WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.040 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the planning and zoning commission work 00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:11.920 session meeting for June 3rd, 2020. 00:00:11.920 --> 00:00:17.480 Seeing that we do have a quorum, it is 5.04, I will call the meeting to order. 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:23.720 The first item on the agenda is just to go through the agenda items, so we can start 00:00:23.720 --> 00:00:28.480 with the consent agenda items, item three, A, B, and C. 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:35.080 Do you have any questions on these that we need a presentation for or clarification on? 00:00:35.080 --> 00:00:38.680 Yes, Commissioner Beck. 00:00:38.680 --> 00:00:42.040 Yes, thank you, Chair. 00:00:42.040 --> 00:01:02.600 Should I talk to Julie about 3B? 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:17.760 Sure. 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:24.380 The question about the gas well setbacks and distance from the two rows of homes is my 00:01:24.380 --> 00:01:25.380 question. 00:01:25.380 --> 00:01:26.380 Okay. 00:01:26.380 --> 00:01:42.680 Let me pull it up, that way we can all look at it. 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.820 So this is a final plot for unit 20 of Robeson Ranch. 00:01:45.820 --> 00:01:47.780 You are correct. 00:01:47.780 --> 00:01:53.040 There is a gas well site here, centrally located within the plot. 00:01:53.040 --> 00:02:01.200 It does meet the Robeson setbacks. 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:04.900 Robeson has different setbacks than the rest of the city. 00:02:04.900 --> 00:02:11.680 They were established in 2001 when that use was permitted within Robeson. 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:18.240 So residential uses do have to be set back 100 feet from the gas well. 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:23.960 These are the closest property to the gas well is about 122 feet from that gas well 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:25.080 the property line is. 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:34.360 So it does meet the minimum requirements. 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:41.960 Do you happen to have the distances from the gas wells for that Southeast row and the Northeast 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:42.960 row? 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:51.680 I can measure really quickly. 00:02:51.680 --> 00:03:07.880 The Northeast row is about 230 feet and the South, so it is about 230 feet from this area. 00:03:07.880 --> 00:03:09.760 And let me measure the next one. 00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:16.260 And I'm sort of presuming while you do that that the Western boundaries are farther away. 00:03:16.260 --> 00:03:18.720 They look farther away on the map. 00:03:18.720 --> 00:03:19.720 They are. 00:03:19.720 --> 00:03:33.360 And then the South is about 289 feet. 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:35.380 That was my question, Chair. 00:03:35.380 --> 00:03:36.380 Thank you. 00:03:36.380 --> 00:03:37.380 Okay, perfect. 00:03:37.380 --> 00:03:41.840 Does the plat for item 3B meets all the technical requirements? 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:43.920 Yes, sir, it does. 00:03:43.920 --> 00:03:44.920 Okay. 00:03:44.920 --> 00:03:47.200 Is there any other questions for item 3B? 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:49.440 All right. 00:03:49.440 --> 00:03:53.360 Let's go ahead and move to 3C and I'll turn the floor back over to Commissioner Beck. 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:54.360 Thank you, Chair. 00:03:54.360 --> 00:04:01.560 My question is real brief on that one, which I was just a little confused as to which guidelines 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:13.200 were under for that because they specify different dates and I wasn't sure whose guidelines we 00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:16.880 were following because of the different dates. 00:04:16.880 --> 00:04:19.400 Different dates. 00:04:19.400 --> 00:04:22.880 Maybe a little in terms of public notification. 00:04:22.880 --> 00:04:23.880 Is this for... 00:04:23.880 --> 00:04:24.880 No, I'm sorry. 00:04:24.880 --> 00:04:27.500 Which DDCs are they under? 00:04:27.500 --> 00:04:29.480 This would be under the 2019 DDC. 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:30.480 Okay. 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.160 So that's the extent of my question. 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:33.160 Great. 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:34.440 Thank you. 00:04:34.440 --> 00:04:40.640 Any other questions for this item, item 3C? 00:04:40.640 --> 00:04:45.000 And then just to clarify, no questions for item 3A. 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.820 Great. 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:51.800 Before we jump into the items for individual consideration, I just want to hop real fast 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:52.800 back to two. 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:53.840 Sorry to be out of order. 00:04:53.840 --> 00:05:01.240 Was there any questions or changes that need to be done to the minutes from May 20th? 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.000 Okay. 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:04.000 Look around. 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.000 Perfect. 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:13.360 Let's go back to item 4A, B, and C. And just a heads up, item 4A and 4B are looking for 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:14.360 an extension. 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:19.400 So we'll consider a motion there if it's possible in public hearing. 00:05:19.400 --> 00:05:26.600 And then item 4C, they have actually asked for, the applicant has asked for a postponement. 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:32.880 So during a public hearing, we can look to see what date the commission wants to move 00:05:32.880 --> 00:05:34.920 that item to potentially. 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.200 So with that, we'll go back to 4A. 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:41.280 I think it'd be appropriate if it's good with the commission to get a presentation and work 00:05:41.280 --> 00:05:43.020 session for these two items. 