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 Good afternoon, everyone.

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 It is 12 31 and I would like to begin our first virtual parks and recreation board meeting.

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 We have a quorum present and one excused absence.

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 And if I would, do we have any presentations from the public?

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 No, we do not.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you, Rachel.

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 Well, first, let me just say hello to everyone.

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 It's really good to see everybody.

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 It's been a while and I have missed you all.

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 Okay.

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 I know I'm on protocol, but all right.

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 First item is consider approval of the minutes of March 2nd, 2020.

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 Any questions, concerns, comments?

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 I'll move to accept.

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 Motion to accept by Dave Shupp.

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 Second was, who said it first, James or George?

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 I think I did, I'm not sure.

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 Second by James.

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 Okay.

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 The minutes for March 2nd have been approved.

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 Item B, receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding an update

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 on the City of Denton Parks and Recreation Board COVID-19 response.

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 Thank you, Frances, Gary Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation.

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 Obviously, Drew, Laura, Heather and Eddie are on here as well and we don't have a presentation,

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 but just wanted to verbally kind of walk you through our life in the department over the

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 last three or four months with COVID.

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 On or about March 13th is when things really started changing for us.

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 We've tried to keep you up to speed every week with the emails that Eddie sends out

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 and what's going on, but there's been a lot of things going on behind the scenes.

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 Obviously, we closed all of our facilities and playgrounds, ball fields.

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 We shut just about our entire leisure services department down.

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 It's really been the tale of dual personalities between leisure services and parks.

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 The leisure services standpoint, everybody was basically working from home and we had

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 to reinvent our business.

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 So staff was very busy transitioning from in-person activities to virtual activities

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 to eventually lead to a virtual recreation center where we're doing video training online.

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 We're doing bag in the box type of programming, leadership guided programs online.

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 We did a substantial amount of refunds for aquatics and rec centers.

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 That has taken a lot of time.

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 So staff's been very flexible in going through this process.

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 Actually nobody, none of us have dealt with this type of situation before.

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 So things were changing not necessarily every day, but more or less like every couple hours.

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 As well as I'm sure they did in your life and your business.

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 So it was frustrating, it was scary.

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 Everybody was unsure what was going to happen on top of the scare of what are we going to

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 do budget-wise.

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 We reduced by shutting down, we had to adjust our budget by about 2.6, 2.8 million dollars

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 roughly in lost revenue and then we had to make additional cuts.

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 In total we tried to achieve 1.9 million dollars in savings after that six months into the

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 budget to help with the anticipated loss in sales tax for the city.

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 Actually sales tax comes two months later, so we weren't sure how that was going to impact

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 the city long-term with things being shut down.

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 So we're trying to brace for impact and preserve our full-time staff as much as possible.

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 So we gave staff assignments, some of it was the virtual programming, our athletic team

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 went out and painted all of our restrooms, all our concession stands, all our foul poles

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 to help park maintenance.

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 So that was extremely challenging for our leisure services side and I really want to

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 thank them for being so flexible.

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 The other side of the house, park maintenance, this all happened at the busiest time of the

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 year.

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 We typically have contractors that mow the majority of our park system and then we do

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 some of the detail work on the fields and those type areas, but we were short one contractor

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 and we opened up bids, we hired a new contractor, the contractor was on for about a month and

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 then quit.

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 So during this time, we had to go out and mow the grass when we typically are not mowing.

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 In addition to spreading staff from park maintenance out to four or five different locations and

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 try to thin our staff to try to preserve everyone from being sick and reduce the opportunities

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 to get ill.

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 And then it was raining, so that made it worse and so the grass was growing and we're still

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 trying to keep up with it.

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 So we have not rehired that contractor that quit to date.

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 So we're still mowing.

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 We're partnering with the airport and we're helping mow the airport and then their maintenance

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 staff are coming out and helping us mow as well.

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 So we've been pretty fluid with constant adjustments throughout this entire timeframe.

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 Trying to figure out how we're going to manage staff potentially getting sick, coming up

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 with new protocols for every facility and how we were going to reopen and how we were

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 going to deal with if someone got sick and then whether we should open or not.

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 We had a lot of consternation in regards to how and when we would reopen.

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 There was no parks and recreation department that we were able to follow that did everything

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 the same.

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 We actually worked with another city and put together a spreadsheet and shared it amongst

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 all the departments in DFW in Texas so we could follow who had playgrounds open, who

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 had restrooms open, who had rec centers open and when they anticipated opening.

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 We were taking the position of being more conservative than most departments.

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 A couple cities in DFW opened their rec center the day the governor opened Texas that quickly.

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 We decided that some of our facilities may not open until calendar year 2021 and they're

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 really unsure at this point in time.

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 So we developed a reopening plan that had North Lakes opening first and we opened up

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 on June 22nd to members only so it's just drop in fitness and then we also opened the

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 driving range in the tennis courts.

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 I think that was June 5th.

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 So those are the facilities that we have open right now.

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 We do serve lunches out of Dina and MLK.

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 That was a partnership with our lunch provider in DISD.

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 Actually we were closed so we had to revamp that entire program in partnership with DISD

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 and they were coming off the process with schools being shut down or serving over 80,000

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 meals a week.

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 So that was a lot of planning and coordination there.

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 Obviously we're not serving that many for the summertime.

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 So we do have that ramped up and it takes place every morning and then on Saturday we

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 actually opened up a cooling station with temperatures being over 100 degrees at the

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 Civic Center.

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 We do have voting taking place tomorrow so they're getting set up today, Tuesday's voting

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 and Wednesday's shutdown or teardown for the voting.

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 So we had to move the cooling station to MLK for Monday and Tuesday.

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 So it's been a constant flux and the need to be flexible for everybody.

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 Most of our staff have been working from home until we started reopening.

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 Our leisure services staff have been coming back and now they're operating the rec center,

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 North Lakes, the breakfast lunches that we serve.

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 We also operated the CCP for most of the summer.

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 We closed it on July 2nd as a hygiene station since MKOC and some of the other nonprofits

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 were closed because they didn't have volunteers.

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 We ramped that up and provide showers and sanitation for people to come in.

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 We also had a laundry trailer there for a number of weeks providing that service.

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 And then Carly, who's our volunteer coordinator, coordinated volunteer efforts across the entire

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 city to help support our daily bread every day, preparing meals from eight to one.

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 And then we also delivered meals at the hotels that the city is helping with some of the

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 homeless, the people experiencing homelessness to stay.

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 And we had staff go over there and deliver meals.

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 We helped with a childcare area at a local church.

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 And then we also did some interpretation for another nonprofit.

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 So staff, when they were at home working, we did offer that for them.

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 So they came in and helped out, and that was not just Parks and Recreation, but most of

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 the departments across the entire city.

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 So that's another effort that we're doing is we really transitioned from Parks and Recreation

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 to social services over the course of the past few months.

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 So that was one adjustment.

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 But while we did that, we were still developing programming virtually and maintaining our

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 parks.

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 There was one report that actually Brooke had shared that park usage in Denton County

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 was up 87%, and we did have a lot of people using our parks.

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 We still had a lot of people complain about things and call if there were some issues

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 too.

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 So we were trying to keep up with that as much as possible.

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 When COVID hit, city management immediately froze all positions that were vacant.

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 So we stopped all hiring.

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 And then we stopped all hiring of our seasonal staff.

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 So that was challenging.

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 And then as part of the anticipation of budget challenges, the city offered a voluntary separation

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 program where people could leave the city and get paid out X number of months voluntarily.

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 So we had, I think 10 people take that from our department.

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 So for example, Drew's department alone between VSP, part-time and vacant positions, he was

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 short 16 people out of 52, I think is what Drew's number is.

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 And that's on top of not having my contractor in dealing with COVID and rain and mowing.

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 So it's been a crazy few months.

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 And again, I can't say it as much as I could say it all day is we've had to be very flexible.

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 So let's see, we had to communicate with staff, obviously staff's concerned, worried.

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 So we had numerous Zoom meetings with staff across the organization trying to update them

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 on what's going on.

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 A lot of cities were furloughing employees.

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 We did not furlough our full or part-time employees.

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 We did not rehire a lot of seasonal positions, obviously, because we weren't open.

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 So that was a challenge.

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 And when we were deciding what we should reopen, it was like a 50/50 split.

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 50% of the community wanted us to reopen and 50% didn't want us to reopen.

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 So it was really no matter what decision we made, it was going to be a challenge for the

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 community.

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 We took a lot of lumps throughout that process of opening tennis courts, playgrounds.

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 But at the end of the day, I think the decisions we made as an organization were probably right

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 on because a lot of departments across DFW are starting to backtrack where they've closed

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 their pools, they're closing rec centers because of cases that are occurring.

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 So I really think we did the right thing.

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 And we had some of the challenges up front.

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 We were conservative, and I think we took the right path.

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 We can always second-guess ourselves on a lot of our decisions, but I think we did the

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 right thing.

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 Obviously the concern for not just the health and wellness of our staff, but our mental

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 health of our staff, people working from home every day, not seeing their customers, not

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 socializing with each other was a concern.

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 So we've done a lot of Zoom meetings across the organization.

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 Our senior center staff, we have one person that's been calling, a couple people, have

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 been calling our senior members and talking to them because they're shuttered and they've

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 been there since March, where they can't see, and Francis, we talked a little bit about

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 it as well, where they can't get out and see their own families.

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 So we've been making phone calls to our senior members and trying to keep them active and

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 come up with bingo and those types of activities to give them an opportunity to socialize.

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 So that's a real quick summary of four months of work.

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 Drew and Laura, Heather, we had to rebuild our entire budget.

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 Heather did a lot of work in the course of a few days where we had to dissect every one

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 of our HPUs, every one of our specific budgets and come up with $1.9 million.

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 Obviously that's a net.

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 We had to cut, we lost $2.8 million in revenue.

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 So you add it to that, it's much more complicated in getting to that 1.9 net in savings.

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 So it was an experience.

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 We went through some reorganization scenarios three or four times from scratch and taking

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 it differently.

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 We looked at cuts from 10% to 25 to 50% across the department, depending on how bad it was

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 going to get.

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 Ultimately, we went to the 10% reduction, which was the $1.9 million.

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 It was quite the experience.

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 I hope none of us have to do it again.

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 I hope eventually we get out of this soon, but we just don't know.

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 Many cases are starting to rise again, and we're starting to look at maybe we push our

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 timelines back.

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 But from day one, we said we're going to open up North Lakes first, MLK would be the second

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 rec center sometime in September, and then we thought we would open up the civic center

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 in October, and then Denia and the senior center in December, January.

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 That's still kind of penciled in.

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 I think the civic center is probably going to be pushed back tentatively, but the senior

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 centers being the last ones that we open just because of the vulnerable population, it just

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 doesn't make sense.

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 Then from an operational standpoint, you know, North Lakes is open, but we're not running

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 at pre-COVID numbers, so it may not make sense from a capacity standpoint and from a budget

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 standpoint to open up all the rec centers.

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 So Denia may be the last rec center to open, and it may not open until after January, depending

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 on how things go.

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 We just don't know.

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 So we penciled in those dates just so we could plan and budget for it and have at least a

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 starting point or a foundation to work from, realizing that we're going to have to take

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 each day, day by day.

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 So that's been a challenge, but if Drew or Laura, Heather want to chime in with anything

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 I may have missed, that would be great.

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 I can't hear you, Laura.

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 Laura, I think you're on mute.

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 Put the headset on.

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 It's probably plugged in.

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 Okay.

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 Can you hear me now?

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 Yes?

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 Yeah.

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 Okay.

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 Just wanted to give you kind of a little glimpse into where we are today in terms of our operations

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 on the leisure service side.

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 As Gary mentioned, North Lakes is open.

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 We've got modified hours.

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 It's being run right now by our full-time staff, full-time and part-time staff.

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 We have a very detailed reopening plan and practices and operations on a daily basis

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 for that facility.

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 It is only open for members and pass holders right now.

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 We're seeing about 150 people coming in a day on average throughout the day.

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 So we've got occupant loads for each room.

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 It's spaced out.

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 We've got a disinfecting protocol that the staff is working through and documenting every

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 day.

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 We did open up the driving range and we have opened back up our golf and tennis instruction

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 that's done by our contractors.

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 We did have to pause the tennis instruction for two weeks, but we're scheduled right now

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 to resume tennis instruction on the 20th as well as trying to open up a little bit on

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 some fitness instruction and also some athletic contracted services.

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 But again, those are really things that we're looking at on a day-by-day basis.

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 We've got them planned.

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 We've got a process in place, but those decisions sometimes change within a matter of 24 hours

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 or so.

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 So that's where we're at today.

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 This is David Shuck.

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 I've got a question.

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 It sounds like it's available for members only.

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 Is that existing or are we also selling new memberships and are there new memberships

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 being sold as part of this?

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 Yes, both existing members and new memberships are still available.

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 Any additional questions, concerns?

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 Anything else, Gary?

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 No, that's it.

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 I mean, other than, you know, we'll try to continue to provide you your updates on Monday.

00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:59.400
 If you have a question, need some clarification, always feel free to chime in with us and ask

00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:00.400
 us.

00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:05.520
 We'll provide real basic information for you, try to make it short and sweet.

00:20:05.520 --> 00:20:12.600
 But you know, as the case is, hopefully, start to plateau and close and shut down, you know,

00:20:12.600 --> 00:20:17.320
 I guess go more the positive direction as opposed to the direction ahead right now.

00:20:17.320 --> 00:20:22.760
 We hope that we can reopen, but again, we'll be continuously flexible in reevaluating our

00:20:22.760 --> 00:20:24.600
 next steps.

00:20:24.600 --> 00:20:29.080
 As of right now, we were set to open up some programs starting next week, so that's a discussion

00:20:29.080 --> 00:20:35.280
 that we need to have today with CMO in regards to what they feel the city's direction is.

00:20:35.280 --> 00:20:38.120
 I guess it was July 3rd.

00:20:38.120 --> 00:20:41.760
 We had a meeting with all the city management and decided that we were going to send people

00:20:41.760 --> 00:20:44.320
 back home for two weeks and see how things went.

00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:46.920
 So this is this is the second week.

00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:50.480
 So I assume we'll probably have some more discussions this week to figure out how we're

00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:56.340
 going to handle next steps, but trying to keep our staff safe as possible and spread

00:20:56.340 --> 00:21:00.320
 everybody out and work for people from home as much as we can.

00:21:00.320 --> 00:21:01.760
 It's been a learning experience.

00:21:01.760 --> 00:21:07.120
 I think it's been pretty productive for staff and it's it turns out to be a benefit that

00:21:07.120 --> 00:21:09.040
 we can offer.

00:21:09.040 --> 00:21:13.440
 So that's something that we'll continue to look at as we move forward.

00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:16.600
 But I appreciate everybody's patience.

00:21:16.600 --> 00:21:23.400
 You know, we haven't met for so long is a little awkward and but it's been it's been

00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:24.400
 a challenge.

