1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,760 - Good evening. 2 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:05,480 Welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,260 It is 5.02 and I call the meeting to order. 4 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:09,320 My name is Tina Fergens 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,040 and I'm the Deputy Director of Development Services. 6 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:14,200 In light of Chair Pruitt and Vice Chair Pedrone 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,400 being absent this evening, 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,880 hence why I'm calling the meeting to order. 9 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Our first item of business, 10 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,640 I should note that we do have a quorum present, 11 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,320 so thank you for that. 12 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 I should note our first item of business 13 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,360 for the work session agenda 14 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,240 is under item for individual consideration. 15 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Item A, PZ25-132, elect an acting chair 16 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,360 for the Planning and Zoning Commission's June 11th meeting. 17 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,720 So the person that will serve as the acting chair 18 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,920 for this meeting will serve for both work session 19 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,320 and the regular meeting. 20 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,980 So if there is a motion to nominate a commissioner 21 00:00:45,980 --> 00:00:48,160 from those that are present to serve as that acting chair, 22 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,760 we'll receive that motion please. 23 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,860 Oh, I'm sorry, Commissioner McDuff. 24 00:00:55,860 --> 00:00:56,700 - Yes, thank you. 25 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:58,760 - To nominate Commissioner Riggs. 26 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,420 - I will second that. 27 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:04,680 - I'll second. 28 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,440 - Thank you, Commissioner Dyer as well. 29 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,760 So with a motion and a second to nominate Commissioner Riggs 30 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,880 to serve as the acting chair, I will take a vote. 31 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,560 All in favor, aye. 32 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,480 - Aye. 33 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,320 - All opposed? 34 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:19,000 (all laughing) 35 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Apparently you don't have a choice, so. 36 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Well, thank you. 37 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,240 So if you wouldn't mind grabbing your name tag 38 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,680 and come have a seat next to me, I would appreciate it. 39 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:30,200 a little bit. - I love my partner. 40 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,200 - Don't stand there. (laughing) 41 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:49,640 - So we are here for Susan Cometon, 42 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,060 consent to the agenda items. 43 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,580 So moving on to number two, citizen comments 44 00:01:59,580 --> 00:02:01,140 on consent agenda items. 45 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:02,740 Do we have any citizen comments? 46 00:02:02,740 --> 00:02:07,300 Okay. 47 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:09,940 Moving on to item three, clarification of agenda items 48 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:11,860 listed on the agenda for this meeting. 49 00:02:11,860 --> 00:02:23,580 Okay. 50 00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:26,840 So then moving on, we're gonna do consider approval 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,780 of the Planning and Zoning Commission minutes. 52 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:31,620 There any comments on that? 53 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:37,020 - Any comment, please? 54 00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:40,860 Been reading minutes this week, 55 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:44,600 so I was attuned to just a couple things. 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,540 I don't see a page number, but just some suggestions. 57 00:02:49,540 --> 00:02:54,540 And on page one, following discussion, 58 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:57,900 the commission's consensus. 59 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:01,380 I think commissions is missing an apostrophe, 60 00:03:01,380 --> 00:03:04,880 and the consensus was as follows. 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,700 Again, just editorial things. 62 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:11,700 On the second page, I might suggest, 63 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:17,900 we shared items on our Southeast Denton overlay district plan. 64 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:22,620 And we gave input, we offered some suggestions, 65 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:26,540 I might put, of other topics. 66 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:30,260 We talked about other topics such as health and safety. 67 00:03:30,260 --> 00:03:31,920 We did talk about that. 68 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:36,920 Eric Chair Pruitt did talk about several things. 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,260 I'm just not remembering, but I do appreciate that. 70 00:03:40,260 --> 00:03:43,700 Encouraged continued public engagement. 71 00:03:43,700 --> 00:03:46,760 We did talk about that at length, I think. 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,560 But we did say health and safety on that. 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,820 And those would be my suggestions. 74 00:03:53,820 --> 00:04:00,340 - So if there's a motion to that effect 75 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:04,700 to make those changes, what I would ask is that maybe allow, 76 00:04:04,700 --> 00:04:06,760 actually, I'm thinking out loud. 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,620 Let us go ahead and work on those further 78 00:04:09,620 --> 00:04:11,920 and bring those back to you at the next meeting 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,460 so that we can update the minutes 80 00:04:13,460 --> 00:04:14,960 to include that information. 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,020 And then we'll have you take action on the minutes 82 00:04:18,020 --> 00:04:19,380 at your subsequent meeting 83 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:21,300 so we can get those corrections noted. 84 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:26,620 - Sounds good. 85 00:04:26,620 --> 00:04:28,940 Then. 86 00:04:28,940 --> 00:04:40,020 Okay, so moving on to the consent agenda. 87 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:43,380 So we have, let's see, one, two, three, four. 88 00:04:44,660 --> 00:04:45,940 Five, six, we have six items. 89 00:04:45,940 --> 00:04:48,500 Are there any questions on the consent agenda items? 90 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:59,500 Okay, hearing none. 91 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:05,140 Okay. 92 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:09,180 - I submitted some questions on DPP25-0002A. 93 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:17,260 - Was staff gonna talk about those now 94 00:05:17,260 --> 00:05:19,020 or are we waiting on that? 95 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:20,460 - We can address those now if you would like. 96 00:05:20,460 --> 00:05:22,580 I didn't know if you wanted to frame up your questions 97 00:05:22,580 --> 00:05:24,780 and then, and I think Ashley's prepared 98 00:05:24,780 --> 00:05:25,860 to be able to address them. 99 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:28,860 - I mean, I'm okay, are we gonna talk about each one 100 00:05:28,860 --> 00:05:30,640 and then they can talk about it then? 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,480 'Cause I'm okay with that. 102 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,540 It's gonna be right this second. 103 00:05:33,540 --> 00:05:35,280 - So what we can do, if there are no questions 104 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,380 on any of the other items on the consent agenda, 105 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:39,060 then we can go ahead and entertain your questions 106 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:40,340 on that particular item D 107 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:42,140 because it is on the consent agenda 108 00:05:42,140 --> 00:05:44,060 and Ashley's prepared to be able to address 109 00:05:44,060 --> 00:05:45,380 the questions that you had. 110 00:05:45,380 --> 00:05:46,220 - Okay, thanks. 111 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:47,700 - You're welcome. 112 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:49,680 Ashley, if you wanna summarize the questions 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 that Commissioner Dyer had provided. 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,180 - Good evening, Ashley Exit, Associate Planner. 115 00:05:55,180 --> 00:06:02,620 So these questions were over PP25-2, 116 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:05,700 which is Churchill East, which is in a mud. 117 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:07,220 To summarize the questions that I did, 118 00:06:07,220 --> 00:06:09,540 bring some visuals also. 119 00:06:09,540 --> 00:06:10,780 I know one of your questions 120 00:06:10,780 --> 00:06:14,260 was whether TCCI Churchill owns this other portion 121 00:06:14,260 --> 00:06:15,860 to the West and they do. 122 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:17,940 That will be called Churchill West. 123 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:19,300 So that will also be developed, 124 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:20,980 that will actually be developed first 125 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:23,400 and then they will develop this portion here, 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,940 which is this plat, which is in the city of Denton's ETJ 127 00:06:26,940 --> 00:06:29,000 and this is in Ponder's ETJ. 128 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,380 So we won't be platting this 129 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:33,380 and this is not part of the development agreement. 130 00:06:33,380 --> 00:06:34,780 And I know your other questions 131 00:06:34,780 --> 00:06:38,540 were this proximity to the loop. 132 00:06:38,540 --> 00:06:41,200 And let me make this bigger. 133 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,080 I've tried to measure it here. 134 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,460 So this is the subject property 135 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:49,600 and then this black dotted line will be the future loop. 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,540 So it's approximately three miles 137 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:54,740 to the loop from this property. 138 00:06:54,740 --> 00:06:59,320 And then 2449 is here to the South. 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,980 And then this portion of 2449, that is in Ponder's ETJ, 140 00:07:03,980 --> 00:07:06,220 so that will be shown on the Ponder plat 141 00:07:06,220 --> 00:07:08,060 and it will be through them. 142 00:07:08,060 --> 00:07:09,580 - 'Cause that's Florence Road, correct? 143 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:12,020 - Yes, so it's Florence to the South 144 00:07:12,020 --> 00:07:13,660 and that will continue as Florence 145 00:07:13,660 --> 00:07:16,980 as it goes to the North through this development. 146 00:07:16,980 --> 00:07:20,640 - So, 'cause just looking at the property 147 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,580 when I was looking at all the information 148 00:07:23,580 --> 00:07:28,500 is it looks very landlocked, like it's not near a road, 149 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,860 but then when you start looking at the plat, 150 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:34,140 you can see that like Churchill's supposed to be there 151 00:07:34,140 --> 00:07:35,800 and I don't know if that's the one 152 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,260 that's going straight out to 156. 153 00:07:38,260 --> 00:07:40,560 But then I saw that some of them butted up again, 154 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,180 some of those lots are gonna butt up against Florence. 155 00:07:44,180 --> 00:07:46,520 And I didn't know like, 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,000 it was hard to tell on the map 157 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,140 on both that East West Road 158 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:58,140 that goes from the property out to 156. 159 00:07:58,140 --> 00:08:01,220 Right now, it looks like it might be a dirt road 160 00:08:01,220 --> 00:08:05,260 or a very narrow, if it is asphalt or concrete, 161 00:08:05,260 --> 00:08:06,740 it's very narrow. 162 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:08,520 So that's why I was just kind of curious 163 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,460 because I wasn't sure how many houses are gonna be in there, 164 00:08:12,460 --> 00:08:15,060 but knowing that the property to the West 165 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:17,500 was also part of this development. 166 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:19,540 That's a lot of homes. 167 00:08:19,540 --> 00:08:23,660 And we're all talking about the lack of infrastructure 168 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:27,060 for these developments and what it does for the traffic 169 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:30,140 and getting people to and from places 170 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:33,380 and fire and rescue and just all that sorts of stuff. 171 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:37,540 So do you know anything about like the roads? 172 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:41,140 - Yeah, so their TIA is under review now, 173 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:42,860 so it's not approved yet. 174 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:47,860 But in that TIA, they do discuss reconfiguring certain roads, 175 00:08:47,860 --> 00:08:51,340 constructing turn lanes at certain roads, 176 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:53,060 installing traffic signals eventually, 177 00:08:53,060 --> 00:08:55,700 and also tech stop maybe making improvements out here. 178 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:57,020 The TIA is still under review, 179 00:08:57,020 --> 00:08:59,100 so those aren't final recommendations yet. 180 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:00,740 But once those recommendations are final, 181 00:09:00,740 --> 00:09:02,060 they will be shown in the civil 182 00:09:02,060 --> 00:09:03,900 and that will be approved before the final plaque 183 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:05,680 comes before this body. 184 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:08,900 - Do you know when the Denton side of this development 185 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:10,400 is supposed to get started? 186 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,980 I mean, I know you said the Ponder side's happening first, 187 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:16,780 but have they given you a timeline on the Denton side? 188 00:09:16,780 --> 00:09:19,220 - It's a 10 to 12 year build out time. 189 00:09:19,220 --> 00:09:20,060 - Okay. 190 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:29,420 - Okay, any other questions? 191 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:32,540 - All right, thank you. 192 00:09:32,540 --> 00:09:33,600 - Thank you. 193 00:10:01,860 --> 00:10:04,780 (faintly speaking) 194 00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:07,940 - Okay, I'm getting coached over here, so. 195 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:10,260 Okay, so we're gonna move on 196 00:10:10,260 --> 00:10:12,380 and the staff's gonna basically brief us 197 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:14,060 on the different public hearings. 198 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:18,620 And MPA 24-003 has been withdrawn 199 00:10:18,620 --> 00:10:20,580 and it'll be brought to us at a future date. 200 00:10:20,580 --> 00:10:24,280 So we'll move on to PDA 25-003. 201 00:10:30,260 --> 00:10:32,760 - Okay, all right, thank you, Mia. 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,780 - Good evening. 203 00:10:36,780 --> 00:10:41,680 Members of the commission, Mia Hines, senior planner. 204 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:43,340 This item is a plan development amendment 205 00:10:43,340 --> 00:10:45,280 to establish some special sign standards 206 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,140 within our four-way development located 207 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:52,300 at the southeast corner of Vintage Boulevard and I-35W. 208 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:55,540 The proposed site, site plan for the site 209 00:10:55,540 --> 00:10:59,860 and this travel center was approved in 2024. 210 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:02,580 And now they are coming back to do 211 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:05,140 or establish some special sign standards 212 00:11:05,140 --> 00:11:09,100 as one of the signs that they are proposing 213 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:10,220 does not meet the code of ordinance 214 00:11:10,220 --> 00:11:13,660 and they are proposing to add some limitations 215 00:11:13,660 --> 00:11:17,980 that are not, or would otherwise be, 216 00:11:17,980 --> 00:11:19,580 for some things that would otherwise be permitted 217 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:20,940 within the didn't sign code. 218 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:23,760 And so staff is recommending approval 219 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,540 as the request does meet all the criteria for approval. 220 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:30,380 And I do have a lengthier presentation 221 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:31,360 for the regular session, 222 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,300 but I'd be happy to provide any answers 223 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:35,500 to any questions that you have at this time. 224 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:39,660 - Are there any questions? 225 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:44,100 All right, thanks, Mia. 226 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:46,260 - Sorry, I do have one on this. 227 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:51,860 Mia, good work on everything, by the way. 228 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:56,420 Just a question on the public outreach here. 229 00:11:56,420 --> 00:11:57,340 - Yes, ma'am. 230 00:11:57,340 --> 00:12:02,220 - It seemed to me that all of the public outreaches 231 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:05,560 were done around Memorial Day holiday. 232 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:12,340 How long are we required to do, 233 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,700 do we have to do a public outreach? 234 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:17,220 - I believe it's 14 business days 235 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:21,040 for us to publish in the newspaper and post it. 236 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,620 That's pretty the pretty standard practice that we have. 237 00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:28,020 - Yes, I just did as a comment, a shared comment. 238 00:12:28,020 --> 00:12:30,820 I thought that was pretty close to the Memorial Day holiday. 239 00:12:30,820 --> 00:12:34,900 And I don't know if folks would be as aware 240 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:38,780 if there were no holiday around. 241 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:41,980 - If I could see clarification, 242 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:44,700 is your concern regarding when the applicant 243 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:47,420 was working to host their public engagement 244 00:12:47,420 --> 00:12:49,420 or is your concern regarding 245 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:53,580 when we sent out the various mail notices? 246 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:56,740 - Well, I'm looking under public outreach 247 00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:58,420 on the agenda information sheet. 248 00:12:58,420 --> 00:13:00,500 And it just, that's my concern 249 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:02,140 when I'm reading this where my note is. 250 00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:05,620 - And those dates are related to the public notices 251 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:08,220 that we send out, Tina, to answer your question. 252 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:09,420 - Thank you. 253 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:12,100 It seems they were awful close to Memorial Day 254 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:15,140 when folks aren't maybe necessarily 255 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,900 thinking about those things. 256 00:13:16,900 --> 00:13:20,340 - And I can understand your concern on that. 257 00:13:20,340 --> 00:13:22,980 We actually, our notices go out slightly earlier 258 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:26,420 than what is even provided for by state statute. 259 00:13:26,420 --> 00:13:28,300 Did the applicant do any public engagement? 260 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:30,900 Because I know that sometimes we do that direct outreach 261 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:32,420 or that they do that direct outreach. 262 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:35,460 - They did not, that I'm aware of for this site. 263 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:37,540 It's either undeveloped or undeveloping 264 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:39,020 in close proximity around them. 265 00:13:39,020 --> 00:13:41,380 So there wasn't, they didn't reach out 266 00:13:41,380 --> 00:13:43,900 to a lot of people in my opinion. 267 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:45,940 - Okay, so they will, Commissioner MacDuff, 268 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:47,660 they do receive a letter from us 269 00:13:47,660 --> 00:13:49,740 that is sent directly to the property owners 270 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:51,100 within 200 feet. 271 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:54,260 There is also a postcard that we send out to all residents 272 00:13:54,260 --> 00:13:56,340 based on our utility records, 273 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:58,380 because we realize some residents 274 00:13:58,380 --> 00:13:59,860 may not own their properties. 