1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Good afternoon, at 5.33 p.m. on Wednesday, January 14th, with the quorum present, we'll 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:20,120 call this work session of the City of Denton Planning and Zoning Commission to order. 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:31,340 Our first item is any in-person comments on the Consent Agenda, are there any? 4 00:00:31,340 --> 00:00:34,680 Not seeing any. 5 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:43,240 We will go to the clarification of the items in the agenda, so any questions on the Consent 6 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,120 Agenda? 7 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,360 No? 8 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Okay. 9 00:00:51,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Items for individual consideration, there was one that got emailed out to us, but yeah, 10 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:19,960 so for A, Mia. 11 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:36,200 Good afternoon, Chair, any presentation on this? 12 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:42,760 The Item 4A, the individual consideration, FP25-28. 13 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Mia Hines, Senior Planner, filling in for Angie, to present this plat, this is the reserves 14 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:55,440 at Brush Creek, a final plat that is for about 15.5 acres for a property located on the north 15 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,960 side of Brush Creek Road, approximately 392 feet east of US 377. 16 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,780 At this time, the plat is not meeting all of our criteria for approval, so we will be 17 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:09,840 recommending denial, however, we have no objection to the requested extension to February 11th, 18 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,840 2026. 19 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,320 I haven't answered any questions on this one. 20 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,020 Any questions? 21 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:18,720 Is this our third extension? 22 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,200 I believe it is the fifth. 23 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,840 How many are they allowed? 24 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,600 They are allowed as many as they would like. 25 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,600 Okay. 26 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:39,320 They are allowed to request as many as they would like? 27 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Does the reasoning matter, there are certain things they have to get ready? 28 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:55,160 With this particular one, the reserves at Brush Creek have been working through some 29 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,680 agreements regarding the funding of the Brush Creek improvements that will be coming through 30 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,920 with that CIP, and that's just been taking a little bit of time to get together. 31 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:10,720 Our approvals of the civil engineering plans are contingent upon that finalized agreement, 32 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,800 and the approval of the final plat is contingent upon those civil engineering plans. 33 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,780 At this time, that's the only item to be worked out, but our recommendation will remain the 34 00:03:19,780 --> 00:03:21,600 same until such time it is. 35 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Okay. 36 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,600 I'm just curious. 37 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Okay. 38 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Anything else? 39 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,600 No? 40 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Okay, thank you, Mia. 41 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:40,200 Next item, I think, is also Mia's, FP25-38. 42 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Yes. 43 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,960 This is a final plat for the Hickory Grove multifamily addition. 44 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,360 This is just over a 40-acre property located on the north side of West University Drive, 45 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,720 approximately 200, 2,800 feet west of Goldenhofe Drive. 46 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Similarly, they are not meeting all of our criteria for approval at this time, but we 47 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,280 have no objection to the request extension to a date certain of February 11th, 2026, 48 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,400 and this is their first extension request for this item. 49 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Okay. 50 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Any questions? 51 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,880 No. 52 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,540 Thank you. 53 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:19,080 Next up is PP25-5. 54 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,480 This item is a... 55 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,280 Mia Hines, senior planner, filling in for Sean. 56 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:26,680 This item is a preliminary plat for Roselon Meadows. 57 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,160 This just about six-and-a-half-point-acre site is located on the north side of Roselon 58 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Drive east of the existing South Bonneberry Street. 59 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Similarly, they are not meeting all of our criteria for approval at this time. 60 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,580 This was the extension request that came in later in the day, so they have submitted that 61 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:49,600 extension request and staff has no objection to that, which could be granted to February 62 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,600 11th, 2026. 63 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Sorry. 64 00:04:51,600 --> 00:05:01,800 That will be fixed for the regular session, the date there. 65 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Okay. 66 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Third. 67 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Third extension on this item. 68 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Yes. 69 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,800 I did read that up there. 70 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,640 I don't know if I missed it on the other one I asked about. 71 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 It wasn't on that one. 72 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Okay. 73 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Yeah. 74 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Okay. 75 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Any questions? 76 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,640 I don't see any. 77 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Thank you. 78 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Brings us to our public hearings. 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,880 The first item is Z25-18. 80 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:36,360 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission, Bryce VanArsdale, assistant planner. 81 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:44,160 This is Z25-0018. 82 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,840 This is a request to rezone approximately 0.74 acres from residential three to residential 83 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:50,980 seven. 84 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:55,760 This property is located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Bolivar Street 85 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,760 and Taliaferro Street. 86 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:03,040 Generally, this request is consistent with the low residential future land use map designation 87 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:09,000 as well as the comprehensive plan and development code, the development code. 88 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Staff is recommending approval. 89 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,800 One thing to note with this request is that while this request does provide for greater 90 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,160 density than we typically expect within a low residential future land use map designated 91 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:24,960 area, it is consistent with the development pattern of the area over time, which has several 92 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,960 different uses in the area, such as single-family, duplexes, quadplexes, multi-family, and some 93 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,800 supporting commercial uses as well. 94 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,880 I have a longer presentation that I'll present at the public hearing, but I'm happy to stand 95 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,880 for any questions. 96 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,000 I don't see any. 97 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Thank you, Joyce. 98 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Our second public hearing will be 5B CA25-5. 99 00:06:53,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Chair, there is a joint presentation for this item and the next item if you want to call 100 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,880 those. 101 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Sure. 102 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:18,240 Item 5B, the comprehensive plan amendment is to change the comprehensive plan and future 103 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:24,840 land use designation from agricultural flume and low residential flume to regional mixed 104 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:31,320 use for a property located just north of West University Drive, south of that Legends Ranch, 105 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Hickory Grove mud area in the city's ECJ. 106 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 This if you kind of recall some of the other items that we've heard, comprehensive plan 107 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:48,120 items that we've heard is just to the west of that item or those properties. 108 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,520 The property itself is just under 25 acres and then the second request for this is a 109 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:09,960 rezoning from RR and R2 to that is incorrect that actually should be suburban corridor. 110 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Let's use this slide. 111 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,240 Sorry about that. 112 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,920 So the first request is a comprehensive plan amendment from the agriculture and low residential 113 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,600 future land use designation to the regional mixed use future land use designation and 114 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:28,600 then the zoning request is a request to change from zoning of R2 to the suburban corridor 115 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,600 district. 116 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,040 The purpose of these requests is to entitle the property for anticipated commercial development 117 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:40,680 given the Hickory Grove also known as the Legends Ranch municipal utility district to 118 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:44,520 the north within the city's ETJ. 119 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,840 I won't go over the history too much in detail as we've kind of been discussing this item 120 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,340 over the past couple of meetings but just to give you a brief reminder that municipal 121 00:08:53,340 --> 00:08:57,900 utility district to the north of this property is a special purpose district created to provide 122 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:02,660 essential services such as water, waste water and drainage to areas outside the city limits. 123 00:09:02,660 --> 00:09:08,000 This property or the subject property for this item was identified within that mud development 124 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,720 agreement for future commercial and so at this time the applicant is just following 125 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:19,040 suit with the proper entitlements for that to occur for them to develop the property 126 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,200 with commercial land use. 127 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,040 I do have a more in depth presentation in the normal or in the regular session but I'm 128 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,520 happy to answer any questions that you all have at this time. 129 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Anybody? 130 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Half of a question Commissioner Dyer? 131 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:47,600 This is the one at our last meeting in December where we were talking with people from the 132 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:53,200 roads department and they were talking about text out and all the turns and we voted on 133 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,200 all that stuff. 134 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,800 This is just another extension of that? 135 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,800 This is that same area. 136 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Okay. 137 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,800 Awesome. 138 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:00,800 This is that property right here. 139 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Okay. 140 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,800 Thank you. 141 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:13,980 Anything else? 142 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:24,160 That's our last public hearing and we do not have any work session reports. 143 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,160 Sorry. 144 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,840 No, we don't. 145 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,840 This week. 146 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:41,940 At 543 p.m. we will recess and reconvene at 630 in council chambers for the regular session. 147 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:46,280 Thank you. 148 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Good evening. 149 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,640 It's 630 p.m. on this Wednesday, January 14th. 150 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,640 With the quorum present I will call our regular meeting to order. 151 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Our first order of business is to stand and say the Pledge Allegiance to the U.S. and 152 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Texas Flag. 153 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:07,600 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for 154 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:19,840 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 155 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Under the Texas flag I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God, one indivisible. 