1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,880 Good evening and welcome to the September 24th 2025 meeting of the Planning and 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,000 Zoning Commission. At 532 I will call our work session to order. Please note at 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,120 this time commissioners Pruitt, Riggs, and McDade are absent from the meeting. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,080 The first item on our work session agenda for this evening is an item for 5 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:24,000 individual consideration PZ 25 187, elect an acting chair for the Planning and 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Zoning Commission's September 24th 2025 meeting and that will be for the work 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,500 session and the regular session. So at this time I will open it up for you all 8 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:40,440 to have a nomination for that. Yes, Commissioner McDuff. Yes I'd like to 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,960 nominate Commissioner Lisa Dyer to serve as acting chair for this meeting and 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,760 just want to say out loud that I think she would be a good fit. She's a senior 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,120 member on the committee that's present this evening. She's a successful 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,240 realtor and has a knowledge of processes and terminology and also she's a proven 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,120 leader in our other organizational memberships. Thank you. Is there a second? 14 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Yes Commissioner Garland. I'll second that. All right and we can do a hand vote as 15 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:19,360 long as you're willing to accept the nomination. Yes I will accept. All right so 16 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,800 I will call for a vote. Everyone raise their hand. There an aye. All right four 17 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,520 ayes so you may bring your name tag and agenda and join us here in the middle. 18 00:01:54,040 --> 00:02:10,660 Where do I start at? Okay at this time we will call for citizen comments. There is 19 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:17,680 nobody present so there's no citizen comments. Okay is there any clarification 20 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:24,580 of agenda items listed on the agenda for this meeting? Okay we will go ahead and 21 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:31,440 go down to the the minutes. Do we have any questions on the minutes or any 22 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:49,520 motions? Oh clarifications on the minute sorry. I'm a newbie. No clarifications? Okay 23 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,120 we're gonna go ahead and move on to the consent agenda. We will look at consent 24 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:03,920 agenda a FP 2 5 - 0 0 1 8 C considering our request by double our Devco LLC and 25 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:10,560 Hickory Grove residential community for a final plot of Hickory Grove phase 4. 26 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:25,440 Good evening Planning and Zoning Commission Matt Bourdine assistant planner. Here is Subin 27 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Infamia Hine. She's the reviewer of this plot but this is a an approximately 114 28 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,640 acre site located south of Jackson Road and approximately 80 feet east of the 29 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,520 intersection of Nail Road and Jackson Road in the city of Denton's ETJ 30 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Division 1. This plot staff is recommending approval of as it complies 31 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,880 with the established criteria for approval. I'm here to answer any 32 00:03:52,880 --> 00:04:04,440 questions. Does anybody have any questions? We do not. Sweet. Thank you. 33 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:12,280 Okay moving on to the consent agenda. We've got now the individuals for item 34 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:21,840 I'm sorry for individual consideration. Number a letter a PP 2 5 - 0 0 3a. We're 35 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:25,640 going to consider a request by Kim Lee Horn and Associates on behalf of Razor 36 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:34,960 Investments LTD for a preliminary plat of C5 LC Razor Ranch Edition. Good evening 37 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Chair and members of the Commission. Erin Stanley assistant planner. This is a 38 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:47,000 plot for approximately 76 acres generally located south of US 380 west 39 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,240 of I-35 and north of Jim Crystal Road. At this time it does not meet our criteria 40 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,980 for approval so staff does recommend a denial. However this applicant did 41 00:04:56,980 --> 00:05:00,920 submit a extension request earlier today and this should have been emailed to you 42 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:06,040 just prior to the start of this meeting. So we are have no objection to their 43 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:14,960 requested extension to a date certain of October 22nd 2025. Does anybody have any 44 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:21,960 questions? Any commissioners? Okay thank you so much. Moving along to letter B V 45 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:29,000 2 5 0 0 6 1. Consider a request by Ron and Elizabeth Langham for approval of a 46 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:35,760 subdivision variance from the 2019 Denton Development Code subsection 8.3.2 47 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,000 point C point 2a regarding the maximum number of residential lots permitted to 48 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:47,160 take access from a private access access easement. Good evening 49 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Matt Burdine assistant planner. I'm here presenting the subdivision 50 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,040 variance request. I want to begin by explaining a little bit about what these 51 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,320 are since we have some newer people on the Commission. So when an applicant comes 52 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,200 in and is facing a hardship and meeting our platting and subdivision 53 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,840 requirements they may apply for a subdivision variance request which comes 54 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:17,880 before this body for approval. As part of that request staff looks at and they 55 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,640 need to meet four items for consideration. Generally these are first 56 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,400 that must not cause any detriment to the public. There must be something about the 57 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:37,360 surrounding that's causing a hardship. Third it doesn't violate any planning or 58 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,880 guiding documents for the city and fourth that it's not a result of the 59 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:48,040 action of the applicant. This particular subdivision request is for a piece of 60 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,560 property located about 5,500 feet north of loop 288 and over a thousand feet 61 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:03,080 east of FM 2164 or North Locust Street in the city of Denton's ETJ 1. This 62 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,360 subdivision request is associated with the final plat that's also be considered 63 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,200 tonight. They're proposing to subdivide their property into three lots two for 64 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:20,840 residential. Currently this property has access via private access easement that 65 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,440 has nine months and so because of that they are requesting a subdivision 66 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:31,440 variance to allow more than three residential lots access a private drive. 67 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:38,240 Staff reviews found that it meets all the criteria for or all the 68 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,840 considerations for approval of subdivision variance. We'll get more into 69 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:49,560 that later in the presentation tonight. Ultimately recommending approval. I'm 70 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:57,680 here to answer any questions or concerns. Any commissioners have questions? I do. 71 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Yeah. I'm just looking at the plat and you see the one on the far left but then 72 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:13,160 it's like lot two block A is kind of in the middle of everything going around it. 73 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Is that where there's going to be the agriculture stuff left? Correct. Yes that 74 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,920 lot three that kind of wraps around is the agricultural lot. So just from my 75 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:31,520 vantage point my knowledge base the decision-making that went into having 76 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:38,520 it divided that way why would you not have like residential residential and 77 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:45,000 everything else like farm like why the weird like shape like yeah what's the 78 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:55,560 backstory on this? Yes so the as the code does discourage irregular shape lots it 79 00:08:55,560 --> 00:09:00,760 was I can't point out if that doesn't prohibit them that in order for an ag 80 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,320 exemption to apply to lot three the whole thing has to be continuous is what 81 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:12,960 they brought up. Additionally lot two on that lot currently is the site of their 82 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:19,040 existing well and so they wanted to keep that on a residential lot and then they 83 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:25,040 want space in between the two residential lots so that was their 84 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:32,160 justification for why they want the lots this way. So on that I'm going to assume 85 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,920 it's the eastern border there of lot two why not just make that one great big 86 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,280 line and then lot two is now super huge so you have a lot of space and then 87 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:49,200 everything on the east side of that is the the farmland is it now we don't have 88 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:56,240 enough farmland to get their exemptions that they're looking for? So there was 89 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:05,000 recommendations made to the owners this is the layout the insisted upon and so 90 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:12,200 that's I have for you. And on the south end of that is that where the road is 91 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:19,040 that connects all it like this? Yeah so the highlighted blue part is so is the 92 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:24,680 right-of-way reservation for a future primary arterial and so and then the 93 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:31,880 access easement is along their south property border. They wanted the least 94 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:37,080 amount of those residential lots in that right-of-way reservation so hence the 95 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:46,320 way it's oriented. So personally that is just odd to me and what are I'm going to 96 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:55,760 ask from a lawyer advantage what are our parameters if you know especially 97 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,280 hearing that the city did do some recommendations that that is not the 98 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:07,280 most ideal what are our parameters as commissioners of approving not approving 99 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,520 all of this? Absolutely so there are two matters on this property that are before 100 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,160 you right now I just want to point out that we're talking about the variance at 101 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,200 this particular instance that's going to be governed by the criteria for approval 102 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,560 that Matt's going to discuss in further detail. The second item the Platt 103 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:30,040 approval is where there's a little bit more state law 104 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:36,880 constrainment on to how and when to vote. State law says the Platt approval is 105 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,640 largely a ministerial act and that means that if you as a commissioner agree with 106 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:49,040 staff's analysis that the Platt meets approval meets the listed criteria that 107 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,240 are in the staff report and in the DDC then essentially you have an obligation 108 00:11:54,240 --> 00:12:00,040 to vote to approve. A recommendation in the past for commissioners who want to 109 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:08,440 vote against a Platt is that they need to say so in the discussion phase they 110 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:15,040 need to give a recitation to this particular standard they don't believe 111 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,560 has been accomplished so they need to explain why with the reference to state 112 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:26,360 statute or pardon me to the DDC. Am I correct Haley? Yeah to the DDC. So 113 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,360 basically from what I read in the agenda they and I know we're not really on the 114 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Platt but to me it's all kind of merging together. The approval of the Platt 115 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:43,520 hinges on the approval of the variance. Correct. So what is the city and in the 116 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:51,020 city I feel like there was a little vagueness in the city's recommendation 117 00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:57,400 for all of this so what is what is the city's viewpoint on the variance in 118 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,600 this and was this something that the neighbors had to get notified how are 119 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 the neighbors feeling does this not really affect the neighbor it's just 120 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,900 really these homeowners that it really just affects. So for subdivision 121 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:15,720 variances and and the final plot public notification is not required so we didn't 122 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:24,440 send out any mailings to the to the neighbors. The as city's position on the 123 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:30,080 variances is recommended approval it's purely about can you have more than 124 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,880 three residential lots off of this existing private access drive decisions 125 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,920 regarding the lot I mean as city staff has recommended approval of the final 126 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:49,320 plot but as decisions with regards to the layout as we've been discussing 127 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:59,280 would be more appropriate for decision being made on the plot. I would just 128 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,840 chime in the the shape of the lots does not necessarily affect the variance to 129 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Matt's point it's regarding the number of lots that is the matter for discussion 130 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:14,640 with the variance. We did find that they meet the criteria for approval for this 131 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,440 variance with respect to the lot shape and as Matt pointed out are the way the 132 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,880 DDC is worded it does not prohibit irregularly shaped lots it says they 133 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,080 are discouraged so while Matt did make recommendations and suggestions for ways 134 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,120 that they could make the lots more regularly shaped ultimately it is up to 135 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,740 the property owner in this instance if they wish to have irregularly shaped 136 00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:46,380 lots. Commissioner McDuff. Yes ma'am thank you I think we might find an answer in 137 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:51,920 exhibit five where we have a narrative and just to say that this is a going to 138 00:14:51,920 --> 00:15:00,000 be a retirement home for the Lanning Hams and they're putting in the lot one 139 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,600 their kids and then they'll be living in want to live in lot two and then the 140 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,520 agriculture around them so it may just be something as simple as dividing the 141 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:19,040 property home lots. Chair if I may we're kind of getting into deliberation and 142 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,640 that's not really what we're