275 00:13:59,860 --> 00:14:01,580 So in the overlap area, 276 00:14:01,580 --> 00:14:03,460 they would have gotten two notifications from us. 277 00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:05,580 And then beyond the 200 feet, 278 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:08,500 those within the balance of that additional 300 feet, 279 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:09,780 we get the postcard. 280 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:11,180 So if they were interested, 281 00:14:11,180 --> 00:14:12,500 they would have reached out to us 282 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:14,220 with both of those notifications. 283 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:16,660 The newspaper notice, I realize not everybody may read 284 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:18,620 the Dent Record Chronicle, 285 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:21,180 but hence why we do the two mail notices to help 286 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:23,020 with notifying those property owners. 287 00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:27,380 - Can you point out which property owners 288 00:14:27,380 --> 00:14:28,220 were actually notified? 289 00:14:28,220 --> 00:14:29,180 'Cause I see it's only five. 290 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:30,020 - It's not, yeah. 291 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:33,260 Again, within the proximity of this property, 292 00:14:33,260 --> 00:14:37,100 there really is that developing multifamily property 293 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:38,900 to the south that is within there. 294 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:42,020 Other properties are undeveloped parcels 295 00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:45,380 within 200 and 300 or 500 feet. 296 00:14:48,380 --> 00:14:50,460 So it looks like three of those properties 297 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:53,740 fell within that 200 and then two additional 298 00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:54,780 fell within the 500. 299 00:14:54,780 --> 00:15:02,940 - Okay, thank you. 300 00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:03,760 Thanks, Mia. 301 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,820 Okay. 302 00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:08,820 Moving on, then we're gonna go to MPA 25001. 303 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:16,460 Sarah? 304 00:15:16,460 --> 00:15:17,300 - Sorry. 305 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:18,300 - Sure, sorry. 306 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:29,060 - Good evening, commissioners. 307 00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:31,020 My name is Sahar Svandieri, 308 00:15:31,020 --> 00:15:34,380 Senior Transportation Planner, Development Services. 309 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:36,340 Tonight, I would like to speak with you 310 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:38,540 about the Mobility Plan amendments. 311 00:15:38,540 --> 00:15:43,140 And this one is for MPA 24-001A 312 00:15:43,140 --> 00:15:47,580 for Underwood Road, Springside, and Corbyn Road. 313 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:49,980 But before I go any further, 314 00:15:49,980 --> 00:15:53,300 let me explain a little bit about the Mobility Plan. 315 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,960 Mobility Plan, just like Comprehensive Plan, 316 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,620 is a long-range plan. 317 00:15:57,620 --> 00:15:59,540 And the current Mobility Plan 318 00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:03,540 was adopted by the city council back in March 2022. 319 00:16:03,540 --> 00:16:12,040 But right now, as part of the Comprehensive Plan of 2040, 320 00:16:13,380 --> 00:16:16,220 generally, the Mobility Plan establishes 321 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:20,620 the future roadways, pedestrian, and bicyclist network 322 00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:25,180 to ensure the connectivity and efficient movements. 323 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:27,460 However, we should keep in our mind 324 00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:29,580 that Mobility Plan is not intended 325 00:16:29,580 --> 00:16:33,180 to provide detailed design of roads or plans. 326 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:36,900 It is more intended to provide general policies 327 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:39,180 and broad roadway alignments. 328 00:16:39,180 --> 00:16:42,620 But it can be further refined as needed 329 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:44,900 based on the new development project 330 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:48,020 or new capital improvement project. 331 00:16:48,020 --> 00:16:52,380 Also, this Mobility Plan has three major elements. 332 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:54,980 First is the roadway alignment. 333 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:57,700 Second is needed right away. 334 00:16:57,700 --> 00:16:59,580 It refers to the width of the road 335 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:01,700 and the speed limit on the roads. 336 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:05,140 And the third is the roadway design standard. 337 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:10,020 So back to our amendments. 338 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:14,180 This amendment has four proposals. 339 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:16,540 The reason that they have all these proposals 340 00:17:16,540 --> 00:17:19,540 under one amendment is that they are all located 341 00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:22,540 in a very close proximity of each other. 342 00:17:22,540 --> 00:17:25,220 So, and they are somehow interconnected. 343 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:26,380 That's why. 344 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:28,500 So it gets a little bit complicated, 345 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,780 but I will go one by one and explain the reasons 346 00:17:31,780 --> 00:17:34,580 for each of these requests. 347 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:36,740 The general area of these requests 348 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:41,740 located at west, south of the city, east of airport. 349 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:46,060 And the first request is for Underwood Road. 350 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:49,700 As you can see in this map, Underwood Road 351 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:52,300 also identified as road number one. 352 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:56,020 This is the future northern extension of Underwood Road, 353 00:17:56,020 --> 00:17:58,460 which means it's not existed yet. 354 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:00,940 Staff proposed to remove this section. 355 00:18:00,940 --> 00:18:05,660 The second request is to remove the eastern, 356 00:18:05,660 --> 00:18:10,380 the western extension of East-West Corbyn Road here. 357 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:14,900 The road that has been identified as number two. 358 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:18,580 The third request is to extend the roadway classification 359 00:18:18,580 --> 00:18:21,300 of North-South Corbyn Road. 360 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,020 And the fourth request is about unifying 361 00:18:24,020 --> 00:18:26,900 the roadway classification of a spring side road. 362 00:18:26,900 --> 00:18:29,780 Thank you, any questions? 363 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:38,060 - Do you have a diagram of what, 364 00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:40,580 when you remove Underwood, 365 00:18:40,580 --> 00:18:43,980 remove that number two, the little East-West, 366 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:46,860 the little swoop up of Corbyn and make it the north? 367 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:52,220 Is that what, you're basically taking one and two out 368 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:53,900 and replacing it with three? 369 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,820 Is that how I'm understanding this? 370 00:18:56,820 --> 00:18:59,260 - We are not replacing, but we are going to, 371 00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:02,020 the north-south Corbyn Road is existed. 372 00:19:02,020 --> 00:19:05,940 We are just extending the roadway classification. 373 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:08,020 But yes, the road is existed. 374 00:19:08,020 --> 00:19:08,860 - Oh, okay. 375 00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:13,700 - But we are going to re-align the southern section 376 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:17,780 of Underwood here to connect to West Corp. 377 00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:21,820 - If you look at exhibit six, 378 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:23,660 that has a graphic depiction 379 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:26,700 of what our mobility plan would look like 380 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,780 if this amendment is approved. 381 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:31,940 So in your attachments, in your agenda packet materials, 382 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:33,700 again, exhibit six helps kind of show 383 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:36,540 what that end result would be, as Sahar was explaining. 384 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:52,020 - Thank you. - Any other questions? 385 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:52,900 Maryann? 386 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:57,140 - Yes, question and a comment, just a comment for you. 387 00:19:57,140 --> 00:20:01,780 On the background on this mobility plan, 388 00:20:01,780 --> 00:20:06,780 I appreciate the acknowledgement that we're moving this 389 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:12,260 to mitigate potential environmental impacts 390 00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:14,380 and to improve accessibility. 391 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:16,380 And I will say that back in the day, 392 00:20:16,380 --> 00:20:18,740 we used to drive these roads and hot rod. 393 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:20,340 And so I know right where you're talking 394 00:20:20,340 --> 00:20:23,380 about the beautiful, some very beautiful... 395 00:20:23,380 --> 00:20:25,580 - Creek. 396 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:28,380 - Creek and resources, natural resources. 397 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:33,380 So I appreciate being aware of this and moving the road. 398 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:34,420 - Yes, sure. 399 00:20:34,420 --> 00:20:41,620 - Okay, thank you. 400 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:42,460 - Thank you. 401 00:20:42,460 --> 00:20:43,300 - Sure. 402 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:46,700 - And you have the next item. 403 00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:47,540 - Yes. 404 00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:48,740 - All right, well, you're up. 405 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:56,860 - Good evening, Sahar Espandier, 406 00:20:56,860 --> 00:20:59,540 Senior Transportation Planner. 407 00:20:59,540 --> 00:21:01,460 This mobility plan amendment 408 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:04,700 is about removing a future collector. 409 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:08,100 As you can see, this collector located 410 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,140 on the west side of the city, 411 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:12,980 located between I-35 and western, 412 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:16,700 south of US-380 and north of Jim Crystal. 413 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:19,500 Staff proposes to remove this part of the, 414 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:22,100 this future collector. 415 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:25,060 It means that this road is not existed yet, 416 00:21:26,140 --> 00:21:27,860 but because of the... 417 00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:32,100 I'm going to explain it more after the next session, 418 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,740 but there is a railroad crossing here. 419 00:21:34,740 --> 00:21:37,140 Also there is a flood pain to the north. 420 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:40,100 So, and there's enough road capacity around. 421 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,340 So after a detailed study, 422 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,300 staff proposes to remove this future collector. 423 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:50,420 - And Sahar, did you want to correct for the record, 424 00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:52,220 it's the Kansas City Southern Railroad? 425 00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:53,380 - It's the Kansas City. 426 00:21:54,620 --> 00:21:57,180 I believe your staff report acknowledged the Union Pacific 427 00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:58,900 and we realized we had an incorrect name. 428 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,260 So we'll make sure it's corrected for council. 429 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:06,900 - Okay, any questions? 430 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:09,940 No? 431 00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:11,900 Okay, all right, thank you very much. 432 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:19,100 So we'll go back to the work session portion 433 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:19,940 of our agenda. 434 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:27,540 (faintly speaking) 435 00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:31,180 - Okay, we're going to receive some work session reports. 436 00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:35,780 So up first, we have PZ 25-123. 437 00:22:35,780 --> 00:22:37,860 Julie. 438 00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:40,300 - Good evening, Julie Wyatt. 439 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:41,900 Let me pull up my presentation. 440 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:50,340 All right, good evening. 441 00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:52,740 I'm Julie Wyatt and I am a principal planner 442 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:54,060 with the city of Denton. 443 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:56,580 And I'm presenting a bootcamp to you tonight 444 00:22:56,580 --> 00:23:00,220 regarding area planning and zoning district overlays. 445 00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:07,060 So just go over what we're going to talk about first. 446 00:23:07,060 --> 00:23:09,220 We're going to start off with area planning, 447 00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:11,420 talk about what they are, why we do them, 448 00:23:11,420 --> 00:23:15,460 how we create them, talk about how we implement them, 449 00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:17,420 what our prioritized areas are, 450 00:23:17,420 --> 00:23:19,180 and then some adopted area plans 451 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,140 that we have within the city. 452 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:23,620 And then we're going to shift to overlay districts. 453 00:23:23,620 --> 00:23:25,900 And we're going to, again, talk about what they are 454 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,940 and how they're created. 455 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:29,900 What our Denton Development Code says 456 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:34,220 about overlay districts are some existing overlays we have, 457 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:35,660 and then a brief overview 458 00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:38,340 of some upcoming overlay districts. 459 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:43,100 So first, we're going to start with area planning. 460 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:48,340 So before we talk about specific area planning, 461 00:23:48,340 --> 00:23:50,900 I thought it would be best to kind of set the table 462 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:55,500 about how they fit within our hierarchy of documents. 463 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,500 We start off with our policy documents. 464 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:03,420 And the big policy document we have in the city of Denton 465 00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:05,540 is our comprehensive plan. 466 00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:07,420 It's Denton Plan 2040. 467 00:24:07,420 --> 00:24:10,060 It was adopted in 2022. 468 00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:14,620 And it is a broad document that covers the entire city 469 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:17,820 and all aspects related to the city. 470 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:22,820 You hear us say from time to time here on zoning cases 471 00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:25,420 and other items that come before you, 472 00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:28,020 the comprehensive plan is the 30,000-foot view. 473 00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:31,140 So if you're in an airplane looking down on the city, 474 00:24:31,140 --> 00:24:33,320 that's what that comprehensive plan is. 475 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,340 We have other plans nested within the comprehensive plan. 476 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:39,620 And Sahar just talked about the mobility plan, 477 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,060 and that's one of them. 478 00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:45,580 Those specific plans are, they're citywide, 479 00:24:45,580 --> 00:24:47,340 so they cover the entire city, 480 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:49,820 but they are related to a specific subject. 481 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:53,180 So think mobility, think about capital projects, 482 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:55,860 maybe economic development, drainage. 483 00:24:55,860 --> 00:25:00,380 So we have some of those citywide plans 484 00:25:00,380 --> 00:25:03,220 that are nested within our comprehensive plan, 485 00:25:03,220 --> 00:25:06,300 but they are just subject-specific. 486 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:07,820 And then we get to area plans. 487 00:25:07,820 --> 00:25:09,980 And those are a little bit closer to the ground. 488 00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:13,500 We say they're about 5,000 feet above ground. 489 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:17,140 Area plans allow us to take a deep dive 490 00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:22,140 into a particular area, so a geographic boundary. 491 00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:25,700 And so if the comp plan looks at the population, 492 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,500 in total population of the city, 493 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,900 an area plan will look at it at the block level 494 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:32,180 or the neighborhood level. 495 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:36,300 We're looking at things like demographics, area needs, 496 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:39,460 land uses, parks, all of that 497 00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:43,260 at a very detailed, specific scale. 498 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,620 And then, so we've got these policy documents. 499 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:54,620 And then those then inform our regulatory documents. 500 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,980 And that's where the rubber hits the road. 501 00:25:56,980 --> 00:25:58,500 And that's at the ground level. 502 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:00,900 That's things like our debt and development code, 503 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:04,940 our zoning map, our capital projects, construction, 504 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:06,380 things that are being built. 505 00:26:06,380 --> 00:26:09,620 So all of those policies really should inform 506 00:26:09,620 --> 00:26:12,460 what our laws are and what we build within the city. 507 00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:17,500 So now I'll talk specifically about area plans 508 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:20,460 in relationship to the comprehensive plan. 509 00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:24,980 Denton 2040 does recommend a variety of area plans 510 00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:28,580 in order to achieve the community's overall vision. 511 00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:31,500 It's both mentioned in our land use element 512 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:35,860 as well as our community character in urban design element. 513 00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:39,180 So area plans are a part of our comprehensive plan. 514 00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:45,300 So what are specifically area plans? 515 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:47,940 If it's done right, you end up with a document. 516 00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:51,140 And we have several of them, 517 00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:52,740 and we'll talk about them tonight. 518 00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:55,220 But they should be forward-looking. 519 00:26:55,220 --> 00:26:59,660 And they allow stakeholders, residents, 520 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:01,500 to determine what their community, 521 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:04,380 their specific neighborhood should look and feel like 522 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:05,860 in 10 to 20 years. 523 00:27:05,860 --> 00:27:10,140 As I mentioned, they are specific to a particular area. 524 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:14,980 So it is looking, once again, at a specific neighborhood, 525 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:19,340 or maybe it's a district, maybe it's a corridor. 526 00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:23,420 But they are particular to one part of the city. 527 00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:27,940 The public engagement should be really focused 528 00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:31,860 on an area plan to refine that community's vision, 529 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,460 to figure out what it is that they want to see 530 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:37,260 in terms of land uses and parks 531 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:40,260 and mobility within their community. 