1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,600 432 good afternoon. My name is Marty rivers. I'm chair of the 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,320 economic development partnership board. It is 1102 and we will 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,700 call this meeting to order. Thank you all for being here 4 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:20,460 today. Our first item for consideration is the minutes of 5 00:00:20,460 --> 00:00:27,420 our October 9 2019 meeting that was dispersed in advance. So 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,920 we got a motion. 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Second and a second. 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Any further discussion? 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,040 I'm sorry. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Motion to make a motion. 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,600 He made the motion that Chris went second. 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,360 And any discussion? 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,640 All those in favor say aye. 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Any opposed? 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,720 Motion carries. 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,240 That's our approved. 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Our next item is EDP 19.081. Receive a report, hold a 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,600 discussion and give staff direction regarding the annual 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,720 marketing plan from the Chamber of Commerce Office of Economic 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,400 Development. And Erica Pangberg will give that presentation 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:11,800 today. 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:23,120 So as you know, Adam Fevoreski has left the general chamber to 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 pursue other opportunities. So what you won't see in these 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,520 slides is the number one item on our marketing plan is to search 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,080 out and hire a new marketer. But that pending we have this 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,280 completed before he left. So I'm going to go ahead and share with 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 you what our plans are moving forward. 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Okay, our office is hired, contacted by the city to do the 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 marketing of the economic development activities. And 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,760 this is just a brief outline of what our plans are for this 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,000 year. The components of our marketing plan are a timeline 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,480 for plant and digital advice, maintenance and updates to 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,600 DentonEDP.com platforms and scheduling for our social media 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:14,680 and our plan marketing trips. I do want to say the city of 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,400 Denton's strategic plan is an action oriented roadmap that's 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,400 going to help the city achieve its vision. Under that plan are 37 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,960 five long term key focus areas, organizational excellence, 38 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,640 public infrastructure, economic development, safe, livable 39 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:32,360 family friendly community and sustainable environmental 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,040 stewardship. Our fulfillment under that plan is obviously the 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,160 economic development arm. So we're going to continue to 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,360 pursue that. I know the city is contracting with an outside 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,360 organization to set in place a new strategic plan, which we 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,080 anticipate taking place over the next 12 months. So in that time, 45 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 we're going to continue operating with the old one, but 46 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,560 we look forward to what the new plan is going to look like to 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,400 make sure that we're meeting those deliverables and marketing 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Denton in the most effective way possible. Some of the 49 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,040 publications that we market Denton in are Site Selection 50 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Magazine. And the other one is the Dallas Regional Chambers 51 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Economic Development Guide. We partner with site selectors 52 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:23,240 across the country and also obviously with the Dallas region 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,240 to bring visitors and draw attraction to Denton. So those 54 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,520 are big printed publications that we participate in. Karen, 55 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,640 are there any other printed publications that we're in? 56 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Another thing that we do is there's a, there are so many 57 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,200 site selector shows, trade shows, opportunities to market 58 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Denton across the country that with an office of two people, we 59 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,480 can't cover them all. And it's also not financially sustainable 60 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,320 to hit all of them. So what we do is we park it. We partner 61 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,520 with site selectors. In this case, his name is Mark Darcy, 62 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 and he hits all the shows that we can't get. And he goes to 63 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,240 represent Denton and takes our banner and takes our information 64 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,080 so we can have coverage across multiple areas at the same time. 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Some of those trade shows and contacts that we have through 66 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,080 him are listed here on the screen. And that's a sample of 67 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,600 our banner. I believe we have a new banner. 68 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,480 It's actually the banner that's on his website. 69 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Okay, and we have a new banner that he takes with him also that 70 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,720 features Peterbilt. That's right. 71 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,840 Maintenance and regular maintenance and updates to 72 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,920 DentonEDP.com. I'm sure you're all familiar with this website. 73 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,080 We want to keep the information up there as current as possible. 74 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,440 And we're working on an updated plan that will launch in 2021. 75 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Our social media platforms that we're active on posting by 76 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,040 monthly on LinkedIn, weekly on Facebook and weekly on Twitter. 