WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.680 - All right, good morning. 00:00:01.680 --> 00:00:03.440 Like to call the Public Utility Board meeting 00:00:03.440 --> 00:00:07.860 for the City of Denton Monday, October 13th, 2025 to order. 00:00:07.860 --> 00:00:12.300 Are there any presentation from members of the public, Cassie? 00:00:12.300 --> 00:00:13.140 No, there are not? 00:00:13.140 --> 00:00:15.400 All right, then we'll move on to the consent agenda. 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:17.480 Would any board member like to pull any items 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:18.800 from the agenda? 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.880 - I would like to remove items E and F for the review. 00:00:22.880 --> 00:00:23.720 - Any others? 00:00:23.720 --> 00:00:26.360 No, okay. 00:00:26.360 --> 00:00:31.360 Then we'll entertain a motion for items A, B, C, and D 00:00:31.360 --> 00:00:33.720 for approval. 00:00:33.720 --> 00:00:34.680 - So moved. 00:00:34.680 --> 00:00:35.520 - We have a motion. 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:36.340 - Second. 00:00:36.340 --> 00:00:37.680 - And a second. 00:00:37.680 --> 00:00:39.480 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:00:39.480 --> 00:00:40.320 - Aye. 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:41.800 - Any opposed? 00:00:41.800 --> 00:00:43.360 Passes unanimously. 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:44.960 All right, item E. 00:00:56.360 --> 00:00:57.240 Good morning, board members. 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.240 Aaron Skinner, Senior Project Manager, Capital Projects. 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:01.800 Questions might you have today? 00:01:01.800 --> 00:01:07.800 - I was wondering if we could review the presentation 00:01:07.800 --> 00:01:12.800 that was included and be able to ask our questions from that. 00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:14.300 - Being a consent agenda item, 00:01:14.300 --> 00:01:16.600 we didn't have a presentation prepared for this, 00:01:16.600 --> 00:01:17.800 but I'm happy to answer any questions. 00:01:17.800 --> 00:01:20.500 - I'm sorry, there was one included with the documents. 00:01:20.500 --> 00:01:23.340 - Aaron, it's up there. 00:01:23.340 --> 00:01:24.520 - It is in there, okay. 00:01:24.520 --> 00:01:25.360 Perfect. 00:01:25.360 --> 00:01:26.700 25192. 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:29.880 - Sorry about that. 00:01:29.880 --> 00:01:30.700 - No worries. 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:40.800 - So this is for the standard utility agreement 00:01:40.800 --> 00:01:44.240 for the FM 1515 relocation project. 00:01:44.240 --> 00:01:48.420 It's wastewater relocation and abandonment. 00:01:48.420 --> 00:01:52.320 It's a textile is coming in and widening FM 1515, 00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:55.220 so they've asked us to get our utilities out of their way. 00:01:56.240 --> 00:01:57.400 And this is gonna go from Bonnie Bray 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:58.400 all the way to Mosh Branch, 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.140 so almost all of Airport Road to the airport. 00:02:01.140 --> 00:02:04.520 And here's our project estimates. 00:02:04.520 --> 00:02:07.800 I'll give you a moment to kinda read through that 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:08.640 for a moment. 00:02:08.640 --> 00:02:17.600 You have questions on this, sir? 00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:21.440 - So the scope of the project was something 00:02:21.440 --> 00:02:24.320 that was mandated by Texas DOT? 00:02:24.320 --> 00:02:25.140 - Yes, sir. 00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:28.440 - Well, not the full scope, the general relocation, 00:02:28.440 --> 00:02:30.960 and so the city took it upon ourselves 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.880 to include some betterment in this project. 00:02:33.880 --> 00:02:36.700 So as we're moving, let's go ahead and upsize the pipes 00:02:36.700 --> 00:02:38.920 as we go for future development. 00:02:38.920 --> 00:02:42.160 - Okay, so this project was partially mandated 00:02:42.160 --> 00:02:46.000 by Texas DOT requirements for changes to the freeway. 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.080 So what portion belongs to the city 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:53.100 and what exactly is the city proposing to do 00:02:53.100 --> 00:02:54.800 and is that part of some other work 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.280 that had previously been planned? 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:58.560 - No, the work wouldn't have been planned 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.360 until Texas DOT approached us to move. 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:02.960 So the city just took it upon ourselves 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:04.080 to include the betterment. 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:05.920 And it looks like on this slide, 00:03:05.920 --> 00:03:10.180 our net reimbursement for this project is $25,000. 00:03:10.180 --> 00:03:14.960 So most of this is betterment for this project 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.400 'cause we were able to stay in Texas DOT right away 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:18.520 for a lot of this. 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:19.800 And so there were minimal-- 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.600 - I'm sorry, could you say that again? 00:03:21.600 --> 00:03:23.880 - We were able to stay in part of Texas DOT right away 00:03:23.880 --> 00:03:25.400 for a lot of this project, 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.600 but we still needed to move within that right away. 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:29.640 So while moving, we're gonna go ahead 00:03:29.640 --> 00:03:31.800 and issue the betterment and upsize pipes. 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.120 - Okay, so what are the additional benefits 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.600 that the city is providing in this project? 00:03:38.600 --> 00:03:40.840 - Utility betterment. 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:44.520 And so after the FM 1515 project by Texas DOT, 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.760 the city will take over FM 1515. 00:03:46.760 --> 00:03:50.200 - It's Airport Road. 00:03:50.200 --> 00:03:51.320 - Airport Road, yes, sir. 00:03:51.320 --> 00:03:52.860 - I'm sorry, I don't think I quite caught that. 00:03:52.860 --> 00:03:54.200 I apologize. 00:03:54.200 --> 00:03:56.940 - So Texas DOT is going to redo and widen the road. 00:03:56.940 --> 00:04:00.560 And once Texas DOT, similar to the Elm and Locust projects, 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.840 once Texas DOT is done with the road maintenance 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:04.760 and widening, the city will take over maintenance 00:04:04.760 --> 00:04:07.680 of that road and it will become a city of Denton Road. 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:10.560 - Okay, so the maintenance, the additional maintenance 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.000 isn't included in this project, is that correct? 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:13.980 - Correct, yes, sir. 00:04:13.980 --> 00:04:16.080 - Okay, so how much additional maintenance 00:04:16.080 --> 00:04:18.140 will the city be on the hook for? 00:04:18.140 --> 00:04:20.000 - That would have to be a streets department question, 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:22.720 but I'd be happy to get some schematic numbers for you 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:23.880 and it may take a little bit of time 00:04:23.880 --> 00:04:25.360 to get that from the streets department, 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:27.440 but I'd be happy to look into that for you. 00:04:27.440 --> 00:04:30.240 - Okay, I would request to get that information. 