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Good evening. It is Monday August 17th, 2026. This is a

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special called meeting of the Board of Ethics.

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And it is for ethics complaint 26-002. And this is a

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preliminary assessment board.

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So looking at the agenda, we have four exhibits.

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The first is the agenda information seat, which basically

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says that tonight the only thing we need to decide if this

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is actionable or baseless.

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So exhibit two is the complaint, which I know you have all

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read. I don't know if we need to go over it any.

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It's available online, so unless you need a copy, we assume

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you've read it.

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So exhibit three is the ordinance 25-577, the ethics

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ordinance. And then exhibit four is the process packet.

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So I guess we need to just go into discussion.

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As you stated, this is just to determine if the complaint

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alleges conduct that if we assume it is true would be a

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violation of the ethics ordinance.

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If yes, you determine it's actionable, we'll schedule an

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evidentiary hearing, which is then when you would consider

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if there's enough evidence to support that it reasonably

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occurred, violation reasonably occurred.

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If not, then it's baseless, the complaint would be

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dismissed. There's also the third option that it may be fr

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ivolous, which we would then schedule a frivolity hearing if

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that's the direction that you all gave.

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The section H of the ordinance is the abusive position,

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which is what is alleged of, was indicated is what the

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complainant believes was violated.

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This does not restrict you necessarily. If there's another

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section of the ordinance you believe fits more

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appropriately, you're allowed to look at that.

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But this is just for reference.

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So if we're talking about abuse of position, I'm open to

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discussion right now.

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Dustin. Does the complaint need to be here? No.

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At this point, neither the complainant or respondent are

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here to present anything. They're not required to.

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There's no testimony from the public. This is really just y

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'all looking at what is alleged.

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Would that even be a violation of the ordinance if we

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assume it's true? There's no real discussion of the

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evidence at this point.

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Just what the conduct that's alleged. Does that help make

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sense?

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Yes.

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I think this is a really serious matter in front of us.

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My concern is reading through the complaint and trying to

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understand what is hearsay versus what is fact.

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And it's like he said something, he didn't say anything,

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the other person doesn't want to come forward.

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And it's very hard to rule on something when you have all

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the facts in front of you.

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You have both sides not communicating and talking to be

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able to make some judgment on if it's actionable or if it's

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baseless.

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Yeah, and the way the ordinance is set up, at this stage,

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you're supposed to assume everything in the complaint is

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true.

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The evidentiary hearing is then the stage, please correct

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me if I'm wrong, special counsel,

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but at the evidentiary hearing stage is when you really

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consider is there enough evidence to support that this

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occurred?

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And then you get the complainant side and the respondent

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side during that meeting. We don't get there if you

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determine it's baseless,

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because essentially what is alleged wouldn't be a violation

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in any way, if that makes sense.

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So tonight's hearing is really nominal data.

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Correct. And it's intended that way.

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And that is the correct process.

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Okay, thank you.

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Yes, and that you said you would like to start the

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discussion on this specific item in the complaint, which is

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abusive position.

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I think this falls under the first paragraph under that

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harassment discrimination.

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It is unclear if the intent of the discussion and the

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complaint had anything to do with what's worded in our

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ordinances, ethnicity, race, gender, gender identity,

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sexual orientation, marital status, parental status, or

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religion.

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But the description of it does. I would consider that

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harassment based on the the described response in the

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complaint letter.

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So it, especially the report that the alleged perpetrator I

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guess repeatedly stated that they were a member of city

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council.

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Yeah, I guess I should qualify that statement.

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The paragraph in that word and says use the officials

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position to harass or discriminate against and then what I

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described before, and while some of the behavior may not

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fall under under that description.

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The fact that the respondent, according to this description

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repeatedly invoke their status or their position as a city

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council member.

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Use that in throughout the conversation, and then in the

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offering of illegal substances.

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And then in the screenshot that was provided with the

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complaint that I assume to be from the respondent. It

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states their name and that they're a member of the city

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council.

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All of those things kind of.

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It's, it's almost like it was written to to meet this.

