1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,080 I'm stepping in to run the meeting. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:12,860 We have a quorum, and we will get started at 10 o'clock. 3 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:14,760 First thing on the agenda is citizen comments. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Do we have any citizen comments? 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,200 We do not have any citizen comments. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,200 So with that, we will move on to item 2 for individual consideration. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:30,200 There will be 2A, MC26006, consider approval of the minutes from February 25th, 2026. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,200 The chair will entertain a motion. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,360 I looked over them in there, as I recall, so I make a motion that they be approved as 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,360 submitted. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,360 I second it. 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,360 All right. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:45,600 So we have a motion for approval from Councilor Holland and a second from Commissioner Ziegel. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,600 All in favor say aye. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Aye. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,600 Chair is also an aye. 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Council passes 4-0. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,360 All right. 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:04,040 With that, we will move on to item 2B, MC26007, receive a report, hold discussion regarding 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,480 the Mobility Plan Boot Camp, Part 4, to introduce and share the information of different elements 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,120 of the Mobility Plan. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,800 With that, I will turn it over to Dr. Butt. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Good morning, Chair and committee members, Farhan Butt, Deputy Director, Transportation 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Services Division. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:28,400 I'm here to present the last part of the Mobility Plan Boot Camp series of presentations. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:37,320 This presentation would cover the most significant part of the Mobility Plan and even Comprehensive 27 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:42,740 Plan process, which is stakeholder engagement and public engagement process. 28 00:01:42,740 --> 00:01:49,960 This is the Part 4 and then with this presentation, we will complete the Boot Camp presentation 29 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,760 series. 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:02:00,240 So we start with, again, we have to link this Mobility Plan stakeholder engagement process 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:07,700 to Comprehensive Plan because these two planning documents are interlinked and they rely on 32 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:13,080 each other, Comprehensive Plan informs the Mobility Plan and Mobility Plan then based 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:23,480 on that information and then its own processes, it just moves on on focused areas. 34 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Comprehensive Plan has four goals when it comes to mobility component and these goals, 35 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,560 when it comes to public engagement process, these goals emphasize safe and efficient mobility 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:44,480 with goal M1 and where it encourages or it emphasizes that even for these key items like 37 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:52,640 Vision Zero Plan, refining strategy and travel demand management should be looked at from 38 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,040 the public engagement standpoint. 39 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:04,480 Goal M2, which is Enhanced Economy, which is linked to Enhanced Economy and then it talks 40 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,320 about community balance when it comes to public engagement process and safety outreach. 41 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:18,000 So when it comes to community balance, for instance, it focuses on how the transportation 42 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:24,400 and mobility decisions have to be interlinked to land use policy and then how they should 43 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:32,480 be addressed in preferences and choices in alignment with public preferences and choices. 44 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:40,000 And the same is safety outreach element in goal M2 where it says that safety, any safety 45 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:48,560 enhancements and priorities should be in line with the preferences and of the public engagement 46 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,560 process. 47 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,860 Goal M3, which is Non-Motorized Mobility, which is essentially, which covers, which 48 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:59,280 completes the mobility scape for any city. 49 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:06,760 For instance, the common understanding would be that significant part of city's mobility 50 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,420 would be auto trips. 51 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:16,320 But contrary to that, the pedestrian and bicycle trips and all other modes that are there on 52 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,760 the road should be treated as a mode. 53 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,920 That's what Comprehensive Plan emphasizes through this goal and it says that public engagement 54 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:30,320 should be priority when it comes to dissing and making process, education and outreach 55 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:37,400 should be there to bring awareness on how these, how certain aspects of enforcement, 56 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,240 for example, or compliance with the signages is important. 57 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:49,640 And wayfinding strategy is another aspect which the goal covers and emphasizes on, which 58 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:57,480 essentially means that the striping, marking, signages, and all other aspects that talk 59 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:05,620 about informing public on possible routes and possible first mile and last mile connectivity 60 00:05:05,620 --> 00:05:07,360 should be there. 61 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,640 Public sector collaboration is also a component of that and funding strategies is, of course, 62 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,800 that it's, you know, most of these funds, most of these projects would require funding 63 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,480 and they are usually external or internal, but they should be looked at. 64 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Goal M4 is linked to public transit emphasis, which looks at public input on development 65 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:36,780 and where it emphasizes that whenever a new development is coming, go to public and go 66 00:05:36,780 --> 00:05:41,640 through this public engagement process and then get the public buy-in. 67 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:47,800 And special events is also part of that and community design incentives is also part of 68 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,840 that public engagement strategy according to comprehensive plan goals. 69 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:58,760 And regional advocacy and transit studies are also a component of this. 70 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Before you advance, are these flat goals? 71 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:08,640 I mean, there's no prioritization ranking for goals one through four. 72 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,640 It's a flat hierarchy? 73 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:16,200 They are listed as such and then they -- it is context sensitive always. 74 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,520 So it depends on what kind of project we are looking at and what development it is. 75 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,700 And with that, the priorities would change. 76 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:28,400 For example, in some projects, we'll have pedestrian safety as a priority. 77 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,160 In other projects, we would have public/private partnerships as a priority. 78 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,160 So I think it depends what project it is. 79 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,160 It's context-sensitive. 80 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Thank you. 81 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:48,640 So the next step, when we -- after covering how comprehensive plan focuses on public engagement 82 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,200 process and different avenues of it, then mobility plan is informed by that process. 83 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:00,240 And as a matter of fact, the three key components in developing mobility plan rely on -- the 84 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,680 first one is stakeholder engagement. 85 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,840 And the second is technical analysis and third is implementation. 86 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:13,540 So stakeholder engagement is where continuous engagement process is emphasized where in, 87 00:07:13,540 --> 00:07:17,560 for instance, in the mobility plan development process, it occurred throughout the mobility 88 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,520 plan development process. 89 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:25,220 Then stakeholders involved included residents, city staff, and technical stakeholders including 90 00:07:25,220 --> 00:07:29,760 TxDOT, DCTA, Denton ISD, and Denton County. 91 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:36,200 And of course, public residents and business owners are part of that as well. 92 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,560 And then public meetings, these numbers are snapshot in time. 93 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,880 They are relative to that process that was followed previously for mobility plan development, 94 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,480 but of course, they may change. 95 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,560 But I think the key information here is that we have public meetings for this planning 96 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,280 document, development of this important planning document for the city, and we have city council 97 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,820 and planning, zoning, work sessions. 98 00:07:59,820 --> 00:08:06,280 We have bicycle focus group meetings, city staff meetings, internal meetings, and then 99 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,140 multiple technical committee meetings. 100 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:14,640 And not to talk about these stakeholders, getting buy-in from them is also a key aspect 101 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,860 of mobility plan development. 102 00:08:17,860 --> 00:08:24,520 As an example, for comprehensive plan development, the duration was around August 13 to October 103 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,520 11, 2019. 104 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,440 There were 380 responses on surveys, which is another strategy for public engagement 105 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,440 process. 106 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,280 And over 380 were collected, and this is just for comprehensive plan. 107 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,240 And so for each of these strategic planning documents, when we are developing those or 108 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:51,480 updating those, public feedback is a key input to drive any strategies that we are talking 109 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,760 about in these planning documents. 110 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:03,560 So as an example, Denton mobility plan goals, where they are focused on public engagement, 111 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:08,880 we can share an example of providing comfortable -- for goal 8 and 9, we can give an example 112 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,680 of providing comfortable and low-stress opportunities to walk and bike, for example. 113 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:18,760 So in this case, when the mobility plan is highlighting that we have to provide comfortable 114 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:25,000 and low-stress opportunities to walk and bike, our first -- as city staff, our first objective 115 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:32,120 would be to go to the users or road users who are bikers or pedestrians and get the 116 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,680 feedback from them. 117 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:40,320 And so the next step, of course, is that we get public input on bicycle plan, for example, 118 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,760 and we will look at current condition analysis. 119 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,680 We are exploring existing conditions of the bicycle network. 120 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:55,000 We also would look at public feedback on preferred bicycle routes and facilities. 121 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,920 That is in line with mobility plan development process or update process. 