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.960 Those are my questions. 00:04:32.960 --> 00:04:37.960 - Okay, additionally, this net reimbursement to utility 00:04:37.960 --> 00:04:41.640 was not listed in the agenda item. 00:04:41.640 --> 00:04:42.480 - Yes, sir. 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:44.800 - It was also not apparent, didn't track back 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:49.800 to the whole, the contract award and all that. 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.480 And so there was a few questions that we had 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:57.480 and just the item wasn't evident on the information 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.020 that you've discussed. 00:05:00.020 --> 00:05:00.860 - Understood. 00:05:00.860 --> 00:05:07.000 - I guess my question would be, was there, 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.960 was there a, I forget the name of those agreements, 00:05:09.960 --> 00:05:14.960 were the repurchase when TechStop basically gives money 00:05:14.960 --> 00:05:17.420 for us to take over the road? 00:05:17.420 --> 00:05:18.260 - Yes, sir. 00:05:18.260 --> 00:05:19.360 - Like we get on McKinney Street? 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.320 - The AFF, I believe. 00:05:21.320 --> 00:05:23.280 - Did we get a dollar on that? 00:05:23.280 --> 00:05:25.680 - No, we, on these projects, they've asked us 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:27.800 to do the standard utility agreements 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.680 for reimbursement after the facts 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.640 'cause costs are pretty fluid on these projects. 00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:34.560 As issues come up, we don't wanna, 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.200 we'd rather have reimbursed for the exact amount. 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:40.740 - So what exactly was $25,000 gonna buy us? 00:05:40.740 --> 00:05:41.840 - Easement. 00:05:41.840 --> 00:05:42.960 - Just the-- - Easement. 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:44.160 - Okay, that's pretty-- - Yes, sir. 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:45.000 - That's pretty cheap. 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:46.760 - Yeah, we had to buy I think 400 square feet 00:05:46.760 --> 00:05:48.360 of wastewater easement. 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:49.880 - That's it, just for that turn there, 00:05:49.880 --> 00:05:50.720 is that what it was? 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:51.840 - Yes. - Yeah, right there? 00:05:51.840 --> 00:05:52.680 - Yes, sir. 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:53.500 - I know what you're talking about. 00:05:53.500 --> 00:05:54.340 - Yes, sir. 00:05:54.340 --> 00:05:55.180 - Okay. 00:05:55.180 --> 00:05:58.560 All right, any other questions? 00:05:58.560 --> 00:05:59.400 Mr. Ray. - Yes, sir. 00:05:59.400 --> 00:06:00.240 - Thank you. 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:01.240 When you were talking about the, 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.800 you said utility improvements. 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:05.640 Did I get that right? 00:06:05.640 --> 00:06:06.640 - Yes, sir. 00:06:06.640 --> 00:06:08.400 - Tell me what that is. 00:06:08.400 --> 00:06:10.960 - Basically, water and wastewater pipes, 00:06:10.960 --> 00:06:12.520 if you've got an eight inch right now 00:06:12.520 --> 00:06:14.400 and we have a lot of future development coming in, 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:16.880 we may upsize that to a 12 or 16 inch. 00:06:16.880 --> 00:06:20.280 - But not, thank you, but not necessarily moving 00:06:20.280 --> 00:06:21.640 or will those pipes then be, 00:06:21.640 --> 00:06:23.640 are they gonna be moved because of the widening? 00:06:23.640 --> 00:06:26.480 So that's what's part of this. 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:27.300 - Yes, sir. 00:06:27.300 --> 00:06:28.400 - Your incentive to do this 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:30.240 and so you were using the money to do that. 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.000 - Yes, sir, that's correct. 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:32.840 - Thank you. 00:06:32.840 --> 00:06:36.600 - Just to follow up, excuse me. 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:37.440 - Yes, sir. 00:06:37.440 --> 00:06:40.880 - Normally, if we had to move our utilities 00:06:40.880 --> 00:06:43.120 due to a textile widening, 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.040 they would have to pay us reimburses for the moving. 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.320 But I'm gonna assume that this case 00:06:48.320 --> 00:06:52.680 is because we wanted to move those utilities, 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:56.400 we wanted them to pay for the betterment of that road. 00:06:56.400 --> 00:06:57.240 - That's a little bit of it, 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.800 but mostly we were able to stay in the right-of-way 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:00.680 for a big portion of it. 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.100 A lot of times, the reimbursement is triggered 00:07:03.100 --> 00:07:05.600 by having to move out of the textile right-of-way. 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:06.640 - All right, so the rest of the right-of-way 00:07:06.640 --> 00:07:11.080 was acquired through textiles doing. 00:07:11.080 --> 00:07:12.080 - Yes, sir, that's correct. 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:13.040 - All right, okay. 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.180 All right, very good. 00:07:14.180 --> 00:07:16.280 Anymore? 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:18.600 - I have a question. 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.520 We approve this, does that, 00:07:21.520 --> 00:07:25.020 do we keep this at bay until you get your information, 00:07:25.020 --> 00:07:26.840 or what is our procedure here? 00:07:26.840 --> 00:07:30.240 - It goes to council and then council will approve it. 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.940 - But I mean, you were asking for additional feedback. 00:07:33.940 --> 00:07:37.640 Is that necessary for, do you need that for your vote? 00:07:37.640 --> 00:07:38.840 - It's not necessary to me. 00:07:38.840 --> 00:07:40.720 I'm willing to get it after the fact. 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:42.560 - And that's all, I was just a little confused 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:43.400 as to where we were. - That's a good question. 00:07:43.400 --> 00:07:45.060 I should have thought of it at the time, thank you. 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:47.920 - And I think, board, I think that that particular item 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.740 will come back to you as a separate action item 00:07:50.740 --> 00:07:53.800 once that, once we're ready to move forward 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:55.680 with taking that over. 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.960 Usually there's an agreement as well on that. 00:07:57.960 --> 00:07:59.760 - That would be acceptable, thank you. 00:07:59.760 --> 00:08:04.120 - Okay, all right. 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:07.720 There are no more questions. 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.560 All those in favor of this item, please say aye. 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:11.480 - Aye. - Aye. 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:12.920 Any opposed, sign the same. 00:08:14.520 --> 00:08:15.960 We didn't do that, did we? 00:08:15.960 --> 00:08:17.680 Sorry about that. 