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 Good morning. I'm going to, seeing that we have a quorum, I'm going to call this meeting of the Mobility Committee of the City of Denton to order at 9.02.

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 Let's jump right in and take on item A, consider approval of the minutes of the meeting held September 10th.

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 I recommend approval.

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 I'll second. All in favor?

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 Aye. All opposed?

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 All right, we're good.

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 That's not John either.

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 It is John.

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 Well, it is, right?

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 Are we okay with the sequence as presented in the agenda?

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 Okay, that's what we're going to item B.

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 Very much looking forward to hearing from our Attorney-Champion Nicole Becker.

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 Becker, sorry, can't say her name. It's been too long.

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 It's been too long.

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 Receive a report and hold the discussion regarding updates to the Denton 9 Transportation Authority.

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 Yes, good morning.

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 So, I have received a list of a few items that the committee had wanted some updates on.

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 And so we do have a few updates there.

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 And then I would just like to talk about some of the things that we're doing in the City of Denton, just to keep the committee aware.

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 So, on the 17th of September...

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 Excuse me, sorry to interrupt you.

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 You don't need the mic.

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 Oh, this mic doesn't matter?

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 It doesn't matter anymore.

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 Oh, so we can just turn it to the side.

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 Just like that one.

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 Are we okay with the minutes?

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 Please, Karen.

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 So, on September 17th, Raymond Torres, our CEO, gave an update to the City Council about some of our bus stop pads, benches, and shelters.

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 And so I just want to provide an update.

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 DCT is currently working with our member cities to do an overall kind of an efficiency study to kind of look at all of our modes of transit,

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 how we are separating those modes of transit, how are staffing levels in accordance with those levels of transit.

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 And so as a part of that, we're going to be looking at our service delivery as a whole and looking to see what implementation schedule we should look at for modifying that service.

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 And as a part of that, we will include any change in stops, any sort of like bus benches or any shelters.

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 And so we should know more about that in the next handful of months because we're pretty deep into that, into the start of that efficiency study right now.

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 So I know that there has been some hesitation to go out there and put any permanent fixtures in place if the plan is in a handful of months to make alterations to some of those schedules.

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 If there are particular locations that you're interested in, please let me know because I can forward those on and work with our operations team and our planning and development team to see if we have any stock for like benches, shelters,

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 what the infrastructure is at those particular locations and see what we can kind of do in the interim.

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 So more to come on that. I will continue to update the committee on those items.

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 The second item that was requested of an update was the Colorado breaker pedestrian and trail crossing.

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 And so I did want to provide an update on that. So DCTA is working with the city.

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 We've kind of taken individual roles to make the whole thing happen.

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 So the city is going to install the pedestrian crossing lights and the striping and then the city, then DCTA is going to handle all of the concrete work.

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 And so I do know that the city is placed in order for equipment. And right now we're slated to begin work at the end of the month.

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 So that's accurate.

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 And then the third item was the Bonnie raise service route changes due to the construction completion schedule.

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 And so Troy and really with our operations department is here.

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 He's actually going to go out today and check out that area and then we'll provide Mario with an update via email.

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 And if you can distribute that to the committee.

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 So if there are no questions on those three items, I'd like to give the committee just an update on some of the things that we're doing in the city of Denton.

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 Just on the bus stops and the shelters, because I've seen shelters that are at bus stops that are closed.

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 OK, so is it possible to review some of those if those stops aren't going to open? So that way, I mean, is that included in the efficiency study?

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 Yes. OK. Yes. But let me let me find out because we can look at our inventory and see where those are.

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 I can get you a specific update on what the plan is for those individual stops that are closed.

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 They're just empty, wasting. Yeah, let me find out because I know a lot of times when we look at installing benches and shelters,

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 there's some ADA infrastructure that has to be in place in order to not only put them in, but to make them accessible.

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 And so sometimes there's a little bit of hold up with that.

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 But let me find out about the ones that are no longer in use because we may have a plan for them.

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 And I'm just not aware of it. I've only been back for three weeks. This is the start of my fourth week.

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 But let me check them out and I will include that in the update tomorrow if you can distribute that to the committee. Sure.

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 So everybody knows the state. Yes, sir. So I'll just share a comment that I said when Mr. Suarez came in as well.

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 I hope that as you're looking at the efficiency of the system, you also still are aiming for increasing ridership

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 and understanding the barriers and Mr. Suarez did talk about how some of the new kinds of service have resulted in increases in ridership.

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 Yes. That's sort of the intentional goal. Absolutely.

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 Looking at the on demand, the first last mile connections is a primary component of that efficiency study.

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 And finding out where does it really make sense that you have a fixed route schedule versus on demand?

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 And where can we increase ridership in looking at those on demand services?

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 One of those areas that we're looking at currently, we have a zone called the Denton Airport Zone, Dent Enterprise Airport Zone.

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 And right now, ridership is not as high as what we would like to see.

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 And so we're looking at ways that we can modify that in the next few coming months to kind of increase that zone

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 or modify that zone to include Razor Ranch to potentially increase ridership there.

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 So we have a lot more flexibility when it comes to our zones as far as moving them and not doing them in conjunction with a major service change.

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 And so that's one of the areas that we're looking at just in the interim while we're doing the efficiency study.

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 So hopefully we'll see some increase there once we have a final recommended plan.

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 I mean, I would say they're subjective. I mean, I think it depends who you talk to.

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 I mean, sometimes it's going to be fixed routes. Sometimes it's going to be the cost of the ride.

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 Sometimes it's going to be gas prices, the fact that we're in Texas and everybody likes their large vehicle

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 versus, you know, using transit as kind of like in an eight, you know, cents, you know, places like New York.

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 And obviously people are going to use transit much more frequently than they would ever think about using a car.

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 So I don't think you can drill it down to one specific reason why there is a decrease in ridership.

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 I think it's probably there. It's a collective reason.

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 I would say, to be completely honest, we struggle without internally being able to answer that one question.

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 My suggestion would be to identify target profiles of customers that you would think would be gainable.

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 If I were in your shoes, I'd probably start with some focus groups.

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 That will be hard. Yes. Part of the efficiency study will be focus groups with our stakeholders and also with passengers.

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 You're a marketer.

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 That way it will.

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 And you had more you wanted to share with us.

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 So everyone knows that it's State Fair of Texas time.

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 We've got a big weekend coming up, Texas OU weekend.

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 DCTA is offering a bundle deal.

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 We've actually sold over 300 of these bundles thus far just in the last few weeks.

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 It's $16.50 and you get a local DCTA pass, a local DART pass, and a State Fair of Texas ticket.

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 So that's about a $28 value that you're getting for $16.50.

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 And so we just like to let people know.

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 You can buy them at the DDTC, but it's a really great bundle.

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 We just had to purchase more tickets because it's been so successful.

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 So if you guys know of anybody or if you and your families are going to the State Fair,

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 Also, Veterans Day on November 11th, we are doing our annual Veterans Day free ride promo.

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 So you can ride any of our Connect bus services, the A-Train, or any of our Zone services free

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 So we are offering that promotion.

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 And then moving into December, I can't believe we're talking about December,

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 but we're also working on the holiday lighting in Wasselfest

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 and the Holiday Express with the Denton County Friends of the Family.

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 So be looking for those two events and DCTA's involvement.

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 We do a lot of free ride promos where you just use a code word, so we're really excited about that.

