WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.600 as my vice chair or whatever committee so welcome to economic development partnership board 00:00:07.600 --> 00:00:13.280 it's wednesday june 25th we do have a forum so we will call the meeting order at 1106 00:00:13.280 --> 00:00:21.280 now begin with presentations from members of the public if any 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:36.080 same guy all right i guess all right we'll now continue with items for consideration 00:00:36.080 --> 00:00:44.880 we'll now begin with the first item item a which is edp 25-016 consider approval of the economic 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:50.720 development partnership board minutes for may 14 2025 i think everybody received those prior to 00:00:50.720 --> 00:01:00.000 meeting were there any questions or comments motion from rick second from jason all in favor 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:13.520 say aye all right opposed motion carries and then i'll move i'll let you hand it off yeah 00:01:13.520 --> 00:01:18.160 item b so we're going to receive a report 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:31.440 now item b apologize everyone for being late edp 25-018 receiver reports for discussion 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:36.320 and consider recommending approval to city council regarding an incentive agreement for panel ray 00:01:36.320 --> 00:01:44.160 a subsidiary of grupo pro max for an ad valorem rebate over five years on real property 00:01:44.160 --> 00:01:56.960 up to $47,419 in business personal property up to $122,938 a job-based grant of $16,500 on qualified 00:01:56.960 --> 00:02:06.720 job jobs and a relocation grant of $50,000 under chapter 380 of the local government code for an 00:02:06.720 --> 00:02:19.360 amount not to exceed $236,857 the chair recognizes britney saltello to present thank you for all those 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:26.240 tongue-tied amounts of money you did a great job uh good morning board of directors great to see you 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:31.600 we're here to present an overview of panel rays incentive application panel rate is based in 00:02:31.600 --> 00:02:37.760 monterey mexico and this is a true recruitment project and so those of you may know that we 00:02:37.760 --> 00:02:42.640 received leads from the state of texas economic development division and that there are specific 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:47.920 companies looking for specific site requirements and it's our role to respond to those leads and 00:02:47.920 --> 00:02:55.360 so christina davis manages our r5 proposals um so she submitted a site in ditten and from there the 00:02:55.360 --> 00:03:01.120 company ended up wanting to move to ditten so they were still and they're still considering other 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:06.720 cities and they do have different advocates but they're pretty much finalizing um a building here 00:03:06.720 --> 00:03:11.840 but i'm going to pass this christina davis she's a primary project manager and she'll present the 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:17.840 presentation and i do want to mention that juan carlos ruiz an engineering manager for panel rate 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.480 is here as well as elliot christy he's the electrical design chief staff so thank you 00:03:22.480 --> 00:03:27.120 for being here and they'll be prepared to answer questions right welcome 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:36.320 so christina davis business development administrator 00:03:36.320 --> 00:03:53.840 so as as britney did explain a group of pro max is the parent company of panel ray 00:03:53.840 --> 00:04:01.280 panel ray and group of chrome max is a family-owned 100 year old business they have 17 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:06.800 manufacturing facilities in house five countries and customers in 40 plus countries 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:11.440 and you can find their joint compound and drywall and more than 100 distributors in texas 00:04:11.440 --> 00:04:21.680 this project will be panel race first compound manufacturing facility in the u.s. they were 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:26.240 attracted to denton due to our strategic location and the housing growth in north texas 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:31.760 they're considering a 60 000 square foot building for phase one of their expansion into the u.s 00:04:31.760 --> 00:04:36.320 and this incentive would help to minimize the risk for entering this new market 00:04:36.320 --> 00:04:43.760 this is a location that they're considering it's in the industrial area south of airport road it's 00:04:43.760 --> 00:04:49.280 aligned here with the yellow and the pen mark there around the corner shelby lane and dakota lane 00:04:51.280 --> 00:04:56.000 uh panel rays considering a 60 000 square foot building on shelving land they'll invest 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:02.800 2.7 million and renovating the building to manufacture the joint compound and the 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:09.760 improvements will include expansion of the electrical system installation of two silos 00:05:09.760 --> 00:05:17.520 and manufacturing or covering the area to the east of the building with a 34 000 square foot 00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:23.360 patio to protect the trucks for their loading and they plan to start manufacturing one shift 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:28.960 and they've gone to three shifts and what's interesting about their project is that 00:05:28.960 --> 00:05:34.880 the construction or the the creation of the joint compound is completely enclosed 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:47.600 so review of the actual incentive application they are investing 15 million in capital investment 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:54.240 that includes uh purchase of the building 2.7 million will cover improvements so the improvements 00:05:54.240 --> 00:06:02.400 of the patio the um the silos the electrical that'll be part of the improvements there and 00:06:02.400 --> 00:06:08.240 then seven million will include improvements of bringing new personal business property 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.480 so equipment and specialized machines 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:16.480 we'll also create 20 new jobs 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:28.320 as their incentive the proposed incentive would be 60 percent of real property for five years 00:06:28.320 --> 00:06:36.240 60 percent of business personal property for five years job-based grant for 11 qualified jobs for 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:42.320 four years and a one-time relocation grant of fifty thousand dollars for total estimated value 00:06:42.320 --> 00:06:50.160 of 236 857 dollars in the lower table you see the investment in revenue so current valuation of the 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:58.880 property is 4.7 million the increased valuation is estimated at 9.7 and the total estimated valuation 00:06:58.880 --> 00:07:06.240 will be 14.5 million as far as revenue the current city revenue for that property is twenty eight 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:13.200 thousand fifty two dollars the increase would be 56 thousand seven hundred eighty six and that's a 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:28.640 total revenue of eighty four thousand eight hundred thirty seven this slide outlines the jobs for this 00:07:28.640 --> 00:07:37.200 project this job um hell ray will create 20 new jobs 10 year 10 and job 10 jobs in year one 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:44.960 five year five jobs in year two and five jobs in year four um in the highlighted the color 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:52.480 highlighted area identifies the 11 jobs that qualify for the jobs-based grant with a weighted 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:57.840 average salary of seventy two thousand seven hundred and thirty three the city's average wage 00:07:57.840 --> 00:08:09.680 right now is 65 651 this shows the impact the economic impact for this project net benefits 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:14.480 less the incentive over 10 years to the city will be six hundred seventeen thousand dollars 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:22.160 to the county will be 241 000 to the school district 612 000 the payback period is two years 00:08:22.880 --> 00:08:34.480 at a rate of return of 3.8 staff recommendation is a 60 rebate on new business and real property 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:45.360 taxes for five years for up to 170 357 a job-based grant up to 16 500 expansion grant 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:55.760 of 50 000 for total mattress a 236 837 dollars next steps if you approve the incentive would 00:08:55.760 --> 00:08:59.120 be to go to city council with individual consideration on july 15 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:05.600 do you have any questions for myself or the representatives from pal ray 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.760 any questions 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:17.200 how tall is towers gonna be how tall are the towers gonna be 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:23.760 extruding out of the top of the building the silos this oh the silos yes 00:09:23.760 --> 00:09:29.280 that's a good question maybe or juan carlos or la would you like to 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:44.800 the meters and meters 33 this one make sure they want to stick in that oh yeah stick up 00:09:44.800 --> 00:09:51.280 for the airport i i could add that they did we did already have a pre-application conference 00:09:51.280 --> 00:09:56.800 meeting with city staff to review um the changes they'd like to make to the to the building and 00:09:56.800 --> 00:10:05.600 make sure they were properly zoned for things like to to to create here we all see any permitting 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:12.800 risk or anything like tceq wise that would potentially slow this project now just no one 00:10:12.800 --> 00:10:18.320 about what we deal with i'm just curious so i know that staff we met with our environmental 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:24.160 services department um and so he recommended contacting tceq but for the most part i think 00:10:24.160 --> 00:10:29.680 that there shouldn't be a concern but i think they're still in that process right now christina 00:10:29.680 --> 00:10:34.160 do you want to add on to that yeah we've provided information for air permitting and the timelines 00:10:34.160 --> 00:10:40.640 um environmental services was part of the pre-application conference