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 Good afternoon, everyone.

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 It is 12 31 and I would like to begin our first virtual parks and recreation board meeting.

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 We have a quorum present and one excused absence.

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 And if I would, do we have any presentations from the public?

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 No, we do not.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you, Rachel.

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 Well, first, let me just say hello to everyone.

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 It's really good to see everybody.

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 It's been a while and I have missed you all.

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 Okay.

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 I know I'm on protocol, but all right.

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 First item is consider approval of the minutes of March 2nd, 2020.

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 Any questions, concerns, comments?

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 I'll move to accept.

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 Motion to accept by Dave Shupp.

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 Second was, who said it first, James or George?

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 I think I did, I'm not sure.

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 Second by James.

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 Okay.

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 The minutes for March 2nd have been approved.

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 Item B, receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding an update

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 on the City of Denton Parks and Recreation Board COVID-19 response.

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 Thank you, Frances, Gary Pack and Director of Parks and Recreation.

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 Obviously, Drew, Laura, Heather and Eddie are on here as well and we don't have a presentation,

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 but just wanted to verbally kind of walk you through our life in the department over the

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 last three or four months with COVID.

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 On or about March 13th is when things really started changing for us.

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 We've tried to keep you up to speed every week with the emails that Eddie sends out

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 and what's going on, but there's been a lot of things going on behind the scenes.

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 Obviously, we closed all of our facilities and playgrounds, ball fields.

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 We shut just about our entire leisure services department down.

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 It's really been the tale of dual personalities between leisure services and parks.

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 The leisure services standpoint, everybody was basically working from home and we had

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 to reinvent our business.

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 So staff was very busy transitioning from in-person activities to virtual activities

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 to eventually lead to a virtual recreation center where we're doing video training online.

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 We're doing bag in the box type of programming, leadership guided programs online.

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 We did a substantial amount of refunds for aquatics and rec centers.

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 That has taken a lot of time.

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 So staff's been very flexible in going through this process.

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 Actually nobody, none of us have dealt with this type of situation before.

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 So things were changing not necessarily every day, but more or less like every couple hours.

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 As well as I'm sure they did in your life and your business.

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 So it was frustrating, it was scary.

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 Everybody was unsure what was going to happen on top of the scare of what are we going to

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 do budget-wise.

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 We reduced by shutting down, we had to adjust our budget by about 2.6, 2.8 million dollars

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 roughly in lost revenue and then we had to make additional cuts.

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 In total we tried to achieve 1.9 million dollars in savings after that six months into the

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 budget to help with the anticipated loss in sales tax for the city.

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 Actually sales tax comes two months later, so we weren't sure how that was going to impact

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 the city long-term with things being shut down.

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 So we're trying to brace for impact and preserve our full-time staff as much as possible.

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 So we gave staff assignments, some of it was the virtual programming, our athletic team

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 went out and painted all of our restrooms, all our concession stands, all our foul poles

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 to help park maintenance.

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 So that was extremely challenging for our leisure services side and I really want to

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 thank them for being so flexible.

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 The other side of the house, park maintenance, this all happened at the busiest time of the

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 year.

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 We typically have contractors that mow the majority of our park system and then we do

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 some of the detail work on the fields and those type areas, but we were short one contractor

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 and we opened up bids, we hired a new contractor, the contractor was on for about a month and

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 then quit.

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 So during this time, we had to go out and mow the grass when we typically are not mowing.

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 In addition to spreading staff from park maintenance out to four or five different locations and

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 try to thin our staff to try to preserve everyone from being sick and reduce the opportunities

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 to get ill.

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 And then it was raining, so that made it worse and so the grass was growing and we're still

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 trying to keep up with it.

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 So we have not rehired that contractor that quit to date.

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 So we're still mowing.

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 We're partnering with the airport and we're helping mow the airport and then their maintenance

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 staff are coming out and helping us mow as well.

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 So we've been pretty fluid with constant adjustments throughout this entire timeframe.

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 Trying to figure out how we're going to manage staff potentially getting sick, coming up

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 with new protocols for every facility and how we were going to reopen and how we were

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 going to deal with if someone got sick and then whether we should open or not.

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 We had a lot of consternation in regards to how and when we would reopen.

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 There was no parks and recreation department that we were able to follow that did everything

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 the same.

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 We actually worked with another city and put together a spreadsheet and shared it amongst

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 all the departments in DFW in Texas so we could follow who had playgrounds open, who

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 had restrooms open, who had rec centers open and when they anticipated opening.

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 We were taking the position of being more conservative than most departments.

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 A couple cities in DFW opened their rec center the day the governor opened Texas that quickly.

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 We decided that some of our facilities may not open until calendar year 2021 and they're

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 really unsure at this point in time.

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 So we developed a reopening plan that had North Lakes opening first and we opened up

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 on June 22nd to members only so it's just drop in fitness and then we also opened the

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 driving range in the tennis courts.

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 I think that was June 5th.

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 So those are the facilities that we have open right now.

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 We do serve lunches out of Dina and MLK.

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 That was a partnership with our lunch provider in DISD.

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 Actually we were closed so we had to revamp that entire program in partnership with DISD

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 and they were coming off the process with schools being shut down or serving over 80,000

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 meals a week.

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 So that was a lot of planning and coordination there.

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 Obviously we're not serving that many for the summertime.

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 So we do have that ramped up and it takes place every morning and then on Saturday we

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 actually opened up a cooling station with temperatures being over 100 degrees at the

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 Civic Center.

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 We do have voting taking place tomorrow so they're getting set up today, Tuesday's voting

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 and Wednesday's shutdown or teardown for the voting.

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 So we had to move the cooling station to MLK for Monday and Tuesday.

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 So it's been a constant flux and the need to be flexible for everybody.

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 Most of our staff have been working from home until we started reopening.

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 Our leisure services staff have been coming back and now they're operating the rec center,

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 North Lakes, the breakfast lunches that we serve.

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 We also operated the CCP for most of the summer.

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 We closed it on July 2nd as a hygiene station since MKOC and some of the other nonprofits

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 were closed because they didn't have volunteers.

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 We ramped that up and provide showers and sanitation for people to come in.

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 We also had a laundry trailer there for a number of weeks providing that service.

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 And then Carly, who's our volunteer coordinator, coordinated volunteer efforts across the entire

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 city to help support our daily bread every day, preparing meals from eight to one.

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 And then we also delivered meals at the hotels that the city is helping with some of the

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 homeless, the people experiencing homelessness to stay.

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 And we had staff go over there and deliver meals.

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 We helped with a childcare area at a local church.

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 And then we also did some interpretation for another nonprofit.

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 So staff, when they were at home working, we did offer that for them.

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 So they came in and helped out, and that was not just Parks and Recreation, but most of

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 the departments across the entire city.

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 So that's another effort that we're doing is we really transitioned from Parks and Recreation

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 to social services over the course of the past few months.

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 So that was one adjustment.

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 But while we did that, we were still developing programming virtually and maintaining our

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 There was one report that actually Brooke had shared that park usage in Denton County

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 was up 87%, and we did have a lot of people using our parks.

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 We still had a lot of people complain about things and call if there were some issues

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 too.

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 So we were trying to keep up with that as much as possible.

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 When COVID hit, city management immediately froze all positions that were vacant.

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 So we stopped all hiring.

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 And then we stopped all hiring of our seasonal staff.

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 So that was challenging.

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 And then as part of the anticipation of budget challenges, the city offered a voluntary separation

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 program where people could leave the city and get paid out X number of months voluntarily.

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 So we had, I think 10 people take that from our department.

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 So for example, Drew's department alone between VSP, part-time and vacant positions, he was

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 short 16 people out of 52, I think is what Drew's number is.

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 And that's on top of not having my contractor in dealing with COVID and rain and mowing.

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 So it's been a crazy few months.

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 And again, I can't say it as much as I could say it all day is we've had to be very flexible.

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 So let's see, we had to communicate with staff, obviously staff's concerned, worried.

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 So we had numerous Zoom meetings with staff across the organization trying to update them

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 on what's going on.

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 A lot of cities were furloughing employees.

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 We did not furlough our full or part-time employees.

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 We did not rehire a lot of seasonal positions, obviously, because we weren't open.

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 So that was a challenge.

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 And when we were deciding what we should reopen, it was like a 50/50 split.

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 50% of the community wanted us to reopen and 50% didn't want us to reopen.

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 So it was really no matter what decision we made, it was going to be a challenge for the

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 community.

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 We took a lot of lumps throughout that process of opening tennis courts, playgrounds.

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 But at the end of the day, I think the decisions we made as an organization were probably right

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 on because a lot of departments across DFW are starting to backtrack where they've closed

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 their pools, they're closing rec centers because of cases that are occurring.

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 So I really think we did the right thing.

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 And we had some of the challenges up front.

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 We were conservative, and I think we took the right path.

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 We can always second-guess ourselves on a lot of our decisions, but I think we did the

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 right thing.

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 Obviously the concern for not just the health and wellness of our staff, but our mental

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 health of our staff, people working from home every day, not seeing their customers, not

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 socializing with each other was a concern.

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 So we've done a lot of Zoom meetings across the organization.

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 Our senior center staff, we have one person that's been calling, a couple people, have

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 been calling our senior members and talking to them because they're shuttered and they've

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 been there since March, where they can't see, and Francis, we talked a little bit about

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 it as well, where they can't get out and see their own families.

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 So we've been making phone calls to our senior members and trying to keep them active and

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 come up with bingo and those types of activities to give them an opportunity to socialize.

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 So that's a real quick summary of four months of work.

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 Drew and Laura, Heather, we had to rebuild our entire budget.

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 Heather did a lot of work in the course of a few days where we had to dissect every one

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 of our HPUs, every one of our specific budgets and come up with $1.9 million.

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 Obviously that's a net.

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 We had to cut, we lost $2.8 million in revenue.

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 So you add it to that, it's much more complicated in getting to that 1.9 net in savings.

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 So it was an experience.

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 We went through some reorganization scenarios three or four times from scratch and taking

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 it differently.

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 We looked at cuts from 10% to 25 to 50% across the department, depending on how bad it was

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 going to get.

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 Ultimately, we went to the 10% reduction, which was the $1.9 million.

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 It was quite the experience.

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 I hope none of us have to do it again.

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 I hope eventually we get out of this soon, but we just don't know.

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 Many cases are starting to rise again, and we're starting to look at maybe we push our

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 timelines back.

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 But from day one, we said we're going to open up North Lakes first, MLK would be the second

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 rec center sometime in September, and then we thought we would open up the civic center

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 in October, and then Denia and the senior center in December, January.

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 That's still kind of penciled in.

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 I think the civic center is probably going to be pushed back tentatively, but the senior

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 centers being the last ones that we open just because of the vulnerable population, it just

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 doesn't make sense.

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 Then from an operational standpoint, you know, North Lakes is open, but we're not running

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 at pre-COVID numbers, so it may not make sense from a capacity standpoint and from a budget

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 standpoint to open up all the rec centers.

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 So Denia may be the last rec center to open, and it may not open until after January, depending

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 on how things go.

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 We just don't know.

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 So we penciled in those dates just so we could plan and budget for it and have at least a

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 starting point or a foundation to work from, realizing that we're going to have to take

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 each day, day by day.

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 So that's been a challenge, but if Drew or Laura, Heather want to chime in with anything

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 I may have missed, that would be great.

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 I can't hear you, Laura.

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 It's probably plugged in.

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 Can you hear me now?

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 Just wanted to give you kind of a little glimpse into where we are today in terms of our operations

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 on the leisure service side.

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 As Gary mentioned, North Lakes is open.

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 We've got modified hours.

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 It's being run right now by our full-time staff, full-time and part-time staff.

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 We have a very detailed reopening plan and practices and operations on a daily basis

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 It is only open for members and pass holders right now.

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 We're seeing about 150 people coming in a day on average throughout the day.

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 I've got a question.

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 It sounds like it's available for members only.