532 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:41,900 And ultimately, they point the way. 533 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,860 They give us a roadmap on how to achieve that vision. 534 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:52,500 We have a variety of reasons as to why we do area plans. 535 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:57,500 And they can be very unique to a specific area. 536 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:01,700 But generally, they are intended to refine that vision. 537 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:04,460 It's also looking for areas of protection. 538 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:06,220 So if there is a neighborhood 539 00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:08,740 that really wants to protect a certain resource 540 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:09,980 within their community, 541 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:12,460 area plans are a good way to determine that 542 00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:14,140 and determine how to protect it. 543 00:28:14,140 --> 00:28:17,260 They're good at identifying areas of change. 544 00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:19,980 Maybe a community wants to see some redevelopment 545 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:24,780 or a change in the particular land uses. 546 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:28,220 They help us understand and respond to community, 547 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:31,140 to specific issues or needs. 548 00:28:31,140 --> 00:28:32,580 They plan for opportunities. 549 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:35,180 We're gonna talk about the Design Downtown Denton Plan 550 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:36,020 in a few minutes. 551 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:40,300 And one facet of that plan is the area south of downtown 552 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:42,260 has recently come out of the floodplain. 553 00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:44,580 So how are we gonna plan for that opportunity 554 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:46,700 for that part of the community? 555 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:49,420 Identify infrastructure needs, 556 00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:53,220 maybe mobility challenges and how to address those. 557 00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:56,260 And provide the community an opportunity 558 00:28:56,260 --> 00:28:59,660 to provide input in future land use decisions. 559 00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:04,500 Our comprehensive plan has this map within it. 560 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,020 And it identifies certain focus areas, 561 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:10,860 centers, corridors and gateways within our community. 562 00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:14,420 And those are really suggested areas for those area plans 563 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:17,620 because the comprehensive plan recognizes 564 00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:20,020 they need more detailed planning. 565 00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:25,220 So how are our area plans created? 566 00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:28,420 While there is not one right way to do it, 567 00:29:28,420 --> 00:29:33,140 there is a framework that most area plans do follow. 568 00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:35,500 And we'll just go over these briefly. 569 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,260 So first we've got pre-planning. 570 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:39,140 That's identifying the purpose. 571 00:29:39,140 --> 00:29:41,620 Maybe what are those opportunities or challenges 572 00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:42,940 for a community? 573 00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:45,060 Also, before you kick off the plan, 574 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:47,980 you wanna start identifying stakeholders. 575 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:52,100 Maybe create a work plan of what you wanna achieve 576 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,580 with the area plan. 577 00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:56,500 And then if necessary, retain a consultant. 578 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,460 Once you've done your pre-planning, 579 00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:00,500 you kick off the plan 580 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,260 and that really is the start date, right? 581 00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:06,140 You're starting to discover key issues within the community. 582 00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:11,500 Appoint a steering or advisory committee 583 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:15,100 to help validate any findings 584 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,380 and keep you on the right track. 585 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:20,340 The biggest part of any area plan, 586 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,540 or at least that we've had recently 587 00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:23,980 within the city of Denton, 588 00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:26,300 is that vision and existing conditions. 589 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:30,020 And that's really two parts within that section. 590 00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:33,340 It is a whole lot of public engagement, 591 00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:34,860 talking to the community, 592 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:37,380 understanding what their concerns are 593 00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:39,820 and what their vision and their hopes and dreams 594 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:41,080 for their neighborhoods. 595 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,620 So that intensive public engagement, 596 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:46,500 but also getting an understanding 597 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:47,940 of the existing conditions. 598 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:49,660 And that really is a lot of research. 599 00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:51,860 So you've got either a city staff 600 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:54,020 or a project team or consultant 601 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:56,100 looking at things like demographics, 602 00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,220 understanding what those existing land uses are. 603 00:31:00,220 --> 00:31:04,420 What is our infrastructure? 604 00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:08,420 What are our public facilities within that community? 605 00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:10,920 And then we also look at those demographics. 606 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,100 So we can understand what the population is. 607 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,740 What is the market demand for housing 608 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:21,700 or for other services or facilities within the area? 609 00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:23,020 What's the tax base? 610 00:31:23,020 --> 00:31:25,900 So looking at all of this data, 611 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,540 all of this information goes into writing the plan. 612 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:34,620 So we write, the project team writes the plan, 613 00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:37,300 reviews it, and then it goes to the community 614 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,460 and policymakers for validation, 615 00:31:39,460 --> 00:31:41,780 for response, for feedback. 616 00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:44,060 And then that starts all over again. 617 00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:47,900 So the drafting plan is a real iterative process 618 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,420 in that we go with little sections and say, 619 00:31:50,420 --> 00:31:51,340 does this sound right? 620 00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:53,500 Is this what we wanna see? 621 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,660 Get that validation and then go back and refine. 622 00:31:56,660 --> 00:32:00,820 Ultimately, you hopefully end up with a plan 623 00:32:00,820 --> 00:32:04,300 that when it's presented to the community, 624 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:09,300 it is accurately reflects what the community wants to see. 625 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,920 It goes through public hearing 626 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,220 and then adopted by city council. 627 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:16,660 That process takes about 12 months, 628 00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:18,200 maybe a little bit longer. 629 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,140 With an area plan, 630 00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:21,160 you don't wanna get an analysis paralysis. 631 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,660 You wanna get in and move forward and get momentum going. 632 00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:28,860 Area planning does not stop there, however. 633 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:30,380 Then you have implementation. 634 00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:31,980 And there's two parts to implementation 635 00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:32,920 the way I think of it. 636 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,460 First, you've got the land use policy. 637 00:32:34,460 --> 00:32:38,260 You've got that directive within the plan. 638 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:40,020 And that's where the community is saying, 639 00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:42,040 look, this is what we wanna preserve. 640 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920 This is what we want to change. 641 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,260 And those really inform some of those decisions 642 00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:50,060 that you make or that the analysis that staff does 643 00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:52,820 in terms of things like zoning decisions 644 00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:56,900 or those types of projects that you see before you. 645 00:32:56,900 --> 00:33:00,060 It also can include some design elements 646 00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:01,500 that the community would like to see, 647 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:03,020 some additional protections 648 00:33:03,020 --> 00:33:07,980 or community character that they wanna protect. 649 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:09,320 So that's that policy side. 650 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,820 We've also got the action steps. 651 00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:16,580 And these are these tasks that staff would carry out 652 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:17,900 or community members, 653 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,500 and that would carry out a policy or a project. 654 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,500 These should be steps to help us achieve the goals 655 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,980 that the community has set forth. 656 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:30,860 One thing that we wanna do in our area planning 657 00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:34,140 is make sure that our steps and our tasks are attainable. 658 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:37,500 We wanna make sure we can achieve the promises that we make 659 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,460 and those elements that we put in the plan. 660 00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:42,020 They should include a timeframe. 661 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:46,380 When we think we can accomplish this task, 662 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:48,280 identify the responsible agencies 663 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,360 and then how to pay for it. 664 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,620 In 2022, when the city council adopted 665 00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:58,360 the current comprehensive plan, 666 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,260 they also prioritize some areas 667 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:03,140 that they would like to see some area plans. 668 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:07,980 So they talked through 10 areas. 669 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:12,140 They recommended three, four area plans. 670 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:13,700 The first one was the Northeast Denton 671 00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:16,100 that's at Loop 288 and Sherman. 672 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,940 That plan did go forward with analysis 673 00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:20,760 and some drafting of the plan. 674 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,340 It was paused to allow the community members 675 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:26,460 to explore opportunities for funding 676 00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:27,980 for a future state part. 677 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:30,340 So that's on pause right now. 678 00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:33,180 But the other two prioritize area, 679 00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:36,100 Southeast Denton and Downtown Denton, 680 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,760 those plans have been adopted. 681 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,180 They were adopted last summer. 682 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:43,500 We'll hit them just briefly. 683 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:45,940 So Southeast Denton, I know Mia talked about it. 684 00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:47,820 I think it was last meeting. 685 00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:51,660 And we had a specific purpose 686 00:34:51,660 --> 00:34:54,660 of why we went forward with that plan. 687 00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:56,260 And that was first to acknowledge 688 00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:58,060 the generational trauma associated 689 00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:00,980 with the displacement of Quaker Town families, 690 00:35:00,980 --> 00:35:03,620 but also to address residents' concerns 691 00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:08,620 of current concerns, places that they wanted to protect, 692 00:35:08,620 --> 00:35:11,460 places that they wanted to see change. 693 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:16,260 The process for the Southeast Denton area plan 694 00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:20,940 included a tremendous amount of public engagement, 695 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:24,660 over 40 engagement activities, and it ran the gamut. 696 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:29,660 We did standard neighborhood meetings all the way to, 697 00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:32,340 there's a picture here in the middle of your screen, 698 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:34,420 man on the street interviews 699 00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,900 in front of local businesses and parks. 700 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:40,940 And so we wanted to talk to as many people as possible. 701 00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:44,100 Ultimately, it was adopted by city council 702 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:48,220 and with a vision 703 00:35:48,220 --> 00:35:53,220 that the community wanted to make sure 704 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:57,380 that cherished history and that black culture 705 00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:58,860 was protected and preserved, 706 00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:00,780 but also to create a community 707 00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:03,620 where all were welcome for the future. 708 00:36:03,620 --> 00:36:07,100 So it was a really great experience. 709 00:36:08,020 --> 00:36:11,340 And then we had the design downtown Denton plan. 710 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,100 And that purpose was to ensure 711 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,940 that downtown remains relevant for the future. 712 00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:20,380 And they did a lot of public engagement as well. 713 00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:23,980 It also followed kind of that planning process. 714 00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:27,620 And that one was unique in that 715 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:30,060 the stakeholders were extremely diverse. 716 00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:32,740 They had business owners all the way to visitors 717 00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:34,940 who just came to, who don't necessarily live 718 00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:39,220 in the community, but come to the downtown square for events. 719 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:42,420 So they had a lot of really engaging 720 00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:45,060 and innovative ways to talk to the community. 721 00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:49,540 They used the internet really well in social media. 722 00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,580 Looking at Cameron, she did a great job. 723 00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:55,900 And they just, they really reached out 724 00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:00,740 in really interesting ways to get that feedback. 725 00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:02,740 We also have older adopted plans. 726 00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:05,780 We have a Fry Street area plan, Edenia area plan, 727 00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:08,020 and an Oak gateway area plan. 728 00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:10,020 A couple of these plans are pretty old. 729 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,700 And just to let you know, kind of like comprehensive plan, 730 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,300 they should be updated regularly 731 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:16,900 in order to make sure that they stay current 732 00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:19,780 and that we inaccurate and that we are 733 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:22,420 accurately reflecting the community's vision. 734 00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:25,580 So now we're gonna leave area plans 735 00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:27,260 and we're gonna go where the rubber hits the road, 736 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:29,660 and that is overlay districts. 737 00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:31,140 So what are they? 738 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:34,100 They are zoning tools to implement area plans 739 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,860 or to address localized needs 740 00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:38,420 or to achieve other policy goals. 741 00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:39,620 So there's a variety of reasons 742 00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:41,900 of why we have overlay districts. 743 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,060 They actually sit on top of the zoning 744 00:37:44,060 --> 00:37:46,940 and they can modify the regulations where they're needed, 745 00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:50,020 but that underlying zoning stays in place. 746 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:52,580 They often require substantial coordination 747 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:56,980 between property owners, staff, stakeholders, 748 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,860 and the process to put a overlay district in place 749 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:03,700 or to amend it is the same as zoning. 750 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:06,660 So when the live work overlay comes before you, 751 00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:10,540 it will function very much like a zoning public hearing 752 00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:13,100 where there's notification and a public hearing 753 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,220 ultimately approval by city council. 754 00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:19,180 The Denton Development Code Subtractor Four 755 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:24,060 outlines how we need to structure our overlays 756 00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:27,060 in the city of Denton and approve them. 757 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:30,500 And there are three parts. 758 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,660 There is the statement of purpose, the why, 759 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,140 a boundary map, and then the regulations. 760 00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:38,540 And those regulations should provide that protection 761 00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:40,580 of features that the community has said 762 00:38:40,580 --> 00:38:43,940 that they wanna protect or that are of special concern. 763 00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:47,340 It can change the levels of permission for land uses. 764 00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:50,620 It can have special design standards, performance standards, 765 00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:54,660 or other standards related to different uses, 766 00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:57,340 and then any other matters of importance. 767 00:38:57,340 --> 00:39:01,900 I think we have seven overlay districts. 768 00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:02,860 I may have miscounted, 769 00:39:02,860 --> 00:39:05,900 but just gonna briefly touch on them. 770 00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,140 So we have the Fry Street overlay 771 00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:10,820 that is an orange on your screen. 