40.200 --> 00:50:45.760
 So total CIP for 2021 is $51.7 million or $51.8.

00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.160
 Over the five-year period, you can see that number is just around $100 million.

00:50:51.160 --> 00:50:54.560
 So I'll get into a detailed discussion about the projects that are getting completed here

00:50:54.560 --> 00:50:55.560
 shortly.

00:50:55.560 --> 00:50:59.840
 But to my earlier point, this would be the amount included in the budget.

00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:04.280
 What staff does before we formally issue this debt in the water utility, we actually do

00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:10.640
 look at our project schedule and what can we complete that fiscal year.

00:51:10.640 --> 00:51:15.200
 So this is the kind of project timeline of some projects we currently have.

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:19.640
 This is not a complete list of everything in the water utility.

00:51:19.640 --> 00:51:24.800
 We did pick out the majority of the larger projects, the ones that we can have that discussion

00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.200
 with you today about.

00:51:26.200 --> 00:51:29.320
 There are several field service replacement projects that are smaller than this that are

00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:30.320
 cash-funded.

00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.520
 But starting at the top, you know, Elm and Locust, you can see the budgeted amount in

00:51:34.520 --> 00:51:36.880
 this column of $950,000.

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.960
 What the expenses are today, what's unencumbered, and the funds remaining.

00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.840
 And then one thing we wanted to provide you is kind of, you know, what was that estimated

00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:49.520
 completion date, which in this project is January 31st of 2020.

00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:53.860
 I'd like to draw your attention to this number down here, this $10.9 million.

00:51:53.860 --> 00:51:58.060
 These projects make up about $10.9 million, about $14 million that's currently unencumbered

00:51:58.060 --> 00:51:59.760
 in the water utility.

00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.520
 Three years ago, that $14 million was about $25 to $30 million.

00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:07.080
 So over the last two or three years, the water utility and Frank and his staff have done

00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:11.280
 a great job getting these projects completed, and we've actually brought that unencumbered

00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.920
 amount down in the water utility.

00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:17.440
 Does anyone have any detailed question on these projects that Frank can come up and address

00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.440
 from a completion standpoint?

00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:27.080
 This looks like it, Nick.

00:52:27.080 --> 00:52:28.080
 Okay.

00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:31.460
 So this is not a complete list.

00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:36.200
 The ordinance will come back to you, Mr. Cheek, as you had said about that detail.

00:52:36.200 --> 00:52:39.560
 Before we ask you to adopt a rate ordinance, you will get a complete red line ordinance

00:52:39.560 --> 00:52:42.520
 that will have all the rate changes identified in it.

00:52:42.520 --> 00:52:46.760
 So looking at the 2% decrease across the water utility, that's the direction we get from

00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:47.760
 the PUB.

00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.500
 For residential, we use a 3/4 inch meter.

00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:55.280
 This is the most common meter size in the residential water utility, and you can see

00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.160
 the current rate that's currently in place is $16.

00:52:58.160 --> 00:53:04.480
 This is the facility charge, but the 2% decrease, this would go to 1568.

00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:09.840
 Our volume charge from zero to 15,000 gallons, and it is charged per 1,000 gallon, it's 415

00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:10.840
 per 1,000.

00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.940
 This would decrease to 407.

00:53:13.940 --> 00:53:17.300
 And then commercial, we use a 2 inch meter, so the facility charge currently in place

00:53:17.300 --> 00:53:22.880
 is 5150, but the 2% decrease would be $50.47.

00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:26.360
 The volume charge for commercial per 1,000 gallon is 445.

00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:27.360
 This would decrease to 436.

00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.840
 There are a couple other rates I wanted to update the PUB on today.

00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.960
 These are contractual agreements that we have for wholesale water agreements that are out

00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:37.960
 there.

00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:41.640
 So the Wholesale Raw Water Service to the Upper Trinity Regional Water District, this

00:53:41.640 --> 00:53:43.460
 is a rate we update every single year.

00:53:43.460 --> 00:53:46.160
 It's currently set at .7401.

00:53:46.160 --> 00:53:52.560
 This rate is 85% of the Dallas wholesale rate, so that rate would go to .7578.

00:53:52.560 --> 00:53:57.400
 And then the pass through Lake Chapman, this is another rate we update.

00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:01.480
 According to the agreement, this one adjusts annually on a CPI adjuster for the month of

00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:02.480
 June.

00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:08.440
 So this rate would increase from .0270 to .0275.

00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.040
 Like I said, this is not an all-inclusive list that will come back to the Public Utility

00:54:13.040 --> 00:54:16.820
 Board in a red line rate ordinance that lists all the rates.

00:54:16.820 --> 00:54:19.840
 What we wanted to show, and we showed this to council last year too, and I think we've

00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:24.580
 historically shown at the PUB in the previous years, this is what an average residential

00:54:24.580 --> 00:54:27.160
 customer could expect to pay in the city of Denton.

00:54:27.160 --> 00:54:29.920
 So at the top, you saw the electric utility last week.

00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:34.280
 We are currently not forecasting any rate changes in that utility.

00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.480
 Water we do based on 9,200 gallons.

00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:43.360
 You can see what a customer would pay in the proposed budget of .5310, which is at 2% decrease.

00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.560
 In wastewater, which you haven't seen this one yet, we're not proposing any rate changes

00:54:46.560 --> 00:54:50.240
 for the wastewater utility, 3,115 would be the rate.

00:54:50.240 --> 00:54:55.760
 And then solid waste, we are currently proposing a $1 decrease for residential customers, which

00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.560
 would take that rate to $20.51.

00:54:58.560 --> 00:55:01.680
 So total is $229.56.

00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:05.000
 So this would be a decrease for the average residential customer of $2.08.

00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:10.180
 A couple of other things, if you do remember, the PUB and city council both approved the

00:55:10.180 --> 00:55:16.520
 mid-year rate decrease last November and December for the residential solid waste customers,

00:55:16.520 --> 00:55:17.520
 the $3.

00:55:17.520 --> 00:55:26.640
 So previously, this rate was $24.51, but you have an asterisk, it is currently $21.51.

00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:31.240
 So this presentation, we'll go to council tomorrow, August the 4th.

00:55:31.240 --> 00:55:34.920
 We do intend to circle back with the PUB in the coming weeks.

00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.040
 The state may change based on our discussion today.

00:55:37.040 --> 00:55:41.040
 So maybe later in August, when we get that detailed information to the public utility

00:55:41.040 --> 00:55:42.040
 board.

00:55:42.040 --> 00:55:45.920
 And then September 15th, the city council is currently scheduled to adopt the budget

00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.680
 and tax rate and the capital plan.

00:55:47.680 --> 00:55:52.080
 And as I previously mentioned, circling back with the public utility board in December

00:55:52.080 --> 00:55:57.680
 of 2020, with that mid-year budget and rate discussion, when we fully understand the impact

00:55:57.680 --> 00:55:59.880
 from the COVID pandemic.

00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:01.400
 And with that, I will pull it down.

00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.680
 That concludes the financial portion of water.

00:56:03.680 --> 00:56:07.760
 I'll turn it back over to Frank to go over the operations for wastewater shortly, if

00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:09.920
 you don't have any questions.

00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:11.960
 Anybody have questions?

00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:17.600
 You're on mute.

00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:19.320
 My apologies.

00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:28.420
 In terms of the rate structure, if you could guesstimate, do you have just kind of a shoot

00:56:28.420 --> 00:56:34.800
 from the hip kind of cost per thousand that it costs you to operate?

00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:42.720
 I mean, is it roughly, you know, $3.75 per thousand, $4 per thousand, $40 per thousand?

00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:45.160
 Mr. Parker, in front of me right now, I do not have that number.

00:56:45.160 --> 00:56:49.840
 I will tell you that that number will is currently being revised in that cost of service study

00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.040
 that will come back to the public utility board in November.

00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:56.240
 But we can look it up based on our current cost of service and I can provide that number

00:56:56.240 --> 00:56:58.240
 to get a follow-up response.

00:56:58.240 --> 00:57:07.760
 Okay, not asking for precision, but is that number in the 30s, the 40s, the 50s, 60s?

00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.880
 The number is close to the number that you see in the presentation.

00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.780
 So every year we do update a cost of service study that looks at the facility charge and

00:57:14.780 --> 00:57:16.840
 looks at the volume charge.

