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 Please. Good evening, ladies

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 and gentlemen, and welcome to

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 the Plan and Zoning Commission

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 public hearing for Wednesday,

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 April 8th, 2020. It is 6 31 and

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 seeing that we do have a quorum,

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 I will call this meeting to

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 order. The first item on our

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 agenda this evening is to

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 consider approval of the Plan

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 and Zoning Minutes. We can take

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 this meeting to order on the

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 4th of March, 4th, 2020.

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 Commissioner Pernetta.

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 >> Motion to approve.

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 >> We have a first.

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 >> Commissioner Anderson.

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 >> I second the motion.

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 >> We have a first and a

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 second. Any discussion on the

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 next item on the agenda?

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 >> If there are none, I will

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 call a vote by show of hands.

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 All in favor? All opposed?

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 Abstain. Motion carries 7-0.

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 The next item of business for

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 this evening is the consent

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 item. We will take this in one

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 vote, but before we vote, I

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 did receive comments, so I

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 wanted to at least provide it.

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 We usually don't have comment

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 for consent, but since they

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 are in favor, I will call a

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 vote.

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 Thomas free is in favor of

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 item 2A, PP20-009A, and Anaya

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 Acosta in Fort Worth, she is

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 also or he is also in favor of

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 PP20-009A, and then the other

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 feedback I have is for agenda

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 2C, FP20-0007, and that was

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 from Amy Bissett in Denton,

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 Texas, and she is in favor of

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 that.

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 I have received three cards, so

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 to speak, from the public on

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 the consent agenda, but the

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 chair will entertain a motion

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 on these items.

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 Commissioner Ellis.

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 >> I move approval.

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 >> Do we have a second?

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 >> Second.

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 >> Perfect.

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 We have a first and a second

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 for the consent agenda.

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 Any discussion?

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 Seeing none, I will call for a

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 vote by show of hands.

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 All in favor?

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 That's all 7, so that motion

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 carries 7-0.

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 The next item of business is

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 moving into our individual

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 considerations.

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 The first item is item 3A, FP20-0002.

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 Staff is recommending approval,

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 but we do have a short

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 presentation to view.

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 Again, if you have any

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 questions on this item, we are

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 going to disappear from the

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 screen as I know it, and we will

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 see the plat have a short

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 presentation, and then we will

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 take a vote on that.

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 Thank you.

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 >> Richard, are you there?

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 >> I'm here.

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 Can you hear me?

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 >> Thank you.

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 We can now.

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 >> Just wanted to briefly touch

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 on the recommendation.

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 There are two conditions of

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 approval.

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 The first is that we have a

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 preliminary plat.

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 We did a preliminary plat for

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 this not long ago.

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 So this is that first phase at

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 their final platting.

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 I will be happy to answer any

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 questions.

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 I also have staff online if

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 there is anything that I cannot

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 answer.

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 >> Looks like we do have one

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 question right now.

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 Commissioner Beck?

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 >> Yes.

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 Richard, there was just --

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 everything was clear, but there

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 was weird language on the

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 recommendation that says

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 recommends as it fails to meet

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 the established requirements.

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 Has that been amended?

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 >> Yes.

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 Yes.

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 So the conditions of approval,

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 we can pull them back up.

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 >> No, I don't have an issue

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 with the conditions or any of

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 it.

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 It's just the language of the

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 wording under recommendation.

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 It said staff recommends

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 approval of this request as it

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 fails to meet the established

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 requirements.

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 >> No, that would be it meets

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 as it fails to meet the

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 established requirements.

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 >> That would be it meets.

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 I think what happened is as with

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 these plats, we get changes

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 right up to the last minute,

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 unfortunately.

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 And so that just might have been

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 an error in the staff report.

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 >> Yeah, so as long as it's not

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 inhibiting, that was my only

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 question.

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 >> Recommending of approval.

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 >> Any other questions for staff

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 on agenda item 3A?

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 Commissioner Ellis?

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 >> Thank you, chair.

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 I'm assuming that the applicant

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 knows the conditions and

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 understands, correct, Richard?

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 >> Correct.

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 >> All right.

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 Any other questions for item 3A?

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 Okay.

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 The chair -- oh, commissioner

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 Anderson.

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 >> No, I was going to make a

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 motion to approve.

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 >> Go for it.

