1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Good evening. It is Wednesday, May 27, 2026, 530 p.m. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,000 And this is the Board of Ethics Special Call meeting. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:22,000 So we are going to look at BOE 26-012, 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:30,000 an ethics complaint number 26-001, filed on May 6, 2026, 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,000 concerning alleged violations of ethics ordinance 2-278. 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 That's correct. This is just the preliminary assessment. 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 So right now, today we're determining if the complaint, 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,399 assuming everything alleged action is true, if it's 9 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:47,000 actionable, we're basing this. 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,579 Just to be clear, all the people listening, actionable 11 00:00:52,579 --> 00:00:55,000 means it would go forward to an ethics hearing. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,549 Baseless means it would be dismissed at this time because 13 00:00:58,549 --> 00:01:02,270 it would not be a violation of the ordinance due to what's 14 00:01:02,270 --> 00:01:04,000 alleged and it is true. 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:13,000 So, do we need to be able to check the information sheet? 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,299 Whatever you would like to look at, I've got the agenda 17 00:01:15,299 --> 00:01:18,450 information sheet pulled up on this. All the screens nicely 18 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:20,000 situated behind you. 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Can we list the panel? 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Oh, yes. 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Yes, we need to elect a presiding officer. 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Okay. 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,000 So, Timon Wright is the committee member. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 And I'm Annette Aramstein. 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 And I'm Justin Pavlik. 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 So, elect a presiding officer. 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,000 I'll nominate Annette. 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 I'll second. 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Okay. 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 All in favor? 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Aye. 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Thank you. 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:57,000 So, I'm going to look at the agenda information sheet. 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,000 We don't have a copy of the card. 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,170 And I do just want to mention the complaint, amended the 36 00:02:03,170 --> 00:02:05,000 complaint a couple of days ago. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,000 The additional information is provided in your packet. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I don't know if you know what. 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,669 So, I didn't correct the entire packet. I printed the 40 00:02:12,669 --> 00:02:14,000 amended information. 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Okay. 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,439 Okay. So, not the entire packet. The amended information is 43 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:19,000 printed. 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 So, we can review this? 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:32,000 If you would like to, you can. 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 So, all of this information is from the amended? 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 I believe so. 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,939 The top page of the city charter, that came from special 49 00:02:41,939 --> 00:02:43,000 counsel. 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Okay. 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,000 The table allows the city charter to be public. 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,539 And in the city charter, the city charter shower represents 53 00:02:56,539 --> 00:02:58,000 the city council. 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,560 I printed out that page from the city charter and I 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,000 highlighted that statement. 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 So, you can take notes of this. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Okay. 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:23,000 The home roll charter is the charter. 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:31,000 I think I have the complaint pulled up as well. 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,439 But yeah, the allegation is that the improper influence 61 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:36,000 section of the ordinance is being violated. 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:56,090 I can also pull up the definition of that as well. Whenever 63 00:03:56,090 --> 00:04:03,000 you all are ready. 64 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Okay. 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,000 I printed out the same thing. 66 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Provided by special counsel. 67 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,000 This is from city charter. 68 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:27,000 I highlighted that first sentence because my, my. 69 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:33,000 I guess my concern on this was the core of the complaint is 70 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,000 that the city attorney should not represent the city. 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,000 And in this case, when they are. 72 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Defendant. 73 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,399 Right. And so I guess there's two parts to this. One is 74 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:51,000 that the city charter requires the city attorney. 75 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:58,000 To represent the city in all litigation. 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 So that's the first part. 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 And then. 78 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 In the. 79 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 What was provided the original complaint. 80 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 It has. 81 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 City attorney listed as one of the attorneys. 82 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,970 That's in that motion to stay and the city defendants are 83 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:21,000 listed. 84 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,000 As all of the defendants on the first page of that. 85 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,000 So I don't think there's any kind of. 86 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Like this is there's no way ambiguity here. 87 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,879 And who the city attorney representing is all of the city 88 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:38,000 defendants. 89 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:45,000 On page one. 90 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 So I between the city charter. 91 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,009 The city attorney shall represent the city and all 92 00:05:51,009 --> 00:05:52,000 litigation. 93 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 And then. 94 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 I guess. 95 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 As a defendant, their right to represent themselves. 96 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 I don't. 97 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 And the fact that there's no ambiguity. 98 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,000 I don't see any kind of. 99 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 All of the city complaints or sorry, city defendants. 100 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I don't see how there could be. 101 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 This could be construed as. 102 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Improper. 103 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 I mean, they're. 104 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 They're exercising their right to represent themselves. 105 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 And doing his job required by the city. 106 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 And. 107 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 I mean, I guess that. 108 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,000 I don't see any kind of. 109 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Of the complaint. 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 It was filed. 111 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 So I haven't looked at the amended. 112 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Stuff here. 113 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,000 It looks like they're seeing. 114 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,660 So far I haven't seen anything that looks like it's related 115 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:52,000 . 