>> I have determined that a quorum is present.
So we'll be convening this meeting of the mobility committee at nine o'clock.
And we'll move into the items for individual consideration.
Item A, consider the approval of the meeting minutes of December 10, 2019.
I'll entertain a motion.
Move approval.
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye. >> Aye.
>> Okay, eight minutes are approved.
Item B, you receive a report and hold the discussion regarding updates from the Denton
County Transportation Department, and we have guests.
>> Good morning.
Nicole Rucker and Troy Rayleigh from DCTA.
We are going to be providing a brief update.
We are in a busy season working on service changes and then obviously with UNT, their
semester beginning this week has been a pretty busy week for us.
I have mentioned in the past that DCTA is currently undergoing what we are calling a
transformation initiative that includes an efficiency study.
And we are doing a workshop with our board of directors on the 23rd of this month to
go through that final scope of work.
So we are on schedule to make a recommendation for consultants to come in and do that study,
probably March timeframe, if everything goes according to plan.
And so as part of that transformation study, they will be looking at overall system efficiency.
They will also be looking at, you know, how funding is spent, what type of service we
have on the road, where service is located.
They will be working with our board of directors on some visioning sessions to determine kind
of what is this new board's vision for DCTA.
So some pretty big changes, I am assuming some really good changes will be coming down
the line, and I am excited to report on those once we have a little bit more information.
Yes?
And on the consultant, is this the first time in the history of DCTA that they have done
something like, or is this pretty consistent?
So what is, we have done what we call comprehensive operational analysis, and so that is pretty
consistent about every five years as a part of our long range planning.
We have a consultant come in and kind of look at our service area, where we offer service,
the type of service that we are offering, the type of services that are out there.
In conjunction, we have done efficiency studies separate, so this is going to be the first
time that it is all going to be kind of one complete study, and so I think the differentiator
with this study is that the consultant is going to be coming in and looking at our service
area as a blank slate, whereas before when we do a comprehensive operational analysis,
typically a planning consultant would come in and kind of look at the service that you
currently have on the road and determine how that can be modified, and so you end up with
a little bit of a different result than if somebody is looking at it as like a blank
slate, determining kind of, these are going to be your service parameters, and then determining
what type of service is out on the road.
So we are excited about that.
I will continue to update the committee on the progression with that transformation study.
Some exciting news that we have to announce is that effective yesterday, we launched a
new route, named to be determined at this point, to serve Monsignor King and our Daily
Bread.
So we have two morning shuttles that are serving those locations, and they serve Monsignor
King, they have a stop at Morrison Woodrow where it connects to Route 2, they connect
to the DDTC and then to our Daily Bread.
So there's two morning shuttles, right now we're offering that service free of charge.
That is a board of director decision as to what the fare structure of that particular
service is, and so we'll be taking that to our board on the 23rd as well.
That's great.
So we're very excited, we've been working very closely with the city as well as Monsignor
King and our Daily Bread, and we're going to be kind of pushing the word out this week
to start letting people know of that service, and get them where they need to be.
And then lastly, we are in the midst of service changes that will be happening in February.
So we have been talking a lot about the construction in Denton, and how completion of construction
is allowing us to revert back to prior routes.
So we have several different changes that are happening.
So the Denton Enterprise Airport Zone, which was an on-demand service, will be cancelled.
That service is being cancelled.
We have about five existing passengers.
We're working with them to determine what their mode of transit will be moving forward.
We are making changes to Route 3, 4, and 7, and then we are adjusting 5 of our UNT routes.
So those are the changes that will be impacting Denton, and if you have specific questions
about those route changes, Troy can talk about it in detail.
And that is the conclusion of my report if there are no other questions.
Thank you, thank you for coming, I always appreciate that.
All right, we'll move on to item C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff
direction regarding parking restrictions at the south side of East Windsor Drive between
Hanover Drive and Greenwood Lane adjacent to Wilson Elementary School.
There was something, Glenwood.
Good morning.
Okay.
Not Greenwood.
Glenwood.
Greenwood is the round, that's the other map.
Good morning, Brian Yon, traffic engineer.
I'm going to try to make this as brief as possible.
In December, I think it was the December 13th, staff met with ISD and the staff at Wilson
Elementary to determine what we're going to do as construction really ramps up, and their
concern were specifically regarding some pedestrian activity and some parking activity.
So as a result of that meeting, the ISD sent us a letter where they were requesting us
to consider several different things.
They wanted us to put some additional crossing guard out, they wanted some hallway stops,
and I'll show you these in a minute.
They wanted some parking removal so that would precipitate a better circulation pattern around.
