WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.760 - Good evening. 00:00:02.760 --> 00:00:05.480 Welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.260 It is 5.02 and I call the meeting to order. 00:00:08.260 --> 00:00:09.320 My name is Tina Fergens 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:12.040 and I'm the Deputy Director of Development Services. 00:00:12.040 --> 00:00:14.200 In light of Chair Pruitt and Vice Chair Pedrone 00:00:14.200 --> 00:00:15.400 being absent this evening, 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:16.880 hence why I'm calling the meeting to order. 00:00:16.880 --> 00:00:18.880 Our first item of business, 00:00:18.880 --> 00:00:20.640 I should note that we do have a quorum present, 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:22.320 so thank you for that. 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:24.000 I should note our first item of business 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:25.360 for the work session agenda 00:00:25.360 --> 00:00:28.240 is under item for individual consideration. 00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:32.280 Item A, PZ25-132, elect an acting chair 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:35.360 for the Planning and Zoning Commission's June 11th meeting. 00:00:35.360 --> 00:00:38.720 So the person that will serve as the acting chair 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:40.920 for this meeting will serve for both work session 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.320 and the regular meeting. 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.980 So if there is a motion to nominate a commissioner 00:00:45.980 --> 00:00:48.160 from those that are present to serve as that acting chair, 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:49.760 we'll receive that motion please. 00:00:49.760 --> 00:00:55.860 Oh, I'm sorry, Commissioner McDuff. 00:00:55.860 --> 00:00:56.700 - Yes, thank you. 00:00:56.700 --> 00:00:58.760 - To nominate Commissioner Riggs. 00:00:58.760 --> 00:01:01.420 - I will second that. 00:01:01.420 --> 00:01:04.680 - I'll second. 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.440 - Thank you, Commissioner Dyer as well. 00:01:06.440 --> 00:01:09.760 So with a motion and a second to nominate Commissioner Riggs 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:11.880 to serve as the acting chair, I will take a vote. 00:01:11.880 --> 00:01:13.560 All in favor, aye. 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:14.480 - Aye. 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:15.320 - All opposed? 00:01:15.320 --> 00:01:19.000 (all laughing) 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.080 Apparently you don't have a choice, so. 00:01:22.080 --> 00:01:22.920 Well, thank you. 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.240 So if you wouldn't mind grabbing your name tag 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:26.680 and come have a seat next to me, I would appreciate it. 00:01:27.700 --> 00:01:30.200 a little bit. - I love my partner. 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.200 - Don't stand there. (laughing) 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:49.640 - So we are here for Susan Cometon, 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.060 consent to the agenda items. 00:01:56.700 --> 00:01:59.580 So moving on to number two, citizen comments 00:01:59.580 --> 00:02:01.140 on consent agenda items. 00:02:01.140 --> 00:02:02.740 Do we have any citizen comments? 00:02:02.740 --> 00:02:07.300 Okay. 00:02:07.300 --> 00:02:09.940 Moving on to item three, clarification of agenda items 00:02:09.940 --> 00:02:11.860 listed on the agenda for this meeting. 00:02:11.860 --> 00:02:23.580 Okay. 00:02:23.580 --> 00:02:26.840 So then moving on, we're gonna do consider approval 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:29.780 of the Planning and Zoning Commission minutes. 00:02:29.780 --> 00:02:31.620 There any comments on that? 00:02:31.620 --> 00:02:37.020 - Any comment, please? 00:02:37.020 --> 00:02:40.860 Been reading minutes this week, 00:02:40.860 --> 00:02:44.600 so I was attuned to just a couple things. 00:02:44.600 --> 00:02:49.540 I don't see a page number, but just some suggestions. 00:02:49.540 --> 00:02:54.540 And on page one, following discussion, 00:02:54.540 --> 00:02:57.900 the commission's consensus. 00:02:57.900 --> 00:03:01.380 I think commissions is missing an apostrophe, 00:03:01.380 --> 00:03:04.880 and the consensus was as follows. 00:03:04.880 --> 00:03:06.700 Again, just editorial things. 00:03:06.700 --> 00:03:11.700 On the second page, I might suggest, 00:03:11.700 --> 00:03:17.900 we shared items on our Southeast Denton overlay district plan. 00:03:19.740 --> 00:03:22.620 And we gave input, we offered some suggestions, 00:03:22.620 --> 00:03:26.540 I might put, of other topics. 00:03:26.540 --> 00:03:30.260 We talked about other topics such as health and safety. 00:03:30.260 --> 00:03:31.920 We did talk about that. 00:03:31.920 --> 00:03:36.920 Eric Chair Pruitt did talk about several things. 00:03:36.920 --> 00:03:40.260 I'm just not remembering, but I do appreciate that. 00:03:40.260 --> 00:03:43.700 Encouraged continued public engagement. 00:03:43.700 --> 00:03:46.760 We did talk about that at length, I think. 00:03:46.760 --> 00:03:49.560 But we did say health and safety on that. 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.820 And those would be my suggestions. 00:03:53.820 --> 00:04:00.340 - So if there's a motion to that effect 00:04:00.340 --> 00:04:04.700 to make those changes, what I would ask is that maybe allow, 00:04:04.700 --> 00:04:06.760 actually, I'm thinking out loud. 00:04:06.760 --> 00:04:09.620 Let us go ahead and work on those further 00:04:09.620 --> 00:04:11.920 and bring those back to you at the next meeting 00:04:11.920 --> 00:04:13.460 so that we can update the minutes 00:04:13.460 --> 00:04:14.960 to include that information. 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:18.020 And then we'll have you take action on the minutes 00:04:18.020 --> 00:04:19.380 at your subsequent meeting 00:04:19.380 --> 00:04:21.300 so we can get those corrections noted. 00:04:21.300 --> 00:04:26.620 - Sounds good. 00:04:26.620 --> 00:04:28.940 Then. 00:04:28.940 --> 00:04:40.020 Okay, so moving on to the consent agenda. 00:04:40.020 --> 00:04:43.380 So we have, let's see, one, two, three, four. 00:04:44.660 --> 00:04:45.940 Five, six, we have six items. 00:04:45.940 --> 00:04:48.500 Are there any questions on the consent agenda items? 00:04:48.500 --> 00:04:59.500 Okay, hearing none. 00:04:59.500 --> 00:05:05.140 Okay. 00:05:05.140 --> 00:05:09.180 - I submitted some questions on DPP25-0002A. 00:05:13.900 --> 00:05:17.260 - Was staff gonna talk about those now 00:05:17.260 --> 00:05:19.020 or are we waiting on that? 00:05:19.020 --> 00:05:20.460 - We can address those now if you would like. 00:05:20.460 --> 00:05:22.580 I didn't know if you wanted to frame up your questions 00:05:22.580 --> 00:05:24.780 and then, and I think Ashley's prepared 00:05:24.780 --> 00:05:25.860 to be able to address them. 00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:28.860 - I mean, I'm okay, are we gonna talk about each one 00:05:28.860 --> 00:05:30.640 and then they can talk about it then? 00:05:30.640 --> 00:05:31.480 'Cause I'm okay with that. 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.540 It's gonna be right this second. 00:05:33.540 --> 00:05:35.280 - So what we can do, if there are no questions 00:05:35.280 --> 00:05:37.380 on any of the other items on the consent agenda, 00:05:37.380 --> 00:05:39.060 then we can go ahead and entertain your questions 00:05:39.060 --> 00:05:40.340 on that particular item D 00:05:40.340 --> 00:05:42.140 because it is on the consent agenda 00:05:42.140 --> 00:05:44.060 and Ashley's prepared to be able to address 00:05:44.060 --> 00:05:45.380 the questions that you had. 00:05:45.380 --> 00:05:46.220 - Okay, thanks. 00:05:46.220 --> 00:05:47.700 - You're welcome. 00:05:47.700 --> 00:05:49.680 Ashley, if you wanna summarize the questions 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:51.800 that Commissioner Dyer had provided. 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.180 - Good evening, Ashley Exit, Associate Planner. 00:05:55.180 --> 00:06:02.620 So these questions were over PP25-2, 00:06:02.620 --> 00:06:05.700 which is Churchill East, which is in a mud. 00:06:05.700 --> 00:06:07.220 To summarize the questions that I did, 00:06:07.220 --> 00:06:09.540 bring some visuals also. 00:06:09.540 --> 00:06:10.780 I know one of your questions 00:06:10.780 --> 00:06:14.260 was whether TCCI Churchill owns this other portion 00:06:14.260 --> 00:06:15.860 to the West and they do. 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:17.940 That will be called Churchill West. 00:06:17.940 --> 00:06:19.300 So that will also be developed, 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:20.980 that will actually be developed first 00:06:20.980 --> 00:06:23.400 and then they will develop this portion here, 00:06:23.400 --> 00:06:26.940 which is this plat, which is in the city of Denton's ETJ 00:06:26.940 --> 00:06:29.000 and this is in Ponder's ETJ. 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:30.380 So we won't be platting this 00:06:30.380 --> 00:06:33.380 and this is not part of the development agreement. 00:06:33.380 --> 00:06:34.780 And I know your other questions 00:06:34.780 --> 00:06:38.540 were this proximity to the loop. 00:06:38.540 --> 00:06:41.200 And let me make this bigger. 00:06:41.200 --> 00:06:43.080 I've tried to measure it here. 00:06:43.080 --> 00:06:45.460 So this is the subject property 00:06:45.460 --> 00:06:49.600 and then this black dotted line will be the future loop. 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.540 So it's approximately three miles 00:06:51.540 --> 00:06:54.740 to the loop from this property. 00:06:54.740 --> 00:06:59.320 And then 2449 is here to the South. 00:06:59.320 --> 00:07:03.980 And then this portion of 2449, that is in Ponder's ETJ, 00:07:03.980 --> 00:07:06.220 so that will be shown on the Ponder plat 00:07:06.220 --> 00:07:08.060 and it will be through them. 00:07:08.060 --> 00:07:09.580 - 'Cause that's Florence Road, correct? 00:07:09.580 --> 00:07:12.020 - Yes, so it's Florence to the South 00:07:12.020 --> 00:07:13.660 and that will continue as Florence 00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:16.980 as it goes to the North through this development. 00:07:16.980 --> 00:07:20.640 - So, 'cause just looking at the property 00:07:20.640 --> 00:07:23.580 when I was looking at all the information 00:07:23.580 --> 00:07:28.500 is it looks very landlocked, like it's not near a road, 00:07:28.500 --> 00:07:30.860 but then when you start looking at the plat, 00:07:30.860 --> 00:07:34.140 you can see that like Churchill's supposed to be there 00:07:34.140 --> 00:07:35.800 and I don't know if that's the one 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.260 that's going straight out to 156. 00:07:38.260 --> 00:07:40.560 But then I saw that some of them butted up again, 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.180 some of those lots are gonna butt up against Florence. 00:07:44.180 --> 00:07:46.520 And I didn't know like, 00:07:46.520 --> 00:07:50.000 it was hard to tell on the map 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:54.140 on both that East West Road 00:07:54.140 --> 00:07:58.140 that goes from the property out to 156. 00:07:58.140 --> 00:08:01.220 Right now, it looks like it might be a dirt road 00:08:01.220 --> 00:08:05.260 or a very narrow, if it is asphalt or concrete, 00:08:05.260 --> 00:08:06.740 it's very narrow. 00:08:06.740 --> 00:08:08.520 So that's why I was just kind of curious 00:08:08.520 --> 00:08:12.460 because I wasn't sure how many houses are gonna be in there, 00:08:12.460 --> 00:08:15.060 but knowing that the property to the West 00:08:15.060 --> 00:08:17.500 was also part of this development. 00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:19.540 That's a lot of homes. 00:08:19.540 --> 00:08:23.660 And we're all talking about the lack of infrastructure 00:08:23.660 --> 00:08:27.060 for these developments and what it does for the traffic 00:08:27.060 --> 00:08:30.140 and getting people to and from places 00:08:30.140 --> 00:08:33.380 and fire and rescue and just all that sorts of stuff. 00:08:33.380 --> 00:08:37.540 So do you know anything about like the roads? 00:08:37.540 --> 00:08:41.140 - Yeah, so their TIA is under review now, 00:08:41.140 --> 00:08:42.860 so it's not approved yet. 00:08:42.860 --> 00:08:47.860 But in that TIA, they do discuss reconfiguring certain roads, 00:08:47.860 --> 00:08:51.340 constructing turn lanes at certain roads, 00:08:51.340 --> 00:08:53.060 installing traffic signals eventually, 00:08:53.060 --> 00:08:55.700 and also tech stop maybe making improvements out here. 00:08:55.700 --> 00:08:57.020 The TIA is still under review, 00:08:57.020 --> 00:08:59.100 so those aren't final recommendations yet. 00:08:59.100 --> 00:09:00.740 But once those recommendations are final, 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:02.060 they will be shown in the civil 00:09:02.060 --> 00:09:03.900 and that will be approved before the final plaque 00:09:03.900 --> 00:09:05.680 comes before this body. 00:09:05.680 --> 00:09:08.900 - Do you know when the Denton side of this development 00:09:08.900 --> 00:09:10.400 is supposed to get started? 00:09:10.400 --> 00:09:13.980 I mean, I know you said the Ponder side's happening first, 00:09:13.980 --> 00:09:16.780 but have they given you a timeline on the Denton side? 00:09:16.780 --> 00:09:19.220 - It's a 10 to 12 year build out time. 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:20.060 - Okay. 00:09:20.060 --> 00:09:29.420 - Okay, any other questions? 00:09:31.700 --> 00:09:32.540 - All right, thank you. 00:09:32.540 --> 00:09:33.600 - Thank you. 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:04.780 (faintly speaking) 00:10:04.780 --> 00:10:07.940 - Okay, I'm getting coached over here, so. 00:10:07.940 --> 00:10:10.260 Okay, so we're gonna move on 00:10:10.260 --> 00:10:12.380 and the staff's gonna basically brief us 00:10:12.380 --> 00:10:14.060 on the different public hearings. 00:10:14.060 --> 00:10:18.620 And MPA 24-003 has been withdrawn 00:10:18.620 --> 00:10:20.580 and it'll be brought to us at a future date. 00:10:20.580 --> 00:10:24.280 So we'll move on to PDA 25-003. 00:10:30.260 --> 00:10:32.760 - Okay, all right, thank you, Mia. 00:10:32.760 --> 00:10:36.780 - Good evening. 00:10:36.780 --> 00:10:41.680 Members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner. 00:10:41.680 --> 00:10:43.340 This item is a plan development amendment 00:10:43.340 --> 00:10:45.280 to establish some special sign standards 00:10:45.280 --> 00:10:48.140 within our four-way development located 00:10:48.140 --> 00:10:52.300 at the southeast corner of Vintage Boulevard and I-35W. 00:10:52.300 --> 00:10:55.540 The proposed site, site plan for the site 00:10:55.540 --> 00:10:59.860 and this travel center was approved in 2024. 00:10:59.860 --> 00:11:02.580 And now they are coming back to do 00:11:02.580 --> 00:11:05.140 or establish some special sign standards 00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:09.100 as one of the signs that they are proposing 00:11:09.100 --> 00:11:10.220 does not meet the code of ordinance 00:11:10.220 --> 00:11:13.660 and they are proposing to add some limitations 00:11:13.660 --> 00:11:17.980 that are not, or would otherwise be, 00:11:17.980 --> 00:11:19.580 for some things that would otherwise be permitted 00:11:19.580 --> 00:11:20.940 within the didn't sign code. 00:11:20.940 --> 00:11:23.760 And so staff is recommending approval 00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:27.540 as the request does meet all the criteria for approval. 00:11:27.540 --> 00:11:30.380 And I do have a lengthier presentation 00:11:30.380 --> 00:11:31.360 for the regular session, 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.300 but I'd be happy to provide any answers 00:11:33.300 --> 00:11:35.500 to any questions that you have at this time. 00:11:35.500 --> 00:11:39.660 - Are there any questions? 00:11:39.660 --> 00:11:44.100 All right, thanks, Mia. 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:46.260 - Sorry, I do have one on this. 00:11:46.260 --> 00:11:51.860 Mia, good work on everything, by the way. 00:11:51.860 --> 00:11:56.420 Just a question on the public outreach here. 00:11:56.420 --> 00:11:57.340 - Yes, ma'am. 00:11:57.340 --> 00:12:02.220 - It seemed to me that all of the public outreaches 00:12:02.220 --> 00:12:05.560 were done around Memorial Day holiday. 00:12:05.560 --> 00:12:12.340 How long are we required to do, 00:12:12.340 --> 00:12:14.700 do we have to do a public outreach? 00:12:14.700 --> 00:12:17.220 - I believe it's 14 business days 00:12:17.220 --> 00:12:21.040 for us to publish in the newspaper and post it. 00:12:21.040 --> 00:12:24.620 That's pretty the pretty standard practice that we have. 00:12:24.620 --> 00:12:28.020 - Yes, I just did as a comment, a shared comment. 00:12:28.020 --> 00:12:30.820 I thought that was pretty close to the Memorial Day holiday. 00:12:30.820 --> 00:12:34.900 And I don't know if folks would be as aware 00:12:34.900 --> 00:12:38.780 if there were no holiday around. 00:12:38.780 --> 00:12:41.980 - If I could see clarification, 00:12:41.980 --> 00:12:44.700 is your concern regarding when the applicant 00:12:44.700 --> 00:12:47.420 was working to host their public engagement 00:12:47.420 --> 00:12:49.420 or is your concern regarding 00:12:49.420 --> 00:12:53.580 when we sent out the various mail notices? 00:12:53.580 --> 00:12:56.740 - Well, I'm looking under public outreach 00:12:56.740 --> 00:12:58.420 on the agenda information sheet. 00:12:58.420 --> 00:13:00.500 And it just, that's my concern 00:13:00.500 --> 00:13:02.140 when I'm reading this where my note is. 00:13:02.140 --> 00:13:05.620 - And those dates are related to the public notices 00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:08.220 that we send out, Tina, to answer your question. 00:13:08.220 --> 00:13:09.420 - Thank you. 00:13:09.420 --> 00:13:12.100 It seems they were awful close to Memorial Day 00:13:12.100 --> 00:13:15.140 when folks aren't maybe necessarily 00:13:15.140 --> 00:13:16.900 thinking about those things. 00:13:16.900 --> 00:13:20.340 - And I can understand your concern on that. 00:13:20.340 --> 00:13:22.980 We actually, our notices go out slightly earlier 00:13:22.980 --> 00:13:26.420 than what is even provided for by state statute. 00:13:26.420 --> 00:13:28.300 Did the applicant do any public engagement? 00:13:28.300 --> 00:13:30.900 Because I know that sometimes we do that direct outreach 00:13:30.900 --> 00:13:32.420 or that they do that direct outreach. 00:13:32.420 --> 00:13:35.460 - They did not, that I'm aware of for this site. 00:13:35.460 --> 00:13:37.540 It's either undeveloped or undeveloping 00:13:37.540 --> 00:13:39.020 in close proximity around them. 00:13:39.020 --> 00:13:41.380 So there wasn't, they didn't reach out 00:13:41.380 --> 00:13:43.900 to a lot of people in my opinion. 