and so their product 00:10:40.640 --> 00:10:48.480 when it goes into the silo it's all transferred clean it's protected and then when it goes through 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:53.360 the production line and comes through the top and gets it's all enclosed to protect it because they 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:58.320 not only want to protect any dust from going out to the environment they want to protect their 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:05.040 product as well it's a room it's an unloading room the closure of the total unloading zone 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:11.200 from the truck it's a pneumatic vacuum from the truck to the silo and the height of the silo can 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:18.160 match and we can redesign only to match the correct height of the existing building that's another 00:11:18.880 --> 00:11:24.400 way that we can make make i'm not i mean i'm i know you all engineer that i'm more concerned 00:11:24.400 --> 00:11:30.000 about the do you have a permit by rule or something that makes sure it doesn't delay your project 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:38.320 that you can get any kind of tceq or just underneath any kind of limit for that it depends 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.160 on the product i mean i know we paint stuff so we have to worry about that so we don't have an 00:11:42.160 --> 00:11:50.320 external issue that can that end the day the point is there any asbestos material used 00:11:50.320 --> 00:12:00.000 any asbestos material no sir no sir main main material is calcium carbonate and water 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:08.240 almost 90 percent of the product that is dry wood mode is is made of calcium carbonate powder 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:16.720 and and water and the final product is a mix of it so it's not dusty or it's like a somewhat 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:22.960 so what we posted their um side visit they showed us a video of their facilities in mexico and 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.880 they're really they look really clean and i expect the same thing at the facility um we did 00:12:28.880 --> 00:12:36.160 gosh i forgot my thought go ahead sorry oh they have some of the largest contracts with the 00:12:36.160 --> 00:12:40.880 largest construction suppliers in the country so even the largest homeowners would be our horton 00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:49.920 as well do we know the impact that we think this will have to miami as far as revenue 00:12:49.920 --> 00:12:56.080 um they did not meet the guidelines for growth rider 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:02.160 so it's lower impact okay how long is the lease 00:13:04.400 --> 00:13:06.320 they'll be purchasing the building purchasing 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:11.200 that's good great did i see your presentation 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:16.800 20 positions we're looking at are the qualified but there's over subsequent below that 00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:25.680 um so over the over the five-year period of the grant four years they'll be hiring staff so year 00:13:25.680 --> 00:13:32.000 one two and four and out of those 20 positions 11 followed by for the grant gotcha um 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:38.720 is there projections beyond that as far as just job opportunities for the future 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:43.920 that the company has looked beyond in the five years we've just we've discussed expansion with 00:13:43.920 --> 00:13:48.960 them and adding additional lines of products um at this location but apparently we're just 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.000 looking at phase one which is one line of the gypsum production but they would like to expand 00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:00.560 here for their second and third lines uh maybe want to elaborate on carlos yes we will start with 00:14:00.560 --> 00:14:07.520 one line of drywall more and expected to have a metal stock line and the following year 00:14:07.520 --> 00:14:16.640 and having in a five-year period two more lines four metal stock lines and one slitter machine 00:14:16.640 --> 00:14:23.600 that got the steel four dots uh metal stock lines so that is the that is the plan 00:14:25.680 --> 00:14:31.520 we're going to use number is just for one drywall more time those expansions to fit in that 00:14:31.520 --> 00:14:41.440 facility yes it marks in the same uh 60 000 square feet area two questions how did they 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:49.520 or us get familiar with them how did it come into the economic development referral yeah so 00:14:49.520 --> 00:14:54.320 we received this lead from the state of texas um so what happens is when companies are looking to 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.920 move to texas in general they'll contact the state economic development division and they'll 00:14:57.920 --> 00:15:02.640 wait list out and say we need um x not as our fleet we need when we buy a lease when we move 00:15:02.640 --> 00:15:07.360 close to airport uh we receive those leads which i'll in my direct support i'll show you where we 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:13.120 capture the that data um and then christina and myself evaluate if we're going to respond or not 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:19.520 and so if we have an available site then obviously we want to submit that so that's how we um first 00:15:19.520 --> 00:15:24.800 yes and then we they contacted us that was in january they contacted us in uh march for a site 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:30.000 visit so jamey came in and uh he owes to them as well we came in met with him toward around the 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:34.720 building uh met with our development services teams our workforce teams as well and that's 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:39.280 when they decided that they didn't want to move forward with it the same question on the in a 00:15:39.280 --> 00:15:43.360 purchase situation or an existing building situation when you're doing your return on 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:48.480 investment are we just looking at the incremental tax revenue or the full revenue 00:15:49.520 --> 00:15:54.000 look over a 10 year term so we have a head slide i think on this one we can show you 00:15:54.000 --> 00:16:00.480 um i'm saying like right now the property is already on the tax rolls so are we just in the 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:05.840 return aspect of it are we just doing that as a baseline and everything above or are we doing the 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:10.640 full amount correct we we evaluate the improvements we also value with the new pp because what happens 00:16:10.640 --> 00:16:16.480 i think the current owner um had a tenant and so they're both leaving right now so the tenant is 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:21.120 going to take their equipment so then therefore they're we're going to if we don't refill that um 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:25.280 uh the lease then we'll leave that on the vpp because they're taking their equipment 00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:29.200 and so with them coming on board then we're retaining the vpp but also probably adding 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.840 a little bit more this is personal property okay and get that for equipment i'm talking about the 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.120 real estate the real estate is going to be there either way on the textiles are we including that 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:42.240 in return or are we not we are with improvements though because that will be an additional ad valorem 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:48.800 valuation added the third column of the bottom table the estimated increase in valuation that's 00:16:48.800 --> 00:16:55.280 should be entered into the model correct right so the first line here is the current land value 00:16:55.280 --> 00:17:00.640 but we didn't add any increase to that on the current land we we captured the improvements 00:17:00.640 --> 00:17:06.480 in the vpp yes you have thank you okay sorry 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.480 when does the new business property property tax 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:21.760 basement kick in that's uh it goes up to what 125 000 i don't know what it is now but it's going up 00:17:21.760 --> 00:17:27.600 at some point that was just passed when does that kick in and and when do we update our formulas 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:36.160 yes that's a good question i think any of those new legislative items will come into effect maybe 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:41.200 in september right scott i'm asking our attorneys yeah yeah september first i'm not sure what the 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:47.040 what the amount of the exemption i'm not sure either i want to say for i've heard small business 00:17:47.040 --> 00:17:50.400 i don't know if it's all for commercial property or not i'll have to do some more research i'll do 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:58.000 some digging what's the new law it's uh it goes up to 125 000 that you can uh you can get waived on 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:02.480 your probably using the wrong vernacular but you can get waived on your taxes and then if 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:07.520 you're if your business property tax property taxes are under 125 000 total you don't even 00:18:07.520 --> 00:18:15.120 have to file but it's above that seven million to six million a 25 if my understanding is right and 00:18:15.120 --> 00:18:21.680 if to her point if it applies universally to all business property personal property tax but i do 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:29.360 believe it does but that's outside looking in is that a safe deal yes so just so he signed it but 00:18:29.360 --> 00:18:34.640 then there's there's a two steps i guess there's the governor signing it and i think that makes it 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:43.840 active current whatever timeline and then there's where it gets codified into the uh that i yeah the 00:18:43.840 --> 00:18:47.760 i'm gonna say chart because that's the vernacular i'm used to them most bills passing the state 00:18:47.760 --> 00:18:53.680 legislator take back september the first unless specifically later got there you go some of them 00:18:53.680 --> 00:19:00.000 have the rider that if it's passed by more than two-thirds or