772 00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:14,100 The purpose of that was to protect the public peace, 773 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,940 safety, cleanliness, and general welfare. 774 00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:21,940 This actually came out of the Fry Street small area plan. 775 00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:25,980 And so it regulates things like parking, 776 00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:29,140 solid waste containers, signs, setbacks, 777 00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:31,540 and then residential and commercial density. 778 00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:34,620 We have the Denton Square District. 779 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:36,860 That was intended to make sure that we preserve 780 00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:39,500 this cherished community asset. 781 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:43,260 And so it establishes design standards, 782 00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:47,300 demolition approvals, and also approvals 783 00:39:49,740 --> 00:39:53,140 and certificate of design consistency procedure. 784 00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:58,220 We have three historic districts in the city of Denton 785 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:03,220 that Cameron manages as our historic preservation officer. 786 00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:06,540 These historic districts are intended to protect, 787 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:11,540 enhance, and preserve these structures within the community. 788 00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:15,700 And the regulations include things like 789 00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:18,860 architectural standards specific to those areas 790 00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:22,580 and approval procedure, the certificate of appropriateness. 791 00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:28,820 And then three overlay districts we don't see very much. 792 00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:31,900 Well, you see the Razor Ranch District quite a bit, 793 00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:34,580 but the municipal airport overlay, 794 00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:37,500 that really is related to the functioning of the airport. 795 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,620 It is really specific to that area. 796 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:43,020 It regulates things like the height of structures, 797 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:46,380 also limits the uses because you don't wanna build a house 798 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:47,780 next to a runway, right? 799 00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:49,660 There are noise implications. 800 00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:54,660 So provides those regulations specific 801 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:56,820 to the functioning of that airport. 802 00:40:56,820 --> 00:41:01,820 Unicorn Lake Overlay District, that is mainly residential. 803 00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:06,700 There's a little bit of piece that is commercial within it, 804 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:10,540 but it was intended to provide 805 00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:12,660 kind of that variety of housing type. 806 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:15,420 It also has private streets within it. 807 00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:17,180 And then those dimensional standards. 808 00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:19,260 And then we have the Razor Ranch Overlay District. 809 00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:20,860 That is one you're very familiar with. 810 00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:24,500 And that it was intended to provide that combination 811 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:28,500 of land uses to encourage that real commercial district. 812 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,460 And then you've got three proposed overlay districts 813 00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:35,300 you are gonna see in the near future. 814 00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:37,620 We have the Southeast Denton Residential Overlay. 815 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:38,460 Let me back up. 816 00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:40,500 These stem from the Southeast Denton Area Plan. 817 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,340 So these were a recommendation within that. 818 00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:45,260 So this is one of those action steps 819 00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:47,940 where we're creating the regulations. 820 00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:51,100 So the residential overlay community really wanted 821 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,660 to make sure that the neighborhoods 822 00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:55,820 within Southeast Denton were protected. 823 00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:57,180 Not only in terms of use, 824 00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:59,220 but in terms of scale and character. 825 00:41:59,220 --> 00:42:02,700 And so that residential overlay is intended 826 00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:07,700 to make sure that we protect those neighborhoods. 827 00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:10,740 We also have a height limitation overlay 828 00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:13,460 and that will be coming forward. 829 00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:17,860 And that is area in blue on your screen. 830 00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:20,060 And that is just intended to make sure 831 00:42:20,060 --> 00:42:22,700 that any commercial development 832 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:27,380 near residential areas is compatible. 833 00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:31,020 And then the Southeast Denton Live Work Overlay. 834 00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:33,500 I know you heard about that last meeting. 835 00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:35,660 So I won't go into detail with that. 836 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:37,420 And that's the area in pink. 837 00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:40,740 That concludes my presentation. 838 00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:42,700 Sorry if it went along, but a little long, 839 00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,940 but I'm happy to answer any questions if you have them. 840 00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:48,220 Or Tina might jump in if I can't answer it. 841 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:56,260 - What if a resident wanted to talk 842 00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:59,780 about an area plan for their community? 843 00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:02,900 I mean, is it the city that prompts these 844 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:04,940 or is it residents that kind of says, 845 00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:07,260 "Hey, can we have an area plan over here?" 846 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:09,580 - I'm gonna let Tina answer that. 847 00:43:09,580 --> 00:43:12,300 (laughing) 848 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,100 I guess technically it could be both. 849 00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:18,980 You know, with the work that we've done here in Denton, 850 00:43:18,980 --> 00:43:20,580 I think it's, well, I think we've probably had 851 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:23,500 kind of a combination because wasn't, 852 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:25,460 not Price Street, the Oak Hickory Gateway, 853 00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:28,700 wasn't that really resident driven? 854 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:29,620 It predates me. 855 00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:31,020 So I'm just trying to... 856 00:43:31,020 --> 00:43:35,460 I think, let's put it this way. 857 00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:37,900 I know Northeast, well, Northeast Denton's a great example. 858 00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:39,500 I know the residents in Northeast Denton 859 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:43,140 were interested in having an area plan adopted 860 00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:44,580 for the area of the community. 861 00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:47,420 In fact, they drafted their own area plan. 862 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:50,980 And as a result of some of the work they did, 863 00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:53,740 coupled with the timing coming out of our adoption 864 00:43:53,740 --> 00:43:55,660 of the comprehensive plan where we were prioritizing 865 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:59,460 our future area plans, that is what kind of helped 866 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:03,260 probably move that area up to number one on the list, 867 00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:05,900 not to mention, you know, some of the other development 868 00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:07,460 interests we were seeing within the area. 869 00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:11,100 But that was truly, I would say driven by residents, 870 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,460 but also staff and elected officials in that case. 871 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:18,380 So it's possible that residents could put forth, 872 00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:20,420 you know, we've come up with this list 873 00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:21,820 when we did the comprehensive plan. 874 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:23,340 As Julie mentioned earlier, you know, 875 00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:24,940 we would probably revisit this list 876 00:44:24,940 --> 00:44:27,060 and see if those priority areas, you know, 877 00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:28,740 a four through 10 are still in the correct order 878 00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:32,460 if we were to do any future area plan. 879 00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:35,220 But also we'd take into consideration 880 00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:36,980 what we're hearing from the community. 881 00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:40,100 Sorry, that was kind of long-winded. 882 00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,180 I was thinking through that one. 883 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:43,020 - No, it's okay. 884 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:44,820 I just feel like my little neck of the woods, 885 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,580 like it's like the forgotten stepchild. 886 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:49,060 Like there's nothing happening over where I live. 887 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:50,860 I don't even think it's on that map. 888 00:44:50,860 --> 00:44:53,900 - I think you raise a great question. 889 00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:58,460 So, I mean, if that's an area that the commission feels 890 00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:02,540 needs to be studied, you can make that recommendation. 891 00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:04,460 We could also work it through council's 892 00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:05,740 two minute pitch process. 893 00:45:05,740 --> 00:45:06,980 I'd have to give a little more thought to it, 894 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:11,260 but if we were to go through and identify 895 00:45:11,260 --> 00:45:14,100 future area plans that would need to be done, 896 00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:16,260 we would look for that kind of feedback. 897 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:18,140 - We just, we have a lot going on there. 898 00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:22,340 And because we're the very southern most part of Denton 899 00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:26,500 where it has a border with North Lake, 900 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:29,100 like there's a lot of stuff happening there 901 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,340 and a lot of concerns by current residents. 902 00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:36,300 And I'm sure once landmark starts opening up sales 903 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:38,940 and we're gonna have residents there, 904 00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:41,500 there are also going to be some future concerns 905 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:45,460 that I think people just don't even realize yet. 906 00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:46,780 - Yeah, I can understand why you say that. 907 00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:50,220 And, you know, it probably really hasn't crossed our minds 908 00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:51,860 in the past really to focus on the year 909 00:45:51,860 --> 00:45:54,220 because with the ropes and ranch zoning 910 00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:56,740 that was customized and put in place for that area, 911 00:45:56,740 --> 00:45:59,780 then you couple that with all of the work that was done 912 00:45:59,780 --> 00:46:03,540 with the formerly known as Hunter landmark development 913 00:46:03,540 --> 00:46:06,100 and coal ranch with the municipal management districts, 914 00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:07,660 the master plan community zoning 915 00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:09,220 that's already in place there. 916 00:46:09,220 --> 00:46:14,420 We might've felt like we had checked the box and moved on, 917 00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:17,340 but you're right, there's, you know, 918 00:46:17,340 --> 00:46:20,860 because it's already has the zoning entitlements in place, 919 00:46:20,860 --> 00:46:24,900 we probably haven't viewed that area as much of a priority, 920 00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:28,140 but it could definitely find itself resonating 921 00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:30,620 near the top of the list sooner or later. 922 00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:32,860 - Maybe this is a great conversation to have 923 00:46:32,860 --> 00:46:35,780 with Councilman Hall and myself and staff 924 00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:38,260 about what's happening over there 925 00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:42,860 and what are some potential immediate needs. 926 00:46:42,860 --> 00:46:46,220 - Yeah, I think that's fine. 927 00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:47,620 I would definitely love to sit down 928 00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:49,020 and visit with you further on it. 929 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:52,020 And then we could, and then if you feel it's necessary 930 00:46:52,020 --> 00:46:54,140 to go to Councilman Hall and we can definitely talk 931 00:46:54,140 --> 00:46:55,700 about what those next steps might be 932 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:57,060 or if that's a subsequent conversation 933 00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:58,780 with the planning and zoning commission, 934 00:46:58,780 --> 00:46:59,860 but we could look into that. 935 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,020 I think Hillary has an idea too. 936 00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:03,740 - Oh, my idea is to take this offline 937 00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:05,620 so we stay to posting. 938 00:47:05,620 --> 00:47:06,980 - Oh, okay, all right. 939 00:47:06,980 --> 00:47:11,180 Thank you for putting me in check. 940 00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:16,180 - No, you could finish the, you got to the right place. 941 00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:17,580 - Okay, very good point. 942 00:47:17,580 --> 00:47:18,660 Any other questions? 943 00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:22,700 - I noticed on one of the slides you said 944 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:24,820 as part of the planning is that the city 945 00:47:24,820 --> 00:47:26,580 hires a consultant. 946 00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:29,060 So a consultant usually writes 947 00:47:29,060 --> 00:47:31,980 the small area plans for the city. 948 00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:34,940 - You know, the city and Tina may wanna correct me 949 00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:38,500 or weigh in, but the city has done it both ways. 950 00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,100 They've done them in house. 951 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,380 You know, they're pretty big projects 952 00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:44,860 and there are some communities 953 00:47:44,860 --> 00:47:46,500 that are called small area plans, 954 00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:50,660 but in Denton, we make them, we supersize our area plans. 955 00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:54,460 And so they're often so large 956 00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:56,580 that additional help is needed, 957 00:47:56,580 --> 00:47:58,220 but Tina may wanna weigh in. 958 00:47:58,220 --> 00:47:59,460 - Julie's right. 959 00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:01,500 We don't necessarily have to retain a consultant. 960 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:02,740 On these area plans we did 961 00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:04,900 because of their size and scale, 962 00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:08,780 also with the size of our staff, we were limited, right? 963 00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:10,900 When we hire a consultant team, 964 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,780 we really view them as an extension of our team, right? 965 00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:16,020 We are one project team. 966 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:18,420 They just help provide an additional level of expertise 967 00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:20,940 that we may not necessarily have in house. 968 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,460 And then, so we, you know, bring them to the table 969 00:48:24,460 --> 00:48:26,660 to be able to help us accomplish the effort. 970 00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:31,620 There are consultants who, in the case of Southeast Denton, 971 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:34,300 one of the sub-consultants on that team 972 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:35,620 has made it his life career 973 00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:38,580 working with communities that have experienced past harm. 974 00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:40,940 And so he really brought unique perspective 975 00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:42,420 in helping our team work with that 976 00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:44,900 'cause no one else on our team had that experience. 977 00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:46,900 And so we'll bring those consultants in 978 00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:48,900 for those levels of specialty experience. 979 00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:50,940 Our design downtown Denton plan, 980 00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:54,220 Zach and his team that we brought on, super helpful. 981 00:48:54,220 --> 00:48:56,300 They've done numerous downtown plans 982 00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,180 and really can speak to 983 00:48:58,180 --> 00:49:00,060 some successful implementation efforts 984 00:49:00,060 --> 00:49:01,980 'cause they've been involved in that as well. 985 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:05,220 And so they, again, we're an extension of our team 986 00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:07,060 to allow us to be able to partner with them 987 00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:08,620 to help us create a plan 988 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:11,540 that is most appropriate for our community. 989 00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:13,600 I viewed it also as an opportunity for my team 990 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,180 to learn from those experts 991 00:49:15,180 --> 00:49:17,900 because then, you know, we've got great talent 992 00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:20,460 on our staff as well who, you know, 993 00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:22,140 depending upon the type of area plan 994 00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:22,980 that we were working on, 995 00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:25,620 it's possible we could accomplish it all in house. 996 00:49:25,620 --> 00:49:27,940 It's possible we might need to bring somebody on 997 00:49:27,940 --> 00:49:29,300 to help us with the effort. 998 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:31,020 So it's not a must. 999 00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:33,100 It is definitely was a huge benefit for us 1000 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:34,700 on those particular two projects. 1001 00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:37,360 And even on the Northeast Denton plan, 1002 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,140 just given the level of public engagement 1003 00:49:39,140 --> 00:49:40,500 that we were doing also on that plan 1004 00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,500 and the complexities associated with it. 1005 00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:47,540 - Just a comment. 1006 00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:50,600 Can you go back to your slide that had frustrate on it? 1007 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,100 - The area plan or the overlay? 1008 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:59,100 - Well, which it has frustrated, is it the overlay? 1009 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,180 Where it gives us the date that was updated. 1010 00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:04,120 That was the plan, I guess, the area plan. 1011 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,620 1999, gosh, that might need to be looked at 1012 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:09,980 just as a comment. 1013 00:50:09,980 --> 00:50:12,140 I know it's not a priority and, you know, 1014 00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:14,500 we've moved a lot of our businesses 1015 00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:19,420 and activity from Fry Street to downtown. 