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 This item is a final plan for

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 >> This item is Hickory Grove

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 This is a final plan for the

916
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,000
 bridge.

917
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000
 This is a final plan for the

918
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,000
 bridge.

919
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,000
 This is a final plan for the

920
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,000
 bridge.

921
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,000
 This is a final plan for the

922
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,000
 bridge.

923
00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000
 This is a final plan for the

924
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000
 bridge.

925
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000
 This is a final plan for the

926
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000
 bridge.

927
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000
 This is a final plan for the

928
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000
 bridge.

929
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000
 This is a final plan for the

930
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000
 bridge.

931
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000
 This is a final plan for the

932
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000
 bridge.

933
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000
 This is a final plan for the

934
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000
 bridge.

935
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000
 This is a final plan for the

936
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000
 bridge.

937
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000
 This is a final plan for the

938
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000
 bridge.

939
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000
 This is a final plan for the

940
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000
 bridge.

941
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000
 This is a final plan for the

942
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000
 bridge.

943
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,000
 This is a final plan for the

944
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000
 bridge.

945
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000
 This is a final plan for the

946
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000
 bridge.

947
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,000
 This is a final plan for the

948
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000
 bridge.

949
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000
 This is a final plan for the

950
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000
 bridge.

951
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000
 This is a final plan for the

952
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000
 bridge.

953
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000
 This is a final plan for the

954
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,000
 bridge.

955
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000
 This is a final plan for the

956
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000
 bridge.

957
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000
 This is a final plan for the

958
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000
 bridge.

959
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000
 This is a final plan for the

960
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000
 bridge.

961
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000
 This is a final plan for the

962
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000
 bridge.

963
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000
 This is a final plan for the

964
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000
 bridge.

965
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000
 This is a final plan for the

966
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000
 bridge.

967
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,000
 This is a final plan for the

968
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000
 bridge.

969
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,000
 This is a final plan for the

970
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000
 bridge.

971
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000
 This is a final plan for the

972
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000
 bridge.

973
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000
 This is a final plan for the

974
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000
 bridge.

975
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000
 This is a final plan for the

976
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000
 bridge.

977
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000
 This is a final plan for the

978
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000
 bridge.

979
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,000
 This is a final plan for the

980
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,000
 bridge.

981
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000
 This is a final plan for the

982
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000
 bridge.

983
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,000
 This is a final plan for the

984
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000
 bridge.

985
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000
 This is a final plan for the

986
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000
 bridge.

987
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000
 This is a final plan for the

988
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000
 bridge.

989
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000
 This is a final plan for the

990
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000
 bridge.

991
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000
 This is a final plan for the

992
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000
 bridge.

993
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000
 This is a final plan for the

994
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000
 bridge.

995
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000
 This is a final plan for the

996
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000
 bridge.

997
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000
 This is a final plan for the

998
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000
 bridge.

999
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000
 This is a final plan for the

1000
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000
 bridge.

1001
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000
 This is a final plan for the

1002
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,000
 bridge.

1003
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000
 This is a final plan for the

1004
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000
 bridge.

1005
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000
 This is a final plan for the

1006
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000
 bridge.

1007
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000
 This is a final plan for the

1008
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000
 bridge.

1009
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000
 This is a final plan for the

1010
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:42,000
 bridge.

1011
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
 >> Good afternoon, commission.

1012
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1013
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,000
 sit down because this is more

1014
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:57,000
 conversational.

1015
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1016
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000
 sit down because this is more

1017
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000
 conversational.

1018
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1019
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000
 sit down because this is more

1020
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,000
 conversational.

1021
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1022
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000
 sit down because this is more

1023
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000
 conversational.

1024
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1025
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000
 sit down because this is more

1026
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,000
 conversational.

1027
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1028
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000
 sit down because this is more

1029
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000
 conversational.

1030
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1031
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000
 sit down because this is more

1032
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000
 conversational.

1033
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1034
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,000
 sit down because this is more

1035
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000
 conversational.

1036
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1037
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000
 sit down because this is more

1038
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000
 conversational.

1039
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1040
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000
 sit down because this is more

1041
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000
 conversational.

1042
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1043
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000
 sit down because this is more

1044
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000
 conversational.

1045
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1046
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000
 sit down because this is more

1047
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000
 conversational.

1048
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1049
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000
 sit down because this is more

1050
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000
 conversational.

1051
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1052
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
 sit down because this is more

1053
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000
 conversational.

1054
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1055
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000
 sit down because this is more

1056
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000
 conversational.

1057
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1058
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,000
 sit down because this is more

1059
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,000
 conversational.

1060
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1061
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000
 sit down because this is more

1062
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000
 conversational.

1063
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1064
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000
 sit down because this is more

1065
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000
 conversational.

1066
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1067
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
 sit down because this is more

1068
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,000
 conversational.

1069
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1070
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000
 sit down because this is more

1071
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000
 conversational.

1072
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1073
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,000
 sit down because this is more

1074
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000
 conversational.

1075
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1076
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,000
 sit down because this is more

1077
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000
 conversational.

1078
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1079
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000
 sit down because this is more

1080
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000
 conversational.

1081
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1082
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000
 sit down because this is more

1083
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
 conversational.

1084
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1085
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000
 sit down because this is more

1086
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000
 conversational.

1087
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1088
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000
 sit down because this is more

1089
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000
 conversational.

1090
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000
 I'm going to take the mouse and

1091
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000
 sit down because this is more

1092
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,000
 conversational.

1093
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000
 Okay.

1094
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000
 So in homage of the awesome Tina

1095
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000
 fragrance, let's begin with the

1096
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
 end in mind.

1097
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000
 The bill that we're talking

1098
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000
 about today did a few different

1099
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000
 things and brought in most

1100
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000
 probative part.

1101
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000
 It placed restrictions on the

1102
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000
 city's ability to ask for

1103
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000
 right-of-way dedication at the

1104
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
 plat stage.

1105
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000
 To come into compliance with

1106
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000
 this but still get the business

1107
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1108
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1109
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
 the plat stage.

1110
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000
 To come into compliance with

1111
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000
 this but still get the business

1112
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1113
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1114
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000
 the plat stage.

1115
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000
 To come into compliance with

1116
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,000
 this but still get the business

1117
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1118
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1119
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
 the plat stage.

1120
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000
 To come into compliance with

1121
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000
 this but still get the business

1122
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1123
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1124
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
 plat stage.

1125
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
 To come into compliance with

1126
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
 this but still get the business

1127
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1128
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1129
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000
 plat stage.

1130
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000
 To come into compliance with

1131
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000
 this but still get the business

1132
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1133
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1134
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000
 plat stage.

1135
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,000
 To come into compliance with

1136
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000
 this but still get the business

1137
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1138
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1139
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000
 plat stage.

1140
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000
 To come into compliance with

1141
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,000
 this but still get the business

1142
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,000
 of the city done, staff moved

1143
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,000
 the right-of-way dedication at

1144
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000
 plat stage.

1145
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
 Okay, let's talk about

1146
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000
 right-of-ways.

1147
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,000
 This is a recently approved

1148
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
 plat, reserves at Brush Creek.

1149
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000
 I'm pointing you to the north

1150
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
 arrow, and I'm also flagging a

1151
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000
 very specific right-of-way

1152
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000
 portion in this green arrow.

1153
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000
 You'll see that it is about

1154
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,000
 67.5 feet wide for a future

1155
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000
 city of Denton Road.

1156
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
 You'll also see just for

1157
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
 comparison purposes, we've got

1158
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000
 other streets marked as a

1159
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000
 private right-of-way.

1160
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000
 There's going to be streets

1161
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,000
 that are built and maintained

1162
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000
 and owned by the community.

1163
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000
 This is from the city of

1164
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000
 Denton GIS page with the

1165
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000
 mobility plan layer turned on.

1166
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000
 So that's what we're talking

1167
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,000
 about here, the 2002 mobility

1168
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000
 plan, and here's the little

1169
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
 legend.

1170
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000
 Here in the green arrow is the

1171
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000
 same spot on the plat we were

1172
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000
 just looking at, and that's

1173
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000
 basically how I, when I'm

1174
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000
 looking at plats, what I tend

1175
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000
 to kind of take a look at if I

1176
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000
 have questions of like, hey, why

1177
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,000
 is this dedication 67 feet wide?

1178
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
 That seems real big.

1179
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000
 So I would go to the map, and I

1180
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
 would see this, and I'd be

1181
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000
 like, oh, it's a primary

1182
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000
 arterial.

1183
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000
 That makes sense.

1184
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000
 And since I don't have widths

1185
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000
 of everything memorized, I may

1186
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000
 also go to the mobility plan

1187
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000
 where I get a variety of

1188
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,000
 information like what's shown

1189
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000
 here.

1190
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000
 For our purposes on this

1191
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000
 example, we see that the

1192
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000
 right-of-way for the whole

1193
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000
 thing is 135 feet.

1194
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000
 I have the math, and half of

1195
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000
 that is 67.5 feet, and so that

1196
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
 kind of puts two and two

1197
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000
 together for why we had that

1198
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,000
 67-foot-wide dedication.

1199
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000
 So that's probably a redundant

1200
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
 overview, but I thought it

1201
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
 helpful for context setting

1202
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000
 purposes.

1203
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000
 Any questions, comments, pirate

1204
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000
 jokes?

1205
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000
 Okay.

1206
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,000
 Okay.

1207
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
 So the next piece is we're going

1208
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
 to walk through the bill.

1209
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000
 So HB 3699 was passed in the

1210
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000
 '80s legislation and was

1211
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000
 effective in September of

1212
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000
 2023.

1213
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000
 The bill's goal was to refine

1214
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000
 and standardize the Plaid

1215
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000
 approval process, and it did a

1216
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000
 number of things like what's

1217
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000
 listed here.

1218
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
 In my view, the main goals of

1219
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000
 the bill were to make it very

1220
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000
 clear of when the shot clock

1221
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
 starts by making it very -- by

1222
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,000
 putting a responsibility on the

1223
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000
 city to list everything that is

1224
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000
 required in order to make a

1225
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000
 Plaid application, and that the

1226
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
 shot clock starts once the

1227
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
 application and all of those

1228
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,000
 additional documents are

1229
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,000
 received.

1230
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
 Not Denton, but apparently other

1231
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000
 cities had a little bit of

1232
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
 wiggly room such that NFDA

1233
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,000
 developers complained, and yep,

1234
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
 that's what we have.

1235
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000
 Also, something else that we

1236
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
 changed as a result of this bill

1237
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
 was where we ask for

1238
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000
 information like traffic reports

1239
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000
 or drainage information.

1240
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000
 Before this bill, we asked for

1241
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
 that information at the Plaid

1242
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000
 application stage.

1243
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,000
 Challenge accepted.

1244
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
 How many times can I say that

1245
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000
 today?

1246
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
 But now, because the city cannot

1247
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,000
 require any studies or analyses

1248
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000
 other than very limited kinds of

1249
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000
 information, we again asked for

1250
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
 that information at the zoning

1251
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,000
 compliance plan stage.

1252
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000
 Okay.

1253
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,000
 >> Sorry, I'm going to butt in.

1254
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000
 Just for our remembrance, is the

1255
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
 zoning compliance plan prior to

1256
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
 or after final Plaid?