156 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Brings us to our first action item 2A, PZ 26-252. 157 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Consider approval of the December 17th planning and zoning meeting minutes. 158 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Open the floor for a motion or discussion. 159 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,120 Commissioner Riggs? 160 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 I'll make a motion to approve. 161 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,440 Commissioner Garland? 162 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,520 I will second that. 163 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:09,320 Motion to approve by Commissioner Riggs, seconded by Garland, I'll call for a vote on the board. 164 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,680 That item passes 6-0. 165 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:19,220 Brings us to our consent agenda. 166 00:12:19,220 --> 00:12:22,720 Open the floor for a motion. 167 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Commissioner Garland? 168 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Motion to approve the consent agenda. 169 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,720 And Commissioner Dyer? 170 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,040 I second that motion. 171 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,000 It's a motion and a second. 172 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Not seeing any discussion, I'll call for a vote on the board. 173 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,360 That item passes 6-0. 174 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Brings us to our first item for individual consideration for a FP 25-28 for final plat 175 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,640 at the reserve at Brush Creek. 176 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner. 177 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,560 This item is a final plat for the reserves at Brush Creek. 178 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:17,720 The property is approximately 15.437 acres, located just on the north side of Brush Creek 179 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Road, approximately 392 feet east of US 377. 180 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,840 At this time, the plat is not meeting all of our criteria for approval, so we are recommending 181 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,840 denial. 182 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,460 However, staff has no objection to the requested extension, which could be granted to a date 183 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:33,400 certain of February 11, 2026. 184 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,440 This would be the fifth extension for this plat. 185 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,280 At this time, I'll happily answer any questions we have. 186 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Any questions? 187 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Not seeing any. 188 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Commissioner Dyer? 189 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,240 I will make a motion that we approve the request for an extension to February 11th. 190 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Commissioner Garland? 191 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,240 I will second that motion. 192 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Motion and a second. 193 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:02,600 Seeing no discussion, I'll call for a vote on the board. 194 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 That item passes 6-0. 195 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:13,200 4B, FP 25-38 is the final plat for Hickory Grove. 196 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,560 Evening again, Mia Hines, senior planner. 197 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:20,160 This item is a final plat for the Hickory Grove multi-family addition. 198 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:27,000 The property is 41.39 acres, located just north of West University Drive, US 380, and 199 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,520 approximately 2,800 feet west of Golden Hoof Drive. 200 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,000 At this time, the plat is not meeting all of our criteria for approval, so we are recommending 201 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 denial. 202 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,120 However, we have no objections to the requested extension, which could be granted to a date 203 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,720 certain of February 11th, 2026, and this would be their first extension for this property. 204 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Happy to answer any questions. 205 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,640 Any questions or a motion? 206 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Commissioner Garland? 207 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Motion to approve denial and grant the extension based on staff recommendations. 208 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Sorry. 209 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Oh, sorry. 210 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,160 For the extension or to deny it? 211 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Yes, for the extension. 212 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Okay. 213 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Motion to continue to February 11th, and Commissioner Ketcham said? 214 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,280 I second that. 215 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,280 Okay. 216 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,400 We have a motion and a second. 217 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Call for a vote on the board. 218 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,840 That item passes 6-0. 219 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Brings us to 4C, PP25-5B, preliminary plat for Roselon Meadows. 220 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Good evening again, Mia Hines, Senior Planner. 221 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,200 This is a preliminary plat for the Roselon Meadows subdivision. 222 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:45,160 The property is approximately 6.494 acres, generally located just north of Roselon Drive 223 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:53,720 and east of South Bonneberry Street and west of the future Bonneberry Street. 224 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,160 At this time, the preliminary plat does not meet all of our criteria for approval, so 225 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,160 staff is recommending denial. 226 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,480 The applicants did get an extension request in later this afternoon, which was forwarded 227 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,080 to this body. 228 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,240 So staff has no objection to that requested extension, which could be granted to a date 229 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,020 certain of February 11th, 2026, and this would be their third extension for this property. 230 00:16:14,020 --> 00:16:18,240 I'm happy to answer any questions that you have at this time. 231 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,240 Not seeing any. 232 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,240 Commissioner Riggs? 233 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:26,280 I'll make a motion to approve the extension to date certain February 11th, 2026. 234 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Commissioner Garland? 235 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,200 And I will second that motion. 236 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Okay. 237 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Seeing a motion and a second, I'll call for a vote on the board. 238 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,840 That item passes 6-0. 239 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Brings us to our first public hearing, Z25-18. 240 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Good evening, Chair, members of the commission, Bryce VanArsdale, Assistant Planner. 241 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,240 This is Z25-18, Denton Duplexes. 242 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,600 This is a request to rezone approximately 0.74 acres from residential 3 to residential 243 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,600 7. 244 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,240 This site is located on the northeast corner of the intersection of Bolivar and Taliaferro 245 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,320 streets, and this purpose is to allow for the development of duplexes. 246 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,360 The surrounding area is comprised of a variety of housing types, such as duplexes, single 247 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:23,180 family, quadplexes, multifamilies, all some supporting uses, supporting commercial uses. 248 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:27,040 The current zoning is residential 3, which comes with a minimum lot size of 10,000 square 249 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,980 feet and some associated setbacks with a 40-foot maximum building height. 250 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:37,440 The requested zoning district of residential 7 has a minimum lot size of 4,000 square feet, 251 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,160 some similar setbacks, as well as a 40-foot maximum building height. 252 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:47,320 In regard to the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan and the future land use map, this area 253 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,080 is designated as low residential. 254 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Typically, this would be predominantly single family areas with appropriately scaled commercial 255 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,520 uses. 256 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,440 This designation does come with a maximum density of five dwelling units per acre. 257 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,600 This request does provide for a little bit more than that, but it is consistent with 258 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,040 the development patterns of the neighborhood around it. 259 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,720 A few goals that this accomplishes that are in the comprehensive plan are land use goal 260 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:18,360 one, which is to grow compactly, land use goal three, to grow our assets, which is strengthening 261 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:22,240 and maintaining our current neighborhoods, as well as housing in neighborhoods goal one, 262 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,160 which is to develop and maintain a diverse housing stock, both in choices, costs, as 263 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,240 well as location. 264 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:36,920 With regard to the Denton development code, this request is in consistency with the R7 265 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,920 district purpose statement. 266 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,040 It maintains the existing character of the neighborhood, it addresses the need for missing 267 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,880 middle housing, and it is compatible with the surrounding area. 268 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,960 The criteria for approval is that this request is consistent with the R7 purpose statement. 269 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:58,400 It is generally consistent with the comprehensive plan and the future land use map goals and 270 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,480 the objectives set forth in those plans. 271 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,280 This proposed zoning and development would be compatible with the area surrounding the 272 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,520 city. 273 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,080 This project was notified in accordance to state statute. 274 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,880 We received four letters in opposition, which totaled 11.8%. 275 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,600 District does recommend approval of this, as it does meet the criteria set forth in 276 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,120 the Denton development code. 277 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,200 I'm happy to stand for any questions. 278 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,200 I do note the applicant is also here and has a presentation as well. 279 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,200 Any questions for staff at this time? 280 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Yeah. 281 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Commissioner Riggs. 282 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:37,800 I know you received four letters in opposition, but that was actually two people? 283 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,800 That is correct. 284 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,800 Okay. 285 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,440 So three of those letters are from a property owner who owns three properties within the 286 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,160 200 foot buffer area, and then there's a second property owner. 287 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,160 Okay. 288 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,160 All right. 289 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,920 And then how many duplexes could be put on this property? 290 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,840 So the concept plan, which is not at all set in stone, shows four duplex lots. 291 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,720 Whenever they get to that point, they will be reviewed to Denton development code standards, 292 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,720 which have their own landscaping, buffering, parking, all that sort of stuff will need 293 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:13,720 to be met by each individual lot on its own. 294 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Okay. 295 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,160 I will open the public hearing at this time. 296 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:25,920 I don't see any more questions, Bryce, and I'll call up the applicant, Ms. Amy Bissett. 297 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,920 Good evening, Chair Pruitt, commissioners. 298 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Happy New Year. 299 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,920 Give me just one moment to pull up a brief presentation, and we'll get started. 300 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:46,440 My name is Amy Bissett, 109 North Elm, Denton 76201. 301 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:52,160 As Bryce shared with you, we are proposing a duplex development on the corner of Bolivar 302 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,400 and Talia Farrow. 303 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,200 It's roughly three quarters of an acre. 304 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Bryce is predominantly a single-family neighborhood, although there is a mix of duplexes and some 305 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:09,340 multifamily housing integrated in the surrounding area as well. 306 00:21:09,340 --> 00:21:13,760 As Bryce also covered, I want to zoom out a little bit so you can see the development 307 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 pattern and zoning. 