WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.600 432 good afternoon. My name is Marty rivers. I'm chair of the 00:00:06.600 --> 00:00:11.320 economic development partnership board. It is 1102 and we will 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.700 call this meeting to order. Thank you all for being here 00:00:14.700 --> 00:00:20.460 today. Our first item for consideration is the minutes of 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:27.420 our October 9 2019 meeting that was dispersed in advance. So 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:30.920 we got a motion. 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:35.440 Second and a second. 00:00:35.440 --> 00:00:38.360 Any further discussion? 00:00:38.360 --> 00:00:39.040 I'm sorry. 00:00:39.040 --> 00:00:41.400 Motion to make a motion. 00:00:41.400 --> 00:00:44.600 He made the motion that Chris went second. 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.360 And any discussion? 00:00:47.360 --> 00:00:49.640 All those in favor say aye. 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.320 Any opposed? 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:53.720 Motion carries. 00:00:53.720 --> 00:00:55.240 That's our approved. 00:00:56.040 --> 00:01:01.120 Our next item is EDP 19.081. Receive a report, hold a 00:01:01.120 --> 00:01:03.600 discussion and give staff direction regarding the annual 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.720 marketing plan from the Chamber of Commerce Office of Economic 00:01:07.720 --> 00:01:11.400 Development. And Erica Pangberg will give that presentation 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:11.800 today. 00:01:11.800 --> 00:01:23.120 So as you know, Adam Fevoreski has left the general chamber to 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.000 pursue other opportunities. So what you won't see in these 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.520 slides is the number one item on our marketing plan is to search 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:34.080 out and hire a new marketer. But that pending we have this 00:01:34.080 --> 00:01:37.280 completed before he left. So I'm going to go ahead and share with 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.720 you what our plans are moving forward. 00:01:39.720 --> 00:01:50.200 Okay, our office is hired, contacted by the city to do the 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.840 marketing of the economic development activities. And 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.760 this is just a brief outline of what our plans are for this 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:00.000 year. The components of our marketing plan are a timeline 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:03.480 for plant and digital advice, maintenance and updates to 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:08.600 DentonEDP.com platforms and scheduling for our social media 00:02:08.600 --> 00:02:14.680 and our plan marketing trips. I do want to say the city of 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:19.400 Denton's strategic plan is an action oriented roadmap that's 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.400 going to help the city achieve its vision. Under that plan are 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:25.960 five long term key focus areas, organizational excellence, 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.640 public infrastructure, economic development, safe, livable 00:02:29.640 --> 00:02:32.360 family friendly community and sustainable environmental 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:36.040 stewardship. Our fulfillment under that plan is obviously the 00:02:36.040 --> 00:02:39.160 economic development arm. So we're going to continue to 00:02:39.160 --> 00:02:43.360 pursue that. I know the city is contracting with an outside 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.360 organization to set in place a new strategic plan, which we 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.080 anticipate taking place over the next 12 months. So in that time, 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.560 we're going to continue operating with the old one, but 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.560 we look forward to what the new plan is going to look like to 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.400 make sure that we're meeting those deliverables and marketing 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:05.840 Denton in the most effective way possible. Some of the 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.040 publications that we market Denton in are Site Selection 00:03:10.040 --> 00:03:15.760 Magazine. And the other one is the Dallas Regional Chambers 00:03:15.760 --> 00:03:19.640 Economic Development Guide. We partner with site selectors 00:03:19.640 --> 00:03:23.240 across the country and also obviously with the Dallas region 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:28.240 to bring visitors and draw attraction to Denton. So those 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:32.520 are big printed publications that we participate in. Karen, 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:34.640 are there any other printed publications that we're in? 