1257
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,000
 >> The zoning compliance plan

1258
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,000
 prior to final Plaid.

1259
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
 >> For a by-right development,

1260
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000
 that will be their first

1261
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000
 application.

1262
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000
 This is the zoning compliance

1263
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
 plan.

1264
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000
 Chair, you might be the only one

1265
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
 who recalls that a residential

1266
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000
 subdivision used to not have that

1267
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000
 site plan or zoning compliance

1268
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,000
 plan step.

1269
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,000
 They started with a preliminary

1270
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000
 plat.

1271
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,000
 Once this bill went into effect,

1272
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000
 that was the biggest change that

1273
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
 we made internally was making

1274
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000
 everyone now go through that

1275
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000
 site plan.

1276
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000
 So it still happens as the very

1277
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000
 first step.

1278
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000
 The exception would be if someone

1279
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000
 comes before you all with an

1280
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
 SUP or a standard plan

1281
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,000
 development that includes the

1282
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000
 plan as part of that, then that

1283
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000
 replaces that zoning compliance

1284
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,000
 plan.

1285
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
 But all of that same analysis

1286
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
 gets done with that site plan

1287
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
 review instead.

1288
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
 So it still happens as the very

1289
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,000
 first step.

1290
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000
 >> Okay.

1291
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000
 Thank you.

1292
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000
 >> Thank you, Haley.

1293
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000
 >> Can I interrupt?

1294
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
 >> Of course.

1295
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,000
 >> Can I ask a not-related kind

1296
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,000
 of related question?

1297
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000
 >> Light on me.

1298
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,000
 >> Okay.

1299
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000
 So on the former screen.

1300
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
 >> Sure.

1301
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,000
 >> When you talked about how the

1302
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
 city must publicly post the

1303
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,000
 information and documentation

1304
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
 required in the plat

1305
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000
 application.

1306
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,000
 So before -- like how easy is it

1307
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000
 for, you know, Joe on the

1308
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000
 neighborhood, you know, to find

1309
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000
 this information?

1310
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
 And I only ask because I had

1311
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
 heard rumblings that there was a

1312
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000
 very large grocery store coming

1313
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
 near my area.

1314
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000
 This was before I was on the

1315
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000
 planning and zoning.

1316
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000
 So I went on to, like, the city

1317
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000
 sites where all these are

1318
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000
 supposed to be at.

1319
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000
 And I'm putting in all the

1320
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000
 keywords like ATB, landmark,

1321
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000
 Hillwood.

1322
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
 And I couldn't find anything.

1323
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000
 It wasn't until, like, some

1324
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
 people kind of directed me and I

1325
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000
 got in where I could actually

1326
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
 find, you know, some of the plat

1327
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000
 information.

1328
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
 So when the city is required to

1329
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000
 publicly post that, like, how

1330
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000
 come it doesn't feel like it's

1331
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
 as easy to find it?

1332
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000
 >> You're kind of talking about

1333
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000
 two different things, but they're

1334
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
 both good questions.

1335
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
 So here we're talking about what

1336
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
 you have to submit in order to

1337
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000
 apply for a plat.

1338
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000
 So that's going to be, like, the

1339
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,000
 checklist, the owner

1340
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000
 information, how many blocks

1341
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
 you're doing, stuff like that.

1342
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000
 It sounds like you're talking

1343
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000
 about plats that might be in the

1344
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000
 review process or recently

1345
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000
 approved.

1346
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000
 >> Well, possibly, like, any of

1347
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000
 that stuff, because, you know,

1348
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
 like, citizens, we hear rumors

1349
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
 and you kind of want to confirm,

1350
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,000
 like, is it a rumor?

1351
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,000
 You know?

1352
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000
 >> I see.

1353
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000
 Okay.

1354
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,000
 >> Or is it, like, something that

1355
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
 is a rumor?

1356
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000
 But it's true, because most

1357
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
 rumors are not true.

1358
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000
 >> And fair enough.

1359
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000
 So that concept isn't really

1360
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
 contemplated in the bill, but it

1361
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
 is something that we do

1362
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
 continually try to improve on

1363
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000
 with, like, opting in.

1364
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000
 >> That's why I said this was a

1365
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
 not related, kind of related

1366
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
 question.

1367
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
 >> Yeah, I think you accurately

1368
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
 characterized it, indeed.

1369
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
 >> Yeah, I would say even prior

1370
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
 to this bill, the city had

1371
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
 checklists for all of our

1372
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
 applications types, so we were

1373
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
 in compliance with that

1374
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000
 requirement when they passed

1375
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
 this bill.

1376
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
 So our checklist is something we

1377
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000
 routinely go through and update

1378
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
 what those standards might be as

1379
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000
 needed.

1380
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
 Those are all, like, two to three

1381
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000
 clicks in on our website if

1382
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
 anyone wants to go find them

1383
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
 under a helpful little box on our

1384
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
 land development page that says

1385
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000
 applications and checklist.

1386
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
 They're all there, available,

1387
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
 what you're looking for is maybe

1388
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
 a little bit more difficult to

1389
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
 find.

1390
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
 I mean, we do have sources for

1391
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
 it on our website, namely our

1392
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
 GIS map that shows an active

1393
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000
 project layer.

1394
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
 So that information is there to

1395
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
 find the level of detail that

1396
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000
 you're speaking to might be a

1397
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000
 little harder because someone

1398
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,000
 would need to create an account

1399
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000
 through our eTracket system to

1400
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000
 log in and look at the plans.

1401
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000
 >> And I know that I am an

1402
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000
 oddity because of my

1403
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
 profession, so I look at things,

1404
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000
 you know, with a little bit

1405
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000
 different than your average

1406
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000
 citizen, but, you know, it's

1407
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000
 just -- I was always just very

1408
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000
 curious.

1409
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
 Like, sometimes I feel when we

1410
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000
 talk about, like,

1411
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
 communication or transparency,

1412
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000
 things are kind of buried.

1413
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000
 Like, there's lots of layers

1414
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
 that you have to go through, and

1415
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000
 you kind of have to know how to

1416
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
 go through the layers.

1417
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000
 >> Sure.

1418
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000
 After we're finished with this

1419
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
 part, we can walk through the

1420
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
 GIS mapping and how to play with

1421
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
 it a little bit.

1422
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000
 >> Okay.

1423
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
 >> Would that --

1424
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
 >> I mean, maybe, but I was

1425
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000
 just -- I'm just asking more

1426
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000
 for, like, your average citizen

1427
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000
 when they hear -- you know, if

1428
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
 all of this is supposed to be

1429
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000
 public at some point, how does

1430
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
 the average citizen find the

1431
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
 information when you're looking

1432
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000
 for, like, a main word, but

1433
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
 maybe that's not the main word

1434
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000
 that is used to pull up, you

1435
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000
 know?

1436
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000
 >> Right.

1437
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000
 So the non-answer answer,

1438
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,000
 unfortunately, is, like, if

1439
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000
 you're really curious about,

1440
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
 like, you know, hey, something

1441
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
 is happening on the corner of

1442
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
 Oak and Elm, and I don't know

1443
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000
 what it is.

1444
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
 I don't know how to describe it,

1445
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000
 but I think something's

1446
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
 happening.

1447
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000
 You know, at that point, it's

1448
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
 totally appropriate for them to

1449
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000
 call the department.

1450
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000
 >> Absolutely.

1451
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000
 >> Yeah.

1452
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,000
 >> Okay.

1453
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,000
 Thank you.

1454
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000
 >> I would say I don't think

1455
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000
 this bill necessarily speaks to

1456
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000
 requirements for specific plats

1457
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,000
 to be made publicly available

1458
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,000
 anyway.

1459
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,000
 >> No, no, no.

1460
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
 >> It is strictly speaking to

1461
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
 what a city has to publish so

1462
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000
 that someone knows how to submit

1463
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000
 a plat and what information they

1464
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
 have to put on it.

1465
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,000
 >> Right, because some cities

1466
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
 we're running into, like, hey,

1467
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
 here's -- here's -- here's a

1468
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
 complete plat application, and

1469
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
 then the city official might be

1470
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000
 like, haha, but you didn't

1471
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000
 include the -- the Dippity-Doo

1472
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000
 on the form Q.

1473
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000
 You gave it on a form T, and

1474
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,000
 therefore you're rejected.

1475
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
 Like, no, we need to be

1476
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000
 transparent.

1477
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000
 >> I have a question over here.

1478
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000
 >> Yeah.

1479
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000
 >> Dippity-Doo.

1480
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000
 >> Sorry for the technical

1481
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,000
 language.

1482
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,000
 >> I do love that.

1483
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000
 I think what Commissioner Dyer

1484
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000
 was getting ready to say was

1485
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000
 that she -- and I believe we've

1486
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000
 talked about this in our public

1487
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000
 image, public relations

1488
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
 materials, notifying the public

1489
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,000
 about the use of social media.

1490
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,000
 >> Well, for that wasn't

1491
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000
 necessarily social media, but

1492
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000
 when you hear a strong rumor

1493
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,000
 that a major grocery store is

1494
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
 coming to a certain area, and

1495
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
 like, I would click on the map,

1496
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
 too, and it just seems like I

1497
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
 just couldn't figure out how to

1498
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
 access, you know, between going

1499
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
 to the city and finding the GIS

1500
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
 and, you know, finding all that,

1501
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000
 and you are correct.

1502
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000
 There was -- I did get to a

1503
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
 screen where I needed project

1504
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000
 numbers and stuff.

1505
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
 Well, I don't -- I don't know a

1506
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
 project number, you know, and I

1507
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
 was putting in all -- to me, all

1508
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
 the right words where I was

1509
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
 landmark, you know, Hillwood,

1510
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
 HEB, you know, and it just --

1511
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
 none of it was coming up with

1512
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,000
 anything, so.

1513
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
 >> Comment again, and we're

1514
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
 having a conversation.

1515
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
 >> Absolutely.

1516
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
 >> But I guess what I would

1517
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
 suggest or comment on is that

1518
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
 how to do this --

1519
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
 >> Oh, yes, yes.

1520
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
 >> -- might be on social media

1521
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
 in terms of City of Denton.

1522
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000
 >> Well, I am a --

1523
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,000
 >> I think we had talked about

1524
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,000
 a how-to kind of thing.

1525
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
 >> I am a big proponent of

1526
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000
 using social media to, you know,

1527
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
 I've seen the ones where we've

1528
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
 got some citizen who's like a

1529
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
 Mr. Rogers, and, you know,

1530
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000
 that's out and about, but

1531
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000
 sometimes I feel like some of

1532
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
 the important stuff is not there,

1533
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
 but, yeah, you know, it would be

1534
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
 kind of cool, a how-to, like a

1535
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
 City of Denton how-to, like how

1536
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
 to find a project, you know, in

1537
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
 your area, how to do this.

1538
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
 Is that kind of what you're

1539
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000
 thinking, like?

1540
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
 >> Well, I was encouraging you

1541
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
 to continue with a conversation,

1542
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
 but, yes, FIQ is we just got

1543
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
 through at our big meeting, you

1544
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,000
 know, frequently asked

1545
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000
 questions.

1546
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
 >> Yeah.

1547
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
 >> But I do think those kinds of

1548
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
 things would be helpful.

1549
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
 >> Because I think that you --

1550
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
 I mean, and we're getting a

1551
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
 little bit off topic.