00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:22.760
 But to give you an exact number, I don't have it in front of me right now, Mr. Parker.

00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:27.080
 The intent of the cost of service study is to make sure we just recover our costs and

00:57:27.080 --> 00:57:29.160
 nothing more.

00:57:29.160 --> 00:57:31.680
 That's correct.

00:57:31.680 --> 00:57:32.680
 That's correct.

00:57:32.680 --> 00:57:34.360
 And we do cost of service studies.

00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.840
 Solid waste went through one, I think it was two years ago.

00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.680
 Water and wastewater are both going through one now.

00:57:40.680 --> 00:57:44.600
 And what that cost of service study do, right, it'll give us staff a working model that we

00:57:44.600 --> 00:57:47.320
 can update annually, usually for about a five-year period.

00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.280
 So we update these every five years.

00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:55.440
 We will also, we intend to have a rate discussion and a cost of service discussion with you

00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:57.940
 for the electric utility in November, December this year also.

00:57:57.940 --> 00:58:04.200
 So there'll be four rate discussions for each of the utilities in detail coming up in November,

00:58:04.200 --> 00:58:05.200
 December.

00:58:05.200 --> 00:58:06.200
 Okay.

00:58:06.200 --> 00:58:18.160
 I guess my question was, it looks like, is it $48 per thousand that we have for the top

00:58:18.160 --> 00:58:19.640
 commercial cost?

00:58:19.640 --> 00:58:23.160
 Let me pull it right back up here.

00:58:23.160 --> 00:58:34.320
 Hang on, just bear with me a second, Mr. Parker.

00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:40.360
 Is this the slide you're referring to for the wastewater, for the water rate?

00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.520
 Water rates, probably two behind that, I think.

00:58:42.520 --> 00:58:43.520
 Okay.

00:58:43.520 --> 00:58:44.840
 My memory serves me correct.

00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:48.840
 Slide 13, I believe, there.

00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:49.840
 This one?

00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:50.840
 Okay.

00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.760
 So you're charging $4.45 per thousand.

00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.200
 That's correct.

00:58:56.200 --> 00:59:03.240
 And then for the lowest residential, looks like you're getting $4.15.

00:59:03.240 --> 00:59:08.660
 And I would expect that to be residential being slightly lower, but about the same.

00:59:08.660 --> 00:59:16.680
 What are the top commercial and top residential rates you're using right now?

00:59:16.680 --> 00:59:19.240
 For the highest tier, is that your question?

00:59:19.240 --> 00:59:21.440
 For the low tier, above zero to $15,000.

00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.440
 I can get that for you.

00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:23.440
 Hang on just a second.

00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:24.440
 I have it.

00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:32.560
 Hang on just a second.

00:59:32.560 --> 00:59:48.640
 Mr. Parker.

00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:53.360
 So for commercial service, we actually have a volume charge for inside the city of Denton

00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:54.360
 at $4.45.

00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.840
 So to answer your question, we do currently not have a tier in place.

00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:01.800
 There's a $4.45 charge for commercial customers per thousand gallon.

01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.500
 It's a little bit different.

01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:08.440
 Residential does have a tiered structure to incentivize water conservation.

01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.480
 So what I was showing you is zero to 15,000 gallon.

01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:20.040
 As you step up on the residential water side, over 50,000 gallons would be 415 if you're

01:00:20.040 --> 01:00:21.040
 in the winter.

01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:27.280
 But in the summer, when we're incentivizing that conservation, it goes to $10.90.

01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:36.240
 So right now you're charging large residential users more than double what you charge commercial?

01:00:36.240 --> 01:00:39.560
 For over 50,000 gallons.

01:00:39.560 --> 01:00:42.840
 That is currently the way that the rate ordinance is set up.

01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:48.440
 If you went over 50,000 gallon, your per thousand gallon rate would be $10.90.

01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:49.520
 So to answer your question, yes.

01:00:49.520 --> 01:00:59.560
 If a residential customer did go over 50,000 gallons, it would be double.

01:00:59.560 --> 01:01:09.440
 That seems out of line to me for people who are on semi-agricultural or larger products

01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.760
 or homes.

01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:17.480
 That seems awfully punitive when somebody like, I don't know, Safety Clean, I don't

01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:24.700
 mean to pick on them as an example, is paying less than half of the rate of someone who

01:01:24.700 --> 01:01:29.280
 lives on a large or old residential property.

01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:33.240
 That seems like a very large difference.

01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:37.360
 I certainly understand incentivizing lower usage.

01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:38.600
 That makes sense.

01:01:38.600 --> 01:01:45.560
 But doubling the rate seems a little overly punitive, in my opinion.

01:01:45.560 --> 01:01:50.080
 So Charlie, just a question for you on your comment.

01:01:50.080 --> 01:01:58.760
 Are you saying it's not fair to the residential, whereas commercial residential should be more

01:01:58.760 --> 01:01:59.760
 in line?

01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:03.800
 Or are you saying it's just too much?

01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:04.800
 Yes.

01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:05.800
 I don't understand.

01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:12.280
 It seems, you know, I looked up Gainesville because it's a nearby city.

01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:19.440
 And Gainesville is like 48 per thousand for everybody or for all residential.

01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:25.560
 And Denton has chosen to have a punitive rate for large residential users.

01:02:25.560 --> 01:02:33.480
 It just seems to me that that's a little too high a punitive rate relative to the commercial.

01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:38.440
 The commercial is 48 cents, almost $11 per thousand.

01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:40.440
 Seems pretty punitive.

01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:41.940
 Yeah.

01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:45.160
 So I'll comment on that, and I think this is the philosophy.

01:02:45.160 --> 01:02:54.320
 I'm putting words in mixed mouth here, but the commercial user is using that for manufacturing

01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.020
 or whatever purposes it may be.

01:02:57.020 --> 01:03:03.400
 And so they're using that water to do their business, whereas the residential is doing

01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:07.360
 to be somebody overwatering a major amount, I would assume.

01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.440
 And the philosophy is you're trying to sell water to the commercial user, but we're trying

01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:16.160
 to promote saving water to the residential user.

01:03:16.160 --> 01:03:17.400
 Is that correct, Nate?

01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:18.400
 Yes, Mr. Jake.

01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:19.400
 That is correct.

01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:25.760
 That is for over irrigation that this incentivizes people to over irrigate their yards.

01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:31.000
 And one other thing, Mr. Parker, I was trying to find you on the screen here really quick.

01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.540
 So the over $50,000 is going from the incremental amount.

01:03:34.540 --> 01:03:37.720
 So anything over $50,000 would be charged at that $1090.

01:03:37.720 --> 01:03:40.360
 Anything under the other rate would still apply.

01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:43.200
 So let's make sure I clarify that really quick.

01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:47.080
 So anything leading up that $50,000 -- sorry, Susan.

01:03:47.080 --> 01:03:51.200
 No, $50,000 in a residential is a lot of water.

01:03:51.200 --> 01:03:52.200
 Yeah.

01:03:52.200 --> 01:03:53.200
 Agreed.

01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:54.200
 A lot of water.

01:03:54.200 --> 01:03:59.640
 And won't this be addressed when we do the cost of service study again, because we do

01:03:59.640 --> 01:04:01.720
 it by class?

01:04:01.720 --> 01:04:02.720
 Yeah.

01:04:02.720 --> 01:04:03.720
 Yeah.

01:04:03.720 --> 01:04:07.800
 And our full intent is to have the consultant here to help us address these questions with

01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:09.400
 the Public Utility Board.

01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:15.320
 Staff will have a presentation that will be detailed to go through these rates in a full

01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:16.320
 presentation.

01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.240
 And you can look at each one of them separately and ask those questions.

01:04:19.240 --> 01:04:20.240
 Absolutely.

01:04:20.240 --> 01:04:21.240
 And this is Tony.

01:04:21.240 --> 01:04:23.480
 And that will be in November.

01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:25.960
 We'll have that ready for you in work session.

01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:26.960
 Russ.

01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.080
 Yes, I have a question about Hunter coal.

01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:35.880
 I believe you said you incorporated those numbers in beginning 2024 into your budget

01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:37.800
 figures.

01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:41.720
 My question is, how did you phase that in?

01:04:41.720 --> 01:04:47.040
 Obviously, in 2024, Hunter coal is not going to be 100% built.