00:13:43.900 --> 00:13:45.940 - Okay, so they will, Commissioner MacDuff, 00:13:45.940 --> 00:13:47.660 they do receive a letter from us 00:13:47.660 --> 00:13:49.740 that is sent directly to the property owners 00:13:49.740 --> 00:13:51.100 within 200 feet. 00:13:51.100 --> 00:13:54.260 There is also a postcard that we send out to all residents 00:13:54.260 --> 00:13:56.340 based on our utility records, 00:13:56.340 --> 00:13:58.380 because we realize some residents 00:13:58.380 --> 00:13:59.860 may not own their properties. 00:13:59.860 --> 00:14:01.580 So in the overlap area, 00:14:01.580 --> 00:14:03.460 they would have gotten two notifications from us. 00:14:03.460 --> 00:14:05.580 And then beyond the 200 feet, 00:14:05.580 --> 00:14:08.500 those within the balance of that additional 300 feet, 00:14:08.500 --> 00:14:09.780 we get the postcard. 00:14:09.780 --> 00:14:11.180 So if they were interested, 00:14:11.180 --> 00:14:12.500 they would have reached out to us 00:14:12.500 --> 00:14:14.220 with both of those notifications. 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:16.660 The newspaper notice, I realize not everybody may read 00:14:16.660 --> 00:14:18.620 the Dent Record Chronicle, 00:14:18.620 --> 00:14:21.180 but hence why we do the two mail notices to help 00:14:21.180 --> 00:14:23.020 with notifying those property owners. 00:14:23.020 --> 00:14:27.380 - Can you point out which property owners 00:14:27.380 --> 00:14:28.220 were actually notified? 00:14:28.220 --> 00:14:29.180 'Cause I see it's only five. 00:14:29.180 --> 00:14:30.020 - It's not, yeah. 00:14:30.020 --> 00:14:33.260 Again, within the proximity of this property, 00:14:33.260 --> 00:14:37.100 there really is that developing multifamily property 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:38.900 to the south that is within there. 00:14:38.900 --> 00:14:42.020 Other properties are undeveloped parcels 00:14:42.020 --> 00:14:45.380 within 200 and 300 or 500 feet. 00:14:48.380 --> 00:14:50.460 So it looks like three of those properties 00:14:50.460 --> 00:14:53.740 fell within that 200 and then two additional 00:14:53.740 --> 00:14:54.780 fell within the 500. 00:14:54.780 --> 00:15:02.940 - Okay, thank you. 00:15:02.940 --> 00:15:03.760 Thanks, Mia. 00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:05.820 Okay. 00:15:05.820 --> 00:15:08.820 Moving on, then we're gonna go to MPA 25001. 00:15:08.820 --> 00:15:16.460 Sarah? 00:15:16.460 --> 00:15:17.300 - Sorry. 00:15:17.300 --> 00:15:18.300 - Sure, sorry. 00:15:18.300 --> 00:15:29.060 - Good evening, commissioners. 00:15:29.060 --> 00:15:31.020 My name is Sahar Svandieri, 00:15:31.020 --> 00:15:34.380 Senior Transportation Planner, Development Services. 00:15:34.380 --> 00:15:36.340 Tonight, I would like to speak with you 00:15:36.340 --> 00:15:38.540 about the Mobility Plan amendments. 00:15:38.540 --> 00:15:43.140 And this one is for MPA 24-001A 00:15:43.140 --> 00:15:47.580 for Underwood Road, Springside, and Corbyn Road. 00:15:47.580 --> 00:15:49.980 But before I go any further, 00:15:49.980 --> 00:15:53.300 let me explain a little bit about the Mobility Plan. 00:15:53.300 --> 00:15:55.960 Mobility Plan, just like Comprehensive Plan, 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:57.620 is a long-range plan. 00:15:57.620 --> 00:15:59.540 And the current Mobility Plan 00:15:59.540 --> 00:16:03.540 was adopted by the city council back in March 2022. 00:16:03.540 --> 00:16:12.040 But right now, as part of the Comprehensive Plan of 2040, 00:16:13.380 --> 00:16:16.220 generally, the Mobility Plan establishes 00:16:16.220 --> 00:16:20.620 the future roadways, pedestrian, and bicyclist network 00:16:20.620 --> 00:16:25.180 to ensure the connectivity and efficient movements. 00:16:25.180 --> 00:16:27.460 However, we should keep in our mind 00:16:27.460 --> 00:16:29.580 that Mobility Plan is not intended 00:16:29.580 --> 00:16:33.180 to provide detailed design of roads or plans. 00:16:33.180 --> 00:16:36.900 It is more intended to provide general policies 00:16:36.900 --> 00:16:39.180 and broad roadway alignments. 00:16:39.180 --> 00:16:42.620 But it can be further refined as needed 00:16:42.620 --> 00:16:44.900 based on the new development project 00:16:44.900 --> 00:16:48.020 or new capital improvement project. 00:16:48.020 --> 00:16:52.380 Also, this Mobility Plan has three major elements. 00:16:52.380 --> 00:16:54.980 First is the roadway alignment. 00:16:54.980 --> 00:16:57.700 Second is needed right away. 00:16:57.700 --> 00:16:59.580 It refers to the width of the road 00:16:59.580 --> 00:17:01.700 and the speed limit on the roads. 00:17:01.700 --> 00:17:05.140 And the third is the roadway design standard. 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:10.020 So back to our amendments. 00:17:10.020 --> 00:17:14.180 This amendment has four proposals. 00:17:14.180 --> 00:17:16.540 The reason that they have all these proposals 00:17:16.540 --> 00:17:19.540 under one amendment is that they are all located 00:17:19.540 --> 00:17:22.540 in a very close proximity of each other. 00:17:22.540 --> 00:17:25.220 So, and they are somehow interconnected. 00:17:25.220 --> 00:17:26.380 That's why. 00:17:26.380 --> 00:17:28.500 So it gets a little bit complicated, 00:17:28.500 --> 00:17:31.780 but I will go one by one and explain the reasons 00:17:31.780 --> 00:17:34.580 for each of these requests. 00:17:34.580 --> 00:17:36.740 The general area of these requests 00:17:36.740 --> 00:17:41.740 located at west, south of the city, east of airport. 00:17:41.740 --> 00:17:46.060 And the first request is for Underwood Road. 00:17:46.060 --> 00:17:49.700 As you can see in this map, Underwood Road 00:17:49.700 --> 00:17:52.300 also identified as road number one. 00:17:52.300 --> 00:17:56.020 This is the future northern extension of Underwood Road, 00:17:56.020 --> 00:17:58.460 which means it's not existed yet. 00:17:58.460 --> 00:18:00.940 Staff proposed to remove this section. 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:05.660 The second request is to remove the eastern, 00:18:05.660 --> 00:18:10.380 the western extension of East-West Corbyn Road here. 00:18:10.380 --> 00:18:14.900 The road that has been identified as number two. 00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:18.580 The third request is to extend the roadway classification 00:18:18.580 --> 00:18:21.300 of North-South Corbyn Road. 00:18:21.300 --> 00:18:24.020 And the fourth request is about unifying 00:18:24.020 --> 00:18:26.900 the roadway classification of a spring side road. 00:18:26.900 --> 00:18:29.780 Thank you, any questions? 00:18:34.820 --> 00:18:38.060 - Do you have a diagram of what, 00:18:38.060 --> 00:18:40.580 when you remove Underwood, 00:18:40.580 --> 00:18:43.980 remove that number two, the little East-West, 00:18:43.980 --> 00:18:46.860 the little swoop up of Corbyn and make it the north? 00:18:46.860 --> 00:18:52.220 Is that what, you're basically taking one and two out 00:18:52.220 --> 00:18:53.900 and replacing it with three? 00:18:53.900 --> 00:18:56.820 Is that how I'm understanding this? 00:18:56.820 --> 00:18:59.260 - We are not replacing, but we are going to, 00:18:59.260 --> 00:19:02.020 the north-south Corbyn Road is existed. 00:19:02.020 --> 00:19:05.940 We are just extending the roadway classification. 00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:08.020 But yes, the road is existed. 00:19:08.020 --> 00:19:08.860 - Oh, okay. 00:19:08.860 --> 00:19:13.700 - But we are going to re-align the southern section 00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:17.780 of Underwood here to connect to West Corp. 00:19:17.780 --> 00:19:21.820 - If you look at exhibit six, 00:19:21.820 --> 00:19:23.660 that has a graphic depiction 00:19:23.660 --> 00:19:26.700 of what our mobility plan would look like 00:19:26.700 --> 00:19:28.780 if this amendment is approved. 00:19:28.780 --> 00:19:31.940 So in your attachments, in your agenda packet materials, 00:19:31.940 --> 00:19:33.700 again, exhibit six helps kind of show 00:19:33.700 --> 00:19:36.540 what that end result would be, as Sahar was explaining. 00:19:36.540 --> 00:19:52.020 - Thank you. - Any other questions? 00:19:52.020 --> 00:19:52.900 Maryann? 00:19:52.900 --> 00:19:57.140 - Yes, question and a comment, just a comment for you. 00:19:57.140 --> 00:20:01.780 On the background on this mobility plan, 00:20:01.780 --> 00:20:06.780 I appreciate the acknowledgement that we're moving this 00:20:06.780 --> 00:20:12.260 to mitigate potential environmental impacts 00:20:12.260 --> 00:20:14.380 and to improve accessibility. 00:20:14.380 --> 00:20:16.380 And I will say that back in the day, 00:20:16.380 --> 00:20:18.740 we used to drive these roads and hot rod. 00:20:18.740 --> 00:20:20.340 And so I know right where you're talking 00:20:20.340 --> 00:20:23.380 about the beautiful, some very beautiful... 00:20:23.380 --> 00:20:25.580 - Creek. 00:20:25.580 --> 00:20:28.380 - Creek and resources, natural resources. 00:20:28.380 --> 00:20:33.380 So I appreciate being aware of this and moving the road. 00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:34.420 - Yes, sure. 00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:41.620 - Okay, thank you. 00:20:41.620 --> 00:20:42.460 - Thank you. 00:20:42.460 --> 00:20:43.300 - Sure. 00:20:43.300 --> 00:20:46.700 - And you have the next item. 00:20:46.700 --> 00:20:47.540 - Yes. 00:20:47.540 --> 00:20:48.740 - All right, well, you're up. 00:20:48.740 --> 00:20:56.860 - Good evening, Sahar Espandier, 00:20:56.860 --> 00:20:59.540 Senior Transportation Planner. 00:20:59.540 --> 00:21:01.460 This mobility plan amendment 00:21:01.460 --> 00:21:04.700 is about removing a future collector. 00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:08.100 As you can see, this collector located 00:21:08.100 --> 00:21:10.140 on the west side of the city, 00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:12.980 located between I-35 and western, 00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:16.700 south of US-380 and north of Jim Crystal. 00:21:16.700 --> 00:21:19.500 Staff proposes to remove this part of the, 00:21:19.500 --> 00:21:22.100 this future collector. 00:21:22.100 --> 00:21:25.060 It means that this road is not existed yet, 00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:27.860 but because of the... 00:21:27.860 --> 00:21:32.100 I'm going to explain it more after the next session, 00:21:32.100 --> 00:21:34.740 but there is a railroad crossing here. 00:21:34.740 --> 00:21:37.140 Also there is a flood pain to the north. 00:21:37.140 --> 00:21:40.100 So, and there's enough road capacity around. 00:21:40.100 --> 00:21:42.340 So after a detailed study, 00:21:42.340 --> 00:21:45.300 staff proposes to remove this future collector. 00:21:45.300 --> 00:21:50.420 - And Sahar, did you want to correct for the record, 00:21:50.420 --> 00:21:52.220 it's the Kansas City Southern Railroad? 00:21:52.220 --> 00:21:53.380 - It's the Kansas City. 00:21:54.620 --> 00:21:57.180 I believe your staff report acknowledged the Union Pacific 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.900 and we realized we had an incorrect name. 00:21:58.900 --> 00:22:01.260 So we'll make sure it's corrected for council. 00:22:01.260 --> 00:22:06.900 - Okay, any questions? 00:22:06.900 --> 00:22:09.940 No? 00:22:09.940 --> 00:22:11.900 Okay, all right, thank you very much. 00:22:11.900 --> 00:22:19.100 So we'll go back to the work session portion 00:22:19.100 --> 00:22:19.940 of our agenda. 00:22:24.620 --> 00:22:27.540 (faintly speaking) 00:22:27.540 --> 00:22:31.180 - Okay, we're going to receive some work session reports. 00:22:31.180 --> 00:22:35.780 So up first, we have PZ 25-123. 00:22:35.780 --> 00:22:37.860 Julie. 00:22:37.860 --> 00:22:40.300 - Good evening, Julie Wyatt. 00:22:40.300 --> 00:22:41.900 Let me pull up my presentation. 00:22:41.900 --> 00:22:50.340 All right, good evening. 00:22:50.340 --> 00:22:52.740 I'm Julie Wyatt and I am a principal planner 00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:54.060 with the city of Denton. 00:22:54.060 --> 00:22:56.580 And I'm presenting a bootcamp to you tonight 00:22:56.580 --> 00:23:00.220 regarding area planning and zoning district overlays. 00:23:00.220 --> 00:23:07.060 So just go over what we're going to talk about first. 00:23:07.060 --> 00:23:09.220 We're going to start off with area planning, 00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:11.420 talk about what they are, why we do them, 00:23:11.420 --> 00:23:15.460 how we create them, talk about how we implement them, 00:23:15.460 --> 00:23:17.420 what our prioritized areas are, 00:23:17.420 --> 00:23:19.180 and then some adopted area plans 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:21.140 that we have within the city. 00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:23.620 And then we're going to shift to overlay districts. 00:23:23.620 --> 00:23:25.900 And we're going to, again, talk about what they are 00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:27.940 and how they're created. 00:23:27.940 --> 00:23:29.900 What our Denton Development Code says 00:23:29.900 --> 00:23:34.220 about overlay districts are some existing overlays we have, 00:23:34.220 --> 00:23:35.660 and then a brief overview 00:23:35.660 --> 00:23:38.340 of some upcoming overlay districts. 00:23:38.340 --> 00:23:43.100 So first, we're going to start with area planning. 00:23:43.100 --> 00:23:48.340 So before we talk about specific area planning, 00:23:48.340 --> 00:23:50.900 I thought it would be best to kind of set the table 00:23:50.900 --> 00:23:55.500 about how they fit within our hierarchy of documents. 00:23:55.500 --> 00:23:58.500 We start off with our policy documents. 00:23:58.500 --> 00:24:03.420 And the big policy document we have in the city of Denton 00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:05.540 is our comprehensive plan. 00:24:05.540 --> 00:24:07.420 It's Denton Plan 2040. 00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:10.060 It was adopted in 2022. 00:24:10.060 --> 00:24:14.620 And it is a broad document that covers the entire city 00:24:14.620 --> 00:24:17.820 and all aspects related to the city. 00:24:17.820 --> 00:24:22.820 You hear us say from time to time here on zoning cases 00:24:22.820 --> 00:24:25.420 and other items that come before you, 00:24:25.420 --> 00:24:28.020 the comprehensive plan is the 30,000-foot view. 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:31.140 So if you're in an airplane looking down on the city, 00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:33.320 that's what that comprehensive plan is. 00:24:33.320 --> 00:24:37.340 We have other plans nested within the comprehensive plan. 00:24:37.340 --> 00:24:39.620 And Sahar just talked about the mobility plan, 00:24:39.620 --> 00:24:41.060 and that's one of them. 00:24:41.060 --> 00:24:45.580 Those specific plans are, they're citywide, 00:24:45.580 --> 00:24:47.340 so they cover the entire city, 00:24:47.340 --> 00:24:49.820 but they are related to a specific subject. 00:24:49.820 --> 00:24:53.180 So think mobility, think about capital projects, 00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:55.860 maybe economic development, drainage. 00:24:55.860 --> 00:25:00.380 So we have some of those citywide plans 00:25:00.380 --> 00:25:03.220 that are nested within our comprehensive plan, 00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:06.300 but they are just subject-specific. 00:25:06.300 --> 00:25:07.820 And then we get to area plans. 00:25:07.820 --> 00:25:09.980 And those are a little bit closer to the ground. 00:25:09.980 --> 00:25:13.500 We say they're about 5,000 feet above ground. 00:25:13.500 --> 00:25:17.140 Area plans allow us to take a deep dive 00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:22.140 into a particular area, so a geographic boundary. 00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:25.700 And so if the comp plan looks at the population, 00:25:25.700 --> 00:25:28.500 in total population of the city, 00:25:28.500 --> 00:25:30.900 an area plan will look at it at the block level 00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:32.180 or the neighborhood level. 00:25:32.180 --> 00:25:36.300 We're looking at things like demographics, area needs, 00:25:36.300 --> 00:25:39.460 land uses, parks, all of that 00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:43.260 at a very detailed, specific scale. 00:25:47.380 --> 00:25:49.620 And then, so we've got these policy documents. 00:25:49.620 --> 00:25:54.620 And then those then inform our regulatory documents. 00:25:54.620 --> 00:25:56.980 And that's where the rubber hits the road. 00:25:56.980 --> 00:25:58.500 And that's at the ground level. 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:00.900 That's things like our debt and development code, 00:26:00.900 --> 00:26:04.940 our zoning map, our capital projects, construction, 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:06.380 things that are being built. 00:26:06.380 --> 00:26:09.620 So all of those policies really should inform 00:26:09.620 --> 00:26:12.460 what our laws are and what we build within the city. 00:26:14.420 --> 00:26:17.500 So now I'll talk specifically about area plans 00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:20.460 in relationship to the comprehensive plan. 00:26:20.460 --> 00:26:24.980 Denton 2040 does recommend a variety of area plans 00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:28.580 in order to achieve the community's overall vision. 00:26:28.580 --> 00:26:31.500 It's both mentioned in our land use element 00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:35.860 as well as our community character in urban design element. 00:26:35.860 --> 00:26:39.180 So area plans are a part of our comprehensive plan. 00:26:42.620 --> 00:26:45.300 So what are specifically area plans? 00:26:45.300 --> 00:26:47.940 If it's done right, you end up with a document. 00:26:47.940 --> 00:26:51.140 And we have several of them, 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:52.740 and we'll talk about them tonight. 00:26:52.740 --> 00:26:55.220 But they should be forward-looking. 00:26:55.220 --> 00:26:59.660 And they allow stakeholders, residents, 00:26:59.660 --> 00:27:01.500 to determine what their community, 00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:04.380 their specific neighborhood should look and feel like 00:27:04.380 --> 00:27:05.860 in 10 to 20 years. 00:27:05.860 --> 00:27:10.140 As I mentioned, they are specific to a particular area. 00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:14.980 So it is looking, once again, at a specific neighborhood, 00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:19.340 or maybe it's a district, maybe it's a corridor. 00:27:19.340 --> 00:27:23.420 But they are particular to one part of the city. 00:27:23.420 --> 00:27:27.940 The public engagement should be really focused 00:27:27.940 --> 00:27:31.860 on an area plan to refine that community's vision, 00:27:31.860 --> 00:27:34.460 to figure out what it is that they want to see 00:27:34.460 --> 00:27:37.260 in terms of land uses and parks 00:27:37.260 --> 00:27:40.260 and mobility within their community. 00:27:40.260 --> 00:27:41.900 And ultimately, they point the way. 00:27:41.900 --> 00:27:44.860 They give us a roadmap on how to achieve that vision. 00:27:44.860 --> 00:27:52.500 We have a variety of reasons as to why we do area plans. 00:27:52.500 --> 00:27:57.500 And they can be very unique to a specific area. 00:27:57.500 --> 00:28:01.700 But generally, they are intended to refine that vision. 00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:04.460 It's also looking for areas of protection. 