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.940 We'll entertain a motion before we take a vote 00:08:20.940 --> 00:08:22.120 to approve this item. 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.960 Thank you, we have a motion. 00:08:26.960 --> 00:08:28.360 - Second. - We have a second. 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:29.960 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:08:29.960 --> 00:08:30.800 - Aye. 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.120 - Any opposed, sign the same. 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:34.820 Passes unanimously, item F, similar. 00:08:34.820 --> 00:08:39.820 - Board members, Aaron Skinner, senior project manager, 00:08:39.820 --> 00:08:41.440 Capital Projects. 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.600 So very similar process to the last one, 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.300 a little bit of a larger project. 00:08:45.300 --> 00:08:50.880 And so this one is out on I-35, north of Loop 288, 00:08:50.880 --> 00:08:52.320 almost all the way to Sanger. 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:59.440 And here's the meat and potatoes of that one 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.040 with a much higher reimbursement for this one. 00:09:02.040 --> 00:09:05.400 I'll let you guys kind of read over that 00:09:05.400 --> 00:09:06.960 and any questions on this, yes, sir. 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:09.280 - Could you go back to the photograph? 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:15.520 - Okay, there appear to be some highlighted items there 00:09:15.520 --> 00:09:18.440 on the north side of the road, 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.440 or west side of the, east side of the road. 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:25.440 Are those the locations of the lift station? 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:26.920 - Mr. Rybeck, I'm gonna be honest with you, 00:09:26.920 --> 00:09:29.900 as I look at this photo, this is not a photo of this project. 00:09:29.900 --> 00:09:30.740 (laughing) 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:32.000 That is Fort Worth Drive. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.680 - Oh, that's the previous, that's the same photo. 00:09:35.680 --> 00:09:36.520 - Yes, yeah. 00:09:36.520 --> 00:09:37.340 - I wonder why I was confused. 00:09:37.340 --> 00:09:38.180 - My apologies on that. 00:09:38.180 --> 00:09:39.020 Yeah. 00:09:39.020 --> 00:09:39.860 (laughing) 00:09:39.860 --> 00:09:44.320 We did a relocation program on this site last year, 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:45.280 but my apologies. 00:09:45.280 --> 00:09:46.120 Yes, sir. 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:46.940 - Yeah, it kind of makes my point. 00:09:46.940 --> 00:09:49.120 - I would really like them to see 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.480 where this actually is going 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:53.720 and where these facilities are gonna be located 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:55.980 vis-a-vis the road work. 00:09:55.980 --> 00:09:57.680 - Sure, so the lift station itself 00:09:57.680 --> 00:10:00.280 is gonna go by the TA truck stop. 00:10:00.280 --> 00:10:05.280 And so, and then the lines run pretty much 00:10:05.280 --> 00:10:08.680 on the east side of I-35 and the west side. 00:10:08.680 --> 00:10:10.440 The west side goes behind some properties, 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.120 so there's a little bit of a longer run. 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.560 It doesn't just run along the access road on the west side 00:10:15.560 --> 00:10:17.460 due to some other property issues. 00:10:17.460 --> 00:10:21.600 - I'm not sure that I can visualize that properly. 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.440 (laughing) 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:24.280 Go ahead. 00:10:24.280 --> 00:10:28.440 - Is that also tying into that large residential subdivision 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:29.280 being built there? - Yes, sir. 00:10:29.280 --> 00:10:30.100 Absolutely. 00:10:30.100 --> 00:10:32.160 - Is that the catalyst that's creating this, or no? 00:10:32.160 --> 00:10:33.560 We just, it happens to be there. 00:10:33.560 --> 00:10:35.120 - That's part of it, yes, sir. 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:35.940 - Okay. 00:10:35.940 --> 00:10:37.740 - The widening of TexDOT, TexDOT's widening 00:10:37.740 --> 00:10:39.180 has a lot to do with this, right? 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:40.020 - Yes, sir. 00:10:40.020 --> 00:10:44.680 - It's a $650 million project, 00:10:44.680 --> 00:10:48.480 right beside of what, $125 million project? 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:49.960 - Yes, sir. 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:51.100 - Yeah, Aaron, I don't know if this, 00:10:51.100 --> 00:10:51.940 I mean, this is a customary-- 00:10:51.940 --> 00:10:53.440 - Mr. Aaron, can you answer some questions on that? 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:54.620 - Sure, I'm on up. 00:10:54.620 --> 00:11:00.480 - Gonna answer some questions. 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.720 David Brown, Water Utility Project Manager. 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.400 Actually, there's gonna be a lift station at Ganja Road 00:11:06.400 --> 00:11:08.720 right there at, right there at 35, 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.880 and that's gonna take any flows from the new development. 00:11:11.880 --> 00:11:14.560 And what this also did was, this was called a, 00:11:14.560 --> 00:11:19.400 Mylam, I can't remember the name of the total project, 00:11:19.400 --> 00:11:24.240 but it actually got rid of two lift stations at the, 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.520 one at the TA truck stop and one that was there 00:11:27.520 --> 00:11:29.860 on Bartol Road. 00:11:29.860 --> 00:11:32.160 Used to be where the, I'm dating myself, 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:35.360 where the truck stop was there before the Loves. 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.800 So in this project, we're getting rid of two lift stations 00:11:38.800 --> 00:11:42.960 and actually going a larger gravity line along 35 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:47.920 and going into one regional lift station at Ganja, 00:11:47.920 --> 00:11:50.920 be the Mylam lift station, and we refer to that 00:11:50.920 --> 00:11:53.280 because of the creek up there at Mylam Creek. 00:11:53.280 --> 00:11:56.120 And then once we're able to put in our Clear Creek 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.060 Interceptor, that lift station is actually gonna pump 00:11:59.060 --> 00:12:01.120 into the new Clear Creek Interceptor 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.120 and be able to flow wastewater that way. 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.920 But for right now, this project is actually gonna come back 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:09.220 to town, that's what we call it, 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:11.160 back into Pecan Creek Interceptor 00:12:11.160 --> 00:12:14.840 until we get Clear Creek Interceptor built. 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.040 So it affords us availability to get them those, 00:12:18.040 --> 00:12:21.640 that new development service in a quicker fashion, so. 00:12:21.640 --> 00:12:26.800 - I do appreciate your better description 00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:30.240 of the project's location and scope. 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.740 Is there any reason that the presentation 00:12:32.740 --> 00:12:35.520 did not include an appropriate photograph 00:12:35.520 --> 00:12:37.000 or map of the area? 