WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:14.000 Good morning. I'm going to, seeing that we have a quorum, I'm going to call this meeting of the Mobility Committee of the City of Denton to order at 9.02. 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:20.000 Let's jump right in and take on item A, consider approval of the minutes of the meeting held September 10th. 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.000 I recommend approval. 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.000 I'll second. All in favor? 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:25.000 Aye. 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.000 Aye. All opposed? 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.000 All right, we're good. 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.000 That's not John either. 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:33.000 It is John. 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.000 Well, it is, right? 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.000 Are we okay with the sequence as presented in the agenda? 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.000 Yes. 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:43.000 Okay, that's what we're going to item B. 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:47.000 Very much looking forward to hearing from our Attorney-Champion Nicole Becker. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.000 Becker, sorry, can't say her name. It's been too long. 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:51.000 It's been too long. 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.000 Receive a report and hold the discussion regarding updates to the Denton 9 Transportation Authority. 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.000 Yes, good morning. 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:02.000 So, I have received a list of a few items that the committee had wanted some updates on. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:05.000 And so we do have a few updates there. 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:11.000 And then I would just like to talk about some of the things that we're doing in the City of Denton, just to keep the committee aware. 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:15.000 So, on the 17th of September... 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.000 Excuse me, sorry to interrupt you. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.000 You don't need the mic. 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.000 Oh, this mic doesn't matter? 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.000 It doesn't matter anymore. 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.000 Okay. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.000 Oh, so we can just turn it to the side. 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.000 Just like that one. 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:30.000 Yeah. 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.000 Are we okay with the minutes? 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.000 Okay. 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.000 Please, Karen. 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:46.000 So, on September 17th, Raymond Torres, our CEO, gave an update to the City Council about some of our bus stop pads, benches, and shelters. 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.000 And so I just want to provide an update. 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:58.000 DCT is currently working with our member cities to do an overall kind of an efficiency study to kind of look at all of our modes of transit, 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:06.000 how we are separating those modes of transit, how are staffing levels in accordance with those levels of transit. 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:17.000 And so as a part of that, we're going to be looking at our service delivery as a whole and looking to see what implementation schedule we should look at for modifying that service. 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:26.000 And as a part of that, we will include any change in stops, any sort of like bus benches or any shelters. 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:35.000 And so we should know more about that in the next handful of months because we're pretty deep into that, into the start of that efficiency study right now. 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:46.000 So I know that there has been some hesitation to go out there and put any permanent fixtures in place if the plan is in a handful of months to make alterations to some of those schedules. 00:02:46.000 --> 00:03:02.000 If there are particular locations that you're interested in, please let me know because I can forward those on and work with our operations team and our planning and development team to see if we have any stock for like benches, shelters, 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:08.000 what the infrastructure is at those particular locations and see what we can kind of do in the interim. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:13.000 So more to come on that. I will continue to update the committee on those items. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:20.000 The second item that was requested of an update was the Colorado breaker pedestrian and trail crossing. 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:25.000 And so I did want to provide an update on that. So DCTA is working with the city. 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:30.000 We've kind of taken individual roles to make the whole thing happen. 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:37.000 So the city is going to install the pedestrian crossing lights and the striping and then the city, then DCTA is going to handle all of the concrete work. 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:44.000 And so I do know that the city is placed in order for equipment. And right now we're slated to begin work at the end of the month. 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.000 So that's accurate. 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:54.000 And then the third item was the Bonnie raise service route changes due to the construction completion schedule. 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:58.000 And so Troy and really with our operations department is here. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:05.000 He's actually going to go out today and check out that area and then we'll provide Mario with an update via email. 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:09.000 And if you can distribute that to the committee. 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:16.000 So if there are no questions on those three items, I'd like to give the committee just an update on some of the things that we're doing in the city of Denton. 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:18.000 Yeah, OK. 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:25.000 Just on the bus stops and the shelters, because I've seen shelters that are at bus stops that are closed. 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:36.000 OK, so is it possible to review some of those if those stops aren't going to open? So that way, I mean, is that included in the efficiency study? 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:43.000 Yes. OK. Yes. But let me let me find out because we can look at our inventory and see where those are. 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:51.000 I can get you a specific update on what the plan is for those individual stops that are closed. 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:58.000 They're just empty, wasting. Yeah, let me find out because I know a lot of times when we look at installing benches and shelters, 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:05.000 there's some ADA infrastructure that has to be in place in order to not only put them in, but to make them accessible. 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.000 And so sometimes there's a little bit of hold up with that. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:12.000 But let me find out about the ones that are no longer in use because we may have a plan for them. 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:17.000 And I'm just not aware of it. I've only been back for three weeks. This is the start of my fourth week. 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:23.000 But let me check them out and I will include that in the update tomorrow if you can distribute that to the committee. Sure. 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:34.000 So everybody knows the state. Yes, sir. So I'll just share a comment that I said when Mr. Suarez came in as well. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:41.000 I hope that as you're looking at the efficiency of the system, you also still are aiming for increasing ridership 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:50.000 and understanding the barriers and Mr. Suarez did talk about how some of the new kinds of service have resulted in increases in ridership. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.000 Yes. That's sort of the intentional goal. Absolutely. 00:05:54.000 --> 00:06:01.000 Looking at the on demand, the first last mile connections is a primary component of that efficiency study. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.000 And finding out where does it really make sense that you have a fixed route schedule versus on demand? 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:09.000 And where can we increase ridership in looking at those on demand services? 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:18.000 One of those areas that we're looking at currently, we have a zone called the Denton Airport Zone, Dent Enterprise Airport Zone. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:22.000 And right now, ridership is not as high as what we would like to see. 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:29.000 And so we're looking at ways that we can modify that in the next few coming months to kind of increase that zone 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:33.000 or modify that zone to include Razor Ranch to potentially increase ridership there. 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:40.000 So we have a lot more flexibility when it comes to our zones as far as moving them and not doing them in conjunction with a major service change. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:46.000 And so that's one of the areas that we're looking at just in the interim while we're doing the efficiency study. 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.000 So hopefully we'll see some increase there once we have a final recommended plan. 00:06:50.000 --> 00:07:00.000 Is there any kind of initiative or effort specifically to identify what the barriers to increased ridership are? 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:06.000 I mean, I would say they're subjective. I mean, I think it depends who you talk to. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:13.000 I mean, sometimes it's going to be fixed routes. Sometimes it's going to be the cost of the ride. 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:20.000 Sometimes it's going to be gas prices, the fact that we're in Texas and everybody likes their large vehicle 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:30.000 versus, you know, using transit as kind of like in an eight, you know, cents, you know, places like New York. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:36.000 And obviously people are going to use transit much more frequently than they would ever think about using a car. 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:41.000 So I don't think you can drill it down to one specific reason why there is a decrease in ridership. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:48.000 I think it's probably there. It's a collective reason. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:53.000 I would say, to be completely honest, we struggle without internally being able to answer that one question. 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:59.000 And I think transit agencies across the country struggle to answer that question with one specific answer. 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.000 So I think it's probably a collection of reasons. 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:14.000 My suggestion would be to identify target profiles of customers that you would think would be gainable. 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:18.000 If I were in your shoes, I'd probably start with some focus groups. 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:27.000 That will be hard. Yes. Part of the efficiency study will be focus groups with our stakeholders and also with passengers. 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:30.000 So hopefully we'll gain a lot of insight from that. 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.000 So maybe adding potential passengers, non-passengers. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:33.000 Yes. 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.000 What would it take? 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:35.000 Okay. 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:36.000 You're a marketer. 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:37.000 Yeah, we'll include that for sure. 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:38.000 That way it will. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.000 Absolutely. 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:40.000 Thanks. 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.000 Yeah. 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.000 And you had more you wanted to share with us. 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.000 So everyone knows that it's State Fair of Texas time. 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.000 We've got a big weekend coming up, Texas OU weekend. 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:52.000 DCTA is offering a bundle deal. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:57.000 We've actually sold over 300 of these bundles thus far just in the last few weeks. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:05.000 It's $16.50 and you get a local DCTA pass, a local DART pass, and a State Fair of Texas ticket. 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.000 So that's about a $28 value that you're getting for $16.50. 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.000 And so we just like to let people know. 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.000 You can buy them at the DDTC, but it's a really great bundle. 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:19.000 We just had to purchase more tickets because it's been so successful. 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:23.000 So if you guys know of anybody or if you and your families are going to the State Fair, 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.000 we encourage you to use Transit to get there. 