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 You talk about focus groups.

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 but we have them coming up in November.

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 So the one in Lewisville is November 6th and the one in Denton is November 7th,

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 and they're held in the morning.

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 And it's just an opportunity for nonprofits.

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 We bring in the libraries, rec centers, anybody can attend.

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 It's just a roundtable forum for us to talk about how transit services

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 are positively impacting those who are sitting around the table

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 or if there's a need and maybe that transit isn't addressing those needs.

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 So we really try to have an open discussion and walk away with an action item list

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 of things that we can go back, talk about it, and provide updates to the group.

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 So please know that those are available and anybody is welcome to attend.

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 Because we'll include that in council packet.

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 I know that DRC picks that up and can help promote that.

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 And then just lastly, on October 14th, we are doing a public meeting

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 to promote our program of projects, which talks about our grant funding

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 and how we plan to use that grant funding.

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 And so we just like to let everybody know that that's available.

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 The presentation is online.

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 And if you have any questions about that, you can ask us.

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 You can provide feedback online.

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 But we do present that in the fall every year.

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 And so that's coming up.

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 and they're stuck at the train mills?

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 So we have not modified our train schedule.

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 So DART has increased their schedule.

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 Typically in the past, and I can confirm with Troy,

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 I don't know if you haven't heard of any issues.

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 There's staff there available.

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 But if there is a need to get somebody back up north that we can get them north.

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 Currently we are addressing the passengers,

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 But it's pretty few and far between that we've had any issues.

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 Item C. Receive a report and hold a discussion about a city of Denton mobility plan.

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 Work completed and future task items.

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 Pamela Mitchell, traffic engineer at the city.

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 And today I have a very general, quick update,

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 But that would be very technical and we will be updated with all that we've been working on.

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 The first one we had our second technical stakeholder meeting on September 12th,

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 and that was very productive.

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 We received a lot of good feedback on the draft maps of their bike

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 They had a lot of good feedback on sidewalks, how to get around the city.

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 As far as sidewalk prioritization, they recommended we were focusing on schools.

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 They're part of the Stakeholder Technical Committee.

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 But we felt that we needed to have a separate meeting with them to really get a feel for all the development that's coming in,

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 what has already planned for the Broadway network, and making sure it all ties in.

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 And there aren't any huge issues once this draft is presented to Council.

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 And then recently we had a bicycle focus group meeting on September 25th.

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 And they had a lot of good feedback.

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 And as a result, the bike plan was updated because of that meeting.

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 Any question on those meetings?

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 Would you mind sharing maybe a headline or two preliminarily on the persons with disabilities and the bike group,

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 just particular major points that were a-has?

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 So the persons with disabilities, they did bring up the DCTA stations at just the major destinations.

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 They mentioned preferring six-foot wire sidewalks, things like that.

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 Nothing really particular.

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 Of course, university is always a concern of theirs.

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 The bicycle meeting was not there particularly.

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 And I have the meeting with the team this afternoon.

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 So they'll probably go into depth of what they heard and their feedback.

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 But all of that will be presented at the work session with Council at the end of the month.

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 Thanks.

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 If we want, we can add a blurb to the Friday packet just to understand what it was.

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 Yeah.

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 A couple sentences of the meeting highlights.

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 Sure.

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 We'll do that.

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 I can do that.

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 So upcoming, we will be closing the citizen feedback survey, the interactive map this Friday

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 because we're wrapping up all the results, the maps, plans that we can present to Council at the end of the month,

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 early November.

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 Any feedback on what you're looking to see at the work session?

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 I can relate to the project team.

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 Any questions that you would like answered in the blurb?

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 Council Member Briggs?

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 I'm not necessarily in the blurb.

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 Just a suggestion or a request that you talk to the sustainability department

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 because we had a meeting yesterday about reducing carbon and becoming less dependent or more neutral.

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 And part of the suggestions were bicycle and also since DCT is here, I'd like to mention,

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 public transportation on that.

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 And so as we try to reach our goals in the same sustainability,

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 just having those partnerships with other departments and other organizations in the community

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 are going to be extremely important.

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 And as we update this plan, the amount of miles for bicycles and pedestrian added

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 can take that many more cars off the road.

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 So if there is a communication that can happen as you do this update with our sustainability,

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 that would be really great.

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 Okay.

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 I'll definitely reach out to them.

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 Thank you.

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 Any very specific targets in these areas that would be good if it's safe?

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 Well, one thing we can do also too is, you know, since this portal is closing later this week,

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 you know, certainly reach out to those departments to push it out to those folks that are volunteers

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 that just work through that process to help respond to the survey and just get more feedback from citizens.

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 Another option.

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 Also a good thing.

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 Council Member Briggs was referring to, it's very specific policy guidance that will come out of sustainability.

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 So we're coordinating.

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 Definitely.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 It's your time.

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 Bye.

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 Right.

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 Indeed.

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 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding text-on-line system projects in that area.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Thank you.

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 Okay.

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 So we'll get right to the good stuff.

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 We're working on about $2.5 billion worth of projects within the city of Denton.

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 Zachary signed the contract.

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 Actually, Berkshire Hathaway signed the contract on November 7th, earlier this week, and they

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 will be -- they're currently out of their mobile license, so they will be -- the good

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 news is they'll be back at work very shortly.

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 The kind of bad news is they've got all the time back, so it's like starting over.

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 So it's 500-something days.

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 October 7th or no?

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 What did I say?

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 You said November.

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 They signed the contract in October.

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 Zachary will be back on -- and I know it says fully executed, but Berkshire Hathaway signed

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 it on November -- I mean, October 4th, and then Zachary signs their contract with Berkshire

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 on the 7th and then mobilizes.

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 So it's a two-step process.

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 Okay.

329
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 Did I make that up pretty good?

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 I remember in part of our conversation, we were talking about all the work that had been

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 done and the materials that were laying on the side of the road.

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 Are they going to have to be redone and replaced?

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 Yes.

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 Well, the work that's already done that's in the ground, Berkshire Hathaway has to accept

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 and warranty.

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 The work that's -- the material that's still laying out that was for the city's utilities,

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 the city is not accepting that material, and as long as they don't change, if we're thinking

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 about changing their specs, it's up to -- and that was part of the deal with Berkshire,

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 they have to replace the material.

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 So that's part of this redo.

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 So that's good.

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 Yes.

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 So a forward drive project, and as you know, the main critical item on this project is

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 the road crossing and the shoe flag, and they're laying down the track even as we speak.

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 The traffic will switch this Thursday to the new concrete pavement south of the railroad.

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 So they'll be split.

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 They'll take the southbound traffic and move them onto the new temporary pavement, and

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 then they'll be working in the middle, similar to what they've been doing north of the railroad

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 track.

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 And we think that this contract is probably going to get delayed because we had some delays

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 early on in the project, but we don't know exactly, but we know that it will probably

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 be not November of 2020.

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 It may slip a couple of months, but we still have time to try to catch that up.

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 Do we know just south of Daniels on this project, there's like a 100-foot strip that they didn't

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 put the temporary pavement on?

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 Do we know who's held up that is?

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 I don't.

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 I can check on that.

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 I mean, because they've got the temporary pavement all the way down to Country Club,

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 except for this 100-foot strip right by the trailer park that, as far as switching sides,

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 I'm just wondering, who's at fault for that, or what is the reason for that not having

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 been?

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 Okay.

