1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,040 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the planning and zoning commission work 2 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:11,920 session meeting for June 3rd, 2020. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Seeing that we do have a quorum, it is 5.04, I will call the meeting to order. 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,720 The first item on the agenda is just to go through the agenda items, so we can start 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,480 with the consent agenda items, item three, A, B, and C. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:35,080 Do you have any questions on these that we need a presentation for or clarification on? 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,680 Yes, Commissioner Beck. 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Yes, thank you, Chair. 9 00:00:42,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Should I talk to Julie about 3B? 10 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Sure. 11 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:24,380 The question about the gas well setbacks and distance from the two rows of homes is my 12 00:01:24,380 --> 00:01:25,380 question. 13 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:26,380 Okay. 14 00:01:26,380 --> 00:01:42,680 Let me pull it up, that way we can all look at it. 15 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,820 So this is a final plot for unit 20 of Robeson Ranch. 16 00:01:45,820 --> 00:01:47,780 You are correct. 17 00:01:47,780 --> 00:01:53,040 There is a gas well site here, centrally located within the plot. 18 00:01:53,040 --> 00:02:01,200 It does meet the Robeson setbacks. 19 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,900 Robeson has different setbacks than the rest of the city. 20 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:11,680 They were established in 2001 when that use was permitted within Robeson. 21 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:18,240 So residential uses do have to be set back 100 feet from the gas well. 22 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,960 These are the closest property to the gas well is about 122 feet from that gas well 23 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,080 the property line is. 24 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:34,360 So it does meet the minimum requirements. 25 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Do you happen to have the distances from the gas wells for that Southeast row and the Northeast 26 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,960 row? 27 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:51,680 I can measure really quickly. 28 00:02:51,680 --> 00:03:07,880 The Northeast row is about 230 feet and the South, so it is about 230 feet from this area. 29 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,760 And let me measure the next one. 30 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:16,260 And I'm sort of presuming while you do that that the Western boundaries are farther away. 31 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:18,720 They look farther away on the map. 32 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,720 They are. 33 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:33,360 And then the South is about 289 feet. 34 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,380 That was my question, Chair. 35 00:03:35,380 --> 00:03:36,380 Thank you. 36 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:37,380 Okay, perfect. 37 00:03:37,380 --> 00:03:41,840 Does the plat for item 3B meets all the technical requirements? 38 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Yes, sir, it does. 39 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Okay. 40 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Is there any other questions for item 3B? 41 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,440 All right. 42 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Let's go ahead and move to 3C and I'll turn the floor back over to Commissioner Beck. 43 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Thank you, Chair. 44 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:01,560 My question is real brief on that one, which I was just a little confused as to which guidelines 45 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:13,200 were under for that because they specify different dates and I wasn't sure whose guidelines we 46 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,880 were following because of the different dates. 47 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Different dates. 48 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Maybe a little in terms of public notification. 49 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Is this for... 50 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,880 No, I'm sorry. 51 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,500 Which DDCs are they under? 52 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:29,480 This would be under the 2019 DDC. 53 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,480 Okay. 54 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,160 So that's the extent of my question. 55 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Great. 56 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Thank you. 57 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:40,640 Any other questions for this item, item 3C? 58 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,000 And then just to clarify, no questions for item 3A. 59 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,820 Great. 60 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:51,800 Before we jump into the items for individual consideration, I just want to hop real fast 61 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,800 back to two. 62 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,840 Sorry to be out of order. 63 00:04:53,840 --> 00:05:01,240 Was there any questions or changes that need to be done to the minutes from May 20th? 64 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,000 Okay. 65 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Look around. 66 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Perfect. 67 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:13,360 Let's go back to item 4A, B, and C. And just a heads up, item 4A and 4B are looking for 68 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,360 an extension. 69 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,400 So we'll consider a motion there if it's possible in public hearing. 70 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:26,600 And then item 4C, they have actually asked for, the applicant has asked for a postponement. 71 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,880 So during a public hearing, we can look to see what date the commission wants to move 72 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,920 that item to potentially. 73 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,200 So with that, we'll go back to 4A. 74 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,280 I think it'd be appropriate if it's good with the commission to get a presentation and work 75 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:43,020 session for these two items. 76 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:48,760 And then in the public hearing, we might be able to skip the presentation and go to discussion 77 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,960 of motion, or if we need to represent, we certainly will. 78 00:05:51,960 --> 00:06:01,840 But with that, Julie Wyatt, you have the floor for item 4A. 79 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:10,760 Okay, sorry about the delay. 