00:05:43.020 --> 00:05:48.760 And then in the public hearing, we might be able to skip the presentation and go to discussion 00:05:48.760 --> 00:05:51.960 of motion, or if we need to represent, we certainly will. 00:05:51.960 --> 00:06:01.840 But with that, Julie Wyatt, you have the floor for item 4A. 00:06:01.840 --> 00:06:10.760 Okay, sorry about the delay. 00:06:10.760 --> 00:06:12.520 So this is PP2011. 00:06:12.520 --> 00:06:15.400 I just have a short presentation just to talk about the plat. 00:06:15.400 --> 00:06:19.720 So this is a preliminary plat for a multifamily development. 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:20.720 You may remember it. 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:22.600 It was Oxford at Sherman. 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:29.040 This went before you last fall and it was approved by the city council for that use. 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:32.560 The SUP was approved in December of last year. 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:34.720 Now they're coming forward with the platting. 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.400 They do have some engineering issues to work through that are in your staff analysis. 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:42.960 So staff recommends denial because it doesn't meet the established requirements. 00:06:42.960 --> 00:06:48.320 However, they have requested an extension to the June 17th, 2020 agenda, and we have 00:06:48.320 --> 00:06:53.320 no opposition to that if that's what you choose to do. 00:06:53.320 --> 00:06:55.280 Great. 00:06:55.280 --> 00:07:02.120 Is there any questions for Julie on this item? 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:03.120 Christian or Bec? 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:04.120 Yeah. 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:05.120 Thank you, Chair. 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:16.400 Julie, I was just a little confused as to what -- can you refresh me on the qualifications 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:20.840 -- or not qualifications, the reasons for denial on that one? 00:07:20.840 --> 00:07:21.840 Sure. 00:07:21.840 --> 00:07:24.040 Well, there are quite a few. 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.760 There are -- I'll kind of start at the -- Wait. 00:07:26.760 --> 00:07:27.760 Hold on, Julie. 00:07:27.760 --> 00:07:29.120 I'm sorry to interrupt. 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.200 Maybe I'm confusing myself. 00:07:30.200 --> 00:07:33.240 Let me look at my notes here real quick. 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.520 Okay, actually, no, no, I did confuse myself. 00:07:36.520 --> 00:07:37.520 I'm sorry, Julie. 00:07:37.520 --> 00:07:38.520 I don't -- I'm good. 00:07:38.520 --> 00:07:39.520 I'm good. 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:40.520 Thank you. 00:07:40.520 --> 00:07:41.520 Right. 00:07:41.520 --> 00:07:48.200 Any other questions for Julie on item 4A? 00:07:48.200 --> 00:07:50.840 Great. 00:07:50.840 --> 00:07:53.920 Let's move on to item 4B. 00:07:53.920 --> 00:08:12.000 This is Haley Zagorski's presentation. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.000 She's pulling it up now. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:14.000 Perfect. 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:25.000 Okay. 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:45.800 Thank you. 00:08:45.800 --> 00:08:46.800 Is she speaking, Richard? 00:08:46.800 --> 00:08:47.800 I'm sure I'm muted. 00:08:47.800 --> 00:08:50.440 I'm picking up from a different mic. 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:56.800 I think it's muted. 00:08:56.800 --> 00:08:57.800 Is that better? 00:08:57.800 --> 00:08:58.800 That is much better. 00:08:58.800 --> 00:08:59.800 Hi, Haley. 00:08:59.800 --> 00:09:00.800 Oh, sorry about that. 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:04.600 Yeah, so this is a preliminary plan for a future DPS facility. 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:09.880 It's a single lot located at the southeast corner of East McKinney Street in Mayhill. 00:09:09.880 --> 00:09:13.140 At this time, staff is recommending denial because it fails to meet all the technical 00:09:13.140 --> 00:09:15.360 requirements for engineering. 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.520 They are very confident that they can work through all of those and have therefore requested 00:09:18.520 --> 00:09:23.340 the extension to the June 17th meeting to give them a chance to resolve those final 00:09:23.340 --> 00:09:24.760 issues. 00:09:24.760 --> 00:09:27.920 Okay, great. 00:09:27.920 --> 00:09:29.880 Any questions for Haley on this? 00:09:29.880 --> 00:09:30.880 Commissioner Beck? 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:32.520 Yeah, I'm sorry, Chair. 00:09:32.520 --> 00:09:35.760 This is the one I had some just confusion on. 00:09:35.760 --> 00:09:36.760 Sure. 00:09:36.760 --> 00:09:47.280 So, Haley, can you, can you, there's, the city wanted a more complete flood plan, flood 00:09:47.280 --> 00:09:50.980 plan plan, I got to get that in the right order. 00:09:50.980 --> 00:09:51.980 And there was an issue. 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:59.080 I mean, can you, can you highlight the salient points on, on, on where they were lacking? 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.080 I was just a little confused. 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:02.080 Sure. 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.840 So there, there is a tiny amount of floodplain on the property. 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:12.020 Let me share this so that I can maybe call out that area for you. 00:10:12.020 --> 00:10:16.480 So here in the very southern part of the property, there is some floodplain that affects this. 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.360 So there, there's a change that needs to be made to their easement. 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:25.440 I believe they have to, the code requires them to dedicate a 15 foot drainage easement 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:26.940 outside the boundaries of that floodplain. 00:10:26.940 --> 00:10:31.580 So they're working to, to resolve that and make sure they have those boundaries correct. 00:10:31.580 --> 00:10:35.440 And then they're still working with the city on this northern part of the property regarding 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:38.880 some drainage easements that are necessary for the East McKinney Street improvements 00:10:38.880 --> 00:10:40.580 that will be coming up. 00:10:40.580 --> 00:10:45.680 So those were kind of the highlights of their, their floodplain and drainage issues. 