116 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 And I think this is all. 117 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000 The original. 118 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,000 The city. 119 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 The city. 120 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 The complainant. 121 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 It was filed in the. 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Eastern district of Texas. 123 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 So I don't know if there's. 124 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 I mean, I don't think we're here. 125 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Right. 126 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 These are allegations. 127 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 These aren't necessarily. 128 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Yeah. 129 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 I don't know if they're. 130 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Regardless of what's in there. 131 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 By the city charter. 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 The sixth amendment, the city attorney. 133 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 As a right to defend himself. 134 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 And. 135 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 As an obligation. 136 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 So. 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 I don't know what you guys think. 138 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 That's what I. 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Spent a considerable amount of time today. 140 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,000 I think it's a good thing. 141 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 This is the cases that this person has filed in the. 142 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 County courts. 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 With several of them against. 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 City officials or city organizations. 145 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Along with all of the violence from this Eastern district. 146 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Again, I don't care. 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 One way or the other. 148 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 I'm not the judge of these cases. 149 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 But they all. 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Seem to be the same thing. 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Of. 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Just. 153 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 If. 154 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 If I've ever seen something frivolous. 155 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 I'm looking at. 156 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Not these cases. 157 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Whether those are frivolous or not. 158 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Is not for me to say. 159 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 This is. 160 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Crazy frivolous. 161 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Especially considering the charter. 162 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 It is. 163 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Mind blowing how much money. 164 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 This person has cost. 165 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 The city. 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 And in defending against. 167 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 These allegations. 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 And now. 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Luckily. 170 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 We are volunteers. 171 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 So we don't cost the city money. 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,000 But our time. 173 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 I'll do. 174 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 So the. 175 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Privilege is the second stage. 176 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 So we're still. 177 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Number one. 178 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 The preliminary assessment. 179 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 So if you determine. 180 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 That this complaint is actionable. 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 I don't see that it rises to that level. 182 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Either of the two. 183 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 And so you would make a motion. 184 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And then we could go on to. 185 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 So do I hear a motion. 186 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 I'll make a motion. 187 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 That we find. 188 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Each one. 189 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Yeah. 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 I think the first part is. 191 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 To make a motion. 192 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 That we find. 193 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 The complaint is. 194 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Right. 195 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 All right. 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I'll send you that. 197 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 All in favor. 198 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 I know. 199 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Yeah. 200 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 We find. 201 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Do we in the motion. 202 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Have to say actionable. 203 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 So. 204 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 My understanding is. 205 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 The way that the ordinance is written. 206 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Is that this stage you can find that it's actionable. 207 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 You can find that it's baseless. 208 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Or you can recommend that it be. 209 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 That appearing on frivolity. 210 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Okay. 211 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 So you don't find that it's baseless. 212 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Before that is my. 213 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 What I remember. 214 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 I think I remember. 215 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Yes. 216 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Baseless is. 217 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Baseless is. 218 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 If you decide it's baseless. 219 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 It's dismissed. 220 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Yeah. 221 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 I think there is. 222 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Like it's just a little. 223 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Yeah. 224 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 The first. 225 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Is. 226 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Is the complaint actionable. 227 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 So the motion would be to that effect. 228 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Whether it's. 229 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 The motion would be. 230 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Okay. 231 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Find that it is not actionable. 232 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Now. 233 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 I'm in my motion. 234 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 And I move that we find the. 235 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Complaint not actionable. 236 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,000 On both counts. 237 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Can we do. 238 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Just one motion. 239 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 For both. 240 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 We need to do it separately. 241 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 What other counts. 242 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 I think there's just the improper. 243 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 The alleged. 244 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 The improper. 245 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 They did. 246 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Mentioned something else in the body. 247 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 So. 248 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 I think. 