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:42.480 Another thing that we do is there's a, there are so many 00:03:42.480 --> 00:03:46.200 site selector shows, trade shows, opportunities to market 00:03:46.200 --> 00:03:49.480 Denton across the country that with an office of two people, we 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:52.480 can't cover them all. And it's also not financially sustainable 00:03:52.480 --> 00:03:55.320 to hit all of them. So what we do is we park it. We partner 00:03:55.320 --> 00:03:58.520 with site selectors. In this case, his name is Mark Darcy, 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.600 and he hits all the shows that we can't get. And he goes to 00:04:01.600 --> 00:04:04.240 represent Denton and takes our banner and takes our information 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.080 so we can have coverage across multiple areas at the same time. 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:12.920 Some of those trade shows and contacts that we have through 00:04:12.920 --> 00:04:16.080 him are listed here on the screen. And that's a sample of 00:04:16.080 --> 00:04:18.600 our banner. I believe we have a new banner. 00:04:18.640 --> 00:04:22.480 It's actually the banner that's on his website. 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.680 Okay, and we have a new banner that he takes with him also that 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:27.720 features Peterbilt. That's right. 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:32.840 Maintenance and regular maintenance and updates to 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:35.920 DentonEDP.com. I'm sure you're all familiar with this website. 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:39.080 We want to keep the information up there as current as possible. 00:04:39.080 --> 00:04:43.440 And we're working on an updated plan that will launch in 2021. 00:04:45.640 --> 00:04:48.920 Our social media platforms that we're active on posting by 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:52.040 monthly on LinkedIn, weekly on Facebook and weekly on Twitter. 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:59.440 We are funded in two ways. So we're funded publicly through 00:04:59.440 --> 00:05:02.320 the contract with the city. And then we also raise our own 00:05:02.320 --> 00:05:06.600 private funding. That funding is broken up into our professional 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:09.240 development and our target marketing, and then private is 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:10.360 just for target marketing. 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:15.400 Under the operations publicly funded budget. These are the way 00:05:15.400 --> 00:05:19.360 we break out our budget planning and so professional development. 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:24.800 Those are memberships in the TEDC and the IEDC for continuing 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.520 practices, best practices, and continuing certifications, 00:05:28.520 --> 00:05:32.000 recertifications. We also participate in targeted marketing 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.320 groups, Team Texas, the Southern ED Council, the DFW, Martin 00:05:36.320 --> 00:05:37.400 Team and NACAR. 00:05:37.400 --> 00:05:39.960 Erica, what does the two mean? 00:05:39.960 --> 00:05:45.080 There's two trips each year for those. 00:05:45.640 --> 00:05:48.600 We're two marketing opportunities. On the private side, 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.440 as you know, under our contract, we are required to raise a 00:05:51.440 --> 00:05:55.960 minimum of $75,000 in private investor dollars. And we use 00:05:55.960 --> 00:06:00.360 those dollars to maintain memberships in these groups and 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:01.800 to fund these trips. 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.720 Any questions so far? 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:18.120 So with the $75,000, is that enough for these? And if you 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:22.880 raised more, would you do more in this department with your 00:06:22.880 --> 00:06:24.840 private funding or would it go towards something else? 00:06:24.840 --> 00:06:30.360 I'm not going to say that isn't enough. Of course, if we raise 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.640 more, we would absolutely do more. There's always more to be 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:36.760 done. We split it up. It's split under the requirements of the 00:06:36.760 --> 00:06:40.280 contract. So we try to use those dollars on the private side also 00:06:40.280 --> 00:06:43.840 as effectively as we can in other areas that will supplement 00:06:43.840 --> 00:06:45.040 areas of the contract. 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:49.680 You might so we raised more than $75,000 this year or use some 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.000 of those funds to go into 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.440 action. Right. So we did raise more this year. And right now, 00:06:55.440 --> 00:06:59.400 Jessica from the city's ED office, and Marshall Culpepper 00:06:59.400 --> 00:07:02.960 who works with Stoke, we wanted to pursue we know we talk a lot 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:06.240 about technology being something we want to pursue. So Jessica and 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.720 Marshall are at a tech conference right now in San 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.840 Diego that we use private funds to send them to to build those 00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:15.560 relationships. So the answer is yes, we'll absolutely do more. 