whatever it comes to thank them unless 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.640 so yeah i would just forward it for you i just want to because if we're planning to out years it 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:09.520 certainly ended applies i just want to make sure that's captured and we're we're tracking 00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:14.080 all right any other questions for the gentleman from panel rate 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:22.240 any other questions about this topic if not can i get a motion to recommend approval 00:19:23.120 --> 00:19:28.800 uh for recommendation to city council for approval for an incentive agreement for panel rate as 00:19:28.800 --> 00:19:37.600 presented i got a motion from lee ramsey and i got a second by leo did i give you a second leo 00:19:37.600 --> 00:19:43.840 morales on a second any further discussion on this item just want to say thank you for being here 00:19:43.840 --> 00:19:50.480 appreciate it thank you thank you all all right hearing no other further discussion can i ask 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:59.280 that question yeah how many how many different cities areas did you look at in texas well not 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:05.840 in texas but in another in other states okay in texas uh we're looking for the big from the beginning 00:20:05.840 --> 00:20:15.280 for them okay and what what drew you to then what made you take them in texas we supply south of texas 00:20:15.280 --> 00:20:21.680 from another plants so this market uh we don't cover we don't have coverage of this market in 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:30.240 north texas or oklahoma or arkansas so that's why denton is a is the perfect site and logistic wise 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:35.680 manufacturing wise and obviously uh the building that we were looking for thank you 00:20:37.840 --> 00:20:45.680 all right hearing no other discussion i'll call the vote all those in favor please say aye aye 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:52.080 any opposed say nay hearing none motion passes 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:58.320 so we've got how many i got i got to have do i got to say the numbers 00:20:58.320 --> 00:21:03.840 don't want us to do that okay that was unanimous all right it's unanimous 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.720 thanks again thank you all again welcome 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:20.480 all right next we're going to move to our working session i'll call item a adp 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:29.600 25-020 receiving various staff reports first i'm going to hear about water infrastructure from 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:44.160 you good morning i'm kyle pentel uh planning and engineering division manager for water utilities 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:49.280 and i'm filling in for steven gay today um so i'm here today to provide some insight into how the 00:21:49.280 --> 00:21:56.800 utility plans for and addresses infrastructure need uh for the btj so as a water rights holder 00:21:56.800 --> 00:22:00.720 the city of denton interacts with the regency water planning committee our involvement hopes 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:05.920 ensure that the regional water plan reflects a broad range of interest and accurately addresses 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:14.160 water needs across the region so as far as the utility service area currently the utility serves 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:21.840 around 171 000 people through 45 000 utility service connections and our current water usage 00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:28.480 ranges from 18 to 42 million gallons per day that 18 number is what we utilize in winter which 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:34.560 doesn't take into account any outdoor water and irrigation and the 42 million gallons per day are 00:22:34.560 --> 00:22:45.040 the demands that we see on average throughout the summer so that more utilities is prioritizing 00:22:45.040 --> 00:22:49.760 its uh extraterritorial jurisdiction so the area outside the city limits but within the planning 00:22:49.760 --> 00:22:56.160 authority to safeguard its watershed we safeguard the watershed by following addressing the following 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:03.120 risks within our planning efforts so water risks within the tga include supply and so do we have 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:10.080 enough water to accommodate our projected growth dependence on wells how do the plan wells impact 00:23:10.080 --> 00:23:16.400 the groundwater table what happens if and when they dry up our water quality what sources or 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:23.360 development cause can contamination within our surface waters some wastewater risks include 00:23:23.360 --> 00:23:29.520 the proliferation of packaged plants so how do these plants are these plants managed and regulated 00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:37.440 and to ensure that they don't cause any downstream impact our stream and river water quality so how 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:42.880 do the varying wastewater discharges affect our local streams and rivers and our reuse supplies 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:48.880 how do we maintain our water rights by through a robust reuse program by maintaining access to that 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:58.320 so a common entity that we work with in the etj is the municipal utility district or mud 00:23:59.040 --> 00:24:02.240 muds are created to help provide infrastructure to a specific development 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:06.080 area and can annex into the city following the repayment of bond funding 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:15.440 so this is a map and list showing the muds that we're either working with or that we're aware of 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:21.680 within the etj so you can see there's heavy development interest in areas surrounding them 00:24:26.800 --> 00:24:31.920 so how ultimately how will this impact city water utility so accounting for the 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:37.760 known muds by build up the city's population will be increased by roughly 110 000 people 00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:44.400 that's roughly a 65 percent increase compared to today's population so that increase directly 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:57.120 influences the amount of infrastructure that the utility must plan for and construct so 00:24:57.120 --> 00:25:04.560 this infrastructure can either be localized or regionalized if the water utility doesn't address 00:25:04.560 --> 00:25:09.520 this on a regional basis then we need to deal with the widespread impacts of localization 00:25:10.320 --> 00:25:15.120 so this map shows the existing and planned regional water reclamation plants in green 00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:21.440 the existing local water reclamation plants in white and the current proposed local water 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:26.000 reclamation plants in yellow and blue depending on their phase of development so compared to the 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.800 surface water intakes shown in purple near each lake you can see that localized approach to 00:25:30.800 --> 00:25:36.480 wastewater treatment introduces many variables that can have regional impacts on our water column 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.480 since everything flows downstream 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:51.280 this chart is a comparison of the regional versus local approach 00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:55.920 approach it is just one of the tools that we use in our planning efforts when we approach our 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.480 infrastructure like that 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:07.040 so denton implemented the mud policy in 2022 which sets goals and conditions for the creation 00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:11.760 and operation of mugs it provides a framework for development agreements and establishes 00:26:11.760 --> 00:26:18.560 preferences for utility and emergency services services open spaces financial stability and 00:26:18.560 --> 00:26:24.080 future annexations this benefits the city by creating a full service utility that aids in the 00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:28.160 development of future infrastructure streamlines our development agreements 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:32.880 by ensuring that mugs are built to the city standard for infrastructure which helps with the 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:37.280 future annexation 00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:43.280 this is a basin map outlining the individual drainage basins within the city 00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:48.320 and the location for the existing and proposed water reclamation facilities in our 00:26:48.320 --> 00:26:54.400 as you can see we have three drainage basins which necessitates the construction of three 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:59.760 regional water reclamation facilities currently we have our existing facility is shown with the 00:26:59.760 --> 00:27:07.760 concrete basin green and then the two proposed facilities are associated with the northern and 00:27:07.760 --> 00:27:14.480 western drainage bases these are the main drivers behind our utility planning effort 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:22.880 so the infrastructure plan is shown here pulled from the 2023 wastewater master plan which was 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:28.560 adopted last year and the 2024 water master plan which is set to be adopted in august of this year 00:27:29.360 --> 00:27:33.520 the wastewater master plan is currently posted on the water utility website website and the 00:27:33.520 --> 00:27:42.240 water master plan will also be adopted these maps are they follow a common color coding system 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:48.400 throughout the master plans with everything shown in red to be planned to be constructed within the 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.440 zero to five year time frame everything in blue to be constructed in the five to ten year and 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:58.800 everything in green to be constructed within the 25 year time frame and figured i'd open it up to 00:27:58.800 --> 00:28:10.480 any questions on infrastructure development i'll just make a