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 >> Okay, good morning everyone.

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 We're here with the City of Denning Mobility Committee.

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 It's Wednesday, March 26th, 2025, 10 AM.

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 We're in the council work session room.

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 We have determined that a quorum is present,

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 so we'll convene at this meeting at this time.

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 We're going to start with the first item,

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 citizens comments on the agenda items.

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 we're asking individuals are only able to comment on one time per agenda item.

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 Each speaker is to be given a total of three minutes.

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 I'm going to try to keep up with those minutes or unless somebody else wants to.

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 The chair will call your name and speak at the appropriate time and when addressing the committee.

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 Please step forward to the front of the room,

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 state your name, your address,

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 and direct your comments to the chair and the committee.

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 Items for individual consideration,

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 MC 25-010, consider approval of the minutes of February 26th, 2025.

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 >> I have considered them and I moved that they be approved to submit it.

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 >> Okay. Do we just do the speaker's words?

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 I thought they picked their item for the agenda,

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 what they wanted to speak on.

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 So we're going to go back?

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 >> Yes. So the citizen comments all happen at the same time on this agenda at the beginning of the meeting.

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 >> Okay. So this is even though it's something else.

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 Okay. So our first person that we're going to have come up,

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 Ms. Jane Piperlott, please come to the front.

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 Hello, Ms. Jane. I haven't seen you in a while.

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 >> Yeah, I know. We got a check.

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 >> And you too, you are hard to get hold of.

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 >> All right. I'm hard to get hold of?

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 >> Joe is.

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 I'm Jane Piperlott.

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 I live at 1407 North Austin.

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 I am here today to address item D, exhibit five.

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 I have a long history with this property, almost nine years.

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 The history of that property, which is across from the service center,

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 I had always been told it was bond election money,

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 but was corrected on that, so I don't know what's true.

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 But that property was in a bond issue at one time for

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 an expansion of the service center on that side of the road.

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 And because of that, they wanted to build a road up and

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 around the back of the building that would be there, so

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 that they wouldn't be going down McKinney to bother people.

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 And it would go to Mingo.

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 For some reason, they never had enough money to build the service center, so they scrapped the idea of the road.

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 Now, they've used that road for several excuses.

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 This time, it's because of the quiet zone.

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 But there are ways that are much cheaper to create a quiet zone

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 without having to close Willis and Pertain.

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 Which, if you close Pertain, you're going to lock people into that neighborhood.

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 Their only way out is going to be out McKinney.

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 But anyways, so that property has always kind of been,

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 well, we want a road there, but we're not doing it, and they've always had all these excuses.

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 It's a beautiful piece of property.

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 It does not need to be destroyed.

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 We've destroyed enough trees and enough property.

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 This got approved by the voters by deception.

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 This is the League of Women Voters guide for that bond proposal.

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 That proposal was labeled streets.

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 It says the issuance of $45 million for streets, levying a tax and

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 payment thereof, proposal A allocates funding for designing, acquiring, constructing,

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 renovating, improving, extending, upgrading, updating, and equipping city streets.

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 Bridges, multimodal sidewalks, improvement as well as related incidental

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 improvements, and the purchase of land, easement, right of way, and other properties of interest.

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 Mingo Road from Bell Avenue to Mockingbird.

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 Roodale Street from 380 to Mingo.

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 Railroad Quiet Zone from Mockingbird Lane to Frame Street.

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 Nowhere in that bond proposal does it say anything about this road being built through that.

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 Nowhere on the city websites was there anything.

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 The only reference was the, it said road alignment.

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 And it said C Mobility 2040.

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 >> Okay, Ms. Piperlunt?

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 >> I know exactly where you're talking about, but your time has expired.

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 So we appreciate everything you've just told us and I've certainly written my notes down.

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 I'm asking you to delay this until an investigation is done on this.

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 All right, our next speaker is Ms. Lauren Penn, P-E-N-N, Lauren Penn.

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 >> Hello, my name is Lauren Penn.

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 I live at 2308 Georgetown Drive in Denton in the North Lakes neighborhood.

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 I was here a month ago.

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 Since then, I wanted to give you guys an update on our neighborhood.

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 I was able to host a community walking audit.

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 We also just call it a walking tour, it's a great opportunity for our neighbors to get together.

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 had several council members there as well as council candidates.

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 item C, the speed management and traffic calming action plan.

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 As we gathered and got to hang out, we noticed that we shared a desire to make our streets more walkable.

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 Our neighborhood wants to walk more.

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 >> Madam Chair, I know we can't ask questions back and forth because it's unprogrammed comments.

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 >> So we will go to B, MC, we didn't do the butchering, A, MC 25-010, consider approval of the minutes of February.

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 >> I made a motion.

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 >> Are there any questions?

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 B, MC 25-011, receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the proposed FY 2025 Transportation Reinvestment Program trip funding application.

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 >> Good morning, Greg Scott, Transportation Services, and I'll start this presentation.

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 And it will be continued by Capital Projects.

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 So as you're probably aware, DCTA provides a portion of their revenues to us each year.

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 Based on projects that are mutually beneficial and within a quarter mile of existing transit.

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 Staff has identified three projects for 2025 funding.

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 I'm going to focus a little bit on that before we go on because it won't be detailed later.

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 But this adjustment costs zero dollars.

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 It is to make sure that we include planning in this project.

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 This kind of explains some shift in a project that brought intermodal improvements to the downtown square.

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 We came in under budget.

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 Project one is, or A, is Colorado Boulevard multimodal

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 improvements between loop 288 and the A train line.

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 These are all subject to planning, and we will engage the public in these.

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 Sorry, I jumped over it.

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 fairy, and fry, as shown in the dashed area.

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 >> Hey, good morning board members, Seth Garcia, Interim Director of Capital Projects.

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 crossings, are those projects now fully funded, or are we still a little short?

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 >> So we're funded to what our OPCC is, which is our opinion of probable

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 construction cost.

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 So essentially, we're fully funded through design.

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 We have an idea from the railroad what the railroad agreement's going to be.

241
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 Once we actually bid for construction, we'll know the final number.

242
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 But to what our design engineer is saying the cost is right now, this will fund us.

243
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 >> Okay, and so y'all have them prioritized.

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 If it turns out we don't have enough for all of them,

245
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 you have a prioritized list, I assume, of which ones we'll target first.

246
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 >> So it is a Quiet Zone project, so we have to do all of it.

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 So it can't be in a small piece, so we would look, come back, work with finance,

248
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 come back to council, look for additional funding to make sure we could do it all.

249
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 >> Okay, so it's sort of all or nothing for this particular project.

250
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 >> Correct, yeah, and then again, this is a, sorry,

251
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 this was a continuation into the Mingo Quiet Zones as well.

252
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 So this will make that whole corridor.

253
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 So for prioritizing that to the north,

254
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 we can't leave this spot down here in the south as a gap.

255
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 >> Right, I'd like to interject.

256
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 Since we're on that topic, I think it would just, would it be appropriate if you all,

257
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 if anybody else have an opinion on that topic, I don't want to stop your flow.

258
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 >> Okay, just come back to me at the end.

259
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 I am, I will start with you again and we'll just see what's going on here.

260
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 Go ahead.

261
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 >> Okay, so since you have that up on the slide,

262
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 I guess maybe I'm just a little confused.

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 The trip funds are being, I mean,

264
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 I know we have an aggregate project with aggregate funding as you just described.

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 >> Correct.

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 >> But are we suggesting that street repair,

267
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 I mean, I know money is fungible and the whole project and you can move it from one pocket to another.

268
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 But are we allocating trip funds to street repair?

269
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 >> Yes and no. So essentially it goes into the bucket to fund the full projects.

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 A lot of the funding that's requested will go towards the sidewalk improvements,

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 the rail improvements, and then we'll have other funding sources

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 associated with the project that will cover the majority of the street infrastructure.

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 Sidewalks are considered part of the street infrastructure.

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 So that's why it's kind of grouped in that funding category.

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 >> That's an interesting question.

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 >> Yeah. The only reason I asked that question

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 is generally the trip funding is to facilitate transit options.

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 That's why we have the requirements of distance and access and density,

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 and all the other requirements that you did a good job mentioning.

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 So I want to be mindful that we're not piggy banking it as a way of doing

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 street repair that should be put on M&O or bonds

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 or another appropriate vehicle for street repair when we're trying to facilitate transit.

283
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 It's just, this is me not really resisting,

284
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 but asking us to be mindful when we're pooling money together as a project.

285
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 >> No, thank you for that. Yeah.

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 Part of the reason the sidewalk infrastructure is a little bit inflated on this is because the rail crossings.

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 So when we do rail crossings, you're increasing track panels.

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 Track panels have to be extended four feet past the sidewalk.

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 So you add a lot of incurred cost to put in the 10-foot trail or the 8-foot sidewalk that go into the rail infrastructure that inflates that number.

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 And so again, for the small sections of sidewalk that we're looking to implement,

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 the cost per linear foot is higher just because it's at the rail.

292
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 >> Okay, thank you. That's all for me, Chair.

