1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,360 Yes, Russ. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,920 I was absent on the 13th, so I won't vote on that one. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Okay, so we'll need to take them in two different. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Okay. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,520 I have nothing on the 13th, so we can approve that as far as I'm concerned. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Okay, do we have a motion? 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,320 I second his motion to approve. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,320 Okay. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Assuming Russ was effectively a motion to approve, I second. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Okay. 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,160 All in favor, aye? 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Aye. 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Opposed? 14 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:35,440 And Karen's not voting, so that's a record. 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Okay. 16 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,440 July 27th. 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,440 Russ, you have a? 18 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Yeah, just to comment on item C, where we discussed that pump failure. 19 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,120 And the comment – what I think is maybe the most important comment was not listed 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:58,200 in the minutes, and that comment is the discussion we had with Ken Banks about the need to have 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:11,000 a policy to require a written, formal, root-caused analysis or a root-caused analysis or a failure 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,680 analysis when something like that happens. 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,080 And he said he was going to make sure that requirement was in his policies, and if not, 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,200 he was going to add it to his policies. 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,880 That's, to me, the most important thing that came out of that. 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,720 We can certainly go back and amend those minutes and bring them back to you. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:39,920 So, Russ, the PUB received a fairly thorough report on that right afterwards. 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 I've never received – I've never received anything about it. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Right, because you weren't on the board at that point. 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,440 So it might be useful if somebody could let you know the date of the minutes or the date 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,680 of the presentation, and you could go back and look at our backup. 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Okay. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,680 That's fine. 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Yeah. 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,760 I can do a pretty detailed report once something like this happens. 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,760 Okay. 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:09,760 I guess the question was, is it a requirement written down in any policy of the department? 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,240 That's the issue. 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Or is it just kind of a hit-and-miss thing? 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,000 I think it's a routine, isn't it, Tony? 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Yes, it is. 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,080 I think Kenny wanted to verify whether or not it was in the policy. 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,920 He was pretty confident that it was, but I don't think he's completed his review of 44 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:27,920 that. 45 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:28,920 Okay. 46 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:32,160 But we can certainly get back with you, Mr. Bradford, and kind of let you know kind of 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,160 where that is. 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,160 All right. 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Thank you. 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,440 That's the only thing I had on that. 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,240 So do we just table this? 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,560 I have a couple of amendments to the minutes as well. 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Okay. 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Go ahead. 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Where are you, Charlie? 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:59,960 First, on the Item 2B, just for the sake of abundance of caution, I think we should mention 57 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:04,920 that Bill Chee left the meeting and recused himself from the discussion, not just that 58 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:09,220 he recused himself for the discussion. 59 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:13,800 Given the scope and the size of that, I think we should document it in the minutes that 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,980 he left the meeting. 61 00:03:15,980 --> 00:03:19,240 And then- The clarification, actually. 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:29,980 The second clarification on the lawsuit issue, the minutes refer to it as a lawsuit between 63 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:34,920 DME and former employees, and that seems a little bit misleading. 64 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,560 The lawsuit is grim and- Excuse me, Charlie? 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Charlie? 66 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Yeah. 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Can you turn your camera on, please? 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Thank you. 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,960 I can't look at- I'll have my camera on in just a second. 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,720 I've got to read off of my word, then I'll turn my camera off. 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,880 But the lawsuit is entitled Grim and Maynard versus City of Denton. 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:03,640 So it's a little misleading to call it a lawsuit between DME and former employees. 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:11,980 And it also says that the judgment has not been received or arrived at. 74 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:22,200 The jury awarded a $3.9 million verdict on or around February, what, 10th of 2020. 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:31,980 So I think covering it differently seems- And I've got my video on now. 76 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:34,720 I just wanted to look at my notes on that. 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,680 I think we should be accurate in the minutes and not call it a lawsuit involving DME and 78 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,300 former employees. 79 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:46,040 Grim versus City of Denton is the title of a lawsuit. 80 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,600 We can certainly work with the city attorney's office and get those corrected. 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,160 So I'm assuming we need to table them for now? 82 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,160 Correct. 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,960 And just a point, Larry, if I'm wrong, we need to keep our faces on when we're speaking 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,240 because this is an open meeting and they need to be recording us visually. 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,240 Right. 86 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,400 So don't turn your cameras off. 87 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Sorry. 88 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,420 My only reason for turning the camera off was that I was looking at a Word document. 89 00:05:16,420 --> 00:05:18,600 I'm down to one computer screen. 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,600 Okay. 91 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,320 All right. 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,960 That's why I use two different devices. 93 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 That's okay. 94 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,700 Next item is management update, new business action items. 95 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:36,000 So Madam Chair and PB members, there was a couple of items that are still outstanding. 96 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,400 I just wanted to go over the items that have been completed. 97 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,000 So we've provided the copy of the 2015 fleet ordinance and also the information on the 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,320 preferred purchasing policy. 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Those two items have been provided. 100 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,040 I think there was some additional feedback from Mr. Sofe regarding the purchasing policy 101 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,520 that we'll be taking back to the COE. 102 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,960 The item, item number three on the capital utilities approved dollars versus spend dollars 103 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,560 that will be covered in today's budget presentations. 104 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,960 So we hope that that'll meet your, your expectations on, on that particular item. 105 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,120 And then the item number one, which had to do with the, with this pending litigation, 106 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,000 I know that at the last meeting, I think it was a three, three kind of vote, but I think 107 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,400 the city attorney's office may have some additional information to provide. 108 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,040 So I'll look at Larry to see if he wants to chime in on, on that front. 109 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,360 Not right now. 110 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:41,200 It's just the appropriate time to get Mr. Chief. 111 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,240 I'm actually reversing my decision after I did some reading this weekend. 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,440 I think we should have an update so that we do understand what's going on knowing that 113 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,600 it needs to be in closed session and anything we hear cannot be discussed in public. 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Billy, what did your thoughts? 115 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,840 What was the, what was the item you were speaking which I'm not clear where you're coming from 116 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:07,360 Grimm versus city of Denton, right? 117 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,360 The lawsuit. 118 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Do we, do you want to hear an update on what is going on with the lawsuit? 119 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Yes. 120 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,000 You need to request that of city council. 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Yes, I, I do, but I'm not sure why you were asking me specifically because you were the 122 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,280 only one that was not on and it was three, three. 123 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Oh, okay. 124 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Okay. 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:38,400 If that's the, if that's the will of the majority, I'm fine with receiving a report. 126 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:44,360 I was one of the people who was just on the basis that it was a personnel issue. 127 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,960 I was there too, Karen. 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,960 I am. 129 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:47,960 I understand. 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,640 And I'll make a comment on that, Karen. 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,200 I think the city attorney is not going to let them give us anything that they don't 132 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,960 think is appropriate for us to see. 133 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,960 And they shouldn't. 134 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Yeah, that's true. 135 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,960 That's true. 136 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,000 And I think if it affects the budget, that's really where we ought to be coming from. 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Yeah. 138 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,320 So what will it do with the personnel issue itself? 139 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,960 We don't need to know anything about the personnel file, just the impact. 140 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,320 I want to make sure this is clear. 141 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:21,080 I mean, you need to make sure the record states why, why you're wanting to hear information 142 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,520 about the lawsuit, what you're wanting to hear with respect to the lawsuit, when you 143 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,880 make that request of council, it doesn't need to be just, Hey, we want to hear everything 144 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,880 about that. 145 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,640 And Mr. Cheek is right. 146 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,800 That's where I was coming from the last meeting is when you look at the charter, you have 147 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,800 the responsibility. 148 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:46,480 The PB is with respect to the really the financial operation, the utilities, there's nothing about 149 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,240 personnel decisions within that, that's reserved to the city council, the city manager. 150 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Right. 151 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,880 So from my perspective, what is the financial impact? 152 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,440 What is the worst it can be and what is the best it can be and limit it to what our financial 153 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,380 obligation to that would be. 154 00:09:03,380 --> 00:09:07,840 Any other board member want to weigh in on, is that the correct direction? 155 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:18,840 Certainly if the, the impact of the jury's verdict is something that's going to be absorbed 156 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,360 by the city's budget and the general fund, I would agree. 157 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,800 It's not within our scope particularly, but if it's the intention of the city manager 158 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:36,520 and the city attorney's office to have the municipal utilities funds absorb some of the 159 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:43,880 cost of the lawsuit, then yes, it's very germane to our committee to certainly know the publicly 160 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:53,600 available information and any non-public information that is, that's germane to our decision or. 161 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Yeah, expanding on Charlie's point, we, you know, if it's going to be a policy to not 162 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:17,160 come up and make a, a settlement that affects the budget and this can, this policy continues. 163 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:25,040 It will affect all future budgets and therefore, although we don't need to get into the personnel 164 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:31,720 issue, we need to get into the policy of what is our, what is the city's decision, what 165 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:39,320 are the city's decision going to be handling employees with lawsuits as it affects the 166 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,320 budget? 167 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,160 Does that make sense? 168 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,280 And Tony, typically in, from the accounting perspective, the fund that is affected is 169 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,600 usually the one charged so. 170 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,600 That is correct. 171 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,040 Obviously there's insurance implications as well. 172 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:02,480 We do have business practice insurance, but generally speaking, a lot of these expenses 173 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,560 will come out of the city's risk fund that ultimately ends up being allocated back out 174 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:09,960 to the, to the respective fund. 175 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,040 However, depending on the amount that we may be talking about, it could come directly out 176 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,040 of the utilities. 177 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,400 I mean, ultimately in this particular one, it'll, it'll be the electric fund that would 178 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,600 be burdened with any, any expenditure. 179 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,680 All right. 180 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:31,360 Is it clear what we're asking Larry? 181 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Yes. 182 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Okay. 183 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,360 All right. 184 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:40,520 And I, I do need to tell you that we need to be done by 10 30 because the city council 185 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,520 is meeting today. 186 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,560 So let's move on to concluding items. 187 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:50,760 Does any board member wish to have an item added to the future agenda or have any comments 188 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,760 to make? 189 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,440 I see none. 190 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,740 So let's move on to the work session and receive a report, hold a discussion and give direction 191 00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:06,960 to the water wastewater drainage and solid waste and fiscal year 2021 proposed budget 192 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,520 capital improvement program and five year financial forecast. 193 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,120 So PB members will turn this over to Nick Vincent. 194 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Good morning. 195 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,080 PB members, chair and Nick Vincent assistant finance director. 196 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,360 First of all, I want to thank everybody for being here today for this special called meeting. 197 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,520 We do have three budget presentations to go through the water utility, wastewater utility 198 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,040 and solid waste and each of the presentations are broken into two different discussions. 199 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,400 The first part of the presentation is an operational discussion and at the end of that, there'll 200 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,120 be a slide for questions and then I'll return to the podium to go through the finances for 201 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,120 each utility. 202 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:55,880 With that, I'll turn it over to Frank Pugsley to go for water. 203 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Thank you, Nick. 204 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,240 Good morning, Madam Chair, PB members. 205 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,400 I am Frank Pugsley, the water and wastewater utilities director here to discuss the operational 206 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:12,360 portion of the water utilities fiscal year '21 budget presentation. 207 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:19,560 I'd like to start with a few accomplishments and future goals. 208 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:23,280 Just kind of hit a few highlights if you have any specific questions on any of these, please 209 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,480 don't hesitate to ask in the Q&A portion. 210 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,140 We do have a couple of significant projects ongoing at the Louisville Water Treatment 211 00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:37,880 Plant for some major upgrades and as well as zebra mussel control and we have two major 212 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:43,240 water transmission projects in the All Red John Payne Main and the North South Water 213 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Transmission Main, which will significantly increase our ability to move water from the 214 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,560 north side of town to the south side of town, generally along Bonnie Bray and All Red Road. 215 00:13:52,560 --> 00:14:00,840 Some of our future goals in this next fiscal year, we intend to enter into a project to 216 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,000 study advanced metering infrastructure for water distribution that'd be similar to the 217 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,400 smart meters for electric, so we're going to start investigating that and see what may 218 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,640 or may not be the best options for us in the future. 