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.340 - I wasn't in part of the presentation, sir. 00:12:39.340 --> 00:12:43.880 But we can get you a map and display 00:12:43.880 --> 00:12:46.480 of what this project entails. 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:49.560 - I would really appreciate that because I feel stupid 00:12:49.560 --> 00:12:51.120 now that I didn't realize it was stock photo, 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.760 so I'm looking at that going, that doesn't look right. 00:12:53.760 --> 00:12:57.620 - So we're also doing water and wastewater improvements 00:12:57.620 --> 00:13:00.280 on the project along 35 there that better meant. 00:13:00.280 --> 00:13:02.600 So again, some service out there 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:04.500 where we didn't have adequate service. 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:09.520 - Yeah, member Rebecca, I mean, Aaron, 00:13:09.520 --> 00:13:11.440 I don't know if we can pull up a Google Maps up here 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:12.760 and show them the general area 00:13:12.760 --> 00:13:14.520 to see if maybe that would be helpful. 00:13:14.520 --> 00:13:15.480 Would you like that? 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:17.020 - I would very much appreciate that. 00:13:17.020 --> 00:13:19.380 - Okay, take a moment. 00:13:19.380 --> 00:13:25.220 I got you, Rob, I see you over there. 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:34.680 (typing) 00:13:34.680 --> 00:13:57.240 All right, Mr. Ryback, we're looking, 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.080 so you've got loop 288, I don't know, 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:01.040 yeah, the cursor's showing up here. 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:04.280 - There's Mylam Creek. - It's coming all the way up 00:14:04.280 --> 00:14:09.280 here and on this side, coming back down. 00:14:09.280 --> 00:14:13.660 - Okay, so the road you indicated, is that Mylam? 00:14:13.660 --> 00:14:15.440 - Let me get the satellite on there. 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.040 - Mylam Creek Branch Road. 00:14:17.040 --> 00:14:22.780 - Mylam East, yeah. - Yep. 00:14:22.780 --> 00:14:24.360 - Okay. - Yes, sir. 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:25.880 - Okay, this makes a lot more sense. 00:14:25.880 --> 00:14:28.240 Thank you, please continue. - Apologies, yes, sir. 00:14:29.520 --> 00:14:31.880 - So would you like to go back to the slides 00:14:31.880 --> 00:14:33.560 or keep on this description here? 00:14:33.560 --> 00:14:36.180 - I'm sorry, say again. 00:14:36.180 --> 00:14:37.840 - Would you like to go back to the slideshow 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.500 or would you like to keep talking about the map? 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:44.060 - So are all the facilities near this intersection? 00:14:44.060 --> 00:14:47.980 - Yes, sir, so from here down by the loop, 00:14:47.980 --> 00:14:51.000 all up I-35 and the lift station being up in this general. 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:55.000 - So that whole section is going to be replaced? 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:56.640 - Yes, sir, on both sides of the intersection. 00:14:56.640 --> 00:14:58.680 - Relocated, excuse me. - Pretty much already done. 00:14:58.680 --> 00:15:02.800 - Yeah, and Aaron, this one is in progress right now. 00:15:02.800 --> 00:15:04.400 - Aaron and David, can you guys point out 00:15:04.400 --> 00:15:06.520 where the two lift stations are now, 00:15:06.520 --> 00:15:08.800 where the other one's gonna be located? 00:15:08.800 --> 00:15:18.960 - So in all actuality, the lift station's gonna be here. 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:24.240 And, oh, I'm sorry, it's gonna be here at Ganser, my bad. 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:27.400 So it's gonna be at Ganser and what's going on 00:15:27.400 --> 00:15:32.400 is beforehand we had a lift station here by the TA, 00:15:32.400 --> 00:15:35.120 a lift station over here by the, 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:36.560 used to be the Border Cowboy. 00:15:36.560 --> 00:15:39.640 I'm dating myself, but the Border Cowboy. 00:15:39.640 --> 00:15:42.360 And so it would, yeah. 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:43.760 - It's got you all right. 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:46.600 - And so what we were able to do 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:51.440 because of the 35 being widened 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.240 and we were able to actually get rid 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:57.640 of a lift station here, lift station here, 00:15:57.640 --> 00:16:01.320 there was a approach to go a larger pipe 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:05.280 so we can get a grade to go gravity 00:16:05.280 --> 00:16:07.600 all the way to this location. 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:09.640 Gravity here across the road, 00:16:09.640 --> 00:16:12.440 and then a lift station here, 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:14.880 and actually we'll have a force main 00:16:14.880 --> 00:16:18.400 that comes back to Pecan Creek, 00:16:18.400 --> 00:16:21.920 our initial, where we're gonna initially take the flows. 00:16:21.920 --> 00:16:23.400 And then once, like I said, 00:16:23.400 --> 00:16:28.280 once we have our Pecan Creek Interceptor completed, 00:16:28.280 --> 00:16:31.880 then we'll be able to pump it over there 00:16:31.880 --> 00:16:35.160 and take it to Clear Creek. 00:16:35.160 --> 00:16:38.520 - Okay. 00:16:38.520 --> 00:16:39.360 Well, thank you. 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.600 That makes a lot more sense than what we got 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:43.400 that information that we had, 00:16:43.400 --> 00:16:45.640 which other than the photograph was. 00:16:45.640 --> 00:16:50.800 - And what it is, it lets us, 00:16:50.800 --> 00:16:53.160 it's just a good opportunity for us 00:16:53.160 --> 00:16:54.400 to get rid of lift stations, 00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:57.400 which are a big maintenance issue. 00:16:57.400 --> 00:17:00.400 And so when we go gravity, 00:17:00.400 --> 00:17:03.240 that's always, that's a win-win situation 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:04.880 as far as maintenance for its cost. 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.840 And we have one regional solution there for a lift station. 00:17:07.840 --> 00:17:10.840 - Well, that certainly makes good sense. 00:17:10.840 --> 00:17:14.880 And I would appreciate in the future, 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.960 if you would provide us with that kind of visual data. 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:18.800 - Sure. 00:17:18.800 --> 00:17:21.600 - Simple map, locations, what comes out, 00:17:21.600 --> 00:17:23.840 what goes in, what's moved. 00:17:23.840 --> 00:17:25.920 You're increasing the size of the line. 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:27.600 Things like that would be very helpful 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:30.640 'cause I'm always nervous about just consenting 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.480 to five and seven and $8 million items, 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:35.880 even though they may make good sense. 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:37.760 And a great deal of work has gone into the planning 00:17:37.760 --> 00:17:40.240 and preparation of getting to the point 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:41.600 of having the project. 00:17:41.600 --> 00:17:45.800 You're asking us to approve and I'm looking at it. 00:17:45.800 --> 00:17:47.680 You could see, I was looking at MapCon, 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.360 this doesn't make any sense. 00:17:49.360 --> 00:17:51.000 'Cause it wasn't a map, it was a photograph. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.640 And unfortunately, it was a photograph from the other one. 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:56.760 So appreciate a little bit more detailed information 00:17:56.760 --> 00:17:58.760 in the future for this type of project. 00:17:58.760 --> 00:17:59.600 - Yes, sir. 00:17:59.600 --> 00:18:00.420 - Would have been easier to say, 00:18:00.420 --> 00:18:02.200 "Yes, let's just go ahead with it." 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.480 If the information visually and as written 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:07.120 made a little more sense. 00:18:07.120 --> 00:18:09.360 - I can get you to get that as soon as possible to you. 00:18:09.360 --> 00:18:10.200 All right? 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.020 - Thank you. 00:18:11.020 --> 00:18:11.860 - Thanks. 00:18:11.860 --> 00:18:13.760 Is there any more questions on this map before we change? 00:18:13.760 --> 00:18:14.720 I know you've got a question. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:15.560 - I do. 00:18:15.560 --> 00:18:16.380 - Is it on this map? 00:18:16.380 --> 00:18:17.220 - Yes. - Okay. 00:18:17.220 --> 00:18:18.060 - Clear, oh, thank you. 00:18:18.060 --> 00:18:20.840 Clear Creek is the east of all this, is it not? 00:18:20.840 --> 00:18:21.660 - Yes, sir. 00:18:21.660 --> 00:18:22.760 It's over in this location. 00:18:22.760 --> 00:18:23.600 - Okay. 00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:28.040 So then the lift station at Ganzer Road, 00:18:28.040 --> 00:18:32.280 then will it be a dual purpose going towards Pecan 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:33.560 and to Clear Creek? 00:18:33.560 --> 00:18:35.320 Or are you gonna take everything up to Clear Creek 00:18:35.320 --> 00:18:40.320 and then that line that was going down to the truck stop, 00:18:40.320 --> 00:18:44.200 it's still in effect, but it doesn't need a lift station? 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:48.120 - Well, from, so it's kind of, 00:18:48.120 --> 00:18:49.480 if you look at it, it kind of, 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.800 it goes actually gravity to the north, 00:18:52.800 --> 00:18:54.200 which I know that's kind of- 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:55.240 - That's right. 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:56.960 - But we were able to use a larger line 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.920 to get the slope that we needed to get to Ganzer. 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:05.040 And then it goes over across the road to the lift station. 00:19:05.040 --> 00:19:07.640 And initially, because the flows are smaller, 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:10.400 we're able to put a force main there that is smaller 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.760 to get down to Pecan Creek interceptor. 00:19:13.760 --> 00:19:17.880 Pecan Creek area, which is the north part of town there. 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.240 And then once Clear Creek is in 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.560 and where you have a facility for Clear Creek, 00:19:23.560 --> 00:19:27.320 we'll be able to just switch it over to Clear Creek. 00:19:27.320 --> 00:19:30.920 It certainly doesn't mean that we can't have the advantage 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:35.440 of if there is an issue, we can pump back to Pecan 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.560 if we needed to split those flows. 00:19:37.560 --> 00:19:39.000 - Okay, so it could be split. 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.280 Okay, and then I'm through with that slide also. 00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:42.120 Thank you. 00:19:42.120 --> 00:19:43.040 - Okay, thanks. 00:19:44.760 --> 00:19:45.840 - So I have another question. 00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:46.680 - Yes, no? 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:48.040 - Not on that slide, but on- 00:19:48.040 --> 00:19:48.880 - The reimbursement slide? 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:49.720 - Reimbursement. 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:50.560 - Okay. 00:19:50.560 --> 00:19:52.440 - Is the numbers that we're looking for, 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.640 that is for the Ganzer to the truck stop, 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:59.520 the lift station to Clear Creek, 00:19:59.520 --> 00:20:02.240 we're not there yet for numbers or anything, 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:03.400 is that correct? 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:04.240 - No, sir, these- 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:07.600 - This has nothing to do with that. 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:09.320 - On which part, sorry? 00:20:09.320 --> 00:20:12.360 - This $6 million has nothing to do with, 00:20:12.360 --> 00:20:16.000 what we are agreeing to here is nothing to do 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.600 with what will be the Clear Creek line, 00:20:18.600 --> 00:20:20.320 that's down the future, down the road. 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:22.280 - Correct, correct, yes, sir. 00:20:22.280 --> 00:20:23.120 - Additional money later. 00:20:23.120 --> 00:20:23.940 - Yeah, right. 00:20:23.940 --> 00:20:24.780 - Thank you, that's what I was carrying. 00:20:24.780 --> 00:20:27.040 - It's part of the whole plan, of course, right? 00:20:27.040 --> 00:20:27.860 - Okay. 00:20:27.860 --> 00:20:29.640 - All right. 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:36.800 Yeah, I will entertain a motion to approve this item. 00:20:36.800 --> 00:20:37.760 - So moved. 00:20:37.760 --> 00:20:39.200 - We have a motion. 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:40.280 - Second. 00:20:40.280 --> 00:20:41.720 - We have two seconds. 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:42.960 Choose one, Cassie. 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.200 Susan, of course. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.600 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:20:48.600 --> 00:20:49.440 - Aye. 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:50.880 - Any opposed, sign the same. 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:52.280 Thank you very much. 00:20:52.280 --> 00:20:53.200 - Thank you, board. 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:57.160 - All right, we're gonna move on to items 00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.200 for individual consideration. 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.000 First is item A, consider of the approval 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:05.440 of the September 29th, 2025 minutes. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:10.320 Already have a motion and a second. 00:21:10.320 --> 00:21:12.240 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.700 - Aye. 00:21:13.700 --> 00:21:15.320 - Any opposed? 00:21:15.320 --> 00:21:16.480 Passes unanimously. 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:20.240 Item B, consider recommending adoption of orders 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.440 of the City of Ditten, considering all matters instant 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.440 and related to the issuance sale and delivery 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:28.440 of $11,235,000 in principal amount 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.840 of City of Ditten, et cetera. 00:21:40.360 --> 00:21:41.180 All right. 00:21:41.180 --> 00:21:44.880 - Well, good morning, Chair, members of the board, 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:46.800 Matt Hamilton, ADF Finance. 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:48.760 Here this morning to present 00:21:48.760 --> 00:21:51.000 the Texas Water Development Board Utility System 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.520 Revenue Bond Ordinance. 