1016 00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:21,800 Not sure how long that's been in place, 1017 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,800 but just speaking for my area of representation. 1018 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,900 - Yes, and so we adopted the Oak gateway area plan, 1019 00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:37,580 those recommendations and vision. 1020 00:50:37,580 --> 00:50:40,380 That one kind of enveloped Fry Street. 1021 00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:43,800 I don't think it was necessarily focused on Fry Street. 1022 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,180 So I think it kind of maybe split both, 1023 00:50:47,180 --> 00:50:50,740 but yeah, it's something we'll take note of 1024 00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:54,380 'cause they should be updated regularly. 1025 00:50:54,380 --> 00:50:57,460 - Keep in mind, we have not, as I've understood it 1026 00:50:57,460 --> 00:51:00,420 and I looked at Haley and Julie many times and Sean, 1027 00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:03,820 because they have the most tenure here compared to myself. 1028 00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:08,440 But we have done those area plans from time to time, 1029 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,120 but we have not had like staff fully dedicated 1030 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,280 to be able to do those efforts. 1031 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,460 A lot of times those area plans are done 1032 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:16,420 from a reactive point of view as well, 1033 00:51:16,420 --> 00:51:18,300 just because of issues that are going on 1034 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:19,900 in a particular area of the community. 1035 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:23,500 And so we were able to allocate the resources 1036 00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:25,780 to be able to do so. 1037 00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:28,860 We're fortunate now with the size of the staff that we have 1038 00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:31,200 and especially having kind of a small 1039 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,940 long range planning team. 1040 00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:33,780 They're still responsible 1041 00:51:33,780 --> 00:51:35,460 for doing development review as well. 1042 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:38,220 But we're a little better positioned for us 1043 00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:40,860 to be able to do projects of this nature. 1044 00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:45,500 So if it requires additional budgetary financial resources, 1045 00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:48,780 then the projects are gonna be paused for the time being. 1046 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:51,500 But we definitely have the talent in-house 1047 00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:53,700 where we can visit certain areas. 1048 00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:56,060 And like I said, a lot of our effort, 1049 00:51:56,060 --> 00:51:59,300 we're responsive to what is the Mesa or the foremost need, 1050 00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:01,580 which the statutory requirements are the plats 1051 00:52:01,580 --> 00:52:02,700 and the zoning compliance plans 1052 00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:03,800 and the civil engineering plans. 1053 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,880 But we do try to make sure that we have more of a focus 1054 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,740 with our long range planning now, 1055 00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:09,380 just because we have not fully benefited 1056 00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:10,540 from that in the past. 1057 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:16,940 - Well, it takes time, right? 1058 00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:19,060 - Thank you. - Thank you, Julie. 1059 00:52:19,060 --> 00:52:22,600 So since y'all voted me as temporary chair, 1060 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,620 I have to go ahead and say, I missed something already. 1061 00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:28,700 So we're gonna go back and review the regular agenda 1062 00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:30,900 and we're gonna go to item four, 1063 00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:33,540 items for individual consideration. 1064 00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:36,140 Now we're gonna talk about, to start off, 1065 00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:41,140 plat FP25-0018, Mia? 1066 00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:42,580 - Yes, sir. 1067 00:52:42,580 --> 00:52:45,100 Oh, I'm not trying to go to Zoom. 1068 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,740 That's gonna pop up, so, so sorry. 1069 00:52:47,740 --> 00:52:51,500 Okay, combined plots. 1070 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,340 (mouse clicking) 1071 00:52:55,340 --> 00:53:02,020 Okay, Mia Hines, senior planner. 1072 00:53:02,020 --> 00:53:05,740 This item is a final plat for Hickory Grove, phase four. 1073 00:53:05,740 --> 00:53:08,700 The Hickory Grove subdivision is located 1074 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:11,100 within a municipal utility district 1075 00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,900 located just north of West University Drive 1076 00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:18,540 with the previous phases sort of moving north, northwest. 1077 00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:22,900 This phase, phase four, is approximately 80 feet east 1078 00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,420 of Nail and Jackson Road, 1079 00:53:25,420 --> 00:53:28,080 or the intersection of Nail and Jackson Road 1080 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,240 and includes approximately 115 acres. 1081 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,860 At this time, the plat is not ready, 1082 00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:36,940 or does not meet all the criteria for approval 1083 00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:40,540 as presented in the DDC, so staff is recommending denial. 1084 00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:43,500 However, we have no objection to the requested extension, 1085 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:47,500 which could be granted to June 25th, 2025. 1086 00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:48,460 Any questions? 1087 00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:56,260 - So what exactly is not meeting the requirements right now? 1088 00:53:56,260 --> 00:53:58,660 - I believe with this one, it's some minor things. 1089 00:53:58,660 --> 00:54:00,340 I know that they have some notes. 1090 00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:03,340 It's provided in the backup for sure on the staff analysis, 1091 00:54:03,340 --> 00:54:06,380 but there are some notes related to gas wells, 1092 00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:09,740 and then there's some minor sort of detailed things 1093 00:54:09,740 --> 00:54:11,300 on the plat that they need to address. 1094 00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:13,700 For the most part, lot sizes, the orientation, 1095 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:15,640 it's in line with the phasing plan 1096 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:16,640 that was adopted for this, 1097 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,740 so the bigger picture stuff there, they're ready, 1098 00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:23,300 and I suspect that they should have it ready for approval 1099 00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:24,820 by that next extension date, 1100 00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:27,820 if that works out with the submittal calendar, 1101 00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:29,580 which I believe it does. 1102 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:31,080 - Okay, any other questions? 1103 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:38,500 - Excuse me, so is the applicant asking for the extension? 1104 00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,580 - Yes, ma'am. - Thank you. 1105 00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:42,960 - And that is provided as exhibit six, 1106 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,500 or five, I believe, in your backup. 1107 00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:50,060 - And we tend to get a lot of these each meeting, 1108 00:54:50,060 --> 00:54:52,580 so, okay, well, thank you. 1109 00:54:52,580 --> 00:54:53,700 - Yes, sir. 1110 00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:58,700 - We'll move on then to item 4B, FP25-0020. 1111 00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:00,860 Matt. 1112 00:55:00,860 --> 00:55:08,660 - Good evening, commission. 1113 00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:11,420 Matt Bodine, assistant planner, 1114 00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:15,860 here to present a final plat 1115 00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:21,620 located approximately 610 feet west of Teesley Lane 1116 00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:24,300 along Hickory Creek Road. 1117 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:26,700 This is about a 10 and a half acre tract 1118 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,940 for the development of a self-service storage facility. 1119 00:55:30,940 --> 00:55:33,940 At this time, the plat does not yet meet 1120 00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:35,940 our criteria for approval, 1121 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:38,940 though they are requesting an extension of the review time 1122 00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:41,380 to a date certain of June 25th, 1123 00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:45,420 and staff has no objection to their extension request. 1124 00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:47,480 Here to answer any questions. 1125 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,020 - Okay, any questions? 1126 00:55:51,020 --> 00:55:55,640 All right, Matt, thanks. - All right. 1127 00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:00,340 - Okay, that being said, 1128 00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:02,700 we'll jump back over into our work session mode. 1129 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,100 - Okay, well, I've just been told 1130 00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:17,500 there's a very important notice. 1131 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:19,100 Dinner is here, so we're gonna pause, 1132 00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:20,380 let everybody get some dinner, 1133 00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:21,260 and then we'll come back 1134 00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:24,580 and we'll go back into our work session, so. 1135 00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:27,300 - Okay, I'm gonna call back to order our work session. 1136 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,940 The time is 616, and to move on, 1137 00:56:30,940 --> 00:56:33,940 we're going to our work session item 4B. 1138 00:56:33,940 --> 00:56:38,880 Oh, no, I'm sorry. 1139 00:56:42,580 --> 00:56:47,580 Yep, 4B, PZ25-131. 1140 00:56:47,580 --> 00:56:50,220 All right, Mia. 1141 00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:54,780 Oh, also, before you get started, Mia, 1142 00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:56,020 for the sake of time, 1143 00:56:56,020 --> 00:56:58,920 let's just hold all questions until the very end, 1144 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,700 and that way we can make sure that we get through it. 1145 00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:02,100 - Cool. - Yeah, thank you. 1146 00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:05,900 - Mia Hines, senior planner. 1147 00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:10,340 This item or this work session bootcamp presentation 1148 00:57:10,340 --> 00:57:13,100 is essentially all other applications. 1149 00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,320 This is everything but the kitchen sink, a little bit. 1150 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,500 Of all other applications 1151 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:18,380 that the Planning and Zoning Commission considers 1152 00:57:18,380 --> 00:57:21,180 that doesn't necessarily fall in line with 1153 00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:23,220 or fall into the categories of like plats 1154 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:24,300 and other things that we've covered 1155 00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:27,180 within this bootcamp series. 1156 00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:30,100 So, so far, I just want to show this slide 1157 00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:33,100 because so far, to remind you all what we've covered, 1158 00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:34,540 Julie just did a great presentation 1159 00:57:34,540 --> 00:57:37,260 over the area plans and zoning overlays. 1160 00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:39,940 Earlier this year, I did that planning one-on-one bootcamp 1161 00:57:39,940 --> 00:57:40,820 that talked a little bit about 1162 00:57:40,820 --> 00:57:43,860 comprehensive planning process as well as the overview 1163 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:45,340 of some of the development applications 1164 00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:47,220 and process that you all see. 1165 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:50,020 We've also done zoning and PDs, 1166 00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:53,420 SUPs, annexations, platting, and subdivision variances, 1167 00:57:53,420 --> 00:57:55,820 and today's presentation, 1168 00:57:55,820 --> 00:57:59,140 we are gonna be talking about alternative ESA plans, 1169 00:57:59,140 --> 00:58:03,500 historic landmarks and district designations, 1170 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:06,840 DDC tax amendments, policy plan amendments a little bit, 1171 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,540 and then some special zoning compliance plan applications 1172 00:58:10,540 --> 00:58:14,140 that the commission is responsible for reviewing. 1173 00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:17,660 So we'll start with those alternative 1174 00:58:17,660 --> 00:58:22,660 environmentally sensitive area plans or the AESA plans. 1175 00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:27,380 For a little overview about what we're talking about here 1176 00:58:27,380 --> 00:58:29,300 are those environmentally sensitive areas, 1177 00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,300 specifically cross timbers upland habitat, 1178 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,020 riparian buffer or water-related habitat areas, 1179 00:58:35,020 --> 00:58:36,580 and undeveloped floodplain. 1180 00:58:36,580 --> 00:58:38,780 Those cross timber upland habitat areas 1181 00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:41,740 are those remnants of eastern cross timber forests 1182 00:58:41,740 --> 00:58:42,700 within the city. 1183 00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:46,340 That riparian buffer area is the area within 50 to 100 feet 1184 00:58:46,340 --> 00:58:48,180 of the centerline of a stream, 1185 00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:50,900 just depending on the watershed size, 1186 00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:52,980 and then the undeveloped floodplain is that area 1187 00:58:52,980 --> 00:58:55,060 within the FEMA 100-year floodplain. 1188 00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:58,860 And essentially, the DDC has different ways 1189 00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:00,940 that these areas are to be preserved 1190 00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:05,940 or if developed in how they are to be treated. 1191 00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:08,900 The alternative ESA plan provides an opportunities 1192 00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:13,300 for developers to offer things outside 1193 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:15,980 of what the DDC would allow for, 1194 00:59:15,980 --> 00:59:17,780 but still within certain limits 1195 00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:21,500 that ultimately yield to a higher quality engineered plan 1196 00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:25,220 and mitigation for environmentally sensitive areas 1197 00:59:25,220 --> 00:59:27,500 in relation to developments. 1198 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:30,540 So typically, Christy Upton is usually the one 1199 00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:33,900 that presents alternative ESA plans to you all, 1200 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,740 and she'll come to you with a little bit of information 1201 00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:37,780 similar to this. 1202 00:59:37,780 --> 00:59:41,140 Well, she'll start off with the ESA field assessment 1203 00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:42,700 sort of site inventory, 1204 00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:45,900 letting you all know what environmentally sensitive areas 1205 00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,980 specifically are on the site of the proposed development. 1206 00:59:48,980 --> 00:59:50,500 She'll also provide some information 1207 00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,100 on the proposed development itself, 1208 00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,380 what land uses are being proposed, 1209 00:59:54,380 --> 00:59:59,380 as well as sort of how the environmentally sensitive areas 1210 00:59:59,380 --> 01:00:01,300 are to be disturbed. 1211 01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:03,700 And then she'll provide you with a mitigation plan 1212 01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,900 that the engineering or the developers 1213 01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:07,780 provides the city staff for review 1214 01:00:07,780 --> 01:00:11,620 that lists how the development proposes 1215 01:00:11,620 --> 01:00:14,460 with their disturbance 1216 01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:16,420 of these environmentally sensitive areas, 1217 01:00:16,420 --> 01:00:18,940 how they propose to sort of mitigate for that 1218 01:00:18,940 --> 01:00:22,460 and ultimately develop a higher quality product. 1219 01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:25,340 So that's ESAs. 1220 01:00:25,340 --> 01:00:29,100 Next is historic landmarks and districts. 1221 01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,860 I start with this slide to make sure we're sort of all clear 1222 01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:35,300 on the difference between a historic landmark 1223 01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:38,220 and a conservation or historic district. 1224 01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:40,820 Notably, historic landmarks are those buildings, 1225 01:00:40,820 --> 01:00:44,060 districts, objects, sites, or structures 1226 01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:46,820 that are recognized by the state or the US nationally. 1227 01:00:46,820 --> 01:00:48,420 They come with a plaque of some sort. 1228 01:00:48,420 --> 01:00:50,340 And those conservation and historic districts 1229 01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:52,060 are more like zoning overlays 1230 01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:53,780 that we just sort of learned about 1231 01:00:53,780 --> 01:00:55,260 that are recognized at a city level 1232 01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,220 and passed locally at a city level. 1233 01:00:58,220 --> 01:01:01,700 So here's some examples of some of those landmarks 1234 01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,460 and districts that we have in the city. 1235 01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:05,900 Landmarks are included in those images on the left. 1236 01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:09,300 The courthouse, for example, is one of those landmarks. 1237 01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:11,780 The districts, like I said, are more like an overlay. 1238 01:01:11,780 --> 01:01:14,300 So those maps that you see there to the right, 1239 01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:17,180 we have that Oak Hickory Historic District, 1240 01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:18,660 that Belle Avenue Historic District, 1241 01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:20,740 and that West Oak Historic District 1242 01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:23,820 that all come with, as Julie stated, 1243 01:01:23,820 --> 01:01:25,900 some additional design requirements and standards 1244 01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:29,980 to sort of preserve the historic character in that area. 1245 01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:31,820 Where this body comes into play 1246 01:01:31,820 --> 01:01:37,940 is after the Historic Landmark Commission reviews 1247 01:01:37,940 --> 01:01:41,220 these applications for historic significance. 1248 01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:43,540 This body provides a recommendation to the city council 1249 01:01:43,540 --> 01:01:46,220 and then they ultimately make a decision. 1250 01:01:46,220 --> 01:01:48,980 This is a little bit different, 1251 01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:51,340 not too many applications that this body sees 1252 01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:54,140 also is seen by other boards. 1253 01:01:54,140 --> 01:01:55,980 So Cameron typically provides, 1254 01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:57,540 she's our historic preservation officer, 1255 01:01:57,540 --> 01:01:59,260 she typically provides an overview 1256 01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:02,220 of those presentations when that comes forward. 1257 01:02:02,220 --> 01:02:06,980 And then this, once those items are passed, 1258 01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:11,980 is a map showing all of the city's historic districts 1259 01:02:11,980 --> 01:02:15,980 as well as all the historic landmarks. 1260 01:02:15,980 --> 01:02:18,780 So those dots are the historic landmark points 1261 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:19,740 that we have throughout the city, 1262 01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:23,220 and then the sort of shaded area are those districts. 1263 01:02:23,220 --> 01:02:25,780 And this is available on the city's website as well. 1264 01:02:27,340 --> 01:02:30,220 Okay, so the next category or the next type of application 1265 01:02:30,220 --> 01:02:34,900 and I wanna talk about is the DDC text amendments. 