fixing to do in this part of the work session okay 143 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,360 but these are all great things to put a pin in and bring back up in the open 144 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:37,520 community. Any other questions? Okay thank you. I do have one other question I'm 145 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:43,680 sorry I was moving paper do we have a separate motion then will we vote and 146 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,640 there will be a motion on this proposal and then another motion on the other 147 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,080 proposal they go together but yeah. You have to approve the variance first yeah 148 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:59,000 and then depending on how that goes and that kind of dictates how or helps in 149 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:08,080 the decision-making on the plat. Okay so we will go ahead and move into the FP 150 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:14,240 25-0030 considering the requests by landmark surveyors on behalf of Ron 151 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Elizabeth Langham for approval of a final plat for lots one through three 152 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:27,880 block A 697 Pecan Creek edition. Yes yeah here to present a request for the final 153 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,440 plot associated with the variance that we just discussed to create three lots 154 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:40,280 of 11 acre tract. As I slightly misspoke you the earlier staff's recommendation at 155 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:46,040 this time is dependent on PNZ's decision regarding the variance if the 156 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Commission approves of subdivision variance staff is recommending approval 157 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:57,640 of this final plot and then vice versa if the Commission denies the subdivision 158 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,400 variance staff is then recommending now of this plot. Do we have any other 159 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:15,360 further questions? Okay thank you. Okay moving on to FP 25-0027 consider a 160 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:20,280 request by McAdams on behalf of the property owner RDO equipment for a 161 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,440 final plot of the RDO edition. Good evening chair members of the Commission 162 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,840 Ashley Eckstead associate planner. This is FP 25-27 RDO equipment. This is a 163 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,600 request for a final plat for a 10 acre property on the south side of US 380 164 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,800 west of Mosh Branch Road. At this time staff is recommending denial but we do 165 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:46,040 not have an objection to the requested extension till October 22nd. Do we have 166 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:54,040 any questions? Okay thank you. FP 25-0028 consider a request by 167 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,400 Manhard Consulting on behalf of the property owner Kana Capital for a final 168 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,480 plot of the reserve at Brush Creek. Good evening Angie Manglars development 169 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,880 review manager. This is a final plot for the reserve at Brush Creek. It is located 170 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,560 at the northeast corner of US 377 and Brush Creek Road. The purpose of this 171 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,400 final plot is to plot 42 residential lots zoned to plan development. At this 172 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 time staff is recommending denial as it does not comply with all of our criteria 173 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,280 for approval but we have no objection to the requested extension to a date 174 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:31,280 certain of October 22nd. Happy to answer any questions. Do we have any questions? 175 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:42,240 Thank you. Okay now we move into the public hearing section. Z 25-0012 176 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,680 we're going to be holding a public hearing and consider making a 177 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,160 recommendation to the City Council regarding a request to rezone 178 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,240 approximately one acre of land from Mixed Use to Neighborhood MN Zoning 179 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:59,300 District to Suburban Corridor SC Zoning District generally located south of Loop 180 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:03,960 288 Service Road and north of Randall Street approximately 800 feet west of 181 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,760 East Sherman Drive in the City of Denton. Thank you Erin Stanley assistant planner 182 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,560 and we are trying to look something a little bit different with this so this 183 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,560 and the next item I have one presentation for in the main session 184 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,440 they'll still be two separate public hearings but I'll still just give one 185 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:33,840 presentation. So that means we will also cover item B Z25-0016. Thank you. 186 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,760 So I'll give just a quick summary in work session so this is a request to 187 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,680 rezone two properties to approximately one acre lots from Mixed Use 188 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,640 Neighborhood District to Suburban Corridor. We're putting these together 189 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,760 since they are right next to each other and the requests are very similar same 190 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,560 zoning districts so this these are both generally located south of Loop 288 and 191 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,080 north of Randall Street and west of East Sherman Drive. The purpose of these 192 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,160 requests are to facilitate development of commercial uses consistent with the 193 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:13,640 adjacent zonings and other plans developments approximate or to the east and 194 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,520 this is consistent with the comprehensive plan and future land use map and staff 195 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,160 is recommending approval. I'll have a longer presentation in the main session 196 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:29,320 but I'll be happy to answer any questions. Commissioner, do you have any questions? We do not. 197 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:36,120 Thank you. Thank you. Moving along to Z25-0011 hold a public hearing and consider 198 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:40,440 making a recommendation to the City Council regarding a city initiated 199 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,120 zoning change from Public Facilities District to Mixed Use Downtown District 200 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:49,200 on approximately 1.08 acres and from Mixed Use Neighborhood District to 201 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:56,920 Mixed Use Downtown on approximately 42.62 acres. Thank you. Good evening Chair 202 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,120 and members of the Commission. Sean Jacobson, Associate Planner here to 203 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:06,480 present Z25-11 expanding opportunities in southern downtown. For some of you 204 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,720 this will be somewhat familiar information from the work session we had 205 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,280 for others this will be new information but essentially this is a request to 206 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:21,240 rezone 43.7 acres from a public facility and MN zoning to mixed use 207 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,160 downtown zoning. To give you a little background this area which I'll be 208 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,200 referring to as southern downtown essentially south of Sycamore down to 209 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:35,840 Eagle from 2002 to 2019 was zoned downtown commercial general same zoning 210 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,000 as we saw around the square essentially we had one downtown core zoning cover 211 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,240 this entire area however in 2019 when the entire city transitioned to new 212 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,160 zoning districts the time of the adoption of the new DDC this southern 213 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,760 downtown area did not transition to the new mixed use downtown zoning district 214 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,240 there were a number of reasons but a main one most likely was because the 215 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,920 area was covered by floodplain and so it was not anticipated that we would see 216 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,080 much redevelopment there and so the thought was well downtown core zoning 217 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,840 doesn't necessarily make sense in this area because it can't develop in that 218 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,880 way however in 2024 we completed a city project to remove this area from the 219 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,640 floodplain suddenly development redevelopment adaptive reuse was possible 220 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,120 for the first time in years we had an opportunity for this to develop like the 221 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:31,040 rest of downtown so 2024 we had the design downtown Denton plan process 222 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,560 looking at the next 20 years of downtown as part of that we identified and the 223 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,500 community identified that this is an area of great opportunity for our 224 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:43,120 downtown and so one of the recommendations of that plan approved by 225 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,740 council and of course supported by the planning and zoning Commission was that 226 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:50,640 we pursue a new southern downtown in this area so that we work to facilitate 227 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,640 developing new shops residential areas more activity in that southern downtown 228 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,800 area the first step that was recommended by the design downtown Denton plan was 229 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,820 that staff study rezoning this area to MD essentially giving it back that 230 00:23:05,820 --> 00:23:12,480 downtown zoning that it had had from 2002 to 2019 so staff went ahead and did 231 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,960 an extensive analysis of that area and here's essentially what we came back 232 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,560 with the future land use map the comprehensive plan designates the entire 233 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,960 area as downtown Denton so it's very much consistent with the future land use to 234 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,640 zone this area makes to use downtown that would restore the downtown zoning 235 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,520 to this area and would give property owners in the area more flexibility to 236 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,200 develop in the same way that property owners closer to the square can develop 237 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,160 those MD standards that we come into play would also help to make it easier 238 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,120 to develop mixed-use developments it makes infill development on smaller lots 239 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:53,000 more possible it makes easier to develop different housing options so town homes 240 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,320 become easier develop as well as small multifamily key downtown uses like bars 241 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,880 and craft brewery become develop you can develop by right instead of needing an 242 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,360 SCP so essentially those things that allow you to develop in a downtown way 243 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:10,800 become much more possible with this zoning change so staff was leaning in 244 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,980 favor of this but we wanted to make sure we also talked to the community we held 245 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:19,840 two community meetings in May presented our findings to the attendees and after 246 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,120 robust discussion both of those meetings the attendees were unanimously in 247 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:30,360 support of the zoning change so staff's recommendation is that the area you see 248 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:34,640 there that forty three point seven acres be rezoned to mixed use downtown it's 249 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,040 consistent with our comprehensive plan it's consistent with the recommendations 250 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,080 of the design downtown Denton twenty-year plan for the area and it does 251 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,040 also comply with our criteria for approval for zoning changes which I'll 252 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,700 discuss more in my main meeting presentation with that I'm happy to 253 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:54,080 answer any and all questions you may have thank you 254 00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:08,200 does anybody have any questions yes mr. Jacobson how does this recommendation how 255 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680 is it different from the information that we heard in our work session 256 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:18,200 presentation on July 23rd it should be roughly exactly the same okay excellent 257 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:25,840 another comment is that I am thankful that you have managed to brought forth 258 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,400 the change in ordinance that recognizes the current single-family residential 259 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:37,600 dwellings that are legal and conforming yes ma'am I think that was a point of 260 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:44,560 contention the other may I proceed I'll have one more yes chair I notice the 261 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:51,640 comments that we got in the mail today in the email today and over the weekend 262 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:58,920 one of those was from an automotive person will those have a special use 263 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:08,280 permit I know so happening to respond or if you had any more to the question I'm 264 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:15,240 happy yes that was it that was my last one so it is it is correct that for minor 265 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,760 automotive uses those are not a permitted use within the MD zoning 266 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,680 district so we would not see new minor automotive uses being developed if this 267 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,800 passes however any legally existing use at this time can continue operating on 268 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,780 into the future essentially for as long as they want to continue to do that and 269 00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:39,280 they maintain the use they can sell it to a new business that business continue 270 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,240 to do it for example major automotive has not been a permitted use in this 271 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,760 area for I think over a decade and we still have many of those same major 272 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,280 automotive uses that we've had they've continued operating just as they would 273 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,720 have so that our protections for what we call non-conforming uses are very robust 274 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,120 and they will be all in place for those existing minor and I'm just asking that 275 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:08,800 question because we had a comment and a comment Sean so I'm sure we get back to 276 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:15,120 all those people on their questions but absolutely okay thank you any other 277 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:24,880 questions okay thank you moving on to CA 25 - to the city of Denton planning and 278 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,880 zoning Commission will hold a public hearing and consider making a 279 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280 recommendation to City Council regarding a comprehensive plan amendment on 280 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,040 approximately thirty four point five acres from rural areas future land use 281 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:42,600 designation to light industrial future shim generally located south of US 380 282 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,420 beginning a half a mile east of Gisling Road and extending approximately half a 283 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:55,320 mile east to North Trinity