01:04:47.040 --> 01:04:49.720
 You would probably phase that in over a period of years.

01:04:49.720 --> 01:04:52.120
 What kind of assumptions did you make there?

01:04:52.120 --> 01:04:54.280
 That's a great question.

01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:57.040
 And Frank can definitely give us a little more detail on that.

01:04:57.040 --> 01:05:00.520
 But the city did contract with a consultant to come in to look at the Hunter coal ranch

01:05:00.520 --> 01:05:01.520
 development.

01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:05.080
 What the consultant did, they did look at the phased in approach to that development.

01:05:05.080 --> 01:05:07.640
 So starting near 2024, you're absolutely correct.

01:05:07.640 --> 01:05:12.180
 There's not 100% of those residents in commercial businesses going to be built at once.

01:05:12.180 --> 01:05:14.000
 So this is a phased in approach.

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.880
 So there is some showing up in 2024, but it's minimum in the total size of that development.

01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.160
 So it is not everything at once.

01:05:21.160 --> 01:05:26.760
 It is just what that study identified as being online and needing water service or wastewater

01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:30.360
 service starting in 2024.

01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:37.400
 I would think you could maybe present that in one table with years in the dollar amount

01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:43.000
 per year contribution to the budget or demand on the budget.

01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.560
 Yeah, we can we can summarize that for you, Mr. Bafford.

01:05:46.560 --> 01:05:48.880
 All right, I think we need to move on.

01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:56.960
 Okay, one quick question, I'm sorry, what, Nick, what's the hydrants estimate for charges

01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.240
 going to be?

01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:05.200
 I haven't, Mr. Sheik, I don't have the hydrants in front of me right now and what that what

01:06:05.200 --> 01:06:07.060
 the new rate will be.

01:06:07.060 --> 01:06:10.120
 For today's presentation, we went through and looked at the 2% decrease for residential

01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:11.120
 commercial.

01:06:11.120 --> 01:06:15.040
 But that will come back with you at that red line ordinance and you can look at it in detail.

01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:18.280
 And then it's 15 to 20 pages, so it'll have all the rates outlined for you.

01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:19.280
 Great.

01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:20.760
 Thank you.

01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:37.920
 Okay, with that, I will turn it back over to Frank to go through wastewater.

01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:38.920
 Thank you, Nick.

01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:48.560
 Madam Chair, PUP member, Frank Pugsley, Water and Wastewater Utilities Director, back with

01:06:48.560 --> 01:06:49.560
 you again.

01:06:49.560 --> 01:06:50.560
 Skip ahead here.

01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:51.560
 Where are we, Nick?

01:06:51.560 --> 01:06:52.560
 There we go.

01:06:52.560 --> 01:06:53.560
 Wastewater utilities.

01:06:53.560 --> 01:06:54.680
 Excuse me.

01:06:54.680 --> 01:06:59.440
 And I may repeat a few of the things I said earlier, just in case there are new people

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.160
 listening to the wastewater presentation.

01:07:01.160 --> 01:07:02.160
 So please excuse me.

01:07:02.160 --> 01:07:05.080
 I'll still try to keep some of those brief.

01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:10.240
 Again, some accomplishments and future goals, taking a little retrospective on the wastewater

01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:11.480
 department.

01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:16.880
 This past fiscal year, we did complete the requirements of our EPA administrative order,

01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:20.680
 which essentially required us to reduce sanitary sewer overflows.

01:07:20.680 --> 01:07:26.880
 We've very successfully done that through our extensive cleaning and maintenance programs.

01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:32.880
 And we are getting very close to completing the Hickory Creek lift station replacement.

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:37.760
 You discussed it earlier a little bit about the root cause analysis for those failures.

01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:43.120
 We've had significant issues with that facility over the last two years or so.

01:07:43.120 --> 01:07:48.120
 We have a permanent tip-ray solution in place right now, and the new lift station will be

01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:50.540
 online later this year.

01:07:50.540 --> 01:07:54.840
 And we should be in good shape there for quite a while.

01:07:54.840 --> 01:08:00.620
 Some of our future goals are to complete the design of the phase one of the Pecan Creek

01:08:00.620 --> 01:08:04.720
 Wastewater Treatment Plant expansion, and that's to handle general growth in the city,

01:08:04.720 --> 01:08:09.600
 as well as some of the increases we expect from the Hunter and Cole Ranch.

01:08:09.600 --> 01:08:16.360
 And to prepare an extensively updated wastewater collection system master plan that will help

01:08:16.360 --> 01:08:20.600
 guide us in our capital improvement plans moving forward.

01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:25.600
 Again, philosophical changes, we have worked diligently over the last 12 to 18 months to

01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:30.120
 really focus on improving the culture in our department, break down the silos, and make

01:08:30.120 --> 01:08:36.160
 sure all of our staff are comfortable functioning together, working with other departments from

01:08:36.160 --> 01:08:41.440
 tech services, public works, capital projects, so that we can be our most efficient selves

01:08:41.440 --> 01:08:45.960
 at the city of Denton, and innovative planning and cost savings.

01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:52.400
 We are conducting a capacity expansion at Pecan Creek Water Treatment Plant, or Wastewater

01:08:52.400 --> 01:08:57.820
 Recovery Plant, Wastewater Treatment Plant, by doing some improvements to existing processes,

01:08:57.820 --> 01:09:03.440
 no actual physical expansions to volumes at the plant, we're doing this with a chemically

01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:08.480
 enhanced primary treatment process, and we're going to step into it in phases.

01:09:08.480 --> 01:09:12.520
 The first phase I mentioned is one of our goals for this year, is to expand the solids

01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:20.360
 handling program, then we will expand the filtration capacity and then implement the

01:09:20.360 --> 01:09:22.940
 stepped process itself.

01:09:22.940 --> 01:09:28.120
 And again, our asset management program that the software package we use to assign a score

01:09:28.120 --> 01:09:31.840
 to every pipe in the city so that we know we're replacing the right pipes at the right

01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:36.920
 time and also using those scores to collaborate with the streets department and tie those

01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:41.840
 together with their street condition index so we make sure we're building the right CIP

01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:44.100
 projects for the city.

01:09:44.100 --> 01:09:51.640
 The operational data for wastewater collection, we intend to complete CCTV inspection of 120,000

01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:56.800
 linear feet of wastewater lines, gravity lines this year, as well as complete cleaning of

01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:02.800
 675,000 feet, and those goals carry forward to the next year.

01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.520
 Our major maintenance, the replacement of aging infrastructure, again, I'll touch on

01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:11.320
 a little bit, but historically we haven't outsourced much replacement, and through the

01:10:11.320 --> 01:10:16.300
 collaboration with the street program and our asset management system, we've reset our

01:10:16.300 --> 01:10:20.880
 minimum replacement to 24,000 linear feet a year.

01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:27.640
 This year, we will hit about 37, 38,000 linear feet and intend to make 40,000 linear feet

01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:33.000
 of major maintenance replacements next year, and again, we'll use that outsourcing to ramp

01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:38.880
 up and ramp down our replacement so that we can meet that 24,000 linear foot goal, because

01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:43.560
 we can turn, again, outsourcing on and off, but we can't turn on and off our crews for

01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.720
 emergency response in towns.

01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:49.920
 We want to make sure we keep our guys who work for the city fully utilized and we can

01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:56.600
 use outside contractors to fill in the gaps where we need.

01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:02.480
 Our employee summary for the wastewater department, we began the year with 125 full-time employees

01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:04.160
 on the books.

01:11:04.160 --> 01:11:10.680
 We ended up with 31 vacancies through unfilled positions and the VSP departures.

01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:16.800
 We were approved to refill 18 of those, leaving us with 112 FTEs today and carrying into next

01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:22.480
 fiscal year, so that estimated salary savings brings us almost $2 million, $990,000 in salary

01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:26.880
 savings, and you'll see the positions that were eliminated from the budget in the bulleted

01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:31.240
 list, and again, we've done all this with really no reductions in level of service,

01:11:31.240 --> 01:11:36.840
 and we've done that through efficiently reallocating some of the responsibilities as well as those

01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:42.240
 partnerships and cooperation with other departments, so we make sure we are being as efficient

01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:45.800
 as practical.

