WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.000 Good evening. It is Wednesday, May 27, 2026, 530 p.m. 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:14.000 And this is the Board of Ethics Special Call meeting. 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:22.000 So we are going to look at BOE 26-012, 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:30.000 an ethics complaint number 26-001, filed on May 6, 2026, 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:35.000 concerning alleged violations of ethics ordinance 2-278. 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.000 That's correct. This is just the preliminary assessment. 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.000 So right now, today we're determining if the complaint, 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:45.399 assuming everything alleged action is true, if it's 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:47.000 actionable, we're basing this. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:52.579 Just to be clear, all the people listening, actionable 00:00:52.579 --> 00:00:55.000 means it would go forward to an ethics hearing. 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.549 Baseless means it would be dismissed at this time because 00:00:58.549 --> 00:01:02.270 it would not be a violation of the ordinance due to what's 00:01:02.270 --> 00:01:04.000 alleged and it is true. 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:13.000 So, do we need to be able to check the information sheet? 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:15.299 Whatever you would like to look at, I've got the agenda 00:01:15.299 --> 00:01:18.450 information sheet pulled up on this. All the screens nicely 00:01:18.450 --> 00:01:20.000 situated behind you. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.000 Can we list the panel? 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.000 Oh, yes. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:29.000 Yes, we need to elect a presiding officer. 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:30.000 Okay. 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:35.000 So, Timon Wright is the committee member. 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.000 And I'm Annette Aramstein. 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.000 And I'm Justin Pavlik. 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:43.000 So, elect a presiding officer. 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:44.000 I'll nominate Annette. 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:45.000 I'll second. 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:46.000 Okay. 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.000 All in favor? 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.000 Aye. 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:50.000 Thank you. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:57.000 So, I'm going to look at the agenda information sheet. 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.000 We don't have a copy of the card. 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:03.170 And I do just want to mention the complaint, amended the 00:02:03.170 --> 00:02:05.000 complaint a couple of days ago. 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.000 The additional information is provided in your packet. 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:10.000 I don't know if you know what. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.669 So, I didn't correct the entire packet. I printed the 00:02:12.669 --> 00:02:14.000 amended information. 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:15.000 Okay. 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.439 Okay. So, not the entire packet. The amended information is 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:19.000 printed. 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.000 So, we can review this? 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:32.000 If you would like to, you can. 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.000 So, all of this information is from the amended? 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.000 I believe so. 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:41.939 The top page of the city charter, that came from special 00:02:41.939 --> 00:02:43.000 counsel. 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.000 Okay. 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:52.000 The table allows the city charter to be public. 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.539 And in the city charter, the city charter shower represents 00:02:56.539 --> 00:02:58.000 the city council. 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.560 I printed out that page from the city charter and I 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.000 highlighted that statement. 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.000 So, you can take notes of this. 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:08.000 Okay. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:23.000 The home roll charter is the charter. 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:31.000 I think I have the complaint pulled up as well. 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.439 But yeah, the allegation is that the improper influence 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.000 section of the ordinance is being violated. 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:56.090 I can also pull up the definition of that as well. Whenever 00:03:56.090 --> 00:04:03.000 you all are ready. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:11.000 Okay. 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:15.000 I printed out the same thing. 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.000 Provided by special counsel. 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.000 This is from city charter. 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:27.000 I highlighted that first sentence because my, my. 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:33.000 I guess my concern on this was the core of the complaint is 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:37.000 that the city attorney should not represent the city. 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:42.000 And in this case, when they are. 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:43.000 Defendant. 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:47.399 Right. And so I guess there's two parts to this. One is 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.000 that the city charter requires the city attorney. 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:58.000 To represent the city in all litigation. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.000 So that's the first part. 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.000 And then. 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.000 In the. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.000 What was provided the original complaint. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.000 It has. 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.000 City attorney listed as one of the attorneys. 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:19.970 That's in that motion to stay and the city defendants are 00:05:19.970 --> 00:05:21.000 listed. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:25.000 As all of the defendants on the first page of that. 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:29.000 So I don't think there's any kind of. 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:33.000 Like this is there's no way ambiguity here. 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.879 And who the city attorney representing is all of the city 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:38.000 defendants. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:45.000 On page one. 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.000 So I between the city charter. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.009 The city attorney shall represent the city and all 00:05:51.009 --> 00:05:52.000 litigation. 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.000 And then. 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.000 I guess. 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:59.000 As a defendant, their right to represent themselves. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.000 I don't. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.000 And the fact that there's no ambiguity. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:09.000 I don't see any kind of. 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:12.000 All of the city complaints or sorry, city defendants. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.000 I don't see how there could be. 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.000 This could be construed as. 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.000 Improper. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.000 I mean, they're. 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:24.000 They're exercising their right to represent themselves. 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.000 And doing his job required by the city. 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:27.000 And. 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.000 I mean, I guess that. 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:35.000 I don't see any kind of. 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:36.000 Of the complaint. 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.000 It was filed. 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.000 So I haven't looked at the amended. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.000 Stuff here. 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:47.000 It looks like they're seeing. 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.660 So far I haven't seen anything that looks like it's related 00:06:51.660 --> 00:06:52.000 . 