1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,600 as my vice chair or whatever committee so welcome to economic development partnership board 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:13,280 it's wednesday june 25th we do have a forum so we will call the meeting order at 1106 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:21,280 now begin with presentations from members of the public if any 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:36,080 same guy all right i guess all right we'll now continue with items for consideration 5 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:44,880 we'll now begin with the first item item a which is edp 25-016 consider approval of the economic 6 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,720 development partnership board minutes for may 14 2025 i think everybody received those prior to 7 00:00:50,720 --> 00:01:00,000 meeting were there any questions or comments motion from rick second from jason all in favor 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:13,520 say aye all right opposed motion carries and then i'll move i'll let you hand it off yeah 9 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,160 item b so we're going to receive a report 10 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:31,440 now item b apologize everyone for being late edp 25-018 receiver reports for discussion 11 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,320 and consider recommending approval to city council regarding an incentive agreement for panel ray 12 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:44,160 a subsidiary of grupo pro max for an ad valorem rebate over five years on real property 13 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:56,960 up to $47,419 in business personal property up to $122,938 a job-based grant of $16,500 on qualified 14 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:06,720 job jobs and a relocation grant of $50,000 under chapter 380 of the local government code for an 15 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:19,360 amount not to exceed $236,857 the chair recognizes britney saltello to present thank you for all those 16 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:26,240 tongue-tied amounts of money you did a great job uh good morning board of directors great to see you 17 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,600 we're here to present an overview of panel rays incentive application panel rate is based in 18 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:37,760 monterey mexico and this is a true recruitment project and so those of you may know that we 19 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,640 received leads from the state of texas economic development division and that there are specific 20 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:47,920 companies looking for specific site requirements and it's our role to respond to those leads and 21 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:55,360 so christina davis manages our r5 proposals um so she submitted a site in ditten and from there the 22 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:01,120 company ended up wanting to move to ditten so they were still and they're still considering other 23 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,720 cities and they do have different advocates but they're pretty much finalizing um a building here 24 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,840 but i'm going to pass this christina davis she's a primary project manager and she'll present the 25 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,840 presentation and i do want to mention that juan carlos ruiz an engineering manager for panel rate 26 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,480 is here as well as elliot christy he's the electrical design chief staff so thank you 27 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,120 for being here and they'll be prepared to answer questions right welcome 28 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,320 so christina davis business development administrator 29 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:53,840 so as as britney did explain a group of pro max is the parent company of panel ray 30 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:01,280 panel ray and group of chrome max is a family-owned 100 year old business they have 17 31 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,800 manufacturing facilities in house five countries and customers in 40 plus countries 32 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,440 and you can find their joint compound and drywall and more than 100 distributors in texas 33 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:21,680 this project will be panel race first compound manufacturing facility in the u.s. they were 34 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,240 attracted to denton due to our strategic location and the housing growth in north texas 35 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,760 they're considering a 60 000 square foot building for phase one of their expansion into the u.s 36 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,320 and this incentive would help to minimize the risk for entering this new market 37 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:43,760 this is a location that they're considering it's in the industrial area south of airport road it's 38 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:49,280 aligned here with the yellow and the pen mark there around the corner shelby lane and dakota lane 39 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:56,000 uh panel rays considering a 60 000 square foot building on shelving land they'll invest 40 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,800 2.7 million and renovating the building to manufacture the joint compound and the 41 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:09,760 improvements will include expansion of the electrical system installation of two silos 42 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:17,520 and manufacturing or covering the area to the east of the building with a 34 000 square foot 43 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:23,360 patio to protect the trucks for their loading and they plan to start manufacturing one shift 44 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,960 and they've gone to three shifts and what's interesting about their project is that 45 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,880 the construction or the the creation of the joint compound is completely enclosed 46 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:47,600 so review of the actual incentive application they are investing 15 million in capital investment 47 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:54,240 that includes uh purchase of the building 2.7 million will cover improvements so the improvements 48 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:02,400 of the patio the um the silos the electrical that'll be part of the improvements there and 49 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:08,240 then seven million will include improvements of bringing new personal business property 50 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,480 so equipment and specialized machines 51 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:16,480 we'll also create 20 new jobs 52 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:28,320 as their incentive the proposed incentive would be 60 percent of real property for five years 53 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:36,240 60 percent of business personal property for five years job-based grant for 11 qualified jobs for 54 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:42,320 four years and a one-time relocation grant of fifty thousand dollars for total estimated value 55 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:50,160 of 236 857 dollars in the lower table you see the investment in revenue so current valuation of the 56 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:58,880 property is 4.7 million the increased valuation is estimated at 9.7 and the total estimated valuation 57 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:06,240 will be 14.5 million as far as revenue the current city revenue for that property is twenty eight 58 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:13,200 thousand fifty two dollars the increase would be 56 thousand seven hundred eighty six and that's a 59 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:28,640 total revenue of eighty four thousand eight hundred thirty seven this slide outlines the jobs for this 60 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:37,200 project this job um hell ray will create 20 new jobs 10 year 10 and job 10 jobs in year one 61 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:44,960 five year five jobs in year two and five jobs in year four um in the highlighted the color 62 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:52,480 highlighted area identifies the 11 jobs that qualify for the jobs-based grant with a weighted 63 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,840 average salary of seventy two thousand seven hundred and thirty three the city's average wage 64 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:09,680 right now is 65 651 this shows the impact the economic impact for this project net benefits 65 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,480 less the incentive over 10 years to the city will be six hundred seventeen thousand dollars 66 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:22,160 to the county will be 241 000 to the school district 612 000 the payback period is two years 67 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:34,480 at a rate of return of 3.8 staff recommendation is a 60 rebate on new business and real property 68 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:45,360 taxes for five years for up to 170 357 a job-based grant up to 16 500 expansion grant 69 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:55,760 of 50 000 for total mattress a 236 837 dollars next steps if you approve the incentive would 70 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,120 be to go to city council with individual consideration on july 15 71 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:05,600 do you have any questions for myself or the representatives from pal ray 72 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,760 any questions 73 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,200 how tall is towers gonna be how tall are the towers gonna be 74 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:23,760 extruding out of the top of the building the silos this oh the silos yes 75 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,280 that's a good question maybe or juan carlos or la would you like to 76 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:44,800 the meters and meters 33 this one make sure they want to stick in that oh yeah stick up 77 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:51,280 for the airport i i could add that they did we did already have a pre-application conference 78 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,800 meeting with city staff to review um the changes they'd like to make to the to the building and 79 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:05,600 make sure they were properly zoned for things like to to to create here we all see any permitting 80 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:12,800 risk or anything like tceq wise that would potentially slow this project now just no one 81 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:18,320 about what we deal with i'm just curious so i know that staff we met with our environmental 82 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:24,160 services department um and so he recommended contacting tceq but for the most part i think 83 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,680 that there shouldn't be a concern but i think they're still in