293
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 And that answer was very appropriate because I had that on my mind as well.

294
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 It sounded like we were moving into street repair.

295
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 >> Yeah, understood.

296
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 >> But keeping in mind that we are just talking about transportation and walking is part of transportation and biking on those, it's part of the transportation.

297
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 >> Yes, ma'am.

298
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 >> Yes, ma'am. Oh, did you have great?

299
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 Yes, ma'am.

300
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 >> All right, so going back, or up one more side, yes.

301
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 Thank you all for including planning and finding a way to do that because I know, you know, it's going through a neighborhood.

302
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 So it's really good to work with the neighbors on this project.

303
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 And kudos for whoever had the idea to do tactical urbanism for this project.

304
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,360
 Thank you.

305
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:10,920
 So what I like about tactical urbanism for this specific project is what's cool about it is we put something in, we see how it works.

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 We ask for feedback from the residents.

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 Is this working? What's working? What's not?

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 We adjust it a little bit and we can keep adjusting it until we're happy with, until the neighbors are happy with the design.

309
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 And then we can maybe circle back at some point and do the more expensive permanent stuff.

310
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 So I appreciate us using a tactical urbanism approach for this one because that's a great way to not just be like, okay, here it is, we're done.

311
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 Oops, something didn't work.

312
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,200
 Right. So it's just like, let's try this.

313
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 Oh, that doesn't work. Let's adjust it.

314
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 Right. So I want to thank you all for doing that.

315
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 That's all I have on that one.

316
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 That is great. This is a long time coming for those folks in their neighborhood.

317
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 So I'm very excited for them on this project.

318
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 Yes, sir.

319
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,720
 So on this one, it was it was a little unclear to me.

320
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 Can you put a little color or detail on the the the lane separation concept that we're thinking about since some of it is sidewalks and some of it is in street?

321
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,360
 And I would just could you add a little color to that?

322
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 Yeah, I'll let Greg go into that.

323
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,560
 Let's see if this answers your question.

324
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 It's on street trail is what was as advertised.

325
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 Now, we will go.

326
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 The purpose of the public involvement is to flesh that out right to add the color through the public involvement.

327
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:43,640
 Oh, so so do we have a starting point where like typically in the past, we've used the four inch bollards like on on Congress, like on Old North.

328
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 Some of them we have the little two inch by one centimeter.

329
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 I'm mixing units there.

330
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 Whatever the the the little flat ones, the yellow ones, we've used some of those in various locations.

331
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 I just was curious what our default lane separation concept was to take to the tactical urbanism.

332
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,240
 We're not going to start at zero.

333
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 Are we solicit ideas or we're going to bring them something and for that, right?

334
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:14,760
 If you're if you're speaking to bollard style, yeah, we are starting at zero.

335
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 I mean, I what goes into the cost has been the what you see on Congress.

336
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 OK, but that does not preclude anything else.

337
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:31,360
 And that's a that's something that is very flexible to public engagement.

338
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 So the little armadillo humps or the or the concrete separators, that's all on the table.

339
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:40,200
 Yeah. OK, cool. I appreciate that. Thank you.

340
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 I really appreciate the fact that you're taking it to the to the community at zero and ask them to help you decide what to start with or what they think.

341
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 So I think that's that's what their their process is. Thank you.

342
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 Anybody else? I do. Oh, I'm sorry.

343
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:07,400
 Hold on. You skipped you. Yeah.

344
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,720
 Did you want to say something to this? OK, just some clarification.

345
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 Slide six. The street that connects is going back to something else.

346
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 We were trying to finish. I beg your pardon.

347
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,080
 Did you want to say something else? OK, now we're doing.

348
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:30,400
 Did you want to say anything on six? What is where we think we're done with it?

349
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:42,040
 OK, you can go ahead. OK. Sorry, I don't want to be the street that connects Avenue A with Fry Street.

350
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 Ferry, I swear in the world, did that come from probably Google Maps?

351
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 Are you certain that that's correct? No, I am not certain that that's correct.

352
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:02,440
 And I used to own a business at 119 Avenue A.

353
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:08,400
 I've never heard of Ferry Street. OK, would you see if that's correct?

354
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:16,000
 Sure. I can also just take it off.

355
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:27,640
 My yellow page ad said that it was across the street from the unit or the unit language building, the UNT language building.

356
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:39,720
 But the yellow page ad said unit language building. And it also had my address is 119 Avia, A-V-E-A.

357
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,840
 I didn't have to pay for that ad. Thank you for your consideration.

358
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:50,360
 Oh, was that all you had? That's all I got.

359
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:58,400
 OK, back down there. So, KD Trail. I don't remember which slide that was.

360
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,960
 KD Trail. That one. Yeah, I mean, I don't think I have a question.

361
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:13,680
 Just wanted to say thank you all for addressing that, because I think previously I had asked if the crossing across the railroad was going to remain open for Bike Ped.

362
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 And the initial answer was yes. And I shared that out to people who had asked me.

363
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:26,440
 And then I heard that that got changed. So I'm glad that we have a work around now so that people can use the trail to get to Colorado slash Mayhill and go both directions.

364
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,920
 So I really appreciate that connectivity. And I guess that's all I had for that one. So thank you.

365
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,160
 All right. Anybody else on that one? Yes.

366
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,880
 Yeah, I guess. And I think Susie would know more about this project than I do.

367
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:49,840
 But just seeing that kind of initial number of two point five million, I guess I have some concern about that because, you know, I can look at projects in the next batch.

368
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,720
 And it's the most expensive one is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for these, you know, cheap things.

369
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,880
 And we've been talking about wanting to do more of these cheap quick interventions.

370
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:05,160
 So I haven't looked deeply into this particular project. So if this is particularly essential, then I understand that.

371
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:11,280
 But looking at the relative cost, like 10 of the next project versus one of this, I have some concern over that.

372
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,840
 Yeah, absolutely. And again, part of the reason is that large drainage floodplain area.

373
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:23,960
 So, again, we're putting in a pedestrian bridge that's going to require structural engineering, again, just more of the design costs.

374
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:30,840
 We're also going to have to get one easement from the property owner here on this kind of triangle pizza shaped on the corner here.

375
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:38,640
 So that is impacting. Ultimately, with the CTA, the goal was take away the the crossing completely.

376
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:45,240
 So by doing this, we're able to put it on the north side for folks that want to continue along the Cady Trail and then on the south side,

377
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:56,640
 also provide them the opportunity to get back to Mayhill or make a big loop and get around to the to that north side again to continue on the trail.

378
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,560
 Anybody else on this one on the next one, you know, either with this great or you're done.

379
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,680
 I have one more. OK, one more. I have a question on Colorado Boulevard.

380
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:15,280
 All right. We can pull that slide back up.

381
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,600
 I forgot what slide that was. Yes, thank you.

382
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:27,720
 So on the when we say bike lanes, are we talking on street or are we just saying there will be some sort of bike accommodation?

383
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:40,360
 We don't know what yet. Both because we put in the costs on street with some protection.

384
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,800
 But it is also subject to public involvement.

385
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:51,080
 But the starting point, the starting thought prior to input is like maybe on street. Yes. All right.

386
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,320
 That's all. I was just wanting clarification. Thank you.

387
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,360
 I'm going to go. I'm just really happy that this project is coming along.

388
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:08,280
 Do I understand that there's sidewalk? We're going to try to have sidewalks on both sides or just one side.

389
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:15,360
 How does something like that work? It won't be complete on the north side, but it will be complete on the south side.

390
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,720
 OK, complete and accessible. All right.

391
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:35,480
 And I now understand that a portion of that is county property where the right road breaker where brinker is coming off Colorado and Brinker.

392
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,360
 We have that Sally Beauty supply and a portion of that is county.

393
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,640
 Now, are you all collaborating with the county to pay for that particular portion?

394
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:56,680
 Because I know that over in that area before you get to the doctorate, that area doesn't have sidewalk there.

395
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,520
 And so we definitely want to, you know, is that how that works?

396
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:06,120
 Collaborating with the county so they can pay for that particular portion of the sidewalk.

397
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:32,560
 Yes. Yes. OK, great. All right. That's what I was concerned about. But other than that, you know, this is a long time coming to. So we're glad to see that that's coming. Anybody else on this one? Yes, you did. Not on this one. I had earlier. OK. And Christine, you're good. You know, I want to see if you're.

398
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:40,360
 Oh, yeah. OK. Would it be possible to potentially to potentially expand the scope on this one?

399
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:55,120
 Just a little bit to incorporate a connection to the A train station there, just like a little jut out off of this, because I think, you know, if I were if I were heading north on the Cady Trail and I wanted to go on Colorado, I would I would have that easy swing.

400
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:10,200
 But if I were headed south on the Cady Trail, I would probably cut through the A train station to access Colorado Boulevard and also just provide access for folks going to and from like Medical City, that sort of thing.

401
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:18,960
 Yes, we can look into that. It also could be a project, a city project.

402
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:25,920
 OK. So did you have anything else to come this way? Do you have anything?