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 I can check on that.

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 I don't know.

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 I can find out Thursday.

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 Oh, that's right.

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 Thursday.

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 Yeah.

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 All right.

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 You may know 35E job.

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 This was November of 2020.

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 We're now moving into May of '21 because of the additional parcels we have to acquire

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 in this section of the project up to the 288 project, so it gives us a little bit of time

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 between when the OHL job gets done and this one starts, so we'll get them used to having

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 a nice road, and then we'll tear it all apart again.

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 OHL will be done by then?

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 I think so, because did you drive it today?

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 Because they've switched the traffic.

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 I was fixing to tell you that.

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 Traffic has been switched.

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 You now can drive on the southbound main lanes in the southbound side.

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 They've got the center still blocked out because they're going to put the concrete center barrier

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 up, and then re-strap it.

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 The northbound on-ramp from 288 is physically there.

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 They've got to do some strapping as well on that, and the southbound ramp is almost all

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 there, permanent for the mega-lex.

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 So within days, maybe 10 or so, we should start to see traffic get relieved around the

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 288 because of the work that they're doing to switch the traffic, because they couldn't

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 do the ramps until they moved the traffic to the southbound.

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 Now the ramps are physically there.

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 They've got to come in and do some strapping, which when they do the strapping, they'll

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 also fix the strapping at Dallas Drive to make it one lane, and we are working with

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 city staff on a permanent solution to that Dallas Drive intersection so we don't have

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 to go through Cowboys parking lot to get around.

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 So we're going to look at a permanent infrastructure improvement there next.

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 I had a question about that, because the breaker looks like it's ready to open, but we're

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 told that it will not until the light comes in, the signal.

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 And so if we can have an update on where that is.

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 I think we've ordered the equipment to be in place, and then we're working on the agreement

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 with Textile, so we have kind of a verbal agreement that, yes, we're going to move forward

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 as quickly as possible while we go through the process of getting it on council and signing

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 up, but our goal is to get that intersection going in the next 30 days, which is what we

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 promised traffic safety yesterday.

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 So Textile's lending the city the temporary poles.

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 The city's still got to order them.

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 There's a six or seven week lag in delivery.

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 Once they get them, they'll just give those poles back to Textile.

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 So we're trying to do everything we can, because we know it's like a Christmas tree, right?

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 Right before Christmas, where all the presents are under it, because it's perfectly usable.

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 It's striped.

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 It's ready to go.

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 But it's just we can't open it without a signal, and people are -- we've asked -- you'll

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 hear again, I think, on Thursday.

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 We've asked -- didn't find us to actively patrol it, because people are -- they're just taking

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 it, and it's too tempting.

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 So we're really moving on that, doing every trick we can to get this thing done as quickly

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 as possible.

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 OHL would not accept the work.

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 We tried in vain, probably in my mind too long.

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 We tried to get them to do it, but once we realized they wouldn't, we quickly switched.

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 The city stepped up, said, "We can take care of it.

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 We need some help."

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 Textile says, "We can help."

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 And so we're still about a month behind schedule.

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 So for clarification, the temporary poles will be up within a month, and then the --

427
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 The whole signal should be up.

428
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 Oh, okay.

429
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 Now let us clarify the clarification.

430
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 Okay.

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 The temporary signals are for the current job with OHL's doing.

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 When Mayhill comes in and does the frontage road from Mayhill to 288, they'll put the

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 big, masked, big arm signals, the permanent signals up at Brinker.

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 So these are temporary.

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 These would be strand pole wire signals in the interim to keep the -- get the intersection

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 operational.

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 But then when the Mayhill job comes in, they'll take those out and put the permanents in.

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 But the temporary ones, we're looking at at that point.

439
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 Yes.

440
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 Thank you.

441
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 So by the time we get back to this next meeting, you can all pretend personally responsible

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 if it's not happening.

443
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 Okay.

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 On the exit ramps in this area, I haven't driven them.

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 They were paving it the last time I drove it.

446
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 Right.

447
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 Did they do it where it is a separate lane for the off-ramp, or is it --

448
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 No, it merges.

449
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 It's the yield-type situation for the service room.

450
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 That's the --

451
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 What are they doing?

452
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 That's the new paradigm.

453
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 That's the old paradigm, isn't it?

454
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 Well, it's the old paradigm that came back.

455
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 Is it like avocado?

456
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 The theory is, ultimately -- the color.

457
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 Yeah, okay.

458
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 Our parents were in the building business.

459
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 That's why I told you.

460
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 Power is gold.

461
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 Where was I?

462
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 The old paradigm.

463
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 Oh, paradigm.

464
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 Okay.

465
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 So, remember when we were in the building business?

466
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 Yeah.

467
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 That's the old paradigm.

468
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 The old paradigm.

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 So, remember, we're going, ultimately, to what they call three-two frontage roads.

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 Right?

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 So, the frontage roads will have two lanes of traffic between the intersection and the

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 exit ramp, three lanes of traffic between the exit ramp and the entrance ramp, and then

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 back to two.

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 So, ultimately, you'll have that third lane is supposed to be just the auxiliary for the

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 transition and merge traffic for on and off the freeways.

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 But right now, we're at a two-lane frontage road system, so we're training them poorly,

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00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:56,000
 I'll have to admit, it frustrates me, that that's what it's going to be in the future.

478
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:02,000
 If they haven't striped it yet, is it possible to get them to narrow it down to one lane

479
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000
 for free traffic?

480
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000
 I just know that those yield signs don't work.

481
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
 Don't work.

482
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000
 I want to carry one in my truck and beat people to death when they don't yield.

483
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
 But my wife told me that's not proper etiquette.

484
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000
 Northbound at Fort Worth Drive, up at 35, is perfect.

485
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000
 Narrow it down to one lane, you got one lane for the people coming off 35, one lane for

486
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
 the people coming off 35.

487
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
 Right.

488
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:36,000
 We came in when they had Dallas Strip closed, and the exit ramp closed there, having them

489
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,000
 hit Teasley and come around, we had them actually pull that striping so that we could get more

490
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
 than one lane of frontage to the signal.

491
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,000
 So, I would say on Thursday, we need to talk about that.

492
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,000
 I think it's a pretty tough road to hoe right now, with their paradigm, because they're

493
00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:02,000
 going to that everywhere, the yield, as opposed to pushing them over.

494
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,000
 So, I think that's a district-wide issue that we're going to fight.

495
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,000
 But we can bring it up.

496
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:19,000
 Alright, so your 35E, 35W Merge project, again, this project is fully funded.

497
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,000
 We are working, the critical path item right now is not just the right-of-way and utilities,

498
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:32,000
 but it's also the bridge structures, and so we've got our bridge layouts, and we anticipate

499
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,000
 getting them to the division in January.

500
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,000
 So, we're still looking for a January 2023 let date, and there's a lot of coordination

501
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:48,000
 with this part, and then a little part to the north, to 77, on the next job, with city

502
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:55,000
 utilities, and we're meeting regularly with your staff on that.

503
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000
 This is that little piece I was talking about.

504
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,000
 It doesn't look little on this page, up to here, but when you look at this project, it's

505
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
 just a small portion here.

506
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
 So, we're going to do the wishbone, and the green for sure is one project.

507
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
 We may end up doing more of this, this one project.

508
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
 That's why they're close on their let dates.

509
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:24,000
 But this project, we got it environmentally cleared.