comment is you know i'm i'm really 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:15.520 happy we do a lot of development a lot of different cities and the city of denton i believe is doing a 00:28:15.520 --> 00:28:22.240 pretty good job before thinking with the muds and i'm a mud fan right because i think it helps with 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:29.600 future infrastructure costs and over time and and the city i think has done a good job looking at 00:28:29.600 --> 00:28:34.160 how instead of just saying no we're washing our hands because if they're going to happen because 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:39.760 they're out of the city's control i think the city then has done a good job of saying okay let's go 00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:46.080 ahead and figure out how to expand and get utilities here because it's a bigger picture than no we don't 00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:52.640 want muds like some cities doing just don't do anything red instead they say okay how long term 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:57.760 we know we're investing in our city what does this look like so that we can get those utilities to 00:28:57.760 --> 00:29:03.600 those areas so that we're looking at that considering that looking at the pros and cons i think it's 00:29:03.600 --> 00:29:09.520 positive so thank you for bringing that now for most people it doesn't happen fast enough 00:29:10.560 --> 00:29:16.640 but it takes time right so i think it's very good we're looking at what areas of our city needs to 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:26.000 grow and one question i do have when prioritizing which lines go in first is part of that looking at 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:33.520 economic development of what's the most potential growth in what areas does that put a priority of 00:29:33.520 --> 00:29:39.680 what projects we do first so the economic impact is to prioritize through the development services 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:46.000 group they investigate that from the utility we're primarily focused on the conveyance 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:51.440 infrastructure so what it takes to get water there it takes to transport wastewater away 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.400 our water rights do we have enough water to serve how are we looking how are we going to 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.640 manage this growth and then our treatment capacity so those are our primary drivers on 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.040 water and wastewater master plan i would just say you know looking at our growth patterns you know 00:30:07.040 --> 00:30:13.920 because water and sewer drive growth patterns ultimately right looking at the growth patterns 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:21.120 and what vacant land that is not affected by floodplain not affected by you know access and 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:28.000 those things and meet with economic development to try to come together and say okay if we put these 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:32.640 lines in in these areas we think our return is going to be quicker because of the growth 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:38.480 happening in those areas and we're kind of doing that with the mud districts because we have to 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:47.280 but even future projects i think it would be good to work with the city planning and then to prioritize 00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:52.240 those projects so that we can get a quicker return on these investments so that would just be a 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:57.440 recommendation and where do we want the city to grow because we put water and sewer that's where 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:03.360 it's going to grow you know and so i think it would be good to collaborate between economic 00:31:03.360 --> 00:31:10.640 development seated in planning and water utilities which i understand is hard to get everybody get 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:15.440 but to say where are we going to spend the city dollars because if we put them in the right spots 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:21.200 the return is going to be way faster western boulevard is the perfect example you know you 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:29.680 put a water line in out there in a road through it turns and boom i mean it blew up so that would 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:39.280 just be my only add it's make that problem great yeah thank you any other questions oh rick several 00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:44.640 years ago city owned the water rights to cooper lake up by salt springs and we sold that to urban 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:50.160 number of years ago of course they had to build the pipeline to put it in louisville we could still 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.480 use that water as if we owned it there and then put it back in louisville and use it again 00:31:54.480 --> 00:32:01.840 are we looking for those kind of opportunities still further away right now we're looking for 00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:06.480 water rights and we'll reconfirm them so our two primary sources are surface water through lake 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:12.080 louisville and surface water through lake ray roberts we're the minority water rights holders 00:32:12.080 --> 00:32:19.520 at allison both of those lakes but uh that's that's a big part of our planning is putting these 00:32:19.520 --> 00:32:24.240 putting the growth protections together and then really determining how much how far we can save 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:30.400 the conservation and where we can expand so we're looking at it we're turning over every rock right 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.920 now i hope we find some way and i know that you know tom hart rule was very involved in securing 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.160 the water rights through the years he and ray roberts but i don't think the city really 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:50.880 understands how important that was in 1950 yes but we do not we need to honor those two people 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:57.040 did we get anything out of uh i know uh opportunity and all that did they have all 00:32:57.040 --> 00:33:01.920 the rights for the boat ark lake and all the new ones up north i know that was before my time here 00:33:03.120 --> 00:33:13.360 negotiation discussions on that i know that we are looking through what was written down right now 00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:18.480 to see where the water rights are jimmy do you have a question 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:28.400 on the with economic development where development is planning to go where do you see the biggest gaps 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:37.440 in water to service those areas in the next five years from a timing of when you think new lines 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:44.080 are going to come online where's the kind of the hot spot of need and that's kind of what whenever 00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:50.480 i brought up having a plan for waters try to find out what excess capacity is in certain areas 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:55.280 and then where the demand are you kind of overlay those do you have any idea of where that is so that 00:33:55.840 --> 00:34:01.200 obviously people on council can try to see if there's resources we can put toward that to try 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.640 to fix it in the next five years appropriate answer i'm sorry we're an appropriate answer 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:14.480 not really no um so so really the focus right now is on the north uh kind of the north section 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:21.200 the clear creek basin if you go back here um the clear creek basin so working in the hickory creek 00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:32.080 um basin we're working with 100 100 development and we're pursuing different methods of getting 00:34:32.080 --> 00:34:38.080 the infrastructure out there the clear we're uh we're pursuing for wastewater our clear creek 00:34:38.080 --> 00:34:45.360 interceptor uh which is currently in design which would open up that whole basin the entire blue uh 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:52.480 good a good section of it through center the basin to wastewater service and then the uh 60 inch 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:58.880 extension from the ray roberts water treatment plant or water yeah water treatment plant at the 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:05.680 south end of ray roberts along to the west there that would uh open up as well that's our we're 00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:13.200 really looking to partner with mugs to partner you know to partner um with developers to 00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:19.200 accelerate that infrastructure growth so i'm saying capacity is probably an issue in uh 00:35:19.200 --> 00:35:22.960 hunter and coal ranch probably is handling the southern part of the hickory creek that's helping 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:28.720 to open it up so working with hunter and coal ranch bringing those those interceptor lines for 00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:33.280 your sewer and bringing the water lines out there helps to open up the rest of that area even the 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:40.400 farther north the far north area of hickory creek um not as much the far north but there are we are 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:47.200 showing a loop on the water here in red we're showing a 30 inch loop to come around that we're 00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:58.480 working with smaller mugs what where's that at it's uh on the right hand map map on the north side 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:05.200 that 30 inch um okay comes north 380 and then crosses 380 over south of chrome okay so on that 00:36:05.200 --> 00:36:12.000 previous map the clear creek extends further north up to apply milo kind of that area yeah the water 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.000 so water and wastewater we approach a little bit differently so with water since it's all 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.280 pressure-based we don't have to worry about drainage