that process right now christina 84 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:34,160 do you want to add on to that yeah we've provided information for air permitting and the timelines 85 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:40,640 um environmental services was part of the pre-application conference and so their product 86 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:48,480 when it goes into the silo it's all transferred clean it's protected and then when it goes through 87 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,360 the production line and comes through the top and gets it's all enclosed to protect it because they 88 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,320 not only want to protect any dust from going out to the environment they want to protect their 89 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:05,040 product as well it's a room it's an unloading room the closure of the total unloading zone 90 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:11,200 from the truck it's a pneumatic vacuum from the truck to the silo and the height of the silo can 91 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:18,160 match and we can redesign only to match the correct height of the existing building that's another 92 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,400 way that we can make make i'm not i mean i'm i know you all engineer that i'm more concerned 93 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:30,000 about the do you have a permit by rule or something that makes sure it doesn't delay your project 94 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:38,320 that you can get any kind of tceq or just underneath any kind of limit for that it depends 95 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,160 on the product i mean i know we paint stuff so we have to worry about that so we don't have an 96 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:50,320 external issue that can that end the day the point is there any asbestos material used 97 00:11:50,320 --> 00:12:00,000 any asbestos material no sir no sir main main material is calcium carbonate and water 98 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:08,240 almost 90 percent of the product that is dry wood mode is is made of calcium carbonate powder 99 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:16,720 and and water and the final product is a mix of it so it's not dusty or it's like a somewhat 100 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,960 so what we posted their um side visit they showed us a video of their facilities in mexico and 101 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,880 they're really they look really clean and i expect the same thing at the facility um we did 102 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:36,160 gosh i forgot my thought go ahead sorry oh they have some of the largest contracts with the 103 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,880 largest construction suppliers in the country so even the largest homeowners would be our horton 104 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:49,920 as well do we know the impact that we think this will have to miami as far as revenue 105 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:56,080 um they did not meet the guidelines for growth rider 106 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:02,160 so it's lower impact okay how long is the lease 107 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,320 they'll be purchasing the building purchasing 108 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,200 that's good great did i see your presentation 109 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,800 20 positions we're looking at are the qualified but there's over subsequent below that 110 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:25,680 um so over the over the five-year period of the grant four years they'll be hiring staff so year 111 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:32,000 one two and four and out of those 20 positions 11 followed by for the grant gotcha um 112 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,720 is there projections beyond that as far as just job opportunities for the future 113 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,920 that the company has looked beyond in the five years we've just we've discussed expansion with 114 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,960 them and adding additional lines of products um at this location but apparently we're just 115 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,000 looking at phase one which is one line of the gypsum production but they would like to expand 116 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:00,560 here for their second and third lines uh maybe want to elaborate on carlos yes we will start with 117 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:07,520 one line of drywall more and expected to have a metal stock line and the following year 118 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:16,640 and having in a five-year period two more lines four metal stock lines and one slitter machine 119 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:23,600 that got the steel four dots uh metal stock lines so that is the that is the plan 120 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:31,520 we're going to use number is just for one drywall more time those expansions to fit in that 121 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:41,440 facility yes it marks in the same uh 60 000 square feet area two questions how did they 122 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:49,520 or us get familiar with them how did it come into the economic development referral yeah so 123 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,320 we received this lead from the state of texas um so what happens is when companies are looking to 124 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,920 move to texas in general they'll contact the state economic development division and they'll 125 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,640 wait list out and say we need um x not as our fleet we need when we buy a lease when we move 126 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,360 close to airport uh we receive those leads which i'll in my direct support i'll show you where we 127 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,120 capture the that data um and then christina and myself evaluate if we're going to respond or not 128 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:19,520 and so if we have an available site then obviously we want to submit that so that's how we um first 129 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,800 yes and then we they contacted us that was in january they contacted us in uh march for a site 130 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:30,000 visit so jamey came in and uh he owes to them as well we came in met with him toward around the 131 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,720 building uh met with our development services teams our workforce teams as well and that's 132 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,280 when they decided that they didn't want to move forward with it the same question on the in a 133 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,360 purchase situation or an existing building situation when you're doing your return on 134 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,480 investment are we just looking at the incremental tax revenue or the full revenue 135 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,000 look over a 10 year term so we have a head slide i think on this one we can show you 136 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,480 um i'm saying like right now the property is already on the tax rolls so are we just in the 137 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,840 return aspect of it are we just doing that as a baseline and everything above or are we doing the 138 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,640 full amount correct we we evaluate the improvements we also value with the new pp because what happens 139 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,480 i think the current owner um had a tenant and so they're both leaving right now so the tenant is 140 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,120 going to take their equipment so then therefore they're we're going to if we don't refill that um 141 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,280 uh the lease then we'll leave that on the vpp because they're taking their equipment 142 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,200 and so with them coming on board then we're retaining the vpp but also probably adding 143 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,840 a little bit more this is personal property okay and get that for equipment i'm talking about the 144 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,120 real estate the real estate is going to be there either way on the textiles are we including that 145 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,240 in return or are we not we are with improvements though because that will be an additional ad valorem 146 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:48,800 valuation added the third column of the bottom table the estimated increase in valuation that's 147 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:55,280 should be entered into the model correct right so the first line here is the current land value 148 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:00,640 but we didn't add any increase to that on the current land we we captured the improvements 149 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,480 in the vpp yes you have thank you okay sorry 150 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,480 when does the new business property property tax 151 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:21,760 basement kick in that's uh it goes up to what 125 000 i don't know what it is now but it's going up 152 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,600 at some point that was just passed when does that kick in and and when do we update our formulas 153 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:36,160 yes that's a good question i think any of those new legislative items will come into effect maybe 154 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,200 in september right scott i'm asking our attorneys yeah yeah september first i'm not sure what the 155 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,040 what the amount of the exemption i'm not sure either i want to say for i've heard small business 156 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,400 i don't know if it's all for commercial property or not i'll have to do some more research i'll do 157 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:58,000 some digging what's the new law it's uh it goes up to 125 000 that you can uh you can get waived on 158 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,480 your probably using the wrong vernacular but you can get waived on your taxes and then if 159 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,520 you're if your business property tax property taxes are under 125 000 total you don't even 160 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:15,120 have to file but it's above that seven million to six million a 25 if my understanding is right and 161 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:21,680 if to her point if it applies universally to all business property personal property tax but i do 162 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:29,360 believe it does but that's outside looking in is that a safe deal yes so just so he signed it but 163 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:34,640 then there's there's a two steps i guess there's the governor signing it and i think that makes it 164 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:43,840 active current whatever timeline and then there's