1552
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000
 >> A little bit.

1553
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000
 >> But I do see, like, in the

1554
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
 chatter where, you know, people

1555
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
 -- things have been in front of

1556
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
 the planning and zoning or

1557
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,000
 things have been in front of the

1558
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000
 city, and they're like, well,

1559
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
 how did we know?

1560
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
 Like, we didn't know that we

1561
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
 should, like, be going to these

1562
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
 meetings, and it's not just

1563
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
 here.

1564
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000
 Like, it's another -- you know,

1565
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000
 I see it in other cities, too.

1566
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000
 It's not a Denton thing, but --

1567
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000
 >> Okay.

1568
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000
 I'm picking up what you're

1569
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
 putting down.

1570
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
 And so, Commissioner Dyer, I'm

1571
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
 going to suggest that maybe it

1572
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000
 might be appropriate for

1573
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,000
 concluding items to talk about

1574
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,000
 some kind of item for how to --

1575
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000
 >> If you're interested, we'd

1576
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000
 be happy to come back with a

1577
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000
 work session that shows you all

1578
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000
 how to locate all of that stuff

1579
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
 and then certainly have heard

1580
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000
 your feedback, and we can take

1581
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
 that to those who are more

1582
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
 technologically savvy than

1583
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,000
 myself and figure out how to

1584
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
 post some sort of FAQ on our

1585
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
 website for that topic.

1586
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000
 >> And, frankly, that video of

1587
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000
 how to locate information is

1588
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
 something that is recorded and

1589
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
 available on the website under,

1590
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,000
 like, the prior public meetings

1591
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
 and such.

1592
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,000
 So that could even be a

1593
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,000
 shareable resource.

1594
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,000
 >> Absolutely.

1595
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
 You just -- you know, whoever

1596
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000
 manages the city's social media

1597
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
 pages, you just -- hey, have you

1598
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000
 ever wondered how to find a

1599
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000
 project?

1600
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
 Well, here you go.

1601
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
 Awesome.

1602
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000
 And so I'm going to --

1603
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,000
 >> Yeah, sorry.

1604
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,000
 >> No, I think it was a valuable

1605
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000
 discussion, but, like, you know,

1606
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,000
 I hear there's olive gardens, so

1607
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,000
 I want to keep this on track.

1608
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
 Anyway, so the meat of the bill

1609
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
 for our purposes today is the

1610
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
 text that I've shown on screen,

1611
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
 basically saying that the

1612
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
 municipal authority may not

1613
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,000
 require dedication of land for a

1614
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
 future street or alley if the

1615
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
 owner doesn't want to or if we

1616
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
 don't have it funded and

1617
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
 approved in a capital

1618
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
 improvement plan or if it's -- or

1619
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000
 a similar plan by the county.

1620
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
 So that's kind of big language.

1621
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
 It's big talk.

1622
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
 And so that's why Chair Peru was

1623
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
 reasonably like, hey, what --

1624
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000
 what should we do with this?

1625
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
 And so the next slides, we'll

1626
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000
 talk more about that.

1627
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,000
 So what did we do about this?

1628
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000
 So as we've already discussed,

1629
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,000
 we basically moved the plat

1630
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000
 application studies and analysis

1631
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,000
 requests to the zone and

1632
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000
 compliance plan stage.

1633
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
 And since we've made everyone do

1634
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
 the zone and compliance plan, we

1635
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
 don't really -- we've made the

1636
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000
 preliminary plat an optional

1637
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
 step.

1638
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,000
 Okay.

1639
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000
 So right-of-ways are based on

1640
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,000
 the mobility plan and are

1641
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000
 informed by the proposed

1642
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000
 development.

1643
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
 They are also an exaction.

1644
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
 So staff has processes and

1645
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
 checklists to make sure these

1646
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
 requests are proportional to the

1647
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000
 proposed development.

1648
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000
 There were some really, like,

1649
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000
 vocabulary-dense words in there.

1650
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
 Does anyone want a recap of what

1651
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000
 an exaction is or why

1652
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000
 proportionality is important?

1653
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,000
 No shade.

1654
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000
 Cool.

1655
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000
 You would like a recap?

1656
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
 Okay.

1657
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000
 So an exaction is basically a

1658
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000
 development concession,

1659
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
 essentially, that a city requires

1660
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
 an exchange for development

1661
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
 approval.

1662
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,000
 For example, in this context,

1663
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
 hey, your building is going to

1664
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
 cause 100 more cars to be on the

1665
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
 road day in and day out.

1666
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000
 Therefore, we need you to improve

1667
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
 a turn lane so that congestion is

1668
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000
 managed.

1669
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
 That is likely proportional

1670
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
 because the amount of money and

1671
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
 time we're asking them to spend on

1672
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
 making the turn lane improvement

1673
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
 is about similar to how much

1674
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,000
 burden they're putting on our

1675
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000
 transportation system.

1676
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000
 However, if we said, hey, you're

1677
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
 adding 100 new drivers to this

1678
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
 street, we would like you to

1679
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,000
 build us a library.

1680
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000
 That's unrelated and out of

1681
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000
 proportion, and it would be

1682
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000
 inappropriate.

1683
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000
 Now, of course, those are two

1684
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,000
 examples, and there's a lot of

1685
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000
 gray in the middle, and that's

1686
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
 why I have a job, and that's why

1687
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,000
 staff has robust checklists and

1688
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
 processes to pressure test

1689
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000
 exaction requests.

1690
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000
 So in the event that staff and

1691
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,000
 the applicant are crosswise about

1692
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
 a right-of-way request, there are

1693
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,000
 a few ways that we can go about

1694
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000
 changing it.

1695
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000
 We can do a mobility plan

1696
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000
 amendment to either increase or

1697
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
 decrease the road

1698
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
 classification, and as we saw in

1699
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
 our example, that can change how

1700
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
 wide the dedication would need to

1701
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000
 be.

1702
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000
 If the developer thinks that we

1703
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
 are asking for a library when we

1704
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
 should be asking for a turn lane,

1705
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
 they can do something called the

1706
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
 exaction, proportionality,

1707
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000
 determination, and appeal, which

1708
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000
 doesn't really happen because we

1709
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
 don't ask for libraries if

1710
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,000
 they're not warranted.

1711
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
 And then finally, we can do a

1712
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
 development agreement as

1713
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
 authorized under Chapter 212 of

1714
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
 the Local Government Code to

1715
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000
 memorialize a negotiated

1716
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000
 solution.

1717
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,000
 So these facts backing up, so

1718
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
 that's the context for why we're

1719
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
 not actually too worried about

1720
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
 this language.

1721
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
 Generally speaking, an owner

1722
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
 who's putting in a multifamily

1723
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
 development is going to

1724
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000
 understand, you know what, my

1725
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
 residents will need a way to get

1726
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
 to the main street.

1727
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
 I guess that's legit.

1728
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
 And further, we're just not

1729
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
 running into challenges.

1730
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000
 So that's pretty squared away.

1731
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000
 Yo.

1732
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
 >> So where I've kind of run

1733
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
 into this in the past, like you

1734
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
 have a development and they're

1735
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000
 abutting, say, a two-lane road,

1736
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
 but it's on the mobility plan to

1737
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000
 be a primary arterial.

1738
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000
 And so their proportionate share

1739
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
 is maybe they do just need to add

1740
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
 a turn lane, but we can't require

1741
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
 them to build the full primary

1742
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000
 arterial section.

1743
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000
 >> That's true.

1744
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
 >> So that's really where it

1745
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000
 kind of comes into play as

1746
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000
 opposed to like a library, right?

1747
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000
 >> Right, exactly.

1748
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,000
 >> Okay.

1749
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,000
 >> Right.

1750
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
 So in that instance, we could do

1751
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000
 any number of things.

1752
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
 We could say, like, look, you

1753
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000
 know, this is on the mobility

1754
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
 plan to go to the next higher

1755
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
 roadway classification.

1756
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
 Whenever that does happen,

1757
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
 we're going to be visiting you

1758
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
 for an easement at that time,

1759
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
 and we can take care of it now

1760
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000
 with more roadway impact fee

1761
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000
 credits, or we can take care of

1762
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,000
 it later, that kind of thing.

1763
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000
 That's how I typically handle

1764
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000
 it.

1765
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000
 Yo.

1766
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
 >> Okay.

1767
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000
 So I have another related, but

1768
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000
 maybe it's unrelated question.

1769
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
 >> Let's do it.

1770
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
 >> Okay.

1771
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,000
 So when we're looking at kind

1772
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000
 of your example about, you know,

1773
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000
 a development or businesses that

1774
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000
 are bringing increased traffic

1775
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,000
 to an area, and this HB 3699 was

1776
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
 written by the state legislator,

1777
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
 and TxDOT is a state agency.

1778
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,000
 How come there is not more

1779
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000
 collaborative work effort to

1780
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000
 make sure, because we hear a lot

1781
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000
 with everything that's coming in

1782
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
 our area with all this

1783
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000
 development, and how the roads

1784
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000
 are not keeping up with it.

1785
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000
 So if the state is wanting us to

1786
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
 do all of this, and we have all

1787
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000
 of this increase, but yet we

1788
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
 seem to be missing something

1789
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
 from TxDOT to keep up with the

1790
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000
 demand, why can't -- like, where

1791
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
 is the -- where is the missing

1792
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000
 piece there?

1793
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
 And maybe you can't even address

1794
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000
 that, but --

1795
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
 >> So the context here is in

1796
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
 cities approving plats.

1797
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
 And I think -- I've only worked

1798
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000
 in Denton, but it's my

1799
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
 understanding that Denton has a

1800
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
 pretty high amount of TxDOT

1801
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000
 roads.

1802
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000
 So we have more than is typical

1803
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000
 for, I think, municipalities of

1804
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000
 our size.

1805
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000
 Haley's nodding.

1806
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,000
 That always makes me feel

1807
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,000
 better.

1808
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
 So that's why our investment, I

1809
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000
 guess, with TxDOT feels more so

1810
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000
 because it is.

1811
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,000
 >> But you look at some of the

1812
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000
 big housing developments that

1813
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
 have been approved over the past

1814
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
 few years or recently, and you

1815
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
 hear in the public comments

1816
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
 about the citizens' concerns

1817
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
 about the roadways and this and

1818
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,000
 that.

1819
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,000
 And I know that they're not

1820
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,000
 coming tomorrow.

1821
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,000
 >> Sure.

1822
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,000
 >> You know, some of these

1823
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000
 communities are being built

1824
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
 over a, you know, five-year,

1825
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
 10-year, 20-, 40-year build

1826
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000
 process.

1827
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
 But still, you know, there just

1828
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
 seems to be -- nobody -- not

1829
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000
 everybody seems to be on the

1830
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,000
 same page.

1831
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,000
 >> Okay.

1832
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,000
 And you know what?

1833
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000
 I think that is a fair

1834
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
 statement, and the explanation

1835
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,000
 for that, at least in the

1836
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
 context of this discussion, is

1837
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
 that TxDOT isn't usually a

1838
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
 party to a private developer

1839
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000
 applying for a plat, and then

1840
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,000
 the city --

1841
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,000
 >> But I guess in my mind, if

1842
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000
 the state's saying you have to

1843
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
 do this, and TxDOT is a state

1844
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000
 agency, and so the city is

1845
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
 having to abide by this, like,

1846
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000
 shouldn't TxDOT now also -- you

1847
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,000
 know, and maybe this is more

1848
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000
 something we just talk with our

1849
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
 state legislators about.