122 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,520 And then future improvements will also be looked at that will align with mobility plan 123 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,680 goals guided by public input and then designed to reflect community priorities. 124 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:17,840 So this is one planning document, but we can almost replicate that for any major study 125 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,840 that we go. 126 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:26,800 For instance, if we are doing prioritization of bike or pedestrian network, if we are prioritizing 127 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,520 these project, once we have a prioritized list based on staff's technical analysis, 128 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,920 we will take those prioritized projects or larger list of projects to public and have 129 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,120 the public engagement process and we'll just say that these are the prioritized projects, 130 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,480 what's the feedback, and then that feedback will be incorporated into our prioritization 131 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,040 process and we'll be able to reshuffle the projects. 132 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Of course, constructability and cost is another factor, but public feedback is also one of 133 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,720 the top priorities, not only for mobility plan or planning documents, but for all of 134 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,440 our projects. 135 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,680 So that's an important piece. 136 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:10,920 Without that feedback, the projects would not move forward. 137 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:17,260 Some example guidelines for public engagement in transportation planning, we tried to, staff 138 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:23,920 tried to cover that from all three resolutions or jurisdictions standpoint. 139 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,840 We have federal level resources available where we have public involvement and outreach 140 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:37,320 in transportation planning guidelines published in 2025 by FDA, which is Federal Transit Administration, 141 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,360 and then promising practices for meaningful public involvement. 142 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:47,000 It is a US DOT document, which is published in 2022. 143 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:53,320 These are hyperlinks on the slides, and these documents could be accessed by just clicking 144 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,320 on them. 145 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:04,000 The same is with TxDOT, staff has resources, or all jurisdictions within the TxDOT area, 146 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,400 they have access to this document, which is Strategic Public Engagement Guidance by TxDOT, 147 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:18,360 and they are very useful not only for TxDOT projects, but also for city's staff for technical 148 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,320 guidance on some of the processes that we engage in. 149 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Local level, we have public participation plan by NCTCOG, which is another major body 150 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:33,120 for DFW, Public Engagement Processes, and that was updated in 2025. 151 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,520 In general, the process hinges on these key factors, demographics, which means we have 152 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:46,080 to be aware of where the jobs are, where the housing and where the population is located, 153 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,560 and where the significant projects are, or in terms of significant projects, where the 154 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:52,960 transportation investments are. 155 00:12:52,960 --> 00:13:00,840 And then based on that, we reach out to public and then get their feedback. 156 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Some other aspects are durable community relationships, community needs. 157 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:11,440 Through these public engagement processes, we are not so focused on the project only, 158 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,040 but many times, in many cases, this feedback that we get from public highlights many other 159 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,040 aspects. 160 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:25,040 For example, road safety, their concerns on critical intersections in the areas, and more. 161 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,280 In many public engagement that staff has been involved, we always get a lot of other feedback 162 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,120 that public feels strongly about or they have concerns about, and then we note them down 163 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,400 and bring them to analyze for other projects that we are working on. 164 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:49,880 Technology is an important aspect where staff would look at different avenues, which staff 165 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,440 will cover in the later slide. 166 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Staff do not rely on one avenue where we just go to reach out to public, but we have many 167 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:08,680 methods, including web-based methods, crowdsourcing, and then using postal mail or mail cards and 168 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:14,200 many other avenues that we utilize to inform public of any engagement opportunities or 169 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,640 any major projects. 170 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:25,400 These projects, we share the community's impact with not only internally, but with the stakeholders 171 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,840 as well. 172 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,640 This is just an example of public engagement process that city goes through and where we 173 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:45,200 not only inform public of notice of public hearing, we have advertisements, we have postcards, 174 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:53,200 and many other avenues, and as I mentioned, crowdsourcing is one of them as well. 175 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:58,360 This is another example of technology where we have development notifications, we have 176 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:04,480 the community's website, and we have anybody from the community or stakeholders could access 177 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:11,680 this website and sign in, register with the website, and ask about any project, and then 178 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,700 they'll be sent notifications on those projects whenever the new information is updated or 179 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:18,400 any updates are available. 180 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:27,480 This is another example of technology-based information to public where we, as an example, 181 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:38,000 we have Denton Vision Zero action plan, link or page for Let's Discuss Denton website, 182 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,440 and entire information about the project, updates, public engagement opportunities, 183 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,720 contact persons, point of contacts, everything is listed in there. 184 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:56,240 If the website does not answer these questions, the staff could be reached via email and phone 185 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:03,320 numbers are provided, so they can be reached by the public or any stakeholder for any additional 186 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,120 questions. 187 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:12,920 So this process combines accessibility, transparency, and multiple engagement options, ensuring 188 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,960 inclusive and responsive community involvement process. 189 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,860 This essentially means that we are not just taking one avenue, we have multiple avenues 190 00:16:20,860 --> 00:16:26,200 for public to engage in these processes. 191 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Our key takeaways from this boot camp are that early and ongoing stakeholder engagement 192 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:42,280 is extremely important so that we don't get this feedback from residents and the community 193 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,840 in the middle of the project, but early on, so that if there are any critical changes 194 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:54,760 needed, we could do those without spending a lot of resources on the previous plan, whatever 195 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,200 it was decided, without public engagement. 196 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:03,240 So I think our emphasis is that we need to get the public feedback right on when we are 197 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,520 in the early stage of the project so that we take it as an input, critical input. 198 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:15,880 Alignment with the community is another aspect, community priorities is another aspect where 199 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:24,920 staff ensures that community's preferences, of course, given priority, but we have to 200 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:30,000 tread it very carefully because in many cases there is a safety risk, and so we have to 201 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,960 weigh in and we have to inform public that yes, even though there is a desire to go into 202 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:42,640 a certain avenue, but from design standards and from safety requirements, we have to opt 203 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,640 for this option. 204 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,240 So I think that's a very tricky part where staff has to be very careful in making sure 205 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,520 that we are not compromising on safety and critical pieces of the project. 206 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:59,160 At the same time, we have to balance community needs by getting their feedback as well. 207 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,720 So this is dealt with when we are designing projects, especially, and we are covering 208 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,320 those aspects carefully. 209 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:12,240 Strong integration of public input into bicycle pedestrian transit is an important element. 210 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:20,440 It is where this public engagement process serves for us as our eyes because we get feedback 211 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:26,720 directly by the users, and they inform us where the pain points are, where the updates 212 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:33,600 have to be made, and so that's very critical, and for almost all of our projects, that is 213 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,600 the case. 214 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,040 Be it short-term implementation, we reach out to public, we have public engagement process. 215 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:51,300 As a process, we have another step now where we try to get community feedback and community 216 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:56,960 consensus on a certain implementation that we are doing before we go and invest dollars 217 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,960 on that. 218 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,280 Collaboration is with other agencies. 219 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:06,100 In many cases, TaxDOT in particular, we have Andenton County and DCTA. 220 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:10,400 These are the three key stakeholders where we have to continuously collaborate with them. 221 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Any project that we launch, we have to collaborate. 222 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,240 In particular, if the intersection is -- we are working on intersection that is where 223 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,360 TaxDOT-maintained facility is involved or Denton County-maintained facility is involved, 224 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:25,160 we cannot just make the calls unilaterally. 225 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:31,240 We, almost in all cases, will have to bring them on board and get their feedback, and 226 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,640 in addition to public engagement process. 227 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,520 And quality and equity is always the case. 228 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,840 We have to look for zero-car households. 229 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,160 We have to look for first and last mile connectivity. 230 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:51,400 We have to cover -- as staff, we have to look for areas that federal guidelines and state 231 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,720 guidelines ask us to be careful of. 232 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:02,320 Even in NCTCOG has guidelines that we have to include in our decision-making process. 233 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:08,120 And then there is a long-term project support is there as well, and for implementation success, 234 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:11,600 if there is a project that is a long-term project, it's a continuous process. 