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:16.960 That's always the goal. 00:07:16.960 --> 00:07:24.680 Eric, I have a question. Yes, sir. It says 1819. Is that and 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.160 the one before it said 1920. So 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.000 I'm sorry, I don't want to go backwards. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.320 I didn't know. 00:07:32.320 --> 00:07:35.920 That's his marketing trips. You're right. So should that 00:07:35.960 --> 00:07:40.880 other one by 1920 also? Okay, that's okay. I just wanted to 00:07:40.880 --> 00:07:44.840 make sure. Thank you. This is the plans for next year. We want 00:07:44.840 --> 00:07:47.040 to maintain what we're doing. And we're going to add a few 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.680 things as directed. Like I said, we are in the middle of searching 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:55.680 for a new development director. And we also have formed a we 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.320 meet with our private investors, check in with them and see where 00:07:59.320 --> 00:08:01.560 they want to go. So we're looking at planning for new 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.000 opportunities. And under the consultants that are coming in, 00:08:05.320 --> 00:08:09.440 we've asked them to tell us if the areas that the city and the 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:12.360 chamber have decided to target on are the areas we should be 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.440 target targeting. So we're going to get those answers first 00:08:15.440 --> 00:08:17.680 before we make out any more specific plans and planning 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.840 trips. But we are looking to do the most effective marketing on 00:08:20.840 --> 00:08:23.440 Dennis. I did have one other question. Yes. 00:08:23.440 --> 00:08:30.720 What do you find to be your most productive endeavor when it 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.960 comes to the marketing? Where do you get most of your bang? Or 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:35.420 is that is that a fair statement? 00:08:35.420 --> 00:08:39.840 I'm going to defer to Karen, I mean, I know a lot of it has, 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.120 there's so many, it's, it's a matter of timing, we're 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.920 maintaining relationships with site selectors. So a closed deal 00:08:46.920 --> 00:08:49.360 is always going to be the most productive. We're going to point 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.480 to that's the most productive thing we've just done. But 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.880 Karen, if you want to talk about some specific opportunities. 00:08:53.880 --> 00:08:58.560 And like Erica says, it's a relationship building process. 00:08:59.040 --> 00:09:05.680 It's getting the name of it out there. Currently. Right one this 00:09:05.680 --> 00:09:10.520 way. No, that way. There it is. Team Texas is on both our 00:09:10.520 --> 00:09:14.440 operations and private side. That is where a delegation from 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:19.000 the state go out and advertise the state. You don't advertise 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.160 didn't even talk to someone about didn't, of course, but 00:09:22.160 --> 00:09:26.960 you're advertising the entire state. And we try to do is two 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.280 of those every year. And then we last year we had enough funding 00:09:30.280 --> 00:09:35.760 to do two and private two and operations. And the other kind 00:09:35.760 --> 00:09:42.520 of off tangent there, sorry. The operation funds are normally 00:09:42.520 --> 00:09:49.840 annual conferences, or specific conferences to a industry, where 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:55.720 sometimes the private side is more of a consultants, more that 00:09:55.760 --> 00:10:00.320 relationship building, not necessarily all about the 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:06.840 particular targeted industries. And thus far, the probably the 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:10.360 best one that we've gone to are the team Texas ones, because 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.480 they have a variety of industries that they're looking 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.560 at for manufacturing, aerospace, industrial specs, and things of 00:10:18.560 --> 00:10:19.080 that nature. 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:20.000 Thank you. 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:25.920 Like I add the site selectors, because they can represent so 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:30.480 many countries, and my country's so many companies, and types of 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.400 companies, instead of going just to an industrial conference, 00:10:33.400 --> 00:10:36.520 site selectors are working for companies all over the United 00:10:36.520 --> 00:10:38.840 States will have the relationships with those guys 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:42.080 who are in that business. A company that's looking at 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:45.680 moving their headquarters from California to Texas is going to 00:10:45.680 --> 00:10:48.960 hire somebody to do that we're not going to have a relationship 00:10:49.160 --> 00:10:51.560 or meet someone in a conference and they're going to call us 00:10:51.560 --> 00:10:54.560 directly to the site selectors that are the ones that 00:10:54.560 --> 00:10:58.800 that's what I was going to add, it's collecting as many already 00:10:58.800 --> 00:11:01.680 established relationships as we can, is where we're going to get 00:11:01.680 --> 00:11:02.720 the best bang for our buck. 