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.000 And I think this is all. 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.000 The original. 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:03.000 The city. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.000 The city. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.000 The complainant. 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.000 It was filed in the. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.000 Eastern district of Texas. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.000 So I don't know if there's. 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.000 I mean, I don't think we're here. 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.000 Right. 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.000 These are allegations. 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.000 These aren't necessarily. 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.000 Yeah. 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.000 I don't know if they're. 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.000 Regardless of what's in there. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.000 By the city charter. 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.000 The sixth amendment, the city attorney. 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.000 As a right to defend himself. 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.000 And. 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.000 As an obligation. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.000 So. 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.000 I don't know what you guys think. 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.000 That's what I. 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:50.000 Spent a considerable amount of time today. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:55.000 I think it's a good thing. 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.000 This is the cases that this person has filed in the. 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.000 County courts. 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.000 With several of them against. 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.000 City officials or city organizations. 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.000 Along with all of the violence from this Eastern district. 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.000 Again, I don't care. 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.000 One way or the other. 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:11.000 I'm not the judge of these cases. 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.000 But they all. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.000 Seem to be the same thing. 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.000 Of. 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.000 Just. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.000 If. 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.000 If I've ever seen something frivolous. 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.000 I'm looking at. 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.000 Not these cases. 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.000 Whether those are frivolous or not. 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.000 Is not for me to say. 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:34.000 This is. 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.000 Crazy frivolous. 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.000 Especially considering the charter. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.000 It is. 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.000 Mind blowing how much money. 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.000 This person has cost. 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:44.000 The city. 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.000 And in defending against. 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:47.000 These allegations. 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:48.000 And now. 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:49.000 Luckily. 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.000 We are volunteers. 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.000 So we don't cost the city money. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:53.000 But our time. 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:54.000 I'll do. 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:55.000 So the. 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.000 Privilege is the second stage. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:58.000 So we're still. 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:59.000 Number one. 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:00.000 The preliminary assessment. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:02.000 So if you determine. 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.000 That this complaint is actionable. 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.000 I don't see that it rises to that level. 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.000 Either of the two. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.000 And so you would make a motion. 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.000 And then we could go on to. 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.000 So do I hear a motion. 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:14.000 I'll make a motion. 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.000 That we find. 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.000 Each one. 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.000 Yeah. 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.000 I think the first part is. 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:22.000 To make a motion. 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.000 That we find. 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.000 The complaint is. 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:26.000 Right. 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:27.000 All right. 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.000 I'll send you that. 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.000 All in favor. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.000 I know. 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:32.000 Yeah. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:33.000 We find. 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:34.000 Do we in the motion. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:35.000 Have to say actionable. 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:36.000 So. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.000 My understanding is. 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.000 The way that the ordinance is written. 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:42.000 Is that this stage you can find that it's actionable. 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.000 You can find that it's baseless. 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:46.000 Or you can recommend that it be. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.000 That appearing on frivolity. 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.000 Okay. 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.000 So you don't find that it's baseless. 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.000 Before that is my. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:55.000 What I remember. 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.000 I think I remember. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.000 Yes. 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.000 Baseless is. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:59.000 Baseless is. 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.000 If you decide it's baseless. 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:02.000 It's dismissed. 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:03.000 Yeah. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.000 I think there is. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:05.000 Like it's just a little. 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:06.000 Yeah. 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:07.000 The first. 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.000 Is. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.000 Is the complaint actionable. 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.000 So the motion would be to that effect. 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.000 Whether it's. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.000 The motion would be. 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.000 Okay. 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.000 Find that it is not actionable. 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:19.000 Now. 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.000 I'm in my motion. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.000 And I move that we find the. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.000 Complaint not actionable. 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:25.000 On both counts. 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:26.000 Can we do. 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:27.000 Just one motion. 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:28.000 For both. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.000 We need to do it separately. 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:30.000 What other counts. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.000 I think there's just the improper. 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.000 The alleged. 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:33.000 The improper. 