219 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:18,640 And we also intend to continue to make full use of our asset management program that we 220 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,960 completed this past fiscal year to make sure we are replacing the right pipes at the right 221 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,420 time in their life cycle, as well as coordinating those conditions of those pipes with the street 222 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:35,720 condition index so that we can touch the streets as few times as practical. 223 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Some of our philosophical changes that we've had over the past 12 to 18 months, we've really 224 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,980 spent a lot of time really focusing on culture building as we've begun to lose a lot of long 225 00:14:46,980 --> 00:14:48,480 tenured employees. 226 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,760 We started breaking down silos and really working on process and functional integration 227 00:14:53,760 --> 00:15:00,200 with other departments in the city, including tech services, IT, public works, capital projects, 228 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,480 so we are actually, I think, doing a lot more today than we have done in recent history 229 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:11,480 with fewer people, you know, tighter budgets, and in light of a pandemic, we're still being 230 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,680 extremely successful. 231 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:19,900 Some of our planning and cost saving items, as you probably are aware, we are intending 232 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:23,920 on expanding the Ray Roberts water treatment plant significantly. 233 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,320 The current planned expansion was for 30 million gallons per day, increasing above the current 234 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,840 20MGD capacity. 235 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:38,240 Through a capacity upgrade process that we're going to pursue with the TCEQ, we're actually 236 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:45,760 able to push back the major 30MGD upgrade to be online around 2029 or 2030. 237 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,360 So that major upgrade will be the $100 million project you've been hearing about, but we 238 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:55,200 think we can get an extra 5MGD to 10MGD out of the current plant and the current processes 239 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:01,880 within current TCEQ regulations, so that way we can utilize that plant to its full capacity. 240 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,800 That has kind of a secondary benefit, and that 30MGD expansion would then be somewhere 241 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:13,760 between, you know, 37 to 45MGD for about the same cost, so we're actually getting a two 242 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,880 for one there in some ways. 243 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,360 Here's some operational data from our water production. 244 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,440 The gray shaded area is our five-year average of monthly water production. 245 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:30,180 The kind of brown-orange line at the top was our 2020 fiscal year budget for water production. 246 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:33,800 The green line was last fiscal year, and the blue line is this fiscal year. 247 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,560 As you can see, we've kind of been at or just near our budgeted amounts this year, adjusting 248 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,560 for weather. 249 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:46,320 We're doing fairly well, and we finished July basically right in between last fiscal year 250 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:53,540 and our budget, so we're doing pretty well on the water production side. 251 00:16:53,540 --> 00:16:57,820 Operational data for the water distribution and asset management groups. 252 00:16:57,820 --> 00:17:01,360 We intend to flush 11,000 hydrants this year. 253 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,460 That is, on average, each hydrant about twice a year. 254 00:17:04,460 --> 00:17:11,760 We have just over 5,000 hydrants in the city, and additionally replace 3,200 meters. 255 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:17,520 And for our system major maintenance, which is our replacement of some of our aging lines, 256 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:25,260 this fiscal year, we've set a minimum goal to replace 29 or 24,000 linear feet. 257 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:29,080 That's based on our new asset management program we've started this year. 258 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,240 And in order to accomplish that, we've really partnered heavily with Streets and Public Works 259 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,600 and the Capital Projects Group to outsource that additional replacement. 260 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,680 So you can see in past fiscal years, we've outsourced very little system replacement, 261 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,680 whereas this fiscal year, we're nearly 30,000 feet of outsourced lines. 262 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:52,760 So we're far exceeding that amount this year, close to 44,000, and then we're going to increase 263 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:59,000 that goal next year as we really work together with the Streets program to push that to about 264 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,120 46,000 feet. 265 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:06,240 The benefit we see here is that we can turn outsourcing of this major maintenance on and 266 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,240 off. 267 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,000 We really can't outsource emergencies or some of the minor maintenance activities. 268 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,960 So we're able to keep our core in-house crews fully utilized and fully busy while we can 269 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:25,340 turn up and down the outsourcing and still meet our 24,000-foot goal. 270 00:18:25,340 --> 00:18:31,520 In view of the FTE summary, our full-time employees, we began this year with 107.5. 271 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:39,840 We had 18.5 vacancies, including DSP departures, and we were approved to refill 12 and a half 272 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:45,480 of those, leaving us with 101 and a half FTEs going into next fiscal year. 273 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,220 And that salary savings for next fiscal year is about 540,000. 274 00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:54,400 And you'll see the positions that were eliminated from the budget listed there in the bulleted 275 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,680 list, and we've done all this really with no reductions in level of service. 276 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,280 The plants are still operating well. 277 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,400 We're still completing our system replacement and our minor maintenance. 278 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,520 We're very proud of our ability to continue to work at a high level with fewer staff and 279 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,560 more efficiently. 280 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,840 The organizational chart for the utilities, you'll see here broken down in basically functional 281 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,840 areas. 282 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,280 We're familiar with our general manager of utilities, Kenny Banks, and his six direct 283 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,120 reports are listed there with their functional responsibilities. 284 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,600 I will just note, and I'll probably note it again in the wastewater presentation, you'll 285 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,440 see the red box around the Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center. 286 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,800 The educational programming components of Clear Creek, as well as the Sustainable Schools 287 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Program have been shifted to the Parks Department, so Gary will provide more details on that 288 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,240 in his presentation. 289 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:59,120 With that, I will open it up to any questions on the operational aspects of the water utility. 290 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,120 Questions of the board? 291 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:01,120 Yes, sir. 292 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,120 Does anyone have a question? 293 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:06,560 Frank, on your operational data, slide number four. 294 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Yes, sir. 295 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:15,000 The increase in water produced between June of '19 and this year is roughly, according 296 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:22,840 to the way I read it, around 140 million gallons, something like that, which is about a 24% 297 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,840 increase. 298 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,440 That's a pretty big jump. 299 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 What's the reason for that increase? 300 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,000 I don't have the data right in front of me, but I think if we all can rack our brains, 301 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,880 we can remember last spring into summer, it was a very wet year. 302 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,840 We really didn't see that uptick in water production until August and September, so 303 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,280 we really made up a lot of ground in late July, August, and September of last year. 304 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Up until June, it was just rain and cats and dogs, and we weren't seeing the irrigation 305 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,280 demand that we are this year. 306 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,440 Then you're relying more on the five-year average than just last year? 307 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,440 Correct. 308 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,560 Yeah, we like to compare to the five-year average because obviously with growth, we'd 309 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:08,080 like to see our production continue to increase in accordance with our plans. 310 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,160 What do you think the main reason for the increase is lawn sprinklers, basically? 311 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,120 Yes, it's primarily driven by weather. 312 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:21,680 We had a pretty hot and dry June compared to last year. 313 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,820 How close are you? 314 00:21:22,820 --> 00:21:28,840 You talked about the upcoming plant capacity increases, and it's going to come online. 315 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,200 How close are you now to your capacity? 316 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Our peak day that we've experienced all time, I believe, is in the 37 to 39 MGD range. 317 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,760 We have 28 or 29 MGD of capacity at the Lewisville plant plus the 20 at Bray Roberts. 318 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,280 We have 49, almost 50 MGD of capacity. 319 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:57,200 We have about 11 MGD of spare capacity today, but with the Hunter and Coal Ranch developments, 320 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,320 as well as any renewed interest in development in the city of Denton, that additional spare 321 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,240 capacity that we have right now will be consumed, we expect, in the next decade. 322 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,360 Okay, thanks. 323 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:13,160 Barbara, go ahead. 324 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,360 In the past, the zebra mussels have been a big issue. 325 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,200 Are we making improvements? 326 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Are we getting a hold of that better? 327 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,740 Yes, so part of those Lake Lewisville upgrade projects are some zebra mussel control technologies 328 00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:31,640 at both raw water intakes at Bray Roberts and at Lewisville Lake. 329 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,640 One of the things that's interesting about zebra mussels, you may have seen in the news 330 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,040 this week that grapevine has now been determined to be fully infested. 331 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Bray Roberts and Lewisville already are. 332 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,360 Whenever we see the initial surge in zebra mussels, it seems like their population peaks 333 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,880 and then begins to subside. 334 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,840 We haven't had too many issues with them in the last several years. 335 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,680 Whenever we go into Bray Roberts, we're having a major upgrade project between now and the 336 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,680 capacity expansion. 337 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,480 We'll go in and we'll clean our raw water line out, because we probably will find some 338 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 accumulation of shells in the line. 339 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,040 Thank you. 340 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,760 Any other questions? 341 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Go ahead. 342 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:20,160 Yeah, I'd just like to make a remark about your goals and congratulate you on the improved 343 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,120 communication and collaboration and, as you say, the breaking down of silos. 344 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:29,540 I think this is very healthy that the more inner communication on various projects and 345 00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:35,080 initiatives and strategies between various departments is very good, because the more 346 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080 brains the more ideas for sure. 347 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,080 Thank you. 348 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Thank you. 349 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Yeah, we're trying to be as efficient as we possibly can, so we're not, you know, we know 350 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,240 the right hand and left hand need to know what each other are doing so we can cooperate. 351 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,400 And Frank, is that why we're increasing? 352 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,920 I know you've got it in the slide, but I just want the public to hear it, that we're increasing 353 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,760 what we used to do in street rehabilitations to about 46,000, and that's because we're 354 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,400 aligning with the street projects that are going on. 355 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,320 So when they tear up the street, we're going in and we're doing utilities, so it's more 356 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,160 coordinated and we're not tearing up a good street to put in utilities. 357 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,160 Correct. 358 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,400 Yes, we are definitely coordinating heavily with the street replacement program. 359 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,120 And you know, we're looking also very intently on the condition and criticality of the utilities 360 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,440 in that street. 361 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,560 If we feel like they have ample life left that we don't need to replace them today, 362 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,560 we're not going to throw good money in replacing good pipes. 363 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,400 We'll let the street project go and we'll plan to come back in, you know, 15 or 20 years 364 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,200 to replace the utilities when the next street project comes through. 365 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,560 So we're definitely trying to synchronize all that so we minimize the impacts to the 366 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,080 residents and to, like you said, we don't want to tear up a good street. 367 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,640 Good idea. 368 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680 Oh, Karen. 369 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,980 I was just noticing on page six, you're eliminating an auditor position. 370 00:24:55,980 --> 00:25:00,560 How many auditors do you currently have? 371 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:10,600 If Kenny Banks is on the line, I'll let him tackle that question. 372 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,600 Good morning, board members. 373 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,440 This is Ken Banks, general manager of utilities. 374 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,440 Can you hear me? 375 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,440 Yes. 376 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Yes. 377 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Good morning. 378 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:30,560 To address your question, we have had a single auditor position and it's really that position 379 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,840 over time has changed more into a business manager position. 380 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:43,080 So that title was retooled this year and we have made that into a business management 381 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,080 position. 382 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:50,880 So we had one that did some auditing, but predominantly was dealing with performance 383 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,400 measures, business metrics, et cetera. 384 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,160 And now we have essentially the same function. 385 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:03,320 It's just more the title is more aligned with what the job actually does. 386 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,440 So you have zero auditors then? 387 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,440 That is correct. 388 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Having a formal auditor in the utilities, we do not have one. 389 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,240 We have an overall city auditing program. 390 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:25,320 So we didn't want to have any overlap there and so this is basically just a business management 391 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,320 position. 392 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,320 Okay. 393 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,320 Thank you. 394 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,160 So to make it clear, the internal auditor's office is still looking at your department. 395 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,160 Yes. 396 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:39,840 I mean, the internal auditor's department examines all aspects of city operations and utilities 397 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,880 has certainly been one that they've looked at on a variety of programs. 398 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Billy, did you have a question or no? 399 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Yeah. 400 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:55,200 I'm going to comment as a whole, it's not just for water, it's for all the utility budget 401 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,160 presentations. 402 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,400 We're not looking at a preliminary budget, we're looking at a presentation. 403 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,760 We don't really see the details. 404 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,000 There's a number for capital expenditure, but there is no detail as to what those, and 405 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:20,720 I mean purchases of equipment, vehicles, improvements, there's no details of those items. 406 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,940 Council sees this in a few minutes. 407 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:30,920 I really can't give any good advice without any detail and I'm not saying anything against 408 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,920 staff. 409 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:39,560 I think this is, seems to be the philosophy at the city right now, is that there's no 410 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,360 reason to get the board to any detail. 411 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,760 So if there's no reason to give the board to any detail or time to consider these things 412 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,800 and looking at preliminary budget, how can we possibly advise the council? 