Road thank you Aaron Stanley assistant planner so 284 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,160 this is a city initiated request for a future land use map amendment of 285 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,240 approximately 57 acres this is located on the far northeast side of town 286 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,840 indicated with the star in the top right map there and we are going to talk about 287 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,760 this in two different areas there's two recommendations for the area so area one 288 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,960 is shown in yellow this is approximately thirty four point five acres the current 289 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,360 future land use map designation is rural areas for this part and we are 290 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:29,920 recommending changing this to light industrial the second area circled in 291 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:36,280 orange is approximately 22.5 acres this is existing low residential designation 292 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,240 today and we are proposing amending the future land use map designation to 293 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,400 community mixed use we are recommending approval of both of these and I have a 294 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,000 few background slides I want to go through during work session as well so 295 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,840 before we dive in I kind of wanted to put this request in perspective with our 296 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,760 larger development process so the comprehensive plan Sean talked about it 297 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,760 others have talked about it's that 20-year vision guidebook for the city 298 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,320 and within this comprehensive plan we have the future land use map so in this 299 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,340 future land use map it's a bigger picture for what types of land uses in 300 00:29:10,340 --> 00:29:14,720 different parts of the city we want to see you see that's there's not as many 301 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,240 colors as in the zoning map it's not as as detail that just would highlight 302 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,480 things of residential area commercial area industrial area and this is what 303 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,160 we're discussing today that future land use map not zoning zoning is where you 304 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,280 get more detailed it's at the parcel level you see more colors on that map 305 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,080 that's where it determines if you can have a single-family home or an office a 306 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,520 restaurant those specific uses but all of that is intended to match the future 307 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:50,680 land use map designation and it's a tool to carry out that future land use map so 308 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,880 just keeping in mind as we're going through the discussion this this request 309 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,840 does not change any zoning of properties today only that future land use map and 310 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:05,160 then some background on the project why we're looking at this specific area not 311 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,200 the entire corridor so staff began this corridor study because we received in 312 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,760 the last year year and a half several development inquiries in the area that 313 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,120 do not match the current zoning designation or the future land use 314 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,960 designation this kind of indicates to us that maybe something something might be 315 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,000 wrong in the area to take a look at that it's also identified in the 316 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,320 comprehensive plan as a gateway into the city for staff to look further at so 317 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,680 approximately nine months ago we began this corridor study we looked at things 318 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,680 like existing conditions those two photos are from this from the site we 319 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,880 see a lot of single-family homes vacant lots there are some there's some 320 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,280 agriculture some driveways into the ETJ where we see more commercial and 321 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,280 industrial uses in the area but along the corridor itself it's a lot of vacant 322 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,280 and single-family properties with driveways directly onto 380 we also 323 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,720 looked at the development history of the area existing zoning annexation pattern 324 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,120 and transportation had some meetings with our transportation department and 325 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,400 text dot and some of their proposed changes for the area some of you might be 326 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,440 aware of the anticipated 380 and 288 connector this is anticipated to be 327 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,840 completed a roughly through 2030 and that would be approximately half a mile 328 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:33,280 west of the subject area for the subject area longer term they anticipate a 329 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,520 freeway conversion where the freeway would be free flowing all the way 330 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,960 towards Frisco and they would have service roads on the north and south with 331 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,760 with intersections signaled intersections so this would be a big 332 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,200 change to the area and influence what types of developments come in also 333 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:58,280 wanted to mention we we came before this body in April for the work session not a 334 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,000 lot has changed with that recommendation has stayed the same this body 335 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,040 recommended that we go out and talk with the community was already our plan but we 336 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,520 did have four community meetings two in person and two virtual and all who 337 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,240 attended those agreed with staffs recommendation thought that this was 338 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,720 appropriate for the area and and liked the suggestion I will have a longer 339 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,440 presentation in the main session but I'll be happy to answer any questions 340 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,640 commissioners you have any questions 341 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Commissioner McDowell this is a comment where is the environmentally sensitive 342 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,880 area so there is some ESA further towards the east it comes in a little 343 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,640 bit into the subject area but where you see the Elm Fork Trinity River that area 344 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,400 gets into some ESA it's really on the outskirts of this area there's some 345 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,080 some corners where it comes in but mostly to the east okay and how we're 346 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,680 going to manage that the same way we do for all developments that come in if 347 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,040 there is any suspected ESA on the property they have to do their ESA field 348 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320 assessment if they're impacting it they might have to go through that alternative 349 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:19,760 ESA usually they just would not impact it in this case any other questions okay 350 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,160 thank you 351 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,280 okay is there any other comments or discussions by the commissioners or the 352 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:45,200 staff we will go ahead and close out today's work session we will see you in 353 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:54,680 the main chambers at 630 for our regular meeting good evening welcome to the City 354 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,560 of Netons planning and zoning Commission on Wednesday September 24th we do have a 355 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,040 quorum today of commissioners so we are going to start our meeting we will begin 356 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,960 with the pledge to the United States flag and then to the Texas flag 357 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:42,800 I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God one and indivisible we will begin by 358 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,080 considering approval of the minutes from the September 10th 2025 planning and 359 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,280 zoning meeting minutes is there any discussion over the minutes from our 360 00:34:52,280 --> 00:35:07,680 last meeting do we have a motion do we have a second okay we have a motion is 361 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:14,400 our motion to approve yes our motion to approve the September 10th 2025 planning 362 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:22,520 and zoning meeting minutes commissioner and you're second I second okay all in 363 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,840 favor of approving the minutes from September 10th 2025 364 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:38,560 okay they pass unanimously four to zero we will go ahead and move into our 365 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:47,880 consent agenda for the evening we will begin with a FP 25 - zero zero 18 C we 366 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,000 are going to consider a request by double our Devco LLC and Hickory Grove 367 00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:02,160 Residential Community Inc for a final plat of Hickory Grove phase four okay 368 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:14,000 thank you do we have a motion Commissioner Mcduff like to move approval 369 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,960 of a final plat for the double our Devco and Hickory Grove Residential Community 370 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:27,160 Incorporated for a final plat okay and a second I second okay go ahead and place 371 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:45,920 your vote okay the motion is passed four to zero we will now move into the evening 372 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,560 where we have individual items for individual consideration the first one 373 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:57,720 is PP 25 - 3a we're going to consider a request by Kim Lee Horn and Associates 374 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:03,200 on behalf of razor investments limited for a preliminary plat of c5 LC razor 375 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,960 ranch edition 376 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,600 good evening Aaron Stanley assistant planner this is a plat for approximately 377 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:18,560 76 acres generally located south of US 380 west of I 35 and north of Jim Crystal 378 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,080 Road at this time the plot does not meet our criteria for approval and the 379 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,720 applicant has requested an extension to the date certain date certain of October 380 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:32,360 22nd 2025 and staff has no objection to that extension I'll stand for any 381 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:40,800 questions commissioners are there any questions okay do we have a motion 382 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,600 Commissioner is it catcher said and we do want to welcome you tonight to your 383 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,720 very first meeting so thank you for joining us 384 00:37:50,720 --> 00:38:02,160 so I'm motion to adopt approve the extension to the date that was stated by 385 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:26,680 the city okay okay we'll take a vote that motion passed unanimously moving on 386 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,120 to be 25 - 61 we're going to consider a request by Ron and Elizabeth 387 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:38,000 Langham for approval of a subdivision variance from the 2019 Denton 388 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Development Code subsection eight point three point two point C point two point 389 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,600 a it's regarding the maximum number of residential lots permitted to take 390 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,600 access from a private access easement good evening planning zoning Commission 391 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,460 Matt Bodine assistant planner I said here to present the six nine seven 392 00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:05,080 pecan Creek subdivision variance so this variance is for a piece of property 393 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:11,560 located approximately 5500 feet north of loop 288 and over a thousand feet west 394 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:20,160 of FM 2164 and city of Denton's ETJ division one the subject property itself 395 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:27,400 is approximately 11.2 acres it takes has access to a public road by means of an 396 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:33,400 existing private access easement this variance is associated with the final 397 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:41,120 plot is being considered as a separate item on today's agenda and seeking to 398 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,880 subdivide the property into three lots just another thing for consideration a 399 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,480 similar variance for property also off of this existing easement was approved 400 00:39:52,480 --> 00:40:00,000 by P and Z back in March 19th of this year so now on to the variance request 401 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,360 itself so this is a request to allow more than three residential lots to 402 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,800 access a public street by means of a private access easement or variance from 403 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:16,400 the requirement that no more than three no more than three single-family detached 404 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:24,720 lots may access a road by and easement for the first consideration staff found 405 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,640 that the granting of this variance would not be detrimental to the public safety 406 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:37,200 health or welfare of the public as well as the surrounding property owners for 407 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,440 the second consideration staff found that the peculiar pattern of development 408 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:49,000 in this area I created the hardship that the owner is in now because of how the 409 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,880 the lots have developed in this area there are nine properties that take 410 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,480 access from a private access easement so no matter what the property owner could 411 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,760 do to subdivide even just to plot one lot they would still need a variance from 412 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:11,080 our requirements in order to perform that action additionally the easement 413 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,840 they are using does cross does cross several property lines so staff finds it 414 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,520 would be laborious and difficult on their part to try and secure that land 415 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,720 that would be needed to come into compliance and in the end probably also 416 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:31,880 requiring a variance but from another requirement about five lot maximums and 417 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:38,640 this combination of things leads staff to believe that the strict letter of our 418 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,440 subdivision regulations would make it particularly difficult for this 419 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:51,600 applicant to develop this property the third consideration that this variance 420 00:41:51,600 --> 00:42:00,760 will not vary or change those guiding documents that help develop help guide 421 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:06,760 our city of Denton on the associated plot there is a right of way 422 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,720 reservation being established that would preserve the corridor for a future 423 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:19,280 primary arterial that the debt mobility plan identifies for this area the fourth 424 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,480 consider fourth and final consideration at the particular conditions creating the 425 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,880 need for this request are not the result of the owners actions so this is found 426 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,880 that this roughly