00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.960
 Do you have a question?

00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:32.380
 I was just curious what you expect moving forward in the fall as families.

00:21:32.380 --> 00:21:39.240
 I'm sure you'll have some who are wanting to work from home and keeping their kids home.

00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:44.580
 What is kind of the city's policy or what do you guys have in place so that people can

00:21:44.580 --> 00:21:49.080
 still maintain a job and keep their children and family safe.

00:21:49.080 --> 00:21:52.540
 So that's been that's been a lot of discussion there.

00:21:52.540 --> 00:21:57.440
 The positions that have the ability to work from home, as long as they can do that and

00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.120
 be effective and efficient with their work life.

00:22:02.120 --> 00:22:04.840
 We are providing that that support.

00:22:04.840 --> 00:22:07.400
 Obviously there's some positions that that can't work from home.

00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:12.400
 We can't cut grass from home, but you can work individually.

00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:16.200
 We did spread everybody out into individual vehicles as much as possible.

00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:21.620
 So you may see some park maintenance guys driving around and 15 passenger vans.

00:22:21.620 --> 00:22:24.040
 So we are trying to do that.

00:22:24.040 --> 00:22:30.640
 But we still have to run a city, whether it's police and fire, solid waste or water or parks.

00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:35.960
 We have positions that can't work from home with, you know, with school being out.

00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:39.780
 Obviously that's a challenge for people because a lot of childcare were shut down.

00:22:39.780 --> 00:22:42.040
 So we're trying to be as flexible as we can.

00:22:42.040 --> 00:22:48.960
 I mean, we're we're willing to shift hours to weekends and evenings if we have to try

00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:50.420
 to accommodate some staff.

00:22:50.420 --> 00:22:57.840
 So we are trying to be as flexible as we can still operate the city as best we can as efficiently

00:22:57.840 --> 00:22:58.840
 as possible.

00:22:58.840 --> 00:22:59.840
 Thank you.

00:22:59.840 --> 00:23:01.240
 That was like the best answer possible.

00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:02.240
 Thank you.

00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.440
 And then you have a question.

00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:05.440
 Yes.

00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:06.440
 Hi, everyone.

00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:08.640
 First of all, thanks for the update.

00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:12.240
 That was really a lot of information that I've been wondering about.

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.960
 I have one question, though, is there I know you said you're not going to open Civic Center

00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:23.320
 until probably like October, but with the schools opening up, I know a lot of people

00:23:23.320 --> 00:23:29.760
 need that after school care is the are the parks planning on anything for that?

00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:31.680
 So a great question.

00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:37.160
 That was another area of consternation that we had in regards to summer camps, because

00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:42.000
 we know how important they are for kids for social aspect, but also for childcare for

00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.480
 parents and with school with school being out.

00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:57.200
 We took the road of if if one kid gets sick, and we have to shut it down for two weeks.

00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:02.240
 Now we have taken families that were dependent and counting on that and putting them into

00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:08.600
 a situation with potentially, you know, an hour's notice that they have to come get their

00:24:08.600 --> 00:24:14.300
 kid and they're not going to have that service for the next two weeks.

00:24:14.300 --> 00:24:19.320
 So we decided that we were going to do it at all.

00:24:19.320 --> 00:24:24.880
 And then so we're kind of still in the same place for after school.

00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:30.360
 Obviously the ISD announced that they're going to delay school by a couple more weeks.

00:24:30.360 --> 00:24:34.220
 And then there's still an option for stay at home learning.

00:24:34.220 --> 00:24:39.360
 So it'll be interesting to see how much of the the school students are actually staying

00:24:39.360 --> 00:24:40.360
 at home.

00:24:40.360 --> 00:24:45.360
 I think I saw somewhere at Fort Worth, 50% of the people are students were working at

00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:47.880
 home or planning to be at home this fall.

00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:53.920
 I'm not sure if that's accurate, but that it's another challenge that we have to face

00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:59.560
 and figure out how to deal with school is right around the corner.

00:24:59.560 --> 00:25:03.560
 But in COVID time, it's a long way away.

00:25:03.560 --> 00:25:06.700
 So we haven't made any decisions yet.

00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:11.420
 We're trying to figure out we were anticipating opening an auditorium around mid August to

00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:16.080
 accommodate the swim team and just open it for them.

00:25:16.080 --> 00:25:20.080
 And the ISD hasn't been able to make a decision on when they're coming back to the swim team

00:25:20.080 --> 00:25:21.080
 yet.

00:25:21.080 --> 00:25:24.080
 So and that's just a few weeks away.

00:25:24.080 --> 00:25:30.080
 So it is something that we're struggling with and how we're going to handle it.

00:25:30.080 --> 00:25:34.920
 We have been without all of our seasonal staff, too.

00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:39.880
 So there's there's some operational challenges that we have to consider on how quickly we

00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:45.040
 can get staff back, get them hired and keep them safe at the same time.

00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:50.780
 So it's it's really pick, you know, pick a direction and do your best.

00:25:50.780 --> 00:25:56.520
 As of right now, we're anticipating that we probably aren't going to be doing after school,

00:25:56.520 --> 00:26:03.400
 but we haven't made a final decision on that yet.

00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.280
 Any questions?

00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:15.960
 Hi, it's you know, and I have a quick one over at I think on 288 at one of the city

00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:16.960
 facilities.

00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.160
 There are this new digital thermometer.

00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.200
 This is the first time I've seen those.

00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:31.760
 Will those digital thermometers also be extended to the parks and rec centers so people can

00:26:31.760 --> 00:26:39.680
 take their temp?

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:44.600
 Right now, we're not requiring anyone to take their temperature, you know, to be allowed

00:26:44.600 --> 00:26:46.640
 entrance into a facility.

00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:54.880
 We do have a lot of signage that is specifically at North Lake since that's our operating facility

00:26:54.880 --> 00:27:00.760
 right now, asking people to stop before they come in, you know, kind of ask themselves

00:27:00.760 --> 00:27:07.360
 these questions, whether or not they've been ill recently, if they have the symptoms that

00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:14.960
 are being, you know, updated as COVID symptoms, and essentially being asked not to enter,

00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.960
 if they have any of those symptoms, if they have a fever, if they've been sick or around

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:26.840
 somebody that's been sick recently, but they're not required to actually take their temperature

00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:31.560
 prior to being admitted into the facility at this time.

00:27:31.560 --> 00:27:37.360
 We are following all of the other recommendations and recently did implement the requirement

00:27:37.360 --> 00:27:39.480
 for wearing a mask.

00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:45.200
 So when you enter North Lakes rec center, you do have to have a mask on once you enter

00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:52.080
 into the fitness areas and begin to actually actively work out, you can remove it.

00:27:52.080 --> 00:27:59.940
 When you are done, you have to put it back on to walk through the facility again to exit.

00:27:59.940 --> 00:28:02.440
 And there are those masks are also available to the public.

00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:07.440
 So if somebody forgets their mask, as they come in, we do have some available for individuals

00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.920
 to use when they're coming in and out of our rec center.

00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:18.640
 I'd just like to throw in, you know, I work for a commercial gym in city of Denton, it's

00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:25.600
 the exact same protocol that we're following.

00:28:25.600 --> 00:28:29.320
 We had a lot of debate internally, whether we were going to require masks, if we could

00:28:29.320 --> 00:28:34.720
 do that, if we could require them during specific programs, since you're kind of opting into

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:35.720
 that.

00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:41.320
 And there was a lot of discussion back and forth, including temperature, whether we can

00:28:41.320 --> 00:28:46.200
 do that, whether we put staff in an awkward position with people that refuse to do that.

00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.720
 And we didn't want to have confrontations either.

00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.800
 So there was a lot of discussion about about those steps.

00:28:53.800 --> 00:29:04.120
 Okay, if there are no additional questions, thank you, Gary and Laura, and staff for the

00:29:04.120 --> 00:29:05.120
 update.

00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:13.600
 We're going to move to the next item, item C, receive a report, hold a discussion and

00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:20.320
 give staff direction regarding the five year capital improvement project plan.

00:29:20.320 --> 00:29:23.320
 So I'll bring up the spreadsheet.

00:29:23.320 --> 00:29:27.360
 But since at the beginning of the meeting, we talked about having conversation where

00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:29.600
 everybody can see each other.

00:29:29.600 --> 00:29:33.800
 So if you do happen to have the attachments, I know we have some members maybe sitting

00:29:33.800 --> 00:29:36.140
 in their car that may not be able to do that.

00:29:36.140 --> 00:29:37.140
 And that's fine.

00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:40.680
 I'll try to keep it up as much as possible and go back and forth.

00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.000
 But if you could bring up that spreadsheet, I can walk you through a little bit of it.

00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.320
 And then we can have some discussion.

00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:56.480
 So give me a second, let me pull that up.

00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:06.040
 Okay, that might be a little small, let me make this a little bit bigger.

00:30:06.040 --> 00:30:08.240
 I'm just gonna kind of scroll up here.

00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:13.240
 Can you guys see that okay?

00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.360
 Yes, no?

00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:21.880
 All we see Gary is the list, the folder list.

00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.000
 Okay, hang on.

00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.000
 There we go.

00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.000
 Okay.

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.000
 There you go.

00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.000
 Okay.

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.600
 I'm gonna make this as big as I can so you guys can see it.

00:30:31.600 --> 00:30:34.600
 Just let me know.

00:30:34.600 --> 00:30:36.880
 So let me just kind of give you a layout.

00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:43.640
 So I'm not sure what we had as a CIP plan down the road or in the past.

00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:48.720
 I never really saw anything that was detailed that kind of forecasted our projects other

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.360
 than just what we had in the works at the time.

00:30:52.360 --> 00:30:57.160
 So a few weeks ago, we started putting together a list of everything that we're working on

00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:01.580
 now and what the budget was in the year roughly that it started.

00:31:01.580 --> 00:31:07.080
 Some of these started before fiscal year '18 and then outlined what we wanted to do over

00:31:07.080 --> 00:31:09.040
 the next five years.

00:31:09.040 --> 00:31:14.640
 So we could line up funding projects and then go after grant money as well.

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:21.720
 So what you have here is column A is all of our projects that we have underworks and planned.

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:27.740
 Obviously our department, the type of construction, the status, whether it's in progress completed

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:34.040
 or not started yet for the most part, and then each year what we anticipate the project

00:31:34.040 --> 00:31:37.040
 to cost or what we have in funding.

00:31:37.040 --> 00:31:42.720
 So for instance, American Legion Hall, this started a few years ago from a planning perspective.

00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.320
 We did start construction this spring.

00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:48.980
 So that is in progress.

00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:51.020
 It's listed under fiscal year '18, '19.

00:31:51.020 --> 00:31:55.160
 So some of these are, these two columns here are a little bit of a catch up in regards

00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.360
 to when the project actually started, so it's kind of a catch all.

00:32:00.360 --> 00:32:05.720
 But all these projects here are from fiscal year '18, '19.

00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:10.600
 As you see, most of those are completed except for American Legion Hall.

00:32:10.600 --> 00:32:16.560
 We anticipate that to be completed next spring, provided we don't have a lot of rain at this

00:32:16.560 --> 00:32:19.280
 point.

00:32:19.280 --> 00:32:23.600
 Then for fiscal year '19, '20, that's where we're at today.

00:32:23.600 --> 00:32:30.560
 These are some of those projects that have been ongoing or have been planned.

00:32:30.560 --> 00:32:33.040
 Carnegie Ridge property, that's completed.

00:32:33.040 --> 00:32:36.520
 Dallas and Teasley meeting, that's completed.

00:32:36.520 --> 00:32:37.800
 Industrial Park is done.

00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:41.160
 We replaced our irrigation controllers and our park maintenance.

00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:46.360
 A number of playground structures have been built, North Lakes Park, a maintenance shed.

00:32:46.360 --> 00:32:48.280
 We did some soccer fencing.

00:32:48.280 --> 00:32:49.960
 We're still working on the master plan.

00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:57.280
 That took a major hit with some staff leaving and COVID, it's come to a pause.

00:32:57.280 --> 00:33:00.540
 So we're trying to get that back up and running.

00:33:00.540 --> 00:33:07.880
 We redid the Dina Rec Center parking lot and put a dumpster wrap for the dumpsters there.

00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:11.180
 Quaker Town playground.

00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:17.320
 So those are a number of the projects that we have been working on to date.

00:33:17.320 --> 00:33:24.400
 Now as we start going down here, I'll just scroll down a little bit and starting here,

00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:31.960
 our projects that we're starting to look at for 2021, so next fiscal year starting October,

00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.240
 we're already started a number of these.

00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:39.680
 We're in the bid process right now and going to council for Joe Skow's playground.

00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.400
 All the playgrounds in here are part of our playground replacement plan and when they

00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.040
 were projected to be replaced.

00:33:46.040 --> 00:33:49.200
 We did apply for some USTA grants.

00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:58.240
 Staff is replacing 18 scoreboards 24, 24 scoreboards on all of our athletic fields.

00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:03.880
 We have some property acquisition that we're working on McKenna Park improvements.

00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:09.320
 That's been an ongoing thing with the construction of Bonnie Bray and some actually three of

00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:15.280
 the roads around the park are under construction and eventually removing that dirt.

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.840
 So we're replacing the playground there and we'll be installing a loop trail on a parking

00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.260
 lot.

00:34:20.260 --> 00:34:25.480
 We're doing some renovations to Bowling Green with a new playground and some trail improvements

00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.080
 there.

00:34:27.080 --> 00:34:36.040
 Let's see, a few master planning projects that we're starting to work on.

00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:45.040
 So for instance, villages of the Carmel property in Southeast Denton, just off of 35E.

00:34:45.040 --> 00:34:47.440
 We don't necessarily have enough money to do that.

00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.280
 We have a lot of 9, 15, 16 funding.

00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.680
 So we're going to go ahead and do a couple of parks and have them master planned so they're

00:34:53.680 --> 00:34:57.700
 shovel ready so we can apply for a grant through Texas Parks and Wildlife.

00:34:57.700 --> 00:35:01.880
 So we're trying to get some projects that are fully planned and ready to go and we just

00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:06.400
 put them on the shelf until we find funding for it.

00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.540
 Emergency action plan for Lake Forest, hopefully this fall we'll be heading into dredging and

00:35:10.540 --> 00:35:13.880
 repairs of the dam at the pond at Lake Forest.

00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:20.120
 Our athletic field lighting, we're proposing to replace systematically over the next five

00:35:20.120 --> 00:35:27.560
 or six years and then just kind of on and on over the next five years is a list of projects,

00:35:27.560 --> 00:35:37.860
 whether it's sculptures, media improvements, maintenance at our cemeteries, trail development.

00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:43.220
 So there's a list of projects here that helps us forecast what we're going to be working

00:35:43.220 --> 00:35:44.220
 on.

