WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:13.400 I see a quorum is present here so go ahead and convene this meeting the 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:24.120 Historic Landmark Committee for Monday March 3rd at 5.30pm. So first order of 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:46.320 business as always I pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:59.240 Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God one and indivisible. 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:24.240 Play ball. Alright so the second order of business on our agenda is to hear presentations from members of the public. We have one who is requested to speak or offer a public comment. Seeing none we will move to our items of consideration. 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:39.240 So first A HLC 25-015 we're going to consider approval of the February 10th 2025 minute. I'll entertain motions. 00:01:39.240 --> 00:02:08.240 Second. We have a vote to approve in a second. Any discussion? Alright so item B COA 24-0014. We've got an application for certificate of appropriateness in accordance with our sections to replace exterior windows at 704 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:28.240 West Oak Street within the Oak history historic district. And I bet our presentation office has some issues. 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:37.240 Okay as stated this is at 704 West Oak Street. It's located on the north side of West Oak Street in our Oak Hickory Historic District. 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:43.240 The owners are gone and the construction date for the residents is 1951. 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:50.240 So the request is for the replacement of 21 windows and removal of 13 storm windows. 00:02:50.240 --> 00:03:04.240 It would be along with the lanes entire exterior current conditions right now. It does have protected. It is protected by non historic storm windows and there is air leakage leakage that is currently happening. 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:10.240 So as you can see here the reflective storm window and then some of that gaping with that air leakage. 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:39.240 The current design is single pane. It does have horizontal lights which is when the sash goes horizontally. They're double hung windows with they are wood framing and they are original and they do have the storm windows. The proposed design is still double hung windows with that horizontal light but they would be double pane and then they would actually be a pine species painted white. 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:51.240 As was provided in your backup staff's analysis looked at standards for rehabilitation 2, 3, 5, 6, and 9 from the standards of rehabilitation. 00:03:51.240 --> 00:04:04.240 Some examples of other windows along West Oak Street. We do have kind of for our ranch style homes. We have wooden multi light double hung windows. We also see wooden horizontal light double hung windows. 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:15.240 We have aluminum horizontal light windows. So that is something that's very common for rich out homes. So it is something that we would see within that West Oak area. 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:37.240 Staff's analysis also looked at section 4.9.4C broken down for the Oak Hickory Historic District looking specifically at architectural detail and then windows and doors. Staff is recommending approval of the replacement of the 21 main resident windows at 704 West Oak Street subject to the following conditions. 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:55.240 Prior to any issuance of any building permits, staff would like to confirm that the main living room window picture window, which is this window right here, opening will remain as it currently exists. 00:04:55.240 --> 00:05:05.240 And then prior to any issuance of any building permits, confirmation and/or updated window specs showing the implementation of a horizontal light picture window in that main living room window. 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:20.240 It wasn't clear from the materials received by staff from the applicant whether or not that large picture window would remain in existence. So that is why staff is recommending approval subject to the following conditions. 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:25.240 And I can stand for any questions and I'll show you once again. 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:32.240 This is what I mean by large picture window. 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:41.240 Does that window open? No. 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:52.240 And the applicant is not here to answer any questions. 00:05:52.240 --> 00:06:04.240 I will move approval of this request with the conditions. 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.240 Thank you, Commissioner McKenna. 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.240 I'll have a second. 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.240 Any other discussion? 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.240 I'll second it. 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:16.240 All right. 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:17.240 Vote, all in favor, aye? 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:18.240 Aye. 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:19.240 All opposed? 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:27.240 All right, passes. 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:31.240 All right, let's move on to item C. 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:47.240 This is a consideration for an application for a certificate of appropriateness in accordance with codes to construct a new one story residence at 2203 Houston Place in the West Oak Area Historic District. 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.240 Thank you, Chair. 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.240 As stated, this is located along Houston Place. 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:54.240 The property is owned by Randy Park. 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.240 It is in that West Oak Area Historic District, and the property is currently vacant. 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:05.240 So the request today is for that new residence, approximately 2,200 square feet. 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:10.240 It would include three bedrooms, two bathrooms, a half bath, and a two-car garage. 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:18.240 So this is current conditions right here, and then the proposed new residence here. 