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 All right, good afternoon. This is the December 12, 2025 meeting of the Sustainability Framework

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 Advisory Committee in the City Council Work Chamber. Our first agenda item is considering

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 the approval of October 24, 2025 minutes. Is there any discussion about the minutes? Seeing none,

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 may I have a motion to accept? So moved. Thank you. Second? Seconded. All in favor of adopting?

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 All opposed? Minutes are adopted. Thank you. Our next item is to receive a report, hold a discussion,

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 and give staff direction on a recommendation to City Council for adoption of the final draft

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 of the Simply Sustainable Framework. And Julissa Amador will present. Happy Friday. So good

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 afternoon everyone. My name is Julissa Amador. I'm the Senior Program Coordinator over at Environmental

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 Services and Sustainability. Today we're going to be going over the Simply Sustainable Framework

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 final draft. We've run this two years before, so this just includes a little bit of the revision

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 that we've done. So our focus will be talking a little bit about the draft, receiving additional

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 feedback needed and then next steps. So background, you guys should now be a little bit more familiar

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 with how we adopted the Simply Sustainable Plan in 2012. So we look at revising the Simply

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 Sustainable Framework every four to five years to make sure that it's still in line with community

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 needs and city needs as well. So the most recent sustainability framework was adopted in 2020.

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 With that also came a lot of different plans that were adopted throughout the city. So you

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 guys are familiar with some of these plans, the River Forest Master Plan, the 2040 Mobility Plan,

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 person trails, etc. We also have the Climate Action Plan that was adopted in 2024. So that is just to

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 let you guys know that we're keeping these plans in mind that they have their own metrics as well,

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 so we're not wanting to repeat any metrics in our Simply Sustainable Framework or we want to make

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 sure that those are, that we're also taking those into account. So one of the big pieces of feedback

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 that we received from this group was the inclusion of a vision and guiding principles which was

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 included in the draft of the document. We also did receive comment based on, I believe it was Dr.

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 Meyer, on including information about green infrastructure. So we did reach out to Planning

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 and they did talk to us about how they're currently amending the Debt and Development Code

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 and so they're going to be looking at the opportunity to, in the future, once that's all brought to

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 everybody, they would look at how they can incentivize or encourage non-residential

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 multi-family development to be able to include green infrastructure.

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 So they'll be looking at doing that and they're currently working on that right now.

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 With that we wanted to touch base with y'all and see if you guys

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 wanted to request any additional changes to the document or if you'd like to give a recommendation

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 on moving forward with some council. I like the changes. I think it

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 that leads great, especially really like the careful wording of the goals.

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 It is precise and right on target. So from my point of view I recommend moving forward with this.

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 I have just one comment. On page 10 I'm not sure if I raised this issue before

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 under materials management where you say expand food waste and organic

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 collection programs to schools and universities. Can we add restaurants on town as well?

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 Yeah, currently the valet program that manages the downtown area, that was part of, that was the pilot

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 that I solidly started with NCT Cog, but we can look at including that as well. I think the thought

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 there was we were extending beyond the restaurants that we have now to reach out to the schools

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 because they have their cafeterias on campus and that hasn't been an area that we've been a part

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 of just yet. We are working with UNT and then in the future we'd like to work with you know

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 TWU, wherever there's an opportunity. And we have worked with some private schools

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 and we talked to Denton ISD about getting into work with some of their cafeterias. It's just a

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 bigger operation. I have a couple of things. The vision statement and the guiding principles

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 were taken right from the 2020 plan, correct? We did grab the ones from there. We were

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 able to advise them to be updated for this. Okay, good. I would also like to see the glossary

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 continue. The 2020 had a very informative glossary and I think when we have terms in this

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 like, as simple as it sounds, we can't assume that everybody knows what we're talking about.

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 A definition of fossil fuels, a definition of environmental footprint,

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 a definition of carbon footprint, a definition of net zero carbon, a definition of greenhouse gases,

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 a definition of resilient infrastructure, of green building, of what a power purchase agreement

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 is and what a sustainability, a sustainable community is. Those are all words that are used

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 in the new plan. So I think it would really be terrific if we could add a glossary like that

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 to help in terms of just so people know what we're talking about.

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 Let's see. I also thought in this new plan, your definition of sustainability is taken from

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 the lead folks. It's pretty cut and dry, I think you'll agree. I would like it if we went back to

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 the 2020 definition, which means "meeting today's needs without compromising the ability of future

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 generations to meet those same needs." I think that hits home a little better than the leads one does.