00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:06.220 So if there is a neighborhood 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:08.740 that really wants to protect a certain resource 00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:09.980 within their community, 00:28:09.980 --> 00:28:12.460 area plans are a good way to determine that 00:28:12.460 --> 00:28:14.140 and determine how to protect it. 00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:17.260 They're good at identifying areas of change. 00:28:17.260 --> 00:28:19.980 Maybe a community wants to see some redevelopment 00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:24.780 or a change in the particular land uses. 00:28:24.780 --> 00:28:28.220 They help us understand and respond to community, 00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:31.140 to specific issues or needs. 00:28:31.140 --> 00:28:32.580 They plan for opportunities. 00:28:32.580 --> 00:28:35.180 We're gonna talk about the Design Downtown Denton Plan 00:28:35.180 --> 00:28:36.020 in a few minutes. 00:28:36.020 --> 00:28:40.300 And one facet of that plan is the area south of downtown 00:28:40.300 --> 00:28:42.260 has recently come out of the floodplain. 00:28:42.260 --> 00:28:44.580 So how are we gonna plan for that opportunity 00:28:44.580 --> 00:28:46.700 for that part of the community? 00:28:46.700 --> 00:28:49.420 Identify infrastructure needs, 00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:53.220 maybe mobility challenges and how to address those. 00:28:53.220 --> 00:28:56.260 And provide the community an opportunity 00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:59.660 to provide input in future land use decisions. 00:28:59.660 --> 00:29:04.500 Our comprehensive plan has this map within it. 00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:08.020 And it identifies certain focus areas, 00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:10.860 centers, corridors and gateways within our community. 00:29:10.860 --> 00:29:14.420 And those are really suggested areas for those area plans 00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:17.620 because the comprehensive plan recognizes 00:29:17.620 --> 00:29:20.020 they need more detailed planning. 00:29:20.020 --> 00:29:25.220 So how are our area plans created? 00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:28.420 While there is not one right way to do it, 00:29:28.420 --> 00:29:33.140 there is a framework that most area plans do follow. 00:29:33.140 --> 00:29:35.500 And we'll just go over these briefly. 00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:37.260 So first we've got pre-planning. 00:29:37.260 --> 00:29:39.140 That's identifying the purpose. 00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:41.620 Maybe what are those opportunities or challenges 00:29:41.620 --> 00:29:42.940 for a community? 00:29:42.940 --> 00:29:45.060 Also, before you kick off the plan, 00:29:45.060 --> 00:29:47.980 you wanna start identifying stakeholders. 00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:52.100 Maybe create a work plan of what you wanna achieve 00:29:52.100 --> 00:29:53.580 with the area plan. 00:29:53.580 --> 00:29:56.500 And then if necessary, retain a consultant. 00:29:56.500 --> 00:29:59.460 Once you've done your pre-planning, 00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:00.500 you kick off the plan 00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:02.260 and that really is the start date, right? 00:30:02.260 --> 00:30:06.140 You're starting to discover key issues within the community. 00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:11.500 Appoint a steering or advisory committee 00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:15.100 to help validate any findings 00:30:15.100 --> 00:30:17.380 and keep you on the right track. 00:30:17.380 --> 00:30:20.340 The biggest part of any area plan, 00:30:20.340 --> 00:30:22.540 or at least that we've had recently 00:30:22.540 --> 00:30:23.980 within the city of Denton, 00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:26.300 is that vision and existing conditions. 00:30:26.300 --> 00:30:30.020 And that's really two parts within that section. 00:30:30.020 --> 00:30:33.340 It is a whole lot of public engagement, 00:30:33.340 --> 00:30:34.860 talking to the community, 00:30:34.860 --> 00:30:37.380 understanding what their concerns are 00:30:37.380 --> 00:30:39.820 and what their vision and their hopes and dreams 00:30:39.820 --> 00:30:41.080 for their neighborhoods. 00:30:41.080 --> 00:30:44.620 So that intensive public engagement, 00:30:44.620 --> 00:30:46.500 but also getting an understanding 00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:47.940 of the existing conditions. 00:30:47.940 --> 00:30:49.660 And that really is a lot of research. 00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:51.860 So you've got either a city staff 00:30:51.860 --> 00:30:54.020 or a project team or consultant 00:30:54.020 --> 00:30:56.100 looking at things like demographics, 00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:00.220 understanding what those existing land uses are. 00:31:00.220 --> 00:31:04.420 What is our infrastructure? 00:31:04.420 --> 00:31:08.420 What are our public facilities within that community? 00:31:08.420 --> 00:31:10.920 And then we also look at those demographics. 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:15.100 So we can understand what the population is. 00:31:15.100 --> 00:31:17.740 What is the market demand for housing 00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:21.700 or for other services or facilities within the area? 00:31:21.700 --> 00:31:23.020 What's the tax base? 00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:25.900 So looking at all of this data, 00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:29.540 all of this information goes into writing the plan. 00:31:29.540 --> 00:31:34.620 So we write, the project team writes the plan, 00:31:34.620 --> 00:31:37.300 reviews it, and then it goes to the community 00:31:37.300 --> 00:31:39.460 and policymakers for validation, 00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:41.780 for response, for feedback. 00:31:41.780 --> 00:31:44.060 And then that starts all over again. 00:31:44.060 --> 00:31:47.900 So the drafting plan is a real iterative process 00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:50.420 in that we go with little sections and say, 00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:51.340 does this sound right? 00:31:51.340 --> 00:31:53.500 Is this what we wanna see? 00:31:53.500 --> 00:31:56.660 Get that validation and then go back and refine. 00:31:56.660 --> 00:32:00.820 Ultimately, you hopefully end up with a plan 00:32:00.820 --> 00:32:04.300 that when it's presented to the community, 00:32:04.300 --> 00:32:09.300 it is accurately reflects what the community wants to see. 00:32:09.300 --> 00:32:10.920 It goes through public hearing 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.220 and then adopted by city council. 00:32:14.220 --> 00:32:16.660 That process takes about 12 months, 00:32:16.660 --> 00:32:18.200 maybe a little bit longer. 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:19.140 With an area plan, 00:32:19.140 --> 00:32:21.160 you don't wanna get an analysis paralysis. 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:25.660 You wanna get in and move forward and get momentum going. 00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:28.860 Area planning does not stop there, however. 00:32:28.860 --> 00:32:30.380 Then you have implementation. 00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:31.980 And there's two parts to implementation 00:32:31.980 --> 00:32:32.920 the way I think of it. 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.460 First, you've got the land use policy. 00:32:34.460 --> 00:32:38.260 You've got that directive within the plan. 00:32:38.260 --> 00:32:40.020 And that's where the community is saying, 00:32:40.020 --> 00:32:42.040 look, this is what we wanna preserve. 00:32:42.040 --> 00:32:43.920 This is what we want to change. 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.260 And those really inform some of those decisions 00:32:47.260 --> 00:32:50.060 that you make or that the analysis that staff does 00:32:50.060 --> 00:32:52.820 in terms of things like zoning decisions 00:32:52.820 --> 00:32:56.900 or those types of projects that you see before you. 00:32:56.900 --> 00:33:00.060 It also can include some design elements 00:33:00.060 --> 00:33:01.500 that the community would like to see, 00:33:01.500 --> 00:33:03.020 some additional protections 00:33:03.020 --> 00:33:07.980 or community character that they wanna protect. 00:33:07.980 --> 00:33:09.320 So that's that policy side. 00:33:09.320 --> 00:33:11.820 We've also got the action steps. 00:33:11.820 --> 00:33:16.580 And these are these tasks that staff would carry out 00:33:16.580 --> 00:33:17.900 or community members, 00:33:17.900 --> 00:33:20.500 and that would carry out a policy or a project. 00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:25.500 These should be steps to help us achieve the goals 00:33:25.500 --> 00:33:27.980 that the community has set forth. 00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:30.860 One thing that we wanna do in our area planning 00:33:30.860 --> 00:33:34.140 is make sure that our steps and our tasks are attainable. 00:33:34.140 --> 00:33:37.500 We wanna make sure we can achieve the promises that we make 00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:40.460 and those elements that we put in the plan. 00:33:40.460 --> 00:33:42.020 They should include a timeframe. 00:33:42.020 --> 00:33:46.380 When we think we can accomplish this task, 00:33:46.380 --> 00:33:48.280 identify the responsible agencies 00:33:48.280 --> 00:33:50.360 and then how to pay for it. 00:33:50.360 --> 00:33:55.620 In 2022, when the city council adopted 00:33:55.620 --> 00:33:58.360 the current comprehensive plan, 00:33:58.360 --> 00:34:01.260 they also prioritize some areas 00:34:01.260 --> 00:34:03.140 that they would like to see some area plans. 00:34:03.140 --> 00:34:07.980 So they talked through 10 areas. 00:34:07.980 --> 00:34:12.140 They recommended three, four area plans. 00:34:12.140 --> 00:34:13.700 The first one was the Northeast Denton 00:34:13.700 --> 00:34:16.100 that's at Loop 288 and Sherman. 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:18.940 That plan did go forward with analysis 00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:20.760 and some drafting of the plan. 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.340 It was paused to allow the community members 00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:26.460 to explore opportunities for funding 00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:27.980 for a future state part. 00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:30.340 So that's on pause right now. 00:34:30.340 --> 00:34:33.180 But the other two prioritize area, 00:34:33.180 --> 00:34:36.100 Southeast Denton and Downtown Denton, 00:34:36.100 --> 00:34:38.760 those plans have been adopted. 00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.180 They were adopted last summer. 00:34:41.180 --> 00:34:43.500 We'll hit them just briefly. 00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:45.940 So Southeast Denton, I know Mia talked about it. 00:34:45.940 --> 00:34:47.820 I think it was last meeting. 00:34:47.820 --> 00:34:51.660 And we had a specific purpose 00:34:51.660 --> 00:34:54.660 of why we went forward with that plan. 00:34:54.660 --> 00:34:56.260 And that was first to acknowledge 00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:58.060 the generational trauma associated 00:34:58.060 --> 00:35:00.980 with the displacement of Quaker Town families, 00:35:00.980 --> 00:35:03.620 but also to address residents' concerns 00:35:03.620 --> 00:35:08.620 of current concerns, places that they wanted to protect, 00:35:08.620 --> 00:35:11.460 places that they wanted to see change. 00:35:12.660 --> 00:35:16.260 The process for the Southeast Denton area plan 00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:20.940 included a tremendous amount of public engagement, 00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:24.660 over 40 engagement activities, and it ran the gamut. 00:35:24.660 --> 00:35:29.660 We did standard neighborhood meetings all the way to, 00:35:29.660 --> 00:35:32.340 there's a picture here in the middle of your screen, 00:35:32.340 --> 00:35:34.420 man on the street interviews 00:35:34.420 --> 00:35:36.900 in front of local businesses and parks. 00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:40.940 And so we wanted to talk to as many people as possible. 00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:44.100 Ultimately, it was adopted by city council 00:35:44.100 --> 00:35:48.220 and with a vision 00:35:48.220 --> 00:35:53.220 that the community wanted to make sure 00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:57.380 that cherished history and that black culture 00:35:57.380 --> 00:35:58.860 was protected and preserved, 00:35:58.860 --> 00:36:00.780 but also to create a community 00:36:00.780 --> 00:36:03.620 where all were welcome for the future. 00:36:03.620 --> 00:36:07.100 So it was a really great experience. 00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:11.340 And then we had the design downtown Denton plan. 00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:13.100 And that purpose was to ensure 00:36:13.100 --> 00:36:15.940 that downtown remains relevant for the future. 00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:20.380 And they did a lot of public engagement as well. 00:36:20.380 --> 00:36:23.980 It also followed kind of that planning process. 00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:27.620 And that one was unique in that 00:36:27.620 --> 00:36:30.060 the stakeholders were extremely diverse. 00:36:30.060 --> 00:36:32.740 They had business owners all the way to visitors 00:36:32.740 --> 00:36:34.940 who just came to, who don't necessarily live 00:36:34.940 --> 00:36:39.220 in the community, but come to the downtown square for events. 00:36:39.220 --> 00:36:42.420 So they had a lot of really engaging 00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:45.060 and innovative ways to talk to the community. 00:36:45.060 --> 00:36:49.540 They used the internet really well in social media. 00:36:49.540 --> 00:36:51.580 Looking at Cameron, she did a great job. 00:36:51.580 --> 00:36:55.900 And they just, they really reached out 00:36:55.900 --> 00:37:00.740 in really interesting ways to get that feedback. 00:37:00.740 --> 00:37:02.740 We also have older adopted plans. 00:37:02.740 --> 00:37:05.780 We have a Fry Street area plan, Edenia area plan, 00:37:05.780 --> 00:37:08.020 and an Oak gateway area plan. 00:37:08.020 --> 00:37:10.020 A couple of these plans are pretty old. 00:37:10.020 --> 00:37:12.700 And just to let you know, kind of like comprehensive plan, 00:37:12.700 --> 00:37:15.300 they should be updated regularly 00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:16.900 in order to make sure that they stay current 00:37:16.900 --> 00:37:19.780 and that we inaccurate and that we are 00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:22.420 accurately reflecting the community's vision. 00:37:22.420 --> 00:37:25.580 So now we're gonna leave area plans 00:37:25.580 --> 00:37:27.260 and we're gonna go where the rubber hits the road, 00:37:27.260 --> 00:37:29.660 and that is overlay districts. 00:37:29.660 --> 00:37:31.140 So what are they? 00:37:31.140 --> 00:37:34.100 They are zoning tools to implement area plans 00:37:34.100 --> 00:37:35.860 or to address localized needs 00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:38.420 or to achieve other policy goals. 00:37:38.420 --> 00:37:39.620 So there's a variety of reasons 00:37:39.620 --> 00:37:41.900 of why we have overlay districts. 00:37:41.900 --> 00:37:44.060 They actually sit on top of the zoning 00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:46.940 and they can modify the regulations where they're needed, 00:37:46.940 --> 00:37:50.020 but that underlying zoning stays in place. 00:37:50.020 --> 00:37:52.580 They often require substantial coordination 00:37:52.580 --> 00:37:56.980 between property owners, staff, stakeholders, 00:37:57.900 --> 00:38:01.860 and the process to put a overlay district in place 00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:03.700 or to amend it is the same as zoning. 00:38:03.700 --> 00:38:06.660 So when the live work overlay comes before you, 00:38:06.660 --> 00:38:10.540 it will function very much like a zoning public hearing 00:38:10.540 --> 00:38:13.100 where there's notification and a public hearing 00:38:13.100 --> 00:38:15.220 ultimately approval by city council. 00:38:15.220 --> 00:38:19.180 The Denton Development Code Subtractor Four 00:38:19.180 --> 00:38:24.060 outlines how we need to structure our overlays 00:38:24.060 --> 00:38:27.060 in the city of Denton and approve them. 00:38:27.060 --> 00:38:30.500 And there are three parts. 00:38:30.500 --> 00:38:33.660 There is the statement of purpose, the why, 00:38:33.660 --> 00:38:36.140 a boundary map, and then the regulations. 00:38:36.140 --> 00:38:38.540 And those regulations should provide that protection 00:38:38.540 --> 00:38:40.580 of features that the community has said 00:38:40.580 --> 00:38:43.940 that they wanna protect or that are of special concern. 00:38:43.940 --> 00:38:47.340 It can change the levels of permission for land uses. 00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:50.620 It can have special design standards, performance standards, 00:38:50.620 --> 00:38:54.660 or other standards related to different uses, 00:38:54.660 --> 00:38:57.340 and then any other matters of importance. 00:38:57.340 --> 00:39:01.900 I think we have seven overlay districts. 00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:02.860 I may have miscounted, 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:05.900 but just gonna briefly touch on them. 00:39:05.900 --> 00:39:08.140 So we have the Fry Street overlay 00:39:08.140 --> 00:39:10.820 that is an orange on your screen. 00:39:10.820 --> 00:39:14.100 The purpose of that was to protect the public peace, 00:39:14.100 --> 00:39:16.940 safety, cleanliness, and general welfare. 00:39:16.940 --> 00:39:21.940 This actually came out of the Fry Street small area plan. 00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:25.980 And so it regulates things like parking, 00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:29.140 solid waste containers, signs, setbacks, 00:39:29.140 --> 00:39:31.540 and then residential and commercial density. 00:39:31.540 --> 00:39:34.620 We have the Denton Square District. 00:39:34.620 --> 00:39:36.860 That was intended to make sure that we preserve 00:39:36.860 --> 00:39:39.500 this cherished community asset. 00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:43.260 And so it establishes design standards, 00:39:43.260 --> 00:39:47.300 demolition approvals, and also approvals 00:39:49.740 --> 00:39:53.140 and certificate of design consistency procedure. 00:39:53.140 --> 00:39:58.220 We have three historic districts in the city of Denton 00:39:58.220 --> 00:40:03.220 that Cameron manages as our historic preservation officer. 