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 Is that existing or are we also selling new memberships and are there new memberships

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 somebody that's been sick recently, but they're not required to actually take their temperature

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 We're going to move to the next item, item C, receive a report, hold a discussion and

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 give staff direction regarding the five year capital improvement project plan.

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 All we see Gary is the list, the folder list.

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 Quaker Town playground.

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 Emergency action plan for Lake Forest, hopefully this fall we'll be heading into dredging and

465
00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:13,880
 repairs of the dam at the pond at Lake Forest.

466
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:20,120
 Our athletic field lighting, we're proposing to replace systematically over the next five

467
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:27,560
 or six years and then just kind of on and on over the next five years is a list of projects,

468
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:37,860
 whether it's sculptures, media improvements, maintenance at our cemeteries, trail development.

469
00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:43,220
 So there's a list of projects here that helps us forecast what we're going to be working

470
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:44,220
 on.

471
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:47,680
 It doesn't mean we have money for everything at this point in time and it doesn't mean

472
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,920
 that this is the final project.

473
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,160
 This thing changes on a weekly basis.

474
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,820
 We tweak it here and there.

475
00:35:55,820 --> 00:36:02,760
 As things come and go, we'll make those adjustments as needed and be flexible with that.

476
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040
 But we wanted to share it with you guys so you could look at it.

477
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:12,100
 A number of these things we have pulled from discussions during our master plan process

478
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,720
 and meeting with the community.

479
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:18,340
 Some of these things that have come from staff in regards to, hey, this playground is in

480
00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:22,680
 bad shape, it's on the playground replacement plan that we forecasted.

481
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:29,040
 So we've taken a number of communication aspects from the community and tried to build this

482
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:35,240
 plan and make adjustments as we can, as well as look at where we have some funding.

483
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,600
 We're trying to use our land dedication and development fees as much as possible.

484
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,640
 So that's another consideration.

485
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,520
 So you may say, well, why village is a Carmel over this park?

486
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,760
 It's like, well, there's money sitting in that neighborhood for that park, so that helped

487
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,560
 us make that decision that we're trying to utilize that money and get it into action

488
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,560
 for the community.

489
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:03,940
 So a lot of those things were considered, not just public feedback as well.

490
00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:13,560
 So I'm going to stop sharing and then just open up for conversation.

491
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,560
 Questions, concerns?

492
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,560
 Brooke?

493
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:26,320
 I was just going to say in regards to the master plan, I would imagine that that probably

494
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:32,920
 would look very different now than even people's responses were six months ago.

495
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,060
 So are you guys kind of taking that into consideration as you're moving forward with the master plan

496
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:43,840
 and whoever is conducting it to reevaluate where people stand and what their priorities

497
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680
 are or how do you go about doing that?

498
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,980
 That's a great, great point.

499
00:37:48,980 --> 00:37:51,960
 We're not sure what we look like post COVID.

500
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,640
 We know what we feel like in COVID, but what does parks and recreation look like after

501
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,120
 this is over?

502
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:05,320
 Obviously, a lot of, if you go to try to buy a bike or a canoe right now, good luck because

503
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,360
 they don't exist.

504
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,800
 So a lot of people are doing outdoor activities that they can do in small groups by themselves

505
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,720
 or with families.

506
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:19,240
 So the question of, you know, do we need to build a rec center anytime soon is a very

507
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,680
 good question.

508
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:28,600
 Obviously, we did a needs assessment survey a year ago, last July.

509
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120
 And those questions may be dated at this point in time.

510
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:38,400
 With staff being shorted, with us being short staffed and Glenn left in February and that

511
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,600
 was doing our master plan, we are putting out an RFQ to hire a firm to help us get to

512
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680
 the finish line and finish that.

513
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,980
 That's going to be a discussion that we're going to have.

514
00:38:48,980 --> 00:38:54,800
 The items that are in the five-year plan are mostly outdoor amenities.

515
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,960
 So I think we're fine there.

516
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,840
 The things that aren't on here that we do have kind of in an outline are the big ticket

517
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:09,560
 items, replacement of the senior center, a field house that was talked about a lot, a

518
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,360
 southern rec center.

519
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,520
 So all of those things have to have more discussion.

520
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,620
 Those are bond-related initiatives.

521
00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:24,080
 So the biggest thing you see on here roughly is probably land acquisition and maybe some

522
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,200
 neighborhood park development and then the tennis center, for example.

523
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,600
 Those are the biggest ticket items on here.

524
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:40,440
 But the 25, the $50 million renovations, the renovation or construction for Southwest Park

525
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,320
 is probably $25, $50 million, depending on what goes in it.

526
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,520
 That's not on here.

527
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,120
 So those big ticket items we didn't put on here purposely because there needs to be some

528
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,640
 more discussion about that.

529
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480
 I have a question.

530
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,640
 Did we lose a board member?

531
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,640
 Mr. Emmerich?

532
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,640
 James and George.

533
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,640
 Oh, George is still here.

534
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,640
 Okay.

535
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,640
 Oh, there he is.

536
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,640
 Sorry.

537
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,640
 I have a lot of things going on.

538
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,640
 I apologize.

539
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,640
 I'm not leaving.

540
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,640
 I'm right here.

541
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:25,120
 So our virtual host, did Mr. Emmerich get knocked out?

542
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,680
 And also, I'm sorry, I'm drawing a blank on her name, the other board member that joined

543
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,360
 when he joined.

544
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,080
 Denona, she was just here.

545
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,520
 I think she's off as well.

546
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,500
 She is gone as well.

547
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:47,680
 Well, we still have a quorum, so we can continue.

548
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,800
 We'll keep an eye out for when and if they try to get back on, it could be a connection

549
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,800
 issue.

550
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,800
 Okay.

551
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,520
 Does someone have their phone numbers and can reach out to them?

552
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,000
 Eddie, do you have that capability?

553
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:09,960
 I'm sorry, you have to use the Russian.

554
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,960
 I just walked right in.

555
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,960
 You have the phone numbers for Denona, and Mr. Emmerich, they have dropped out of the

556
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,960
 meeting.

557
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,960
 I do.

558
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,960
 I have it.

559
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,120
 Let me pull that up real quick.

560
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:31,960
 And I think I sent forward you an email about James Emmerich, I missed the email earlier

561
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,080
 this morning, and he said that he was going to leave early for a work meeting, but he's

562
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,200
 going to dial back on.

563
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200
 Okay.

564
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200
 Oh, okay.

565
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,200
 Okay.

566
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,200
 All right.

567
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:49,320
 So we do have a hard stop at 2.30, because there's another public meeting at 3 o'clock.

568
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,280
 So just want to...

569
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,280
 Okay.

570
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,640
 Everybody is working on that, so Gary, you are needing us to give feedback and approval

571
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,880
 of this five-year plan, correct?

572
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,880
 Yeah.

573
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,700
 Feedback is great.

574
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:07,320
 Make sure that we're heading in the right direction.

575
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,240
 If it's not on here now, it doesn't mean it's never going to be on here.

576
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:16,520
 We'll keep adding things as things come up, and this helps us keep track of projects so

577
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:22,040
 we can forecast and balance our revenue, as well as it can be used as a platform for our

578
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,760
 next bond initiative.

579
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,480
 So they have kind of somewhere to start.

580
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,400
 We are working on some new software in the city that's going to help us track all our

581
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,400
 capital projects, so that was another reason why we started doing this.

582
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:42,040
 But it really provides us a baseline foundation for us to work from and communicate those

583
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,280
 needs and start planning.

584
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,920
 We've made a considerable amount of progress on our trails master plan, and I know we brought

585
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,720
 that to you probably six months ago.

586
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,440
 Our next meeting, we'll probably share that with you because we're just about done with

587
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:02,360
 that portion of the master plan, and there's a spreadsheet that looks similar to this just

588
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,680
 for the trails.

589
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:11,240
 So we are getting very detailed with things that we can be doing, so we can plan and really

590
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:16,000
 sell what we're trying to do for the community.

591
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,560
 So since this is, I'm sorry, David.

592
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:25,560
 Just a quick question, I noticed in the agenda there was a pretty good explanation for a

593
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,160
 number of the items that were on that spreadsheet.

594
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,920
 I don't think they were all on there unless I missed some.

595
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,680
 Is there a comprehensive list where if I was looking at that spreadsheet, I could pick

596
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,560
 any item off of it and get just a quick description of what that's about?

597
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,440
 Is there a document that might have that?

598
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,860
 Because I know what the majority of those are, but there were a few that I wouldn't

599
00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:52,360
 be able to answer if somebody asked me for sure.

600
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:59,560
 So I know probably a year or so ago, shortly after you started, we started doing a project

601
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,800
 kind of spreadsheet that had some of that detail.

602
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,200
 Yeah, I remember that.

603
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,200
 We weren't able to keep up with it.

604
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,600
 So what we're doing with our software is it has descriptions for each one of these projects,

605
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,760
 and we'll be able to literally print you out a report, and it'll give you tracking to

606
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,520
 that day, progress from a percentage, a Gantt chart of all the steps within that project,

607
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,960
 and where our budget is, and when we anticipate it being completed.

608
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,480
 So we're working to be able to provide that.

609
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:35,040
 We can probably put something together for you for the park board that has that outlined

610
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,280
 and get it to you fairly soon that gives you a little more detail.

611
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,560
 Well, I wouldn't want to waste inordinate resources on it.

612
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,920
 If it was something that was available, I'd like to see it, but I hate to diverse you guys

613
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,000
 for something that may not provide a lot of value.

614
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
 I think we have it.

615
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,800
 I think I can cut it, paste it into an Excel document, and share it with you guys.

616
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,880
 It won't be that much.

617
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,680
 You guys are always open for questions, and we have it anyway, so that's right.

618
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:08,400
 Okay, so this is an ongoing project.

619
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:16,120
 We are proving you just moving forward with it and presenting it to the council.

620
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,440
 What are you asking for us?

621
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:24,400
 If you could, based on what you provided, give us some support, a head nod or a thumbs

622
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,920
 up that we're heading in the right direction.

623
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,120
 If there's anything that you see is concerning, please let us know.

624
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,200
 If not, we're going to keep moving forward, and probably every year during your budget

625
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:42,200
 time we'll be coming to you hopefully maybe more like May, June with an updated five-year

626
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,840
 plan to show you.

627
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,240
 If anything significantly changes during the year, we'll give you an FYI or more than likely

628
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:54,040
 if it's that significant, you're going to get a staff report, a master plan, or whatever

629
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,520
 it would be.

630
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,820
 So you'll see those changes along the way.

631
00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:05,460
 This is not a document that's kind of stamped and said done, this is it, but I want to make

632
00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:09,960
 sure that we're communicating to you where we're going from and where we're trying to

633
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,720
 spend the money and the efforts and how we're coming up with that process.

634
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:19,560
 So it would be great to get that thumbs up from you guys that we're heading in the right

635
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:27,200
 direction, or thumbs down we're not, and change accordingly, and I think that's kind of where

636
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,200
 we're at.

637
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,720
 I've got a comment on that if you're open to it.

638
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:37,800
 I think, one, it's a great overall holistic view of what's going on.

639
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,480
 I think it's going to help you prioritize and triage as variables change.

640
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,400
 And I think it's informational, yet it's also open-ended enough that it's going to be flexible

641
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,440
 for movement.

642
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:56,120
 So from my perspective, I don't think you could provide a lot better direction based

643
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,440
 on what we have.

644
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,160
 This is a very aggressive plan.

645
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,520
 If anything, we may end up spreading things out a little bit more.

646
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,760
 So it can be challenging trying to pull off all this construction effort and improvements

647
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:17,440
 that quickly, but we feel like we're trying to make a substantial effort for the community.

648
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,320
 So that's our approach.

649
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,320
 Okay.

650
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,200
 And I want to commend you on that.

651
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,640
 And so if you could, if it's okay, can we use the reactions or do you want a physical

652
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,640
 hand?

653
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:37,640
 I guess you could just use a thumbs up, it'd be fine.

654
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,540
 All right.

655
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:40,860
 Thank you all.

656
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:46,560
 Next item, receive an informal report regarding the playground replacement plan for Bowling

657
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,920
 Green, Joe Stiles, Mack Park, and McKenna Park.