00:10:45.680 --> 00:10:52.080 Do you know for the sort of course desire, this is, this is mostly going to be sort of 00:10:52.080 --> 00:11:00.420 a cemented over practice area for DPS training with a small office. 00:11:00.420 --> 00:11:02.520 Is that the concept? 00:11:02.520 --> 00:11:07.560 This would be a DPS facility for driver's license testing for, I believe just standard 00:11:07.560 --> 00:11:13.600 licenses as well as commercial in terms of their, their coverage on the site, roughly 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.080 in line with, with this corner of the property, their, their development kind of cuts across 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:19.080 here. 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.480 This portion of the property would not be affected by their development and it's just 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.520 a part of the tract of land that they're purchasing. 00:11:25.520 --> 00:11:30.640 So this area is intended to be impervious as well as much of this corner up here where 00:11:30.640 --> 00:11:32.860 they'll be dedicating those drainage easements. 00:11:32.860 --> 00:11:36.040 So they'll be concentrated largely in the middle of the site here and then on this Northeast 00:11:36.040 --> 00:11:37.040 corner. 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:38.040 Okay. 00:11:38.040 --> 00:11:39.040 Thank you so much. 00:11:39.040 --> 00:11:41.040 I appreciate it. 00:11:41.040 --> 00:11:46.980 Is there any other questions for Haley on this item? 00:11:46.980 --> 00:11:49.800 Great. 00:11:49.800 --> 00:11:51.020 Thank you very much, Haley. 00:11:51.020 --> 00:12:00.400 That brings us to our next item 4C is the Sagebrook PD 20-0001D. 00:12:00.400 --> 00:12:03.520 In my estimation, this is going to be brought back for the presentation on the engineering 00:12:03.520 --> 00:12:05.080 and the road. 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:09.760 So I would think presenting now would not be as helpful as to present later. 00:12:09.760 --> 00:12:15.560 Is there any disagreement or is anyone wanting the full presentation tonight prior to hearing 00:12:15.560 --> 00:12:18.200 it and then a couple of weeks or a month? 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:19.200 Commissioner Anderson. 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:20.200 Thanks, Chair. 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.120 They are working on rerouting the road. 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.580 Is that correct? 00:12:24.580 --> 00:12:29.160 They have actually drawn a rerouting that was in the backup for this evening. 00:12:29.160 --> 00:12:34.680 The applicant, I think the applicant's asking for two weeks to relook at it. 00:12:34.680 --> 00:12:39.960 The neighbor has actually, I think you received that letter, asked for a month postponement. 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:45.400 So they have drafted the new road and that's kind of the sticking point from our discussion 00:12:45.400 --> 00:12:46.400 last month. 00:12:46.400 --> 00:12:47.400 Yeah, I agree. 00:12:47.400 --> 00:12:50.720 I have no reason to see the presentation if it's all going to be changed. 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:51.720 So I agree. 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:52.720 Thank you. 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:53.720 Commissioner Anderson. 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:54.720 Commissioner Beck. 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.040 Thank you, Chair. 00:12:58.040 --> 00:13:04.680 I don't really need to see it except and unless is the staff going to highlight the differences 00:13:04.680 --> 00:13:07.400 between the old plan and the new plan? 00:13:07.400 --> 00:13:12.440 Because as I read the plans, it was a little unclear to me exactly where the shift was 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:13.440 occurring. 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:15.120 Is that going to be discussed tonight? 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:22.000 I mean, it could be discussed tonight, but my recommendation is wait until the presentation. 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:23.840 That would be fine, Chair. 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.120 The timing of it is fine. 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:32.440 I just want to make sure that that shift is discussed tonight. 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.000 You want to discuss that? 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:35.000 I don't need it now. 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:40.560 If staff is going to sort of highlight those changes or is willing to by tonight highlight 00:13:40.560 --> 00:13:43.720 those changes, then I absolutely wouldn't need anything right now. 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:47.080 I just want to make sure that they highlight those changes because it's a little unclear 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:48.080 to me. 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:49.080 Right. 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.560 And I guess what I'm trying to communicate is that could change based on the applicant 00:13:52.560 --> 00:13:55.140 working with a neighbor before coming back. 00:13:55.140 --> 00:14:00.160 I mean, my thought just wait till that's more finalized and hear that comparison, then hear 00:14:00.160 --> 00:14:06.940 one tonight that's just now going to get shifted to another potential plan in two weeks. 00:14:06.940 --> 00:14:07.940 But I defer to you. 00:14:07.940 --> 00:14:13.500 I defer to the commission if they want to hear the interim comparison before more final 00:14:13.500 --> 00:14:14.500 plan comes. 00:14:14.500 --> 00:14:18.400 I mean, I take the Chair's point. 00:14:18.400 --> 00:14:21.760 It really only behooves us to evaluate the final. 00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:30.800 But in terms of figuring out the final, the meaningfulness of the final plan, I think 00:14:30.800 --> 00:14:38.320 the city and the other parties obviously at some point thought this plan that's on the 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:43.000 original agenda was potentially reasonable. 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:50.880 And so any future plan would anyway, I wouldn't mind then if we don't want to discuss it tonight, 00:14:50.880 --> 00:14:58.040 we have a very brief, like even just the maps and just show where the shifts are. 00:14:58.040 --> 00:15:02.920 And that's all I really need is, is a sort of a highlight of the ships. 