1266 01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:36,940 These are simply what they are. 1267 01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:39,340 They are amendments to the regulations 1268 01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:41,740 as provided in the DIN development code. 1269 01:02:41,740 --> 01:02:46,060 And this body is a recommendation body for that, 1270 01:02:46,060 --> 01:02:48,380 and then city council approves it ultimately. 1271 01:02:48,380 --> 01:02:54,700 DDC amendments are initiated 1272 01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:56,660 through various different reasons. 1273 01:02:56,660 --> 01:02:58,420 Sometimes it's city direction, 1274 01:02:58,420 --> 01:03:02,740 city council has asked staff to take up a specific task. 1275 01:03:02,740 --> 01:03:05,220 Or sometimes there's industry changes or challenges 1276 01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:07,340 that we as staff have noticed 1277 01:03:07,340 --> 01:03:08,700 throughout the development process 1278 01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:10,180 or something along those lines. 1279 01:03:10,180 --> 01:03:12,020 And we sort of feel that there is a need 1280 01:03:12,020 --> 01:03:14,780 to take the initiative and update the code 1281 01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:17,620 to meet those challenges. 1282 01:03:17,620 --> 01:03:20,300 And then sometimes it's legislative challenges and changes. 1283 01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:23,700 So I know we're, excuse me, in a session right now 1284 01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,060 where we're gonna probably have to develop 1285 01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:27,140 or update our DIN development code 1286 01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:29,620 with one of these DDC amendments 1287 01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:32,740 or a few of these DDC amendment text 1288 01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:35,940 because of we're having to respond to legislative changes 1289 01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:37,740 and things at the state level. 1290 01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:40,980 Once that idea starts for DDC text amendments, 1291 01:03:40,980 --> 01:03:43,580 we move on to staff research and analysis. 1292 01:03:43,580 --> 01:03:45,380 That's done throughout the whole process, 1293 01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:47,420 but a part of that research and analysis 1294 01:03:47,420 --> 01:03:50,260 is community engagement as well as sometimes, 1295 01:03:50,260 --> 01:03:51,140 depending on the topic, 1296 01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:54,340 taking it forward to the development code review committee, 1297 01:03:54,340 --> 01:03:56,020 which is made up of some of this body 1298 01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:57,780 and some of city council. 1299 01:03:57,780 --> 01:03:59,980 Once we've done all that research and analysis back and forth, 1300 01:03:59,980 --> 01:04:02,140 staff will form a recommendation on the topic 1301 01:04:02,140 --> 01:04:03,540 and those amendment changes. 1302 01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:06,020 And then it'll come before this body. 1303 01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:07,540 This body will make a recommendation. 1304 01:04:07,540 --> 01:04:10,500 City council will make a final decision 1305 01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:13,860 and then it'll be added to the DDC as an update. 1306 01:04:13,860 --> 01:04:20,660 The next class of application that I wanna talk about 1307 01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:23,260 is comprehensive plan amendments. 1308 01:04:23,260 --> 01:04:25,420 Like I said, we did that comprehensive planning process 1309 01:04:25,420 --> 01:04:26,860 overview in February. 1310 01:04:26,860 --> 01:04:28,420 Julie just gave a good presentation 1311 01:04:28,420 --> 01:04:30,860 over area planning and that nature, 1312 01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:33,460 but I just wanted to just a little bit talk about 1313 01:04:33,460 --> 01:04:37,500 or mention that this application process 1314 01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,060 does come before this body. 1315 01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:42,420 And of course, in the event that any of the codes 1316 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:46,020 that Julie mentioned needs to be amended, 1317 01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:49,220 you all would be a part of that process. 1318 01:04:49,220 --> 01:04:52,020 This is that future land use map 1319 01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:56,860 that's adopted with the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan. 1320 01:04:56,860 --> 01:04:59,180 Typically when a cop plan amendments 1321 01:04:59,180 --> 01:05:01,140 just plain come before you all, 1322 01:05:01,140 --> 01:05:05,260 it is to amend a future land use designation on this map. 1323 01:05:05,260 --> 01:05:07,780 So it's to change one color to another, 1324 01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:11,060 and of course what that color represents. 1325 01:05:11,060 --> 01:05:13,540 An example could be one of the things 1326 01:05:13,540 --> 01:05:16,140 that we're considering I think is the 380 corridor area, 1327 01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:18,580 potentially doing a comprehensive plan amendment 1328 01:05:18,580 --> 01:05:20,460 in that area that would ultimately change 1329 01:05:20,460 --> 01:05:23,300 what that future land use designation is for that area. 1330 01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:26,340 Similarly, you have a mobility plan amendment 1331 01:05:26,340 --> 01:05:28,260 on your agenda this evening. 1332 01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:31,660 And typically it is a request to change one of the colors 1333 01:05:31,660 --> 01:05:33,140 on this map essentially. 1334 01:05:33,140 --> 01:05:37,580 And that's either reclassifying one of the roadways 1335 01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:44,580 shown on this map or adjusting the structure of those. 1336 01:05:44,580 --> 01:05:48,380 And then lastly, one of the other things 1337 01:05:48,380 --> 01:05:49,980 or the other thing that I wanted to mention 1338 01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:53,060 was those special sort of one-off site plan applications 1339 01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:56,940 that this body has to review every once in a while. 1340 01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:58,340 And typically in the past, 1341 01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:00,700 our plan development districts require the adoption 1342 01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:04,020 of a detailed site plan prior to development 1343 01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:05,420 being allowed to develop. 1344 01:06:05,420 --> 01:06:07,820 And so those will come back before this body. 1345 01:06:07,820 --> 01:06:09,740 The plan development amendment actually 1346 01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:13,540 that I have on tonight's agenda came before this body, 1347 01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:15,460 I believe in July of last year, 1348 01:06:15,460 --> 01:06:18,220 with a detailed site plan for that to be adopted. 1349 01:06:18,220 --> 01:06:20,420 So you'll see cases like that. 1350 01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:21,500 And then one of the other cases, 1351 01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:24,140 I think that I'll have one of these next month 1352 01:06:24,140 --> 01:06:26,900 is a razor ranch overlay site plan 1353 01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:28,580 or zoning compliance plan, 1354 01:06:28,580 --> 01:06:30,580 which per that overlay standards, 1355 01:06:30,580 --> 01:06:33,340 all site plans for development south of 380 1356 01:06:33,340 --> 01:06:36,020 has to come before this body for final approval. 1357 01:06:36,020 --> 01:06:38,060 So typically if it's a site plan 1358 01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:39,580 as a part of a plan development amendment 1359 01:06:39,580 --> 01:06:41,380 or something along those lines, 1360 01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:43,660 that comes to this body for recommendation. 1361 01:06:43,660 --> 01:06:45,700 And then because it's an ordinance and a zoning change, 1362 01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:48,940 it does have to get approved, final approval by city council. 1363 01:06:48,940 --> 01:06:50,460 Those razor ranch applications, 1364 01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:53,840 this body is the final recommending or approval body. 1365 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,240 And this is an example of that. 1366 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,620 This one is for that Razor Town Center. 1367 01:06:59,620 --> 01:07:03,540 That's a multifamily development south of 380, 1368 01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:04,820 located in Razor. 1369 01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:07,860 And typically I'll present the basic facts 1370 01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:09,180 of what the development is proposing, 1371 01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:11,300 the site plans, landscape plans, 1372 01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:13,660 elevations and things of that nature. 1373 01:07:13,660 --> 01:07:17,340 And then how it stacks up against the criteria for approval. 1374 01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:21,700 That pretty much concludes my presentation. 1375 01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:24,580 I know that was a lot of different topic areas, 1376 01:07:24,580 --> 01:07:27,220 but I'll happily take any questions or comments 1377 01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:28,740 that you have at this time. 1378 01:07:28,740 --> 01:07:34,540 - Okay, any questions? 1379 01:07:34,540 --> 01:07:37,360 All right, good job. 1380 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,200 Thank you. 1381 01:07:43,660 --> 01:07:44,500 Thank you. 1382 01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:50,580 - Okay, well, with that being said, that's all we have. 1383 01:07:50,580 --> 01:07:54,460 So I'm gonna adjourn the work session at 6.27 PM. 1384 01:07:54,460 --> 01:08:00,100 - Good evening. 1385 01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:01,780 Welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission 1386 01:08:01,780 --> 01:08:03,220 meeting tonight. 1387 01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:04,840 I'll be acting chair tonight, 1388 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,460 and I will call this meeting to order at 6.42. 1389 01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:12,800 And with that being said, we do have a quorum present. 1390 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,860 So the next order of business is to move on 1391 01:08:14,860 --> 01:08:17,500 to the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. flag, Texas flag. 1392 01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:19,100 So please stand and join me. 1393 01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:21,060 Pledge of Allegiance. 1394 01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:26,300 - I pledge allegiance to the flag 1395 01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:28,620 of the United States of America, 1396 01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:31,420 and to the republic for which it stands, 1397 01:08:31,420 --> 01:08:34,980 one nation under God, indivisible, 1398 01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:37,140 with liberty and justice for all. 1399 01:08:37,140 --> 01:08:42,700 - On the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the city 1400 01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:47,700 of Texas, one state, under God, one indivisible. 1401 01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:53,920 - Okay. 1402 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,620 Moving on, I just wanted to make an order of business. 1403 01:08:57,620 --> 01:09:02,000 So item 5A on the public, 1404 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,980 on the, yeah, it's on the public hearing portion 1405 01:09:05,980 --> 01:09:07,620 has been withdrawn. 1406 01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:09,340 So that will not be considered tonight. 1407 01:09:09,340 --> 01:09:12,000 We will move on to the next items. 1408 01:09:12,740 --> 01:09:17,740 So that takes us moving on to item 2A. 1409 01:09:17,740 --> 01:09:21,700 Basically consider approval of planning 1410 01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:24,220 and zoning minutes from the last meeting. 1411 01:09:24,220 --> 01:09:26,180 Commissioner McDuff during the work session 1412 01:09:26,180 --> 01:09:28,660 pointed out that there were some errors, 1413 01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:30,700 mainly editorial, clerical errors. 1414 01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:32,660 So we're actually gonna push that, 1415 01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:35,380 and we will consider that at the next meeting. 1416 01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:38,660 And then that takes us on to the consent agenda. 1417 01:09:38,660 --> 01:09:42,020 And so if there are no questions on the consent agenda, 1418 01:09:42,020 --> 01:09:43,580 I will entertain a motion. 1419 01:09:43,580 --> 01:09:53,980 Commissioner Dyer. 1420 01:09:53,980 --> 01:09:56,980 - I make a motion that we approve the consent agenda 1421 01:09:56,980 --> 01:09:58,540 as presented. 1422 01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:59,380 - Okay. 1423 01:09:59,380 --> 01:10:00,500 Commissioner McDade. 1424 01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:01,880 - I'll second the motion. 1425 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,820 - Okay, let's vote. 1426 01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:14,580 Okay, with that, the consent agenda item passes. 1427 01:10:14,580 --> 01:10:20,580 And that moves us on to items for individual consideration. 1428 01:10:20,580 --> 01:10:26,940 Item 4A, FP25-0018, Mia. 1429 01:10:26,940 --> 01:10:37,940 - Good evening, members of the commission. 1430 01:10:37,940 --> 01:10:39,580 Mia Hines, senior planner. 1431 01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,180 This item is a final plat of Hickory Grove, phase four. 1432 01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:45,820 This property is located 1433 01:10:45,820 --> 01:10:47,460 within a municipal utility district 1434 01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:49,980 located just north of West University, 1435 01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:53,720 or between West University, US 380, and Jackson Road. 1436 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:58,060 This phase, phase four, is approximately 80 miles east 1437 01:10:58,060 --> 01:11:02,220 of Jackson Road and FM 156 North. 1438 01:11:02,220 --> 01:11:03,860 At this time, the plat is not meeting 1439 01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:05,220 all of our criteria for approval, 1440 01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:06,780 so we are recommending denial. 1441 01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:08,740 However, we have no objection 1442 01:11:08,740 --> 01:11:11,020 to the applicant-requested extension 1443 01:11:11,020 --> 01:11:14,360 to a date certain of June 25th, 2025. 1444 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,420 At this time, I will take any questions. 1445 01:11:16,420 --> 01:11:20,580 - Okay, are there any questions for Mia? 1446 01:11:20,580 --> 01:11:23,820 I'm gonna entertain a motion. 1447 01:11:23,820 --> 01:11:24,660 Thanks, Mia. 1448 01:11:24,660 --> 01:11:37,580 Commissioner McDuff. 1449 01:11:38,940 --> 01:11:41,040 - Motion to approve the extension. 1450 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:47,140 - Okay, to the date certain of June 25th, okay, okay. 1451 01:11:47,140 --> 01:11:50,780 - I'll second the motion. 1452 01:11:50,780 --> 01:11:53,380 - Okay, let's vote. 1453 01:11:53,380 --> 01:12:05,620 Okay, and the item passes. 1454 01:12:05,620 --> 01:12:10,620 That takes us on to item 4B, FP25-0020. 1455 01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:15,560 Matt. 1456 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,300 - Good evening, Commission. 1457 01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:20,340 Matt Bodine, Assistant Planner, 1458 01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:22,460 here to present a request for approval 1459 01:12:22,460 --> 01:12:24,420 of the final plat of lot one, 1460 01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:27,740 block B, Hickory Creek Center addition. 1461 01:12:27,740 --> 01:12:30,220 The approximately 10 and a half acre track 1462 01:12:30,220 --> 01:12:33,140 is located on the south side of Hickory Street, 1463 01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:36,660 about 610 feet west of Teesley Lane, 1464 01:12:36,660 --> 01:12:38,860 and this is for the purpose of developing 1465 01:12:38,860 --> 01:12:41,740 a self-service storage facility. 1466 01:12:41,740 --> 01:12:43,980 At this time, the final plat does not meet 1467 01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:47,340 our criteria for approval, so we cannot recommend approval. 1468 01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:50,300 However, we have no objection to the requested 1469 01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:54,020 plat review extension to a date certain of June 25th. 1470 01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:59,980 - Okay, are there any questions for Matt? 1471 01:12:59,980 --> 01:13:01,580 If not, I'll entertain a motion. 1472 01:13:03,580 --> 01:13:05,580 - Okay, Commissioner McDuff. 1473 01:13:05,580 --> 01:13:09,260 - Motion to approve this first extension. 1474 01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:19,260 - To the date certain June 25th? 1475 01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:21,780 - To a date certain of June 25th. 1476 01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:23,200 - Okay, Commissioner McDade. 1477 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,520 - I'll second the motion. 1478 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,460 - Okay, let's vote. 1479 01:13:33,140 --> 01:13:38,140 - Okay, motion passes. 1480 01:13:38,140 --> 01:13:43,220 That takes us, moves us on to item five, public hearings. 1481 01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:48,220 And as a reminder, item 5A, MPA 24-003 has been withdrawn, 1482 01:13:48,220 --> 01:13:52,000 and so it will not be considered tonight. 1483 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,000 That takes us on to item 5B, PDA 25-0003. 1484 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,980 It is a public hearing, 1485 01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:04,620 so I'm gonna open the public hearing at this time. 1486 01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:12,620 - Chair, acting chair, I am concerned that I have a conflict 1487 01:14:12,620 --> 01:14:16,700 of interest on this item and would need to recuse myself 1488 01:14:16,700 --> 01:14:20,520 if I hear the merits of this case. 1489 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,500 Therefore, I'd like to make a motion 1490 01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:24,820 to continue this public hearing 1491 01:14:24,820 --> 01:14:29,820 to the commissioner's next meeting of June 25th, 2025, 1492 01:14:30,900 --> 01:14:35,220 to allow more commissioners present to hear this request 1493 01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:40,360 that would meet a quorum if lost this evening. 1494 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:46,940 Excuse me. 1495 01:14:46,940 --> 01:14:47,980 - Okay, we have a motion. 1496 01:14:47,980 --> 01:14:48,980 Do we have a second? 1497 01:14:48,980 --> 01:15:00,460 - Can I ask a question first 1498 01:15:00,460 --> 01:15:02,140 before we second? 1499 01:15:02,140 --> 01:15:05,180 Will there be enough time to get notice out? 1500 01:15:05,180 --> 01:15:07,020 Do you have to send another notice out 1501 01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:08,620 before the next meeting? 1502 01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:11,540 - Since her motion is to a date certain of June 25th, 1503 01:15:11,540 --> 01:15:12,380 no, we would not. 1504 01:15:12,380 --> 01:15:17,340 So this serves, if this request is approved 1505 01:15:17,340 --> 01:15:18,940 by the commission, that serves as notice 1506 01:15:18,940 --> 01:15:20,660 to the applicant and anybody that's here 1507 01:15:20,660 --> 01:15:21,980 that might be interested in it, 1508 01:15:21,980 --> 01:15:24,340 that it's being continued to the 25th. 1509 01:15:24,340 --> 01:15:26,020 - Okay, I'll go ahead and second. 1510 01:15:29,220 --> 01:15:31,980 - Okay, we have a motion and a second to continue. 1511 01:15:31,980 --> 01:15:32,800 Let's vote. 1512 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:45,580 Okay, motion unanimously passes to hold this, 1513 01:15:45,580 --> 01:15:48,340 basically to push it to the next meeting. 1514 01:15:48,340 --> 01:15:53,340 Okay, that takes us on to item 5C, MPA 250001. 1515 01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:58,860 Well, actually, let me close the public hearing 1516 01:15:58,860 --> 01:16:01,260 for item 5B, that item. 1517 01:16:01,260 --> 01:16:02,420 - Actually, you're gonna leave it open 1518 01:16:02,420 --> 01:16:03,540 since we continued it. 1519 01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:06,060 - Oh, well, nevermind, I'll correct it again. 1520 01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:08,020 We're leaving that open. 1521 01:16:08,020 --> 01:16:09,220 So we'll leave that one open 1522 01:16:09,220 --> 01:16:12,700 and we will open item 5C, MPA 250001. 1523 01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:24,700 - Good evening, commissioners. 1524 01:16:24,700 --> 01:16:26,380 My name is Saharis Van Yeri, 1525 01:16:26,380 --> 01:16:28,060 Senior Transportation Planner, 1526 01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:29,780 Development Services. 1527 01:16:29,780 --> 01:16:33,340 Tonight, I'd like to discuss about a mobility plan amendment 1528 01:16:33,340 --> 01:16:37,140 for Underwood, Springside, and Corbyn Road. 1529 01:16:37,140 --> 01:16:39,060 But before I go any further, 1530 01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:42,400 let me talk a little bit about the mobility plan. 1531 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,320 Mobility plan, just like a comprehensive plan, 1532 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,980 is a long-range plan. 1533 01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:49,740 And the current mobility plan was adopted 1534 01:16:49,740 --> 01:16:54,580 by the city council on March 22nd 1535 01:16:54,580 --> 01:16:58,900 as a part of the comprehensive plan for 2040. 1536 01:16:58,900 --> 01:17:02,740 So the mobility plan establishes future roadways, 1537 01:17:02,740 --> 01:17:06,460 pedestrian, and bicyclists network 1538 01:17:06,460 --> 01:17:10,480 to enhance connectivity and efficient movement. 1539 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:13,020 This plan is not intended 1540 01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:17,940 to provide detailed roadway design or plans. 1541 01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:20,940 Rather, it is about general policies 1542 01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:23,660 and broad roadway alignment. 