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:32.000 Also, Veterans Day on November 11th, we are doing our annual Veterans Day free ride promo. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:39.000 So you can ride any of our Connect bus services, the A-Train, or any of our Zone services free 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.000 as long as you have a military ID. 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.000 So we are offering that promotion. 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.000 And then moving into December, I can't believe we're talking about December, 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:54.000 but we're also working on the holiday lighting in Wasselfest 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.000 and the Holiday Express with the Denton County Friends of the Family. 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.000 So be looking for those two events and DCTA's involvement. 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.000 We do a lot of free ride promos where you just use a code word, so we're really excited about that. 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.000 You talk about focus groups. 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.000 One of the areas where we do like to garner community feedback 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.000 is through our Quarterly Social Service Agency roundtable forums. 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:20.000 And I know the city is very in tune with those and sends representatives, 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.000 but we have them coming up in November. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.000 So the one in Lewisville is November 6th and the one in Denton is November 7th, 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.000 and they're held in the morning. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:32.000 And it's just an opportunity for nonprofits. 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:36.000 We bring in the libraries, rec centers, anybody can attend. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:41.000 It's just a roundtable forum for us to talk about how transit services 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:45.000 are positively impacting those who are sitting around the table 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:49.000 or if there's a need and maybe that transit isn't addressing those needs. 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:55.000 So we really try to have an open discussion and walk away with an action item list 00:10:55.000 --> 00:11:00.000 of things that we can go back, talk about it, and provide updates to the group. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:04.000 So please know that those are available and anybody is welcome to attend. 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.000 When you send the updates on the other items, 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.000 would you just send kind of a listing of these major dates? 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.000 Sure. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.000 Because we'll include that in council packet. 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:14.000 I know that DRC picks that up and can help promote that. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.000 Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:21.000 And then just lastly, on October 14th, we are doing a public meeting 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.000 in conjunction with the North Central Texas Council of Governments 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:29.000 to promote our program of projects, which talks about our grant funding 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.000 and how we plan to use that grant funding. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.000 And so we just like to let everybody know that that's available. 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.000 The presentation is online. 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.000 And if you have any questions about that, you can ask us. 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.000 You can provide feedback online. 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:42.000 But we do present that in the fall every year. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.000 And so that's coming up. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.000 So that concludes my update. 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:49.000 Other than I'm extremely grateful to be back and so glad to see everybody. 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.000 So thank you for having me. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.000 Yeah, John. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:59.000 On the State Fair promotion, is there any increase in the number of trains 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.000 or the timing of the train in the evening? 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:07.000 Are there any plans for stranded passengers who don't get back in time 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.000 and they're stuck at the train mills? 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.000 So we have not modified our train schedule. 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.000 There are more green line schedules. 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.000 So DART has increased their schedule. 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:19.000 Typically in the past, and I can confirm with Troy, 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:23.000 for those late night trains, the ones where the green line drops off 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:27.000 at Trinity Mills and we don't have a connection any further to get you 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.000 back up to Denton or along the rail line, 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.000 we have put relief buses there in the past. 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.000 We haven't had any problems that I've heard of thus far. 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.000 I don't know if you haven't heard of any issues. 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.000 But typically our supervisors are well aware that this promotion is going on 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:46.000 and that this is an issue that we do experience sometimes. 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.000 I think maybe last year we had like one or two people that we had to bus back 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:56.000 because they took a late DART train that couldn't connect to DCT's A train. 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.000 So we're pretty in tune with it. 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.000 There's staff there available. 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.000 But if there is a need to get somebody back up north that we can get them north. 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.000 Currently we are addressing the passengers, 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:10.000 inquiring if they are going to the state fair. 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:14.000 And we're also making them aware of what time the last train is back. 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:19.000 So we're giving them that notice before they're going to town. 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:20.000 Correct. 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.000 And in the brochure that has the schedule, we also highlight, 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.000 this is the last A train schedule heading back north. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:31.000 But it's pretty few and far between that we've had any issues. 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.000 Anything else? 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:34.000 Thank you. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.000 Thank you. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.000 All right. 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.000 Item C. Receive a report and hold a discussion about a city of Denton mobility plan. 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:47.000 Work completed and future task items. 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:49.000 Good morning. 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:53.000 Pamela Mitchell, traffic engineer at the city. 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:57.000 And today I have a very general, quick update, 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:02.000 because we are tentatively having a work session October 22nd. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:05.000 If we can make the agenda, we'll be going to early November. 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:13.000 But that would be very technical and we will be updated with all that we've been working on. 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.000 So what has been completed since our last meeting? 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:20.000 We had four very productive meetings. 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:26.000 The first one we had our second technical stakeholder meeting on September 12th, 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.000 and that was very productive. 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:33.000 We received a lot of good feedback on the draft maps of their bike 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:38.000 and how we're prioritizing the pedestrian map. 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:46.000 We also came and presented on September 19th to the Committee on Persons with Disabilities. 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.000 Very good discussion. 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:53.000 They had a lot of good feedback on sidewalks, how to get around the city. 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:59.000 As far as sidewalk prioritization, they recommended we were focusing on schools. 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:05.000 They also would like for us to focus on major destinations on a day-to-day basis. 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:12.000 So we're definitely going to look into that option as we work on the pedestrian plan. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:17.000 We had a separate meeting with the Planning Department on September 20th. 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:21.000 They're part of the Stakeholder Technical Committee. 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:30.000 But we felt that we needed to have a separate meeting with them to really get a feel for all the development that's coming in, 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:37.000 what has already planned for the Broadway network, and making sure it all ties in. 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:43.000 And there aren't any huge issues once this draft is presented to Council. 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:48.000 And then recently we had a bicycle focus group meeting on September 25th. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:54.000 This was an idea presented by Mark Golfin, the bike and ped coordinator. 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.000 It was a great turnout. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.000 I believe it was like 25 people showed up at the bike shop near the square. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.000 And they had a lot of good feedback. 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:08.000 And as a result, the bike plan was updated because of that meeting. 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.000 Any question on those meetings? 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:19.000 Would you mind sharing maybe a headline or two preliminarily on the persons with disabilities and the bike group, 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:26.000 just particular major points that were a-has? 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:39.000 So the persons with disabilities, they did bring up the DCTA stations at just the major destinations. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:46.000 They mentioned preferring six-foot wire sidewalks, things like that. 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.000 Nothing really particular. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:53.000 Of course, university is always a concern of theirs. 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:57.000 The bicycle meeting was not there particularly. 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:01.000 And I have the meeting with the team this afternoon. 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:06.000 So they'll probably go into depth of what they heard and their feedback. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:12.000 But all of that will be presented at the work session with Council at the end of the month. 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:13.000 Thanks. 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.000 If we want, we can add a blurb to the Friday packet just to understand what it was. 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.000 Yeah. 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.000 A couple sentences of the meeting highlights. 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:21.000 Sure. 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.000 We'll do that. 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:31.000 I can do that. 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:39.000 So upcoming, we will be closing the citizen feedback survey, the interactive map this Friday 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:46.000 because we're wrapping up all the results, the maps, plans that we can present to Council at the end of the month, 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:51.000 early November. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:58.000 Any feedback on what you're looking to see at the work session? 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.000 I can relate to the project team. 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.000 Any questions that you would like answered in the blurb? 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.000 Council Member Briggs? 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.000 I'm not necessarily in the blurb. 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:12.000 Just a suggestion or a request that you talk to the sustainability department 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:21.000 because we had a meeting yesterday about reducing carbon and becoming less dependent or more neutral. 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:30.000 And part of the suggestions were bicycle and also since DCT is here, I'd like to mention, 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.000 public transportation on that. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:38.000 And so as we try to reach our goals in the same sustainability, 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:43.000 just having those partnerships with other departments and other organizations in the community 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.000 are going to be extremely important. 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:52.000 And as we update this plan, the amount of miles for bicycles and pedestrian added 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.000 can take that many more cars off the road. 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:01.000 So if there is a communication that can happen as you do this update with our sustainability, 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.000 that would be really great. 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.000 Okay. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.000 I'll definitely reach out to them. 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.000 Thank you. 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:11.000 Any very specific targets in these areas that would be good if it's safe? 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:18.000 Well, one thing we can do also too is, you know, since this portal is closing later this week, 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:23.000 you know, certainly reach out to those departments to push it out to those folks that are volunteers 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:29.000 that just work through that process to help respond to the survey and just get more feedback from citizens. 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.000 Another option. 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:32.000 Also a good thing. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:40.000 Council Member Briggs was referring to, it's very specific policy guidance that will come out of sustainability. 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.000 So we're coordinating. 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.000 Definitely. 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:46.000 Okay. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.000 Okay. 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.000 Thank you. 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.000 Thank you. 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.000 It's your time. 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:54.000 Bye. 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.000 Right. 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:56.000 Indeed. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:01.000 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding text-on-line system projects in that area. 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:02.000 Okay. 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.000 Thank you. 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:04.000 Thank you. 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.000 Thank you. 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:06.000 Thank you. 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.000 Thank you. 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:08.000 Thank you. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.000 Thank you. 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:10.000 Thank you. 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.000 Thank you. 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.000 Thank you. 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:13.000 Thank you. 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:14.000 Thank you. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:15.000 Thank you. 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:16.000 Thank you. 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:17.000 Thank you. 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.000 Thank you. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.000 Thank you. 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.000 Thank you. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:21.000 Thank you. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:22.000 Thank you. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:23.000 Thank you. 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.000 Thank you. 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.000 Thank you. 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:26.000 Thank you. 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.000 Thank you. 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:28.000 Thank you. 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:29.000 Okay. 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:30.000 So we'll get right to the good stuff. 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:37.000 We're working on about $2.5 billion worth of projects within the city of Denton. 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:39.000 Zachary signed the contract. 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:44.000 Actually, Berkshire Hathaway signed the contract on November 7th, earlier this week, and they 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:48.000 will be -- they're currently out of their mobile license, so they will be -- the good 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.000 news is they'll be back at work very shortly. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:58.000 The kind of bad news is they've got all the time back, so it's like starting over. 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.000 So it's 500-something days. 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:04.000 October 7th or no? 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.000 What did I say? 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.000 You said November. 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:09.000 They signed the contract in October. 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:16.000 Zachary will be back on -- and I know it says fully executed, but Berkshire Hathaway signed 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:21.000 it on November -- I mean, October 4th, and then Zachary signs their contract with Berkshire 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.000 on the 7th and then mobilizes. 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.000 So it's a two-step process. 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:26.000 Okay. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:31.000 Did I make that up pretty good? 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:35.000 I remember in part of our conversation, we were talking about all the work that had been 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:38.000 done and the materials that were laying on the side of the road. 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.000 Are they going to have to be redone and replaced? 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.000 Yes. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:49.000 Well, the work that's already done that's in the ground, Berkshire Hathaway has to accept 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:50.000 and warranty. 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:56.000 The work that's -- the material that's still laying out that was for the city's utilities, 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:01.000 the city is not accepting that material, and as long as they don't change, if we're thinking 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:06.000 about changing their specs, it's up to -- and that was part of the deal with Berkshire, 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.000 they have to replace the material. 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.000 So that's part of this redo. 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.000 So that's good. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.000 Yes. 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:24.000 So a forward drive project, and as you know, the main critical item on this project is 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:30.000 the road crossing and the shoe flag, and they're laying down the track even as we speak. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:39.000 The traffic will switch this Thursday to the new concrete pavement south of the railroad. 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.000 So they'll be split. 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.000 They'll take the southbound traffic and move them onto the new temporary pavement, and 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:47.000 then they'll be working in the middle, similar to what they've been doing north of the railroad 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:48.000 track. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:54.000 And we think that this contract is probably going to get delayed because we had some delays 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:59.000 early on in the project, but we don't know exactly, but we know that it will probably 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.000 be not November of 2020. 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:08.000 It may slip a couple of months, but we still have time to try to catch that up. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:17.000 Do we know just south of Daniels on this project, there's like a 100-foot strip that they didn't 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:20.000 put the temporary pavement on? 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.000 Do we know who's held up that is? 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:24.000 I don't. 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:25.000 I can check on that. 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:28.000 I mean, because they've got the temporary pavement all the way down to Country Club, 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:35.000 except for this 100-foot strip right by the trailer park that, as far as switching sides, 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:40.000 I'm just wondering, who's at fault for that, or what is the reason for that not having 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.000 been? 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.000 Okay. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.000 I can check on that. 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.000 I don't know. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.000 I can find out Thursday. 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:46.000 Oh, that's right. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.000 Thursday. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.000 Yeah. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.000 All right. 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.000 You may know 35E job. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.000 This was November of 2020. 00:23:55.000 --> 00:24:01.000 We're now moving into May of '21 because of the additional parcels we have to acquire 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:08.000 in this section of the project up to the 288 project, so it gives us a little bit of time 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:13.000 between when the OHL job gets done and this one starts, so we'll get them used to having 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:18.000 a nice road, and then we'll tear it all apart again. 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.000 OHL will be done by then? 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.000 I think so, because did you drive it today? 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:23.000 Because they've switched the traffic. 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.000 I was fixing to tell you that. 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.000 Traffic has been switched. 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:32.000 You now can drive on the southbound main lanes in the southbound side. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.000 They've got the center still blocked out because they're going to put the concrete center barrier 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.000 up, and then re-strap it. 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:43.000 The northbound on-ramp from 288 is physically there. 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:49.000 They've got to do some strapping as well on that, and the southbound ramp is almost all 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.000 there, permanent for the mega-lex. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:59.000 So within days, maybe 10 or so, we should start to see traffic get relieved around the 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:06.000 288 because of the work that they're doing to switch the traffic, because they couldn't 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:09.000 do the ramps until they moved the traffic to the southbound. 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.000 Now the ramps are physically there. 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.000 They've got to come in and do some strapping, which when they do the strapping, they'll 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:23.000 also fix the strapping at Dallas Drive to make it one lane, and we are working with 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:30.000 city staff on a permanent solution to that Dallas Drive intersection so we don't have 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.000 to go through Cowboys parking lot to get around. 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:41.000 So we're going to look at a permanent infrastructure improvement there next. 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:50.000 I had a question about that, because the breaker looks like it's ready to open, but we're 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.000 told that it will not until the light comes in, the signal. 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:58.000 And so if we can have an update on where that is. 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:06.000 I think we've ordered the equipment to be in place, and then we're working on the agreement 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:11.000 with Textile, so we have kind of a verbal agreement that, yes, we're going to move forward 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:16.000 as quickly as possible while we go through the process of getting it on council and signing 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:24.000 up, but our goal is to get that intersection going in the next 30 days, which is what we 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:26.000 promised traffic safety yesterday. 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.000 So Textile's lending the city the temporary poles. 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.000 The city's still got to order them. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:34.000 There's a six or seven week lag in delivery. 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.000 Once they get them, they'll just give those poles back to Textile. 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:44.000 So we're trying to do everything we can, because we know it's like a Christmas tree, right? 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.000 Right before Christmas, where all the presents are under it, because it's perfectly usable. 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:49.000 It's striped. 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:50.000 It's ready to go. 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.000 But it's just we can't open it without a signal, and people are -- we've asked -- you'll 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.000 hear again, I think, on Thursday. 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:04.000 We've asked -- didn't find us to actively patrol it, because people are -- they're just taking 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 it, and it's too tempting. 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:11.000 So we're really moving on that, doing every trick we can to get this thing done as quickly 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.000 as possible. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.000 OHL would not accept the work. 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.000 We tried in vain, probably in my mind too long. 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:23.000 We tried to get them to do it, but once we realized they wouldn't, we quickly switched. 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.000 The city stepped up, said, "We can take care of it. 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.000 We need some help." 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.000 Textile says, "We can help." 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:32.000 And so we're still about a month behind schedule. 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:37.000 So for clarification, the temporary poles will be up within a month, and then the -- 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.000 The whole signal should be up. 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:40.000 Oh, okay. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.000 Now let us clarify the clarification. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.000 Okay. 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:50.000 The temporary signals are for the current job with OHL's doing. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:56.000 When Mayhill comes in and does the frontage road from Mayhill to 288, they'll put the 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:02.000 big, masked, big arm signals, the permanent signals up at Brinker. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.000 So these are temporary. 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:09.000 These would be strand pole wire signals in the interim to keep the -- get the intersection 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.000 operational. 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:15.000 But then when the Mayhill job comes in, they'll take those out and put the permanents in. 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.000 But the temporary ones, we're looking at at that point. 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:19.000 Yes. 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:20.000 Thank you. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:26.000 So by the time we get back to this next meeting, you can all pretend personally responsible 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.000 if it's not happening. 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:30.000 Okay. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.000 On the exit ramps in this area, I haven't driven them. 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.000 They were paving it the last time I drove it. 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:36.000 Right. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:42.000 Did they do it where it is a separate lane for the off-ramp, or is it -- 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.000 No, it merges. 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:48.000 It's the yield-type situation for the service room. 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.000 That's the -- 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.000 What are they doing? 00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.000 That's the new paradigm. 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:52.000 That's the old paradigm, isn't it? 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.000 Well, it's the old paradigm that came back. 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:54.000 Is it like avocado? 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:55.000 The theory is, ultimately -- the color. 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.000 Yeah, okay. 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.000 Our parents were in the building business. 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:58.000 That's why I told you. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.000 Power is gold. 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.000 Where was I? 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.000 The old paradigm. 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.000 Oh, paradigm. 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.000 Okay. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.000 So, remember when we were in the building business? 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.000 Yeah. 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.000 That's the old paradigm. 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.000 The old paradigm. 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:22.000 So, remember, we're going, ultimately, to what they call three-two frontage roads. 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.000 Right? 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:28.000 So, the frontage roads will have two lanes of traffic between the intersection and the 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:33.000 exit ramp, three lanes of traffic between the exit ramp and the entrance ramp, and then 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.000 back to two. 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:39.000 So, ultimately, you'll have that third lane is supposed to be just the auxiliary for the 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.000 transition and merge traffic for on and off the freeways. 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:49.000 But right now, we're at a two-lane frontage road system, so we're training them poorly, 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:56.000 I'll have to admit, it frustrates me, that that's what it's going to be in the future. 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:02.000 If they haven't striped it yet, is it possible to get them to narrow it down to one lane 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:05.000 for free traffic? 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.000 I just know that those yield signs don't work. 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:09.000 Don't work. 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:14.000 I want to carry one in my truck and beat people to death when they don't yield. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.000 But my wife told me that's not proper etiquette. 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:22.000 Northbound at Fort Worth Drive, up at 35, is perfect. 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.000 Narrow it down to one lane, you got one lane for the people coming off 35, one lane for 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.000 the people coming off 35. 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.000 Right. 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:36.000 We came in when they had Dallas Strip closed, and the exit ramp closed there, having them 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:41.000 hit Teasley and come around, we had them actually pull that striping so that we could get more 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.000 than one lane of frontage to the signal. 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:48.000 So, I would say on Thursday, we need to talk about that. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:54.000 I think it's a pretty tough road to hoe right now, with their paradigm, because they're 00:30:54.000 --> 00:31:02.000 going to that everywhere, the yield, as opposed to pushing them over. 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:07.000 So, I think that's a district-wide issue that we're going to fight. 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:12.000 But we can bring it up. 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:19.000 Alright, so your 35E, 35W Merge project, again, this project is fully funded. 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:24.000 We are working, the critical path item right now is not just the right-of-way and utilities, 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:32.000 but it's also the bridge structures, and so we've got our bridge layouts, and we anticipate 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.000 getting them to the division in January. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:41.000 So, we're still looking for a January 2023 let date, and there's a lot of coordination 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:48.000 with this part, and then a little part to the north, to 77, on the next job, with city 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:55.000 utilities, and we're meeting regularly with your staff on that. 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.000 This is that little piece I was talking about. 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:04.000 It doesn't look little on this page, up to here, but when you look at this project, it's 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.000 just a small portion here. 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.000 So, we're going to do the wishbone, and the green for sure is one project. 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.000 We may end up doing more of this, this one project. 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.000 That's why they're close on their let dates. 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:24.000 But this project, we got it environmentally cleared. 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:30.000 Last week, I was sitting talking to TechStop at STAC, and I was lamenting that we can't 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:36.000 get the TechZone MPO to act, and they said they'd get an interim out-of-cycle improvement, 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:37.000 and we're clear. 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.000 So, we will give you the specific date on that. 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:47.000 So, what happens is we have to send these reports to get into your system about 10 days 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.000 prior to why it's showing up. 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:51.000 So, a lot of things happen between when I submit it. 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.000 So, it's not that I'm an idiot. 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:58.000 These are just things that change between when I submit it and when I get here. 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:02.000 But this has been environmentally cleared now, and we'll update that report and get 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.000 that to you. 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.000 So, we're ready to go on this project, everything. 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:12.000 The rideways are being acquired, and the designs are being done, and we're shooting for that 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.000 22-let date. 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:21.000 Okay, so your main lane project, this project, we were operational, and then we got the traffic, 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:29.000 started looking at the traffic, and the traffic was not right, and so we had to go back to 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.000 division, and so we're still working with TechStop. 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.000 That's what all that means. 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:40.000 TechStop is coordinating to be determined and update project schedules because we can't 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.000 validate any of our assumptions without the traffic, and we're having a difficult time 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.000 getting the right traffic out of Austin. 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:56.000 So, we're still looking at next year, having this project environmentally cleared, and 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:00.000 assuming we can get the traffic resolved soon. 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.000 This is the main lanes, just the main lanes. 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:10.000 This project is the frontage roads, and the frontage roads within Texas Motor Speedway 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:11.000 South are already there. 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.000 That's why it just starts there and goes north. 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:22.000 Jacobs is working on this project, and we are looking for spring of next year for environmental 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.000 clearance. 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:31.000 We're already identifying the parcels and the number of tracks that are going to be 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.000 required, and we're shooting for a left date of 2023. 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:40.000 The reason it says 2025 is because there's no money associated with this project yet, 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.000 but as we get it environmentally cleared in the March 2020 timeframe, I think we were 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:52.000 talking to staff the other day about we can pick the sections of -- we don't have to do 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.000 all 295 million. 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.000 We just have to pick sections that we want, similar to what we did in the South, where 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.000 we did the southbound frontage road to the northbound between the Eagle and 114th. 