308 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,800 In this area, it's generally north of Sherman Drive along Elm and Locust, and there's a 309 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,240 mix of R3 zoning, R7 zoning, which is the pattern in the brown, and a little bit of 310 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,480 R4 zoning mixed in there as well. 311 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,600 An aerial overview of how the surrounding area is developed, you'll see our site outlined 312 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:44,280 in yellow, and then all of the areas outlined in red are duplex or multifamily-type developments, 313 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,200 and those outlined in blue are commercial developments. 314 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:55,640 While this is a single-family neighborhood in terms of the future land use plan, there 315 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:03,000 is an existing context here that this development would be considered consistent in terms of 316 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,200 scale and compatibility with the surrounding land uses. 317 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,400 I do also want to share a sentiment from the property owner, who is our client. 318 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,560 They're not a developer. 319 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,760 They're a family who has decided to make their first real estate investment here in the Denton 320 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,120 community. 321 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:28,040 They wish to develop a project that is compatible, that is nice in appearance and attractive 322 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:35,960 to neighbors, with patios and yards, and is scaled appropriately with the surrounding 323 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,760 context. 324 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,200 The concept plan, Commissioner Riggs, your question about how many duplexes can go on 325 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:50,100 this site, we did a concept planning exercise, and based on just the dimensional standards 326 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:56,920 associated with the R7 zoning district, there is no way to get more than four duplex buildings 327 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 on this site, which would be a total of eight units here. 328 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:07,000 You can see the way that we have it oriented in order to meet DDC requirements, those buildings 329 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,580 would face Taliaferro Street, and then we would provide access off of Bolivar to a shared 330 00:23:13,580 --> 00:23:19,120 access easement across the four lots, and each lot would have four off-street parking spaces, 331 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:24,580 which does meet the DDC parking requirements as well. 332 00:23:24,580 --> 00:23:29,120 We did hold two neighborhood meetings virtually in December. 333 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,920 Approximately 250 invitations were mailed. 334 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,320 We had a couple of attendees, one at each meeting, and then a couple of others who expressed 335 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,340 some interest that we followed up with. 336 00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:43,960 We did hear a few concerns that I'm happy to share with you. 337 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:50,440 The first was increased traffic on these neighborhood streets, so I've provided the trip generation 338 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,440 tables on the next page for you to see. 339 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,920 The second concern is an increase in on-street parking and the current right-of-way width 340 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,800 to allow for room for on-street parking. 341 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:08,080 We do know that the developer, the property owner, will be required to dedicate right-of-way 342 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:15,240 along Taliaferro to widen that street, and early meetings with the city have indicated 343 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:22,080 that some improvements associated with Taliaferro may be required as well. 344 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,880 We have parked each lot with four off-street parking spaces as well. 345 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,720 We also heard some concerns about the removal of trees, and we did a preliminary tree preservation 346 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:40,860 plan and are currently showing preserving 14 of the 21 trees on-site. 347 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:45,600 Here are the trip generation tables that come directly from the Institute of Transportation 348 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,600 Engineers manual. 349 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:54,280 We anticipate a total of 58 trips per day that is entering and exiting the development 350 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:00,560 with a peak hour number of four in the morning within one hour and five in the evening within 351 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,560 one hour. 352 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,560 And that is all I have. 353 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:10,200 I'm happy to answer any questions, and thank you for your time. 354 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:17,880 Questions for the speaker at this time? 355 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,880 I've got one. 356 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,200 I think there's...is there a bus route that goes by here on Elm Street, is that right? 357 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,520 I believe there is, but I'd have to look it up just to be sure exactly where that stop 358 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,520 is. 359 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,520 That's fine. 360 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Thank you. 361 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Thank you. 362 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:45,140 Next up, we have Denise Galeta, if you come up and state your name and address, you'll 363 00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:46,140 have four minutes. 364 00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:51,280 My name is Denise Galeta, and I appreciate the opportunity to speak here tonight. 365 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,000 And I'm talking about Talia Farrow and Bolivar Streets. 366 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,200 I respectfully oppose the rezoning request. 367 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,320 The property is located within an established residential neighborhood that has long been 368 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,920 characterized by low density development consistent with R3 zoning. 369 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,600 The existing zoning reflects the scale, rhythm, and expectations of the surrounding homes, 370 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,080 many of which were built with the understanding that nearby parcels would remain compatible 371 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760 in density and intensity. 372 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:28,680 Rezoning this site to R7 represents a significant increase in density that is out of character 373 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,360 with this immediate area. 374 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:36,040 While growth and housing diversity are important goals in Denton, they must be balanced with 375 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:42,520 neighborhood compatibility, infrastructure capacity, and long-term planning consistency. 376 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,860 So this rezoning would introduce a density jump that surrounding streets were not designated 377 00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:48,860 to support. 378 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:53,840 Bolivar and Talia Farrow are narrow streets, and I know they mentioned they would widen 379 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,200 Talia Farrow. 380 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,040 And they already experience congestion from on-street parking, service vehicles, and daily 381 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840 neighborhood traffic. 382 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:08,920 And increased density will inevitably bring more cars, more parking demand, and more traffic 383 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:09,920 conflicts. 384 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Particularly like North Elm Street, which is so heavily driven there, I'm scared to 385 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,720 walk on the street. 386 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,240 They drive so fast down there. 387 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,520 But second, the proposed rezoning was setting the precedent. 388 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,960 Approving R7 zoning on a small infill parcel surrounded by R3 zoning opens the door for 389 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,200 similar requests elsewhere in the neighborhood. 390 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,040 Over time, this can lead to piecemeal erosion of the established zoning patterns, undermining 391 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,920 the purpose of Denton's zoning framework and comprehensive plan. 392 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,280 And third, the compatibility is not just about building height or setbacks. 393 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,680 It's about scale, livability, and quality of life. 394 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,580 Higher density development on this site could affect privacy, noise levels, stormwater runoff, 395 00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:59,200 and tree canopy, all of which are important to the character and environmental health 396 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560 of the neighborhood. 397 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:07,000 And then also note that Denton has other areas, particularly along major corridors, and already 398 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,120 high density zones, where R7 development is more appropriate and better supported by the 399 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:17,120 infrastructure, transit access, and existing land use patterns. 400 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:23,040 This site, however, sits within a transitional residential block, and it's not highly density 401 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,880 area. 402 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080 And I'm not opposed to rezoning. 403 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,160 It's not against housing. 404 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,120 It's just a request that it should be thoughtful, contextual, and consistent with adopted plans 405 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,640 and existing neighborhoods. 406 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,920 And the current R3 zoning already allows for residential development that respects the 407 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,520 surrounding homes while still providing flexibility for thoughtful in-built. 408 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760 There are duplexes along Bolivar. 409 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,160 There has been no compelling justification presented that demonstrates why the existing 410 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:01,200 zoning is inadequate or why this level of density is necessary at this specific location. 411 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:09,280 I mean, when I think of eight units and 16 parking spots, and people parking on the street, 412 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,600 it's just a lot of traffic. 413 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,720 So for these reasons, neighborhood compatibility, infrastructure concerns, precedence, and planning 414 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,840 consistency, I respectfully ask the Planning and Zoning Commission to recommend denial 415 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,240 of this rezoning request from three to seven. 416 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,640 And I thank you for your time, and appreciate you listening to me. 417 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Thank you. 418 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Next up, I have Joe Langham. 419 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,200 I knew you wouldn't get my name right. 420 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,200 I'm Joe Langham. 421 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,320 I'm the guy that sent in three. 422 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,400 I have the maps gone. 423 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,320 I'm right there on the front line, so I've got the house right across the street on the 424 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760 corner of Bolivar and Fane. 425 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,600 I've got the lot next door to that, so I'm right there where that's all going to come 426 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,600 out. 427 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,640 And then I own the house on Fane, the only one that has an address on Fane. 428 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,560 I already have too much traffic. 429 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480 There's no place for anybody to go there. 430 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,560 You have the residents, but where are all the visitors and all the friends going to 431 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,560 go? 432 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,280 They're going to come right out there on Bolivar that's already been skinned down because they're 433 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,280 trying to control the speed. 434 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Well, now you're going to put in this many more, and it's just too much for the neighborhood. 435 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Basically single-family. 436 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 They speak of commercial, which is over on Elm. 437 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:44,280 They speak of other duplexes that were built by Russell Trapp 30, 40 years ago, where they 438 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:51,680 had two houses, two lots, so they put in the duplex with shared walls, so it's much more 439 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,800 of an impact than it's being presented to you. 440 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:05,680 I just don't ... I'd say a duplex going there, but to put four duplexes on it, I find it 441 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,480 disappointing that we're even up here suggesting this. 442 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,880 It's just way too much for the neighborhood, way too much for me. 443 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:22,440 I see what happens in the street on Bolivar now, and to add, to put more on it, I just, 444 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,040 I can't see it happening. 