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:34.000 They did. 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.000 Mentioned something else in the body. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.000 So. 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:38.000 I think. 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:42.000 The supporting document. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.000 But the only thing that was indicated. 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.000 On the cut on the complaint form. 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:47.000 Is the improper influence. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.000 Yeah. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.000 Okay. 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:50.000 So. 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:51.000 The motion is. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:52.000 But. 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:53.000 This is not. 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:54.000 Actionable. 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:55.000 On the. 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.000 To. 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:57.000 Two. 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:58.000 To. 00:10:58.000 --> 00:10:59.000 Can you. 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:08.000 Give me that number. 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:09.000 2-273. 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.000 Paragraph E. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.000 Improper influence. 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.000 Okay. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:13.000 So. 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.000 And. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:15.000 Is there a second. 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.000 I'll second that. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:17.000 Okay. 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:18.000 So. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:19.000 Do we need to have discussion or can we go ahead. 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.000 If there is discussion. 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:21.000 You can have it. 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:22.000 Okay. 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:23.000 Do you want to discuss this. 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:30.000 I'm ready to vote. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.000 Okay. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:32.000 I am too. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.000 Okay. 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.000 So all in favor. 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:35.000 Raise your hand. 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:36.000 All right. 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.000 It's unanimous. 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.000 So now we decide. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:39.000 I heard a comment about frivolity. 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.000 Yes. 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:41.000 So. 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:42.000 I would make a motion that we. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:43.000 Elevate. 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:44.000 The motion. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:55.000 Is to hear it. 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:56.000 Recommend. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:57.000 Recommend. 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.000 For all the. 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.000 Work to. 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:14.000 Determine if the complaint is frivolous. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:29.000 And have an evidentiary hearing. 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:30.000 I mean, I. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.000 I'm a little conflicted on this. 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:32.000 I. 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.000 I think my. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:41.000 I guess knowing that there. 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.000 I want to look at what our definition is and what the 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.000 requirements are because I have the same feeling. 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.000 Like. 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.000 I had the same feeling reading this. 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:56.000 And seeing that there is a. 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:00.000 I mean, it was, it was pretty clear to me and doing. 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:02.000 Some limited. 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.000 Research in our city charter. 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:06.000 This. 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.000 Doesn't make any sense. 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.000 This is a complaint. 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.000 This is a an actionable complaint. 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.000 So. 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:17.000 I pulled up the factors to the best of my ability. 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.000 A little. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:23.000 I know it's hard to see. 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.000 I think there might be one more after E. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:40.000 This is most. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.000 So it doesn't have anything to do with politics. 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:48.000 And. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.000 Publicity there. 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.000 I haven't heard any publicity. 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.000 So B is out. 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.000 I don't know if there's any. 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.000 Existence in nature of any relationship. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.000 When you respond. 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.000 And the complaint. 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.000 Before the complaint was filed. 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.000 I'm not aware of anything. 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.000 That. 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.000 D. If the respondent is a candidate for election. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:10.000 The office. 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.000 The existence. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.000 I think. 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:14.000 Is really about. 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.000 The political process. 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:17.000 I think we're going to. 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:18.000 It's E and F. 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.000 So any evidence that the complaint. 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:23.000 And any evidence of the complaints motives and file. 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.000 Which comes from the seven. 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:27.000 Separate. 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:33.000 Lawsuits. 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:34.000 I can make the motion. 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:35.000 Someone can second. 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:36.000 We vote. 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:37.000 And it doesn't. 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.000 Okay. 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:39.000 Okay. 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:40.000 It's a. 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:41.000 It would be a hearing. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:42.000 I mean. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:43.000 We would. 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:44.000 We would review that in the same way. 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:46.000 If we found that this was actionable. 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.000 That would mean we have a hearing with the entire. 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.000 Forth. 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:55.000 So. 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:56.000 Just. 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.000 Some of my concerns in reading the. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:03.000 Reading through all of this and. 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:08.000 Knowing that there is a. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:09.000 The. 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:10.000 The original complaint. 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.000 Provided. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.000 Was the lawsuit. 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:15.000 That. 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:18.000 The. 