1543 01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:26,300 But it can be further refined as needed 1544 01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:28,820 as part of a new development project 1545 01:17:28,820 --> 01:17:31,960 or new capital improvement project. 1546 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,960 Basically, this mobility plan has three major elements. 1547 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,940 First is roadway alignment. 1548 01:17:39,940 --> 01:17:42,140 And second is right-of-way, 1549 01:17:42,140 --> 01:17:44,080 which refers to the width of the road 1550 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,660 and speed limit on the roads. 1551 01:17:46,660 --> 01:17:49,360 And also the roadway design standards. 1552 01:17:51,140 --> 01:17:56,140 So this mobility plan amendment has four requests. 1553 01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:59,800 The reason that I have all these proposals 1554 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,780 under one amendment is that they are all located 1555 01:18:02,780 --> 01:18:05,060 in a very close distance from each other, 1556 01:18:05,060 --> 01:18:07,620 and they are almost interconnected. 1557 01:18:07,620 --> 01:18:10,600 So going towards all of them one by one, 1558 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,140 and I will explain all of these 1559 01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:16,500 in more details in later slides. 1560 01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:19,340 So the first request is to remove 1561 01:18:19,340 --> 01:18:23,280 the future northern extension of Underwood Road. 1562 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,340 As you can see in the map to the right, 1563 01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:31,340 which is about located south of Airport Road or 15, 1564 01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:38,100 or FM 1515, and to the south, a terminus at Springside. 1565 01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:42,660 But I should mention that the general area 1566 01:18:42,660 --> 01:18:47,660 of these requests located at southwest of the city of Denton, 1567 01:18:49,380 --> 01:18:51,780 and like east of airport. 1568 01:18:51,780 --> 01:18:54,680 So the second road and second request 1569 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,060 is about removing the future 1570 01:18:57,060 --> 01:19:00,880 western extension of Corbin Road. 1571 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,980 The third request is about extending 1572 01:19:02,980 --> 01:19:07,200 the functional classification of north-south Corbin Road. 1573 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:13,060 Also, the fourth road is Springside Road, 1574 01:19:13,060 --> 01:19:15,060 which we are requesting to unifying 1575 01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:19,060 the roadway classification to a collector 1576 01:19:19,060 --> 01:19:21,820 as the roadway classification for a Springside. 1577 01:19:21,820 --> 01:19:26,260 So now Underwood Road. 1578 01:19:26,260 --> 01:19:29,660 Existing Underwood Road located 1579 01:19:29,660 --> 01:19:33,060 between Springside to the north, 1580 01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:36,860 and FM 2449 to the south. 1581 01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:39,940 However, according to the mobility plan, 1582 01:19:39,940 --> 01:19:42,860 the northern part of Underwood is extended 1583 01:19:42,860 --> 01:19:46,060 to FM 1515 or Airport Road. 1584 01:19:46,060 --> 01:19:49,540 The staff requesting to remove this portion of Underwood 1585 01:19:49,540 --> 01:19:51,700 because of the following reasons. 1586 01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:56,340 First, as you can see on the map to the left and up, 1587 01:19:56,340 --> 01:20:00,820 this road located inside a riparian buffer and floodplain. 1588 01:20:00,820 --> 01:20:02,700 Therefore, in order to avoid 1589 01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:05,020 any adverse environmental impact 1590 01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:09,140 and disturbing the bottomland hardwood and local wildlife, 1591 01:20:09,140 --> 01:20:12,980 staff request to remove this portion of road. 1592 01:20:12,980 --> 01:20:16,540 Also, as you can see, this road is located between 1593 01:20:16,540 --> 01:20:19,500 West Court as a secondary arterial 1594 01:20:19,500 --> 01:20:21,820 and Corbin Road to the right. 1595 01:20:21,820 --> 01:20:24,420 So in the absence of this road, 1596 01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:26,300 there will be enough road capacity 1597 01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:29,620 to take care of the traffic movement in this area. 1598 01:20:29,620 --> 01:20:34,540 The map to the left-hand bottom of the page 1599 01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:37,260 shows the final configuration of this road. 1600 01:20:37,260 --> 01:20:42,260 So as you can see, the northern section of Underwood 1601 01:20:42,380 --> 01:20:44,740 will be connected to the West Court 1602 01:20:44,740 --> 01:20:48,060 by re-aligning to the left with the care. 1603 01:20:48,060 --> 01:20:55,380 The second request is for East-West Corbin Road. 1604 01:20:55,380 --> 01:20:56,780 As you can see in this map, 1605 01:20:56,780 --> 01:21:00,780 the East-West Corbin Road started from east of I-35 1606 01:21:00,780 --> 01:21:03,900 from Bonnie Bray Street, crosses I-35. 1607 01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:06,300 Of course, the crossing is now closed, 1608 01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:08,700 but the focus of this request 1609 01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:11,620 is located inside this orange loop. 1610 01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:15,460 As you can see, according to the mobility plan, 1611 01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:18,460 this future extension of Corbin Road 1612 01:21:18,460 --> 01:21:20,700 crosses three properties. 1613 01:21:20,700 --> 01:21:22,460 So after a detailed study, 1614 01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:25,700 staff recommends to remove this portion of road 1615 01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:28,860 to avoid disturbing the surrounding properties. 1616 01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:31,020 Also, the absence of this road 1617 01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:34,060 will have no impact on traffic flow 1618 01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:36,580 because of the existing Corbin Road 1619 01:21:36,580 --> 01:21:39,340 and a Springside Road in a very close distance 1620 01:21:39,340 --> 01:21:41,340 of this target road. 1621 01:21:41,340 --> 01:21:43,020 There will be enough road capacity 1622 01:21:43,020 --> 01:21:45,100 to take care of the traffic movement. 1623 01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:49,420 The third request is about 1624 01:21:49,420 --> 01:21:52,540 extending the roadway classification. 1625 01:21:52,540 --> 01:21:56,900 Currently, the Corbin Road existing between Airport Road 1626 01:21:56,900 --> 01:21:59,860 all the way south to the East-West, 1627 01:21:59,860 --> 01:22:03,100 connecting to the East-West Corbin Road. 1628 01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:05,900 But mobility plan only identify 1629 01:22:05,900 --> 01:22:11,180 these roads from airport to Springside as a collector. 1630 01:22:11,180 --> 01:22:14,940 Staff recommend to extend this roadway classification 1631 01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:16,860 to provide better connectivity 1632 01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:20,500 and improved access for residents around this area. 1633 01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:26,540 The fourth request is for Springside Road. 1634 01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:28,700 As you can see in this map, 1635 01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:33,620 Springside Road, which is located in the orange circle, 1636 01:22:33,620 --> 01:22:37,220 is located between West Court Road and Corbin Road. 1637 01:22:37,220 --> 01:22:39,700 The western section of Springside 1638 01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:42,740 has been identified as secondary arteriole, 1639 01:22:42,740 --> 01:22:45,180 whereas the eastern section is identified 1640 01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:47,700 as a collector in the mobility plan. 1641 01:22:47,700 --> 01:22:51,100 Staff recommends to unify this roadway classification 1642 01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:52,780 as a collector 1643 01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:57,340 to provide the unifying roadway classification. 1644 01:22:57,340 --> 01:23:01,500 Just for some background about this roadway classification, 1645 01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:04,980 this roadway classification refers to the width of the road 1646 01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,060 and the speed limit. 1647 01:23:06,060 --> 01:23:09,820 As a collector, the roadway should have 65 feet 1648 01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:11,740 of total right-of-way, 1649 01:23:11,740 --> 01:23:16,740 and the speed limit will be from 30 to 35 miles per hour. 1650 01:23:16,740 --> 01:23:19,340 However, as a secondary arteriole, 1651 01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:21,860 the right-of-way will be 110, 1652 01:23:21,860 --> 01:23:26,500 and the speed limit will be 35 to 40 miles per hour. 1653 01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:30,780 So we recommend to downgrade this roadway classification 1654 01:23:30,780 --> 01:23:34,500 to a collector, especially because this area, 1655 01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:37,900 located in a complex kind of land use, 1656 01:23:37,900 --> 01:23:42,900 the mix of rural residential and heavy industrial area, 1657 01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:46,580 this road is going to be used by passenger cars 1658 01:23:46,580 --> 01:23:49,380 and heavy commercial trucks. 1659 01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:51,620 So by lowering the classification 1660 01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:53,420 and lowering the speed limit, 1661 01:23:53,420 --> 01:23:58,420 we are providing a safer passage for all the road users. 1662 01:23:58,420 --> 01:24:03,340 And of course, because it is very close to the airport road, 1663 01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:05,380 there will be enough road capacity, 1664 01:24:05,380 --> 01:24:08,060 because airport road is a primary arteriole, 1665 01:24:08,060 --> 01:24:11,060 so they can take care of the traffic flow in the area. 1666 01:24:11,060 --> 01:24:16,260 So as you can see, the map on the right 1667 01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:20,580 shows the final configuration of these proposed changes. 1668 01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:26,140 All these proposals meet the criteria for approval, 1669 01:24:26,140 --> 01:24:28,420 especially regarding to the comprehensive plan, 1670 01:24:28,420 --> 01:24:30,540 future land use and mobility plan. 1671 01:24:32,260 --> 01:24:36,100 We have done the public outreach for this area. 1672 01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:39,700 We had an in-person meeting back in May 7th with residents, 1673 01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:41,540 and we addressed the questions 1674 01:24:41,540 --> 01:24:44,340 and explained the process for them. 1675 01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:49,020 We had newspaper ad, website announcement, property signs, 1676 01:24:49,020 --> 01:24:50,900 and we have also made the notices 1677 01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:54,660 to 200 and 500 buffer around the target roads, 1678 01:24:54,660 --> 01:24:57,460 and we have received one written letter 1679 01:24:57,460 --> 01:24:59,220 in favor of this request. 1680 01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:04,660 Staff recommends approval of this proposal, 1681 01:25:04,660 --> 01:25:09,660 as it complies with the criteria in section 271D of the DDC. 1682 01:25:09,660 --> 01:25:12,100 The next step will be a public hearing 1683 01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:14,620 at City Council on June 17th. 1684 01:25:14,620 --> 01:25:16,380 Thank you. 1685 01:25:16,380 --> 01:25:25,380 - Okay, are there any questions from the commission? 1686 01:25:25,380 --> 01:25:27,620 - I do. 1687 01:25:27,620 --> 01:25:30,900 First, just commending the city staff 1688 01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:34,620 on recognizing that this is going to help the environment 1689 01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:36,300 and all the wildlife there. 1690 01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:41,300 I have to assume, as well, that Underwood, 1691 01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:44,820 by taking that out, I would assume 1692 01:25:44,820 --> 01:25:47,460 there would have to be a bridge going over there, 1693 01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:49,940 over the creek, so that's also a money saver 1694 01:25:49,940 --> 01:25:51,740 for the city as well. 1695 01:25:51,740 --> 01:25:56,740 So way to go to save the city some money, so thank you. 1696 01:25:56,740 --> 01:25:57,780 - Sure. 1697 01:25:59,620 --> 01:26:01,380 I will say, it does look like this configuration. 1698 01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:05,100 Obviously, it avoids the wetlands and the, 1699 01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,700 or not the wetlands, the floodplain and the habitat, 1700 01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:09,780 but it also looks like it ultimately 1701 01:26:09,780 --> 01:26:11,500 reduces the surrounding residents, 1702 01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:14,660 and so this seems like a good thing. 1703 01:26:14,660 --> 01:26:15,620 I'll just say that. 1704 01:26:15,620 --> 01:26:18,940 That being said, it is a public hearing, 1705 01:26:18,940 --> 01:26:22,000 so if there's no other questions from the commission, 1706 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,620 I can take questions. 1707 01:26:25,620 --> 01:26:28,580 That being said, I have one card, 1708 01:26:28,580 --> 01:26:30,500 so we'll start with the cards. 1709 01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:33,500 Mr. Kyle Eaton, please come up, 1710 01:26:33,500 --> 01:26:37,860 state your name and address, and you have four minutes. 1711 01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:43,940 - My name is Kyle Eaton, I'm at 2999 Corbin Road. 1712 01:26:43,940 --> 01:26:46,300 I'm actually on the other side of 35, 1713 01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:48,940 but this was brought to my attention, 1714 01:26:48,940 --> 01:26:52,740 and so really kind of what I want to focus on, 1715 01:26:52,740 --> 01:26:56,180 on this item, is the including but not limited to. 1716 01:26:56,180 --> 01:26:59,880 So I guess my question, my concern on this, 1717 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,380 is item number one, 1718 01:27:01,380 --> 01:27:04,620 which is removing the piece of Underwood, 1719 01:27:04,620 --> 01:27:07,280 and the concern that I have with that is, 1720 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,460 I guess the role potentially that, 1721 01:27:10,460 --> 01:27:12,140 I think it's Walter P. Moore, 1722 01:27:12,140 --> 01:27:15,120 I think he was the consultant that did the mobility plan, 1723 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,740 what role he actually played, 1724 01:27:16,740 --> 01:27:19,120 what role they played in this whole process, 1725 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,900 because when I look at Underwood, 1726 01:27:20,900 --> 01:27:23,140 yes, it's in a floodplain, 1727 01:27:23,140 --> 01:27:25,580 it's not just crossing a floodplain, 1728 01:27:25,580 --> 01:27:30,020 there's about 2,700 foot of road that's in a floodplain. 1729 01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:31,700 So my question is, 1730 01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:35,700 how do you make this recommendation on a mobility plan, 1731 01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:37,660 and it gets to this stage, 1732 01:27:37,660 --> 01:27:40,780 where somebody on city staff has to catch it and says, 1733 01:27:40,780 --> 01:27:44,420 somebody, we can't do this, this is impossible. 1734 01:27:44,420 --> 01:27:46,460 And I don't think it's limited just to 1735 01:27:46,460 --> 01:27:47,980 that portion of the road, 1736 01:27:47,980 --> 01:27:50,780 and my concern is that we've hired these outside consultants 1737 01:27:50,780 --> 01:27:52,260 to try to save money, 1738 01:27:52,260 --> 01:27:54,360 and what we've ended up doing is we have people 1739 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,380 that don't know the city, 1740 01:27:56,380 --> 01:27:57,580 they don't know the city, 1741 01:27:57,580 --> 01:28:00,260 and then that has very real consequences 1742 01:28:00,260 --> 01:28:02,100 for the people that live here, 1743 01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:05,940 because whenever a developer sees a secondary arterial, 1744 01:28:05,940 --> 01:28:07,700 I can tell you they are rubbing their hand 1745 01:28:07,700 --> 01:28:10,880 and say, mixed use, let's put mixed use there, 1746 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,360 'cause the roads will support it, 1747 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,340 we're not gonna get pushed back on that. 1748 01:28:14,340 --> 01:28:16,340 So that's my first concern. 1749 01:28:16,340 --> 01:28:17,820 My second concern is, 1750 01:28:17,820 --> 01:28:22,620 why are we stopping on downgrading it 1751 01:28:22,620 --> 01:28:26,420 on the collector on Corbin Road, just to that one section? 1752 01:28:26,420 --> 01:28:30,300 I have the I-35 schematics right here, 1753 01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:36,420 and there is no connection to I-35 for Corbin. 1754 01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:40,560 And so my question is, on the north south of Corbin, 1755 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,420 where we're downgrading it to a collector, 1756 01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:43,780 why does it stop there? 1757 01:28:43,780 --> 01:28:47,580 Why not take it, the remainder of the way, 235, 1758 01:28:47,580 --> 01:28:49,640 and make downgrade that as well? 1759 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,100 That's about 300 foot of road, 1760 01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:55,800 300 or 400 foot of road, that serves three residents. 1761 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,020 And so I don't understand why, 1762 01:28:58,020 --> 01:28:59,860 if you're making these changes already, 1763 01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:01,740 you just don't go ahead and you finish them out. 1764 01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:04,020 It doesn't make sense to leave out another portion. 1765 01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:06,940 That's a secondary arterial in my opinion. 1766 01:29:06,940 --> 01:29:07,780 Thank you. 1767 01:29:07,780 --> 01:29:12,460 - Okay, it is a public hearing, 1768 01:29:12,460 --> 01:29:15,260 so if anybody else would like to speak, please come up. 1769 01:29:15,260 --> 01:29:18,940 Please state your name and address, 1770 01:29:18,940 --> 01:29:20,400 and you have four minutes. 1771 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,220 - Kevin McKinney, and I live at 2057 Underwood Road. 1772 01:29:24,220 --> 01:29:29,220 And the concern I've got is that we had a plan, 1773 01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:33,240 then we changed it and came up with a new plan. 1774 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,940 And then before May 7th, we had a new plan, 1775 01:29:36,940 --> 01:29:40,900 which is what you are trying to stop. 1776 01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:42,240 Is that what we're doing? 1777 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,940 You're trying to change that and go to a new plan? 1778 01:29:44,940 --> 01:29:47,380 We're Underwood Road, is that correct? 1779 01:29:47,380 --> 01:29:48,740 Did I read that right? 1780 01:29:48,740 --> 01:29:52,540 - So currently, Underwood Road runs north of Springside. 1781 01:29:52,540 --> 01:29:53,940 This would remove that portion. 1782 01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:55,180 - Right, okay, all right. 1783 01:29:55,180 --> 01:29:59,220 And the Corbin Road Bridge is not gonna be reopened? 1784 01:29:59,220 --> 01:30:02,340 Was that, yes, no? 1785 01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:03,820 - That would be something for staff, 1786 01:30:03,820 --> 01:30:05,660 but this is really not a back and forth. 1787 01:30:05,660 --> 01:30:06,940 This is a time for you to-- 1788 01:30:06,940 --> 01:30:08,300 - I'm just asking questions. 1789 01:30:08,300 --> 01:30:10,220 You asked for any questions, these were the questions. 1790 01:30:10,220 --> 01:30:13,900 - Okay, we'll let staff answer them when you're done. 1791 01:30:13,900 --> 01:30:18,420 - Because I had to actually contact the P&Z 1792 01:30:18,420 --> 01:30:21,060 to get notified of all these meetings. 1793 01:30:21,060 --> 01:30:24,460 I'm just worried about my piece of property, 1794 01:30:24,460 --> 01:30:27,380 and from what I remember on Underwood Road, 1795 01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:32,120 there are four houses, there's four houses. 1796 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:36,380 And then on Corbin, there's three residents. 1797 01:30:36,380 --> 01:30:39,740 And Springside, one. 1798 01:30:39,740 --> 01:30:42,640 I mean, and we're here. 1799 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,740 And this is what's affecting us. 1800 01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:49,260 You're home, nobody wants at your home, your home. 1801 01:30:49,260 --> 01:30:52,740 Nobody wants coming in and taking roads over, driving down. 1802 01:30:52,740 --> 01:30:54,580 You're talking about the safety on that road. 1803 01:30:54,580 --> 01:30:56,340 It's 30 miles an hour now. 1804 01:30:56,340 --> 01:30:58,660 It's a blacktop road on Underwood. 1805 01:30:58,660 --> 01:31:03,340 And it says no trucks, no one's enforcing that. 1806 01:31:03,340 --> 01:31:08,100 Y'all, the city built a bridge to keep it from flooding. 1807 01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:11,540 And they're just destroying the road 1808 01:31:11,540 --> 01:31:14,460 and doing 50 miles an hour down that road all day long. 1809 01:31:14,460 --> 01:31:16,580 So if you've never been down Underwood Road, 1810 01:31:16,580 --> 01:31:18,380 y'all might want to go take a visit, 1811 01:31:18,380 --> 01:31:21,860 what you're voting on, okay? 1812 01:31:21,860 --> 01:31:22,700 That's my point. 1813 01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:31,060 - Yeah, are there any other public speakers? 1814 01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:35,860 You'll have to come up to the podium, 1815 01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:37,300 state your name and address. 1816 01:31:37,300 --> 01:31:46,120 Okay, is there anyone else? 1817 01:31:47,140 --> 01:31:50,140 Okay, one more time, anyone else like to speak? 1818 01:31:50,140 --> 01:31:52,940 Okay. 1819 01:31:52,940 --> 01:32:07,740 Okay, well, if there's no other public speakers, 1820 01:32:07,740 --> 01:32:10,120 then I'm going to close the public hearing 1821 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,460 and open it up for questions. 1822 01:32:12,460 --> 01:32:14,300 Commissioner, are there any questions? 1823 01:32:16,580 --> 01:32:21,580 Okay, well, I do have a couple of questions. 