445 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040 Just too many. 446 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:34,240 That's all I've got to say, no need to keep repeating too many, so I appreciate you. 447 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Thank you. 448 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,600 This is a public hearing, if anybody else would like to speak, you're more than welcome 449 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,600 to. 450 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,600 Come on down. 451 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:54,120 State your name and address, and you'll have four minutes. 452 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Okay. 453 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,120 My name's Sam Bunn. 454 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,280 I'm at 2312 Bolivar, literally right next door to this lot. 455 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,960 This is my first time seeing any of the plans. 456 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,000 We've actually talked with the developer before. 457 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,360 He seems like a nice enough guy. 458 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:15,140 When we spoke to him, we'd said that we had three basic requests. 459 00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:23,080 We moved in with a single story home next to us, so we asked him if he could plan to 460 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,120 keep it single story, which looks like he has, which is great. 461 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,280 All we want to do is preserve our privacy. 462 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920 We have an active garden in our backyard. 463 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,180 We're out there nonstop. 464 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:38,480 We also asked him to preserve his made trees. 465 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920 This looked like he's made an effort for that. 466 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:49,480 He says 14 out of 21, so are these four inch trees, or are they the 80-year-old oaks that 467 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,640 make our neighborhood special? 468 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,280 You can't ... 80-year-old oaks. 469 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,360 It's terrible because just up the street at the Evers farmstead, they just ripped out 470 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,400 all of those oak trees. 471 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,680 This is dentin, y'all. 472 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:16,320 So the third thing for us was just if they did build tall, to not put any windows on 473 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,360 our sides. 474 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:26,360 We've discussed about having a privacy fence too, but just seeing the plans, I got 16 cars 475 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,840 pointed at my house now. 476 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:39,280 And that is ... I moved into next to a single family home, not four duplexes with 16 cars 477 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,160 pointed at my house. 478 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,560 This is insane. 479 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,560 I'm a new homeowner. 480 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,880 I bought this home three years ago, and it's a true starter home for us. 481 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:56,040 It was $250,000, and we made that on $20 an hour. 482 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,380 We scrimped and saved for 10 years. 483 00:33:57,380 --> 00:34:02,220 I moved here from California 10 years ago to buy a home. 484 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,080 My wife also. 485 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:17,440 We decided this was our dream, and so I don't have a problem with developers making money. 486 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,840 He needs to recoup his investment, and I understand that, but I don't want 16 cars pointed at 487 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,880 my house. 488 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,000 The neighborhood, the streets are so congested the way it is, they have to pass single file. 489 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,120 We have to wait for other cars to get out of the way so you can move through. 490 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,560 And my house, it's all right in front of my house. 491 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,080 We don't have sidewalks. 492 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,360 There's kids all over the neighborhoods. 493 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,960 We have kids who are running through our neighborhoods, through our yards. 494 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:51,680 We know these kids, and where are they supposed to go? 495 00:34:51,680 --> 00:35:02,080 And I guess I'm a little disappointed seeing the plan, but yeah, I think I've made my voice 496 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,080 heard. 497 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Thank you for your time. 498 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,080 Thank you. 499 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,440 Anyone else before I close the public hearing? 500 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,440 Not seeing anybody. 501 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:20,960 I'll close the public hearing, open the floor for any questions of staff or discussion. 502 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,800 Or a motion. 503 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,800 Commissioner Riggs? 504 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,800 Yeah. 505 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,800 I have a question for staff. 506 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:38,920 I'm looking, sorry, I'm looking at the duplexes on Elm and the parking lot basically behind 507 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,920 it. 508 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:46,080 And it looks like for those four duplexes, they have, I don't know, like over 25 spots. 509 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,120 Is there, I guess this is just the bare minimum for the zoning, according to that plan? 510 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,320 I believe those were developed in 2017, prior to the 2019 development code update. 511 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,120 I couldn't tell you the duplex parking off the top of my head, but the 16 is what would 512 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,160 be required with our current zoning code, and with that, they would be allowed, if needed, 513 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,360 to go up to 125% of that, but those have additional standards. 514 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:16,040 So that 16 is what they are proposing. 515 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,040 Commissioner Dyer? 516 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:23,200 To kind of piggyback on that, I know we're not approving a plat, but are there going to 517 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,080 be like garages attached to these duplexes, or is it just the parking lot behind them? 518 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,800 I think I would leave that up to the applicant. 519 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:37,440 As far as I'm aware, it would just be the parking, is that correct? 520 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,240 Our client has not done architectural design yet, because we're only at zoning. 521 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,920 I believe that they are hoping to get at least a one-car garage back there, but also have 522 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:55,160 space for a backyard that correlates with each unit, but I've not seen architectural 523 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,080 plans. 524 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaking of which, this is a non-binding concept plan as well. 525 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:09,240 We did a couple of layouts to show potentially how the site could function, but the layout 526 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,320 is not locked in by the zoning change. 527 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,320 Okay. 528 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,420 I'm just kind of curious, maybe this is more for staff. 529 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:23,520 If residents have a concern about the amount of parking, and we've already got the four 530 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:32,040 duplexes here to the east of this area, and they have way more parking, what is it in 531 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:39,280 the development code for developers that if you go to this designation, the zoning designation, 532 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,520 that it will not impact the street traffic as much? 533 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,920 What would the developer be beholden to? 534 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,200 Just to understand your question correctly, the zoning designation does not change the 535 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,560 parking requirement. 536 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,680 There will be, with the ZCP, the Zoning Compliance Plan, as well as civil engineering plans, 537 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,640 there's a TIA, as well as a trip gen analysis, which we'll go hand in hand with those, and 538 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,080 those will relate to any of the right of way stuff that needs to be done. 539 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:13,560 Even if they were put back into three single family lots, they would still have the same 540 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,480 parking requirements as four duplexes? 541 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,440 The parking is dictated by the use. 542 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,040 The duplex comes with it where there's four spots assigned to that, and with the single 543 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,920 family that will change based on the use of the parking requirement. 544 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,600 And I guess maybe that's kind of what I'm asking in a roundabout way, is with this designation, 545 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:37,720 especially we know there are going to be duplexes, what kind of parking, does it change the parking 546 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:42,600 restriction that they will have to abide by? 547 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,240 The zoning designation will not change that. 548 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:49,800 The use that they decide to go with the developer, that will dictate what their parking requirement 549 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,800 is. 550 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,800 Okay. 551 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,200 Commissioner Garland. 552 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,760 I was wondering if you could speak to, or the applicant could speak to, I know you said 553 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,520 that the design kind of wasn't set, but there's four duplexes, that's eight units. 554 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:14,280 Can you speak to how many bedrooms are going to be in each unit, or kind of what the thinking 555 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,280 is on that? 556 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:24,880 So when we prepared our concept plan, our client gave us a few templates to work with 557 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:31,200 in terms of duplex layouts and bedrooms. 558 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:37,920 And based on our current plan, those are very narrow duplexes, so you're looking at a maximum 559 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:45,600 of two bedrooms within that, just because the width of each frontage is too narrow to 560 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,680 support more than that. 561 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,600 If the zoning is approved, they might decide to go with a wider plan, but that would be 562 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,940 fewer lots and fewer units. 563 00:39:55,940 --> 00:40:02,680 This is just, the concept planning was an exercise to determine for their understanding 564 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,440 what could go here. 565 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,440 Okay. 566 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:13,040 So eight units and then two bedrooms, probably max per unit, is what we would be looking 567 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,040 at. 568 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,280 I think always kind of the concern is, Denton, is this is a college town, and we always think 569 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,480 that students, that's four bedroom house, that's four students, four cars to each house. 570 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:33,000 And so is there a way that you could kind of cap each unit and say each unit is a two-car 571 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,640 maximum, or have you kind of gotten that far ahead in sort of the planning? 572 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,320 We have not gotten that far ahead. 573 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,040 So what we're operating under is the Denton Development Code parking requirements, which 574 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,920 gives us essentially a minimum and a maximum. 575 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:54,200 And like Bryce said, we could go up to 125% of that maximum, so we might be able to get 576 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,080 a couple more spaces in there. 577 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,740 If you look at the site, that is the number of spaces that will fit. 578 00:41:00,740 --> 00:41:06,160 The way that we laid it out, we pushed the duplexes to Tally of Pharaohs so that there 579 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,520 was a room for a backyard and for a garage, a single car garage to accompany each one 580 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,080 of those, because that was the desire of our client. 581 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,920 But in terms of restricting the number of cars or the number of parking, I don't know 582 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:27,000 that there's a way to do that, except maybe in a lease agreement, so you're allocated 583 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,800 these two parking spaces, and that's it. 584 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,840 But if it was a single-family home and they had guests, they would park on the street 585 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,840 as well. 586 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:44,000 So being able to regulate that really comes down to regulating the city regulating on-street 587 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,080 parking in this neighborhood. 