00:15:02.920 --> 00:15:08.520 I don't need a full presentation, especially if it's not the final plan that we'll expect 00:15:08.520 --> 00:15:11.360 to see in a couple of weeks. 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:12.360 Point taken. 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:13.360 Commissioner Bec. 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.000 Commissioner Ellis. 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:17.800 Thank you, Chair. 00:15:17.800 --> 00:15:22.200 I don't see us seeing a presentation that is kind of hypothetical. 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:29.320 If they really aren't ready to present whatever the changes are, then I would think we're 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:31.760 wasting our time. 00:15:31.760 --> 00:15:32.760 That would be my thought. 00:15:32.760 --> 00:15:36.600 I'm seeing a presentation because if we're going to see it again in two weeks, we kind 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:40.400 of really want to see what it is that they're presenting, right? 00:15:40.400 --> 00:15:42.440 Commissioner Ellis, I agree. 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:47.920 For the sake of the benefit of all commissioners, though, and to Commissioner Bec's point, is 00:15:47.920 --> 00:15:55.080 it possible for Haley just to simply pull up the road slide and just articulate where 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.960 the current shift in the road is? 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:01.640 No full presentation this evening, but for the benefit of Commissioner Bec, we can just 00:16:01.640 --> 00:16:06.320 take a look at that shift because I think from my looking, it moves it away from running 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:10.480 into that shed and moves it a little bit north of the shed, but I think Haley can clarify 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.400 and we can keep it pretty brief. 00:16:13.400 --> 00:16:14.680 She's pulling it up now. 00:16:14.680 --> 00:16:15.680 Great. 00:16:15.680 --> 00:16:16.680 Thank you. 00:16:16.680 --> 00:16:17.680 Thank you, Chair. 00:16:17.680 --> 00:16:22.640 That's exactly what I needed. 00:16:22.640 --> 00:16:26.160 All right. 00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:28.360 This is the original plan that we looked at. 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:33.920 You notice here the road is kind of aligned directly with the barn. 00:16:33.920 --> 00:16:35.480 This is their revised plan. 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:40.360 I believe this measurement from the road to the barn is about 100 feet from the corner 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:42.520 here to the edge. 00:16:42.520 --> 00:16:45.480 They shifted the road slightly north. 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:50.040 Roughly along this faint dash line here, you can see some additional green space north 00:16:50.040 --> 00:16:51.040 of that. 00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:56.280 That is the difference in open space that would be dedicated with this revised plan 00:16:56.280 --> 00:17:02.320 that did result in some of the lots here on the west side of the property being shifted. 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:08.080 You'll notice there the amenity center shifted a little bit to the northeast and some additional 00:17:08.080 --> 00:17:12.680 homes were added in what was formerly open space to compensate for the homes that were 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:14.880 lost on this side of the property. 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.440 But overall, the road is largely the same for the majority of the alignment. 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:23.760 The major shift comes here where they tightened this angle, I believe, from about 1,000 foot 00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:26.440 radius was on that curve originally. 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.240 Now it's right at the minimum acceptable radius of 750. 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:37.440 So they shifted that north just to miss the barn by about 100 feet. 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:39.160 Mr. Beck? 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:40.520 That's exactly what I needed. 00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:42.080 Thank you very much, Haley. 00:17:42.080 --> 00:17:43.080 Perfect. 00:17:43.080 --> 00:17:45.120 Thank you, Haley. 00:17:45.120 --> 00:17:48.840 So with that, that concludes our agenda for this evening. 00:17:48.840 --> 00:17:51.840 I will close the work session at 521. 00:17:51.840 --> 00:18:00.720 We'll reconvene back here on this Zoom line at 630 for the regular meeting. 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:04.760 Thank you. 00:18:04.760 --> 00:18:08.140 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Planning and Zoning Regular Session 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:11.760 Meeting for Wednesday, June 3, 2020. 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:16.720 Seeing that we do have a quorum, I'll call this meeting to order at 631. 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:23.560 The first item of business is to say the US flag pledge and the Texas flag. 00:18:23.560 --> 00:18:27.200 Commissioners, if you would like, you can certainly unmute yourself to join with me 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.860 in the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag. 00:18:30.860 --> 00:18:36.880 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:47.040 which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:18:47.040 --> 00:18:48.960 Honor the Texas flag. 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:54.960 I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible. 00:18:54.960 --> 00:19:00.480 Oh, perfect, guys, that went off without a hitch. 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:06.520 Next item of business is item two, the approval or consideration of the minutes from May 20th, 00:19:06.520 --> 00:19:07.520 2020. 00:19:07.520 --> 00:19:08.520 Commissioner Anderson. 00:19:08.520 --> 00:19:10.320 I make a motion to approve. 00:19:10.320 --> 00:19:12.240 We have a first for approval. 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.240 Commissioner Pernetta. 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:14.240 Second. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.240 We have a first and a second for approval. 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.320 Any notation or changes to the minutes? 00:19:19.320 --> 00:19:22.000 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote via roll call. 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:23.000 Commissioner Ellis. 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:24.000 Aye. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 Commissioner Cole. 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.000 Aye. 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:27.000 Commissioner Anderson. 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.000 Aye. 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:29.000 Commissioner Smith. 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.000 Aye. 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:31.000 Commissioner Bec. 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:32.000 Aye. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.000 Commissioner Pernetta. 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.000 Aye. 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:38.040 Chair is also an aye. 00:19:38.040 --> 00:19:39.040 Motion carries 7-0. 00:19:39.040 --> 00:19:46.200 The next item of business is consideration of the consent agenda, items 3A, B and C. 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:47.200 Commissioner Ellis. 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:48.200 I move approval. 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.240 We have a first for approval. 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:51.240 Commissioner Smith. 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:52.240 I second. 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:58.000 We have a first and a second for approval of the consent agenda. 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:01.160 Any discussion on this item? 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.360 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote via roll call. 00:20:03.360 --> 00:20:04.360 Commissioner Ellis. 00:20:04.360 --> 00:20:05.360 Aye. 00:20:05.360 --> 00:20:06.360 Commissioner Cole. 00:20:06.360 --> 00:20:07.360 Aye. 00:20:07.360 --> 00:20:08.360 Commissioner Anderson. 00:20:08.360 --> 00:20:09.360 Aye. 00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:10.360 Commissioner Bec. 00:20:10.360 --> 00:20:11.360 Aye. 00:20:11.360 --> 00:20:12.360 Commissioner Pernetta. 00:20:12.360 --> 00:20:13.360 Aye. 00:20:13.360 --> 00:20:14.360 Commissioner Smith. 00:20:14.360 --> 00:20:15.360 Aye. 00:20:15.360 --> 00:20:19.400 Chair is also an aye. 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:21.800 Motion carries 7-0. 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:27.880 The next item of business is 4A, PP20-0011. 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:33.000 This item staff recommends denial, however the applicant has requested an extension to 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:36.320 the June 17th meeting. 00:20:36.320 --> 00:20:37.320 Commissioner Smith. 00:20:37.320 --> 00:20:41.720 I motion to continue to the June 17th meeting. 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.760 We have a first to postpone this to a date certain of June 17th. 00:20:44.760 --> 00:20:45.760 Commissioner Bec. 00:20:45.760 --> 00:20:46.760 I second. 00:20:46.760 --> 00:20:51.960 We have a first and a second for postponement to a date certain of June 17th, 2020. 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.080 Any discussion on this? 00:20:55.080 --> 00:20:58.400 Seeing none, I will call for a vote via roll call. 00:20:58.400 --> 00:20:59.400 Commissioner Ellis. 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:00.400 Aye. 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:01.400 Commissioner Cole. 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:02.400 Aye. 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.400 Commissioner Anderson. 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:04.400 Aye. 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:05.400 Commissioner Bec. 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:06.400 Aye. 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:07.400 Commissioner Pernetta. 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:08.400 Aye. 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:09.400 Commissioner Smith. 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:10.400 Aye. 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:19.600 And the chair is also an aye, vote carries 7-0. 00:21:19.600 --> 00:21:25.120 The next item is item 4B, PP20-0010. 00:21:25.120 --> 00:21:27.840 This item was recommended for denial by staff. 00:21:27.840 --> 00:21:32.040 The applicant is requesting an extension to a date certain of June 17th, 2020. 00:21:32.040 --> 00:21:33.040 Commissioner Anderson. 00:21:33.040 --> 00:21:38.720 I make a motion to approve the extension to the date that you just stated. 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:39.720 June 17th. 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:40.720 Yes. 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:41.840 We have a first for approval. 00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:42.840 Commissioner Smith. 00:21:42.840 --> 00:21:43.840 Second. 00:21:43.840 --> 00:21:45.600 We have a first and a second for approval. 00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:48.300 Any discussion on this item? 00:21:48.300 --> 00:21:50.920 Seeing none, I will call for a vote via roll call. 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:51.920 Commissioner Ellis. 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:52.920 Aye. 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:53.920 Commissioner Cole. 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:54.920 Aye. 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:55.920 Commissioner Anderson. 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:56.920 Aye. 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:57.920 Commissioner Bec. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:58.920 Aye. 00:21:58.920 --> 00:21:59.920 Commissioner Pernetta. 00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:00.920 Aye. 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:01.920 Commissioner Smith. 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:02.920 Aye. 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:08.480 And the chair is also an aye, vote carries 7-0. 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:17.160 The next item on the agenda is item 4C, PD20-0001D. 