249 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 The supporting document. 250 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 But the only thing that was indicated. 251 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 On the cut on the complaint form. 252 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Is the improper influence. 253 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Yeah. 254 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Okay. 255 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 So. 256 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 The motion is. 257 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 But. 258 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 This is not. 259 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Actionable. 260 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 On the. 261 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,000 To. 262 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Two. 263 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 To. 264 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Can you. 265 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Give me that number. 266 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 2-273. 267 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Paragraph E. 268 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Improper influence. 269 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Okay. 270 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 So. 271 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 And. 272 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Is there a second. 273 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 I'll second that. 274 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Okay. 275 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 So. 276 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Do we need to have discussion or can we go ahead. 277 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 If there is discussion. 278 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 You can have it. 279 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Okay. 280 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Do you want to discuss this. 281 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:30,000 I'm ready to vote. 282 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 Okay. 283 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 I am too. 284 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Okay. 285 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 So all in favor. 286 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Raise your hand. 287 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 All right. 288 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 It's unanimous. 289 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 So now we decide. 290 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 I heard a comment about frivolity. 291 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Yes. 292 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 So. 293 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 I would make a motion that we. 294 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Elevate. 295 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 The motion. 296 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Is to hear it. 297 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Recommend. 298 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Recommend. 299 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 For all the. 300 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Work to. 301 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Determine if the complaint is frivolous. 302 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:29,000 And have an evidentiary hearing. 303 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 I mean, I. 304 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 I'm a little conflicted on this. 305 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,000 I. 306 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 I think my. 307 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:41,000 I guess knowing that there. 308 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,000 I want to look at what our definition is and what the 309 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,000 requirements are because I have the same feeling. 310 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Like. 311 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 I had the same feeling reading this. 312 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,000 And seeing that there is a. 313 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,000 I mean, it was, it was pretty clear to me and doing. 314 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Some limited. 315 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Research in our city charter. 316 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 This. 317 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Doesn't make any sense. 318 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 This is a complaint. 319 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,000 This is a an actionable complaint. 320 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 So. 321 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 I pulled up the factors to the best of my ability. 322 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 A little. 323 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:23,000 I know it's hard to see. 324 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 I think there might be one more after E. 325 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:40,000 This is most. 326 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 So it doesn't have anything to do with politics. 327 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,000 And. 328 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Publicity there. 329 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,000 I haven't heard any publicity. 330 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 So B is out. 331 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,000 I don't know if there's any. 332 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Existence in nature of any relationship. 333 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 When you respond. 334 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 And the complaint. 335 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Before the complaint was filed. 336 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 I'm not aware of anything. 337 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 That. 338 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 D. If the respondent is a candidate for election. 339 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 The office. 340 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 The existence. 341 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 I think. 342 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Is really about. 343 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 The political process. 344 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I think we're going to. 345 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 It's E and F. 346 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 So any evidence that the complaint. 347 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 And any evidence of the complaints motives and file. 348 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Which comes from the seven. 349 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Separate. 350 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Lawsuits. 351 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 I can make the motion. 352 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Someone can second. 353 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 We vote. 354 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 And it doesn't. 355 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Okay. 356 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Okay. 357 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 It's a. 358 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 It would be a hearing. 359 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 I mean. 360 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 We would. 361 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 We would review that in the same way. 362 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 If we found that this was actionable. 363 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 That would mean we have a hearing with the entire. 364 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Forth. 365 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,000 So. 366 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Just. 367 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Some of my concerns in reading the. 368 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Reading through all of this and. 369 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Knowing that there is a. 370 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 The. 371 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 The original complaint. 372 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Provided. 373 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Was the lawsuit. 374 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 That. 375 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 The. 376 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 The thing here is filing that lawsuit. 377 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 So there is a prior. 378 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Some sort of relationship there. 