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:04.720 I have one more question. 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:05.240 Yes, sir. 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:10.160 So you say you have these sites selectors that we're using to 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:15.080 help send us business. How do we make it worth their while? How 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.840 do we make them happy? What do they get out of it? We're not 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.040 we're not using them. Companies hire them and we have to stay on 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:26.840 their radar. Just like we don't have site selectors. Companies 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.400 hire site selectors. And we need to make sure they know that in 00:11:31.400 --> 00:11:34.320 Texas out there, we're raising our hand enough to where they 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.200 recognize. Absolutely. Okay. All right. 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.720 Thank you being responsive as RFPs and providing the data that 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:41.160 they're requesting as well. 00:11:41.160 --> 00:11:45.800 Absolutely. The more information that we can get them the quicker 00:11:45.800 --> 00:11:55.000 the process. Thank you for educating product. And here's 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.560 where you did that. Are there any more questions? 00:11:57.560 --> 00:12:01.880 So what's our plan for replacing this condition that we have to 00:12:01.880 --> 00:12:05.200 fill now? What kind of person are we looking for? 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.320 We're looking for someone with a minimum of six years already 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:11.440 working in the industry looking for someone who is a certified 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.920 economic developer. That's not a certification that you can begin 00:12:14.920 --> 00:12:17.240 to apply for until you've already been working in the 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:20.760 industry for years. We're looking for someone from a city 00:12:20.760 --> 00:12:23.560 who is either coming from a metro or a city this size 00:12:23.560 --> 00:12:27.160 already. There's lots of personality types that I would 00:12:27.160 --> 00:12:29.560 love to put in there and get them the necessary certifications, 00:12:29.560 --> 00:12:32.280 but we don't have that kind of time. So we're putting together 00:12:32.280 --> 00:12:35.720 a search committee of people who understand the economic 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.840 development of this region. And I believe we've even invited a 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.000 former economic developer to sit on our search committee. We're 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.760 looking for someone who's already at the top of their game 00:12:43.760 --> 00:12:46.680 and has those relationships that we talked about. We don't want 00:12:46.680 --> 00:12:47.400 to waste any time. 00:12:47.400 --> 00:12:52.160 So you know, typically when you you know, you have somebody 00:12:52.160 --> 00:12:56.120 believe like this, you can reevaluate, you know, what he 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.360 what he or she brought to the table, what did they always 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.120 what was their strengths, what were their weaknesses and how 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:08.400 you going forward, find somebody that maybe has more, you know, 00:13:08.400 --> 00:13:11.480 different strengths, less witnesses, all the above. So 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:17.600 once again, how do we how do we find this person? Do we send 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:23.160 out? Do we use social media? Do we use, you know, our people 00:13:23.160 --> 00:13:26.040 that we know in the industry? How do we identify our 00:13:26.040 --> 00:13:27.080 candidates, I guess. 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:32.680 So we already have the listing on the TTC and IEDC both have 00:13:32.680 --> 00:13:36.240 job listings. So most economic developers will who are looking 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.160 for work in Texas will go to one of those two sites to look for 00:13:39.160 --> 00:13:41.960 that. So they are already looking for us. We are actually 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.520 also talking to a group that head hunts these particular 00:13:45.520 --> 00:13:50.480 candidates. So we're hoping to not use social media probably. 