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:24.760 This item has been requested to be postponed until June 17th by the applicant. 00:22:24.760 --> 00:22:29.360 We do have some public comment on this, and so I'm going to read this real fast and we'll 00:22:29.360 --> 00:22:32.880 go to some individuals holding on the phone. 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.760 For this item, we had one person make comments using the online form. 00:22:36.760 --> 00:22:39.760 There is one in support and zero against. 00:22:39.760 --> 00:22:44.240 All of these comments forms were emailed to all commissioners and our city secretary to 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:45.720 be recorded. 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.200 There is no one who called in to register their position through the phone prior to 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:50.200 this meeting. 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:55.120 Finally, there are three individuals who requested to speak over the phone on this item. 00:22:55.120 --> 00:23:16.640 Both will be connecting to them now for the first individual. 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:20.880 We're just waiting for that to be patched through. 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:38.600 Can someone unmute the phone line? 00:23:38.600 --> 00:23:39.600 Good evening. 00:23:39.600 --> 00:23:40.600 Are you there? 00:23:40.600 --> 00:23:41.600 Caller? 00:23:41.600 --> 00:23:42.600 Yes. 00:23:42.600 --> 00:23:43.600 Yes, I am here. 00:23:43.600 --> 00:23:44.600 Okay. 00:23:44.600 --> 00:23:45.600 Well, you're live with the Planning and Zoning Commission. 00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:49.240 In just a minute, I'm going to have you state your name and you have three minutes to begin. 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:53.760 Just so you're aware, there is no presentation on this item tonight as it's being sought 00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:58.280 after for a postponement to a date of June 17th, but we certainly, if you would like 00:23:58.280 --> 00:24:03.400 to make your comments this evening, you certainly are able to, or when this item comes back, 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:08.640 you can make those your concerns known at that time, but tonight we're looking to postpone 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:09.640 the item. 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.680 However, you do have three minutes to speak if you just state your name and address for 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:13.680 the record. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:23.440 Certainly, the name is Ray Ojewski, the address is 201 Main Street, Fort Worth, Texas, 76102. 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:28.600 Representing the adjacent property owner to the applicant to this case, Mr. Chairman and 00:24:28.600 --> 00:24:33.280 members of the commission, the only comment I would have is that the date the case is 00:24:33.280 --> 00:24:36.640 being continued to is June 17th. 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:44.080 I had advised the applicant earlier today that I am out of town on a vacation that week, 00:24:44.080 --> 00:24:51.200 and I previously requested a 30 day continuance for additional time for my client and the 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:57.640 applicant and city staff to get together and talk about the concerns of my client. 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:04.840 So while I understand there is a motion to continue to June 17th, I respectfully request 00:25:04.840 --> 00:25:11.080 that that go to the July, the first July meeting that the commission will hold. 00:25:11.080 --> 00:25:16.660 So in the event that we don't work something out by June 17th, then we won't have to come 00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:21.600 back and ask for another continuance because I will be on vacation that week. 00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:25.760 And with that, I will conclude my comments and be happy to answer any questions. 00:25:25.760 --> 00:25:28.400 Well, I appreciate you being here this evening. 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:33.080 Does any commissioners have any questions for council? 00:25:33.080 --> 00:25:38.080 I do not see any at this time, but I appreciate you calling in and your statement has been 00:25:38.080 --> 00:25:43.520 noted that you'd like to do seek a postponement to the first meeting in July, which I have 00:25:43.520 --> 00:25:45.800 as July 8th on my calendar. 00:25:45.800 --> 00:25:47.160 Okay, very good. 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:48.160 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:49.740 I appreciate the time tonight. 00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:51.300 Thank you very much. 00:25:51.300 --> 00:25:53.480 We do have another caller. 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:59.520 Okay, just one second here. 00:25:59.520 --> 00:26:11.200 The other individuals on the line, one was was declined to speak now and the other one 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:12.200 is unreachable. 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.600 We've we've attempted five times to reach that individual. 00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:20.760 I believe they did submit comment on the item, but we're unable to reach them to be a phone. 00:26:20.760 --> 00:26:23.240 So at this time, it's not a public hearing, it's an individual consideration. 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:28.160 So the chair will certainly entertain a motion discussion about Commissioner Smith, make 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:33.360 a motion to postpone until the date certain of July 8th of 2020. 00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:35.960 We have a first postpone till date of July 8th. 00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:43.840 Richard, can you confirm that is the date and my calendar is correct, July 8th. 00:26:43.840 --> 00:26:44.840 That's what I have. 00:26:44.840 --> 00:26:54.880 I'm confirming with Kathy now that is the published date, July 8th. 00:26:54.880 --> 00:27:00.440 We have a first for postponing to July 8th. 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:06.640 Is there a second question for a second, we have a first and a second for postponement 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.840 to July 8th. 00:27:08.840 --> 00:27:12.280 I'm not sure protocol here, but we did reach the individual on the line. 00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:15.840 And so before we take a vote, I'd like to use the opportunity of discussion just to 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:19.600 provide that citizen the opportunity to speak. 