00:35:44.220 --> 00:35:47.680
 It doesn't mean we have money for everything at this point in time and it doesn't mean

00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:50.920
 that this is the final project.

00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.160
 This thing changes on a weekly basis.

00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:55.820
 We tweak it here and there.

00:35:55.820 --> 00:36:02.760
 As things come and go, we'll make those adjustments as needed and be flexible with that.

00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.040
 But we wanted to share it with you guys so you could look at it.

00:36:06.040 --> 00:36:12.100
 A number of these things we have pulled from discussions during our master plan process

00:36:12.100 --> 00:36:13.720
 and meeting with the community.

00:36:13.720 --> 00:36:18.340
 Some of these things that have come from staff in regards to, hey, this playground is in

00:36:18.340 --> 00:36:22.680
 bad shape, it's on the playground replacement plan that we forecasted.

00:36:22.680 --> 00:36:29.040
 So we've taken a number of communication aspects from the community and tried to build this

00:36:29.040 --> 00:36:35.240
 plan and make adjustments as we can, as well as look at where we have some funding.

00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:39.600
 We're trying to use our land dedication and development fees as much as possible.

00:36:39.600 --> 00:36:41.640
 So that's another consideration.

00:36:41.640 --> 00:36:44.520
 So you may say, well, why village is a Carmel over this park?

00:36:44.520 --> 00:36:50.760
 It's like, well, there's money sitting in that neighborhood for that park, so that helped

00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.560
 us make that decision that we're trying to utilize that money and get it into action

00:36:55.560 --> 00:36:56.560
 for the community.

00:36:56.560 --> 00:37:03.940
 So a lot of those things were considered, not just public feedback as well.

00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:13.560
 So I'm going to stop sharing and then just open up for conversation.

00:37:13.560 --> 00:37:16.560
 Questions, concerns?

00:37:16.560 --> 00:37:18.560
 Brooke?

00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:26.320
 I was just going to say in regards to the master plan, I would imagine that that probably

00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:32.920
 would look very different now than even people's responses were six months ago.

00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:39.060
 So are you guys kind of taking that into consideration as you're moving forward with the master plan

00:37:39.060 --> 00:37:43.840
 and whoever is conducting it to reevaluate where people stand and what their priorities

00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.680
 are or how do you go about doing that?

00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:48.980
 That's a great, great point.

00:37:48.980 --> 00:37:51.960
 We're not sure what we look like post COVID.

00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:57.640
 We know what we feel like in COVID, but what does parks and recreation look like after

00:37:57.640 --> 00:37:59.120
 this is over?

00:37:59.120 --> 00:38:05.320
 Obviously, a lot of, if you go to try to buy a bike or a canoe right now, good luck because

00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.360
 they don't exist.

00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.800
 So a lot of people are doing outdoor activities that they can do in small groups by themselves

00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:14.720
 or with families.

00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:19.240
 So the question of, you know, do we need to build a rec center anytime soon is a very

00:38:19.240 --> 00:38:20.680
 good question.

00:38:20.680 --> 00:38:28.600
 Obviously, we did a needs assessment survey a year ago, last July.

00:38:28.600 --> 00:38:32.120
 And those questions may be dated at this point in time.

00:38:32.120 --> 00:38:38.400
 With staff being shorted, with us being short staffed and Glenn left in February and that

00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:44.600
 was doing our master plan, we are putting out an RFQ to hire a firm to help us get to

00:38:44.600 --> 00:38:46.680
 the finish line and finish that.

00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:48.980
 That's going to be a discussion that we're going to have.

00:38:48.980 --> 00:38:54.800
 The items that are in the five-year plan are mostly outdoor amenities.

00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:56.960
 So I think we're fine there.

00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:01.840
 The things that aren't on here that we do have kind of in an outline are the big ticket

00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:09.560
 items, replacement of the senior center, a field house that was talked about a lot, a

00:39:09.560 --> 00:39:12.360
 southern rec center.

00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:16.520
 So all of those things have to have more discussion.

00:39:16.520 --> 00:39:18.620
 Those are bond-related initiatives.

00:39:18.620 --> 00:39:24.080
 So the biggest thing you see on here roughly is probably land acquisition and maybe some

00:39:24.080 --> 00:39:29.200
 neighborhood park development and then the tennis center, for example.

00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:32.600
 Those are the biggest ticket items on here.

00:39:32.600 --> 00:39:40.440
 But the 25, the $50 million renovations, the renovation or construction for Southwest Park

00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.320
 is probably $25, $50 million, depending on what goes in it.

00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:46.520
 That's not on here.

00:39:46.520 --> 00:39:50.120
 So those big ticket items we didn't put on here purposely because there needs to be some

00:39:50.120 --> 00:39:55.640
 more discussion about that.

00:39:55.640 --> 00:39:57.480
 I have a question.

00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.640
 Did we lose a board member?

00:39:59.640 --> 00:40:00.640
 Mr. Emmerich?

00:40:00.640 --> 00:40:01.640
 James and George.

00:40:01.640 --> 00:40:02.640
 Oh, George is still here.

00:40:02.640 --> 00:40:03.640
 Okay.

00:40:03.640 --> 00:40:04.640
 Oh, there he is.

00:40:04.640 --> 00:40:05.640
 Sorry.

00:40:05.640 --> 00:40:06.640
 I have a lot of things going on.

00:40:06.640 --> 00:40:07.640
 I apologize.

00:40:07.640 --> 00:40:08.640
 I'm not leaving.

00:40:08.640 --> 00:40:09.640
 I'm right here.

00:40:09.640 --> 00:40:25.120
 So our virtual host, did Mr. Emmerich get knocked out?

00:40:25.120 --> 00:40:30.680
 And also, I'm sorry, I'm drawing a blank on her name, the other board member that joined

00:40:30.680 --> 00:40:32.360
 when he joined.

00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.080
 Denona, she was just here.

00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:38.520
 I think she's off as well.

00:40:38.520 --> 00:40:40.500
 She is gone as well.

00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:47.680
 Well, we still have a quorum, so we can continue.

00:40:47.680 --> 00:40:52.800
 We'll keep an eye out for when and if they try to get back on, it could be a connection

00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:53.800
 issue.

00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:54.800
 Okay.

00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.520
 Does someone have their phone numbers and can reach out to them?

00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:02.000
 Eddie, do you have that capability?

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:09.960
 I'm sorry, you have to use the Russian.

00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.960
 I just walked right in.

00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:18.960
 You have the phone numbers for Denona, and Mr. Emmerich, they have dropped out of the

00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:19.960
 meeting.

00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:20.960
 I do.

00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:21.960
 I have it.

00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.120
 Let me pull that up real quick.

00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:31.960
 And I think I sent forward you an email about James Emmerich, I missed the email earlier

00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:36.080
 this morning, and he said that he was going to leave early for a work meeting, but he's

00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:38.200
 going to dial back on.

00:41:38.200 --> 00:41:39.200
 Okay.

00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:40.200
 Oh, okay.

00:41:40.200 --> 00:41:41.200
 Okay.

00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:42.200
 All right.

00:41:42.200 --> 00:41:49.320
 So we do have a hard stop at 2.30, because there's another public meeting at 3 o'clock.

00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.280
 So just want to...

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:52.280
 Okay.

00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:58.640
 Everybody is working on that, so Gary, you are needing us to give feedback and approval

00:41:58.640 --> 00:42:00.880
 of this five-year plan, correct?

00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:01.880
 Yeah.

00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:03.700
 Feedback is great.

00:42:03.700 --> 00:42:07.320
 Make sure that we're heading in the right direction.

00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.240
 If it's not on here now, it doesn't mean it's never going to be on here.

00:42:11.240 --> 00:42:16.520
 We'll keep adding things as things come up, and this helps us keep track of projects so

00:42:16.520 --> 00:42:22.040
 we can forecast and balance our revenue, as well as it can be used as a platform for our

00:42:22.040 --> 00:42:23.760
 next bond initiative.

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.480
 So they have kind of somewhere to start.

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.400
 We are working on some new software in the city that's going to help us track all our

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.400
 capital projects, so that was another reason why we started doing this.

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:42.040
 But it really provides us a baseline foundation for us to work from and communicate those

00:42:42.040 --> 00:42:44.280
 needs and start planning.

00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:48.920
 We've made a considerable amount of progress on our trails master plan, and I know we brought

00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.720
 that to you probably six months ago.

00:42:51.720 --> 00:42:55.440
 Our next meeting, we'll probably share that with you because we're just about done with

00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:02.360
 that portion of the master plan, and there's a spreadsheet that looks similar to this just

00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.680
 for the trails.

00:43:04.680 --> 00:43:11.240
 So we are getting very detailed with things that we can be doing, so we can plan and really

00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:16.000
 sell what we're trying to do for the community.

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.560
 So since this is, I'm sorry, David.

00:43:19.560 --> 00:43:25.560
 Just a quick question, I noticed in the agenda there was a pretty good explanation for a

00:43:25.560 --> 00:43:28.160
 number of the items that were on that spreadsheet.

00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:32.920
 I don't think they were all on there unless I missed some.

00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:38.680
 Is there a comprehensive list where if I was looking at that spreadsheet, I could pick

00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:43.560
 any item off of it and get just a quick description of what that's about?

00:43:43.560 --> 00:43:46.440
 Is there a document that might have that?

00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.860
 Because I know what the majority of those are, but there were a few that I wouldn't

00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:52.360
 be able to answer if somebody asked me for sure.

00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:59.560
 So I know probably a year or so ago, shortly after you started, we started doing a project

00:43:59.560 --> 00:44:01.800
 kind of spreadsheet that had some of that detail.

00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.200
 Yeah, I remember that.

00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:05.200
 We weren't able to keep up with it.

00:44:05.200 --> 00:44:11.600
 So what we're doing with our software is it has descriptions for each one of these projects,

00:44:11.600 --> 00:44:15.760
 and we'll be able to literally print you out a report, and it'll give you tracking to

00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:22.520
 that day, progress from a percentage, a Gantt chart of all the steps within that project,

00:44:22.520 --> 00:44:25.960
 and where our budget is, and when we anticipate it being completed.

00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.480
 So we're working to be able to provide that.

00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:35.040
 We can probably put something together for you for the park board that has that outlined

00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:38.280
 and get it to you fairly soon that gives you a little more detail.

00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.560
 Well, I wouldn't want to waste inordinate resources on it.

00:44:41.560 --> 00:44:44.920
 If it was something that was available, I'd like to see it, but I hate to diverse you guys

00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.000
 for something that may not provide a lot of value.

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:50.000
 I think we have it.

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.800
 I think I can cut it, paste it into an Excel document, and share it with you guys.

00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.880
 It won't be that much.

00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.680
 You guys are always open for questions, and we have it anyway, so that's right.

00:45:00.680 --> 00:45:08.400
 Okay, so this is an ongoing project.

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:16.120
 We are proving you just moving forward with it and presenting it to the council.

00:45:16.120 --> 00:45:17.440
 What are you asking for us?

00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:24.400
 If you could, based on what you provided, give us some support, a head nod or a thumbs

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.920
 up that we're heading in the right direction.

00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:31.120
 If there's anything that you see is concerning, please let us know.

00:45:31.120 --> 00:45:36.200
 If not, we're going to keep moving forward, and probably every year during your budget

00:45:36.200 --> 00:45:42.200
 time we'll be coming to you hopefully maybe more like May, June with an updated five-year

00:45:42.200 --> 00:45:43.840
 plan to show you.

00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:49.240
 If anything significantly changes during the year, we'll give you an FYI or more than likely

00:45:49.240 --> 00:45:54.040
 if it's that significant, you're going to get a staff report, a master plan, or whatever

00:45:54.040 --> 00:45:55.520
 it would be.

00:45:55.520 --> 00:45:58.820
 So you'll see those changes along the way.

00:45:58.820 --> 00:46:05.460
 This is not a document that's kind of stamped and said done, this is it, but I want to make

00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.960
 sure that we're communicating to you where we're going from and where we're trying to

00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.720
 spend the money and the efforts and how we're coming up with that process.

00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:19.560
 So it would be great to get that thumbs up from you guys that we're heading in the right

00:46:19.560 --> 00:46:27.200
 direction, or thumbs down we're not, and change accordingly, and I think that's kind of where

00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:28.200
 we're at.

00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:31.720
 I've got a comment on that if you're open to it.

00:46:31.720 --> 00:46:37.800
 I think, one, it's a great overall holistic view of what's going on.

00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:43.480
 I think it's going to help you prioritize and triage as variables change.

00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:48.400
 And I think it's informational, yet it's also open-ended enough that it's going to be flexible

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:49.440
 for movement.

00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:56.120
 So from my perspective, I don't think you could provide a lot better direction based

00:46:56.120 --> 00:46:58.440
 on what we have.

00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.160
 This is a very aggressive plan.

00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:06.520
 If anything, we may end up spreading things out a little bit more.

00:47:06.520 --> 00:47:11.760
 So it can be challenging trying to pull off all this construction effort and improvements

00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:17.440
 that quickly, but we feel like we're trying to make a substantial effort for the community.

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.320
 So that's our approach.

00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:20.320
 Okay.

00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.200
 And I want to commend you on that.

00:47:22.200 --> 00:47:26.640
 And so if you could, if it's okay, can we use the reactions or do you want a physical

00:47:26.640 --> 00:47:28.640
 hand?

00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:37.640
 I guess you could just use a thumbs up, it'd be fine.

00:47:37.640 --> 00:47:39.540
 All right.

00:47:39.540 --> 00:47:40.860
 Thank you all.

00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:46.560
 Next item, receive an informal report regarding the playground replacement plan for Bowling

00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:50.920
 Green, Joe Stiles, Mack Park, and McKenna Park.

00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:51.920
 Okay.

00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:52.920
 Give me a second.

00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:59.000
 I'll pull that up.

00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:05.680
 Eddie, while he's doing that, did we find Danona?

00:48:05.680 --> 00:48:09.800
 You're in the process of trying to get in touch with her now.

00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:10.800
 Okay.

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:11.800
 Thank you.

00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:16.160
 So Drew, Drew Huffman is going to lead us in this discussion and I'm going to work the

00:48:16.160 --> 00:48:17.160
 controls.

00:48:17.160 --> 00:48:18.160
 Okay.

00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:19.160
 Thank you.

00:48:19.160 --> 00:48:20.160
 All right.

00:48:20.160 --> 00:48:24.160
 I'll let Gary pull it up.

00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:29.080
 So we just wanted to make sure we brought this to you and showed you the amount of playgrounds

00:48:29.080 --> 00:48:31.680
 and the amount of planning that's gone in to get these playgrounds.

00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:35.160
 Like Gary said that, you know, we were working on our capital plan.

00:48:35.160 --> 00:48:41.980
 Well, this changes because whether we get funding from another source or we find funding

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:47.000
 and we try to bundle these packages together to get more of an economic scale for purchasing

00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.640
 power, and this is kind of where the playgrounds went.