235 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:18,080 We go reach out to public for each phase, and during the each phase, and then as I stated 236 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:27,560 earlier, we have technology avenues where public can reach out to staff, project managers 237 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:34,440 by registering through the development websites, or discuss Denton page, or Denton 311. 238 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:41,640 Many avenues are there where public could reach out, and we can provide the feedback. 239 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,160 Excellent, thank you. 240 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Questions for Dr. Butt? 241 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,160 Well it will come as no surprise that I have some questions. 242 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:04,880 So I'm not sure which slide this was, but one of the things that you were deciding on 243 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:12,560 in the mobility plan, let's see if I can find it, was this idea that the destination 244 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:21,560 pathing, I think it was maybe slide four or five, but when you're trying -- when you're 245 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:29,680 designing and addressing the network that we have now, how do we define -- I mean, how 246 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,600 do we define the nodes that we're trying to design the network around? 247 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,840 I mean, obviously some of them are obvious, like, okay, we have certain arterials, and 248 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:44,720 we could take it down to an individual house or an individual business, but I know you 249 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:52,040 don't have the time or the resources to design the network at -- probably at that level. 250 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,080 How -- in the engagement process, how are you defining the priorities? 251 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:03,760 And I'll give you some context for the nodes, rather, and the context for this question 252 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:10,120 is, is it based on community -- and this is all about engagement, is it based on community 253 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:15,720 feedback, or is it based on utilization tracking? 254 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,160 Because those are -- they can be out of sync. 255 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,440 Yeah, so I'm assuming that this is for bite-fed context. 256 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,080 For -- yes, in particular, but for mobility in general. 257 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:34,000 Yeah, so in this case, we have design, and that design would essentially be guided by 258 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000 the standards. 259 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,780 So that is one -- on one side of the equation. 260 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:43,160 Then another side of equation is that we -- the data that we have on the nodes, especially 261 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,300 I'm talking about how we decide about the nodes. 262 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:51,360 So the data will tell us that, okay, this project is transit-heavy or public transportation-heavy, 263 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:54,820 or this project is for autos. 264 00:22:54,820 --> 00:22:59,800 If it is a signal optimization process or intersection that we are addressing, then 265 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:06,600 intersection design would include features that would be addressing all of those components. 266 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,080 How we decide that node? 267 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,600 The data tells us that the utility -- for example, in case of intersection, the data 268 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,840 will tell us that level of service is too bad and there are too many users here during 269 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,840 the peak. 270 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800 So that is a defining metric for us. 271 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:27,120 But then the public process, in addition, will tell us that what's the priority here? 272 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:38,360 Public wants a fully-operated signal, or they are -- they don't want it, or they want pedestrian 273 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:43,500 signal, or what the priority is, or they don't want to touch it. 274 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:44,500 So that's one example. 275 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:48,600 The other example is, let's say the project is bike-pad-oriented. 276 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,300 Then how we decide the node is important? 277 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:59,580 The data will tell us that how many Go Zone riders, how many bus riders or bus passengers 278 00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:06,400 are in this area, and then we'll make the call that where they're coming from, likely 279 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,720 where the neighborhoods are, and do we have first and last mile covered, and then we go 280 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960 to public for feedback. 281 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:24,960 So that design of that facility, be it a sidewalk or a multi-use path, including sidewalk and 282 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:31,960 bike lane, the design will cover the standards and city's requirements, code requirements, 283 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,840 but then we'll go to public to ask questions that, what's not working? 284 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,740 Help us figure that out. 285 00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:43,740 And then that feedback would go and amend some of the design strategies. 286 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:50,320 For instance, if we were initially thinking that there will be a multi-use path with sidewalk 287 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,420 and bike lane. 288 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:58,820 If public feedback process tells us that, no, we want on-street bike lane with buffer, 289 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:03,560 so that will be given consideration, but of course, if the right of way is not there, 290 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:10,180 if there are challenges, then staff will have to choose one of the two. 291 00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:14,560 So this is the process, data tells us a lot of things, but then based on the data, we 292 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,040 will make a call on what kind of design would be there, and then we have public feedback 293 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,040 as well. 294 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,680 And then of course, it is taken to mobility committee and several other stakeholders. 295 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,900 No, I appreciate that. 296 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:34,520 I think I just encourage us to make sure that sometimes we always have to follow, I mean, 297 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,800 the whole point of having this oversight board is trying to give community feedback, and 298 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,480 that's why we have citizens on the board. 299 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,920 But also sometimes, to your point about the data, sometimes we utilize networks in ways 300 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:57,300 that we don't think we do, and we ask as citizens for you to engage in particular design standards 301 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:01,240 that don't match our use patterns because we don't understand our own use patterns, 302 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,440 and I'm not trying to be arrogant on that. 303 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,460 That's where your comment about the data is really critical. 304 00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:12,340 But then making sure the public understands, okay, we can do that, but this is the way 305 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:14,880 you are actually doing it. 306 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,440 You're not doing it the way you think you're doing it, but we'll do it the way you want, 307 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,240 but just be aware that it's not matching. 308 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,240 That sort of comment. 309 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:31,500 And then I guess my other question is, and often you have a fair bit of marketing communication 310 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:38,000 issues that are outside of your transportation main priorities. 311 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,200 And across all the departments in the city, there's this idea of how do we make the public 312 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,960 aware of, get their feedback and make them aware. 313 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:54,320 And so I guess the following on from that, again, what sort of passive feedback are you 314 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:07,660 using, more tracking, but then also what new engagement modalities are you employing? 315 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:10,960 Because it used to be like everything was just pushed out to the newspaper, but now 316 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,400 nobody reads newspapers anymore below a certain age. 317 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:23,820 And so what new ideas are you using to reach the public as the engagement types change 318 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:26,400 with the generations is what I'm asking. 319 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,400 Yes. 320 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,080 So in this case, one aspect is that community consensus. 321 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:39,240 So that is one of the, I think based on our experiences with public engagement processes, 322 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:48,480 we realized that before we make any significant progress on a project, be it a smaller project, 323 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,720 installing a sign, always top sign or a larger one, we need to have community consensus. 324 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,720 So what staff has been doing most recently, we have developed surveys, these surveys are 325 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:09,880 available online and as well via internet and manually on paper as well. 326 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,840 But we do, we shared those surveys with the community representatives, HOA representatives 327 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,400 or community representatives. 328 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,280 And then we request them, in person we go meet with them and we request that, could 329 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,080 you get a consensus on this intervention that we are trying to make here or improvement? 330 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,920 In many cases, that request would come from public or residents that we want stop sign, 331 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:38,400 but we want to have consensus from the community because our experience is that in many cases, 332 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,420 that intervention or that improvement would be requested by three, four community members. 333 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:47,960 But when we go to larger public engagement session with them, we find out that the community 334 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,960 does not want it. 335 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,740 So I think that is one step that we are doing. 336 00:28:51,740 --> 00:29:00,640 And as I stated in my previous slides, we have development notifications, we have City 337 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:07,320 of Denton public engagement process, we are let's discuss Denton, this is internet based. 338 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,760 And then apart from that, we have Denton 311. 339 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,680 So these are the three avenues which are available. 340 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:20,240 Denton 311 is the most effective because it ties to timeline. 341 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,840 It is dependent on, as staff, we have to respond to that within a certain timeframe. 342 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,240 And then also, it is followed by CMO and our department leadership as well, personally, 343 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,520 that what happened to this request that came. 344 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,040 So I think this is how tightly it is followed. 345 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:43,920 And then for division leadership, that division leadership follows on that as well for Denton 346 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,920 311. 347 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,320 For let's discuss Denton, we have provided complete information on major projects, which 348 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,840 means that the point of contacts, not only the information that we are sharing during 349 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,640 the projects, for example, Vision Zero, what surveys were done, what are the outcomes, 350 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,700 what are the high injury network, all of those details are there for public. 