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:21.000 The thing here is filing that lawsuit. 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.000 So there is a prior. 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:24.000 Some sort of relationship there. 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.000 I don't know what that is. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.000 But it's, it's pretty clear that. 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:33.000 This was not an actionable thing. 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.000 So this was not an actionable. 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:36.000 Ethics. 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.000 Per our ordinance. 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:43.000 So. 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:48.000 It appears. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:49.000 This is. 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.000 A frivolous complaint to me. 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.000 Just knowing what. 00:15:55.000 --> 00:16:01.000 What the complainants submit. 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.000 Level of detail. 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.000 The review. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.000 The statement of facts that they provided. 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:12.000 They knew that. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:17.000 The city attorney. 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.000 They did some pretty. 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.000 Detailed review of the ethics ordinance. 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.000 Sided their case. 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.000 Sided the. 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.000 State the emergency motion. 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.000 To state proceeding. 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.000 So there's there's like. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.000 I mean there's nothing. 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:42.000 There's nothing that's been done. 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.720 The detail they went to, to generate the ethics complaint 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:47.000 that we're now reviewing. 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:51.000 Makes me, it makes it seem that they would have. 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:55.000 Gone to the city attorneys. 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.000 Required responsibility. 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.000 Their powers and duties. 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.000 Listed in our charter. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.000 Read the first sentence and say they have to do this. 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.000 This is their job. 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.000 And they're not going to be able to do this. 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.000 Without. 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:12.000 Without knowing that going into this level. 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.000 Detail and research. 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.000 Providing this. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.000 Complaints. 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.000 I'm kind of conflicted. I, I definitely. 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.000 See this as a waste of city. 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.000 Time and money. 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.000 On the other hand. 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:34.000 The, the code from being weaponized. 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:35.000 And so. 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.000 Yeah. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.000 I. 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.000 I'm halfway there. 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:41.000 I guess. 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.000 See and I think he. 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.000 It's exactly what they're doing is weaponizing it. 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.000 Right. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.000 Yeah. 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.000 I'm upset that the city attorney defending themselves. 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.000 Instead of spending. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.000 Another hundreds of thousands on an outside council. 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.809 So I'm going to now file something and see if I can't get 00:17:55.809 --> 00:17:57.000 the city attorney. 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.000 Removed from office. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.000 Place on suspension or whatever. 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:02.000 It is being. 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.000 100%. 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.000 That's what's in the. 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.000 In this. 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.000 The statement of facts. 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.000 I guess it's after that. 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.000 What part of their attachment to the ethics. 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.000 Ethics complaint. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:17.000 Section. 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.000 Five. 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.000 They have a relief requested. 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.000 And part of that is. 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.000 That. 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.000 The city attorney. 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.000 We issue a letter of reprimand. 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.000 And a recommendation of suspension. 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.000 To the city council. 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.000 And that. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:37.000 Normally when we talk about this in our normal meetings. 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.000 We. 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.000 I think we focus on, on election types. 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.000 Because that's the most obvious. 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.000 Application. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.000 That's what we've seen in the past. 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:55.000 And I think that's what we've seen in the past. 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:58.000 There is, there is some external stuff that seems to be 00:18:58.000 --> 00:18:58.000 happening. 00:18:58.000 --> 00:18:59.000 And the court system. 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:01.000 And they are asking for. 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.000 They're asking us to recommend that. 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.000 The city attorney be suspended. 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.000 And. 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:11.000 That. 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.000 I don't know that I've ever seen. 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:19.000 A complaint that has been submitted. 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.000 That there has ever been a request for something like that. 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.000 And we recommend suspension. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 City employee. 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.000 That seems really harsh. 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.000 That seems really harsh. 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.000 And I don't. 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.000 I think it goes to the bigger board. 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:39.000 To make a determination of whether or not. 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.000 The city attorney is going to be able to influence the 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:43.000 action. 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:44.000 And I think that's the state. 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.000 Okay. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.000 Is determined. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.000 It's not actionable. 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.000 He was saying improper influence. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.000 He was also saying. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:54.000 It's actionable because. 00:19:54.000 --> 00:20:02.000 The city attorney. 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.000 Is implying that they're able to influence the action on 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:05.000 any basis. 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:09.000 And that's the state. 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.000 So at this stage, 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.000 the city attorney is not. 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.000 Influencing. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:19.000 See action. 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:21.759 On the basis of it in the merits because it's too early in 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:22.000 the process. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.000 So. 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.000 You found that. 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.000 Complain is not actionable. 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.000 And then it would go to the board. 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.000 Whether you want to recommend to the board. 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.000 Ethics as a whole. 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:35.000 That's the correct. 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.000 Yeah. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.000 Here we decide. 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.750 Do you want to recommend that the whole board consider it 00:20:38.750 --> 00:20:40.000 as for less. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.000 And then the next step would be. 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.000 Is it. 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:44.000 Yeah. 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.740 And then the other option is just to say it's just baseless 00:20:46.740 --> 00:20:47.000 . 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.000 And then it doesn't go to the board. 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.000 The formality. 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:56.000 So those are, I think the two places. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:02.000 And the formality hearing allows you to sanction. 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.000 The formality hearing allows you to do that. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.000 And then the other option is to say, 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:09.000 I think the formality hearing is just a formality hearing. 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:11.700 It just means that the rest of our fellow board members 00:21:11.700 --> 00:21:12.000 will then get to 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:13.000 weigh in. 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.000 It'll be evidentiary. So the complaint. 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:16.000 And respondent. 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.000 Will come in or should. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.000 The respondent would not respond to it. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.000 At that stage. 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.000 It's not required. 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.000 Complainant. 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:24.000 It is not required either. 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.000 Because. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.000 Then. 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.000 Just not showing up with dismiss it. Right. 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.000 And then the other option is to say, 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:35.000 I think the formality hearing is just a formality hearing. 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.000 They are allowed to come and represent themselves. 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:38.000 You're not required to. 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:39.000 I think it. 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.000 Kind of essentially switches the board to. 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.000 Y'all to this. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.000 The primary panel. 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.000 And then as the respondent. 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:45.000 And so I'm hearing. 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:46.000 And that's what's up. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:47.000 What you want. 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.000 Yeah. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:49.000 I guess. 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:53.000 The. 00:21:53.000 --> 00:22:03.000 I'm trying to like wage. 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.000 To me. 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.000 The probability thing seems like it's going to. 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.000 Divide the attention. 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.000 But I mean, I hear what. 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.000 So the, I guess the concern. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.000 With not doing that is that. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.000 We, we end up with. 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.000 Another. 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.000 Ethics complaint next week. 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.000 That is also. 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.000 Not actionable and potentially frivolous. 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.000 And part of our. 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.000 Part of it. 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:30.000 If we go to. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.000 Have an interior hearing for frivolity. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.000 And. 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.000 Based on that, we find that it was frivolous. 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.000 We can. 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:51.000 Then we have some, some ability to limit. 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.000 Those. 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.000 Frivolous complaints. 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:54.000 Okay. 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:55.000 To the court. 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.000 To determine what. 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.000 Yeah. 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.000 Remedy or sanctions. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.000 I guess. 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:00.000 So I'm hearing. 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:02.000 I think the recommendation is. 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:03.000 To. 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:06.000 To go to the frivolous. 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.000 I know there is a motion on the table. 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:10.000 I haven't heard a second. 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:11.000 Okay. 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.000 There is a motion to recommend that. 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.000 To recommend the frivolity. 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.000 Okay. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 I think we're ready to go. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:22.000 So let me just restate. 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:23.000 Yes. 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:24.000 The motion is. 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.000 To recommend to the board. 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:27.000 Of ethics as frivolous. 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.000 And for the board to hold the. 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.000 Right. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.000 So. 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:32.000 To recommend that. 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.000 I think it's that we can forward considering this. 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:36.000 To the board. 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.000 To determine. 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.000 I don't think we can do that. 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:40.000 This chart. 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.000 Yeah. 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.000 I made that chart. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.000 Let me look at what. 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.000 The three. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.000 Member. 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:46.000 Says. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.000 Could the ethics. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.000 Be frivolous. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.000 And if you say yes. 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:50.000 Then. 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:51.000 You go to the board. 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:52.000 With the. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.000 Event. 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:54.000 Hearing. 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.000 Yeah. 00:23:55.000 --> 00:24:00.000 The narrative says if a complaint is not actionable. 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:05.000 The panel may consider recommending that a hearing be first 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:05.000 held. 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:10.250 On an accepted complaint to determine if it may be frivol 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:11.000 ous. 