80 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,520 So this is PP2011. 81 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,400 I just have a short presentation just to talk about the plat. 82 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,720 So this is a preliminary plat for a multifamily development. 83 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,720 You may remember it. 84 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,600 It was Oxford at Sherman. 85 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:29,040 This went before you last fall and it was approved by the city council for that use. 86 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,560 The SUP was approved in December of last year. 87 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,720 Now they're coming forward with the platting. 88 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,400 They do have some engineering issues to work through that are in your staff analysis. 89 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,960 So staff recommends denial because it doesn't meet the established requirements. 90 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,320 However, they have requested an extension to the June 17th, 2020 agenda, and we have 91 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,320 no opposition to that if that's what you choose to do. 92 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,280 Great. 93 00:06:55,280 --> 00:07:02,120 Is there any questions for Julie on this item? 94 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Christian or Bec? 95 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Yeah. 96 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,120 Thank you, Chair. 97 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Julie, I was just a little confused as to what -- can you refresh me on the qualifications 98 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,840 -- or not qualifications, the reasons for denial on that one? 99 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,840 Sure. 100 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Well, there are quite a few. 101 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,760 There are -- I'll kind of start at the -- Wait. 102 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Hold on, Julie. 103 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,120 I'm sorry to interrupt. 104 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,200 Maybe I'm confusing myself. 105 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Let me look at my notes here real quick. 106 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Okay, actually, no, no, I did confuse myself. 107 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,520 I'm sorry, Julie. 108 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,520 I don't -- I'm good. 109 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,520 I'm good. 110 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Thank you. 111 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Right. 112 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Any other questions for Julie on item 4A? 113 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,840 Great. 114 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,920 Let's move on to item 4B. 115 00:07:53,920 --> 00:08:12,000 This is Haley Zagorski's presentation. 116 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 She's pulling it up now. 117 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Perfect. 118 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Okay. 119 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Thank you. 120 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Is she speaking, Richard? 121 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,800 I'm sure I'm muted. 122 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,440 I'm picking up from a different mic. 123 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:56,800 I think it's muted. 124 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Is that better? 125 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,800 That is much better. 126 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Hi, Haley. 127 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Oh, sorry about that. 128 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Yeah, so this is a preliminary plan for a future DPS facility. 129 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,880 It's a single lot located at the southeast corner of East McKinney Street in Mayhill. 130 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,140 At this time, staff is recommending denial because it fails to meet all the technical 131 00:09:13,140 --> 00:09:15,360 requirements for engineering. 132 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,520 They are very confident that they can work through all of those and have therefore requested 133 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,340 the extension to the June 17th meeting to give them a chance to resolve those final 134 00:09:23,340 --> 00:09:24,760 issues. 135 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,920 Okay, great. 136 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Any questions for Haley on this? 137 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Commissioner Beck? 138 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Yeah, I'm sorry, Chair. 139 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,760 This is the one I had some just confusion on. 140 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Sure. 141 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:47,280 So, Haley, can you, can you, there's, the city wanted a more complete flood plan, flood 142 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,980 plan plan, I got to get that in the right order. 143 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:51,980 And there was an issue. 144 00:09:51,980 --> 00:09:59,080 I mean, can you, can you highlight the salient points on, on, on where they were lacking? 145 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,080 I was just a little confused. 146 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,080 Sure. 147 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,840 So there, there is a tiny amount of floodplain on the property. 148 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:12,020 Let me share this so that I can maybe call out that area for you. 149 00:10:12,020 --> 00:10:16,480 So here in the very southern part of the property, there is some floodplain that affects this. 150 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,360 So there, there's a change that needs to be made to their easement. 151 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:25,440 I believe they have to, the code requires them to dedicate a 15 foot drainage easement 152 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,940 outside the boundaries of that floodplain. 153 00:10:26,940 --> 00:10:31,580 So they're working to, to resolve that and make sure they have those boundaries correct. 154 00:10:31,580 --> 00:10:35,440 And then they're still working with the city on this northern part of the property regarding 155 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,880 some drainage easements that are necessary for the East McKinney Street improvements 156 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,580 that will be coming up. 157 00:10:40,580 --> 00:10:45,680 So those were kind of the highlights of their, their floodplain and drainage issues. 