413 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,000 I think the answer is we can't. 414 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,440 I don't see any way to be able to give advice to the council. 415 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,800 If we don't get preliminary budgets with detail and discussion. 416 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:12,880 And in previous years, I think Nick's going to respond, what the process is for this year. 417 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,320 Yes, Mr. Cheek, and I should have mentioned that earlier and for all the board members, 418 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,000 this is fully the intent of the finance department, the city management team and the utilities 419 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,240 was to take an abbreviated budget presentation forward for the utilities. 420 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,300 What we'll do, and you'll see this is part of the financial discussion, we do fully intend 421 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:33,680 to circle back with the public utility board and city council to have that detailed budget 422 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,440 discussion that you're talking about. 423 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,760 So to talk about raise, to talk about the capital plan in detail and to talk about the 424 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,760 operating budget. 425 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Yeah, it's obvious third. 426 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960 So I think that's what I'm saying. 427 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,760 I think it's going to be redundant. 428 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,840 And all of a sudden we get a detailed budget and go to prove this place. 429 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:56,440 I mean, I would assume, and I shouldn't, that we'd get this budget detail before the council 430 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,400 sees it, because there's so many items now that we're getting either after council's 431 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,080 already approved it. 432 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680 So what's the use in presenting it to the PUB? 433 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,120 I think it's a bad philosophy. 434 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640 There's no reason to have the boards or commissions. 435 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,800 There's zero reason. 436 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,800 We have no, I'm not blaming you, Frank, I'm not blaming the staff at all. 437 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,360 I think it's a philosophy and it comes from the top down. 438 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,680 There's no reason for us to have these boards and commissions that we don't have time to 439 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880 go over the detail and how it affects the city. 440 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Well, Billy, I would just say that we do, again, as Nick said, we do plan to circle 441 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,880 back with the PUB with all the detail on the budget. 442 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:42,520 I think that the reason why we're doing this today is because of the pandemic. 443 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,440 We've certainly over the last several months have been concentrating on that. 444 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,480 And so we do plan to come back to the PUB with all the detail, giving ample time to 445 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,960 consider that and then be able to make a recommendation back to council. 446 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400 We're not asking you for a recommendation to the council today. 447 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,440 This is simply a work session, but we do plan to do that. 448 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,280 And again, it's because of where we are with the pandemic and where we were with the budget, 449 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,280 a lot of uncertainty. 450 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,920 And it's only been in the last couple of weeks that we really had a better idea of where 451 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,520 we were headed and what the impact had been. 452 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:20,880 We've been very open with the PUB and the council that there's a delay in when we knew 453 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,800 that when we would know what the financial impact was, was going to be from the pandemic. 454 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800 And so that's why we're here today. 455 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Okay. 456 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,360 It was the same way last year too, Tony, is what I'm saying. 457 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:38,000 So I mean, this is no change and we're on, we have electronics, there is detail to the 458 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000 budget, I'm sure. 459 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,040 Otherwise you can't formulate these numbers, they've got to come from somewhere. 460 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,360 And I don't understand the reason why that's not included in the agenda pack. 461 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,360 I really don't. 462 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800 And Mr. Sheik, this is Nick again. 463 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,040 We can get that information to you prior to budget adoption. 464 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,000 We're not actually seeking any new formal direction from PUB today. 465 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,040 It's eventually intent to be an informational session to update the PUB where we are. 466 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,720 So before budget adoption and before we ask you to take any action on the budget or rates, 467 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040 we'll get you a detailed budget where you can look at. 468 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Okay. 469 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,040 And I appreciate that, Nick. 470 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,040 I really do. 471 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,920 What I'm saying is a few years ago, you know, this may be the way we used to do it thing, 472 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,720 which everybody hates, we said that, but we had budget season. 473 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560 It wasn't just a budget presentation. 474 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:28,080 Budget season started in the spring and the board would see the details starting in the 475 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,960 spring and start having discussions about, hey, what do we want to do with this section? 476 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,720 Today's water, we're going to go over some of the water deals. 477 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,360 Two weeks later, we go over solid waste and vice versa. 478 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880 I'm just telling you, I don't believe in the philosophy. 479 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,000 I think the boards and commissions become useless at this point if we don't have time 480 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,500 to go over the budget. 481 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:50,620 And I'll leave it at that. 482 00:31:50,620 --> 00:31:57,160 For the record, I'll agree with Billy's comment and also add a couple of things. 483 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:05,080 I know in our last meeting, we had roughly 400 pages of detail and we got those details 484 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,840 on Friday morning, maybe Thursday night, but typically Friday morning and we have our meeting 485 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,360 on Monday morning. 486 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,360 400 pages is a lot of detail to review in 72 hours. 487 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,560 And I realize that that 72 hours is a minimum for the public posting, but I don't believe 488 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,540 there's anything wrong with providing it to the members of the PUB a little earlier so 489 00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:32,960 that we can have a little bit of time to work. 490 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:40,200 And I think a perfect example of Billy's comment is I'm aware that historically at Lake Ray 491 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:46,460 Roberts, we had some hydroelectric production capability and that that has been shuttered 492 00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:54,280 for a number of years, but there is a little bit of hydroelectric capability there. 493 00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:01,120 That would be something to include in this level of discussion at the PUB work session. 494 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,540 If we had several iterations and could have open discussions about this rather than such 495 00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:13,580 formalized presentation, the idea of adding some hydroelectric to our mix seems really 496 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:18,180 desirable to me and a former director of utilities was the one who made me aware of it. 497 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:23,960 So that's an example of something that could be brought to light and we could have a discussion 498 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,960 about it. 499 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,880 It may be that it's unfeasible as heck, that's fine, but the idea of power we don't have 500 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,600 to pay five kilowatt of would be pretty desirable. 501 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,600 Other comments? 502 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Yes, Ed, go ahead. 503 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:48,800 I'd just like to say is with Mr. Cheek's institutional memory, having seen a lot of what's gone down 504 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:59,820 obviously in this on this board, I strongly support examining the means of dissemination 505 00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,760 of the information. 506 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,680 So because it's just in my short time, it is pretty, pretty some of these agendas and 507 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,880 backup materials that you get on Friday and you have to get ready for Monday. 508 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,760 It's pretty, pretty daunting sometimes and especially something like the budget. 509 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:25,320 I see absolutely no reason not to more compartmentalize presentations over an organized schedules. 510 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,720 And I think what he said about budget season is the perfect analogy for this. 511 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:35,320 I think it's a very, very important, obviously very important subject that requires, I think 512 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,000 a little more depth in presentation and discussion from us. 513 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Thank you. 514 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,040 And we did used to get more detailed. 515 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,520 Barbara, you and I were both on here a few years ago. 516 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:53,360 I mean, it would be detailed presentation, two weeks, then you, you know, so you had 517 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,100 time to digest and ask questions before we came back. 518 00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:03,520 And I know this is an unusual year, but like Billy said, maybe last year, maybe we didn't 519 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,520 have it either. 520 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,480 I'm not really remembering and have to go back and look, the years begin to blend. 521 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,440 So Susan, let us, let us take this feedback back and, and take a look at what we've done 522 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,200 in the past and kind of where we are today and let's even come back with some additional 523 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,360 recommendations, obviously maybe too late for this year, but certainly going into next 524 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,360 year. 525 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,360 And this year is a little different. 526 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,360 I understand. 527 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,360 Yeah. 528 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,360 Karen had a question. 529 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,960 Yeah, I just wanted to follow up on Ed's comment. 530 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:38,480 And I only have two years institutional memory on this board, but I've got 13 years of institutional 531 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:46,140 memory on other boards and the whole issue of the 72 hour notice has come up every time. 532 00:35:46,140 --> 00:35:53,160 I've been on, I've been on commissions where I'm representing a neighborhood and I need 533 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:59,600 to give my constituents time to go to the torch and pitchfork store, you know, to get 534 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,720 ready for the meeting next week so that they can attend the meeting prepared. 535 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:05,720 And it was very frustrating. 536 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:12,480 And we did manage to get staff to bump information to the previous Wednesday, just if something 537 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:19,120 came up that was going to be controversial, the commission could get information a little 538 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,480 bit earlier. 539 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,800 But that took probably two years. 540 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,560 So this might be something that needs to come up at the city level or, you know, with boards 541 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:38,080 and commissions as a whole, because nobody can do much in 72 hours, especially if there's 542 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,000 going to be a public hearing and you need to get people prepared to present. 543 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:51,680 So this might be a discussion for, you know, a longer discussion and more general discussion. 544 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:58,000 72 hours is just not, you know, we're sleeping for 40 some of those. 545 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,920 So we need more time. 546 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,160 All right. 547 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:10,760 I agree with that so much, even even when I was on another commission, we had five days 548 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,880 and this turnaround, you've got to be absorbed. 549 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,720 If you want to go out and look at something that's mentioned in this, it doesn't leave 550 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,280 you time to do research. 551 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,680 And so that would be great. 552 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:29,320 And regarding the budget, seems like this is my first time now, but previously when 553 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,640 I was on, we would take one at a time and discuss it. 554 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,800 I know this year's different and I thought, well, maybe this is the new normal here, but 555 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,360 it didn't used to be that way. 556 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:46,000 So anyway, I agree with the remarks that have been made. 557 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000 All right. 558 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000 With that. 559 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Go ahead, Nick. 560 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,840 I'll walk you through the budget slides that we do have for you today. 561 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,960 And of course, we'll follow back up with you on the requested information about a detailed 562 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,960 discussion. 563 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,640 So real quick, the financial assumptions we're going to cover today, Frank, you kind of touched 564 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,080 on this a little bit, the growth in the out years. 565 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,160 We are currently forecasting a 2% growth in forecasted revenues, and I'll show that to 566 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,460 you shortly on the forecast. 567 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:15,740 We are continuing to utilize impact fee funding to revenue fund projects. 568 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:20,200 If you remember last year, we transitioned from using revenue or impact fee funding to 569 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,320 just offset debt service to actually revenue funding projects to mitigate that cost associated 570 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,320 with issuing that debt for those projects. 571 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,800 We do have the Hunter Coal Ranch development included in these forecasts that you will 572 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,760 see starting near 2024. 573 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,200 They do start showing up in both the water, wastewater, and solid waste utilities. 574 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,880 We are forecasting 3% growth in expenses in the out years, and then the Hunter Coal Ranch 575 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,500 statement I made about revenues. 576 00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:49,220 We are currently proposing to the board, we do not have to take any action on this today, 577 00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:53,640 a 2% rate decrease for water customers, so residential and commercial. 578 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,960 We have a few updates to the rate ordinance we want you to look at today and consider 579 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200 in August for adoption. 580 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,320 These are mostly contractual updates and then anything to do with the rate decrease. 581 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,040 So we do fully intend to circle back in November, December to discuss the rates further with 582 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,200 the cost of service study. 583 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,680 The water utility is currently going through a cost of service study. 584 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,560 It will be completed by then and we do plan to come back to the PUB and city council to 585 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:35,120 update you of where our rates weigh up from a cost of service standpoint. 586 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,520 So in the past, we had shown you a five-year forecast. 587 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,720 What we are actually doing this year is showing you a 10-year forecast. 588 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,520 And to be more transparent about the utility and where we look at or what it looks like 589 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680 over the 10-year horizon. 590 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560 So a couple of things I want to point out to you, you can see the 2020 adopted budget 591 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,320 in this column, and this is the current fiscal year we're currently in. 592 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,120 We do have planned use of reserves about $2.9 million. 593 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,280 So this budget was adopted by both the PUB and city council. 594 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,440 There are no rate increases or decreases included in the proposed budget. 595 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,920 End of year estimate, we are really close to being what we originally intended in the 596 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,120 budget, about $2.7 or $2.8 million in reserve usage. 597 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:19,240 A couple of other things in this reform I want to point out, we do currently have a 598 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:23,600 little bit of COVID impact reflected in the water fund of $617,000. 599 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,400 And this is another reason we do want to circle back with the PUB and city council in November 600 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,240 and December this year, we'll actually fully understand what the COVID impact or the COVID 601 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,920 pandemic will have to the utilities at that point, and be able to update the PUB and city 602 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,920 council accordingly. 603 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,520 So that's another reason for those discussions coming up. 604 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,640 And a few other reasons for doing that is our high usage months in the water utility 605 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,440 typically, you know, tends to be July through September. 