00:27:19.600 --> 00:27:21.080 Can we get him patched through? 00:27:21.080 --> 00:27:27.120 I can still hear you, Mr. Turner, if you can hear me. 00:27:27.120 --> 00:27:31.520 I can still hear you, but we'll see what we can do to mute you. 00:27:31.520 --> 00:27:35.680 Hello, is this Mr. Pruitt? 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:36.680 It is. 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:40.160 Mr. Pruitt, I appreciate you holding and being available this evening. 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.720 You are live with the Planning and Zoning Commission now on our Zoom call. 00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:47.600 Just so you're aware, you are provided three minutes to speak tonight and we'll certainly 00:27:47.600 --> 00:27:48.600 honor that. 00:27:48.600 --> 00:27:52.880 However, while we were trying to get a hold of you, there was a motion and a second on 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:57.800 the floor to postpone this item to a date certain of July 8th. 00:27:57.800 --> 00:28:00.480 So we have a first and a second, we're in discussion on that, but we wanted to give 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:01.480 you the opportunity to speak. 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.720 I just wanted you to be aware that we did not have a presentation on this tonight. 00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:10.040 And there is a motion to postpone this if you'd like to come back on July 8th and speak. 00:28:10.040 --> 00:28:14.560 That being said, you can state your full name and address and we'll provide you your three 00:28:14.560 --> 00:28:15.560 minutes this evening. 00:28:15.560 --> 00:28:21.560 Good opportunity, this is Eric Pruitt, 2111 Westwood Drive. 00:28:21.560 --> 00:28:27.480 I want to thank staff for including in backups the economic impact analysis provided by the 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.160 developer last year as part of the annexation application. 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:38.060 But careful planning requires careful fiscal analysis and this looks more like marketing 00:28:38.060 --> 00:28:42.920 material focused on the one-time benefits rather than a careful analysis of long-term 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.040 revenues and liabilities. 00:28:45.040 --> 00:28:54.440 This slide that showed a net positive impact used the 2019 fiscal year tax rate of 62 cents 00:28:54.440 --> 00:29:02.040 and when you use the current proposed 2021 fiscal year rate of 59.6 cents that cuts that 00:29:02.040 --> 00:29:04.680 benefit almost in half. 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:11.440 But even then, the analysis seems over optimistic to me because it uses an average annual cost 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:19.360 for new population value, which assumes each resident in the city costs the same amount. 00:29:19.360 --> 00:29:23.900 But many infrastructure and maintenance costs are not related to the number of residents, 00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:30.640 but rather the length and the amount of infrastructure to serve that community, roads, pipes, loose 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:31.640 station. 00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:36.000 Average cost accounting underestimates public costs in developments like this and overestimates 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.480 costs in more efficient development styles. 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:44.120 The public costs of this development are likely much higher and would make this development 00:29:44.120 --> 00:29:45.120 physically negative. 00:29:45.120 --> 00:29:47.420 This is not a radical thought. 00:29:47.420 --> 00:29:53.240 Our city manager has even said, quote, "There is not a residential subdivision built that 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.800 stands on its own, zero," end quote. 00:29:56.800 --> 00:30:00.600 Yet this analysis claims this subdivision does just that. 00:30:00.600 --> 00:30:05.700 We need better metrics and clear fiscal goals if we are to ensure development in Denton 00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:09.960 follows our long range plan and doesn't raise our tax burden in the future. 00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:13.600 If you want to subsidize the future residents of Sagebrook with higher taxes from other 00:30:13.600 --> 00:30:16.720 areas of the city, that's your prerogative. 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:23.040 But Institute's sound metrics and a fiscal analysis process today, one that uses an accurate 00:30:23.040 --> 00:30:26.280 accounting of costs based on the type of development. 00:30:26.280 --> 00:30:30.840 We must stop lying to ourselves claiming all development pays enough taxes to sustain itself 00:30:30.840 --> 00:30:32.720 when we know it does not. 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.360 I'm not trying to be unreasonable and say that you must deny this particular application. 00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:41.760 But if you approve 10 more like this without establishing a practice of realistic long-term 00:30:41.760 --> 00:30:47.600 fiscal analysis, we have a systemic problem that will likely result in higher taxes to 00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:49.360 future taxpayers. 00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:50.360 Thank you. 00:30:50.360 --> 00:30:54.000 Mr. Prud, I appreciate you adding your input. 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.000 Thank you. 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.760 And if just a heads up, if this vote carries to postpone, we certainly invite you back 00:30:58.760 --> 00:31:02.280 at that meeting to speak once again your comments. 00:31:02.280 --> 00:31:04.480 Thank you for this evening. 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:05.480 Thank you. 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.680 Uh, back to the discussion on the item. 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.920 We had a first and a second, uh, someone just get patched through. 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:13.920 Nope. 