01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:50.920
 In the org chart, you'll remember, of course, Ken Banks, our general manager of utilities,

01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:56.840
 his six direct reports, and each one of our functional responsibilities, and again, just

01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:02.160
 in case someone new is listening, the Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center, that educational

01:12:02.160 --> 01:12:07.160
 programming and sustainable schools initiative program, is going to be transferred to the

01:12:07.160 --> 01:12:14.000
 parks department, and Gary Packin will definitely discuss more of that with everyone in the

01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:15.920
 future during their presentations.

01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:23.960
 With that, I will open it up to operational questions.

01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:24.960
 >> Any questions?

01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.160
 >> Yeah, I forget.

01:12:27.160 --> 01:12:34.840
 On slide number four, on infrastructure replacements, there's three columns, there's three columns

01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:38.020
 on slide number four, all of which are labeled 2019.

01:12:38.020 --> 01:12:44.320
 >> Hang on, let me go back there.

01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:45.320
 >> Maybe incorrect.

01:12:45.320 --> 01:12:46.320
 >> Oh, yeah.

01:12:46.320 --> 01:12:47.320
 >> Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

01:12:47.320 --> 01:12:48.320
 Yes, that's a typo.

01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:49.320
 It should be '17, '18, '19.

01:12:49.320 --> 01:12:50.320
 >> Okay.

01:12:50.320 --> 01:12:51.320
 >> Yes, sir.

01:12:51.320 --> 01:12:52.320
 >> Any other questions?

01:12:52.320 --> 01:12:57.320
 Let me switch so I can see your hands.

01:12:57.320 --> 01:12:58.320
 All right.

01:12:58.320 --> 01:12:59.320
 Greenwich.

01:12:59.320 --> 01:13:02.020
 >> Thank you very much.

01:13:02.020 --> 01:13:04.200
 I will hand it back over to Nick.

01:13:04.200 --> 01:13:06.600
 >> Susan, this is Tony.

01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:09.520
 I just wanted to just bring your attention to the time.

01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:10.520
 >> Yes.

01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:22.320
 >> Thank you, Frank.

01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:27.520
 Actually really quick, Daniel Kramer is going to come up and go through drainage.

01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:32.400
 Once Daniel gets through drainage, I'll go through the financials for both.

01:13:32.400 --> 01:13:37.320
 So let me turn it over to Daniel really quick.

01:13:37.320 --> 01:13:41.800
 >> Good morning, Daniel.

01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:48.680
 >> Good morning, Madam Chair, PUB members, it's Daniel Kramer, Deputy Director of Operations

01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:49.680
 for Public Works.

01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:52.560
 I'll be here talking about our drainage department.

01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:57.600
 A few of our accomplishments and future goals that we've had for the past year, we've had

01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:00.240
 multiple projects we've been able to complete.

01:14:00.240 --> 01:14:06.680
 We did hit our goal of 25% of drainage inlands inspected over the past year.

01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:11.200
 Some of our future goals we'll be working towards is going for a full inspect and grade

01:14:11.200 --> 01:14:14.400
 of our existing storm drain systems.

01:14:14.400 --> 01:14:18.320
 Currently right now we do know the sizes and the capacity of our systems, but with some

01:14:18.320 --> 01:14:22.280
 of the neighborhood failures and stuff that we've seen recently in some of the storm drains,

01:14:22.280 --> 01:14:26.560
 we're looking at getting a CCTV out throughout them so we can actually get a good grade on

01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:31.120
 them, similar to what we use for our streets and our OCI.

01:14:31.120 --> 01:14:35.160
 Also working on public awareness for our departments and making sure that everybody understands

01:14:35.160 --> 01:14:40.840
 exactly what the drainage department does, because right now I think a lot of it is just

01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:44.120
 what happens when there's an emergency and not what we do, normal maintenance and keeping

01:14:44.120 --> 01:14:45.560
 stuff up.

01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:47.680
 We're also working with our capital projects.

01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:51.680
 We're going to work with engineering to reevaluate the whole capital program for drainage and

01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:56.640
 make sure that we are all on the same page when it comes to the overall drainage plan

01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.520
 for the city.

01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:06.080
 Some of the service level changes that we've had here pre and post COVID.

01:15:06.080 --> 01:15:12.140
 Every year we're going to continue our 100% inspection of our concrete line channels.

01:15:12.140 --> 01:15:15.800
 We make sure we go through those every single year to make sure everything's flowing correctly

01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:17.880
 just in case we have any weather events.

01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:22.720
 Our earthen channels, we had ramped up last year with the addition of a new inspection

01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:24.080
 crew.

01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:28.760
 That will actually drop as I'll go through with our FTEs on how we had some changes with

01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:34.800
 COVID, how it affected us with our VSP and also some other people leaving throughout

01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:36.440
 the department.

01:15:36.440 --> 01:15:42.600
 And as I said before, we did hit our 25 inspection of inlets over the past year.

01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:45.520
 Post COVID, like I said, we'll continue with our concrete channels.

01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:49.720
 Our earthen channels will just be down to the major earthen channels that we inspect

01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:54.160
 every year, and the rest of them will be on an as-needed basis.

01:15:54.160 --> 01:15:59.640
 And our inlet inspection will drop a little bit to 10%.

01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:05.840
 Some of the operational data as we've been going through this past year, we mow roughly

01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:10.940
 155 acres, and we do try to hit four cycles per year.

01:16:10.940 --> 01:16:14.000
 And currently we're on goal to hit that for this year.

01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:21.960
 Lane miles swept, we do roughly about 10 cycles per year, about 770 lane miles.

01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:27.920
 Now that comes up, as you can see on the goal, it actually is 7,800, but the 77 lane miles

01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.720
 swept does not include our thoroughfares, which we do every Friday, which is around

01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:36.280
 the square Elm and Locust, that we do hit those on Fridays.

01:16:36.280 --> 01:16:41.760
 And our concrete channel inspection, we're still already had those full inspection for

01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:46.440
 this year, and so we'll be good on that.

01:16:46.440 --> 01:16:53.960
 As said with our FTEs, we did lose actually our drainage manager and supervisor, and also

01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:58.660
 one of our heavy equipment operators to the VSP this past year.

01:16:58.660 --> 01:17:03.200
 We did refill, instead of refilling both the manager and the supervisor, we refilled the

01:17:03.200 --> 01:17:09.840
 supervisor position, and we're going to leave the manager position vacant for the time being.

01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:17.620
 And we also did refill the heavy equipment operator.

01:17:17.620 --> 01:17:23.200
 For the organizational chart, we did go through, as you can see, we pretty much lost the entire

01:17:23.200 --> 01:17:25.840
 crew that we did add last year for inspection.

01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:28.480
 That's why our inspection numbers have gone down.

01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:32.760
 We are looking at different ways to move forward to be more efficient, and how we can use our

01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:38.880
 personnel the best way and focus towards maintenance going forward.

01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:39.880
 Any questions?

01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:40.880
 I have one.

01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:41.880
 Billy.

01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:42.880
 Daniel, it's Billy Chief.

01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:43.880
 Mr. Chief.

01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:44.880
 Hey.

01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:53.280
 One thing that you kind of touched on a little bit about your grading, and I tell you, I've

01:17:53.280 --> 01:18:01.520
 noticed a tremendous difference the past few years in the way the city drains for the better.

01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:10.680
 It seems like the downstream grading and clearing of brush and debris and the open ditches wasn't

01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:11.680
 being done very well.

01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:16.840
 Now it looks really good, so you guys are doing a great job keeping this water moving,

01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.800
 because there's been a lot of it.

01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:20.800
 Well thank you, sir, Mr. Chief.

01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:26.680
 We have been working to make sure that we focus on our maintenance as much as possible,

01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:31.320
 and also with the multiple large scale CIP projects they have been doing in drainage

01:18:31.320 --> 01:18:33.080
 that's helped out a lot also.

01:18:33.080 --> 01:18:34.600
 Good stuff.

01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:36.600
 Other questions?

01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:37.600
 Okay.

01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.600
 Nick's back up.

01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:42.600
 Thank you.

01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:46.600
 I'm back.

01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:52.800
 Thank you, Daniel.

01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:56.720
 As a reminder, for any PB members, I think everybody's aware of this.

01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:01.280
 Drainage is part of the wastewater fund, so we do present drainage separately, but it

01:19:01.280 --> 01:19:03.400
 does roll up ultimately into the wastewater fund.