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:22.240 So these are the proposed elevation drawings for that residence. 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:27.240 So here is your north elevation, which is your main facade facing Houston Place. 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.240 You have that western elevation, which is that two-car garage. 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:37.240 You have your eastern elevation, and then you have your south elevation, which is facing towards the rear of the property. 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:46.240 As you can see, there are going to be solar panels provided, which staff kind of covered in the backup packet for you all. 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.240 Proposed architectural drawings. 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:54.240 We have the floor plan here showing just the layout of the home itself. 00:07:54.240 --> 00:08:01.240 We have our roof plan. 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:08.240 And I just wanted to show some examples of the residents in the West Oak Area Historic District, kind of based off what they're proposing. 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:15.240 So similar to their proposed design, you have that broad entry porch that's at the front. 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.240 We have one story. 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.240 We have double-hung windows that you can see on this example. 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:28.240 And then we also have a cross-gabled roof, which actually is the adjacent property next to the new proposed property. 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.240 So just to kind of give you an example again, this is what we're looking at. 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:39.240 So staff wanted to kind of highlight some of those details that are also seen in the neighboring residents. 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:49.240 Staff's analysis, because it is a new build, looked at the standards for rehabilitation, focusing on these last two in terms of new construction. 00:08:49.240 --> 00:09:01.240 And then staff's analysis also looked at Section 4.9.6(c) of that West Oak Area Historic District, focusing kind of on those larger details when it comes to the residents itself. 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:15.240 So the principal structure, the architectural detailing, building placement where it's placed on the lot, chimneys, facade materials, our front entrance, kind of those porch, and then the roof form itself. 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:30.240 So staff is recommending approval as submitted of that COA for the new residents at 2203 Houston Place, as it does meet that Secretary of Interior's standards for rehabilitation in our 4.9.6(c) of the Dent development. 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:38.240 I can stand for any questions. And we do have the applicants here if you have any questions as well. 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:45.240 Tell us about your project. Pardon me? Just tell us about your project. 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:57.240 The house is for my younger brother, Zoe, right here. I live just a few houses down on 2223 Houston Place. 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:09.240 This is our father, Randy Park. He's actually owner of several of the lots right around in that same area. 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:32.240 This is just, he's moved to Lewisville a while back for his son to go to use Lewisville Independent School District schools. And now his son lives on Alamo Place on the cul-de-sac. And we are wanting Zoe to come move closer to his son and closer to the rest of the family since nobody else lives in Lewisville. 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:39.240 We all live right, most of us live right around and not in this historic district that we're talking about. 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:42.240 All right. Spanning the gang's hideout, I guess. 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:45.240 He'll be owner-occupied then, essentially. 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:49.240 Yes, yes, yes. Back in the property right there. 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:59.240 Yeah, I will gift the land to him for this project. 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:08.240 Any other questions, discussion? 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:17.240 Well, there seeming to be none. I will recommend that this petition be approved as submitted. 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.240 I second that. 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:24.240 All right. 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.240 Motion has been made and seconded. All those in favor? 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:29.240 Aye. 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.240 All those opposed, nay. 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.240 Seeing no opposition. 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:34.240 It's passed. 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:35.240 Thank you. 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.240 Thanks for coming to see us. Good luck on your project. 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:38.240 Thank you very much. 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:43.240 That's been the only vacant lot on that screen for a long time. 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.240 I'm happy to see what it's going to be. 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.240 And welcome back to them. 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:48.240 Thanks, guys. 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:49.240 Thank you. 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:54.240 Thank you. 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.240 All right, well, let's move right along into our work session. 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:16.240 So item A, HLC 25-013 is to receive a report, hold a discussion, and give a staff direction on the Historic Landmark Commission's request for local historic designation of eligible historic properties. 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:17.240 I have one. 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:27.240 All right. 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:31.240 This is a commercial property. 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:38.240 Currently houses a number of businesses, including Soma Massage Therapy. 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:43.240 It is a Mount Miller designed building. 