They were doing some pedestrian safety measures because one of the sidewalks is too close
to the construction area, and we took that and we're moving forward with that, and I
will now show you what we're talking about today.
So in this image, you'll see Wilson Elementary, the campus is on the south side, the east-west
street is Windsor, and then you've got Glenwood and Hanover.
Currently there's a parking allowed on the south side of Windsor adjacent to the campus.
What that does is people will park there and then during the pick-up and drop-off, people
queue in the thru-link.
So traffic that's not associated with the school is forced into either the center left
turn lane or possibly encroaching into the oncoming lane, and what this will allow, this
removal of this parking area, we're going to restrict the parking between Hanover and
Glenwood on Windsor, it'll allow that curb lane to become what is intended, what originally
intended as a queuing lane.
So the cars will stack and move around in progression and pick up and leave the campus.
That will leave the thru-link, the west, excuse me, the eastbound thru-link, open for traffic.
So people need to go around the queue if they decide they're not going to change their plan
or if they're not associated with that pick-up and drop-off, they're not going to be inhibited
by that activity.
The school is in support of this and right now it's primarily construction workers that
are parking there, and they wanted this in place when the construction really starts
at the end of January.
So we're taking this, we took it to Traffic Safety Commission, we're taking it to Mobility
Today and then at 28 the council will see the full ordinance removing the parking and
placing that restriction during school hours.
So overnight parking and people across the street have guests or on weekends they'll
still be able to park there, but during those school hours we're going to restrict that.
So, let me, let me, if I can find, no it's not, let's hope it doesn't work on here, I
want to just summarize some of the other, okay, so in this picture no parking is adjacent
to the campus, but this is part of a package that we're going to put in place for the school
during construction.
We're going to put an always stop at Longfellow and Windsor and we're going to add a crossing
guard.
And we're going to put an always stop at Emerson and Glenwood where there already is a crossing
guard.
In addition, we're moving, this is the sidewalk on the south side of Windsor that is too close
for the construction, the school district is not comfortable leaving that open.
So we're going to move the pedestrian activity to the north side of Windsor, we're going
to, and there's a, if you look, there's a bike lane, we're going to widen that bike
lane a few feet and encroach on the existing lane.
We've got a lot of pavement that we can narrow some lanes down, center left turn lane, etcetera,
but we're going to place a physical barrier, either the water filled barriers or concrete
barriers, something that's a positive, it's not the pylons, it's a positive barrier that
will keep a vehicle out of that bike lane because we're going to use that bike lane
as a sidewalk and it's going to be a multipurpose lane basically, pedestrians and cyclists.
And that's going to extend, excuse me, basically from Hanover all the way to Longfellow and
then we're going to cross the kids back to the south side of Windsor and Longfellow with
the crossing guard.
So we're going to push them all to the north and then pull them back across because this,
you've got two construction entrances here adjacent to the campus, large vehicles and
children typically don't mix very well.
So that's again, and we're moving the parking here so that will also just kind of free up
the space so that we don't have a vehicle and construction traffic making as much.
You'll realize this is a multi-dimensional puzzle, so you're going to get probably on
something, somewhere, but let's say the obvious point, putting bikes and pedestrians together
doesn't seem like 100% as you know either.
Well and that's why we're going to widen it.
We're going to take, we're going to get, we're going to give it instead of like a five foot
lane, we'll probably leave it an eight to ten foot lane.
We've got the room in here because the center left turn lane currently didn't serve anything.
So we've got a lot of pavement where we can actually realign that vehicular traffic and
provide enough space for it.
There's several ways you can do it.
You can actually put markings down that says bikes on this side, heads on this side.
The multi-purpose lane is not, it's not a new concept.
It's used very successfully in a lot of places.
So it's just, there's no, there's no cost effective way to build the sidewalks because
if you want to build a sidewalk on the north side, you're going to end up reconstructing
that three or four driveways as well.
So we've already got a bike lane and we thought it would be the easiest and the safe solution
as long as we put a physical barrier between the vehicular traffic and the pet and bike
traffic.
Something solid.
Thoughts to have though.
Questions?
Comments?
Question?
If you're putting that physical barrier then are we basically saying no parking on the
north side or is it already?
It's already because it's a bike lane.
Nothing.
Really?
I think this is your home person.
And actually it's not, it's not no parking.
People park on the other side all the time.
If it's not an actual bike lane, it's a parking lane and a bike lane.
So we're going to legitimize the bike portion.
Is there any benefit?
I just threw it out because it occurs to me it's a possibility, I'm not proposing it
necessarily.
Any benefit to making that southern side no parking between certain hours?
And that's what we're going to do.
School hours.
Oh okay.