01:19:03.400 --> 01:19:08.080
 I'll show that to you here shortly in the forecast also.

01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:14.080
 So similar to the water utility, we are forecasting 2% growth in forecasted revenues for wastewater.

01:19:14.080 --> 01:19:18.080
 We are continuing to utilize impact fee funding just like we do in water in the wastewater

01:19:18.080 --> 01:19:19.760
 fund.

01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.000
 We have 3% growth forecast in the out years for expenses.

01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.840
 Here's that hunter coal ranch development is accounted for in the wastewater utility

01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:29.680
 in the financial picture as it is for water.

01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:34.760
 And then rates, we are currently forecasting no rate changes for the wastewater utility.

01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:40.440
 So the 10-year forecast, so in an effort to increase transparency, we've historically

01:19:40.440 --> 01:19:42.040
 showed the 5-year forecast.

01:19:42.040 --> 01:19:45.520
 We started showing the 10-year forecast in utilities to kind of give you that long-range

01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:48.240
 forecast what the utility looks like.

01:19:48.240 --> 01:19:50.400
 Similar to water, I'll start in the 2020 column.

01:19:50.400 --> 01:19:51.920
 You can see the adopted budget here.

01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.680
 We had $1.6 million in reserve usage for the wastewater utility.

01:19:55.680 --> 01:20:01.440
 End of your forecast, we are coming in just about budget, a little bit under about $1.9

01:20:01.440 --> 01:20:02.440
 million.

01:20:02.440 --> 01:20:06.280
 Similar to water, we're currently accounting for some COVID impact in the wastewater utility

01:20:06.280 --> 01:20:07.280
 of $389,000.

01:20:07.280 --> 01:20:13.240
 One of the intents of circling back in December is to help quantify this amount and true this

01:20:13.240 --> 01:20:17.360
 amount up as we receive that data back from customer service.

01:20:17.360 --> 01:20:21.760
 So finishing the year, you can see we've got about $13.3 million in reserves in the wastewater

01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:22.760
 utility.

01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:28.320
 Moving forward in the proposed budget column in 2021, you can see rate revenue right in

01:20:28.320 --> 01:20:33.360
 here is $30.5 million, non-rate revenue of $2.3.

01:20:33.360 --> 01:20:37.520
 Impact fee funding of $500,000 is a little bit less in the wastewater utility.

01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:43.240
 We don't have any minimum amount of eligible impact fee projects scheduled to be done next

01:20:43.240 --> 01:20:44.840
 year that can be revenue funded.

01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:49.920
 We're using about $3.7 impact funding to offset eligible debt.

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.840
 No usage of reserves is forecasted in 2021.

01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:57.240
 We actually do show a little bit of profit at $292,000.

01:20:57.240 --> 01:20:59.520
 You can see the 0% here in the green.

01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:02.120
 Ending fund balance at $13.4.

01:21:02.120 --> 01:21:06.520
 Here's that reserve requirement or reserve target for the wastewater fund, so a minimum

01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:11.680
 of $10.3 with the top in $14.4.

01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:17.440
 Going out into the future years, the wastewater utility does get a little bit below the minimum

01:21:17.440 --> 01:21:23.000
 reserve requirement starting in fiscal year 2029, so you can see in '29 and 2030, we're

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:27.680
 a little bit below the minimum target, but I do want to point out this 10-year forecast

01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.760
 has no rate increases within a 10-year period.

01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:34.240
 So that may be something we had to circle back with the public utility board in the

01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:35.240
 future.

01:21:35.240 --> 01:21:38.240
 We'll keep you updated.

01:21:38.240 --> 01:21:45.680
 So the five-year capital plan for the wastewater fund, so in 2021, the proposed budget, $32.8

01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:52.600
 million in planned projects, 5.3 in revenue funding, 500,000 impact fee funding.

01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:57.840
 You can see some aid in construction of $82,000 and vehicle replacement of $1.2 million.

01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.680
 So the grand total is $40 million, and as previously said, the wastewater utility will

01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:04.000
 not automatically issue the $32.8 million.

01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:08.160
 Staff will go through and look at the projects that are slated to be completed and what is

01:22:08.160 --> 01:22:15.160
 the need of the wastewater utility as far as bond proceeds.

01:22:15.160 --> 01:22:18.820
 Same slide we showed in water, so we picked out the major projects within wastewater.

01:22:18.820 --> 01:22:23.000
 This does exclude some of the field service replacement projects that are revenue funded.

01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:28.240
 At the very top, similar to water, you can see Elm and Locust in the budget of $92,000,

01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:32.420
 for example, with the completion date of 131 in 2020.

01:22:32.420 --> 01:22:38.120
 So all of these projects currently make up about $15.9 million in remaining funding that

01:22:38.120 --> 01:22:40.120
 is out there for these projects.

01:22:40.120 --> 01:22:42.800
 I do want to point out that Frank and his staff, just like in water, have done a great

01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.540
 job in wastewater in the last two or three years of really utilizing the existing funding

01:22:46.540 --> 01:22:50.760
 that is out there in these projects, looking at what needs to be completed, and from a

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:56.080
 financial standpoint, really done a good job of looking at minimizing any bond issuances

01:22:56.080 --> 01:23:02.680
 that are not required for the projects that are currently slated to be completed.

01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:07.400
 The drainage forecast, this is a component of the tenure that you just saw.

01:23:07.400 --> 01:23:10.800
 We've just separated out here for transparency reasons.

01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:18.000
 So for 2021, you can see planned revenue of $5.4 million, and this is made up of drainage

01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:22.680
 fees in the community, residential drainage fees, and non-residential, so commercial.

01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:27.720
 So one's $1.9 and one's $3.1 for a total of $5.4, with some miscellaneous revenue added

01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:28.720
 in there.

01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.920
 And the expense budget, to support Daniel's budget that he just came up here and presented

01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:34.960
 to you is about $5.4 million.

01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:40.320
 We do segregate $1 million in reserves for the drainage fund, and this is a component

01:23:40.320 --> 01:23:42.200
 of wastewater.

01:23:42.200 --> 01:23:49.080
 This is the utility rates file that I showed you before, so you can see the overall decrease

01:23:49.080 --> 01:23:54.400
 for residential customers of $2.08, with that mid-year rate reduction for residential customers

01:23:54.400 --> 01:24:01.140
 of $3, so from $24.51 to $21.51.

01:24:01.140 --> 01:24:05.320
 Kind of the steps forward, so tomorrow, council will review this presentation with the rest

01:24:05.320 --> 01:24:06.320
 of the utilities.

01:24:06.320 --> 01:24:10.440
 They have already seen electric, but they have not seen water, wastewater, and solid

01:24:10.440 --> 01:24:11.440
 waste.

01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:15.000
 On the August 10th date, the state will more likely change based on the discussion of PV

01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:16.000
 todays.

01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.920
 We'll come back later in August to seek your approval.

01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:23.560
 City council approval of the budget is September 15th, with that detailed budget and rate discussion

01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:29.000
 and cost of service discussion in November-December timeframe.

01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.280
 That concludes the wastewater and drainage presentations.

01:24:31.280 --> 01:24:34.280
 I'll pull it down for questions.

01:24:34.280 --> 01:24:37.800
 All right, Nick, no questions.

01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:48.920
 I will ask Brian Burner to come up and present the operational information for solid waste.

01:24:48.920 --> 01:25:01.360
 Well, good morning, Madam Chair, members of the committee.

01:25:01.360 --> 01:25:02.360
 My name is Brian Burner.

01:25:02.360 --> 01:25:05.720
 I'm the director of environmental, excuse me, I'm the director of solid waste for the

01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:06.720
 city of Denton.

01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:13.360
 Appreciate the opportunity to run through our 2021 operational budget and capital program.

01:25:13.360 --> 01:25:18.880
 This last year has been a tremendous year for the department in and of itself.

01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:20.680
 We've had several major accomplishments.

01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:27.680
 We've implemented the downtown trash, valet trash recycling program to much acclaim.

01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:32.040
 We have started our new yard waste program, and currently we have about 22% of our residential

01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:34.720
 customers actually signed up for that.

01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:39.340
 And as a result of the implementation of this program, we've actually seen a significant

01:25:39.340 --> 01:25:43.400
 reduction in worker compensation claims due to yard waste collection.