basins so water is i don't want to say 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:27.040 easier to extend but you don't have the gravity drainage considerations so that's more of a 00:36:27.040 --> 00:36:32.640 sig-wide approach with our wastewater we have to really narrow it down to development basically 00:36:32.640 --> 00:36:40.320 developing developing the trunk line in the basin so that everything else so is there a is there a 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.920 plane in place right now to kind of tackle that northern whatever base we're talking about this 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:51.520 point the one yes yes so that's hickory creek sorry wait a minute you're talking two different 00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:56.240 things did you say the clear creek's under design or the hickory creek's under design both of them 00:36:56.240 --> 00:37:01.120 are so the hickory creek the the interceptors through the hickory creek are under design 00:37:01.120 --> 00:37:07.840 through the hundred college operating agreements with them delivering those projects the clear 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:15.200 creek we're in designing through the city because we don't have that anchor yet we have development 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:20.320 you know we have constraints up there but we don't have that anchor to pursue 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:28.320 so a lot of the businesses that do come like through grittings department development they tend 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:33.280 to be airport and then a little bit north of that is what we're looking at at least i've been on for 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:39.040 about a year that's what i've kind of picked up so far uh so what is the kind of game plan for that 00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:43.840 area because it looks like the higher call is going to accomplish more the southern the southern 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:48.560 but it stretches all the way up to that north to the northern the way the drainage basin works 00:37:48.560 --> 00:37:53.760 to university or further okay there's some existing infrastructure out there right now 00:37:55.520 --> 00:38:01.600 that pulls it what we basically do is we pull out of the hickory creek basin on that northern 00:38:01.600 --> 00:38:08.000 section just off the crowd we pump it over the concrete basin what the hundred coal interceptors 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:15.040 do by by running the interceptor from the low end of hickory creek up it creates a gravity solution 00:38:15.040 --> 00:38:22.400 which makes it much easier to connect into and so that that'll extend it'll keep extending up 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.160 all the way to three so on that map that you have with all the the planned stuff in the 30 00:38:28.160 --> 00:38:35.520 30 inch that goes all around the loop um what's the timing on all of that to try to get it all 00:38:35.520 --> 00:38:42.240 like to get in place that's a pretty forward looking graph right yeah so right now the timing 00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:48.080 on all the with i think on this chart with all the red is within the five year window okay but 00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:55.760 it's not it's a mixture of development through buds building you know extent extending 00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:01.920 their off-site improvements to reach their need and then us taking it up after that and 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.720 city projects so it's a mixed thank you 00:39:06.720 --> 00:39:18.160 go ahead um similarly the legislation's got to be approved in november one billion dollars a year 00:39:18.160 --> 00:39:24.240 do you have a feel for what that looks like i guess it goes to the texas water fund do we do we have 00:39:24.240 --> 00:39:30.400 are we i mean obviously it just passed so forward looking i'd like to know how we get involved in 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:36.400 those considering we're pursuing all basically every funding that's on the table through the 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:43.120 utility we're pursuing right now so we secured a swift loan from the texas water development board 00:39:43.120 --> 00:39:50.560 last year for the expansion of the ray roberts water treatment plant we're working with livia 00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:58.800 so the water infrastructure finance act through the federal government to secure funding for our 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:06.000 entire capital plan and then we're also submitting interest to the texas water development board for 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:13.440 our other large dollar some plant expansions for pecan creek clear creek and hickory creek got it 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:18.960 and i think it would be productive because y'all are doing great work and i can envision another 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:24.240 slot that kind of captures these other things we're doing to be kind of proactive and so i'm 00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:28.000 going to butcher it i'll let you fix it and if i'm not supposed to say it then just tell me i'm not 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:34.400 supposed to say it after i'm done but uh but i do want to give credit where credit's due because 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:40.160 their team has so there's uh what we're trying to do is prevent people from punching a whole bunch 00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:47.680 of wells out in the etj and then also there's designated areas where the water flows to say 00:40:47.680 --> 00:40:53.760 lake grapevine and so the team has reached out in those areas and said hey give us your runoff water 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.760 and we're going to run it back to like lewisville so we can get lewisville lake tj would get mad at 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.480 me run it to lewisville lake so that we can get credit for that so here's water that should have 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:08.880 gone flowed towards like grapevine that we're capturing sending to lewisville lake to then get 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:14.080 credits to be able to retrieve that water so real real creative thinking around that and so every 00:41:14.080 --> 00:41:18.640 time we can do that that's net positive hundred percent like we never should have been in that 00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:24.320 game and so they're to their point about getting creative and doing all things uh really really 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:30.880 proud of the work they're doing so how does the wells impact that water wells the water wells you 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.560 said the etj to eliminate water yeah so how does that impact well because they can punch down so 00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:41.760 they can build a house only thing they need water for is fire stations and so we're trying to prevent 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:46.640 them from punching a bunch of wells because the water table is shrinking as is and there's no way 00:41:46.640 --> 00:41:52.320 to monitor that no way to kind of control that and so what you try to do is get them on city water 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.120 so that we can control the flows we can kind of monitor we can do all those things and then they 00:41:57.120 --> 00:42:04.960 also convey over land or towers etc etc so there's a trade-off and there's a monitoring component so 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:10.480 really it's that just to make sure we can have a feel for what the water table is doing and control 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:16.560 that versus just the wild west of people just drilling and because ultimately what happens is 00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:22.320 their well fails and then it's a real big problem in the middle of nowhere there's not a property 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.080 rights issue on that no well basically what is you know you got bolivar water out there you got 00:42:28.080 --> 00:42:33.920 mustang water you got these guys so they may have the ccn for that area and if they have the ccn for 00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:41.360 that area we can go cut a deal with them and then put a put a well and tower in and be about 1200 00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:48.640 feet apart for the north texas water district i think is right and so then you can if they get 00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:56.240 the ccn so then you got all these wells out in the counties which is not necessarily a bad thing but 00:42:56.240 --> 00:43:05.440 i believe overall long term it's better for a city that be using surface water than underground 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:11.200 storage water there will always be a balance of both but if you can get with the city's looking 00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:17.120 ahead that mud district's going to spend like right now if you go to volatile water they're going to 00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:22.640 charge you like 93 hundred dollars a tap for a capital recovery fee and they're going to go 00:43:22.640 --> 00:43:28.800 drill a well and they're going to maintain that well and supply but really what it does overall 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:35.840 for the underground storage you don't really they have pretty good guesses right but they don't 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:42.080 really know if we can think ahead like we're doing and say bolivar will you do a joint agreement or 00:43:42.080 --> 00:43:47.680 give up your ccns to the city of denton and we can use surface water for that it's way easier to 00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:54.480 regulate that as far as how much usage is we do both in our development sometimes we go drill wells 00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:01.120 sometimes we work with the city but if i'm paying 93 hundred dollars a tap and i can go 00:44:01.120 --> 00:44:08.160 apply those funds and the city's willing to apply funds and we can do a joint project long term 00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:12.160 that's what i say long-term thinking if the city will put a little bit of money in 00:44:12.160 --> 00:44:17.200 and the developers put money in to expand this infrastructure and the mud district