510
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,000
 Last week, I was sitting talking to TechStop at STAC, and I was lamenting that we can't

511
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,000
 get the TechZone MPO to act, and they said they'd get an interim out-of-cycle improvement,

512
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
 and we're clear.

513
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,000
 So, we will give you the specific date on that.

514
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000
 So, what happens is we have to send these reports to get into your system about 10 days

515
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000
 prior to why it's showing up.

516
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000
 So, a lot of things happen between when I submit it.

517
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
 So, it's not that I'm an idiot.

518
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,000
 These are just things that change between when I submit it and when I get here.

519
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,000
 But this has been environmentally cleared now, and we'll update that report and get

520
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000
 that to you.

521
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000
 So, we're ready to go on this project, everything.

522
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,000
 The rideways are being acquired, and the designs are being done, and we're shooting for that

523
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000
 22-let date.

524
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:21,000
 Okay, so your main lane project, this project, we were operational, and then we got the traffic,

525
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:29,000
 started looking at the traffic, and the traffic was not right, and so we had to go back to

526
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000
 division, and so we're still working with TechStop.

527
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
 That's what all that means.

528
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,000
 TechStop is coordinating to be determined and update project schedules because we can't

529
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,000
 validate any of our assumptions without the traffic, and we're having a difficult time

530
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000
 getting the right traffic out of Austin.

531
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:56,000
 So, we're still looking at next year, having this project environmentally cleared, and

532
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,000
 assuming we can get the traffic resolved soon.

533
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000
 This is the main lanes, just the main lanes.

534
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,000
 This project is the frontage roads, and the frontage roads within Texas Motor Speedway

535
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000
 South are already there.

536
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
 That's why it just starts there and goes north.

537
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:22,000
 Jacobs is working on this project, and we are looking for spring of next year for environmental

538
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000
 clearance.

539
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:31,000
 We're already identifying the parcels and the number of tracks that are going to be

540
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000
 required, and we're shooting for a left date of 2023.

541
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000
 The reason it says 2025 is because there's no money associated with this project yet,

542
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,000
 but as we get it environmentally cleared in the March 2020 timeframe, I think we were

543
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:52,000
 talking to staff the other day about we can pick the sections of -- we don't have to do

544
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,000
 all 295 million.

545
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,000
 We just have to pick sections that we want, similar to what we did in the South, where

546
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,000
 we did the southbound frontage road to the northbound between the Eagle and 114th.

547
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,000
 So, we can pick sections once it's cleared and focus on that.

548
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,000
 And so, once it's cleared, we'll come back in spring next year, get with the city, say

549
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,000
 what's your druthers, and you tell us what you want to do, and that's what we'll focus

550
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
 on.

551
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
 That's -- is this widening into 6 lines?

552
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
 This is the frontage roads.

553
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000
 Okay.

554
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:28,000
 So, what we're doing is we broke it into two pieces, and the reason we're doing that is

555
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,000
 the main lanes that they're allowing us to do right now in the mobility plan is a rural

556
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
 highway, 6 lanes.

557
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,000
 So, it was going to be what they call a 3223, which is what's coming out of Tarrant County,

558
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:47,000
 3 general purpose, 2 managed northbound, 2 managed southbound, and 3 general purpose.

559
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,000
 We had to change that in the mobility plan because the commission said they weren't going

560
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
 to accept any more managed lanes.

561
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,000
 So, all we're doing is changing it from an urban 3223 to a rural 6, and the footprint

562
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,000
 for a rural 6 is the same as an urban 3223.

563
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,000
 Building the frontage roads, leaving the center wide open so that when they change their mind,

564
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,000
 they will have the footprint for handling.

565
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
 Have them drive through there after 3 o'clock any day of the week.

566
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000
 Right.

567
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
 So, that's why we're doing it split.

568
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
 There's some method to our madness.

569
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
 The frontage roads are always going to be where the frontage roads are going to be, and

570
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
 the frontage roads are what drive development.

571
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,000
 So, it's the things we want first anyway.

572
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,000
 Okay.

573
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,000
 So, I think I told you last month that this project has always been two sections.

574
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:49,000
 The blue section was led out to private firms to do the design, and they did the design

575
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
 in-house in the green.

576
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
 It's both fully funded.

577
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,000
 They want to let this project sooner than 2021, sometime in 2020, which means October

578
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000
 19 through September 20.

579
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,000
 So, we're meeting with city staff coordinating on that because, A, it's good news that they're

580
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
 going to do the dent section first.

581
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,000
 The bad news is we've got to make sure we're out of the way.

582
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,000
 So, this project will go first, and once we know that, we'll break these projects into

583
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,000
 two, and they'll have their own schedule.

584
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000
 Loop 288.

585
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,000
 288 is having the same problem along the traffic as 35W.

586
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,000
 We're working through it, and we're still hoping to get this project cleared September

587
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:44,000
 next year, but we're a little bit further along on 288 than we are on 35W, so I think

588
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:50,000
 that's eminently doable if we can get the traffic resolved in the next month or so.

589
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:56,000
 So, the reason traffic matters is this is a controlled access facility like 35W, and

590
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000
 you can't put the ramps just anywhere you want.

591
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,000
 You have to put them based on where the traffic warrants, and so we know where they need to

592
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,000
 be, but we can't prove that they were warranted without the proper traffic, and the traffic

593
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:17,000
 we're getting was, it didn't have the right nodes connected to it, so it was underestimating

594
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,000
 and saying things weren't warranted, and we know they are based on what COGS demographics

595
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:30,000
 shows, so we're having this modeling battle between the region and the division.

596
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,000
 On this one, because I know that we've had, there were some issues with gas wells and

597
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,000
 things such as that, is there a requirement for TxDOT to build the road?

598
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,000
 Does it have to be a certain distance away from the gas well, or can it be as close as?

599
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000
 It can be fairly close or adjacent to the right of way, it cannot be in the right of

600
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:55,000
 way, and so that's, a lot of the times you see us move because of gas wells is because

601
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,000
 we were in the right of way.

602
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000
 And if you look, the reason why this has got such a long life cycle timeline on it, is

603
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000
 if you were to go to, and I encourage you to do this, it's interesting, go to Ditton

604
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:14,000
 County's landmark, go to their GIS, and go to the landmark, that's that map, and top

605
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,000
 in, go into this area and hit gas wells and transmission lines.

606
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000
 Check mark that.

607
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:27,000
 And this whole section of the county, 35 W, 35 West, will turn almost black with the

608
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000
 number of wells and transmission lines.

609
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000
 We've threaded the needle on the wells.

610
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000
 The hard part is going to be that underneath those little wells is a spiderweb of transmission

611
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:46,000
 lines that we're going to have to deal with, and they're not a pure franchise utility,

612
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:52,000
 and so they're dealt with differently, and they're not, the state doesn't have as much

613
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,000
 authority to move them around, push them around as they can on a utility, so you end up costing

614
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000
 a lot of money and they drag your feet.

615
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:10,000
 So, we try to avoid the gas wells themselves, but they can be fairly close, and if you look

616
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,000
 at Cleveland Gibbs and 35 W, there's a gas well right there at the corner, right up against

617
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
 that right over there.

618
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,000
 So they can be next door neighbors as long as you're not in the right of way.

619
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,000
 I don't know if that's good or bad.

620
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:34,000
 And then our favorite project for pre-10, 15-15, we are moving forward.