general lot configuration of all these lot of 427 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:41,180 multiple lots off of this private road have been existence since at least 1987 428 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:47,200 well before this owner and as well as the Denton development code requirement 429 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:52,320 came into place along with that more than three residential lots are in 430 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,720 existence so the reason for the variance is not a result of the owner actions 431 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:04,120 itself therefore the staff is recommending approval of said subdivision 432 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:11,280 variance as it complies with the criteria but here to answer any questions 433 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,880 commissioners do you have any questions anything that you would like to discuss 434 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:28,520 regarding okay Commissioner McDuff do you have a motion yes I do I'd like to 435 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,840 make a motion to agree with the staff's recommendation for approval to 436 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,320 consider a request by Ron and Elizabeth Langham for approval of a subdivision 437 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:44,560 variance from the 2019 didn't development code okay Commissioner Garland yes and I 438 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,680 second the motion to approve the variance okay let's vote 439 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:04,720 that motion passed unanimously thank you we're gonna move to FP 25 - 30 consider 440 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:09,640 a request by landmark surveyors on behalf of Ron and Elizabeth Langham for 441 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,840 approval of a final plot for the same property for lots one through three block 442 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:21,720 a 697 the pecan Creek addition good evening again Matt burdening assistant 443 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:30,040 planner here to present a request to approve a final plot for lots two through 444 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,760 three of the 697 pecan Creek addition I'm located in the city of Denton ZTJ 445 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,880 this is the same plot associated with the subdivision variance request that 446 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:48,280 you just approved in light of that staff is recommending approval of said plot 447 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:56,240 due to PNC approving the subdivision variance but here to answer any questions 448 00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:07,760 do we have any questions discussion sorry I need to switch my screen back 449 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:14,960 Commissioner Macduff do you have a motion I've just made that motion thank 450 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:21,360 you chair Dyer I have a motion to approve this proposal this final plan 451 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:28,580 based on the approval of the variance okay and Commissioner Garland and I 452 00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:41,120 second the approval okay we will move into a vote the motion passes thank you 453 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:48,080 now on to FP 25 - 27 we're going to consider a request by McAdams on behalf 454 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:55,920 of the property owner RDO equipment for a final plat of the RDO addition good 455 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,160 evening chair members of the Commission Ashley extended associate planner this 456 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,640 is a request for a final plat for the art RDO addition at this time staff 457 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,540 recommends denial as they do not meet the criteria for approval but we have no 458 00:46:08,540 --> 00:46:12,920 objection to the requested extension to a date certain of October 22nd 2025 459 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:21,920 happy to answer any questions are there any questions or discussion no 460 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:29,960 do we have Commissioner Macduff yes I'd like to make a motion for approval for 461 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,800 a first extension for the request by McAdams on behalf of the property owner 462 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,920 RDO equipment for a final plant of the RDO edition and this would be an 463 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:50,800 extension to a date certain of October 22nd 2025 okay Commissioner Kertrussett I 464 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:57,320 second the motion for the extension to the October date okay we have we have a 465 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:05,000 motion and a second to approve the moving of the date to October 22nd which 466 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:17,760 we will vote on now and that motion passed now on to FP 25 - 28 we will 467 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,640 consider a request by man hard consulting on behalf of the property 468 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,800 owner Kana capital for a final plat of the reserve at Bush Creek I'm sorry brush 469 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,440 Creek good evening chair members of the Commission Angie Manglars development 470 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:38,560 review manager here to present FP 25 - 0 0 2 8 this is a final plat for 471 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,920 approximately 42 residential lots located at the northeast corner of 472 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,080 Fort Worth Drive and brush Creek Road the subject property is zoned PD at this 473 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,360 time they do not meet all of the requirements to recommend approval of 474 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,800 the final plot but staff has no objection to the recommended extension 475 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,000 to date certain of October 22nd I'm happy to answer any questions you all may 476 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:10,000 have do we have any questions any discussion okay 477 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:16,160 Commissioner McDuff yes elect to make a motion to approve the first extension of 478 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,560 a request for manner consulting on behalf of the property owner Kana 479 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:26,800 capital for a final plant of the reserve at brush Creek and this extension would 480 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:34,280 be to a date certain of October 22nd 2025 okay Commissioner Garland no second 481 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:43,760 the approval to move forward okay let's go ahead and vote on that that motion 482 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:51,360 passes we will now move into the public hearings portion of the evening we have 483 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,040 a few public hearings but our first one we're actually going to do a joint one 484 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:04,240 for Z 25 - 12 and Z 25 - 16 they both are regarding wreck making a 485 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:10,120 recommendation to City Council to request to rezone approximately an acre 486 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,580 of land from mixed-use neighborhood districts zoning district to suburban 487 00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:25,000 corridor around the loop 288 service road north of Randall Street and I at this 488 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,560 time I would like to open up the public hearing good evening Aaron Stanley 489 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:35,320 assistant planner so this is a request to rezone two properties approximately one 490 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,760 acre each from mixed-use neighborhood zoning district to suburban corridor 491 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,520 district these properties throughout the presentation will be referenced as a and 492 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,440 B correlating to the items on your agenda they're both located south of 493 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:55,200 loop 288 and north of Randall Street and west of East Sherman Drive and the 494 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,440 purpose of these requests are to facilitate development of commercial 495 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:04,480 uses consistent with adjacent existing zoning so to go over the current and 496 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,300 proposed zoning districts currently the sites are both zoned mixed-use 497 00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:12,560 neighborhood district and be they are requesting a suburban corridor zoning 498 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,120 district a few different highlights of comparisons between the districts the 499 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,880 mixed-use neighborhood district is more pedestrian oriented for residential 500 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,400 commercial office and retail uses while the suburban corridor district is more 501 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:33,360 auto oriented it does however still provide the development standards would 502 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,680 provide a safe pedestrian and cyclist atmosphere even in that suburban 503 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,240 corridor district some dimensional standards between the two mixed-use 504 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:47,240 neighborhood has a front setback of 10 feet suburban corridor has a front 505 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:53,160 setback of 20 feet side yard setback of 5 and rear setback of 10 the big thing to 506 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,920 point out also is in the mixed-use neighborhood district a development 507 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,640 standard for that district is that buildings must be located close to the 508 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,800 street between 10 and 15 feet from the front setback or from the front property 509 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,600 line that would bring the building up close to loop 288 and be difficult to 510 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,400 align with the adjacent properties that are zoned suburban corridor those 511 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,440 properties are proposing front drive aisles that would be difficult to align 512 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,680 with if these two properties had to have their building closer to the street it 513 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,480 could also propose pedestrian safety issues trying to encourage people to be 514 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:35,960 closer to loop 288 criteria for approval this develop both of these requests do 515 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,080 meet both the general application criteria and zoning specific criteria for 516 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,240 approval the proposed zoning's are consistent with the SC purpose statement 517 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:50,880 both are generally consistent with the comprehensive plan goals and policies as 518 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,680 well as the future land use map designation which we will get into in a 519 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,040 second and the development plans would be required for these properties to move 520 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,360 forward and they must comply with all development code criteria and the 521 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,280 zoning's are not expected to generate significant adverse environmental 522 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:13,000 infrastructure or fiscal impacts that suburban corridor purpose statement does 523 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,080 state that the district shall provide moderate to high intensity commercial 524 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,640 office and retail use along major corridors which this does it also will 525 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,400 be required to provide that safe environmental or safe environment for 526 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,720 pedestrians and cyclists as I mentioned this location being on the corner of a 527 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:36,520 freeway and primary arterial is appropriate for suburban corridor and 528 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,800 development standards or standards will require that safe pedestrian atmosphere 529 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,240 as well the comprehensive plan designates both of these sites for 530 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:49,360 community mixed use development that's intended to provide a variety of uses 531 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,480 that support residential development but where commercial uses are predominant 532 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,200 the suburban corridor district conforms to this as well as other goals mentioned 533 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,680 below growing compactly in coordination with transportation and infrastructure 534 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:08,160 being that this is along a major freeway it is it does make sense to have this 535 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:14,920 district and would meet this goal and also would create new workplaces that 536 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,800 are close to residential properties to the south is a developing multifamily 537 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:25,320 site and to the west is an existing multifamily site and that would support 538 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:34,760 those residential uses notifications were conducted for both projects 255 539 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:41,600 mailed notices were sent out for the first item 5a and we did not receive any 540 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,120 responses in favor or opposition the applicants did hold a virtual meeting 541 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:51,540 for this project on month this past Monday no applicant no residents attended 542 00:53:51,540 --> 00:53:58,520 the meeting 5b also was required to send out their notices and we did not receive 543 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,960 any responses in favor or opposition to my knowledge a meeting was not held for 544 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,400 this by the applicant that is a suggestion and in the development code 545 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:12,240 not a requirement for rezonings but that stuff is recommending approval of this 546 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:17,520 zoning change for both of the requests 5a and 5b and I'll be happy to answer 547 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:23,700 any questions before the public makes their comments commissioners do you have 548 00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:32,720 any questions or discussion okay we will go ahead so far it looks like we have 549 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:43,800 one person that would like to speak on this I'm clay Christie you will have four 550 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,520 minutes to talk good evening Commission click Christie claim we're engineering 551 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,360 3231 Harwood Drive in Bedford we're actually the applicant here so I think 552 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,560 staff did a good job present presenting what they had for us for we are for 553 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,720 representing 5b here and we're just here for the rezoning and mainly if there's 554 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:07,080 any questions we're here to answer and as the applicant you actually get ten 555 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,360 minutes so if there's anything it's okay I tried to tell her whenever I handed it 556 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,120 to her that I was the applicant and they had it on here and I did not see it it's 557 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,760 my first time in this chair so thank you for your patience no no problem no no 558 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,120 questions at all I mean staff presented everything that we have I don't know 559 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,800 that I have a whole lot else to add we're definitely here for any questions 560 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:31,080 okay commissioners do you have any questions for the applicant okay I know 561 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,720 we have no other cards for this but is there anybody here in the public that 562 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:44,800 would like to address this agenda item okay for this agenda item we'll close 563 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:52,960 the public comments on that close the public hearing on that and any questions 564 00:55:52,960 --> 00:56:11,480 or anything from commissioners okay commissioner catcher said my motion to 565 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:18,280 approve the Sony change as requested yeah and I think you have to do both of 566 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,600 them oh both of them we're gonna do one at a time okay so this will just be for 567 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:34,440 z25 0 0 1 2 yes I approve vote to approve