00:48:50.640 --> 00:48:55.400
 I started with two playgrounds and I think we have five now.

00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.040
 So it's been pretty exciting.

00:48:58.040 --> 00:49:03.920
 So we're four on this spreadsheet and there may be another one numbering you in August.

00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:10.080
 So you know, we developed the playground replacement plan that was on this sheet also.

00:49:10.080 --> 00:49:14.400
 And then we kind of went over that last year on how we went through and decided, you know,

00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:19.360
 or showed where the playgrounds when they were installed, put them on a 15-year life

00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:25.360
 cycle and, you know, and how they get installed throughout those the following 15 years.

00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.640
 Some playgrounds last longer than others, and we've really seen that also, you know,

00:49:29.640 --> 00:49:34.600
 due to shade, you know, abuse, use, and all the other things that go along with using

00:49:34.600 --> 00:49:36.800
 playgrounds, how that really works.

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:41.920
 So you can go to the next slide, Gary.

00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:42.920
 Here's the replacement plan.

00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:47.360
 I know we went over that, you know, about a year ago and it kind of shows you, you know,

00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.120
 what our anticipated cost for those playgrounds.

00:49:50.120 --> 00:49:56.160
 Those do vary just depending on size, whether we change the whole footprint of the playground

00:49:56.160 --> 00:50:00.440
 or maybe we move it like we're moving to McKenna, it costs more to go in and add all that extra

00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.320
 concrete and all that extra work to actually move the playground from its existing location

00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.720
 to a new location.

00:50:08.720 --> 00:50:15.240
 Gary, you're on mute.

00:50:15.240 --> 00:50:22.120
 Okay, sorry, just to get quick rundown of what you're seeing here.

00:50:22.120 --> 00:50:26.480
 So obviously all our playgrounds to the left, manufacturer, the age, the square footage,

00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.360
 and when they're due for replacement and the anticipated replacement cost.

00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:36.240
 That is with a 3% escalator compounded annually.

00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:41.440
 The blue are playgrounds that we've replaced since 2018.

00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.360
 The orange are playgrounds that we have funding for.

00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:50.760
 The red playgrounds are ones that are set to be replaced or anticipated to be replaced

00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:55.840
 in that calendar year, but are past their 15-year lifespan.

00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.080
 That does not mean they're dangerous.

00:50:58.080 --> 00:51:00.700
 That just means it's past the 15 years.

00:51:00.700 --> 00:51:05.320
 Some playgrounds are 20 years old and they're fine based on what Drew said, if they're in

00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:09.640
 the shade, if they haven't been vandalized a lot, they can last longer.

00:51:09.640 --> 00:51:15.160
 But this at least gives us an idea of what we have coming and what we need funding for.

00:51:15.160 --> 00:51:18.740
 And then the greens are replacement on schedule.

00:51:18.740 --> 00:51:22.200
 So that's what you're looking at.

00:51:22.200 --> 00:51:30.600
 All right, the first playground we want to show you was bowling green.

00:51:30.600 --> 00:51:35.560
 So bowling green kind of goes back to, hey, we're going to put it in the same exact footprint,

00:51:35.560 --> 00:51:39.360
 but the footprint is too small to really get the number of play features that we really

00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:40.680
 want for a playground.

00:51:40.680 --> 00:51:44.640
 So we're going to cut the concrete, we're going to make that area larger inside the

00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:48.880
 border to really get some good play features in that playground.

00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.640
 This playground actually right here will be one of the first ones installed in the nation

00:51:52.640 --> 00:51:54.460
 of this design.

00:51:54.460 --> 00:52:02.320
 So also the kind of the colors, which we've really utilized this COVID time of going back

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:06.200
 and forth and sending emails, and then we'll jump online and show each other screens and

00:52:06.200 --> 00:52:11.320
 kind of share, hey, here's color options, help me pick, or what are your kids, what

00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.360
 is their most favorite play feature of a playground?

00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.920
 And then obviously, we need shade, the shade here at Bowling Green is really good.

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:28.880
 We have some really nice trees on the southwest side of that park or that play area there.

00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.040
 So it'll be really nice.

00:52:30.040 --> 00:52:33.240
 Also, you remember that the community gardens are there.

00:52:33.240 --> 00:52:37.200
 That's another reason why this color scheme kind of went with this playground, and we

00:52:37.200 --> 00:52:40.000
 really look forward to getting this installed.

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:46.680
 It was originally installed in 2001, so it is over its lifespan.

00:52:46.680 --> 00:52:52.120
 It has had some issues over the years just with maintenance and its durability.

00:52:52.120 --> 00:52:57.480
 We're not going back with the same vendor, we're going with a vendor that gave us that

00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.880
 full 15-year bumper-to-bumper warranty.

00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:07.560
 So that's really nice too, especially on a maintenance aspect.

00:53:07.560 --> 00:53:08.920
 Next one's Joe Skiles.

00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:18.720
 Question for you, Drew, on that previous park, I saw the tables and benches, is there need

00:53:18.720 --> 00:53:25.040
 for shade structures for those, or is it set in a way where it's shaded naturally by trees?

00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:27.560
 It's set in a way where it's shaded at times.

00:53:27.560 --> 00:53:30.160
 Okay, thank you.

00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:35.840
 And a lot of those are already existing, so it doesn't, you know, this playground doesn't

00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:40.040
 give you the joes or the bow and green, doesn't show you the trees that are already there,

00:53:40.040 --> 00:53:44.080
 but you have the bench that's between the playground and the swing set, the trees are

00:53:44.080 --> 00:53:45.760
 there.

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:50.280
 And so you'll have the shade on one of the picnic tables, and then one of the picnic

00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.920
 tables that will be, you know, in sun probably in the morning and then shaded in the evening,

00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:59.000
 and then you have shade over here for this bench that will be on the south or the west

00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:00.760
 side of the playground.

00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:01.760
 Perfect.

00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:07.160
 Thank you.

00:54:07.160 --> 00:54:08.160
 Joe Scowles.

00:54:08.160 --> 00:54:13.680
 So, Joe Scowles is over, you know, about 35E, kind of across from the mall in that area

00:54:13.680 --> 00:54:18.680
 in the Southridge area, so same time frame, really it's almost the exact same playground

00:54:18.680 --> 00:54:22.280
 that was at both playgrounds currently.

00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:29.400
 This is obviously a different color, different play features, kind of the same shade top,

00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:34.020
 but here's another playground, we went through and picked colors, like I said, we went through,

00:54:34.020 --> 00:54:38.600
 you know, lots of us in the office, kind of, hey, what are your favorite colors?

00:54:38.600 --> 00:54:39.600
 What would you really like here?

00:54:39.600 --> 00:54:41.760
 How does this really fit in?

00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:49.200
 So that's how these colors were picked, but this also is just a, it's called a Vente,

00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:53.680
 that's their Vente version of their playground, so that's the name of it, and it really has

00:54:53.680 --> 00:54:57.840
 some really nice play features for all ages, and I think the kids are really going to have

00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.040
 a lot of fun on this playground.

00:55:00.040 --> 00:55:05.760
 Just to add, this is a combination of 9, 15, 16 funding and some bond playground money

00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:10.920
 that we are going to, hopefully using, we're going to be going to the bond oversight committee,

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:17.020
 ask them to redirect some extra money for playgrounds to this site.

00:55:17.020 --> 00:55:22.960
 That looks like just bare or brushed aluminum or something, is that what that's actually

00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.360
 made of, or is it a plastic kind of covering that's just that color?

00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:28.360
 The metal?

00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.040
 Yeah, I mean, is that actually metal metal?

00:55:31.040 --> 00:55:33.920
 Yeah, it's metal metal, and it's powder coated that color.

00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:38.280
 Okay, that's where I was going, I wasn't coming up with the right terminology, okay.

00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.600
 So it, yeah, it's metal metal, but it's powder coated that color.

00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:45.040
 I understand, thanks.

00:55:45.040 --> 00:55:51.080
 And the next one, Mack Park, this is the playground that's currently there, as you can see, as

00:55:51.080 --> 00:55:54.480
 you can see, you know, you go back to the playgrounds that we've replaced in the past

00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.520
 couple years, and the playgrounds I just showed you, it doesn't have, you know, near the amount

00:55:59.520 --> 00:56:05.080
 of play features or really an ICD to it, it's starting to really get warped to where, you

00:56:05.080 --> 00:56:10.120
 know, that coating is coming off all the platforms, we're having issues with the slides, it's

00:56:10.120 --> 00:56:11.680
 just hit its lifespan.

00:56:11.680 --> 00:56:17.360
 So we're in design right now, we've narrowed it down to two designs that we really like,

00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.680
 those two designs have, you know, whenever you're looking at things, things are going

00:56:22.680 --> 00:56:27.560
 to cost differently, so they're about a $30,000 difference in the two designs that we have

00:56:27.560 --> 00:56:31.560
 at the moment, so we're trying to make up our mind whether we spend the extra $30,000

00:56:31.560 --> 00:56:37.120
 to get a larger, more, a larger playground there, kind of go with a more conservative

00:56:37.120 --> 00:56:39.220
 playground for less money.

00:56:39.220 --> 00:56:44.120
 But still, in this area, you have two playgrounds, so we have the Mack North, which is this playground,

00:56:44.120 --> 00:56:49.040
 and then you have Roberts or Mack South, which has a really nice playground also, so we're

00:56:49.040 --> 00:56:54.040
 going through that decision making process at the moment, but we'll, we'll have bundled

00:56:54.040 --> 00:56:58.480
 in these playgrounds, Mack will be in that bundle, and so we should make our decision

00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:03.100
 this week, and I can bring it back in August, or I can send you an ISR and show you which

00:57:03.100 --> 00:57:08.040
 one we picked and all the colors, so we work with DBBI also, because, you know, these,

00:57:08.040 --> 00:57:11.260
 this one's at the ball fields.

00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:17.100
 So next is my favorite right now, is really, we were really happy to put this one together,

00:57:17.100 --> 00:57:24.900
 this is not a playground in their catalog at all, we just, we took about three or four

00:57:24.900 --> 00:57:29.600
 different designs, and, you know, Gary said he really liked this, and Laura said she liked

00:57:29.600 --> 00:57:33.920
 this, and Jason Bunnell, our park planner, liked this, and, you know, we had a couple

00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.500
 other people in the office put it together, and we went back, and, you know, us with small

00:57:37.500 --> 00:57:40.560
 children said, "Hey, what's your favorite play feature, what do you really like to play

00:57:40.560 --> 00:57:41.560
 in?"

00:57:41.560 --> 00:57:46.080
 Because, you know, our kids are all different ages, and what, what, what they really, really

00:57:46.080 --> 00:57:52.560
 like to do, so, this one's going to be at McKenna, it'll be, of course, this one's completely,

00:57:52.560 --> 00:57:57.480
 you know, we went over the McKenna reconstruction a couple months ago, this is going to go up

00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:02.920
 by where the cedar trees are, closer to the, to Thomas Street, at Thomas and Scripture,

00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.360
 versus where the playground is now, the old playground will be removed, and this new playground

00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.040
 will go, will go in.

00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:21.120
 So, I have a general, I have a general question, and David, you know, alluded to this, the

00:58:21.120 --> 00:58:30.280
 metal on the playgrounds, how, when you, you say it's coated, the heat, the Texas heat,

00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:38.320
 and the effect of metal, I know you've, you probably told us this before, but I have forgotten,

00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:45.640
 tell us, what do you consider when you look at the metal pieces for the playgrounds?

00:58:45.640 --> 00:58:51.320
 So really it has to do with durability, and of course colors go into that a lot, so, you

00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:56.520
 know, we try to pick a lot of, you know, kind of neutral colors and softer colors so they

00:58:56.520 --> 00:59:01.440
 don't absorb as much heat, and also we wrote into our new specifications, we changed them

00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:08.360
 for what we, last time we had playgrounds versus this time, where we required 50% shade

00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.640
 to cover playground features, and you can see, especially if you're, if you go back

00:59:12.640 --> 00:59:16.360
 to the McKenna playground, it kind of gives you, that rendering gives you a look on how

00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:21.680
 much shade's coming down from the shade cloths, and of course it'll depend on the time of

00:59:21.680 --> 00:59:27.720
 day that we're playing on the playground, I guess Gary's gonna bring it back up.

00:59:27.720 --> 00:59:32.040
 But you can see how much shade is over the big section of the playground, and of course

00:59:32.040 --> 00:59:35.800
 how much shade really puts on the ground and puts on those features, and then of course,

00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:41.160
 you know, with that playground there, the two to five area that has a smaller square

00:59:41.160 --> 00:59:44.720
 shade cloth, you can see how much shade's going down on top of that two to five, that

00:59:44.720 --> 00:59:48.840
 taut area of the playground.

00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:54.560
 Just to add one additional comment, you know, I've encouraged Drew, and we've talked a lot

00:59:54.560 --> 00:59:59.680
 about using reds and purples, if you look at McKenna, I think we have reds and purples

00:59:59.680 --> 01:00:07.120
 there right now, and they do not hold their color very well in the sun, so it makes them

01:00:07.120 --> 01:00:12.840
 look a lot older than they are as well, so we're trying to stay away from those colors.

01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:20.160
 The lime greens and the steel colors and the dark blues have really, and the yellows have

01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:27.720
 really come in trendy, so that's kind of like a new wave, and they're going to more climbing

01:00:27.720 --> 01:00:33.000
 type of playgrounds that we're trying to incorporate some of that too, so we're trying to get out

01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:39.200
 of just the regular traditional slide, you know, real basic things, try to do things

01:00:39.200 --> 01:00:43.480
 a little bit differently and add some new play features to our community.

01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:45.920
 Okay, thank you.

01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.640
 Any additional questions?

01:00:47.640 --> 01:00:57.120
 Hi, I actually have a few questions about the design of the playgrounds, I appreciate

01:00:57.120 --> 01:01:02.040
 that y'all have been working hard on them and talking internally about the design, but

01:01:02.040 --> 01:01:07.440
 I feel like a lot of the things we've talked about in past meetings were forgotten about

01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:14.560
 or not incorporated, like having more natural looks to the playgrounds, or I know some of

01:01:14.560 --> 01:01:27.000
 the designs that Glen brought to us incorporated, like, leafs and different natural shapes.

01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:33.280
 I didn't see like any boulders or stomps or anything like that, and I just, these are

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:39.320
 our spaces, we're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on these spaces, and our children

01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:46.280
 are running out of like, places to play in nature, and when we just have them like, blue

01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:53.360
 and plastic and metal, without very much nature around them, that's not preparing for our

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:59.040
 children to have those natural spaces around their homes, and that's very concerning to

01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:00.840
 me, personally.

01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:17.400
 And I also, I feel like places for parents to sit while the kids play are just as important

01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.400
 as the actual equipment that they're being played on, and I understand there are all

01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:28.960
 kinds of cost points, but if the parents don't have a shady place to sit, they're not going

01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:35.720
 to take their kid during the day, because it's so uncomfortable and miserable.