1824 01:32:21,580 --> 01:32:30,140 One, it looks like as if this proposal 1825 01:32:30,140 --> 01:32:32,580 would ultimately have less of an impact 1826 01:32:32,580 --> 01:32:37,140 to the residents and to the area around it. 1827 01:32:37,140 --> 01:32:39,260 It seems to me like this would be less of an impact 1828 01:32:39,260 --> 01:32:40,620 than the current plan. 1829 01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:42,580 I'd like staff to kind of come up 1830 01:32:42,580 --> 01:32:45,700 and talk about their analysis and from a traffic side. 1831 01:32:47,580 --> 01:32:50,760 - Good evening, Chandra Muruganandam, 1832 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,460 city traffic engineer, city of Denton, 1833 01:32:52,460 --> 01:32:54,340 transportation services. 1834 01:32:54,340 --> 01:32:56,260 So based on the proposal we have, 1835 01:32:56,260 --> 01:32:59,660 we are actually downgrading some of the roadways, 1836 01:32:59,660 --> 01:33:03,220 so that should actually be less impact to the residents 1837 01:33:03,220 --> 01:33:05,420 as what is in the classification right now. 1838 01:33:05,420 --> 01:33:09,860 We are actually reducing it from a secondary arterials 1839 01:33:09,860 --> 01:33:12,060 to collectors, so that we'll be having 1840 01:33:12,060 --> 01:33:14,980 less right of way undertaking in the future 1841 01:33:14,980 --> 01:33:19,220 when the developments occur on those areas, 1842 01:33:19,220 --> 01:33:20,460 on those roadways. 1843 01:33:20,460 --> 01:33:29,060 - Chandra, can you speak to why Corbin Road 1844 01:33:29,060 --> 01:33:33,180 on the east-west portion was not downgraded as well 1845 01:33:33,180 --> 01:33:35,020 as part of this request? 1846 01:33:35,020 --> 01:33:38,440 - So right now as we see, we have to see 1847 01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:42,060 on the mobility plan what is on the development plan, 1848 01:33:42,060 --> 01:33:44,940 not right now, what is on the 2040, 1849 01:33:44,940 --> 01:33:48,420 as per the 2022 adoption of the mobility plan. 1850 01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:52,340 So as the land area is available for developments, 1851 01:33:52,340 --> 01:33:56,740 those roadways will be, has to match those classifications. 1852 01:33:56,740 --> 01:34:01,740 But if the data supports to downgrade it 1853 01:34:01,740 --> 01:34:05,920 and offer to provide the enough level of service 1854 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,020 and with the development numbers that showing, 1855 01:34:09,020 --> 01:34:10,700 then we could downgrade it. 1856 01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:14,980 But as such, when these studies are done, 1857 01:34:14,980 --> 01:34:19,980 the models predict how much trips are projected in the 2040 1858 01:34:19,980 --> 01:34:23,140 and we will be relying on those models 1859 01:34:23,140 --> 01:34:25,540 to have these classifications done. 1860 01:34:25,540 --> 01:34:30,540 And as a case by case, these are at a high level maps. 1861 01:34:30,540 --> 01:34:32,020 We will take a closer look at it 1862 01:34:32,020 --> 01:34:35,940 as the development comes in to see if it fits the needs, 1863 01:34:35,940 --> 01:34:38,220 whether it supports downgrading, 1864 01:34:38,220 --> 01:34:40,780 whether it has alternate capacities to handle 1865 01:34:40,780 --> 01:34:41,760 the future traffic. 1866 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:49,420 - Yeah, Bettina, would you like to add something? 1867 01:34:49,420 --> 01:34:50,740 - Yeah, I just wanted to add something 1868 01:34:50,740 --> 01:34:53,620 just to follow up to a comment that Chandra made. 1869 01:34:53,620 --> 01:34:58,620 So he's right, when we did the update to the mobility plan, 1870 01:34:58,620 --> 01:35:01,580 these are, there are models that are in, 1871 01:35:01,580 --> 01:35:04,180 while the city may hire a consultant team to assist us, 1872 01:35:04,180 --> 01:35:07,620 staff is intimately involved with making recommendations 1873 01:35:07,620 --> 01:35:10,900 as well as to what the mobility plan map should show. 1874 01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:14,060 So to his point, you know, we do the analysis 1875 01:35:14,060 --> 01:35:18,620 that we have at the time, it's a higher level analysis. 1876 01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:21,140 We do have the ability though to study areas 1877 01:35:21,140 --> 01:35:23,340 and make amendments to the map as needed 1878 01:35:23,340 --> 01:35:26,180 because we realize sometimes conditions can change 1879 01:35:26,180 --> 01:35:29,020 within an area or we're seeing a different 1880 01:35:29,020 --> 01:35:31,620 development pattern and so it's worthy to go back 1881 01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:34,320 and do a deeper dive analysis on recommendations 1882 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,920 associated with the mobility plan. 1883 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:37,620 So that's why you have the recommendations 1884 01:35:37,620 --> 01:35:40,420 that are before you this evening to make those changes. 1885 01:35:40,420 --> 01:35:43,900 I had one I thought and I just lost it, I'm sorry. 1886 01:35:43,900 --> 01:35:47,500 But it, oh, the other thing is, keep in mind, 1887 01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:49,340 when the mobility plan is adopted, 1888 01:35:49,340 --> 01:35:51,360 and Chandra, you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, 1889 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,220 but we actually have language in the plan also 1890 01:35:53,220 --> 01:35:55,660 that acknowledges that the roadway alignments 1891 01:35:55,660 --> 01:35:58,220 have the ability to shift 1,000 feet in either direction 1892 01:35:58,220 --> 01:36:02,800 because again, we're looking at locations of roadways, 1893 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,700 it's a higher level analysis that's done at the time 1894 01:36:04,700 --> 01:36:06,460 when we're adopting the plan. 1895 01:36:06,460 --> 01:36:10,100 We realize we may not have gotten it perfect, 1896 01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:12,180 possibly on alignment or some conditions have changed 1897 01:36:12,180 --> 01:36:13,380 or we're working with a property owner 1898 01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:15,460 where that alignment might need to adjust. 1899 01:36:15,460 --> 01:36:18,140 And so the mobility plan has some level of flexibility 1900 01:36:18,140 --> 01:36:22,340 built into it regarding where the final road does land, 1901 01:36:22,340 --> 01:36:24,540 if you will, on the ground. 1902 01:36:24,540 --> 01:36:27,620 But so we have that flexibility built in there. 1903 01:36:27,620 --> 01:36:30,120 So again, it's taken into consideration 1904 01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,980 as conditions are evolving whether or not 1905 01:36:32,980 --> 01:36:35,860 we have the ability to or whether or not it's necessary 1906 01:36:35,860 --> 01:36:37,820 to make some of those changes. 1907 01:36:37,820 --> 01:36:38,660 - That's right. 1908 01:36:38,660 --> 01:36:45,020 - Okay, any other questions from the commission? 1909 01:36:45,020 --> 01:36:49,100 Yes. 1910 01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:51,300 - I had a question regarding the comment 1911 01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:54,300 about the 300 feet of Corbin Road 1912 01:36:54,300 --> 01:36:58,860 not being completely extended to 35. 1913 01:36:58,860 --> 01:37:00,780 And I'm sorry if some of what she said, 1914 01:37:00,780 --> 01:37:04,060 Tina addressed that, but is there some reason 1915 01:37:04,060 --> 01:37:07,340 why that wasn't considered or is it not in the plan? 1916 01:37:07,340 --> 01:37:11,540 - As such, we have been told from the design team 1917 01:37:11,540 --> 01:37:13,220 that is part of the plan. 1918 01:37:13,220 --> 01:37:16,140 And they are in a schematic stage at this time. 1919 01:37:16,140 --> 01:37:21,200 And we have to take a look at specifically 1920 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,260 on what section they are mentioning 1921 01:37:23,260 --> 01:37:26,320 that portion of 300 feet, 1922 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,220 they are wanting to take a look at it. 1923 01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:33,740 And how much distance is it to 35? 1924 01:37:33,740 --> 01:37:35,020 What's the distance? 1925 01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:36,860 He mentioned 300. 1926 01:37:36,860 --> 01:37:41,740 - So on this plan, in the mobility plan amendment, 1927 01:37:41,740 --> 01:37:45,460 the roadway that the Corbin Road shown on this map, 1928 01:37:45,460 --> 01:37:48,700 there will be a bridge that's constructed 1929 01:37:48,700 --> 01:37:50,980 the north-south Corbin that was closed 1930 01:37:50,980 --> 01:37:53,020 due to a fatality back in 2010. 1931 01:37:53,020 --> 01:37:57,060 So that portion of the bridge is still intact. 1932 01:37:57,060 --> 01:37:59,140 That plan is to build it back. 1933 01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:00,940 - Okay. 1934 01:38:00,940 --> 01:38:07,500 Any other questions? 1935 01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:12,580 I know the public hearing has been closed. 1936 01:38:12,580 --> 01:38:13,420 I'm sorry. 1937 01:38:13,420 --> 01:38:19,940 Okay, with that, I'll entertain a motion. 1938 01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:30,940 - Okay. 1939 01:38:30,940 --> 01:38:39,540 We have a motion and a second. 1940 01:38:39,540 --> 01:38:41,180 Commissioner Dyer. 1941 01:38:41,180 --> 01:38:43,020 - I'd like to make a motion to go ahead 1942 01:38:43,020 --> 01:38:47,220 and move forward on recommending the proposed changes 1943 01:38:47,220 --> 01:38:48,360 to the city council. 1944 01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,580 - Commissioner MacDuff. 1945 01:38:51,580 --> 01:38:54,860 - I'd like to second this motion. 1946 01:38:54,860 --> 01:38:58,320 And may I add something, a comment here? 1947 01:38:58,320 --> 01:38:59,160 - Sure. 1948 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,000 - Commissioner MacDuff did before. 1949 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,300 Commissioner Dyer did before. 1950 01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:03,820 I want us to move forward with this, 1951 01:39:03,820 --> 01:39:06,860 but I certainly want us to take into account these comments. 1952 01:39:06,860 --> 01:39:10,420 - Okay. 1953 01:39:10,420 --> 01:39:11,820 Well, with that, let's vote. 1954 01:39:27,460 --> 01:39:29,820 Okay, motion passes four zero. 1955 01:39:29,820 --> 01:39:34,820 Moving on to item five D, MPA 25-0002. 1956 01:39:34,820 --> 01:39:44,820 And I will go ahead and open the public hearing at this time. 1957 01:39:57,460 --> 01:39:59,500 - Good evening, Sahar Isfandiari, 1958 01:39:59,500 --> 01:40:00,980 senior transportation planner. 1959 01:40:00,980 --> 01:40:05,500 This is MPA 25-002A, 1960 01:40:05,500 --> 01:40:09,500 which is about removing a future collector. 1961 01:40:09,500 --> 01:40:11,300 As you can see in this map, 1962 01:40:11,300 --> 01:40:14,420 the general area of this future collector 1963 01:40:14,420 --> 01:40:17,620 located at the west side of the city. 1964 01:40:17,620 --> 01:40:20,180 To be more specific, it is located 1965 01:40:20,180 --> 01:40:24,180 between item five D and MPA 25-0002A. 1966 01:40:24,180 --> 01:40:29,180 It is located between I-35 and Western, 1967 01:40:29,180 --> 01:40:33,420 south of US-380 and north of Jim Crystal. 1968 01:40:33,420 --> 01:40:39,860 So, as I mentioned, 1969 01:40:39,860 --> 01:40:44,740 staff requesting removing this future collector. 1970 01:40:44,740 --> 01:40:48,180 And the reason behind this request is, 1971 01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:51,340 first, as you can see this future collector 1972 01:40:51,340 --> 01:40:54,540 located in the pink circle. 1973 01:40:54,540 --> 01:40:59,180 There is a railroad, Kansas City Southern Railroad, 1974 01:40:59,180 --> 01:41:02,660 that crosses this future roadway. 1975 01:41:02,660 --> 01:41:06,180 So, according to the regulations, 1976 01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:09,140 we need, in order to open a new crossing, 1977 01:41:09,140 --> 01:41:12,420 we have to close at least two or more 1978 01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:16,180 other existing crossing in the city to open a new one. 1979 01:41:16,180 --> 01:41:18,540 And of course, any new crossing 1980 01:41:18,540 --> 01:41:21,100 will have its own safety concerns. 1981 01:41:21,860 --> 01:41:24,380 The second reason is that, as you can see, 1982 01:41:24,380 --> 01:41:26,180 the northern section of this road 1983 01:41:26,180 --> 01:41:28,980 located inside a floodplain. 1984 01:41:28,980 --> 01:41:33,980 So, in order to prevent any adverse environmental impact, 1985 01:41:33,980 --> 01:41:37,820 we are requesting to remove this future collector 1986 01:41:37,820 --> 01:41:40,500 from the mobility plan. 1987 01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:44,300 Also, noticing that this road 1988 01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:47,300 located between I-35 as a highway 1989 01:41:47,300 --> 01:41:50,860 and Western Road as a primary arterial, 1990 01:41:50,860 --> 01:41:52,980 there will be enough road capacity 1991 01:41:52,980 --> 01:41:55,500 in the absence of this future collector 1992 01:41:55,500 --> 01:41:58,340 to take care of the traffic movement in the area. 1993 01:41:58,340 --> 01:42:03,860 To the right, you can see the future 1994 01:42:03,860 --> 01:42:05,620 or proposed mobility plan. 1995 01:42:05,620 --> 01:42:10,780 And this proposal meet the criteria for approval, 1996 01:42:10,780 --> 01:42:13,340 especially regarding to the comprehensive plan, 1997 01:42:13,340 --> 01:42:15,580 future land use and mobility plan. 1998 01:42:15,580 --> 01:42:20,460 We've done the public outreach for this request 1999 01:42:20,460 --> 01:42:22,820 through newspaper ad, website announcement, 2000 01:42:22,820 --> 01:42:26,100 property signs, we have also mailed the notices 2001 01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:30,020 to 200 and 500 feet buffer around the target road, 2002 01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:33,060 and we have received one written letter in response 2003 01:42:33,060 --> 01:42:35,180 and in favor of this request. 2004 01:42:35,180 --> 01:42:39,980 Staff recommends approval of this proposal 2005 01:42:39,980 --> 01:42:44,980 as it complies with the criteria in Section 271D of the DDC. 2006 01:42:44,980 --> 01:42:47,060 The next step will be a public hearing 2007 01:42:47,060 --> 01:42:49,780 at City Council on June 17th. 2008 01:42:49,780 --> 01:42:50,620 Thank you. 2009 01:42:50,620 --> 01:42:53,980 - Okay, are there any questions for staff 2010 01:42:53,980 --> 01:42:56,780 from the commission? 2011 01:42:56,780 --> 01:42:59,780 Okay, this is a public hearing, 2012 01:42:59,780 --> 01:43:02,820 so if anyone would like to come up and make comments, 2013 01:43:02,820 --> 01:43:04,580 you are more than welcome to do so. 2014 01:43:04,580 --> 01:43:11,500 Okay, looks like we don't have anyone, 2015 01:43:11,500 --> 01:43:16,260 so in that case, I am going to close the public hearing 2016 01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:19,740 and commission if there's any discussion 2017 01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:22,420 or if anyone wants to make a motion, 2018 01:43:22,420 --> 01:43:23,620 I'd entertain a motion. 2019 01:43:23,620 --> 01:43:29,620 Okay, Commissioner Dyer. 2020 01:43:29,620 --> 01:43:31,300 - I'll make a motion that we move forward 2021 01:43:31,300 --> 01:43:33,980 to recommend to the City Council 2022 01:43:33,980 --> 01:43:36,260 the changes in this proposal. 2023 01:43:36,260 --> 01:43:38,140 - Commissioner McDonough. 2024 01:43:38,140 --> 01:43:40,860 - I'll second the motion. 2025 01:43:40,860 --> 01:43:41,900 - Okay, let's vote. 2026 01:43:48,420 --> 01:43:50,540 Okay, item passes unanimously. 2027 01:43:50,540 --> 01:43:55,540 That takes us on to Item 6A, PZ25-022, 2028 01:43:55,540 --> 01:44:00,980 hold a discussion regarding the planning 2029 01:44:00,980 --> 01:44:02,900 and zoning project matrix. 2030 01:44:02,900 --> 01:44:10,540 - Thank you, Chair Riggs. 2031 01:44:10,540 --> 01:44:13,060 So there were no changes made to the matrix 2032 01:44:13,060 --> 01:44:14,460 that was included in your packet 2033 01:44:14,460 --> 01:44:17,180 since there were no requests from the prior meeting. 2034 01:44:17,180 --> 01:44:19,740 And then also regarding actions 2035 01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:22,460 that council has taken on development projects 2036 01:44:22,460 --> 01:44:25,820 that the commission also may have heard previously. 2037 01:44:25,820 --> 01:44:29,620 Since your meeting on May 28th, 2038 01:44:29,620 --> 01:44:31,700 the commission only had, or excuse me, 2039 01:44:31,700 --> 01:44:33,820 the council only had action on one agenda item 2040 01:44:33,820 --> 01:44:36,620 and that was the Denton-195 project. 2041 01:44:36,620 --> 01:44:38,980 The applicant had requested that the item B 2042 01:44:38,980 --> 01:44:41,220 continued indefinitely and to allow them 2043 01:44:41,220 --> 01:44:43,820 to be able to make some additional refinements 2044 01:44:43,820 --> 01:44:45,220 to their application. 2045 01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:47,620 So at such point in time when that application 2046 01:44:47,620 --> 01:44:48,980 is ready to proceed to council, 2047 01:44:48,980 --> 01:44:51,700 staff will re-notice for that public hearing 2048 01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:53,740 and send out the required public notifications 2049 01:44:53,740 --> 01:44:56,180 to the various property owners and residents 2050 01:44:56,180 --> 01:44:58,220 at such point in time when that's ready to move forward. 2051 01:44:58,220 --> 01:44:59,940 And I do not have any date on that, 2052 01:44:59,940 --> 01:45:02,020 but otherwise that concludes my report. 2053 01:45:02,020 --> 01:45:02,860 So thank you. 2054 01:45:02,860 --> 01:45:04,900 - So question on that. 2055 01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:05,740 - Yes, ma'am. 2056 01:45:05,740 --> 01:45:07,540 - So if the developer is going back 2057 01:45:07,540 --> 01:45:09,660 and making changes on the 195 project, 2058 01:45:09,660 --> 01:45:13,380 will it go back to the PNC before it goes back 2059 01:45:13,380 --> 01:45:15,180 to the city council or does it just go straight 2060 01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:16,780 to the city council? 2061 01:45:16,780 --> 01:45:18,100 - So that depends. 2062 01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:20,620 Not knowing what changes of any they might make. 2063 01:45:20,620 --> 01:45:22,380 If they were significant changes, 2064 01:45:22,380 --> 01:45:24,500 then we would still take the item back to council, 2065 01:45:24,500 --> 01:45:25,780 but it could be that our recommendation 2066 01:45:25,780 --> 01:45:27,820 is that it's brought back to the commission. 2067 01:45:27,820 --> 01:45:29,660 Not wanting to get too off posting 2068 01:45:29,660 --> 01:45:32,460 before I get the eyebrows again, so. 2069 01:45:32,460 --> 01:45:36,980 But that's kind of the basic how that would roll. 2070 01:45:36,980 --> 01:45:38,700 But we don't know. 2071 01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:40,580 So we'll make that decision 2072 01:45:40,580 --> 01:45:42,700 once we receive more information. 2073 01:45:42,700 --> 01:45:44,300 It's a great question. 2074 01:45:44,300 --> 01:45:45,660 - Thank you. 2075 01:45:45,660 --> 01:45:46,540 Thank you for answering it, 2076 01:45:46,540 --> 01:45:48,700 not for the great question comment, 2077 01:45:48,700 --> 01:45:49,860 but thanks for that too. 2078 01:45:49,860 --> 01:45:50,700 - No problem. 2079 01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:55,420 So I know we have some new commissioners. 2080 01:45:55,420 --> 01:45:58,180 So just, we might not have talked about the matrix 2081 01:45:58,180 --> 01:46:00,380 in your commissioner training, so that's my fault. 2082 01:46:00,380 --> 01:46:02,620 But what we use this matrix for 2083 01:46:02,620 --> 01:46:05,900 is that if there are any particular special topics 2084 01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:08,700 that you would like staff to bring back to you 2085 01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:11,260 in the future so that we can have that discussion 2086 01:46:11,260 --> 01:46:13,020 or more posted for it, 2087 01:46:13,020 --> 01:46:15,700 this is the time to be able to make that request. 2088 01:46:15,700 --> 01:46:18,980 So you'll see on the matrix attachment 2089 01:46:18,980 --> 01:46:21,100 some requests that have been made in the past 2090 01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:23,620 that we have pending and we've noted 2091 01:46:23,620 --> 01:46:26,300 that we'll bring forth that at some future date. 2092 01:46:26,300 --> 01:46:27,780 So we've got a couple of items 2093 01:46:27,780 --> 01:46:29,700 that are on your matrix for now. 2094 01:46:29,700 --> 01:46:32,380 And then also we have our PNZ bootcamp presentations 2095 01:46:32,380 --> 01:46:33,780 that the staff has been doing 2096 01:46:33,780 --> 01:46:35,740 and we've been scheduling those as needed. 2097 01:46:35,740 --> 01:46:40,060 But again, if there is a particular request, 2098 01:46:40,060 --> 01:46:41,500 a special project that you're interested 2099 01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:42,740 in the staff working on, 2100 01:46:42,740 --> 01:46:45,700 this would be the appropriate time to make that request. 2101 01:46:45,700 --> 01:46:47,420 We will add it to our matrix 2102 01:46:47,420 --> 01:46:49,340 and note the commissioner who requested it, 2103 01:46:49,340 --> 01:46:50,500 the request date, 2104 01:46:50,500 --> 01:46:52,700 and then we will get it also programmed 2105 01:46:52,700 --> 01:46:53,980 into our work program. 2106 01:46:53,980 --> 01:47:02,460 - Okay, are there any other questions? 2107 01:47:02,460 --> 01:47:06,100 There is no action to take on this item. 2108 01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:07,780 - There's no action. 2109 01:47:07,780 --> 01:47:08,700 - Commissioner McDuff. 2110 01:47:08,700 --> 01:47:10,580 - So as an addition to the matrix, 2111 01:47:10,580 --> 01:47:13,380 I just have on my clipboard, 2112 01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:15,300 I'd like to talk a little bit more 2113 01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:19,300 about techniques of public engagement, 2114 01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:24,300 just so we would all know those methodologies. 2115 01:47:24,300 --> 01:47:32,260 So that's on my clipboard, number one. 2116 01:47:32,260 --> 01:47:34,460 - So when you say, 2117 01:47:34,460 --> 01:47:35,780 just to make sure I understand the request, 2118 01:47:35,780 --> 01:47:36,940 so I know what we bring back. 2119 01:47:36,940 --> 01:47:38,740 So when you talk about the techniques 2120 01:47:38,740 --> 01:47:40,740 of public engagement methodologies, 2121 01:47:40,740 --> 01:47:42,740 you're talking about public engagement 2122 01:47:42,740 --> 01:47:44,660 that we as staff do? 2123 01:47:44,660 --> 01:47:45,500 - Yes. 2124 01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:46,340 - Okay. 2125 01:47:46,340 --> 01:47:47,160 - Yes, ma'am. 2126 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,380 - We can add that to the matrix and bring that back. 2127 01:47:48,380 --> 01:47:49,500 - Thank you so much. 2128 01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:54,860 And that may be already part of our boot camp training, but. 2129 01:47:54,860 --> 01:47:58,020 - We'll double check, 2130 01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:00,260 but nonetheless, we'll make sure we get it added. 2131 01:48:00,260 --> 01:48:01,100 - Thank you, ma'am. 2132 01:48:06,980 --> 01:48:07,980 Any other requests? 2133 01:48:07,980 --> 01:48:11,140 Okay. 2134 01:48:11,140 --> 01:48:11,980 There are none. 2135 01:48:11,980 --> 01:48:12,940 Moving to item seven. 2136 01:48:12,940 --> 01:48:14,780 Are there any concluding items? 2137 01:48:14,780 --> 01:48:17,700 Okay. 2138 01:48:17,700 --> 01:48:18,540 There are none. 2139 01:48:18,540 --> 01:48:22,580 I am going to close this PNZ meeting at 722.