606 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,200 So we'll have that data of kind of where we finished the year and how many bills are outstanding 607 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,200 at that point. 608 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,780 Moving to your right-hand side, the 2021 proposed budget, I mean, you can't see it in this column, 609 00:40:59,780 --> 00:41:02,920 so we have rate revenue of $39.5 million. 610 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,960 We do have some other revenues in here that you can see, non-rate revenue. 611 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640 We have some revenue funding, impact fee funding. 612 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,200 This is what I mentioned a couple of slides ago, as we are pulling this money into the 613 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,280 operating fund to revenue funds and impact fee eligible projects. 614 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,480 We are using some impact fees to offset debt service of eligible projects, about $3.8 million. 615 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,760 For total resources, about $49 million. 616 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,760 Expenses are $52.9. 617 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,580 You can't see we did planned use of reserves about $3.9 million. 618 00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:35,120 At that point, a couple of slides ago, we are currently proposing a 2% rate decrease 619 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,840 for the water utility. 620 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,040 And this is a little bit different than what we showed you last year. 621 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,040 We had a 2% rate increase in '22 and '23. 622 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,120 That was before the water utility and the management staff had gone back and looked at 623 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,880 the capacity of the water treatment plant facility. 624 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,960 And they plan to do a performance and regulatory upgrade in 2021. 625 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,840 And what that project does and why it's so important, it actually pushes that lake expansion 626 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,680 out to the future years. 627 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,880 So now you can see the construction of the lake expansion is this increase from this 628 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,720 '11 to '18 is actually out there in '27 and '28. 629 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:13,340 So pushing that lake expansion out, allowing more growth to come into the community has 630 00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:17,660 really improved the financial condition of this fund. 631 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:22,320 Moving down the page a little bit further, you can see our operating reserve of $17.7 632 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,760 million. 633 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160 You can see our reserve requirement down here at the bottom. 634 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,160 We've shown it like this for several years now. 635 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,720 So you can see the minimum is 120 days or 33%. 636 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,320 The maximum was 180 days or 50%. 637 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,940 So you can see that 17.8 or 17.7 falls within that range. 638 00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:43,320 It continues to be in that range in the 10-year forecast. 639 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:49,280 Slightly dropping below out here in the future years, just a couple thousand dollars. 640 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,880 Quick question on that. 641 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,120 On the paper you say it's a reserve target. 642 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,120 You said it was a reserve requirement. 643 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,960 Is that something imposed by local statute, by state statute? 644 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,920 No, this is a reserve target for the water utility. 645 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,720 This target is set by the city utilities and finance department. 646 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,000 I will tell you the one thing we're going to be doing this winter is not only looking 647 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,260 at the utilities, but looking at all the funds across the city. 648 00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:20,720 So any special revenue fund that the city has, any internal service fund, and what should 649 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,020 that reserve be? 650 00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:28,040 So hopefully that answers your question, but that is our internal goal is to have that 651 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080 reserve between those reserve requirements. 652 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,320 So that is staff's goal? 653 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,000 Well, Charlie, I would add that the council does have a, did pass an ordinance adopting 654 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,760 a fund balance policy. 655 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,480 And so within that policy, these targets are included in that ordinance. 656 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,520 Okay. 657 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,440 So the city council has approved a target, but it's not a requirement? 658 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,280 Not necessarily a requirement. 659 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,800 Many of the bond rating agencies do want to look at the health of these funds. 660 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,120 And so generally they want to make sure that we have adequate reserves to meet our operating 661 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,760 needs as well as any debts or coverage ratios, which is another measure that's in that financial 662 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,760 statement. 663 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,760 Okay. 664 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,600 For the record, I'm not against the idea of having a good solid target and being physically 665 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,600 stable. 666 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,440 I just didn't know whether it was some state imposed requirement or something done by staff, 667 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:33,440 or if city council is the correct, that's great. 668 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,440 Correct. 669 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,400 Anybody else have any questions or yes, Nick. 670 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,400 Okay. 671 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,400 Nick. 672 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,400 I have a question. 673 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,120 Can you talk about impact fees a little bit and why you budget projects separately for 674 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,120 impact fees? 675 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,120 You bet. 676 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,040 So that's a great question. 677 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,520 So the city under when an impact fee study in 2018 in the fall, the winter of 2018, what 678 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,080 that study does is it looks at any project that the water wastewater utility will do 679 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,320 that's growth related and those projects are deemed impact fee eligible. 680 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,760 There is a consumptive use associated with those projects. 681 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,240 What that consumptive use identifies is how much of that asset can we recover over a 10 682 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:12,240 year period? 683 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:16,520 The study takes it a step further and it divides the projects into already completed and will 684 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,720 be completed in a 10 year horizon or a 10 year period. 685 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,880 So the ones that are completed, of course, we have to fund with debt service. 686 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,320 We pull that money into the operating fund to offset that eligible debt service. 687 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,120 Anything that's a future project, we fund that money. 688 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,460 We fund that project up front using impact fee revenue funding. 689 00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:40,080 Hopefully that addresses your question. 690 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,720 I didn't capture it. 691 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,720 Define for me what an impact fee is. 692 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:47,400 What exactly is an impact fee? 693 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,400 Great question. 694 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,700 One was to build a house in our community, that is the fee to access to city's water 695 00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:57,080 infrastructure or wastewater infrastructure. 696 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,880 So to go out there and to tap onto that wastewater line or that water line, the impact fee is 697 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,620 that set amount to do that. 698 00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:08,440 So it will be charged to that household or charged to that developer. 699 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,480 Okay it's the initial tap fee for one time thing, okay. 700 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,240 Well tap fee and impact fee are two separate things. 701 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,280 The water utility does have a tap fee and an impact fee. 702 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,860 So both of those are charged when someone does tap into the system. 703 00:46:20,860 --> 00:46:24,800 But yes, there are a tap fee and an impact fee to answer your question. 704 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,840 And the impact fee is paid by the particular user, correct? 705 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,840 Yes, sir. 706 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,840 It would be a user. 707 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,840 Yeah. 708 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:40,520 I have another question about slide 10, your 10 year budget presentation. 709 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,400 I think I could share it with the group and Larry correct me if I'm wrong, but I think 710 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,360 I can pull it up and address this question. 711 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:56,820 Okay if you look at the adopted 2020 budget numbers for the capital projects, those numbers 712 00:46:56,820 --> 00:47:01,720 match what you estimate you're going to spend in 2020 also. 713 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:08,000 Meaning that the way I read it, you expect to accomplish and spend 100% of what you have 714 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120 budgeted for those capital items. 715 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,080 That's something that has never been done in the last three or four years. 716 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:22,640 And that was the issue what I was getting at in the previous action item question about 717 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:30,920 why is it that we can identify needed projects, budget for them, sell bonds for them, and 718 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,300 then not get the project done. 719 00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:38,360 This year, according to the way I read your numbers, you're going to get 100% of the projects 720 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,180 done but that's never been done in the last three or four years. 721 00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:48,560 And my question is, what's changed in 2020 compared to the previous years that will allow 722 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:55,600 you to say you're going to get 100% of all these projects done as budgeted? 723 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,600 >> It's a great question also. 724 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,160 And then Frank, you come up and address the projects getting completed standpoint. 725 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,380 From the financial standpoint, right, the 9.3 million Mr. Baffert is talking about is 726 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:07,380 calling out here. 727 00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:09,280 This is the revenue funded capital. 728 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,120 This represents about one fourth of the water CIP. 729 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,280 So entire water CIP is 30 to 40 million. 730 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,880 What we do is we do a couple of different things throughout the year. 731 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,520 So the PUB and City Council adopts a budget and that budget may include $30 million in 732 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,440 capital projects. 733 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,640 Before we actually issue that debt, what we've done in the last few years, staff has taken 734 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,900 a look at it and said, okay, what can we complete this fiscal year? 735 00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:41,200 So this year, for example, in the 2020 budget, we had 20 to 30 million in the capital plan. 736 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,000 Looking back and when Frank and his staff went through those projects, we actually identified 737 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520 we did not need to issue any of those bond proceeds. 738 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,040 But we still do plan to revenue fund some projects as you see called out here. 739 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,600 A large portion of this revenue funding are field service replacement jobs. 740 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,680 So I noticed Susan asked the question earlier about those, you know, replacements under 741 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,880 streets and neighborhoods and such. 742 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,320 A large portion of that is this. 743 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,320 But I also have a financial slide in a couple of slides, Mr. Bafford, that will hopefully 744 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,600 address your capital question a little bit better to kind of show that historical spend 745 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,600 down. 746 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,360 Three or four years, you're absolutely correct, three or four years ago, the water utility 747 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,120 had a large amount of money that was unencumbered and projects were not getting done. 748 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,800 I thank staff that here lately, those projects have been getting done and we've actually 749 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,400 drawn down on that amount of money available in the water utility. 750 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,160 And I'll show that to you shortly in that slide I'm talking about. 751 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,720 Does that address your question or has you got more operational questions I can get Frank 752 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:37,920 to come up and address? 753 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,600 Oh, I'll look forward to see what you have down the road here. 754 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,360 And if it doesn't answer your question, we'll be happy to provide you additional detail 755 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,360 down the road. 756 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,760 This is our first attempt to help answer your question. 757 00:49:49,760 --> 00:50:03,720 We'll pull it back up if that's okay, Susan. 758 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:05,920 So this is the five-year capital plan. 759 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,440 This isn't the slide to address your question, Mr. Bafford. 760 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:14,200 This is the adopted or what will be considered for adoption by PUV and City Council in the 761 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,200 coming months. 762 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,360 So you can see in 2021, we have $35.5 million in debt issuance. 763 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,920 Plan projects that we plan to complete in 2021. 764 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,400 Revenue funding, this is coming from the operating fund. 765 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,680 So rate revenue, we have about $12.9 or $13 million in project funding. 766 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,000 Impact fee funding, which we call it on the five-year forecast, is about $2.7. 767 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,200 We have some aid in construction and some fee accord replacement. 768 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,760 So total CIP for 2021 is $51.7 million or $51.8. 769 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,160 Over the five-year period, you can see that number is just around $100 million. 770 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,560 So I'll get into a detailed discussion about the projects that are getting completed here 771 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,560 shortly. 772 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,840 But to my earlier point, this would be the amount included in the budget. 773 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,280 What staff does before we formally issue this debt in the water utility, we actually do 774 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:10,640 look at our project schedule and what can we complete that fiscal year. 775 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,200 So this is the kind of project timeline of some projects we currently have. 776 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,640 This is not a complete list of everything in the water utility. 777 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,800 We did pick out the majority of the larger projects, the ones that we can have that discussion 778 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,200 with you today about. 779 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,320 There are several field service replacement projects that are smaller than this that are 780 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,320 cash-funded. 781 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,520 But starting at the top, you know, Elm and Locust, you can see the budgeted amount in 782 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,880 this column of $950,000. 783 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,960 What the expenses are today, what's unencumbered, and the funds remaining. 784 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,840 And then one thing we wanted to provide you is kind of, you know, what was that estimated 785 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:49,520 completion date, which in this project is January 31st of 2020. 786 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,860 I'd like to draw your attention to this number down here, this $10.9 million. 787 00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:58,060 These projects make up about $10.9 million, about $14 million that's currently unencumbered 788 00:51:58,060 --> 00:51:59,760 in the water utility. 789 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,520 Three years ago, that $14 million was about $25 to $30 million. 790 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,080 So over the last two or three years, the water utility and Frank and his staff have done 791 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,280 a great job getting these projects completed, and we've actually brought that unencumbered 792 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,920 amount down in the water utility. 793 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,440 Does anyone have any detailed question on these projects that Frank can come up and address 794 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,440 from a completion standpoint? 795 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:27,080 This looks like it, Nick. 796 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,080 Okay. 797 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,460 So this is not a complete list. 798 00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:36,200 The ordinance will come back to you, Mr. Cheek, as you had said about that detail. 799 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,560 Before we ask you to adopt a rate ordinance, you will get a complete red line ordinance 800 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,520 that will have all the rate changes identified in it. 801 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,760 So looking at the 2% decrease across the water utility, that's the direction we get from 802 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,760 the PUB. 803 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,500 For residential, we use a 3/4 inch meter. 804 00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:55,280 This is the most common meter size in the residential water utility, and you can see 805 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,160 the current rate that's currently in place is $16. 