658
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,920
 Okay.

659
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,920
 Give me a second.

660
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:59,000
 I'll pull that up.

661
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:05,680
 Eddie, while he's doing that, did we find Danona?

662
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,800
 You're in the process of trying to get in touch with her now.

663
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,800
 Okay.

664
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,800
 Thank you.

665
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,160
 So Drew, Drew Huffman is going to lead us in this discussion and I'm going to work the

666
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,160
 controls.

667
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,160
 Okay.

668
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,160
 Thank you.

669
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,160
 All right.

670
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,160
 I'll let Gary pull it up.

671
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,080
 So we just wanted to make sure we brought this to you and showed you the amount of playgrounds

672
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680
 and the amount of planning that's gone in to get these playgrounds.

673
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,160
 Like Gary said that, you know, we were working on our capital plan.

674
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:41,980
 Well, this changes because whether we get funding from another source or we find funding

675
00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:47,000
 and we try to bundle these packages together to get more of an economic scale for purchasing

676
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,640
 power, and this is kind of where the playgrounds went.

677
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,400
 I started with two playgrounds and I think we have five now.

678
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,040
 So it's been pretty exciting.

679
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:03,920
 So we're four on this spreadsheet and there may be another one numbering you in August.

680
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:10,080
 So you know, we developed the playground replacement plan that was on this sheet also.

681
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,400
 And then we kind of went over that last year on how we went through and decided, you know,

682
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,360
 or showed where the playgrounds when they were installed, put them on a 15-year life

683
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:25,360
 cycle and, you know, and how they get installed throughout those the following 15 years.

684
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,640
 Some playgrounds last longer than others, and we've really seen that also, you know,

685
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,600
 due to shade, you know, abuse, use, and all the other things that go along with using

686
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,800
 playgrounds, how that really works.

687
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,920
 So you can go to the next slide, Gary.

688
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,920
 Here's the replacement plan.

689
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,360
 I know we went over that, you know, about a year ago and it kind of shows you, you know,

690
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120
 what our anticipated cost for those playgrounds.

691
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:56,160
 Those do vary just depending on size, whether we change the whole footprint of the playground

692
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,440
 or maybe we move it like we're moving to McKenna, it costs more to go in and add all that extra

693
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,320
 concrete and all that extra work to actually move the playground from its existing location

694
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,720
 to a new location.

695
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:15,240
 Gary, you're on mute.

696
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:22,120
 Okay, sorry, just to get quick rundown of what you're seeing here.

697
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,480
 So obviously all our playgrounds to the left, manufacturer, the age, the square footage,

698
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,360
 and when they're due for replacement and the anticipated replacement cost.

699
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:36,240
 That is with a 3% escalator compounded annually.

700
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:41,440
 The blue are playgrounds that we've replaced since 2018.

701
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,360
 The orange are playgrounds that we have funding for.

702
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,760
 The red playgrounds are ones that are set to be replaced or anticipated to be replaced

703
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,840
 in that calendar year, but are past their 15-year lifespan.

704
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,080
 That does not mean they're dangerous.

705
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,700
 That just means it's past the 15 years.

706
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:05,320
 Some playgrounds are 20 years old and they're fine based on what Drew said, if they're in

707
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,640
 the shade, if they haven't been vandalized a lot, they can last longer.

708
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:15,160
 But this at least gives us an idea of what we have coming and what we need funding for.

709
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,740
 And then the greens are replacement on schedule.

710
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:22,200
 So that's what you're looking at.

711
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:30,600
 All right, the first playground we want to show you was bowling green.

712
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:35,560
 So bowling green kind of goes back to, hey, we're going to put it in the same exact footprint,

713
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,360
 but the footprint is too small to really get the number of play features that we really

714
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,680
 want for a playground.

715
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,640
 So we're going to cut the concrete, we're going to make that area larger inside the

716
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,880
 border to really get some good play features in that playground.

717
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,640
 This playground actually right here will be one of the first ones installed in the nation

718
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,460
 of this design.

719
00:51:54,460 --> 00:52:02,320
 So also the kind of the colors, which we've really utilized this COVID time of going back

720
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,200
 and forth and sending emails, and then we'll jump online and show each other screens and

721
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,320
 kind of share, hey, here's color options, help me pick, or what are your kids, what

722
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,360
 is their most favorite play feature of a playground?

723
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,920
 And then obviously, we need shade, the shade here at Bowling Green is really good.

724
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:28,880
 We have some really nice trees on the southwest side of that park or that play area there.

725
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,040
 So it'll be really nice.

726
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,240
 Also, you remember that the community gardens are there.

727
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:37,200
 That's another reason why this color scheme kind of went with this playground, and we

728
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000
 really look forward to getting this installed.

729
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:46,680
 It was originally installed in 2001, so it is over its lifespan.

730
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:52,120
 It has had some issues over the years just with maintenance and its durability.

731
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,480
 We're not going back with the same vendor, we're going with a vendor that gave us that

732
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,880
 full 15-year bumper-to-bumper warranty.

733
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:07,560
 So that's really nice too, especially on a maintenance aspect.

734
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,920
 Next one's Joe Skiles.

735
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:18,720
 Question for you, Drew, on that previous park, I saw the tables and benches, is there need

736
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:25,040
 for shade structures for those, or is it set in a way where it's shaded naturally by trees?

737
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560
 It's set in a way where it's shaded at times.

738
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,160
 Okay, thank you.

739
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,840
 And a lot of those are already existing, so it doesn't, you know, this playground doesn't

740
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,040
 give you the joes or the bow and green, doesn't show you the trees that are already there,

741
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,080
 but you have the bench that's between the playground and the swing set, the trees are

742
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,760
 there.

743
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,280
 And so you'll have the shade on one of the picnic tables, and then one of the picnic

744
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,920
 tables that will be, you know, in sun probably in the morning and then shaded in the evening,

745
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,000
 and then you have shade over here for this bench that will be on the south or the west

746
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,760
 side of the playground.

747
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,760
 Perfect.

748
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,160
 Thank you.

749
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,160
 Joe Scowles.

750
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,680
 So, Joe Scowles is over, you know, about 35E, kind of across from the mall in that area

751
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:18,680
 in the Southridge area, so same time frame, really it's almost the exact same playground

752
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,280
 that was at both playgrounds currently.

753
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:29,400
 This is obviously a different color, different play features, kind of the same shade top,

754
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,020
 but here's another playground, we went through and picked colors, like I said, we went through,

755
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:38,600
 you know, lots of us in the office, kind of, hey, what are your favorite colors?

756
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,600
 What would you really like here?

757
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,760
 How does this really fit in?

758
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:49,200
 So that's how these colors were picked, but this also is just a, it's called a Vente,

759
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,680
 that's their Vente version of their playground, so that's the name of it, and it really has

760
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,840
 some really nice play features for all ages, and I think the kids are really going to have

761
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,040
 a lot of fun on this playground.

762
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,760
 Just to add, this is a combination of 9, 15, 16 funding and some bond playground money

763
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,920
 that we are going to, hopefully using, we're going to be going to the bond oversight committee,

764
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:17,020
 ask them to redirect some extra money for playgrounds to this site.

765
00:55:17,020 --> 00:55:22,960
 That looks like just bare or brushed aluminum or something, is that what that's actually

766
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,360
 made of, or is it a plastic kind of covering that's just that color?

767
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,360
 The metal?

768
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,040
 Yeah, I mean, is that actually metal metal?

769
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,920
 Yeah, it's metal metal, and it's powder coated that color.

770
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,280
 Okay, that's where I was going, I wasn't coming up with the right terminology, okay.

771
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,600
 So it, yeah, it's metal metal, but it's powder coated that color.

772
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,040
 I understand, thanks.

773
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:51,080
 And the next one, Mack Park, this is the playground that's currently there, as you can see, as

774
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,480
 you can see, you know, you go back to the playgrounds that we've replaced in the past

775
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,520
 couple years, and the playgrounds I just showed you, it doesn't have, you know, near the amount

776
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:05,080
 of play features or really an ICD to it, it's starting to really get warped to where, you

777
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,120
 know, that coating is coming off all the platforms, we're having issues with the slides, it's

778
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,680
 just hit its lifespan.

779
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,360
 So we're in design right now, we've narrowed it down to two designs that we really like,

780
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,680
 those two designs have, you know, whenever you're looking at things, things are going

781
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,560
 to cost differently, so they're about a $30,000 difference in the two designs that we have

782
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,560
 at the moment, so we're trying to make up our mind whether we spend the extra $30,000

783
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,120
 to get a larger, more, a larger playground there, kind of go with a more conservative

784
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,220
 playground for less money.

785
00:56:39,220 --> 00:56:44,120
 But still, in this area, you have two playgrounds, so we have the Mack North, which is this playground,

786
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:49,040
 and then you have Roberts or Mack South, which has a really nice playground also, so we're

787
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,040
 going through that decision making process at the moment, but we'll, we'll have bundled

788
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,480
 in these playgrounds, Mack will be in that bundle, and so we should make our decision

789
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,100
 this week, and I can bring it back in August, or I can send you an ISR and show you which

790
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:08,040
 one we picked and all the colors, so we work with DBBI also, because, you know, these,

791
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,260
 this one's at the ball fields.

792
00:57:11,260 --> 00:57:17,100
 So next is my favorite right now, is really, we were really happy to put this one together,

793
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:24,900
 this is not a playground in their catalog at all, we just, we took about three or four

794
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:29,600
 different designs, and, you know, Gary said he really liked this, and Laura said she liked

795
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,920
 this, and Jason Bunnell, our park planner, liked this, and, you know, we had a couple

796
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,500
 other people in the office put it together, and we went back, and, you know, us with small

797
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:40,560
 children said, "Hey, what's your favorite play feature, what do you really like to play

798
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,560
 in?"

799
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,080
 Because, you know, our kids are all different ages, and what, what, what they really, really

800
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:52,560
 like to do, so, this one's going to be at McKenna, it'll be, of course, this one's completely,

801
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,480
 you know, we went over the McKenna reconstruction a couple months ago, this is going to go up

802
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,920
 by where the cedar trees are, closer to the, to Thomas Street, at Thomas and Scripture,

803
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,360
 versus where the playground is now, the old playground will be removed, and this new playground

804
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,040
 will go, will go in.

805
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:21,120
 So, I have a general, I have a general question, and David, you know, alluded to this, the

806
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:30,280
 metal on the playgrounds, how, when you, you say it's coated, the heat, the Texas heat,

807
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:38,320
 and the effect of metal, I know you've, you probably told us this before, but I have forgotten,

808
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:45,640
 tell us, what do you consider when you look at the metal pieces for the playgrounds?

809
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:51,320
 So really it has to do with durability, and of course colors go into that a lot, so, you

810
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,520
 know, we try to pick a lot of, you know, kind of neutral colors and softer colors so they

811
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,440
 don't absorb as much heat, and also we wrote into our new specifications, we changed them

812
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:08,360
 for what we, last time we had playgrounds versus this time, where we required 50% shade

813
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,640
 to cover playground features, and you can see, especially if you're, if you go back

814
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,360
 to the McKenna playground, it kind of gives you, that rendering gives you a look on how

815
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,680
 much shade's coming down from the shade cloths, and of course it'll depend on the time of

816
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:27,720
 day that we're playing on the playground, I guess Gary's gonna bring it back up.

817
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,040
 But you can see how much shade is over the big section of the playground, and of course

818
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,800
 how much shade really puts on the ground and puts on those features, and then of course,

819
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:41,160
 you know, with that playground there, the two to five area that has a smaller square

820
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,720
 shade cloth, you can see how much shade's going down on top of that two to five, that

821
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,840
 taut area of the playground.

822
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:54,560
 Just to add one additional comment, you know, I've encouraged Drew, and we've talked a lot

823
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,680
 about using reds and purples, if you look at McKenna, I think we have reds and purples

824
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:07,120
 there right now, and they do not hold their color very well in the sun, so it makes them

825
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,840
 look a lot older than they are as well, so we're trying to stay away from those colors.

