1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Good evening. It is Monday August 17th, 2026. This is a 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 special called meeting of the Board of Ethics. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,760 And it is for ethics complaint 26-002. And this is a 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,000 preliminary assessment board. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:25,000 So looking at the agenda, we have four exhibits. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,500 The first is the agenda information seat, which basically 7 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:35,250 says that tonight the only thing we need to decide if this 8 00:00:35,250 --> 00:00:40,000 is actionable or baseless. 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:47,740 So exhibit two is the complaint, which I know you have all 10 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:55,000 read. I don't know if we need to go over it any. 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,929 It's available online, so unless you need a copy, we assume 12 00:00:58,929 --> 00:01:00,000 you've read it. 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:08,120 So exhibit three is the ordinance 25-577, the ethics 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:13,000 ordinance. And then exhibit four is the process packet. 15 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:21,000 So I guess we need to just go into discussion. 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,430 As you stated, this is just to determine if the complaint 17 00:01:24,430 --> 00:01:27,569 alleges conduct that if we assume it is true would be a 18 00:01:27,569 --> 00:01:30,000 violation of the ethics ordinance. 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,340 If yes, you determine it's actionable, we'll schedule an 20 00:01:34,340 --> 00:01:38,000 evidentiary hearing, which is then when you would consider 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,469 if there's enough evidence to support that it reasonably 22 00:01:41,469 --> 00:01:44,000 occurred, violation reasonably occurred. 23 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,950 If not, then it's baseless, the complaint would be 24 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:50,319 dismissed. There's also the third option that it may be fr 25 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:54,230 ivolous, which we would then schedule a frivolity hearing if 26 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:58,000 that's the direction that you all gave. 27 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,549 The section H of the ordinance is the abusive position, 28 00:02:02,549 --> 00:02:07,000 which is what is alleged of, was indicated is what the 29 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 complainant believes was violated. 30 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,479 This does not restrict you necessarily. If there's another 31 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:16,650 section of the ordinance you believe fits more 32 00:02:16,650 --> 00:02:18,000 appropriately, you're allowed to look at that. 33 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 But this is just for reference. 34 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:26,250 So if we're talking about abuse of position, I'm open to 35 00:02:26,250 --> 00:02:29,000 discussion right now. 36 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Dustin. Does the complaint need to be here? No. 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,960 At this point, neither the complainant or respondent are 38 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,000 here to present anything. They're not required to. 39 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,099 There's no testimony from the public. This is really just y 40 00:02:45,099 --> 00:02:47,000 'all looking at what is alleged. 41 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,530 Would that even be a violation of the ordinance if we 42 00:02:50,530 --> 00:02:54,340 assume it's true? There's no real discussion of the 43 00:02:54,340 --> 00:02:56,000 evidence at this point. 44 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,319 Just what the conduct that's alleged. Does that help make 45 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:00,000 sense? 46 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Yes. 47 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:13,000 I think this is a really serious matter in front of us. 48 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:19,870 My concern is reading through the complaint and trying to 49 00:03:19,870 --> 00:03:24,000 understand what is hearsay versus what is fact. 50 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,000 And it's like he said something, he didn't say anything, 51 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 the other person doesn't want to come forward. 52 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,500 And it's very hard to rule on something when you have all 53 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:41,000 the facts in front of you. 54 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,930 You have both sides not communicating and talking to be 55 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:48,990 able to make some judgment on if it's actionable or if it's 56 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:50,000 baseless. 57 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Yeah, and the way the ordinance is set up, at this stage, 58 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,580 you're supposed to assume everything in the complaint is 59 00:03:57,580 --> 00:03:58,000 true. 60 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,060 The evidentiary hearing is then the stage, please correct 61 00:04:01,060 --> 00:04:04,000 me if I'm wrong, special counsel, 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,180 but at the evidentiary hearing stage is when you really 63 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:10,360 consider is there enough evidence to support that this 64 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,000 occurred? 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,250 And then you get the complainant side and the respondent 66 00:04:17,250 --> 00:04:20,000 side during that meeting. We don't get there if you 67 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,000 determine it's baseless, 68 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,930 because essentially what is alleged wouldn't be a violation 69 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:26,000 in any way, if that makes sense. 70 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 So tonight's hearing is really nominal data. 71 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Correct. And it's intended that way. 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 And that is the correct process. 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Okay, thank you. 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,160 Yes, and that you said you would like to start the 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,899 discussion on this specific item in the complaint, which is 76 00:04:46,899 --> 00:04:48,000 abusive position. 77 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,410 I think this falls under the first paragraph under that 78 00:04:54,410 --> 00:04:58,000 harassment discrimination. 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,339 It is unclear if the intent of the discussion and the 80 00:05:04,339 --> 00:05:10,509 complaint had anything to do with what's worded in our 81 00:05:10,509 --> 00:05:14,000 ordinances, ethnicity, race, gender, gender identity, 82 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,149 sexual orientation, marital status, parental status, or 83 00:05:18,149 --> 00:05:19,000 religion. 