351 00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:06,520 And then public process was there as well. 352 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,400 But then on top of that, the project manager's contact information is there and division 353 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,560 leads contact information is there as well. 354 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,240 No, those are all good in terms of receiving feedback. 355 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,240 My last comment will simply be sort of playing off of that. 356 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,680 And one of the things that we've seen, and it's not so much in your division, but it 357 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:33,440 overlaps your division, is that as we've done utility and street construction, there's a 358 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:41,080 thirst for more of a push awareness of when we're making transitory changes. 359 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,240 Oh, this street is offline at this time. 360 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,560 This storm drain is offline at this time. 361 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,880 And people, as we do these mobility changes, so I'm going to encourage you to explore things. 362 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:57,040 I don't want to say like the alert Denton where we get the phone notifications. 363 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:03,640 But in that concept where there's a push, hey, there's a change in your neighborhood 364 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,640 that's coming. 365 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,480 So to get in front of, our brains are very busy and people need to be aware. 366 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:17,760 And you will probably make yourself have less complaints if people are aware that something 367 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,920 you're doing is active. 368 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,280 And that may be more of a capital projects or a marketing communication than your division. 369 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,880 But it's something to consider how to push things out. 370 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,720 We are working on work zone data exchange. 371 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,760 So that is, we applied transportation services applied for funding from NCTCOG and we received 372 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,120 around $300,000 for this project. 373 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:47,920 And we are developing a, I won't call it cutting edge tool, but it will be a very good tool 374 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,680 which will provide opportunity for our project managers, city's project managers from different 375 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,240 departments to provide project updates. 376 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Be it work zones, be it long-term projects, and those would be instant. 377 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:09,360 And then these updates will be connected to Texas 511 data exchange, which essentially 378 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:20,360 means is that all the dashboards, GPS or handheld phones or web-based DCN tools, they will be 379 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:27,640 updated instantly and all of them will be reflecting any delays or any work zones on 380 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,900 Denton streets. 381 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:31,400 This is a three years long project. 382 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560 Transportation services is leading that project. 383 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,920 This will be completely automated in alignment with Tech Start and NCTCOG. 384 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,120 And we anticipate that this will be delivered within two and a half years. 385 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Well, that sounds very exciting. 386 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Charlie, did I see you? 387 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,160 You wanted to make a comment? 388 00:32:49,160 --> 00:33:01,620 I was just going to say, I was going to mention the 311 and we can see if there's a way to 389 00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:06,400 tie it back to more of the project information and the CIP maps that we have. 390 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:12,400 Because that way when a road user gets an alert that there's construction happening, 391 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,640 maybe there's a way to push them back to what is that construction. 392 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,860 So you'll be notified via Waze or Google Maps when you're driving. 393 00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:26,560 Your car will say, hey, there's a right lane closed up here, shift to the left. 394 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,560 You know it's coming. 395 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,320 It won't be a surprise. 396 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,840 And then maybe a way to route people back to what's going on here. 397 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,680 That would be a good way to do it. 398 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:42,400 No, those all sound really good and I appreciate the sort of more active push nature of that. 399 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,240 I think that'll leave you with a lot of concerns. 400 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,360 Go ahead. 401 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:59,780 Your stop sign example, how do you weigh, let me think, your professional opinion that 402 00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:10,380 an intersection needs a stop sign against the citizens, I'm struggling to phrase this. 403 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:12,700 You think there needs to be a stop sign there. 404 00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:18,320 The citizen says we don't want a stop sign there versus we'd like to have a stop sign 405 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,320 here. 406 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,880 You don't think we need a stop sign here. 407 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000 We had that example at Sundown Ranch type thing. 408 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,640 So stop sign is, first stop sign is not a speed regulatory mechanism. 409 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,640 I understand. 410 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,640 It is not. 411 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,720 It is a decision choice mechanism where we provide road users through stop sign a decision 412 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:40,140 choice that who comes first and who leaves later. 413 00:34:40,140 --> 00:34:41,840 So that's the first thing. 414 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:50,840 Stop signs are heavily guided by safety and what's safer for the community and then another 415 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:57,440 aspect is that our audit process tells us that if this will be happening. 416 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:04,880 In this case of Sundown, which you highlighted, we observed that the observation was that 417 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:15,720 the stop signs were already in place and the difficulty in that area was compliance. 418 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:22,320 So if a road user is not complying to stop sign at 11 p.m., putting another stop sign, 419 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,120 that road user will still not comply. 420 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,240 So I think that's a behavior issue. 421 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:27,240 That's what we found. 422 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:32,280 So in many cases, we are looking at audit report, our audit report and trying to figure 423 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,800 out what needs to happen, but it is not guided by speed. 424 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,120 Speed is not the regulatory mechanism. 425 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,400 I guess my real question is how much weight is given to the request, and I'm just using 426 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,180 a stop sign as an example. 427 00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:55,520 How much weight is given to the neighborhood request for a stop sign versus your professional 428 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,680 opinion for the need of a stop sign? 429 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,100 So safety is first. 430 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:08,880 So that one fatality that is bound to happen, as city staff, we are trying to prevent that. 431 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:16,080 And so when staff observe that this is waiting to happen any moment, and that's where that 432 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400 will trigger and that will be a priority. 433 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:29,480 In other cases, if it is a residential community with low impacts, then we may consider, we 434 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,560 may look into the process and say if we can avoid it. 435 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,120 But in other locations where the safety is a top priority, we would just, even though 436 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:43,100 the community's feedback is different, we will have to act on the standards and guidelines 437 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,480 based on the knowledge that we have. 438 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,480 Okay. 439 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,080 You mentioned 311. 440 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680 And this is just a general question about 311. 441 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,480 Walk me through the process. 442 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,480 The citizen calls 311. 443 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,760 How quickly does your department, for example, respond? 444 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,080 This came up at a forum earlier, I guess, this week. 445 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,200 How quickly does something happen when somebody calls 311? 446 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:18,200 Typically, when the 311 receives a phone call, they would just decide that which department 447 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,680 is going to. 448 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,000 Most likely, if it comes to transportation services, we have a dedicated staff that looks 449 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:31,280 at Denton 311 inquiries, and then that staff would distribute the inquiry to appropriate 450 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,280 staff. 451 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,960 For example, if it is a traffic operations related inquiry, it will go towards to a staff 452 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,840 that is SME for traffic operations. 453 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,040 If it is ADA, then it goes to ADA. 454 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,600 Immediately, staff would respond to that. 455 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:52,120 That first person, staff dedicated to Denton 311, he will respond or she will respond that 456 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,080 we have received your inquiry, and we will respond to it within this timeline, within 457 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,920 24 hours. 458 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,760 Then the dedicated staff for ADA or traffic operations will look into the inquiry, and 459 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:10,000 this will be forwarded to city management and departmental leadership that we are auditing 460 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,560 this location, and we will be coming with our feedback within, typically, it is two 461 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:21,280 weeks timeframe, within two weeks, because we have already got tasks in schedule. 462 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,360 So we have to make sure that those tasks are not out of line. 463 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:30,000 Then after two weeks, we not only provide the audit findings, but also any implementation 464 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,840 timeline, and then that is published in the Friday report. 465 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,920 If I missed anything, Charlie, you can film. 466 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,320 Now, I think, generally, you will get a response within two business days, but like Farhan 467 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,480 said, sometimes they go and sit in these audits to watch traffic for a couple hours, so they 468 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,120 got to schedule all that. 469 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,400 That is why, if we receive a request, we will say, yeah, we will start working on a schedule 470 00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:00,040 a day to go out, review those intersections, is a stop sign warranted or not, and then 471 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,960 that will be another point, a decision point, and then if there is implementation, then 472 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,720 whatever that implementation time is. 473 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:06,720 Okay. 474 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,720 Thank you. 475 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,160 It is a very well structured process. 