There's no good way to do, and I've done this in other cities where you do seven to
nine and two to four because there's no way if a vehicle's there, there's no way to move
it if you can't find the person who owns the car.
So we're just going to no park it from seven to four, and that leaves a queuing lane.
That's what we're really trying to get back to is get the queued cars that will pick
up and drop off out of the thrift lane.
What was the community reaction to the meeting?
Well this was the principal and DISD.
Oh.
The community I've talked to and their one concern is the four-way stop up a little further.
At Longfellow.
At Longfellow, that that's going to cause traffic back up from Sherman.
Yeah.
And we've looked at that, there's a lot of distance between Longfellow and Sherman, and
we do not believe that you're going to have a, just because the cross traffic is, if you
had a busy all-way intersection, or all four legs are really loaded, and then you put an
all-way stop, then you have to take turns all the way around.
But Longfellow doesn't carry the traffic that Windsor does, so Windsor's, you're going to
have the opportunity to pull up and go, because you're not going to have anybody crossing.
So you have to make a stop, but you're not going to have to stop and then wait for all
the other three legs to go.
So we've looked at it, we do not believe it's going to be a problem, just because you've
got enough, and you've got enough distance to stack a few cars between Longfellow and
Sherman.
And the other question on that was, can it not just be the same as, you know, the no
parking, like the stop during, you know, school hours?
Right.
It's really difficult to do a time-of-day stop.
It's, now I will say, what I did mention, one of the features we're going to add to
both the Longfellow stop and the stop at Emerson and Glenwood, to facilitate, for the crossing
guards, we're going to put a push button LED activation.
So the stop signs are going to have the LEDs around the edge, we've got those around town.
They're not going to, they're not going to turn on until somebody actually activates that.
So when a pedestrian, in this case, we're really focusing on the crossing guards, when
the crossing guards have got a platoon of children trying to cross the street, you push
this, you push the button, and all four directions, the LEDs begin to stroke.
So it's just a matter of another visual cue to a driver, something's different, those
don't usually flash, what's going on?
And so we're going to try that, and if it's successful, we're going to probably roll that
out in other areas of town where we've got high volumes of pedestrians and high volumes
of cars.
Just one more tool, a toolbox.
Complicated situation.
I wish you Godspeed.
I hope it all works.
Thank you.
Any objections, comments?
Yes.
It's for the construction time period.
Correct.
Now our suspicion is that, even though you say that they're not comfortable or not convinced
about the always stop at Longfellow, our suspicion is that they're going to learn to like it.
If we do it, we may do an analysis that shows it needs to stay, really we're going to find
out.
It may last longer than the construction is my concern, and the no parking I think should.
This is not going to be just a construction, so I think this is going to be a solution
where after the school is completed, they're going to have enough parking on campus.
That curbside parking, well, that curbside parking I think is, again, needs to stay with
the queuing activity, so I think that would probably make sense to me.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
We move on to item D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, give staff direction on system
quarter budget prioritization.
Good morning.
Pretendation.
Debit city engineer and?
I think we ought to prioritize the ones that are not funded.
Exactly.
The ones that are not funded.
We started the discussion last time we were here, and I'm going to start with where the
on system report is, and one of the things here, if you can see, as John had pointed
out in the previous meeting, that anything that says TBD on some of these projects, those
are the ones that are not really funded, and those can be included in our prioritization,
but there are some segments here that are not included, and that would be priority for
the city at some point, just given that things are developing so quickly.
So as you can see, this is the on systems map.
These gray segments are also on system, so none of them don't show up as distinctly,
but as you can see, all these darker segments, the majority of them are getting widened or
under construction or under consideration.
You can see 1515 is under consideration.
It's under design.
Loop is missing here, but you have loop on this side of it, 2449.
Teasley is underway.
You have 377.
This red portion is under construction, so a lot of this is already being considered
by Tegspot.
A lot of activity on 35, 35E, and 35W.
So our primary focus was what is the main important -- what are the segments that are
important for the city, and as you can see, there's a lot of growth in the southern section.
FM 1830 is very important, just getting the north-south connection and further south outside
of the city.
Same thing with the remaining portion of 377, where it goes all the way to the city limits,
and then 428 is our northern connection.
So those are the three that are really important as far as getting them expedited, getting
them on someone's radar, getting them at least at a regional level, getting them noticed
so that we help expedite some of these corridor recruitment processes.
So based on the on-system report, you can see that FM 428 is not funded, and none of
the other segments are within this list.
So I think based on all these different things, we would recommend that these three segments
be prioritized, and they would be top on our priority list as far as when we go for regional
funding and when we go for what are the corridors that you want to expedite.