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.120 And again, as far as the metrics for evaluation, that's something 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.320 that the site selection or the selection committee is looking 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:58.840 on. Absolutely. 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:02.760 Will this board be involved in that selection party anyway? Or 00:14:02.760 --> 00:14:03.160 is that 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:13.440 no, that's a chamber internal. I don't mind confirmation, but Jill 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:19.640 and Jeff Jill is chair Jeff is incoming chair and myself. That's 00:14:19.640 --> 00:14:24.080 Jim Fikes. Jim is the former chair of this or member of this 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:30.600 committee, the Chamber Board, Tim, Francis, Francis, who is 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:32.200 with us cold storage. 00:14:32.760 --> 00:14:35.360 He's actually a former economic development general plan 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:35.960 manager. 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:48.960 So I could be great to make that decision. 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.480 Interested? 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:53.600 You know, there's room. 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:57.920 I'm not volunteering for it. But if you need somebody else to 00:14:57.920 --> 00:14:58.400 sit in. 00:14:58.400 --> 00:15:02.400 I think it's an important, important higher forces at this 00:15:02.400 --> 00:15:06.640 point in time. I'm wondering, you know, a lot of our you know, 00:15:06.640 --> 00:15:09.800 this consulting thing we're going through, obviously, we're 00:15:09.800 --> 00:15:13.160 very early in that process. It would be nice to have kind of 00:15:13.160 --> 00:15:18.360 completed that. And let them give us some feedback over what 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:21.440 that role needs to look like, if at all different than what it's 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.280 looked like in the past. But you have a better feel for that. 00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:26.640 You hit the nail on the head. 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:33.600 We're in the middle of a relook at how we should do things city 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.760 and chamber wide. And we've got a job opening. And if those 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:42.360 results come back, you need a different set of skills or do 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.960 this a different way. So one of the things that we've talked 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.280 about is even pursuing somebody to do this on an interim basis. 00:15:49.280 --> 00:15:53.280 I'll ask that. So if we if we wait, how much ground do we 00:15:53.280 --> 00:15:57.160 lose? You know, if we wait, you know, three months or six months 00:15:57.160 --> 00:15:59.400 to, you know, get some feedback from the study. 00:15:59.400 --> 00:16:07.320 We're also obviously want to when we have final candidates 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.600 narrowed down, we'll want to meet with the city staff also 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:11.480 because that's somebody that they're going to work closely 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.960 with. We want to open all the lines of communication and make 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.760 sure that that's going to be a successful partnership. 00:16:16.760 --> 00:16:20.440 Thank you. 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:22.400 Anyone else? 00:16:22.400 --> 00:16:25.480 Thank you. 00:16:27.400 --> 00:16:28.000 And 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.600 on to our next 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:36.600 regular that we're just gonna talk about it. 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:42.000 Our next item is ADP 19. That's your way to receive report whole 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.120 discussion to give staff direction regarding canceling 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:49.040 the regularly scheduled meetings for December 11 and 00:16:49.040 --> 00:16:51.880 January 8 for the partnership board. 00:16:54.160 --> 00:16:58.960 Understanding is we don't have any items to speak of in the 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:03.200 next month. And then the eight just give them the way it falls 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.760 is right after the holidays. And doesn't mean that we couldn't 00:17:06.760 --> 00:17:13.200 call especially called meeting if we had something pop up. Just 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:18.440 want to throw the idea out there to talk about a lot of times we 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:20.800 have trouble making quorum in those months because of the 00:17:20.800 --> 00:17:23.720 holidays. And that's not specific to this committee. It's 00:17:23.800 --> 00:17:25.480 with a multiple committees. 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:35.560 If we have a project that has a timeline of anybody wants more 00:17:35.560 --> 00:17:37.200 meetings, let's go back. 