476 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,160 Thank you. 477 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,160 Commissioner Penn. 478 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,160 Hey there. 479 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,440 So, just really quick, I wanted to let you know a couple of technical issues with signing 480 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,960 up for the notifications. 481 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:29,440 I use the Denton 311 app regularly, however, it always has me logged out, and so every 482 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:39,760 time I want to make something aware, if I want to receive any updates about that, I 483 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,760 am not logged in, and so it is quite cumbersome, and I have tried reporting that, I don't really 484 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,040 know exactly where, and then I also want to let you know on slide number 10, I think, 485 00:39:50,040 --> 00:40:01,560 where you can sign up for the project notifications that this survey with ArcGIS is not completing 486 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,680 the sign up for me, the submission, it could just be that I am, maybe I am on this Wi-Fi, 487 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,160 so might just need to look into that, and one of the things I was curious about as far 488 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:19,240 as when we are getting feedback from neighborhoods if something potentially is going in, I am 489 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:30,600 curious how staff might, is there a goal to have a representation of the demographics 490 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:40,000 of a certain area, and if there is a goal for that, how is the staff ensuring that we 491 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,520 are able to hear from a wide variety, for example, I know that in our neighborhood staff 492 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:53,320 was able to present a stop sign type issue, our neighborhood actually only recently has 493 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,160 even a neighborhood monthly meeting, so up until a year ago or two years ago that didn't 494 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:05,040 even exist, the folks that attend the meetings are of an older demographic, I am the youngest 495 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:11,760 by probably a couple decades, so I know for a fact our neighborhood has a, that meeting 496 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:20,400 is not at all representative of the variety, just ages alone, let alone different mobility 497 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:26,640 options, pretty much everyone who attends that meeting is only a car user and does not 498 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,840 bike or walk or use public transportation, so I am curious, I don't want to take up 499 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,920 too much time, but if we have goals for getting a wider variety that actually represents the 500 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:45,320 demographics of a specific area, and if the means to which we are getting the surveys 501 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,400 or the feedback is that meeting that goal? 502 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:57,400 Staff tries to address this issue as much as possible within our limits, for instance 503 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:03,360 as we have been proactively informing bike coalition as well for many bike path projects, 504 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:10,280 we have been, so when it comes to neighborhood, we encourage that, I think it's diverse set 505 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:18,720 of representation, and in many cases it is important because in our observation when 506 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:23,680 we try to implement a project, the entire neighborhood is not on board, it has to be 507 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,720 done otherwise it becomes a challenge because later on once we install, we don't want to 508 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:35,600 get complaints that we did not want it, so that is the aspect that we are trying to address. 509 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:42,640 It's a challenge, yes, to have full representation, we'll be happy to assist if there is any, 510 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,800 staff is happy to assist if there is any opportunity where we are missing, we inform the neighborhood 511 00:42:47,800 --> 00:43:00,280 typically if there is no HOA, our suggestion to the resident is to get feedback from the 512 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,320 immediate neighborhood members in that area, that location where the stop sign or where 513 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,400 the improvement would be, at least a couple of houses in that area and get a sign letter 514 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,600 or some way or maybe we could attend, as staff we could attend that meeting, and that's it, 515 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:22,080 no HOA is needed, if the HOA is not there, then a few members of that community that 516 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520 will be impacted directly would be enough. 517 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,400 Would you send a letter or how do you actually contact? 518 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:35,560 So the citizen who would contact us typically or if it is coming from council member or 519 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,800 mobility committee member, we request them, but if it is just a citizen, we go meet with 520 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,400 them in person, and then after looking at, after auditing, we'll share the finding that 521 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,480 that's a possibility, but we would like to get a larger feedback from the community, 522 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:56,120 so we request their help to help us get this feedback, and we offer some support as well 523 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,800 that if needed from our end, but simply if they can share with us the contact information, 524 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,800 we can provide that. 525 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,280 Yeah, and I see that's a challenge. 526 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:13,800 I feel like there are definitely, you know, whether it's an age thing or lifestyle, some 527 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,640 people either don't know that they can even make those requests or don't feel the sense 528 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,020 of ownership or even that they can offer that feedback, and one of the things I've mentioned 529 00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:31,920 before is I'm just really curious if it's hard to capture the feedback, whether it's 530 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,400 people aren't attending meetings, people aren't opening their mail, people aren't signing 531 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,360 up for these notifications, they're not checking email, they're not reading the newspaper, 532 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:48,800 they might see something on Facebook, maybe, but now people under 30, they're not on Facebook. 533 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,680 Have we ever considered putting a sign, just putting out signs with QR code, and the QR 534 00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:02,760 code could be a generic landing page that then they could navigate, so we know people 535 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,560 are in the neighborhoods, we know they are getting around either by car or by foot or 536 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:13,560 whatever, and we know that there are renters and there are some people who own the homes. 537 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:20,200 I'm curious if that could be an option where if it's just a generic, the city wants your 538 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,760 feedback, give it, we'd love your feedback, scan this QR code, and that could just go 539 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,880 to some kind of generic landing page, those signs could be reused everywhere in the city, 540 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,880 right? 541 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Charlie, you want to say something, or I could respond to that if you want. 542 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,480 I just want to mention, Jasmine just let me know, the next mobility committee meeting 543 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,680 we're going to be talking about, CIP's got a new process for outreach for people, so 544 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,840 that would be a good way to have that discussion. 545 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,600 That would be great, okay. 546 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:55,240 And one other question I had just really quick about the data, when we are trying to find 547 00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:02,000 out as far as how people are using, I guess, a certain area, and I don't know the technical 548 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,760 methods in which you get that data, if you, I don't know if you set up, you know, cameras 549 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,360 or taking pictures, or if there's, I know sometimes on the street there's like a thing 550 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,440 that you can drive over, I don't know if that's measuring something, but I'm curious how do 551 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,520 we capture data of our people who are not in a vehicle, how do we know how many people 552 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,760 are using a particular intersection or street, is there any way that we are able to capture 553 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,760 that data? 554 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:36,560 Yes, we have access to that data as well for BikePad, that's limited because it has QNAS, 555 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:42,320 it has biases, but we have access to that data as well for BikePad users. 556 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:50,640 But in many cases we rely on multiple audits, that's true in case of, as you mentioned auto 557 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,680 trips are in many cases pretty straightforward, you look at Chris database, look at the crashes, 558 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,840 and then look at the traffic volume, and you can make the, in some audits you can make 559 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,840 the call. 560 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:08,360 But in case of BikePad we have to, the areas are special to us, and we make multiple audits 561 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:17,000 in different time peaks, and AM, midday, evening, and then we make the call, and on top of that 562 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,680 we have some additional data on BikePad users as well. 563 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,680 Alright, cool. 564 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,680 Thank you. 565 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,120 Alright, thank you. 566 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,960 Any other questions real quick, we were a little over, so we should probably move on 567 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,960 to the next item. 568 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,160 Anything else from you Dr. Butt on this item? 569 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,160 Okay. 570 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:38,860 So with that we will move on to item 2C, MC26008, the Receiver Report Hold Discussion Regarding 571 00:47:38,860 --> 00:47:47,720 the Proposed FY26 DCTA Transportation Reinvestment Program Trip Funding Application. 572 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:56,200 Alright, good morning committee members, Seth Garcia, Director of Capital Projects, Honorary 573 00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:02,680 Member of the Transportation Services Division today, I'll be walking you through this brief 574 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:08,080 presentation on our application for our trip funds for DCTA. 575 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:14,680 So just a brief overview, so the trip program is done by DCTA, they basically take 15% of 576 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:20,240 their net available funds from the previous fiscal year, they'll use 95% of that to its 577 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:24,320 different member cities, and then they keep 5% to administer the program. 578 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:31,040 So for this operating year DCTA's board approved a budget of just over 3.7 million dollars, 579 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,180 and the city's portion of that is roughly 1.84, it's that specific number highlighted 580 00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:38,180 by the asterisk. 581 00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:43,960 So again for project eligibility it has to be located primarily within the DCTA service 582 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:50,320 areas, located within the boundaries of a DCTA member city, located within a quarter 583 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,480 mile of any A train station or DCTA fixed bus route, and it demonstrates the project 584 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,260 is financially sound. 