where it gets codified into the uh that i yeah the 165 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,760 i'm gonna say chart because that's the vernacular i'm used to them most bills passing the state 166 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,680 legislator take back september the first unless specifically later got there you go some of them 167 00:18:53,680 --> 00:19:00,000 have the rider that if it's passed by more than two-thirds or whatever it comes to thank them unless 168 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,640 so yeah i would just forward it for you i just want to because if we're planning to out years it 169 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,520 certainly ended applies i just want to make sure that's captured and we're we're tracking 170 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,080 all right any other questions for the gentleman from panel rate 171 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:22,240 any other questions about this topic if not can i get a motion to recommend approval 172 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:28,800 uh for recommendation to city council for approval for an incentive agreement for panel rate as 173 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:37,600 presented i got a motion from lee ramsey and i got a second by leo did i give you a second leo 174 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:43,840 morales on a second any further discussion on this item just want to say thank you for being here 175 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:50,480 appreciate it thank you thank you all all right hearing no other further discussion can i ask 176 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:59,280 that question yeah how many how many different cities areas did you look at in texas well not 177 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:05,840 in texas but in another in other states okay in texas uh we're looking for the big from the beginning 178 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:15,280 for them okay and what what drew you to then what made you take them in texas we supply south of texas 179 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:21,680 from another plants so this market uh we don't cover we don't have coverage of this market in 180 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:30,240 north texas or oklahoma or arkansas so that's why denton is a is the perfect site and logistic wise 181 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,680 manufacturing wise and obviously uh the building that we were looking for thank you 182 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:45,680 all right hearing no other discussion i'll call the vote all those in favor please say aye aye 183 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:52,080 any opposed say nay hearing none motion passes 184 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:58,320 so we've got how many i got i got to have do i got to say the numbers 185 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,840 don't want us to do that okay that was unanimous all right it's unanimous 186 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 thanks again thank you all again welcome 187 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:20,480 all right next we're going to move to our working session i'll call item a adp 188 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:29,600 25-020 receiving various staff reports first i'm going to hear about water infrastructure from 189 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:44,160 you good morning i'm kyle pentel uh planning and engineering division manager for water utilities 190 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,280 and i'm filling in for steven gay today um so i'm here today to provide some insight into how the 191 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:56,800 utility plans for and addresses infrastructure need uh for the btj so as a water rights holder 192 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,720 the city of denton interacts with the regency water planning committee our involvement hopes 193 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,920 ensure that the regional water plan reflects a broad range of interest and accurately addresses 194 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:14,160 water needs across the region so as far as the utility service area currently the utility serves 195 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:21,840 around 171 000 people through 45 000 utility service connections and our current water usage 196 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:28,480 ranges from 18 to 42 million gallons per day that 18 number is what we utilize in winter which 197 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,560 doesn't take into account any outdoor water and irrigation and the 42 million gallons per day are 198 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:45,040 the demands that we see on average throughout the summer so that more utilities is prioritizing 199 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,760 its uh extraterritorial jurisdiction so the area outside the city limits but within the planning 200 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:56,160 authority to safeguard its watershed we safeguard the watershed by following addressing the following 201 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:03,120 risks within our planning efforts so water risks within the tga include supply and so do we have 202 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:10,080 enough water to accommodate our projected growth dependence on wells how do the plan wells impact 203 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:16,400 the groundwater table what happens if and when they dry up our water quality what sources or 204 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:23,360 development cause can contamination within our surface waters some wastewater risks include 205 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:29,520 the proliferation of packaged plants so how do these plants are these plants managed and regulated 206 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:37,440 and to ensure that they don't cause any downstream impact our stream and river water quality so how 207 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,880 do the varying wastewater discharges affect our local streams and rivers and our reuse supplies 208 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,880 how do we maintain our water rights by through a robust reuse program by maintaining access to that 209 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:58,320 so a common entity that we work with in the etj is the municipal utility district or mud 210 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240 muds are created to help provide infrastructure to a specific development 211 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,080 area and can annex into the city following the repayment of bond funding 212 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:15,440 so this is a map and list showing the muds that we're either working with or that we're aware of 213 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,680 within the etj so you can see there's heavy development interest in areas surrounding them 214 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,920 so how ultimately how will this impact city water utility so accounting for the 215 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,760 known muds by build up the city's population will be increased by roughly 110 000 people 216 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:44,400 that's roughly a 65 percent increase compared to today's population so that increase directly 217 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:57,120 influences the amount of infrastructure that the utility must plan for and construct so 218 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:04,560 this infrastructure can either be localized or regionalized if the water utility doesn't address 219 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,520 this on a regional basis then we need to deal with the widespread impacts of localization 220 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,120 so this map shows the existing and planned regional water reclamation plants in green 221 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:21,440 the existing local water reclamation plants in white and the current proposed local water 222 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,000 reclamation plants in yellow and blue depending on their phase of development so compared to the 223 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,800 surface water intakes shown in purple near each lake you can see that localized approach to 224 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,480 wastewater treatment introduces many variables that can have regional impacts on our water column 225 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,480 since everything flows downstream 226 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:51,280 this chart is a comparison of the regional versus local approach 227 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,920 approach it is just one of the tools that we use in our planning efforts when we approach our 228 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,480 infrastructure like that 229 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:07,040 so denton implemented the mud policy in 2022 which sets goals and conditions for the creation 230 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,760 and operation of mugs it provides a framework for development agreements and establishes 231 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:18,560 preferences for utility and emergency services services open spaces financial stability and 232 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:24,080 future annexations this benefits the city by creating a full service utility that aids in the 233 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,160 development of future infrastructure streamlines our development agreements 234 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,880 by ensuring that mugs are built to the city standard for infrastructure which helps with the 235 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,280 future annexation 236 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:43,280 this is a basin map outlining the individual drainage basins within the city 237 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,320 and the location for the existing and proposed water reclamation facilities in our 238 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:54,400 as you can see we have three drainage basins which necessitates the construction of three 239 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,760 regional water reclamation facilities currently we have our existing facility is shown with the 240 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:07,760 concrete basin green and then the two proposed facilities are associated with the northern and 241 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:14,480 western drainage bases these are the main drivers behind our utility planning effort 242 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:22,880 so the infrastructure plan is shown here pulled from the 2023 wastewater master plan which was 243 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,560 adopted last year and the 2024 water master plan which is set to be adopted in august of this year 244 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,520 the wastewater master plan is currently posted on the water utility website website and the 245 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:42,240 water master plan will also be adopted these maps are they follow a common color coding system 246 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,400 throughout the master plans with everything