okay motion do we have a second 568 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:45,440 commissioner Macduff yes I'll present a second to that motion to approve okay 569 00:56:45,440 --> 00:57:01,560 we'll go ahead and vote on that and we have a four to zero motion passed 570 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:11,920 approval now for item number z25 - 16 do we have a motion for that recommendation 571 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:33,400 to City Council commissioner catcher said a motion to adopt these z25 0 0 16 be 572 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:44,760 as requested okay and Commissioner Garland I'll second the motion okay we'll 573 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:57,600 go ahead and vote on that and that one also passes unanimously okay moving on to 574 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:06,920 z25 - 0 0 11 we will now open the public hearing to consider making a 575 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,120 recommendation to City Council regarding a city initiated zoning change from 576 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,760 public facilities district to a mixed use downtown district on approximately one 577 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,960 point oh eight acres and from a mixed-use neighborhood to a mixed-use 578 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:28,560 downtown on approximately 42.62 acres good evening chair and members of the 579 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,720 Commission Sean Jacobson associate planner here to present z25 11 expanding 580 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:41,000 opportunities in southern downtown so I'm going to move forward this is a 581 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,720 request for a rezoning of approximately 43.7 acres from the current public 582 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,120 facilities and mixed-use neighborhood zoning to a mixed-use downtown district 583 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,840 zoning I'll start by giving y'all a little bit of history and background on 584 00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:00,680 this area which I'll be referring to as southern downtown 2002 this area was 585 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,400 zoned downtown commercial general DCG same zoning is around the square we 586 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,800 essentially had one zoning for the majority of the core of downtown in 2010 587 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,800 we passed the downtown implementation plan and that boundary that drew a 588 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,920 boundary around kind of a more central core part of downtown around the square 589 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,320 which excluded the southern downtown that was in part because much of the 590 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,760 southern downtown at the time was covered by a floodplain so additional 591 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,120 development in that area was not anticipated because the floodplain 592 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:37,000 essentially presented prevented any new development or redevelopment based on 593 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:43,640 that D tip border that was drawn in 2019 when we had the citywide zoning 594 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,480 transition to a whole new set of zoning districts that southern downtown area 595 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,280 did not transition to the new mixed-use downtown zoning so the area around the 596 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,960 square within that kind of core boundary that went to mixed use downtown but in 597 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:05,480 downtown instead transition to mixed-use neighborhood the change that occurred 598 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,720 after that in 2024 was that the city did a project to remove the southern 599 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:16,880 downtown from the floodplain that took away the barrier hat that had existed to 600 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,000 those properties redeveloping developing with new uses and created an 601 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,320 opportunity at that point we got to the design downtown Denton plan process in 602 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:33,440 2024 this process identified we have a great opportunity here this southern 603 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,280 downtown area is now out of the floodplain and it has the opportunity to 604 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,040 develop more in line with the rest of downtown we got community responses from 605 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,240 our engagement efforts that indicated desire for more businesses and more 606 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,680 focus on that area south of the square there was an opportunity with the flood 607 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,480 plan removal and a need for more going down in that area so we respond to that 608 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,900 in the design downtown Denton plan which was approved by City Council with two 609 01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:03,400 key recommendations one of those 3a was that we moved towards a future southern 610 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,260 downtown with new housing shops restaurants and potentially a city park 611 01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:14,360 in the area the other recommendation 3d was that in order to implement this 612 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:21,260 staff analyze whether we should rezone that area that southern downtown to MD 613 01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:27,800 and essentially restore the downtown zoning that it had had up until 2019 so 614 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,800 staff went ahead and analyzed the area came back with the recommendation that 615 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:37,440 it did in fact make sense to rezone this area to MD it would expand development 616 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,280 opportunity and flexibility for property owners respond to that community desire 617 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,960 to see more attention more life more activity in that area and it would be 618 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,480 that first step to implement the design downtown didn't envision future southern 619 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:55,680 downtown however we do want to go into more detail about that analysis to 620 01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,440 clarify why this makes sense for this area so first off what does it mean to 621 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:05,000 transition to MD from MN so mixed use downtown biggest thing is it allows 622 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,960 property owners to use more of their lots so within MD you have a somewhat 623 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:16,640 lower requirement for landscape a higher building coverage permitted for 624 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,200 commercial uses you're not required to provide a minimum parking so there's 625 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,280 more freedom for an owner decide how much parking they need for their use 626 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,480 similarly for smaller residential so townhomes and multifamily under 10 units 627 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,200 again they're not held to a mandatory parking requirement there's more 628 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,560 flexibility that allows you to develop on a smaller lot more easily so it's 629 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,000 providing more flexibility does also allow more height on those lots 630 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,440 essentially it's allowing a greater level of density and more flexibility for 631 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:51,800 the property owners to develop in a more downtown way just for example right now 632 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,600 under MN you would have to provide a buffer between a multifamily use and a 633 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,480 commercial use which in a downtown setting really doesn't make any sense 634 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,320 why would you be putting a hole you know a fence and some landscaping between 635 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,520 those things to downtown area with the MD zoning that requirement goes away in 636 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,400 this area is free develop more like the lots north of it it's always important 637 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,520 to look at our comprehensive plan and what that's saying about the area the 638 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,560 future land use map for this area indicates that its future land use is 639 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:24,920 downtown Denton it's actually the most appropriate zoning for this area is MD 640 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,680 mixed use downtown likely the only reason that it hasn't been that all along 641 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,320 was because of that floodplain which is now no longer in the way it does also 642 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,920 align with some of the other goals or help us to move towards some of the 643 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,440 other goals in our comprehensive plan the comprehensive plan encourages 644 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:47,760 compact development reinvestment in our key corridors and diversifying the uses 645 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,120 downtown so different types of commercial you notice we have a number 646 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,080 of corridors going through this area Elm Street Locust Street this is helping us 647 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,800 enable property owners to invest more use their properties to a greater extent 648 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,960 along those key corridors this is an area where we have strong infrastructure 649 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,120 already much of it recently upgraded again this is where we want to see that 650 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,260 denser development occurring where we already have the infrastructure in place 651 01:04:11,260 --> 01:04:15,760 to support it very much in line with our comprehensive plans goals similarly with 652 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,240 our sound growth principles we want to encourage reinvestment and infill in a 653 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,240 historically underutilized area again this is enabling making it easier for 654 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,240 property owners to make some of those investments and get a better return on 655 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,800 it it's also consistent with our housing goals in the Denton 2040 plan and in the 656 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,560 design downtown Denton plan we want to encourage more people to live downtown 657 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,720 so that they can support businesses there again because this does not 658 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,720 require parking for multifamily up to 10 units because it has some of those 659 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:51,040 reduced standards for landscaping and crucially multifamily is not required to 660 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,480 provide an open space on each individual a lot this makes it much easier 661 01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:00,360 potentially to develop townhomes smaller multifamily in this area versus what it 662 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,800 is now under MN so again more opportunities to create diverse housing 663 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:10,000 opportunities in our downtown we also want to consider though are there adverse 664 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,680 impacts and have we minimized those our height transition buffer is a key part 665 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:19,440 of the DDC that's remains in place and that limits how close you can build a 666 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:24,400 very tall building next to a residential home in a residentially zoned area sets 667 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,640 a limit of you have to be 50 feet away if you're going to build any higher than 668 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:33,400 the adjacent residential zoning district so again that protection for single 669 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,200 family uses use buffers are still in place between any commercial or 670 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,400 multifamily building and a single-family home so again that protection is 671 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:47,240 required that spacing for single-family homes we also need to think about the 672 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:52,400 impact on existing uses and I really want emphasize this our DDC protections 673 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:59,540 mean that no currently existing legal use business or otherwise would have to 674 01:05:59,540 --> 01:06:04,360 stop operating because of this everyone can continue to operate just as they 675 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,600 have before whether use was non-conforming before it's made 676 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,520 non-conforming by this regardless everything that is currently legally 677 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,680 existing can continue to exist and operate as it did we also want to 678 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,040 specifically address single-family residential it is true that within the MD 679 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,480 zoning district single-family residential is not normally a permitted 680 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,000 use however we recognize that we have quite a bit of existing single-family in 681 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,640 this area and we don't want to have an impact on those so this ordinance has 682 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,600 been specifically written to protect single-family housing so that any 683 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,880 single-family residential that would be rezoned to continue just as it has and 684 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:45,180 not only that if you wanted to say tear it down and build a new house there you 685 01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:49,360 could do that nothing would change you can expand it invest in it for 686 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:55,440 single-family residential there would be no change to this ordinance it's always 687 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,120 important that we do our public outreach so we sent out our standard mailings as 688 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,520 well as posting signs we did receive four responses in opposition and ten in 689 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:10,680 favor we also as I mentioned hosted two neighborhood meetings in May 2025 the 690 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,140 attendees at both of those meetings expressed unanimous support for the 691 01:07:14,140 --> 01:07:18,440 rezoning and we did also present this to planning and zoning Commission in a work 692 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,200 session planning zone Commission indicated support for the rezoning at 693 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:27,560 that time so with that staff does recommend approval of the rezoning with 694 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,800 the condition presented in your backup that is my presentation happy to stand 695 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,360 for any questions 696 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:39,520 commissioners does anybody have any questions 697 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:46,080 Commissioner McDuff mr. Jacobson I just want to make sure that what I'm hearing 698 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,480 you say and I've asked this question that it would not affect the current 699 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:57,400 single-family residential dwellings and it would not affect the current building 700 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:04,080 employment opportunities that are currently available in this area yes so 701 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,680 for single-family residential absolutely nothing changes for any existing 702 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:14,280 business they can continue to operate as they have if a user business were to be 703 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,600 made non-conforming they can nonetheless continue to operate they can sell that 704 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,720 business to another business that business can continue to operate it the 705 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,720 only limitation would be on potentially the ability to expand so they would not 706 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:32,960 have to cease operation they would not I have a couple questions first off I want 707 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,560 to state that there was an e-comment that was in favor of this as well that 708 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:43,040 the city received so we want to note that first question is the four in 709 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:48,400 opposition do you know what they're did they