These would be our main, and the others, there's one on here that says TBD, and there is development
coming in that part of the world.
I think there is an item for consideration in the next couple of weeks with Coal Hunter,
and it's an ongoing discussion.
But we need to start a conversation about some of this large project, and John can talk
to that if it's funded and how much it's funded or not, but that can also be our priority.
So that's what staff recommends.
A lot of these streets are already covered, and 380 is under design, and will be soon
under construction with medians and widening, so any questions, I mean, a lot of these corridors
are already in there.
>> I missed your section prioritization, I didn't hear actual streets.
>> So the sections are 1830 from FM 1830 from 377 all the way to the southern city limits,
377 just south of 1830 all the way to the city limits, and then on north side FM 428
from Luke 288 all the way to the city limits.
Those are our main streets that are coming in that are not getting widened or improved
or upgraded.
TSLE is getting improved, 35E obviously, there are several projects going on.
So these are the three corridors that are going to see influx of traffic in New Hampshire.
Those are on our priority list.
Any questions?
Any other corridors?
>> Yeah.
>> Yes.
>> So thank you for that.
>> My pleasure.
Is the exit at 380 and 35, is that funded?
>> That, I think John can cover.
>> Because that would be, it needs to be done.
And I don't know if that's part of the larger project or that's funded or --
>> Is that the section up by Razor Ranch?
>> Yes.
>> That's covered in that 800 million dollar job.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> I don't know if that's part of the larger project or that's funded.
>> Is that the section up by Razor Ranch?
>> Yes.
>> That's covered in that 800 million dollar job.
>> Okay.
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done at 380 and 35.
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>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 35.
>> Okay.
>> So it's funded, but it's part of a larger project, so relief is probably going to be
done at 380 and 30, and then this would be the last, 377 is the fourth priority that we
have.
>> Okay.
>> Great.
Good discussion.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> All right.
That's a bunch of you related to item E, received a report and hold a discussion regarding
textile on system projects.
What happened to you?
>> I jumped out of the elevator.
>> Today?
>> No.
I jumped out of the elevator.
>> I jumped out of the elevator.
>> And this is a project that has six working days.
Work weeks, they can work 24 hours if they want.
And there's no rain delay, no weather delay.
So it's a calendar contract project.
So they've got to hit that date or face the liquidated damages.
Alright, the Fort Worth Drive Project.
They continue to finish out the punch list on your sanitary sewer.
They're working on your water lines as well.
They're a little bit further behind on that than the sanitary sewer.
They completed the chute line.
They're now working on the bridge structure for the permanent location for the Union Pacific Railroad.
And there's really nothing impacting this project other than the bridge.
They continue to work on the bridge, but we're on track for that.
And we're still looking at November 2020 plus whatever the time impact analysis ends up being could add 20 or 30 days to the timing of the project,
depending upon what the negotiations are between the city, Tech Stock, and the contractor.
But all seems to be going well on this project.
Your 35 Mayhill project.
There are 39 parcels.
We've got 20 of them in the domain, which sounds bad, but really that means we know the schedule on them because we can set the schedule, have the meetings, post registry, take possession.
So we're moving pretty quick on that.
We think that by spring of next year we'll have the right of way acquired on it.
Working on the we've had the level B suit with the utility underground utility analysis.
And we've started coordinating on the 19th of December with those providers, including most importantly, the city to make sure that we're aware of what's in the ground and what we need to do to get it out of the way.
Brinker project. So all your main lanes are open to traffic up on top.
You've got your southbound Dallas Drive entrance to 35 southbound open to traffic.
And right now they're working on the north side of 288 on the southbound frontage road.
So it's in that strapping and then they're working inside the loop 288 under underpass under 35 trying to finish playing the asphalt to close out that project.
And we're hoping by the end of January for this whole project to be completed.
And I promised to the mayor at RTC that we try to have it done so we can have as part of the state of the city message that it actually didn't get done.
But we'll see.
All right. You're 35 E 35 35 W merge.
Project that there are 15 parcels, which I would have thought there were more, but they're large tracks.
We're moving pretty quick on that. So by summer of next year, we should have all the right of way acquired.
Com is doing the construction document for this. And we are this schedule of ready late of July 2021 also includes this next segment up to Fort Worth Drive.
This is a segment that we will pull out of the 35 North job and include in the wishbone project. And we met with text up right before Christmas and they agreed to combine the two.
And we'll start seeing a report that comes to us that combines the wishbone with this northern part of the northern segment.
And that schedule is for the remainder of the project, which I'll get to in a second. And we're going to focus on July 2021 is the time frame to get this project under construction, which is essentially 18 months from now, which is fairly fast for text back projects.