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.000 So, we can pick sections once it's cleared and focus on that. 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:11.000 And so, once it's cleared, we'll come back in spring next year, get with the city, say 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:15.000 what's your druthers, and you tell us what you want to do, and that's what we'll focus 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.000 on. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.000 That's -- is this widening into 6 lines? 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.000 This is the frontage roads. 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.000 Okay. 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:28.000 So, what we're doing is we broke it into two pieces, and the reason we're doing that is 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:33.000 the main lanes that they're allowing us to do right now in the mobility plan is a rural 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.000 highway, 6 lanes. 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:40.000 So, it was going to be what they call a 3223, which is what's coming out of Tarrant County, 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:47.000 3 general purpose, 2 managed northbound, 2 managed southbound, and 3 general purpose. 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.000 We had to change that in the mobility plan because the commission said they weren't going 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.000 to accept any more managed lanes. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:01.000 So, all we're doing is changing it from an urban 3223 to a rural 6, and the footprint 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:06.000 for a rural 6 is the same as an urban 3223. 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:12.000 Building the frontage roads, leaving the center wide open so that when they change their mind, 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:17.000 they will have the footprint for handling. 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.000 Have them drive through there after 3 o'clock any day of the week. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.000 Right. 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.000 So, that's why we're doing it split. 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.000 There's some method to our madness. 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.000 The frontage roads are always going to be where the frontage roads are going to be, and 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.000 the frontage roads are what drive development. 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:36.000 So, it's the things we want first anyway. 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.000 Okay. 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:42.000 So, I think I told you last month that this project has always been two sections. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:49.000 The blue section was led out to private firms to do the design, and they did the design 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.000 in-house in the green. 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.000 It's both fully funded. 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:59.000 They want to let this project sooner than 2021, sometime in 2020, which means October 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:03.000 19 through September 20. 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:08.000 So, we're meeting with city staff coordinating on that because, A, it's good news that they're 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.000 going to do the dent section first. 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:15.000 The bad news is we've got to make sure we're out of the way. 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.000 So, this project will go first, and once we know that, we'll break these projects into 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:25.000 two, and they'll have their own schedule. 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:26.000 Loop 288. 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:32.000 288 is having the same problem along the traffic as 35W. 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:38.000 We're working through it, and we're still hoping to get this project cleared September 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:44.000 next year, but we're a little bit further along on 288 than we are on 35W, so I think 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:50.000 that's eminently doable if we can get the traffic resolved in the next month or so. 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:56.000 So, the reason traffic matters is this is a controlled access facility like 35W, and 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.000 you can't put the ramps just anywhere you want. 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:04.000 You have to put them based on where the traffic warrants, and so we know where they need to 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:09.000 be, but we can't prove that they were warranted without the proper traffic, and the traffic 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:17.000 we're getting was, it didn't have the right nodes connected to it, so it was underestimating 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:22.000 and saying things weren't warranted, and we know they are based on what COGS demographics 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:30.000 shows, so we're having this modeling battle between the region and the division. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.000 On this one, because I know that we've had, there were some issues with gas wells and 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:40.000 things such as that, is there a requirement for TxDOT to build the road? 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:45.000 Does it have to be a certain distance away from the gas well, or can it be as close as? 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.000 It can be fairly close or adjacent to the right of way, it cannot be in the right of 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:55.000 way, and so that's, a lot of the times you see us move because of gas wells is because 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.000 we were in the right of way. 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:03.000 And if you look, the reason why this has got such a long life cycle timeline on it, is 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:07.000 if you were to go to, and I encourage you to do this, it's interesting, go to Ditton 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:14.000 County's landmark, go to their GIS, and go to the landmark, that's that map, and top 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:19.000 in, go into this area and hit gas wells and transmission lines. 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.000 Check mark that. 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:27.000 And this whole section of the county, 35 W, 35 West, will turn almost black with the 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.000 number of wells and transmission lines. 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.000 We've threaded the needle on the wells. 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:38.000 The hard part is going to be that underneath those little wells is a spiderweb of transmission 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:46.000 lines that we're going to have to deal with, and they're not a pure franchise utility, 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:52.000 and so they're dealt with differently, and they're not, the state doesn't have as much 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:59.000 authority to move them around, push them around as they can on a utility, so you end up costing 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.000 a lot of money and they drag your feet. 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:10.000 So, we try to avoid the gas wells themselves, but they can be fairly close, and if you look 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.000 at Cleveland Gibbs and 35 W, there's a gas well right there at the corner, right up against 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.000 that right over there. 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:23.000 So they can be next door neighbors as long as you're not in the right of way. 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:28.000 I don't know if that's good or bad. 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:34.000 And then our favorite project for pre-10, 15-15, we are moving forward. 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:40.000 We're still looking at December vinyl cleanse with the Wishbone project getting funded, 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.000 which funds this leg of 35 W. 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:49.000 We've got to do some more due diligence now to make sure that what we're doing with 15-15 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:54.000 is consistent with what 35 W is planning on, so there's some coordination, and then you 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.000 got Bonnie Bray coming right through the middle of it. 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:02.000 So, there's three projects that we have to coordinate to make sure they're during how 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.000 to bridge to nowhere. 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:10.000 1173, speaking of making sure there's not a bridge to nowhere, the 35 project that we 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:18.000 have funded does include the realignment of 1173 to the Bartholomew Road, so we'll at 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:24.000 least have the intersection there for the time, you know, it's pretty close in the time 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.000 frame, but this project is not funded, but the interchange at 35 will be included in 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:34.000 the 35 project in the proper location. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.000 428, this is just a starter. 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:41.000 TxDOT has not got anybody on board to do the limited access facility here. 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:47.000 Pre-10 is working on the signal work and the justification for the warrant to submit to 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:53.000 TxDOT, and we'll work with them whenever they get that done. 00:41:53.000 --> 00:42:02.000 Bonnie Bray, Phase 7, this is for the extension to tie into 288. 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:10.000 This is a project where we're tracking, but it's essentially our partnership with the 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.000 Metropolitan Planning Organization. 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:17.000 They're going to help us with the blue line in front of the school, and then Cog is going 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:22.000 to work with TxDOT as a partner and probably ask the county for assistance on the green 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:28.000 project, so we're just showing you this as a, that we're tying Bonnie Bray into 288, 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:33.000 but it really shouldn't require any funding from the city. 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:37.000 What about the projected dates, sir? 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:45.000 We haven't got anybody on board yet for Phase 7 at TxDOT yet, so the city has spent some 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.000 money to do a schematic, so we're not dead in the water. 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:54.000 We have been working on it, so we're just going to get Cog and TxDOT to say yes. 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:59.000 They'll bring on a consultant to finish it, and we'll get you a date, cycle it, and we're 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.000 going to try it. 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:03.000 All of this is another reason why we're meeting with your staff, because when you go back 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:15.000 and look at 35, which I will, because this is the last project, you got January of 2023, 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.000 which is the critical one. 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.000 The next one is a little earlier, because we've been working on it longer. 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:26.000 You got January of 2023, where this project and probably that green part of the northern 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:32.000 section will go under the knife, and Bonnie Bray, we're working on it in all of this corridor, 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:39.000 and we're trying to get as much of this in place prior to that date, and the good news 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:45.000 is that date probably will slip a little bit, because they always do, but your staff isn't 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:46.000 counting on that. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:55.000 We're already meeting pretty regularly to figure out how to get that road on the ground. 00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:00.000 That tie-in is that portion right up here, and TxDOT knows that this is coming, Cog knows 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.000 this is coming, and so they know that's a critical item with the schedule, so we're 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:11.000 going to try to keep it to where it gets done as quickly as possible before this thing goes 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:12.000 under the knife. 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:18.000 That's why I think they'd already be on board and kind of have dates, because that's the 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:19.000 plan. 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:26.000 Yes, but they only knew they got this funded by the commission in July, so now it's October, 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:33.000 and now we're starting to unthread the sweater, unravel it, to see what all that implies, 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:40.000 and this, Bonnie Bray, is one of the implications, and so we're just now getting to the consequences 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:46.000 of our success, and that should be it for me. 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.000 I have a few follow-up questions. 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:51.000 Uh-oh. 