403
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,400
 All right, I'm good. And you can you go back to the budgeting slides that were at the beginning?

404
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:40,880
 I love that we went backwards. I think it was super cool to stop on the I had a couple of questions on this in a real light sense.

405
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:52,720
 How did we get to the savings? I mean, yay. I love savings. A big heart. But but how did how did we get there? What did we do to save half a million dollars?

406
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,120
 Yeah, great question. So the original number was put together by our engineer.

407
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,920
 We were able to utilize a internal city contract to build that with Floyd Smith.

408
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:13,240
 That's our annual city contract. So, again, they were able to perform all the services that we needed for the hallway crossing using their contractual unit prices provided a massive savings.

409
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:22,840
 Again, with small quantities, small scope projects, you typically get deemed on mobilization and other things that cause contractors to come and do the work.

410
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,440
 Those costs were negated by the city contract using them because they're already working for us.

411
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,920
 So that provide a pretty significant savings on that, which has allowed us to reallocate that funding.

412
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:46,800
 Perfect. And for the overall budgeting, and I'm not sure it's probably you, but and I want to be mindful not to drift too off posting.

413
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:58,400
 But are any of the trip funds endangered or encumbered in the discussions of regional mergers and reallocation of budgets?

414
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,600
 I know the not the past of the twenty two, the twenty three that's encumbered.

415
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,360
 They're not going to be able to adjust that. But the twenty five is more what I'm thinking of.

416
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,120
 Yeah, nothing that I'm aware of. I don't know of anything right now.

417
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:26,560
 OK, I'll hop on here from my attendance at the DCTA annual long midterm, long term planning retreat.

418
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,880
 I forget which one it was this time, but the NCT Cog Rep kind of tossed that out.

419
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,920
 There is like I have this crazy idea. I don't know that that's sort of an imminent plan.

420
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,600
 I think that's more of a like long term visioning, long term aspirational.

421
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:50,760
 All right. All right. Good. I mean, good in the sense that it doesn't affect this discussion.

422
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:58,640
 Thank you. Yes. OK, just one last comment.

423
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:04,640
 For the last two years, I've pitched the idea that we should use trip funding for purchasing bus routes.

424
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:11,200
 It doesn't seem like there's appetite for that. So I'd like to scale back just for consideration for next year's trip funding.

425
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,360
 Could we use it for future network planning?

426
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:22,000
 Could we could we take a hundred, two hundred thousand dollars and consider using that for putting together a plan?

427
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,080
 This is what the city wants to see for our bus service from DCTA so that we can use that to advocate and plan for the future.

428
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:39,680
 Thank you. Who would be working on that particular subject with what area of transportation?

429
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:48,080
 Is that yours? Can you respond to that?

430
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,000
 Good morning. Farhan Butt, Deputy Director of Transportation Services Division.

431
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,680
 This ties to DCTA's strategic plan and we are already coordinating with them on some of those efforts.

432
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,840
 And so there is there is some limitation on what can go into their planning.

433
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,760
 But we are working diligently with them to make sure that city's interests are looked into.

434
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:22,440
 So when it comes to these kind of projects, we will take into account and make a prioritized list and provide them while they are planning for their new new networks or new routes.

435
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,440
 Can we get a summary of some sort of where you all are in that particular process?

436
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:37,440
 I mean, like, I don't know when you would like soon just give us an idea of when you say, well, we're working diligently with them.

437
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:45,360
 What does that mean for us? So the process goes like when the planning starts, we will we'll circle back with more information on that.

438
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,520
 But we went through the process is that we are participating in that meeting.

439
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,240
 For example, this DCTA strategic planning meeting, we were part of that.

440
00:37:53,240 --> 00:38:07,520
 I recently requested for that those presentations, so we will look into those strategic planning efforts and then kind of, you know, try to merge our prioritization and then discuss with them.

441
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,600
 OK, we'll look back for the hearing from you.

442
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:18,240
 Yes, sir. I guess we've been working together too long because that was one of my exact questions.

443
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:23,760
 As part of that, I'll just take off right from there as part of that.

444
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,640
 Can I would love to see our recommendations from from you, Dr.

445
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:37,960
 Butte, and as well as the sort of timeline and what what got kept and negotiated away.

446
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:48,200
 And the reason I'll put some context into that is you're focused on the needs of Denton and DCTA is focused on the needs writ large for the whole transportation.

447
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:59,880
 That they cover. And I would like to see that that engagement and interaction and how it changes overall and what the given takes are,

448
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:05,600
 because we don't control them, but, you know, we influence policy that affects you.

449
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,320
 So, you know, I'd be real curious about those sort of details.

450
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:20,880
 But sure, we will provide that information. Also, we have to keep in mind that we do have a representative there that I literally haven't seen in two years.

451
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,720
 Highly concerned about that. Don't know if they're making it to the meeting.

452
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:31,480
 We haven't had an update. And now you're bringing this to us.

453
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,520
 So I'd like to at least hear from our and you attend some, you attend the meeting.

454
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,760
 And I'd like to hear from at least our representative sometime every quarter.

455
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:49,120
 I don't know. But we got to hear from them. They Allison McGuire and in two years.

456
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:58,560
 Well, I haven't heard her spoke speak. We've had DCTA in our presence, but I have not heard from Alice.

457
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:05,320
 And I like to hear from Alice as the chair of this. That's what I'm going to be looking forward to.

458
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,760
 Thank you. Anybody else? All right. Thank you. Thanks.

459
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:24,720
 OK, so we're going to go ahead and move on to the next item CMC to five zero one to receive a report and hold a discussion regarding a speed management and traffic calming action plan.

460
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:35,440
 30 minutes. Good morning, Scott.

461
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,880
 Transportation services. And this is the second part of traffic calming.

462
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:48,880
 And in the as to the connection to the city's goals and strategies,

463
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:56,240
 it certainly hits the highest of the highest priority is human life over all road decisions.

464
00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:08,200
 And you'll see how this actually also falls into low stress bike ped facilities for all ages and abilities.

465
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:18,640
 We'll go through a quick implementation plan, some opportunities midterm and discuss some economic benefits.

466
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:27,960
 So the process of coming to this quick implementation plan was to glean from various sources,

467
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:46,400
 including traffic police here, past and present traffic engineers, a speed study that was done in 2022 and other sources to identify some kind of larger potential projects.

468
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:55,080
 They were prioritized based on our first assessment of community support construct ability.

469
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:07,760
 And we wanted to coordinate with projects that were already on on a program for the area came down to.

470
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:23,840
 In the map there, you can see eight projects that came out of that process, three of which you will see today with their with their concepts.

471
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:43,120
 After this, we'll be looking at doing a speed study on these three to make sure there is an issue in the first place to establish a baseline so that we can see as we improve these areas,

472
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:53,640
 how we move the needle and understand how the community feels about it now and afterwards.

473
00:42:53,640 --> 00:43:04,720
 Use, again, quick build or tactical urbanism and measure afterwards.

474
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:20,000
 So the toolbox we have at our use basically falls into narrowing, into circles and medians and slowing turns.

475
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:35,120
 You will see going as I go into this as we go into this ball bounce function are a major portion of this.

476
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,920
 Here's a little video.

477
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:49,280
 Good morning, everybody. I'm Alexis Pickering and today's word on the street is ball bounce ball bounce are an essential part of traffic calming.

478
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:56,920
 And they're a really great land use design that essentially pinches traffic to make everybody safer.

479
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:06,760
 And so what that actually does is it actually decreases the length that pedestrians and bicyclists have to cross into an intersection.

480
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,800
 So it makes them safer because they don't have to cross as much traffic.

481
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:20,040
 It also is an added bonus, it makes pedestrians and bicyclists more in the line of sight of drivers, so they're easier to spot.

482
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,160
 It also gives the sense of moving and actually gets them to go slower.

483
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,640
 So not only are they seeing them sooner, but they're slowing down to let them cross.

484
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,240
 So it protects drivers just as much as it does pedestrians.

485
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,720
 So everybody is using the same intersection safely.

486
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,240
 Oh, no, no.

487
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:53,240
 She apologizes.

488
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:56,840
 There we go.

489
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920
 Yeah, no, I think we should let this play.

490
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:25,240
 Okay, so these ball belts can also be with a different configurations, can do different things or to different degrees.

491
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:41,840
 So we've called this situation where their two cars can pass side by side and narrow spot one because there's a narrow spot to which still allows two cars to pass.

492
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,840
 But through striping, it visually narrows it even further.

493
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:53,400
 But the actual the actual width is still the same.

494
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,440
 Okay, you can stagger them.

495
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:06,680
 So you could create a chain in a very neighborhood situation.

496
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:14,320
 You may have a courtesy spot which says only one car can pass at a time.

497
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:24,720
 And the the last that I'm highlighting is that a bulb out that goes to the center line of the street.

498
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:33,680
 So it is designed to limit through traffic where cut throughs may exist.

499
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,680
 So the car can only come through in one direction.

500
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:44,040
 Mind you, this is only for the segment adjacent to the bulb out.