state what they were opposing with 710 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:53,960 why they were in opposition to this in some cases there was believe some 711 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,800 concern about the effect on existing businesses in the area one of those four 712 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,240 I have had a conversation with the applicant by the time we were done he'd 713 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,760 essentially determined in fact we were going to make it more possible for to do 714 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,960 what he wanted to do but he hadn't necessarily rescinded that opposition at 715 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,840 the time okay and then my other question and this is just more personal but a 716 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:23,720 little history behind this you said this wasn't a flood flood zone how did that 717 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:29,120 get removed like was there a rerouting of a body of water is that now this has 718 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,980 the flood zone designation been taken off these properties what's the what's the 719 01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:39,680 history behind this great question yes the city in fact executed a multi 720 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,880 million dollar peck for project to take what was the floodplain and put very 721 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,760 large pipes under the ground there to completely remove that floodplain from 722 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,360 the area so yeah that was that was a very significant change okay thank you 723 01:09:52,360 --> 01:10:02,800 any other questions yes it completed that stage of it is there will be 724 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:10,000 another one to remove even more of downtown from the floodplain thank you 725 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:16,920 okay we need to close the public hearing oh we can oh sorry we have not even had 726 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:23,920 the public thank you I'm so sorry okay um we have a few people that would like 727 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:37,040 to speak Hugo Cruz I think you filled out two of these yes man so mr. Cruz you 728 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:42,280 you only get to speak for one and you'll get four minutes okay that's fine okay 729 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:47,520 thank you okay well the reason we are here is because I mean we've been 730 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:52,520 having our business for more than 30 years serving to Denton community 731 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:57,880 people and it's a ways until you know service then and then Tony the most 732 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:03,480 beautiful place actually we actually we'd be leaving I mean it's amazing I 733 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:08,560 would change them from for no other place but I mean the situation right now 734 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:15,160 is you know all the things I mean they trying to do constructions of all the 735 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,640 the houses around apartments and everything I mean that's fine but the 736 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:25,360 only problem about is why they have to actually destroy some little business 737 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,560 we've been actually working for more than 30 years and also they need to 738 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:38,560 think about this our retirement plans on my on my case my wife is already 739 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,440 retirement I will be retirement pretty soon so who's gonna pay my retirement 740 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:46,280 plan they're gonna do it building all those things around and they're gonna 741 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,920 provide me all that stuff like that and I've always been thinking I mean there's 742 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,080 nothing wrong with that but I mean if they're gonna start you know taking 743 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,960 people away just because they want to make business around here in Denton I 744 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,920 mean that's fine if they agree that's fine but they're gonna be destroying 745 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,720 families taking their business away legacy for their own kids and everything 746 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:13,280 I mean then to get a lot of you know Lance around here and by the way you 747 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,520 know on eagle they build those apartments and everything and I don't 748 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,840 want to tell you this but you know how many actually being happy because it's 749 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:25,280 just close to the street and this what they actually start doing it but all 750 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:31,440 what I want to know is how is that gonna affect my business that's my question on 751 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:37,840 five to five side M Street and sir what is your business what what business do 752 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:49,260 you run do you know I don't sell LHC okay okay we will have this we will have 753 01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:52,360 Mr. Jacobson come back up and he will address that shape thank you very much 754 01:12:52,360 --> 01:13:03,200 thank you guys happy to address that so right now under the current zoning auto 755 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:10,680 sales is not a permitted use however it is protected as non-conforming uses the 756 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:17,300 terminology we used to use was grandfathered in so right now it is not 757 01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:20,700 permitted but it can continue operating just it has if this zoning change goes 758 01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:25,880 through nothing changes exactly the same situation not technically permitted but 759 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,640 protected under non-conforming continue to operate can be sold to someone else 760 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:35,320 they can operate this has no impact so mr. Cruz could sell his business he 761 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,520 could pass it down to his children to continue to run it if he wanted to 762 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:51,320 absolutely okay did you want to say anything else mr. Cruz you need to come up here to the mics please 763 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:57,960 state your name and your address so my father has two so five eleven locusts and 764 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,520 six eleven south locusts or six eleven locusts and your name Jennifer Cruz 765 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:08,320 sorry so I am the daughter but one of the things I wanted to express is I have 766 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,720 been born and raised in Denton all my life like all my life so I feel like I 767 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,640 submitted one of the requests I think it was to him I feel like a score didn't 768 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,040 nice I just don't want to feel like we've been run out one of the things I 769 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,560 fell in love with didn't is the small town feel and that's kind of going away 770 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:30,320 it's being overcrowded over-trafficated I even tell my sister all the time it 771 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,120 feels like it's little Dallas now you know so those are the things that I'm 772 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,880 just concerned about aside from losing the business like my dad said that's his 773 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,260 retirement plan that's something he is gonna pass over to us so I just want to 774 01:14:42,260 --> 01:14:47,120 make sure that one the original business that actually helped grow Denton and our 775 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,280 family oriented don't get affected but also we don't get overcrowding because 776 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,800 first like a while they had construction there on the street that affected our 777 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,240 business we've literally lost a lot of business because they couldn't even 778 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,480 enter our way I want to make sure that's not something that's gonna happen with 779 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,360 both of our locations mr. Jacobson would you like to address potential future 780 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:20,120 construction I know that's hard like I can make an effort certainly we have no 781 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,960 intention with this this is not designed for any particular project this is 782 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,800 designed simply to create opportunities for all property owners in the area if 783 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:37,600 they wish to redevelop develop adaptive labor use that may involve construction 784 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,840 at some point I will note that on Elm and Locust both of those projects have 785 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:46,640 recently been redone by textile and so we don't anticipate significant future 786 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,760 construction on either of those roadways but beyond that I really can't speak to 787 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,880 future construction one way or the other okay do either of you have any other 788 01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:04,600 questions for mr. Jacobson okay I also have one from Kristen Bigley 789 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:18,160 please state your name and address good evening I'm Kristen Kendrick Bigley 790 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:26,000 address is 4004 Vineyard Way I am the director at the UNT collab on 207 North 791 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,000 Elm Street I've been there five years and been very involved in the downtown 792 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,080 community since taking that role the last two years have actually served as 793 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,400 president of the Denton Main Street Association and that's really why I'm 794 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:42,160 speaking is on behalf of that organization and our participation in the 795 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:47,280 whole design downtown didn't plan throughout last year so we really were 796 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:53,280 strong participants our board our members were in you know engaging with 797 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:59,080 any of those sessions that the design downtown didn't plan had with the public 798 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:05,160 we gave feedback we were involved in the presentation to City Council to also 799 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:10,240 approve the design downtown didn't plan we are in support of this redevelopment 800 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:16,520 for property owners for business owners to help bring more to downtown that will 801 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:22,120 help build and sustain that for the long term so that South corridor area is a 802 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:27,080 huge area development that is underutilized right now and to allow the 803 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,680 zoning to change in a way that will allow those properties to be developed 804 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,760 to bring in more business and residential kind of coexisting 805 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,880 seamlessly together where you have a coffee shop downstairs you know you've 806 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,560 got residential above you get that density they're close to all three 807 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:54,400 universities it becomes a very a very what's the word just vibrant community 808 01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:00,000 and space for people to exist if we you know can look further to developing some 809 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,480 green space in that area so we have Quaker town in the north and then we 810 01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:09,760 have a South Denton Park you can imagine dogs being walked you have areas for 811 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:16,280 young families to go out and play you can navigate the downtown area bicycle 812 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:22,160 walking other ways and it just becomes a kind of community within a community 813 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,400 that really provides all that you need so where you don't have to get in your 814 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,040 car and drive out to this urban areas very often and that's what we're really 815 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:36,000 trying to do here is develop a vibrant downtown where everyone can live and 816 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,440 work and play and have an entertainment district and do all of these great 817 01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:46,200 things together so we are in support of the rezone of the South downtown area to 818 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:55,160 allow for this mixed-use development thank you um those are all the 819 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:59,360 individuals that have filled out a card but is there anybody in the audience if 820 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,560 you would like to come up just please make sure to state your name and your 821 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:08,040 address and then I think they still want you to get a card and fill it out for 822 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,920 the record please my name is Martha Wallard I hope y'all can hear me I can't 823 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:18,960 hear anything in here but I own a property on 301 South Locust I was not 824 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:25,800 informed about this and I'd like first of all to know who is the developer who 825 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:32,100 is planning all of this is this a city idea or is this a private individual who 826 01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:37,600 wants to take over the downtown area and put high-rises and whatever else 827 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:43,400 congestion we can have down there is this a way to raise taxes for the city 828 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:49,800 what is what's the real decision behind this number two if you are going to 829 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:56,720 approve this I would like personally to have a guarantee for all all of the 830 01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:02,680 businesses that have been working and residents like this gentleman who there 831 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:08,000 is a nice little group of houses in this neighborhood that have most of them are 832 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:14,280 being bulldozed down for not one but many apartments way too many apartments 833 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:21,080 I've been in Denton since 1956 and the town has changed dramatically for the 834 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:27,440 worst and I'm sorry to say that and actually I'm very sorry but I want 835 01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:33,980 something in writing I didn't get any notification on this that if anybody who 836 01:20:33,980 --> 01:20:39,980 has a business in this neighborhood or has a residence in this before you come 837 01:20:39,980 --> 01:20:44,760 in and bulldoze down our little neighborhood that these people get to 838 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:51,840 stay and stay most of these people have had businesses there for 20 25 years and 839 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:58,000 it is totally unfair to have them uprooted for a Starbucks or another 840 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:04,400 tattoo shop or what are their other little trendy item that you want to have 841 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:11,360 put in to welcome a student and it's a real shame I mean when Davis Bakery can't 842 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:17,720 even it's been sitting idle for months for years because nobody can afford to 843 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:23,360 rent it what makes us think that these big high rises are going to make a 844 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:29,320 difference so I hope you'll consider this 75 year old person who's been in 845 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:36,920 debt in a long time and that wants to preserve what little history we have 846 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:44,280 mr. Keith I hope you've heard this Hillary Erica and the rest of you thank 847 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:51,120 you very much thank you are that before I send it back to mr. Jacobson for her 848 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:58,480 questions is there any other person that would like go ahead 849 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:15,320 my name is Barbara Shaw I live at 309 Stroud Street and I have been in Denton 850 