621
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:40,000
 We're still looking at December vinyl cleanse with the Wishbone project getting funded,

622
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
 which funds this leg of 35 W.

623
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:49,000
 We've got to do some more due diligence now to make sure that what we're doing with 15-15

624
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,000
 is consistent with what 35 W is planning on, so there's some coordination, and then you

625
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
 got Bonnie Bray coming right through the middle of it.

626
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,000
 So, there's three projects that we have to coordinate to make sure they're during how

627
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
 to bridge to nowhere.

628
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,000
 1173, speaking of making sure there's not a bridge to nowhere, the 35 project that we

629
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:18,000
 have funded does include the realignment of 1173 to the Bartholomew Road, so we'll at

630
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000
 least have the intersection there for the time, you know, it's pretty close in the time

631
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,000
 frame, but this project is not funded, but the interchange at 35 will be included in

632
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,000
 the 35 project in the proper location.

633
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,000
 428, this is just a starter.

634
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
 TxDOT has not got anybody on board to do the limited access facility here.

635
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:47,000
 Pre-10 is working on the signal work and the justification for the warrant to submit to

636
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:53,000
 TxDOT, and we'll work with them whenever they get that done.

637
00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:02,000
 Bonnie Bray, Phase 7, this is for the extension to tie into 288.

638
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:10,000
 This is a project where we're tracking, but it's essentially our partnership with the

639
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
 Metropolitan Planning Organization.

640
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,000
 They're going to help us with the blue line in front of the school, and then Cog is going

641
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,000
 to work with TxDOT as a partner and probably ask the county for assistance on the green

642
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,000
 project, so we're just showing you this as a, that we're tying Bonnie Bray into 288,

643
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,000
 but it really shouldn't require any funding from the city.

644
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000
 What about the projected dates, sir?

645
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:45,000
 We haven't got anybody on board yet for Phase 7 at TxDOT yet, so the city has spent some

646
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000
 money to do a schematic, so we're not dead in the water.

647
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,000
 We have been working on it, so we're just going to get Cog and TxDOT to say yes.

648
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,000
 They'll bring on a consultant to finish it, and we'll get you a date, cycle it, and we're

649
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000
 going to try it.

650
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000
 All of this is another reason why we're meeting with your staff, because when you go back

651
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:15,000
 and look at 35, which I will, because this is the last project, you got January of 2023,

652
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000
 which is the critical one.

653
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,000
 The next one is a little earlier, because we've been working on it longer.

654
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:26,000
 You got January of 2023, where this project and probably that green part of the northern

655
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:32,000
 section will go under the knife, and Bonnie Bray, we're working on it in all of this corridor,

656
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,000
 and we're trying to get as much of this in place prior to that date, and the good news

657
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:45,000
 is that date probably will slip a little bit, because they always do, but your staff isn't

658
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,000
 counting on that.

659
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:55,000
 We're already meeting pretty regularly to figure out how to get that road on the ground.

660
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000
 That tie-in is that portion right up here, and TxDOT knows that this is coming, Cog knows

661
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000
 this is coming, and so they know that's a critical item with the schedule, so we're

662
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:11,000
 going to try to keep it to where it gets done as quickly as possible before this thing goes

663
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000
 under the knife.

664
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:18,000
 That's why I think they'd already be on board and kind of have dates, because that's the

665
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,000
 plan.

666
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:26,000
 Yes, but they only knew they got this funded by the commission in July, so now it's October,

667
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:33,000
 and now we're starting to unthread the sweater, unravel it, to see what all that implies,

668
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:40,000
 and this, Bonnie Bray, is one of the implications, and so we're just now getting to the consequences

669
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:46,000
 of our success, and that should be it for me.

670
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,000
 I have a few follow-up questions.

671
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000
 Uh-oh.

672
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:57,000
 You mentioned Dallas Drive a little bit, but you were talking about the connection.

673
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
 Is there a date for the on-ramp to open?

674
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000
 Is that in conjunction with Breakers still?

675
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,000
 No.

676
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:12,000
 The on-ramp is, they're striping part of the, the ramps are there right now because they

677
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:19,000
 drove through it today, and they're going to strike the on-ramp at 288 and the off-ramp

678
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:25,000
 for Mayhill, and under that part of that contract, they're going to restripe the Dallas Drive

679
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000
 to one lane, because right now it's two, and then you merge right at the signal.

680
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000
 They're going to reduce that back down to one lane, and that should be done sometime

681
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,000
 in October, is what we were told.

682
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
 So the striping?

683
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000
 No.

684
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,000
 No?

685
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,000
 Yeah, I'm talking about heading south.

686
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000
 Under the bridge.

687
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000
 Under the, coming down Dallas Drive.

688
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
 On to 35.

689
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,000
 Oh.

690
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,000
 Yeah, that won't open until the project's completely done.

691
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
 What, what do you mean completely?

692
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
 Okay.

693
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:59,000
 I'll tell you the current inaccurate date, uh, is December 2019.

694
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000
 Okay.

695
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000
 So it is in conjunction with, with the same.

696
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
 Yeah, that'll be the last thing that happens on this job.

697
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:12,000
 They will not open Dallas Drive until everything is perfect, because it's, it jams the traffic

698
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,000
 into a section that's already pretty bad.

699
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,000
 So you mean both, um, frontage roads and the light at Brinker and then Dallas Drive on-ramp.

700
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:29,000
 So the, yeah, so the, the frontage roads, ramps, on and off, and the striping of Dallas

701
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,000
 Drive should happen in the next 30 days.

702
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:39,000
 Uh, Dallas Drive being able to go southbound on to 35 won't open until essentially the

703
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,000
 LHL hands the keys back to textile.

704
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,000
 I just want to make sure it didn't have anything to do with mayhem, but it was just.

705
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,000
 No, it has to do with, uh, that it comes in on the left.

706
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000
 Okay.

707
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
 So, and, um, one more question.

708
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,000
 So there's barrels along 380, and people have asked me what they're for, and I'm saying

709
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,000
 it's median work.

710
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,000
 Is that what's going on?

711
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
 You had, like, uh, didn't buy one of that?

712
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000
 Oh, yeah, yeah, all the way in north.

713
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000
 I go to church, right?

714
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,000
 I'm an usher, and these guys like treating me like I'm their consultant.

715
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
 They want to know what that's going on.

716
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,000
 Call the city.

717
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,000
 Well, I mean, you know, there's no communication.

718
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,000
 I don't know what's going on.

719
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
 I want to find out as soon as I leave here.

720
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:25,000
 Well, I think what it is is I've noticed the edges of the medians have been broken out

721
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000
 and rewired.

722
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,000
 I think they're fixing the crushed medians, and that's what I've been saying.

723
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,000
 But I just wanted to clarify that that's all.

724
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,000
 If we don't know by today, we'll know by Thursday when we get cornered Tina and ask

725
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000
 her why she's doing stuff without letting us know.

726
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000
 But, uh, yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

727
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,000
 Okay.

728
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,000
 Okay, we'll go to church.

729
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,000
 Okay, thanks a lot.

730
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:00,000
 Let's move on to item E, staff reports.

731
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:10,000
 So I want to tell you, let me pull up the matrix to see if we can take some items out

732
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,000
 and clean it up so that we have more space.

733
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,000
 So we can fill it back in?

734
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,000
 Fill it back in.

735
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,000
 New stuff.