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 >> I make a motion to approve

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 with the condition that it is

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 staff approved instead of that

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 as it fails, like commissioner

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 Beck pointed out.

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 >> Great.

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 Thank you.

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 We have a first.

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 Commissioner Smith?

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 >> Second.

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 >> We have a first and a second

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 for approval.

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 Any discussion on this item?

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 Seeing none, I'll call for a

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 vote by show of hands.

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 All in favor?

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 That's all 7.

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 Motion carries 7-0.

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 Next item is item 3B,

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 PP20-0006.

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 And we also have a short

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 presentation for this as well.

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 This is a preliminary plat that

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 staff is also recommending a

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 conditional approval.

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 You can see the conditions on

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 the screen here in front of you.

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 If you recall, this was a zoning

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 amendment not long ago that

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 rezoned out of a PD just west on

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 Bonnie Bray, south of where the

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 fire station is off of -- at

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 Bonnie Bray, just north of where

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 the southwest park is.

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 With that, I'll be happy to

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 answer any questions.

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 >> Commissioner Beck?

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 >> Yeah, Richard.

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 The drainage plan -- it feels

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 like we're a little cart before

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 the horse.

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 I know that we have these

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 conditional approvals, but the

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 drainage plan and some of the

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 ESA plans and everything for

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 that area, you know, we -- I

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 mean, I guess we could stop it

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 if it doesn't meet -- if the

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 plan is not approved, that

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 conditional becomes a

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 conditional, but it feels like,

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 you know, why should we approve

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 something before we've seen that

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 plan kind of thing?

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 I feel like we're a little cart

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 before the horse there.

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 >> I think it's important --

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 >> And I have grave concerns

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 about those ESAs and drainage.

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 I mean, that's sort of one of my

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 concerns.

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 >> I think it's important to

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 point out that this is a

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 preliminary plat.

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 So it does not give them any

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 rights to develop.

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 They couldn't pull a permit.

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 And so even to get to that

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 point, they would have to have

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 the final plat approved by the

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 commission.

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 The condition states that they

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 would not even be able to apply

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 for that final plat until that

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 downstream assessment is

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 complete and approved.

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 >> Is there any other questions?

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 Seeing none, chair will

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 entertain a motion on the item.

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 >> I take a motion to approve.

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 >> We have a first for approval

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 of commissioner Cole.

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 >> Second.

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 >> Second.

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 >> We have a first and a second

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 for approval.

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 Any discussion on the item?

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 Seeing none, I'll call for a

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 vote by show of hands.

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 All in favor?

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 All opposed?

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 And no abstaining.

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 Motion carries 6-1.

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 The next item of business is

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 item 3C.

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 There's not a presentation for

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 this as it is being recommended

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 for denial.

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 However, the applicant is

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 requesting an extension until

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 May 6th.

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 So if there's a commissioner who

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 wanted a motion to postpone to a

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 date certain, this would come

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 back on May 6th for a full

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 presentation at that time.

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 >> I make a motion to grant the

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 postponement until date certain

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 on May 6th.

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 >> We have a first for approval

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 with -- for approval to postpone

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 until May 6th.

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 Commissioner Anderson.

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 >> I second the motion.

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 >> Okay.

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 We have a first and a second to

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 postpone until May 6th, date

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 certain.

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 Any discussion on this item?

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 Seeing none, I'll call for a

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 vote by show of hands.

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 All in favor?

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 That's all 7.

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 Motion carries 7-0.

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 The next item of business is

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 item 3D.

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 It's the same situation as 3C.

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 Staff is recommending denial.

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 However, the applicant has

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 requested an extension until May

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 6th.

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 If there is a vote for that,

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 we'll have a full presentation

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 on May 6th.

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 So is there a commissioner who

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 would want to motion for this?

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 >> I make a motion to postpone

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 to date certain on May 6th.

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 >> We have a first for approval.

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 Commissioner Ellis.

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 >> I postpone it.

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 >> All in favor?

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 Got it.

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 Commissioner Ellis.

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 >> Second.

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 >> We have a first and a second

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 to postpone this item to a date

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 certain of May 6th.

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 Any discussion on this item?

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 Great.

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 I will call for a vote by show

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 of hands.

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 All in favor?

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 That's 7.

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 Motion carries 7-0.

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 We have no public hearing items

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 on tonight's agenda.