1850
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000
 >> Yeah, I think we're in that

1851
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,000
 territory, because it's like,

1852
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000
 yeah, that would make sense.

1853
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,000
 That's not the world we live in

1854
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,000
 today, though.

1855
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
 >> Maybe I'm misunderstanding,

1856
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
 but my understanding of this is

1857
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
 that these are the things --

1858
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000
 these are the limitations on the

1859
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,000
 city on what we can require a

1860
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,000
 private developer to do in the

1861
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,000
 process of doing their

1862
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
 development, right?

1863
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,000
 We don't have any purview to

1864
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000
 require TxDOT to do anything,

1865
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
 right?

1866
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:30,000
 And so we can do these for city

1867
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,000
 of Denton roads, right, roadways,

1868
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,000
 future right-of-ways.

1869
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
 We can't do these for TxDOT

1870
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
 roads, and that's a separate

1871
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,000
 government entity.

1872
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,000
 Is that a fair statement?

1873
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,000
 >> Yeah, I was going to say, for

1874
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
 the purposes of platting, while

1875
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
 you will see, like, certainly

1876
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
 identify adjacent TxDOT roadways

1877
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
 on plans, as the city, we can't

1878
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
 even tell someone, hey, we know

1879
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
 TxDOT plans to widen this road

1880
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
 to this width.

1881
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,000
 You should go ahead and dedicate

1882
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000
 that right-of-way, because it's

1883
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000
 just not our role and not our

1884
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,000
 purview.

1885
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
 TxDOT -- it's on them to come in

1886
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,000
 when they are ready to actually

1887
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,000
 do that project to acquire the

1888
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000
 right-of-way that they need and

1889
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,000
 that sort of thing.

1890
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000
 So while the city works

1891
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,000
 collaboratively with TxDOT as

1892
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
 best we can, our transportation

1893
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000
 services team meets with them on

1894
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,000
 a monthly or every other week

1895
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000
 basis to discuss projects, we in

1896
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
 reality have very little ability

1897
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
 to influence how their projects

1898
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,000
 get funded and what timeline

1899
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,000
 they occur on.

1900
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
 >> And I will say that usually

1901
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000
 the applications that come before

1902
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,000
 us where there's an adjacent

1903
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
 TxDOT roadway, there's pretty

1904
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
 good collaboration between the

1905
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,000
 applicant and TxDOT, because

1906
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000
 they need that collaboration in

1907
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
 order to get the right to have

1908
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
 access from that roadway, to

1909
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
 have a curb cut.

1910
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000
 The things where everybody's

1911
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000
 kind of looking at the cloud

1912
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
 saying, I don't know who's going

1913
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
 to do this, are things where

1914
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,000
 maybe there's offsite

1915
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000
 improvements that would be

1916
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000
 necessary as a result, right?

1917
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
 And there's no trigger in that

1918
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000
 that I'm aware of, because even

1919
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,000
 when we do a development

1920
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000
 agreement, we don't have any

1921
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
 ability to influence what we can

1922
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000
 try to influence, but we don't

1923
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
 have any ability to require any

1924
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
 development agreement, something

1925
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,000
 that TxDOT does, because it's

1926
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,000
 between the city and the

1927
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,000
 developer.

1928
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,000
 >> Right.

1929
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000
 And so to further refine the

1930
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,000
 scope of what we're talking

1931
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
 about here, this language here

1932
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
 just says that we cannot

1933
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
 condition plat approval on a

1934
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000
 dedication of roadway unless it

1935
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
 meets these two things.

1936
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
 And our position is that we're

1937
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000
 not conditioning plat approval

1938
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
 on that.

1939
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
 They've already agreed through

1940
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,000
 the zoning compliance plan or

1941
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,000
 the SEP or plan development

1942
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
 district that these

1943
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
 dedications are appropriate, and

1944
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000
 we're just reflecting that on

1945
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,000
 the plat.

1946
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
 So we've already talked about

1947
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000
 this slide.

1948
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000
 And we've already talked about

1949
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000
 this slide.

1950
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000
 Excellent.

1951
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000
 So did we experience

1952
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,000
 complications from the bill?

1953
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,000
 No, not really.

1954
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000
 And yeah, existing -- sorry,

1955
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,000
 Haley, you can speak to this,

1956
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
 but basically any of the

1957
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
 complications we ran into were

1958
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
 from just typical code change

1959
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
 stuff.

1960
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,000
 Okay.

1961
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000
 The process remains the same.

1962
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,000
 We just moved it from where and

1963
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000
 when in the process.

1964
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,000
 I'm on a couple of attorney

1965
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,000
 listservs, and this hasn't come

1966
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,000
 up.

1967
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
 I've actually had someone ask,

1968
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
 hey, has this come up?

1969
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
 And generally speaking, well,

1970
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,000
 the answer was no.

1971
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000
 And the rationale is thought to

1972
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
 be that developers basically

1973
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,000
 understand, like, hey, yeah, I

1974
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,000
 get it.

1975
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
 I need a road to connect my

1976
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000
 subdivision to the main drag.

1977
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000
 What does this mean for y'all?

1978
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
 It means that I hope as a result

1979
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,000
 of this work session you have a

1980
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
 better understanding of how

1981
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000
 roadway dedication works.

1982
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000
 But platts are still a

1983
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,000
 ministerial approval.

1984
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000
 So if you wish to vote against a

1985
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
 plat, this is just a generic

1986
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000
 extra reminder because I love to

1987
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000
 remind y'all of things.

1988
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
 State the criteria for approval

1989
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000
 that you think staff missed, and

1990
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
 then explain why you think staff

1991
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,000
 missed that.

1992
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,000
 Whenever you can give a reason

1993
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000
 for voting, it makes my little

1994
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000
 parliamentary and heart happy,

1995
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000
 so thank you.

1996
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,000
 When you're looking at a plat

1997
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000
 that staff is recommending for

1998
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000
 approval, you can be assured

1999
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,000
 that staff's existing right-of-way

2000
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
 procedures are working pretty

2001
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,000
 well, or the plat wouldn't be in

2002
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,000
 front of you yet.

2003
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,000
 Yeah.

2004
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
 So sometimes we may have a

2005
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
 plat that's delayed for a

2006
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000
 development agreement that

2007
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,000
 relates to a right-of-way

2008
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,000
 dedication or timing of work

2009
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000
 being done.

2010
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000
 There's one whose name I can't

2011
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,000
 remember, but you've extended it

2012
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
 two or three times already.

2013
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
 And it's because there's two

2014
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
 parcels next to each other that

2015
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000
 both have improvements that they

2016
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
 need to do, but because of their

2017
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
 development timing, it makes

2018
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000
 sense for personal aide to do A

2019
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
 and B at the same time, and so

2020
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
 we're waiting for parcels A and

2021
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000
 B to decide how they want to

2022
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
 handle that.

2023
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
 But in the meantime, staff can't

2024
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,000
 come before you and say

2025
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
 right-of-way, squared away.

2026
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000
 So that's why you haven't seen

2027
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
 the plat for approval.

2028
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
 Oh.

2029
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
 And that's the end.

2030
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000
 I thought I had a question slide,

2031
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
 but apparently I did not.

2032
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,000
 >> We're supposed to ask

2033
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
 questions and pirate jokes in

2034
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000
 between.

2035
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,000
 >> Okay.

2036
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
 So why couldn't the 12-year-old

2037
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
 pirate get into the new pirate

2038
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
 movie?

2039
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,000
 It was rated R.

2040
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
 One more.

2041
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000
 What is the pirate's favorite

2042
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,000
 letter of the alphabet?

2043
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,000
 No, for his true love be the C.

2044
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000
 Thank you.

2045
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,000
 I'll show myself out.

2046
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000
 >> That's pretty good.

2047
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,000
 Thank you.

2048
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,000
 One question I had on this is I

2049
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:10,000
 know that in the 2020/2022

2050
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,000
 mobility plan, we kind of pulled

2051
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,000
 off the collector roadways from

2052
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000
 the mobility plan map because my

2053
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000
 interpretation was that we had

2054
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
 learned that we're not very good

2055
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,000
 at drawing those lines

2056
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,000
 specifically where they should

2057
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,000
 go ahead of time.

2058
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:35,000
 And so I wonder -- I take it that

2059
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000
 the choice of how many collector

2060
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,000
 roadways and where they should

2061
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,000
 go is a professional discussion

2062
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000
 between the applicant and staff

2063
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
 and that sort of thing because

2064
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,000
 they're not clearly identified

2065
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000
 on the map.

2066
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,000
 And I wasn't sure whether HB3699

2067
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,000
 was creating any barriers to

2068
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,000
 good resolutions to those

2069
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,000
 conversations.

2070
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,000
 Does that make sense?

2071
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,000
 >> Let's say I don't believe

2072
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,000
 we've had any challenges with

2073
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,000
 that.

2074
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,000
 There is still language

2075
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000
 preserved in the mobility plan

2076
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000
 itself that speaks to, you know,

2077
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000
 once certain thresholds are hit,

2078
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,000
 staff can still identify the

2079
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
 need for collectors in certain

2080
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,000
 areas to support the traffic.

2081
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,000
 So generally it is just that

2082
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000
 kind of open discussion and

2083
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,000
 negotiation with developers when

2084
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,000
 they come in to lay out a new

2085
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,000
 subdivision or a new, you know,

2086
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,000
 multi-lot commercial development

2087
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
 of like, hey, at this point you've

2088
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
 hit X number of trips and you

2089
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,000
 really do need a wider road to

2090
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,000
 support that.

2091
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,000
 So it's just part of that

2092
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
 negotiation and work on the front

2093
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,000
 end of a project.

2094
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
 >> Okay.

2095
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,000
 Good to hear.

2096
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
 Any other questions?

2097
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,000
 Commissioner Riggs.

2098
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,000
 >> Yeah, I just have a comment.

2099
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000
 I know what some communities have

2100
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000
 done in relation to this bill is

2101
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,000
 they've actually said, well,

2102
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
 since we can't require you to

2103
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
 dedicate it as part of the plat,

2104
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,000
 we'll ask you to set it aside as

2105
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
 a separate lot that then the city

2106
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000
 can come back and purchase in the

2107
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,000
 future.

2108
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,000
 So I think it's really smart that

2109
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000
 we moved it to the zoning because

2110
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,000
 that would be the alternative.

2111
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,000
 >> That sounds awful.

2112
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,000
 >> Yeah.

2113
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,000
 >> Cool.

2114
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,000
 >> All right.

2115
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
 I'm not seeing -- oh, no, not

2116
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
 seeing anything else.

2117
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,000
 That is all of our work sessions.

2118
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:34,000
 So at 6.04 p.m., I will close

2119
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,000
 this work session.

2120
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000
 We will reconvene in council

2121
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
 chambers at 6.30 p.m.

2122
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,000
 Thank you.

2123
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,000
 >> Good evening.

2124
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,000
 At 6.33 p.m., this Wednesday

2125
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000
 March 18th, we will call the

2126
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,000
 regular meeting of the city of

2127
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
 Denton planning and zoning

2128
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,000
 commission to order with the

2129
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000
 quorum present.