84 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:29,310 But the description of it does. I would consider that 85 00:05:29,310 --> 00:05:32,620 harassment based on the the described response in the 86 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:34,000 complaint letter. 87 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,149 So it, especially the report that the alleged perpetrator I 88 00:05:35,149 --> 00:05:43,329 guess repeatedly stated that they were a member of city 89 00:05:43,329 --> 00:05:49,000 council. 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Yeah, I guess I should qualify that statement. 91 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,529 The paragraph in that word and says use the officials 92 00:05:57,529 --> 00:06:02,560 position to harass or discriminate against and then what I 93 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,600 described before, and while some of the behavior may not 94 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,000 fall under under that description. 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:19,050 The fact that the respondent, according to this description 96 00:06:19,050 --> 00:06:25,709 repeatedly invoke their status or their position as a city 97 00:06:25,709 --> 00:06:28,000 council member. 98 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:36,899 Use that in throughout the conversation, and then in the 99 00:06:36,899 --> 00:06:42,000 offering of illegal substances. 100 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:49,949 And then in the screenshot that was provided with the 101 00:06:49,949 --> 00:06:58,069 complaint that I assume to be from the respondent. It 102 00:06:58,069 --> 00:06:59,620 states their name and that they're a member of the city 103 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:00,000 council. 104 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 All of those things kind of. 105 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:09,000 It's, it's almost like it was written to to meet this. 106 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,240 If it's okay, I can add something else to this outside of 107 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,000 the. 108 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,339 So one of the things we I think we're supposed to do here 109 00:07:19,339 --> 00:07:24,100 is if there's something outside some other clause in the, 110 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:26,660 in the ordinance that wasn't highlighted in the complaint 111 00:07:26,660 --> 00:07:28,000 we can bring that correct. 112 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Okay, so. 113 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:43,050 Paragraph E under the section two dash two seven three 114 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:46,000 conflicts of interest. 115 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,930 Paragraph ease improper influence says it shall be a 116 00:07:49,930 --> 00:07:54,079 violation of this article for a city official to use such a 117 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:58,040 person's official title slash position to one secure 118 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:03,000 special privileges or benefits for such person or others. 119 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,019 And then I'll skip to paragraph three, assert the prestige 120 00:08:08,019 --> 00:08:12,949 of the officials or employee city position for the purpose 121 00:08:12,949 --> 00:08:17,000 of advancing or harming private interests. 122 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,079 The description and the complaint, I think would fall under 123 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:21,000 both of those. 124 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,000 And if I could, I know. 125 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Former Councilmember Villarreal is a step down from the 126 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:37,000 council one of my first thoughts was, is this. 127 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:46,049 Do we need to do anything with this, and there's sort of 128 00:08:46,049 --> 00:08:55,110 two things that apply here one is that the date on the on a 129 00:08:55,110 --> 00:09:01,000 description and the complaint. 130 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:07,250 The member of council on May 12, so this was wall wall 131 00:09:07,250 --> 00:09:13,200 council member, Villarreal was still seated as a council 132 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,000 member, and our ordinance states. 133 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,259 In section two dash two six eight applicability paragraph 134 00:09:22,259 --> 00:09:27,539 be former city officials who separation from city service 135 00:09:27,539 --> 00:09:32,460 occurred less than one year from the date of the alleged 136 00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:35,000 violation of this article. 137 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,200 Application of this article to former city officials should 138 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,169 be limited to alleged violations that occurred during the 139 00:09:43,169 --> 00:09:45,000 term as a city official so. 140 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,120 The initial thought was, why are we looking at this if you 141 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,000 already stepped down. 142 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,000 We have to look at it it's required by our ordinance. 143 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:03,659 The council member on the date this activity reportedly 144 00:10:03,659 --> 00:10:11,159 occurred and step down, but the is still subject to the 145 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:17,000 ordinance because it's within one year of. 146 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 It's within one year the alleged violation occurred. 147 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,000 I think that's a pretty good summary. 148 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Do you have anything else. 149 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,340 I for this for this preliminary hearing, I don't know that 150 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:41,000 there's anything else that I would like to say. 151 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:51,429 Other than, I wouldn't. I'll make a motion that this is an 152 00:10:51,429 --> 00:10:54,070 actionable complaint and should be should move forward in 153 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,000 the process to. 154 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Evidence your hearing. 155 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Okay, so. 156 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,090 Do I hear a second or do we need to have more discussion 157 00:11:04,090 --> 00:11:06,000 before we move to that point. 158 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:14,000 I'm just thinking, you know, I understand what he's saying. 159 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Again, I feel like that. 160 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Since. 161 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:32,470 The councilman step down, I'm not sure I'll put it in lay 162 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:40,000 man's words on what is the end game. 163 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Guilty or innocent. 