We're going backwards. And then the segment two, they're looking at breaking this project up again into two segments, probably right around 455 at Sanger.
And the reason that is, is that we have another project in the county where we're constructing 455 from the high school east of 35 all the way up to 2450 2450.
Which is out by Bolivar and we pulled out the interchange at 35 to put into the 455 project because 455 is going to get there before the 35 project is let.
And so it'll be for I mean, 77 to 455 455 interchange is a separate project in the north of 455 to the county line is a third project, three of the contractors.
The main lanes again, these are on hold until the frontage roads are done. You look here on the frontage roads and we are in the process of getting this thing cleared in June of next year.
And because we've got it fairly tight on the schedule for getting it done next year, we have submitted this project for clear lanes funding. So if they give us any portion of the $295 million for the frontage roads, then we will build segments at a time.
From what tech stops telling us and what the traffic shows will probably start somewhere in the northern part where all of the development from Hillwood and all those ranches that are being converted will probably start somewhere in that section to the north of this project.
So we don't have to build all the frontage roads at once. We can build them in logical sections between cross streets. And it looks like the northern part of this project is where the priority is for the volume development and the city.
So again, right now it's not funded, but hopefully within the next 18 months by the time we get the project cleared and start acquiring right away, we will have it funded, some portion.
380 east we have text that has decided they will split this project. Probably before spring we'll get a notice that they're splitting it they've got certifications from all of the utility providers that are listed down here that they can meet the schedule text
that wants to do to pursue. And once they get that certification completely wrapped up, then they will provide the area office with a notice that they were going to move forward on the green segment first.
And then we'll adjust the schedule accordingly.
My comment or questions about that last bullet point here, the city participation and the sidewalk from Mayhill to the Green Belt. And that's been funded. Is that going to, will that wait until this or what is the timeline?
The Green Belt is in that segment that's in the green, so when the Green Project goes, the Green Belt section of the project will go as well. And you already actually created agreement a year or so ago, or more.
So it will go as part of the Green Project.
Okay, and that's the first section?
Yes ma'am.
That's green right?
It is.
Okay, I don't have a really good understanding of the colors.
All right, as we talked about earlier, Look 280 West, this project, we're looking at the spring of next year being environmentally cleared. There are quite a few parcels to be acquired, but the big issue is the negotiations on all of the gas wells and their transmission lines, that have been problematic in the past in other areas of the state where they've had to deal with it.
Spring of this year, you mean?
Did I say spring?
You said spring of next year.
I'm already, I'm still in 2019, my apologies. Yes, spring of this year. My apologies. April 2020, how's that?
I didn't know if there was a delay in the process.
No, no, no. If there was, it would be highlighted. I may be wrong, but my staff isn't.
It's April 20.
FM 1515, we had a good meeting on this project.
I think the city agreed, I think Robin is going to take all the 1515 Bonnie Bray and the 35 Wishbone and overlay it onto one aerial to make sure that we're not building bridges to nowhere. But we had a very good conversation right before the holidays with Tech Stock.
I think we've got it roped on what we're going to do. And we are pursuing an environmental clearance by fall of this year, September 20. And again, this project isn't funded, but it's priority to the state to get it resolved. So I'm fairly confident by the time we start acquiring right away, we'll have some commitment from the state on the funding for this project.
For Act 1173, we continue to pursue the schematic approval. We should have a couple of months approved. Once we get that, we'll have a better schedule for the environmental clearance, which will then inform us on the right-of-way and utility schedule.
We have ensured that the project Wishbone in the segment to the north of 380 includes Act 1173 in its realigned location as opposed to its existing location. And the coordination on that is occurring right now because when we go to acquire the right-of-way for 35, we have to also work with that property owner because of the future alignment on 1173.
Because what we try to do, when the county, or I'm assuming the city is the same way, whenever we impact a property owner for a state facility, and there's more than one state facility there, we try to get the state to think far enough ahead to deal with that property owner on all of those issues at once because having your tooth pulled is bad enough.
Having it done twice is twice as bad. So we try to get them to coordinate those efforts.
Okay, so this is a project where we pretend we're looking at all the trauma that's going to come to the city in the future, and we say 428 doesn't need to be an arterial, it needs to be a limited-access facility.
We went and met with COG, they agreed. We're going to have a conference call with the RTC and staff before the end of the month.
They want to talk about all of the projects in your bond program and how they can help fund those and prioritize those, assist you in prioritizing those financially.
And then the other thing he brought up is the outer load is putting a lot of pressure on the region at this point to move forward, especially in the Collin and Ditton County areas.
And he wants to have a conversation with the city related to the outer load, 428, and what impact that occurs on the 2AX segment from essentially 428 over to 35. So we should have, by the next meeting, have a little bit more information on this project and this project.