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:46.080 We don't have anything pressing for the December 11 meeting. And 00:17:46.080 --> 00:17:48.960 then the January eight is only a week after I think there's a 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.680 lot of folks on vacation a week before if something pops up, we 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:54.560 can certainly try to get everybody together and have a 00:17:54.560 --> 00:17:58.600 meeting. So anybody want to make a motion regarding those two 00:17:58.600 --> 00:18:06.160 days so move second, enthusiastically second cancel the 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.200 December and January meetings like I want to be heard. 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:18.760 Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any 00:18:18.760 --> 00:18:27.560 opposed? Motion carries. And our last item or item D is our 00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:33.320 staff reports. And we've got our staff here. If anybody wants to 00:18:33.320 --> 00:18:37.320 talk or anything you want to point out and make sure we're 00:18:37.320 --> 00:18:43.320 aware of nothing really to point out a customary. Eric and I are 00:18:43.320 --> 00:18:44.560 here to answer any questions. 00:18:48.760 --> 00:19:01.040 I think it's the city data. There's not anything present. It 00:19:01.040 --> 00:19:19.520 just says ongoing. Some of them have a number. If it says 00:19:19.520 --> 00:19:21.720 ongoing and there's no number, does that mean there's no 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.520 number? Well, for example, like if you take the site visits, 00:19:24.520 --> 00:19:27.400 business retention and expansion visits, that's going to 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.360 continue. You have a target set for the year, but it ends at 00:19:30.360 --> 00:19:32.880 the end of fiscal year and then it starts again for the next 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.280 fiscal year. My question is if it's blank, does that mean zero? 00:19:36.280 --> 00:19:45.280 Yes, if it's blank that we only have one month of reporting. So 00:19:45.280 --> 00:19:46.360 yeah, okay. 00:19:46.360 --> 00:20:00.080 I have a opportunity maybe to I like to get the groups consensus 00:20:00.080 --> 00:20:05.000 on for a pending item to talk about in the next couple of 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:14.760 months. The city has drastically changed the development fee 00:20:14.760 --> 00:20:18.640 schedule for new projects. And there's been a lot of 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:25.400 conversation going back and forth on the schedule. And I 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:33.560 think that that is important enough subject to its economic 00:20:33.560 --> 00:20:37.320 development subject to as far as anybody coming to town that 00:20:37.320 --> 00:20:40.320 wants to do any kind of development, whether that's big, 00:20:40.320 --> 00:20:46.800 large or small. So I would love for get your opinion on whether 00:20:46.800 --> 00:20:51.000 that's something you'd like to take up as a group just to hear 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:54.480 the discussion on that. We it's been through city councils, but 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:58.600 there's meetings going back and forth between local folks and 00:20:58.600 --> 00:21:05.800 city staff and the development office. But there's there's some 00:21:05.800 --> 00:21:09.040 drastic changes and what it's going to cost to bring a new 00:21:09.040 --> 00:21:15.480 project to do. Can you give us a taste? 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:19.120 Well, there's been a number of changes done at the state level. 00:21:19.120 --> 00:21:22.880 It's not just specific to Denton that we're trying to incorporate 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:27.960 what the state is requiring. That's part of it. The other 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:36.440 part is the fees, the fees. So dramatic increases in fees that 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:40.960 I'm getting feedback is not comparable to other cities. 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:49.120 Yeah, so that fee schedule has already been approved. Before 00:21:49.120 --> 00:21:54.760 this fiscal year, we did a cost of service study in the 00:21:54.760 --> 00:21:58.240 development services department. And there was a $3 million 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:03.680 subsidy from the taxpayers that was popping up those. And so we 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:09.400 tried to right size the fees a little bit. And so I mean, I 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:14.640 would be okay with having the support review those and look at 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:19.560 them. But as far as what we can do to change them, I'm not really 00:22:19.560 --> 00:22:23.160 sure if that's what you wanted to discuss. 