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:57.000 You mentioned Dallas Drive a little bit, but you were talking about the connection. 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:01.000 Is there a date for the on-ramp to open? 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.000 Is that in conjunction with Breakers still? 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.000 No. 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:12.000 The on-ramp is, they're striping part of the, the ramps are there right now because they 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:19.000 drove through it today, and they're going to strike the on-ramp at 288 and the off-ramp 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:25.000 for Mayhill, and under that part of that contract, they're going to restripe the Dallas Drive 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.000 to one lane, because right now it's two, and then you merge right at the signal. 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.000 They're going to reduce that back down to one lane, and that should be done sometime 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.000 in October, is what we were told. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.000 So the striping? 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.000 No. 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:39.000 No? 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:40.000 Yeah, I'm talking about heading south. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.000 Under the bridge. 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.000 Under the, coming down Dallas Drive. 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.000 On to 35. 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:46.000 Oh. 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.000 Yeah, that won't open until the project's completely done. 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.000 What, what do you mean completely? 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:52.000 Okay. 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:59.000 I'll tell you the current inaccurate date, uh, is December 2019. 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:00.000 Okay. 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.000 So it is in conjunction with, with the same. 00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.000 Yeah, that'll be the last thing that happens on this job. 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:12.000 They will not open Dallas Drive until everything is perfect, because it's, it jams the traffic 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.000 into a section that's already pretty bad. 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:22.000 So you mean both, um, frontage roads and the light at Brinker and then Dallas Drive on-ramp. 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:29.000 So the, yeah, so the, the frontage roads, ramps, on and off, and the striping of Dallas 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:33.000 Drive should happen in the next 30 days. 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:39.000 Uh, Dallas Drive being able to go southbound on to 35 won't open until essentially the 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.000 LHL hands the keys back to textile. 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:46.000 I just want to make sure it didn't have anything to do with mayhem, but it was just. 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.000 No, it has to do with, uh, that it comes in on the left. 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:51.000 Okay. 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.000 So, and, um, one more question. 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:59.000 So there's barrels along 380, and people have asked me what they're for, and I'm saying 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:00.000 it's median work. 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.000 Is that what's going on? 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.000 You had, like, uh, didn't buy one of that? 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, all the way in north. 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.000 I go to church, right? 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.000 I'm an usher, and these guys like treating me like I'm their consultant. 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.000 They want to know what that's going on. 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:12.000 Call the city. 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:16.000 Well, I mean, you know, there's no communication. 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.000 I don't know what's going on. 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.000 I want to find out as soon as I leave here. 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:25.000 Well, I think what it is is I've noticed the edges of the medians have been broken out 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.000 and rewired. 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.000 I think they're fixing the crushed medians, and that's what I've been saying. 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.000 But I just wanted to clarify that that's all. 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:37.000 If we don't know by today, we'll know by Thursday when we get cornered Tina and ask 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.000 her why she's doing stuff without letting us know. 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.000 But, uh, yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.000 Okay. 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.000 Okay, we'll go to church. 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:54.000 Okay, thanks a lot. 00:47:54.000 --> 00:48:00.000 Let's move on to item E, staff reports. 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:10.000 So I want to tell you, let me pull up the matrix to see if we can take some items out 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.000 and clean it up so that we have more space. 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:16.000 So we can fill it back in? 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.000 Fill it back in. 00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:19.000 New stuff. 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:26.000 There we go. 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.000 Okay. 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:35.000 So I know these first two or three or four are continuing, and do we want to continue 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:36.000 keeping them on? 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:42.000 Because I think this one-way two-way and then the rope diet, these will all be discussed 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.000 as part of the mobility plan. 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:51.000 So we are getting updates on the mobility plan on a monthly basis. 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.000 So do we want to keep them on the matrix? 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:57.000 Because that's an agenda item that we can, if we can take them out, we'll always have 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.000 a mobility plan update. 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:05.000 Or do you want to keep them just to specifically focus on that, on those two items? 00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.000 Well, I was told that those two were going to be in a presentation coming to council 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.000 soon, and so when that presentation comes to council, I think these can roll off. 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.000 Okay. 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.000 Perfect. 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.000 And then DCTA, I think we talked to them about the bus shelters, but do you want to, DCTA 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.000 shelters and benches, do you want to keep them or constantly keep them? 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.000 I'm not 100% sure of our motivation here. 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:33.000 The last I heard, you know, we're not paying by the vertical inch for, you know, screen 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.000 space. 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:41.000 I mean, you know, just to be strictly following the logic we heard, you're going to hear this. 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.000 So, okay, then when we hear it, it'll be done. 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:45.000 Okay. 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:52.000 No, because I think some of this has really old dates and it just looks as if there's 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:56.000 nothing happening or you've not really heard about this item for a long time. 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.000 I acknowledge that. 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:58.000 We just heard about it today. 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.000 We heard that it's coming, you know, and I'm not unhappy about it. 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.000 Now, I do have an issue with item four. 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:09.000 I personally feel that the I should always be before the E and the word yield. 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:14.000 That's my position. 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:20.000 And that can come off because it's been looked at and nothing is. 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:25.000 And it's probably more embarrassing than the date, right? 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:26.000 It is. 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:29.000 Item six, we're planning on taking that up because that has been completed. 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:35.000 It was refreshed on the crosswalks. 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.000 Can we go back up to five for a second? 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.000 Yes, sure. 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:43.000 Because I believe that when we were talking about the mobility plan, this was an issue 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.000 for the disability committee as well. 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.000 I think it's the same section. 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:55.000 And so just to go back to this, is there any -- are we still talking to the -- 00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:56.000 Let me -- 00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:01.000 -- develop the -- I guess the person who owns it and TxDOT and the city. 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:02.000 The micro room. 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.000 The micro room. 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.000 Yes. 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.000 It's in the light. 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:10.000 I mean, it's really dangerous. 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.000 If you're in a wheelchair, there's nothing to do. 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:23.000 No, I'm not. 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:28.000 So the real issue here is the right-of-way. 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.000 TxDOT has right-of-way. 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.000 Let me get to the location right there. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.000 So TxDOT has the right-of-way on 380. 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:44.000 And right behind it is a private property. 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.000 So there are two separate things here. 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:51.000 And in order to have that access directly down here, you have to wrap it down here 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.000 and then bring it into the parking lot. 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:56.000 But you can't really leave anything in the parking lot. 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.000 There is no sidewalk that extends or connects. 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.000 And there is no ramp on the other end. 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.000 So there is no crosswalk. 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:13.000 So it's a bigger issue and a larger project that it looks as if it's not necessarily a quick little ramp and it's done. 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:23.000 So we have talked to TxDOT about this, and currently they don't have any plans or funding or anything to move forward on. 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.000 So I have a question. 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:29.000 If you could go back to the one section where it goes in and it's a holding spot. 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.000 So if you're in a wheelchair, there's nothing you can do, really. 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:42.000 So if we just busted that curb away, and people could either -- I mean, why is that curb there? 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:48.000 I mean, it would just make more sense if it was -- I mean, I don't know if that's allowed or not, 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:53.000 but at least somebody could get off of that. 00:52:53.000 --> 00:53:00.000 So this curb is specifically directed for folks when they -- it's a bus stop right here, right? 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.000 I mean, when they get off. 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:03.000 Is it a bus stop? 00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.000 I don't think it's a bus stop. 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:12.000 Yeah, it's not -- it doesn't make any sense. 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:19.000 I just -- what just -- if we could get creative and kind of think maybe out of the box, if possible, 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:23.000 because I know that that's an issue, too, and I -- 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:26.000 I think it's because it's raised there, isn't it? 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:31.000 Yeah, there's a -- if you look at it, this level is way higher than this. 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.000 I would say a good six to eight inches. 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:37.000 It's raised, and it empties into a drive lane on the private side. 