can reimburse 00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:23.280 that over time and the city gets it back over time that's a much better in my opinion long-term 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:27.600 approach probably some cities say we're not spending the dollar it's in their atj but the 00:44:27.600 --> 00:44:33.280 state laws changed city dentons not necessarily taking that approach because who knows that's 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:39.120 gonna change one day you know it's not gonna be that way so this is different than like if i'm 20 00:44:39.120 --> 00:44:46.240 acres out west of town and i want to put a water well for my house that's different that's what 00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:51.360 you're talking about right no i'm talking about for subdivision like i'm putting 25 lots in same 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:57.040 thing because those are not for an individual like home property right okay right because those 00:44:57.040 --> 00:45:03.440 are because they're getting so large there are other questions specifically for the water several 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:11.120 years ago both dams those bill and rey roberts were on the danger list are you satisfied with 00:45:11.120 --> 00:45:17.920 coral engineers and unnecessary repairs to keep those from failing i believe so but i haven't 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:23.280 looked at that recently with the other folks on the infrastructure and loss of either one of them 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:31.120 it'd be devastating i mean what's the ccn he can answer it's who has the right to serve that area 00:45:31.120 --> 00:45:37.360 that's the certificate of convenience and necessity so basically which utility has the right to serve 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:43.600 water or wastewater services in that geographic area you said something about 93 something dollars 00:45:43.600 --> 00:45:48.880 for a tap well it's what is the capital recovery fee for some of these rural water districts it's 00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:54.880 not city of denton it's if oliver if you're in their ccn they're going to charge you so much per 00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:00.720 tap to be able to get the drill their wells and this has to do with water because you know if we 00:46:00.720 --> 00:46:07.360 can apply those funds to expansion you know to a city water that's much better use of those funds 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:13.200 one quick question is back to economic development and i know we got to move on all right we got one 00:46:13.200 --> 00:46:19.120 less question one last question but again like i think we should definitely be working with planning 00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:23.840 and look at what the zoning is in that area because you look at that clear creek up there 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:29.680 for the wastewater the zoning up there is five acre lots and so i think that's something we've 00:46:29.680 --> 00:46:35.440 got to do we got to look at because there's not a lot of sewer required for five acre lots 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:43.920 obviously uh interesting topic to everybody so appreciate your uh coming and talking to the 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:51.360 board thank you again questions there for for that particular topic i'm gonna call uh for britney to 00:46:51.360 --> 00:47:01.440 give our director thank you thank you so much all right so it was a slower month for us but 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:08.560 it's just in this presentation we have a new newsletter for downtown called a dip downtown low 00:47:08.560 --> 00:47:14.720 down um i know it's really exciting see some of your faces pretty cool title uh so this is an 00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:19.440 upgrade from an email that staff was sending to the business owners and programmers downtown about 00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:24.320 resources road closures whatever is going on around the city and a mainstream program um so chris and 00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:29.200 matilda worked hard on putting this newsletter newsletter together we released the news on social 00:47:29.200 --> 00:47:35.200 media and i think people are going to find it so pretty good um important update so this presentation 00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:39.280 was planned for two weeks ago for the council meeting so some of it's back dated but twilight 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:44.800 tunes is officially over fortunately but um christen is still highly involved with the main street 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:51.440 program and the energy twilight tunes and um didn't june teeth just passed so we missed the date 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:58.480 unfortunately but we wanted to celebrate that um our partner visits collaboration staff into the 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:04.480 stokes flint conference and the edp quarterly forum and we attended the unt jim mcnaught institute 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:12.640 for logistics research um presentation farhan but our transportation manager and myself presented 00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:18.640 um our department information to the faculty at unt in this department really to discuss research 00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:24.400 and development um collaboration opportunities and from this meeting um farhan is now collaborating 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:30.880 with unt on a u.s department of transportation grant proposal that he submitted today actually 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.320 it's called an advanced air mobility grant and so this will allow us if we are able to 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:42.000 get a vertiport this will allow us funding up to if rewarded two million dollars for a vertiport 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:49.600 so that was a good uh meeting following business town hall so christen put together our uh this 00:48:49.600 --> 00:48:54.640 meeting to collaborate with the downtown business owners um so as you can see in the bottom right 00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:58.720 picture um there's a few business owners quite a few business owners actually that are involved 00:48:58.720 --> 00:49:03.040 um with halloween and they're looking at creative ideas to celebrate during the month of october 00:49:03.040 --> 00:49:07.200 um and we also did in the public libraries reference solutions training 00:49:07.200 --> 00:49:14.880 so here are our may recruitment stats we currently have 27 active projects in the pipeline um out of 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:20.080 the pipeline that's a little over close to 4 000 potential jobs and 4.5 billion in capital investment 00:49:20.080 --> 00:49:26.320 um we had during the month of may we had two new leads um one that was from a broker and one was 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:33.120 direct and then we had one incentive applications and so the way that we um title or kind of define 00:49:33.120 --> 00:49:36.640 leads is those are serious prospects are wanting to move in because everyone has a different 00:49:36.640 --> 00:49:40.800 definition so that's why sometimes it seems low we get general requests all the time that we're 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:46.480 starting to track as well so we report that out um so under the active product stage we have quite 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:52.000 a few in the lead stage that will stay there um we have five that are waiting application but they 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:56.560 have told us that they do want to submit an incentive application so those are in the queue 00:49:56.560 --> 00:50:02.080 um one that we're processing right now and then um two that are in the standard negotiation process 00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:07.840 um and three that are in the board approval so we didn't have any recruitment business during the 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.200 month of may and we actually lost two leads um so one did not make the incentive qualifications 00:50:13.200 --> 00:50:18.080 for our top of the rating policy um they already had applied for a commercial permit alterations 00:50:18.080 --> 00:50:22.800 permit um so they're already here we plan to send them off to the chamber because they want a grand 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.680 opening ribbon cutting so um that's a really good company i don't know if i'm allowed to share it but 00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:32.880 yet but um unfortunately we consider a lead loss because they were not going to move forward with 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:38.160 themselves um the other one chose another location i believe they chose the city of lewisville um 00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:43.200 they were looking at a site a warehouse space in denton and if you talk to the broker you'll get a 00:50:43.200 --> 00:50:47.920 different story from what their business owner said so but they ultimately chose lewisville but 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:53.360 we actually had processed their incentive proposal we had it on the uh cube agenda to propose to uup 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:59.840 but they ended up choosing lewisville for the downtown stats uh christen have four business 00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:05.360 for change and expansion visits and six downtown reinvestment grant leads and that's specifically 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:12.400 for through tours one um and then she we held the tours one meeting in may and the board approved 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:17.600 the tours one annual report um and then we also had a public improvement district informal staff 00:51:17.600 --> 00:51:22.160 report that was released so those you may recall that we met with property owners in the downtown 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:26.240 area to discuss the potential of creating a public improvement district and many of the property 00:51:26.240 --> 00:51:30.560 owners turned it down they didn't want to move forward so we released an official release so if 00:51:30.560 --> 00:51:36.720 you're curious to see that we can send it to you as well so here's where we track our request for 00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:41.200 information stats and these are the leads from the