77 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:59,440 We are funded in two ways. So we're funded publicly through 78 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,320 the contract with the city. And then we also raise our own 79 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,600 private funding. That funding is broken up into our professional 80 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,240 development and our target marketing, and then private is 81 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,360 just for target marketing. 82 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,400 Under the operations publicly funded budget. These are the way 83 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,360 we break out our budget planning and so professional development. 84 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Those are memberships in the TEDC and the IEDC for continuing 85 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,520 practices, best practices, and continuing certifications, 86 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,000 recertifications. We also participate in targeted marketing 87 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,320 groups, Team Texas, the Southern ED Council, the DFW, Martin 88 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Team and NACAR. 89 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,960 Erica, what does the two mean? 90 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,080 There's two trips each year for those. 91 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,600 We're two marketing opportunities. On the private side, 92 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,440 as you know, under our contract, we are required to raise a 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,960 minimum of $75,000 in private investor dollars. And we use 94 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,360 those dollars to maintain memberships in these groups and 95 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,800 to fund these trips. 96 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Any questions so far? 97 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,120 So with the $75,000, is that enough for these? And if you 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,880 raised more, would you do more in this department with your 99 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,840 private funding or would it go towards something else? 100 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:30,360 I'm not going to say that isn't enough. Of course, if we raise 101 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 more, we would absolutely do more. There's always more to be 102 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,760 done. We split it up. It's split under the requirements of the 103 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,280 contract. So we try to use those dollars on the private side also 104 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:43,840 as effectively as we can in other areas that will supplement 105 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:45,040 areas of the contract. 106 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,680 You might so we raised more than $75,000 this year or use some 107 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,000 of those funds to go into 108 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,440 action. Right. So we did raise more this year. And right now, 109 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Jessica from the city's ED office, and Marshall Culpepper 110 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,960 who works with Stoke, we wanted to pursue we know we talk a lot 111 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,240 about technology being something we want to pursue. So Jessica and 112 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Marshall are at a tech conference right now in San 113 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Diego that we use private funds to send them to to build those 114 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,560 relationships. So the answer is yes, we'll absolutely do more. 115 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,960 That's always the goal. 116 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Eric, I have a question. Yes, sir. It says 1819. Is that and 117 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,160 the one before it said 1920. So 118 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 I'm sorry, I don't want to go backwards. 119 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,320 I didn't know. 120 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,920 That's his marketing trips. You're right. So should that 121 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,880 other one by 1920 also? Okay, that's okay. I just wanted to 122 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,840 make sure. Thank you. This is the plans for next year. We want 123 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,040 to maintain what we're doing. And we're going to add a few 124 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,680 things as directed. Like I said, we are in the middle of searching 125 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,680 for a new development director. And we also have formed a we 126 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,320 meet with our private investors, check in with them and see where 127 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,560 they want to go. So we're looking at planning for new 128 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,000 opportunities. And under the consultants that are coming in, 129 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,440 we've asked them to tell us if the areas that the city and the 130 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,360 chamber have decided to target on are the areas we should be 131 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,440 target targeting. So we're going to get those answers first 132 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,680 before we make out any more specific plans and planning 133 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,840 trips. But we are looking to do the most effective marketing on 134 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Dennis. I did have one other question. Yes. 135 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:30,720 What do you find to be your most productive endeavor when it 136 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,960 comes to the marketing? Where do you get most of your bang? Or 137 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,420 is that is that a fair statement? 138 00:08:35,420 --> 00:08:39,840 I'm going to defer to Karen, I mean, I know a lot of it has, 139 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,120 there's so many, it's, it's a matter of timing, we're 140 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,920 maintaining relationships with site selectors. So a closed deal 141 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,360 is always going to be the most productive. We're going to point 142 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,480 to that's the most productive thing we've just done. But 143 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,880 Karen, if you want to talk about some specific opportunities. 144 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,560 And like Erica says, it's a relationship building process. 