shown in red to be planned to be constructed within the 247 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,440 zero to five year time frame everything in blue to be constructed in the five to ten year and 248 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,800 everything in green to be constructed within the 25 year time frame and figured i'd open it up to 249 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:10,480 any questions on infrastructure development i'll just make a comment is you know i'm i'm really 250 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,520 happy we do a lot of development a lot of different cities and the city of denton i believe is doing a 251 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,240 pretty good job before thinking with the muds and i'm a mud fan right because i think it helps with 252 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,600 future infrastructure costs and over time and and the city i think has done a good job looking at 253 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,160 how instead of just saying no we're washing our hands because if they're going to happen because 254 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,760 they're out of the city's control i think the city then has done a good job of saying okay let's go 255 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:46,080 ahead and figure out how to expand and get utilities here because it's a bigger picture than no we don't 256 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,640 want muds like some cities doing just don't do anything red instead they say okay how long term 257 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,760 we know we're investing in our city what does this look like so that we can get those utilities to 258 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,600 those areas so that we're looking at that considering that looking at the pros and cons i think it's 259 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,520 positive so thank you for bringing that now for most people it doesn't happen fast enough 260 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,640 but it takes time right so i think it's very good we're looking at what areas of our city needs to 261 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:26,000 grow and one question i do have when prioritizing which lines go in first is part of that looking at 262 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:33,520 economic development of what's the most potential growth in what areas does that put a priority of 263 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:39,680 what projects we do first so the economic impact is to prioritize through the development services 264 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:46,000 group they investigate that from the utility we're primarily focused on the conveyance 265 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,440 infrastructure so what it takes to get water there it takes to transport wastewater away 266 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,400 our water rights do we have enough water to serve how are we looking how are we going to 267 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,640 manage this growth and then our treatment capacity so those are our primary drivers on 268 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:07,040 water and wastewater master plan i would just say you know looking at our growth patterns you know 269 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:13,920 because water and sewer drive growth patterns ultimately right looking at the growth patterns 270 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:21,120 and what vacant land that is not affected by floodplain not affected by you know access and 271 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:28,000 those things and meet with economic development to try to come together and say okay if we put these 272 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,640 lines in in these areas we think our return is going to be quicker because of the growth 273 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,480 happening in those areas and we're kind of doing that with the mud districts because we have to 274 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:47,280 but even future projects i think it would be good to work with the city planning and then to prioritize 275 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,240 those projects so that we can get a quicker return on these investments so that would just be a 276 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,440 recommendation and where do we want the city to grow because we put water and sewer that's where 277 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,360 it's going to grow you know and so i think it would be good to collaborate between economic 278 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,640 development seated in planning and water utilities which i understand is hard to get everybody get 279 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,440 but to say where are we going to spend the city dollars because if we put them in the right spots 280 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,200 the return is going to be way faster western boulevard is the perfect example you know you 281 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:29,680 put a water line in out there in a road through it turns and boom i mean it blew up so that would 282 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:39,280 just be my only add it's make that problem great yeah thank you any other questions oh rick several 283 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,640 years ago city owned the water rights to cooper lake up by salt springs and we sold that to urban 284 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,160 number of years ago of course they had to build the pipeline to put it in louisville we could still 285 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,480 use that water as if we owned it there and then put it back in louisville and use it again 286 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,840 are we looking for those kind of opportunities still further away right now we're looking for 287 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,480 water rights and we'll reconfirm them so our two primary sources are surface water through lake 288 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,080 louisville and surface water through lake ray roberts we're the minority water rights holders 289 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:19,520 at allison both of those lakes but uh that's that's a big part of our planning is putting these 290 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,240 putting the growth protections together and then really determining how much how far we can save 291 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,400 the conservation and where we can expand so we're looking at it we're turning over every rock right 292 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,920 now i hope we find some way and i know that you know tom hart rule was very involved in securing 293 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,160 the water rights through the years he and ray roberts but i don't think the city really 294 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:50,880 understands how important that was in 1950 yes but we do not we need to honor those two people 295 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,040 did we get anything out of uh i know uh opportunity and all that did they have all 296 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,920 the rights for the boat ark lake and all the new ones up north i know that was before my time here 297 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:13,360 negotiation discussions on that i know that we are looking through what was written down right now 298 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,480 to see where the water rights are jimmy do you have a question 299 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:28,400 on the with economic development where development is planning to go where do you see the biggest gaps 300 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:37,440 in water to service those areas in the next five years from a timing of when you think new lines 301 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:44,080 are going to come online where's the kind of the hot spot of need and that's kind of what whenever 302 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,480 i brought up having a plan for waters try to find out what excess capacity is in certain areas 303 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,280 and then where the demand are you kind of overlay those do you have any idea of where that is so that 304 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,200 obviously people on council can try to see if there's resources we can put toward that to try 305 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,640 to fix it in the next five years appropriate answer i'm sorry we're an appropriate answer 306 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:14,480 not really no um so so really the focus right now is on the north uh kind of the north section 307 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,200 the clear creek basin if you go back here um the clear creek basin so working in the hickory creek 308 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:32,080 um basin we're working with 100 100 development and we're pursuing different methods of getting 309 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:38,080 the infrastructure out there the clear we're uh we're pursuing for wastewater our clear creek 310 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:45,360 interceptor uh which is currently in design which would open up that whole basin the entire blue uh 311 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:52,480 good a good section of it through center the basin to wastewater service and then the uh 60 inch 312 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,880 extension from the ray roberts water treatment plant or water yeah water treatment plant at the 313 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:05,680 south end of ray roberts along to the west there that would uh open up as well that's our we're 314 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:13,200 really looking to partner with mugs to partner you know to partner um with developers to 315 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,200 accelerate that infrastructure growth so i'm saying capacity is probably an issue in uh 316 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,960 hunter and coal ranch probably is handling the southern part of the hickory creek that's helping 317 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,720 to open it up so working with hunter and coal ranch bringing those those interceptor lines for 318 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:33,280 your sewer and bringing the water lines out there helps to open up the rest of that area even the 319 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:40,400 farther north the far north area of hickory creek um not as much the far north but there are we are 320 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:47,200 showing a loop on the water here in red we're showing a 30 inch loop to come around that we're 321 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:58,480 working with smaller mugs what where's that at it's uh on the right hand map map on the north side 322 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,200 that 30 inch um okay comes north 380 and then crosses 380 over south of chrome okay so on that 323 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:12,000 previous map the clear creek extends further north up to apply milo kind of that area yeah the water 324 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,000 so water and wastewater we approach a little