158 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:52,080 Do you know for the sort of course desire, this is, this is mostly going to be sort of 159 00:10:52,080 --> 00:11:00,420 a cemented over practice area for DPS training with a small office. 160 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:02,520 Is that the concept? 161 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,560 This would be a DPS facility for driver's license testing for, I believe just standard 162 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:13,600 licenses as well as commercial in terms of their, their coverage on the site, roughly 163 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,080 in line with, with this corner of the property, their, their development kind of cuts across 164 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,080 here. 165 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,480 This portion of the property would not be affected by their development and it's just 166 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,520 a part of the tract of land that they're purchasing. 167 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,640 So this area is intended to be impervious as well as much of this corner up here where 168 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,860 they'll be dedicating those drainage easements. 169 00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:36,040 So they'll be concentrated largely in the middle of the site here and then on this Northeast 170 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,040 corner. 171 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,040 Okay. 172 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Thank you so much. 173 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,040 I appreciate it. 174 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,980 Is there any other questions for Haley on this item? 175 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:49,800 Great. 176 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,020 Thank you very much, Haley. 177 00:11:51,020 --> 00:12:00,400 That brings us to our next item 4C is the Sagebrook PD 20-0001D. 178 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,520 In my estimation, this is going to be brought back for the presentation on the engineering 179 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,080 and the road. 180 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,760 So I would think presenting now would not be as helpful as to present later. 181 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,560 Is there any disagreement or is anyone wanting the full presentation tonight prior to hearing 182 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:18,200 it and then a couple of weeks or a month? 183 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,200 Commissioner Anderson. 184 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Thanks, Chair. 185 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,120 They are working on rerouting the road. 186 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,580 Is that correct? 187 00:12:24,580 --> 00:12:29,160 They have actually drawn a rerouting that was in the backup for this evening. 188 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:34,680 The applicant, I think the applicant's asking for two weeks to relook at it. 189 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:39,960 The neighbor has actually, I think you received that letter, asked for a month postponement. 190 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:45,400 So they have drafted the new road and that's kind of the sticking point from our discussion 191 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,400 last month. 192 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,400 Yeah, I agree. 193 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,720 I have no reason to see the presentation if it's all going to be changed. 194 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,720 So I agree. 195 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Thank you. 196 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Commissioner Anderson. 197 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,720 Commissioner Beck. 198 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,040 Thank you, Chair. 199 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:04,680 I don't really need to see it except and unless is the staff going to highlight the differences 200 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,400 between the old plan and the new plan? 201 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,440 Because as I read the plans, it was a little unclear to me exactly where the shift was 202 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,440 occurring. 203 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Is that going to be discussed tonight? 204 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:22,000 I mean, it could be discussed tonight, but my recommendation is wait until the presentation. 205 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,840 That would be fine, Chair. 206 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,120 The timing of it is fine. 207 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:32,440 I just want to make sure that that shift is discussed tonight. 208 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,000 You want to discuss that? 209 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 I don't need it now. 210 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,560 If staff is going to sort of highlight those changes or is willing to by tonight highlight 211 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:43,720 those changes, then I absolutely wouldn't need anything right now. 212 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,080 I just want to make sure that they highlight those changes because it's a little unclear 213 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,080 to me. 214 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Right. 215 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,560 And I guess what I'm trying to communicate is that could change based on the applicant 216 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,140 working with a neighbor before coming back. 217 00:13:55,140 --> 00:14:00,160 I mean, my thought just wait till that's more finalized and hear that comparison, then hear 218 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:06,940 one tonight that's just now going to get shifted to another potential plan in two weeks. 219 00:14:06,940 --> 00:14:07,940 But I defer to you. 220 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:13,500 I defer to the commission if they want to hear the interim comparison before more final 221 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:14,500 plan comes. 222 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:18,400 I mean, I take the Chair's point. 223 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 It really only behooves us to evaluate the final. 224 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:30,800 But in terms of figuring out the final, the meaningfulness of the final plan, I think 225 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:38,320 the city and the other parties obviously at some point thought this plan that's on the 226 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,000 original agenda was potentially reasonable. 227 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:50,880 And so any future plan would anyway, I wouldn't mind then if we don't want to discuss it tonight, 228 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:58,040 we have a very brief, like even just the maps and just show where the shifts are. 229 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,920 And that's all I really need is, is a sort of a highlight of the ships. 