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:42.000 So where we're struggling is where do you safely put somebody, 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:46.000 because the alternative is to take it away completely. 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.000 And that's where we're struggling with this issue. 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:53.000 You don't want to take, especially somebody who is potentially visually impaired, 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.000 and dump them into a drive lane on private property. 00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:01.000 So we could take the back of that curb down, and we could drop the ramp down. 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.000 But until we designate and we don't have easement to do this, 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.000 we'd have to work with the private property owner, 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:13.000 you're putting them in an area where cars drive through that area and make the rights on the left. 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.000 And that's the concern as we start to try to figure out what do we do here. 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.000 We have no control of the private property. 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.000 We can only make suggestion, and then we're taking some liability on it. 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:26.000 So it's textile when we bust the back of the curb and empty it into access. 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.000 But I think the other issue, though, that Council Member is mentioning is 00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:33.000 you may be dumping them into a parking lot, but you're also dumping them onto 380. 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.000 I don't disagree with you. 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.000 I don't disagree with you, and that's where the alternative is, 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:44.000 is you take the crosswalk away and you take the landing away so that it makes sense that nobody, 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:48.000 which is really the strictest definition of what the ADA actually says, 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:52.000 is if you're both, if you're able-bodied and you have a crossing, 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:57.000 you need to make it accessible to a disabled body and vice versa. 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:02.000 So that's where we're coming down with how do you get to the best possible solution here. 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:04.000 It involves a lot more than just us. 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.000 It's the state. 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:10.000 It's understanding the constraints of the accessibility issue altogether 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.000 and the private sector because it belongs to somebody we have no control of their property over. 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.000 So what does that sign right there on the poles? 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.000 It says no walking. Where do you not walk? 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.000 You don't cross the straitway. 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:26.000 So that's a sign for folks between these two poles that don't cross here. 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:32.000 If you want to cross, go on the other side and then cross that street there. 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:33.000 That's what it says. 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.000 So it only has two crossings here. 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:40.000 We'll keep working with them, but those are the options. 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.000 I mean, the reality is those are the options. 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:46.000 We have to work with the private property owner, which can take time because there's no, 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:53.000 there's not a compelling argument that makes them do something versus, 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:58.000 do you leave the access point, which I agree makes no sense for the, 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:03.000 especially for the disabled-body person to go anywhere. 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:09.000 And one of the challenging parts of this is when 380 was built between Fulton, 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:15.000 right about here, and Carroll, there was no sidewalk laid down on the north side at all. 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.000 So the sidewalk is missing. 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:23.000 Everything on this side west, there's sidewalk on the north side if you can see. 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:26.000 And on this side of Carroll, there's sidewalk on the north side. 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:29.000 This is the only segment that does not have it. 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:34.000 So it's a, if we're doing things right, I think we need to install the sidewalk, 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.000 install the ranch, and make it appropriate. 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:40.000 And it all takes that right of way. 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.000 I understand that we're trying to have a solution, 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:48.000 but this is the only place that there is a crossing in order to provide that ADA 00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:53.000 compliancy, we cannot put a crosswalk without having a ramp on the other side. 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:59.000 And that's why, that's the reason why TechStock had that ramp in the first place. 00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:04.000 But it's a very challenging location, but a lot of people do cross here, 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:09.000 so it's not something that we really want to take out as far as a crosswalk. 00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:16.000 No, it's a main connection, because you'd rather cross here than down at the Carroll bus lane. 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:21.000 But you mentioned someone who is not able to see. 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:26.000 I would not like to see what happens if they get to here, I mean, either. 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:30.000 So, anyway, I'd like to keep it on the matrix if that's okay. 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:33.000 We'll leave it there. 00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:41.000 Thank you. 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:46.000 So the Malone ride turn versus bike lanes, I think Mark presented on this item 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:53.000 and we discussed what we could do is probably have a ride up or a blurb on this, 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:55.000 just so that it covers it. 00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:00.000 I'll leave it for now, but then I'll, once we have it on the discussion, 00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.000 then we can talk about it later. 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:07.000 This one, I'll ask, I have to remember why, if he wants to take that out, 00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:17.000 because PD has already enforced on Bernard Street. 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.000 Oh, sorry. 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:24.000 Didn't mean to put you on the spot, but on this particular item for enforcement, 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.000 I think PD had up the enforcement, can you take it up? 00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:32.000 And then the second item, if you want, I can have a blurb from PD. 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.000 Actually, what are the rules? 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.000 So that way you have an idea. 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:41.000 Yeah, because the biggest complaint we get is we're trying to put in more bike lanes, 00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:44.000 is well, the bikers don't follow the rules anymore. 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:48.000 So if we could say, well, the police have these policies in place 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.000 and they are writing some tickets or they are doing something, 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.000 it gives us something to fall back on. 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:59.000 Yes, so I'll take number eight out, but then I'll leave this 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:02.000 and give you a group that explains some of this. 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:07.000 Rockwood and Mistywood, the schedule is right next year. 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:10.000 Okay, perfect, I'll take that one out. 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:18.000 Ellen Locust, this is, we're trying to get this on council either the 22nd or 1st meeting, 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:26.000 where the last piece is the resolution, but we want to get it on consent to get the turn back MOU assigned 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.000 and going to council so that PICSTAC can move forward. 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.000 Is this where I can editorialize a little bit? 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.000 Yes. 00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:40.000 The MOU is a document that has been used a lot over the years 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:46.000 and it does give legal counsel some grief occasionally because it starts out saying 00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.000 that this is a non-binding agreement, right? 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:58.000 But then later it says it anticipates there will be binding agreements as we get through the process. 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:04.000 This is a if you will, then we will, if then MOU. 01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:08.000 But I think what, I'm not going to speak for anybody other than myself, 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:14.000 I think if you do the resolution, you're pretty much bound to what's in the MOU at that point 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.000 and the other side isn't. 01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:19.000 So I'm just throwing that out there. 01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:26.000 I don't know if I'm talking out of turn, but it's my recommendation that you just execute the MOUs, 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:31.000 give the city manager the authority to sign it and don't do the resolutions 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:38.000 because it requires PICSTAC to do significant things prior to you doing your thing. 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:43.000 If you take that resolution and execute it, I've seen it where in Crowley, 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:50.000 they passed resolutions saying if then we'll do what you want 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.000 and the commission took it as you said you wanted it, you got it, 01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:59.000 and we had to go fight back that it was still on system for them to do the work they were going to do. 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:06.000 Would it be possible for the resolution to mirror the kind of conditionality of the MOU? 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:15.000 Yeah, I haven't seen the resolution, but if you're going to do a resolution because it says what the council is going to do, 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:20.000 make sure that it's conditional as much as possible. 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.000 And I'm saying that's probably about the suspenders, 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:33.000 but all the state wanted is somebody on city staff saying if we do these things, then we will do these things. 01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:40.000 So I don't want to cause any trouble any more than I normally would. 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:50.000 Would it be possible then to have our consultant look over that before? 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.000 And then this forest ridge, we already had a speed survey back in April, 01:01:54.000 --> 01:02:01.000 and I think the speeds were not super high as was expected because the condition is not great at the pavement, 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:06.000 but we do have the data, and then we will do an after study. 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:10.000 Do you want to keep it just to have the after study, speed study done? 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.000 If you'll indulge me, if you can kind of remind me the context, 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:19.000 I remember we had a lot of discussion about the median or not having the median, 01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:25.000 and I don't remember the significance of why we said no member. 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:31.000 It was to kind of address the concerns that would otherwise have been-- 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:36.000 So November was the construction schedule for that particular piece, 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:40.000 so we wanted to have a before study of whatever we're doing with the medians. 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:46.000 Right now we're keeping the medians, but the context was once the wider area, 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.000 the 20-foot lane in the parking area is completely redone, 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:55.000 what are the implications of having those put in and the new paper? 01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.000 Is it going to be higher speed? 01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:00.000 And once we determine that the speeds have gone up, 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:03.000 then we may come back and look at traffic calming on that section. 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.000 So that was the whole notion. 