00:40:03.220 --> 00:40:06.540 These historic districts are intended to protect, 00:40:06.540 --> 00:40:11.540 enhance, and preserve these structures within the community. 00:40:11.540 --> 00:40:15.700 And the regulations include things like 00:40:15.700 --> 00:40:18.860 architectural standards specific to those areas 00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:22.580 and approval procedure, the certificate of appropriateness. 00:40:22.580 --> 00:40:28.820 And then three overlay districts we don't see very much. 00:40:28.820 --> 00:40:31.900 Well, you see the Razor Ranch District quite a bit, 00:40:31.900 --> 00:40:34.580 but the municipal airport overlay, 00:40:34.580 --> 00:40:37.500 that really is related to the functioning of the airport. 00:40:37.500 --> 00:40:40.620 It is really specific to that area. 00:40:40.620 --> 00:40:43.020 It regulates things like the height of structures, 00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:46.380 also limits the uses because you don't wanna build a house 00:40:46.380 --> 00:40:47.780 next to a runway, right? 00:40:47.780 --> 00:40:49.660 There are noise implications. 00:40:49.660 --> 00:40:54.660 So provides those regulations specific 00:40:54.660 --> 00:40:56.820 to the functioning of that airport. 00:40:56.820 --> 00:41:01.820 Unicorn Lake Overlay District, that is mainly residential. 00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:06.700 There's a little bit of piece that is commercial within it, 00:41:06.700 --> 00:41:10.540 but it was intended to provide 00:41:10.540 --> 00:41:12.660 kind of that variety of housing type. 00:41:12.660 --> 00:41:15.420 It also has private streets within it. 00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:17.180 And then those dimensional standards. 00:41:17.180 --> 00:41:19.260 And then we have the Razor Ranch Overlay District. 00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:20.860 That is one you're very familiar with. 00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:24.500 And that it was intended to provide that combination 00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:28.500 of land uses to encourage that real commercial district. 00:41:28.500 --> 00:41:32.460 And then you've got three proposed overlay districts 00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:35.300 you are gonna see in the near future. 00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:37.620 We have the Southeast Denton Residential Overlay. 00:41:37.620 --> 00:41:38.460 Let me back up. 00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:40.500 These stem from the Southeast Denton Area Plan. 00:41:40.500 --> 00:41:42.340 So these were a recommendation within that. 00:41:42.340 --> 00:41:45.260 So this is one of those action steps 00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:47.940 where we're creating the regulations. 00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:51.100 So the residential overlay community really wanted 00:41:51.100 --> 00:41:53.660 to make sure that the neighborhoods 00:41:53.660 --> 00:41:55.820 within Southeast Denton were protected. 00:41:55.820 --> 00:41:57.180 Not only in terms of use, 00:41:57.180 --> 00:41:59.220 but in terms of scale and character. 00:41:59.220 --> 00:42:02.700 And so that residential overlay is intended 00:42:02.700 --> 00:42:07.700 to make sure that we protect those neighborhoods. 00:42:07.700 --> 00:42:10.740 We also have a height limitation overlay 00:42:10.740 --> 00:42:13.460 and that will be coming forward. 00:42:13.460 --> 00:42:17.860 And that is area in blue on your screen. 00:42:17.860 --> 00:42:20.060 And that is just intended to make sure 00:42:20.060 --> 00:42:22.700 that any commercial development 00:42:22.700 --> 00:42:27.380 near residential areas is compatible. 00:42:27.380 --> 00:42:31.020 And then the Southeast Denton Live Work Overlay. 00:42:31.020 --> 00:42:33.500 I know you heard about that last meeting. 00:42:33.500 --> 00:42:35.660 So I won't go into detail with that. 00:42:35.660 --> 00:42:37.420 And that's the area in pink. 00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:40.740 That concludes my presentation. 00:42:40.740 --> 00:42:42.700 Sorry if it went along, but a little long, 00:42:42.700 --> 00:42:44.940 but I'm happy to answer any questions if you have them. 00:42:44.940 --> 00:42:48.220 Or Tina might jump in if I can't answer it. 00:42:48.220 --> 00:42:56.260 - What if a resident wanted to talk 00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:59.780 about an area plan for their community? 00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:02.900 I mean, is it the city that prompts these 00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:04.940 or is it residents that kind of says, 00:43:04.940 --> 00:43:07.260 "Hey, can we have an area plan over here?" 00:43:07.260 --> 00:43:09.580 - I'm gonna let Tina answer that. 00:43:09.580 --> 00:43:12.300 (laughing) 00:43:12.300 --> 00:43:14.100 I guess technically it could be both. 00:43:14.100 --> 00:43:18.980 You know, with the work that we've done here in Denton, 00:43:18.980 --> 00:43:20.580 I think it's, well, I think we've probably had 00:43:20.580 --> 00:43:23.500 kind of a combination because wasn't, 00:43:23.500 --> 00:43:25.460 not Price Street, the Oak Hickory Gateway, 00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:28.700 wasn't that really resident driven? 00:43:28.700 --> 00:43:29.620 It predates me. 00:43:29.620 --> 00:43:31.020 So I'm just trying to... 00:43:31.020 --> 00:43:35.460 I think, let's put it this way. 00:43:35.460 --> 00:43:37.900 I know Northeast, well, Northeast Denton's a great example. 00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:39.500 I know the residents in Northeast Denton 00:43:39.500 --> 00:43:43.140 were interested in having an area plan adopted 00:43:43.140 --> 00:43:44.580 for the area of the community. 00:43:44.580 --> 00:43:47.420 In fact, they drafted their own area plan. 00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:50.980 And as a result of some of the work they did, 00:43:50.980 --> 00:43:53.740 coupled with the timing coming out of our adoption 00:43:53.740 --> 00:43:55.660 of the comprehensive plan where we were prioritizing 00:43:55.660 --> 00:43:59.460 our future area plans, that is what kind of helped 00:43:59.460 --> 00:44:03.260 probably move that area up to number one on the list, 00:44:03.260 --> 00:44:05.900 not to mention, you know, some of the other development 00:44:05.900 --> 00:44:07.460 interests we were seeing within the area. 00:44:07.460 --> 00:44:11.100 But that was truly, I would say driven by residents, 00:44:11.100 --> 00:44:14.460 but also staff and elected officials in that case. 00:44:14.460 --> 00:44:18.380 So it's possible that residents could put forth, 00:44:18.380 --> 00:44:20.420 you know, we've come up with this list 00:44:20.420 --> 00:44:21.820 when we did the comprehensive plan. 00:44:21.820 --> 00:44:23.340 As Julie mentioned earlier, you know, 00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:24.940 we would probably revisit this list 00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:27.060 and see if those priority areas, you know, 00:44:27.060 --> 00:44:28.740 a four through 10 are still in the correct order 00:44:28.740 --> 00:44:32.460 if we were to do any future area plan. 00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:35.220 But also we'd take into consideration 00:44:35.220 --> 00:44:36.980 what we're hearing from the community. 00:44:38.420 --> 00:44:40.100 Sorry, that was kind of long-winded. 00:44:40.100 --> 00:44:42.180 I was thinking through that one. 00:44:42.180 --> 00:44:43.020 - No, it's okay. 00:44:43.020 --> 00:44:44.820 I just feel like my little neck of the woods, 00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:46.580 like it's like the forgotten stepchild. 00:44:46.580 --> 00:44:49.060 Like there's nothing happening over where I live. 00:44:49.060 --> 00:44:50.860 I don't even think it's on that map. 00:44:50.860 --> 00:44:53.900 - I think you raise a great question. 00:44:53.900 --> 00:44:58.460 So, I mean, if that's an area that the commission feels 00:44:58.460 --> 00:45:02.540 needs to be studied, you can make that recommendation. 00:45:02.540 --> 00:45:04.460 We could also work it through council's 00:45:04.460 --> 00:45:05.740 two minute pitch process. 00:45:05.740 --> 00:45:06.980 I'd have to give a little more thought to it, 00:45:06.980 --> 00:45:11.260 but if we were to go through and identify 00:45:11.260 --> 00:45:14.100 future area plans that would need to be done, 00:45:14.100 --> 00:45:16.260 we would look for that kind of feedback. 00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:18.140 - We just, we have a lot going on there. 00:45:18.140 --> 00:45:22.340 And because we're the very southern most part of Denton 00:45:22.340 --> 00:45:26.500 where it has a border with North Lake, 00:45:26.500 --> 00:45:29.100 like there's a lot of stuff happening there 00:45:29.100 --> 00:45:32.340 and a lot of concerns by current residents. 00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:36.300 And I'm sure once landmark starts opening up sales 00:45:36.300 --> 00:45:38.940 and we're gonna have residents there, 00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:41.500 there are also going to be some future concerns 00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:45.460 that I think people just don't even realize yet. 00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:46.780 - Yeah, I can understand why you say that. 00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:50.220 And, you know, it probably really hasn't crossed our minds 00:45:50.220 --> 00:45:51.860 in the past really to focus on the year 00:45:51.860 --> 00:45:54.220 because with the ropes and ranch zoning 00:45:54.220 --> 00:45:56.740 that was customized and put in place for that area, 00:45:56.740 --> 00:45:59.780 then you couple that with all of the work that was done 00:45:59.780 --> 00:46:03.540 with the formerly known as Hunter landmark development 00:46:03.540 --> 00:46:06.100 and coal ranch with the municipal management districts, 00:46:06.100 --> 00:46:07.660 the master plan community zoning 00:46:07.660 --> 00:46:09.220 that's already in place there. 00:46:09.220 --> 00:46:14.420 We might've felt like we had checked the box and moved on, 00:46:14.420 --> 00:46:17.340 but you're right, there's, you know, 00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:20.860 because it's already has the zoning entitlements in place, 00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:24.900 we probably haven't viewed that area as much of a priority, 00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:28.140 but it could definitely find itself resonating 00:46:28.140 --> 00:46:30.620 near the top of the list sooner or later. 00:46:30.620 --> 00:46:32.860 - Maybe this is a great conversation to have 00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:35.780 with Councilman Hall and myself and staff 00:46:35.780 --> 00:46:38.260 about what's happening over there 00:46:38.260 --> 00:46:42.860 and what are some potential immediate needs. 00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:46.220 - Yeah, I think that's fine. 00:46:46.220 --> 00:46:47.620 I would definitely love to sit down 00:46:47.620 --> 00:46:49.020 and visit with you further on it. 00:46:49.020 --> 00:46:52.020 And then we could, and then if you feel it's necessary 00:46:52.020 --> 00:46:54.140 to go to Councilman Hall and we can definitely talk 00:46:54.140 --> 00:46:55.700 about what those next steps might be 00:46:55.700 --> 00:46:57.060 or if that's a subsequent conversation 00:46:57.060 --> 00:46:58.780 with the planning and zoning commission, 00:46:58.780 --> 00:46:59.860 but we could look into that. 00:46:59.860 --> 00:47:02.020 I think Hillary has an idea too. 00:47:02.020 --> 00:47:03.740 - Oh, my idea is to take this offline 00:47:03.740 --> 00:47:05.620 so we stay to posting. 00:47:05.620 --> 00:47:06.980 - Oh, okay, all right. 00:47:06.980 --> 00:47:11.180 Thank you for putting me in check. 00:47:11.180 --> 00:47:16.180 - No, you could finish the, you got to the right place. 00:47:16.180 --> 00:47:17.580 - Okay, very good point. 00:47:17.580 --> 00:47:18.660 Any other questions? 00:47:18.660 --> 00:47:22.700 - I noticed on one of the slides you said 00:47:22.700 --> 00:47:24.820 as part of the planning is that the city 00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:26.580 hires a consultant. 00:47:26.580 --> 00:47:29.060 So a consultant usually writes 00:47:29.060 --> 00:47:31.980 the small area plans for the city. 00:47:31.980 --> 00:47:34.940 - You know, the city and Tina may wanna correct me 00:47:34.940 --> 00:47:38.500 or weigh in, but the city has done it both ways. 00:47:38.500 --> 00:47:41.100 They've done them in house. 00:47:41.100 --> 00:47:43.380 You know, they're pretty big projects 00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:44.860 and there are some communities 00:47:44.860 --> 00:47:46.500 that are called small area plans, 00:47:46.500 --> 00:47:50.660 but in Denton, we make them, we supersize our area plans. 00:47:50.660 --> 00:47:54.460 And so they're often so large 00:47:54.460 --> 00:47:56.580 that additional help is needed, 00:47:56.580 --> 00:47:58.220 but Tina may wanna weigh in. 00:47:58.220 --> 00:47:59.460 - Julie's right. 00:47:59.460 --> 00:48:01.500 We don't necessarily have to retain a consultant. 00:48:01.500 --> 00:48:02.740 On these area plans we did 00:48:02.740 --> 00:48:04.900 because of their size and scale, 00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:08.780 also with the size of our staff, we were limited, right? 00:48:08.780 --> 00:48:10.900 When we hire a consultant team, 00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:13.780 we really view them as an extension of our team, right? 00:48:13.780 --> 00:48:16.020 We are one project team. 00:48:16.020 --> 00:48:18.420 They just help provide an additional level of expertise 00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:20.940 that we may not necessarily have in house. 00:48:20.940 --> 00:48:24.460 And then, so we, you know, bring them to the table 00:48:24.460 --> 00:48:26.660 to be able to help us accomplish the effort. 00:48:26.660 --> 00:48:31.620 There are consultants who, in the case of Southeast Denton, 00:48:31.620 --> 00:48:34.300 one of the sub-consultants on that team 00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:35.620 has made it his life career 00:48:35.620 --> 00:48:38.580 working with communities that have experienced past harm. 00:48:38.580 --> 00:48:40.940 And so he really brought unique perspective 00:48:40.940 --> 00:48:42.420 in helping our team work with that 00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:44.900 'cause no one else on our team had that experience. 00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:46.900 And so we'll bring those consultants in 00:48:46.900 --> 00:48:48.900 for those levels of specialty experience. 00:48:48.900 --> 00:48:50.940 Our design downtown Denton plan, 00:48:50.940 --> 00:48:54.220 Zach and his team that we brought on, super helpful. 00:48:54.220 --> 00:48:56.300 They've done numerous downtown plans 00:48:56.300 --> 00:48:58.180 and really can speak to 00:48:58.180 --> 00:49:00.060 some successful implementation efforts 00:49:00.060 --> 00:49:01.980 'cause they've been involved in that as well. 00:49:01.980 --> 00:49:05.220 And so they, again, we're an extension of our team 00:49:05.220 --> 00:49:07.060 to allow us to be able to partner with them 00:49:07.060 --> 00:49:08.620 to help us create a plan 00:49:08.620 --> 00:49:11.540 that is most appropriate for our community. 00:49:11.540 --> 00:49:13.600 I viewed it also as an opportunity for my team 00:49:13.600 --> 00:49:15.180 to learn from those experts 00:49:15.180 --> 00:49:17.900 because then, you know, we've got great talent 00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:20.460 on our staff as well who, you know, 00:49:20.460 --> 00:49:22.140 depending upon the type of area plan 00:49:22.140 --> 00:49:22.980 that we were working on, 00:49:22.980 --> 00:49:25.620 it's possible we could accomplish it all in house. 00:49:25.620 --> 00:49:27.940 It's possible we might need to bring somebody on 00:49:27.940 --> 00:49:29.300 to help us with the effort. 00:49:29.300 --> 00:49:31.020 So it's not a must. 00:49:31.020 --> 00:49:33.100 It is definitely was a huge benefit for us 00:49:33.100 --> 00:49:34.700 on those particular two projects. 00:49:34.700 --> 00:49:37.360 And even on the Northeast Denton plan, 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.140 just given the level of public engagement 00:49:39.140 --> 00:49:40.500 that we were doing also on that plan 00:49:40.500 --> 00:49:42.500 and the complexities associated with it. 00:49:42.500 --> 00:49:47.540 - Just a comment. 00:49:47.540 --> 00:49:50.600 Can you go back to your slide that had frustrate on it? 00:49:50.600 --> 00:49:55.100 - The area plan or the overlay? 00:49:55.100 --> 00:49:59.100 - Well, which it has frustrated, is it the overlay? 00:49:59.100 --> 00:50:01.180 Where it gives us the date that was updated. 00:50:01.180 --> 00:50:04.120 That was the plan, I guess, the area plan. 00:50:04.120 --> 00:50:08.620 1999, gosh, that might need to be looked at 00:50:08.620 --> 00:50:09.980 just as a comment. 00:50:09.980 --> 00:50:12.140 I know it's not a priority and, you know, 00:50:12.140 --> 00:50:14.500 we've moved a lot of our businesses 00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:19.420 and activity from Fry Street to downtown. 00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:21.800 Not sure how long that's been in place, 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:26.800 but just speaking for my area of representation. 00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:32.900 - Yes, and so we adopted the Oak gateway area plan, 00:50:32.900 --> 00:50:37.580 those recommendations and vision. 00:50:37.580 --> 00:50:40.380 That one kind of enveloped Fry Street. 00:50:40.380 --> 00:50:43.800 I don't think it was necessarily focused on Fry Street. 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.180 So I think it kind of maybe split both, 00:50:47.180 --> 00:50:50.740 but yeah, it's something we'll take note of 00:50:50.740 --> 00:50:54.380 'cause they should be updated regularly. 00:50:54.380 --> 00:50:57.460 - Keep in mind, we have not, as I've understood it 00:50:57.460 --> 00:51:00.420 and I looked at Haley and Julie many times and Sean, 00:51:00.420 --> 00:51:03.820 because they have the most tenure here compared to myself. 00:51:03.820 --> 00:51:08.440 But we have done those area plans from time to time, 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.120 but we have not had like staff fully dedicated 00:51:11.120 --> 00:51:12.280 to be able to do those efforts. 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:14.460 A lot of times those area plans are done 00:51:14.460 --> 00:51:16.420 from a reactive point of view as well, 00:51:16.420 --> 00:51:18.300 just because of issues that are going on 00:51:18.300 --> 00:51:19.900 in a particular area of the community. 