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If it's okay, I can add something else to this outside of

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the.

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So one of the things we I think we're supposed to do here

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is if there's something outside some other clause in the,

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in the ordinance that wasn't highlighted in the complaint

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we can bring that correct.

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Okay, so.

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Paragraph E under the section two dash two seven three

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conflicts of interest.

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Paragraph ease improper influence says it shall be a

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violation of this article for a city official to use such a

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person's official title slash position to one secure

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special privileges or benefits for such person or others.

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And then I'll skip to paragraph three, assert the prestige

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of the officials or employee city position for the purpose

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of advancing or harming private interests.

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The description and the complaint, I think would fall under

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both of those.

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And if I could, I know.

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Former Councilmember Villarreal is a step down from the

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council one of my first thoughts was, is this.

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Do we need to do anything with this, and there's sort of

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two things that apply here one is that the date on the on a

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description and the complaint.

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The member of council on May 12, so this was wall wall

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council member, Villarreal was still seated as a council

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member, and our ordinance states.

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In section two dash two six eight applicability paragraph

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be former city officials who separation from city service

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occurred less than one year from the date of the alleged

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violation of this article.

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Application of this article to former city officials should

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be limited to alleged violations that occurred during the

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term as a city official so.

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The initial thought was, why are we looking at this if you

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already stepped down.

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We have to look at it it's required by our ordinance.

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The council member on the date this activity reportedly

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occurred and step down, but the is still subject to the

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ordinance because it's within one year of.

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It's within one year the alleged violation occurred.

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I think that's a pretty good summary.

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Do you have anything else.

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I for this for this preliminary hearing, I don't know that

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there's anything else that I would like to say.

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Other than, I wouldn't. I'll make a motion that this is an

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actionable complaint and should be should move forward in

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the process to.

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Evidence your hearing.

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Okay, so.

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Do I hear a second or do we need to have more discussion

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before we move to that point.

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I'm just thinking, you know, I understand what he's saying.

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Again, I feel like that.

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Since.

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The councilman step down, I'm not sure I'll put it in lay

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man's words on what is the end game.

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Guilty or innocent.

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I'm not sure.

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So, you know, I I'm not going to lose sleep over making it

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actionable.

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But I, I, I feel like that we're going one more step that.

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Since he's resigned, I'm not sure.

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Why, with the exception of I think Dustin did read

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something that that I read myself about the one year.

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And I thought to myself.

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Oh, we've got to pay attention to this for one more year.

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For this gentleman, even though he stepped down.

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The other thing that.

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Kind of was brought to my attention was though he stepped

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down. He's still acting.

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Council member, which plays in to how I feel about going

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forward.

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If he had no, it's my understanding, or I looked at he has

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not been at the meetings, the last two meetings.

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But if he's still by law on that council.

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Then I feel that we have to go forward.

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And.

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And make a judgment on it because he's still part of that

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world.

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And I, I would not be able to accept that complaint with

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what that happening.

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Yeah, my understanding from kind of other separate

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discussions from the city attorney's office is that.

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He even though he has the resignation has allowed the city

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to call the special election.

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But because there's no one to replace him yet, he is still

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in holdover status. So he's still technically serving.

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As district one's representative.

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But it is true he has not come to several meetings that so

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those things are both happening.

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I'll say I thought about the same thing you're thinking

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about.

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Like, what's the what is the purpose of this in this

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specific complaint?

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And part of my concern with not moving forward in the

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process is if we set some precedent that you can violate

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the ethics ordinance and then step down and then there's no

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repercussions after that.

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In this specific case.

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I mean, I don't know what that looks like. I could imagine

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based on what our ordinance says there are plenty of cases

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where someone could get elected.

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Violate the ordinance.

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And then leave and then leave resign.

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And that would have major ramifications for the city for

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contracts with the city for zoning applications for who

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knows what else things that we've talked about.

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I don't recall and however long I've been on this board.

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Talking about or thinking about ethics complaint that look

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like this.

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It's always been around financial things. It seems like

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this is a heartbreaking.

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Right. And I don't know if that's really what we're trying

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to do tonight is talk about that to me.