826
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:20,160
 The lime greens and the steel colors and the dark blues have really, and the yellows have

827
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:27,720
 really come in trendy, so that's kind of like a new wave, and they're going to more climbing

828
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:33,000
 type of playgrounds that we're trying to incorporate some of that too, so we're trying to get out

829
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:39,200
 of just the regular traditional slide, you know, real basic things, try to do things

830
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,480
 a little bit differently and add some new play features to our community.

831
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,920
 Okay, thank you.

832
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,640
 Any additional questions?

833
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:57,120
 Hi, I actually have a few questions about the design of the playgrounds, I appreciate

834
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:02,040
 that y'all have been working hard on them and talking internally about the design, but

835
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:07,440
 I feel like a lot of the things we've talked about in past meetings were forgotten about

836
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:14,560
 or not incorporated, like having more natural looks to the playgrounds, or I know some of

837
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:27,000
 the designs that Glen brought to us incorporated, like, leafs and different natural shapes.

838
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:33,280
 I didn't see like any boulders or stomps or anything like that, and I just, these are

839
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:39,320
 our spaces, we're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on these spaces, and our children

840
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:46,280
 are running out of like, places to play in nature, and when we just have them like, blue

841
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:53,360
 and plastic and metal, without very much nature around them, that's not preparing for our

842
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:59,040
 children to have those natural spaces around their homes, and that's very concerning to

843
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,840
 me, personally.

844
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:17,400
 And I also, I feel like places for parents to sit while the kids play are just as important

845
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,400
 as the actual equipment that they're being played on, and I understand there are all

846
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:28,960
 kinds of cost points, but if the parents don't have a shady place to sit, they're not going

847
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:35,720
 to take their kid during the day, because it's so uncomfortable and miserable.

848
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:42,840
 So I guess I would just like to know if like, the parent's sitting place has been considered

849
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:50,680
 and like, the idea for natural playscapes is being considered.

850
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:57,800
 So to answer, I guess the last question first, what you see on those designs are computer

851
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,360
 generated, they're not necessarily, the benches aren't where we're going to specifically put

852
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,440
 them, so that, it's just more or less what the play feature, kind of inside the woodchips

853
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,280
 is going to look like.

854
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,760
 The shape structures are pretty expensive.

855
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:22,560
 We looked at a shape structure that would go over Nettie Schultz, and it is $92,000

856
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,200
 just for that playground, and there's really not much to it.

857
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:36,060
 We're trying to balance replacing old equipment and kind of get caught up with structures

858
01:03:36,060 --> 01:03:42,760
 and balance as much shade as we can put in there, as opposed to putting a tent completely

859
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:49,580
 over it, similar to Denia, where it's almost like an event tent.

860
01:03:49,580 --> 01:03:59,520
 From a nature themed standpoint, I agree with you, we do need to put more into that.

861
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,920
 We can still put boulders in there, we can put stamps in the concrete.

862
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,200
 Grand Prairie specifically took leaves, and they made stamps of leaves that are trees

863
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:15,760
 in their community and stamped them in the concrete, so it incorporated some play into

864
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,620
 a concrete, something as simple as concrete.

865
01:04:18,620 --> 01:04:22,460
 But we can do some more of that.

866
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:26,920
 There are some designs, I think Drew had shared with us, that some of the companies are working

867
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,920
 on that's more nature related, that we can definitely look at for the next ones.

868
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,720
 Drew, shake your head.

869
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,520
 So there are some new structures coming out.

870
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:47,540
 Some of the features that are out there, nature related, are specifically designed, and they

871
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:49,120
 are going to be a lot more money.

872
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:55,100
 We can continue to look at those in the future, for sure.

873
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:58,800
 Based off of your feedback, we can head in that direction.

874
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:04,640
 We are implementing a play feature at the Nook, similar to what you're talking about,

875
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:10,480
 that's under the trees at the library that's more kind of, it's not tree stumps, but there's

876
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:17,400
 circles and rectangles, those are made out of concrete, based on kind of some of Glen's

877
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:24,520
 ideas of incorporating improvements into existing terrain.

878
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,920
 But we can look more at that direction, for sure.

879
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,600
 I would really like to see some of that at McKenna Park.

880
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:38,280
 It's in the trees, it could be a really nice, natural looking area.

881
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,840
 We are going to be putting in more trees, I'm not sure if we finalized how many and

882
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,280
 exactly where.

883
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:49,100
 I think there's two trees that need to be relocated.

884
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:53,540
 So we are looking at some natural shade over there as well.

885
01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:55,440
 We just can't provide enough shade.

886
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:00,980
 And then at the same time, in the wintertime, when it's cold, you want the sun too.

887
01:06:00,980 --> 01:06:04,300
 So it's kind of trying to provide a balance.

888
01:06:04,300 --> 01:06:09,060
 So Drew's implemented, I think that 50% shade for the design.

889
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:11,540
 So we have some sort of balance there.

890
01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:17,400
 I would just like to say, can you please consider changing the blue to green or some kind of

891
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:24,120
 like camouflaged color into the natural background, if it's not too late?

892
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,360
 For which one?

893
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,180
 For McKenna.

894
01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:35,220
 It's the only one I think that was blue.

895
01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:43,880
 Yeah McKenna is like a turquoise with the poles and then more of a royal blue top.

896
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,980
 I totally get what you mean by natural style.

897
01:06:47,980 --> 01:06:52,400
 I feel like when playgrounds were closed, we had to get really creative.

898
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,700
 So we used all kinds of boulders and stuff as our playground.

899
01:06:56,700 --> 01:07:02,080
 So I think that probably goes to kind of, when we're looking at the master plan moving

900
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,380
 forward, that I think people's opinions on what playgrounds are going to look like are

901
01:07:06,380 --> 01:07:11,460
 going to be a little different too and be open to more of that style that you're referring

902
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:12,460
 to.

903
01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:22,340
 I think it just also goes with our city sustainability goals.

904
01:07:22,340 --> 01:07:25,780
 Are you referring to the colors, Alana?

905
01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:31,060
 Yes, when I'm talking about sustainability goals, I'm talking more about like having

906
01:07:31,060 --> 01:07:35,500
 natural things incorporated into the playscape.

907
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:38,540
 The color, it is what it is.

908
01:07:38,540 --> 01:07:44,380
 It's my personal preference that the playground kind of like blends in with nature, but you

909
01:07:44,380 --> 01:07:49,260
 could also argue that it's the color of the sky, so I mean I can see it both ways.

910
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:57,100
 That's not really as big a concern to me as like having natural things for the kids to

911
01:07:57,100 --> 01:08:02,860
 touch and play on because they can't just go out in the woods like kids used to be able

912
01:08:02,860 --> 01:08:03,860
 to do.

913
01:08:03,860 --> 01:08:08,380
 They can't go jump on rocks and I mean all those things, there are study after study

914
01:08:08,380 --> 01:08:14,740
 after study that shows that jumping on rocks and playing is good for their development.

915
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:19,220
 And I think that's where Gary alluded to, some of those play features are changing from

916
01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:25,900
 just slides and normal things that we're used to seeing on those playgrounds.

917
01:08:25,900 --> 01:08:29,780
 We always alluded to when guys show Gary a playground, I was like, "Look, the floor is

918
01:08:29,780 --> 01:08:30,780
 lava."

919
01:08:30,780 --> 01:08:36,500
 How do I come from one section of the playground and never touch the floor on all these features

920
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:42,780
 to get from one end to the other without having to crawl down or if I do crawl down, I crawl

921
01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:47,460
 down and I hop on a stump or a platform and then I hop from another section.

922
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:51,620
 So it's really cool to go out there and see those kids play on different features and

923
01:08:51,620 --> 01:08:57,460
 it all depending, no matter how old they are, if they're five or if they're 12, the floor

924
01:08:57,460 --> 01:08:58,460
 is lava.

925
01:08:58,460 --> 01:09:00,580
 So it's really neat to see that.

926
01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:06,260
 And we can, Drew and I can look at bringing some boulders in and periodically placing

927
01:09:06,260 --> 01:09:11,420
 those where the concrete ribbon would be as long as it's out of the fall zone for the

928
01:09:11,420 --> 01:09:18,180
 equipment to really almost look like we worked around the boulders that were in the earth,

929
01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:22,620
 make them look like they were naturally there and maybe incorporate some tree planting around

930
01:09:22,620 --> 01:09:23,620
 it.

931
01:09:23,620 --> 01:09:25,640
 So it looked like we incorporated nature into that.

932
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:31,060
 So we can tweak some of that design to provide some of that as well.

933
01:09:31,060 --> 01:09:35,580
 And then, Alana, if you go back to look at McKenna, if you look on your pictures that

934
01:09:35,580 --> 01:09:40,820
 you have there from McKenna Park, so you have the top picture, you'll see that ribbon in

935
01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:46,900
 between the, I guess Gary's going to show it, the ribbon between the swings and zipline

936
01:09:46,900 --> 01:09:51,060
 and the playground, that's also a sitting feature.

937
01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:54,900
 So if you look at the very top feature, you have shade there and then depending on the

938
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:59,620
 times of the day, you're going to have shade along that sitting feature there.

939
01:09:59,620 --> 01:10:04,940
 And that's where, you know, you could have shade as a parent.

940
01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:10,800
 We could incorporate some boulders like for instance here or even in here as long as it's

941
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,660
 the right distance away from the fall areas to provide some of that natural look and,

942
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:20,420
 you know, plant some trees fairly close so it looks like we, you know, we worked around

943
01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:25,900
 the tree and it wasn't, you know, designed and cleared and starting from scratch.

944
01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:29,860
 So we can try to make some of those adjustments.

945
01:10:29,860 --> 01:10:34,940
 We actually looked at this one almost like as a treehouse kind of concept for both of

946
01:10:34,940 --> 01:10:38,580
 these and this one, this was kind of more like a rocket but it's also like a treehouse.

947
01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:44,140
 That was one of the things that we kind of liked about it from McKenna Park because it's

948
01:10:44,140 --> 01:10:46,060
 kind of sitting up high.

949
01:10:46,060 --> 01:10:54,820
 This just lets kids get a little bit higher in that park.

950
01:10:54,820 --> 01:11:00,180
 I think you guys are doing awesome, I'll say we have Mulch Mountain at Avondale or we did,

951
01:11:00,180 --> 01:11:04,480
 I don't know if it's still there, but like the kids freaking love it.

952
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:08,820
 I don't care how old you are, they're up there at the top of the Mulch Mountain and going

953
01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:09,820
 down to it.

954
01:11:09,820 --> 01:11:10,820
 We do have quite a few.

955
01:11:10,820 --> 01:11:13,340
 The best kids are going to love it, you're doing great.

956
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:15,700
 I've seen adult kids at North Lakes Park too.

957
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:16,700
 Oh yeah, exactly.

958
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:21,140
 Yeah, we played on the boulders near the dog park the other day.

959
01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:26,620
 I guess they're by the animal shelter, but they're cool because they have all kinds of

960
01:11:26,620 --> 01:11:30,460
 moss and lichen growing on them and we had like this whole science lesson because of

961
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:31,460
 those boulders.

962
01:11:31,460 --> 01:11:33,420
 So it was just like, I love that.

963
01:11:33,420 --> 01:11:35,820
 I want more of that for our kids.

964
01:11:35,820 --> 01:11:39,900
 And there's naturally going to be more of that happening starting this fall.

965
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:44,500
 I can guarantee it happened at our house this spring and it will continue as I feel like

966
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:48,860
 people are going to have to move outdoors into our parks and playgrounds as part of

967
01:11:48,860 --> 01:11:52,740
 their education plan.

968
01:11:52,740 --> 01:12:00,700
 One last question about accessibility, Drew or Gary.

969
01:12:00,700 --> 01:12:06,860
 How is that incorporated in the parks, these parks?

970
01:12:06,860 --> 01:12:09,420
 As far as this playground, are all the playgrounds?

971
01:12:09,420 --> 01:12:11,740
 The ones that we are discussing, yeah.