2130
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
 Our first item of business is to

2131
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
 stand and say the pledge of

2132
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000
 allegiance to the U.S. and Texas

2133
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,000
 flag.

2134
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000
 >> I pledge allegiance to the

2135
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000
 flag of the United States of

2136
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000
 America and to the republic for

2137
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000
 which it stands, one nation,

2138
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
 under God, indivisible, with

2139
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,000
 liberty and justice for all.

2140
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000
 >> Honor the Texas flag.

2141
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
 I pledge allegiance to the

2142
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,000
 Texas one state, under God, one

2143
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:38,000
 indivisible.

2144
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:45,000
 >> That brings us to item 2A,

2145
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,000
 PZ26-38, consider approval of

2146
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
 the planning and zoning minutes

2147
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,000
 from the February 25th meeting.

2148
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
 Open the floor for a motion.

2149
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000
 Commissioner Biggs.

2150
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,000
 >> I make a motion to approve.

2151
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
 >> And commissioner Mcduff.

2152
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
 >> I second that motion.

2153
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000
 >> Motion and second on the

2154
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,000
 board.

2155
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000
 I don't see anybody with any

2156
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,000
 other questions.

2157
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
 So I'm going to turn it back over

2158
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
 to commissioner Mcduff for a

2159
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:28,000
 vote.

2160
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,000
 It looked like it started to go

2161
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
 because the motion moved up into

2162
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:41,000
 the text.

2163
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
 If it's easier, we can redo the

2164
00:55:43,000 --> 00:56:06,000
 buttons.

2165
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000
 No, the board looks like it's

2166
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,000
 cleared.

2167
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000
 Would it help if we tried that

2168
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:20,000
 again?

2169
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:31,000
 There we go.

2170
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2171
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,000
 Brings us to our consent agenda.

2172
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,000
 One item on the consent agenda.

2173
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,000
 Do we have any motion or discussion

2174
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,000
 on 3A FP25-33A?

2175
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,000
 Commissioner Mcduff.

2176
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,000
 >> Yes, approval of this proposal

2177
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,000
 with the Robert Harris final

2178
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,000
 plan.

2179
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,000
 >> And commissioner Riggs.

2180
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,000
 >> I second.

2181
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,000
 >> Not seeing any discussion.

2182
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:18,000
 I call for a vote on the board.

2183
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2184
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,000
 Brings us to our items for

2185
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:31,000
 individual consideration.

2186
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,000
 4A FP26-2A.

2187
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,000
 >> Evening, chair.

2188
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,000
 Members of the commission, Mia

2189
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,000
 Hines, senior planner.

2190
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
 This item is a final plan for

2191
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,000
 Hickory Grove phase 5, which is

2192
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,000
 an approximately 87.645 acre site

2193
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
 generally located at the

2194
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000
 southwest corner of Jackson Road

2195
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000
 in the city of Thenton, ZTJ

2196
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,000
 division 1.

2197
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,000
 At this time, the plan is not

2198
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,000
 meeting all of our criteria for

2199
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,000
 approval.

2200
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,000
 So staff is recommending denial

2201
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000
 of the final plan at this time.

2202
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
 However, we have no objection to

2203
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
 the requested second extension

2204
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,000
 to a date certain of April 8,

2205
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
 2026.

2206
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,000
 With that, I'll stand for any

2207
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,000
 questions.

2208
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,000
 >> Thank you.

2209
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,000
 Commissioner Dyer.

2210
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,000
 >> I would like to go ahead and

2211
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,000
 make a motion that we deny this

2212
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
 for tonight but grant the

2213
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
 extension for the April 8th

2214
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
 meeting.

2215
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,000
 >> And commissioner Ketchers

2216
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,000
 said?

2217
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,000
 >> I second that motion.

2218
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,000
 >> Not seeing any discussion.

2219
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:45,000
 Call for a vote on the board.

2220
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2221
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:58,000
 Brings us to 4B, FP26-3A.

2222
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,000
 >> This item is a final plan

2223
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
 for Hickory Grove phase 6

2224
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,000
 located or approximately

2225
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,000
 66.521 acres located at the

2226
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,000
 southeast corner of Jackson

2227
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,000
 Road and Nail Road.

2228
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,000
 Similarly, at this time, the

2229
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,000
 plan is not meeting all of our

2230
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,000
 criteria for approval, so we are

2231
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,000
 recommending denial.

2232
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,000
 However, we have no objection to

2233
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
 the requested extension to a date

2234
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,000
 certain of April 8, 2026.

2235
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
 With that, I'll stand for any

2236
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,000
 questions.

2237
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,000
 >> Thank you.

2238
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000
 Commissioner Dyer.

2239
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,000
 >> I would like to make a motion

2240
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,000
 that we go ahead and grant the

2241
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000
 extension for April 8th.

2242
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,000
 >> Commissioner Ketchers said?

2243
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000
 >> I second that motion.

2244
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,000
 >> Not seeing any discussion.

2245
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
 Call for a vote on the board.

2246
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:47,000
 Any discussion?

2247
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,000
 That passes 5-0.

2248
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:57,000
 4C, FP26-6.

2249
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,000
 >> Good evening, Chair, members

2250
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,000
 of the commission.

2251
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,000
 Angie Mangleris, assistant

2252
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,000
 planning director.

2253
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
 This is FP26-6, final plan for

2254
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,000
 Bridal Ridge.

2255
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
 This is approximately a 66.6

2256
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
 acre tract of land generally

2257
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000
 located north of Johnson Lane

2258
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
 and approximately 2400 feet east

2259
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,000
 of John Payne Road.

2260
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
 The purpose of this plot is to

2261
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000
 establish 210 single-family

2262
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,000
 residential lots.

2263
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,000
 At this time, the final plot does

2264
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,000
 not meet our criteria for

2265
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,000
 approval, but staff has no

2266
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,000
 objection to the requested

2267
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,000
 extension, which could be

2268
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,000
 granted to April 8th.

2269
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000
 Happy to answer any questions.

2270
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,000
 >> Thank you.

2271
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,000
 Commissioner Riggs.

2272
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,000
 >> I make a motion to grant an

2273
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000
 extension to April 8th.

2274
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
 >> Commissioner MacDuff.

2275
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,000
 >> I'd like to second that

2276
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000
 motion.

2277
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,000
 >> Not seeing any discussion.

2278
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:49,000
 Call for a vote on the board.

2279
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,000
 That item passes 5-0, brings us

2280
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,000
 to 4E, FP26-5.

2281
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,000
 >> Good evening, Julie Wyatt,

2282
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,000
 principal planner.

2283
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,000
 >> Sorry.

2284
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,000
 I called the wrong item.

2285
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,000
 It's FP26-8.

2286
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,000
 >> Julie Wyatt, principal

2287
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,000
 planner.

2288
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,000
 And this item is a final plot

2289
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,000
 for a charter school.

2290
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,000
 The property is located on the

2291
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,000
 south side of Vintage Road, just

2292
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,000
 east of I-35W.

2293
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,000
 At this time, it does not meet

2294
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,000
 the criteria for approval.

2295
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,000
 However, staff has -- so staff

2296
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,000
 recommends denial.

2297
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,000
 However, we have no objection

2298
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,000
 to the requested extension to

2299
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,000
 April 8th, and I'll be happy to

2300
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,000
 answer any questions.

2301
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,000
 >> Thank you, Julie.

2302
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,000
 Commissioner Dyer.

2303
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,000
 >> I would like to make a

2304
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,000
 motion that we go ahead and

2305
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,000
 grant the extension for this

2306
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000
 plot to April 8th.

2307
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,000
 >> Commissioner Riggs.

2308
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,000
 >> I second.

2309
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,000
 >> Seeing no discussion, we'll

2310
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:45,000
 call for a vote on the board.

2311
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2312
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:54,000
 Now we're at 4E, FP26-5.

2313
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,000
 >> Good evening, Chair,

2314
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,000
 members of the commission,

2315
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,000
 Ashley Eckstead, associate

2316
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,000
 planner.

2317
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,000
 This is FP26-5.

2318
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,000
 This is a final plot for the

2319
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,000
 AMBE addition.

2320
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,000
 This is an approximately 2.23

2321
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,000
 acres site on the west side of

2322
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,000
 35 north of Jim Crystal.

2323
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,000
 At this time, staff has

2324
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,000
 recommended denial, but we have

2325
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,000
 no objection to the requested

2326
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,000
 extension until April 8th, 2026,

2327
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,000
 and I'm happy to answer any

2328
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,000
 questions.

2329
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,000
 >> Thank you, Ashley.

2330
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,000
 Commissioner McDuff.

2331
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,000
 >> Yes, I'd like to make a

2332
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,000
 motion for agreement with staff

2333
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,000
 and for an extension to a date

2334
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,000
 certain of April 8th, 2026.

2335
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,000
 >> And Commissioner Ketcherset.

2336
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,000
 >> I second that motion.

2337
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,000
 >> Not seeing any discussion.

2338
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,000
 I'll call for a vote on the

2339
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:45,000
 board.

2340
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,000
 That passes 5-0.

2341
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,000
 Brings us to our last item for

2342
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,000
 individual consideration for

2343
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,000
 FMR25-17.

2344
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,000
 >> Good evening, commission,

2345
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,000
 Matt Bodine, assistant planner.

2346
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,000
 Here to present a final replat

2347
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,000
 to create two lots of record

2348
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000
 data from a 9.873 acre lot

2349
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,000
 located on the east side of

2350
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,000
 North Locust, approximately

2351
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,000
 4,800 feet north of 288.

2352
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,000
 Currently does not meet our

2353
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,000
 criteria for approval.

2354
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,000
 Therefore, staff has

2355
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,000
 recommended denial, but has no

2356
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,000
 objection to their request for

2357
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,000
 an extension to April 8th.

2358
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,000
 >> Thank you.

2359
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,000
 Commissioner Ketcherset.

2360
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,000
 >> I motion to approve the

2361
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,000
 extension request to April 8th.

2362
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,000
 >> Commissioner Riggs.

2363
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,000
 >> I second.

2364
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,000
 >> Seeing no discussion, I'll

2365
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:37,000
 call for a vote on the board.

2366
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2367
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,000
 Brings us to our public

2368
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,000
 hearings.

2369
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:50,000
 Our first public hearing is

2370
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,000
 5APD26-1.

2371
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,000
 This hearing has been

2372
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,000
 requested by the applicant to

2373
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,000
 be postponed.

2374
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,000
 And I will go ahead and open

2375
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,000
 the public hearing now.

2376
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,000
 And we will leave the public

2377
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,000
 hearing open.

2378
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,000
 So if this is something you're

2379
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000
 interested in, we'll be hearing

2380
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,000
 this on April 29th in about six

2381
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,000
 weeks.

2382
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,000
 Sounds right.

2383
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:30,000
 That brings us to 5BMPA26- --

2384
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,000
 sorry.

2385
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,000
 Thank you.

2386
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,000
 Do we have -- Commissioner

2387
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:42,000
 Ketcherset, a motion to --

2388
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,000
 >> I motion to approve the

2389
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,000
 applicant's request for this to

2390
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
 be postponed to April 29th,

2391
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,000
 2026.

2392
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,000
 >> Motion to postpone.

2393
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,000
 Commissioner Dyer.