379 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 I don't know what that is. 380 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,000 But it's, it's pretty clear that. 381 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 This was not an actionable thing. 382 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 So this was not an actionable. 383 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Ethics. 384 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Per our ordinance. 385 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,000 So. 386 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,000 It appears. 387 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,000 This is. 388 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 A frivolous complaint to me. 389 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Just knowing what. 390 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:01,000 What the complainants submit. 391 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Level of detail. 392 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,000 The review. 393 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 The statement of facts that they provided. 394 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,000 They knew that. 395 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,000 The city attorney. 396 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000 They did some pretty. 397 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Detailed review of the ethics ordinance. 398 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Sided their case. 399 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Sided the. 400 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 State the emergency motion. 401 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000 To state proceeding. 402 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 So there's there's like. 403 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,000 I mean there's nothing. 404 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,000 There's nothing that's been done. 405 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,720 The detail they went to, to generate the ethics complaint 406 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,000 that we're now reviewing. 407 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Makes me, it makes it seem that they would have. 408 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Gone to the city attorneys. 409 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Required responsibility. 410 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Their powers and duties. 411 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Listed in our charter. 412 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Read the first sentence and say they have to do this. 413 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 This is their job. 414 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000 And they're not going to be able to do this. 415 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Without. 416 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Without knowing that going into this level. 417 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Detail and research. 418 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Providing this. 419 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Complaints. 420 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 I'm kind of conflicted. I, I definitely. 421 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 See this as a waste of city. 422 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Time and money. 423 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 On the other hand. 424 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,000 The, the code from being weaponized. 425 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,000 And so. 426 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Yeah. 427 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 I. 428 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 I'm halfway there. 429 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,000 I guess. 430 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 See and I think he. 431 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 It's exactly what they're doing is weaponizing it. 432 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Right. 433 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Yeah. 434 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 I'm upset that the city attorney defending themselves. 435 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Instead of spending. 436 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Another hundreds of thousands on an outside council. 437 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,809 So I'm going to now file something and see if I can't get 438 00:17:55,809 --> 00:17:57,000 the city attorney. 439 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Removed from office. 440 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Place on suspension or whatever. 441 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 It is being. 442 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 100%. 443 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 That's what's in the. 444 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 In this. 445 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 The statement of facts. 446 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 I guess it's after that. 447 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 What part of their attachment to the ethics. 448 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Ethics complaint. 449 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Section. 450 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Five. 451 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,000 They have a relief requested. 452 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 And part of that is. 453 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 That. 454 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 The city attorney. 455 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 We issue a letter of reprimand. 456 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 And a recommendation of suspension. 457 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 To the city council. 458 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,000 And that. 459 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Normally when we talk about this in our normal meetings. 460 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,000 We. 461 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 I think we focus on, on election types. 462 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Because that's the most obvious. 463 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Application. 464 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,000 That's what we've seen in the past. 465 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,000 And I think that's what we've seen in the past. 466 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 There is, there is some external stuff that seems to be 467 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,000 happening. 468 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 And the court system. 469 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 And they are asking for. 470 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 They're asking us to recommend that. 471 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 The city attorney be suspended. 472 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 And. 473 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,000 That. 474 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 I don't know that I've ever seen. 475 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:19,000 A complaint that has been submitted. 476 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 That there has ever been a request for something like that. 477 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 And we recommend suspension. 478 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 City employee. 479 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 That seems really harsh. 480 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 That seems really harsh. 481 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 And I don't. 482 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,000 I think it goes to the bigger board. 483 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,000 To make a determination of whether or not. 484 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 The city attorney is going to be able to influence the 485 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,000 action. 486 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 And I think that's the state. 487 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Okay. 488 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Is determined. 489 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 It's not actionable. 490 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 He was saying improper influence. 491 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 He was also saying. 492 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 It's actionable because. 493 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:02,000 The city attorney. 494 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Is implying that they're able to influence the action on 495 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,000 any basis. 496 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 And that's the state. 497 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 So at this stage, 498 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000 the city attorney is not. 499 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Influencing. 500 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,000 See action. 