164 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:52,000 I'm not sure. 165 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,080 So, you know, I I'm not going to lose sleep over making it 166 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,000 actionable. 167 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 But I, I, I feel like that we're going one more step that. 168 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Since he's resigned, I'm not sure. 169 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Why, with the exception of I think Dustin did read 170 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,000 something that that I read myself about the one year. 171 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 And I thought to myself. 172 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Oh, we've got to pay attention to this for one more year. 173 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 For this gentleman, even though he stepped down. 174 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 The other thing that. 175 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,559 Kind of was brought to my attention was though he stepped 176 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,000 down. He's still acting. 177 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,009 Council member, which plays in to how I feel about going 178 00:12:36,009 --> 00:12:37,000 forward. 179 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,129 If he had no, it's my understanding, or I looked at he has 180 00:12:41,129 --> 00:12:45,000 not been at the meetings, the last two meetings. 181 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 But if he's still by law on that council. 182 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Then I feel that we have to go forward. 183 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 And. 184 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,330 And make a judgment on it because he's still part of that 185 00:12:57,330 --> 00:12:58,000 world. 186 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,480 And I, I would not be able to accept that complaint with 187 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,000 what that happening. 188 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,860 Yeah, my understanding from kind of other separate 189 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:09,000 discussions from the city attorney's office is that. 190 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,159 He even though he has the resignation has allowed the city 191 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,000 to call the special election. 192 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,529 But because there's no one to replace him yet, he is still 193 00:13:17,529 --> 00:13:21,000 in holdover status. So he's still technically serving. 194 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 As district one's representative. 195 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,549 But it is true he has not come to several meetings that so 196 00:13:27,549 --> 00:13:30,000 those things are both happening. 197 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,200 I'll say I thought about the same thing you're thinking 198 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,000 about. 199 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,070 Like, what's the what is the purpose of this in this 200 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:41,000 specific complaint? 201 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,929 And part of my concern with not moving forward in the 202 00:13:44,929 --> 00:13:48,850 process is if we set some precedent that you can violate 203 00:13:48,850 --> 00:13:51,610 the ethics ordinance and then step down and then there's no 204 00:13:51,610 --> 00:13:53,000 repercussions after that. 205 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,000 In this specific case. 206 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,980 I mean, I don't know what that looks like. I could imagine 207 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:04,899 based on what our ordinance says there are plenty of cases 208 00:14:04,899 --> 00:14:07,000 where someone could get elected. 209 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Violate the ordinance. 210 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 And then leave and then leave resign. 211 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,789 And that would have major ramifications for the city for 212 00:14:16,789 --> 00:14:21,549 contracts with the city for zoning applications for who 213 00:14:21,549 --> 00:14:26,000 knows what else things that we've talked about. 214 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,000 I don't recall and however long I've been on this board. 215 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,879 Talking about or thinking about ethics complaint that look 216 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:36,000 like this. 217 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:43,000 It's always been around financial things. It seems like 218 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 this is a heartbreaking. 219 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,330 Right. And I don't know if that's really what we're trying 220 00:14:49,330 --> 00:14:52,000 to do tonight is talk about that to me. 221 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:57,490 It is a what is in the complaint is a would be a violation 222 00:14:57,490 --> 00:14:59,000 of the ethics ordinance. 223 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:05,409 If we don't move forward, then we're setting a precedent 224 00:15:05,409 --> 00:15:07,000 that you can violate the ordinance. 225 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Then you can step. You can resign. 226 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,009 And then there is nothing that happens after that related 227 00:15:14,009 --> 00:15:16,000 to the ethics ordinance. 228 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,000 So to try and question playing devil advocate here. 229 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:29,000 I don't know if that's a good question. 230 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,000 I've tried to look through all this to see. 231 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 The biggest penalty that one can get. 232 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Honestly, is either resign or get. 233 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Released kicked off the council. 234 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Would you agree to that? 235 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Is there something? 236 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,340 That we have the ability to do to him that's greater than 237 00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:50,000 him being kicked off. 238 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Or resigning. 239 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,000 The board has no power to kick anyone off the city council. 240 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,990 The kind of harshest sanction that the board can issue is a 241 00:15:58,990 --> 00:16:01,000 letter of admonishment. 242 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 I believe is the last one. 243 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,000 And essentially it is recognized formally recognizing. 244 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,389 That a violation occurred and that they should not have 245 00:16:11,389 --> 00:16:12,000 done that. 246 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,000 But we could not say something and it's not in our minutes. 