01:02:35.720 --> 01:02:42.840
 So I guess I would just like to know if like, the parent's sitting place has been considered

01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:50.680
 and like, the idea for natural playscapes is being considered.

01:02:50.680 --> 01:02:57.800
 So to answer, I guess the last question first, what you see on those designs are computer

01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:02.360
 generated, they're not necessarily, the benches aren't where we're going to specifically put

01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:08.440
 them, so that, it's just more or less what the play feature, kind of inside the woodchips

01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:11.280
 is going to look like.

01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:15.760
 The shape structures are pretty expensive.

01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:22.560
 We looked at a shape structure that would go over Nettie Schultz, and it is $92,000

01:03:22.560 --> 01:03:27.200
 just for that playground, and there's really not much to it.

01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:36.060
 We're trying to balance replacing old equipment and kind of get caught up with structures

01:03:36.060 --> 01:03:42.760
 and balance as much shade as we can put in there, as opposed to putting a tent completely

01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:49.580
 over it, similar to Denia, where it's almost like an event tent.

01:03:49.580 --> 01:03:59.520
 From a nature themed standpoint, I agree with you, we do need to put more into that.

01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:04.920
 We can still put boulders in there, we can put stamps in the concrete.

01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:10.200
 Grand Prairie specifically took leaves, and they made stamps of leaves that are trees

01:04:10.200 --> 01:04:15.760
 in their community and stamped them in the concrete, so it incorporated some play into

01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.620
 a concrete, something as simple as concrete.

01:04:18.620 --> 01:04:22.460
 But we can do some more of that.

01:04:22.460 --> 01:04:26.920
 There are some designs, I think Drew had shared with us, that some of the companies are working

01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:31.920
 on that's more nature related, that we can definitely look at for the next ones.

01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:35.720
 Drew, shake your head.

01:04:35.720 --> 01:04:39.520
 So there are some new structures coming out.

01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:47.540
 Some of the features that are out there, nature related, are specifically designed, and they

01:04:47.540 --> 01:04:49.120
 are going to be a lot more money.

01:04:49.120 --> 01:04:55.100
 We can continue to look at those in the future, for sure.

01:04:55.100 --> 01:04:58.800
 Based off of your feedback, we can head in that direction.

01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:04.640
 We are implementing a play feature at the Nook, similar to what you're talking about,

01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:10.480
 that's under the trees at the library that's more kind of, it's not tree stumps, but there's

01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:17.400
 circles and rectangles, those are made out of concrete, based on kind of some of Glen's

01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:24.520
 ideas of incorporating improvements into existing terrain.

01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:27.920
 But we can look more at that direction, for sure.

01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:31.600
 I would really like to see some of that at McKenna Park.

01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:38.280
 It's in the trees, it could be a really nice, natural looking area.

01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.840
 We are going to be putting in more trees, I'm not sure if we finalized how many and

01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.280
 exactly where.

01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:49.100
 I think there's two trees that need to be relocated.

01:05:49.100 --> 01:05:53.540
 So we are looking at some natural shade over there as well.

01:05:53.540 --> 01:05:55.440
 We just can't provide enough shade.

01:05:55.440 --> 01:06:00.980
 And then at the same time, in the wintertime, when it's cold, you want the sun too.

01:06:00.980 --> 01:06:04.300
 So it's kind of trying to provide a balance.

01:06:04.300 --> 01:06:09.060
 So Drew's implemented, I think that 50% shade for the design.

01:06:09.060 --> 01:06:11.540
 So we have some sort of balance there.

01:06:11.540 --> 01:06:17.400
 I would just like to say, can you please consider changing the blue to green or some kind of

01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:24.120
 like camouflaged color into the natural background, if it's not too late?

01:06:24.120 --> 01:06:25.360
 For which one?

01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.180
 For McKenna.

01:06:27.180 --> 01:06:35.220
 It's the only one I think that was blue.

01:06:35.220 --> 01:06:43.880
 Yeah McKenna is like a turquoise with the poles and then more of a royal blue top.

01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.980
 I totally get what you mean by natural style.

01:06:47.980 --> 01:06:52.400
 I feel like when playgrounds were closed, we had to get really creative.

01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.700
 So we used all kinds of boulders and stuff as our playground.

01:06:56.700 --> 01:07:02.080
 So I think that probably goes to kind of, when we're looking at the master plan moving

01:07:02.080 --> 01:07:06.380
 forward, that I think people's opinions on what playgrounds are going to look like are

01:07:06.380 --> 01:07:11.460
 going to be a little different too and be open to more of that style that you're referring

01:07:11.460 --> 01:07:12.460
 to.

01:07:12.460 --> 01:07:22.340
 I think it just also goes with our city sustainability goals.

01:07:22.340 --> 01:07:25.780
 Are you referring to the colors, Alana?

01:07:25.780 --> 01:07:31.060
 Yes, when I'm talking about sustainability goals, I'm talking more about like having

01:07:31.060 --> 01:07:35.500
 natural things incorporated into the playscape.

01:07:35.500 --> 01:07:38.540
 The color, it is what it is.

01:07:38.540 --> 01:07:44.380
 It's my personal preference that the playground kind of like blends in with nature, but you

01:07:44.380 --> 01:07:49.260
 could also argue that it's the color of the sky, so I mean I can see it both ways.

01:07:49.260 --> 01:07:57.100
 That's not really as big a concern to me as like having natural things for the kids to

01:07:57.100 --> 01:08:02.860
 touch and play on because they can't just go out in the woods like kids used to be able

01:08:02.860 --> 01:08:03.860
 to do.

01:08:03.860 --> 01:08:08.380
 They can't go jump on rocks and I mean all those things, there are study after study

01:08:08.380 --> 01:08:14.740
 after study that shows that jumping on rocks and playing is good for their development.

01:08:14.740 --> 01:08:19.220
 And I think that's where Gary alluded to, some of those play features are changing from

01:08:19.220 --> 01:08:25.900
 just slides and normal things that we're used to seeing on those playgrounds.

01:08:25.900 --> 01:08:29.780
 We always alluded to when guys show Gary a playground, I was like, "Look, the floor is

01:08:29.780 --> 01:08:30.780
 lava."

01:08:30.780 --> 01:08:36.500
 How do I come from one section of the playground and never touch the floor on all these features

01:08:36.500 --> 01:08:42.780
 to get from one end to the other without having to crawl down or if I do crawl down, I crawl

01:08:42.780 --> 01:08:47.460
 down and I hop on a stump or a platform and then I hop from another section.

01:08:47.460 --> 01:08:51.620
 So it's really cool to go out there and see those kids play on different features and

01:08:51.620 --> 01:08:57.460
 it all depending, no matter how old they are, if they're five or if they're 12, the floor

01:08:57.460 --> 01:08:58.460
 is lava.

01:08:58.460 --> 01:09:00.580
 So it's really neat to see that.

01:09:00.580 --> 01:09:06.260
 And we can, Drew and I can look at bringing some boulders in and periodically placing

01:09:06.260 --> 01:09:11.420
 those where the concrete ribbon would be as long as it's out of the fall zone for the

01:09:11.420 --> 01:09:18.180
 equipment to really almost look like we worked around the boulders that were in the earth,

01:09:18.180 --> 01:09:22.620
 make them look like they were naturally there and maybe incorporate some tree planting around

01:09:22.620 --> 01:09:23.620
 it.

01:09:23.620 --> 01:09:25.640
 So it looked like we incorporated nature into that.

01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:31.060
 So we can tweak some of that design to provide some of that as well.

01:09:31.060 --> 01:09:35.580
 And then, Alana, if you go back to look at McKenna, if you look on your pictures that

01:09:35.580 --> 01:09:40.820
 you have there from McKenna Park, so you have the top picture, you'll see that ribbon in

01:09:40.820 --> 01:09:46.900
 between the, I guess Gary's going to show it, the ribbon between the swings and zipline

01:09:46.900 --> 01:09:51.060
 and the playground, that's also a sitting feature.

01:09:51.060 --> 01:09:54.900
 So if you look at the very top feature, you have shade there and then depending on the

01:09:54.900 --> 01:09:59.620
 times of the day, you're going to have shade along that sitting feature there.

01:09:59.620 --> 01:10:04.940
 And that's where, you know, you could have shade as a parent.

01:10:04.940 --> 01:10:10.800
 We could incorporate some boulders like for instance here or even in here as long as it's

01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:16.660
 the right distance away from the fall areas to provide some of that natural look and,

01:10:16.660 --> 01:10:20.420
 you know, plant some trees fairly close so it looks like we, you know, we worked around

01:10:20.420 --> 01:10:25.900
 the tree and it wasn't, you know, designed and cleared and starting from scratch.

01:10:25.900 --> 01:10:29.860
 So we can try to make some of those adjustments.

01:10:29.860 --> 01:10:34.940
 We actually looked at this one almost like as a treehouse kind of concept for both of

01:10:34.940 --> 01:10:38.580
 these and this one, this was kind of more like a rocket but it's also like a treehouse.

01:10:38.580 --> 01:10:44.140
 That was one of the things that we kind of liked about it from McKenna Park because it's

01:10:44.140 --> 01:10:46.060
 kind of sitting up high.

01:10:46.060 --> 01:10:54.820
 This just lets kids get a little bit higher in that park.

01:10:54.820 --> 01:11:00.180
 I think you guys are doing awesome, I'll say we have Mulch Mountain at Avondale or we did,

01:11:00.180 --> 01:11:04.480
 I don't know if it's still there, but like the kids freaking love it.

01:11:04.480 --> 01:11:08.820
 I don't care how old you are, they're up there at the top of the Mulch Mountain and going

01:11:08.820 --> 01:11:09.820
 down to it.

01:11:09.820 --> 01:11:10.820
 We do have quite a few.

01:11:10.820 --> 01:11:13.340
 The best kids are going to love it, you're doing great.

01:11:13.340 --> 01:11:15.700
 I've seen adult kids at North Lakes Park too.

01:11:15.700 --> 01:11:16.700
 Oh yeah, exactly.

01:11:16.700 --> 01:11:21.140
 Yeah, we played on the boulders near the dog park the other day.

01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:26.620
 I guess they're by the animal shelter, but they're cool because they have all kinds of

01:11:26.620 --> 01:11:30.460
 moss and lichen growing on them and we had like this whole science lesson because of

01:11:30.460 --> 01:11:31.460
 those boulders.

01:11:31.460 --> 01:11:33.420
 So it was just like, I love that.

01:11:33.420 --> 01:11:35.820
 I want more of that for our kids.

01:11:35.820 --> 01:11:39.900
 And there's naturally going to be more of that happening starting this fall.

01:11:39.900 --> 01:11:44.500
 I can guarantee it happened at our house this spring and it will continue as I feel like

01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:48.860
 people are going to have to move outdoors into our parks and playgrounds as part of

01:11:48.860 --> 01:11:52.740
 their education plan.

01:11:52.740 --> 01:12:00.700
 One last question about accessibility, Drew or Gary.

01:12:00.700 --> 01:12:06.860
 How is that incorporated in the parks, these parks?

01:12:06.860 --> 01:12:09.420
 As far as this playground, are all the playgrounds?

01:12:09.420 --> 01:12:11.740
 The ones that we are discussing, yeah.

01:12:11.740 --> 01:12:18.020
 Yeah, so these aren't any of these playgrounds, they're not set up as, I know we talked about

01:12:18.020 --> 01:12:24.960
 a future all-inclusive playground and it's actually not on our five-year CIP list on

01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:30.340
 paper, but it is something that we are working on behind the scenes on exactly where that's

01:12:30.340 --> 01:12:31.340
 going to go.

01:12:31.340 --> 01:12:33.140
 That was part of our master plan.

01:12:33.140 --> 01:12:38.260
 Normal playgrounds do have, you know, these do have features.

01:12:38.260 --> 01:12:45.900
 We did look at McKenna and actually all four of these playgrounds you saw today to add,

01:12:45.900 --> 01:12:52.140
 you know, the rubber, not rubber mulch, but the rubber matting down for all the playgrounds,

01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:55.940
 McKenna alone was $120,000 extra.

01:12:55.940 --> 01:13:00.140
 So instead of doing wood fiber that we have at our playgrounds right now, it was another

01:13:00.140 --> 01:13:08.380
 $120,000 to put that rubber down and that rubber is, it anticipates the heat during

01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:09.420
 the summer.

01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:11.780
 It doesn't absorb like the wood fiber does.

01:13:11.780 --> 01:13:16.100
 So they do have features that wood fiber is ADA accessible.

01:13:16.100 --> 01:13:18.780
 It will have ADA ramps into the playground.

01:13:18.780 --> 01:13:24.820
 It does have platforms for ADA accessibility.

01:13:24.820 --> 01:13:28.120
 So it does meet those requirements.

01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:35.700
 If you look at, go back to McKenna, it has one of the ziplines is an ADA seat for the

01:13:35.700 --> 01:13:36.700
 zipline.

01:13:36.700 --> 01:13:42.380
 So instead of it just being one zipline there, which McKenna has at the moment, it's two

01:13:42.380 --> 01:13:43.380
 ziplines.

01:13:43.380 --> 01:13:47.020
 So a normal zipline that you jump on and sit, kind of like the ziplines that we have at

01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:48.180
 Eureka 2 right now.

01:13:48.180 --> 01:13:55.540
 But it also has an ADA seat for the second zipline there at the new McKenna playground.

01:13:55.540 --> 01:14:00.540
 Just to add to Drew, the engineered wood fibers, it's not just a regular mulch that you can

01:14:00.540 --> 01:14:01.540
 buy at a landscape.

01:14:01.540 --> 01:14:02.540
 No, it's not.

01:14:02.540 --> 01:14:06.980
 It's specifically for so you can get a wheelchair in there.

01:14:06.980 --> 01:14:09.440
 So that is ADA accessible.

01:14:09.440 --> 01:14:13.860
 But that playground doesn't mean that every kid that's in a wheelchair can get into the

01:14:13.860 --> 01:14:18.220
 play structure and reach all of the play features.

01:14:18.220 --> 01:14:21.980
 There's a certain amount or percentage of features that have to be accessible from the

01:14:21.980 --> 01:14:22.980
 ground.

01:14:22.980 --> 01:14:27.880
 There is a transfer station for kids to be able to pull themselves up into the play structure

01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:29.880
 if they like.

01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:36.020
 But that's part of the ADA accessibility rules that are out there for playground design.

01:14:36.020 --> 01:14:38.620
 But we're trying to incorporate as much as we can.

01:14:38.620 --> 01:14:40.840
 There is a retaining wall and steps in there.

01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:44.940
 If a child or adult in a wheelchair that wants to get there, they can just go around the

01:14:44.940 --> 01:14:47.020
 perimeter to get to the other side.

01:14:47.020 --> 01:14:51.360
 So it is accessible and it will be.