00:51:19.900 --> 00:51:23.500 And so we were able to allocate the resources 00:51:23.500 --> 00:51:25.780 to be able to do so. 00:51:25.780 --> 00:51:28.860 We're fortunate now with the size of the staff that we have 00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:31.200 and especially having kind of a small 00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:32.940 long range planning team. 00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:33.780 They're still responsible 00:51:33.780 --> 00:51:35.460 for doing development review as well. 00:51:35.460 --> 00:51:38.220 But we're a little better positioned for us 00:51:38.220 --> 00:51:40.860 to be able to do projects of this nature. 00:51:40.860 --> 00:51:45.500 So if it requires additional budgetary financial resources, 00:51:45.500 --> 00:51:48.780 then the projects are gonna be paused for the time being. 00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:51.500 But we definitely have the talent in-house 00:51:51.500 --> 00:51:53.700 where we can visit certain areas. 00:51:53.700 --> 00:51:56.060 And like I said, a lot of our effort, 00:51:56.060 --> 00:51:59.300 we're responsive to what is the Mesa or the foremost need, 00:51:59.300 --> 00:52:01.580 which the statutory requirements are the plats 00:52:01.580 --> 00:52:02.700 and the zoning compliance plans 00:52:02.700 --> 00:52:03.800 and the civil engineering plans. 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:05.880 But we do try to make sure that we have more of a focus 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.740 with our long range planning now, 00:52:07.740 --> 00:52:09.380 just because we have not fully benefited 00:52:09.380 --> 00:52:10.540 from that in the past. 00:52:10.540 --> 00:52:16.940 - Well, it takes time, right? 00:52:16.940 --> 00:52:19.060 - Thank you. - Thank you, Julie. 00:52:19.060 --> 00:52:22.600 So since y'all voted me as temporary chair, 00:52:22.600 --> 00:52:25.620 I have to go ahead and say, I missed something already. 00:52:25.620 --> 00:52:28.700 So we're gonna go back and review the regular agenda 00:52:28.700 --> 00:52:30.900 and we're gonna go to item four, 00:52:30.900 --> 00:52:33.540 items for individual consideration. 00:52:33.540 --> 00:52:36.140 Now we're gonna talk about, to start off, 00:52:36.140 --> 00:52:41.140 plat FP25-0018, Mia? 00:52:41.140 --> 00:52:42.580 - Yes, sir. 00:52:42.580 --> 00:52:45.100 Oh, I'm not trying to go to Zoom. 00:52:45.100 --> 00:52:47.740 That's gonna pop up, so, so sorry. 00:52:47.740 --> 00:52:51.500 Okay, combined plots. 00:52:52.600 --> 00:52:55.340 (mouse clicking) 00:52:55.340 --> 00:53:02.020 Okay, Mia Hines, senior planner. 00:53:02.020 --> 00:53:05.740 This item is a final plat for Hickory Grove, phase four. 00:53:05.740 --> 00:53:08.700 The Hickory Grove subdivision is located 00:53:08.700 --> 00:53:11.100 within a municipal utility district 00:53:11.100 --> 00:53:13.900 located just north of West University Drive 00:53:13.900 --> 00:53:18.540 with the previous phases sort of moving north, northwest. 00:53:18.540 --> 00:53:22.900 This phase, phase four, is approximately 80 feet east 00:53:22.900 --> 00:53:25.420 of Nail and Jackson Road, 00:53:25.420 --> 00:53:28.080 or the intersection of Nail and Jackson Road 00:53:28.080 --> 00:53:32.240 and includes approximately 115 acres. 00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:34.860 At this time, the plat is not ready, 00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:36.940 or does not meet all the criteria for approval 00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:40.540 as presented in the DDC, so staff is recommending denial. 00:53:40.540 --> 00:53:43.500 However, we have no objection to the requested extension, 00:53:43.500 --> 00:53:47.500 which could be granted to June 25th, 2025. 00:53:47.500 --> 00:53:48.460 Any questions? 00:53:48.460 --> 00:53:56.260 - So what exactly is not meeting the requirements right now? 00:53:56.260 --> 00:53:58.660 - I believe with this one, it's some minor things. 00:53:58.660 --> 00:54:00.340 I know that they have some notes. 00:54:00.340 --> 00:54:03.340 It's provided in the backup for sure on the staff analysis, 00:54:03.340 --> 00:54:06.380 but there are some notes related to gas wells, 00:54:06.380 --> 00:54:09.740 and then there's some minor sort of detailed things 00:54:09.740 --> 00:54:11.300 on the plat that they need to address. 00:54:11.300 --> 00:54:13.700 For the most part, lot sizes, the orientation, 00:54:13.700 --> 00:54:15.640 it's in line with the phasing plan 00:54:15.640 --> 00:54:16.640 that was adopted for this, 00:54:16.640 --> 00:54:18.740 so the bigger picture stuff there, they're ready, 00:54:18.740 --> 00:54:23.300 and I suspect that they should have it ready for approval 00:54:23.300 --> 00:54:24.820 by that next extension date, 00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:27.820 if that works out with the submittal calendar, 00:54:27.820 --> 00:54:29.580 which I believe it does. 00:54:29.580 --> 00:54:31.080 - Okay, any other questions? 00:54:31.080 --> 00:54:38.500 - Excuse me, so is the applicant asking for the extension? 00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:40.580 - Yes, ma'am. - Thank you. 00:54:40.580 --> 00:54:42.960 - And that is provided as exhibit six, 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.500 or five, I believe, in your backup. 00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:50.060 - And we tend to get a lot of these each meeting, 00:54:50.060 --> 00:54:52.580 so, okay, well, thank you. 00:54:52.580 --> 00:54:53.700 - Yes, sir. 00:54:53.700 --> 00:54:58.700 - We'll move on then to item 4B, FP25-0020. 00:54:58.700 --> 00:55:00.860 Matt. 00:55:00.860 --> 00:55:08.660 - Good evening, commission. 00:55:08.660 --> 00:55:11.420 Matt Bodine, assistant planner, 00:55:11.420 --> 00:55:15.860 here to present a final plat 00:55:16.660 --> 00:55:21.620 located approximately 610 feet west of Teesley Lane 00:55:21.620 --> 00:55:24.300 along Hickory Creek Road. 00:55:24.300 --> 00:55:26.700 This is about a 10 and a half acre tract 00:55:26.700 --> 00:55:30.940 for the development of a self-service storage facility. 00:55:30.940 --> 00:55:33.940 At this time, the plat does not yet meet 00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:35.940 our criteria for approval, 00:55:35.940 --> 00:55:38.940 though they are requesting an extension of the review time 00:55:38.940 --> 00:55:41.380 to a date certain of June 25th, 00:55:41.380 --> 00:55:45.420 and staff has no objection to their extension request. 00:55:45.420 --> 00:55:47.480 Here to answer any questions. 00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.020 - Okay, any questions? 00:55:51.020 --> 00:55:55.640 All right, Matt, thanks. - All right. 00:55:55.640 --> 00:56:00.340 - Okay, that being said, 00:56:00.340 --> 00:56:02.700 we'll jump back over into our work session mode. 00:56:15.080 --> 00:56:16.100 - Okay, well, I've just been told 00:56:16.100 --> 00:56:17.500 there's a very important notice. 00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:19.100 Dinner is here, so we're gonna pause, 00:56:19.100 --> 00:56:20.380 let everybody get some dinner, 00:56:20.380 --> 00:56:21.260 and then we'll come back 00:56:21.260 --> 00:56:24.580 and we'll go back into our work session, so. 00:56:24.580 --> 00:56:27.300 - Okay, I'm gonna call back to order our work session. 00:56:27.300 --> 00:56:30.940 The time is 616, and to move on, 00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.940 we're going to our work session item 4B. 00:56:33.940 --> 00:56:38.880 Oh, no, I'm sorry. 00:56:42.580 --> 00:56:47.580 Yep, 4B, PZ25-131. 00:56:47.580 --> 00:56:50.220 All right, Mia. 00:56:50.220 --> 00:56:54.780 Oh, also, before you get started, Mia, 00:56:54.780 --> 00:56:56.020 for the sake of time, 00:56:56.020 --> 00:56:58.920 let's just hold all questions until the very end, 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.700 and that way we can make sure that we get through it. 00:57:00.700 --> 00:57:02.100 - Cool. - Yeah, thank you. 00:57:02.100 --> 00:57:05.900 - Mia Hines, senior planner. 00:57:05.900 --> 00:57:10.340 This item or this work session bootcamp presentation 00:57:10.340 --> 00:57:13.100 is essentially all other applications. 00:57:13.100 --> 00:57:15.320 This is everything but the kitchen sink, a little bit. 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:16.500 Of all other applications 00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:18.380 that the Planning and Zoning Commission considers 00:57:18.380 --> 00:57:21.180 that doesn't necessarily fall in line with 00:57:21.180 --> 00:57:23.220 or fall into the categories of like plats 00:57:23.220 --> 00:57:24.300 and other things that we've covered 00:57:24.300 --> 00:57:27.180 within this bootcamp series. 00:57:27.180 --> 00:57:30.100 So, so far, I just want to show this slide 00:57:30.100 --> 00:57:33.100 because so far, to remind you all what we've covered, 00:57:33.100 --> 00:57:34.540 Julie just did a great presentation 00:57:34.540 --> 00:57:37.260 over the area plans and zoning overlays. 00:57:37.260 --> 00:57:39.940 Earlier this year, I did that planning one-on-one bootcamp 00:57:39.940 --> 00:57:40.820 that talked a little bit about 00:57:40.820 --> 00:57:43.860 comprehensive planning process as well as the overview 00:57:43.860 --> 00:57:45.340 of some of the development applications 00:57:45.340 --> 00:57:47.220 and process that you all see. 00:57:47.220 --> 00:57:50.020 We've also done zoning and PDs, 00:57:50.020 --> 00:57:53.420 SUPs, annexations, platting, and subdivision variances, 00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:55.820 and today's presentation, 00:57:55.820 --> 00:57:59.140 we are gonna be talking about alternative ESA plans, 00:57:59.140 --> 00:58:03.500 historic landmarks and district designations, 00:58:03.500 --> 00:58:06.840 DDC tax amendments, policy plan amendments a little bit, 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.540 and then some special zoning compliance plan applications 00:58:10.540 --> 00:58:14.140 that the commission is responsible for reviewing. 00:58:14.140 --> 00:58:17.660 So we'll start with those alternative 00:58:17.660 --> 00:58:22.660 environmentally sensitive area plans or the AESA plans. 00:58:22.660 --> 00:58:27.380 For a little overview about what we're talking about here 00:58:27.380 --> 00:58:29.300 are those environmentally sensitive areas, 00:58:29.300 --> 00:58:32.300 specifically cross timbers upland habitat, 00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:35.020 riparian buffer or water-related habitat areas, 00:58:35.020 --> 00:58:36.580 and undeveloped floodplain. 00:58:36.580 --> 00:58:38.780 Those cross timber upland habitat areas 00:58:38.780 --> 00:58:41.740 are those remnants of eastern cross timber forests 00:58:41.740 --> 00:58:42.700 within the city. 00:58:42.700 --> 00:58:46.340 That riparian buffer area is the area within 50 to 100 feet 00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:48.180 of the centerline of a stream, 00:58:48.180 --> 00:58:50.900 just depending on the watershed size, 00:58:50.900 --> 00:58:52.980 and then the undeveloped floodplain is that area 00:58:52.980 --> 00:58:55.060 within the FEMA 100-year floodplain. 00:58:55.060 --> 00:58:58.860 And essentially, the DDC has different ways 00:58:58.860 --> 00:59:00.940 that these areas are to be preserved 00:59:00.940 --> 00:59:05.940 or if developed in how they are to be treated. 00:59:06.100 --> 00:59:08.900 The alternative ESA plan provides an opportunities 00:59:08.900 --> 00:59:13.300 for developers to offer things outside 00:59:13.300 --> 00:59:15.980 of what the DDC would allow for, 00:59:15.980 --> 00:59:17.780 but still within certain limits 00:59:17.780 --> 00:59:21.500 that ultimately yield to a higher quality engineered plan 00:59:21.500 --> 00:59:25.220 and mitigation for environmentally sensitive areas 00:59:25.220 --> 00:59:27.500 in relation to developments. 00:59:27.500 --> 00:59:30.540 So typically, Christy Upton is usually the one 00:59:30.540 --> 00:59:33.900 that presents alternative ESA plans to you all, 00:59:33.900 --> 00:59:36.740 and she'll come to you with a little bit of information 00:59:36.740 --> 00:59:37.780 similar to this. 00:59:37.780 --> 00:59:41.140 Well, she'll start off with the ESA field assessment 00:59:41.140 --> 00:59:42.700 sort of site inventory, 00:59:42.700 --> 00:59:45.900 letting you all know what environmentally sensitive areas 00:59:45.900 --> 00:59:48.980 specifically are on the site of the proposed development. 00:59:48.980 --> 00:59:50.500 She'll also provide some information 00:59:50.500 --> 00:59:52.100 on the proposed development itself, 00:59:52.100 --> 00:59:54.380 what land uses are being proposed, 00:59:54.380 --> 00:59:59.380 as well as sort of how the environmentally sensitive areas 00:59:59.380 --> 01:00:01.300 are to be disturbed. 01:00:01.300 --> 01:00:03.700 And then she'll provide you with a mitigation plan 01:00:03.700 --> 01:00:05.900 that the engineering or the developers 01:00:05.900 --> 01:00:07.780 provides the city staff for review 01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:11.620 that lists how the development proposes 01:00:11.620 --> 01:00:14.460 with their disturbance 01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:16.420 of these environmentally sensitive areas, 01:00:16.420 --> 01:00:18.940 how they propose to sort of mitigate for that 01:00:18.940 --> 01:00:22.460 and ultimately develop a higher quality product. 01:00:22.460 --> 01:00:25.340 So that's ESAs. 01:00:25.340 --> 01:00:29.100 Next is historic landmarks and districts. 01:00:29.100 --> 01:00:32.860 I start with this slide to make sure we're sort of all clear 01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:35.300 on the difference between a historic landmark 01:00:35.300 --> 01:00:38.220 and a conservation or historic district. 01:00:38.220 --> 01:00:40.820 Notably, historic landmarks are those buildings, 01:00:40.820 --> 01:00:44.060 districts, objects, sites, or structures 01:00:44.060 --> 01:00:46.820 that are recognized by the state or the US nationally. 01:00:46.820 --> 01:00:48.420 They come with a plaque of some sort. 01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:50.340 And those conservation and historic districts 01:00:50.340 --> 01:00:52.060 are more like zoning overlays 01:00:52.060 --> 01:00:53.780 that we just sort of learned about 01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:55.260 that are recognized at a city level 01:00:55.260 --> 01:00:58.220 and passed locally at a city level. 01:00:58.220 --> 01:01:01.700 So here's some examples of some of those landmarks 01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:03.460 and districts that we have in the city. 01:01:03.460 --> 01:01:05.900 Landmarks are included in those images on the left. 01:01:05.900 --> 01:01:09.300 The courthouse, for example, is one of those landmarks. 01:01:09.300 --> 01:01:11.780 The districts, like I said, are more like an overlay. 01:01:11.780 --> 01:01:14.300 So those maps that you see there to the right, 01:01:14.300 --> 01:01:17.180 we have that Oak Hickory Historic District, 01:01:17.180 --> 01:01:18.660 that Belle Avenue Historic District, 01:01:18.660 --> 01:01:20.740 and that West Oak Historic District 01:01:20.740 --> 01:01:23.820 that all come with, as Julie stated, 01:01:23.820 --> 01:01:25.900 some additional design requirements and standards 01:01:25.900 --> 01:01:29.980 to sort of preserve the historic character in that area. 01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:31.820 Where this body comes into play 01:01:31.820 --> 01:01:37.940 is after the Historic Landmark Commission reviews 01:01:37.940 --> 01:01:41.220 these applications for historic significance. 01:01:41.220 --> 01:01:43.540 This body provides a recommendation to the city council 01:01:43.540 --> 01:01:46.220 and then they ultimately make a decision. 01:01:46.220 --> 01:01:48.980 This is a little bit different, 01:01:48.980 --> 01:01:51.340 not too many applications that this body sees 01:01:51.340 --> 01:01:54.140 also is seen by other boards. 01:01:54.140 --> 01:01:55.980 So Cameron typically provides, 01:01:55.980 --> 01:01:57.540 she's our historic preservation officer, 01:01:57.540 --> 01:01:59.260 she typically provides an overview 01:01:59.260 --> 01:02:02.220 of those presentations when that comes forward. 01:02:02.220 --> 01:02:06.980 And then this, once those items are passed, 01:02:06.980 --> 01:02:11.980 is a map showing all of the city's historic districts 01:02:11.980 --> 01:02:15.980 as well as all the historic landmarks. 01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:18.780 So those dots are the historic landmark points 01:02:18.780 --> 01:02:19.740 that we have throughout the city, 01:02:19.740 --> 01:02:23.220 and then the sort of shaded area are those districts. 01:02:23.220 --> 01:02:25.780 And this is available on the city's website as well. 01:02:27.340 --> 01:02:30.220 Okay, so the next category or the next type of application 01:02:30.220 --> 01:02:34.900 and I wanna talk about is the DDC text amendments. 01:02:34.900 --> 01:02:36.940 These are simply what they are. 01:02:36.940 --> 01:02:39.340 They are amendments to the regulations 01:02:39.340 --> 01:02:41.740 as provided in the DIN development code. 01:02:41.740 --> 01:02:46.060 And this body is a recommendation body for that, 01:02:46.060 --> 01:02:48.380 and then city council approves it ultimately. 01:02:48.380 --> 01:02:54.700 DDC amendments are initiated 01:02:54.700 --> 01:02:56.660 through various different reasons. 01:02:56.660 --> 01:02:58.420 Sometimes it's city direction, 01:02:58.420 --> 01:03:02.740 city council has asked staff to take up a specific task. 01:03:02.740 --> 01:03:05.220 Or sometimes there's industry changes or challenges 01:03:05.220 --> 01:03:07.340 that we as staff have noticed 01:03:07.340 --> 01:03:08.700 throughout the development process 01:03:08.700 --> 01:03:10.180 or something along those lines. 01:03:10.180 --> 01:03:12.020 And we sort of feel that there is a need 01:03:12.020 --> 01:03:14.780 to take the initiative and update the code 01:03:14.780 --> 01:03:17.620 to meet those challenges. 01:03:17.620 --> 01:03:20.300 And then sometimes it's legislative challenges and changes. 01:03:20.300 --> 01:03:23.700 So I know we're, excuse me, in a session right now 01:03:23.700 --> 01:03:25.060 where we're gonna probably have to develop 01:03:25.060 --> 01:03:27.140 or update our DIN development code 01:03:27.140 --> 01:03:29.620 with one of these DDC amendments 01:03:29.620 --> 01:03:32.740 or a few of these DDC amendment text 01:03:32.740 --> 01:03:35.940 because of we're having to respond to legislative changes 01:03:35.940 --> 01:03:37.740 and things at the state level. 01:03:37.740 --> 01:03:40.980 Once that idea starts for DDC text amendments, 01:03:40.980 --> 01:03:43.580 we move on to staff research and analysis. 01:03:43.580 --> 01:03:45.380 That's done throughout the whole process, 01:03:45.380 --> 01:03:47.420 but a part of that research and analysis 01:03:47.420 --> 01:03:50.260 is community engagement as well as sometimes, 01:03:50.260 --> 01:03:51.140 depending on the topic, 01:03:51.140 --> 01:03:54.340 taking it forward to the development code review committee, 01:03:54.340 --> 01:03:56.020 which is made up of some of this body 01:03:56.020 --> 01:03:57.780 and some of city council. 01:03:57.780 --> 01:03:59.980 Once we've done all that research and analysis back and forth, 01:03:59.980 --> 01:04:02.140 staff will form a recommendation on the topic 01:04:02.140 --> 01:04:03.540 and those amendment changes. 01:04:03.540 --> 01:04:06.020 And then it'll come before this body. 01:04:06.020 --> 01:04:07.540 This body will make a recommendation. 