501
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,000
 It does not make the entire street one way.

502
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:55,880
 OK, so we're going through the corridor, the three corridors that are priorities.

503
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,800
 One is Boulevard corridor.

504
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:28,520
 The concept is to create a relaxing all ages, all abilities biking and ped facility on Boulevard by first slowing traffic and then limiting traffic specifically from downtown to university, limiting that cut through traffic.

505
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:49,600
 And in this concept, which is also subject to public involvement, I've shown to bulb out side by side that with signage, maybe welcoming people to the community.

506
00:47:49,600 --> 00:48:02,920
 First, just and then after the businesses and such, when you get into the residential area, a half street closure.

507
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:22,600
 At those locations and so the blue circles represent the neighborhood gateway and the red ones represent the half street closure.

508
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:38,080
 Sycamore, it uses the gateway concept again that just slows traffic and signals to the drivers that this is a community.

509
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:49,560
 And ped refuges, which are basically short medians that allows more comfortable crossing of the road and also slows traffic.

510
00:48:49,560 --> 00:49:19,200
 I've also shown a median here on Bell Street and industrial to limit traffic at that point so that you don't have people stopping and turning trying to turn left on Bell, cutting up through the neighborhood to get to to Sycamore.

511
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:36,880
 And then Fry Street again, I think what I need to emphasize, we need to emphasize on this is this is a bigger area than the Fry Street that we showed in the trip presentation.

512
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,920
 And the intent is to slow traffic before you get to Fry Street.

513
00:49:41,920 --> 00:50:00,600
 So it's a wider area, its treatments will be more diverse, we'll be looking at with the public, with the community, what can go there.

514
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:13,240
 Next kind of midterm opportunities is we in the next few years will be redoing the mobility plan.

515
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:28,080
 And we can we can target some objectives when we do that, increase the plan sensitivity, context sensitivity, whether a roads in a neighborhood or not.

516
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:51,040
 As the use speeds as a metric when doing this, so if we have a really long wide road and we're not targeting, that's not a speed we want to encourage then that would be a way to look at system wide what speeds we might be encouraging.

517
00:50:51,040 --> 00:51:03,920
 And then widen the flexibility in the types of roads and one way that's done is shown in the lower right corner, it's called street typologies.

518
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:18,800
 It is both functional class, which is used now, plus the area context or different characteristics that we think should also be reflected in the road design.

519
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:25,280
 And that becomes the street typology, the closest community that does this is South Lake.

520
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:32,360
 Another opportunity is the transportation criteria manual.

521
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:40,600
 We're doing a bit of massaging to that right now and eventually in a few years we'll be taking a fresh look at it.

522
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:49,220
 And some of the opportunities or objectives we could have there is to make

523
00:51:49,220 --> 00:51:59,160
 the bike pad and ADA portions of it as clear as much of the road sections are clear.

524
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:07,920
 Again, widen the possibilities for treatments.

525
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,440
 And also this is a possibility and

526
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:22,160
 that is often communities have very strict standards and they have very aspirational goals.

527
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:30,720
 But a way to approach that that we could use is a checklist of considerations, right?

528
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:40,240
 To marry that strictness, right, that not quite strict, but not quite aspirational, but to formalize it.

529
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:50,720
 Lastly, vision zero and complete streets are also opportunities.

530
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:58,240
 We have direction to use a complete streets

531
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:07,080
 framework, but we also could,

532
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:13,600
 if we choose as a city to adopt a formal policy for

533
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:20,280
 that and complete streets will just aid in this effort.

534
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:29,920
 Because we were asked for the economic benefits, we were able to identify as you're aware,

535
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,120
 there are societal benefits across the board, but also there are in fact

536
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,360
 potential city budget benefits,

537
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:51,680
 because actual enforcement with people has high operating costs.

538
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,960
 Whereas if you make the initial investments in traffic calming and we know that it will work,

539
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:04,920
 then those investments are relatively low.

540
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,080
 And that is it for my presentation, our presentation.

541
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:21,000
 >> I will start by saying that I'm on the zero vision committee.

542
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,400
 >> Mm-hm.

543
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:29,120
 >> And that was going to be my inquiry as to how connected you all are,

544
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:35,480
 which is all the same people, to that process as we're looking to

545
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,960
 reduce our fatality rates here in the city.

546
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:47,960
 So I'd like to hear from Dr. Budson, have him to kind of explain to us what the vision zero is all about.

547
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,920
 >> Dr. Han Butt, Deputy Director of Transportation Services.

548
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,560
 For the vision zero process, we are as part of the phase two,

549
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,160
 we are in the implementation planning stage, where we will identify some of the corridors,

550
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,800
 some of the elements that we will use to reduce fatalities and

551
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,840
 see disencapacitating injuries on denton streets.

552
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,920
 As part of that process, once these projects are identified or corridors or elements,

553
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,600
 traffic calming would become part of that process as well.

554
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:27,720
 So they will be integrated, they will be embedded wherever the processes are needed.

555
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:29,240
 They can talk to each other.

556
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:32,200
 >> All right, thank you very much, appreciate it.

557
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,680
 We just had a recent meeting with vision zero.

558
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,760
 So do you want to get started, Dr.?

559
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,200
 >> How do you want to do this, Chair?

560
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,160
 Do you want to- >> Well, let's go ahead, you already had your hand up.

561
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:46,920
 >> I'll start with you.

562
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:54,600
 >> So then, let me lead with, I love the advanced planning and all that.

563
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160
 I think it's fabulous.

564
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,320
 I'm really super stoked that we're moving in this direction.

565
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,360
 I love the engineering approaches because they enforce things in ways that

566
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,880
 education outreach and training just don't.

567
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:18,640
 But having said that, getting people aware of the changes, EOT will be critical.

568
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,080
 And so I encourage you to be very proactive.

569
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:31,360
 Because sometimes folks will say things, well, I don't want a thing.

570
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,440
 They'll have a knee-jerk response to it until it's explained to them and

571
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,080
 the benefits and the costs associated, and then they live with a pilot project.

572
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,680
 And then they're like, yeah, I was afraid for nothing.

573
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,040
 And then they love it and we spread it over the rest of the city.

574
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,640
 So I'm going to encourage those kinds of pilot projects to really help people

575
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,080
 understand what they're engaging with.

576
00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:07,120
 I did, on slide three, the process and short list, I'd be really interested in

577
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:14,040
 seeing some of the data that led you to get to these seven and what specific metrics.

578
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,760
 I'm not asking for it here, we don't have enough time.

579
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,640
 But I'd be really interested if you could share with the committee at some point,

580
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,600
 what led you to these seven and then what led you to prior to these three.

581
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:34,200
 So that's just my general question, could we get a gander at the data?

582
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,280
 I know there's at least three people that are here on the board that love to re-analyze

583
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,880
 the data and then take it back out into the public.

584
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,200
 So we will help with the EOT, I'm volunteering to my fellow board members.

585
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,800
 >> He's not talking about me, but- >> [LAUGH]

586
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,080
 >> I will make a comment.

587
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:58,240
 I would be interested to know when we get there in years to come.

588
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,520
 Not because we're focusing on one, two, and three.

589
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:06,200
 In years to come when we get to seven, there will be special characteristics for

590
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,880
 historic districts that I will just be really interested in how we

591
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,560
 incorporate the historicity into the planning.

592
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,240
 I can say words.

593
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,480
 >> We're going to make them gravel roads.

594
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,680
 >> All right, so do you want to- >> Okay, so, but this is interesting though,

595
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,560
 because now we're on a slide.

596
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,400
 Does anyone have any questions or anything in regards to this particular slide?

597
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,600
 I do want to say something in this regard.

598
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:43,200
 I think that they may have picked these areas

599
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,520
 because of the high, it looks like that Bolivar,

600
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:57,360
 I traveled down that road and it could be a very contagious road with all the cars.

601
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,440
 Park there in some, you can't park on some side.

602
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,720
 There's all kinds of stuff going on on that road.

603
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:06,840
 But that's from what I'm gathering and just looking at the ones.

604
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,560
 It could have been any road because I'm thinking about some other roads that I

605
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,840
 would prefer you go, but if you all have deemed these the ones that we just kind of

606
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,880
 need to work on first, then I'm okay with that.

607
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,840
 You're not fighting that?

608
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:22,880
 Anybody else fighting that?

609
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:23,880
 Anybody else fighting that?

610
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,840
 Okay, so any other questions on this slide?

611
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,720
 Yes.

612
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,240
 >> Yeah, I just wanted to say, obviously, I have my favorites.

613
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,960
 I have the roads that I rely on and travel on a lot by bike.

614
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,640
 This is not the roads that I would have picked, but

615
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,720
 that's why I'm glad you're going through the data and

616
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,200
 really taking a hard analytical approach to this, so appreciate that.

617
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,960
 >> Okay, all right, so did you have anything else?

618
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,120
 >> Slide five.

619
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,360
 >> All right, let's go to slide five.

620
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:58,160
 >> So on the ball of our corridor, and it's good because we can segue from chairs

621
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,640
 comments, I'm excited about the concept for

622
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:07,600
 the northern changes and how they'll impact.