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:28.560 I think I would like to see this board hear about what the fees 00:22:28.560 --> 00:22:33.760 are. And I would love to get a assuming this happened in the 00:22:33.760 --> 00:22:36.520 course of the business. But what is if I'm bringing a new 00:22:36.520 --> 00:22:44.360 multifamily project to Denton and my fees are X, is that the 00:22:44.360 --> 00:22:47.560 same? What are the fees and the other compared to our competitor 00:22:47.560 --> 00:22:54.200 cities? Are they twice as much less equal to because I don't 00:22:54.200 --> 00:23:00.320 know that every city is is trying to cover their cost of 00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:02.600 service and their planning and development department with 00:23:02.600 --> 00:23:08.960 with fees. And also I would like to see if we could take a 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.800 project that had gone through our system last year under the 00:23:12.800 --> 00:23:16.760 whole fee schedule and what the changes to that would be because 00:23:16.760 --> 00:23:22.160 I'm hearing from folks within Denton and outside of Denton 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.720 that are wanting to do projects in town that are a gasp at what 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:30.360 the new fees are, are and compared to other cities that 00:23:30.360 --> 00:23:35.040 they're working in. And it's the difference of not doing it. Or 00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:39.400 maybe instead of doing a project that's all great, you're now 00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:45.760 doing it with signing. Yeah, I think it would be useful for 00:23:45.760 --> 00:23:49.800 anybody involved in economic development to know about the 00:23:49.800 --> 00:23:52.640 process we went through to get to those fees and what they are 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.720 and like you said, some of the differences between last fiscal 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.680 year and the current fiscal year. And as Keely said, it was 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.440 the result of a cost of service study. And that there was a lot 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.640 of general fund money going into those departments that was not 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.120 being recovered through the fees and talking about the kind of 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.640 one for one stuff and engineers looking at plans, not being 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.320 fully compensated, the city not being fully compensated for the 00:24:15.320 --> 00:24:20.840 time the staff has been doing those things. I kind of liken it 00:24:20.840 --> 00:24:23.640 to, you know, when I hear about somebody who says their electric 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.560 bill is higher, now that they've moved to Denton and they have to 00:24:26.560 --> 00:24:30.240 be on DME. And I wish we just had like a pamphlet we could 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.920 handle. Here's the reason why your electric bill is higher. Our 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.640 rates are actually lower than where you moved from. You just 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.440 have an old air conditioner or drafty house or whatever it is. 00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:42.800 I'd like to at least have this community kind of the economic 00:24:42.800 --> 00:24:46.320 development community, knowledgeable and armed with good 00:24:46.320 --> 00:24:51.480 information on how do we stack up to other cities? Are we are 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:54.360 we in fact higher? Is it higher depending on your project? Is it 00:24:54.360 --> 00:24:57.920 higher depending on some of the the circumstances of your site 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:02.600 and the site conditions that are different? So that we kind of 00:25:02.600 --> 00:25:06.040 have apples to apples comparisons when a site selector 00:25:06.040 --> 00:25:08.720 says, for instance, at some conference, you know, I'm having 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.520 trouble marketing debt. And right now, those fees are so high. 00:25:11.520 --> 00:25:14.080 And the people who are meeting with those folks know the 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:16.800 information, they can say, Yes, you're right, development fees 00:25:16.800 --> 00:25:20.480 went up last year. But they're not the way you're thinking, or 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.120 actually, you need to go ahead and start talking to some of our 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:28.120 development folks, and planning folks, and getting the kind of 00:25:28.120 --> 00:25:31.200 real deal on what your project is going to cost, as opposed to 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.920 what you think it's going to cost compared to last year. So I 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.920 think more information is always better. And this is exactly the 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.160 group of folks you should, you should have that information. 