972
01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:18,020
 Yeah, so these aren't any of these playgrounds, they're not set up as, I know we talked about

973
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:24,960
 a future all-inclusive playground and it's actually not on our five-year CIP list on

974
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:30,340
 paper, but it is something that we are working on behind the scenes on exactly where that's

975
01:12:30,340 --> 01:12:31,340
 going to go.

976
01:12:31,340 --> 01:12:33,140
 That was part of our master plan.

977
01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:38,260
 Normal playgrounds do have, you know, these do have features.

978
01:12:38,260 --> 01:12:45,900
 We did look at McKenna and actually all four of these playgrounds you saw today to add,

979
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:52,140
 you know, the rubber, not rubber mulch, but the rubber matting down for all the playgrounds,

980
01:12:52,140 --> 01:12:55,940
 McKenna alone was $120,000 extra.

981
01:12:55,940 --> 01:13:00,140
 So instead of doing wood fiber that we have at our playgrounds right now, it was another

982
01:13:00,140 --> 01:13:08,380
 $120,000 to put that rubber down and that rubber is, it anticipates the heat during

983
01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:09,420
 the summer.

984
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:11,780
 It doesn't absorb like the wood fiber does.

985
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:16,100
 So they do have features that wood fiber is ADA accessible.

986
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:18,780
 It will have ADA ramps into the playground.

987
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:24,820
 It does have platforms for ADA accessibility.

988
01:13:24,820 --> 01:13:28,120
 So it does meet those requirements.

989
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:35,700
 If you look at, go back to McKenna, it has one of the ziplines is an ADA seat for the

990
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:36,700
 zipline.

991
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:42,380
 So instead of it just being one zipline there, which McKenna has at the moment, it's two

992
01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:43,380
 ziplines.

993
01:13:43,380 --> 01:13:47,020
 So a normal zipline that you jump on and sit, kind of like the ziplines that we have at

994
01:13:47,020 --> 01:13:48,180
 Eureka 2 right now.

995
01:13:48,180 --> 01:13:55,540
 But it also has an ADA seat for the second zipline there at the new McKenna playground.

996
01:13:55,540 --> 01:14:00,540
 Just to add to Drew, the engineered wood fibers, it's not just a regular mulch that you can

997
01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:01,540
 buy at a landscape.

998
01:14:01,540 --> 01:14:02,540
 No, it's not.

999
01:14:02,540 --> 01:14:06,980
 It's specifically for so you can get a wheelchair in there.

1000
01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:09,440
 So that is ADA accessible.

1001
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:13,860
 But that playground doesn't mean that every kid that's in a wheelchair can get into the

1002
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:18,220
 play structure and reach all of the play features.

1003
01:14:18,220 --> 01:14:21,980
 There's a certain amount or percentage of features that have to be accessible from the

1004
01:14:21,980 --> 01:14:22,980
 ground.

1005
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:27,880
 There is a transfer station for kids to be able to pull themselves up into the play structure

1006
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,880
 if they like.

1007
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:36,020
 But that's part of the ADA accessibility rules that are out there for playground design.

1008
01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:38,620
 But we're trying to incorporate as much as we can.

1009
01:14:38,620 --> 01:14:40,840
 There is a retaining wall and steps in there.

1010
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,940
 If a child or adult in a wheelchair that wants to get there, they can just go around the

1011
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:47,020
 perimeter to get to the other side.

1012
01:14:47,020 --> 01:14:51,360
 So it is accessible and it will be.

1013
01:14:51,360 --> 01:15:01,580
 But we do have an inclusive playground in the five-year plan for design for '21-'22.

1014
01:15:01,580 --> 01:15:07,480
 That is in there with anticipation of building it a few years later.

1015
01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:08,480
 Thank you.

1016
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:10,580
 I appreciate that information.

1017
01:15:10,580 --> 01:15:12,620
 Any additional questions and concerns?

1018
01:15:12,620 --> 01:15:17,260
 I was just curious if there are any other things that could be added, say like to Mack

1019
01:15:17,260 --> 01:15:23,900
 Park, if it's a smaller park, if that style of flooring could be placed there to make

1020
01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:29,780
 it a more accessible park and utilize some of that accessibility funding that we have

1021
01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:39,000
 to help so that there's something now to meet the current needs?

1022
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,000
 We can look at it.

1023
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:46,340
 I know Drew had gotten a price for each one of them.

1024
01:15:46,340 --> 01:15:49,460
 I can't remember what the price was for that additional poured-in-place feature.

1025
01:15:49,460 --> 01:15:57,420
 I would have to go back, but typically, poured-in-place is anywhere from seven to ten times more than

1026
01:15:57,420 --> 01:16:03,180
 what 5R is, and 5R is what we normally have or what we have in there.

1027
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:05,260
 That doesn't mean that we can't change it.

1028
01:16:05,260 --> 01:16:11,940
 I have really looked at how much it costs and which poured-in-place they are all created

1029
01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:12,940
 equal.

1030
01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:16,580
 I looked at their heat retention, I looked at how hot they're really getting, I looked

1031
01:16:16,580 --> 01:16:21,800
 at their costs, and I looked at which company is lasting the longest all over North Texas

1032
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,460
 depending on what city and how much use they're getting.

1033
01:16:25,460 --> 01:16:27,660
 School districts really go with that poured-in-place.

1034
01:16:27,660 --> 01:16:31,020
 They have different funding.

1035
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:35,300
 Of course, their traffic is all at once and then they're off, and then all at once and

1036
01:16:35,300 --> 01:16:38,100
 they're off where ours is more sporadic.

1037
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:43,300
 I'm going to continue to look at it and continue to hopefully get it in one of our parks.

1038
01:16:43,300 --> 01:16:45,660
 It just has to do with cost.

1039
01:16:45,660 --> 01:16:50,860
 For the amount of play features that you really want to get on that playground, you'll have

1040
01:16:50,860 --> 01:16:55,300
 to sacrifice play features for surfacing.

1041
01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:56,300
 Sure.

1042
01:16:56,300 --> 01:17:00,820
 George, did you have a question?

1043
01:17:00,820 --> 01:17:02,220
 Yes, ma'am.

1044
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:03,460
 Thank you.

1045
01:17:03,460 --> 01:17:10,540
 I guess I just wanted to also uplift and bring to the attention if we do a lot of surveys

1046
01:17:10,540 --> 01:17:15,320
 and ask a lot of communities and groups for their inputs, if we're specifically asking

1047
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:20,140
 citizens with disabilities or citizens with children or family members with disabilities

1048
01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:22,820
 about features they'd like to see in parks.

1049
01:17:22,820 --> 01:17:28,480
 I know Valvera at the Disability Inclusion Society would be a good person to reach out

1050
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:32,460
 to in the community who does a lot of work.

1051
01:17:32,460 --> 01:17:42,340
 I know that we had a meeting in the before time about a center, an inclusive center.

1052
01:17:42,340 --> 01:17:48,020
 I don't remember the names of those folks, and I know you will remember Gary, Laura,

1053
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:49,020
 et cetera.

1054
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:53,420
 But reaching out and just seeing what else could be put into this five-year plan, because

1055
01:17:53,420 --> 01:17:58,300
 as Gary said, it is very aggressive, and I think it's great to put the stars, go for

1056
01:17:58,300 --> 01:17:59,300
 whatever we can.

1057
01:17:59,300 --> 01:18:05,340
 And I think including this would be at the top of my list to make sure that we're really

1058
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:09,140
 hitting those marks and trying to reach those as well.

1059
01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:10,380
 That's all I wanted to uplift.

1060
01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:11,380
 Yes.

1061
01:18:11,380 --> 01:18:20,540
 George, we did have a meeting with accessibility individuals in regards to whether it's physically

1062
01:18:20,540 --> 01:18:25,240
 impaired, mentally impaired, in regards to what we could do for our park system.

1063
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,240
 That was pre-COVID.

1064
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,740
 It seems like it was so long ago.

1065
01:18:28,740 --> 01:18:30,580
 And we did talk about an inclusive playground.

1066
01:18:30,580 --> 01:18:34,220
 At one point in time, we were thinking about Southwest Park.

1067
01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:41,860
 The feedback that we got was it's not on a bus stop, and it is kind of far away.

1068
01:18:41,860 --> 01:18:45,620
 That doesn't mean we wouldn't put one there.

1069
01:18:45,620 --> 01:18:47,060
 It wouldn't be our primary one.

1070
01:18:47,060 --> 01:18:51,660
 So maybe we kind of thought maybe we have a north and a south one as South Denton starts

1071
01:18:51,660 --> 01:18:54,840
 to grow, those residents could go there.

1072
01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:01,020
 So we kind of penciled in North Lakes as when we go to replace that play structure up there,

1073
01:19:01,020 --> 01:19:06,260
 there's a lot of pine trees in that area that that first inclusive structure would go in

1074
01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:08,620
 that location.

1075
01:19:08,620 --> 01:19:12,060
 So and that was based off the feedback from that group.

1076
01:19:12,060 --> 01:19:15,420
 We still have a lot of work to do, and we need to circle around with that group because

1077
01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:21,380
 we were going to put together a focus group from that larger group that attended that

1078
01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:26,180
 meeting, and we never got to it and then COVID hit and it just everything got derailed.

1079
01:19:26,180 --> 01:19:28,540
 So that is something that we want to restart.

1080
01:19:28,540 --> 01:19:35,600
 And then in this five year plan is an ADA transition plan that based off of some quotes

1081
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,580
 we got, it's we broke it into three phases at $75,000 a year where they would go in and

1082
01:19:41,580 --> 01:19:46,580
 evaluate all of our parks, all of our trails, all of our buildings to make sure that they're

1083
01:19:46,580 --> 01:19:51,980
 ADA accessible and if they're not, what do we need to do to get them into an improvement

1084
01:19:51,980 --> 01:19:52,980
 plan?

1085
01:19:52,980 --> 01:19:58,100
 So that is something that is on our horizon as well.

1086
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:00,460
 All right.

1087
01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:01,460
 Thank you so much.

1088
01:20:01,460 --> 01:20:08,140
 I just want to commend you guys on all the hard work you are putting into the upgrades

1089
01:20:08,140 --> 01:20:11,260
 of the equipment.

1090
01:20:11,260 --> 01:20:15,780
 The next item, if there are no additional questions or concerns.

1091
01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:20,500
 The next item is to receive a report, hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding

1092
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:23,980
 the proposed amendments to the naming policy guidelines.

1093
01:20:23,980 --> 01:20:24,980
 Okay.

1094
01:20:24,980 --> 01:20:46,500
 Give me one second and let me hold that up.

1095
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:48,540
 I know Heather had worked on this a lot.

1096
01:20:48,540 --> 01:20:52,060
 I think Eddie put this specific amendment together.

1097
01:20:52,060 --> 01:20:56,300
 I think Eddie was going to present it and then Heather's there for backup and I'll operate

1098
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:57,300
 the slides.

1099
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:03,700
 My name is Eddie Valdez, management analyst for the Parks and Recreation Department and

1100
01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:04,700
 good afternoon.

1101
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:09,300
 So I will be covering the temporary naming procedures.

1102
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:14,740
 And so a quick background and history about the temporary naming is throughout the past

1103
01:21:14,740 --> 01:21:20,540
 year the park staff has been working on revising the current naming policy, including gathering

1104
01:21:20,540 --> 01:21:25,500
 feedback from the Parks and Recreation Board and city council.

1105
01:21:25,500 --> 01:21:30,580
 After many revisions, city council approved the resolution to amend the naming policy

1106
01:21:30,580 --> 01:21:33,460
 on January 7th of this year.

1107
01:21:33,460 --> 01:21:39,260
 The new naming policy will define the naming rights, also clarifies naming rights for a

1108
01:21:39,260 --> 01:21:46,680
 defined period of time and also specifies once a naming right term has ended and facility

1109
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,020
 may be renamed.

1110
01:21:48,020 --> 01:21:54,020
 However, the new naming policy does not address when internal staff use temporary names during

1111
01:21:54,020 --> 01:21:58,060
 the acquisition or development phase to identify building facilities or land.