623
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,960
 And I know that most of the impacts

624
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,560
 are going to be in the segment in between the two changes.

625
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:26,040
 Do we anticipate though any improvements along the major university arterial or not?

626
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,160
 >> No, that was not included in the cost.

627
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,400
 >> And not in building them there, I think I understood that.

628
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:39,840
 But do you think by having less drive through, less flow, or safer flow,

629
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,240
 that there will be some sort of knock on effects on university or not?

630
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,000
 >> By definition, if there's less cut through traffic, yeah.

631
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,880
 >> Okay, that's all I have on this one.

632
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,400
 >> All right, anybody else?

633
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,280
 Yes, Suzy?

634
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,280
 >> So I do use this road a lot and I've talked to folks who live on Bolivar and

635
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,480
 I know a lot of cut through traffic does fly down this street fairly often.

636
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,640
 And out of any street in the entire city of Denton,

637
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,480
 this seems like one of the most obvious to try out some of these Greenway

638
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,800
 Bike Boulevard type of stuff.

639
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,160
 What I like about this type of thing is that you don't have to put in a bike lane

640
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,520
 and you're not taking away a bunch of parking.

641
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:25,080
 You're just changing sort of the situation of the road so that car and

642
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,880
 bike traffic can share more safely and with less conflict.

643
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,400
 I guess I would definitely encourage on the one way idea of only letting traffic

644
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,000
 go one way that if the neighborhood is okay with trying that out, right?

645
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,960
 As a pilot project that we definitely use very temporary measures for that.

646
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,080
 What I picture is people just going the wrong way anyway, right?

647
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,660
 Cuz they do it on our one way streets.

648
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:54,600
 But if the neighbors are open to just trying it out as a pilot and

649
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,680
 just seeing how it goes, I would like to see us try it and

650
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,040
 see if it works and see if I'm wrong for sure.

651
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,240
 But I'm very excited about this project specifically and

652
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,360
 working with the neighbors to figure out.

653
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,000
 I mean, I'm sure they'd love to have less traffic on their street.

654
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,400
 And there's Carol right next to it, so that's all I have.

655
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:19,160
 >> All right, yes?

656
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,680
 >> Yeah, just a few remarks.

657
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,080
 Number one, not much of anything, but if you're gonna do similar maps in the future

658
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,560
 where it's not north that's up, if I could just, not this map, but

659
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,440
 the two other maps kinda threw me for a minute.

660
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,920
 If I could just get a north arrow on those in the future.

661
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,920
 >> It's a direction left.

662
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,120
 >> I would appreciate that.

663
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:39,640
 >> Okay.

664
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,600
 >> But yeah, I really like this, it's very efficient, it's very cost effective.

665
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,680
 Like I said earlier, we could do ten plus of these for

666
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,400
 the cost of that one DCTA A train trail project.

667
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,000
 And we do have a lot of streets where they're neighborhood streets,

668
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,440
 they are connective, but they're very underutilized just cuz there's a Carol or

669
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,080
 there's a 380 kind of running right next to them.

670
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,840
 And I think obviously folks don't want a lot of speeding car traffic on their

671
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,640
 streets, but if we can get more foot or bike traffic on there and

672
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,240
 get more use out of these very expensive assets that the city has, I think that's great.

673
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:22,280
 And then my final comment here would be Austin passed a $400 million bond for this.

674
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,040
 Obviously they're a much larger city, but they passed a $400 million bond for

675
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,000
 these types of projects.

676
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,360
 If we could get, we've talked about wanting to see more funding for this.

677
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:35,200
 If maybe we could consider 20, 30, $40 million for this on a future bond,

678
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,160
 see if the committee likes that, I think that would be great.

679
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,880
 >> Well, I see them writing notes, look at that.

680
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,160
 >> [LAUGH] >> The person that would be writing notes.

681
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:46,960
 >> Let me touch on that.

682
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:47,760
 >> Yes, sir.

683
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,680
 >> On that slide, and this is really off the topic, but

684
01:03:52,680 --> 01:04:00,680
 I wonder if a left turn could be eliminated from Bolivar on to university.

685
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,800
 >> That's a good idea.

686
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,840
 >> East northbound turning westbound on university.

687
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,040
 >> That's hard.

688
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:12,480
 >> I've seen many, many times people get in that no man's land.

689
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,920
 And blocking everything because they can't get a clear place.

690
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:23,400
 I think that'd be a good place to put a, or at least at certain hours of the day.

691
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,800
 But I think that'd be helpful.

692
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,040
 Please consider that.

693
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,320
 >> That would be very helpful, and I've gotten stuck in the middle of that thing.

694
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,880
 >> Don't go left, don't go left.

695
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,240
 >> [LAUGH]

696
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,360
 >> So you're the guy.

697
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,960
 >> Personal experience.

698
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,560
 >> I take sunrise over to Carol's.

699
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,640
 >> [LAUGH] I'm like, yeah, true.

700
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,360
 Is that what you have, that's it?

701
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,400
 >> That's not all I have, that's all I had on that.

702
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,520
 >> Okay, on that, okay, anyone else?

703
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,680
 I think that's it for this slide.

704
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,320
 Anybody else have anything for any other slide?

705
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,160
 Yes, sir.

706
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,280
 >> Can I have slide seven?

707
01:04:53,280 --> 01:05:01,520
 There we go, and it also relates to the Sycamore, but we can stay on this one.

708
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,720
 So it only goes because of the prior discussion that we just had on the trip

709
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,040
 funding, some of the Sycamore and Fry overlap.

710
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:15,600
 And so we're going to spend the money, and I guess what I'm asking about,

711
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:21,920
 is there a way that we can get synergy to not have two projects a year apart

712
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:29,200
 kind of thing and get the synergy to happen at the same time without delaying

713
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,240
 the trip funding project because that money is encumbered and ready to go and

714
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,680
 we should do stuff with it.

715
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,720
 Is there a way we can get these synergized?

716
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,080
 Because if you're talking about lane, I think this one was lane separators.

717
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,560
 What is it?

718
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,280
 I don't remember the augmentation.

719
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,240
 >> There's, the concept is more fluid and for this project.

720
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,320
 >> Okay, okay, so especially in a situation like that where we had the fluid

721
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:58,200
 concepts, if there's an opportunity to get those engineering standards happen at

722
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,920
 the same time so we can be tearing out those segments on Ferry Street, was it?

723
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:09,160
 >> Less often, I don't want to go there and then come back in a year and a half.

724
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,320
 We get endless complaints about when that happens.

725
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,360
 >> Right.

726
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,800
 >> Even if what eventually comes is great and we budgeted and

727
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:24,840
 did financing efficiently and well, just the mere fact that we kept it torn up for

728
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,200
 repeatedly is something I'm trying to avoid here.

729
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:29,200
 >> We would love that as well.

730
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,200
 >> That's all my questions on this one.

731
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,560
 >> Okay, I don't have any questions on this one.

732
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,680
 Does anybody else have any questions on this?

733
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:45,080
 Okay, did you have anything additional that you wanted to speak about on this?

734
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,200
 Any additional slides you all want to look at?

735
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:47,760
 >> I do.

736
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,160
 >> Okay, let's take a- >> Slide four, please.

737
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:59,920
 I like narrow spot one, I like narrow spot two a lot.

738
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,200
 I like the bump out, what is it?

739
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:03,760
 >> Bulb out?

740
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,680
 >> Bulb out, bulb out, and the stripe.

741
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:15,680
 The chicane scares me, the courtesy spot and the half closure really scares me.

742
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:21,280
 I can see people driving right over the curb.

743
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:27,680
 In fact, we used to see that where Hickory crossed Carroll Boulevard,

744
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:33,480
 right in front of the Carroll Building, where there was a, I got a fan over here.

745
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,760
 Give me that card back.

746
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:43,480
 People would jump right over the curb despite there being a curb there.

747
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:50,960
 I don't care for those two at all, I just think they're very scary, thank you.

748
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,080
 >> So I guess you don't like the chicanery?

749
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,840
 >> I don't like the chicanery, that's right, very nice.

750
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,400
 >> The chicanery.

751
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:05,760
 >> I'll take this time to speak on this, I'm with Joe.

752
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,960
 But I was also thinking about, at the end of those streets where you have the bicycle

753
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,240
 parking lots, remember where you can park in line on the bicycles?

754
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:23,560
 And I don't even know where to begin to have a plan as to where those would be located.

755
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:30,840
 Would that be something that would start kind of like downtown, in the downtown area, kind of experimenting with that or with that?

756
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,440
 >> No, we didn't, my apologies.

757
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:39,680
 >> I'm sorry, I was just going to say, how do you get to a point where you're making decisions on that?

758
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:45,000
 >> Again, it will be subject to the public involvement, but in the costs,

759
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:53,360
 in the initial costs, we did put in bike racks in the Fry District.

760
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,200
 >> Okay, in the Fry District.