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.000 Right. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:13.000 Yeah. 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.000 So this is. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.000 We would be recommending that. 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.000 Okay. 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:17.000 So you don't make. 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:18.000 Determination. 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.000 Recommend. 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:20.000 So we're. 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:21.000 Finding it. 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.000 And. 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:23.000 Not. 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:24.000 Not actionable. 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:25.000 Not actionable. 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:26.000 Yeah. 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.000 Recommended. 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.000 Recommended. 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:31.000 Recommended. 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:32.000 Recommended. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.000 So we're clear on the motion. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.000 Would you mind saying it one more time. 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:40.000 Just for. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.000 Clarity. 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.000 The motion to recommend. 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.000 To the board of ethics. 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:54.000 That. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.000 Hearing first be held. 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.000 Ethics. 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.000 Complaint. 00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.000 Could be. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.000 Frivolous. 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:01.000 And. 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:02.000 To. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:03.000 Hold the. 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.000 Evidence. 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:05.000 Hearing. 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:06.000 Yeah. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:07.000 Hold a hearing to determine. 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.000 Ethics. 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.000 Complaint. 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.000 26. 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.000 One. 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:12.000 It's. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:13.000 Frivolous. 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:14.000 Okay. 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.000 Ready to vote. 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:16.000 On the paper. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.000 All right. 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.000 That's unanimous. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.000 So I believe that. 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.000 And. 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:25.000 And. 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:28.000 I believe we have 30 calendar days. 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.000 To schedule that. 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.000 Yeah. 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.000 So we will be in touch. 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:32.000 To. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.000 Hold that. 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:34.000 Okay. 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.000 This is the attorney going to be there. 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:38.000 I. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.000 I. 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:40.000 Just kind of. 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.000 Joking. 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.000 I don't believe he's required to be there. 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.000 But. 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.000 I don't believe he's required to be there. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.000 I don't believe he's required to be there. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:50.000 But. 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:51.000 I can ask him to be there. 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.000 I think last time we had a hearing that both came. 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:56.000 But. 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:57.000 I can't remember. 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.000 And the only other. 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:01.000 Issue. 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.000 In your opinion. 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.000 Do you want to attach the charter provision to it? 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.000 Yes. 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.000 I would definitely like to attach the. 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.000 So do I have a motion to recommend that. 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:13.000 I recommend. 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.000 I can. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:19.000 I'm not going to. 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:20.000 Yeah. 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:21.000 Yes. 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.000 It's. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.000 It's. 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.000 That would be our. 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.000 Our. 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.000 Our. 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:28.000 Our. 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:29.000 Our. 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.000 Basically your recommendation. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.000 Letter notification letter. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.000 Yeah. 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.000 So I can do it. 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:39.579 I'll make a motion that we attach section six point zero to 00:26:39.579 --> 00:26:40.000 . 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.000 To our opinion. 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.000 From this. 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.000 I'll second that. 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.000 Okay. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.000 Any discussion on that. 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:50.000 Paper. 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.000 I. 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.000 You know. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:59.000 Is there anything else we should attach. 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:01.000 Just in the opinion. 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.000 I can make reference to the rights. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.160 City attorney to represent himself in an individual 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:08.000 capacity. 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.000 Yeah. 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.000 I think that's. 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.000 I think that's. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.000 It seems like that's the two things I know. 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.000 Recommendation. 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:25.000 Provide any information. 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:30.000 I don't want to. 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.000 Wait for the. 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.000 Yeah. 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:41.000 I think. 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.000 Well, yeah. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.000 So I think that that's fine. 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:45.000 Yeah. 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.000 To attach that. 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.000 That way. 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.000 Anybody's reading this. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.000 You know. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.000 City attorneys just doing his duty. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.000 Couldn't prevent. 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.000 Complaints like this. 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.000 That's the point. 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.000 Yeah. 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.000 Okay. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:07.000 Thank you. 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:08.000 Thank you. 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.000 Thank you. 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.000 Thank you.