145 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:05,680 It's getting the name of it out there. Currently. Right one this 146 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:10,520 way. No, that way. There it is. Team Texas is on both our 147 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,440 operations and private side. That is where a delegation from 148 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,000 the state go out and advertise the state. You don't advertise 149 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,160 didn't even talk to someone about didn't, of course, but 150 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,960 you're advertising the entire state. And we try to do is two 151 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,280 of those every year. And then we last year we had enough funding 152 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,760 to do two and private two and operations. And the other kind 153 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:42,520 of off tangent there, sorry. The operation funds are normally 154 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:49,840 annual conferences, or specific conferences to a industry, where 155 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,720 sometimes the private side is more of a consultants, more that 156 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,320 relationship building, not necessarily all about the 157 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:06,840 particular targeted industries. And thus far, the probably the 158 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,360 best one that we've gone to are the team Texas ones, because 159 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,480 they have a variety of industries that they're looking 160 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,560 at for manufacturing, aerospace, industrial specs, and things of 161 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:19,080 that nature. 162 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Thank you. 163 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Like I add the site selectors, because they can represent so 164 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,480 many countries, and my country's so many companies, and types of 165 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,400 companies, instead of going just to an industrial conference, 166 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,520 site selectors are working for companies all over the United 167 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,840 States will have the relationships with those guys 168 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,080 who are in that business. A company that's looking at 169 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,680 moving their headquarters from California to Texas is going to 170 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,960 hire somebody to do that we're not going to have a relationship 171 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,560 or meet someone in a conference and they're going to call us 172 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:54,560 directly to the site selectors that are the ones that 173 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:58,800 that's what I was going to add, it's collecting as many already 174 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,680 established relationships as we can, is where we're going to get 175 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:02,720 the best bang for our buck. 176 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,720 I have one more question. 177 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Yes, sir. 178 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,160 So you say you have these sites selectors that we're using to 179 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,080 help send us business. How do we make it worth their while? How 180 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,840 do we make them happy? What do they get out of it? We're not 181 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,040 we're not using them. Companies hire them and we have to stay on 182 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,840 their radar. Just like we don't have site selectors. Companies 183 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,400 hire site selectors. And we need to make sure they know that in 184 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,320 Texas out there, we're raising our hand enough to where they 185 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,200 recognize. Absolutely. Okay. All right. 186 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,720 Thank you being responsive as RFPs and providing the data that 187 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,160 they're requesting as well. 188 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Absolutely. The more information that we can get them the quicker 189 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:55,000 the process. Thank you for educating product. And here's 190 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,560 where you did that. Are there any more questions? 191 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:01,880 So what's our plan for replacing this condition that we have to 192 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,200 fill now? What kind of person are we looking for? 193 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,320 We're looking for someone with a minimum of six years already 194 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,440 working in the industry looking for someone who is a certified 195 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,920 economic developer. That's not a certification that you can begin 196 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,240 to apply for until you've already been working in the 197 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,760 industry for years. We're looking for someone from a city 198 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,560 who is either coming from a metro or a city this size 199 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:27,160 already. There's lots of personality types that I would 200 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,560 love to put in there and get them the necessary certifications, 201 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,280 but we don't have that kind of time. So we're putting together 202 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,720 a search committee of people who understand the economic 203 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,840 development of this region. And I believe we've even invited a 204 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,000 former economic developer to sit on our search committee. We're 205 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,760 looking for someone who's already at the top of their game 206 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,680 and has those relationships that we talked about. We don't want 207 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:47,400 to waste any time. 208 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,160 So you know, typically when you you know, you have somebody 209 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,120 believe like this, you can reevaluate, you know, what he 210 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,360 what he or she brought to the table, what did they always 211 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,120 what was their strengths, what were their weaknesses and how 212 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:08,400 you going forward, find somebody that maybe has more, you know, 213 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,480 different strengths, less witnesses, all the above. So 214 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,600 once again, how do we how do we find this person? Do we send 215 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:23,160 out? Do we use social media? Do we use, you know, our people 216 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,040 that we know in the industry? How do we identify our 217 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,080 candidates, I guess. 218 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,680 So we already have the listing on the TTC and IEDC both have 219 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:36,240 job listings. So most economic developers will who are looking 220 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,160 for work in Texas will go to one of those two sites to look for 221 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,960 that. So they are already looking for us. We are actually 222 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,520 also talking to a group that head hunts these particular 223 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,480 candidates. So we're hoping to not use social media probably. 