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 So I'd like you to consider that please.

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 Now, and there are two mentions of climate change in the 2020 plan and I couldn't find any references

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 at all to climate change in the in the revision. And I think that's something, that's why we're

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 doing the plan, right? And I think it would be great to, when there's a statement that says

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 from the, pardon me, the new draft, quote, "Texas ranks highest among states most impacted by

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 natural disasters." And why? That's the question. If I were reading this, I'd say why. And just a

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 mention of climate change, because that's what this is all about. There was another thing.

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 Yeah, this page here, chapter two of the 2020 plan, Air Quality and Greenhouse Gas Management.

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 We've got a little box right up here. It simply says, "Climate change is the rise in global

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 importance of this issue, Devin initially will leave that out because Devin is no longer in the

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 conference of mayors for climate protection." At least that's what they told me. They didn't

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 renew their membership. But if we could get a little box like this or anything, just a definition

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 so that people know, pardon me, what this is about. Does anybody have any discussion about that?

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 It seems like we asked that last time, so I don't know again.

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 We referenced the climate action plan, so that's the larger climate document. This is the

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 which is that. That's what we developed, and we have that as a standalone item now.

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 You don't need to reiterate the climate action plan. We can reference the climate action plan,

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 much like the 2040 plan mobility plan in the sustainability framework. In the adapted version,

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 in this version? It's been referenced in this version. Yes, it's referenced in this one. What,

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 the climate action plan? Yes. But climate change has? The climate action plan references. But

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 you're assuming that people are going to connect that. I'm thinking about just the educational

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 aspect, so that. Well then, my question is. No, that's not my question. I just don't see why

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 climate change cannot be mentioned in this document, because you're assuming that people

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 have read the climate action plan. I don't assume anything, just because. And I feel that it's our

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 duty to be as transparent and as informative as possible with these documents. So that's all I

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 have to say. This is interesting. It gets to be kind of a philosophical discussion.

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 The reason I like it now is because it talks about all of the goals that we would like to accomplish,

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 and in a way, sort of unspoken, climate is a benefit on the side. So if you support

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 transportation strategies that reduce air pollution, that helps with climate change.

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 If you support green building, that helps with climate change. If you maintain a diversified

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 All of that stuff people like, Texans like, they don't like climate change. So if you read

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 this as a political document, I think it's smart. These are the things we all care about as a

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 community, that we know are like common interest goods. Everybody wants to save money on energy.

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 Everybody would like to have more efficient buildings and cleaner air. So let's put that up.

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 I think you're making a wide assumption. People don't want clean air. Well,

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 they want it more than climate change action, if you just look at the politics.

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 I still don't see why that's no reason just for having a definition of climate change in this

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 document. Well, but like we said, there's a whole climate action plan. And you had put a list of all

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 the plans that are open. So should we go and talk about all of this? Well, I don't know.

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 already been mentioned in the previous 2020 plan. It is, I will say, I can see on page five

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 of the draft document, it talks about the draft document, the current one. It says the definition

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 is to ensure its infrastructure and operations are prepared for stress stressors of changing climate.

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 add the glossary, I don't know, we can definitely add a definition of climate change in the glossary.

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 I think I'd be fine with that. I support that too. Climate change is real. It doesn't matter

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 if we think it's likely or not. No, I know. But I was reading it, I think, the same way that Adam

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 was. I mean, I like that the goals are very specific, and they're all, and they're measurable,

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 and they're all good things to do, regardless of why we do them.

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 I've written two books on climate change. I know it's real. I know. So no, well, I need to pay

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 attention to the rhetoric of our outward facing documents. These are common interest goals that

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 I think are not controversial, and I'll get the job done. And I think this is a good document,

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 but just a little bit of adding on the climate change definition would help.

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 Would everyone support that? That's fine. Any other discussion?

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 Are we cool with the glossary? Are we going to have it? Great. Fantastic.

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 So, do you need direction? Yes, sir. Any other comments?

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 So, I would say adopt it with the changes that we just talked about.

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 Is that your motion? That's my motion, yeah.

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 Oh, yeah, that's right. Sorry. Next item, item C, is receive a report, hold a discussion,

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 2016 meeting schedule.

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 All right. I'm going to jump on through this one. Catherine Barnett, Sustainability Manager.

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 Just want to have a little discussion about meeting schedule, talk a little bit about

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 our historical meetings over the last few years, frequency, talk about making some changes to the

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 day of the week for the meeting and times and locations. So, in 2023, we held eight meetings.