501 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,759 On the basis of it in the merits because it's too early in 502 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:22,000 the process. 503 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 So. 504 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000 You found that. 505 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Complain is not actionable. 506 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 And then it would go to the board. 507 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Whether you want to recommend to the board. 508 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Ethics as a whole. 509 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 That's the correct. 510 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Yeah. 511 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Here we decide. 512 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,750 Do you want to recommend that the whole board consider it 513 00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:40,000 as for less. 514 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 And then the next step would be. 515 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Is it. 516 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Yeah. 517 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,740 And then the other option is just to say it's just baseless 518 00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:47,000 . 519 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 And then it doesn't go to the board. 520 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 The formality. 521 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,000 So those are, I think the two places. 522 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:02,000 And the formality hearing allows you to sanction. 523 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 The formality hearing allows you to do that. 524 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 And then the other option is to say, 525 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 I think the formality hearing is just a formality hearing. 526 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,700 It just means that the rest of our fellow board members 527 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:12,000 will then get to 528 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000 weigh in. 529 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000 It'll be evidentiary. So the complaint. 530 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 And respondent. 531 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Will come in or should. 532 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 The respondent would not respond to it. 533 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 At that stage. 534 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 It's not required. 535 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Complainant. 536 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 It is not required either. 537 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Because. 538 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Then. 539 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Just not showing up with dismiss it. Right. 540 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 And then the other option is to say, 541 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 I think the formality hearing is just a formality hearing. 542 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 They are allowed to come and represent themselves. 543 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 You're not required to. 544 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 I think it. 545 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Kind of essentially switches the board to. 546 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Y'all to this. 547 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 The primary panel. 548 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,000 And then as the respondent. 549 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,000 And so I'm hearing. 550 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000 And that's what's up. 551 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000 What you want. 552 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Yeah. 553 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 I guess. 554 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,000 The. 555 00:21:53,000 --> 00:22:03,000 I'm trying to like wage. 556 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000 To me. 557 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 The probability thing seems like it's going to. 558 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Divide the attention. 559 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 But I mean, I hear what. 560 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 So the, I guess the concern. 561 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 With not doing that is that. 562 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 We, we end up with. 563 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Another. 564 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Ethics complaint next week. 565 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 That is also. 566 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Not actionable and potentially frivolous. 567 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 And part of our. 568 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Part of it. 569 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 If we go to. 570 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Have an interior hearing for frivolity. 571 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 And. 572 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Based on that, we find that it was frivolous. 573 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,000 We can. 574 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Then we have some, some ability to limit. 575 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Those. 576 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Frivolous complaints. 577 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Okay. 578 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000 To the court. 579 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000 To determine what. 580 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Yeah. 581 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Remedy or sanctions. 582 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 I guess. 583 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 So I'm hearing. 584 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 I think the recommendation is. 585 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,000 To. 586 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 To go to the frivolous. 587 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 I know there is a motion on the table. 588 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I haven't heard a second. 589 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Okay. 590 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 There is a motion to recommend that. 591 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 To recommend the frivolity. 592 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Okay. 593 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 I think we're ready to go. 594 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 So let me just restate. 595 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Yes. 596 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 The motion is. 597 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 To recommend to the board. 598 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Of ethics as frivolous. 599 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 And for the board to hold the. 600 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Right. 601 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 So. 602 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 To recommend that. 603 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 I think it's that we can forward considering this. 604 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000 To the board. 605 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000 To determine. 606 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 I don't think we can do that. 607 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000 This chart. 608 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Yeah. 609 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 I made that chart. 610 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Let me look at what. 611 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000 The three. 612 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Member. 613 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Says. 614 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Could the ethics. 615 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Be frivolous. 616 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 And if you say yes. 617 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Then. 618 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 You go to the board. 619 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 With the. 620 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Event. 621 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Hearing. 622 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Yeah. 623 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,000 The narrative says if a complaint is not actionable. 624 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,000 The panel may consider recommending that a hearing be first 625 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,000 held. 626 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,250 On an accepted complaint to determine if it may be frivol 627 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:11,000 ous. 628 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Right. 