01:14:51.360 --> 01:15:01.580
 But we do have an inclusive playground in the five-year plan for design for '21-'22.

01:15:01.580 --> 01:15:07.480
 That is in there with anticipation of building it a few years later.

01:15:07.480 --> 01:15:08.480
 Thank you.

01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:10.580
 I appreciate that information.

01:15:10.580 --> 01:15:12.620
 Any additional questions and concerns?

01:15:12.620 --> 01:15:17.260
 I was just curious if there are any other things that could be added, say like to Mack

01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:23.900
 Park, if it's a smaller park, if that style of flooring could be placed there to make

01:15:23.900 --> 01:15:29.780
 it a more accessible park and utilize some of that accessibility funding that we have

01:15:29.780 --> 01:15:39.000
 to help so that there's something now to meet the current needs?

01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:40.000
 We can look at it.

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:46.340
 I know Drew had gotten a price for each one of them.

01:15:46.340 --> 01:15:49.460
 I can't remember what the price was for that additional poured-in-place feature.

01:15:49.460 --> 01:15:57.420
 I would have to go back, but typically, poured-in-place is anywhere from seven to ten times more than

01:15:57.420 --> 01:16:03.180
 what 5R is, and 5R is what we normally have or what we have in there.

01:16:03.180 --> 01:16:05.260
 That doesn't mean that we can't change it.

01:16:05.260 --> 01:16:11.940
 I have really looked at how much it costs and which poured-in-place they are all created

01:16:11.940 --> 01:16:12.940
 equal.

01:16:12.940 --> 01:16:16.580
 I looked at their heat retention, I looked at how hot they're really getting, I looked

01:16:16.580 --> 01:16:21.800
 at their costs, and I looked at which company is lasting the longest all over North Texas

01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:25.460
 depending on what city and how much use they're getting.

01:16:25.460 --> 01:16:27.660
 School districts really go with that poured-in-place.

01:16:27.660 --> 01:16:31.020
 They have different funding.

01:16:31.020 --> 01:16:35.300
 Of course, their traffic is all at once and then they're off, and then all at once and

01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:38.100
 they're off where ours is more sporadic.

01:16:38.100 --> 01:16:43.300
 I'm going to continue to look at it and continue to hopefully get it in one of our parks.

01:16:43.300 --> 01:16:45.660
 It just has to do with cost.

01:16:45.660 --> 01:16:50.860
 For the amount of play features that you really want to get on that playground, you'll have

01:16:50.860 --> 01:16:55.300
 to sacrifice play features for surfacing.

01:16:55.300 --> 01:16:56.300
 Sure.

01:16:56.300 --> 01:17:00.820
 George, did you have a question?

01:17:00.820 --> 01:17:02.220
 Yes, ma'am.

01:17:02.220 --> 01:17:03.460
 Thank you.

01:17:03.460 --> 01:17:10.540
 I guess I just wanted to also uplift and bring to the attention if we do a lot of surveys

01:17:10.540 --> 01:17:15.320
 and ask a lot of communities and groups for their inputs, if we're specifically asking

01:17:15.320 --> 01:17:20.140
 citizens with disabilities or citizens with children or family members with disabilities

01:17:20.140 --> 01:17:22.820
 about features they'd like to see in parks.

01:17:22.820 --> 01:17:28.480
 I know Valvera at the Disability Inclusion Society would be a good person to reach out

01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:32.460
 to in the community who does a lot of work.

01:17:32.460 --> 01:17:42.340
 I know that we had a meeting in the before time about a center, an inclusive center.

01:17:42.340 --> 01:17:48.020
 I don't remember the names of those folks, and I know you will remember Gary, Laura,

01:17:48.020 --> 01:17:49.020
 et cetera.

01:17:49.020 --> 01:17:53.420
 But reaching out and just seeing what else could be put into this five-year plan, because

01:17:53.420 --> 01:17:58.300
 as Gary said, it is very aggressive, and I think it's great to put the stars, go for

01:17:58.300 --> 01:17:59.300
 whatever we can.

01:17:59.300 --> 01:18:05.340
 And I think including this would be at the top of my list to make sure that we're really

01:18:05.340 --> 01:18:09.140
 hitting those marks and trying to reach those as well.

01:18:09.140 --> 01:18:10.380
 That's all I wanted to uplift.

01:18:10.380 --> 01:18:11.380
 Yes.

01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:20.540
 George, we did have a meeting with accessibility individuals in regards to whether it's physically

01:18:20.540 --> 01:18:25.240
 impaired, mentally impaired, in regards to what we could do for our park system.

01:18:25.240 --> 01:18:26.240
 That was pre-COVID.

01:18:26.240 --> 01:18:28.740
 It seems like it was so long ago.

01:18:28.740 --> 01:18:30.580
 And we did talk about an inclusive playground.

01:18:30.580 --> 01:18:34.220
 At one point in time, we were thinking about Southwest Park.

01:18:34.220 --> 01:18:41.860
 The feedback that we got was it's not on a bus stop, and it is kind of far away.

01:18:41.860 --> 01:18:45.620
 That doesn't mean we wouldn't put one there.

01:18:45.620 --> 01:18:47.060
 It wouldn't be our primary one.

01:18:47.060 --> 01:18:51.660
 So maybe we kind of thought maybe we have a north and a south one as South Denton starts

01:18:51.660 --> 01:18:54.840
 to grow, those residents could go there.

01:18:54.840 --> 01:19:01.020
 So we kind of penciled in North Lakes as when we go to replace that play structure up there,

01:19:01.020 --> 01:19:06.260
 there's a lot of pine trees in that area that that first inclusive structure would go in

01:19:06.260 --> 01:19:08.620
 that location.

01:19:08.620 --> 01:19:12.060
 So and that was based off the feedback from that group.

01:19:12.060 --> 01:19:15.420
 We still have a lot of work to do, and we need to circle around with that group because

01:19:15.420 --> 01:19:21.380
 we were going to put together a focus group from that larger group that attended that

01:19:21.380 --> 01:19:26.180
 meeting, and we never got to it and then COVID hit and it just everything got derailed.

01:19:26.180 --> 01:19:28.540
 So that is something that we want to restart.

01:19:28.540 --> 01:19:35.600
 And then in this five year plan is an ADA transition plan that based off of some quotes

01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:41.580
 we got, it's we broke it into three phases at $75,000 a year where they would go in and

01:19:41.580 --> 01:19:46.580
 evaluate all of our parks, all of our trails, all of our buildings to make sure that they're

01:19:46.580 --> 01:19:51.980
 ADA accessible and if they're not, what do we need to do to get them into an improvement

01:19:51.980 --> 01:19:52.980
 plan?

01:19:52.980 --> 01:19:58.100
 So that is something that is on our horizon as well.

01:19:58.100 --> 01:20:00.460
 All right.

01:20:00.460 --> 01:20:01.460
 Thank you so much.

01:20:01.460 --> 01:20:08.140
 I just want to commend you guys on all the hard work you are putting into the upgrades

01:20:08.140 --> 01:20:11.260
 of the equipment.

01:20:11.260 --> 01:20:15.780
 The next item, if there are no additional questions or concerns.

01:20:15.780 --> 01:20:20.500
 The next item is to receive a report, hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding

01:20:20.500 --> 01:20:23.980
 the proposed amendments to the naming policy guidelines.

01:20:23.980 --> 01:20:24.980
 Okay.

01:20:24.980 --> 01:20:46.500
 Give me one second and let me hold that up.

01:20:46.500 --> 01:20:48.540
 I know Heather had worked on this a lot.

01:20:48.540 --> 01:20:52.060
 I think Eddie put this specific amendment together.

01:20:52.060 --> 01:20:56.300
 I think Eddie was going to present it and then Heather's there for backup and I'll operate

01:20:56.300 --> 01:20:57.300
 the slides.

01:20:57.300 --> 01:21:03.700
 My name is Eddie Valdez, management analyst for the Parks and Recreation Department and

01:21:03.700 --> 01:21:04.700
 good afternoon.

01:21:04.700 --> 01:21:09.300
 So I will be covering the temporary naming procedures.

01:21:09.300 --> 01:21:14.740
 And so a quick background and history about the temporary naming is throughout the past

01:21:14.740 --> 01:21:20.540
 year the park staff has been working on revising the current naming policy, including gathering

01:21:20.540 --> 01:21:25.500
 feedback from the Parks and Recreation Board and city council.

01:21:25.500 --> 01:21:30.580
 After many revisions, city council approved the resolution to amend the naming policy

01:21:30.580 --> 01:21:33.460
 on January 7th of this year.

01:21:33.460 --> 01:21:39.260
 The new naming policy will define the naming rights, also clarifies naming rights for a

01:21:39.260 --> 01:21:46.680
 defined period of time and also specifies once a naming right term has ended and facility

01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:48.020
 may be renamed.

01:21:48.020 --> 01:21:54.020
 However, the new naming policy does not address when internal staff use temporary names during

01:21:54.020 --> 01:21:58.060
 the acquisition or development phase to identify building facilities or land.

01:21:58.060 --> 01:22:00.940
 Can you go to the previous slide, please?

01:22:00.940 --> 01:22:01.940
 Thank you.

01:22:01.940 --> 01:22:03.340
 Almost there.

01:22:03.340 --> 01:22:09.500
 So on February 21 of this year, park board chair Francis Punch requested a discussion

01:22:09.500 --> 01:22:14.220
 regarding the use of temporary naming for internal use for staff.

01:22:14.220 --> 01:22:19.260
 Staff brought the discussion of the temporary naming procedures in the March 2nd Parks Recreation

01:22:19.260 --> 01:22:21.580
 and Beautification Board meeting.

01:22:21.580 --> 01:22:25.740
 We ended the discussion with staff coming back with a draft template to address temporary

01:22:25.740 --> 01:22:31.220
 naming and staff has addressed this issue with a temporary naming procedures that will

01:22:31.220 --> 01:22:36.940
 be incorporated into the naming policy for city buildings, facilities and land.

01:22:36.940 --> 01:22:41.060
 So if you look at exhibit three, you'll see an attachment and that's the proposed draft

01:22:41.060 --> 01:22:47.320
 amendments to the naming policy that addresses this issue.

01:22:47.320 --> 01:22:51.700
 So here's a quick summary of the amendments, the naming policy.

01:22:51.700 --> 01:22:57.340
 If you look at, I don't know if we can, well, we already have, but if you have it pulled

01:22:57.340 --> 01:23:04.060
 up, you'll see everything, all the changes in highlighted in yellow.

01:23:04.060 --> 01:23:11.140
 And what we did is we defined, in section two we defined a definition that defines temporary

01:23:11.140 --> 01:23:19.060
 naming and then we also included a certain section dedicated for temporary naming procedures

01:23:19.060 --> 01:23:21.780
 and that's going to be section six.

01:23:21.780 --> 01:23:25.020
 Now we'll talk about section six real quick.

01:23:25.020 --> 01:23:30.140
 So the first part to this is staff will use a geographic location such as the street name,

01:23:30.140 --> 01:23:36.860
 frontage road or major intersection and then staff will use an identifier such as a property

01:23:36.860 --> 01:23:39.060
 or building after the geographic location.

01:23:39.060 --> 01:23:44.260
 So for example, you know, if we were to name Main Street, we would say Main Street property

01:23:44.260 --> 01:23:48.700
 or Main Street building, you know, as a temporary name.

01:23:48.700 --> 01:23:53.900
 And one last thing to add is that staff is encouraging citizens and the public groups

01:23:53.900 --> 01:23:58.380
 or organizations to submit nominations for naming so that this temporary naming that will

01:23:58.380 --> 01:24:04.180
 be seized essentially, you know, so it's not going to just carry on over.

01:24:04.180 --> 01:24:09.500
 So next steps, if you, you know, Park Board members were to approve the amendments to

01:24:09.500 --> 01:24:15.260
 the naming policy, we will proceed with our internal process and try to get this to city

01:24:15.260 --> 01:24:20.580
 council for their approval.

01:24:20.580 --> 01:24:21.580
 Thank you, Eddie.

01:24:21.580 --> 01:24:27.140
 Thank you so much for working so hard and the staff are working so hard on this amendment.

01:24:27.140 --> 01:24:32.980
 Do you, are there any questions, concerns, comments?

01:24:32.980 --> 01:24:38.820
 A full disclosure, Francis, we were going to be ready to bring this back in April.

01:24:38.820 --> 01:24:41.580
 So we had a couple extra months to get it done.

01:24:41.580 --> 01:24:45.660
 So I just wanted to let you know.

01:24:45.660 --> 01:24:46.660
 Thank you.

01:24:46.660 --> 01:24:47.660
 Thank you so much.

01:24:47.660 --> 01:24:48.660
 David.

01:24:48.660 --> 01:24:50.900
 Yeah, this question is actually for you, Francis.

01:24:50.900 --> 01:24:55.860
 I know that this was a concern that you brought and I just wondered if this kind of filled

01:24:55.860 --> 01:25:01.700
 your concern and met what you're, you know, met what you were worried about.

01:25:01.700 --> 01:25:02.700
 Absolutely.

01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:10.300
 They have been, we've been in discussion and they have listened to my concerns thoroughly

01:25:10.300 --> 01:25:13.580
 and I think they are being applied appropriately.

01:25:13.580 --> 01:25:14.700
 Thank you.

01:25:14.700 --> 01:25:19.300
 If you look at the five year CIP plan, we do have some parcels on there that we're working

01:25:19.300 --> 01:25:23.380
 with from the development community and we've tried to utilize that.

01:25:23.380 --> 01:25:29.060
 So you'll see, you know, X property listed on there.

01:25:29.060 --> 01:25:35.780
 So we're trying to implement that and get that into a habit ahead of time.

01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:36.780
 Okay.

01:25:36.780 --> 01:25:44.140
 If there are no concerns or questions, I need a motion to approve the new amendment, the

01:25:44.140 --> 01:25:45.140
 proposed amendment.

01:25:45.140 --> 01:25:47.380
 Was that you, George?

01:25:47.380 --> 01:25:48.660
 Yes, some move.

01:25:48.660 --> 01:25:53.140
 That was my only request was that you were, that all the things you wanted to get clarified

01:25:53.140 --> 01:25:55.580
 were clarified and changed.

01:25:55.580 --> 01:25:57.540
 I'll second.

01:25:57.540 --> 01:25:58.540
 Okay.

01:25:58.540 --> 01:26:02.340
 Did you get that, Eddie?

01:26:02.340 --> 01:26:05.580
 I second.

01:26:05.580 --> 01:26:11.940
 Eddie, you're on mute.

01:26:11.940 --> 01:26:12.940
 Can't hear you, Eddie.

01:26:12.940 --> 01:26:13.940
 You cannot hear me?

01:26:13.940 --> 01:26:14.940
 Now we can.

01:26:14.940 --> 01:26:15.940
 All right.