806 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:04,480 This is the facility charge, but the 2% decrease, this would go to 1568. 807 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,840 Our volume charge from zero to 15,000 gallons, and it is charged per 1,000 gallon, it's 415 808 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,840 per 1,000. 809 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,940 This would decrease to 407. 810 00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:17,300 And then commercial, we use a 2 inch meter, so the facility charge currently in place 811 00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:22,880 is 5150, but the 2% decrease would be $50.47. 812 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,360 The volume charge for commercial per 1,000 gallon is 445. 813 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,360 This would decrease to 436. 814 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,840 There are a couple other rates I wanted to update the PUB on today. 815 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,960 These are contractual agreements that we have for wholesale water agreements that are out 816 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,960 there. 817 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,640 So the Wholesale Raw Water Service to the Upper Trinity Regional Water District, this 818 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,460 is a rate we update every single year. 819 00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:46,160 It's currently set at .7401. 820 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:52,560 This rate is 85% of the Dallas wholesale rate, so that rate would go to .7578. 821 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,400 And then the pass through Lake Chapman, this is another rate we update. 822 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,480 According to the agreement, this one adjusts annually on a CPI adjuster for the month of 823 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,480 June. 824 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:08,440 So this rate would increase from .0270 to .0275. 825 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,040 Like I said, this is not an all-inclusive list that will come back to the Public Utility 826 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,820 Board in a red line rate ordinance that lists all the rates. 827 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:19,840 What we wanted to show, and we showed this to council last year too, and I think we've 828 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,580 historically shown at the PUB in the previous years, this is what an average residential 829 00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:27,160 customer could expect to pay in the city of Denton. 830 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,920 So at the top, you saw the electric utility last week. 831 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,280 We are currently not forecasting any rate changes in that utility. 832 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,480 Water we do based on 9,200 gallons. 833 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:43,360 You can see what a customer would pay in the proposed budget of .5310, which is at 2% decrease. 834 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,560 In wastewater, which you haven't seen this one yet, we're not proposing any rate changes 835 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,240 for the wastewater utility, 3,115 would be the rate. 836 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:55,760 And then solid waste, we are currently proposing a $1 decrease for residential customers, which 837 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,560 would take that rate to $20.51. 838 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,680 So total is $229.56. 839 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,000 So this would be a decrease for the average residential customer of $2.08. 840 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,180 A couple of other things, if you do remember, the PUB and city council both approved the 841 00:55:10,180 --> 00:55:16,520 mid-year rate decrease last November and December for the residential solid waste customers, 842 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,520 the $3. 843 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:26,640 So previously, this rate was $24.51, but you have an asterisk, it is currently $21.51. 844 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,240 So this presentation, we'll go to council tomorrow, August the 4th. 845 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,920 We do intend to circle back with the PUB in the coming weeks. 846 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,040 The state may change based on our discussion today. 847 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,040 So maybe later in August, when we get that detailed information to the public utility 848 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,040 board. 849 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,920 And then September 15th, the city council is currently scheduled to adopt the budget 850 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,680 and tax rate and the capital plan. 851 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,080 And as I previously mentioned, circling back with the public utility board in December 852 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,680 of 2020, with that mid-year budget and rate discussion, when we fully understand the impact 853 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,880 from the COVID pandemic. 854 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,400 And with that, I will pull it down. 855 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,680 That concludes the financial portion of water. 856 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,760 I'll turn it back over to Frank to go over the operations for wastewater shortly, if 857 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,920 you don't have any questions. 858 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,960 Anybody have questions? 859 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:17,600 You're on mute. 860 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,320 My apologies. 861 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:28,420 In terms of the rate structure, if you could guesstimate, do you have just kind of a shoot 862 00:56:28,420 --> 00:56:34,800 from the hip kind of cost per thousand that it costs you to operate? 863 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:42,720 I mean, is it roughly, you know, $3.75 per thousand, $4 per thousand, $40 per thousand? 864 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,160 Mr. Parker, in front of me right now, I do not have that number. 865 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,840 I will tell you that that number will is currently being revised in that cost of service study 866 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,040 that will come back to the public utility board in November. 867 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,240 But we can look it up based on our current cost of service and I can provide that number 868 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,240 to get a follow-up response. 869 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:07,760 Okay, not asking for precision, but is that number in the 30s, the 40s, the 50s, 60s? 870 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,880 The number is close to the number that you see in the presentation. 871 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,780 So every year we do update a cost of service study that looks at the facility charge and 872 00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:16,840 looks at the volume charge. 873 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,760 But to give you an exact number, I don't have it in front of me right now, Mr. Parker. 874 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,080 The intent of the cost of service study is to make sure we just recover our costs and 875 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,160 nothing more. 876 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,680 That's correct. 877 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,680 That's correct. 878 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,360 And we do cost of service studies. 879 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,840 Solid waste went through one, I think it was two years ago. 880 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,680 Water and wastewater are both going through one now. 881 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,600 And what that cost of service study do, right, it'll give us staff a working model that we 882 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,320 can update annually, usually for about a five-year period. 883 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,280 So we update these every five years. 884 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,440 We will also, we intend to have a rate discussion and a cost of service discussion with you 885 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,940 for the electric utility in November, December this year also. 886 00:57:57,940 --> 00:58:04,200 So there'll be four rate discussions for each of the utilities in detail coming up in November, 887 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,200 December. 888 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,200 Okay. 889 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:18,160 I guess my question was, it looks like, is it $48 per thousand that we have for the top 890 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,640 commercial cost? 891 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,160 Let me pull it right back up here. 892 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:34,320 Hang on, just bear with me a second, Mr. Parker. 893 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:40,360 Is this the slide you're referring to for the wastewater, for the water rate? 894 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,520 Water rates, probably two behind that, I think. 895 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,520 Okay. 896 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,840 My memory serves me correct. 897 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,840 Slide 13, I believe, there. 898 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,840 This one? 899 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,840 Okay. 900 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,760 So you're charging $4.45 per thousand. 901 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,200 That's correct. 902 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:03,240 And then for the lowest residential, looks like you're getting $4.15. 903 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,660 And I would expect that to be residential being slightly lower, but about the same. 904 00:59:08,660 --> 00:59:16,680 What are the top commercial and top residential rates you're using right now? 905 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,240 For the highest tier, is that your question? 906 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,440 For the low tier, above zero to $15,000. 907 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,440 I can get that for you. 908 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,440 Hang on just a second. 909 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,440 I have it. 910 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:32,560 Hang on just a second. 911 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:48,640 Mr. Parker. 912 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,360 So for commercial service, we actually have a volume charge for inside the city of Denton 913 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,360 at $4.45. 914 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,840 So to answer your question, we do currently not have a tier in place. 915 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,800 There's a $4.45 charge for commercial customers per thousand gallon. 916 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,500 It's a little bit different. 917 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:08,440 Residential does have a tiered structure to incentivize water conservation. 918 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,480 So what I was showing you is zero to 15,000 gallon. 919 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:20,040 As you step up on the residential water side, over 50,000 gallons would be 415 if you're 920 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,040 in the winter. 921 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:27,280 But in the summer, when we're incentivizing that conservation, it goes to $10.90. 922 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:36,240 So right now you're charging large residential users more than double what you charge commercial? 923 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,560 For over 50,000 gallons. 924 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,840 That is currently the way that the rate ordinance is set up. 925 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:48,440 If you went over 50,000 gallon, your per thousand gallon rate would be $10.90. 926 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,520 So to answer your question, yes. 927 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:59,560 If a residential customer did go over 50,000 gallons, it would be double. 928 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:09,440 That seems out of line to me for people who are on semi-agricultural or larger products 929 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760 or homes. 930 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:17,480 That seems awfully punitive when somebody like, I don't know, Safety Clean, I don't 931 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:24,700 mean to pick on them as an example, is paying less than half of the rate of someone who 932 01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:29,280 lives on a large or old residential property. 933 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,240 That seems like a very large difference. 934 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,360 I certainly understand incentivizing lower usage. 935 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,600 That makes sense. 936 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:45,560 But doubling the rate seems a little overly punitive, in my opinion. 937 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:50,080 So Charlie, just a question for you on your comment. 938 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:58,760 Are you saying it's not fair to the residential, whereas commercial residential should be more 939 01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,760 in line? 940 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,800 Or are you saying it's just too much? 941 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,800 Yes. 942 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:05,800 I don't understand. 943 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:12,280 It seems, you know, I looked up Gainesville because it's a nearby city. 944 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:19,440 And Gainesville is like 48 per thousand for everybody or for all residential. 945 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:25,560 And Denton has chosen to have a punitive rate for large residential users. 946 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:33,480 It just seems to me that that's a little too high a punitive rate relative to the commercial. 947 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,440 The commercial is 48 cents, almost $11 per thousand. 948 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,440 Seems pretty punitive. 949 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,940 Yeah. 950 01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:45,160 So I'll comment on that, and I think this is the philosophy. 951 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:54,320 I'm putting words in mixed mouth here, but the commercial user is using that for manufacturing 952 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,020 or whatever purposes it may be. 953 01:02:57,020 --> 01:03:03,400 And so they're using that water to do their business, whereas the residential is doing 954 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,360 to be somebody overwatering a major amount, I would assume. 955 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,440 And the philosophy is you're trying to sell water to the commercial user, but we're trying 956 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,160 to promote saving water to the residential user. 957 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,400 Is that correct, Nate? 958 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,400 Yes, Mr. Jake. 959 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,400 That is correct. 960 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:25,760 That is for over irrigation that this incentivizes people to over irrigate their yards. 961 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:31,000 And one other thing, Mr. Parker, I was trying to find you on the screen here really quick. 962 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,540 So the over $50,000 is going from the incremental amount. 963 01:03:34,540 --> 01:03:37,720 So anything over $50,000 would be charged at that $1090. 964 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,360 Anything under the other rate would still apply. 965 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,200 So let's make sure I clarify that really quick. 966 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,080 So anything leading up that $50,000 -- sorry, Susan. 967 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,200 No, $50,000 in a residential is a lot of water. 968 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,200 Yeah. 969 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,200 Agreed. 970 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,200 A lot of water. 971 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:59,640 And won't this be addressed when we do the cost of service study again, because we do 972 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,720 it by class? 973 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,720 Yeah. 974 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,720 Yeah. 975 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,800 And our full intent is to have the consultant here to help us address these questions with 976 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,400 the Public Utility Board. 977 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:15,320 Staff will have a presentation that will be detailed to go through these rates in a full 978 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,320 presentation. 979 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,240 And you can look at each one of them separately and ask those questions. 980 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,240 Absolutely. 981 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,240 And this is Tony. 982 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,480 And that will be in November. 983 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,960 We'll have that ready for you in work session. 984 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:26,960 Russ. 985 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,080 Yes, I have a question about Hunter coal. 986 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:35,880 I believe you said you incorporated those numbers in beginning 2024 into your budget 987 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,800 figures. 988 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,720 My question is, how did you phase that in? 989 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:47,040 Obviously, in 2024, Hunter coal is not going to be 100% built. 990 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,720 You would probably phase that in over a period of years. 991 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,120 What kind of assumptions did you make there? 992 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,280 That's a great question. 993 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,040 And Frank can definitely give us a little more detail on that. 994 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,520 But the city did contract with a consultant to come in to look at the Hunter coal ranch 995 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,520 development. 996 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,080 What the consultant did, they did look at the phased in approach to that development. 997 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,640 So starting near 2024, you're absolutely correct. 998 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,180 There's not 100% of those residents in commercial businesses going to be built at once. 999 01:05:12,180 --> 01:05:14,000 So this is a phased in approach. 1000 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,880 So there is some showing up in 2024, but it's minimum in the total size of that development. 1001 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,160 So it is not everything at once. 1002 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:26,760 It is just what that study identified as being online and needing water service or wastewater 1003 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,360 service starting in 2024. 1004 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:37,400 I would think you could maybe present that in one table with years in the dollar amount 1005 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:43,000 per year contribution to the budget or demand on the budget. 1006 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,560 Yeah, we can we can summarize that for you, Mr. Bafford. 1007 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,880 All right, I think we need to move on. 1008 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:56,960 Okay, one quick question, I'm sorry, what, Nick, what's the hydrants estimate for charges 1009 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,240 going to be? 1010 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:05,200 I haven't, Mr. Sheik, I don't have the hydrants in front of me right now and what that what 1011 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,060 the new rate will be. 1012 01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:10,120 For today's presentation, we went through and looked at the 2% decrease for residential 1013 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,120 commercial. 1014 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,040 But that will come back with you at that red line ordinance and you can look at it in detail. 