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:18.560 We had a first and a second for, uh, postponements who date certain of July 8th. 00:31:18.560 --> 00:31:22.000 Is there any other discussion on this item? 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.640 Commissioner Ellis. 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:25.640 Thank you, chair. 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.680 Is the applicant with us on the call or no? 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.800 I don't see the applicant on the phone. 00:31:33.800 --> 00:31:34.800 Okay. 00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:35.800 Okay. 00:31:35.800 --> 00:31:36.800 I was just curious, just cause they. 00:31:36.800 --> 00:31:37.800 Yes. 00:31:37.800 --> 00:31:38.920 Oh, the applicant is on the phone. 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:49.640 Just as far as your thoughts on, on postponing to the 8th of July. 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:50.640 Hi there. 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:57.520 This is the applicant, Randi Rivera with McAdams, um, to answer your question about the postponement. 00:31:57.520 --> 00:31:58.520 Is that correct? 00:31:58.520 --> 00:31:59.520 Yes, correct. 00:31:59.520 --> 00:32:00.520 Okay. 00:32:00.520 --> 00:32:08.840 Um, yes, our client, uh, Zaina has been in discussion with the council obtained by the 00:32:08.840 --> 00:32:10.440 neighbor to the West. 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.960 Um, and they've corresponded throughout, um, the last week, uh, with the changes that we've 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:23.960 made and, um, we, we felt like we've made a good attempt on, uh, reducing the impact 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:29.040 and that's in your packet, uh, that, uh, that is before you tonight. 00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:35.160 And if, uh, the commission deemed it necessary to postpone it to July 8th, we are in support 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:40.960 of that and look forward to coming back July 8th, um, to, to present the details of the 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.600 changes to the plan that we presented to you a month ago. 00:32:44.600 --> 00:32:45.600 Okay. 00:32:45.600 --> 00:32:51.480 And the goal is to continue, um, discussion with the adjacent property owner in that timeframe. 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.440 Yes, ma'am. 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.760 There has been a request to set up a meeting as early as, uh, the end of this week or the 00:32:58.760 --> 00:33:00.280 beginning of next week. 00:33:00.280 --> 00:33:01.280 Okay. 00:33:01.280 --> 00:33:02.280 All right. 00:33:02.280 --> 00:33:03.280 That's great. 00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:05.520 Thank you for answering my questions. 00:33:05.520 --> 00:33:07.600 Thank you. 00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:10.600 Any other discussion on this item? 00:33:10.600 --> 00:33:17.320 Seeing none, I will call for a vote to postpone this to a date certain of July 8th via roll 00:33:17.320 --> 00:33:18.320 call. 00:33:18.320 --> 00:33:19.320 Commissioner Ellis. 00:33:19.320 --> 00:33:20.320 Aye. 00:33:20.320 --> 00:33:21.320 Commissioner Cole. 00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:22.320 Aye. 00:33:22.320 --> 00:33:23.320 Commissioner Anderson. 00:33:23.320 --> 00:33:24.320 Aye. 00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:25.320 Commissioner Beck. 00:33:25.320 --> 00:33:26.320 Aye. 00:33:26.320 --> 00:33:29.320 Commissioner Pernetta. 00:33:29.320 --> 00:33:30.320 Aye. 00:33:30.320 --> 00:33:31.320 Commissioner Smith. 00:33:31.320 --> 00:33:32.320 Aye. 00:33:32.320 --> 00:33:34.920 Uh, the chair is also an aye. 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:36.520 Vote carries seven, zero. 00:33:36.520 --> 00:33:37.520 We'll see you in a month. 00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:41.360 Next item of business is the planning and zoning commission project matrix. 00:33:41.360 --> 00:33:46.520 I will turn the floor over to Richard Canone and, uh, then to the commission for discussion. 00:33:46.520 --> 00:33:49.840 Thank you, chair, uh, members of the commission. 00:33:49.840 --> 00:33:54.000 I don't have much to update, uh, on the, on the matrix at this time. 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:59.280 What, what we're looking to do is, at least with the, uh, the bottom one, the rules on 00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:04.780 platting, uh, approval and denial, what I'd like to do is, is bring that, um, to a work 00:34:04.780 --> 00:34:05.780 session. 00:34:05.780 --> 00:34:10.720 I know we were initially wanting to do that in April, but with, uh, with the, the COVID, 00:34:10.720 --> 00:34:12.480 we've kind of put a halt to that. 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.120 What I'd like to do is, uh, hopefully we'll be back to a little bit more normalcy by, 00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:18.880 by July or by the end of this month. 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:24.320 Um, but I was anticipating bringing that item back at that July 8th, uh, work session. 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:33.160 Um, in addition, um, we will have, um, staff from traffic engineering at, at the, at that 00:34:33.160 --> 00:34:38.560 meeting as well, um, to provide any, um, uh, response, any questions specific to their 00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:39.560 roadway. 00:34:39.560 --> 00:34:43.880 Uh, and I'd also like, what I'll ask them to do is also talk about the traffic light 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.640 item, um, at, at that time. 00:34:46.640 --> 00:34:50.600 So we'll, I'll include those two items for the work session on the 8th, if that's, if 00:34:50.600 --> 00:34:54.560 that works for, um, for the commission. 00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:57.040 Sounds good. 00:34:57.040 --> 00:34:59.120 Thank you, Richard. 00:34:59.120 --> 00:35:04.920 Any other questions of the matrix or anything, uh, someone would like to add to a future 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.360 work session? 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.040 Okay. 00:35:10.040 --> 00:35:15.440 Seeing none, that concludes the planning and zoning regular session meeting for June 3rd. 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.160 I will close the meeting at six 48. 00:35:17.160 --> 00:35:18.640 You have good night. 00:35:18.640 --> 00:35:19.640 Night. 00:35:19.640 --> 00:35:19.640 Hi.