bit differently so with water since it's all 325 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,280 pressure-based we don't have to worry about drainage basins so water is i don't want to say 326 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,040 easier to extend but you don't have the gravity drainage considerations so that's more of a 327 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,640 sig-wide approach with our wastewater we have to really narrow it down to development basically 328 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:40,320 developing developing the trunk line in the basin so that everything else so is there a is there a 329 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,920 plane in place right now to kind of tackle that northern whatever base we're talking about this 330 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,520 point the one yes yes so that's hickory creek sorry wait a minute you're talking two different 331 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,240 things did you say the clear creek's under design or the hickory creek's under design both of them 332 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,120 are so the hickory creek the the interceptors through the hickory creek are under design 333 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:07,840 through the hundred college operating agreements with them delivering those projects the clear 334 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:15,200 creek we're in designing through the city because we don't have that anchor yet we have development 335 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,320 you know we have constraints up there but we don't have that anchor to pursue 336 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:28,320 so a lot of the businesses that do come like through grittings department development they tend 337 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,280 to be airport and then a little bit north of that is what we're looking at at least i've been on for 338 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,040 about a year that's what i've kind of picked up so far uh so what is the kind of game plan for that 339 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,840 area because it looks like the higher call is going to accomplish more the southern the southern 340 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,560 but it stretches all the way up to that north to the northern the way the drainage basin works 341 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,760 to university or further okay there's some existing infrastructure out there right now 342 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:01,600 that pulls it what we basically do is we pull out of the hickory creek basin on that northern 343 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:08,000 section just off the crowd we pump it over the concrete basin what the hundred coal interceptors 344 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,040 do by by running the interceptor from the low end of hickory creek up it creates a gravity solution 345 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:22,400 which makes it much easier to connect into and so that that'll extend it'll keep extending up 346 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,160 all the way to three so on that map that you have with all the the planned stuff in the 30 347 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:35,520 30 inch that goes all around the loop um what's the timing on all of that to try to get it all 348 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:42,240 like to get in place that's a pretty forward looking graph right yeah so right now the timing 349 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:48,080 on all the with i think on this chart with all the red is within the five year window okay but 350 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:55,760 it's not it's a mixture of development through buds building you know extent extending 351 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,920 their off-site improvements to reach their need and then us taking it up after that and 352 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,720 city projects so it's a mixed thank you 353 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:18,160 go ahead um similarly the legislation's got to be approved in november one billion dollars a year 354 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,240 do you have a feel for what that looks like i guess it goes to the texas water fund do we do we have 355 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:30,400 are we i mean obviously it just passed so forward looking i'd like to know how we get involved in 356 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:36,400 those considering we're pursuing all basically every funding that's on the table through the 357 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,120 utility we're pursuing right now so we secured a swift loan from the texas water development board 358 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:50,560 last year for the expansion of the ray roberts water treatment plant we're working with livia 359 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:58,800 so the water infrastructure finance act through the federal government to secure funding for our 360 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:06,000 entire capital plan and then we're also submitting interest to the texas water development board for 361 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,440 our other large dollar some plant expansions for pecan creek clear creek and hickory creek got it 362 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,960 and i think it would be productive because y'all are doing great work and i can envision another 363 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,240 slot that kind of captures these other things we're doing to be kind of proactive and so i'm 364 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,000 going to butcher it i'll let you fix it and if i'm not supposed to say it then just tell me i'm not 365 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:34,400 supposed to say it after i'm done but uh but i do want to give credit where credit's due because 366 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:40,160 their team has so there's uh what we're trying to do is prevent people from punching a whole bunch 367 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:47,680 of wells out in the etj and then also there's designated areas where the water flows to say 368 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,760 lake grapevine and so the team has reached out in those areas and said hey give us your runoff water 369 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,760 and we're going to run it back to like lewisville so we can get lewisville lake tj would get mad at 370 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,480 me run it to lewisville lake so that we can get credit for that so here's water that should have 371 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,880 gone flowed towards like grapevine that we're capturing sending to lewisville lake to then get 372 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,080 credits to be able to retrieve that water so real real creative thinking around that and so every 373 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,640 time we can do that that's net positive hundred percent like we never should have been in that 374 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:24,320 game and so they're to their point about getting creative and doing all things uh really really 375 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:30,880 proud of the work they're doing so how does the wells impact that water wells the water wells you 376 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,560 said the etj to eliminate water yeah so how does that impact well because they can punch down so 377 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,760 they can build a house only thing they need water for is fire stations and so we're trying to prevent 378 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,640 them from punching a bunch of wells because the water table is shrinking as is and there's no way 379 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,320 to monitor that no way to kind of control that and so what you try to do is get them on city water 380 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,120 so that we can control the flows we can kind of monitor we can do all those things and then they 381 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:04,960 also convey over land or towers etc etc so there's a trade-off and there's a monitoring component so 382 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,480 really it's that just to make sure we can have a feel for what the water table is doing and control 383 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,560 that versus just the wild west of people just drilling and because ultimately what happens is 384 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:22,320 their well fails and then it's a real big problem in the middle of nowhere there's not a property 385 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,080 rights issue on that no well basically what is you know you got bolivar water out there you got 386 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,920 mustang water you got these guys so they may have the ccn for that area and if they have the ccn for 387 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:41,360 that area we can go cut a deal with them and then put a put a well and tower in and be about 1200 388 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:48,640 feet apart for the north texas water district i think is right and so then you can if they get 389 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:56,240 the ccn so then you got all these wells out in the counties which is not necessarily a bad thing but 390 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:05,440 i believe overall long term it's better for a city that be using surface water than underground 391 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,200 storage water there will always be a balance of both but if you can get with the city's looking 392 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:17,120 ahead that mud district's going to spend like right now if you go to volatile water they're going to 393 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:22,640 charge you like 93 hundred dollars a tap for a capital recovery fee and they're going to go 394 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:28,800 drill a well and they're going to maintain that well and supply but really what it does overall 395 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:35,840 for the underground storage you don't really they have pretty good guesses right but they don't 396 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:42,080 really know if we can think ahead like we're doing and say bolivar will you do a joint agreement or 397 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,680 give up your ccns to the city of denton and we can use surface water for that it's way easier to 398 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,480 regulate that as far as how much usage is we do both in our development sometimes we go drill wells 399 00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:01,120 sometimes we work with the city but if i'm paying 93 hundred dollars a tap and i can go 400 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:08,160 apply those funds and the city's willing to apply funds and we can do a joint project long term 401 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,160 that's what i say long-term thinking if the city will put a little bit of money in 402 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,200 and the developers put money in to expand this infrastructure and the mud district