1015 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,280 And then it's 15 to 20 pages, so it'll have all the rates outlined for you. 1016 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,280 Great. 1017 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,760 Thank you. 1018 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:37,920 Okay, with that, I will turn it back over to Frank to go through wastewater. 1019 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:38,920 Thank you, Nick. 1020 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:48,560 Madam Chair, PUP member, Frank Pugsley, Water and Wastewater Utilities Director, back with 1021 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:49,560 you again. 1022 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:50,560 Skip ahead here. 1023 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,560 Where are we, Nick? 1024 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,560 There we go. 1025 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,560 Wastewater utilities. 1026 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:54,680 Excuse me. 1027 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,440 And I may repeat a few of the things I said earlier, just in case there are new people 1028 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,160 listening to the wastewater presentation. 1029 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,160 So please excuse me. 1030 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,080 I'll still try to keep some of those brief. 1031 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:10,240 Again, some accomplishments and future goals, taking a little retrospective on the wastewater 1032 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,480 department. 1033 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:16,880 This past fiscal year, we did complete the requirements of our EPA administrative order, 1034 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,680 which essentially required us to reduce sanitary sewer overflows. 1035 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:26,880 We've very successfully done that through our extensive cleaning and maintenance programs. 1036 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:32,880 And we are getting very close to completing the Hickory Creek lift station replacement. 1037 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,760 You discussed it earlier a little bit about the root cause analysis for those failures. 1038 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,120 We've had significant issues with that facility over the last two years or so. 1039 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:48,120 We have a permanent tip-ray solution in place right now, and the new lift station will be 1040 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,540 online later this year. 1041 01:07:50,540 --> 01:07:54,840 And we should be in good shape there for quite a while. 1042 01:07:54,840 --> 01:08:00,620 Some of our future goals are to complete the design of the phase one of the Pecan Creek 1043 01:08:00,620 --> 01:08:04,720 Wastewater Treatment Plant expansion, and that's to handle general growth in the city, 1044 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,600 as well as some of the increases we expect from the Hunter and Cole Ranch. 1045 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:16,360 And to prepare an extensively updated wastewater collection system master plan that will help 1046 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,600 guide us in our capital improvement plans moving forward. 1047 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,600 Again, philosophical changes, we have worked diligently over the last 12 to 18 months to 1048 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,120 really focus on improving the culture in our department, break down the silos, and make 1049 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:36,160 sure all of our staff are comfortable functioning together, working with other departments from 1050 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:41,440 tech services, public works, capital projects, so that we can be our most efficient selves 1051 01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:45,960 at the city of Denton, and innovative planning and cost savings. 1052 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:52,400 We are conducting a capacity expansion at Pecan Creek Water Treatment Plant, or Wastewater 1053 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:57,820 Recovery Plant, Wastewater Treatment Plant, by doing some improvements to existing processes, 1054 01:08:57,820 --> 01:09:03,440 no actual physical expansions to volumes at the plant, we're doing this with a chemically 1055 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:08,480 enhanced primary treatment process, and we're going to step into it in phases. 1056 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:12,520 The first phase I mentioned is one of our goals for this year, is to expand the solids 1057 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:20,360 handling program, then we will expand the filtration capacity and then implement the 1058 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,940 stepped process itself. 1059 01:09:22,940 --> 01:09:28,120 And again, our asset management program that the software package we use to assign a score 1060 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,840 to every pipe in the city so that we know we're replacing the right pipes at the right 1061 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,920 time and also using those scores to collaborate with the streets department and tie those 1062 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,840 together with their street condition index so we make sure we're building the right CIP 1063 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,100 projects for the city. 1064 01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:51,640 The operational data for wastewater collection, we intend to complete CCTV inspection of 120,000 1065 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:56,800 linear feet of wastewater lines, gravity lines this year, as well as complete cleaning of 1066 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:02,800 675,000 feet, and those goals carry forward to the next year. 1067 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,520 Our major maintenance, the replacement of aging infrastructure, again, I'll touch on 1068 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:11,320 a little bit, but historically we haven't outsourced much replacement, and through the 1069 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:16,300 collaboration with the street program and our asset management system, we've reset our 1070 01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:20,880 minimum replacement to 24,000 linear feet a year. 1071 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:27,640 This year, we will hit about 37, 38,000 linear feet and intend to make 40,000 linear feet 1072 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:33,000 of major maintenance replacements next year, and again, we'll use that outsourcing to ramp 1073 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,880 up and ramp down our replacement so that we can meet that 24,000 linear foot goal, because 1074 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,560 we can turn, again, outsourcing on and off, but we can't turn on and off our crews for 1075 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,720 emergency response in towns. 1076 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,920 We want to make sure we keep our guys who work for the city fully utilized and we can 1077 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:56,600 use outside contractors to fill in the gaps where we need. 1078 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:02,480 Our employee summary for the wastewater department, we began the year with 125 full-time employees 1079 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:04,160 on the books. 1080 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:10,680 We ended up with 31 vacancies through unfilled positions and the VSP departures. 1081 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:16,800 We were approved to refill 18 of those, leaving us with 112 FTEs today and carrying into next 1082 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:22,480 fiscal year, so that estimated salary savings brings us almost $2 million, $990,000 in salary 1083 01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:26,880 savings, and you'll see the positions that were eliminated from the budget in the bulleted 1084 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,240 list, and again, we've done all this with really no reductions in level of service, 1085 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:36,840 and we've done that through efficiently reallocating some of the responsibilities as well as those 1086 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:42,240 partnerships and cooperation with other departments, so we make sure we are being as efficient 1087 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,800 as practical. 1088 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:50,920 In the org chart, you'll remember, of course, Ken Banks, our general manager of utilities, 1089 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:56,840 his six direct reports, and each one of our functional responsibilities, and again, just 1090 01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:02,160 in case someone new is listening, the Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center, that educational 1091 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,160 programming and sustainable schools initiative program, is going to be transferred to the 1092 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:14,000 parks department, and Gary Packin will definitely discuss more of that with everyone in the 1093 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,920 future during their presentations. 1094 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:23,960 With that, I will open it up to operational questions. 1095 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:24,960 >> Any questions? 1096 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,160 >> Yeah, I forget. 1097 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:34,840 On slide number four, on infrastructure replacements, there's three columns, there's three columns 1098 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,020 on slide number four, all of which are labeled 2019. 1099 01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:44,320 >> Hang on, let me go back there. 1100 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,320 >> Maybe incorrect. 1101 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,320 >> Oh, yeah. 1102 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,320 >> Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. 1103 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:48,320 Yes, that's a typo. 1104 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,320 It should be '17, '18, '19. 1105 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,320 >> Okay. 1106 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,320 >> Yes, sir. 1107 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:52,320 >> Any other questions? 1108 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:57,320 Let me switch so I can see your hands. 1109 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,320 All right. 1110 01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,320 Greenwich. 1111 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,020 >> Thank you very much. 1112 01:13:02,020 --> 01:13:04,200 I will hand it back over to Nick. 1113 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,600 >> Susan, this is Tony. 1114 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,520 I just wanted to just bring your attention to the time. 1115 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,520 >> Yes. 1116 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:22,320 >> Thank you, Frank. 1117 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:27,520 Actually really quick, Daniel Kramer is going to come up and go through drainage. 1118 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,400 Once Daniel gets through drainage, I'll go through the financials for both. 1119 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:37,320 So let me turn it over to Daniel really quick. 1120 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:41,800 >> Good morning, Daniel. 1121 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:48,680 >> Good morning, Madam Chair, PUB members, it's Daniel Kramer, Deputy Director of Operations 1122 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,680 for Public Works. 1123 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,560 I'll be here talking about our drainage department. 1124 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:57,600 A few of our accomplishments and future goals that we've had for the past year, we've had 1125 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,240 multiple projects we've been able to complete. 1126 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:06,680 We did hit our goal of 25% of drainage inlands inspected over the past year. 1127 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:11,200 Some of our future goals we'll be working towards is going for a full inspect and grade 1128 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,400 of our existing storm drain systems. 1129 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,320 Currently right now we do know the sizes and the capacity of our systems, but with some 1130 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,280 of the neighborhood failures and stuff that we've seen recently in some of the storm drains, 1131 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,560 we're looking at getting a CCTV out throughout them so we can actually get a good grade on 1132 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,120 them, similar to what we use for our streets and our OCI. 1133 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,160 Also working on public awareness for our departments and making sure that everybody understands 1134 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:40,840 exactly what the drainage department does, because right now I think a lot of it is just 1135 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,120 what happens when there's an emergency and not what we do, normal maintenance and keeping 1136 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,560 stuff up. 1137 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,680 We're also working with our capital projects. 1138 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,680 We're going to work with engineering to reevaluate the whole capital program for drainage and 1139 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,640 make sure that we are all on the same page when it comes to the overall drainage plan 1140 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,520 for the city. 1141 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:06,080 Some of the service level changes that we've had here pre and post COVID. 1142 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:12,140 Every year we're going to continue our 100% inspection of our concrete line channels. 1143 01:15:12,140 --> 01:15:15,800 We make sure we go through those every single year to make sure everything's flowing correctly 1144 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,880 just in case we have any weather events. 1145 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,720 Our earthen channels, we had ramped up last year with the addition of a new inspection 1146 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,080 crew. 1147 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,760 That will actually drop as I'll go through with our FTEs on how we had some changes with 1148 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:34,800 COVID, how it affected us with our VSP and also some other people leaving throughout 1149 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,440 the department. 1150 01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:42,600 And as I said before, we did hit our 25 inspection of inlets over the past year. 1151 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,520 Post COVID, like I said, we'll continue with our concrete channels. 1152 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,720 Our earthen channels will just be down to the major earthen channels that we inspect 1153 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,160 every year, and the rest of them will be on an as-needed basis. 1154 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:59,640 And our inlet inspection will drop a little bit to 10%. 1155 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:05,840 Some of the operational data as we've been going through this past year, we mow roughly 1156 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,940 155 acres, and we do try to hit four cycles per year. 1157 01:16:10,940 --> 01:16:14,000 And currently we're on goal to hit that for this year. 1158 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:21,960 Lane miles swept, we do roughly about 10 cycles per year, about 770 lane miles. 1159 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:27,920 Now that comes up, as you can see on the goal, it actually is 7,800, but the 77 lane miles 1160 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,720 swept does not include our thoroughfares, which we do every Friday, which is around 1161 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,280 the square Elm and Locust, that we do hit those on Fridays. 1162 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:41,760 And our concrete channel inspection, we're still already had those full inspection for 1163 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,440 this year, and so we'll be good on that. 1164 01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:53,960 As said with our FTEs, we did lose actually our drainage manager and supervisor, and also 1165 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,660 one of our heavy equipment operators to the VSP this past year. 1166 01:16:58,660 --> 01:17:03,200 We did refill, instead of refilling both the manager and the supervisor, we refilled the 1167 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:09,840 supervisor position, and we're going to leave the manager position vacant for the time being. 1168 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:17,620 And we also did refill the heavy equipment operator. 1169 01:17:17,620 --> 01:17:23,200 For the organizational chart, we did go through, as you can see, we pretty much lost the entire 1170 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,840 crew that we did add last year for inspection. 1171 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,480 That's why our inspection numbers have gone down. 1172 01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:32,760 We are looking at different ways to move forward to be more efficient, and how we can use our 1173 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:38,880 personnel the best way and focus towards maintenance going forward. 1174 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:39,880 Any questions? 1175 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:40,880 I have one. 1176 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:41,880 Billy. 1177 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:42,880 Daniel, it's Billy Chief. 1178 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:43,880 Mr. Chief. 1179 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,880 Hey. 1180 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:53,280 One thing that you kind of touched on a little bit about your grading, and I tell you, I've 1181 01:17:53,280 --> 01:18:01,520 noticed a tremendous difference the past few years in the way the city drains for the better. 1182 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:10,680 It seems like the downstream grading and clearing of brush and debris and the open ditches wasn't 1183 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:11,680 being done very well. 1184 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,840 Now it looks really good, so you guys are doing a great job keeping this water moving, 1185 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,800 because there's been a lot of it. 1186 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:20,800 Well thank you, sir, Mr. Chief. 1187 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:26,680 We have been working to make sure that we focus on our maintenance as much as possible, 1188 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,320 and also with the multiple large scale CIP projects they have been doing in drainage 1189 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,080 that's helped out a lot also. 1190 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,600 Good stuff. 1191 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,600 Other questions? 1192 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,600 Okay. 1193 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,600 Nick's back up. 1194 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,600 Thank you. 1195 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,600 I'm back. 1196 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:52,800 Thank you, Daniel. 1197 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,720 As a reminder, for any PB members, I think everybody's aware of this. 1198 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:01,280 Drainage is part of the wastewater fund, so we do present drainage separately, but it 1199 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,400 does roll up ultimately into the wastewater fund. 1200 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:08,080 I'll show that to you here shortly in the forecast also. 1201 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:14,080 So similar to the water utility, we are forecasting 2% growth in forecasted revenues for wastewater. 1202 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:18,080 We are continuing to utilize impact fee funding just like we do in water in the wastewater 1203 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,760 fund. 1204 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,000 We have 3% growth forecast in the out years for expenses. 1205 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,840 Here's that hunter coal ranch development is accounted for in the wastewater utility 1206 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,680 in the financial picture as it is for water. 1207 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,760 And then rates, we are currently forecasting no rate changes for the wastewater utility. 1208 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:40,440 So the 10-year forecast, so in an effort to increase transparency, we've historically 1209 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:42,040 showed the 5-year forecast. 