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:10.000 But the discussion that we had wasn't that after April, 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.000 in other words, there was a reason to want to do it to-- 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:18.000 if we already had it, because it was in April, we wouldn't have had a reason to say this. 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.000 There's some logic to it. 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.000 The survey that was conducted in April was an answer to the first question that you had. 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.000 So you had a request that, "Hey, do we have a before study done? 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.000 Can we get that study done before the construction hits the ground?" 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:33.000 And we already had a before study done back in April. 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:37.000 So that was an answer, saying we already had the before numbers, 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.000 now we need the after numbers once the construction is complete. 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:50.000 When was the discussion, if you wouldn't remind me? 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.000 This was back in July. 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:59.000 So at that time, you must have agreed it's not totally stupid to put it on the list, 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.000 even though we already had the April study. 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.000 I did not know at the time when the request was made. 01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.000 This is new information. 01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:12.000 We found that we've already collected the information that you had asked for. 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.000 There's no need to do it again. 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.000 And that was the answer that was put in. 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.000 Sorry, it's confusing. 01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.000 >> No, no, that makes more sense now. 01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.000 >> We can keep it. 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:25.000 >> No, it's already answered. 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:28.000 We have a speed survey done before November. 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.000 I'd be interested to know what it said. 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.000 But the most important thing is you have a before and an after. 01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:40.000 >> We have the before study already completed. 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.000 And then mobility plan, once the mobility plan is in place 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000 and we have an idea of the CNP, 01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:51.000 we'll talk about how we're laying projects out and construction fatigue. 01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:57.000 The main request was the construction fatigue. 01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:01.000 How do we move forward with the mobility plan project? 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:05.000 >> Yeah, kind of how do we time and face things so it addresses that? 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:06.000 >> I'll leave this on. 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.000 >> Do you want to take it off? 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:08.000 >> No, I'll leave this on. 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.000 >> Okay. 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:13.000 Do you want to talk about other items to add at this point? 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.000 >> Yes, we can add that. 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:18.000 >> Who's ready? 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.000 >> I have a few. 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:22.000 >> Go ahead. 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.000 >> Okay. 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:30.000 I would like to have an update on the small system projects that are left. 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.000 I know that there were some approved, 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:37.000 but there doesn't look like there's been any action on some intersections. 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.000 So, you know, what's the holdup? 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.000 Where are we? 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000 And if you don't want to do a presentation, 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.000 you can update it in an email to us or a report. 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.000 It doesn't have to be a hold. 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:50.000 It's up to you guys. 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.000 It's how you want to get that information to us. 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.000 And speaking of speed studies, 01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:01.000 there was a speed study done on King's Row, Nottingham, and Windsor several months back, 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.000 and I'm just wondering if we could get those results. 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.000 >> Okay. 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:11.000 King's Row, Nottingham. 01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:14.000 And what's the last one? 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:18.000 >> I wanted to bring up the bike share. 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:22.000 I've seen some bikes back out into the right of way. 01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:23.000 >> Oh, okay. 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.000 >> And I messaged Mark, 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:32.000 and he said that there was just so many more people using them from students and stuff, 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:37.000 and that they changed -- there's not a person who was doing it. 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.000 Resetting them and moving them is different. 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:44.000 So I just wanted to -- I'm not asking for anything. 01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:51.000 I just kind of want to make sure that it's getting back to normal again after -- 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.000 because the pilot was perfect. 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.000 I didn't see any issues. 01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:58.000 And I'm really glad that people are using the bikes. 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:10.000 I just want to make sure that they're getting it back in the right spot. 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:11.000 That's all. 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.000 >> John? 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:21.000 >> I've got one, I'm not sure how to convey this. 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:26.000 But when we're doing construction on roads where we're closing off, 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:31.000 and I'll use the example that I went through yesterday on Shady Oaks, 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.000 there are resurvacings of the left and the straight lanes. 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.000 The left turn lanes are closed off. 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:42.000 So our sensors are not picking up that anybody wants to make a left-hand turn. 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:49.000 So as you were trying to go towards Teasley on Shady Oaks, 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:54.000 everybody was in basically the right turn lane having to go right, straight, or left, 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:57.000 and you'd get three or four cars through there per light cycle. 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:03.000 I was backed up beyond the curve because it's never getting a left-turn arrow 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.000 to let the people making a left get through there. 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.000 So that one person that wants to make a left stops in one car. 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:12.000 So when we're doing this construction, 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:18.000 can we come up with a game plan that the sensors can be taken offline, 01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.000 that it just becomes a time cycle as opposed to using the sensor? 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:37.000 >> Yes. 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:38.000 >> Go ahead. 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:42.000 >> I've got an answer to the councilwoman's question on 380 Denbigh. 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.000 >> You know, the change of mutual terms is just council member. 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:47.000 I hear people struggle with this every meeting. 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.000 >> I'm not very politically correct. 01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:54.000 >> Apparently they are just replacing the curve on the median. 01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:59.000 You've been saying it exactly right there. 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:00.000 >> Thank you. 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:04.000 >> And we'll meet them on Thursday to make sure they never let us know things like that. 01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:19.000 >> Yeah, and there's also a dead tree in there if they want to go ahead and replace that one. 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:27.000 >> I hear persistently from one constituent that the sidewalk connectivity 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:35.000 between Unbell, between University and McKinney is very spotty from an ADA point of view, 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:40.000 that like if you wanted to roll outside a wheelchair through there, you'd be very challenged. 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:45.000 I appreciate if you would just take a look and see if you think there's a pressing issue there. 01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.000 And secondly, I have a question. 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.000 Stuart Birdside is going to ask you this at some point today. 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:53.000 Probably anyway, but he might as well ask him while we're here. 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:58.000 In the construction report, you note that the corner of Elm and Oak is to be closed for two months. 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:01.000 Is that the whole thing or just like one lane? 01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.000 Traffic could be able to get through or not? 01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:04.000 >> We're working on that one. 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:08.000 I'll get you an answer today so I don't be circulating back to Stuart. 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:09.000 >> Yeah, okay. 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.000 Just letting you know it's coming. 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:12.000 >> Sure. 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:13.000 >> That's all I've got. 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:18.000 >> And on the street closure report, Forest Ridge, 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.000 it showed that the south part is going to open up on the 11th. 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.000 Is that still the truth or is it open now? 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.000 >> They are still working on it, I think. 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.000 >> It looked like they had the last two-inch layer to layer down. 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.000 >> They're not finishing that completely. 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:35.000 I can get you a fixed date. 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:42.000 >> It's a little confusing since we've closed down the northbound while the southbound is still under construction. 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:49.000 The signage, I know we've only got so many lighted signs, but they got pulled up to Hobson. 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:59.000 So there's no signage up there letting people know that the southbound is going to open up if it's open or closed. 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:16.000 >> John, thanks. 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.000 We've already adjourned, apparently. 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:23.000 So anything else from a staff report point of view? 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:24.000 Okay, then I'm going to. 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.000 >> One last thing. 01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:34.000 I just want to mention that there is a work session item on Hinkle parking related. 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:35.000 >> Yes. 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.000 >> That will be coming for it next week. 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.000 >> I guess today. 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:40.000 >> Oh, today. 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:41.000 I'm sorry. 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.000 >> Yeah. 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.000 >> Moving today. 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:48.000 Anything you want to tell us about it in advance or just leave us in suspense? 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:49.000 >> There is no suspense. 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.000 >> I'm just trying to ramp up the suspense. 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:52.000 >> Yeah, okay. 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.000 >> It's riveting. 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.000 >> It is riveting. 01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:03.000 Okay, seeing that there are no further items, I'll adjourn the meeting at 1013.