state and the dallas regional chamber this is how 00:51:41.200 --> 00:51:47.120 we got panel right um so for the month of may we received five we submitted seven we did not submit 00:51:47.120 --> 00:51:53.760 on one uh probably because we meet some criteria um but we didn't have any lead conversions um so 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.640 from the dallas regional chamber we received two and three from the governor's office um so within 00:51:58.640 --> 00:52:04.320 that pipeline it's a total of 47.5 million dollars in average capital investment and 270 average 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:10.880 jobs um so for the year the calendar year we submitted total 35 RFIs so sometimes those 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:16.880 numbers don't add up as well for submitted into uh and no submittal because the due dates sometimes 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.760 go into a different month so those numbers may not add up to the total RFIs received 00:52:24.160 --> 00:52:25.440 music and film till then 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:35.760 so this is the presentation for may so we have two permit issues in april and one in may 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:41.120 even though this just happened this weekend the state film incentive passed 00:52:41.120 --> 00:52:49.600 that's 300 million every session or 125 million each year for the next 10 years for a total of 00:52:49.600 --> 00:52:58.480 1.5 billion in incentives for film in the state of texas you may recall american idol was on the 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:06.320 square we had a big parade concert um and then council member melchor is not here anymore but 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:14.640 his uh documentary uh premiered at thin line film festival and then a local family documentary was 00:53:14.640 --> 00:53:21.600 nominated for an emmy recently uh and then finally i've just been working on some film marketing 00:53:21.600 --> 00:53:26.880 knowing that this incentive might pass uh you may have gotten an email from me saying submit your 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:34.400 location if you're a property owner or if you want to uh we have a database of different locations 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:41.200 on the state's website so a film production could come and make like a rental agreement with you 00:53:41.200 --> 00:53:47.280 basically to use your home or your business or whatever your property that you own um so 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.840 i've been making some marketing materials to distribute that to location professionals 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:59.360 and then lastly um economic development and discovery went on a music venue tour to harvest 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:07.200 house and then also to steve's wine bar as their uh music venue that received the texas music 00:54:07.200 --> 00:54:17.440 incubator we made last year thank you any cool sites to share let us know the last home permit 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.960 that came in they were looking for a 1930 style ranch house right um and so we were like we're 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.680 gonna find one so we called a few folks i don't know if we ever found one but there's they're 00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:34.480 always looking for unique sites all right council updates um council approved the mayday manufacturing 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:40.400 consent and proposal so congratulations board um and the catalyst fund item pass that was jill 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:46.320 jester's uh two minute pitch so that ended up passing last council meeting as well so congratulations 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:53.600 board events we held a foreign trades on webinar yesterday and we had 12 attendees total including 00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:58.800 staff i think there were like five seven company representatives um from what i hear it went well 00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:05.520 and um i attended the bio international conference in boston last week um that was a new experience 00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:10.000 for me i went alongside the dallas regional chamber who hosted the booth that was their booth in the 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:16.400 picture um in several cities in the dfw went as well as let's see dallas plano desoto and arlington 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:21.760 um so we got a few leads and i wanted to really explore if that's this is going to be opportunity 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:27.920 for didn't so unt has a biomedical engineering degree program that um we can definitely 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:32.560 collaborate on but there may be potential to explore creating wet lab space for some of the 00:55:32.560 --> 00:55:38.320 research and development or just general companies in the life science space um in denton uh desoto 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:43.440 and plano they're both building spec office space and lab space for life sciences and so 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:48.240 um i would like for our board to get to a spot where we're kind of creating and this vision for 00:55:48.240 --> 00:55:52.320 the future of denton and what we want to specialize in because i think that will create a separate set 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:59.600 of jobs that we're used to seeing and we got a proclamation for steve edgar former chairman 00:55:59.600 --> 00:56:04.000 um we wanted to celebrate him and his efforts i think he served on the board for six 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:10.560 six years six years um so just so you know brian you'll get to have a proclamation of city council 00:56:10.560 --> 00:56:20.400 too but we understand that this is a time consuming for you it's a lot to come out every 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:26.160 month but we really do support we appreciate all of your efforts and that is it any questions 00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:31.120 on the house fund that was passed that council there was a discussion here first at a lesser 00:56:31.120 --> 00:56:40.000 percentage or 100 what was the i think we decided 100 we're gonna put erica uh basically that it 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.880 will be evaluated annually correct budget process that it could be a portion of all 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:51.920 but the first year 100 or whatever it would be up to the council to decide that we will present 00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:57.120 the full value and then they can decide that it's based on budget appropriations and councils review 00:56:57.120 --> 00:57:02.560 and will be every year okay so when's the first review of that we did it for 10 years but i did 00:57:02.560 --> 00:57:05.760 it for 11 with ordinance we could do it to make sure we could do it this year 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:16.320 on the unt and the labs is there have been any leads conversations of is it just a thought 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:22.080 right now or is there actually some substance to possibly move that direction so the murphy center 00:57:22.080 --> 00:57:27.920 it's the unt's entrepreneur center they have indicated that they have startups originating 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:35.040 at unt's their research division that would like wet lab space so um you know i learned a lot of 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:40.480 well i learned a lot i don't know if i can repeat it because i probably already forgot but um i think 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.040 there's opportunity there and we're going to explore so jll i think they're building 00:57:45.040 --> 00:57:50.400 it's a commercial brokers firm they're building in plano right now so i want to pick their brand 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:55.440 see if that's potential for um didn't because if so then we can definitely maybe recruit some of 00:57:55.440 --> 00:58:02.000 those companies into but we had it earlier this year we had a medical device manufacturer um that 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.120 toured didn't and that came through their dallas reno chamber so that kind of got us thinking well 00:58:07.120 --> 00:58:10.640 maybe this is an avenue that we should explore i do think we have stronger industries that we 00:58:10.640 --> 00:58:17.280 should focus on uh but i think this is additional that we can capitalize in the future stronger 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.800 the question is if you pivot and you already have the foundational structure how quickly can you 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.840 pivot how quickly can you attract it so i don't know much about the wet labs and what the requirements 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:34.000 are but uh just just i guess focusing very little bit i'm saying what is there and how far up you 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:40.640 got so i like it i mean what yeah i think kind of what you're getting i'll give you an example the 00:58:40.640 --> 00:58:47.520 word we have a headwind here that's pretty significant for for manufacturing and that's 00:58:47.520 --> 00:58:55.120 that we're in a zero attainment epa zone being in dfw area so that means that if you're considered 00:58:55.120 --> 00:59:02.000 a major emitter so over 25 tons of knocks per year that you are going to have to be subject to 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:08.400 federal review which could be a three to six year process so if you're trying to get businesses in 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:16.560 here that could fall under federal review that goes to the that goes to the nation it goes to 00:59:16.560 --> 00:59:24.160 the epa so one of the things like the opportunities we got to talk about is you know a wet lab space 00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:29.360 they wouldn't fall into that category so that might be something we want to look at as we're 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:37.040 exploring because that environmental cap is only going to get lower so two years ago it was 50 00:59:37.040 --> 00:59:43.040 tons per year now it's 25 so they they are strategic yeah very we have to be strategic 00:59:43.040 --> 00:59:49.520 about what types of that's kind of why i asked the question in in lat like how much 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:57.040 emissions or are you going