588 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,080 Okay. 589 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Thank you. 590 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,640 Any other questions? 591 00:41:53,640 --> 00:42:00,640 I guess I have one, Bryce. 592 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:08,040 I saw the history as far as when it had transitioned to under the '69 code. 593 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:15,640 There was talk about existing homes being built in this area, having some understanding 594 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,520 of the expectation of the neighborhood. 595 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,200 Has there been recent development here, or was it all prior to 1980 kind of timeframe? 596 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,200 Sure. 597 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,680 So since 1980, I believe it was 1995, we saw some quadplexes go in, and I don't have my 598 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,680 backup in front of me. 599 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:38,000 I believe it was 2017, the duplexes directly behind the lot went in, and the development 600 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,440 has kind of come in more or less waves over the years. 601 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,440 Okay. 602 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,760 But the single-family homes within this neighborhood were prior to that. 603 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:52,960 Those were first, and the more intense uses came afterwards, yes, sir. 604 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,960 Okay. 605 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,960 Okay. 606 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Anything else? 607 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,960 Okay. 608 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,840 Thank you. 609 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840 Discussion or emotion? 610 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,880 Okay. 611 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,880 I will move approval on this, and I'll just say a couple things. 612 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:24,900 I think when we see these type of lots within a neighborhood, change is nervous. 613 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,040 I get that. 614 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,800 At the same time, we're talking about less than an acre. 615 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,840 We're not talking about a 10-acre subdivision or more, right? 616 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:44,280 So I guess I just feel like the amount of change here would be consistent with the previous 617 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,320 pattern of incrementally providing these additional housing types. 618 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:58,360 I don't think there's a mandate or a desire to restrict the number of homes here. 619 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,680 It's right on a bus corridor between Discovery Park and downtown. 620 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,640 It seems like it ticks all the boxes as far as allowing more people to live closer to 621 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,120 schools, to retail options, etc. 622 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:20,160 So with that, I'll move approval as staffed presented. 623 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:26,800 Oh, sorry, Commissioner Riggs? 624 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:36,640 I have to say, I'm torn on this one because I know we do have a desire and our future 625 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:42,920 plans are to basically do these type of infill lots and try to get some affordable housing 626 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,240 and those types of things, but also hearing from the residents, particularly the ones 627 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:53,880 right next door, you do have an expectation when you buy into a subdivision that the use 628 00:44:53,880 --> 00:45:10,400 right next door, she's not just going to change overnight, so I'm undecided on this. 629 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,960 I would agree with Commissioner Riggs. 630 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:19,680 I know we talk a lot about the amount of infill lots within the city that still need to be 631 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,040 developed. 632 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:28,280 We talk a lot about finding ways for affordable housing, but I understand the concerns about 633 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:34,280 the amount of parking that this could put in this community on smaller streets. 634 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:42,080 We heard this several months ago on another, right around the corner from this, in another 635 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:48,960 area, and so I'm torn. 636 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,400 I guess I have another question for staff, Bryce. 637 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,440 I know the city is currently doing a citywide parking study. 638 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:09,000 Are we looking at tools and policies which could address existing on-street parking issues 639 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,640 within that? 640 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:16,360 I think I'll have to defer to Angie on that one. 641 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,340 And Charlie's even more in the know than I am, and he's coming down. 642 00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:24,960 I know the citywide parking study is evaluating several different facets of parking, but I'll 643 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,960 defer to Mr. Riggs. 644 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,960 Hi. 645 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,960 Good evening, Commission. 646 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,280 Charlie Rizonol, Interim Director of Development Services. 647 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,720 As it relates to neighborhood parking, a lot of the recommendations around the citywide 648 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:43,360 parking study are related to residential permits, and those are targeted in areas near the universities 649 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,360 primarily. 650 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:52,240 In addition to that, that would be an intermediate phase of the study, so that wouldn't be an 651 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,800 immediate action item out of that study. 652 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,800 Okay. 653 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,720 But we are going to learn about some of those tools as a result of that. 654 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:02,720 Is that correct? 655 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:03,720 Yeah. 656 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:04,720 Yeah. 657 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:08,920 Residential parking permits was an action item out of that. 658 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,000 And do those types of tools regulate only new development, or do they regulate the street 659 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,160 parking for surrounding the existing developed lots? 660 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:27,240 I guess my question is when you regulate parking on new development, that doesn't have the 661 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:34,600 potential to change existing residences that may be using the on-street parking, but some 662 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,320 of these tools may have the potential to improve that. 663 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Is that a valid statement? 664 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,200 Yeah. 665 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:48,560 I would think that's accurate, but like I said, the study found that primarily the on-street 666 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,780 parking issues were targeted more around the universities, but a residential parking permit 667 00:47:54,780 --> 00:48:00,600 is an action item out of there, which would require on-street parking to have some type 668 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,680 of residential permit associated with it. 669 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,680 Okay. 670 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,680 Thank you. 671 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,680 Did you have something else? 672 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,680 Okay. 673 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,720 Yeah, Commissioner Dyer. 674 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:17,680 So if this doesn't pass, what options does the owner have? 675 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:24,560 So any of the uses developed by the ESCP process within the R3 zoning district, which typically 676 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,800 be limited to single-family housing as well as some supporting commercial uses such as 677 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,260 lower impact general retail or things of that nature. 678 00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:39,760 So instead of duplexes, the owner could put a retail space in there is what you're saying? 679 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,320 I think I misspoke on that. 680 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,320 I don't believe it's retail. 681 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,320 Okay. 682 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,640 But there are supporting uses that can go within that zoning district that are not residential 683 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,640 as well. 684 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,640 Can you give us some examples? 685 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,480 I'm going to have to defer to Andy on that one. 686 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,480 Sure. 687 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,920 So just to clarify, there's not commercial, like a typical commercial use in the R3 zoning 688 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,120 district that you could expect by right. 689 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:08,960 Some things allowed in R3 are single-family homes, community homes, daycare, a community 690 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:17,520 service facility, some agricultural uses in private schools, typically lower intensity 691 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,560 or residential. 692 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,680 So if this weren't to pass and they didn't pursue a different rezoning, those would be 693 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,160 what they were limited to. 694 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,840 Of course, the applicant could also still decide to move this application forward to 695 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:34,840 counsel who would have the ultimate vote. 696 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:42,040 I guess, Bryce, just so that everybody can do the mental geometry, I'm thinking it looked 697 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:50,520 like this parcel is a little bit more than 200 feet wide, and with R3 with a 10,000 square 698 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,600 foot minimum lot size, you're probably looking at no more than three lots. 699 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,600 Correct. 700 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,840 So there's 32,000 square feet, which allow three lots. 701 00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,840 Okay. 702 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,840 Thank you. 703 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,840 Yeah. 704 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,840 Commissioner Ketchers said? 705 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,840 So I heard you right. 706 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:12,840 You said three lots, but we're saying four. 707 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,840 Sorry. 708 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:21,360 As usual, I'm confusing people, and I apologize. 709 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:27,000 What I was attempting to do was explain that if the zoning change were not approved and 710 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:34,040 the applicant still wanted to redevelop the property by right, what they could build, 711 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,840 I believe, would be approximately three single family homes. 712 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,000 Amy, do you want to address that so I don't put words in your mouth? 713 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000 And I have one more quick one. 714 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,200 They could also get an SUP, correct, to build duplexes? 715 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,200 Not in R3. 716 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,840 That's not allowed. 717 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:58,040 So we actually had all of these conversations with our client before we chose the path forward 718 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,480 that we chose. 719 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:08,120 I believe we could get two lots in, one that fronts Bolliver and one that fronts Taliaferro. 720 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:16,640 I would like to point out that those two lots could each have a main house and an ADU, accessory 721 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,640 dwelling unit. 722 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,080 So you're getting a similar density in that regard. 723 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,680 We also discussed going with an R4 zoning with a specific use permit. 724 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,680 What we have found, we've looked at several of these lots over the last six months with 725 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,680 property owners. 726 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:41,680 What we have found is that an R4 with an SUP to get a couple of duplexes in is financially 727 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:47,800 infeasible because the SUP process alone is about $75,000. 728 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,800 And it's all at risk. 729 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,920 You've got to do full engineering plans, landscape plans, tree preservation plans. 730 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,360 And so that was just not an option for them. 731 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,360 They're a family who's cash funding this zoning change. 732 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:10,040 And so when we looked at the variable options and we went to a pre-application meeting with 733 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:18,920 the city with the pattern of R7 zoning around the area, we felt that it was consistent with 734 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,560 the goals of the comprehensive plan and the surrounding context. 