761
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,440
 Would it be, it's some kind of expense to go ahead and

762
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:05,360
 try that particular concept, other than bike racks?

763
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:12,360
 I mean, using the street portion as part of the, do you all know what I'm talking about?

764
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,800
 Where at the edge of the street, you don't go all the way to the end of the street,

765
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:21,440
 you come back to the street and you leave spaces to park bikes with the protection.

766
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:23,560
 >> Into a parking area for bikes.

767
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,360
 >> Yeah. >> Daylighting.

768
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:26,200
 >> What is it called?

769
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,400
 >> Daylighting, but you put a bike rack in there.

770
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,440
 >> You put a bike rack in there?

771
01:09:30,440 --> 01:09:32,080
 >> I think that's what you- >> That's what I'm talking about.

772
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,600
 >> Yeah, that's what I thought you were talking about.

773
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,160
 >> Is that all part of all this, part of the toolbox?

774
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,400
 >> Yes. >> It sounds like it's separate.

775
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,640
 >> It is. >> But it's part of the toolbox, okay.

776
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:48,400
 I think that's all that I have, but one, two, that's it, one or two, I'll go with that.

777
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:49,760
 Anybody else want to weigh in on that?

778
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,640
 >> I just have one final question on this item.

779
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,280
 So all of these proposals, we saw feasibility study,

780
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:03,920
 I think, in fall 25 and possible implementation in spring 26.

781
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:09,520
 Would the public input sort of be all one session together, all of the projects together?

782
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,000
 Would they be split up amongst multiple input opportunities?

783
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,400
 Do we not know that yet?

784
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,240
 Is that too far ahead?

785
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:20,320
 >> Well, it could be both.

786
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,160
 >> Okay.

787
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,000
 Undecided TBD, TBD.

788
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,800
 >> Well, there's some questions that are really very neighborhood centric.

789
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,920
 >> Yeah, yeah, thank you.

790
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,600
 >> Good, okay, well, it sounds like we are done with this item here.

791
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,000
 We're gonna, thank you very much.

792
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:47,760
 We're gonna move on to item D, MC 25, there's 013, looking at our staff memorandums.

793
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,480
 Who's gonna pull those up?

794
01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:53,360
 We have any questions?

795
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,040
 Any comments or concerns on each one of these things quickly?

796
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,360
 We can go through that.

797
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,040
 And then I'll have to remember to look on the back.

798
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:08,640
 Yes, so there's our randoms.

799
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,440
 Anybody have anything on rerouting plan for South Bonnebury and Bush Creek?

800
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:13,520
 Yes?

801
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:19,040
 >> On the first one there, do you, can we pull up,

802
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:24,640
 what is the exhibit, I forget, two, thank you.

803
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:25,480
 Perfect, thank you.

804
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:31,000
 This isn't, I just don't remember the old alignment for

805
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,440
 when we approved the neighborhood.

806
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:40,520
 This roadway is the current planned roadway for leading up into there, right?

807
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,000
 We're not pulling, we're not moving this and

808
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,800
 pulling into the riparian areas or the drainages or anything.

809
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,680
 This is the current plan, correct?

810
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,080
 >> Good morning, this is Chandra, transportation services.

811
01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:01,600
 This is just the concepts we are submitting for UPRR for crossing at 377.

812
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,240
 So these are just concepts with us and the land has been dedicated by this sage

813
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,320
 brush development back in 2020, 2021.

814
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,400
 Within the right of way we are sketched it, so this is nothing final.

815
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,200
 >> All right, so I guess when I'm asking, let me state it a different way.

816
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:23,360
 I thought in the original sage brush plan that there was a road here.

817
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,040
 There's not, this is an add-on?

818
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,320
 >> This is the roadway.

819
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:34,040
 So they had built up to this point where the Oakleaf Trail ends.

820
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,800
 So we are picking up from the right of way they already dedicated to the city.

821
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,360
 >> For the roadway.

822
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:48,120
 >> The question I'm asking is are we sacrificing,

823
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:55,120
 are we sacrificing green space retention in order to get roadway for this?

824
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:55,720
 >> No.

825
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,360
 >> Okay, that's that question.

826
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:04,720
 And as part of the larger on this bonnie bray with the loop around and

827
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:11,000
 where we're closing down the one intersection, I know we will do a TIA.

828
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,640
 That's perfect, thank you.

829
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:17,520
 I know we will do TIAs as we have development.

830
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,240
 But do we have a predicted model impacts already?

831
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,240
 Cuz we already know these intersections.

832
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,720
 And we already know the traffic flows.

833
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:31,360
 And we can anticipate this segment moving to that segment in terms of flows.

834
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:38,280
 Do we already have predictions and models on these revised hypothetical TIAs?

835
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:43,040
 >> We didn't have the revised ones, but we have the numbers from 2020,

836
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:47,000
 2021 based on the data from 2018 and 2019.

837
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:53,240
 And we believe it's only 17 and 34 during the peak hours.

838
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,240
 And daily trips are around 100.

839
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,240
 So- >> Look at this right here.

840
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,240
 >> Yes.

841
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,120
 >> Okay, all right, thank you.

842
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,480
 That's all I have on this one, ma'am.

843
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:05,160
 >> Thank you.

844
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,320
 Anybody else have, yes, we have one more person.

845
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,200
 >> Chandra, come back.

846
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,760
 >> [INAUDIBLE]

847
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,680
 >> Just for the purposes of the audience and the future recording of this meeting.

848
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:15,200
 >> Sure.

849
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,480
 >> Why are we closing, so I already know the answer.

850
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:21,880
 But why are we closing two crossings while we're creating a new one?

851
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,920
 Just for review.

852
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:29,520
 >> So as such, as you can see from the crossing, it's at a skewed angle.

853
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,720
 And it's already unsafe.

854
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,720
 And to have a new crossing to be in place,

855
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:40,040
 UPRR has a rule of you have to close two crossings to get a new crossing.

856
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:45,920
 And this crossing is on our mobility plan with the Hickory Creek Brush Creek.

857
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,760
 That's a primary arterial to meet UPRR's criteria for two to one.

858
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:57,440
 So we have to close those unsafe ones, which really carries very low volume.

859
01:14:57,440 --> 01:15:01,000
 And this will be our primary corridor in the future.

860
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:01,840
 >> All right, thank you.

861
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,340
 >> Sure.

862
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:06,800
 >> Yes, we have one more question.

863
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,760
 >> Before you leave.

864
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,240
 The green line that runs more or less parallel to Brush Creek,

865
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:18,120
 is that the delineation between Argyle and City of Denton?

866
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,840
 >> No, I don't think so.

867
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,360
 Even the southern side is still City of Denton.

868
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,320
 >> Okay, what does that green line represent?

869
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,320
 >> It's the right of your lines, the property boundaries.

870
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,760
 >> I see, okay, thank you.

871
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,740
 >> And how does Brush Creek cross 377 at that intersection?

872
01:15:38,740 --> 01:15:43,720
 >> It will be an at grade crossing with the quad gates, with the UPRR gates,

873
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,400
 that does a complete closure at right at 377.

874
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,400
 And this will be signalized.

875
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,600
 >> Similar to Vintage?

876
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,640
 >> Yes.

877
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:54,240
 >> Okay.

878
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,040
 >> With preemption and quiet zones.

879
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,120
 >> Okay, okay, thank you.

880
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,200
 >> Oh, they get their quiet zone.

881
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:10,080
 >> Okay, thank you, traffic control for pedestrians and cyclists in construction areas.

882
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,960
 Anybody have any questions or concerns about that?

883
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,220
 Okay, we have one.

884
01:16:16,220 --> 01:16:20,000
 >> I'm still running into, there will be contractors doing some work

885
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,160
 and they put the signs completely blocking the sidewalk

886
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,040
 when there's perfectly good spaces for them to put them.

887
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,840
 Otherwise, I'll report it when I see it, but just wanted to note that.

888
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:27,680
 >> No, I appreciate it.

889
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,840
 And we've been working with our public works inspectors to get on those contractors

890
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,920
 to make sure we're keeping the sidewalks clear.

891
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:33,920
 So, thank you.

892
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,800
 >> Thank you.

893
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,040
 Total lane miles completed in FY 2024.

894
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,680
 Anybody have any questions on that?

895
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:42,960
 Yes, Suzy?

896
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,320
 >> Seth, I'm sorry to put you on the spot.

897
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,280
 Do you remember ballpark, how many lane miles of roadway the city has?

898
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,360
 Is it 1534?

899
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,840
 Am I making that up?

900
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,500
 1534, thereabouts?

901
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:57,120
 Okay, so 1534, how long do streets last?

902
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,480
 An asphalt street, give me a range.

903
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:02,760
 >> So, it depends on the design criteria, but generally

904
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,760
 between 25 and 40 years is the design life.

905
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,320
 >> 25 and 40 years, okay.

906
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:15,240
 And so, we just did, okay, so based on having about 1534 lane miles of roadway.

907
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,480
 And last year, we reconstructed 22 and a half miles of roadway.

908
01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:26,080
 And streets last 25 to 40, asphalt streets last 25 to 40 years more or less.