1112
01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:00,940
 Can you go to the previous slide, please?

1113
01:22:00,940 --> 01:22:01,940
 Thank you.

1114
01:22:01,940 --> 01:22:03,340
 Almost there.

1115
01:22:03,340 --> 01:22:09,500
 So on February 21 of this year, park board chair Francis Punch requested a discussion

1116
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:14,220
 regarding the use of temporary naming for internal use for staff.

1117
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:19,260
 Staff brought the discussion of the temporary naming procedures in the March 2nd Parks Recreation

1118
01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:21,580
 and Beautification Board meeting.

1119
01:22:21,580 --> 01:22:25,740
 We ended the discussion with staff coming back with a draft template to address temporary

1120
01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:31,220
 naming and staff has addressed this issue with a temporary naming procedures that will

1121
01:22:31,220 --> 01:22:36,940
 be incorporated into the naming policy for city buildings, facilities and land.

1122
01:22:36,940 --> 01:22:41,060
 So if you look at exhibit three, you'll see an attachment and that's the proposed draft

1123
01:22:41,060 --> 01:22:47,320
 amendments to the naming policy that addresses this issue.

1124
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,700
 So here's a quick summary of the amendments, the naming policy.

1125
01:22:51,700 --> 01:22:57,340
 If you look at, I don't know if we can, well, we already have, but if you have it pulled

1126
01:22:57,340 --> 01:23:04,060
 up, you'll see everything, all the changes in highlighted in yellow.

1127
01:23:04,060 --> 01:23:11,140
 And what we did is we defined, in section two we defined a definition that defines temporary

1128
01:23:11,140 --> 01:23:19,060
 naming and then we also included a certain section dedicated for temporary naming procedures

1129
01:23:19,060 --> 01:23:21,780
 and that's going to be section six.

1130
01:23:21,780 --> 01:23:25,020
 Now we'll talk about section six real quick.

1131
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:30,140
 So the first part to this is staff will use a geographic location such as the street name,

1132
01:23:30,140 --> 01:23:36,860
 frontage road or major intersection and then staff will use an identifier such as a property

1133
01:23:36,860 --> 01:23:39,060
 or building after the geographic location.

1134
01:23:39,060 --> 01:23:44,260
 So for example, you know, if we were to name Main Street, we would say Main Street property

1135
01:23:44,260 --> 01:23:48,700
 or Main Street building, you know, as a temporary name.

1136
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:53,900
 And one last thing to add is that staff is encouraging citizens and the public groups

1137
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:58,380
 or organizations to submit nominations for naming so that this temporary naming that will

1138
01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:04,180
 be seized essentially, you know, so it's not going to just carry on over.

1139
01:24:04,180 --> 01:24:09,500
 So next steps, if you, you know, Park Board members were to approve the amendments to

1140
01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:15,260
 the naming policy, we will proceed with our internal process and try to get this to city

1141
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:20,580
 council for their approval.

1142
01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:21,580
 Thank you, Eddie.

1143
01:24:21,580 --> 01:24:27,140
 Thank you so much for working so hard and the staff are working so hard on this amendment.

1144
01:24:27,140 --> 01:24:32,980
 Do you, are there any questions, concerns, comments?

1145
01:24:32,980 --> 01:24:38,820
 A full disclosure, Francis, we were going to be ready to bring this back in April.

1146
01:24:38,820 --> 01:24:41,580
 So we had a couple extra months to get it done.

1147
01:24:41,580 --> 01:24:45,660
 So I just wanted to let you know.

1148
01:24:45,660 --> 01:24:46,660
 Thank you.

1149
01:24:46,660 --> 01:24:47,660
 Thank you so much.

1150
01:24:47,660 --> 01:24:48,660
 David.

1151
01:24:48,660 --> 01:24:50,900
 Yeah, this question is actually for you, Francis.

1152
01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:55,860
 I know that this was a concern that you brought and I just wondered if this kind of filled

1153
01:24:55,860 --> 01:25:01,700
 your concern and met what you're, you know, met what you were worried about.

1154
01:25:01,700 --> 01:25:02,700
 Absolutely.

1155
01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:10,300
 They have been, we've been in discussion and they have listened to my concerns thoroughly

1156
01:25:10,300 --> 01:25:13,580
 and I think they are being applied appropriately.

1157
01:25:13,580 --> 01:25:14,700
 Thank you.

1158
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:19,300
 If you look at the five year CIP plan, we do have some parcels on there that we're working

1159
01:25:19,300 --> 01:25:23,380
 with from the development community and we've tried to utilize that.

1160
01:25:23,380 --> 01:25:29,060
 So you'll see, you know, X property listed on there.

1161
01:25:29,060 --> 01:25:35,780
 So we're trying to implement that and get that into a habit ahead of time.

1162
01:25:35,780 --> 01:25:36,780
 Okay.

1163
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:44,140
 If there are no concerns or questions, I need a motion to approve the new amendment, the

1164
01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:45,140
 proposed amendment.

1165
01:25:45,140 --> 01:25:47,380
 Was that you, George?

1166
01:25:47,380 --> 01:25:48,660
 Yes, some move.

1167
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:53,140
 That was my only request was that you were, that all the things you wanted to get clarified

1168
01:25:53,140 --> 01:25:55,580
 were clarified and changed.

1169
01:25:55,580 --> 01:25:57,540
 I'll second.

1170
01:25:57,540 --> 01:25:58,540
 Okay.

1171
01:25:58,540 --> 01:26:02,340
 Did you get that, Eddie?

1172
01:26:02,340 --> 01:26:05,580
 I second.

1173
01:26:05,580 --> 01:26:11,940
 Eddie, you're on mute.

1174
01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:12,940
 Can't hear you, Eddie.

1175
01:26:12,940 --> 01:26:13,940
 You cannot hear me?

1176
01:26:13,940 --> 01:26:14,940
 Now we can.

1177
01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:15,940
 All right.

1178
01:26:15,940 --> 01:26:16,940
 Yep.

1179
01:26:16,940 --> 01:26:17,940
 I got that.

1180
01:26:17,940 --> 01:26:18,940
 Okay.

1181
01:26:18,940 --> 01:26:20,340
 Thank you.

1182
01:26:20,340 --> 01:26:25,300
 Next item, receive an informal report regarding Denton Parks foundation updates.

1183
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:26,300
 You're on, Brooke.

1184
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:27,300
 All right.

1185
01:26:27,300 --> 01:26:28,300
 Oh, I'm sorry.

1186
01:26:28,300 --> 01:26:29,300
 Nope.

1187
01:26:29,300 --> 01:26:30,300
 I don't think we actually took...

1188
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:31,300
 I'm out of practice, Dave.

1189
01:26:31,300 --> 01:26:32,300
 I'm out of practice.

1190
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:33,300
 Thank you.

1191
01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:37,300
 Thank you for keeping me honest.

1192
01:26:37,300 --> 01:26:38,300
 All right.

1193
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:39,300
 All in favor?

1194
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:40,300
 Raise your hand.

1195
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:43,820
 I need a physical hand.

1196
01:26:43,820 --> 01:26:44,820
 Anyone opposed?

1197
01:26:44,820 --> 01:26:45,820
 All right.

1198
01:26:45,820 --> 01:26:50,380
 Wait, Denona Lee, are you voting?

1199
01:26:50,380 --> 01:26:53,340
 I'm in favor.

1200
01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:54,340
 Okay.

1201
01:26:54,340 --> 01:26:55,340
 Thank you so much.

1202
01:26:55,340 --> 01:26:58,900
 Eddie, did you get all of that?

1203
01:26:58,900 --> 01:26:59,900
 Okay.

1204
01:26:59,900 --> 01:27:03,340
 And thank you, David.

1205
01:27:03,340 --> 01:27:07,700
 All right.

1206
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:09,500
 Next item, Brooke, are you ready?

1207
01:27:09,500 --> 01:27:10,500
 Yes, ma'am.

1208
01:27:10,500 --> 01:27:18,940
 So, just like the rest of Deepard, we have been on the pivot dance of trying to react

1209
01:27:18,940 --> 01:27:27,980
 appropriately to our community's needs, originally with COVID, and doing our bunny delivery service

1210
01:27:27,980 --> 01:27:35,820
 instead of a big party that everybody came to, to civil unrest, and acknowledging our

1211
01:27:35,820 --> 01:27:40,080
 anti-racist policies and efforts that we're moving forward.

1212
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:46,820
 And then trying to maintain fundraising and supporting people when it's a difficult time

1213
01:27:46,820 --> 01:27:48,540
 to ask for money.

1214
01:27:48,540 --> 01:27:54,980
 But we're really trying to take this time to take a step back in evaluating our processes

1215
01:27:54,980 --> 01:28:02,700
 as a nonprofit organization, evaluating them with all of our, instead of just smart goals,

1216
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:07,620
 smart e-goals, and making sure we're inclusive and equitable in the decisions that we make

1217
01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:14,860
 on that includes evaluating our board recruitment efforts, evaluating how we disperse our scholarships

1218
01:28:14,860 --> 01:28:20,220
 and funding towards the city, and making sure that we're collecting information so we truly

1219
01:28:20,220 --> 01:28:25,940
 know who we're serving, so we can make sure that we are serving our community as a whole.

1220
01:28:25,940 --> 01:28:30,380
 Of course, we're still working on the dog park, just added the first shade structure

1221
01:28:30,380 --> 01:28:36,540
 there, and we're taking efforts, thanks to Drew, of reaching out to Toy Yoda, have been

1222
01:28:36,540 --> 01:28:37,540
 reaching out to the guy.

1223
01:28:37,540 --> 01:28:43,100
 I'm this close to just showing up to Toy Yoda, just being like, "Hey, how are you?"

1224
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:46,780
 With masks on and everything, see if we can't negotiate something without me leaving with

1225
01:28:46,780 --> 01:28:49,580
 a car.

1226
01:28:49,580 --> 01:28:55,300
 And so that's really our main focus is the dog park, and then of course scholarships.

1227
01:28:55,300 --> 01:29:01,540
 And right now we're really trying to evaluate how do we, I can't fundraise for scholarships

1228
01:29:01,540 --> 01:29:06,700
 when nobody's getting them, how do we make sure that we have that funding readily available

1229
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:11,240
 when the time comes when we really need it, or do we utilize that funding to currently

1230
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:17,660
 meet the needs of people who maybe want those camp packs, but they can't afford the cost

1231
01:29:17,660 --> 01:29:23,140
 of it, and really reaching out to those areas that we know are most in need in providing

1232
01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:25,500
 those camp packs to them.

1233
01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:33,140
 Or a possibility of working with some mobile rec centers, so talking with Carolyn and Deena

1234
01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:38,460
 about that right now, making sure that we're serving that community in a safe way.

1235
01:29:38,460 --> 01:29:44,380
 And then Denton Women's Interracial Fellowship, we are jumping on with them as their fiscal

1236
01:29:44,380 --> 01:29:52,300
 partner, financial partner, and helping in fundraising for what could ultimately be a

1237
01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:57,060
 great art piece to memorialize the effort of these women, and it would be placed in

1238
01:29:57,060 --> 01:30:01,940
 a park facility or location.

1239
01:30:01,940 --> 01:30:08,060
 So that's one of the areas that we're also looking to fundraise for moving forward.

1240
01:30:08,060 --> 01:30:14,340
 And then, of course, just kind of keeping our focus on our advocacy volunteers' investment

1241
01:30:14,340 --> 01:30:19,940
 and just keeping those in the front and forward, making sure that as we're evaluating our calendar

1242
01:30:19,940 --> 01:30:27,060
 for 2020, 2021, that we're staying in line with those areas and what's most in need.

1243
01:30:27,060 --> 01:30:32,100
 I don't suspect, no, I know we're not going to have Splish Splash Doggy Bash.

1244
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:36,940
 I suspect we'll have other things that will certainly change in this fall, but our fundraising

1245
01:30:36,940 --> 01:30:38,220
 efforts will still be there.

1246
01:30:38,220 --> 01:30:44,740
 So right now, I'm just trying to get creative to see how we can provide that fundraising

1247
01:30:44,740 --> 01:30:47,860
 for our community moving forward.