01:25:43.400 --> 01:25:48.280
 So knock on wood, we have not had any employees injured as a result of yard waste collections

01:25:48.280 --> 01:25:49.280
 in this year.

01:25:49.280 --> 01:25:54.280
 So outstanding program there.

01:25:54.280 --> 01:26:01.480
 Based on the improvements of our collection fleet, uptime is significant.

01:26:01.480 --> 01:26:07.040
 And as a result, downtime repairs, maintenance has fallen off significantly.

01:26:07.040 --> 01:26:13.080
 So we thank you for helping us move forward in those improvements.

01:26:13.080 --> 01:26:16.800
 As we look into next year, one of the things that we are currently working on, and hopefully

01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:21.240
 you will see very shortly, is a contract to implement the comprehensive solid waste management

01:26:21.240 --> 01:26:22.240
 strategy.

01:26:22.240 --> 01:26:30.080
 What we want to try to do again is to identify programs and plans and possibly impediments

01:26:30.080 --> 01:26:38.600
 to implementing a solid waste program that is beneficial to the entire community as well

01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:42.100
 as cost effective and sustainable as we move forward.

01:26:42.100 --> 01:26:44.720
 So that contract should be coming forward.

01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:50.240
 We're working to replace our scale house software asset and routing software systems so we can

01:26:50.240 --> 01:26:55.640
 improve accuracy and modify or modernize our operation.

01:26:55.640 --> 01:27:00.640
 We continue to work in education outreach, trying to recycle right and to reduce contamination

01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:03.880
 in our recycling collections.

01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:07.360
 So as a result, we've got a tremendous amount of effort ahead of us.

01:27:07.360 --> 01:27:12.120
 Again, at the end of the day, we are trying to provide exceptional value to our community

01:27:12.120 --> 01:27:14.200
 with the programs that we provide.

01:27:14.200 --> 01:27:18.920
 A couple of service level changes I would like to identify.

01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:24.840
 During COVID, unlike a lot of or several cities in the state of Texas as well as across the

01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:31.120
 nation, we were able to continue providing the same level of service with no downsizing.

01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:36.080
 So again, I would like to commend all the drivers, our supervisors, our managers working

01:27:36.080 --> 01:27:41.480
 diligently and safely throughout these past few months to be able to remain on the road,

01:27:41.480 --> 01:27:45.720
 be able to service our citizens, and again, not impact the level of service that we have

01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:49.720
 been providing.

01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:55.480
 In this post-COVID and operational period, a couple things have changed though.

01:27:55.480 --> 01:28:00.400
 While we continue to collect home chemical collections on a curbside basis, we have temporarily

01:28:00.400 --> 01:28:07.220
 closed our in-person drop off as well as a reuse store to minimize public exposure.

01:28:07.220 --> 01:28:09.060
 We are not accepting cash at our scale house.

01:28:09.060 --> 01:28:11.280
 We are credit and debit card only.

01:28:11.280 --> 01:28:13.320
 We're increasing training protocols.

01:28:13.320 --> 01:28:16.760
 We're putting in place worker safety issues.

01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:23.080
 As a result, we are providing and one additional outreach aspect, our scale house staff is

01:28:23.080 --> 01:28:26.920
 providing assistance to beneficial reuse in the downer customer sales.

01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:31.960
 We're able to, I don't want to say double dip, but again, maximize the use of the effort

01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.360
 that we currently have in our solid waste scale house.

01:28:35.360 --> 01:28:41.640
 From an operational standpoint, we continue to identify customer growth as we move forward.

01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:48.460
 Dave Denton is sort of at the top of the DFW area.

01:28:48.460 --> 01:28:51.840
 Growth is coming our way, and we can see that from a residential standpoint.

01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:56.880
 In 2021, we estimate that by the end of that year, we're going to be servicing slightly

01:28:56.880 --> 01:29:01.760
 over 35,500 residential customers.

01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:06.760
 Our yard waste program remains level, so everything that we're picking up off the curb and delivering

01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:10.720
 to the landfill across the scales, it's remaining consistent.

01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:13.640
 So that's a good number.

01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:18.880
 One of the big increases that we're going to see and one of our supplemental packages,

01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:21.360
 our commercial containers haul, it continues to improve.

01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:28.160
 So our business community continues to grow and remain vibrant throughout this operational

01:29:28.160 --> 01:29:29.200
 season.

01:29:29.200 --> 01:29:33.720
 With our valet trash recycling fully implemented, we have 131 customers in the downtown and

01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:35.360
 forestry areas.

01:29:35.360 --> 01:29:39.640
 And if you've been in these areas after the implementation of our valet service, you'll

01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:47.360
 notice that in addition to providing additional parking resources in these areas, the appearance

01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:48.600
 has improved.

01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:52.720
 We've seen a significant increase in the quality of recyclables that we are collecting from

01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:57.600
 this area, as well as created a communication conduit with the business owners and the community

01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:58.980
 in this area.

01:29:58.980 --> 01:30:02.040
 So it's beneficial on many tiers.

01:30:02.040 --> 01:30:09.360
 Significantly, also, our wholesale volumes as a result of our contracts with our private

01:30:09.360 --> 01:30:15.520
 providers has jumped in '19 and then in '20, but you'll notice that in '22, '23, those

01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:19.760
 contracts end and there's anticipated to be a significant drop-off.

01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:25.760
 In this next year, 2021, we anticipate a little over 200,000 tons coming into the landfill

01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:28.600
 from third-party sources.

01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:33.400
 Across the scales, we see a significant increase of retail volumes also.

01:30:33.400 --> 01:30:40.840
 These are the residents as well as the business community that are paying gate rates to bring

01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:43.080
 material into the landfill.

01:30:43.080 --> 01:30:48.300
 With the closure of DFW landfill in Lewisville, as well as the significant growth that we're

01:30:48.300 --> 01:30:53.280
 seeing in the North Texas area, this is not unexpected, but again, the growth is significant.

01:30:53.280 --> 01:30:57.680
 One of the things I would like to point out here is this compaction density.

01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:08.000
 Currently, we're almost, in FY19-20, we averaged about 1,156 pounds per cubic yard.

01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:13.840
 With changes in equipment and operational standards, we're hoping to increase that to a little

01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:17.760
 over 1,200 pound per cubic yard.

01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.240
 What this means is we're putting a lot more trash in a lot smaller area.

01:31:21.240 --> 01:31:27.640
 As a result, the increases that we've made from last year into this year actually compensate

01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:31.560
 for the increased wholesale volumes that we've been getting in, so we're really net zero

01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:36.640
 in the amount of space that we anticipated using in this past year, even though we took

01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:40.200
 more tonnage into the facility.

01:31:40.200 --> 01:31:48.360
 From a personal standpoint, we started the year with 126 FTEs.

01:31:48.360 --> 01:31:58.640
 Over the year, we had 14 vacant due to the VSP program, as well as resignations and the

01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:02.080
 positions that we had been keeping open through salary savings.

01:32:02.080 --> 01:32:04.920
 We've been approved and refilled 11 of those.

01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:10.120
 Currently, we're going to give back three positions, a solid waste analyst, the supervisor

01:32:10.120 --> 01:32:14.400
 of our household hazardous waste, our home chemical collection facility, as well as the

01:32:14.400 --> 01:32:17.680
 assistant collections manager in solid waste.

01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:23.800
 In 2021, we'll be proposing 123 FTEs in solid waste.

01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:27.040
 Organization, again, we're fairly flat.

01:32:27.040 --> 01:32:30.600
 We have deputy director that manages the operations section.

01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:35.160
 We have a site operations manager, which manages our maintenance, as well as runs our home

01:32:35.160 --> 01:32:36.960
 chemical collection facility.

01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:41.920
 From an administrative standpoint, we have a manager that handles resource management,

01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:45.480
 as well as oversees our solid waste station.

01:32:45.480 --> 01:32:49.120
 And then we have an analysis section that works with business development, as well as

01:32:49.120 --> 01:32:54.480
 applications and software upgrades to the system.

01:32:54.480 --> 01:33:04.680
 From a supplemental standpoint, we're looking at an addition of about $731,000 in this next

01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:05.760
 year.

01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:09.480
 With the growth, as I stated previously, of our commercial collection, we're in need of

01:33:09.480 --> 01:33:11.440
 an additional roll-off truck.