909
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:32,800
 So, at that rate, we are reconstructing our streets every 68 years.

910
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:41,240
 >> Well, I will say that we could do that quicker if we can tax the taxpayers

911
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,960
 to put some more funding towards it.

912
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:48,120
 And, you know, just another, Madam Cassie,

913
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:53,080
 we would probably need another one whole penny so we can hire some people

914
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,200
 and get some contracts going.

915
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,720
 >> So, there's lots of different ways to get there to get that funding and figure

916
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,320
 out how to make that work, but I just want to emphasize that, you know, we're--

917
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,080
 >> Okay, we tell the people.

918
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,600
 >> And I know it's largely a funding problem.

919
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,920
 Like if we had all the money, it would be a lot easier to keep up.

920
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:14,840
 But I just kind of wanted to emphasize that point that we are underfunding the street.

921
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,320
 >> Okay, we're underfunding.

922
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,120
 >> Well, Dana Kramer, Deputy Director of Operations.

923
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,920
 I just want to add, while pulling the data,

924
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,320
 that was just the last year, '23, '24.

925
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:25,800
 >> Yeah.

926
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:31,760
 >> '22, '23, capital by itself did 39.7 lane miles at that time.

927
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:36,080
 So, it's all on how the roads are-- when the projects are closed and when they're completed.

928
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,840
 So, we do-- you are right, there are a lot of roads.

929
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,880
 We're not on the exact timeframe, but we are looking at different funding options

930
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,960
 on how we can do that.

931
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,800
 >> I appreciate the clarification too.

932
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:47,360
 >> Thank you.

933
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,280
 Thank you for coming and saving me, saving my words.

934
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,200
 [ Laughter ]

935
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,680
 >> They are working people.

936
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:58,720
 >> Can I just follow up here and ask, was that lane miles reconstructed

937
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:04,360
 or lane miles reconstructed and lane miles and overlaid combined?

938
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,880
 >> That was just reconstructed.

939
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,280
 >> Okay, thank you.

940
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,040
 >> So, we kept it consistent across that.

941
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,640
 >> Okay, thank you.

942
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,160
 We'll move on to quarterly transportation services report.

943
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:24,720
 Does anybody have any questions on quality transportation services report?

944
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,160
 >> I do, but it's 180 pages.

945
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,200
 I'm going to honestly have to come back.

946
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,120
 >> Okay, come back.

947
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,600
 You can meet with-- you can meet separately.

948
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,600
 Yeah, you can meet separately, yes.

949
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,560
 Quiet Zone--

950
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,640
 >> Can't just praise them for having 180 pages of data.

951
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:40,600
 I'm excited.

952
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,840
 >> Oh, ooh, data, data.

953
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:51,040
 Quiet Zone realignment for Mingo and Rudele.

954
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,640
 Oh, I'm very excited about this.

955
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,600
 I do understand that there's been some work on some of the--

956
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,080
 some of the design work is starting to happen, some planning.

957
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,960
 I saw some people out there--

958
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:03,240
 >> Yes.

959
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,840
 >> Mealing around.

960
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,640
 So, I'm very excited about that.

961
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,560
 I do know that there's another little neighborhood situation getting ready to come

962
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:15,920
 up through their way, maybe some apartments that's being planned for.

963
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,440
 I'm not sure what the neighborhood is going to say.

964
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:21,800
 But any case, that's pretty interesting to me.

965
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,960
 My favorite one right now.

966
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,400
 Yes, it's my favorite one.

967
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:32,640
 >> Can staff take a stab for the next meeting at addressing some

968
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,560
 of the concerns we heard from the public speaking about this alignment

969
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,280
 and these kinds of things just so that we have some response?

970
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:41,800
 >> Yes, sir.

971
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,560
 We can do that.

972
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,120
 >> Thank you.

973
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,560
 Anybody else on this?

974
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:45,320
 All right, great.

975
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,960
 So, we can look forward to that.

976
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,040
 Very important.

977
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:52,520
 Unallocating-- unallocated bike fund usage.

978
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,440
 Did we touch on that a little bit already?

979
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:56,480
 >> I don't know if we did or not.

980
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,280
 But I think Farhan can if you have--

981
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,960
 >> We were talking about the bike line and extra money that was left over to--

982
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:01,720
 was that different?

983
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:02,160
 >> Yes.

984
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:03,560
 >> Okay.

985
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:15,440
 >> So, the unallocated bike lane funds were the funds that were dedicated for bike lanes.

986
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:19,040
 But while we started implementing some of the projects,

987
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:23,680
 we've realized that when it comes to bike lanes, they are not simply bike lanes.

988
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,600
 They interfere with many traffic operations related or traffic or roadway related items.

989
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:40,440
 And so, in order to address that issue, we are requesting that we include all those items as a concept bike lane implementation.

990
01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:46,880
 Otherwise, it's simply, in a simple statement,

991
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:53,280
 yes, it is addressing bike lanes, but then in details, it would be looking into safety,

992
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:59,480
 many, many other uses that would be interfering with those.

993
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:00,960
 >> Thank you for clearing that up.

994
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,320
 That was a nice clarification of what that was.

995
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,240
 Yes, ma'am.

996
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,200
 >> And on the note of unallocated bike fund usage, I mean,

997
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,160
 we've had a lot of staff turnover during the time I've been paying attention.

998
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:15,720
 And the allocation annually is 200,000 on the-- in the budget?

999
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,160
 >> I'll have to confirm, but I think it's 200,000.

1000
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,160
 >> Yes, that is correct.

1001
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:18,520
 >> Okay.

1002
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,400
 >> 200,000.

1003
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:20,600
 >> Thank you.

1004
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,360
 So, my understanding is part of the reason we haven't spent it is one,

1005
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,040
 sometimes new people are onboarded and they don't even know about it.

1006
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,520
 I think that's kind of happened.

1007
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,920
 But also, there's not-- I haven't seen much of a plan of spending it,

1008
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,320
 you know, where those dollars are going to go each year.

1009
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:41,040
 So, my question is, are we still kind of working on a--

1010
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:47,680
 some sort of a plan, an implementation plan to help guide future spending and targeting of bike

1011
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,680
 and pedestrian infrastructure so that we kind of have a plan

1012
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,400
 for how to spend the funds moving forward?

1013
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:53,960
 >> That is correct.

1014
01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:03,920
 We are working on a plan and in the Q4 report, we added around a list of 20 prioritized projects and 15 or 20.

1015
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:08,800
 And then, I think we will pick the top four or five projects and

1016
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:14,160
 start allocating, you know, funding to those projects.

1017
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,800
 This last year, we tried to develop the process, prioritization process,

1018
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:25,640
 looking into how we will address the various factors associated with the bike lane prioritization.

1019
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:30,440
 And now, we are at a stage where we have draft list of projects and we just have to look into--

1020
01:23:30,440 --> 01:23:33,760
 we are looking into the cost side of things now.

1021
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:34,400
 >> Okay.

1022
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:39,560
 At some point, will we be releasing to the public sort of the criteria that's being used?

1023
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,800
 So, there's just sort of transparency and, well, how did they select these projects?

1024
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,400
 Because you know those questions are going to come up at some point.

1025
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:45,960
 >> Yes.

1026
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:46,680
 >> Okay.

1027
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,440
 >> Thank you.

1028
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:53,120
 >> Let's talk about-- speaking of the next thing, upcoming public meetings.

1029
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,040
 Let us know what's going on with the next public meetings.

1030
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,040
 We see those dates there.

1031
01:23:59,040 --> 01:23:59,600
 >> Yes, ma'am.

1032
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:04,520
 So, it looks like March 25th, 26th, we've got some reclassification meetings.

1033
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,440
 And then, April 3rd is going to be the neighborhood 1B.

1034
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:10,680
 So, that was a recent CMAR that was just approved.

1035
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:17,480
 Roughly $30 million up around the Stewart-Sherman-Windsor kind of area.

1036
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:20,320
 That's associated with the 2019 bond program.

1037
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,120
 So, that will be the pre-construction kickoff meeting, neighborhood meeting there.

1038
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,760
 >> What does reclassification mean when something is reclassified?

1039
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:29,080
 What is that?

1040
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,400
 >> I'll give you back to Paul.

1041
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:37,800
 >> Does it go from a boulevard to an avenue or a street to a highway or--

1042
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,160
 what does reclassification mean?

1043
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,720
 Look at him doing the shuffle around back over there.

1044
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:43,800
 >> I don't want to answer your question.

1045
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,000
 >> Yeah.

1046
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,200
 >> Chandra, Transportation Services.

1047
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,720
 >> So, we have Eagle Road currently with the 2022 mobility plan.

1048
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,040
 It was upgraded as a secondary arterial.

1049
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:54,680
 >> Oh, okay.

1050
01:24:54,680 --> 01:25:03,160
 >> So, we are retaining it to be a collector to keep the existing characteristics

1051
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,960
 of the streets like speeds and safety.

1052
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,960
 If you do a secondary arterial, what it does is like it increases the speeds

1053
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,720
 with four lanes and some turn lanes.

