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 Please. Good evening, ladies

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 and gentlemen, and welcome to

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 the Plan and Zoning Commission

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 public hearing for Wednesday,

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 April 8th, 2020. It is 6 31 and

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 seeing that we do have a quorum,

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 I will call this meeting to

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 order. The first item on our

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 consider approval of the Plan

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 and Zoning Minutes. We can take

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 this meeting to order on the

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 4th of March, 4th, 2020.

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 Commissioner Pernetta.

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 >> Motion to approve.

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 >> We have a first.

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 >> Commissioner Anderson.

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 >> I second the motion.

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 >> We have a first and a

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 next item on the agenda?

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 >> If there are none, I will

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 All in favor? All opposed?

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 Abstain. Motion carries 7-0.

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 Thomas free is in favor of

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 item 2A, PP20-009A, and Anaya

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 I have received three cards, so

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 >> I move approval.

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 >> Do we have a second?

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 The first item is item 3A, FP20-0002.

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 Commissioner Ellis.

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 >> I postpone it.

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 >> All in favor?

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 Got it.

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 Commissioner Ellis.

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 >> Second.

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 >> We have a first and a second

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 to postpone this item to a date

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 certain of May 6th.

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 Any discussion on this item?

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 Great.

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 I will call for a vote by show

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 of hands.

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 All in favor?

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 That's 7.

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 Motion carries 7-0.

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 We have no public hearing items

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 on tonight's agenda.

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 That moves us to our final and

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 concluding item is the planning

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 and zoning project matrix.

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 I will let Richard update us on

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 any pertinent information for

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 the matrix.

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 >> Just a brief update on the

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 deenergizing of the substation

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 on blag.

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 I know we had the encore plat

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 that was on consent.

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 I did hear from DME.

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 Again, it has been deenergized.

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 The load has been transferred to

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 the other new station.

328
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 Again, this is one of those

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 that's a TMPA site.

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 From what I understood from DME

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 today from Chris, TMPA, Texas

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 municipal power association is

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 the acronym nearing the end of

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 its life.

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 What they expect is once TMPA

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 essentially goes away, they

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 would be transferring that

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 asset.

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 That asset most likely would

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 be transferred to the city of

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 Denton.

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 At which time once the city

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 takes that over, they would

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 remove I think there's a small

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 building out there as well as

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 the equipment.

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 So just wanted to provide that

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 update.

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 >> Commissioner Anderson?

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 >> Is that -- can you hear me?

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 Okay.

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 Was that one of the concerns

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 the last time this went before

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 the commission I believe for

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 some of the people that lived

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 in that area was the power

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 station?

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 >> That was part of the SUP

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 approval.

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 We had I think the residents

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 that lived across the street

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 that had some concerns with that

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 substation.

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 >> Thank you, Richard.

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 >> Is there any items that the

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 commission would like to discuss

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 or add to the matrix?

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 Certainly if you have questions

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 about the virtual meeting.

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 I think it went well tonight but

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 I don't know if anyone has

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 anything to add.

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 Richard, the assumption is by me

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 that we have another P&Z this

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 afternoon.

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 What's the update on that or

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 thoughts?

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 >> As it stands today, because

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 we kind of put a halt on

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 accepting new applications, we

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 don't have any that would have

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 aligned with the meeting on the

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 21st.

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 So it doesn't look like at this

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 point in time that we will have

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 a meeting on the 21st.

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 But I'm not certain.

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 If we do get a resubmittal in on

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 a plat that's under the shot

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 and we have that 15-day period

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 to respond, so there might be a

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 possibility.

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 But, again, it might even just

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 be an item on consent or one or

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 two items on IC.

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 But right now we're not

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 anticipating a meeting on the

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 21st.

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 >> Okay.

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 Christopher Beck.

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 >> Yeah, thank you, chair.

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 Richard, I know that staff is

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 super busy with all the delays

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 and everything.

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 And so do we have an

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 anticipation for -- given this

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 virtual meeting schedule, when

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 we're likely to see more -- some

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 of the more commonplace matrix

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 items?

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 Is that -- we're looking at May,

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 June right now?

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 >> Probably -- probably, honestly,

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 May and June.

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 I'm doing the same meetings

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 with -- similar to this with

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 staff right now.

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 And so we're just kind of

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 getting caught up on a lot of

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 items.

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 Believe it or not, we're still

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 getting -- excuse me -- a lot of

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 resubmittals.

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 So they are staying -- or I

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 should say we are staying

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 relatively busy.

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 Of course, some of the items, if

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 they're shot clocked, they'll be

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 in front of -- in front of this

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 body.

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 But we have a lot that are just

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 under the administrative

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 approval process that

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 continually that aren't

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 necessarily new applications,

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 but are those resubmittals.

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 I think we had seven or eight

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 applications that came in

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 already this -- this Tuesday.

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 So -- which is a good sign, I

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 think.

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 But at least we're still seeing

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 projects moving forward.

444
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 >> Okay.

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 Thank you.

446
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 >> Christian Ellis.

447
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 >> Richard, do you have --

448
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 you're not accepting new apps

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 indefinitely right now?

450
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 Is there a date on that or --

451
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 >> The latest order ends at the

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 end of -- I'm sorry -- at the

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 end of October.

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 I know on the 21st, I believe

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 they're looking -- I should --

456
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 our meeting was the 22nd.

457
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 My apologies.

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 I believe council on the 21st

459
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 will look at that and discuss

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 it.

461
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 I think just discussing

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 internally, seeing how it went

463
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 last night with council as well

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 as tonight with P&Z, just how

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 it worked before we got into

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 too deep.

467
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 >> Is there any other items or

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 questions we added to the matrix

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 or updates?

470
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 Seeing none, that concludes the

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 P&Z commission meeting for this

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 evening.

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 I will close the meeting at 6:46.

474
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 Thank you, everyone, and be