247 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Cause I'm on the. 248 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000 New rookie here, but that he could not run. 249 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,429 For city council up for three, let's make believe three 250 00:16:23,429 --> 00:16:24,000 years. 251 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 We have no authority to do that. 252 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,100 At this stage of consideration of the question before the 253 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:32,000 panel. 254 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 That's something that may occur in the future. 255 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Okay. 256 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,879 What you need to do is just decide whether it's actionable 257 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:40,000 or not actionable. 258 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,000 And then in your motion, if you could say. 259 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 What sections of the ordinance. 260 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,000 That the allegations if true would violate section. 261 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 This and then if you want to throw in the others. 262 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 The other ones that you cited to. 263 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Yeah. 264 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 I'll amend my emotion. 265 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,000 To say that I moved it. 266 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 I moved it. 267 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,000 We find that this ethics complaint is actionable. 268 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Based on section. 269 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Two dash two seven three. 270 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 A. 271 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,000 I'm sorry. 272 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Two dash two seven three. 273 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,000 And. 274 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Paragraph. 275 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 H abusive position. 276 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Paragraph one harassment and discrimination. 277 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,750 I tried to put them both on the screen just so you can see 278 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:47,000 the language. 279 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Thank you, Madison. 280 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Not sure how readable it is. 281 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 So two dash two seven three. 282 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 E. 283 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Paragraphs. 284 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,000 One and three and two dash two seventy three. 285 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 H. 286 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Paragraph one. 287 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Okay. 288 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Yes. 289 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 So. 290 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 I believe we need a second for this. 291 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Yes. 292 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,000 I'll second. 293 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Okay. 294 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 So the motion has been moved and seconded. 295 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Do we need to discuss it. 296 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Any further. 297 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 I would take a look at the. 298 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Improper influence number one. 299 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,839 Does the allegations really secure a special privilege or 300 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,000 benefit for such a person or others. 301 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 I don't know. 302 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 You're making the findings. 303 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 So. 304 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 I think. 305 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,329 We don't define benefits and we don't define privileges and 306 00:18:43,329 --> 00:18:45,000 the ordinance. 307 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:51,000 I looked at that and. 308 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:57,000 I think it could be potential benefit personal ones. 309 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 I think it could be a good one. 310 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Regardless of whether we include that or not. 311 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 I would still. 312 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Say this is an actionable complaint. 313 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 I'm. 314 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 I'm trying to. 315 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 The next. 316 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Stage of the. 317 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Right. 318 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Just leave one off since it's. 319 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Do I have to specify which section. 320 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 I can amend the motion. 321 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 I'm going to say. 322 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,000 I don't agree with one being included because. 323 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Based on the allegation. 324 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 I don't. 325 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000 I didn't read anything where he asked. 326 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 You know, basically. 327 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 He. 328 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Gave the other people at the table. 329 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Drinks. 330 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:55,579 He did not request anything from those based on what I read 331 00:19:55,579 --> 00:19:56,000 . 332 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,769 So I do not think that at this point, one should be 333 00:19:58,769 --> 00:20:00,000 included in that. 334 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 I think that part is. 335 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Money. 336 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 And so I would be more comfortable just taking one off. 337 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 I think three is clear. 338 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 As well as the. 339 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Age. 340 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Yeah. 341 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,180 If I could just add, I think to some extent, what you, what 342 00:20:24,180 --> 00:20:26,440 you decide here gives both the complainant and the respond 343 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,000 ent some direction on what they need to prepare for. 344 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,000 As well as gives the board direction. 