01:26:15.940 --> 01:26:16.940
 Yep.

01:26:16.940 --> 01:26:17.940
 I got that.

01:26:17.940 --> 01:26:18.940
 Okay.

01:26:18.940 --> 01:26:20.340
 Thank you.

01:26:20.340 --> 01:26:25.300
 Next item, receive an informal report regarding Denton Parks foundation updates.

01:26:25.300 --> 01:26:26.300
 You're on, Brooke.

01:26:26.300 --> 01:26:27.300
 All right.

01:26:27.300 --> 01:26:28.300
 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:26:28.300 --> 01:26:29.300
 Nope.

01:26:29.300 --> 01:26:30.300
 I don't think we actually took...

01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:31.300
 I'm out of practice, Dave.

01:26:31.300 --> 01:26:32.300
 I'm out of practice.

01:26:32.300 --> 01:26:33.300
 Thank you.

01:26:33.300 --> 01:26:37.300
 Thank you for keeping me honest.

01:26:37.300 --> 01:26:38.300
 All right.

01:26:38.300 --> 01:26:39.300
 All in favor?

01:26:39.300 --> 01:26:40.300
 Raise your hand.

01:26:40.300 --> 01:26:43.820
 I need a physical hand.

01:26:43.820 --> 01:26:44.820
 Anyone opposed?

01:26:44.820 --> 01:26:45.820
 All right.

01:26:45.820 --> 01:26:50.380
 Wait, Denona Lee, are you voting?

01:26:50.380 --> 01:26:53.340
 I'm in favor.

01:26:53.340 --> 01:26:54.340
 Okay.

01:26:54.340 --> 01:26:55.340
 Thank you so much.

01:26:55.340 --> 01:26:58.900
 Eddie, did you get all of that?

01:26:58.900 --> 01:26:59.900
 Okay.

01:26:59.900 --> 01:27:03.340
 And thank you, David.

01:27:03.340 --> 01:27:07.700
 All right.

01:27:07.700 --> 01:27:09.500
 Next item, Brooke, are you ready?

01:27:09.500 --> 01:27:10.500
 Yes, ma'am.

01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:18.940
 So, just like the rest of Deepard, we have been on the pivot dance of trying to react

01:27:18.940 --> 01:27:27.980
 appropriately to our community's needs, originally with COVID, and doing our bunny delivery service

01:27:27.980 --> 01:27:35.820
 instead of a big party that everybody came to, to civil unrest, and acknowledging our

01:27:35.820 --> 01:27:40.080
 anti-racist policies and efforts that we're moving forward.

01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:46.820
 And then trying to maintain fundraising and supporting people when it's a difficult time

01:27:46.820 --> 01:27:48.540
 to ask for money.

01:27:48.540 --> 01:27:54.980
 But we're really trying to take this time to take a step back in evaluating our processes

01:27:54.980 --> 01:28:02.700
 as a nonprofit organization, evaluating them with all of our, instead of just smart goals,

01:28:02.700 --> 01:28:07.620
 smart e-goals, and making sure we're inclusive and equitable in the decisions that we make

01:28:07.620 --> 01:28:14.860
 on that includes evaluating our board recruitment efforts, evaluating how we disperse our scholarships

01:28:14.860 --> 01:28:20.220
 and funding towards the city, and making sure that we're collecting information so we truly

01:28:20.220 --> 01:28:25.940
 know who we're serving, so we can make sure that we are serving our community as a whole.

01:28:25.940 --> 01:28:30.380
 Of course, we're still working on the dog park, just added the first shade structure

01:28:30.380 --> 01:28:36.540
 there, and we're taking efforts, thanks to Drew, of reaching out to Toy Yoda, have been

01:28:36.540 --> 01:28:37.540
 reaching out to the guy.

01:28:37.540 --> 01:28:43.100
 I'm this close to just showing up to Toy Yoda, just being like, "Hey, how are you?"

01:28:43.100 --> 01:28:46.780
 With masks on and everything, see if we can't negotiate something without me leaving with

01:28:46.780 --> 01:28:49.580
 a car.

01:28:49.580 --> 01:28:55.300
 And so that's really our main focus is the dog park, and then of course scholarships.

01:28:55.300 --> 01:29:01.540
 And right now we're really trying to evaluate how do we, I can't fundraise for scholarships

01:29:01.540 --> 01:29:06.700
 when nobody's getting them, how do we make sure that we have that funding readily available

01:29:06.700 --> 01:29:11.240
 when the time comes when we really need it, or do we utilize that funding to currently

01:29:11.240 --> 01:29:17.660
 meet the needs of people who maybe want those camp packs, but they can't afford the cost

01:29:17.660 --> 01:29:23.140
 of it, and really reaching out to those areas that we know are most in need in providing

01:29:23.140 --> 01:29:25.500
 those camp packs to them.

01:29:25.500 --> 01:29:33.140
 Or a possibility of working with some mobile rec centers, so talking with Carolyn and Deena

01:29:33.140 --> 01:29:38.460
 about that right now, making sure that we're serving that community in a safe way.

01:29:38.460 --> 01:29:44.380
 And then Denton Women's Interracial Fellowship, we are jumping on with them as their fiscal

01:29:44.380 --> 01:29:52.300
 partner, financial partner, and helping in fundraising for what could ultimately be a

01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:57.060
 great art piece to memorialize the effort of these women, and it would be placed in

01:29:57.060 --> 01:30:01.940
 a park facility or location.

01:30:01.940 --> 01:30:08.060
 So that's one of the areas that we're also looking to fundraise for moving forward.

01:30:08.060 --> 01:30:14.340
 And then, of course, just kind of keeping our focus on our advocacy volunteers' investment

01:30:14.340 --> 01:30:19.940
 and just keeping those in the front and forward, making sure that as we're evaluating our calendar

01:30:19.940 --> 01:30:27.060
 for 2020, 2021, that we're staying in line with those areas and what's most in need.

01:30:27.060 --> 01:30:32.100
 I don't suspect, no, I know we're not going to have Splish Splash Doggy Bash.

01:30:32.100 --> 01:30:36.940
 I suspect we'll have other things that will certainly change in this fall, but our fundraising

01:30:36.940 --> 01:30:38.220
 efforts will still be there.

01:30:38.220 --> 01:30:44.740
 So right now, I'm just trying to get creative to see how we can provide that fundraising

01:30:44.740 --> 01:30:47.860
 for our community moving forward.

01:30:47.860 --> 01:30:53.900
 And then lastly, there was a lot to talk about why aren't parks offering hand sanitizer in

01:30:53.900 --> 01:30:56.700
 parks, because it's in need.

01:30:56.700 --> 01:31:00.420
 I talked with Gary and talked to several people.

01:31:00.420 --> 01:31:05.780
 Yes, it is in need clearly, and not everybody can afford it.

01:31:05.780 --> 01:31:11.500
 And it really came down to our board and stakeholders of saying that's what we're not in the business

01:31:11.500 --> 01:31:13.300
 of doing.

01:31:13.300 --> 01:31:18.500
 However, we are in the business of doing good, and so we certainly can meet the needs of

01:31:18.500 --> 01:31:23.180
 people who cannot afford that and may be providing park packs.

01:31:23.180 --> 01:31:29.760
 So similarly, our family, Redheads, we always take sunscreen with us.

01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:33.460
 I don't have a sunscreen station at the park, and I never expect them to have it at the

01:31:33.460 --> 01:31:34.460
 park.

01:31:34.460 --> 01:31:37.260
 And it's just something I always have to have.

01:31:37.260 --> 01:31:43.820
 So a thought that we had was developing park packs that we can give out to individuals

01:31:43.820 --> 01:31:46.580
 who can sign up for it for free.

01:31:46.580 --> 01:31:50.820
 It's also a great opportunity to get people who maybe want to make a donation for one

01:31:50.820 --> 01:31:56.280
 or want to buy these park packs for a number of individuals who need it, but essentially

01:31:56.280 --> 01:32:01.060
 offering them a mask, a water bottle, all the things that we know is going to keep somebody

01:32:01.060 --> 01:32:04.140
 safe when they go to a playground.

01:32:04.140 --> 01:32:07.380
 And just providing it for somebody who otherwise wouldn't have it.

01:32:07.380 --> 01:32:10.380
 And that's honestly where we are right now.

01:32:10.380 --> 01:32:14.820
 It's a lot of great ideas and just trying to get with the board to make sure that it's

01:32:14.820 --> 01:32:20.100
 not a one-person show and managing expectations.

01:32:20.100 --> 01:32:25.920
 Just to add what Brooke had said, and I could have mentioned it in the COVID report, too,

01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:31.620
 there was a lot of discussion on what we should be doing or what we shouldn't be doing in

01:32:31.620 --> 01:32:35.860
 regards to providing safety.

01:32:35.860 --> 01:32:45.780
 It was a balance of budget, but not the primary reason, availability of products, the staff

01:32:45.780 --> 01:32:55.060
 that would be available to constantly monitor the inventory and replace empty containers

01:32:55.060 --> 01:32:57.740
 of hand sanitizer.

01:32:57.740 --> 01:33:00.380
 Actually getting the product was another issue.

01:33:00.380 --> 01:33:05.980
 Theft of the product, since it was kind of at high demand at that period of time, too,

01:33:05.980 --> 01:33:11.540
 was all things that we looked at, and we decided that it would be easier based on the staffing

01:33:11.540 --> 01:33:14.460
 that we have and the budget that we're dealing with.

01:33:14.460 --> 01:33:20.180
 We were cutting budget, cutting staff, product was hard to find, that we would take the avenue

01:33:20.180 --> 01:33:27.180
 of take the responsibility, bring your own with you, and take that.

01:33:27.180 --> 01:33:33.100
 So that way, if it wasn't there or it was stolen, then we wouldn't be in a position

01:33:33.100 --> 01:33:36.100
 of not providing it when we said we weren't.

01:33:36.100 --> 01:33:40.060
 So that's been the direction that we've been taking.

01:33:40.060 --> 01:33:47.420
 It may change down the road, but that's what we've been sticking to, and it seemed to work

01:33:47.420 --> 01:33:48.420
 out.

01:33:48.420 --> 01:33:53.180
 Ultimately, and I think Brooke and I talked about it, and suntan lotion, was that a good

01:33:53.180 --> 01:33:56.540
 example, is when you know you're going to be out for an hour or two, you know you need

01:33:56.540 --> 01:34:03.700
 to get the sunblock on, and hopefully people start treating hand sanitizer in the same

01:34:03.700 --> 01:34:04.700
 fashion.

01:34:04.700 --> 01:34:11.020
 I'd like to just say I think that's a really smart decision you guys made.

01:34:11.020 --> 01:34:15.860
 Not every need is meant to be filled by the parks board, right?

01:34:15.860 --> 01:34:21.340
 So not denying that it's a need, but I can tell you even in the gym that I spend a lot

01:34:21.340 --> 01:34:27.140
 of time in, that's fully staffed, we can't even keep hand sanitizer available there in

01:34:27.140 --> 01:34:28.380
 such a controlled environment.

01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:32.900
 I can't even imagine across all of the parks in the city what that would entail, and your

01:34:32.900 --> 01:34:38.980
 point about it being removed without authority is valid, you know, especially when you don't

01:34:38.980 --> 01:34:39.980
 have people on site.

01:34:39.980 --> 01:34:43.980
 Yeah, the same thing was with the playgrounds too, are we going to go around and sanitize

01:34:43.980 --> 01:34:44.980
 the playgrounds?

01:34:44.980 --> 01:34:47.980
 You know, it's impossible to keep up with that.

01:34:47.980 --> 01:34:52.260
 You know, we could, it would take us, I think Drew said, two people, three days, three or

01:34:52.260 --> 01:34:56.580
 four days to go through the park system, and we have 28 playgrounds.

01:34:56.580 --> 01:35:01.340
 They could be contaminated, you know, an hour after they were cleaned, so we didn't want

01:35:01.340 --> 01:35:07.500
 to give anybody a false pretense that everything was safe, that when you go to use your parks,

01:35:07.500 --> 01:35:12.980
 you have to take that responsibility and understand that there's a risk, you know, we try to minimize

01:35:12.980 --> 01:35:18.540
 that risk as much as possible, but we can't make it 100% safe at all times.

01:35:18.540 --> 01:35:19.540
 Well done.

01:35:19.540 --> 01:35:27.660
 I have a question about sanitizing, doesn't, like the UV from the sun, do you all have

01:35:27.660 --> 01:35:33.300
 like the data on how that sanitizes the equipment because I imagine it does, at least I tell

01:35:33.300 --> 01:35:34.300
 myself.

01:35:34.300 --> 01:35:39.940
 Yeah, so there was a lot of discussion about that before the summer, you know, that UV

01:35:39.940 --> 01:35:44.960
 and then the heat was going to kill it, but you know, it looks like the south was, is

01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:47.820
 all spiking, you know, when it's the hottest.

01:35:47.820 --> 01:35:51.980
 So I guess I'm not sure what the true answer that is.

01:35:51.980 --> 01:35:56.200
 Obviously, there are some areas on playgrounds that aren't in the sun, you know, whether

01:35:56.200 --> 01:35:59.700
 it's inside a tube or under a shade structure that may not get that UV too.

01:35:59.700 --> 01:36:06.180
 So you know, it just, you know, take the precautions with yourself and your family as best you

01:36:06.180 --> 01:36:07.180
 can.

01:36:07.180 --> 01:36:14.420
 If it's a concern, maybe it's not the best time to be out there, but ultimately leaving

01:36:14.420 --> 01:36:22.740
 the decision to the users and trying to communicate our kind of policies and where we're at, at

01:36:22.740 --> 01:36:23.740
 the time.

01:36:23.740 --> 01:36:29.460
 I just have one more thing to add, we've been really enjoying all of the painted rocks at

01:36:29.460 --> 01:36:30.940
 North Lakes Park.

01:36:30.940 --> 01:36:34.580
 They're really, really great.

01:36:34.580 --> 01:36:35.580
 They're fun.

01:36:35.580 --> 01:36:40.060
 We've started making our own now and taking them out to the park.

01:36:40.060 --> 01:36:41.500
 Yeah.

01:36:41.500 --> 01:36:44.540
 For any additional information.

01:36:44.540 --> 01:36:45.540
 No, ma'am.

01:36:45.540 --> 01:36:50.940
 The only other thing I was going to say an idea that was thrown out was, you know, there's

01:36:50.940 --> 01:36:53.820
 little mini libraries throughout communities.

01:36:53.820 --> 01:36:57.900
 The other idea was little mini park spots.

01:36:57.900 --> 01:37:04.660
 So if you had a house that was by a park and you wanted to provide sunscreen, wipes, you

01:37:04.660 --> 01:37:09.100
 know, all the different things that people could use at a park, that could be another

01:37:09.100 --> 01:37:14.420
 grassroots effort of neighbors helping neighbors.

01:37:14.420 --> 01:37:17.380
 But not really knowing kind of how long this will last.