to grow to because that's going to actually limit your amount of 00:59:57.040 --> 01:00:03.280 growth that you can do just by the fact that you're in dfw because because if we highlight 01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:08.160 low emissions it still gives us the opportunity of growth on other industries that are not as 01:00:08.160 --> 01:00:14.080 forgiving on that because we load it lightly at the beginning yes always sandbag at the end 01:00:14.080 --> 01:00:19.040 for some of the other competitors in this this area they're already maxed out they're having to 01:00:19.040 --> 01:00:23.120 manage that at a whole different level we have the opportunity to look at and say okay it might not 01:00:23.120 --> 01:00:30.880 be in our line of sight right now but is a great strategy for collecting now and later i like it 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.520 we cannot we can definitely add it to our strategy so we still want to hold a whole day a board 01:00:35.520 --> 01:00:40.480 retreat we um as you know you may see in the news that the city's having financial concerns or 01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:46.240 re-availing in our operating budget um so i think that we can probably move forward with a board 01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:52.960 retreat uh we want to get a facilitator facilitator and to lead it so but these are great ideas and i 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:58.800 think i've never considered that constraint brian and leo but i think the retreat would be a good 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:09.040 by the way to discuss this i think i think we kind of need to dfw and houston areas are non-attainment 01:01:09.040 --> 01:01:16.000 epa areas for the state of texas so we just need to be sensitive to that as we recruit and hopefully 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.160 i mean to be honest when that comes from the state they should hopefully be pushing things 01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:26.960 to us that don't violate that but we don't need to be spending a lot of bandwidth in my opinion 01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:33.040 recruiting someone who at the end of the day will say the tcqs and go well we really want you in 01:01:33.040 --> 01:01:37.360 denton but it's going to take six years so they're going to go somewhere else so it's just something 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:48.000 that we need to be cognitive that's helpful all right um are you going to cover for future agenda 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:56.800 items sure yes just things not here yeah all right so we may potentially have two projects to bring 01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:04.000 them before you project loom and project footprint and potentially project recharged um we will 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:08.160 discuss the rfi overview which will detail some of the leads that we are getting here from the 01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:15.280 state and the drc and i think this would be a great opportunity to expand on brian's statement 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:20.880 on which leads should we be responding to um and that is those two major items right now 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:29.440 okay so um we're going to move on to concluding items then does the board have any other business 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:37.280 to discuss for suggestions on what they wish to hear in the next meeting jeremy all right 01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:49.680 i would like for staff to bring back an update on the utilities rates etc it's on the agenda 01:02:49.680 --> 01:03:01.680 as they're supposed to be yeah but it's to be determined like i'm saying we're having a 01:03:01.680 --> 01:03:07.920 conversation now and i don't know what your utility bill is but i bet just more than the one person 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:16.240 that's driving the conversation in his house so we probably want to have some some input from 01:03:16.240 --> 01:03:26.720 somebody that has more than 2000 square feet so yes i was this is a this is a hot topic for peter 01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:33.440 bill so and you're using less energy and paying more money for it right now well in embassy suites 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:41.600 and all the but you know so what i'm saying is hear me a 2000 square foot house guy is driving 01:03:41.600 --> 01:03:52.400 a conversation versus all the big users because we don't hear from you right i hear from you 01:03:52.400 --> 01:04:02.400 but we gotta we gotta so i need to raise the awareness to say hey don't don't miss this 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:10.560 opportunity to level set and and maybe us refocus on those that have more than 2000 square feet 01:04:10.560 --> 01:04:15.600 driving conversations being active in those conversations think to your point and also as 01:04:15.600 --> 01:04:21.440 you look at these impact fees that's a that's you go build a new factory now you're paying higher 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:26.720 rates and then to get your permit you're paying higher rates you gotta gotta look at that globally 01:04:26.720 --> 01:04:32.720 because that's a those are they're about to be really big numbers and i think we got to look at 01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:38.160 that as a whole utility package when they also the deposits yeah i think was what the original 01:04:38.160 --> 01:04:42.960 original special was based on deposits uh but yeah needs to be discovered needs to be expanded 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:48.560 include all of this so if there's any if if i would say and i don't know i think we had that 01:04:48.560 --> 01:04:55.760 conversation in july but i'm happy to say hey we're having this conversation in july but we're 01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:01.920 gonna you know send it to the to the board or send something out to the board earlier at least so 01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:07.600 they know if we're hard set for that july conversation i don't know when that comes back 01:05:07.600 --> 01:05:13.120 i'm just saying i'm passionate about making sure we get equitable responses versus 01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:20.960 the offer also christina when you coordinate a schedule right now we currently don't have a 01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:26.160 july meeting scheduled but we may need a special call meeting and we will reach out to you if 01:05:26.160 --> 01:05:31.520 that's the case to push some of these projects forward a little bit sooner but for sure in august 01:05:31.520 --> 01:05:35.440 we'll put it on the agenda and i'm not having just to be clear i'm not advocating for extra 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:44.640 meetings so we good but but you certainly can send an email saying hey city council is doing 01:05:44.640 --> 01:05:49.440 these things as a follow-up to the you have everyone's email and then that that does the 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:55.520 same thing i just want people to be aware of and be active in those conversations all right sounds 01:05:55.520 --> 01:06:04.400 good on the topic of those low admissions as we're looking at the board retreat possibly or 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:09.920 even in the future can we identify where those type of industries are and you just start looking 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.560 just i mean this is not necessarily pressing us to get to the end of it just 01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:20.080 start taking in that direction and going hey you know what are what are the low hanging fruit for 01:06:20.080 --> 01:06:25.120 how to attend this position because i love their answer and i'm glad jeremy asked what brought you 01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:33.120 here and and it's effectively uniquely placed for a huge distribution and so we can we can target 01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:39.040 more efficiently some of those industries and if we come with the right mindset we can have a great 01:06:39.040 --> 01:06:48.240 strategy okay we have uh so per about energy do we have consensus on that i think everybody 01:06:48.240 --> 01:06:55.760 kind of agree i know i would agree to put that on a future item and then uh yeah for more board 01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:02.400 retreat i think probably britney i need to get with you and get my environmental engineer kind of 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:08.480 educated up with you i think that's pretty complicated topic i think that would be a blast 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:14.560 it'll be fun i'll expose you to that so funny stories of corpus christi i had to dive into that 01:07:14.560 --> 01:07:18.480 industry but they're actually in air attainment and they have all the refineries there isn't that 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:24.960 crazy well it's a problem it's an issue it's for us so we got to be smart because you can go right 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:30.640 up the road to gainsville and do the same thing that you do at peterville without putting any 01:07:30.640 --> 01:07:37.280 emissions controls in literally 30 to 40 minutes up the road so it's it's an issue for them 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:48.560 something we need to be strategic about okay um so with no other future agenda items uh or anything 01:07:48.560 --> 01:07:56.480 further to discuss um we got to go on to the next items because you are a member of the edpb you're 01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:03.520 also member of the ters2 board please stay after this we do have a ters2 special call meeting which 01:08:03.520 --> 01:08:10.640 take approximately 30 minutes uh just a reminder our next edpb meeting is scheduled to be on august 01:08:10.640 --> 01:08:17.840 13th at 11 please let staff know if you're not able to attend the meeting and submit your notification 01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:26.320 of absence now online anyone got to get closing items i would like to say that next meeting in august 01:08:26.320 --> 01:08:29.840 is jeremy mike's birthday so we could get cake for that meeting as well 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:35.680 you need to hear about the budget short call 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:51.280 all right we'll close this meeting out then and we can open up with our 01:08:51.280 --> 01:08:57.280 you want to we can adjourn this meeting and we've got 15 minutes till officially the next