736
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:26,000
 There we go.

737
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
 Okay.

738
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:35,000
 So I know these first two or three or four are continuing, and do we want to continue

739
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,000
 keeping them on?

740
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:42,000
 Because I think this one-way two-way and then the rope diet, these will all be discussed

741
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000
 as part of the mobility plan.

742
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,000
 So we are getting updates on the mobility plan on a monthly basis.

743
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
 So do we want to keep them on the matrix?

744
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,000
 Because that's an agenda item that we can, if we can take them out, we'll always have

745
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000
 a mobility plan update.

746
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000
 Or do you want to keep them just to specifically focus on that, on those two items?

747
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,000
 Well, I was told that those two were going to be in a presentation coming to council

748
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,000
 soon, and so when that presentation comes to council, I think these can roll off.

749
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,000
 Okay.

750
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,000
 Perfect.

751
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,000
 And then DCTA, I think we talked to them about the bus shelters, but do you want to, DCTA

752
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,000
 shelters and benches, do you want to keep them or constantly keep them?

753
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
 I'm not 100% sure of our motivation here.

754
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:33,000
 The last I heard, you know, we're not paying by the vertical inch for, you know, screen

755
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,000
 space.

756
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:41,000
 I mean, you know, just to be strictly following the logic we heard, you're going to hear this.

757
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,000
 So, okay, then when we hear it, it'll be done.

758
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000
 Okay.

759
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,000
 No, because I think some of this has really old dates and it just looks as if there's

760
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,000
 nothing happening or you've not really heard about this item for a long time.

761
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,000
 I acknowledge that.

762
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000
 We just heard about it today.

763
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,000
 We heard that it's coming, you know, and I'm not unhappy about it.

764
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
 Now, I do have an issue with item four.

765
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,000
 I personally feel that the I should always be before the E and the word yield.

766
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,000
 That's my position.

767
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,000
 And that can come off because it's been looked at and nothing is.

768
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,000
 And it's probably more embarrassing than the date, right?

769
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
 It is.

770
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,000
 Item six, we're planning on taking that up because that has been completed.

771
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:35,000
 It was refreshed on the crosswalks.

772
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
 Can we go back up to five for a second?

773
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000
 Yes, sure.

774
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,000
 Because I believe that when we were talking about the mobility plan, this was an issue

775
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,000
 for the disability committee as well.

776
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000
 I think it's the same section.

777
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:55,000
 And so just to go back to this, is there any -- are we still talking to the --

778
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000
 Let me --

779
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,000
 -- develop the -- I guess the person who owns it and TxDOT and the city.

780
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,000
 The micro room.

781
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,000
 The micro room.

782
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,000
 Yes.

783
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,000
 It's in the light.

784
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,000
 I mean, it's really dangerous.

785
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
 If you're in a wheelchair, there's nothing to do.

786
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:23,000
 No, I'm not.

787
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,000
 So the real issue here is the right-of-way.

788
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000
 TxDOT has right-of-way.

789
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,000
 Let me get to the location right there.

790
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000
 So TxDOT has the right-of-way on 380.

791
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,000
 And right behind it is a private property.

792
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
 So there are two separate things here.

793
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,000
 And in order to have that access directly down here, you have to wrap it down here

794
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
 and then bring it into the parking lot.

795
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000
 But you can't really leave anything in the parking lot.

796
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000
 There is no sidewalk that extends or connects.

797
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,000
 And there is no ramp on the other end.

798
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,000
 So there is no crosswalk.

799
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:13,000
 So it's a bigger issue and a larger project that it looks as if it's not necessarily a quick little ramp and it's done.

800
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:23,000
 So we have talked to TxDOT about this, and currently they don't have any plans or funding or anything to move forward on.

801
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,000
 So I have a question.

802
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,000
 If you could go back to the one section where it goes in and it's a holding spot.

803
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,000
 So if you're in a wheelchair, there's nothing you can do, really.

804
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:42,000
 So if we just busted that curb away, and people could either -- I mean, why is that curb there?

805
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:48,000
 I mean, it would just make more sense if it was -- I mean, I don't know if that's allowed or not,

806
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,000
 but at least somebody could get off of that.

807
00:52:53,000 --> 00:53:00,000
 So this curb is specifically directed for folks when they -- it's a bus stop right here, right?

808
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
 I mean, when they get off.

809
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,000
 Is it a bus stop?

810
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,000
 I don't think it's a bus stop.

811
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:12,000
 Yeah, it's not -- it doesn't make any sense.

812
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:19,000
 I just -- what just -- if we could get creative and kind of think maybe out of the box, if possible,

813
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,000
 because I know that that's an issue, too, and I --

814
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,000
 I think it's because it's raised there, isn't it?

815
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,000
 Yeah, there's a -- if you look at it, this level is way higher than this.

816
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
 I would say a good six to eight inches.

817
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000
 It's raised, and it empties into a drive lane on the private side.

818
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:42,000
 So where we're struggling is where do you safely put somebody,

819
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,000
 because the alternative is to take it away completely.

820
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,000
 And that's where we're struggling with this issue.

821
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:53,000
 You don't want to take, especially somebody who is potentially visually impaired,

822
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,000
 and dump them into a drive lane on private property.

823
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,000
 So we could take the back of that curb down, and we could drop the ramp down.

824
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,000
 But until we designate and we don't have easement to do this,

825
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
 we'd have to work with the private property owner,

826
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:13,000
 you're putting them in an area where cars drive through that area and make the rights on the left.

827
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000
 And that's the concern as we start to try to figure out what do we do here.

828
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000
 We have no control of the private property.

829
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,000
 We can only make suggestion, and then we're taking some liability on it.

830
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,000
 So it's textile when we bust the back of the curb and empty it into access.

831
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,000
 But I think the other issue, though, that Council Member is mentioning is

832
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,000
 you may be dumping them into a parking lot, but you're also dumping them onto 380.

833
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
 I don't disagree with you.

834
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,000
 I don't disagree with you, and that's where the alternative is,

835
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:44,000
 is you take the crosswalk away and you take the landing away so that it makes sense that nobody,

836
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,000
 which is really the strictest definition of what the ADA actually says,

837
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000
 is if you're both, if you're able-bodied and you have a crossing,

838
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,000
 you need to make it accessible to a disabled body and vice versa.

839
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,000
 So that's where we're coming down with how do you get to the best possible solution here.

840
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000
 It involves a lot more than just us.

841
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,000
 It's the state.

842
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,000
 It's understanding the constraints of the accessibility issue altogether

843
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
 and the private sector because it belongs to somebody we have no control of their property over.

844
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
 So what does that sign right there on the poles?

845
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
 It says no walking. Where do you not walk?

846
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,000
 You don't cross the straitway.

847
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,000
 So that's a sign for folks between these two poles that don't cross here.

848
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:32,000
 If you want to cross, go on the other side and then cross that street there.

849
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,000
 That's what it says.

850
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000
 So it only has two crossings here.

851
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,000
 We'll keep working with them, but those are the options.

852
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000
 I mean, the reality is those are the options.

853
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,000
 We have to work with the private property owner, which can take time because there's no,

854
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,000
 there's not a compelling argument that makes them do something versus,

855
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,000
 do you leave the access point, which I agree makes no sense for the,

856
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,000
 especially for the disabled-body person to go anywhere.