1248
01:30:47,860 --> 01:30:53,900
 And then lastly, there was a lot to talk about why aren't parks offering hand sanitizer in

1249
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:56,700
 parks, because it's in need.

1250
01:30:56,700 --> 01:31:00,420
 I talked with Gary and talked to several people.

1251
01:31:00,420 --> 01:31:05,780
 Yes, it is in need clearly, and not everybody can afford it.

1252
01:31:05,780 --> 01:31:11,500
 And it really came down to our board and stakeholders of saying that's what we're not in the business

1253
01:31:11,500 --> 01:31:13,300
 of doing.

1254
01:31:13,300 --> 01:31:18,500
 However, we are in the business of doing good, and so we certainly can meet the needs of

1255
01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:23,180
 people who cannot afford that and may be providing park packs.

1256
01:31:23,180 --> 01:31:29,760
 So similarly, our family, Redheads, we always take sunscreen with us.

1257
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,460
 I don't have a sunscreen station at the park, and I never expect them to have it at the

1258
01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:34,460
 park.

1259
01:31:34,460 --> 01:31:37,260
 And it's just something I always have to have.

1260
01:31:37,260 --> 01:31:43,820
 So a thought that we had was developing park packs that we can give out to individuals

1261
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:46,580
 who can sign up for it for free.

1262
01:31:46,580 --> 01:31:50,820
 It's also a great opportunity to get people who maybe want to make a donation for one

1263
01:31:50,820 --> 01:31:56,280
 or want to buy these park packs for a number of individuals who need it, but essentially

1264
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:01,060
 offering them a mask, a water bottle, all the things that we know is going to keep somebody

1265
01:32:01,060 --> 01:32:04,140
 safe when they go to a playground.

1266
01:32:04,140 --> 01:32:07,380
 And just providing it for somebody who otherwise wouldn't have it.

1267
01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:10,380
 And that's honestly where we are right now.

1268
01:32:10,380 --> 01:32:14,820
 It's a lot of great ideas and just trying to get with the board to make sure that it's

1269
01:32:14,820 --> 01:32:20,100
 not a one-person show and managing expectations.

1270
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:25,920
 Just to add what Brooke had said, and I could have mentioned it in the COVID report, too,

1271
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:31,620
 there was a lot of discussion on what we should be doing or what we shouldn't be doing in

1272
01:32:31,620 --> 01:32:35,860
 regards to providing safety.

1273
01:32:35,860 --> 01:32:45,780
 It was a balance of budget, but not the primary reason, availability of products, the staff

1274
01:32:45,780 --> 01:32:55,060
 that would be available to constantly monitor the inventory and replace empty containers

1275
01:32:55,060 --> 01:32:57,740
 of hand sanitizer.

1276
01:32:57,740 --> 01:33:00,380
 Actually getting the product was another issue.

1277
01:33:00,380 --> 01:33:05,980
 Theft of the product, since it was kind of at high demand at that period of time, too,

1278
01:33:05,980 --> 01:33:11,540
 was all things that we looked at, and we decided that it would be easier based on the staffing

1279
01:33:11,540 --> 01:33:14,460
 that we have and the budget that we're dealing with.

1280
01:33:14,460 --> 01:33:20,180
 We were cutting budget, cutting staff, product was hard to find, that we would take the avenue

1281
01:33:20,180 --> 01:33:27,180
 of take the responsibility, bring your own with you, and take that.

1282
01:33:27,180 --> 01:33:33,100
 So that way, if it wasn't there or it was stolen, then we wouldn't be in a position

1283
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:36,100
 of not providing it when we said we weren't.

1284
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:40,060
 So that's been the direction that we've been taking.

1285
01:33:40,060 --> 01:33:47,420
 It may change down the road, but that's what we've been sticking to, and it seemed to work

1286
01:33:47,420 --> 01:33:48,420
 out.

1287
01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:53,180
 Ultimately, and I think Brooke and I talked about it, and suntan lotion, was that a good

1288
01:33:53,180 --> 01:33:56,540
 example, is when you know you're going to be out for an hour or two, you know you need

1289
01:33:56,540 --> 01:34:03,700
 to get the sunblock on, and hopefully people start treating hand sanitizer in the same

1290
01:34:03,700 --> 01:34:04,700
 fashion.

1291
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:11,020
 I'd like to just say I think that's a really smart decision you guys made.

1292
01:34:11,020 --> 01:34:15,860
 Not every need is meant to be filled by the parks board, right?

1293
01:34:15,860 --> 01:34:21,340
 So not denying that it's a need, but I can tell you even in the gym that I spend a lot

1294
01:34:21,340 --> 01:34:27,140
 of time in, that's fully staffed, we can't even keep hand sanitizer available there in

1295
01:34:27,140 --> 01:34:28,380
 such a controlled environment.

1296
01:34:28,380 --> 01:34:32,900
 I can't even imagine across all of the parks in the city what that would entail, and your

1297
01:34:32,900 --> 01:34:38,980
 point about it being removed without authority is valid, you know, especially when you don't

1298
01:34:38,980 --> 01:34:39,980
 have people on site.

1299
01:34:39,980 --> 01:34:43,980
 Yeah, the same thing was with the playgrounds too, are we going to go around and sanitize

1300
01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:44,980
 the playgrounds?

1301
01:34:44,980 --> 01:34:47,980
 You know, it's impossible to keep up with that.

1302
01:34:47,980 --> 01:34:52,260
 You know, we could, it would take us, I think Drew said, two people, three days, three or

1303
01:34:52,260 --> 01:34:56,580
 four days to go through the park system, and we have 28 playgrounds.

1304
01:34:56,580 --> 01:35:01,340
 They could be contaminated, you know, an hour after they were cleaned, so we didn't want

1305
01:35:01,340 --> 01:35:07,500
 to give anybody a false pretense that everything was safe, that when you go to use your parks,

1306
01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:12,980
 you have to take that responsibility and understand that there's a risk, you know, we try to minimize

1307
01:35:12,980 --> 01:35:18,540
 that risk as much as possible, but we can't make it 100% safe at all times.

1308
01:35:18,540 --> 01:35:19,540
 Well done.

1309
01:35:19,540 --> 01:35:27,660
 I have a question about sanitizing, doesn't, like the UV from the sun, do you all have

1310
01:35:27,660 --> 01:35:33,300
 like the data on how that sanitizes the equipment because I imagine it does, at least I tell

1311
01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:34,300
 myself.

1312
01:35:34,300 --> 01:35:39,940
 Yeah, so there was a lot of discussion about that before the summer, you know, that UV

1313
01:35:39,940 --> 01:35:44,960
 and then the heat was going to kill it, but you know, it looks like the south was, is

1314
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,820
 all spiking, you know, when it's the hottest.

1315
01:35:47,820 --> 01:35:51,980
 So I guess I'm not sure what the true answer that is.

1316
01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:56,200
 Obviously, there are some areas on playgrounds that aren't in the sun, you know, whether

1317
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,700
 it's inside a tube or under a shade structure that may not get that UV too.

1318
01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:06,180
 So you know, it just, you know, take the precautions with yourself and your family as best you

1319
01:36:06,180 --> 01:36:07,180
 can.

1320
01:36:07,180 --> 01:36:14,420
 If it's a concern, maybe it's not the best time to be out there, but ultimately leaving

1321
01:36:14,420 --> 01:36:22,740
 the decision to the users and trying to communicate our kind of policies and where we're at, at

1322
01:36:22,740 --> 01:36:23,740
 the time.

1323
01:36:23,740 --> 01:36:29,460
 I just have one more thing to add, we've been really enjoying all of the painted rocks at

1324
01:36:29,460 --> 01:36:30,940
 North Lakes Park.

1325
01:36:30,940 --> 01:36:34,580
 They're really, really great.

1326
01:36:34,580 --> 01:36:35,580
 They're fun.

1327
01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:40,060
 We've started making our own now and taking them out to the park.

1328
01:36:40,060 --> 01:36:41,500
 Yeah.

1329
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:44,540
 For any additional information.

1330
01:36:44,540 --> 01:36:45,540
 No, ma'am.

1331
01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:50,940
 The only other thing I was going to say an idea that was thrown out was, you know, there's

1332
01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:53,820
 little mini libraries throughout communities.

1333
01:36:53,820 --> 01:36:57,900
 The other idea was little mini park spots.

1334
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:04,660
 So if you had a house that was by a park and you wanted to provide sunscreen, wipes, you

1335
01:37:04,660 --> 01:37:09,100
 know, all the different things that people could use at a park, that could be another

1336
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:14,420
 grassroots effort of neighbors helping neighbors.

1337
01:37:14,420 --> 01:37:17,380
 But not really knowing kind of how long this will last.

1338
01:37:17,380 --> 01:37:22,420
 I think the little park packs are a better option.

1339
01:37:22,420 --> 01:37:24,460
 That's all I got for you.

1340
01:37:24,460 --> 01:37:25,460
 Okay.

1341
01:37:25,460 --> 01:37:26,460
 Thank you so much.

1342
01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:27,460
 Thank you.

1343
01:37:27,460 --> 01:37:34,220
 The last item at our last meeting, we had three things that we wanted information and

1344
01:37:34,220 --> 01:37:35,820
 we have received one.

1345
01:37:35,820 --> 01:37:40,180
 The first one was a temporary naming policy that has been completed.

1346
01:37:40,180 --> 01:37:45,860
 And then I think it was Atlanta that wanted the aquatic update and I think it was David

1347
01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:51,060
 that wanted the proposed free park property list.

1348
01:37:51,060 --> 01:37:58,380
 And I just wanted to remind the staff of those requests and if we can work those into the

1349
01:37:58,380 --> 01:38:03,420
 upcoming meetings and if there was anything we needed to add to the list.

1350
01:38:03,420 --> 01:38:04,780
 Yes, David.

1351
01:38:04,780 --> 01:38:11,460
 Yeah, I actually had emailed Gary about this a couple of months ago and it was just a it's

1352
01:38:11,460 --> 01:38:17,980
 a probably a touchy and sensitive subject that that talks that that touches other departments

1353
01:38:17,980 --> 01:38:19,320
 within the city.

1354
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,380
 But it certainly touches within the parks.

1355
01:38:21,380 --> 01:38:26,780
 So you know, we went out to use the frisbee golf course at North Lakes and I hadn't walked

1356
01:38:26,780 --> 01:38:29,800
 that thing in a long time.

1357
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:34,820
 And as we got around to the backside of the dam, there's there's a hole that's you know,

1358
01:38:34,820 --> 01:38:38,620
 the trees are cut back, it's cut back into the trees and the hole actually sits inside

1359
01:38:38,620 --> 01:38:42,020
 the trees, which is kind of a cool little place.

1360
01:38:42,020 --> 01:38:45,740
 But when you get back in there, you're right in the middle of somebody's kitchen and living

1361
01:38:45,740 --> 01:38:47,300
 room.

1362
01:38:47,300 --> 01:38:53,700
 And I felt like I was walking into somebody's house and almost didn't want to get our frisbee.

1363
01:38:53,700 --> 01:39:03,700
 And we were with, you know, a couple of girls who didn't feel safe at all in that environment.

1364
01:39:03,700 --> 01:39:11,080
 And so, you know, I certainly am not trying to demonize anybody who has has had to make

1365
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:14,460
 that choice to, you know, to live.

1366
01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:19,860
 But we need to figure out some kind of a balance that makes our parks safe.

1367
01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:24,420
 And and, you know, hopefully can work with the city to address that problem at the same

1368
01:39:24,420 --> 01:39:25,420
 time.

1369
01:39:25,420 --> 01:39:30,900
 But but it was, it definitely caught me off guard and you know, I'm not too bothered by

1370
01:39:30,900 --> 01:39:35,100
 too many situations, but I certainly felt uncomfortable and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone

1371
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:36,100
 in that.

1372
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:38,100
 So something to consider.

1373
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:44,220
 Are you wanting an update on that to be added to the list to the did you say the frisbee

1374
01:39:44,220 --> 01:39:45,220
 park?