585 00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:07,120 So staff is recommending one project, this is our Woodrow Lane sidewalk and trail improvement 586 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,120 project. 587 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,760 I'm going to get into the budget a little bit more on the next slide. 588 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:20,980 So in 2024 we had a project that was proposed and approved through DCTA for roughly $850,000 589 00:49:20,980 --> 00:49:27,840 to put in a side path and on street path or bike lanes on Woodrow roughly from McKinney 590 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:35,420 down to the DCTA sidewalk that runs along the A train. 591 00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:41,880 With that $20,000 was going to be used as a feasibility, roughly $410,000 for the design 592 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,360 contract and that would leave us about $420,000 to construct. 593 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,120 We went through that feasibility study and found that our cost estimate to be able to 594 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:58,160 put in potentially a 10 foot side path is roughly $2.2 to $2.4 million. 595 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:04,240 And so using this $1.8 million we are requesting to add that as construction funds to be able 596 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,560 to build that 2024 project. 597 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,660 So again, we're currently in the design process working through that. 598 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:18,200 This funding that we're requesting would go to fund the remainder of the construction. 599 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,960 So as you can see there on the bottom we're anticipating this year to work through the 600 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,960 design and then start construction spring of '27. 601 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,640 Seth, I'm sorry. 602 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,640 You're good. 603 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,640 I beg your pardon. 604 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,720 Tell me again, McKinney, Woodrow Lane from McKinney to where? 605 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:43,120 From McKinney down to where the DCTA tracks are and there's the 10 foot DCTA trail. 606 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,480 So it's just south of Spencer. 607 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,200 That goes towards the DME. 608 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,200 Okay. 609 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,200 I got it. 610 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,200 I got it now. 611 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,200 Where the double line is. 612 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,240 I just could not think of where that was. 613 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,240 I got it now. 614 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:56,240 Thank you. 615 00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,240 Perfect. 616 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:58,240 By the memory care place. 617 00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,240 Yeah. 618 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:00,240 I forget where that was. 619 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:01,240 By DME. 620 00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:02,240 Yeah. 621 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,240 I forget where that was. 622 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,240 Remember? 623 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:08,960 We want to receive your direction from this. 624 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:15,120 We'll present it to City Council and request a resolution to approve, to apply for this 625 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,080 grant funds. 626 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:23,320 We'll submit that to DCTA and then again you'll see once it's approved it come onto the DCTA 627 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,600 trip report that you'll get quarterly at this committee. 628 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,600 And that is it. 629 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,600 I can take any questions. 630 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,320 Seth, I'm going to lead off real quick and then pass it to the board. 631 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:43,560 We're requesting this one project for all of our allocation and Mobility is seeing numerous 632 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,800 guiding concepts, particularly Safe Routes to School related and some of our Sycamore 633 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,800 related. 634 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,760 There's many Mobility projects throughout town because we still have a few bus routes 635 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,040 in Denton. 636 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:07,000 So our zone of coverage is large and there's many projects you have in the pipeline. 637 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 And I don't have a problem with this project. 638 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,360 Why this project for all the money is my question. 639 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,360 No great. 640 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,120 So the good news is this amount that we needed lined up closely once we did the feasibility 641 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,100 study to match what we needed for construction. 642 00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:26,600 And so by allowing us to put this in as a funding source we don't have to include it 643 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:32,400 in a future year CIP for just being able to design what we're looking at on Woodrow and 644 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,920 then shelf it. 645 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,040 So that's one opportunity there is it provides the construction funding that we needed very 646 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,400 close based of our estimate for the feasibility. 647 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:47,960 The second is administratively it's better to do one and apply it here. 648 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,160 Again this allows us to utilize these funds. 649 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,600 And if we put it on multiple projects we've seen in previous years with like the more 650 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,080 street on street trail if we don't use it it ties up those funds for a while and then 651 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,220 to reallocate them it has to go back into the bucket. 652 00:53:04,220 --> 00:53:09,520 So one of the instances that we found is with multiple projects where it came in under budget 653 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,760 we lose access to those funds because they're tied to that. 654 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,960 So by allowing it all to go to one project we're kind of mitigating that risk and providing 655 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,720 the construction funding that we're anticipating to need. 656 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:24,040 Okay I appreciate that answer and before I pass it back to the rest of the board because 657 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,840 I don't have any more questions. 658 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:34,800 We have buses but how are trip funds allocated to the non-bus cities? 659 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,760 That is a fantastic question I do not know. 660 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,120 Because one of the requirements was near a route but Highland Village and everywhere 661 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,640 else is just go zone. 662 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:50,360 Well I guess everybody has the train but how are they, what's the restrictions on the other 663 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,520 cities for trip funds? 664 00:53:53,520 --> 00:54:02,440 So I know that for Hanbat from transportation services I know staff knows that these funds 665 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:10,680 are allocated but we can circle back on after confirming from DCTA that how those funds 666 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,480 are allocated likely for go zones but we have to confirm. 667 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:20,520 Okay I appreciate that board oh go ahead. 668 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:29,760 Does this project touch a bus stop or a bus route or is it I mean the quick glance I looked 669 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,600 over it was like it had to be within a certain yeah so I know it's I know it's connecting 670 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:39,240 to a path along the train but it's not connecting to the train correct? 671 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:45,860 Correct so it is a connection point to the the rails and trails trail and then bus route 672 00:54:45,860 --> 00:54:52,560 three runs down McKinney and has a stop that was located right on the corner of the I think 673 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,040 it's the Carroll County building it's since been removed but they do have active stops 674 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,000 all along McKinney Street there and so we're meeting the requirement that it's within the 675 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,360 project's located within a quarter mile of an active bus route which is route three. 676 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:18,520 May I ask the connection to the trail is the trail typically used for like getting to work 677 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:25,640 or is there any way we know like is the trail for leisure or is it mostly used for like 678 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:33,820 needing to get places and does this project help people get places for work or for shopping 679 00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:39,860 or is this more of like like a leash an exercise route? 680 00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:46,800 I can answer that question yes it will be a bit of everything you know because it completes 681 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:53,020 the access to the not only to the station but also to the communities as well. 682 00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:58,240 May I ask as well do we feel like I know one of the major goals we've had as we discussed 683 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,920 with the last presentation is especially with the infrastructure that we're trying to build 684 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:09,720 we are trying to encourage and make a big dent economically and I know this area there 685 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:17,220 are portions of it that there's not really there are no storefronts there's a few like 686 00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:25,240 shops and like car body shops and stuff like that and then there's a jail and like a bond 687 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:34,600 place so does this project pose a better economic impact than possibly any other types of projects 688 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,920 or I'm just I understand it's like we kind of wanted to go all with one because that 689 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:44,760 might make it easier for not losing money but I'm just curious like economically how 690 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,640 is this helping Denton? 691 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:53,720 So assess it from the aspect of first and last mile connection so that that connectivity 692 00:56:53,720 --> 00:57:01,840 would be completed here because imagine so if the it is incomplete network no access 693 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:11,200 to the station then essentially we are not using this corridor for any trips so maybe 694 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:19,360 we can project that once this route is complete then we'll see a lot of first and last mile 695 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,360 connections. 696 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:27,000 So people would get off of the bus somewhere along McKinney and then walk or bike or bike 697 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:36,120 is it a mile two miles to the next train stop or maybe staff can confirm that okay I'm just 698 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:42,760 kind of curious if that if that will be if we'll get a lot of people doing that but that 699 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:48,040 would be great I understand that we are trying to get some connection there and then if there 700 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:53,560 are any other projects please share with us and then there are other opportunities next 701 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:59,920 year we'll be applying for more projects and we'll bring them in but this is one of those 702 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:06,720 projects that will help us complete the network it's not everything but it's a good step towards 703 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:07,720 that. 704 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:16,560 Seth do you need direction on this from the committee are we are we posted for direction? 705 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,320 Yeah so I think we're just looking for approval to take it forward to council to submit the 706 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,320 application. 