00:21:52.520 --> 00:21:57.200 So as you may recall, the city entered 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:02.200 into a financing agreement with the Texas Water Development 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:07.200 Board on August 19th. 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.960 This is the second year of the financing program 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:15.960 through SWIFT, and the funds for this project 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:20.480 will go toward Ray Roberts Treatment Plant expansion. 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:25.480 The increased treatment capacity will add 20 MGD, 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:31.320 as well as an additional 30 MGD of future capacity. 00:22:31.320 --> 00:22:35.080 For a total new treatment capacity of 50 MGD 00:22:35.080 --> 00:22:39.960 and a total final combined treatment capacity of 70 MGD. 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:43.900 The expansion is intended to be financed with bonds 00:22:43.900 --> 00:22:45.560 through the Texas Water Development Board 00:22:45.560 --> 00:22:47.280 sold over five years. 00:22:47.280 --> 00:22:52.520 So as I mentioned, this is the second year of the program. 00:22:52.520 --> 00:22:56.300 The first issuance was 10.1 million last year. 00:22:56.300 --> 00:23:01.300 This year is 11.235 million. 00:23:01.300 --> 00:23:04.520 These bonds will be issued at a 30-year term 00:23:04.520 --> 00:23:05.880 with reduced interest rates 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.800 through the Texas Water Development Board. 00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:13.040 The board met on October 2nd to determine rates, 00:23:13.040 --> 00:23:18.040 and the city will receive a 14% subsidy. 00:23:18.040 --> 00:23:24.360 And this 4.1% estimated borrowing cost, 00:23:24.360 --> 00:23:28.140 this was a preliminary cost prior to the October 2nd meeting 00:23:28.140 --> 00:23:31.960 just because of the timing of posting the agenda and things. 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:35.720 So the outcome of that meeting with the 14% subsidy, 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:38.680 our rates would be close to 3.32%, 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:42.960 so quite a bit of savings over current market rates. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:44.120 And the reason for that 00:23:44.120 --> 00:23:46.000 is because the Texas Water Development Board 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.880 is AAA rated, so when they go to the market 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:50.880 and issue at that AAA rating 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:54.220 versus our utility system at an A plus rating, 00:23:54.220 --> 00:23:58.960 we are capturing that interest rate savings 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.800 based on the rating of the state program. 00:24:02.800 --> 00:24:05.240 - Okay. 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:10.000 - So next steps, this will go to council, 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.200 and following council approval, 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.700 we will close and deliver on the funds December 3rd. 00:24:15.700 --> 00:24:19.240 - All right. - Any questions? 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.680 - Mr. Wehmeck. - Yes. 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:26.160 - I'm curious, you referred to the subsidy of 14% 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.800 on the rates, so from 4.1 to? 00:24:29.800 --> 00:24:37.600 - So the 4.1% was a prior preliminary rate 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:41.000 before the Texas Water Development Board 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.360 met on October 2nd. 00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:45.400 Once they met on October 2nd 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.460 and determined all the participants in the program, 00:24:48.460 --> 00:24:53.460 the market rates, as well as the state had set up this fund 00:24:53.580 --> 00:24:57.120 and has a pool of cash to subsidize 00:24:57.120 --> 00:25:00.520 the participants in the program, 00:25:00.520 --> 00:25:04.340 they then determined, based on our 30-year term, 00:25:04.340 --> 00:25:08.420 we would be eligible for a 14% subsidy. 00:25:08.420 --> 00:25:12.080 So the market rate is, with the subsidy, 00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:17.040 will be about 3.3% on average over that 30 years, 00:25:17.040 --> 00:25:19.200 which is lower than what we were anticipating 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:20.880 with the 4.1%. 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.520 - Isn't that like a 40% reduction or something? 00:25:25.520 --> 00:25:26.880 - Well, so a couple things change. 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:28.040 I mean, a couple things changed. 00:25:28.040 --> 00:25:31.480 The market changed since this preliminary number, 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:36.480 and we didn't know at the time the subsidy amount as well. 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:41.200 So with the market changes, with that 14% subsidy, 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.400 we'll be close to 3.3%. 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.080 - Oh, that seems excellent. 00:25:45.080 --> 00:25:46.500 - Yeah. - Thank you. 00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:50.780 - Any other questions? 00:25:53.080 --> 00:25:53.920 All right. 00:25:53.920 --> 00:26:00.280 Do we need to take action on this? 00:26:00.280 --> 00:26:01.900 No, I just, okay. 00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:04.700 All right, we have a motion to approve. 00:26:04.700 --> 00:26:07.320 Ms. Parker, we have a second from Mr. Ryback. 00:26:07.320 --> 00:26:08.920 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:09.960 - Aye. 00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:11.200 - Any opposed? 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:12.500 Passes unanimously. 00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:18.020 Item number C, consider recommending adoption of ordinance 00:26:18.020 --> 00:26:20.560 to declare the intent to reimburse capital program 00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:25.560 expenditures of 109 million for the general government, 00:26:25.560 --> 00:26:30.040 of course, for solid waste, 18 million, 249, 00:26:30.040 --> 00:26:35.040 and water utility, 55651, and rest of it's on there, okay. 00:26:35.040 --> 00:26:38.760 You may get the whole thing, okay. 00:26:38.760 --> 00:26:44.800 And the water utility, 55 million, 651,541. 00:26:44.800 --> 00:26:49.880 The wastewater utility, 141 million, 892,454, 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:55.400 and the electric utility, 58 million, 434,588, 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:59.120 with tax preferred obligations, certificates of obligation, 00:26:59.120 --> 00:27:00.920 and general obligation bonds, 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.560 with an aggregate maximum principal amount not to exceed, 00:27:04.560 --> 00:27:09.560 383 million, 998,218, and providing an effective date. 00:27:09.560 --> 00:27:15.400 - Good morning, Randy Klingle, Treasury Manager. 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.360 And I wish I could make that caption shorter too. 00:27:18.360 --> 00:27:19.680 All of mine seem to be really long 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.440 with a lot of dollar amounts. 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.720 So today for you, I have a reimbursement ordinance, 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.480 which is the first step of a bond sale 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.680 anytime we're gonna have a bond sale in the fiscal year. 