735 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,360 And so that's why we went with the R7 zoning. 736 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,960 R4 with an SUP is an alternative, but it is not one that we would take because they simply 737 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,680 wouldn't spend that money. 738 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,640 However, I do want to say one more thing. 739 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,120 You guys see me up here frequently and we're a local zoning consultant. 740 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,880 What I can do is commit to ongoing neighborhood engagement and working with the neighbors. 741 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,440 Specifically, this is the first time we've heard the concern about the cars aiming towards 742 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,540 the neighboring house. 743 00:52:52,540 --> 00:52:58,440 That is a concern and it's one that I think that it's our responsibility to address along 744 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,120 with just ongoing neighborhood concerns. 745 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:07,320 If this were to move forward and we move into design, I would personally commit that we 746 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,120 would remain involved with the neighborhood to gain feedback over time to do our best 747 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,960 to make this something that is compatible with them. 748 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,960 Thank you. 749 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,960 Commissioner Riggs. 750 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:24,200 Yeah, this is actually, excuse me, I've got something for staff. 751 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,600 So with this being, if this were to be approved, it would be a residential use next to a residential 752 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,740 use. 753 00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:35,300 So is there any kind of screening requirements, particularly for the concern about the parking 754 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:36,300 lots? 755 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:39,160 So there's not any buffering requirements for these two adjacent uses. 756 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,280 If the developer does choose to do something along that nature, that's between them the 757 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,320 neighborhood engagement, but there's nothing in the development code which will require 758 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,320 that. 759 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,320 Okay. 760 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:55,360 So that would just, that wouldn't be part of this decision. 761 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,720 Correct. 762 00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:01,440 Commissioner Ketchers had? 763 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:08,280 Would it be possible to have a community benefits agreement, like on a postpone and then come 764 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,760 back and present that with this? 765 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,060 I think those are typically much larger legal agreements. 766 00:54:16,060 --> 00:54:19,560 Something like this is, it's not really feasible. 767 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:25,400 Because I think part of the hold up here is that even though we trust that this will get 768 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:32,440 done, once the zoning change has happened, you can do this by right with really nothing 769 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,680 stopping you. 770 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:39,680 Yeah, and I would say that's probably the way we should consider all of our deliberations 771 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,840 whenever we're talking about zoning changes is they have, at this point, they haven't 772 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,560 done the due diligence to figure out exactly what needs to happen. 773 00:54:46,560 --> 00:55:08,800 So this just leaves all the options on the table for that zoning. 774 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,500 I think though, that being said, I do think we have overall goals to try to find affordable 775 00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:18,440 housing and find these info lots. 776 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,840 I think I'm okay with it and just understand that I do think the developer will continue 777 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,840 to work with you all. 778 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:34,600 Yeah, I guess I'll say just to the concern about what specifically would happen, we have 779 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:44,920 the Denton Development Code for a reason in order to set the requirements for equitable 780 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,880 development in these cases. 781 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:58,320 So if there's a concern that the commission has about what is required or allowed by right 782 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:05,600 in these types of cases, then I think it's certainly within our purview to ask DCRC to 783 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:14,360 look at that and especially if there's a specific concern that keeps coming up. 784 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:23,720 But I think that trying to create a specific plan for every 0.7 acre lot in the city, we 785 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:30,320 would need 18 planning and zoning commissions that meet once a week perhaps. 786 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,320 Commissioner Dyer. 787 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:39,800 I mean, I agree with what you're saying and with Commissioner Riggs. 788 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:47,640 If we pass this, well, yes, we have a gentlelady's agreement that she will work with the community. 789 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:53,000 It's not a guarantee because in the end, the owner owns the land and he can do what they 790 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,320 want to do with the land according to how it's zoned. 791 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:03,920 Yes, we have been talking so much in this body in the Development Code Review Committee. 792 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:10,880 City Council has been talking about the infill lots and the affordable housing and trying, 793 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,720 you know, balancing that with the neighborhood's concern when there is one of these empty lots 794 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:23,240 and it's got to get developed because I would have to imagine a developed lot is a whole 795 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:29,080 lot better to live next to than a vacant lot. 796 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:37,480 But at some point, we have to think about these things when you're in such a zone that's 797 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:44,160 mainly single family homes when the city has these lots that every single lot can't always 798 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:51,720 be built this way and we don't want to set the precedent that every time it comes. 799 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,360 So it's a balancing act. 800 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,800 In this one, I will probably vote in favor of the zoning change. 801 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:04,000 I would like to impress upon Mr. Van Arsdell that to take the notes of what the community 802 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:12,720 has so when you're working with the developer, with the owners, that the parking is, you 803 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,360 know, first and foremost because it's going to come back in front of us and it will eventually 804 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,360 come back. 805 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,160 You know, it will go up in front of the City Council as well. 806 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,720 And to make sure because we'll have another public hearing and I'm sure all of these people 807 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,100 and potentially more will be back. 808 00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:32,760 So we want to make sure that their concerns are heard for the next round. 809 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,680 Commissioner Riggs? 810 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,440 Yeah, I was going to make another point. 811 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:46,080 It was mentioned here tonight, but, you know, one of the things is if it stays residential, 812 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:51,120 Chair Pruitt to your point, you could put three individual lots on there and then they 813 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,400 would also could put in ADU. 814 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,960 So you essentially end up with two units on a lot, which sounds like that would probably 815 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,480 be the plan. 816 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:06,240 And now no dedicated parking, so definitely all that parking would be on the street. 817 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:19,400 So we do need a motion tonight. 818 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,480 I can go for it again, sure. 819 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:29,200 I'll move that we approve the staff recommended change to R7 for this lot. 820 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,200 Commissioner Riggs? 821 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,880 I second. 822 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,620 Any other questions? 823 00:59:36,620 --> 00:59:37,620 Not seeing any. 824 00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:49,960 I'll call for a vote on the board. 825 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,800 And that item passes five one. 826 00:59:53,800 --> 01:00:01,040 That brings us to both our second and third public hearings. 827 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:09,360 We're going to hold concurrently because they're on the same lot boundaries. 828 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:17,360 Sorry, CA25-5 and Z25-22. 829 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:25,880 Evening, Chair, members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner. 830 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,760 This is one presentation for two separate items, so they will require two separate votes. 831 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,920 And that is comprehensive plan amendment 25-5 and zoning case 25-22. 832 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,400 Again, this is two requests. 833 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,040 The property itself is just under 25 acres. 834 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,560 The existing future land use designation for this property is agriculture and low residential. 835 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,880 The proposed future land use designation for this property is regional mixed use. 836 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,520 And I'll get into some details about that request here in a second. 837 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:57,440 The existing zoning is residential two or R2, and the proposed zoning is suburban corridor 838 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,960 or SC, and that will follow, again, the comprehensive plan discussion. 839 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:08,640 The purpose of these requests is to entitle the property for anticipated commercial development 840 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,920 in terms of the hickory growth development to the north of this property. 841 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,480 I'm going over this slide in a couple of presentations that we've had recently, but the history of 842 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,040 this project is that it is undeveloped land. 843 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:25,580 In the Denton plan 2030, the future land use designation was all rural areas. 844 01:01:25,580 --> 01:01:30,060 And then with a minor update of the Denton 2040 plan, we changed that to agricultural 845 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:35,200 flume and a low residential flume, which covers just a little bit of the northern half of 846 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:44,520 that westernmost tract there that you see there on the screen west of Golden Hill Drive. 847 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:50,520 The hickory growth municipal utility district does not include this lot, but it did call 848 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,240 out for future commercial on the subject property. 849 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,320 Just in terms of recent applications that we've seen related to that development and 850 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,920 sort of in line with how we've gotten here to this application this evening, the mud 851 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:10,880 was created in 2022, an amendment to the agreement to include some additional multi-family units 852 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,440 to the west of this subject property was approved in August 2024, and then some zoning changes 853 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,920 and entitlements have come before this body, as well as city council over the past couple 854 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,380 of months. 855 01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:26,280 So that agriculture or that comprehensive plan amendment is that first part of the request. 856 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,160 Here to the left is the existing future land use designation, showing again that agriculture 857 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,520 and a little bit of that low residential to the north of that westernmost tract. 858 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,080 The proposed future land use designation would be regional mixed use, which would encompass 859 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,680 the entire subject area. 860 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,880 The area highlighted to that west there is the application that you guys considered a 861 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:52,500 little while ago, approved yesterday evening, I believe, for the regional mixed use future 862 01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:53,640 land use designation. 863 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,040 So along this corridor we do see some more regional mixed use designation, and then to 864 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,920 the north we have that low residential that's being developed as a part of that mud. 865 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:08,280 The regional mixed use future land use designation is intended to apply to areas that serve as 866 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,480 regional destinations within Denton. 