707 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,440 So that that is direction so you have the floor Commissioner Penn do you have direction 708 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:31,300 on this? 709 00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:41,920 I just because I'm not seeing any other possible projects I don't know I can't really compare 710 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:48,000 it but if staff feels confident with this one then I I think we could move it forward 711 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,400 I just don't want to miss out on opportunities for funding if we have to start all over with 712 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:59,520 another possible project or two I'd like to hear what the rest of the committee thinks 713 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,640 too I don't want to be the sole person for that. 714 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,000 I will move down because Councilor Holland's next but I will give direction yes and and 715 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:15,000 so we'll pass the Councilor is there is there any sidewalk currently there now yes currently 716 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:21,480 there now there are sections of sidewalk I would say just from my google driving through 717 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:27,680 a lot of it does not meet our current ADA criteria so ramps don't look ADA compliant 718 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:34,000 in portions it does get pretty narrow like three and four feet so again this this proposed 719 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,400 project would be to look at significantly widening and providing and and and we're 720 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,720 talking 10 feet wide that would be the goal and and is this on both sides of the street 721 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:51,360 I believe we would prioritize one side of the roads and so is that east or west side 722 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:57,160 the the feasibility was the east side east side okay yes sir and and and I support it 723 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,800 I don't know if that's if that's in line or not but I I support the project go ahead 724 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,640 all right sorry just wanted to jump in we're not posted to actually give direction okay 725 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,880 that's what I was trying to figure out posted for a discussion just for discussion all right 726 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:19,360 then you don't have to worry about direction anymore then yeah we'll erase those yeah yes 727 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:25,560 I'm in favor of this because I go at least two times a day I see lots of bicycles and 728 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:32,240 there's walkers there constantly awesome and you see you see people walking to the mall 729 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:40,320 and back from the mall I see people on bicycles I see people going across on the bicycle path 730 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,280 and I can tell some of them are just doing it for pleasure and some of them are going 731 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:50,600 to work I think that's a path that's used quite a bit I see it all that's my area of 732 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:59,760 town thank you okay Mr. Penn you hit you wanted to have another call well I I am glad to hear 733 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:06,120 about this project truly and I would be curious next year one of the things I know with route 734 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:13,920 for possibly coming back online across University Drive that's not that's not currently there 735 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,920 but that's another area that desperately needs sidewalks and so I'm curious if trip funding 736 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,640 could be applied for I guess that might have to be something for next year because there's 737 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,960 not currently anything connecting there but there are sections of University Drive that 738 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,000 don't even have a sidewalk so I'm just kind of yeah I think that was part of the discussion 739 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,000 or if that's kind of like a next year thing yeah I think it would be next year I think 740 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,720 transportation services would take that evaluated against the existing criteria with the program 741 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,480 that we talked about earlier and then make a recommendation any other comments for Seth 742 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:55,000 all right thank you go ahead sir yeah I just looked up DCTA's trip program and it has to 743 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:00,160 be within a quarter mile of an a train station or a DCTA fixed bus route so I guess if there's 744 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:07,760 any a train situation with Highland Village you mean the other cities yeah yeah so then 745 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,920 well now now since you opened up the can of worms so I could if staff wouldn't mind getting 746 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:20,560 back because I would be really curious if they're applying all their trip funds to just 747 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:25,600 a quarter mile from the a train because it does not seem to be the case that that's how 748 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:32,320 they're doing it but maybe maybe I am not tracking our sister cities as well as I am 749 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,480 our own city yeah we can follow up on that and then just one more thing so I think we're 750 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,400 doing McKinney Street sidewalks up on the north side of this too right yeah that's correct 751 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,540 so I'll actually touch on that here in just a second our construction report all right 752 01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:54,400 great all right any other nope okay good so moving on we will move on to item 2d mc 26009 753 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,280 the staff memorandum all right Seth Garcia director of capital projects again so just 754 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,640 going to walk you through a couple quick updates here at the top so we've got an update on 755 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:09,640 the growing bike bus program looks like transportation services worked with it reached out to a couple 756 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:16,200 schools it looks like they were not interested and had no follow-up so again we could revisit 757 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:22,240 this if initiated by the school but before we go on to the next item yeah this this was 758 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:30,160 one that I was pushing I'm going to encourage just this the schools are the wrong audience 759 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:37,280 on this one the PTAs and the parent-led organizations are the correct audience for this and and 760 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:43,680 it's it's mostly because this the schools will use teachers and the teachers are overloaded 761 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,920 and they won't be able to put any more on their their platform or their plate then then 762 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:55,920 I mean even asking them to be crossing guards as is done is not a good use of the teachers 763 01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:03,040 time so I mean I'm going to encourage us not to take this off our matrix when we get to 764 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:09,040 that section but but to revisit this with with a with the correct receptive audience 765 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:16,320 because the ones that led it at Newton Razor were all parent-led activities sure we reached 766 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:23,040 out a couple of times to reach on their contact information but unfortunately the initial 767 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:28,680 there was interest before Christmas but the follow-up request from the school principal 768 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:34,400 or the assistant principal they did not provide us the information for us to start working 769 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:41,980 the base work to see if there is PTA or parents and what we can help them so we got stalled 770 01:04:41,980 --> 01:04:49,580 on the initial step so no that's fair and and and any one of us or or others can help 771 01:04:49,580 --> 01:04:55,120 you make contacts with with the various PTA organizations or you can I'm sure the principal 772 01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:01,200 can can help hook you up with with his or her I forget the principal in this one I think 773 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:08,180 it's a anyway I'm not going to worry about pronouns the principals PTA I'm sure they 774 01:05:08,180 --> 01:05:15,080 know who that person is and can connect you up with that with that board share real follow-up 775 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:22,000 all right and so yeah I guess next next item that that's Seth or Rebecca but wanted to 776 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:32,160 follow up on or you yeah it's mine mockingbird lane right turn at the order we did the initial 777 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:37,400 audit and we have ordered traffic counts and we will follow up whether it warranted to 778 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:49,360 build one at a month of May meeting all right that sounds good any other concerns back to 779 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:58,120 Seth and the trip reports all right so let's talk construction so Bonnie Bray three again 780 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,080 I'm not going to touch on all of these if you have any questions feel free to stop me 781 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,600 Bonnie Bray three we are in active construction again I don't know if anybody noticed what 782 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:11,600 the signal is now live at FM 1515 and Bonnie Bray so that is significantly helped with 783 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,800 the reconfiguration that text out did of those ramps so we've gotten a lot of compliments 784 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,420 from the Peterbilt folks and everybody out there that was getting stuck in traffic again 785 01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:26,920 live you mean is yellow green it is operating okay on Sunday it was it was flashing yeah 786 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:34,840 yeah so it went live this week so Bonnie Bray 4b again currently in 90% design we still have 787 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,480 to finish up the design and look at future right away acquisitions again that will be 788 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,720 re-kicked off once we finish up with phases three and six Bonnie Bray five was a part 789 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,200 of that mill overlay package it is actually coming forward to city council for a contract 790 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,840 consideration in April so that'll be a part of the mill overlay package with a few other 791 01:06:54,840 --> 01:07:01,560 roadways so Bonnie Bray five will get a facelift there Bonnie Bray six utilities are needing 792 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:08,960 nearing completion we have started mixing operations out there working from US 77 south 793 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:14,920 towards Windsor and hopefully we'll even get as far as the Academy with our dirt work the 794 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:19,120 good news is hopefully about six weeks you're going to see our bond breaker asphalt and 795 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:24,000 then concrete paving going down on those new southbound lanes so again our goal for that 796 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,880 project is build those southbound lanes move traffic over and then come back and reconfigure 797 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:38,640 and rebuild those current lanes that are there and did I hear concrete concrete concrete 798 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:46,040 it's nice when Tex dot gives us millions to build concrete yeah I want to be I will put 799 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,480 you we'll have it in a later discussion of asphalt versus concrete I'll put you in touch 800 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:56,320 with this man who will tell you all about that I will say that this is going to be be 801 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:01,440 careful what you ask for on Bonnie Bray six because we desperately need to do it but then 802 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:07,320 your poor office or Dr. Butts will be fielding so many complaints about the construction 803 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:14,120 on Bonnie Bray six I feel very sympathetic yeah going forward yeah no it's it's the 804 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,080 complaints are coming so we're we're handling them best we can have you got a projection 805 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:25,000 on this completion date q2 of 27 will be final completion for Bonnie Bray six yeah it's early 806 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:34,320 q2 it's April right now what about around around the stadium