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:22,920 since I started nursing school back in 73 it's same house my big concern with 851 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:27,280 all of this is I know that we need to expand I won't be here probably who 852 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:34,400 knows for how many years let God decide but what's happening to our area on 853 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:41,800 Stroud sycamore the construction that is going on right now on Hickory Street and 854 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:47,600 the credit union and with the gas companies coming through and changing 855 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:55,120 everything we have had major traffic that is just we're being annihilated with 856 01:22:55,120 --> 01:23:00,400 it it's unbelievable the traffic that comes through the road is in such 857 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:09,040 disrepair right now and nobody when you try to contact somebody like we had 858 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:17,240 Atmos come in and they went ahead and re did the pipes they left our place in a 859 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:23,080 total mess I had a two-foot drop-off that people were tripping over that I 860 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:28,560 have to contact people all the time to say you need to fix this I think that 861 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:34,080 you guys should take you know a ride down our street on Pierce prayer not 862 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:39,680 Pierce because that's nice and smooth now so is prairie a little bit but hit 863 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:47,200 Stroud and sycamore and see what all of this is done and my concern is even like 864 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:52,280 when we had the Jazz Fest here the Blues Fest we had parking on our street what's 865 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:58,820 going to happen when everything really starts to come into play my main 866 01:23:58,820 --> 01:24:05,360 concern is that any time something is done especially like this 20-foot area 867 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:10,480 that's on Hickory to sycamore street where they're throwing up these 868 01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:21,560 apartments that there's no place to go to utilize a fairway of one area to just 869 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:26,080 like Hickory Street you can't have all these construction cars going down there 870 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:30,440 because of the businesses and how it takes so long to go through so you're 871 01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:36,360 using our areas to cut through and these people are not friendly they're coming 872 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:42,640 from Fort Worth these companies who are redoing they don't care they go down you 873 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:49,440 know 60 miles an hour down our street we've had animals killed we've you know 874 01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:55,900 thank God we don't have children anymore on the area but it's just it's a menace 875 01:24:55,900 --> 01:25:03,840 and it shouldn't be so I don't know we talked about this and we said we'd get 876 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:08,880 back with it and to see about how this is all going to re-effect you know or 877 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:16,400 affect our area as far as parking goes and is it slowly we see this area being 878 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:24,080 taken over slowly I'm with her I wanted him writing that you know that we can 879 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:30,640 stay as it is but let's get the traffic taken care of let's get the streets I 880 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:35,680 can tell you if we were in Montecito or Southridge this wouldn't have happened 881 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:42,520 this would not have happened but of course we're not building high-rises over 882 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:50,680 there but still you're gonna leave that area clean neat the minute you do it so 883 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:57,040 why not us okay thank you for your comment is there anybody else from the 884 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:02,560 public that would like to say something mr. Jacobson would you like to address 885 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:08,200 the items that both individuals brought up please absolutely and I tried to 886 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,840 write them down in so in case you know we'll make sure to hit them I appreciate 887 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:18,000 you can let me know if there's any that I missed first off on the 301 South 888 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:24,120 Locust property that is actually currently zoned MD so nothing will change 889 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:29,280 for that property standing exactly the same in regard to single-family existing 890 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,400 single-family uses and putting that in writing I actually completely and 891 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,440 totally agree which is why I put it in writing in this ordinance that 892 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:42,080 absolutely nothing will change for any single-family home in this area there 893 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:48,060 they'll be able to continue just as they have they can sell it expand it you 894 01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:53,340 wanted to so that guarantee is in the ordinance yes I wrote it myself if it 895 01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:56,160 burned to the ground you want to build it right back up you could do that too 896 01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:01,120 and to change it that would be another bringing it forth to planning and zoning 897 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:07,520 yes and then City Council the whole the process yes that is correct that is correct and 898 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,600 similarly for any businesses operating that is part of our nonconformity 899 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:17,640 protections that they can continue to operate really the only limitation is 900 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:22,400 that there may be limitation on the ability to expand it but continue to 901 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:27,680 operate be sold and operated by someone else into the future I can't necessarily 902 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:35,320 speak to at miss or street repair but certainly I would hope that would be 903 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:41,880 handled better in the future yes so one individual said she was not notified 904 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:47,840 okay so can you kind of explain the notification and maybe if she was missed 905 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:52,360 how that could have happened or absolutely so we our goal was to send 906 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,620 out a notification to every property owner within the boundary as well as 907 01:27:56,620 --> 01:28:03,340 within 200 feet we rely on the appraisal districts certified addresses and we do 908 01:28:03,340 --> 01:28:07,680 our best to send that as well as postcards to utility customers out to 909 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:12,600 500 feet occasionally letters will come back because the post office has said 910 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,720 they for some reason the address didn't work for them or occasionally what the 911 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,800 appraisal district gives us doesn't get to where we want to we do make every 912 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,640 effort but it is possible that that can happen and I did just remember the other 913 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:29,240 thing I wanted to address because I remember hearing this there is no private 914 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,120 developer planning any specific project here and in fact the city doesn't 915 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:37,640 necessarily have any exact project either what we're wanting to do is 916 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:43,720 simply make it easier for each property owner if they chose to develop to give 917 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,000 them more freedom to do that however they see fit long term of course the 918 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,960 vision is to see in the southern downtown area more things for people to 919 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,360 enjoy that live there and the opportunity for more folks to enjoy it 920 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,720 and live there but there is no project that this is anticipated so no 921 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,940 developer this is just a recommendation by city staff before the boards of the 922 01:29:03,940 --> 01:29:08,480 planning and zoning and then it will go into the City Council after this yes ma'am 923 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:16,720 okay taxes somebody it was asked would this raise their property taxes that is 924 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:21,480 in the hands of the appraisal district it is certainly possible that if the 925 01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:26,640 area becomes more desirable property values can increase but we have no 926 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:32,320 control okay ladies did I get did mr. Jacobson answer all of those questions 927 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,320 for you 928 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:51,440 yes ma'am yes ma'am and oh no I'm a city planner I I work I work 929 01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:59,600 for the city I live just ten minutes from here there's no there's no project 930 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,440 there's no developer this is simply to allow property owners to have more 931 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:06,640 freedom if they wanted to do something different with their property they had 932 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:11,400 the freedom to do that if not they don't have to and as far as being right I want 933 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,260 to make sure I say that again I wrote the ordinance and what I wrote in there 934 01:30:15,260 --> 01:30:19,720 was that for single-family homes nothing changes they can stay exactly as they 935 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,720 are you can add on to it you can knock it down and build it up again you can 936 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:43,920 you can do everything you can do now after this so mr. Jake no it's okay we 937 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,040 would like to put if you're okay with it if maybe you can have some of these 938 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:52,440 conversations out outside in the hallway so we can move on with the agenda did 939 01:30:52,440 --> 01:31:00,440 you want to add anything okay yes commissioners did you have anything yes 940 01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:07,560 I was just going to say that we also talked about high-rise proliferation so 941 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,920 perhaps we can address that in what does the ordinance allow for high rises to be 942 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:17,140 built in this area so that's actually already permitted in the MN zoning and 943 01:31:17,140 --> 01:31:22,760 as I mentioned what we also already have is protections limiting how close any 944 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,560 high-rise building can be built to a single-family home so currently in the 945 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,360 current zoning high rises are already allowed and but that what this does is 946 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,200 it changes some of like the proximity of one building close to another building 947 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:45,080 and some little nuances like that okay any any other questions okay so this 948 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:56,080 closes the public hearing for this item agenda agenda item thank you okay any 949 01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:01,400 last-minute questions or discussion by commissioners yes commissioners one other 950 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:05,960 comment I think that's important to me because that's lived in this 951 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:12,240 neighborhood for quite some time was experience the issues with floodplain 952 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:17,600 and sold my house to the city it's not a minute not a week goes by I don't miss 953 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:22,400 that neighborhood it's a critical neighborhood south of downtown we want 954 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:29,480 to continue to preserve it but I think we need to say out loud the other thing 955 01:32:29,480 --> 01:32:37,880 that mr. Jacobson talked about was the need for town homes and smaller family 956 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,240 multifamily developments that we don't have in debt and close to the downtown 957 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:47,720 area so I just want to make that point the other thing the point I'd like to 958 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:53,720 make from my seat is that I will tell you I'm also horrified by how the area 959 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:58,720 around south of downtown looks and the empty businesses and the empty store 960 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:04,760 fronts so for me when I saw this and heard this presentation from Sean 961 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:09,240 Jacobson we've been working on it quite some time I believe I was personally 962 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:14,480 glad to see this and personally glad to see that there are some things in 963 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:19,360 writing and I will tell you that this young man Sean Jacobson is a very 964 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:25,480 personable and very good and very willing to receive comments and act on 965 01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:32,160 them and if you all don't know that please know that thank you chair and I 966 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:37,980 would agree with all of that it would be nice to see some revitalization and the 967 01:33:37,980 --> 01:33:43,160 growth for by bringing in new businesses and more residents that should hopefully 968 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:52,680 help the current businesses grow as well so that will be nice to see okay if 969 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,200 there are no other questions or discussion by commissioners um do we 970 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,680 have a motion 971 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:20,560 Commissioner Ketchers it a motion to adopt the z25 11 to make a 972 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:25,920 recommendation to the City Council to change the zoning yes okay do we and do 973 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,400 we have a second 974 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:40,280 Commissioner Macduff yes I second the motion for approval to make the 975 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:46,600 recommendation to the City Council okay let's take a vote 976 01:34:50,560 --> 01:35:11,280 okay the motion passes three to one okay we're gonna move on to the next 977 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:18,680 item CA 25 - - the we're gonna hold a public hearing to consider making a 978 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:23,320 recommendation to City Council regarding a comprehensive plan amendment on 979 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:27,360 approximately thirty four and a half acres from rural acres future land use 980 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:34,520 designation to light industrial future land use designation I would like to open 981 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:41,160 up the public hearing at this time for this item good evening Aaron Stanley 982 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:50,120 assistant planner this is CA 25 - 0 0 0 2 US 380 corridor flume amendment this is 983 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:58,000 a request to change the future land use designation on two separate areas located 984 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:04,160 on the far northeast side of town along US 380 we'll discuss these in two 985 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:09,880 separate areas area one and two area one is circled in yellow on your screen this 986 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:15,680 is approximately thirty four point five acres and is currently has a future land 987 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,880 use designation of rural areas and a proposed future land use designation of 988 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:24,680 light industrial area two is circled in orange on the screen and is 989 01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:29,080 approximately twenty two point five acres this is currently has a future 990 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,920 land use designation of low residential and a proposed future land use 991 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:39,600 designation of community mixed use some existing conditions for the area there's 992 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,800 primarily single-family homes here today undeveloped property some agricultural 993 