2394
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,000
 >> I will go ahead and second

2395
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,000
 that motion.

2396
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,000
 >> And seeing no discussion,

2397
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
 call for a vote on the board.

2398
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:02,000
 Motion to postpone.

2399
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2400
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:13,000
 Brings us to 5B and 5C will be

2401
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
 re-noticed.

2402
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000
 I'm not going to open the public

2403
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
 hearing at this time because of

2404
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000
 that.

2405
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,000
 But stay tuned to the

2406
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,000
 announcements on the city web

2407
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,000
 site and other avenues for when

2408
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,000
 that comes before us in the

2409
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,000
 future.

2410
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:49,000
 So that brings us to item 5DZ26-1.

2411
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,000
 >> Good evening, commission.

2412
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:56,000
 This is rezoning request Z26-1

2413
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,000
 Mayhill Road rezoning.

2414
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
 My name is Mappo Dean, assistant

2415
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
 planner.

2416
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,000
 So this is a request to rezone

2417
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000
 an approximately 1.6 acre

2418
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,000
 property from the rural

2419
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,000
 residential RR district to the

2420
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,000
 light industrial LI district.

2421
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,000
 This property is located on the

2422
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,000
 east side of Mayhill Road,

2423
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,000
 approximately 75 feet south of

2424
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,000
 Moore Street.

2425
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,000
 The property is currently being

2426
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,000
 used for nonconforming outdoor

2427
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,000
 storage development which was on

2428
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,000
 this site since prior to

2429
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,000
 annexation.

2430
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,000
 And as a note, rezoning is the

2431
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,000
 first step in bringing this

2432
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,000
 development into compliance with

2433
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,000
 the development code.

2434
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,000
 This request was reviewed

2435
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,000
 against our general and zoning

2436
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,000
 criteria for approval.

2437
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,000
 To go over a few of those in

2438
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,000
 particular, the comprehensive

2439
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,000
 plan designates this area as

2440
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,000
 industrial commerce which is

2441
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
 intended for light and heavy

2442
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,000
 industrial uses.

2443
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,000
 The LI zoning district

2444
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,000
 additionally is intended for

2445
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,000
 those light industrial employment

2446
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,000
 uses and calls out outdoor

2447
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,000
 storage as a specific example.

2448
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,000
 Why this district is chosen over

2449
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,000
 a couple others or others, one

2450
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,000
 of the reasons is that the other

2451
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,000
 district that was considered

2452
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,000
 heavy industrial is not

2453
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,000
 appropriate since this property

2454
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,000
 does not meet that district's

2455
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,000
 dimensional standards for its

2456
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,000
 lot.

2457
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,000
 Additionally, the LI zoning being

2458
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000
 on Mayhill helps serve as a

2459
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,000
 transition between the

2460
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000
 commercial uses on the west side

2461
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
 of that road to the heavy

2462
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,000
 industrial on the east.

2463
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,000
 Additionally, an SCP would be

2464
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,000
 required if the applicant wanted

2465
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,000
 to continue the outdoor storage

2466
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,000
 use to bring it into full

2467
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,000
 compliance.

2468
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,000
 This site was notified to the

2469
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,000
 public according to state and

2470
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,000
 city law.

2471
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,000
 Staff did not receive any

2472
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,000
 responses.

2473
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000
 Staff is recommending approval

2474
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000
 of the requested rezoning and

2475
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:12,000
 is here to answer any questions.

2476
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,000
 This is a public hearing, so I

2477
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,000
 will open the public hearing at

2478
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,000
 this time.

2479
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,000
 I don't have any cards to speak,

2480
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,000
 but if you would like to speak,

2481
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:36,000
 you're welcome to come up.

2482
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,000
 >> Hello, my name is Nathan

2483
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,000
 Toon, 513 West Oak Street,

2484
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,000
 Texas.

2485
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,000
 I'm the applicant.

2486
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,000
 I think Matt did a great job of

2487
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,000
 presenting the case.

2488
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,000
 Don't have anything else to add

2489
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,000
 except for maybe -- I thought as

2490
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,000
 part of this request, the SUP was

2491
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,000
 coming as part of it.

2492
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,000
 Do we have to do that separately?

2493
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,000
 Okay.

2494
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,000
 So I'm here for any questions if

2495
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,000
 you guys have them.

2496
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,000
 >> Any questions?

2497
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,000
 Commissioner Riggs?

2498
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,000
 >> So currently the use is --

2499
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,000
 what it is is basically outdoor

2500
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,000
 storage, which is basically

2501
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,000
 nonconforming, and there's --

2502
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,000
 that's fine, so I'm just curious

2503
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,000
 as to what triggered you wanting

2504
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,000
 to go for rezoning.

2505
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,000
 >> So I just purchased the

2506
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000
 property, and the use was

2507
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,000
 existing before we bought the

2508
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,000
 property.

2509
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,000
 It's leased to the Mazda Denton

2510
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,000
 dealership.

2511
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
 They're parking excess inventory

2512
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,000
 space there.

2513
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,000
 I had previously decided that

2514
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,000
 they were going to build a

2515
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,000
 service facility at their

2516
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,000
 dealership, so they lost a

2517
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,000
 pretty good amount of inventory

2518
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000
 space.

2519
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,000
 So they found this location

2520
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,000
 maybe almost two years ago, I

2521
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,000
 believe, is when the lease was

2522
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,000
 signed, and we bought the

2523
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,000
 property a few months ago and

2524
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000
 decided it was prudent to get

2525
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,000
 some zoning since there is no

2526
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,000
 zoning currently.

2527
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:16,000
 >> Any other questions?

2528
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,000
 I don't see any.

2529
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,000
 Thank you.

2530
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,000
 >> Thank you.

2531
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,000
 >> Matt, just -- when we say

2532
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,000
 there's no zoning currently,

2533
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000
 what's the current status of the

2534
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,000
 parcel?

2535
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000
 >> So it's -- the current zoning

2536
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000
 is our residential.

2537
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000
 It was established essentially

2538
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,000
 as a placeholder from annexation.

2539
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
 It hasn't changed that since

2540
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,000
 being annexed.

2541
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,000
 >> Okay.

2542
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
 Thank you.

2543
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
 This is a public hearing.

2544
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,000
 Anybody else not seeing anyone

2545
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,000
 else, I will close the public

2546
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,000
 hearing, open the floor for

2547
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000
 discussion or motion.

2548
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,000
 Commissioner McDuff.

2549
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,000
 >> I move to make a motion to

2550
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,000
 agree with staff for the

2551
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
 request for this rezoning.

2552
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,000
 >> And Commissioner Ketcherset.

2553
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,000
 >> I second that motion.

2554
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,000
 >> Okay.

2555
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,000
 Any discussion or questions?

2556
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,000
 Not seeing any.

2557
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,000
 I will call for a vote on the

2558
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,000
 board.

2559
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,000
 That item passes 5-0.

2560
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,000
 Brings us to our last public

2561
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,000
 hearing of the evening.

2562
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:40,000
 Which is -- sorry.

2563
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:46,000
 5-E DCA 26-1.

2564
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,000
 >> Good evening, planning and

2565
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,000
 zoning commission.

2566
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,000
 My name is Leah Atkinson.

2567
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,000
 I serve as the housing programs

2568
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,000
 coordinator on the community

2569
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,000
 services team.

2570
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,000
 Approximately a year ago, a

2571
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,000
 little bit longer than that,

2572
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,000
 staff came in front of this

2573
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,000
 commission to propose a new

2574
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,000
 program called the affordability

2575
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,000
 incentive program which should

2576
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,000
 be housed in section 212 of the

2577
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,000
 debt and development code.

2578
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,000
 We've been working on this

2579
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,000
 for a long time.

2580
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,000
 We've been working on this

2581
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,000
 for a long time.

2582
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,000
 We're here to propose some

2583
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,000
 amendments to that program.

2584
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,000
 So as background, the section

2585
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,000
 212 affordability incentive

2586
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,000
 program was created on October

2587
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,000
 15th of 2024.

2588
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,000
 The program offers nine

2589
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,000
 different zoning incentives for

2590
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,000
 residential developments that

2591
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,000
 commit to leasing or selling

2592
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,000
 properties.

2593
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,000
 I'm agreeing to commit some of

2594
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,000
 my homes as affordable housing

2595
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,000
 and in exchange I'd like to

2596
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,000
 access some zoning incentives.

2597
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,000
 Since the program's creation,

2598
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,000
 four multifamily developments

2599
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,000
 and two single-family

2600
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,000
 developments have applied for

2601
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000
 the incentives.

2602
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,000
 Of these applications, two of

2603
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,000
 the multifamily have moved

2604
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,000
 forward and executed contracts

2605
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,000
 and are in construction now.

2606
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,000
 They've also been applied to

2607
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,000
 single-family development.

2608
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,000
 They've also been applied to

2609
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,000
 mobile as well as the rate at

2610
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,000
 which they've been applied for

2611
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,000
 across both multifamily and

2612
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,000
 single-family developments.

2613
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,000
 So most utilized by far so far

2614
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,000
 has been the parking reduction.

2615
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,000
 Additionally, among the available

2616
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,000
 incentives is a landscaping area

2617
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,000
 point system reduction, the unit

2618
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,000
 size reduction, a building height

2619
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,000
 increase, a minimum lot area

2620
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
 height reduction, and a

2621
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,000
 remote parking reduction.

2622
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,000
 In summary, staff is committed

2623
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,000
 to evaluating this program on an

2624
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,000
 ongoing basis to ensure that it's

2625
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,000
 operating as effectively as possible.

2626
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,000
 In the years since program creation,

2627
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,000
 staff have identified four

2628
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,000
 opportunities to improve the program.

2629
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,000
 First, staff is proposing to remove

2630
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,000
 the right of first refusal requirement.

2631
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,000
 Next, staff is proposing to increase

2632
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,000
 access to the incentives by removing

2633
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,000
 the scaling qualification.

2634
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,000
 Finally, staff is proposing to

2635
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,000
 increase affordability requirements

2636
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,000
 to across the board be affordable

2637
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,000
 for Denton, meaning below our market

2638
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,000
 rate, and distinguishing between

2639
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,000
 those different rental and ownership

2640
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,000
 markets.

2641
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,000
 Lastly, staff is proposing to clarify

2642
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,000
 the affordability requirements for

2643
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,000
 small developments which have fewer

2644
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,000
 than 20 homes.

2645
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,000
 So first and foremost, staff is

2646
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,000
 proposing to remove that right of

2647
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,000
 first refusal requirement.

2648
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,000
 Staff was first proposed.

2649
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,000
 Staff included the right of

2650
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,000
 first refusal, which is a requirement

2651
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,000
 that anytime within the affordability

2652
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,000
 period, which is 30 years,

2653
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,000
 should the developer sell the property

2654
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,000
 to another operator, they would need

2655
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,000
 to offer the city the right to purchase that property

2656
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,000
 first. It was initially

2657
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,000
 included as additional protection on the

2658
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,000
 affordability. Staff has since determined that it

2659
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,000
 does very little to protect the affordability,

2660
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,000
 which is perfectly well protected by our

2661
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,000
 existing lien process.

2662
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,000
 Additionally, we found that it causes

2663
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,000
 significant administrative challenges

2664
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,000
 for developers, for their lenders, and

2665
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,000
 for city staff. For these reasons, we are

2666
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,000
 proposing to remove the requirement.