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 That moves us to our final and

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 concluding item is the planning

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 and zoning project matrix.

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 I will let Richard update us on

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 any pertinent information for

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 the matrix.

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 >> Just a brief update on the

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 deenergizing of the substation

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 on blag.

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 I know we had the encore plat

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 that was on consent.

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 I did hear from DME.

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 Again, it has been deenergized.

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 The load has been transferred to

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 the other new station.

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 Again, this is one of those

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 that's a TMPA site.

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 From what I understood from DME

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 today from Chris, TMPA, Texas

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 municipal power association is

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 the acronym nearing the end of

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 its life.

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 What they expect is once TMPA

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 essentially goes away, they

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 would be transferring that

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 asset.

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 That asset most likely would

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 be transferred to the city of

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 Denton.

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 At which time once the city

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 takes that over, they would

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 remove I think there's a small

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 building out there as well as

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 the equipment.

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 So just wanted to provide that

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 update.

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 >> Commissioner Anderson?

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 >> Is that -- can you hear me?

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 Okay.

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 Was that one of the concerns

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 the last time this went before

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 the commission I believe for

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 some of the people that lived

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 in that area was the power

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 station?

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 >> That was part of the SUP

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 approval.

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 We had I think the residents

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 that lived across the street

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 that had some concerns with that

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 substation.

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 >> Thank you, Richard.

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 >> Is there any items that the

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 commission would like to discuss

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 or add to the matrix?

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 Certainly if you have questions

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 about the virtual meeting.

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 I think it went well tonight but

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 I don't know if anyone has

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 anything to add.

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 Richard, the assumption is by me

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 that we have another P&Z this

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 afternoon.

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 What's the update on that or

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 thoughts?

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 >> As it stands today, because

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 we kind of put a halt on

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 accepting new applications, we

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 don't have any that would have

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 aligned with the meeting on the

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 21st.

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 So it doesn't look like at this

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 point in time that we will have

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 a meeting on the 21st.

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 But I'm not certain.

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 If we do get a resubmittal in on

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 a plat that's under the shot

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 and we have that 15-day period

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 to respond, so there might be a

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 possibility.

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 But, again, it might even just

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 be an item on consent or one or

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 two items on IC.

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 But right now we're not

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 anticipating a meeting on the

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 21st.

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 >> Okay.

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 Christopher Beck.

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 >> Yeah, thank you, chair.

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 Richard, I know that staff is

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 super busy with all the delays

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 and everything.

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 And so do we have an

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 anticipation for -- given this

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 virtual meeting schedule, when

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 we're likely to see more -- some

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 of the more commonplace matrix

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 items?

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 Is that -- we're looking at May,

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 June right now?

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 >> Probably -- probably, honestly,

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 May and June.

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 I'm doing the same meetings

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 with -- similar to this with

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 staff right now.

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 And so we're just kind of

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 getting caught up on a lot of

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 items.

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 Believe it or not, we're still

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 getting -- excuse me -- a lot of

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 resubmittals.

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 So they are staying -- or I

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 should say we are staying

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 relatively busy.

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 Of course, some of the items, if

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 they're shot clocked, they'll be

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 in front of -- in front of this

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 body.

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 But we have a lot that are just

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 under the administrative

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 approval process that

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 continually that aren't

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 necessarily new applications,

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 but are those resubmittals.

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 I think we had seven or eight

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 applications that came in

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 already this -- this Tuesday.

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 So -- which is a good sign, I

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 think.

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 But at least we're still seeing

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 projects moving forward.

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 >> Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 >> Christian Ellis.

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 >> Richard, do you have --

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 you're not accepting new apps

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 indefinitely right now?

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 Is there a date on that or --

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 >> The latest order ends at the

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 end of -- I'm sorry -- at the

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 end of October.

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 I know on the 21st, I believe

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 they're looking -- I should --

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 our meeting was the 22nd.

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 My apologies.

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 I believe council on the 21st

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 will look at that and discuss

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 it.

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 I think just discussing

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 internally, seeing how it went

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 last night with council as well

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 as tonight with P&Z, just how

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 it worked before we got into

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 too deep.

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 >> Is there any other items or

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 questions we added to the matrix

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 or updates?

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 Seeing none, that concludes the

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 P&Z commission meeting for this

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 evening.

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 I will close the meeting at 6:46.

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 Thank you, everyone, and be