1054
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,480
 So, we are trying to retain it so that's the reclassification that already was.

1055
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:24,080
 So, we can effectively manage because the characteristics around UNT are at lower speeds

1056
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,960
 with most of the streets are 20 miles per hour and some are 30.

1057
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:28,280
 >> Yeah.

1058
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:33,760
 >> But if you go to secondary arterial, the speeds will be at 35 to 40 miles per hour.

1059
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:34,480
 >> Thank you.

1060
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:35,600
 Thank you for the education.

1061
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:36,640
 >> Sure. Thank you.

1062
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,080
 >> All right.

1063
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,880
 We do have some attachments here but we're looking at time

1064
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,360
 because I know we've got to wrap this up.

1065
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,360
 >> Yes, and I believe we went through most of them.

1066
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,960
 >> Yeah, I think that the one that I do want to see--

1067
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:56,320
 no, go back to the attachments, the Exhibit 5.

1068
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,360
 Was it something-- did you all see an Exhibit 5?

1069
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,720
 Let me look at that.

1070
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,240
 >> That's Roodell.

1071
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,320
 >> Yep. So, this is the Roodell extension.

1072
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,120
 >> Yeah.

1073
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,480
 >> That comes across through the service center site

1074
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:11,840
 and then this piece is going plan north and then this is the continuation

1075
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,240
 at the bottom all the way up to US 380.

1076
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,760
 >> OK. That's what I wanted to see.

1077
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:18,480
 All right.

1078
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:19,840
 And just put that up there.

1079
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:20,280
 Thank you, sir.

1080
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:21,200
 That's all I needed.

1081
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,880
 Anybody else on that, anything?

1082
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:29,920
 OK. Let's move on to EMC 25-1014.

1083
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,320
 Receive report, hold a discussion

1084
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,840
 and give staff direction regarding future meeting topics.

1085
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:40,680
 Agenda information sheet, you got to guide us through this?

1086
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:41,480
 >> I sure can.

1087
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:45,240
 So, today you guys saw the 2025 trip proposal,

1088
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,280
 so we're proposing to remove that.

1089
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:48,240
 >> OK.

1090
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,160
 >> Item number 10 was the rerouting plan for South Ponti Bray.

1091
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,320
 So, we talked through that a little bit.

1092
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,680
 So, we're proposing to remove that.

1093
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,080
 The Quiet Zone realignment for Mingo Roodell is

1094
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,080
 that exhibit we just had up.

1095
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,480
 So, we're proposing to remove that as well.

1096
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,400
 Temporary traffic control for pedestrians and bicyclists

1097
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,760
 in construction zones, that was one of the exhibits

1098
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,520
 that we provided information on.

1099
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,120
 >> I have a hand that came up.

1100
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:12,640
 >> Yes, sir.

1101
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,760
 >> You-- I can ask it after he's done.

1102
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:14,960
 >> OK.

1103
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:15,720
 >> Oh, OK.

1104
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,040
 >> Total lane miles, we provided that information,

1105
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,200
 the traffic calming measures as well

1106
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,280
 as the unallocated bike fun usage.

1107
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,360
 So, about seven items that we're proposing

1108
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,680
 to remove off the list.

1109
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:32,880
 >> OK. Do we have any questions or comments

1110
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,360
 or concerns about any of those seven items

1111
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,600
 that we are proposing to remove from the list?

1112
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,200
 Is this--

1113
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:38,480
 >> Yes.

1114
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:39,440
 >> -- question related to that?

1115
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:39,880
 Yes.

1116
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,360
 >> I'd like to keep the Roodell one on there just

1117
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,360
 because there's some outstanding questions that I asked

1118
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,000
 to bring back that I'm fine with the rest of them.

1119
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,680
 I don't know that it's going to be prohibitive but like,

1120
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,640
 just because there are some outstanding questions.

1121
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,920
 Can we leave that one on there?

1122
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,480
 >> OK. We have a comment.

1123
01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,080
 >> We can leave that one on there.

1124
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,120
 I would like to say the lane miles

1125
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,680
 that will come back annually.

1126
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,080
 So, we're going to-- I'm going

1127
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,600
 to propose changing the matrix slightly to add some annual

1128
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,520
 and quarterly reporting that's ongoing that we won't--

1129
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,040
 we're going to put it in a separate category

1130
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,560
 to make it easier to read.

1131
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,320
 >> Keep up with-- OK.

1132
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,240
 >> So, you might see it change next month but we will--

1133
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,360
 we'll bring that back every year going forward.

1134
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:23,200
 >> OK. Anyone else?

1135
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:23,680
 All right.

1136
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,400
 There's not any-- anything else.

1137
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:33,760
 We are going to-- I'll make a motion to approve removal--

1138
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,920
 we didn't remove anything.

1139
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:40,000
 We just-- well, we're removing but we also have amendments

1140
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,280
 to check-- to add additional-- OK.

1141
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:47,640
 I'm going to start over because I needed this.

1142
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:53,880
 I move that we-- I move to approve removal

1143
01:28:53,880 --> 01:29:03,560
 of the stated items as noted with the exception of?

1144
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,640
 >> The Riddell and the--

1145
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:08,400
 >> Lane miles.

1146
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,360
 >> And the lane miles.

1147
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,920
 Can we get approval for that?

1148
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,480
 Can we hear the motion?

1149
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:16,680
 You second?

1150
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,800
 OK. You second.

1151
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,920
 Any other additional questions, comments?

1152
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,240
 All right.

1153
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:22,040
 Can we get a vote?

1154
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,280
 All in favor?

1155
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,060
 >> Aye.

1156
01:29:24,060 --> 01:29:25,280
 >> Aye.

1157
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:25,640
 >> All right.

1158
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:26,680
 Aye. Ayes have it.

1159
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,360
 Thank you.

1160
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,880
 With that being said, concluding items.

1161
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,240
 Any concluding items?

1162
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:33,800
 All right.

1163
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,840
 Well, I am going to take the up-- yes, we have one concluding item.

1164
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,400
 >> Next meeting is scheduled for April 30th.

1165
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,560
 >> Next meeting, scheduled for April 30th.

1166
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,480
 We will go-- we didn't go over our meeting dates.

1167
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:47,200
 Are we OK with our meeting date?

1168
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,280
 Yes. Including item.

1169
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,720
 >> I like 10 o'clock.

1170
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:51,480
 I like it here.

1171
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:52,280
 >> OK.

1172
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:53,880
 >> OK. Ready?

1173
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:54,200
 >> Yes.

1174
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:54,800
 >> All right.

1175
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:55,680
 Thank you.

1176
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,840
 So this morning, we had Sam Balto from Portland ride

1177
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,360
 with the Newton Razor Elementary Bike Bus.

1178
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,000
 He's sort of known to be the person

1179
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,440
 who brought bike buses to the United States.

1180
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:08,480
 If you don't know what it is,

1181
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:11,840
 a bike bus is basically children once a week riding

1182
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,320
 to school together on the same route every single week.

1183
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,280
 It's a great way for kids to have an active way to get to school.

1184
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,800
 Actually, Lauren in our audience was there as well.

1185
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,240
 She rode with her kids.

1186
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,640
 So that was really cool to have him visit Denton.

1187
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:24,880
 He's going to Austin next.

1188
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,960
 And we're one of only like two cities he's going to visit in Texas.

1189
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:29,840
 So that was really cool.

1190
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,960
 He's the reason that we have a bike bus at all in Denton.

1191
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,400
 So it was really exciting to have him visit us.

1192
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,040
 So I just wanted to say it was very exciting.

1193
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,080
 >> Let me ask you a question.

1194
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,200
 What is a bike bus?

1195
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,680
 I mean, I'm thinking a bus with some bikes you put on top.

1196
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,240
 >> So it's kids on bikes and scooters

1197
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,800
 and sometimes rollerblades all riding

1198
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,440
 to school together along the same route.

1199
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:50,480
 >> It's like a little group ride.

1200
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:51,280
 >> It's a group ride.

1201
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,680
 >> Like they should kind of be doing it already anyway.

1202
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,560
 >> Yeah. And so it increases safety

1203
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:57,880
 and it's a lot more fun for the kids.

1204
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,040
 Some people will do a walking bike bus as well.

1205
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,600
 So it's just kids walking together

1206
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,160
 on the same route every single week.

1207
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,880
 >> Oh, we need to make that a city-wide project.

1208
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,680
 >> Yeah, it's super cool.

1209
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,680
 >> I see the yellow and they have red lights in the back.

1210
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:11,640
 >> You have bubbles.

1211
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:18,000
 >> OK. Well, sir, gentlemen, let's stay focused, please.

1212
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,360
 Because I know how you all are when we get on City Council.

1213
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:23,800
 All right.

1214
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,120
 With that being said, we will conclude this meeting at 1131.

1215
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:28,640
 Thank you.

1216
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:29,200
 >> Very good.

1217
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:29,520
 >> All right.

1218
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:30,880
 Now, you all can talk about bubbles.