230 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,520 I don't need a full presentation, especially if it's not the final plan that we'll expect 231 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,360 to see in a couple of weeks. 232 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Point taken. 233 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Commissioner Bec. 234 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,000 Commissioner Ellis. 235 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Thank you, Chair. 236 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,200 I don't see us seeing a presentation that is kind of hypothetical. 237 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:29,320 If they really aren't ready to present whatever the changes are, then I would think we're 238 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,760 wasting our time. 239 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,760 That would be my thought. 240 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,600 I'm seeing a presentation because if we're going to see it again in two weeks, we kind 241 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,400 of really want to see what it is that they're presenting, right? 242 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,440 Commissioner Ellis, I agree. 243 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,920 For the sake of the benefit of all commissioners, though, and to Commissioner Bec's point, is 244 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:55,080 it possible for Haley just to simply pull up the road slide and just articulate where 245 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,960 the current shift in the road is? 246 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,640 No full presentation this evening, but for the benefit of Commissioner Bec, we can just 247 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,320 take a look at that shift because I think from my looking, it moves it away from running 248 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,480 into that shed and moves it a little bit north of the shed, but I think Haley can clarify 249 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,400 and we can keep it pretty brief. 250 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,680 She's pulling it up now. 251 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Great. 252 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Thank you. 253 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Thank you, Chair. 254 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,640 That's exactly what I needed. 255 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,160 All right. 256 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,360 This is the original plan that we looked at. 257 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,920 You notice here the road is kind of aligned directly with the barn. 258 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,480 This is their revised plan. 259 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,360 I believe this measurement from the road to the barn is about 100 feet from the corner 260 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,520 here to the edge. 261 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,480 They shifted the road slightly north. 262 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Roughly along this faint dash line here, you can see some additional green space north 263 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,040 of that. 264 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,280 That is the difference in open space that would be dedicated with this revised plan 265 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:02,320 that did result in some of the lots here on the west side of the property being shifted. 266 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,080 You'll notice there the amenity center shifted a little bit to the northeast and some additional 267 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,680 homes were added in what was formerly open space to compensate for the homes that were 268 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,880 lost on this side of the property. 269 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,440 But overall, the road is largely the same for the majority of the alignment. 270 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,760 The major shift comes here where they tightened this angle, I believe, from about 1,000 foot 271 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,440 radius was on that curve originally. 272 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Now it's right at the minimum acceptable radius of 750. 273 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:37,440 So they shifted that north just to miss the barn by about 100 feet. 274 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,160 Mr. Beck? 275 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,520 That's exactly what I needed. 276 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,080 Thank you very much, Haley. 277 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,080 Perfect. 278 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Thank you, Haley. 279 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:48,840 So with that, that concludes our agenda for this evening. 280 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,840 I will close the work session at 521. 281 00:17:51,840 --> 00:18:00,720 We'll reconvene back here on this Zoom line at 630 for the regular meeting. 282 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,760 Thank you. 283 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,140 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Planning and Zoning Regular Session 284 00:18:08,140 --> 00:18:11,760 Meeting for Wednesday, June 3, 2020. 285 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Seeing that we do have a quorum, I'll call this meeting to order at 631. 286 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:23,560 The first item of business is to say the US flag pledge and the Texas flag. 287 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,200 Commissioners, if you would like, you can certainly unmute yourself to join with me 288 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,860 in the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag. 289 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:36,880 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for 290 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:47,040 which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 291 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,960 Honor the Texas flag. 292 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,960 I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible. 293 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Oh, perfect, guys, that went off without a hitch. 294 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Next item of business is item two, the approval or consideration of the minutes from May 20th, 295 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,520 2020. 296 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Commissioner Anderson. 297 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,320 I make a motion to approve. 298 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,240 We have a first for approval. 299 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,240 Commissioner Pernetta. 300 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,240 Second. 301 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,240 We have a first and a second for approval. 