2667
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,000
 Additionally,

2668
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,000
 staff is proposing to adjust the

2669
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,000
 qualification requirements to access

2670
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,000
 this program to increase access

2671
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,000
 to the incentives and reflect the separate

2672
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,000
 market rates of local rental

2673
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,000
 and home ownership markets.

2674
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,000
 We've got a visual for this on the next slide

2675
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,000
 to dig in a little bit deeper on all of these items.

2676
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,000
 First, across the board, we are

2677
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,000
 proposing to remove those scaling qualifications

2678
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,000
 to access more incentives.

2679
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,000
 Instead, setting 15%

2680
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,000
 of all of your units being affordable

2681
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,000
 as a threshold to access any

2682
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,000
 number of incentives that might improve the project.

2683
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,000
 On the rental side,

2684
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,000
 we're looking to reduce the target income thresholds

2685
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,000
 to be entirely affordable for

2686
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,000
 Denton, meaning entirely below

2687
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,000
 Denton's market rate. On the home ownership

2688
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,000
 side, we're actually looking to increase the target

2689
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,000
 income threshold to only include 80%

2690
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,000
 AMI, as that is still

2691
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,000
 below Denton's market rate, and it increases

2692
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,000
 the financial feasibility to actually

2693
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,000
 construct affordable home ownership opportunities.

2694
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,000
 Additionally, we are

2695
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,000
 looking to align the affordability period

2696
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,000
 specifically for home ownership

2697
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,000
 projects to existing

2698
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,000
 programs that already encourage affordable home

2699
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,000
 ownership, so decreasing it from 30 years to

2700
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,000
 five years.

2701
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,000
 So this is a visual

2702
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,000
 on top of the screen. We have what

2703
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,000
 currently exists in today's DDC.

2704
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,000
 As you can see, to

2705
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,000
 access three or fewer incentives,

2706
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,000
 a threshold amount of 20%

2707
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000
 of the units in a project being

2708
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,000
 affordable is the threshold

2709
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,000
 to qualify. There are subcategories

2710
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,000
 within that. 5% of the total units

2711
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,000
 need to be set aside for

2712
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,000
 residents who are extremely low

2713
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,000
 income, meaning they're living below

2714
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,000
 30% of the area median income.

2715
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,000
 10% need to be set aside for

2716
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,000
 households at very low income,

2717
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,000
 which is 50% of the area median income,

2718
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,000
 or AMI.

2719
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,000
 And then an additional 5%

2720
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,000
 need to be set aside for households that are

2721
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,000
 low to moderate income, meaning 80%

2722
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,000
 of the AMI or below.

2723
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,000
 If a developer

2724
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,000
 wants to access more incentives,

2725
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,000
 they need to scale up the amount of affordability

2726
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,000
 that is provided,

2727
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,000
 all the way up to a maximum of 65%

2728
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,000
 as the requirement for affordability,

2729
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,000
 if they want to access up to all

2730
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,000
 nine of the incentives, in theory.

2731
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,000
 This

2732
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,000
 table does not differentiate between

2733
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,000
 rental or homeownership, and

2734
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,000
 additionally, it sets the duration of affordability as

2735
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,000
 30 years across the board.

2736
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,000
 As a few notes on this, we actually

2737
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,000
 have not received any applications requesting

2738
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,000
 more than three incentives,

2739
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,000
 so even actually

2740
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,000
 some of our applicants who would have qualified

2741
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,000
 for as many incentives as they liked

2742
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,000
 found that only two or three actually made

2743
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,000
 sense for their project at a time,

2744
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,000
 and so we have not seen a higher

2745
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,000
 usage beyond that.

2746
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,000
 Additionally,

2747
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,000
 the community services team

2748
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,000
 did conduct a work session

2749
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,000
 with city council last fall

2750
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,000
 regarding our housing tax credit program

2751
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,000
 in which we looked at our market rates

2752
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,000
 and saw that actually, especially on the

2753
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,000
 rental side, units that were set

2754
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,000
 for households that were low to

2755
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,000
 moderate income at that 80% rate

2756
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,000
 typically fell above Denton's market

2757
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,000
 rate, and so our residents

2758
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,000
 actually weren't receiving a rental reduction

2759
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,000
 from those units and those qualifications.

2760
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,000
 We're going across the board in our programs

2761
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,000
 making sure that when we set a rental reduction, or when

2762
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,000
 we set a qualification for

2763
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,000
 a program, it actually provides a cost

2764
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,000
 reduction to our residents.

2765
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,000
 For these reasons,

2766
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,000
 yeah, I think that's everything,

2767
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,000
 for these reasons we are

2768
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,000
 looking to propose the following

2769
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,000
 changes.

2770
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,000
 So on the rental side,

2771
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,000
 we're going to maintain, we're proposing to maintain

2772
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,000
 that 5%

2773
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,000
 of homes for extremely low income households

2774
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,000
 and 10% of homes for very low income

2775
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,000
 households, but eliminating that

2776
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,000
 5% of homes for low to moderate

2777
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,000
 income households that was not providing a cost

2778
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,000
 reduction for residents.

2779
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,000
 On the homeownership side, we're looking to

2780
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,000
 bring up those affordability

2781
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,000
 qualifications to

2782
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,000
 15% total at the low to moderate

2783
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,000
 income threshold,

2784
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,000
 which is entirely still below

2785
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,000
 market rate, especially when we consider that all of

2786
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,000
 these homes are going to be new construction builds.

2787
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,000
 So it's still providing a

2788
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,000
 reduction from our typical sales

2789
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,000
 prices that we see, but it allows

2790
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,000
 for a little bit more feasibility,

2791
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,000
 hopefully help this program get used

2792
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,000
 by these developments.

2793
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,000
 We are also proposing to bring that

2794
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,000
 down to five years, which aligns it

2795
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,000
 with other existing affordable homeownership

2796
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,000
 programs, such as our home buyer

2797
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,000
 assistance program and the federal

2798
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,000
 home improvements program, and also

2799
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,000
 just prevents the situation where a

2800
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,000
 debt in resident has a 30-year

2801
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,000
 city lien on their homestead,

2802
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,000
 preventing them from moving in if they should need to.

2803
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:04,000
 Lastly here, staff is proposing to clarify

2804
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,000
 the affordability qualifications for developments

2805
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,000
 that have fewer. We are qualifying these developments

2806
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,000
 in increments of 5%,

2807
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,000
 which can be difficult for staff to uniformly apply

2808
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,000
 when a development is three single-family homes.

2809
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,000
 So we want to make sure that these requirements

2810
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,000
 are clear and standard

2811
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,000
 and easy to interpret.

2812
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,000
 Additionally, in the year that this program

2813
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,000
 has existed, it has shown some early

2814
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,000
 promise in being able to

2815
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,000
 help get these smaller infill

2816
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,000
 developments built on maybe these weird

2817
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,000
 lots under the existing DDC

2818
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,000
 without needing to go through the plan development

2819
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,000
 process. So we want to preserve that and

2820
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,000
 encourage that. Staff are proposing

2821
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,000
 two new rules to make

2822
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000
 sure that the rules are clear and accessible to

2823
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,000
 small projects. First,

2824
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,000
 four projects with nine or fewer

2825
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,000
 homes. Staff is proposing to qualify

2826
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,000
 that by one unit at the highest applicable

2827
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000
 income level. As a reminder, that would be

2828
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,000
 50% AMI for rental or 80%

2829
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,000
 AMI for home ownership. And then

2830
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,000
 for projects with between 10 and 19

2831
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,000
 units, staff would qualify

2832
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,000
 that by a minimum of 15% of the

2833
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,000
 units overall, but at the highest applicable

2834
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,000
 income level rather than including units

2835
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,000
 at lower income categories.

2836
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,000
 So for example, a rental development with

2837
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,000
 19 units total would need to include

2838
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,000
 three affordable units,

2839
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,000
 which would be 16% of their total.

2840
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,000
 But all three could be at 50% AMI

2841
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,000
 rather than two at 50%

2842
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,000
 and one at 30%.

2843
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,000
 That is all the amendments that we have proposed.

2844
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,000
 Options today are to

2845
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,000
 recommend approval of the Denton Development Code text

2846
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,000
 amendments as presented, recommend

2847
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,000
 approval of the proposed amendments with conditions,

2848
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,000
 recommend denial, or postpone

2849
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,000
 to a date certain to allow for further

2850
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,000
 deliberation. Staff does recommend

2851
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,000
 approval of the

2852
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,000
 amendment as the purpose of this

2853
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,000
 amendment really is to increase

2854
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,000
 housing access in Denton.

2855
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,000
 And the ordinance does meet the criteria for code

2856
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,000
 amendments outlined in DDC Section 274D.

2857
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,000
 Thanks so much

2858
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,000
 for your time. What questions can I answer?

2859
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,000
 Thank you, Lea. I will

2860
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,000
 open the public hearing at this time

2861
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,000
 so I don't forget. Any questions of

2862
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,000
 staff?

2863
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,000
 Commissioner Ketchur said.

2864
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,000
 So

2865
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,000
 we've had five

2866
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,000
 people use...

2867
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,000
 Six have applied so far. Six have applied.

2868
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,000
 How many of those would have

2869
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,000
 built with us

2870
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,000
 anyway?

2871
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,000
 This is to encourage outside

2872
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,000
 development, basically, right?

2873
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,000
 Sure.

2874
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,000
 So, just clarifying,

2875
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,000
 we're asking how many of these were already

2876
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,000
 participating in affordability programs?

2877
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,000
 Well, right, or

2878
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,000
 like, you know, four of them were

2879
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,000
 low housing

2880
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,000
 income tax credits.

2881
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,000
 So, were they going to try

2882
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,000
 that anyway?

2883
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,000
 And they just were able to get

2884
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,000
 other incentives because

2885
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,000
 of this? Yeah, so we've had

2886
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,000
 six apply so far.

2887
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,000
 What we're doing is addressing pain points

2888
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,000
 that we've seen so far, both from those

2889
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,000
 who have actually executed these contracts

2890
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,000
 and those who are applying

2891
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,000
 to try to make it easier to access

2892
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,000
 and hopefully encourage

2893
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,000
 further and future housing tax credit projects

2894
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,000
 and other multifamily and single family

2895
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,000
 projects. So we're hoping for, like, word of mouth

2896
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,000
 on the ones that we've had already.

2897
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,000
 Yeah, essentially, and then also

2898
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,000
 additionally, staff does attend

2899
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,000
 pre-application conferences and things like that to

2900
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,000
 help make sure that word gets out about the program.

2901
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,000
 Right. I feel like it could

2902
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,000
 be a little more aggressive,

2903
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,000
 actually, in pulling in

2904
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,000
 other developers for that.

2905
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,000
 That was my question, really.

2906
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,000
 Okay.

2907
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,000
 Lea, I think, I'm not

2908
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,000
 sure what schedule it's on, but there is

2909
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,000
 a developer town hall periodic meeting,

2910
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,000
 is that correct? Is this something we've shared

2911
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,000
 with that community at that forum

2912
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,000
 before? Not this amendment specifically.

2913
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,000
 We have brought the program overall

2914
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,000
 a few different times, a few before

2915
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,000
 it was approved and then a few after it was approved.