can reimburse 403 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,280 that over time and the city gets it back over time that's a much better in my opinion long-term 404 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,600 approach probably some cities say we're not spending the dollar it's in their atj but the 405 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,280 state laws changed city dentons not necessarily taking that approach because who knows that's 406 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:39,120 gonna change one day you know it's not gonna be that way so this is different than like if i'm 20 407 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:46,240 acres out west of town and i want to put a water well for my house that's different that's what 408 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:51,360 you're talking about right no i'm talking about for subdivision like i'm putting 25 lots in same 409 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:57,040 thing because those are not for an individual like home property right okay right because those 410 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:03,440 are because they're getting so large there are other questions specifically for the water several 411 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:11,120 years ago both dams those bill and rey roberts were on the danger list are you satisfied with 412 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,920 coral engineers and unnecessary repairs to keep those from failing i believe so but i haven't 413 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,280 looked at that recently with the other folks on the infrastructure and loss of either one of them 414 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:31,120 it'd be devastating i mean what's the ccn he can answer it's who has the right to serve that area 415 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,360 that's the certificate of convenience and necessity so basically which utility has the right to serve 416 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:43,600 water or wastewater services in that geographic area you said something about 93 something dollars 417 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,880 for a tap well it's what is the capital recovery fee for some of these rural water districts it's 418 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:54,880 not city of denton it's if oliver if you're in their ccn they're going to charge you so much per 419 00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,720 tap to be able to get the drill their wells and this has to do with water because you know if we 420 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:07,360 can apply those funds to expansion you know to a city water that's much better use of those funds 421 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,200 one quick question is back to economic development and i know we got to move on all right we got one 422 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:19,120 less question one last question but again like i think we should definitely be working with planning 423 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,840 and look at what the zoning is in that area because you look at that clear creek up there 424 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,680 for the wastewater the zoning up there is five acre lots and so i think that's something we've 425 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,440 got to do we got to look at because there's not a lot of sewer required for five acre lots 426 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,920 obviously uh interesting topic to everybody so appreciate your uh coming and talking to the 427 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:51,360 board thank you again questions there for for that particular topic i'm gonna call uh for britney to 428 00:46:51,360 --> 00:47:01,440 give our director thank you thank you so much all right so it was a slower month for us but 429 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:08,560 it's just in this presentation we have a new newsletter for downtown called a dip downtown low 430 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,720 down um i know it's really exciting see some of your faces pretty cool title uh so this is an 431 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:19,440 upgrade from an email that staff was sending to the business owners and programmers downtown about 432 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,320 resources road closures whatever is going on around the city and a mainstream program um so chris and 433 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,200 matilda worked hard on putting this newsletter newsletter together we released the news on social 434 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:35,200 media and i think people are going to find it so pretty good um important update so this presentation 435 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,280 was planned for two weeks ago for the council meeting so some of it's back dated but twilight 436 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:44,800 tunes is officially over fortunately but um christen is still highly involved with the main street 437 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:51,440 program and the energy twilight tunes and um didn't june teeth just passed so we missed the date 438 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:58,480 unfortunately but we wanted to celebrate that um our partner visits collaboration staff into the 439 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,480 stokes flint conference and the edp quarterly forum and we attended the unt jim mcnaught institute 440 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:12,640 for logistics research um presentation farhan but our transportation manager and myself presented 441 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:18,640 um our department information to the faculty at unt in this department really to discuss research 442 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:24,400 and development um collaboration opportunities and from this meeting um farhan is now collaborating 443 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,880 with unt on a u.s department of transportation grant proposal that he submitted today actually 444 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,320 it's called an advanced air mobility grant and so this will allow us if we are able to 445 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,000 get a vertiport this will allow us funding up to if rewarded two million dollars for a vertiport 446 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,600 so that was a good uh meeting following business town hall so christen put together our uh this 447 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,640 meeting to collaborate with the downtown business owners um so as you can see in the bottom right 448 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,720 picture um there's a few business owners quite a few business owners actually that are involved 449 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:03,040 um with halloween and they're looking at creative ideas to celebrate during the month of october 450 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,200 um and we also did in the public libraries reference solutions training 451 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:14,880 so here are our may recruitment stats we currently have 27 active projects in the pipeline um out of 452 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,080 the pipeline that's a little over close to 4 000 potential jobs and 4.5 billion in capital investment 453 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:26,320 um we had during the month of may we had two new leads um one that was from a broker and one was 454 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:33,120 direct and then we had one incentive applications and so the way that we um title or kind of define 455 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,640 leads is those are serious prospects are wanting to move in because everyone has a different 456 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,800 definition so that's why sometimes it seems low we get general requests all the time that we're 457 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,480 starting to track as well so we report that out um so under the active product stage we have quite 458 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,000 a few in the lead stage that will stay there um we have five that are waiting application but they 459 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,560 have told us that they do want to submit an incentive application so those are in the queue 460 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:02,080 um one that we're processing right now and then um two that are in the standard negotiation process 461 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,840 um and three that are in the board approval so we didn't have any recruitment business during the 462 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,200 month of may and we actually lost two leads um so one did not make the incentive qualifications 463 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,080 for our top of the rating policy um they already had applied for a commercial permit alterations 464 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,800 permit um so they're already here we plan to send them off to the chamber because they want a grand 465 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,680 opening ribbon cutting so um that's a really good company i don't know if i'm allowed to share it but 466 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,880 yet but um unfortunately we consider a lead loss because they were not going to move forward with 467 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,160 themselves um the other one chose another location i believe they chose the city of lewisville um 468 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:43,200 they were looking at a site a warehouse space in denton and if you talk to the broker you'll get a 469 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,920 different story from what their business owner said so but they ultimately chose lewisville but 470 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,360 we actually had processed their incentive proposal we had it on the uh cube agenda to propose to uup 471 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:59,840 but they ended up choosing lewisville for the downtown stats uh christen have four business 472 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,360 for change and expansion visits and six downtown reinvestment grant leads and that's specifically 473 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:12,400 for through tours one um and then she we held the tours one meeting in may and the board approved 474 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,600 the tours one annual report um and then we also had a public improvement district informal staff 475 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,160 report that was released so those you may recall that we met with property owners in the downtown 476 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,240 area to discuss the potential of creating a public improvement district and many of the property 477 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,560 owners turned it down they didn't want to move forward so we released an official release so if 478 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:36,720 you're curious to see that we can send it to you as well so here's where we track our request for 479 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:41,200 information stats and these are the leads from the state and the dallas regional chamber this is how 480 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:47,120 we got panel right um so for the