Can you go back to that? So that intersection there with the little green cross there, I have had many complaints about the pavement there.
I forget what people call it, but it's like one layer and then the other layer is like real bumpy. And someone has a really special name for that. Is that ever going to be fixed?
So are we talking right under the bridge or are we talking south of the bridge?
Just north of it too. It's all in that area.
It's all in that area and it's really bad. The pavement has like, it's real bumpy and melted or wobbly.
So the thing is like, what happens is the asphalt gets hot and then as you come in 60 miles an hour to that intersection and you come to break, it pushes the pavement.
It washboards it like that.
That's it, washboard. That's the word.
That's the table.
So the reason I was asking, I think anything north of the Loop 280 that's not city maintained.
Right, so we have the area office. If we can do that, I think we have a meeting next week.
Where is it this week?
This week.
So we'll work at that and then anything inside the Loop, I think we'll talk to our street recruits and see if there's an intermediate fix.
Actually I'm looking at the street, I think most of the washboard is happening north of the Loop.
So I'm not an engineer, but I've been exposed to a lot of them over my life cycle.
So what I think has to happen is that area needs to be reconstructed concrete and it's the overlay that's pushing.
And if it was just a new concrete intersection, then obviously the concrete's not going to push.
We can bring that up on Thursday to the area office.
I have some complaints about it, want to put it on your radar?
So this next project is one of the projects we'll be talking to the, we finally got on the radar to have a conversation before the end of the month on this and then your other bond program projects.
So again, by the time we have our next meeting, we should have some more information related to what the path forward is on bond breaking.
And I believe that's the end of my report.
Can we go back to the Lillian Miller Loop TV8 for a second?
I kind of skipped over that, I was sending something on the Teasley update at the time you were talking about it.
And you said something about promise to the mayor.
You can speak directly into the microphone.
So on that intersection, when are all of those lanes going to be opened up?
So it's my understanding the mayor's state of the city is like, January 27th?
23rd.
Four days quicker, whatever you promise.
So he was asking, just anecdotally, if there's a chance that this project will be done by the time he gives his state of the city, and I told him anything's possible.
Really? Like the last thing that Hickory Street could get done before that?
Just on this job.
So on the Lillian Miller Loop TV8, because we've had so many issues there.
It looks like it's ready to open, pretty much, except for what's going on on the side roads.
So part of the problem with what we can't do and opening up underneath it is what we have to do on the Southbound Frontage Road.
And as I drove here today, I saw them out there today doing the final paving and work out there.
So it's the Southbound Frontage Road through the intersection that's the last critical path for getting 288 open and strut.
So we're hoping that we'll know more by Thursday and we can communicate what we find out on Thursday to you on Thursday.
But we're supposed to be, by the end of the month, this project is supposed to be closed out as far as everything other than the punch list that goes.
So, yes.
I think they had January 25th was the date they gave us last time.
And they've been so meticulous at meeting all those dates that I have no doubt they'll make this one, too.
They make it until February 2nd. They get six more weeks.
Okay, so that's that section. So my next question is right here. It says traffic issues. Brinker signal timing.
So basically what that is, is there's a whole lot of traffic on the Frontage Road and not as much crossing.
And we've just got to figure out how to divide that 60 seconds up to where it maximizes the traffic flow.
And we're still tweaking that. And you've got two great engineers here that are far more skilled at answering that question than I am.
So what we're looking at, we're looking at options.
Currently we're looking at how many vehicles are actually crossing under the bridge because there's very few.
Unless there's a cross traffic going from Brinker and the entrance to Buc-Kees,
there's very few traffic that is actually turning and making a left from the Frontage Roads.
So we're looking at, can we allow vehicles to stack under the bridge while both these movements, the north-south frontage, go at the same time?
That would relief a lot and give them additional timing and movement along Brinker and Buc-Kee to go at the same time.
So we're looking at different alternatives.
We just don't want stacking under the bridge to overwhelm and get into the Frontage Road.
But if they're low enough and it's a wide under the bridge, it's two lanes each direction, so they can pretty much stack up.
We're looking at that option right now as an interim.
I have a question about that light there. Was that backup foreseen? Because I remember talking about this Buc-Kees exit light for a really long time
and it wasn't ever mentioned that that was a concern.
Or is this just something that when we put in, we just saw that it was stacking up quicker than we thought?
So it is a two-fold. I think the ultimate exit ramps have not been configured for the 35.
And that exit covers not only Brinker, but Loop 288.
And the same way, it not only covers Brinker on the south side, but it also covers Mayhill.