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:49,240 property and driveways into the ETJ with varying commercial and industrial uses 994 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:55,560 the purpose there's also this is on a six lane divided textile roadway US 380 995 01:36:55,560 --> 01:37:02,760 with a future freeway conversion planned the purpose of this request is that staff 996 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,880 has received several development inquiries in the area that do not match 997 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,680 the current zoning nor the future land use designations in the area which 998 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,520 prompted us to take our take a closer look it is also identified in the 999 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:20,240 comprehensive plan as a gateway area for staff to examine closer we pursued it an 1000 01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,200 approximately nine month corridor study of this area which revealed the current 1001 01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:29,880 designation does is not appropriate for this area hence this request to go 1002 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:36,360 through each of the the areas and proposed designation light industrial is 1003 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:42,720 proposed for area one so you can see in the images primarily light industrial 1004 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,680 future land use designation is intended for things like light manufacturing 1005 01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:51,120 assembling warehouses distribution but also those supporting uses such as 1006 01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:55,680 office retail and restaurants it does not have to be as industrial can be 1007 01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:00,960 those office and retail type uses this also should be in areas that have 1008 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,800 adequate infrastructure and transportation network the the proposed 1009 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,840 textile changes for the area as well as the existing conditions would support 1010 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:14,720 these types uses more than the existing single-family and what would be allowed 1011 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:20,120 today therefore as I said it's consistent with the development pattern 1012 01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:25,640 in the area we do already see some of these uses in the ETJ changing this area 1013 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,320 to light industrial would just allow these uses to be up closer to the roadway 1014 01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:34,320 rather than pushed back in the ETJ and it considers the US 380 roadway design 1015 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:40,040 improvement today and in the future throughout the city and that top right 1016 01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:44,800 map is where you can see our current land use map light blue is light 1017 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:49,120 industrial and we see it already along US 380 just further to the west of this 1018 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:54,000 subject site so it would naturally continue that designation we also see it 1019 01:38:54,000 --> 01:39:01,880 northwest side of town where US 380 and I 35 meet generally aligned zoning 1020 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:06,360 districts with this future land use designation would be light industrial 1021 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:11,600 general office and suburban corridor this is not an exclusive list but that 1022 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,840 these are what we typically see throughout the city aligned with this 1023 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:22,840 future land use designation as for area 2 staff is recommending changing this 1024 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:28,560 from low residential to community mixed use in the community mixed use future 1025 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:33,520 land use designation this is intended to be primarily commercial but where 1026 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:38,480 residential service and other uses are are complementary it should complement 1027 01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:43,120 and embrace existing uses so those existing residential uses in the area 1028 01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:48,720 and create a sense of place for the local community the reason staff is 1029 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,720 recommending community mixed use in this area and not light industrial as well 1030 01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:57,720 it's because there is an existing neighborhood that was built in the early 1031 01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:03,040 2000s just south of this where you see a lot of the yellow today this community 1032 01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,220 mixed use designation would provide neighborhood services that are an 1033 01:40:06,220 --> 01:40:12,480 appropriate scale for US 380 also buffer industrial and you industrial uses and 1034 01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:16,640 traffic from those existing homes and provide a higher design standard near 1035 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:23,520 this existing residential area in the upper right hand corner this map shows 1036 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:28,040 again where you see this designation today it is throughout the city 1037 01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:32,520 indicated with light pink and it's clustered around primary arterial roadways 1038 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:38,320 and text out roadways similar to this one generally aligned zoning districts 1039 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:45,160 would include suburban corridor and mixed use regional zoning districts this 1040 01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:50,660 request is does achieve a couple goal goals of the comprehensive plan the 1041 01:40:50,660 --> 01:40:55,840 first one is to grow compactly so this this change would allow the corridor to 1042 01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:01,300 develop compactly closer to the roadway rather than back further in the ETJ 1043 01:41:01,300 --> 01:41:05,160 where we already see some of these uses that would allow that more compact dense 1044 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:09,760 growth along the corridor rather than spreading out into the ETJ it would also 1045 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:14,680 be compact with the adjacent development to the west and east of this corridor 1046 01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:21,160 where we already see similar development action item 2 also stresses that staff 1047 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:26,880 and every application should try to match the future land use map since we have 1048 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,000 been receiving these requests that are not consistent with the future land use 1049 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:34,240 map this is difficult today so revising this map would allow future developments 1050 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:41,920 to be in in coordination with the future land use designations as with all 1051 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:47,620 requests we do see how this aligns with the criteria for approval this is not in 1052 01:41:47,620 --> 01:41:51,000 conflict with any other goals or policies of the comprehensive plan and 1053 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,560 proposed and the proposed amendment is consistent with existing 1054 01:41:55,560 --> 01:42:00,080 non-residential pattern of development in the area and would encourage 1055 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,920 development that's compatible with what's existing today and with the future plans 1056 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:10,720 of tech stop this also considers the existing and proposed infrastructure as 1057 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:15,440 with all our projects and as we can encourage applicants to we did notice 1058 01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:19,960 all of the owners and residents within the boundary and also within 500 feet 1059 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:26,560 owners within 200 feet and property residents 200 feet and owners within 500 1060 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:32,960 feet and we posted two signs out in the area as well we did receive two 1061 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,960 responses one in opposition and one in favor of the request and we held two 1062 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,860 in-person meetings and two virtual meetings at both of those meetings in 1063 01:42:41,860 --> 01:42:46,240 person of those who attended everyone was in favor of their quest and agreed 1064 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:53,120 with staff that this was a favorable revision to the comprehensive plan staff 1065 01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,960 is recommending approval of the comprehensive plan amendment to the zoning 1066 01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:01,880 to the future land use map and the next step would be City Council on October 1067 01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:09,960 14th and I'll be happy to answer any questions commissioners do you have any 1068 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:15,960 questions or comments at this time yes mr. McDuff yes miss Stanley would you 1069 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:23,040 speak to the environmentally sensitive area the ESA we continue to be concerned 1070 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:29,240 about preservation sure yes there is some environmentally sensitive area to 1071 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:33,280 the east of the subject site closer where you see and so on the very far 1072 01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:38,280 east side of this map where you see Elm Fork and Trinity River this area does 1073 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:42,920 have some ESA some of it kind of comes into the boundary here of the subject 1074 01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:47,560 area when any development would come forward in the future they would be 1075 01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:51,360 required to do an environmentally sensitive area field assessment to 1076 01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,640 identify those areas if they're encroaching they would have to do an 1077 01:43:54,640 --> 01:44:08,120 alternative ESA any other questions okay as of right now we do not have any 1078 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,360 public comments on this but is there anybody in the audience that would like 1079 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:18,400 to speak regarding this agenda item yes go ahead and come forward please make 1080 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:22,480 sure you state your name and address and then you we do ask that you still fill 1081 01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:32,280 out a speaker card for us good evening everybody my name is E Tony I my address 1082 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:40,360 is 50 120 East University Drive we are actually the property that Aaron was 1083 01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:47,520 talking about having some little affected by the reservation of the trees 1084 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:53,640 and stuff I just want to be honest with everybody we are planning to develop 1085 01:44:53,640 --> 01:45:01,280 this site and we are supporting this comprehensive comprehensive plan change 1086 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:09,240 and as somebody who is trying to bring something to this tree and environment 1087 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:16,480 is the biggest thing to me and my family as with some conversations with cities 1088 01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:25,120 and some county commissioners we made a promise that if we may remove any trees 1089 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:34,440 we will plant above what city requested to do so that's that's all thank you 1090 01:45:34,440 --> 01:45:44,520 thank you commissioners do you have any other questions any other public 1091 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:52,560 comments okay we will close the public hearing at this time on this agenda item 1092 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:59,720 any final comments or questions from the commissioners do we have a motion I 1093 01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,600 would you have a comment just a comment I think there was some concern about 1094 01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:11,440 traffic on 380 there was some we had some input from a citizen from that the 1095 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:15,880 e-comment oh we did I'm sorry yes ma'am thank you so much for reminding me we 1096 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:23,080 did have one e-comment that was against this proposal yes the e-comment did 1097 01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:30,400 speak to concern with fast traffic along us 380 and how these uses would would 1098 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:37,980 would interact with that traffic the uses that are allowed today under the 1099 01:46:37,980 --> 01:46:41,600 current zonings and current future land use designation what would align with 1100 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:47,720 that staff believes would be more inconsistent with this traffic today 1101 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:52,400 future future land use designations of low residential and the current zonings 1102 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:57,240 out there would allow things like single-family homes agricultural property 1103 01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:02,880 but really not a lot of larger development where we see multiple points 1104 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:08,240 of access and more traffic studies those single-family homes have have driveways 1105 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,160 directly off of us 380 and future development would be required to likely 1106 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:16,160 go through traffic studies have different points of access turn lanes 1107 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:20,760 that you wouldn't see today with single-family driveways does that answer 1108 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:24,960 the question yes I just want to make sure we address that concern thank you 1109 01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:33,880 commissioner okay anything else okay we have a motion from Commissioner Garland 1110 01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:39,440 yes I make a motion to approve the recommendation of the amendment of the 1111 01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:44,480 comprehensive plan as defined by the city and Commissioner Ketcher said you 1112 01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:51,560 have a second I second the motion okay any other discussion we will go ahead 1113 01:47:51,560 --> 01:48:11,080 and take a vote okay that passes unanimously four to zero that ends the 1114 01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:18,480 public hearing section of the evening we will go into the project matrix on PZ 1115 01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:26,360 25 - 28 do we have any updates to the matrix yes I will just add that we 1116 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:30,560 removed the one item from the matrix that we addressed last meeting regarding 1117 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:34,380 the I believe is the gas well request but that's the only change that we have 1118 01:48:34,380 --> 01:48:39,720 made at this time just to give you all the typical updates on council actions 1119 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,800 that have occurred on items that came before you all the mobility plan 1120 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:48,600 amendment that you recently heard for the area south of UNT Eagle and Avenue A 1121 01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:53,320 was approved by council at their meeting on the 16th as well as the plan 1122 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:57,460 development request for the property that was in that triangle between loop 1123 01:48:57,460 --> 01:49:04,080 288 I 35 north and highway 77 and then the alternative ESA plan that was heard 1124 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,160 that same night for the property on Spencer Road has been postponed 1125 01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:14,020 indefinitely those are the only updates that I have for you all okay any final 1126 01:49:14,020 --> 01:49:18,880 remarks from the commissioners okay I just want to again welcome 1127 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:24,080 Commissioner catcher said tonight I hope that this was an exciting one for your 1128 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:28,480 first one and I just want to thank the public we had quite a group of 1129 01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:32,760 attendance and it really does take the public to interact with the government 1130 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:38,120 you are checks and balances so I know a lot of them have left but if they should 1131 01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:42,760 see this thank you all for coming and I hope those of you watching know that 1132 01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:46,920 this is your opportunity come to these meetings because it's really important 1133 01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:51,760 and with that we will conclude our meeting at 749 tonight everyone have a 1134 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,080 good evening