stadium will be done I 807 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:41,720 think October November timeframe is what we're tracking right now okay thank you yes sir 808 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:47,240 okay Riley Road East this is another one that is under construction so contractors actually 809 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:52,160 out there it was awarded through council in March so we've issued the NTP they're supposed 810 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:57,880 to be done by December of 2026 just as a reminder this is from Reeves Elementary where Bonnie 811 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:05,360 Bray six stopped going east to US 77 so connecting those sidewalks widening the roadway and then 812 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:10,160 also including the trails through North Lakes Park so they are actively working on the trails 813 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:15,280 through North Lakes Park is where they are starting and when will that start finish it 814 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:22,580 is under construction now it will be complete December of 26 okay the one of the documents 815 01:09:22,580 --> 01:09:28,840 that he we can have him cover in a second is is those ETA charts yeah West Gate Road 816 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:34,560 phase one so this is the east west connector to Bronco Way we are just about done so we 817 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:39,800 have opened that up to traffic they are literally completing some punch list items so April 818 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:47,680 2026 will be final completion that's a beautiful road I drive it to take my daughter to dance 819 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:53,400 class over in that shopping center one of the things I noticed the lighting is spectacular 820 01:09:53,400 --> 01:10:01,000 in this area there is there are double lights through the medians however those stop when 821 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,600 you get anywhere close to the high school and there is not a there's not a street light 822 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,760 to be found I'm curious is there any way we can add more lighting to in front base I guess 823 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,760 it would be Bronco Way why why is there no lighting over there by the school yeah so 824 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:23,720 I don't know why it was not included when Kingsridge and didn't ISD was built so we 825 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:30,880 can work with DME to see if it's a future CIP project or DME wants to look at incorporating 826 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:36,240 that lighting coming all the way through again we build it kind of a standard with our projects 827 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:43,480 then DME maintains it again with it not being done by a capital project being private developments 828 01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:47,880 I don't have a great answer for you why it was not included yeah and bring this back 829 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:56,360 up at the future items item all right neighborhood 5B in Oakland so we're currently under design 830 01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:01,840 still we're expecting 90 percent design here in April good news we were able to acquire 831 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,740 the property behind the movie tavern that's going to be the site for the detention pond 832 01:11:05,740 --> 01:11:12,000 next to the fairgrounds so we were able to reach a volunteer or a voluntary offer settlement 833 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:17,240 with that property owner so it is currently headed towards closing that's great news McKinney 834 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:23,760 sidewalks this has also been awarded and is under construction and so the the interim's 835 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,920 McKinney sidewalk improvements are going I saw the surveyors out there yesterday laying 836 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:33,440 out some of the staking so again they are projected to be complete September of 26 both 837 01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:38,760 sides one side one side the the south side south side then but you cross over and go 838 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,800 on the north or something as I remember it no it's all south we are consistent on the 839 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:50,720 south from loop 288 all the way to Audra all right Nottingham whatever the Colorado Woodrow 840 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:59,600 Woodrow it the the road that changes four different times yeah yes okay Ryan Road currently 841 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,800 at 90 percent design we are in active right away acquisition so we needed 30 plus parcels 842 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:10,480 I think we've acquired roughly half of them the other half are in negotiations we will 843 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:15,100 have a few in eminent domain so again kind of holding at 90 percent design there till 844 01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:20,840 we get completed and then lastly Hickory Creek three everybody's favorite bridge we have 845 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:26,120 cleared all of the gas line conflicts so if you haven't been out there or seen it recently 846 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:31,200 they've actually hung the beams over the creek which is fantastic looking they're working 847 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,520 on the bridge deck we're still on track to be done q1 of 27 and hopefully by the fall 848 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,760 we're going to have traffic going across that bridge which will be much needed connection 849 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:51,280 for for everybody out there awesome sounds all right so here's the the Gantt chart for 850 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,960 those different projects so again happy to answer any questions I tried to include those 851 01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:06,680 end dates very good yes sir thank you thank you all right last item is the DCTA trip report 852 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:13,800 again this is showing all of our projects from 2021 through 25 and then again what we 853 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:21,440 covered today will be the 2026 submission so happy to answer any questions I know it's 854 01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:27,400 a lot of information is probably very small I've got to see most of them in progress and 855 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,160 many of them completed so thank you for accelerating those I think I know that they languished 856 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,720 for a while and it's similar to your comments that you said earlier in the session where 857 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:45,960 we're getting them going and so yeah I'm pleased also questions comments on this before we 858 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:55,880 move on no all right all right so lastly we have the future items matrix so I heard we'll 859 01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:02,160 keep number one on there that we had marked for removal with the the bike bus program 860 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:07,760 we are proposing to remove the mobility plan introduction Farhan was able to complete that 861 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:17,320 and then our trip funding application the presentation I went through will be removed 862 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,200 all right any any questions about removal I mean I know we don't vote on them anymore 863 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:27,080 that's the new change any questions on removal before we go into things that you would like 864 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:35,400 to see added no all right I will lead on on one and and I'm not sure if this is an item 865 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:39,760 so I will leave this to staff whether it's an it's an item to add or whether it's just 866 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:46,120 something that you think about and that is there's been some citizens in Denia that have 867 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:52,240 contacted me they're concerned about sort of the combination of road widths parking 868 01:14:52,240 --> 01:15:02,600 and and general traffic patterns in the Denia Roselon area where we're old Denia interfaces 869 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:12,080 with new rose lawn neighborhood and they just want to know if the road widths and the parking 870 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:22,720 combo are contributing to an unusual accident engagement safety issues they're particularly 871 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,600 concerned about lots of on-street parking contributing to visibility and vision zero 872 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:33,360 issues so I don't know if that's so specific that it doesn't need to be on the matrix 873 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,480 but that is that is the request from that neighborhood to explore that yeah I think 874 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:43,520 transportation services said they can take a look at that okay we can get back and then 875 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,480 others that you want to think about adding Commissioner Pam as we discussed earlier I'd 876 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:55,640 like to either do some kind of evaluation or see how we can add lighting to complete 877 01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,360 from Westgate over I guess to where reiney road I'm assuming reiney road will have a 878 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:06,520 lighting plan but there seems to be a gap there on bronco way in front of the high school 879 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:12,920 so I think that that would be one another another thing I'd like to offer for consideration 880 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:20,600 is I don't know if this might be a more of a code thing I'm not quite sure but maybe 881 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:29,160 we could start with some kind of a audit bike pedestrian audit the shopping center the main 882 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:39,000 shopping center along University Drive that it's you know El Matador and Kroger has a 883 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:48,160 dead center good old Denton Center this place where I frequent a lot there that that property 884 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,680 is a long University Drive where there is a lack of a sidewalk which I understand is 885 01:16:52,680 --> 01:17:03,560 a text dot thing I I would like to know how we can ensure that if people are required 886 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:12,360 to use basically a parking lot because there is not a sidewalk facility is there any way 887 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:18,100 we can maybe do an audit of that area to find out where are people walking and if if there's 888 01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:24,680 a way we could collaborate with that property owner to either have a painted designated 889 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:31,040 area for people to walk or bike so just kind of putting that out there this is an area 890 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:38,280 that I fear will likely not have any place to walk or bike for a long time on that side 891 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:43,660 of the road and it's just it's very busy and there's there's just it's not clear where 892 01:17:43,660 --> 01:17:49,040 to go and it feels very sketchy and dangerous we've got kit my kids bike over there to go 893 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:56,800 shopping so I it's in that weird gray area because it's on a private property so I don't 894 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,800 know how we can how I'm not sure quite how to tie it into a bow maybe you guys can find 895 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:07,280 a way to make it make sense sidewalk on the south side is there not sure but there's no 896 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:12,180 intersection between Carroll and then all the way to Fulton and there's this there that 897 01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:16,780 almost that entire way there's no sidewalk on the north side on the north side sure but 898 01:18:16,780 --> 01:18:21,000 that's where all the shopping is so where people walking yeah if you're trying to get 899 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:26,500 across the parking lot to the church or to my neighborhood there is no way to walk that 900 01:18:26,500 --> 01:18:28,640 way unless you're walking through a parking lot. 901 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,600 Seth did you have a comment yeah I was gonna say I think transportation services can look 902 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,400 at and evaluate it is a text audit in a private property facility so I think we can probably 903 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,320 come back with something okay cool that'd be great. 904 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:47,500 Other other items on the matrix before we move on anything else from you that is it 905 01:18:47,500 --> 01:18:55,500 all right so then we will move on to concluding items any concluding items all right well 906 01:18:55,500 --> 01:19:03,100 hearing none then I will end the meeting at 1119 and thank you staff and everyone for 907 01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:04,100 your time. 908 01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:05,120 And when do we meet again.