629 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Yeah. 630 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000 So this is. 631 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 We would be recommending that. 632 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Okay. 633 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000 So you don't make. 634 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Determination. 635 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Recommend. 636 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000 So we're. 637 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Finding it. 638 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000 And. 639 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Not. 640 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Not actionable. 641 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Not actionable. 642 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Yeah. 643 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Recommended. 644 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Recommended. 645 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Recommended. 646 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Recommended. 647 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000 So we're clear on the motion. 648 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Would you mind saying it one more time. 649 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Just for. 650 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Clarity. 651 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000 The motion to recommend. 652 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 To the board of ethics. 653 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:54,000 That. 654 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Hearing first be held. 655 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Ethics. 656 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Complaint. 657 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Could be. 658 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Frivolous. 659 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 And. 660 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 To. 661 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Hold the. 662 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Evidence. 663 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Hearing. 664 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Yeah. 665 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Hold a hearing to determine. 666 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Ethics. 667 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Complaint. 668 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 26. 669 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 One. 670 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 It's. 671 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Frivolous. 672 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Okay. 673 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Ready to vote. 674 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,000 On the paper. 675 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 All right. 676 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000 That's unanimous. 677 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000 So I believe that. 678 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000 And. 679 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000 And. 680 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 I believe we have 30 calendar days. 681 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000 To schedule that. 682 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Yeah. 683 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000 So we will be in touch. 684 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,000 To. 685 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Hold that. 686 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Okay. 687 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 This is the attorney going to be there. 688 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,000 I. 689 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000 I. 690 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Just kind of. 691 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Joking. 692 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 I don't believe he's required to be there. 693 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,000 But. 694 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 I don't believe he's required to be there. 695 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I don't believe he's required to be there. 696 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 But. 697 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 I can ask him to be there. 698 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,000 I think last time we had a hearing that both came. 699 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 But. 700 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 I can't remember. 701 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 And the only other. 702 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Issue. 703 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 In your opinion. 704 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Do you want to attach the charter provision to it? 705 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Yes. 706 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000 I would definitely like to attach the. 707 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000 So do I have a motion to recommend that. 708 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000 I recommend. 709 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000 I can. 710 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,000 I'm not going to. 711 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Yeah. 712 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Yes. 713 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,000 It's. 714 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,000 It's. 715 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 That would be our. 716 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Our. 717 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Our. 718 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Our. 719 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Our. 720 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Basically your recommendation. 721 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Letter notification letter. 722 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Yeah. 723 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 So I can do it. 724 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,579 I'll make a motion that we attach section six point zero to 725 00:26:39,579 --> 00:26:40,000 . 726 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 To our opinion. 727 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000 From this. 728 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 I'll second that. 729 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Okay. 730 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Any discussion on that. 731 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Paper. 732 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000 I. 733 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 You know. 734 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Is there anything else we should attach. 735 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Just in the opinion. 736 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000 I can make reference to the rights. 737 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,160 City attorney to represent himself in an individual 738 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,000 capacity. 739 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Yeah. 740 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 I think that's. 741 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000 I think that's. 742 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 It seems like that's the two things I know. 743 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Recommendation. 744 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Provide any information. 745 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,000 I don't want to. 746 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Wait for the. 747 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Yeah. 748 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:41,000 I think. 749 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Well, yeah. 750 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 So I think that that's fine. 751 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Yeah. 752 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000 To attach that. 753 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000 That way. 754 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Anybody's reading this. 755 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 You know. 756 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 City attorneys just doing his duty. 757 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Couldn't prevent. 758 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Complaints like this. 759 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 That's the point. 760 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Yeah. 761 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Okay. 762 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Thank you. 763 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Thank you. 764 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Thank you. 765 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000 Thank you.