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:31.760 And the purpose of the reimbursement ordinance 00:27:31.760 --> 00:27:35.160 is for all intensive purposes is for the city 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:39.640 to dedicate and allow and let it be known 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.080 that we're gonna reimburse ourselves 00:27:41.080 --> 00:27:43.760 with proceeds from a future bond sale 00:27:43.760 --> 00:27:45.780 so that the projects can currently get started 00:27:45.780 --> 00:27:47.320 if they have cash revenue 00:27:47.320 --> 00:27:50.000 that they can start these projects with. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.120 The IRS requires that we make that formal intention 00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:57.040 to reimburse ourselves later with those bond proceeds. 00:27:57.040 --> 00:27:59.200 We generally sell the bonds 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:00.560 within 12 months of this ordinance. 00:28:00.560 --> 00:28:02.880 We like to do it in the same fiscal year. 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.280 And the reimbursement is allowed by our city's debt policy. 00:28:06.280 --> 00:28:09.160 And just because we do the reimbursement ordinance 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:13.360 also does not mean we need to actually sell all these bonds. 00:28:13.360 --> 00:28:16.360 We're not tied to that by doing the reimbursement ordinance. 00:28:18.320 --> 00:28:20.840 So for your review, I have the CEO Utilities 00:28:20.840 --> 00:28:24.800 Reimbursements Ordinance Summary for the 25-26 year. 00:28:24.800 --> 00:28:27.240 This total and this summary are all the projects 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.920 that you've already reviewed during the budget process 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:31.320 for the capital improvement plan. 00:28:31.320 --> 00:28:32.760 So you've seen all of the projects. 00:28:32.760 --> 00:28:34.760 These are all the same ones. 00:28:34.760 --> 00:28:37.880 So for solid waste, we have $18.2 million. 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.760 Water is 55.6. 00:28:41.760 --> 00:28:45.040 Wastewater is 141.8 million. 00:28:45.040 --> 00:28:48.240 Electric comes in at 58.4. 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.680 With a total for all utilities for solid waste 00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:52.520 and what's considered the utility system 00:28:52.520 --> 00:28:55.520 with the three utilities is $274,227,583. 00:28:55.520 --> 00:29:00.000 Back that up. 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.720 274,227,583. 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.040 Always a lot of numbers. 00:29:06.040 --> 00:29:09.080 So the detailed project list is in exhibit A 00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:10.360 in the ordinance if you wanna see 00:29:10.360 --> 00:29:11.800 all the detailed line items. 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.560 So what will happen next is in April, 00:29:16.560 --> 00:29:18.560 we will do a Notice of Intent, 00:29:18.560 --> 00:29:21.720 which is also required by the Certificates of Obligation. 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.760 We will in May then consider a bond parameters ordinance 00:29:24.760 --> 00:29:26.160 which will be the final numbers 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.400 that we project out for the bond sale. 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.000 And then June will have the bond sale 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.680 and then July will have received the actual proceeds 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.520 from the final bond sale. 00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:37.200 Any questions? 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.000 - It's a lot of money. 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.120 - Yes, sir. 00:29:41.120 --> 00:29:45.880 - So this is just allowing us to sell the bonds 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.360 if so chosen by the council? 00:29:48.360 --> 00:29:50.280 - Yes, it's allow us to reimburse ourselves 00:29:50.280 --> 00:29:53.560 if we spend any money before we actually get the proceeds. 00:29:53.560 --> 00:29:55.160 Yes, sir. - Okay. 00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:59.600 So this won't actually go into effect until next year? 00:29:59.600 --> 00:30:02.920 - This reimbursement ordinance will be effective 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.600 when council approves it in a couple of weeks. 00:30:05.600 --> 00:30:06.720 I think it's next week. 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.880 And then that will just allow us to use any money 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.240 on these projects before we actually receive the funds, 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.680 which then we'll then reimburse ourselves 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:16.800 with any money that we spent. 00:30:16.800 --> 00:30:18.120 So it'll be the fiscal year. - From those funds 00:30:18.120 --> 00:30:19.720 which will not actually be issued 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.040 until the obligations will be issued until next year? 00:30:23.040 --> 00:30:24.120 - It'll be in the same fiscal year, 00:30:24.120 --> 00:30:25.920 but yes, 2026 in July. 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.160 - Same fiscal year. - Yes. 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:27.980 - Sorry. 00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:31.880 Do we have an idea what we think our rates will be 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.000 for those bonds next year? 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:34.820 - No. 00:30:34.820 --> 00:30:39.720 I would like not to guess. 00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.960 - I'm curious, I mean, we're getting such a good deal. 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.560 (all laughing) 00:30:45.560 --> 00:30:47.720 - You're a healthy woman. 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.720 We do, they do analyze that. 00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.240 And whether we work with our bond counselor 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.880 and our bond advisory, 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:55.520 we're constantly looking at the market 00:30:55.520 --> 00:30:57.280 and they look at the refunding opportunities 00:30:57.280 --> 00:30:58.400 and those things. 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.240 And so when we do go to market, 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:02.520 we will look at those conditions. 00:31:02.520 --> 00:31:03.360 And sometimes-- 00:31:03.360 --> 00:31:04.680 - Well, if we were to go to the market now, 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.560 what would the rate be? 00:31:06.560 --> 00:31:08.720 - You know, I don't even know if I know that right now. 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.600 I have not even investigated that. 00:31:10.600 --> 00:31:12.420 I don't know if Matt, you have anything? 00:31:12.420 --> 00:31:13.520 Current rate might be. 00:31:13.520 --> 00:31:21.800 - Yeah, I think we've seen recent rates, 00:31:21.800 --> 00:31:27.500 high 3%, low 4% area. 00:31:27.500 --> 00:31:33.920 We can pull the data for the most recent bond sale in 2025 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.520 and follow up with you in a management report. 00:31:38.520 --> 00:31:41.240 Detailing what that cost looked like, 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.520 but four to four and a quarter percent 00:31:44.520 --> 00:31:47.400 would be pretty typical. 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:48.320 - Okay, I was just curious. 