224 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,120 And again, as far as the metrics for evaluation, that's something 225 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,320 that the site selection or the selection committee is looking 226 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,840 on. Absolutely. 227 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Will this board be involved in that selection party anyway? Or 228 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:03,160 is that 229 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:13,440 no, that's a chamber internal. I don't mind confirmation, but Jill 230 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,640 and Jeff Jill is chair Jeff is incoming chair and myself. That's 231 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Jim Fikes. Jim is the former chair of this or member of this 232 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:30,600 committee, the Chamber Board, Tim, Francis, Francis, who is 233 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,200 with us cold storage. 234 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,360 He's actually a former economic development general plan 235 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,960 manager. 236 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:48,960 So I could be great to make that decision. 237 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Interested? 238 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,600 You know, there's room. 239 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,920 I'm not volunteering for it. But if you need somebody else to 240 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,400 sit in. 241 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,400 I think it's an important, important higher forces at this 242 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,640 point in time. I'm wondering, you know, a lot of our you know, 243 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,800 this consulting thing we're going through, obviously, we're 244 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,160 very early in that process. It would be nice to have kind of 245 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,360 completed that. And let them give us some feedback over what 246 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,440 that role needs to look like, if at all different than what it's 247 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,280 looked like in the past. But you have a better feel for that. 248 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,640 You hit the nail on the head. 249 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,600 We're in the middle of a relook at how we should do things city 250 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,760 and chamber wide. And we've got a job opening. And if those 251 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,360 results come back, you need a different set of skills or do 252 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,960 this a different way. So one of the things that we've talked 253 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,280 about is even pursuing somebody to do this on an interim basis. 254 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,280 I'll ask that. So if we if we wait, how much ground do we 255 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,160 lose? You know, if we wait, you know, three months or six months 256 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,400 to, you know, get some feedback from the study. 257 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:07,320 We're also obviously want to when we have final candidates 258 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,600 narrowed down, we'll want to meet with the city staff also 259 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,480 because that's somebody that they're going to work closely 260 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,960 with. We want to open all the lines of communication and make 261 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,760 sure that that's going to be a successful partnership. 262 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Thank you. 263 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Anyone else? 264 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Thank you. 265 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,000 And 266 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,600 on to our next 267 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,600 regular that we're just gonna talk about it. 268 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Our next item is ADP 19. That's your way to receive report whole 269 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,120 discussion to give staff direction regarding canceling 270 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,040 the regularly scheduled meetings for December 11 and 271 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,880 January 8 for the partnership board. 272 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Understanding is we don't have any items to speak of in the 273 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,200 next month. And then the eight just give them the way it falls 274 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,760 is right after the holidays. And doesn't mean that we couldn't 275 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:13,200 call especially called meeting if we had something pop up. Just 276 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:18,440 want to throw the idea out there to talk about a lot of times we 277 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,800 have trouble making quorum in those months because of the 278 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,720 holidays. And that's not specific to this committee. It's 279 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,480 with a multiple committees. 280 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:35,560 If we have a project that has a timeline of anybody wants more 281 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,200 meetings, let's go back. 282 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:46,080 We don't have anything pressing for the December 11 meeting. And 283 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,960 then the January eight is only a week after I think there's a 284 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,680 lot of folks on vacation a week before if something pops up, we 285 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,560 can certainly try to get everybody together and have a 286 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,600 meeting. So anybody want to make a motion regarding those two 287 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:06,160 days so move second, enthusiastically second cancel the 288 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,200 December and January meetings like I want to be heard. 289 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any 290 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:27,560 opposed? Motion carries. And our last item or item D is our 291 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:33,320 staff reports. And we've got our staff here. If anybody wants to 292 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,320 talk or anything you want to point out and make sure we're 293 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:43,320 aware of nothing really to point out a customary. Eric and I are 294 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,560 here to answer any questions. 