857
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:09,000
 And one of the challenging parts of this is when 380 was built between Fulton,

858
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:15,000
 right about here, and Carroll, there was no sidewalk laid down on the north side at all.

859
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000
 So the sidewalk is missing.

860
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:23,000
 Everything on this side west, there's sidewalk on the north side if you can see.

861
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,000
 And on this side of Carroll, there's sidewalk on the north side.

862
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,000
 This is the only segment that does not have it.

863
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:34,000
 So it's a, if we're doing things right, I think we need to install the sidewalk,

864
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
 install the ranch, and make it appropriate.

865
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,000
 And it all takes that right of way.

866
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,000
 I understand that we're trying to have a solution,

867
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,000
 but this is the only place that there is a crossing in order to provide that ADA

868
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,000
 compliancy, we cannot put a crosswalk without having a ramp on the other side.

869
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:59,000
 And that's why, that's the reason why TechStock had that ramp in the first place.

870
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:04,000
 But it's a very challenging location, but a lot of people do cross here,

871
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,000
 so it's not something that we really want to take out as far as a crosswalk.

872
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:16,000
 No, it's a main connection, because you'd rather cross here than down at the Carroll bus lane.

873
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:21,000
 But you mentioned someone who is not able to see.

874
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,000
 I would not like to see what happens if they get to here, I mean, either.

875
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000
 So, anyway, I'd like to keep it on the matrix if that's okay.

876
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000
 We'll leave it there.

877
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:41,000
 Thank you.

878
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,000
 So the Malone ride turn versus bike lanes, I think Mark presented on this item

879
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:53,000
 and we discussed what we could do is probably have a ride up or a blurb on this,

880
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000
 just so that it covers it.

881
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,000
 I'll leave it for now, but then I'll, once we have it on the discussion,

882
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,000
 then we can talk about it later.

883
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,000
 This one, I'll ask, I have to remember why, if he wants to take that out,

884
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:17,000
 because PD has already enforced on Bernard Street.

885
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000
 Oh, sorry.

886
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,000
 Didn't mean to put you on the spot, but on this particular item for enforcement,

887
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
 I think PD had up the enforcement, can you take it up?

888
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,000
 And then the second item, if you want, I can have a blurb from PD.

889
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,000
 Actually, what are the rules?

890
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,000
 So that way you have an idea.

891
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,000
 Yeah, because the biggest complaint we get is we're trying to put in more bike lanes,

892
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,000
 is well, the bikers don't follow the rules anymore.

893
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,000
 So if we could say, well, the police have these policies in place

894
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,000
 and they are writing some tickets or they are doing something,

895
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,000
 it gives us something to fall back on.

896
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,000
 Yes, so I'll take number eight out, but then I'll leave this

897
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,000
 and give you a group that explains some of this.

898
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,000
 Rockwood and Mistywood, the schedule is right next year.

899
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000
 Okay, perfect, I'll take that one out.

900
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:18,000
 Ellen Locust, this is, we're trying to get this on council either the 22nd or 1st meeting,

901
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:26,000
 where the last piece is the resolution, but we want to get it on consent to get the turn back MOU assigned

902
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000
 and going to council so that PICSTAC can move forward.

903
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,000
 Is this where I can editorialize a little bit?

904
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,000
 Yes.

905
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:40,000
 The MOU is a document that has been used a lot over the years

906
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:46,000
 and it does give legal counsel some grief occasionally because it starts out saying

907
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,000
 that this is a non-binding agreement, right?

908
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:58,000
 But then later it says it anticipates there will be binding agreements as we get through the process.

909
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:04,000
 This is a if you will, then we will, if then MOU.

910
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,000
 But I think what, I'm not going to speak for anybody other than myself,

911
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:14,000
 I think if you do the resolution, you're pretty much bound to what's in the MOU at that point

912
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000
 and the other side isn't.

913
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000
 So I'm just throwing that out there.

914
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:26,000
 I don't know if I'm talking out of turn, but it's my recommendation that you just execute the MOUs,

915
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:31,000
 give the city manager the authority to sign it and don't do the resolutions

916
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:38,000
 because it requires PICSTAC to do significant things prior to you doing your thing.

917
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,000
 If you take that resolution and execute it, I've seen it where in Crowley,

918
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:50,000
 they passed resolutions saying if then we'll do what you want

919
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,000
 and the commission took it as you said you wanted it, you got it,

920
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,000
 and we had to go fight back that it was still on system for them to do the work they were going to do.

921
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:06,000
 Would it be possible for the resolution to mirror the kind of conditionality of the MOU?

922
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:15,000
 Yeah, I haven't seen the resolution, but if you're going to do a resolution because it says what the council is going to do,

923
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,000
 make sure that it's conditional as much as possible.

924
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,000
 And I'm saying that's probably about the suspenders,

925
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:33,000
 but all the state wanted is somebody on city staff saying if we do these things, then we will do these things.

926
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:40,000
 So I don't want to cause any trouble any more than I normally would.

927
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:50,000
 Would it be possible then to have our consultant look over that before?

928
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,000
 And then this forest ridge, we already had a speed survey back in April,

929
01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:01,000
 and I think the speeds were not super high as was expected because the condition is not great at the pavement,

930
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:06,000
 but we do have the data, and then we will do an after study.

931
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,000
 Do you want to keep it just to have the after study, speed study done?

932
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000
 If you'll indulge me, if you can kind of remind me the context,

933
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:19,000
 I remember we had a lot of discussion about the median or not having the median,

934
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:25,000
 and I don't remember the significance of why we said no member.

935
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:31,000
 It was to kind of address the concerns that would otherwise have been--

936
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:36,000
 So November was the construction schedule for that particular piece,

937
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,000
 so we wanted to have a before study of whatever we're doing with the medians.

938
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:46,000
 Right now we're keeping the medians, but the context was once the wider area,

939
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,000
 the 20-foot lane in the parking area is completely redone,

940
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,000
 what are the implications of having those put in and the new paper?

941
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,000
 Is it going to be higher speed?

942
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,000
 And once we determine that the speeds have gone up,

943
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,000
 then we may come back and look at traffic calming on that section.

944
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,000
 So that was the whole notion.

945
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:10,000
 But the discussion that we had wasn't that after April,

946
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,000
 in other words, there was a reason to want to do it to--

947
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,000
 if we already had it, because it was in April, we wouldn't have had a reason to say this.

948
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,000
 There's some logic to it.

949
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,000
 The survey that was conducted in April was an answer to the first question that you had.

950
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,000
 So you had a request that, "Hey, do we have a before study done?

951
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,000
 Can we get that study done before the construction hits the ground?"

952
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000
 And we already had a before study done back in April.

953
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,000
 So that was an answer, saying we already had the before numbers,

954
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:42,000
 now we need the after numbers once the construction is complete.

955
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:50,000
 When was the discussion, if you wouldn't remind me?

956
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,000
 This was back in July.

957
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:59,000
 So at that time, you must have agreed it's not totally stupid to put it on the list,

958
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,000
 even though we already had the April study.

959
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,000
 I did not know at the time when the request was made.

960
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,000
 This is new information.

961
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,000
 We found that we've already collected the information that you had asked for.

962
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,000
 There's no need to do it again.

963
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,000
 And that was the answer that was put in.

964
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,000
 Sorry, it's confusing.

965
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,000
 >> No, no, that makes more sense now.

966
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,000
 >> We can keep it.