2916
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,000
 But not this amendment specifically.

2917
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,000
 So we would imagine doing a similar

2918
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,000
 thing, giving them an update

2919
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,000
 if council goes through and approves this?

2920
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,000
 We certainly could. Okay.

2921
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,000
 Yeah.

2922
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,000
 Commissioner Dyer?

2923
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,000
 I'm going to assume that there is a waiting list

2924
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,000
 for individuals that need housing like this.

2925
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,000
 Do you know, like, how

2926
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,000
 long that waiting list is?

2927
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,000
 So I can speak a little bit. There is not

2928
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,000
 a universal one, because

2929
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,000
 a lot of these are independently operated.

2930
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,000
 The housing authority's waitlist

2931
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,000
 right now, I believe, I just

2932
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,000
 read recently, was about five years long

2933
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,000
 for their voucher program, specifically.

2934
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,000
 So we do know that these

2935
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,000
 waitlists, especially for

2936
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,000
 extremely low income households, tend to span

2937
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,000
 several years. Okay. Thank you.

2938
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,000
 Yeah. Commissioner

2939
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:44,000
 I'm just off tonight. I'm sorry.

2940
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,000
 Commissioner McDuffie? There you go.

2941
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,000
 I just wanted for the record and for the

2942
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,000
 public hearing, there were some concerns

2943
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,000
 in our

2944
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,000
 work session that

2945
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,000
 this document

2946
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,000
 did not go through the development code

2947
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,000
 review committee. So I'm saying

2948
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,000
 that for the record for the public hearing.

2949
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,000
 And there were also questions, concerns

2950
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,000
 of why we

2951
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,000
 deleted the right of first

2952
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,000
 refusal requirement.

2953
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000
 Did you discuss that? Yes.

2954
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,000
 Okay.

2955
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,000
 I guess just

2956
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,000
 a couple small things as

2957
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,000
 we consider

2958
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,000
 ways going forward.

2959
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,000
 First, thank you very much for bringing

2960
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,000
 this back. I've

2961
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,000
 said many times that this

2962
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,000
 is never done,

2963
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,000
 right? Things

2964
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,000
 change, economies change,

2965
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,000
 how much land there is in the city changes,

2966
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,000
 et cetera.

2967
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,000
 And so this is the type of

2968
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,000
 thing that we need to be revisiting periodically.

2969
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,000
 So thank you for doing that.

2970
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,000
 I noticed on the little bar chart

2971
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
 that you had that it looked like

2972
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000
 the home ownership

2973
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,000
 opportunities

2974
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,000
 took advantage of parking

2975
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,000
 and lot area.

2976
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,000
 Is it a fair assessment

2977
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,000
 of that to say that if

2978
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,000
 we want more

2979
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,000
 smaller, affordable

2980
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,000
 home ownership opportunities, whether or not

2981
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,000
 they're subsidized or not, that

2982
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,000
 minimum lot size is a big

2983
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,000
 barrier to seeing those

2984
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,000
 be built in the city?

2985
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,000
 Yeah, I will say of the two applications that we've seen,

2986
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,000
 both of which are infill

2987
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,000
 and are supported by some other

2988
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,000
 program as well, we

2989
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,000
 have seen that the lot area reduction has had a big

2990
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,000
 impact on the project, specifically in

2991
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,000
 what they're able to fit

2992
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,000
 there and what they're able to make work.

2993
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,000
 OK, thank you.

2994
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,000
 Is

2995
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,000
 a public hearing? I don't see anyone

2996
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,000
 coming down, so I will

2997
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,000
 close the public hearing.

2998
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,000
 I guess just

2999
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,000
 one more point.

3000
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,000
 The

3001
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,000
 I think when we passed this

3002
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,000
 a year and a half ago-ish,

3003
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,000
 there was some discussion in the future

3004
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,000
 perhaps of looking at additional zoning

3005
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,000
 categories that we could open up for

3006
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,000
 affordable developments.

3007
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,000
 I think maybe in the

3008
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,000
 context of the

3009
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,000
 SB 840 discussion that we already have on the

3010
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,000
 matrix, I'd like to see

3011
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,000
 an update on

3012
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,000
 whether that

3013
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,000
 sort of incentive would

3014
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,000
 be possible in the future

3015
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,000
 as we continue

3016
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,000
 to refine this in the future.

3017
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,000
 Yeah, we'll continue to coordinate with planning.

3018
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,000
 OK, thank you.

3019
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,000
 Commissioner Kutcher said.

3020
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:34,000
 I would like to motion to approve

3021
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,000
 the updates.

3022
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,000
 Commissioner Riggs?

3023
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,000
 Yeah, I just want to say thank you for going

3024
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,000
 into each one of those details

3025
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,000
 and I'll second.

3026
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:48,000
 Any discussion?

3027
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,000
 Not seeing any.

3028
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,000
 I'll call for a vote on the board.

3029
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,000
 That item

3030
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,000
 passes

3031
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,000
 5-0.

3032
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:04,000
 And brings us

3033
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,000
 to our

3034
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,000
 planning and zoning matrix.

3035
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:14,000
 Just a couple of updates for you all

3036
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,000
 in terms of council action that's occurred

3037
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,000
 on items that have come before you.

3038
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,000
 We did have the specific

3039
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,000
 use permit for the outdoor storage

3040
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,000
 that was on the lot west of I-35

3041
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,000
 near one of the concrete

3042
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,000
 batch plants that was approved by council at their

3043
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,000
 May 3rd meeting.

3044
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,000
 And I see that he has left the room, which is

3045
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,000
 unfortunate, but I did want to let you all know that we

3046
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,000
 were able to promote Sean, the senior planner.

3047
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,000
 So if you see him, give him a hearty congratulations

3048
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,000
 for a well-deserved promotion.

3049
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:46,000
 Very, very well-deserved

3050
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,000
 congratulations. I think

3051
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,000
 I got here maybe

3052
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,000
 two,

3053
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,000
 two and a half years or so after Sean started.

3054
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,000
 And I've

3055
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,000
 seen him

3056
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,000
 really take the reins and

3057
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,000
 you know, the one thing I've seen

3058
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,000
 with Sean's projects is

3059
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,000
 that there's never

3060
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,000
 any surprises because he's always done such

3061
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,000
 a good job at interacting with

3062
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,000
 the community and the

3063
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,000
 applicant and everybody

3064
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,000
 on the front end. So well-deserved.

3065
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,000
 Any items

3066
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,000
 for the matrix?

3067
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,000
 Questions? Commissioner McTuff?

3068
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,000
 Yes, I'd like to

3069
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,000
 just to note that

3070
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,000
 my agenda item

3071
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,000
 is number four and is still on here.

3072
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,000
 So we'll want to look at that.

3073
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,000
 But I also have an addition

3074
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,000
 that I'd like to bring

3075
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,000
 forward and that is just

3076
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,000
 from looking at the

3077
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,000
 what our proposal of

3078
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,000
 the data center

3079
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,000
 project that we just approved,

3080
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,000
 but also considerable conversation

3081
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,000
 in social media

3082
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,000
 and just in the community. So

3083
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,000
 if we could add on there

3084
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,000
 and you'll

3085
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
 need to wardsmith this,

3086
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,000
 Chair Pruitt,

3087
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,000
 but rules and

3088
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,000
 regulations, guidelines

3089
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,000
 for data centers

3090
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,000
 in the city of Denton.

3091
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,000
 Are you looking for

3092
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,000
 something expository about what presently

3093
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
 exists? Well, that would be part

3094
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,000
 of it, yes, certainly.

3095
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,000
 What other

3096
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,000
 parts are you talking about? Well,

3097
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,000
 I think that

3098
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,000
 that's a good start.

3099
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,000
 Rules

3100
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,000
 and regulations, what currently exists.

3101
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:40,000
 I'll make a

3102
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,000
 slight suggestion. Please.

3103
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,000
 And especially since you mentioned the

3104
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,000
 public conversation which has taken place

3105
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,000
 over this, I think

3106
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
 maybe it would also help to have

3107
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,000
 a DME representative at that work

3108
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,000
 session to explain

3109
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,000
 what

3110
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,000
 safeguards we have

3111
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,000
 from a DME perspective, as well

3112
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,000
 as what requirements we have

3113
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,000
 given the Texas

3114
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,000
 PUC and ERCOT

3115
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,000
 to serve those loads

3116
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,000
 that,

3117
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,000
 you know, given

3118
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,000
 the land use control

3119
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,000
 that we have, just so that

3120
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,000
 that whole picture can be on the table.

3121
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:24,000
 Commissioner Riggs?

3122
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,000
 Along those lines, I think we should also talk about

3123
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,000
 the amount of water that's required.

3124
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,000
 I know some of the technologies

3125
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,000
 recycle water, but it would be good to have

3126
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,000
 that conversation as well.

3127
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,000
 Yes, I think our work sessions

3128
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,000
 are very helpful on these

3129
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,000
 items from an

3130
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,000
 educational basis, certainly,

3131
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,000
 and from conversation.

3132
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:48,000
 Very good.

3133
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,000
 At the risk of putting two things on the matrix in one night,

3134
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,000
 but I hope

3135
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,000
 this one will come

3136
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,000
 as a help for staff

3137
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,000
 at least long term.

3138
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,000
 One thing I see

3139
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,000
 as we

3140
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,000
 launch into the comprehensive plan update

3141
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,000
 and things going forward,

3142
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,000
 is that we continue to have a lot of

3143
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,000
 growth and development pressure

3144
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,000
 and our staff

3145
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,000
 is doing an amazing job

3146
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,000
 managing all that.

3147
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,000
 And I really want

3148
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,000
 to hear some ideas from

3149
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,000
 staff on

3150
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,000
 what we can do so that

3151
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,000
 staff time is

3152
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:34,000
 so that the

3153
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,000
 normal everyday things,

3154
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,000
 right, processing of

3155
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,000
 applications,

3156
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,000
 plats, et cetera,

3157
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,000
 can be done

3158
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,000
 in less time so that they'll

3159
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,000
 have more time to devote to

3160
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,000
 some of the public engagement to

3161
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,000
 the comp plan coming up.

3162
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,000
 You know, we've been under this

3163
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,000
 shot clock per view

3164
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,000
 on plats for several years now

3165
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,000
 and that's one item

3166
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,000
 that I imagine, you know,

3167
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,000
 had a parade of

3168
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,000
 people here tonight who didn't

3169
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,000
 go home to their families

3170
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,000
 at a normal time when

3171
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,000
 maybe that would have helped.

3172
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,000
 So I don't know what the right

3173
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,000
 answer is there, but

3174
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,000
 if we could just kind of understand

3175
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,000
 what, not

3176
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,000
 just limited to plats, but also

3177
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,000
 what ideas staff

3178
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,000
 may have that we can

3179
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,000
 help staff be more efficient

3180
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,000
 and

3181
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,000
 be able to have time to do those

3182
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,000
 things that we really care about long term.

3183
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:42,000
 Anything else for the matrix?

3184
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,000
 Brings us to concluding items.

3185
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,000
 Anyone

3186
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,000
 have concluding items?

3187
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:54,000
 Okay. I don't

3188
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,000
 see any. And with that,

3189
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,000
 at 7.13 PM,

3190
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,000
 I will call

3191
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,000
 this meeting to a close without

3192
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,000
 objection.