01:37:17.380 --> 01:37:22.420
 I think the little park packs are a better option.

01:37:22.420 --> 01:37:24.460
 That's all I got for you.

01:37:24.460 --> 01:37:25.460
 Okay.

01:37:25.460 --> 01:37:26.460
 Thank you so much.

01:37:26.460 --> 01:37:27.460
 Thank you.

01:37:27.460 --> 01:37:34.220
 The last item at our last meeting, we had three things that we wanted information and

01:37:34.220 --> 01:37:35.820
 we have received one.

01:37:35.820 --> 01:37:40.180
 The first one was a temporary naming policy that has been completed.

01:37:40.180 --> 01:37:45.860
 And then I think it was Atlanta that wanted the aquatic update and I think it was David

01:37:45.860 --> 01:37:51.060
 that wanted the proposed free park property list.

01:37:51.060 --> 01:37:58.380
 And I just wanted to remind the staff of those requests and if we can work those into the

01:37:58.380 --> 01:38:03.420
 upcoming meetings and if there was anything we needed to add to the list.

01:38:03.420 --> 01:38:04.780
 Yes, David.

01:38:04.780 --> 01:38:11.460
 Yeah, I actually had emailed Gary about this a couple of months ago and it was just a it's

01:38:11.460 --> 01:38:17.980
 a probably a touchy and sensitive subject that that talks that that touches other departments

01:38:17.980 --> 01:38:19.320
 within the city.

01:38:19.320 --> 01:38:21.380
 But it certainly touches within the parks.

01:38:21.380 --> 01:38:26.780
 So you know, we went out to use the frisbee golf course at North Lakes and I hadn't walked

01:38:26.780 --> 01:38:29.800
 that thing in a long time.

01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:34.820
 And as we got around to the backside of the dam, there's there's a hole that's you know,

01:38:34.820 --> 01:38:38.620
 the trees are cut back, it's cut back into the trees and the hole actually sits inside

01:38:38.620 --> 01:38:42.020
 the trees, which is kind of a cool little place.

01:38:42.020 --> 01:38:45.740
 But when you get back in there, you're right in the middle of somebody's kitchen and living

01:38:45.740 --> 01:38:47.300
 room.

01:38:47.300 --> 01:38:53.700
 And I felt like I was walking into somebody's house and almost didn't want to get our frisbee.

01:38:53.700 --> 01:39:03.700
 And we were with, you know, a couple of girls who didn't feel safe at all in that environment.

01:39:03.700 --> 01:39:11.080
 And so, you know, I certainly am not trying to demonize anybody who has has had to make

01:39:11.080 --> 01:39:14.460
 that choice to, you know, to live.

01:39:14.460 --> 01:39:19.860
 But we need to figure out some kind of a balance that makes our parks safe.

01:39:19.860 --> 01:39:24.420
 And and, you know, hopefully can work with the city to address that problem at the same

01:39:24.420 --> 01:39:25.420
 time.

01:39:25.420 --> 01:39:30.900
 But but it was, it definitely caught me off guard and you know, I'm not too bothered by

01:39:30.900 --> 01:39:35.100
 too many situations, but I certainly felt uncomfortable and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone

01:39:35.100 --> 01:39:36.100
 in that.

01:39:36.100 --> 01:39:38.100
 So something to consider.

01:39:38.100 --> 01:39:44.220
 Are you wanting an update on that to be added to the list to the did you say the frisbee

01:39:44.220 --> 01:39:45.220
 park?

01:39:45.220 --> 01:39:49.540
 Yeah, it's the frisbee golf course and it's on the backside of the dam.

01:39:49.540 --> 01:39:53.060
 I don't remember the specific hole, but I'm sure that these guys could tell you where

01:39:53.060 --> 01:39:54.900
 I'm talking about.

01:39:54.900 --> 01:39:58.140
 And I knew I know Gary was aware of it and you know, and his response at the time was

01:39:58.140 --> 01:40:04.660
 appropriate that, you know, when when stuff hit things, priorities shifted a little bit

01:40:04.660 --> 01:40:05.660
 on that.

01:40:05.660 --> 01:40:11.660
 And so but but I think it's something for us to keep on the radar.

01:40:11.660 --> 01:40:17.820
 Because I mean, I would never want my my kids being in an environment where I felt like

01:40:17.820 --> 01:40:21.180
 their safety was in question, you know.

01:40:21.180 --> 01:40:24.780
 So so David, I can shine a light on that.

01:40:24.780 --> 01:40:30.840
 So we did have some areas that being one of them that we went through the complete process

01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:35.980
 of sending the outreach program or outreach individuals out to those areas, giving the

01:40:35.980 --> 01:40:40.600
 provided necessities and care that needed to be given to those individuals and giving

01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:45.580
 them the option to be able to, you know, to get to reach those facilities or, you know,

01:40:45.580 --> 01:40:47.300
 services that they needed.

01:40:47.300 --> 01:40:52.020
 We went in completely cleared that area up, posted signage to make sure they knew that

01:40:52.020 --> 01:40:54.940
 there's no camping allowed in the parks.

01:40:54.940 --> 01:40:59.940
 And due to things that kind of happened during that time, I know that you saw them during,

01:40:59.940 --> 01:41:05.740
 you know, when COVID first started happening, we brought up that issue with the police and

01:41:05.740 --> 01:41:10.500
 with our outreach services, they've gone back out, the police are supposed to be removing

01:41:10.500 --> 01:41:14.480
 them, making sure that they're removed very shortly, we'll go back and clean.

01:41:14.480 --> 01:41:21.940
 And then they have the authorization to issue citations and or trespassing, you know, trespassing

01:41:21.940 --> 01:41:23.700
 to them as they continue to camp there.

01:41:23.700 --> 01:41:31.740
 I would just say if it's not feasible to to keep that as a under under a little bit better

01:41:31.740 --> 01:41:37.800
 control from a safety standpoint, I would almost recommend just rerouting that course

01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:43.780
 off of that because it's a it's a it's a weird clash of your I mean, when I say in somebody's

01:41:43.780 --> 01:41:47.980
 living room, I mean, it was it was very, very well established, they had a netty box in there

01:41:47.980 --> 01:41:52.060
 and all their all their camp stuff was on shelves. And I mean, it was not just

01:41:52.060 --> 01:41:59.580
 Oh, no, I understand we, we see it and we were actually work with the disc golf, the

01:41:59.580 --> 01:42:04.380
 two disc golf groups, and they redesigned the course and that's where they wanted it.

01:42:04.380 --> 01:42:09.900
 And then, you know, under different circumstances, someone moved into that I think it's hole seven

01:42:09.900 --> 01:42:15.340
 into that area. So they've they've contacted us and let us let us know about the same time

01:42:15.340 --> 01:42:20.700
 you did that someone had moved in completely moved in where, you know, typically they were

01:42:20.700 --> 01:42:24.380
 a little further back in the woods and weren't near one of the holes. So they didn't really

01:42:24.380 --> 01:42:30.340
 cause any issues for disc golf players. But we are in in process of dealing with it at

01:42:30.340 --> 01:42:31.340
 the moment.

01:42:31.340 --> 01:42:34.980
 Okay. And I don't know if it's worth putting on a future agenda. I just wanted to bring

01:42:34.980 --> 01:42:38.940
 it up to make sure there was awareness for it. And I don't, I certainly don't have a

01:42:38.940 --> 01:42:41.340
 proposed solution. That's a complex problem. But

01:42:41.340 --> 01:42:50.740
 Just just to add real quick, we have, I guess, 15 minutes, but so the interactions with with

01:42:50.740 --> 01:42:58.540
 people experiencing homelessness is growing, we do have more of it in the park system.

01:42:58.540 --> 01:43:03.860
 And truthfully, our staff are trained to deal with that, you know, we're becoming more and

01:43:03.860 --> 01:43:10.940
 more social workers as well. So Laura has been working with United Way to create some

01:43:10.940 --> 01:43:17.180
 training with with in partnership with United Way, so we can train our staff. So they know

01:43:17.180 --> 01:43:22.660
 what to look for how to handle a situation that they come upon something, and what the

01:43:22.660 --> 01:43:27.500
 right processes internally on how we're going to handle it. So it's something that we need

01:43:27.500 --> 01:43:34.540
 to work on as an organization, we realize that it's not something that's that's temporary.

01:43:34.540 --> 01:43:39.100
 And it's a challenge that we all have to face. So it's something that we're trying to figure

01:43:39.100 --> 01:43:42.580
 out how to move on.

01:43:42.580 --> 01:43:49.820
 Gary, oh, sorry, James. Sorry. Yeah, James.

01:43:49.820 --> 01:44:00.860
 I just real quick to two issues. I had a met with some folks impromptu at at the, the Moor

01:44:00.860 --> 01:44:10.780
 Park, and Fred, Fred Moor Park. And most of them were asking questions on they turned

01:44:10.780 --> 01:44:15.900
 out the building was torn down. So asking me what the timeline of replacement building

01:44:15.900 --> 01:44:20.900
 was, I guess that was their main, their main concern. And I want to share that with you

01:44:20.900 --> 01:44:27.940
 and see if you have an answer for them. And number two is, I did have requests that there

01:44:27.940 --> 01:44:36.380
 they had another. And we had another, we call grill, grill is none of grills there. There's

01:44:36.380 --> 01:44:41.660
 only one grill that usually gets served up pretty quick. So they were asking for another

01:44:41.660 --> 01:44:48.460
 grill. So just a little input. Using the two years and the one mouth that the good Lord

01:44:48.460 --> 01:44:49.460
 gave me.

01:44:49.460 --> 01:45:06.580
 Sorry, ALH is supposed to be completed early 2021, early 2021 that q1 or q2, it's supposed

01:45:06.580 --> 01:45:11.220
 to be, technically, it's supposed to be like February, but they're, they're a little bit

01:45:11.220 --> 01:45:14.380
 behind. So February, March ish.

01:45:14.380 --> 01:45:23.900
 Okay. Thank you. So any feedback on the additional grills?

01:45:23.900 --> 01:45:28.620
 That's something pretty basic. I don't think we can work through his team and

01:45:28.620 --> 01:45:32.180
 Yeah, because we have we have several girls there Fred Warren, then we have that really

01:45:32.180 --> 01:45:38.020
 large smoker. Okay, it's on site also. So we'll look at them. I don't know if any of lately

01:45:38.020 --> 01:45:41.860
 if any have been carried off. But we'll we'll make sure that the ones that are supposed

01:45:41.860 --> 01:45:46.700
 to be there, there, or see if we need to add any more city smoker. Is that actually somebody

01:45:46.700 --> 01:45:51.140
 owns that? No, that this was purchased about four years

01:45:51.140 --> 01:46:00.420
 ago. Okay, placed there for for public use. Wow. That was a community ask. And so it was

01:46:00.420 --> 01:46:05.260
 put there about four or five years ago. Thank you, Drew. Yes. Thank you.

01:46:05.260 --> 01:46:09.940
 Alana, you have a question. I just wanted to say don't worry about the aquatics update

01:46:09.940 --> 01:46:15.740
 because I think we've been updated. It was sad, but you know, flexible fluid, whatever.

01:46:15.740 --> 01:46:22.340
 Okay. I had two things that I would like to be brought up in future meetings. Just, I

01:46:22.340 --> 01:46:30.220
 emailed Gary, and I think Francis about this, but I had an incident where I lost my children

01:46:30.220 --> 01:46:35.380
 at North Lakes Park for like 20 minutes. And it was so scary because there's so much water

01:46:35.380 --> 01:46:41.260
 there. And I didn't know what the protocol was. So I was just wondering if we could maybe

01:46:41.260 --> 01:46:47.420
 it kind of goes with what David's ask is maybe like a safety kind of protocol thing. And

01:46:47.420 --> 01:46:55.860
 there is the one I don't know if there needs to be like, education at the park somewhere

01:46:55.860 --> 01:47:03.260
 like a sign like, if you lose your kid, this is what you can do. I don't know. I don't

01:47:03.260 --> 01:47:07.020
 know the answer. I just something to think about and discuss and something that could

01:47:07.020 --> 01:47:12.460
 possibly make your parks better and maybe potentially keep a kid from drowning. I don't

01:47:12.460 --> 01:47:17.180
 know. Like, I don't know if there's cameras. So that's just an idea. And then I was also

01:47:17.180 --> 01:47:28.980
 I've had a request from sorry. I've had a request from someone in the community for

01:47:28.980 --> 01:47:40.260
 an update on the IPM. So you want that to be added for? Yeah. Yeah, potentially the

01:47:40.260 --> 01:47:46.740
 next meeting. Yes. And I have just on that. I've noticed like some of the mowing has like

01:47:46.740 --> 01:47:50.580
 the grass has been getting longer in some areas. I personally like it. I think it looks

01:47:50.580 --> 01:48:00.940
 good. Just throw that out there. Okay, any any additional items to be added for future

01:48:00.940 --> 01:48:12.460
 meetings? Say hi. Brooke, are you waving your hand? Are you waving at the child? The child.

01:48:12.460 --> 01:48:21.060
 Okay. Okay. Any additional concerns? Comments? All right, I need a motion to adjourn the

01:48:21.060 --> 01:48:27.340
 meeting. I motion but also I just actually I do have one thing. Sorry. Oh, sorry. Sorry.

01:48:27.340 --> 01:48:32.260
 Sorry. I just wanted to say thank you. Sorry. I know that I miss all of you guys. I don't

01:48:32.260 --> 01:48:38.100
 know. I mean, I really do. I miss seeing all your beautiful little faces. And I just wanted

01:48:38.100 --> 01:48:42.180
 to say thanks. I know this has been really hard. I know cutting budgets is very difficult.

01:48:42.180 --> 01:48:48.900
 And trying to keep people's jobs is important and hard and difficult and can be incredibly

01:48:48.900 --> 01:48:53.740
 grueling and emotional. So I just wanted to say thank you guys so much for all your hard

01:48:53.740 --> 01:48:57.260
 work. I know you guys have been strapped and things have been hard and people have been

01:48:57.260 --> 01:49:02.620
 so angry. And I think people are forgetting to give grace right now to themselves and

01:49:02.620 --> 01:49:06.700
 to others in a really difficult time. And we all should just you know, be thankful that

01:49:06.700 --> 01:49:11.340
 we're alive and that we're healthy. So I just wanted to put that out there on the world

01:49:11.340 --> 01:49:14.540
 and say thank you. I appreciate your time and your efforts. And I know you're working

01:49:14.540 --> 01:49:18.860
 your butts off. And with that, I motion to end the meeting. Thank you, Francis.

01:49:18.860 --> 01:49:30.300
 I need a second. Second. Okay. Eddie, you have that? All right. All in favor? Aye. Anyone

01:49:30.300 --> 01:49:41.580
 opposed? Thank you, Danona. The ayes have it. Meeting is adjourned. Time is 221. Amen.