345 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 On what they are really considering. 346 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:43,000 And I think that's a good point. 347 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 I think that's a good point. 348 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,440 Was it abusive position, harassment, discrimination, or was 349 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,000 it improper influence section three. 350 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Or section one's right. So if you include all three, I 351 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,000 think. 352 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 The board at the hearing would need to consider all three. 353 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 You include just those two. 354 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 They would just consider those two. Does that help at all? 355 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000 I think that's a good point. 356 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,000 The one, the two point two dash seven three. 357 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 The other one that you were. 358 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 We're questioning was what number, please, sir. 359 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Which one. 360 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,230 It would be H one. So on the left side here, I don't know 361 00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:25,000 if you can read it. I can get closer, but. 362 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,430 Abuse of power, abuse of position, harassment and 363 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:30,000 discrimination. So this first paragraph. 364 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Is the one that was originally proposed. 365 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 And I think that's a good point. 366 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 I think that's a good point. 367 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 I think that's a good point. 368 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 I think that's a good point. 369 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 I think that's a good point. 370 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 I think that's a good point. 371 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 I think that's a good point. 372 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 I think that's a good point. 373 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 I think that's a good point. 374 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 I think that's a good point. 375 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 I think that's a good point. 376 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 I think that's a good point. 377 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 I think that's a good point. 378 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 I think that's a good point. 379 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 I think that's a good point. 380 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 I think that's a good point. 381 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I think that's a good point. 382 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 I think that's a good point. 383 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 I think that's a good point. 384 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 I think that's a good point. 385 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 I think that's a good point. 386 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 I think that's a good point. 387 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 I think that's a good point. 388 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 I think that's a good point. 389 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 I think that's a good point. 390 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 I think that's a good point. 391 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 I think that's a good point. 392 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 I think that's a good point. 393 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 I think that's a good point. 394 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 I think that's a good point. 395 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 I think that's a good point. 396 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 I think that's a good point. 397 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 I think that's a good point. 398 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 I think that's a good point. 399 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 I think that's a good point. 400 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 I think that's a good point. 401 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 I think that's a good point. 402 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 I think that's a good point. 403 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 I think that's a good point. 404 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 I think that's a good point. 405 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 I think that's a good point. 406 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 I think that's a good point. 407 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 I think that's a good point. 408 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 I think that's a good point. 409 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 I think that's a good point. 410 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 I think that's 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00:24:42,000 I think that's a good point. 459 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 I think that's a good point. 460 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 I think that's a good point. 461 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 I think that's a good point. 462 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 I think that's a good point. 463 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 I think that's a good point. 464 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 I think that's a good point. 465 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 I think that's a good point. 466 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000 I think that's a good point. 467 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 I think that's a good point. 468 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I think that's a good point. 469 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 I think that's a good point. 470 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 I think that's a good point. 471 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 I think that's a good point. 472 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 I think that's a good point. 473 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 I think that's a good point. 474 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 I think that's a good point. 475 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 I think that's a good point. 476 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 I think that's a good point. 477 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 I think that's a good point. 478 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 I think that's a good point. 479 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 I think that's a good point. 