month of may we received five we submitted seven we did not submit 481 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:53,760 on one uh probably because we meet some criteria um but we didn't have any lead conversions um so 482 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,640 from the dallas regional chamber we received two and three from the governor's office um so within 483 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:04,320 that pipeline it's a total of 47.5 million dollars in average capital investment and 270 average 484 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,880 jobs um so for the year the calendar year we submitted total 35 RFIs so sometimes those 485 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,880 numbers don't add up as well for submitted into uh and no submittal because the due dates sometimes 486 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,760 go into a different month so those numbers may not add up to the total RFIs received 487 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,440 music and film till then 488 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:35,760 so this is the presentation for may so we have two permit issues in april and one in may 489 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,120 even though this just happened this weekend the state film incentive passed 490 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:49,600 that's 300 million every session or 125 million each year for the next 10 years for a total of 491 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:58,480 1.5 billion in incentives for film in the state of texas you may recall american idol was on the 492 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:06,320 square we had a big parade concert um and then council member melchor is not here anymore but 493 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:14,640 his uh documentary uh premiered at thin line film festival and then a local family documentary was 494 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:21,600 nominated for an emmy recently uh and then finally i've just been working on some film marketing 495 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,880 knowing that this incentive might pass uh you may have gotten an email from me saying submit your 496 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:34,400 location if you're a property owner or if you want to uh we have a database of different locations 497 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:41,200 on the state's website so a film production could come and make like a rental agreement with you 498 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:47,280 basically to use your home or your business or whatever your property that you own um so 499 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,840 i've been making some marketing materials to distribute that to location professionals 500 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:59,360 and then lastly um economic development and discovery went on a music venue tour to harvest 501 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:07,200 house and then also to steve's wine bar as their uh music venue that received the texas music 502 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:17,440 incubator we made last year thank you any cool sites to share let us know the last home permit 503 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,960 that came in they were looking for a 1930 style ranch house right um and so we were like we're 504 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,680 gonna find one so we called a few folks i don't know if we ever found one but there's they're 505 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:34,480 always looking for unique sites all right council updates um council approved the mayday manufacturing 506 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:40,400 consent and proposal so congratulations board um and the catalyst fund item pass that was jill 507 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:46,320 jester's uh two minute pitch so that ended up passing last council meeting as well so congratulations 508 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:53,600 board events we held a foreign trades on webinar yesterday and we had 12 attendees total including 509 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,800 staff i think there were like five seven company representatives um from what i hear it went well 510 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:05,520 and um i attended the bio international conference in boston last week um that was a new experience 511 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,000 for me i went alongside the dallas regional chamber who hosted the booth that was their booth in the 512 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,400 picture um in several cities in the dfw went as well as let's see dallas plano desoto and arlington 513 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,760 um so we got a few leads and i wanted to really explore if that's this is going to be opportunity 514 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:27,920 for didn't so unt has a biomedical engineering degree program that um we can definitely 515 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,560 collaborate on but there may be potential to explore creating wet lab space for some of the 516 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,320 research and development or just general companies in the life science space um in denton uh desoto 517 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,440 and plano they're both building spec office space and lab space for life sciences and so 518 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,240 um i would like for our board to get to a spot where we're kind of creating and this vision for 519 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:52,320 the future of denton and what we want to specialize in because i think that will create a separate set 520 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:59,600 of jobs that we're used to seeing and we got a proclamation for steve edgar former chairman 521 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,000 um we wanted to celebrate him and his efforts i think he served on the board for six 522 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:10,560 six years six years um so just so you know brian you'll get to have a proclamation of city council 523 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:20,400 too but we understand that this is a time consuming for you it's a lot to come out every 524 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:26,160 month but we really do support we appreciate all of your efforts and that is it any questions 525 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,120 on the house fund that was passed that council there was a discussion here first at a lesser 526 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:40,000 percentage or 100 what was the i think we decided 100 we're gonna put erica uh basically that it 527 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,880 will be evaluated annually correct budget process that it could be a portion of all 528 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,920 but the first year 100 or whatever it would be up to the council to decide that we will present 529 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:57,120 the full value and then they can decide that it's based on budget appropriations and councils review 530 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,560 and will be every year okay so when's the first review of that we did it for 10 years but i did 531 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,760 it for 11 with ordinance we could do it to make sure we could do it this year 532 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:16,320 on the unt and the labs is there have been any leads conversations of is it just a thought 533 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:22,080 right now or is there actually some substance to possibly move that direction so the murphy center 534 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,920 it's the unt's entrepreneur center they have indicated that they have startups originating 535 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:35,040 at unt's their research division that would like wet lab space so um you know i learned a lot of 536 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,480 well i learned a lot i don't know if i can repeat it because i probably already forgot but um i think 537 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:45,040 there's opportunity there and we're going to explore so jll i think they're building 538 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:50,400 it's a commercial brokers firm they're building in plano right now so i want to pick their brand 539 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,440 see if that's potential for um didn't because if so then we can definitely maybe recruit some of 540 00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:02,000 those companies into but we had it earlier this year we had a medical device manufacturer um that 541 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,120 toured didn't and that came through their dallas reno chamber so that kind of got us thinking well 542 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,640 maybe this is an avenue that we should explore i do think we have stronger industries that we 543 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:17,280 should focus on uh but i think this is additional that we can capitalize in the future stronger 544 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,800 the question is if you pivot and you already have the foundational structure how quickly can you 545 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,840 pivot how quickly can you attract it so i don't know much about the wet labs and what the requirements 546 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:34,000 are but uh just just i guess focusing very little bit i'm saying what is there and how far up you 547 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:40,640 got so i like it i mean what yeah i think kind of what you're getting i'll give you an example the 548 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:47,520 word we have a headwind here that's pretty significant for for manufacturing and that's 549 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:55,120 that we're in a zero attainment epa zone being in dfw area so that means that if you're considered 550 00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:02,000 a major emitter so over 25 tons of knocks per year that you are going to have to be subject to 551 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:08,400 federal review which could be a three to six year process so if you're trying to get businesses in 552 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:16,560 here that could fall under federal review that goes to the that goes to the nation it goes to 553 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:24,160 the epa so one of the things like the opportunities we got to talk about is you know a wet lab space 554 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:29,360 they wouldn't fall into that category so that might be something we want to look at as we're 555 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:37,040 exploring because that environmental cap is only going to get lower so two years ago it was 50 556 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:43,040 tons per year now it's 25 so they they are strategic yeah very we have to be strategic 557 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:49,520 about what types of that's kind of why i asked the question in in lat like how much 558 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:57,040 emissions or are you going to grow to because that's going to actually limit your amount of 559 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:03,280 