1210 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,520 We started showing the 10-year forecast in utilities to kind of give you that long-range 1211 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,240 forecast what the utility looks like. 1212 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,400 Similar to water, I'll start in the 2020 column. 1213 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,920 You can see the adopted budget here. 1214 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,680 We had $1.6 million in reserve usage for the wastewater utility. 1215 01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:01,440 End of your forecast, we are coming in just about budget, a little bit under about $1.9 1216 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:02,440 million. 1217 01:20:02,440 --> 01:20:06,280 Similar to water, we're currently accounting for some COVID impact in the wastewater utility 1218 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,280 of $389,000. 1219 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:13,240 One of the intents of circling back in December is to help quantify this amount and true this 1220 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,360 amount up as we receive that data back from customer service. 1221 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,760 So finishing the year, you can see we've got about $13.3 million in reserves in the wastewater 1222 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,760 utility. 1223 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:28,320 Moving forward in the proposed budget column in 2021, you can see rate revenue right in 1224 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:33,360 here is $30.5 million, non-rate revenue of $2.3. 1225 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,520 Impact fee funding of $500,000 is a little bit less in the wastewater utility. 1226 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:43,240 We don't have any minimum amount of eligible impact fee projects scheduled to be done next 1227 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,840 year that can be revenue funded. 1228 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:49,920 We're using about $3.7 impact funding to offset eligible debt. 1229 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,840 No usage of reserves is forecasted in 2021. 1230 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:57,240 We actually do show a little bit of profit at $292,000. 1231 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,520 You can see the 0% here in the green. 1232 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,120 Ending fund balance at $13.4. 1233 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:06,520 Here's that reserve requirement or reserve target for the wastewater fund, so a minimum 1234 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:11,680 of $10.3 with the top in $14.4. 1235 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:17,440 Going out into the future years, the wastewater utility does get a little bit below the minimum 1236 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:23,000 reserve requirement starting in fiscal year 2029, so you can see in '29 and 2030, we're 1237 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,680 a little bit below the minimum target, but I do want to point out this 10-year forecast 1238 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,760 has no rate increases within a 10-year period. 1239 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,240 So that may be something we had to circle back with the public utility board in the 1240 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,240 future. 1241 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,240 We'll keep you updated. 1242 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:45,680 So the five-year capital plan for the wastewater fund, so in 2021, the proposed budget, $32.8 1243 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:52,600 million in planned projects, 5.3 in revenue funding, 500,000 impact fee funding. 1244 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:57,840 You can see some aid in construction of $82,000 and vehicle replacement of $1.2 million. 1245 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,680 So the grand total is $40 million, and as previously said, the wastewater utility will 1246 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,000 not automatically issue the $32.8 million. 1247 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,160 Staff will go through and look at the projects that are slated to be completed and what is 1248 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:15,160 the need of the wastewater utility as far as bond proceeds. 1249 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,820 Same slide we showed in water, so we picked out the major projects within wastewater. 1250 01:22:18,820 --> 01:22:23,000 This does exclude some of the field service replacement projects that are revenue funded. 1251 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:28,240 At the very top, similar to water, you can see Elm and Locust in the budget of $92,000, 1252 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,420 for example, with the completion date of 131 in 2020. 1253 01:22:32,420 --> 01:22:38,120 So all of these projects currently make up about $15.9 million in remaining funding that 1254 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,120 is out there for these projects. 1255 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,800 I do want to point out that Frank and his staff, just like in water, have done a great 1256 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,540 job in wastewater in the last two or three years of really utilizing the existing funding 1257 01:22:46,540 --> 01:22:50,760 that is out there in these projects, looking at what needs to be completed, and from a 1258 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:56,080 financial standpoint, really done a good job of looking at minimizing any bond issuances 1259 01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:02,680 that are not required for the projects that are currently slated to be completed. 1260 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,400 The drainage forecast, this is a component of the tenure that you just saw. 1261 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,800 We've just separated out here for transparency reasons. 1262 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:18,000 So for 2021, you can see planned revenue of $5.4 million, and this is made up of drainage 1263 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,680 fees in the community, residential drainage fees, and non-residential, so commercial. 1264 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:27,720 So one's $1.9 and one's $3.1 for a total of $5.4, with some miscellaneous revenue added 1265 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:28,720 in there. 1266 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,920 And the expense budget, to support Daniel's budget that he just came up here and presented 1267 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,960 to you is about $5.4 million. 1268 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,320 We do segregate $1 million in reserves for the drainage fund, and this is a component 1269 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,200 of wastewater. 1270 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:49,080 This is the utility rates file that I showed you before, so you can see the overall decrease 1271 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:54,400 for residential customers of $2.08, with that mid-year rate reduction for residential customers 1272 01:23:54,400 --> 01:24:01,140 of $3, so from $24.51 to $21.51. 1273 01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:05,320 Kind of the steps forward, so tomorrow, council will review this presentation with the rest 1274 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:06,320 of the utilities. 1275 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,440 They have already seen electric, but they have not seen water, wastewater, and solid 1276 01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:11,440 waste. 1277 01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:15,000 On the August 10th date, the state will more likely change based on the discussion of PV 1278 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,000 todays. 1279 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,920 We'll come back later in August to seek your approval. 1280 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,560 City council approval of the budget is September 15th, with that detailed budget and rate discussion 1281 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:29,000 and cost of service discussion in November-December timeframe. 1282 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,280 That concludes the wastewater and drainage presentations. 1283 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,280 I'll pull it down for questions. 1284 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,800 All right, Nick, no questions. 1285 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:48,920 I will ask Brian Burner to come up and present the operational information for solid waste. 1286 01:24:48,920 --> 01:25:01,360 Well, good morning, Madam Chair, members of the committee. 1287 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:02,360 My name is Brian Burner. 1288 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,720 I'm the director of environmental, excuse me, I'm the director of solid waste for the 1289 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,720 city of Denton. 1290 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:13,360 Appreciate the opportunity to run through our 2021 operational budget and capital program. 1291 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,880 This last year has been a tremendous year for the department in and of itself. 1292 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,680 We've had several major accomplishments. 1293 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:27,680 We've implemented the downtown trash, valet trash recycling program to much acclaim. 1294 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:32,040 We have started our new yard waste program, and currently we have about 22% of our residential 1295 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,720 customers actually signed up for that. 1296 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:39,340 And as a result of the implementation of this program, we've actually seen a significant 1297 01:25:39,340 --> 01:25:43,400 reduction in worker compensation claims due to yard waste collection. 1298 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:48,280 So knock on wood, we have not had any employees injured as a result of yard waste collections 1299 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,280 in this year. 1300 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:54,280 So outstanding program there. 1301 01:25:54,280 --> 01:26:01,480 Based on the improvements of our collection fleet, uptime is significant. 1302 01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:07,040 And as a result, downtime repairs, maintenance has fallen off significantly. 1303 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:13,080 So we thank you for helping us move forward in those improvements. 1304 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,800 As we look into next year, one of the things that we are currently working on, and hopefully 1305 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,240 you will see very shortly, is a contract to implement the comprehensive solid waste management 1306 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,240 strategy. 1307 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:30,080 What we want to try to do again is to identify programs and plans and possibly impediments 1308 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:38,600 to implementing a solid waste program that is beneficial to the entire community as well 1309 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,100 as cost effective and sustainable as we move forward. 1310 01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:44,720 So that contract should be coming forward. 1311 01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:50,240 We're working to replace our scale house software asset and routing software systems so we can 1312 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:55,640 improve accuracy and modify or modernize our operation. 1313 01:26:55,640 --> 01:27:00,640 We continue to work in education outreach, trying to recycle right and to reduce contamination 1314 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,880 in our recycling collections. 1315 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,360 So as a result, we've got a tremendous amount of effort ahead of us. 1316 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:12,120 Again, at the end of the day, we are trying to provide exceptional value to our community 1317 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,200 with the programs that we provide. 1318 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,920 A couple of service level changes I would like to identify. 1319 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:24,840 During COVID, unlike a lot of or several cities in the state of Texas as well as across the 1320 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:31,120 nation, we were able to continue providing the same level of service with no downsizing. 1321 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:36,080 So again, I would like to commend all the drivers, our supervisors, our managers working 1322 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:41,480 diligently and safely throughout these past few months to be able to remain on the road, 1323 01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:45,720 be able to service our citizens, and again, not impact the level of service that we have 1324 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,720 been providing. 1325 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:55,480 In this post-COVID and operational period, a couple things have changed though. 1326 01:27:55,480 --> 01:28:00,400 While we continue to collect home chemical collections on a curbside basis, we have temporarily 1327 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:07,220 closed our in-person drop off as well as a reuse store to minimize public exposure. 1328 01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:09,060 We are not accepting cash at our scale house. 1329 01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:11,280 We are credit and debit card only. 1330 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,320 We're increasing training protocols. 1331 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,760 We're putting in place worker safety issues. 1332 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:23,080 As a result, we are providing and one additional outreach aspect, our scale house staff is 1333 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,920 providing assistance to beneficial reuse in the downer customer sales. 1334 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,960 We're able to, I don't want to say double dip, but again, maximize the use of the effort 1335 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,360 that we currently have in our solid waste scale house. 1336 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:41,640 From an operational standpoint, we continue to identify customer growth as we move forward. 1337 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:48,460 Dave Denton is sort of at the top of the DFW area. 1338 01:28:48,460 --> 01:28:51,840 Growth is coming our way, and we can see that from a residential standpoint. 1339 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,880 In 2021, we estimate that by the end of that year, we're going to be servicing slightly 1340 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:01,760 over 35,500 residential customers. 1341 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:06,760 Our yard waste program remains level, so everything that we're picking up off the curb and delivering 1342 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,720 to the landfill across the scales, it's remaining consistent. 1343 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,640 So that's a good number. 1344 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:18,880 One of the big increases that we're going to see and one of our supplemental packages, 1345 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,360 our commercial containers haul, it continues to improve. 1346 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:28,160 So our business community continues to grow and remain vibrant throughout this operational 1347 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,200 season. 1348 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:33,720 With our valet trash recycling fully implemented, we have 131 customers in the downtown and 1349 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,360 forestry areas. 1350 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,640 And if you've been in these areas after the implementation of our valet service, you'll 1351 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:47,360 notice that in addition to providing additional parking resources in these areas, the appearance 1352 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,600 has improved. 1353 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,720 We've seen a significant increase in the quality of recyclables that we are collecting from 1354 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:57,600 this area, as well as created a communication conduit with the business owners and the community 1355 01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:58,980 in this area. 1356 01:29:58,980 --> 01:30:02,040 So it's beneficial on many tiers. 1357 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:09,360 Significantly, also, our wholesale volumes as a result of our contracts with our private 1358 01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:15,520 providers has jumped in '19 and then in '20, but you'll notice that in '22, '23, those 1359 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:19,760 contracts end and there's anticipated to be a significant drop-off. 1360 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:25,760 In this next year, 2021, we anticipate a little over 200,000 tons coming into the landfill 1361 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,600 from third-party sources. 1362 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:33,400 Across the scales, we see a significant increase of retail volumes also. 1363 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:40,840 These are the residents as well as the business community that are paying gate rates to bring 1364 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,080 material into the landfill. 1365 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:48,300 With the closure of DFW landfill in Lewisville, as well as the significant growth that we're 1366 01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:53,280 seeing in the North Texas area, this is not unexpected, but again, the growth is significant. 1367 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,680 One of the things I would like to point out here is this compaction density. 1368 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:08,000 Currently, we're almost, in FY19-20, we averaged about 1,156 pounds per cubic yard. 1369 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:13,840 With changes in equipment and operational standards, we're hoping to increase that to a little 1370 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,760 over 1,200 pound per cubic yard. 1371 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,240 What this means is we're putting a lot more trash in a lot smaller area. 1372 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:27,640 As a result, the increases that we've made from last year into this year actually compensate 1373 01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,560 for the increased wholesale volumes that we've been getting in, so we're really net zero 1374 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:36,640 in the amount of space that we anticipated using in this past year, even though we took 1375 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,200 more tonnage into the facility. 1376 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:48,360 From a personal standpoint, we started the year with 126 FTEs. 1377 01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:58,640 Over the year, we had 14 vacant due to the VSP program, as well as resignations and the 1378 01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,080 positions that we had been keeping open through salary savings. 1379 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,920 We've been approved and refilled 11 of those. 1380 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:10,120 Currently, we're going to give back three positions, a solid waste analyst, the supervisor 1381 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:14,400 of our household hazardous waste, our home chemical collection facility, as well as the 1382 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,680 assistant collections manager in solid waste. 1383 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:23,800 In 2021, we'll be proposing 123 FTEs in solid waste. 1384 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,040 Organization, again, we're fairly flat. 1385 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,600 We have deputy director that manages the operations section. 1386 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,160 We have a site operations manager, which manages our maintenance, as well as runs our home 1387 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:36,960 chemical collection facility. 1388 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,920 From an administrative standpoint, we have a manager that handles resource management, 1389 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,480 as well as oversees our solid waste station. 1390 01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:49,120 And then we have an analysis section that works with business development, as well as 1391 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:54,480 applications and software upgrades to the system. 1392 01:32:54,480 --> 01:33:04,680 From a supplemental standpoint, we're looking at an addition of about $731,000 in this next 1393 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:05,760 year. 1394 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,480 With the growth, as I stated previously, of our commercial collection, we're in need of 1395 01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:11,440 an additional roll-off truck. 1396 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:17,120 This service is open tops on construction sites, as well as compactors around businesses 1397 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:18,760 and educational facilities. 1398 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:24,520 So currently, we're short and relying on rental vehicles. 