01:33:11.440 --> 01:33:17.120
 This service is open tops on construction sites, as well as compactors around businesses

01:33:17.120 --> 01:33:18.760
 and educational facilities.

01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:24.520
 So currently, we're short and relying on rental vehicles.

01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:29.160
 So the addition of this roll-off truck will ease some pressure there.

01:33:29.160 --> 01:33:33.200
 In addition, with the expansion of our yard waste program, as well as the growth in our

01:33:33.200 --> 01:33:41.240
 residential community, we find ourselves in need of additions in our cart purchase funds.

01:33:41.240 --> 01:33:48.600
 With that, I would like to go ahead and open up for any questions that you might have regarding

01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:50.200
 the program or the presentation.

01:33:50.200 --> 01:33:51.200
 Questions?

01:33:51.200 --> 01:33:52.200
 Ed, go ahead.

01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:53.200
 You're on mute.

01:33:53.200 --> 01:33:54.200
 Thank you.

01:33:54.200 --> 01:34:10.000
 This sort of falls in with your first future goal, which is the solid waste comprehensive

01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.940
 management strategy.

01:34:12.940 --> 01:34:22.580
 The latest 2018 greenhouse gas inventory that the city has published indicates that waste

01:34:22.580 --> 01:34:30.680
 emissions account for 44% of emissions from municipal operations.

01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:38.440
 And it's an increase, actually, of 31% over 2017.

01:34:38.440 --> 01:34:44.780
 And one can only assume that with the growth that is forecast and expansion that is forecast

01:34:44.780 --> 01:34:51.080
 for the landfill, that this number is going to increase.

01:34:51.080 --> 01:35:03.640
 So I know that much of the methane emissions from the landfill is from food waste.

01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:10.400
 And so I'm basically saying that I hope that this solid waste comprehensive management

01:35:10.400 --> 01:35:22.320
 strategy will include a food waste diversion plan, as well as, perhaps, residential curbside

01:35:22.320 --> 01:35:27.240
 composting.

01:35:27.240 --> 01:35:30.620
 Food waste diversion, I think, is very, very important with this.

01:35:30.620 --> 01:35:42.880
 And I would hope, as well, that the comprehensive management strategy is of a wide scope a large

01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:43.880
 time frame.

01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:50.800
 I know you're probably familiar with Austin's Resource Recovery Master Plan, which is an

01:35:50.800 --> 01:36:02.800
 amazing document, centralizes and compacts everything, all necessary aspects of the city

01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:05.720
 in working on waste reduction.

01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:11.400
 And the scope of their plan is 30 years, and some of it is even further.

01:36:11.400 --> 01:36:18.400
 So I hope that given the great development, both residential and commercial, that is coming

01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:28.080
 to Denton, that the plan to be has a scope that reflects the development that is coming

01:36:28.080 --> 01:36:29.560
 to our community.

01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:30.560
 Thanks.

01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:31.560
 Thank you.

01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:32.560
 Okay.

01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:33.560
 Any other questions?

01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:36.000
 We really need to keep moving.

01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:39.840
 All right, Nick, you're up.

01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:48.680
 Thank you.

01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:52.680
 Thank you, Brian.

01:36:52.680 --> 01:37:02.400
 All right, so financial assumptions for the wastewater fund, similar to water and wastewater,

01:37:02.400 --> 01:37:05.800
 we do have a 2% growth forecast in the out years.

01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:11.560
 We are currently anticipating the wholesale agreements ending in fiscal year '22 and '23.

01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:14.960
 I'll walk you through that in a financial performance here shortly.

01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:19.320
 Expenses the same thing as the other utilities, a 2% growth forecast in the out years.

01:37:19.320 --> 01:37:23.640
 We do have cell construction being moved from fiscal year '22 to '21, seeing some of that

01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:25.640
 growth coming into the facility.

01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:30.320
 And then rates, a 5% rate decrease for residential customers is currently what we're proposing,

01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:31.320
 which is a dollar.

01:37:31.320 --> 01:37:35.560
 And I showed that to you in the water presentation, I'll review it with you again shortly.

01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:39.840
 We are looking to make minimum updates to contracted rates, for example, the wholesale

01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:46.960
 agreements, and then minimum updates to valley rate, commercial rate, and gate disposal rate.

01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:52.300
 It's the five-year forecast for the solid waste fund.

01:37:52.300 --> 01:37:56.240
 We will be bringing back a 10-year forecast when we come back to the Public Utility Board

01:37:56.240 --> 01:37:59.200
 with a detailed discussion later in August.

01:37:59.200 --> 01:38:03.720
 But in this financial picture, what you can see, so in the adopted 2020 column, you have

01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:06.680
 planned use of reserves of $3 million.

01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:11.060
 We are forecasting to finish the year a little bit better, or quite a bit better, about $1.4

01:38:11.060 --> 01:38:12.060
 million positive.

01:38:12.060 --> 01:38:13.760
 So actually not using reserves.

01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:17.480
 So that continued growth that Brian was talking about coming into the facility has really

01:38:17.480 --> 01:38:19.620
 helped out the solid waste fund.

01:38:19.620 --> 01:38:23.880
 We are currently showing $280,000 for a COVID revenue impact number.

01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:27.320
 We will refine this number when we come back to you in December, once we get some hard

01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:30.280
 data from customer service regarding that impact.

01:38:30.280 --> 01:38:33.640
 The proposed budget is in this dotted line here.

01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:38.160
 In the 2021 budget, we do have planned use of reserves of $4.3 million.

01:38:38.160 --> 01:38:44.220
 Moving down the page, you can see expenses of $44.1 for an ending fund balance of $8.3.

01:38:44.220 --> 01:38:50.000
 In this fund, there is a minimum and a maximum goal that we have for our fund balance, 51

01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:55.200
 days being the minimum of 14% and 65 days or 18% being the maximum.

01:38:55.200 --> 01:38:59.520
 So you can see we're well within that range and actually above the maximum.

01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:06.120
 Moving out to the 5-year, you can see we do just below it in the 5th year in 2025 to $5.6

01:39:06.120 --> 01:39:10.080
 million with the minimum being $5.673.

01:39:10.080 --> 01:39:11.480
 There's a couple of reasons for this.

01:39:11.480 --> 01:39:17.080
 The main reason is you can see from '22 to '23, those wholesale agreements do go away.

01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:21.560
 So you see rate revenue drop from $33.5 to $34.5.

01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:24.720
 This is that $5 million associated with those agreements.

01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:28.400
 If those are approved by PV and council or renewed, this will change the forecast.

01:39:28.400 --> 01:39:32.360
 But currently we've taken the conservative approach and taken those out of the 5-year

01:39:32.360 --> 01:39:33.360
 picture.

01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:40.800
 The 5-year CIP, one thing I will say for the solid waste fund, they have transitioned over

01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:44.960
 the last few years from debt funding, a lot of assets to revenue funding.

01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:49.480
 You can actually see we have a minimum amount of debt planned for this fund, $3 million.

01:39:49.480 --> 01:39:53.760
 This is for a fleet annex building at the solid waste facility.

01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:59.960
 We have about $6.25 million in revenue funding and then $3.4 million in vehicle replacement.

01:39:59.960 --> 01:40:02.320
 Did I hear somebody, Susan or?

01:40:02.320 --> 01:40:03.320
 >> I'm sorry?

01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:04.320
 >> Okay.

01:40:04.320 --> 01:40:06.600
 I thought I heard someone ask the question.

01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:09.660
 I was just -- didn't know if someone asked something or not.

01:40:09.660 --> 01:40:15.840
 For the 5-year total for the CIP plan, you can see we have $41.5 million planned to kind

01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:18.960
 of separate it out and give you a perspective of how much of that is a bond and how much

01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:19.960
 of that is cash.

01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:25.520
 We have $14.3 million in bond funding over a 5-year period with $27.1 million in revenue

01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:26.520
 funding.

01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:30.080
 So this fund is definitely healthy.

01:40:30.080 --> 01:40:34.320
 Proposed rate changes, we are looking to make a few more updates in the solid waste rate

01:40:34.320 --> 01:40:39.160
 ordinance this fiscal year prior to that detailed discussion in December.

01:40:39.160 --> 01:40:43.160
 Valet shared services, so this is the downtown service for valet commercial services that

01:40:43.160 --> 01:40:45.000
 was started last year.