480 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 I think that's a good point. 481 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 I think that's a good point. 482 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 I think that's a good point. 483 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 I think that's a good point. 484 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 I think that's a good point. 485 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 I think that's a good point. 486 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 I think that's a good point. 487 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 I think that's a good point. 488 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 I think that's a good point. 489 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 I think that's a good 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I think that's a good point. 538 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 I think that's a good point. 539 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 I think that's a good point. 540 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 I think that's a good point. 541 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 I think that's a good point. 542 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 I think that's a good point. 543 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 I think that's a good point. 544 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 I think that's a good point. 545 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 I think that's a good point. 546 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 I think that's a good point. 547 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 I think that's a good point. 548 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 I think that's a good point. 549 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 I think that's a good point. 550 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 I think that's a good point. 551 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 I think that's a good point. 552 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 I think that's a good point. 553 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 I think that's a good point. 554 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 I think that's a good point. 555 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 I think that's a good point. 556 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 I think that's a good point. 557 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 I think that's a good point. 558 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 I think that's a good point. 559 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 I think that's a good point. 560 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 I think that's a good point. 561 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 I think that's a good point. 562 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000 I think that's a good point. 563 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 I think that's a good point. 564 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 I think that's a good point. 565 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 I think that's a good point. 566 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 I think that's a good point. 567 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 I think that's a good point. 568 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 I think that's a good point. 569 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 I think that's a good point. 570 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 I think that's a good point. 571 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 I think that's a good point. 572 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 I think that's a good point. 573 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 I think that's a good point. 574 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 I think that's a good point. 575 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 I think that's a good point. 576 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000 I think that's a good point. 577 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 I think that's a good point. 578 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 I think that's a good point. 579 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 I think that's a good point. 580 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 I think that's a good point. 581 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 I think that's a good point. 582 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000 I think that's a good point. 583 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 I think that's a good point. 584 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 I think that's a good point. 585 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 I think that's a good point. 586 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 I think that's a good point. 587 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 I think that's a good point. 588 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 I think that's a good point. 589 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 I think that's a good point. 590 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000 I think that's a good point. 591 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 I think that's a good point. 592 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 I think that's a good point. 593 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000 I think that's a good point. 594 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 I think that's a good point. 595 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 I think that's a good point. 596 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 I think that's a good point. 597 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 I think that's a good point. 598 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 I think that's a good point. 599 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 I think that's a good point. 600 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 I think that's a good point. 601 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000 I think that's a good point. 602 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 I think that's a good point. 603 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 I think that's a good point. 604 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 I think that's a good point. 605 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000 I think that's a good point. 606 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 I think that's a good point. 607 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 I think that's a good point. 608 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 I think that's a good point. 609 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 I think that's a good point. 610 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 I think that's a good point. 611 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 I think that's a good point. 612 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000 I think that's a good point. 613 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 I think that's a good point. 614 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000 I think that's a good point. 615 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 I think that's a good point. 616 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 I think that's a good point. 617 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 I think that's a good point. 618 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 I think that's a good point.