302 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,320 Any notation or changes to the minutes? 303 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote via roll call. 304 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Commissioner Ellis. 305 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Aye. 306 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Commissioner Cole. 307 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Aye. 308 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Commissioner Anderson. 309 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Aye. 310 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Commissioner Smith. 311 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Aye. 312 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Commissioner Bec. 313 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Aye. 314 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Commissioner Pernetta. 315 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Aye. 316 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Chair is also an aye. 317 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Motion carries 7-0. 318 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:46,200 The next item of business is consideration of the consent agenda, items 3A, B and C. 319 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Commissioner Ellis. 320 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,200 I move approval. 321 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,240 We have a first for approval. 322 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Commissioner Smith. 323 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,240 I second. 324 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:58,000 We have a first and a second for approval of the consent agenda. 325 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,160 Any discussion on this item? 326 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,360 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote via roll call. 327 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:04,360 Commissioner Ellis. 328 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:05,360 Aye. 329 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:06,360 Commissioner Cole. 330 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,360 Aye. 331 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:08,360 Commissioner Anderson. 332 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:09,360 Aye. 333 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,360 Commissioner Bec. 334 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,360 Aye. 335 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:12,360 Commissioner Pernetta. 336 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:13,360 Aye. 337 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:14,360 Commissioner Smith. 338 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:15,360 Aye. 339 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,400 Chair is also an aye. 340 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Motion carries 7-0. 341 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:27,880 The next item of business is 4A, PP20-0011. 342 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:33,000 This item staff recommends denial, however the applicant has requested an extension to 343 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,320 the June 17th meeting. 344 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Commissioner Smith. 345 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,720 I motion to continue to the June 17th meeting. 346 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 We have a first to postpone this to a date certain of June 17th. 347 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Commissioner Bec. 348 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,760 I second. 349 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,960 We have a first and a second for postponement to a date certain of June 17th, 2020. 350 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,080 Any discussion on this? 351 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,400 Seeing none, I will call for a vote via roll call. 352 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,400 Commissioner Ellis. 353 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,400 Aye. 354 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,400 Commissioner Cole. 355 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,400 Aye. 356 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,400 Commissioner Anderson. 357 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,400 Aye. 358 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,400 Commissioner Bec. 359 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,400 Aye. 360 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,400 Commissioner Pernetta. 361 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,400 Aye. 362 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,400 Commissioner Smith. 363 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,400 Aye. 364 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:19,600 And the chair is also an aye, vote carries 7-0. 365 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,120 The next item is item 4B, PP20-0010. 366 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,840 This item was recommended for denial by staff. 367 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,040 The applicant is requesting an extension to a date certain of June 17th, 2020. 368 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Commissioner Anderson. 369 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,720 I make a motion to approve the extension to the date that you just stated. 370 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,720 June 17th. 371 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Yes. 372 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,840 We have a first for approval. 373 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Commissioner Smith. 374 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Second. 375 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,600 We have a first and a second for approval. 376 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,300 Any discussion on this item? 377 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,920 Seeing none, I will call for a vote via roll call. 378 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,920 Commissioner Ellis. 379 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Aye. 380 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,920 Commissioner Cole. 381 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,920 Aye. 382 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,920 Commissioner Anderson. 383 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,920 Aye. 384 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,920 Commissioner Bec. 385 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,920 Aye. 386 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,920 Commissioner Pernetta. 387 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:00,920 Aye. 388 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,920 Commissioner Smith. 389 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,920 Aye. 390 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:08,480 And the chair is also an aye, vote carries 7-0. 391 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:17,160 The next item on the agenda is item 4C, PD20-0001D. 392 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:24,760 This item has been requested to be postponed until June 17th by the applicant. 