295 00:18:48,760 --> 00:19:01,040 I think it's the city data. There's not anything present. It 296 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:19,520 just says ongoing. Some of them have a number. If it says 297 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,720 ongoing and there's no number, does that mean there's no 298 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,520 number? Well, for example, like if you take the site visits, 299 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,400 business retention and expansion visits, that's going to 300 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,360 continue. You have a target set for the year, but it ends at 301 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:32,880 the end of fiscal year and then it starts again for the next 302 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,280 fiscal year. My question is if it's blank, does that mean zero? 303 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Yes, if it's blank that we only have one month of reporting. So 304 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,360 yeah, okay. 305 00:19:46,360 --> 00:20:00,080 I have a opportunity maybe to I like to get the groups consensus 306 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,000 on for a pending item to talk about in the next couple of 307 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:14,760 months. The city has drastically changed the development fee 308 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,640 schedule for new projects. And there's been a lot of 309 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:25,400 conversation going back and forth on the schedule. And I 310 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:33,560 think that that is important enough subject to its economic 311 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,320 development subject to as far as anybody coming to town that 312 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 wants to do any kind of development, whether that's big, 313 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:46,800 large or small. So I would love for get your opinion on whether 314 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,000 that's something you'd like to take up as a group just to hear 315 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,480 the discussion on that. We it's been through city councils, but 316 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,600 there's meetings going back and forth between local folks and 317 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:05,800 city staff and the development office. But there's there's some 318 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,040 drastic changes and what it's going to cost to bring a new 319 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:15,480 project to do. Can you give us a taste? 320 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,120 Well, there's been a number of changes done at the state level. 321 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,880 It's not just specific to Denton that we're trying to incorporate 322 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,960 what the state is requiring. That's part of it. The other 323 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:36,440 part is the fees, the fees. So dramatic increases in fees that 324 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,960 I'm getting feedback is not comparable to other cities. 325 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Yeah, so that fee schedule has already been approved. Before 326 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:54,760 this fiscal year, we did a cost of service study in the 327 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,240 development services department. And there was a $3 million 328 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,680 subsidy from the taxpayers that was popping up those. And so we 329 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,400 tried to right size the fees a little bit. And so I mean, I 330 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,640 would be okay with having the support review those and look at 331 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,560 them. But as far as what we can do to change them, I'm not really 332 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,160 sure if that's what you wanted to discuss. 333 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,560 I think I would like to see this board hear about what the fees 334 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,760 are. And I would love to get a assuming this happened in the 335 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 course of the business. But what is if I'm bringing a new 336 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:44,360 multifamily project to Denton and my fees are X, is that the 337 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:47,560 same? What are the fees and the other compared to our competitor 338 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:54,200 cities? Are they twice as much less equal to because I don't 339 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:00,320 know that every city is is trying to cover their cost of 340 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,600 service and their planning and development department with 341 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:08,960 with fees. And also I would like to see if we could take a 342 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,800 project that had gone through our system last year under the 343 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,760 whole fee schedule and what the changes to that would be because 344 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:22,160 I'm hearing from folks within Denton and outside of Denton 345 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,720 that are wanting to do projects in town that are a gasp at what 346 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,360 the new fees are, are and compared to other cities that 347 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:35,040 they're working in. And it's the difference of not doing it. Or 348 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,400 maybe instead of doing a project that's all great, you're now 349 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:45,760 doing it with signing. Yeah, I think it would be useful for 350 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,800 anybody involved in economic development to know about the 351 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,640 process we went through to get to those fees and what they are 352 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,720 and like you said, some of the differences between last fiscal 353 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,680 year and the current fiscal year. And as Keely said, it was 354 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,440 the result of a cost of service study. And that there was a lot 355 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,640 of general fund money going into those departments that was not 356 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,120 being recovered through the fees and talking about the kind of 357 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,640 one for one stuff and engineers looking at plans, not being 358 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320 fully compensated, the city not being fully compensated for the 359 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,840 time the staff has been doing those things. I kind of liken it 360 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,640 to, you know, when I hear about somebody who says their electric 361 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,560 bill is higher, now that they've moved to Denton and they have to 362 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,240 be on DME. And I wish we just had like a pamphlet we could 363 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,920 handle. Here's the reason why your electric bill is higher. Our 364 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,640 rates are actually lower than where you moved from. You just 365 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,440 have an old air conditioner or drafty house or whatever it is. 366 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,800 I'd like to at least have this community kind of the economic 367 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,320 development community, knowledgeable and armed with good 368 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,480 information on how do we stack up to other cities? Are we are 369 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,360 we in fact higher? Is it higher depending on your project? Is it 370 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:57,920 higher depending on some of the the circumstances of your site 371 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,600 and the site conditions that are different? So that we kind of 372 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040 