01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:51.520
 Under 2, the rate is currently 138.28, we are looking to decrease that rate to 74.16.

01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:54.760
 This does align with the cost of service model that we are currently using that was updated

01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:56.520
 two years ago.

01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:01.440
 Yard waste services, currently this service is not offered to commercial businesses, so

01:41:01.440 --> 01:41:06.240
 we are looking to put a rate in the ordinance for that of $75 per hour.

01:41:06.240 --> 01:41:09.560
 This is consistent with the residential rate for yard waste service.

01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:13.060
 The standard cart rate is currently 21.51.

01:41:13.060 --> 01:41:17.520
 We are showing that dollar decrease that I discussed with you a couple slides ago, so

01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:21.520
 you can see 20.51 would be the proposed rate for 20.21.

01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:28.800
 The large cart, 26.26 is the current rate and then 25.04 would be with that decrease.

01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:32.200
 Additional large cart, people can call in to order an additional large cart.

01:41:32.200 --> 01:41:35.360
 We are looking to reduce this based on the cost of service model.

01:41:35.360 --> 01:41:39.320
 So it goes from 17.38 to 16.57.

01:41:39.320 --> 01:41:46.280
 We are looking to increase the gate rate from 46 to 48, and then the sludge, dewatered sludge

01:41:46.280 --> 01:41:49.800
 landfill disposal rate from 46 to 50.

01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:53.420
 One other thing down here at the bottom, we do have a note, we are looking to adjust the

01:41:53.420 --> 01:41:58.160
 wholesale contracted rates by 2.3%, which is a CPI adjuster.

01:41:58.160 --> 01:42:02.560
 This is identified in those contracts, and this does account for about 400,000 additional

01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:04.240
 revenue per year.

01:42:04.240 --> 01:42:07.960
 This is the slide I've shown you several times before.

01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:14.800
 You can see the proposed overall bill for an average residential customer would be 229.56,

01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:20.000
 so actually decreasing their utility bill by $2.08.

01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:23.640
 It's the dates, as we said before, this August 10th date will more likely change based on

01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:27.520
 the discussion with the PUV today, push that back later in August.

01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:31.200
 Then September 15th, the City Council will adopt the budget, the tax rate, and capital

01:42:31.200 --> 01:42:32.200
 improvement plan.

01:42:32.200 --> 01:42:35.800
 And then we'll circle back with the PUV and City Council in November and December with

01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:39.000
 a detailed budget, rate, and cost of service discussion.

01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:44.240
 And with that, that concludes the presentation, and I will pull this down for questions.

01:42:44.240 --> 01:42:45.240
 Yes.

01:42:45.240 --> 01:42:46.240
 Yes, sir.

01:42:46.240 --> 01:42:47.240
 Yes.

01:42:47.240 --> 01:42:48.240
 Slide 52.

01:42:48.240 --> 01:42:51.680
 Nick, can you put slide 52 back up?

01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:52.680
 Sure.

01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:56.440
 Hang on just a second.

01:42:56.440 --> 01:42:57.440
 52.

01:42:57.440 --> 01:42:58.440
 Yes, sir.

01:42:58.440 --> 01:42:59.440
 Yeah.

01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:00.920
 Yeah, that one.

01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:09.760
 The bottom two rows, fiscal year 21-22, revenue is about half of what it is prior year.

01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.320
 What's the reason for that, again?

01:43:12.320 --> 01:43:16.680
 Let me go back to the – hang on just a second to the fine-year forecast here.

01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.400
 This may help us answer your question.

01:43:19.400 --> 01:43:24.760
 We do have some revenue funding in here, capital investment for that cell development.

01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:28.400
 So if you remember, I made that comment earlier about the cell construction moving from 22

01:43:28.400 --> 01:43:29.400
 to 21.

01:43:29.400 --> 01:43:30.400
 Yes.

01:43:30.400 --> 01:43:33.720
 So the majority of this money, to answer your question, is for the next cell development

01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:34.720
 cost.

01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:37.640
 We are looking to pay cash for the development of that cell.

01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:39.600
 So that's about $5 million.

01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:42.080
 Does that answer your question?

01:43:42.080 --> 01:43:46.280
 So the reason it's not $9 million is because you're going to use half of it roughly to

01:43:46.280 --> 01:43:47.280
 pay for new construction.

01:43:47.280 --> 01:43:48.280
 Is that true?

01:43:48.280 --> 01:43:49.280
 That's correct.

01:43:49.280 --> 01:43:50.280
 Yeah.

01:43:50.280 --> 01:43:53.640
 In 2021, we're going to use the majority of that money to pay for cash funding of the

01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:54.640
 next cell development.

01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:58.480
 And then, of course, in the five-year picture, we don't have a next cell plugged in.

01:43:58.480 --> 01:44:03.880
 So the decrease in the 6.2 that you see here to the 1.9 is because we're building that

01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.400
 cell in 2021.

01:44:06.400 --> 01:44:08.360
 Okay.

01:44:08.360 --> 01:44:21.200
 I also know the total working reserve is – we have above the maximum amount suggested.

01:44:21.200 --> 01:44:26.600
 And I wonder if, when you contemplate issuing bonds, you ever have the discussion where

01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:32.760
 you look at the total reserve and these numbers and evaluate, do you really need to issue

01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:36.560
 another bond for these things?

01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:37.840
 That's a great question.

01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:42.040
 So we did, prior to coming to the PUB, when we met with management staff in the city,

01:44:42.040 --> 01:44:46.560
 we did have $1.2 million plugged in this five-year bond program.

01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:50.320
 Looking at the five-year forecast and the health of this fund, we did make the determination

01:44:50.320 --> 01:44:52.520
 to cash fund that asset.

01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:58.360
 With this being a building of $3 million, this fund could afford to cash fund in 2021.

01:44:58.360 --> 01:45:02.680
 Staff just felt the most appropriate way to pay for this asset was bond funding it, since

01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:07.520
 it is a building, and it will have longer than a 20-year life.

01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:12.080
 So yes, to answer your question, we do look at the overall fund balance when considering

01:45:12.080 --> 01:45:14.480
 what the revenue fund and what the debt fund.

01:45:14.480 --> 01:45:18.480
 And I will say, you know, a big focus from the Solid Waste Fund, as you can see, in 2019,

01:45:18.480 --> 01:45:20.680
 we had a debt service number of 8.9 million.

01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:25.120
 You know, this fund from the financial department and the Solid Waste Department has done a

01:45:25.120 --> 01:45:29.560
 great job of mitigating that debt issuance and cash funding more and more assets.

01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:34.120
 And you can see out here, the debt service payment is cut in half, the 3.4 to 4.2 million.

01:45:34.120 --> 01:45:36.240
 Well, that's a good thing.

01:45:36.240 --> 01:45:37.240
 It's a great thing.

01:45:37.240 --> 01:45:41.240
 And this is something to be proud of for the entire city.

01:45:41.240 --> 01:45:44.680
 You really have made a lot of progress from the beginning.

01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:45.680
 Absolutely.

01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:51.000
 Other questions?

01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:56.040
 Well, we did it.

01:45:56.040 --> 01:45:57.880
 We did it.

01:45:57.880 --> 01:46:00.960
 Thank you again for coming in today for the special called meeting.

01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:03.080
 We really appreciate it.

01:46:03.080 --> 01:46:08.240
 So Susan and PB members, one of the items that I will add to the Business Action Matrix

01:46:08.240 --> 01:46:12.080
 will be a feature work session on the budget process.

01:46:12.080 --> 01:46:16.720
 What we'd like to do is then come back to you along with the finance department and

01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:20.680
 kind of walk you through what the process had been and kind of where we've been and

01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:25.040
 then kind of turn that into just a work session discussion with you to give us some direction

01:46:25.040 --> 01:46:28.880
 on what would you like that process to be going forward.

01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:29.880
 Okay.

01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:30.880
 Great.

01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:34.240
 With that, do we have a motion to adjourn?

01:46:34.240 --> 01:46:36.240
 I move we adjourn.

01:46:36.240 --> 01:46:37.240
 All right.

01:46:37.240 --> 01:46:38.240
 We're adjourned.

01:46:38.240 --> 01:46:39.240
 Thank you.

01:46:39.240 --> 01:46:40.240
 Thank you.