00:31:48.320 --> 00:31:50.880 It seems like we're in a rate environment 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.560 where there's an expectation they're going to fall. 00:31:53.560 --> 00:31:56.040 So I was just curious if we had some thoughts 00:31:56.040 --> 00:31:57.120 about where that might be going. 00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:58.640 So yes, I'd appreciate that report. 00:31:58.640 --> 00:31:59.480 Thank you. 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:00.300 - Sure. 00:32:00.300 --> 00:32:01.360 - Thanks. 00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:02.200 Mr. Ritter? 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:03.040 No, you got it? 00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:03.860 Okay. 00:32:03.860 --> 00:32:05.960 All right. 00:32:07.840 --> 00:32:09.140 Any more questions? 00:32:09.140 --> 00:32:12.420 Not entertain a motion for that big money. 00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:17.480 Mr. Newquist and second for Mr. Rapet. 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.000 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:20.840 - Aye. 00:32:20.840 --> 00:32:22.440 - Any opposed, sign the same. 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:23.780 Thank you, Ms. Taylor. 00:32:23.780 --> 00:32:27.240 All right. 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.920 Now we're moving on to this calendar. 00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.240 I believe a meeting schedule. 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.600 I believe everybody has a copy of this. 00:32:33.600 --> 00:32:35.000 All members do. 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.960 If there's any that you want to discuss, 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.720 they move the May as usual. 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.080 And then we have the holiday, 00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:45.320 each holiday that might be a conflict. 00:32:45.320 --> 00:32:52.080 - Good morning, PUB members. 00:32:52.080 --> 00:32:54.680 I'm going to pull this up for you real quick. 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.560 Get a little bigger. 00:32:56.560 --> 00:32:57.600 So this morning I have for you 00:32:57.600 --> 00:33:01.480 the proposed 2026 PUB meeting schedule. 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.520 The meetings will continue to be held 00:33:03.520 --> 00:33:06.480 on the second and fourth Mondays of each month, 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.720 with the exception of the May, November, 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:11.720 and December meetings, 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.200 which deviate slightly just due to the holidays. 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.760 But I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. 00:33:17.760 --> 00:33:21.000 - All right. 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.480 I don't think this needs an action or anything. 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.720 It's just a discussion. 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:27.960 If you have anything going forward, 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.760 be sure and put it out there to Cassie or Tony. 00:33:30.760 --> 00:33:33.760 - We're actually asking for approval. 00:33:33.760 --> 00:33:34.600 - Okay, all right. 00:33:34.600 --> 00:33:36.680 All right, entertain a motion 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.560 to approve this schedule as it is proposed. 00:33:39.560 --> 00:33:40.400 - So moved. 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.400 - It's not supposed to be for action, 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.680 but if you want to give them direction, 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:46.880 I think they can change the schedule 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.040 without you getting a motion. 00:33:48.040 --> 00:33:48.880 - Gotcha. 00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:53.400 Everybody good so far? 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:54.220 Everybody good? 00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:55.160 Okay, there you go. 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.560 Thank you. 00:33:58.560 --> 00:34:00.060 All right, management reports. 00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:04.160 - So Mr. Chair, members of the board, 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.760 today we don't have any new business action items, 00:34:06.760 --> 00:34:09.080 although I've heard two requests from today 00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:10.400 that we'll go ahead and put on, 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:14.640 and we'll work with Public Works and also with Matt 00:34:14.640 --> 00:34:18.120 to get you that information back to you as soon as possible. 00:34:18.120 --> 00:34:21.280 And then for future items, 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.120 just again, the only reminder we have here 00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:24.720 is first meeting in January 00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:27.200 will be our officer election date. 00:34:27.200 --> 00:34:31.120 And so again, as we're kind of moving towards that, 00:34:31.120 --> 00:34:32.440 please be thinking about that. 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.200 We have reached out to our current, 00:34:34.200 --> 00:34:36.280 or we'll be reaching out to our current officers 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.640 to see kind of where they are going into next year. 00:34:39.640 --> 00:34:41.200 So that's all I have, 00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:43.200 unless you have any other questions for me. 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:47.680 - I have a question for you. 00:34:47.680 --> 00:34:49.840 I'd like to ask legal counsel. 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.680 Last, I did not vote for the approval for the minutes 00:34:52.680 --> 00:34:56.280 because I recused myself for part of that meeting 00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:57.560 for continuity. 00:34:57.560 --> 00:34:59.720 Should it be noted that I abstained 00:34:59.720 --> 00:35:01.440 on approving the minutes? 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:08.240 - That vote already happened. 00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:10.800 So you don't have to abstain 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.400 just because you weren't in a meeting. 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:14.520 It's not necessary. 00:35:14.520 --> 00:35:18.960 If you're asking to reconsider that motion. 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.720 - I'm just asking for the smooth continuity. 00:35:22.720 --> 00:35:25.200 I didn't want it to cause any friction later 00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:26.120 on down the road. 00:35:26.120 --> 00:35:28.840 - I don't know. 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.720 I guess that would be other board members, 00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:31.760 whether that would cause friction. 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.960 But I think it was on, 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.200 we recorded that that was a unanimous vote in this meeting. 00:35:36.200 --> 00:35:39.560 So it's gonna be on the record that you did not abstain. 00:35:39.560 --> 00:35:43.120 You voted in the affirmative, but that's not, 00:35:43.120 --> 00:35:45.600 there's no legal issue with you doing that or- 00:35:45.600 --> 00:35:48.800 - Yeah, I mean, it's on a video in case you ever weren't, 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.200 he could have reviewed it on video. 00:35:50.200 --> 00:35:52.040 So we'll just, we'll assume that. 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.520 >> All right, we stand adjourned.