393 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,360 We do have some public comment on this, and so I'm going to read this real fast and we'll 394 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,880 go to some individuals holding on the phone. 395 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,760 For this item, we had one person make comments using the online form. 396 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,760 There is one in support and zero against. 397 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,240 All of these comments forms were emailed to all commissioners and our city secretary to 398 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,720 be recorded. 399 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,200 There is no one who called in to register their position through the phone prior to 400 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,200 this meeting. 401 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,120 Finally, there are three individuals who requested to speak over the phone on this item. 402 00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:16,640 Both will be connecting to them now for the first individual. 403 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,880 We're just waiting for that to be patched through. 404 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:38,600 Can someone unmute the phone line? 405 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Good evening. 406 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,600 Are you there? 407 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,600 Caller? 408 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,600 Yes. 409 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Yes, I am here. 410 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,600 Okay. 411 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,600 Well, you're live with the Planning and Zoning Commission. 412 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,240 In just a minute, I'm going to have you state your name and you have three minutes to begin. 413 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,760 Just so you're aware, there is no presentation on this item tonight as it's being sought 414 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,280 after for a postponement to a date of June 17th, but we certainly, if you would like 415 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,400 to make your comments this evening, you certainly are able to, or when this item comes back, 416 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,640 you can make those your concerns known at that time, but tonight we're looking to postpone 417 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,640 the item. 418 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,680 However, you do have three minutes to speak if you just state your name and address for 419 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,680 the record. 420 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:23,440 Certainly, the name is Ray Ojewski, the address is 201 Main Street, Fort Worth, Texas, 76102. 421 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,600 Representing the adjacent property owner to the applicant to this case, Mr. Chairman and 422 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,280 members of the commission, the only comment I would have is that the date the case is 423 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,640 being continued to is June 17th. 424 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:44,080 I had advised the applicant earlier today that I am out of town on a vacation that week, 425 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:51,200 and I previously requested a 30 day continuance for additional time for my client and the 426 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,640 applicant and city staff to get together and talk about the concerns of my client. 427 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,840 So while I understand there is a motion to continue to June 17th, I respectfully request 428 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:11,080 that that go to the July, the first July meeting that the commission will hold. 429 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,660 So in the event that we don't work something out by June 17th, then we won't have to come 430 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:21,600 back and ask for another continuance because I will be on vacation that week. 431 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,760 And with that, I will conclude my comments and be happy to answer any questions. 432 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,400 Well, I appreciate you being here this evening. 433 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Does any commissioners have any questions for council? 434 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,080 I do not see any at this time, but I appreciate you calling in and your statement has been 435 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,520 noted that you'd like to do seek a postponement to the first meeting in July, which I have 436 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,800 as July 8th on my calendar. 437 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,160 Okay, very good. 438 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,160 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 439 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,740 I appreciate the time tonight. 440 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,300 Thank you very much. 441 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,480 We do have another caller. 442 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Okay, just one second here. 443 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:11,200 The other individuals on the line, one was was declined to speak now and the other one 444 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,200 is unreachable. 445 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,600 We've we've attempted five times to reach that individual. 446 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,760 I believe they did submit comment on the item, but we're unable to reach them to be a phone. 447 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,240 So at this time, it's not a public hearing, it's an individual consideration. 448 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,160 So the chair will certainly entertain a motion discussion about Commissioner Smith, make 449 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,360 a motion to postpone until the date certain of July 8th of 2020. 450 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,960 We have a first postpone till date of July 8th. 451 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:43,840 Richard, can you confirm that is the date and my calendar is correct, July 8th. 452 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,840 That's what I have. 453 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:54,880 I'm confirming with Kathy now that is the published date, July 8th. 454 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:00,440 We have a first for postponing to July 8th. 455 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,640 Is there a second question for a second, we have a first and a second for postponement 456 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840 to July 8th. 457 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,280 I'm not sure protocol here, but we did reach the individual on the line. 458 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,840 And so before we take a vote, I'd like to use the opportunity of discussion just to 459 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,600 provide that citizen the opportunity to speak. 