have apples to apples comparisons when a site selector 373 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,720 says, for instance, at some conference, you know, I'm having 374 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,520 trouble marketing debt. And right now, those fees are so high. 375 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080 And the people who are meeting with those folks know the 376 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,800 information, they can say, Yes, you're right, development fees 377 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,480 went up last year. But they're not the way you're thinking, or 378 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,120 actually, you need to go ahead and start talking to some of our 379 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:28,120 development folks, and planning folks, and getting the kind of 380 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,200 real deal on what your project is going to cost, as opposed to 381 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,920 what you think it's going to cost compared to last year. So I 382 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,920 think more information is always better. And this is exactly the 383 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,160 group of folks you should, you should have that information. 384 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,440 Yeah, I'm not saying do anything about it. I just like it'd be 385 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,840 nice as this group, but it's something that can and may 386 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960 affect economic development. And it's like, this would be a good 387 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,080 group to hear that information about it. 388 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,800 We can certainly talk with Scott McDonald and talk about bringing 389 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,320 something back to the board. We also have something that you all 390 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,520 may not be aware of. And we can email out afterwards. But we have 391 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,520 open counter. I think Christina's presented this to the 392 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760 board, but not all board members have seen it, depending on when 393 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,920 you came on. But you can go on and you set what your business 394 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,440 is. You can check zoning, you can estimate all your permits 395 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 and fees using that. So we could even use a business that we did 396 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,440 last year. And this year, internally, we can provide that 397 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,440 with for you as well, the same business, Christina can do that. 398 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,320 She's our staff liaison for open counter. 399 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,600 With the result being a straight difference between if you had 400 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,760 applied for it prior year versus this year, what the true 401 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,680 difference in the 402 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280 as long as open counter has been updated. I know they've been 403 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,240 working on it as soon as it's complete. It's not already 404 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,520 complete. We can check on that. 405 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,360 I would definitely be in favor. 406 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,200 Just good morning. We don't have a agenda posted for this. I 407 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,800 know the deliberation is really focused on can we bring this 408 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:07,200 back? I would be in favor of that presentation. And also add 409 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,760 in the impact view discussion, which has not come to council. 410 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:18,560 That I would request for that to be the roadway. Yes. 411 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:26,000 Mr. Chair, someone along the same lines is there. I just 412 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,040 noticed one of the the businesses that we had approved 413 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,080 supporting on the square is already closed. Do we ever do a 414 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,320 perform a comparison? 415 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,960 I'm gonna make a slight observation about that. So 416 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,920 that's the downtown economic development task force grants. 417 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,520 The key there is that those are for the buildings and not for 418 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,920 the businesses. So for that very reason, the money doesn't go to 419 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520 the business and stays with the building. So the upgrades to the 420 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,600 facade stay there no matter who comes back, they have to spend 421 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,280 the money and get reimbursed if they do what they want to say. 422 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480 That's the property owner, not the business, the proposed 423 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:11,920 business. 424 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,320 It's the property owner. In that case, in theory, having done 425 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,720 those upgrades to that building should help them get somebody 426 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,160 else in there too. Thank you. 427 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,080 Good point. That's a good observation. That's specifically 428 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,520 why it's building not on business. 429 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:40,960 So we're, I think we agreed to add that to the one of our 430 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,000 agenda items in the coming months after December, January. 431 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,720 Yes, we'll definitely look into it. 432 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,840 Any other discussion? I would like to take this opportunity to 433 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,800 invite all of you to get tickets for our December quarterly 434 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,720 luncheon. When you mentioned other communities, the CFO of 435 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,600 the Dallas Cowboys will be our featured speaker. And he's going 436 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,000 to talk about why organizations like his choose the communities 437 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,560 that they did. 438 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640 Who's that? 439 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400 I can't remember his name right now. I knew you would ask me. 440 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,520 My name is Jones. 441 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,880 It's not Jones. 442 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Agent of Jones. 443 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Cool. That's CPA, buddy. When is that? 444 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,200 It is December 12. 445 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:35,120 Any other observations for the good of the order? 446 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,000 Call the meeting adjourned. Thank you for being here today.