1375
01:39:45,220 --> 01:39:49,540
 Yeah, it's the frisbee golf course and it's on the backside of the dam.

1376
01:39:49,540 --> 01:39:53,060
 I don't remember the specific hole, but I'm sure that these guys could tell you where

1377
01:39:53,060 --> 01:39:54,900
 I'm talking about.

1378
01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:58,140
 And I knew I know Gary was aware of it and you know, and his response at the time was

1379
01:39:58,140 --> 01:40:04,660
 appropriate that, you know, when when stuff hit things, priorities shifted a little bit

1380
01:40:04,660 --> 01:40:05,660
 on that.

1381
01:40:05,660 --> 01:40:11,660
 And so but but I think it's something for us to keep on the radar.

1382
01:40:11,660 --> 01:40:17,820
 Because I mean, I would never want my my kids being in an environment where I felt like

1383
01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:21,180
 their safety was in question, you know.

1384
01:40:21,180 --> 01:40:24,780
 So so David, I can shine a light on that.

1385
01:40:24,780 --> 01:40:30,840
 So we did have some areas that being one of them that we went through the complete process

1386
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:35,980
 of sending the outreach program or outreach individuals out to those areas, giving the

1387
01:40:35,980 --> 01:40:40,600
 provided necessities and care that needed to be given to those individuals and giving

1388
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:45,580
 them the option to be able to, you know, to get to reach those facilities or, you know,

1389
01:40:45,580 --> 01:40:47,300
 services that they needed.

1390
01:40:47,300 --> 01:40:52,020
 We went in completely cleared that area up, posted signage to make sure they knew that

1391
01:40:52,020 --> 01:40:54,940
 there's no camping allowed in the parks.

1392
01:40:54,940 --> 01:40:59,940
 And due to things that kind of happened during that time, I know that you saw them during,

1393
01:40:59,940 --> 01:41:05,740
 you know, when COVID first started happening, we brought up that issue with the police and

1394
01:41:05,740 --> 01:41:10,500
 with our outreach services, they've gone back out, the police are supposed to be removing

1395
01:41:10,500 --> 01:41:14,480
 them, making sure that they're removed very shortly, we'll go back and clean.

1396
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:21,940
 And then they have the authorization to issue citations and or trespassing, you know, trespassing

1397
01:41:21,940 --> 01:41:23,700
 to them as they continue to camp there.

1398
01:41:23,700 --> 01:41:31,740
 I would just say if it's not feasible to to keep that as a under under a little bit better

1399
01:41:31,740 --> 01:41:37,800
 control from a safety standpoint, I would almost recommend just rerouting that course

1400
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:43,780
 off of that because it's a it's a it's a weird clash of your I mean, when I say in somebody's

1401
01:41:43,780 --> 01:41:47,980
 living room, I mean, it was it was very, very well established, they had a netty box in there

1402
01:41:47,980 --> 01:41:52,060
 and all their all their camp stuff was on shelves. And I mean, it was not just

1403
01:41:52,060 --> 01:41:59,580
 Oh, no, I understand we, we see it and we were actually work with the disc golf, the

1404
01:41:59,580 --> 01:42:04,380
 two disc golf groups, and they redesigned the course and that's where they wanted it.

1405
01:42:04,380 --> 01:42:09,900
 And then, you know, under different circumstances, someone moved into that I think it's hole seven

1406
01:42:09,900 --> 01:42:15,340
 into that area. So they've they've contacted us and let us let us know about the same time

1407
01:42:15,340 --> 01:42:20,700
 you did that someone had moved in completely moved in where, you know, typically they were

1408
01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:24,380
 a little further back in the woods and weren't near one of the holes. So they didn't really

1409
01:42:24,380 --> 01:42:30,340
 cause any issues for disc golf players. But we are in in process of dealing with it at

1410
01:42:30,340 --> 01:42:31,340
 the moment.

1411
01:42:31,340 --> 01:42:34,980
 Okay. And I don't know if it's worth putting on a future agenda. I just wanted to bring

1412
01:42:34,980 --> 01:42:38,940
 it up to make sure there was awareness for it. And I don't, I certainly don't have a

1413
01:42:38,940 --> 01:42:41,340
 proposed solution. That's a complex problem. But

1414
01:42:41,340 --> 01:42:50,740
 Just just to add real quick, we have, I guess, 15 minutes, but so the interactions with with

1415
01:42:50,740 --> 01:42:58,540
 people experiencing homelessness is growing, we do have more of it in the park system.

1416
01:42:58,540 --> 01:43:03,860
 And truthfully, our staff are trained to deal with that, you know, we're becoming more and

1417
01:43:03,860 --> 01:43:10,940
 more social workers as well. So Laura has been working with United Way to create some

1418
01:43:10,940 --> 01:43:17,180
 training with with in partnership with United Way, so we can train our staff. So they know

1419
01:43:17,180 --> 01:43:22,660
 what to look for how to handle a situation that they come upon something, and what the

1420
01:43:22,660 --> 01:43:27,500
 right processes internally on how we're going to handle it. So it's something that we need

1421
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:34,540
 to work on as an organization, we realize that it's not something that's that's temporary.

1422
01:43:34,540 --> 01:43:39,100
 And it's a challenge that we all have to face. So it's something that we're trying to figure

1423
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:42,580
 out how to move on.

1424
01:43:42,580 --> 01:43:49,820
 Gary, oh, sorry, James. Sorry. Yeah, James.

1425
01:43:49,820 --> 01:44:00,860
 I just real quick to two issues. I had a met with some folks impromptu at at the, the Moor

1426
01:44:00,860 --> 01:44:10,780
 Park, and Fred, Fred Moor Park. And most of them were asking questions on they turned

1427
01:44:10,780 --> 01:44:15,900
 out the building was torn down. So asking me what the timeline of replacement building

1428
01:44:15,900 --> 01:44:20,900
 was, I guess that was their main, their main concern. And I want to share that with you

1429
01:44:20,900 --> 01:44:27,940
 and see if you have an answer for them. And number two is, I did have requests that there

1430
01:44:27,940 --> 01:44:36,380
 they had another. And we had another, we call grill, grill is none of grills there. There's

1431
01:44:36,380 --> 01:44:41,660
 only one grill that usually gets served up pretty quick. So they were asking for another

1432
01:44:41,660 --> 01:44:48,460
 grill. So just a little input. Using the two years and the one mouth that the good Lord

1433
01:44:48,460 --> 01:44:49,460
 gave me.

1434
01:44:49,460 --> 01:45:06,580
 Sorry, ALH is supposed to be completed early 2021, early 2021 that q1 or q2, it's supposed

1435
01:45:06,580 --> 01:45:11,220
 to be, technically, it's supposed to be like February, but they're, they're a little bit

1436
01:45:11,220 --> 01:45:14,380
 behind. So February, March ish.

1437
01:45:14,380 --> 01:45:23,900
 Okay. Thank you. So any feedback on the additional grills?

1438
01:45:23,900 --> 01:45:28,620
 That's something pretty basic. I don't think we can work through his team and

1439
01:45:28,620 --> 01:45:32,180
 Yeah, because we have we have several girls there Fred Warren, then we have that really

1440
01:45:32,180 --> 01:45:38,020
 large smoker. Okay, it's on site also. So we'll look at them. I don't know if any of lately

1441
01:45:38,020 --> 01:45:41,860
 if any have been carried off. But we'll we'll make sure that the ones that are supposed

1442
01:45:41,860 --> 01:45:46,700
 to be there, there, or see if we need to add any more city smoker. Is that actually somebody

1443
01:45:46,700 --> 01:45:51,140
 owns that? No, that this was purchased about four years

1444
01:45:51,140 --> 01:46:00,420
 ago. Okay, placed there for for public use. Wow. That was a community ask. And so it was

1445
01:46:00,420 --> 01:46:05,260
 put there about four or five years ago. Thank you, Drew. Yes. Thank you.

1446
01:46:05,260 --> 01:46:09,940
 Alana, you have a question. I just wanted to say don't worry about the aquatics update

1447
01:46:09,940 --> 01:46:15,740
 because I think we've been updated. It was sad, but you know, flexible fluid, whatever.

1448
01:46:15,740 --> 01:46:22,340
 Okay. I had two things that I would like to be brought up in future meetings. Just, I

1449
01:46:22,340 --> 01:46:30,220
 emailed Gary, and I think Francis about this, but I had an incident where I lost my children

1450
01:46:30,220 --> 01:46:35,380
 at North Lakes Park for like 20 minutes. And it was so scary because there's so much water

1451
01:46:35,380 --> 01:46:41,260
 there. And I didn't know what the protocol was. So I was just wondering if we could maybe

1452
01:46:41,260 --> 01:46:47,420
 it kind of goes with what David's ask is maybe like a safety kind of protocol thing. And

1453
01:46:47,420 --> 01:46:55,860
 there is the one I don't know if there needs to be like, education at the park somewhere

1454
01:46:55,860 --> 01:47:03,260
 like a sign like, if you lose your kid, this is what you can do. I don't know. I don't

1455
01:47:03,260 --> 01:47:07,020
 know the answer. I just something to think about and discuss and something that could

1456
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:12,460
 possibly make your parks better and maybe potentially keep a kid from drowning. I don't

1457
01:47:12,460 --> 01:47:17,180
 know. Like, I don't know if there's cameras. So that's just an idea. And then I was also

1458
01:47:17,180 --> 01:47:28,980
 I've had a request from sorry. I've had a request from someone in the community for

1459
01:47:28,980 --> 01:47:40,260
 an update on the IPM. So you want that to be added for? Yeah. Yeah, potentially the

1460
01:47:40,260 --> 01:47:46,740
 next meeting. Yes. And I have just on that. I've noticed like some of the mowing has like

1461
01:47:46,740 --> 01:47:50,580
 the grass has been getting longer in some areas. I personally like it. I think it looks

1462
01:47:50,580 --> 01:48:00,940
 good. Just throw that out there. Okay, any any additional items to be added for future

1463
01:48:00,940 --> 01:48:12,460
 meetings? Say hi. Brooke, are you waving your hand? Are you waving at the child? The child.

1464
01:48:12,460 --> 01:48:21,060
 Okay. Okay. Any additional concerns? Comments? All right, I need a motion to adjourn the

1465
01:48:21,060 --> 01:48:27,340
 meeting. I motion but also I just actually I do have one thing. Sorry. Oh, sorry. Sorry.

1466
01:48:27,340 --> 01:48:32,260
 Sorry. I just wanted to say thank you. Sorry. I know that I miss all of you guys. I don't

1467
01:48:32,260 --> 01:48:38,100
 know. I mean, I really do. I miss seeing all your beautiful little faces. And I just wanted

1468
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:42,180
 to say thanks. I know this has been really hard. I know cutting budgets is very difficult.

1469
01:48:42,180 --> 01:48:48,900
 And trying to keep people's jobs is important and hard and difficult and can be incredibly

1470
01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:53,740
 grueling and emotional. So I just wanted to say thank you guys so much for all your hard

1471
01:48:53,740 --> 01:48:57,260
 work. I know you guys have been strapped and things have been hard and people have been

1472
01:48:57,260 --> 01:49:02,620
 so angry. And I think people are forgetting to give grace right now to themselves and

1473
01:49:02,620 --> 01:49:06,700
 to others in a really difficult time. And we all should just you know, be thankful that

1474
01:49:06,700 --> 01:49:11,340
 we're alive and that we're healthy. So I just wanted to put that out there on the world

1475
01:49:11,340 --> 01:49:14,540
 and say thank you. I appreciate your time and your efforts. And I know you're working

1476
01:49:14,540 --> 01:49:18,860
 your butts off. And with that, I motion to end the meeting. Thank you, Francis.

1477
01:49:18,860 --> 01:49:30,300
 I need a second. Second. Okay. Eddie, you have that? All right. All in favor? Aye. Anyone

1478
01:49:30,300 --> 01:49:41,580
 opposed? Thank you, Danona. The ayes have it. Meeting is adjourned. Time is 221. Amen.