867 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,280 This does include residential, commercial, office entertainment, and other uses except 868 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,040 for industrial, at the highest level of scale and density within the city. 869 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,860 I just wanted to show this graph here to sort of show you where we have some of our clusters 870 01:03:23,860 --> 01:03:28,400 of regional mixed use, particularly around the intersections of some of our major thoroughfares 871 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:36,280 being US 380 and I-35 north, as well as along just some of those major highway corridors. 872 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,200 And so this is the subject property here. 873 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:44,280 This would be sort of one more small cluster of regional mixed use. 874 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,720 We did put this request up against the criteria for approval and ultimately found that it 875 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,560 meets our criteria, specifically the regional planning and development trends that we see 876 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:57,520 in this area does reflect the need to plan for development of the area beyond agriculture. 877 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,800 Additionally, the request is compatible with existing and proposed development occurring 878 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:07,400 within the city and in the city's ETJ, providing for a land use and a retail or commercial 879 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,720 service that doesn't currently exist within this corridor. 880 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,600 And then finally, the regional mixed use is intended to encourage development at the highest 881 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,360 density along the major corridor, which is US 380. 882 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,840 Here you've seen this image before, just showing some of the regional development trends 883 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,640 that we've seen in the area. 884 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:30,720 This aerial imagery here to the left is from 2021, showing very little development in this 885 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:31,720 area. 886 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:39,600 This on the right is from 2025, showing some of those muds in the ETJ2 and the ETJ1 being 887 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,680 under construction with single family residential developments. 888 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,920 We had that case just to the west of the subject property come forward for a more moderate 889 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,800 density residential style developments and multifamily. 890 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,440 And then further east along that corridor, we've seen a significant increase in the amount 891 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,960 of industrial and warehouse uses. 892 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,280 So there's been jobs that's brought to the area. 893 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280 There's been some rooftops that's been brought to this area. 894 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:07,080 And then of course, there's a sort of retail center on the east side of I-35. 895 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:12,280 So we are seeing that regional growth happening along the western edge of our city. 896 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,080 And this is in line with what we're seeing there. 897 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,040 With that, staff is recommending approval of the comprehensive plan amendments. 898 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,800 And that pretty much concludes my presentation on the comprehensive plan piece. 899 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,680 As for the zoning case, the current zoning is shown on the image to the left. 900 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,160 That is R2 for both subject properties. 901 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,160 And then the requested zoning change is two suburban corridor. 902 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,560 That is the image on the right. 903 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,360 A main difference within these districts is that R2 is a primary residential district. 904 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,480 And the SC district primarily allows for commercial land uses. 905 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:55,160 We did put this request up against our criteria for approval and found that it does meet our 906 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,160 criteria. 907 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,800 Currently, the proposal is intended to allow the property to develop according to the prior 908 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,440 approvals which anticipated future commercial for this property. 909 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,880 The proposal is also intended to allow development to be compatible with surrounding development 910 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,440 in the ETJ. 911 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,560 Generally, this is consistent with the goals and policies of the proposed future land use 912 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,280 map amendment that is before you this evening as well. 913 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,640 And then the regional growth trends that I talked about with the comprehensive plan amendment 914 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,760 again, indicates a need for some zoning that allows for commercial and retail services 915 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,920 within this area with all the growth that we're seeing out that way. 916 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:38,280 That suburban corridor district is intended to provide moderate to high-intensity commercial 917 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,560 office and retail uses along high-traffic corridors like US 380. 918 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,920 It's also intended to elevate building and landscape design, have buildings oriented towards 919 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:52,160 the street, and provide appropriate buffering for adjacent neighborhoods, which we do have 920 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,040 just adjacent to this site to the north. 921 01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:00,600 The SC district isn't primarily auto-oriented, which is fitting for the US 380 corridor, 922 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:09,240 but is intended to also provide a safe environment for pedestrian and cyclists for future developments. 923 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,440 Just a little zoning district comparison. 924 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,520 So the column here is the R2 column. 925 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,180 That is the existing zoning and some of the standards that come with that. 926 01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:26,280 Some of these two are some of the other zoning options and districts that we tossed around 927 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:32,060 to see if they would be a better fit in this area, and ultimately we landed on the SC. 928 01:07:32,060 --> 01:07:36,360 The main differences that I want to point out to you is related to the building scale 929 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:41,800 and the permitted uses that are different within these two zoning districts, or across 930 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,520 these zoning districts, rather. 931 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,900 So in the R2 zoning districts, we have a max 40-foot building height, and the SC zoning 932 01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:51,800 district, we have a max 55-foot building height. 933 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,960 The highway corridor districts, actually the Hickory Grove development agreement specifies 934 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,600 that properties that are adjacent along US 380 should be developed according to the highway 935 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,120 corridor development standards. 936 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:11,480 We ended up going with the suburban corridor zoning because of the scale that is slightly 937 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,360 more appropriate when adjacent to some of those single-family residential lots that 938 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,760 we see to the north. 939 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:22,840 Additionally, as far as uses go, the primary use for the existing zoning is residential 940 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,440 in agriculture versus the urban corridor. 941 01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:27,880 The primary uses are commercial. 942 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:33,360 Specific use permits or multifamily residential could be allowed with specific use permits. 943 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,760 The applicant has stated that their intent is to develop the site with commercial, but 944 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:43,240 if that were to change and a greater residential density were to be proposed, that would, of 945 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:48,160 course, have to come before this body with a specific use permit. 946 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:55,280 So not to recapture too much on this slide, just to remind you of the history of this, 947 01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:02,400 this was a future commercial was anticipated for the development of this property. 948 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:08,040 With both of these cases, we did send out notifications within property owners within 949 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:14,400 200-foot, 500-foot buffer, and we have received none in response, no responses as of the making 950 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,000 of this presentation. 951 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,160 With that, staff is recommending approval of this rezoning request in conjunction with 952 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,760 that comprehensive plan amendment request. 953 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,620 And this is just a reminder that these are two separate items, a comprehensive plan amendment 954 01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:32,480 to change the future land use designation from agriculture and low residential future 955 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:36,800 land use designation to regional mixed use future land use designation, and then a separate 956 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,680 item is the zoning change to change the zoning from R2 to suburban corridor for both of 957 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,560 these properties. 958 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,560 That concludes my presentation. 959 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,240 I will happily take any questions that you have at this time, and the applicant is here 960 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,680 also if you have any questions for him. 961 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,680 Thank you. 962 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:59,040 At this time, I will open the public hearing for both of these items, which is CA 25-5 963 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,920 and Z25-22. 964 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,960 Any questions for staff at this time? 965 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,960 Not seeing any. 966 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,400 Thank you. 967 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,640 With that, I'll call the applicant. 968 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,120 He has a card, Mr. Thomas Future? 969 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,120 Future? 970 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,120 Fletcher. 971 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,120 Fletcher. 972 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,800 I apparently am mistaking L's for U's, I apologize. 973 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:22,800 No worries. 974 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,800 Good evening, Chairman and Commissioners. 975 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,680 I appreciate the opportunity to be with you tonight. 976 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,720 Thomas Fletcher, 6161 Warren Parkway, Frisco, Texas. 977 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,000 I am the consultant for the applicant. 978 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:40,720 I just wanted to be available to answer questions, but I did want to share a couple of things. 979 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,400 We didn't have a neighborhood meeting, but we sent out letters to everyone within the 980 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,220 200 and the 500-foot notification distance. 981 01:10:49,220 --> 01:10:54,240 The adjacent property owners, there's a couple of existing residences. 982 01:10:54,240 --> 01:11:00,720 There's properties, undeveloped properties to the south that are undeveloped but are 983 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,200 proposed for future development. 984 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:08,020 Then we have the Hickory Grove Municipal Utility District, which is the residential development 985 01:11:08,020 --> 01:11:11,600 that is currently under construction just to the north. 986 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:16,560 All of the homeowners within the notification are still owned by the home builders, and 987 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,880 there's really not an established HOA yet. 988 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,600 I did send out notifications, a letter that explained what we're doing, what we're proposing 989 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,840 along with the map that shows that I, at this time, have not gotten any. 990 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,040 I provided my phone number and my email, I haven't gotten any responses or any questions, 991 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,920 which looks like it's consistent with what the city staff has found as well. 992 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:43,040 When we did the overall project, this is not within the district boundaries of the mud, 993 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:47,880 but the original owner did purchase all the property and work to entitle it together, 994 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,660 so they did look at it as a master plan community. 995 01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:57,880 With this portion of the project being along US 380, envision that as commercial land in 996 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,560 the future. 997 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:04,040 Now that the residential development has been developing and they're starting to get homeowners, 998 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:10,800 they're starting to get inquiries on the commercial, and now is the time that we wanted to go and 999 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:17,160 get the zoning in place to start working towards the vision of this complete master plan community 1000 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,320 with retail services adjacent to the development. 