460 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,080 Can we get him patched through? 461 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:27,120 I can still hear you, Mr. Turner, if you can hear me. 462 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:31,520 I can still hear you, but we'll see what we can do to mute you. 463 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,680 Hello, is this Mr. Pruitt? 464 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,680 It is. 465 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,160 Mr. Pruitt, I appreciate you holding and being available this evening. 466 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,720 You are live with the Planning and Zoning Commission now on our Zoom call. 467 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,600 Just so you're aware, you are provided three minutes to speak tonight and we'll certainly 468 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,600 honor that. 469 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,880 However, while we were trying to get a hold of you, there was a motion and a second on 470 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,800 the floor to postpone this item to a date certain of July 8th. 471 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,480 So we have a first and a second, we're in discussion on that, but we wanted to give 472 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,480 you the opportunity to speak. 473 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,720 I just wanted you to be aware that we did not have a presentation on this tonight. 474 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,040 And there is a motion to postpone this if you'd like to come back on July 8th and speak. 475 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,560 That being said, you can state your full name and address and we'll provide you your three 476 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,560 minutes this evening. 477 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Good opportunity, this is Eric Pruitt, 2111 Westwood Drive. 478 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:27,480 I want to thank staff for including in backups the economic impact analysis provided by the 479 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,160 developer last year as part of the annexation application. 480 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:38,060 But careful planning requires careful fiscal analysis and this looks more like marketing 481 00:28:38,060 --> 00:28:42,920 material focused on the one-time benefits rather than a careful analysis of long-term 482 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,040 revenues and liabilities. 483 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:54,440 This slide that showed a net positive impact used the 2019 fiscal year tax rate of 62 cents 484 00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:02,040 and when you use the current proposed 2021 fiscal year rate of 59.6 cents that cuts that 485 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 benefit almost in half. 486 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:11,440 But even then, the analysis seems over optimistic to me because it uses an average annual cost 487 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:19,360 for new population value, which assumes each resident in the city costs the same amount. 488 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,900 But many infrastructure and maintenance costs are not related to the number of residents, 489 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:30,640 but rather the length and the amount of infrastructure to serve that community, roads, pipes, loose 490 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,640 station. 491 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,000 Average cost accounting underestimates public costs in developments like this and overestimates 492 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,480 costs in more efficient development styles. 493 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,120 The public costs of this development are likely much higher and would make this development 494 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,120 physically negative. 495 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,420 This is not a radical thought. 496 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:53,240 Our city manager has even said, quote, "There is not a residential subdivision built that 497 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,800 stands on its own, zero," end quote. 498 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Yet this analysis claims this subdivision does just that. 499 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,700 We need better metrics and clear fiscal goals if we are to ensure development in Denton 500 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,960 follows our long range plan and doesn't raise our tax burden in the future. 501 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,600 If you want to subsidize the future residents of Sagebrook with higher taxes from other 502 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,720 areas of the city, that's your prerogative. 503 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,040 But Institute's sound metrics and a fiscal analysis process today, one that uses an accurate 504 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,280 accounting of costs based on the type of development. 505 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,840 We must stop lying to ourselves claiming all development pays enough taxes to sustain itself 506 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,720 when we know it does not. 507 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,360 I'm not trying to be unreasonable and say that you must deny this particular application. 508 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,760 But if you approve 10 more like this without establishing a practice of realistic long-term 509 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,600 fiscal analysis, we have a systemic problem that will likely result in higher taxes to 510 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,360 future taxpayers. 511 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,360 Thank you. 512 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Mr. Prud, I appreciate you adding your input. 513 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Thank you. 514 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,760 And if just a heads up, if this vote carries to postpone, we certainly invite you back 515 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,280 at that meeting to speak once again your comments. 516 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480 Thank you for this evening. 517 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Thank you. 518 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Uh, back to the discussion on the item. 519 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,920 We had a first and a second, uh, someone just get patched through. 520 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Nope. 521 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,560 We had a first and a second for, uh, postponements who date certain of July 8th. 522 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000 Is there any other discussion on this item? 523 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Commissioner Ellis. 524 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Thank you, chair. 