1399 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,160 So the addition of this roll-off truck will ease some pressure there. 1400 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,200 In addition, with the expansion of our yard waste program, as well as the growth in our 1401 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:41,240 residential community, we find ourselves in need of additions in our cart purchase funds. 1402 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:48,600 With that, I would like to go ahead and open up for any questions that you might have regarding 1403 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,200 the program or the presentation. 1404 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,200 Questions? 1405 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,200 Ed, go ahead. 1406 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:53,200 You're on mute. 1407 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:54,200 Thank you. 1408 01:33:54,200 --> 01:34:10,000 This sort of falls in with your first future goal, which is the solid waste comprehensive 1409 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,940 management strategy. 1410 01:34:12,940 --> 01:34:22,580 The latest 2018 greenhouse gas inventory that the city has published indicates that waste 1411 01:34:22,580 --> 01:34:30,680 emissions account for 44% of emissions from municipal operations. 1412 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:38,440 And it's an increase, actually, of 31% over 2017. 1413 01:34:38,440 --> 01:34:44,780 And one can only assume that with the growth that is forecast and expansion that is forecast 1414 01:34:44,780 --> 01:34:51,080 for the landfill, that this number is going to increase. 1415 01:34:51,080 --> 01:35:03,640 So I know that much of the methane emissions from the landfill is from food waste. 1416 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:10,400 And so I'm basically saying that I hope that this solid waste comprehensive management 1417 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:22,320 strategy will include a food waste diversion plan, as well as, perhaps, residential curbside 1418 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:27,240 composting. 1419 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,620 Food waste diversion, I think, is very, very important with this. 1420 01:35:30,620 --> 01:35:42,880 And I would hope, as well, that the comprehensive management strategy is of a wide scope a large 1421 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:43,880 time frame. 1422 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:50,800 I know you're probably familiar with Austin's Resource Recovery Master Plan, which is an 1423 01:35:50,800 --> 01:36:02,800 amazing document, centralizes and compacts everything, all necessary aspects of the city 1424 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,720 in working on waste reduction. 1425 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:11,400 And the scope of their plan is 30 years, and some of it is even further. 1426 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:18,400 So I hope that given the great development, both residential and commercial, that is coming 1427 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:28,080 to Denton, that the plan to be has a scope that reflects the development that is coming 1428 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,560 to our community. 1429 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:30,560 Thanks. 1430 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:31,560 Thank you. 1431 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:32,560 Okay. 1432 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:33,560 Any other questions? 1433 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,000 We really need to keep moving. 1434 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,840 All right, Nick, you're up. 1435 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:48,680 Thank you. 1436 01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,680 Thank you, Brian. 1437 01:36:52,680 --> 01:37:02,400 All right, so financial assumptions for the wastewater fund, similar to water and wastewater, 1438 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,800 we do have a 2% growth forecast in the out years. 1439 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:11,560 We are currently anticipating the wholesale agreements ending in fiscal year '22 and '23. 1440 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,960 I'll walk you through that in a financial performance here shortly. 1441 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:19,320 Expenses the same thing as the other utilities, a 2% growth forecast in the out years. 1442 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:23,640 We do have cell construction being moved from fiscal year '22 to '21, seeing some of that 1443 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,640 growth coming into the facility. 1444 01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:30,320 And then rates, a 5% rate decrease for residential customers is currently what we're proposing, 1445 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,320 which is a dollar. 1446 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,560 And I showed that to you in the water presentation, I'll review it with you again shortly. 1447 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:39,840 We are looking to make minimum updates to contracted rates, for example, the wholesale 1448 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:46,960 agreements, and then minimum updates to valley rate, commercial rate, and gate disposal rate. 1449 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:52,300 It's the five-year forecast for the solid waste fund. 1450 01:37:52,300 --> 01:37:56,240 We will be bringing back a 10-year forecast when we come back to the Public Utility Board 1451 01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,200 with a detailed discussion later in August. 1452 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,720 But in this financial picture, what you can see, so in the adopted 2020 column, you have 1453 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,680 planned use of reserves of $3 million. 1454 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:11,060 We are forecasting to finish the year a little bit better, or quite a bit better, about $1.4 1455 01:38:11,060 --> 01:38:12,060 million positive. 1456 01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:13,760 So actually not using reserves. 1457 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,480 So that continued growth that Brian was talking about coming into the facility has really 1458 01:38:17,480 --> 01:38:19,620 helped out the solid waste fund. 1459 01:38:19,620 --> 01:38:23,880 We are currently showing $280,000 for a COVID revenue impact number. 1460 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,320 We will refine this number when we come back to you in December, once we get some hard 1461 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,280 data from customer service regarding that impact. 1462 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,640 The proposed budget is in this dotted line here. 1463 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:38,160 In the 2021 budget, we do have planned use of reserves of $4.3 million. 1464 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:44,220 Moving down the page, you can see expenses of $44.1 for an ending fund balance of $8.3. 1465 01:38:44,220 --> 01:38:50,000 In this fund, there is a minimum and a maximum goal that we have for our fund balance, 51 1466 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:55,200 days being the minimum of 14% and 65 days or 18% being the maximum. 1467 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,520 So you can see we're well within that range and actually above the maximum. 1468 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:06,120 Moving out to the 5-year, you can see we do just below it in the 5th year in 2025 to $5.6 1469 01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,080 million with the minimum being $5.673. 1470 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,480 There's a couple of reasons for this. 1471 01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:17,080 The main reason is you can see from '22 to '23, those wholesale agreements do go away. 1472 01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:21,560 So you see rate revenue drop from $33.5 to $34.5. 1473 01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,720 This is that $5 million associated with those agreements. 1474 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,400 If those are approved by PV and council or renewed, this will change the forecast. 1475 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,360 But currently we've taken the conservative approach and taken those out of the 5-year 1476 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:33,360 picture. 1477 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:40,800 The 5-year CIP, one thing I will say for the solid waste fund, they have transitioned over 1478 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,960 the last few years from debt funding, a lot of assets to revenue funding. 1479 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:49,480 You can actually see we have a minimum amount of debt planned for this fund, $3 million. 1480 01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:53,760 This is for a fleet annex building at the solid waste facility. 1481 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:59,960 We have about $6.25 million in revenue funding and then $3.4 million in vehicle replacement. 1482 01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:02,320 Did I hear somebody, Susan or? 1483 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:03,320 >> I'm sorry? 1484 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:04,320 >> Okay. 1485 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,600 I thought I heard someone ask the question. 1486 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,660 I was just -- didn't know if someone asked something or not. 1487 01:40:09,660 --> 01:40:15,840 For the 5-year total for the CIP plan, you can see we have $41.5 million planned to kind 1488 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,960 of separate it out and give you a perspective of how much of that is a bond and how much 1489 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:19,960 of that is cash. 1490 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:25,520 We have $14.3 million in bond funding over a 5-year period with $27.1 million in revenue 1491 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:26,520 funding. 1492 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,080 So this fund is definitely healthy. 1493 01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,320 Proposed rate changes, we are looking to make a few more updates in the solid waste rate 1494 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:39,160 ordinance this fiscal year prior to that detailed discussion in December. 1495 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,160 Valet shared services, so this is the downtown service for valet commercial services that 1496 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,000 was started last year. 1497 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:51,520 Under 2, the rate is currently 138.28, we are looking to decrease that rate to 74.16. 1498 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,760 This does align with the cost of service model that we are currently using that was updated 1499 01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,520 two years ago. 1500 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:01,440 Yard waste services, currently this service is not offered to commercial businesses, so 1501 01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:06,240 we are looking to put a rate in the ordinance for that of $75 per hour. 1502 01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,560 This is consistent with the residential rate for yard waste service. 1503 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,060 The standard cart rate is currently 21.51. 1504 01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:17,520 We are showing that dollar decrease that I discussed with you a couple slides ago, so 1505 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,520 you can see 20.51 would be the proposed rate for 20.21. 1506 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:28,800 The large cart, 26.26 is the current rate and then 25.04 would be with that decrease. 1507 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,200 Additional large cart, people can call in to order an additional large cart. 1508 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,360 We are looking to reduce this based on the cost of service model. 1509 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:39,320 So it goes from 17.38 to 16.57. 1510 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:46,280 We are looking to increase the gate rate from 46 to 48, and then the sludge, dewatered sludge 1511 01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,800 landfill disposal rate from 46 to 50. 1512 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,420 One other thing down here at the bottom, we do have a note, we are looking to adjust the 1513 01:41:53,420 --> 01:41:58,160 wholesale contracted rates by 2.3%, which is a CPI adjuster. 1514 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:02,560 This is identified in those contracts, and this does account for about 400,000 additional 1515 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,240 revenue per year. 1516 01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,960 This is the slide I've shown you several times before. 1517 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:14,800 You can see the proposed overall bill for an average residential customer would be 229.56, 1518 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:20,000 so actually decreasing their utility bill by $2.08. 1519 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,640 It's the dates, as we said before, this August 10th date will more likely change based on 1520 01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,520 the discussion with the PUV today, push that back later in August. 1521 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,200 Then September 15th, the City Council will adopt the budget, the tax rate, and capital 1522 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:32,200 improvement plan. 1523 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,800 And then we'll circle back with the PUV and City Council in November and December with 1524 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,000 a detailed budget, rate, and cost of service discussion. 1525 01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:44,240 And with that, that concludes the presentation, and I will pull this down for questions. 1526 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:45,240 Yes. 1527 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,240 Yes, sir. 1528 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:47,240 Yes. 1529 01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:48,240 Slide 52. 1530 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,680 Nick, can you put slide 52 back up? 1531 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:52,680 Sure. 1532 01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,440 Hang on just a second. 1533 01:42:56,440 --> 01:42:57,440 52. 1534 01:42:57,440 --> 01:42:58,440 Yes, sir. 1535 01:42:58,440 --> 01:42:59,440 Yeah. 1536 01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:00,920 Yeah, that one. 1537 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:09,760 The bottom two rows, fiscal year 21-22, revenue is about half of what it is prior year. 1538 01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,320 What's the reason for that, again? 1539 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:16,680 Let me go back to the – hang on just a second to the fine-year forecast here. 1540 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,400 This may help us answer your question. 1541 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:24,760 We do have some revenue funding in here, capital investment for that cell development. 1542 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,400 So if you remember, I made that comment earlier about the cell construction moving from 22 1543 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:29,400 to 21. 1544 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:30,400 Yes. 1545 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,720 So the majority of this money, to answer your question, is for the next cell development 1546 01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:34,720 cost. 1547 01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,640 We are looking to pay cash for the development of that cell. 1548 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,600 So that's about $5 million. 1549 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,080 Does that answer your question? 1550 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:46,280 So the reason it's not $9 million is because you're going to use half of it roughly to 1551 01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:47,280 pay for new construction. 1552 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:48,280 Is that true? 1553 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:49,280 That's correct. 1554 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:50,280 Yeah. 1555 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,640 In 2021, we're going to use the majority of that money to pay for cash funding of the 1556 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:54,640 next cell development. 1557 01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:58,480 And then, of course, in the five-year picture, we don't have a next cell plugged in. 1558 01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:03,880 So the decrease in the 6.2 that you see here to the 1.9 is because we're building that 1559 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,400 cell in 2021. 1560 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,360 Okay. 1561 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:21,200 I also know the total working reserve is – we have above the maximum amount suggested. 1562 01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:26,600 And I wonder if, when you contemplate issuing bonds, you ever have the discussion where 1563 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:32,760 you look at the total reserve and these numbers and evaluate, do you really need to issue 1564 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:36,560 another bond for these things? 1565 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:37,840 That's a great question. 1566 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,040 So we did, prior to coming to the PUB, when we met with management staff in the city, 1567 01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:46,560 we did have $1.2 million plugged in this five-year bond program. 1568 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,320 Looking at the five-year forecast and the health of this fund, we did make the determination 1569 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,520 to cash fund that asset. 1570 01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:58,360 With this being a building of $3 million, this fund could afford to cash fund in 2021. 1571 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:02,680 Staff just felt the most appropriate way to pay for this asset was bond funding it, since 1572 01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:07,520 it is a building, and it will have longer than a 20-year life. 1573 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:12,080 So yes, to answer your question, we do look at the overall fund balance when considering 1574 01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,480 what the revenue fund and what the debt fund. 1575 01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:18,480 And I will say, you know, a big focus from the Solid Waste Fund, as you can see, in 2019, 1576 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:20,680 we had a debt service number of 8.9 million. 1577 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:25,120 You know, this fund from the financial department and the Solid Waste Department has done a 1578 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:29,560 great job of mitigating that debt issuance and cash funding more and more assets. 1579 01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:34,120 And you can see out here, the debt service payment is cut in half, the 3.4 to 4.2 million. 1580 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,240 Well, that's a good thing. 1581 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,240 It's a great thing. 1582 01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:41,240 And this is something to be proud of for the entire city. 1583 01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,680 You really have made a lot of progress from the beginning. 1584 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:45,680 Absolutely. 1585 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:51,000 Other questions? 1586 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:56,040 Well, we did it. 1587 01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:57,880 We did it. 1588 01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,960 Thank you again for coming in today for the special called meeting. 1589 01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,080 We really appreciate it. 1590 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,240 So Susan and PB members, one of the items that I will add to the Business Action Matrix 1591 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:12,080 will be a feature work session on the budget process. 1592 01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:16,720 What we'd like to do is then come back to you along with the finance department and 1593 01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,680 kind of walk you through what the process had been and kind of where we've been and 1594 01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:25,040 then kind of turn that into just a work session discussion with you to give us some direction 1595 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,880 on what would you like that process to be going forward. 1596 01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:29,880 Okay. 1597 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:30,880 Great. 1598 01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:34,240 With that, do we have a motion to adjourn? 1599 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,240 I move we adjourn. 1600 01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:37,240 All right. 1601 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:38,240 We're adjourned. 1602 01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:39,240 Thank you. 1603 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,240 Thank you.