1001 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:26,000 When we did the preliminary plat for the overall development, we did include these tracks. 1002 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,480 Those were shown. 1003 01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:32,520 We looked at and determined what utilities were going to be necessary to support the 1004 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,400 developments when we did the water study for the overall development. 1005 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:42,380 We looked at this as commercial, so from a utility perspective, that was taken into consideration. 1006 01:12:42,380 --> 01:12:45,960 When we did the traffic impact analysis as part of the preliminary plat, we looked at 1007 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,080 this as commercial as well. 1008 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:53,440 If this gets approved and we go forward with commercial, depending on the requirements 1009 01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:59,080 of the DDC, we may end up having to update traffic impact analysis for given users to 1010 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,120 determine if any additional improvements are required. 1011 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:08,400 As part of that TIA, there are provisions that we have to do as far as turn lanes and 1012 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,960 some other improvements. 1013 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,600 That has been factored in and is considered as part of this, but I appreciate your time 1014 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,600 tonight. 1015 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,200 I just wanted to be available in case there were questions that you had, and happy to 1016 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,000 stand for any questions. 1017 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,360 Any questions of the applicant? 1018 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:30,920 I guess I have one. 1019 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,160 If you don't know, that's fine. 1020 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:45,000 I can check with staff, or maybe we just don't know yet, but the Thomas J. Egan Road that's 1021 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:52,520 on the eastern side of this sort of parallels the Golden Hoof. 1022 01:13:52,520 --> 01:14:02,160 I said it, that's not Hope, Golden Hoof Drive, but they look fairly close to each other. 1023 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:09,400 Are there future plans to expand the Thomas J. Egan, or is really the Golden Hoof the 1024 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,800 main entrance to this area as well as the residential portion of the mud? 1025 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:21,000 Golden Hoof is a secondary arterial on the mobility plan, so it will eventually get expanded. 1026 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:28,440 Adjacent to our property, the first phases that we've developed, we have built our half 1027 01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:31,240 section of Thomas J. Egan. 1028 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,520 We've widened that and we've added sidewalks, so if you look just to the north of where 1029 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,840 this tract is, there is improvements to Thomas J. Egan that have been made. 1030 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:48,120 With development of the commercial on the corner, there will also have to be improvements. 1031 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:54,200 In our TIA, our phase five of our residential development, so if the commercial doesn't 1032 01:14:54,200 --> 01:15:01,160 develop prior to the portion of the residential that's at the southwest corner of Jackson 1033 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:07,140 and Egan Road, if that residential develops first, they have to build a right turn lane 1034 01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:11,000 onto Egan and a right turn lane onto US 380. 1035 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,120 That was identified in the TIA. 1036 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,160 If the commercial develops first, then they have to do their perimeter road improvements, 1037 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:24,040 but as part of the development, there will be additional improvements to Egan, and ultimately 1038 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,160 Egan will be developed as a secondary arterial. 1039 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,000 I believe I've got that correct as secondary and not primary. 1040 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:40,520 Then Golden Hoof, part of the reason that it is closer to Egan at the intersection is 1041 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,240 because Golden Hoof was an existing road at the connection of US 380, and because there's 1042 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:52,920 existing residents that connect to that, when we were looking at what was appropriate for 1043 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:59,160 the development, we wanted to maintain their access, so we connect there, but if you look 1044 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:05,040 at the overall residential plan, it starts curving to the northwest and then connects 1045 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:10,760 at Jackson, further away from Egan, so that there's more separation there. 1046 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,880 Okay, thank you. 1047 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,880 I don't see any more questions, thank you. 1048 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,920 Thank you, appreciate your time. 1049 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,600 This is a public hearing, so if anyone else would like to speak, you're more than welcome 1050 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,100 to. 1051 01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:30,120 Not seeing anyone, I'll close the public hearing. 1052 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,560 Open the floor for discussion. 1053 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,120 Commissioner Ketcham said. 1054 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,280 I motion to approve. 1055 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,280 Commissioner Dyer? 1056 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,280 I second that motion. 1057 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,280 Okay. 1058 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,280 Yes, yeah. 1059 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:49,280 So I motion to approve Z25-0022. 1060 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,280 Okay. 1061 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:58,040 I think we want it in the opposite order. 1062 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,560 I think we want the comprehensive plan amendment. 1063 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:14,800 Can we make a motion on both items and vote on both items? 1064 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:15,800 Okay. 1065 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:16,800 Yeah. 1066 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:17,800 So let's try that. 1067 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:22,520 I think it'll just be cleaner, Commissioner Riggs, if we just go one by one. 1068 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:23,520 Commissioner Ketcham said. 1069 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:29,240 Okay, I motion to approve CA25-0005. 1070 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,520 And Commissioner Dyer? 1071 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:39,080 I second that motion to make a recommendation to the City Council to approve the comprehensive 1072 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,880 plan amendment. 1073 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,880 Any discussion? 1074 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:54,800 Yeah, I'll just say I have full faith in our staff to be able to apply our rules and regulations. 1075 01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:01,600 I have heartache about this entire corridor because I haven't heard people asking for 1076 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,280 more of 380 east of town to happen west of town also. 1077 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:14,880 I understand that that's not the way that quote unquote it's usually done in Texas. 1078 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,800 And so it's a big rock to push upon. 1079 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:27,960 You know, ultimately, I think the city has control over land use, and we don't have control 1080 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,360 over a textile roadway. 1081 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:37,360 And so when we're looking at safety implications and the future traffic flow, the only tool 1082 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:43,480 we have is to influence the land use. 1083 01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:46,040 Not seeing any more questions? 1084 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:54,560 Call for a vote on the board. 1085 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,660 That item passes 5-1. 1086 01:18:57,660 --> 01:19:03,640 And I'll take a motion for the second hearing. 1087 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,800 Commissioner Ketcham said. 1088 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:13,280 I motion to approve the zoning change 0022. 1089 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,280 And Commissioner Riggs? 1090 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,280 I second. 1091 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,320 Very good. 1092 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,240 Any other questions or comments? 1093 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,240 Not seeing any. 1094 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:30,300 I'll call for a vote on the board. 1095 01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:33,880 And that item passes 5-1. 1096 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:34,960 Thank you, sir. 1097 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:45,680 That brings us to item 6A, planning and zoning commission project matrix. 1098 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:46,680 Thank you, Chair. 1099 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,960 So at our December meeting, we added several items to the matrix, which you should see 1100 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:58,320 reflected in your backup, including upcoming discussions on the comprehensive plan, further 1101 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:04,440 discussion on zoning and annexation, some updates on apartment vacancy levels, a request 1102 01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:10,920 to 380 study, explanation of the financial tool staff uses, and explanation on why various 1103 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,920 departments don't attend all meetings. 1104 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,480 So we've captured all of those. 1105 01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:21,420 And we'll continue to work through our matrix at future work sessions and upcoming meetings. 1106 01:20:21,420 --> 01:20:27,840 But happy to add any more if we would like, or yeah, further discussion. 1107 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:34,200 Any items to add to the matrix from the commission? 1108 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,440 I think that sounds like plenty for staff to get through. 1109 01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:40,960 Yeah. 1110 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:46,120 It is a lot. 1111 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,360 I do want to add something not urgent, but I think it's important to talk through this 1112 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:55,700 as we get to the comprehensive plan in the future to the update. 1113 01:20:55,700 --> 01:21:07,300 And that is I think we need a continuation of the state bill discussion, specifically 1114 01:21:07,300 --> 01:21:16,260 on SB 840 from this previous session. 1115 01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:20,600 Thank you. 1116 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:26,160 I think the commission would benefit from an understanding of not only what the current 1117 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:33,000 status is, but what we expect to happen based on historical trends of how these bracketed 1118 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:42,800 bills operate by 2030, and to give us a rational appreciation for what is coming so that we 1119 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:49,760 can adjust to that beforehand instead of afterwards. 1120 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,000 Not seeing any else. 1121 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,000 Close that item. 1122 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:58,560 And that brings us to item 7, concluding items. 1123 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,640 Anyone have any concluding items? 1124 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,640 Yep. 1125 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,560 Wanted to give you all an update on some items that council considered at their meeting last 1126 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,800 night that you all considered at your December meeting. 1127 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,840 The ADU and town home amendments did pass. 1128 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,320 Planning and Zoning Commission, you all had recommended approval of the amendments with 1129 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:24,360 the modification that an additional ADU per lot could be added with an SUP and less within 1130 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,480 a mile and a half of the downtown square district. 1131 01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:30,080 City council passed that with a modification. 1132 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:35,480 So removing that mile and a half buffer, but you can get the additional ADU with an SUP. 1133 01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:37,920 So those passed yesterday. 1134 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:44,160 As well as the Hickory Grove, the companion case that we saw last month, the comp plan 1135 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,820 and the mobility plan passed last night. 1136 01:22:46,820 --> 01:22:51,240 The zoning case will be considered at the February 3rd meeting. 1137 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:57,800 The Craver Estates Zoning District or Redistrict passed as well, so that was further north 1138 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,240 closer to Lake Ray Roberts. 1139 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:06,400 As well as the modular data center SUP and the special sign district for Hunter Ranch. 1140 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:11,760 All of those were considered at their meeting last night and that's all I have. 1141 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,680 Any other concluding items? 1142 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:21,400 Seeing none, without objection, I will adjourn our meeting at 743 PM. 1143 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,400 Thank you.