525 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,680 Is the applicant with us on the call or no? 526 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,800 I don't see the applicant on the phone. 527 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,800 Okay. 528 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,800 Okay. 529 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,800 I was just curious, just cause they. 530 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Yes. 531 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Oh, the applicant is on the phone. 532 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:49,640 Just as far as your thoughts on, on postponing to the 8th of July. 533 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Hi there. 534 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,520 This is the applicant, Randi Rivera with McAdams, um, to answer your question about the postponement. 535 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,520 Is that correct? 536 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,520 Yes, correct. 537 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Okay. 538 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:08,840 Um, yes, our client, uh, Zaina has been in discussion with the council obtained by the 539 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,440 neighbor to the West. 540 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,960 Um, and they've corresponded throughout, um, the last week, uh, with the changes that we've 541 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:23,960 made and, um, we, we felt like we've made a good attempt on, uh, reducing the impact 542 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,040 and that's in your packet, uh, that, uh, that is before you tonight. 543 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:35,160 And if, uh, the commission deemed it necessary to postpone it to July 8th, we are in support 544 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,960 of that and look forward to coming back July 8th, um, to, to present the details of the 545 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600 changes to the plan that we presented to you a month ago. 546 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,600 Okay. 547 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,480 And the goal is to continue, um, discussion with the adjacent property owner in that timeframe. 548 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,440 Yes, ma'am. 549 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,760 There has been a request to set up a meeting as early as, uh, the end of this week or the 550 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,280 beginning of next week. 551 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Okay. 552 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,280 All right. 553 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,280 That's great. 554 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,520 Thank you for answering my questions. 555 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Thank you. 556 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Any other discussion on this item? 557 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Seeing none, I will call for a vote to postpone this to a date certain of July 8th via roll 558 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,320 call. 559 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,320 Commissioner Ellis. 560 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Aye. 561 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Commissioner Cole. 562 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Aye. 563 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Commissioner Anderson. 564 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,320 Aye. 565 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,320 Commissioner Beck. 566 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Aye. 567 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Commissioner Pernetta. 568 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,320 Aye. 569 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Commissioner Smith. 570 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,320 Aye. 571 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,920 Uh, the chair is also an aye. 572 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,520 Vote carries seven, zero. 573 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520 We'll see you in a month. 574 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,360 Next item of business is the planning and zoning commission project matrix. 575 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,520 I will turn the floor over to Richard Canone and, uh, then to the commission for discussion. 576 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Thank you, chair, uh, members of the commission. 577 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,000 I don't have much to update, uh, on the, on the matrix at this time. 578 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,280 What, what we're looking to do is, at least with the, uh, the bottom one, the rules on 579 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,780 platting, uh, approval and denial, what I'd like to do is, is bring that, um, to a work 580 00:34:04,780 --> 00:34:05,780 session. 581 00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:10,720 I know we were initially wanting to do that in April, but with, uh, with the, the COVID, 582 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,480 we've kind of put a halt to that. 583 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,120 What I'd like to do is, uh, hopefully we'll be back to a little bit more normalcy by, 584 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,880 by July or by the end of this month. 585 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,320 Um, but I was anticipating bringing that item back at that July 8th, uh, work session. 586 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:33,160 Um, in addition, um, we will have, um, staff from traffic engineering at, at the, at that 587 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,560 meeting as well, um, to provide any, um, uh, response, any questions specific to their 588 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,560 roadway. 589 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,880 Uh, and I'd also like, what I'll ask them to do is also talk about the traffic light 590 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,640 item, um, at, at that time. 591 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,600 So we'll, I'll include those two items for the work session on the 8th, if that's, if 592 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,560 that works for, um, for the commission. 593 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,040 Sounds good. 594 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120 Thank you, Richard. 595 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Any other questions of the matrix or anything, uh, someone would like to add to a future 596 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,360 work session? 597 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,040 Okay. 598 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:15,440 Seeing none, that concludes the planning and zoning regular session meeting for June 3rd. 599 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,160 I will close the meeting at six 48. 600 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,640 You have good night. 601 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,640 Night. 602 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:19,640 Hi.