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It is a what is in the complaint is a would be a violation

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of the ethics ordinance.

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If we don't move forward, then we're setting a precedent

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that you can violate the ordinance.

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Then you can step. You can resign.

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And then there is nothing that happens after that related

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to the ethics ordinance.

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So to try and question playing devil advocate here.

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I don't know if that's a good question.

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I've tried to look through all this to see.

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The biggest penalty that one can get.

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Honestly, is either resign or get.

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Released kicked off the council.

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Would you agree to that?

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Is there something?

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That we have the ability to do to him that's greater than

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him being kicked off.

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Or resigning.

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The board has no power to kick anyone off the city council.

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The kind of harshest sanction that the board can issue is a

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letter of admonishment.

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I believe is the last one.

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And essentially it is recognized formally recognizing.

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That a violation occurred and that they should not have

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done that.

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But we could not say something and it's not in our minutes.

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Cause I'm on the.

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New rookie here, but that he could not run.

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For city council up for three, let's make believe three

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years.

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We have no authority to do that.

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At this stage of consideration of the question before the

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panel.

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That's something that may occur in the future.

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Okay.

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What you need to do is just decide whether it's actionable

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or not actionable.

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And then in your motion, if you could say.

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What sections of the ordinance.

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That the allegations if true would violate section.

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This and then if you want to throw in the others.

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The other ones that you cited to.

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Yeah.

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I'll amend my emotion.

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To say that I moved it.

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I moved it.

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We find that this ethics complaint is actionable.

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Based on section.

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Two dash two seven three.

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A.

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I'm sorry.

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Two dash two seven three.

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And.

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Paragraph.

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H abusive position.

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Paragraph one harassment and discrimination.

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I tried to put them both on the screen just so you can see

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the language.

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Thank you, Madison.

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Not sure how readable it is.

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So two dash two seven three.

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E.

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Paragraphs.

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One and three and two dash two seventy three.

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H.

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Paragraph one.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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So.

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I believe we need a second for this.

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Yes.

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I'll second.

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Okay.

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So the motion has been moved and seconded.

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Do we need to discuss it.

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Any further.

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I would take a look at the.

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Improper influence number one.

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Does the allegations really secure a special privilege or

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benefit for such a person or others.

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I don't know.

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You're making the findings.

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So.

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I think.

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We don't define benefits and we don't define privileges and

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the ordinance.

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I looked at that and.

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I think it could be potential benefit personal ones.

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I think it could be a good one.

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Regardless of whether we include that or not.

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I would still.

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Say this is an actionable complaint.

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I'm.

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I'm trying to.

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The next.

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Stage of the.

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Right.

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Just leave one off since it's.

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Do I have to specify which section.

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I can amend the motion.

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I'm going to say.

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I don't agree with one being included because.

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Based on the allegation.

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I don't.

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I didn't read anything where he asked.

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You know, basically.

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He.

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Gave the other people at the table.

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Drinks.

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He did not request anything from those based on what I read

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.

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So I do not think that at this point, one should be

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included in that.

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I think that part is.

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Money.

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And so I would be more comfortable just taking one off.

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I think three is clear.

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As well as the.

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Age.

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Yeah.

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If I could just add, I think to some extent, what you, what

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you decide here gives both the complainant and the respond

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ent some direction on what they need to prepare for.

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As well as gives the board direction.

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On what they are really considering.

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And I think that's a good point.

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I think that's a good point.

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Was it abusive position, harassment, discrimination, or was

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it improper influence section three.

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Or section one's right. So if you include all three, I

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think.

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The board at the hearing would need to consider all three.

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You include just those two.

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They would just consider those two. Does that help at all?

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I think that's a good point.

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The one, the two point two dash seven three.

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The other one that you were.

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We're questioning was what number, please, sir.

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Which one.

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It would be H one. So on the left side here, I don't know

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if you can read it. I can get closer, but.

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Abuse of power, abuse of position, harassment and

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discrimination. So this first paragraph.

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Is the one that was originally proposed.

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And I think that's a good point.

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