967
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,000
 >> No, it's already answered.

968
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,000
 We have a speed survey done before November.

969
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:33,000
 I'd be interested to know what it said.

970
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,000
 But the most important thing is you have a before and an after.

971
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,000
 >> We have the before study already completed.

972
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,000
 And then mobility plan, once the mobility plan is in place

973
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
 and we have an idea of the CNP,

974
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:51,000
 we'll talk about how we're laying projects out and construction fatigue.

975
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:57,000
 The main request was the construction fatigue.

976
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,000
 How do we move forward with the mobility plan project?

977
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,000
 >> Yeah, kind of how do we time and face things so it addresses that?

978
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,000
 >> I'll leave this on.

979
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,000
 >> Do you want to take it off?

980
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,000
 >> No, I'll leave this on.

981
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
 >> Okay.

982
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,000
 Do you want to talk about other items to add at this point?

983
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,000
 >> Yes, we can add that.

984
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
 >> Who's ready?

985
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
 >> I have a few.

986
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,000
 >> Go ahead.

987
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,000
 >> Okay.

988
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:30,000
 I would like to have an update on the small system projects that are left.

989
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,000
 I know that there were some approved,

990
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:37,000
 but there doesn't look like there's been any action on some intersections.

991
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
 So, you know, what's the holdup?

992
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,000
 Where are we?

993
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,000
 And if you don't want to do a presentation,

994
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,000
 you can update it in an email to us or a report.

995
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,000
 It doesn't have to be a hold.

996
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,000
 It's up to you guys.

997
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,000
 It's how you want to get that information to us.

998
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,000
 And speaking of speed studies,

999
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,000
 there was a speed study done on King's Row, Nottingham, and Windsor several months back,

1000
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,000
 and I'm just wondering if we could get those results.

1001
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,000
 >> Okay.

1002
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,000
 King's Row, Nottingham.

1003
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,000
 And what's the last one?

1004
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,000
 >> I wanted to bring up the bike share.

1005
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,000
 I've seen some bikes back out into the right of way.

1006
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,000
 >> Oh, okay.

1007
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,000
 >> And I messaged Mark,

1008
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:32,000
 and he said that there was just so many more people using them from students and stuff,

1009
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,000
 and that they changed -- there's not a person who was doing it.

1010
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,000
 Resetting them and moving them is different.

1011
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,000
 So I just wanted to -- I'm not asking for anything.

1012
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:51,000
 I just kind of want to make sure that it's getting back to normal again after --

1013
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,000
 because the pilot was perfect.

1014
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
 I didn't see any issues.

1015
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,000
 And I'm really glad that people are using the bikes.

1016
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:10,000
 I just want to make sure that they're getting it back in the right spot.

1017
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,000
 That's all.

1018
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,000
 >> John?

1019
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:21,000
 >> I've got one, I'm not sure how to convey this.

1020
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:26,000
 But when we're doing construction on roads where we're closing off,

1021
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:31,000
 and I'll use the example that I went through yesterday on Shady Oaks,

1022
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,000
 there are resurvacings of the left and the straight lanes.

1023
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
 The left turn lanes are closed off.

1024
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:42,000
 So our sensors are not picking up that anybody wants to make a left-hand turn.

1025
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:49,000
 So as you were trying to go towards Teasley on Shady Oaks,

1026
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:54,000
 everybody was in basically the right turn lane having to go right, straight, or left,

1027
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,000
 and you'd get three or four cars through there per light cycle.

1028
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:03,000
 I was backed up beyond the curve because it's never getting a left-turn arrow

1029
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,000
 to let the people making a left get through there.

1030
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:09,000
 So that one person that wants to make a left stops in one car.

1031
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,000
 So when we're doing this construction,

1032
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:18,000
 can we come up with a game plan that the sensors can be taken offline,

1033
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,000
 that it just becomes a time cycle as opposed to using the sensor?

1034
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:37,000
 >> Yes.

1035
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,000
 >> Go ahead.

1036
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,000
 >> I've got an answer to the councilwoman's question on 380 Denbigh.

1037
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,000
 >> You know, the change of mutual terms is just council member.

1038
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,000
 I hear people struggle with this every meeting.

1039
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000
 >> I'm not very politically correct.

1040
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:54,000
 >> Apparently they are just replacing the curve on the median.

1041
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,000
 You've been saying it exactly right there.

1042
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,000
 >> Thank you.

1043
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,000
 >> And we'll meet them on Thursday to make sure they never let us know things like that.

1044
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:19,000
 >> Yeah, and there's also a dead tree in there if they want to go ahead and replace that one.

1045
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:27,000
 >> I hear persistently from one constituent that the sidewalk connectivity

1046
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:35,000
 between Unbell, between University and McKinney is very spotty from an ADA point of view,

1047
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,000
 that like if you wanted to roll outside a wheelchair through there, you'd be very challenged.

1048
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,000
 I appreciate if you would just take a look and see if you think there's a pressing issue there.

1049
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
 And secondly, I have a question.

1050
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,000
 Stuart Birdside is going to ask you this at some point today.

1051
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,000
 Probably anyway, but he might as well ask him while we're here.

1052
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:58,000
 In the construction report, you note that the corner of Elm and Oak is to be closed for two months.

1053
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,000
 Is that the whole thing or just like one lane?

1054
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000
 Traffic could be able to get through or not?

1055
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,000
 >> We're working on that one.

1056
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,000
 I'll get you an answer today so I don't be circulating back to Stuart.

1057
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,000
 >> Yeah, okay.

1058
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000
 Just letting you know it's coming.

1059
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,000
 >> Sure.

1060
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,000
 >> That's all I've got.

1061
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:18,000
 >> And on the street closure report, Forest Ridge,

1062
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,000
 it showed that the south part is going to open up on the 11th.

1063
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,000
 Is that still the truth or is it open now?

1064
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,000
 >> They are still working on it, I think.

1065
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,000
 >> It looked like they had the last two-inch layer to layer down.

1066
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,000
 >> They're not finishing that completely.

1067
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,000
 I can get you a fixed date.

1068
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:42,000
 >> It's a little confusing since we've closed down the northbound while the southbound is still under construction.

1069
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:49,000
 The signage, I know we've only got so many lighted signs, but they got pulled up to Hobson.

1070
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:59,000
 So there's no signage up there letting people know that the southbound is going to open up if it's open or closed.

1071
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:16,000
 >> John, thanks.

1072
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,000
 We've already adjourned, apparently.

1073
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:23,000
 So anything else from a staff report point of view?

1074
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,000
 Okay, then I'm going to.

1075
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,000
 >> One last thing.

1076
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:34,000
 I just want to mention that there is a work session item on Hinkle parking related.

1077
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,000
 >> Yes.

1078
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,000
 >> That will be coming for it next week.

1079
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,000
 >> I guess today.

1080
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,000
 >> Oh, today.

1081
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,000
 I'm sorry.

1082
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,000
 >> Yeah.

1083
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,000
 >> Moving today.

1084
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,000
 Anything you want to tell us about it in advance or just leave us in suspense?

1085
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,000
 >> There is no suspense.

1086
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
 >> I'm just trying to ramp up the suspense.

1087
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,000
 >> Yeah, okay.

1088
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,000
 >> It's riveting.

1089
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,000
 >> It is riveting.

1090
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:03,000
 Okay, seeing that there are no further items, I'll adjourn the meeting at 1013.