So it's connecting to two-meter changes, and that's why there's that backup.
Split diamond. So Buc-Kees isn't really the major part of the problem.
The major part of the problem is that there is a signal between two significant arterials that people want to get to, 288 and Mayhill.
And even after we're completely done, it's still going to remain as a split diamond because there was no room to add additional ramps there for Brinker at that location.
So split diamond is a problem, but the thinking at the time was the development that will occur will have a certain degree of traffic calming anyway.
And so you don't know if you're getting beat because you stole a cookie or because you didn't clean the floor.
You just know you're getting beat. So it's a tough intersection. My wife was harassing me the other night about how that occurred.
But when we make the decision to add an interchange of Brinker for access to the interstate, it's going to reduce mobility in that corridor.
So to get to Mayhill, you have to exit 288 and go through the Brinker signal.
To get to 288, you have to exit Mayhill and go through the Brinker signal to get to 288, and I'm glad Todd's getting up.
I was wondering when that was going to happen. I don't know where it's up there.
You've got to jump each time you speak.
You're way closer than I am.
Well, just whisper to me and I'll talk.
Part of what happens when you introduce a signal where there wasn't one before John's right and Freetown's right, you've got a lot of things going on all at the same time.
So you have predominantly in that northbound direction, so coming into town from Dallas, you have one ramp well in advance of both Mayhill, Brinker, and 288.
So there's some commingling of traffic that normally we would separate out.
When Mayhill opens up fully and we can go over the bridge and all the way up Mayhill, you will definitely see a good amount of traffic settle out of that loop 288 traffic and it will go north.
And that will help to calm that entire area.
Loop 288 and the ultimate ramp configuration, yes, that will help too because you're starting to separate out traffic right now that has no choice but to come right through three places that have major crossings.
Right now we just don't have all of the elements in place for that to really help.
And you can see some of those examples when you look at what happened here recently when TxDOT opened the southbound ramp onto I-35 and what happened at the Teasley intersection with 35.
Traffic is tremendously better.
Instead of sitting through four and five cycles of that signal trying to get under I-35E, you sit through maybe two at most now.
And that's in the rush hour time.
So you're already seeing those impacts and that's because TxDOT and us, we all don't have those major mobility connections made yet.
They're coming.
So we're going to be dealing with a little bit of frustration for a little bit longer.
But once those connections are complete, you're going to see that equalize.
But so as far as the light timing, you guys are still working on it.
We are working on it.
And so what's there is a final, we're still working on it.
It's a fine tuning effort.
One side doesn't do it at all.
So I just needed an answer to pass on.
Yes, we are working on it.
And they will see some changes until we get it.
Thank you.
Great.
Thank you very much.
So moving on to IMF staff reports, items for future consideration.
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So as you can see, I think the majority of these top items, I think DCTA provides regular input.
I'm not sure if we need to continue adding, putting that item there since we have a regular DCTA.
I was thinking if we can take it out.
And then there are three or four items that are related to the mobility plan update.
We're going through the process.
So maybe we have the next four or five work session items.
And we're going to cover every aspect of what happens to one-way, two-way streets, what happens to the road diet on Carroll.
So they'll be talked about within that.
I'm going to keep them here until that work session happens.
And then after that, probably we can clean that up.
We are still working with TechStop.
That's a tough spot to convince TechStop because there's no right sidewalk connecting either direction.
So this is still an ongoing process until we get a solution between the property owner, us, and TechStop.
The Malone and bike lanes, we have added signage there that notifies bikers that the lane is ending because it's now emerging into a traffic lane.
So we started with that signage.
We'll continue to monitor, but if there are additional things that are required or we still continue getting concerns and complaints, then we'll increase the signage or just make people more aware.
As far as the mobility plan, I talked about we're continuing the sessions and we'll touch on some of these items there.
I wanted to jump directly.
I think we're working on this item, item number A.
We're still gathering data.
The street department is gathering more information on what was done as far as the cross-section and what was the actual project, whether the full-depth replacement or what happened on Oak Street.
Do you agree that it isn't the way it's supposed to be now?
It has some wavy formations, yes.
So we are looking into why the pavement is acting this way.
A lot of times you don't know until you open up the pavement.
Sometimes there are internal water leaks that no one had anticipated.
So we don't know at this point.
And we'll go through the process of the investigation.
So I currently don't know what the main reason is for having.
Yeah, no, I understand that.
But the pavement is not uniform.
Looking at it because I asked or once you looked, did you agree like, oh, this isn't right?
The pavement is not uniform.
OK.
My concern would be that we understand the cause, but also we understand where in our processes we might have been able to avoid this.
I'd say there's a kind of substantive issue and a perception issue that are almost the same.