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 We did six in '24 and seven this year. Those meetings averaged less than an hour and a half.

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 We had some canceled for no forum, some scheduling changes,

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 scheduling conflicts that had come up along the way. Just looking at the number of meetings and

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 the duration of the meetings, we want to talk about moving to an every other month schedule.

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 Talk about moving up to an every other month schedule and try to have a little bit more of

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 a packed meeting every other month. Try to get in here and cover some solid items.

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 So, coming in for a 30-minute meeting. I don't know if everyone's aware the city

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 is going to be closed to the public on Friday after it ends moving forward.

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 Start that first January 2nd. So, we would need to change our meeting date and time with that new

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 scheduling change and looking at this room, which we have to hold our meetings since they're

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 televised. They need to be either in this room or at development services and this is the preferred

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 one for the way our meetings are produced. So, Wednesdays and Thursdays are actually better

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 for this room, but if we need to look at other days of the week, we can do that. I mean, just be

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 on time. So, I'd like to get some feedback about moving to every other month, days of the week,

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 meeting times, all of those things. I don't have a preference between Wednesday and Thursday,

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 but I would say my opinion is that it's probably better to keep it on a monthly schedule if you go

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 to every other month and you miss one due to lack of forum or whatever, then you're going to miss

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 a big block of time. I agree with that. I think monthly meetings are better. For me, Wednesday

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 morning is better. Monday, if you don't have a Wednesday. And then I think it's good to,

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 like you did before, you can ask us what meetings we can have. For example, I travel in summer,

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 instead of just one meeting. Yes, that's advisable too. Anybody else? I'm flexible.

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 Were you able to capture all that in case my notes aren't right there? Okay. So what we'll do is

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 we'll reach out about travel and then we'll come back and we'll probably do like we did this year

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 and not do the one around Thanksgiving. So what's the difference? Do you want to disperse next year?

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 coming out again this month coming from that sustainability framework advisory committee email

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 into your city inboxes. So it may not show up as coming from America

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 And we have the follow-up memo for some of the matrix items, just some status updates on those and the matrix.

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 I this is really good. This explains a lot and my was on the long term items.

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 You said it's written here, for example, the DME updates that staff will update

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 us, this committee, when timelines are available. So I just want to reiterate that it'd be great if

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 we got once they are available progress reports, just to just to know that the wheels are turning.

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 the things on the matrix, but we'll make sure that we have something to know to just keep an eye on

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 things and keep you posted on it. We'll continue to do that through staff members. I have a few

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 questions regarding this report, which is indeed very good. I especially like the one from our

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 court. Lots of information. Yes. So on the green space enhancements,

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 so it is mentioned only the media. Is there any any future work to enhance other green spaces?

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 to do that. We agreed to partner on the medians with them this year with some funding to help.

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 pretty well, work well together. So time and resources. So regarding the incentives in the

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 second paragraph, there is a statement saying that increasing energy efficiency of existing

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 residential structures by 25% will reduce 3.6 of the total emissions, but increasing solar

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 to 192 megawatts will reduce only 0.4% of total emissions. So I would like in the future

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 reports to know how the math was done. That's based on the modeling that

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 decrease the emissions more than 0.4%. So it's just me maybe. I just would like to see some

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 For the Denton Municipal Electric updates, I understand that the pollution cost of acquiring

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 So how it would be calculated? Yes,

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 in general that's calculated by social cost of carbon.

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 is just a tool, it's not a regulatory tool, but just to make sure so only environmental

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 sensitive areas are included in the plans in any development review as regulatory. Is it true?

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 Bases are regulatory, isn't it? Okay. I couldn't speak to what else is in the code. All right,

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 I'll check. Thank you. Anyone else? Anybody else? It may go along a little bit with what Dr. Meyer

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 was talking about, but one of the methods of dispatchable generation that people have been

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 talking a lot about lately is small-scale nuclear. Has this committee ever been,

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 received a presentation on that? No. Might be something good to put on the radar. Okay.

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 I just, in researching the earlier plan that we discussed, I went to the Council's committee on

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 the environment to see what they said when this was presented to them in October, and unfortunately

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 that meeting is not videotaped. Okay. And the notes were, they didn't say really anything about

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 what happened when just that they discussed the plan and asked questions, but there was no details

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 the minutes can be a little more precise as to what actually was discussed. I appreciate that.

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 Anybody with anything else regarding the matrix? Okay. With that,

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 is there a motion to adjourn? Second? I second. So we are now adjourned. Thank you.