01:04:07.540 --> 01:04:10.500 City council will make a final decision 01:04:10.500 --> 01:04:13.860 and then it'll be added to the DDC as an update. 01:04:13.860 --> 01:04:20.660 The next class of application that I wanna talk about 01:04:20.660 --> 01:04:23.260 is comprehensive plan amendments. 01:04:23.260 --> 01:04:25.420 Like I said, we did that comprehensive planning process 01:04:25.420 --> 01:04:26.860 overview in February. 01:04:26.860 --> 01:04:28.420 Julie just gave a good presentation 01:04:28.420 --> 01:04:30.860 over area planning and that nature, 01:04:30.860 --> 01:04:33.460 but I just wanted to just a little bit talk about 01:04:33.460 --> 01:04:37.500 or mention that this application process 01:04:37.500 --> 01:04:39.060 does come before this body. 01:04:39.060 --> 01:04:42.420 And of course, in the event that any of the codes 01:04:42.420 --> 01:04:46.020 that Julie mentioned needs to be amended, 01:04:46.020 --> 01:04:49.220 you all would be a part of that process. 01:04:49.220 --> 01:04:52.020 This is that future land use map 01:04:52.020 --> 01:04:56.860 that's adopted with the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan. 01:04:56.860 --> 01:04:59.180 Typically when a cop plan amendments 01:04:59.180 --> 01:05:01.140 just plain come before you all, 01:05:01.140 --> 01:05:05.260 it is to amend a future land use designation on this map. 01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:07.780 So it's to change one color to another, 01:05:07.780 --> 01:05:11.060 and of course what that color represents. 01:05:11.060 --> 01:05:13.540 An example could be one of the things 01:05:13.540 --> 01:05:16.140 that we're considering I think is the 380 corridor area, 01:05:16.140 --> 01:05:18.580 potentially doing a comprehensive plan amendment 01:05:18.580 --> 01:05:20.460 in that area that would ultimately change 01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:23.300 what that future land use designation is for that area. 01:05:23.300 --> 01:05:26.340 Similarly, you have a mobility plan amendment 01:05:26.340 --> 01:05:28.260 on your agenda this evening. 01:05:28.260 --> 01:05:31.660 And typically it is a request to change one of the colors 01:05:31.660 --> 01:05:33.140 on this map essentially. 01:05:33.140 --> 01:05:37.580 And that's either reclassifying one of the roadways 01:05:37.580 --> 01:05:44.580 shown on this map or adjusting the structure of those. 01:05:44.580 --> 01:05:48.380 And then lastly, one of the other things 01:05:48.380 --> 01:05:49.980 or the other thing that I wanted to mention 01:05:49.980 --> 01:05:53.060 was those special sort of one-off site plan applications 01:05:53.060 --> 01:05:56.940 that this body has to review every once in a while. 01:05:56.940 --> 01:05:58.340 And typically in the past, 01:05:58.340 --> 01:06:00.700 our plan development districts require the adoption 01:06:00.700 --> 01:06:04.020 of a detailed site plan prior to development 01:06:04.020 --> 01:06:05.420 being allowed to develop. 01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:07.820 And so those will come back before this body. 01:06:07.820 --> 01:06:09.740 The plan development amendment actually 01:06:09.740 --> 01:06:13.540 that I have on tonight's agenda came before this body, 01:06:13.540 --> 01:06:15.460 I believe in July of last year, 01:06:15.460 --> 01:06:18.220 with a detailed site plan for that to be adopted. 01:06:18.220 --> 01:06:20.420 So you'll see cases like that. 01:06:20.420 --> 01:06:21.500 And then one of the other cases, 01:06:21.500 --> 01:06:24.140 I think that I'll have one of these next month 01:06:24.140 --> 01:06:26.900 is a razor ranch overlay site plan 01:06:26.900 --> 01:06:28.580 or zoning compliance plan, 01:06:28.580 --> 01:06:30.580 which per that overlay standards, 01:06:30.580 --> 01:06:33.340 all site plans for development south of 380 01:06:33.340 --> 01:06:36.020 has to come before this body for final approval. 01:06:36.020 --> 01:06:38.060 So typically if it's a site plan 01:06:38.060 --> 01:06:39.580 as a part of a plan development amendment 01:06:39.580 --> 01:06:41.380 or something along those lines, 01:06:41.380 --> 01:06:43.660 that comes to this body for recommendation. 01:06:43.660 --> 01:06:45.700 And then because it's an ordinance and a zoning change, 01:06:45.700 --> 01:06:48.940 it does have to get approved, final approval by city council. 01:06:48.940 --> 01:06:50.460 Those razor ranch applications, 01:06:50.460 --> 01:06:53.840 this body is the final recommending or approval body. 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.240 And this is an example of that. 01:06:57.240 --> 01:06:59.620 This one is for that Razor Town Center. 01:06:59.620 --> 01:07:03.540 That's a multifamily development south of 380, 01:07:03.540 --> 01:07:04.820 located in Razor. 01:07:04.820 --> 01:07:07.860 And typically I'll present the basic facts 01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:09.180 of what the development is proposing, 01:07:09.180 --> 01:07:11.300 the site plans, landscape plans, 01:07:11.300 --> 01:07:13.660 elevations and things of that nature. 01:07:13.660 --> 01:07:17.340 And then how it stacks up against the criteria for approval. 01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:21.700 That pretty much concludes my presentation. 01:07:21.700 --> 01:07:24.580 I know that was a lot of different topic areas, 01:07:24.580 --> 01:07:27.220 but I'll happily take any questions or comments 01:07:27.220 --> 01:07:28.740 that you have at this time. 01:07:28.740 --> 01:07:34.540 - Okay, any questions? 01:07:34.540 --> 01:07:37.360 All right, good job. 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:38.200 Thank you. 01:07:43.660 --> 01:07:44.500 Thank you. 01:07:44.500 --> 01:07:50.580 - Okay, well, with that being said, that's all we have. 01:07:50.580 --> 01:07:54.460 So I'm gonna adjourn the work session at 6.27 PM. 01:07:54.460 --> 01:08:00.100 - Good evening. 01:08:00.100 --> 01:08:01.780 Welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission 01:08:01.780 --> 01:08:03.220 meeting tonight. 01:08:03.220 --> 01:08:04.840 I'll be acting chair tonight, 01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:08.460 and I will call this meeting to order at 6.42. 01:08:08.460 --> 01:08:12.800 And with that being said, we do have a quorum present. 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:14.860 So the next order of business is to move on 01:08:14.860 --> 01:08:17.500 to the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. flag, Texas flag. 01:08:17.500 --> 01:08:19.100 So please stand and join me. 01:08:19.100 --> 01:08:21.060 Pledge of Allegiance. 01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:26.300 - I pledge allegiance to the flag 01:08:26.300 --> 01:08:28.620 of the United States of America, 01:08:28.620 --> 01:08:31.420 and to the republic for which it stands, 01:08:31.420 --> 01:08:34.980 one nation under God, indivisible, 01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:37.140 with liberty and justice for all. 01:08:37.140 --> 01:08:42.700 - On the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the city 01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:47.700 of Texas, one state, under God, one indivisible. 01:08:47.700 --> 01:08:53.920 - Okay. 01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:57.620 Moving on, I just wanted to make an order of business. 01:08:57.620 --> 01:09:02.000 So item 5A on the public, 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.980 on the, yeah, it's on the public hearing portion 01:09:05.980 --> 01:09:07.620 has been withdrawn. 01:09:07.620 --> 01:09:09.340 So that will not be considered tonight. 01:09:09.340 --> 01:09:12.000 We will move on to the next items. 01:09:12.740 --> 01:09:17.740 So that takes us moving on to item 2A. 01:09:17.740 --> 01:09:21.700 Basically consider approval of planning 01:09:21.700 --> 01:09:24.220 and zoning minutes from the last meeting. 01:09:24.220 --> 01:09:26.180 Commissioner McDuff during the work session 01:09:26.180 --> 01:09:28.660 pointed out that there were some errors, 01:09:28.660 --> 01:09:30.700 mainly editorial, clerical errors. 01:09:30.700 --> 01:09:32.660 So we're actually gonna push that, 01:09:32.660 --> 01:09:35.380 and we will consider that at the next meeting. 01:09:35.380 --> 01:09:38.660 And then that takes us on to the consent agenda. 01:09:38.660 --> 01:09:42.020 And so if there are no questions on the consent agenda, 01:09:42.020 --> 01:09:43.580 I will entertain a motion. 01:09:43.580 --> 01:09:53.980 Commissioner Dyer. 01:09:53.980 --> 01:09:56.980 - I make a motion that we approve the consent agenda 01:09:56.980 --> 01:09:58.540 as presented. 01:09:58.540 --> 01:09:59.380 - Okay. 01:09:59.380 --> 01:10:00.500 Commissioner McDade. 01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:01.880 - I'll second the motion. 01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:03.820 - Okay, let's vote. 01:10:11.460 --> 01:10:14.580 Okay, with that, the consent agenda item passes. 01:10:14.580 --> 01:10:20.580 And that moves us on to items for individual consideration. 01:10:20.580 --> 01:10:26.940 Item 4A, FP25-0018, Mia. 01:10:26.940 --> 01:10:37.940 - Good evening, members of the commission. 01:10:37.940 --> 01:10:39.580 Mia Hines, senior planner. 01:10:40.700 --> 01:10:44.180 This item is a final plat of Hickory Grove, phase four. 01:10:44.180 --> 01:10:45.820 This property is located 01:10:45.820 --> 01:10:47.460 within a municipal utility district 01:10:47.460 --> 01:10:49.980 located just north of West University, 01:10:49.980 --> 01:10:53.720 or between West University, US 380, and Jackson Road. 01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:58.060 This phase, phase four, is approximately 80 miles east 01:10:58.060 --> 01:11:02.220 of Jackson Road and FM 156 North. 01:11:02.220 --> 01:11:03.860 At this time, the plat is not meeting 01:11:03.860 --> 01:11:05.220 all of our criteria for approval, 01:11:05.220 --> 01:11:06.780 so we are recommending denial. 01:11:06.780 --> 01:11:08.740 However, we have no objection 01:11:08.740 --> 01:11:11.020 to the applicant-requested extension 01:11:11.020 --> 01:11:14.360 to a date certain of June 25th, 2025. 01:11:14.360 --> 01:11:16.420 At this time, I will take any questions. 01:11:16.420 --> 01:11:20.580 - Okay, are there any questions for Mia? 01:11:20.580 --> 01:11:23.820 I'm gonna entertain a motion. 01:11:23.820 --> 01:11:24.660 Thanks, Mia. 01:11:24.660 --> 01:11:37.580 Commissioner McDuff. 01:11:38.940 --> 01:11:41.040 - Motion to approve the extension. 01:11:41.040 --> 01:11:47.140 - Okay, to the date certain of June 25th, okay, okay. 01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:50.780 - I'll second the motion. 01:11:50.780 --> 01:11:53.380 - Okay, let's vote. 01:11:53.380 --> 01:12:05.620 Okay, and the item passes. 01:12:05.620 --> 01:12:10.620 That takes us on to item 4B, FP25-0020. 01:12:10.620 --> 01:12:15.560 Matt. 01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.300 - Good evening, Commission. 01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:20.340 Matt Bodine, Assistant Planner, 01:12:20.340 --> 01:12:22.460 here to present a request for approval 01:12:22.460 --> 01:12:24.420 of the final plat of lot one, 01:12:24.420 --> 01:12:27.740 block B, Hickory Creek Center addition. 01:12:27.740 --> 01:12:30.220 The approximately 10 and a half acre track 01:12:30.220 --> 01:12:33.140 is located on the south side of Hickory Street, 01:12:33.140 --> 01:12:36.660 about 610 feet west of Teesley Lane, 01:12:36.660 --> 01:12:38.860 and this is for the purpose of developing 01:12:38.860 --> 01:12:41.740 a self-service storage facility. 01:12:41.740 --> 01:12:43.980 At this time, the final plat does not meet 01:12:43.980 --> 01:12:47.340 our criteria for approval, so we cannot recommend approval. 01:12:47.340 --> 01:12:50.300 However, we have no objection to the requested 01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:54.020 plat review extension to a date certain of June 25th. 01:12:54.020 --> 01:12:59.980 - Okay, are there any questions for Matt? 01:12:59.980 --> 01:13:01.580 If not, I'll entertain a motion. 01:13:03.580 --> 01:13:05.580 - Okay, Commissioner McDuff. 01:13:05.580 --> 01:13:09.260 - Motion to approve this first extension. 01:13:09.260 --> 01:13:19.260 - To the date certain June 25th? 01:13:19.260 --> 01:13:21.780 - To a date certain of June 25th. 01:13:21.780 --> 01:13:23.200 - Okay, Commissioner McDade. 01:13:23.200 --> 01:13:25.520 - I'll second the motion. 01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:28.460 - Okay, let's vote. 01:13:33.140 --> 01:13:38.140 - Okay, motion passes. 01:13:38.140 --> 01:13:43.220 That takes us, moves us on to item five, public hearings. 01:13:43.220 --> 01:13:48.220 And as a reminder, item 5A, MPA 24-003 has been withdrawn, 01:13:48.220 --> 01:13:52.000 and so it will not be considered tonight. 01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:57.000 That takes us on to item 5B, PDA 25-0003. 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:01.980 It is a public hearing, 01:14:01.980 --> 01:14:04.620 so I'm gonna open the public hearing at this time. 01:14:04.620 --> 01:14:12.620 - Chair, acting chair, I am concerned that I have a conflict 01:14:12.620 --> 01:14:16.700 of interest on this item and would need to recuse myself 01:14:16.700 --> 01:14:20.520 if I hear the merits of this case. 01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:22.500 Therefore, I'd like to make a motion 01:14:22.500 --> 01:14:24.820 to continue this public hearing 01:14:24.820 --> 01:14:29.820 to the commissioner's next meeting of June 25th, 2025, 01:14:30.900 --> 01:14:35.220 to allow more commissioners present to hear this request 01:14:35.220 --> 01:14:40.360 that would meet a quorum if lost this evening. 01:14:40.360 --> 01:14:46.940 Excuse me. 01:14:46.940 --> 01:14:47.980 - Okay, we have a motion. 01:14:47.980 --> 01:14:48.980 Do we have a second? 01:14:48.980 --> 01:15:00.460 - Can I ask a question first 01:15:00.460 --> 01:15:02.140 before we second? 01:15:02.140 --> 01:15:05.180 Will there be enough time to get notice out? 01:15:05.180 --> 01:15:07.020 Do you have to send another notice out 01:15:07.020 --> 01:15:08.620 before the next meeting? 01:15:08.620 --> 01:15:11.540 - Since her motion is to a date certain of June 25th, 01:15:11.540 --> 01:15:12.380 no, we would not. 01:15:12.380 --> 01:15:17.340 So this serves, if this request is approved 01:15:17.340 --> 01:15:18.940 by the commission, that serves as notice 01:15:18.940 --> 01:15:20.660 to the applicant and anybody that's here 01:15:20.660 --> 01:15:21.980 that might be interested in it, 01:15:21.980 --> 01:15:24.340 that it's being continued to the 25th. 01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:26.020 - Okay, I'll go ahead and second. 01:15:29.220 --> 01:15:31.980 - Okay, we have a motion and a second to continue. 01:15:31.980 --> 01:15:32.800 Let's vote. 01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:45.580 Okay, motion unanimously passes to hold this, 01:15:45.580 --> 01:15:48.340 basically to push it to the next meeting. 01:15:48.340 --> 01:15:53.340 Okay, that takes us on to item 5C, MPA 250001. 01:15:53.340 --> 01:15:58.860 Well, actually, let me close the public hearing 01:15:58.860 --> 01:16:01.260 for item 5B, that item. 01:16:01.260 --> 01:16:02.420 - Actually, you're gonna leave it open 01:16:02.420 --> 01:16:03.540 since we continued it. 01:16:03.540 --> 01:16:06.060 - Oh, well, nevermind, I'll correct it again. 01:16:06.060 --> 01:16:08.020 We're leaving that open. 01:16:08.020 --> 01:16:09.220 So we'll leave that one open 01:16:09.220 --> 01:16:12.700 and we will open item 5C, MPA 250001. 01:16:12.700 --> 01:16:24.700 - Good evening, commissioners. 01:16:24.700 --> 01:16:26.380 My name is Saharis Van Yeri, 01:16:26.380 --> 01:16:28.060 Senior Transportation Planner, 01:16:28.060 --> 01:16:29.780 Development Services. 01:16:29.780 --> 01:16:33.340 Tonight, I'd like to discuss about a mobility plan amendment 01:16:33.340 --> 01:16:37.140 for Underwood, Springside, and Corbyn Road. 01:16:37.140 --> 01:16:39.060 But before I go any further, 01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:42.400 let me talk a little bit about the mobility plan. 01:16:42.400 --> 01:16:45.320 Mobility plan, just like a comprehensive plan, 01:16:45.320 --> 01:16:46.980 is a long-range plan. 01:16:46.980 --> 01:16:49.740 And the current mobility plan was adopted 01:16:49.740 --> 01:16:54.580 by the city council on March 22nd 01:16:54.580 --> 01:16:58.900 as a part of the comprehensive plan for 2040. 01:16:58.900 --> 01:17:02.740 So the mobility plan establishes future roadways, 01:17:02.740 --> 01:17:06.460 pedestrian, and bicyclists network 01:17:06.460 --> 01:17:10.480 to enhance connectivity and efficient movement. 01:17:10.480 --> 01:17:13.020 This plan is not intended 01:17:13.020 --> 01:17:17.940 to provide detailed roadway design or plans. 01:17:17.940 --> 01:17:20.940 Rather, it is about general policies 01:17:20.940 --> 01:17:23.660 and broad roadway alignment. 01:17:23.660 --> 01:17:26.300 But it can be further refined as needed 01:17:26.300 --> 01:17:28.820 as part of a new development project 01:17:28.820 --> 01:17:31.960 or new capital improvement project. 01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:36.960 Basically, this mobility plan has three major elements. 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:39.940 First is roadway alignment. 01:17:39.940 --> 01:17:42.140 And second is right-of-way, 01:17:42.140 --> 01:17:44.080 which refers to the width of the road 01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:46.660 and speed limit on the roads. 01:17:46.660 --> 01:17:49.360 And also the roadway design standards. 01:17:51.140 --> 01:17:56.140 So this mobility plan amendment has four requests. 01:17:56.140 --> 01:17:59.800 The reason that I have all these proposals 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:02.780 under one amendment is that they are all located 01:18:02.780 --> 01:18:05.060 in a very close distance from each other, 01:18:05.060 --> 01:18:07.620 and they are almost interconnected. 01:18:07.620 --> 01:18:10.600 So going towards all of them one by one, 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.140 and I will explain all of these 01:18:13.140 --> 01:18:16.500 in more details in later slides. 01:18:16.500 --> 01:18:19.340 So the first request is to remove 01:18:19.340 --> 01:18:23.280 the future northern extension of Underwood Road. 01:18:23.280 --> 01:18:26.340 As you can see in the map to the right, 01:18:26.340 --> 01:18:31.340 which is about located south of Airport Road or 15, 01:18:31.340 --> 01:18:38.100 or FM 1515, and to the south, a terminus at Springside. 01:18:38.100 --> 01:18:42.660 But I should mention that the general area 01:18:42.660 --> 01:18:47.660 of these requests located at southwest of the city of Denton, 01:18:49.380 --> 01:18:51.780 and like east of airport. 01:18:51.780 --> 01:18:54.680 So the second road and second request 01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:57.060 is about removing the future 01:18:57.060 --> 01:19:00.880 western extension of Corbin Road. 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:02.980 The third request is about extending 01:19:02.980 --> 01:19:07.200 the functional classification of north-south Corbin Road. 01:19:07.200 --> 01:19:13.060 Also, the fourth road is Springside Road, 01:19:13.060 --> 01:19:15.060 which we are requesting to unifying 01:19:15.060 --> 01:19:19.060 the roadway classification to a collector 01:19:19.060 --> 01:19:21.820 as the roadway classification for a Springside. 