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.440 Yeah, I'm not saying do anything about it. I just like it'd be 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.840 nice as this group, but it's something that can and may 00:25:48.840 --> 00:25:51.960 affect economic development. And it's like, this would be a good 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:54.080 group to hear that information about it. 00:25:54.080 --> 00:25:57.800 We can certainly talk with Scott McDonald and talk about bringing 00:25:57.800 --> 00:26:01.320 something back to the board. We also have something that you all 00:26:01.320 --> 00:26:04.520 may not be aware of. And we can email out afterwards. But we have 00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:07.520 open counter. I think Christina's presented this to the 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:09.760 board, but not all board members have seen it, depending on when 00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:13.920 you came on. But you can go on and you set what your business 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:18.440 is. You can check zoning, you can estimate all your permits 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.240 and fees using that. So we could even use a business that we did 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.440 last year. And this year, internally, we can provide that 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.440 with for you as well, the same business, Christina can do that. 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:28.320 She's our staff liaison for open counter. 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:35.600 With the result being a straight difference between if you had 00:26:35.600 --> 00:26:39.760 applied for it prior year versus this year, what the true 00:26:39.760 --> 00:26:40.680 difference in the 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.280 as long as open counter has been updated. I know they've been 00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:46.240 working on it as soon as it's complete. It's not already 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:47.520 complete. We can check on that. 00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:51.360 I would definitely be in favor. 00:26:51.360 --> 00:26:55.200 Just good morning. We don't have a agenda posted for this. I 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.800 know the deliberation is really focused on can we bring this 00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:07.200 back? I would be in favor of that presentation. And also add 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.760 in the impact view discussion, which has not come to council. 00:27:10.760 --> 00:27:18.560 That I would request for that to be the roadway. Yes. 00:27:18.560 --> 00:27:26.000 Mr. Chair, someone along the same lines is there. I just 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:31.040 noticed one of the the businesses that we had approved 00:27:31.040 --> 00:27:36.080 supporting on the square is already closed. Do we ever do a 00:27:36.080 --> 00:27:38.320 perform a comparison? 00:27:38.320 --> 00:27:43.960 I'm gonna make a slight observation about that. So 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.920 that's the downtown economic development task force grants. 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:53.520 The key there is that those are for the buildings and not for 00:27:53.520 --> 00:27:58.920 the businesses. So for that very reason, the money doesn't go to 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.520 the business and stays with the building. So the upgrades to the 00:28:01.520 --> 00:28:05.600 facade stay there no matter who comes back, they have to spend 00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:09.280 the money and get reimbursed if they do what they want to say. 00:28:09.280 --> 00:28:11.480 That's the property owner, not the business, the proposed 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:11.920 business. 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.320 It's the property owner. In that case, in theory, having done 00:28:17.320 --> 00:28:22.720 those upgrades to that building should help them get somebody 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:24.160 else in there too. Thank you. 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:28.080 Good point. That's a good observation. That's specifically 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:31.520 why it's building not on business. 00:28:31.520 --> 00:28:40.960 So we're, I think we agreed to add that to the one of our 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:46.000 agenda items in the coming months after December, January. 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.720 Yes, we'll definitely look into it. 00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.840 Any other discussion? I would like to take this opportunity to 00:28:53.840 --> 00:28:57.800 invite all of you to get tickets for our December quarterly 00:28:57.800 --> 00:29:01.720 luncheon. When you mentioned other communities, the CFO of 00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.600 the Dallas Cowboys will be our featured speaker. And he's going 00:29:04.600 --> 00:29:08.000 to talk about why organizations like his choose the communities 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:08.560 that they did. 00:29:08.560 --> 00:29:10.640 Who's that? 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.400 I can't remember his name right now. I knew you would ask me. 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:14.520 My name is Jones. 00:29:14.520 --> 00:29:15.880 It's not Jones. 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.920 Agent of Jones. 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.760 Cool. That's CPA, buddy. When is that? 00:29:22.760 --> 00:29:24.200 It is December 12. 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:35.120 Any other observations for the good of the order? 00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:40.000 Call the meeting adjourned. Thank you for being here today.