If this is on such a prominent artery, it leads to the perception that we have no idea what we're doing.
And, you know, broadly, it's hard to reply.
I think we need to understand how is it possible for us to end up with that result.
So, you know, we need to identify the process changes that would, you know, even if it's something, it's something we didn't anticipate, but how might we have anticipated it?
You're right.
Once we get to the bottom of it, we'll include that in our processes and make sure that we track it.
This is completed, number nine.
We have increased walk timing, so I'm hoping that we can take it out.
And then I've talked to Texas about item number 10.
I sent an email to Tina and she was asking for a recommendation, and I suggested the same recommendation.
We could add some of the striping thermoplastic rumble strips where you go over them, you can have some rumbles.
And she's looking into that.
She doesn't have a definite idea.
The other thing that we are also looking at is our project currently plans to go up.
This is the intersection project at Hickory and 2499.
It goes to bid in March.
Isn't they, didn't they start there as a right turn lane?
Correct, but a lot of people are going through the right lane.
They don't see it at night.
They don't see it.
They did, it looked like they added some signage.
They did add some signage.
So they started with the signage.
And then they wanted to give some more clues as to the rumble strips.
But what we're doing on our end is that project goes out to bid for construction in March.
And we're planning on expediting the signal so that way we can actually have a safer crossing there, get the signal in sooner than later,
and then get the construction of Hickory Creek Road and the rest of it to fall.
So we'll have some temp signals that face Hickory to make it much more safer moving forward.
Team 35, I think we talked about the underpass, right?
Yeah, that one, if I recall correctly, it was looking at the, having the left turn only or the markings of the lane
so that it moves under the underpass more efficiently.
And that is related to the project because I think we had restriped it based on the traffic flow along the furniture.
We need to restripe it back to where it originally was and it'll follow up.
Okay, thank you.
Once that project is wrapped up, we'll go back to the original configuration.
That will help.
And then the last, we are coming back to the committee in the next meeting
to talk about policy bundle and what are the updates and how we move forward and close those items.
I'll go back and any items that want to be added.
I would like to see, it would just be extra work the first time around, I think,
but on our major projects like Bonnie Bray to add something closer to what the on-system reports are.
Okay.
They're a little more in-depth on those major projects.
Those are the ones we get questions on.
That would be really helpful.
We are working towards that.
Yes, we've started something like that.
Okay.
Yeah, I think if Bonnie Bray, Hickory, Mayhill are the three major ones.
The large corridor.
McKinney, Wisconsin.
Yeah, McKinney, yeah.
Okay.
I would just like to throw onto that the, this isn't like a construction project,
but just update, you know, interim update on the square pedestrian scramble.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so I have a couple of things.
One, I would like to request or make sure that we're going to have a cyclo dia even.
Even?
I know that we had one a few years ago where you closed down the roads and then the.
That's in May.
It's in May.
It's typically in the month of May, which is my cycling month, so I'll talk to Mark and we'll have something.
I just want to make sure that we're going to have it and that there's funding for it and that if, you know,
anything needs to come to this committee that it does in time as far as road closures and things like that.
Yes, definitely.
The other thing is that someone brought up again downtown ballards.
Like so when we closed downtown off for the festivals to have retractable ballards.
So as we, if we talk about redoing Elm or Locust or any of those streets,
maybe having the retractable ones installed so that there's no danger of cars driving
because of the safety concerns recently with cars driving in traffic.
During events.
Yes.
So that when we do and we are able to close that down for like arts and autos and, you know,
the holiday lighting and it just adds another level of safety from vehicles passing through.
And I'd asked about it, I guess, a couple of years ago, but it's always worth asking again.
So does this specifically have to be retractable or just removable or inserted?
Well, either way, just as long as it creates some kind of a barrier.
Yeah, if they're, if they're retracted, I guess it's more easier to use if they're there
and you can raise them up and put them down instead of having, you know,
like officers and trucks parked there constantly.
Anything else before concluding items?
No, that wasn't included.
I have a question and a comment.
Is the ownership change on the northeast corner of West Oak and Bonnie Bray,
you know, going out with businesses, is that related to the street lighting?
I thought that the properties that we acquired were a little north of that.
Yeah, I think they are north of that, not at the corner of Oak and Bonnie Bray.
So it's nothing to do with that.
Just a comment, we kind of went over it glanceably,
but on the new bus route from Monsignor King to Argyle and Grandin,
just want to observe appreciatively that it's basically on time,
concurrent with the transition from Monsignor King to seven days.
So, you know, I think that's great, much appreciated.
Anybody else, anything else?
All right, let's adjourn then at 10 and 12.