01:19:21.820 --> 01:19:26.260 So now Underwood Road. 01:19:26.260 --> 01:19:29.660 Existing Underwood Road located 01:19:29.660 --> 01:19:33.060 between Springside to the north, 01:19:33.060 --> 01:19:36.860 and FM 2449 to the south. 01:19:36.860 --> 01:19:39.940 However, according to the mobility plan, 01:19:39.940 --> 01:19:42.860 the northern part of Underwood is extended 01:19:42.860 --> 01:19:46.060 to FM 1515 or Airport Road. 01:19:46.060 --> 01:19:49.540 The staff requesting to remove this portion of Underwood 01:19:49.540 --> 01:19:51.700 because of the following reasons. 01:19:51.700 --> 01:19:56.340 First, as you can see on the map to the left and up, 01:19:56.340 --> 01:20:00.820 this road located inside a riparian buffer and floodplain. 01:20:00.820 --> 01:20:02.700 Therefore, in order to avoid 01:20:02.700 --> 01:20:05.020 any adverse environmental impact 01:20:05.020 --> 01:20:09.140 and disturbing the bottomland hardwood and local wildlife, 01:20:09.140 --> 01:20:12.980 staff request to remove this portion of road. 01:20:12.980 --> 01:20:16.540 Also, as you can see, this road is located between 01:20:16.540 --> 01:20:19.500 West Court as a secondary arterial 01:20:19.500 --> 01:20:21.820 and Corbin Road to the right. 01:20:21.820 --> 01:20:24.420 So in the absence of this road, 01:20:24.420 --> 01:20:26.300 there will be enough road capacity 01:20:26.300 --> 01:20:29.620 to take care of the traffic movement in this area. 01:20:29.620 --> 01:20:34.540 The map to the left-hand bottom of the page 01:20:34.540 --> 01:20:37.260 shows the final configuration of this road. 01:20:37.260 --> 01:20:42.260 So as you can see, the northern section of Underwood 01:20:42.380 --> 01:20:44.740 will be connected to the West Court 01:20:44.740 --> 01:20:48.060 by re-aligning to the left with the care. 01:20:48.060 --> 01:20:55.380 The second request is for East-West Corbin Road. 01:20:55.380 --> 01:20:56.780 As you can see in this map, 01:20:56.780 --> 01:21:00.780 the East-West Corbin Road started from east of I-35 01:21:00.780 --> 01:21:03.900 from Bonnie Bray Street, crosses I-35. 01:21:03.900 --> 01:21:06.300 Of course, the crossing is now closed, 01:21:06.300 --> 01:21:08.700 but the focus of this request 01:21:08.700 --> 01:21:11.620 is located inside this orange loop. 01:21:11.620 --> 01:21:15.460 As you can see, according to the mobility plan, 01:21:15.460 --> 01:21:18.460 this future extension of Corbin Road 01:21:18.460 --> 01:21:20.700 crosses three properties. 01:21:20.700 --> 01:21:22.460 So after a detailed study, 01:21:22.460 --> 01:21:25.700 staff recommends to remove this portion of road 01:21:25.700 --> 01:21:28.860 to avoid disturbing the surrounding properties. 01:21:28.860 --> 01:21:31.020 Also, the absence of this road 01:21:31.020 --> 01:21:34.060 will have no impact on traffic flow 01:21:34.060 --> 01:21:36.580 because of the existing Corbin Road 01:21:36.580 --> 01:21:39.340 and a Springside Road in a very close distance 01:21:39.340 --> 01:21:41.340 of this target road. 01:21:41.340 --> 01:21:43.020 There will be enough road capacity 01:21:43.020 --> 01:21:45.100 to take care of the traffic movement. 01:21:45.100 --> 01:21:49.420 The third request is about 01:21:49.420 --> 01:21:52.540 extending the roadway classification. 01:21:52.540 --> 01:21:56.900 Currently, the Corbin Road existing between Airport Road 01:21:56.900 --> 01:21:59.860 all the way south to the East-West, 01:21:59.860 --> 01:22:03.100 connecting to the East-West Corbin Road. 01:22:03.100 --> 01:22:05.900 But mobility plan only identify 01:22:05.900 --> 01:22:11.180 these roads from airport to Springside as a collector. 01:22:11.180 --> 01:22:14.940 Staff recommend to extend this roadway classification 01:22:14.940 --> 01:22:16.860 to provide better connectivity 01:22:16.860 --> 01:22:20.500 and improved access for residents around this area. 01:22:20.500 --> 01:22:26.540 The fourth request is for Springside Road. 01:22:26.540 --> 01:22:28.700 As you can see in this map, 01:22:28.700 --> 01:22:33.620 Springside Road, which is located in the orange circle, 01:22:33.620 --> 01:22:37.220 is located between West Court Road and Corbin Road. 01:22:37.220 --> 01:22:39.700 The western section of Springside 01:22:39.700 --> 01:22:42.740 has been identified as secondary arteriole, 01:22:42.740 --> 01:22:45.180 whereas the eastern section is identified 01:22:45.180 --> 01:22:47.700 as a collector in the mobility plan. 01:22:47.700 --> 01:22:51.100 Staff recommends to unify this roadway classification 01:22:51.100 --> 01:22:52.780 as a collector 01:22:52.780 --> 01:22:57.340 to provide the unifying roadway classification. 01:22:57.340 --> 01:23:01.500 Just for some background about this roadway classification, 01:23:01.500 --> 01:23:04.980 this roadway classification refers to the width of the road 01:23:04.980 --> 01:23:06.060 and the speed limit. 01:23:06.060 --> 01:23:09.820 As a collector, the roadway should have 65 feet 01:23:09.820 --> 01:23:11.740 of total right-of-way, 01:23:11.740 --> 01:23:16.740 and the speed limit will be from 30 to 35 miles per hour. 01:23:16.740 --> 01:23:19.340 However, as a secondary arteriole, 01:23:19.340 --> 01:23:21.860 the right-of-way will be 110, 01:23:21.860 --> 01:23:26.500 and the speed limit will be 35 to 40 miles per hour. 01:23:26.500 --> 01:23:30.780 So we recommend to downgrade this roadway classification 01:23:30.780 --> 01:23:34.500 to a collector, especially because this area, 01:23:34.500 --> 01:23:37.900 located in a complex kind of land use, 01:23:37.900 --> 01:23:42.900 the mix of rural residential and heavy industrial area, 01:23:42.900 --> 01:23:46.580 this road is going to be used by passenger cars 01:23:46.580 --> 01:23:49.380 and heavy commercial trucks. 01:23:49.380 --> 01:23:51.620 So by lowering the classification 01:23:51.620 --> 01:23:53.420 and lowering the speed limit, 01:23:53.420 --> 01:23:58.420 we are providing a safer passage for all the road users. 01:23:58.420 --> 01:24:03.340 And of course, because it is very close to the airport road, 01:24:03.340 --> 01:24:05.380 there will be enough road capacity, 01:24:05.380 --> 01:24:08.060 because airport road is a primary arteriole, 01:24:08.060 --> 01:24:11.060 so they can take care of the traffic flow in the area. 01:24:11.060 --> 01:24:16.260 So as you can see, the map on the right 01:24:16.260 --> 01:24:20.580 shows the final configuration of these proposed changes. 01:24:20.580 --> 01:24:26.140 All these proposals meet the criteria for approval, 01:24:26.140 --> 01:24:28.420 especially regarding to the comprehensive plan, 01:24:28.420 --> 01:24:30.540 future land use and mobility plan. 01:24:32.260 --> 01:24:36.100 We have done the public outreach for this area. 01:24:36.100 --> 01:24:39.700 We had an in-person meeting back in May 7th with residents, 01:24:39.700 --> 01:24:41.540 and we addressed the questions 01:24:41.540 --> 01:24:44.340 and explained the process for them. 01:24:44.340 --> 01:24:49.020 We had newspaper ad, website announcement, property signs, 01:24:49.020 --> 01:24:50.900 and we have also made the notices 01:24:50.900 --> 01:24:54.660 to 200 and 500 buffer around the target roads, 01:24:54.660 --> 01:24:57.460 and we have received one written letter 01:24:57.460 --> 01:24:59.220 in favor of this request. 01:25:01.900 --> 01:25:04.660 Staff recommends approval of this proposal, 01:25:04.660 --> 01:25:09.660 as it complies with the criteria in section 271D of the DDC. 01:25:09.660 --> 01:25:12.100 The next step will be a public hearing 01:25:12.100 --> 01:25:14.620 at City Council on June 17th. 01:25:14.620 --> 01:25:16.380 Thank you. 01:25:16.380 --> 01:25:25.380 - Okay, are there any questions from the commission? 01:25:25.380 --> 01:25:27.620 - I do. 01:25:27.620 --> 01:25:30.900 First, just commending the city staff 01:25:30.900 --> 01:25:34.620 on recognizing that this is going to help the environment 01:25:34.620 --> 01:25:36.300 and all the wildlife there. 01:25:36.300 --> 01:25:41.300 I have to assume, as well, that Underwood, 01:25:41.300 --> 01:25:44.820 by taking that out, I would assume 01:25:44.820 --> 01:25:47.460 there would have to be a bridge going over there, 01:25:47.460 --> 01:25:49.940 over the creek, so that's also a money saver 01:25:49.940 --> 01:25:51.740 for the city as well. 01:25:51.740 --> 01:25:56.740 So way to go to save the city some money, so thank you. 01:25:56.740 --> 01:25:57.780 - Sure. 01:25:59.620 --> 01:26:01.380 I will say, it does look like this configuration. 01:26:01.380 --> 01:26:05.100 Obviously, it avoids the wetlands and the, 01:26:05.100 --> 01:26:07.700 or not the wetlands, the floodplain and the habitat, 01:26:07.700 --> 01:26:09.780 but it also looks like it ultimately 01:26:09.780 --> 01:26:11.500 reduces the surrounding residents, 01:26:11.500 --> 01:26:14.660 and so this seems like a good thing. 01:26:14.660 --> 01:26:15.620 I'll just say that. 01:26:15.620 --> 01:26:18.940 That being said, it is a public hearing, 01:26:18.940 --> 01:26:22.000 so if there's no other questions from the commission, 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.620 I can take questions. 01:26:25.620 --> 01:26:28.580 That being said, I have one card, 01:26:28.580 --> 01:26:30.500 so we'll start with the cards. 01:26:30.500 --> 01:26:33.500 Mr. Kyle Eaton, please come up, 01:26:33.500 --> 01:26:37.860 state your name and address, and you have four minutes. 01:26:37.860 --> 01:26:43.940 - My name is Kyle Eaton, I'm at 2999 Corbin Road. 01:26:43.940 --> 01:26:46.300 I'm actually on the other side of 35, 01:26:46.300 --> 01:26:48.940 but this was brought to my attention, 01:26:48.940 --> 01:26:52.740 and so really kind of what I want to focus on, 01:26:52.740 --> 01:26:56.180 on this item, is the including but not limited to. 01:26:56.180 --> 01:26:59.880 So I guess my question, my concern on this, 01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:01.380 is item number one, 01:27:01.380 --> 01:27:04.620 which is removing the piece of Underwood, 01:27:04.620 --> 01:27:07.280 and the concern that I have with that is, 01:27:07.280 --> 01:27:10.460 I guess the role potentially that, 01:27:10.460 --> 01:27:12.140 I think it's Walter P. Moore, 01:27:12.140 --> 01:27:15.120 I think he was the consultant that did the mobility plan, 01:27:15.120 --> 01:27:16.740 what role he actually played, 01:27:16.740 --> 01:27:19.120 what role they played in this whole process, 01:27:19.120 --> 01:27:20.900 because when I look at Underwood, 01:27:20.900 --> 01:27:23.140 yes, it's in a floodplain, 01:27:23.140 --> 01:27:25.580 it's not just crossing a floodplain, 01:27:25.580 --> 01:27:30.020 there's about 2,700 foot of road that's in a floodplain. 01:27:30.020 --> 01:27:31.700 So my question is, 01:27:31.700 --> 01:27:35.700 how do you make this recommendation on a mobility plan, 01:27:35.700 --> 01:27:37.660 and it gets to this stage, 01:27:37.660 --> 01:27:40.780 where somebody on city staff has to catch it and says, 01:27:40.780 --> 01:27:44.420 somebody, we can't do this, this is impossible. 01:27:44.420 --> 01:27:46.460 And I don't think it's limited just to 01:27:46.460 --> 01:27:47.980 that portion of the road, 01:27:47.980 --> 01:27:50.780 and my concern is that we've hired these outside consultants 01:27:50.780 --> 01:27:52.260 to try to save money, 01:27:52.260 --> 01:27:54.360 and what we've ended up doing is we have people 01:27:54.360 --> 01:27:56.380 that don't know the city, 01:27:56.380 --> 01:27:57.580 they don't know the city, 01:27:57.580 --> 01:28:00.260 and then that has very real consequences 01:28:00.260 --> 01:28:02.100 for the people that live here, 01:28:02.100 --> 01:28:05.940 because whenever a developer sees a secondary arterial, 01:28:05.940 --> 01:28:07.700 I can tell you they are rubbing their hand 01:28:07.700 --> 01:28:10.880 and say, mixed use, let's put mixed use there, 01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:12.360 'cause the roads will support it, 01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:14.340 we're not gonna get pushed back on that. 01:28:14.340 --> 01:28:16.340 So that's my first concern. 01:28:16.340 --> 01:28:17.820 My second concern is, 01:28:17.820 --> 01:28:22.620 why are we stopping on downgrading it 01:28:22.620 --> 01:28:26.420 on the collector on Corbin Road, just to that one section? 01:28:26.420 --> 01:28:30.300 I have the I-35 schematics right here, 01:28:30.300 --> 01:28:36.420 and there is no connection to I-35 for Corbin. 01:28:36.420 --> 01:28:40.560 And so my question is, on the north south of Corbin, 01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:42.420 where we're downgrading it to a collector, 01:28:42.420 --> 01:28:43.780 why does it stop there? 01:28:43.780 --> 01:28:47.580 Why not take it, the remainder of the way, 235, 01:28:47.580 --> 01:28:49.640 and make downgrade that as well? 01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:52.100 That's about 300 foot of road, 01:28:52.100 --> 01:28:55.800 300 or 400 foot of road, that serves three residents. 01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.020 And so I don't understand why, 01:28:58.020 --> 01:28:59.860 if you're making these changes already, 01:28:59.860 --> 01:29:01.740 you just don't go ahead and you finish them out. 01:29:01.740 --> 01:29:04.020 It doesn't make sense to leave out another portion. 01:29:04.020 --> 01:29:06.940 That's a secondary arterial in my opinion. 01:29:06.940 --> 01:29:07.780 Thank you. 01:29:07.780 --> 01:29:12.460 - Okay, it is a public hearing, 01:29:12.460 --> 01:29:15.260 so if anybody else would like to speak, please come up. 01:29:15.260 --> 01:29:18.940 Please state your name and address, 01:29:18.940 --> 01:29:20.400 and you have four minutes. 01:29:20.400 --> 01:29:24.220 - Kevin McKinney, and I live at 2057 Underwood Road. 01:29:24.220 --> 01:29:29.220 And the concern I've got is that we had a plan, 01:29:29.220 --> 01:29:33.240 then we changed it and came up with a new plan. 01:29:33.240 --> 01:29:36.940 And then before May 7th, we had a new plan, 01:29:36.940 --> 01:29:40.900 which is what you are trying to stop. 01:29:40.900 --> 01:29:42.240 Is that what we're doing? 01:29:42.240 --> 01:29:44.940 You're trying to change that and go to a new plan? 01:29:44.940 --> 01:29:47.380 We're Underwood Road, is that correct? 01:29:47.380 --> 01:29:48.740 Did I read that right? 01:29:48.740 --> 01:29:52.540 - So currently, Underwood Road runs north of Springside. 01:29:52.540 --> 01:29:53.940 This would remove that portion. 01:29:53.940 --> 01:29:55.180 - Right, okay, all right. 01:29:55.180 --> 01:29:59.220 And the Corbin Road Bridge is not gonna be reopened? 01:29:59.220 --> 01:30:02.340 Was that, yes, no? 01:30:02.340 --> 01:30:03.820 - That would be something for staff, 01:30:03.820 --> 01:30:05.660 but this is really not a back and forth. 01:30:05.660 --> 01:30:06.940 This is a time for you to-- 01:30:06.940 --> 01:30:08.300 - I'm just asking questions. 01:30:08.300 --> 01:30:10.220 You asked for any questions, these were the questions. 01:30:10.220 --> 01:30:13.900 - Okay, we'll let staff answer them when you're done. 01:30:13.900 --> 01:30:18.420 - Because I had to actually contact the P&Z 01:30:18.420 --> 01:30:21.060 to get notified of all these meetings. 01:30:21.060 --> 01:30:24.460 I'm just worried about my piece of property, 01:30:24.460 --> 01:30:27.380 and from what I remember on Underwood Road, 01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:32.120 there are four houses, there's four houses. 01:30:32.120 --> 01:30:36.380 And then on Corbin, there's three residents. 01:30:36.380 --> 01:30:39.740 And Springside, one. 01:30:39.740 --> 01:30:42.640 I mean, and we're here. 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:44.740 And this is what's affecting us. 01:30:46.980 --> 01:30:49.260 You're home, nobody wants at your home, your home. 01:30:49.260 --> 01:30:52.740 Nobody wants coming in and taking roads over, driving down. 01:30:52.740 --> 01:30:54.580 You're talking about the safety on that road. 01:30:54.580 --> 01:30:56.340 It's 30 miles an hour now. 01:30:56.340 --> 01:30:58.660 It's a blacktop road on Underwood. 01:30:58.660 --> 01:31:03.340 And it says no trucks, no one's enforcing that. 01:31:03.340 --> 01:31:08.100 Y'all, the city built a bridge to keep it from flooding. 01:31:08.100 --> 01:31:11.540 And they're just destroying the road 01:31:11.540 --> 01:31:14.460 and doing 50 miles an hour down that road all day long. 01:31:14.460 --> 01:31:16.580 So if you've never been down Underwood Road, 01:31:16.580 --> 01:31:18.380 y'all might want to go take a visit, 01:31:18.380 --> 01:31:21.860 what you're voting on, okay? 01:31:21.860 --> 01:31:22.700 That's my point. 01:31:22.700 --> 01:31:31.060 - Yeah, are there any other public speakers? 01:31:31.060 --> 01:31:35.860 You'll have to come up to the podium, 01:31:35.860 --> 01:31:37.300 state your name and address. 01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:46.120 Okay, is there anyone else? 01:31:47.140 --> 01:31:50.140 Okay, one more time, anyone else like to speak? 01:31:50.140 --> 01:31:52.940 Okay. 01:31:52.940 --> 01:32:07.740 Okay, well, if there's no other public speakers, 01:32:07.740 --> 01:32:10.120 then I'm going to close the public hearing 01:32:10.120 --> 01:32:12.460 and open it up for questions. 01:32:12.460 --> 01:32:14.300 Commissioner, are there any questions? 01:32:16.580 --> 01:32:21.580 Okay, well, I do have a couple of questions. 01:32:21.580 --> 01:32:30.140 One, it looks like as if this proposal 01:32:30.140 --> 01:32:32.580 would ultimately have less of an impact 01:32:32.580 --> 01:32:37.140 to the residents and to the area around it. 01:32:37.140 --> 01:32:39.260 It seems to me like this would be less of an impact 01:32:39.260 --> 01:32:40.620 than the current plan. 01:32:40.620 --> 01:32:42.580 I'd like staff to kind of come up 01:32:42.580 --> 01:32:45.700 and talk about their analysis and from a traffic side. 01:32:47.580 --> 01:32:50.760 - Good evening, Chandra Muruganandam, 01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:52.460 city traffic engineer, city of Denton, 01:32:52.460 --> 01:32:54.340 transportation services. 01:32:54.340 --> 01:32:56.260 So based on the proposal we have, 01:32:56.260 --> 01:32:59.660 we are actually downgrading some of the roadways, 01:32:59.660 --> 01:33:03.220 so that should actually be less impact to the residents 01:33:03.220 --> 01:33:05.420 as what is in the classification right now. 01:33:05.420 --> 01:33:09.860 We are actually reducing it from a secondary arterials 01:33:09.860 --> 01:33:12.060 to collectors, so that we'll be having 01:33:12.060 --> 01:33:14.980 less right of way undertaking in the future 01:33:14.980 --> 01:33:19.220 when the developments occur on those areas, 01:33:19.220 --> 01:33:20.460 on those roadways. 01:33:20.460 --> 01:33:29.060 - Chandra, can you speak to why Corbin Road 01:33:29.060 --> 01:33:33.180 on the east-west portion was not downgraded as well 01:33:33.180 --> 01:33:35.020 as part of this request? 01:33:35.020 --> 01:33:38.440 - So right now as we see, we have to see 01:33:38.440 --> 01:33:42.060 on the mobility plan what is on the development plan, 01:33:42.060 --> 01:33:44.940 not right now, what is on the 2040, 01:33:44.940 --> 01:33:48.420 as per the 2022 adoption of the mobility plan. 01:33:48.420 --> 01:33:52.340 So as the land area is available for developments, 01:33:52.340 --> 01:33:56.740 those roadways will be, has to match those classifications. 