growth that you can do just by the fact that you're in dfw because because if we highlight 560 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:08,160 low emissions it still gives us the opportunity of growth on other industries that are not as 561 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:14,080 forgiving on that because we load it lightly at the beginning yes always sandbag at the end 562 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:19,040 for some of the other competitors in this this area they're already maxed out they're having to 563 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,120 manage that at a whole different level we have the opportunity to look at and say okay it might not 564 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:30,880 be in our line of sight right now but is a great strategy for collecting now and later i like it 565 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,520 we cannot we can definitely add it to our strategy so we still want to hold a whole day a board 566 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,480 retreat we um as you know you may see in the news that the city's having financial concerns or 567 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:46,240 re-availing in our operating budget um so i think that we can probably move forward with a board 568 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:52,960 retreat uh we want to get a facilitator facilitator and to lead it so but these are great ideas and i 569 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:58,800 think i've never considered that constraint brian and leo but i think the retreat would be a good 570 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:09,040 by the way to discuss this i think i think we kind of need to dfw and houston areas are non-attainment 571 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:16,000 epa areas for the state of texas so we just need to be sensitive to that as we recruit and hopefully 572 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,160 i mean to be honest when that comes from the state they should hopefully be pushing things 573 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:26,960 to us that don't violate that but we don't need to be spending a lot of bandwidth in my opinion 574 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:33,040 recruiting someone who at the end of the day will say the tcqs and go well we really want you in 575 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,360 denton but it's going to take six years so they're going to go somewhere else so it's just something 576 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:48,000 that we need to be cognitive that's helpful all right um are you going to cover for future agenda 577 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:56,800 items sure yes just things not here yeah all right so we may potentially have two projects to bring 578 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:04,000 them before you project loom and project footprint and potentially project recharged um we will 579 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,160 discuss the rfi overview which will detail some of the leads that we are getting here from the 580 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:15,280 state and the drc and i think this would be a great opportunity to expand on brian's statement 581 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,880 on which leads should we be responding to um and that is those two major items right now 582 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:29,440 okay so um we're going to move on to concluding items then does the board have any other business 583 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:37,280 to discuss for suggestions on what they wish to hear in the next meeting jeremy all right 584 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:49,680 i would like for staff to bring back an update on the utilities rates etc it's on the agenda 585 01:02:49,680 --> 01:03:01,680 as they're supposed to be yeah but it's to be determined like i'm saying we're having a 586 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,920 conversation now and i don't know what your utility bill is but i bet just more than the one person 587 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:16,240 that's driving the conversation in his house so we probably want to have some some input from 588 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:26,720 somebody that has more than 2000 square feet so yes i was this is a this is a hot topic for peter 589 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:33,440 bill so and you're using less energy and paying more money for it right now well in embassy suites 590 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:41,600 and all the but you know so what i'm saying is hear me a 2000 square foot house guy is driving 591 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:52,400 a conversation versus all the big users because we don't hear from you right i hear from you 592 01:03:52,400 --> 01:04:02,400 but we gotta we gotta so i need to raise the awareness to say hey don't don't miss this 593 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:10,560 opportunity to level set and and maybe us refocus on those that have more than 2000 square feet 594 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,600 driving conversations being active in those conversations think to your point and also as 595 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:21,440 you look at these impact fees that's a that's you go build a new factory now you're paying higher 596 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:26,720 rates and then to get your permit you're paying higher rates you gotta gotta look at that globally 597 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:32,720 because that's a those are they're about to be really big numbers and i think we got to look at 598 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:38,160 that as a whole utility package when they also the deposits yeah i think was what the original 599 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,960 original special was based on deposits uh but yeah needs to be discovered needs to be expanded 600 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,560 include all of this so if there's any if if i would say and i don't know i think we had that 601 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:55,760 conversation in july but i'm happy to say hey we're having this conversation in july but we're 602 01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,920 gonna you know send it to the to the board or send something out to the board earlier at least so 603 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:07,600 they know if we're hard set for that july conversation i don't know when that comes back 604 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:13,120 i'm just saying i'm passionate about making sure we get equitable responses versus 605 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:20,960 the offer also christina when you coordinate a schedule right now we currently don't have a 606 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,160 july meeting scheduled but we may need a special call meeting and we will reach out to you if 607 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:31,520 that's the case to push some of these projects forward a little bit sooner but for sure in august 608 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,440 we'll put it on the agenda and i'm not having just to be clear i'm not advocating for extra 609 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:44,640 meetings so we good but but you certainly can send an email saying hey city council is doing 610 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,440 these things as a follow-up to the you have everyone's email and then that that does the 611 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,520 same thing i just want people to be aware of and be active in those conversations all right sounds 612 01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:04,400 good on the topic of those low admissions as we're looking at the board retreat possibly or 613 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:09,920 even in the future can we identify where those type of industries are and you just start looking 614 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,560 just i mean this is not necessarily pressing us to get to the end of it just 615 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:20,080 start taking in that direction and going hey you know what are what are the low hanging fruit for 616 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,120 how to attend this position because i love their answer and i'm glad jeremy asked what brought you 617 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:33,120 here and and it's effectively uniquely placed for a huge distribution and so we can we can target 618 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:39,040 more efficiently some of those industries and if we come with the right mindset we can have a great 619 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:48,240 strategy okay we have uh so per about energy do we have consensus on that i think everybody 620 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:55,760 kind of agree i know i would agree to put that on a future item and then uh yeah for more board 621 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,400 retreat i think probably britney i need to get with you and get my environmental engineer kind of 622 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:08,480 educated up with you i think that's pretty complicated topic i think that would be a blast 623 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:14,560 it'll be fun i'll expose you to that so funny stories of corpus christi i had to dive into that 624 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,480 industry but they're actually in air attainment and they have all the refineries there isn't that 625 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:24,960 crazy well it's a problem it's an issue it's for us so we got to be smart because you can go right 626 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:30,640 up the road to gainsville and do the same thing that you do at peterville without putting any 627 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:37,280 emissions controls in literally 30 to 40 minutes up the road so it's it's an issue for them 628 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:48,560 something we need to be strategic about okay um so with no other future agenda items uh or anything 629 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:56,480 further to discuss um we got to go on to the next items because you are a member of the edpb you're 630 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:03,520 also member of the ters2 board please stay after this we do have a ters2 special call meeting which 631 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:10,640 take approximately 30 minutes uh just a reminder our next edpb meeting is scheduled to be on august 632 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:17,840 13th at 11 please let staff know if you're not able to attend the meeting and submit your notification 633 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:26,320 of absence now online anyone got to get closing items i would like to say that next meeting in august 634 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,840 is jeremy mike's birthday so we could get cake for that meeting as well 635 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:35,680 you need to hear about the budget short call 636 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,280 all right we'll close this meeting out then and we can open up with our 637 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:57,280 you want to we can adjourn this meeting and we've got 15 minutes till officially the next