01:33:56.740 --> 01:34:01.740 But if the data supports to downgrade it 01:34:01.740 --> 01:34:05.920 and offer to provide the enough level of service 01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:09.020 and with the development numbers that showing, 01:34:09.020 --> 01:34:10.700 then we could downgrade it. 01:34:10.700 --> 01:34:14.980 But as such, when these studies are done, 01:34:14.980 --> 01:34:19.980 the models predict how much trips are projected in the 2040 01:34:19.980 --> 01:34:23.140 and we will be relying on those models 01:34:23.140 --> 01:34:25.540 to have these classifications done. 01:34:25.540 --> 01:34:30.540 And as a case by case, these are at a high level maps. 01:34:30.540 --> 01:34:32.020 We will take a closer look at it 01:34:32.020 --> 01:34:35.940 as the development comes in to see if it fits the needs, 01:34:35.940 --> 01:34:38.220 whether it supports downgrading, 01:34:38.220 --> 01:34:40.780 whether it has alternate capacities to handle 01:34:40.780 --> 01:34:41.760 the future traffic. 01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:49.420 - Yeah, Bettina, would you like to add something? 01:34:49.420 --> 01:34:50.740 - Yeah, I just wanted to add something 01:34:50.740 --> 01:34:53.620 just to follow up to a comment that Chandra made. 01:34:53.620 --> 01:34:58.620 So he's right, when we did the update to the mobility plan, 01:34:58.620 --> 01:35:01.580 these are, there are models that are in, 01:35:01.580 --> 01:35:04.180 while the city may hire a consultant team to assist us, 01:35:04.180 --> 01:35:07.620 staff is intimately involved with making recommendations 01:35:07.620 --> 01:35:10.900 as well as to what the mobility plan map should show. 01:35:10.900 --> 01:35:14.060 So to his point, you know, we do the analysis 01:35:14.060 --> 01:35:18.620 that we have at the time, it's a higher level analysis. 01:35:18.620 --> 01:35:21.140 We do have the ability though to study areas 01:35:21.140 --> 01:35:23.340 and make amendments to the map as needed 01:35:23.340 --> 01:35:26.180 because we realize sometimes conditions can change 01:35:26.180 --> 01:35:29.020 within an area or we're seeing a different 01:35:29.020 --> 01:35:31.620 development pattern and so it's worthy to go back 01:35:31.620 --> 01:35:34.320 and do a deeper dive analysis on recommendations 01:35:34.320 --> 01:35:35.920 associated with the mobility plan. 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:37.620 So that's why you have the recommendations 01:35:37.620 --> 01:35:40.420 that are before you this evening to make those changes. 01:35:40.420 --> 01:35:43.900 I had one I thought and I just lost it, I'm sorry. 01:35:43.900 --> 01:35:47.500 But it, oh, the other thing is, keep in mind, 01:35:47.500 --> 01:35:49.340 when the mobility plan is adopted, 01:35:49.340 --> 01:35:51.360 and Chandra, you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, 01:35:51.360 --> 01:35:53.220 but we actually have language in the plan also 01:35:53.220 --> 01:35:55.660 that acknowledges that the roadway alignments 01:35:55.660 --> 01:35:58.220 have the ability to shift 1,000 feet in either direction 01:35:58.220 --> 01:36:02.800 because again, we're looking at locations of roadways, 01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:04.700 it's a higher level analysis that's done at the time 01:36:04.700 --> 01:36:06.460 when we're adopting the plan. 01:36:06.460 --> 01:36:10.100 We realize we may not have gotten it perfect, 01:36:10.100 --> 01:36:12.180 possibly on alignment or some conditions have changed 01:36:12.180 --> 01:36:13.380 or we're working with a property owner 01:36:13.380 --> 01:36:15.460 where that alignment might need to adjust. 01:36:15.460 --> 01:36:18.140 And so the mobility plan has some level of flexibility 01:36:18.140 --> 01:36:22.340 built into it regarding where the final road does land, 01:36:22.340 --> 01:36:24.540 if you will, on the ground. 01:36:24.540 --> 01:36:27.620 But so we have that flexibility built in there. 01:36:27.620 --> 01:36:30.120 So again, it's taken into consideration 01:36:30.120 --> 01:36:32.980 as conditions are evolving whether or not 01:36:32.980 --> 01:36:35.860 we have the ability to or whether or not it's necessary 01:36:35.860 --> 01:36:37.820 to make some of those changes. 01:36:37.820 --> 01:36:38.660 - That's right. 01:36:38.660 --> 01:36:45.020 - Okay, any other questions from the commission? 01:36:45.020 --> 01:36:49.100 Yes. 01:36:49.100 --> 01:36:51.300 - I had a question regarding the comment 01:36:51.300 --> 01:36:54.300 about the 300 feet of Corbin Road 01:36:54.300 --> 01:36:58.860 not being completely extended to 35. 01:36:58.860 --> 01:37:00.780 And I'm sorry if some of what she said, 01:37:00.780 --> 01:37:04.060 Tina addressed that, but is there some reason 01:37:04.060 --> 01:37:07.340 why that wasn't considered or is it not in the plan? 01:37:07.340 --> 01:37:11.540 - As such, we have been told from the design team 01:37:11.540 --> 01:37:13.220 that is part of the plan. 01:37:13.220 --> 01:37:16.140 And they are in a schematic stage at this time. 01:37:16.140 --> 01:37:21.200 And we have to take a look at specifically 01:37:21.200 --> 01:37:23.260 on what section they are mentioning 01:37:23.260 --> 01:37:26.320 that portion of 300 feet, 01:37:26.320 --> 01:37:28.220 they are wanting to take a look at it. 01:37:30.100 --> 01:37:33.740 And how much distance is it to 35? 01:37:33.740 --> 01:37:35.020 What's the distance? 01:37:35.020 --> 01:37:36.860 He mentioned 300. 01:37:36.860 --> 01:37:41.740 - So on this plan, in the mobility plan amendment, 01:37:41.740 --> 01:37:45.460 the roadway that the Corbin Road shown on this map, 01:37:45.460 --> 01:37:48.700 there will be a bridge that's constructed 01:37:48.700 --> 01:37:50.980 the north-south Corbin that was closed 01:37:50.980 --> 01:37:53.020 due to a fatality back in 2010. 01:37:53.020 --> 01:37:57.060 So that portion of the bridge is still intact. 01:37:57.060 --> 01:37:59.140 That plan is to build it back. 01:38:00.100 --> 01:38:00.940 - Okay. 01:38:00.940 --> 01:38:07.500 Any other questions? 01:38:07.500 --> 01:38:12.580 I know the public hearing has been closed. 01:38:12.580 --> 01:38:13.420 I'm sorry. 01:38:13.420 --> 01:38:19.940 Okay, with that, I'll entertain a motion. 01:38:30.100 --> 01:38:30.940 - Okay. 01:38:30.940 --> 01:38:39.540 We have a motion and a second. 01:38:39.540 --> 01:38:41.180 Commissioner Dyer. 01:38:41.180 --> 01:38:43.020 - I'd like to make a motion to go ahead 01:38:43.020 --> 01:38:47.220 and move forward on recommending the proposed changes 01:38:47.220 --> 01:38:48.360 to the city council. 01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:51.580 - Commissioner MacDuff. 01:38:51.580 --> 01:38:54.860 - I'd like to second this motion. 01:38:54.860 --> 01:38:58.320 And may I add something, a comment here? 01:38:58.320 --> 01:38:59.160 - Sure. 01:38:59.160 --> 01:39:00.000 - Commissioner MacDuff did before. 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.300 Commissioner Dyer did before. 01:39:01.300 --> 01:39:03.820 I want us to move forward with this, 01:39:03.820 --> 01:39:06.860 but I certainly want us to take into account these comments. 01:39:06.860 --> 01:39:10.420 - Okay. 01:39:10.420 --> 01:39:11.820 Well, with that, let's vote. 01:39:27.460 --> 01:39:29.820 Okay, motion passes four zero. 01:39:29.820 --> 01:39:34.820 Moving on to item five D, MPA 25-0002. 01:39:34.820 --> 01:39:44.820 And I will go ahead and open the public hearing at this time. 01:39:57.460 --> 01:39:59.500 - Good evening, Sahar Isfandiari, 01:39:59.500 --> 01:40:00.980 senior transportation planner. 01:40:00.980 --> 01:40:05.500 This is MPA 25-002A, 01:40:05.500 --> 01:40:09.500 which is about removing a future collector. 01:40:09.500 --> 01:40:11.300 As you can see in this map, 01:40:11.300 --> 01:40:14.420 the general area of this future collector 01:40:14.420 --> 01:40:17.620 located at the west side of the city. 01:40:17.620 --> 01:40:20.180 To be more specific, it is located 01:40:20.180 --> 01:40:24.180 between item five D and MPA 25-0002A. 01:40:24.180 --> 01:40:29.180 It is located between I-35 and Western, 01:40:29.180 --> 01:40:33.420 south of US-380 and north of Jim Crystal. 01:40:33.420 --> 01:40:39.860 So, as I mentioned, 01:40:39.860 --> 01:40:44.740 staff requesting removing this future collector. 01:40:44.740 --> 01:40:48.180 And the reason behind this request is, 01:40:48.180 --> 01:40:51.340 first, as you can see this future collector 01:40:51.340 --> 01:40:54.540 located in the pink circle. 01:40:54.540 --> 01:40:59.180 There is a railroad, Kansas City Southern Railroad, 01:40:59.180 --> 01:41:02.660 that crosses this future roadway. 01:41:02.660 --> 01:41:06.180 So, according to the regulations, 01:41:06.180 --> 01:41:09.140 we need, in order to open a new crossing, 01:41:09.140 --> 01:41:12.420 we have to close at least two or more 01:41:12.420 --> 01:41:16.180 other existing crossing in the city to open a new one. 01:41:16.180 --> 01:41:18.540 And of course, any new crossing 01:41:18.540 --> 01:41:21.100 will have its own safety concerns. 01:41:21.860 --> 01:41:24.380 The second reason is that, as you can see, 01:41:24.380 --> 01:41:26.180 the northern section of this road 01:41:26.180 --> 01:41:28.980 located inside a floodplain. 01:41:28.980 --> 01:41:33.980 So, in order to prevent any adverse environmental impact, 01:41:33.980 --> 01:41:37.820 we are requesting to remove this future collector 01:41:37.820 --> 01:41:40.500 from the mobility plan. 01:41:40.500 --> 01:41:44.300 Also, noticing that this road 01:41:44.300 --> 01:41:47.300 located between I-35 as a highway 01:41:47.300 --> 01:41:50.860 and Western Road as a primary arterial, 01:41:50.860 --> 01:41:52.980 there will be enough road capacity 01:41:52.980 --> 01:41:55.500 in the absence of this future collector 01:41:55.500 --> 01:41:58.340 to take care of the traffic movement in the area. 01:41:58.340 --> 01:42:03.860 To the right, you can see the future 01:42:03.860 --> 01:42:05.620 or proposed mobility plan. 01:42:05.620 --> 01:42:10.780 And this proposal meet the criteria for approval, 01:42:10.780 --> 01:42:13.340 especially regarding to the comprehensive plan, 01:42:13.340 --> 01:42:15.580 future land use and mobility plan. 01:42:15.580 --> 01:42:20.460 We've done the public outreach for this request 01:42:20.460 --> 01:42:22.820 through newspaper ad, website announcement, 01:42:22.820 --> 01:42:26.100 property signs, we have also mailed the notices 01:42:26.100 --> 01:42:30.020 to 200 and 500 feet buffer around the target road, 01:42:30.020 --> 01:42:33.060 and we have received one written letter in response 01:42:33.060 --> 01:42:35.180 and in favor of this request. 01:42:35.180 --> 01:42:39.980 Staff recommends approval of this proposal 01:42:39.980 --> 01:42:44.980 as it complies with the criteria in Section 271D of the DDC. 01:42:44.980 --> 01:42:47.060 The next step will be a public hearing 01:42:47.060 --> 01:42:49.780 at City Council on June 17th. 01:42:49.780 --> 01:42:50.620 Thank you. 01:42:50.620 --> 01:42:53.980 - Okay, are there any questions for staff 01:42:53.980 --> 01:42:56.780 from the commission? 01:42:56.780 --> 01:42:59.780 Okay, this is a public hearing, 01:42:59.780 --> 01:43:02.820 so if anyone would like to come up and make comments, 01:43:02.820 --> 01:43:04.580 you are more than welcome to do so. 01:43:04.580 --> 01:43:11.500 Okay, looks like we don't have anyone, 01:43:11.500 --> 01:43:16.260 so in that case, I am going to close the public hearing 01:43:16.260 --> 01:43:19.740 and commission if there's any discussion 01:43:19.740 --> 01:43:22.420 or if anyone wants to make a motion, 01:43:22.420 --> 01:43:23.620 I'd entertain a motion. 01:43:23.620 --> 01:43:29.620 Okay, Commissioner Dyer. 01:43:29.620 --> 01:43:31.300 - I'll make a motion that we move forward 01:43:31.300 --> 01:43:33.980 to recommend to the City Council 01:43:33.980 --> 01:43:36.260 the changes in this proposal. 01:43:36.260 --> 01:43:38.140 - Commissioner McDonough. 01:43:38.140 --> 01:43:40.860 - I'll second the motion. 01:43:40.860 --> 01:43:41.900 - Okay, let's vote. 01:43:48.420 --> 01:43:50.540 Okay, item passes unanimously. 01:43:50.540 --> 01:43:55.540 That takes us on to Item 6A, PZ25-022, 01:43:55.540 --> 01:44:00.980 hold a discussion regarding the planning 01:44:00.980 --> 01:44:02.900 and zoning project matrix. 01:44:02.900 --> 01:44:10.540 - Thank you, Chair Riggs. 01:44:10.540 --> 01:44:13.060 So there were no changes made to the matrix 01:44:13.060 --> 01:44:14.460 that was included in your packet 01:44:14.460 --> 01:44:17.180 since there were no requests from the prior meeting. 01:44:17.180 --> 01:44:19.740 And then also regarding actions 01:44:19.740 --> 01:44:22.460 that council has taken on development projects 01:44:22.460 --> 01:44:25.820 that the commission also may have heard previously. 01:44:25.820 --> 01:44:29.620 Since your meeting on May 28th, 01:44:29.620 --> 01:44:31.700 the commission only had, or excuse me, 01:44:31.700 --> 01:44:33.820 the council only had action on one agenda item 01:44:33.820 --> 01:44:36.620 and that was the Denton-195 project. 01:44:36.620 --> 01:44:38.980 The applicant had requested that the item B 01:44:38.980 --> 01:44:41.220 continued indefinitely and to allow them 01:44:41.220 --> 01:44:43.820 to be able to make some additional refinements 01:44:43.820 --> 01:44:45.220 to their application. 01:44:45.220 --> 01:44:47.620 So at such point in time when that application 01:44:47.620 --> 01:44:48.980 is ready to proceed to council, 01:44:48.980 --> 01:44:51.700 staff will re-notice for that public hearing 01:44:51.700 --> 01:44:53.740 and send out the required public notifications 01:44:53.740 --> 01:44:56.180 to the various property owners and residents 01:44:56.180 --> 01:44:58.220 at such point in time when that's ready to move forward. 01:44:58.220 --> 01:44:59.940 And I do not have any date on that, 01:44:59.940 --> 01:45:02.020 but otherwise that concludes my report. 01:45:02.020 --> 01:45:02.860 So thank you. 01:45:02.860 --> 01:45:04.900 - So question on that. 01:45:04.900 --> 01:45:05.740 - Yes, ma'am. 01:45:05.740 --> 01:45:07.540 - So if the developer is going back 01:45:07.540 --> 01:45:09.660 and making changes on the 195 project, 01:45:09.660 --> 01:45:13.380 will it go back to the PNC before it goes back 01:45:13.380 --> 01:45:15.180 to the city council or does it just go straight 01:45:15.180 --> 01:45:16.780 to the city council? 01:45:16.780 --> 01:45:18.100 - So that depends. 01:45:18.100 --> 01:45:20.620 Not knowing what changes of any they might make. 01:45:20.620 --> 01:45:22.380 If they were significant changes, 01:45:22.380 --> 01:45:24.500 then we would still take the item back to council, 01:45:24.500 --> 01:45:25.780 but it could be that our recommendation 01:45:25.780 --> 01:45:27.820 is that it's brought back to the commission. 01:45:27.820 --> 01:45:29.660 Not wanting to get too off posting 01:45:29.660 --> 01:45:32.460 before I get the eyebrows again, so. 01:45:32.460 --> 01:45:36.980 But that's kind of the basic how that would roll. 01:45:36.980 --> 01:45:38.700 But we don't know. 01:45:38.700 --> 01:45:40.580 So we'll make that decision 01:45:40.580 --> 01:45:42.700 once we receive more information. 01:45:42.700 --> 01:45:44.300 It's a great question. 01:45:44.300 --> 01:45:45.660 - Thank you. 01:45:45.660 --> 01:45:46.540 Thank you for answering it, 01:45:46.540 --> 01:45:48.700 not for the great question comment, 01:45:48.700 --> 01:45:49.860 but thanks for that too. 01:45:49.860 --> 01:45:50.700 - No problem. 01:45:50.700 --> 01:45:55.420 So I know we have some new commissioners. 01:45:55.420 --> 01:45:58.180 So just, we might not have talked about the matrix 01:45:58.180 --> 01:46:00.380 in your commissioner training, so that's my fault. 01:46:00.380 --> 01:46:02.620 But what we use this matrix for 01:46:02.620 --> 01:46:05.900 is that if there are any particular special topics 01:46:05.900 --> 01:46:08.700 that you would like staff to bring back to you 01:46:08.700 --> 01:46:11.260 in the future so that we can have that discussion 01:46:11.260 --> 01:46:13.020 or more posted for it, 01:46:13.020 --> 01:46:15.700 this is the time to be able to make that request. 01:46:15.700 --> 01:46:18.980 So you'll see on the matrix attachment 01:46:18.980 --> 01:46:21.100 some requests that have been made in the past 01:46:21.100 --> 01:46:23.620 that we have pending and we've noted 01:46:23.620 --> 01:46:26.300 that we'll bring forth that at some future date. 01:46:26.300 --> 01:46:27.780 So we've got a couple of items 01:46:27.780 --> 01:46:29.700 that are on your matrix for now. 01:46:29.700 --> 01:46:32.380 And then also we have our PNZ bootcamp presentations 01:46:32.380 --> 01:46:33.780 that the staff has been doing 01:46:33.780 --> 01:46:35.740 and we've been scheduling those as needed. 01:46:35.740 --> 01:46:40.060 But again, if there is a particular request, 01:46:40.060 --> 01:46:41.500 a special project that you're interested 01:46:41.500 --> 01:46:42.740 in the staff working on, 01:46:42.740 --> 01:46:45.700 this would be the appropriate time to make that request. 01:46:45.700 --> 01:46:47.420 We will add it to our matrix 01:46:47.420 --> 01:46:49.340 and note the commissioner who requested it, 01:46:49.340 --> 01:46:50.500 the request date, 01:46:50.500 --> 01:46:52.700 and then we will get it also programmed 01:46:52.700 --> 01:46:53.980 into our work program. 01:46:53.980 --> 01:47:02.460 - Okay, are there any other questions? 01:47:02.460 --> 01:47:06.100 There is no action to take on this item. 01:47:06.100 --> 01:47:07.780 - There's no action. 01:47:07.780 --> 01:47:08.700 - Commissioner McDuff. 01:47:08.700 --> 01:47:10.580 - So as an addition to the matrix, 01:47:10.580 --> 01:47:13.380 I just have on my clipboard, 01:47:13.380 --> 01:47:15.300 I'd like to talk a little bit more 01:47:15.300 --> 01:47:19.300 about techniques of public engagement, 01:47:19.300 --> 01:47:24.300 just so we would all know those methodologies. 01:47:24.300 --> 01:47:32.260 So that's on my clipboard, number one. 01:47:32.260 --> 01:47:34.460 - So when you say, 01:47:34.460 --> 01:47:35.780 just to make sure I understand the request, 01:47:35.780 --> 01:47:36.940 so I know what we bring back. 01:47:36.940 --> 01:47:38.740 So when you talk about the techniques 01:47:38.740 --> 01:47:40.740 of public engagement methodologies, 01:47:40.740 --> 01:47:42.740 you're talking about public engagement 01:47:42.740 --> 01:47:44.660 that we as staff do? 01:47:44.660 --> 01:47:45.500 - Yes. 01:47:45.500 --> 01:47:46.340 - Okay. 01:47:46.340 --> 01:47:47.160 - Yes, ma'am. 01:47:47.160 --> 01:47:48.380 - We can add that to the matrix and bring that back. 01:47:48.380 --> 01:47:49.500 - Thank you so much. 01:47:49.500 --> 01:47:54.860 And that may be already part of our boot camp training, but. 01:47:54.860 --> 01:47:58.020 - We'll double check, 01:47:58.020 --> 01:48:00.260 but nonetheless, we'll make sure we get it added. 01:48:00.260 --> 01:48:01.100 - Thank you, ma'am. 01:48:06.980 --> 01:48:07.980 Any other requests? 01:48:07.980 --> 01:48:11.140 Okay. 01:48:11.140 --> 01:48:11.980 There are none. 01:48:11.980 --> 01:48:12.940 Moving to item seven. 01:48:12.940 --> 01:48:14.780 Are there any concluding items? 01:48:14.780 --> 01:48:17.700 Okay. 01:48:17.700 --> 01:48:18.540 There are none. 01:48:18.540 --> 01:48:22.580 I am going to close this PNZ meeting at 722.