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:50.240 I don't know how many commercial buildings they would have done, but several. 00:12:50.240 --> 00:13:02.240 It's designed by Mount Miller, and then the material is the concrete that was concrete block that was manufactured in Den Creek. 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:14.240 So I think it's sort of interesting in form, its proximity to downtown without being kind of right on the square. 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:26.240 The fact that it is historically significant because of the architecture and then because of the materials that it uses. 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.240 Nifty. 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:46.240 So we would just need three people in support or three commissioners in support of adding this to the list. 00:13:46.240 --> 00:14:01.240 We've got our three, we've got Commissioner Adams, Commissioner Sherman, and then Commissioner Treats. 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:16.240 I'm glad we also got four. We've got the three, and then it's going to be the only one that I am against. 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:21.240 Each one of you. 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:27.240 That's great. Any others? 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:38.240 I have one that's big for me too, and I don't know, I just saw it today and it reminded me that's a really cool house. 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:43.240 I had to look it up because I can tell you exactly where it is. It's the house where Ravel is. 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:53.240 Oh, yeah. It used to be a photographer's studio. Before that it was on a beach a long time ago. 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:57.240 Oh, wow. The house behind. 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:01.240 Actually, the Ravel property, the building itself is kind of cool too. 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:06.240 So it looks like it was like an old-school garden. It does look like it with that window up front. 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.240 I think it was Buick. 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:13.240 We're taking a journey. 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:24.240 We're going to see the ground. 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.240 I believe the folks who own Ravel. 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:34.240 I just wanted to give you a quick background story. 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:39.240 The former members of the commission had reached out at the time. 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:48.240 They had expressed interest, former Commissioner Anne Anderson, Mary Anderson had reached out to them. 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:55.240 But at that time they weren't necessarily interested. I think it's good to re-approach them. 00:15:55.240 --> 00:16:04.240 But just want to provide that background that they were approached about two years ago. 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:09.240 So for the house and the... 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.240 For the house itself. 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.240 I agree. 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:17.240 I like how you're thinking. 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.240 I support both. 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:25.240 Okay, so both the house and the former auto. 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:38.240 Okay, and Ravel. 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:43.240 Great, we're on a roll. I love it. 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:49.240 I wanted to just follow up. I delivered a letter to Oak Street Draft House. 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:56.240 And also had the opportunity to talk to John Lynch. So they are very interested. They'll be getting in touch. 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.240 Okay. 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:04.240 And yeah, we'll follow up with their big anniversary coming up here within a week. 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.240 Open every 13 years. Wonderful. 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.240 Okay, and I will give updates. 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:20.240 I have not heard from the gentleman on the Stocker Building on Austin. I have not heard from that gentleman. 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:24.240 And then I have not heard from the property owner. 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.240 So yeah, you just mentioned it. Is that you? 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.240 Oh, okay. 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.240 I'll take him a little bit then. 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.240 Okay, so that one's been received. 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:35.240 I'll see you tonight. 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:48.240 Alright, alright. 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.240 I was wondering if it was ranch while I was waiting on it. 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:56.240 If you got a complaint in our previous meeting that it was really hot in here, so I turned all the AC down earlier. 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:57.240 Okay. 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:58.240 It was so loud. 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.240 That's okay. 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:01.240 Why do you take so long? 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:03.240 It's very funny. 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:08.240 I have another business to discuss. 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:12.240 Alright, hearing none, then I guess I'm ignoring your business. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.240 I will adjourn the meeting. 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.240 Nope. 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.240 We have the matrix and spooky items. 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:19.240 Oh, my bad. 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:20.240 I skipped ahead. 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.240 You skipped ahead to the matrix. 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.240 I skipped ahead to the matrix. 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:27.240 No, I want to talk to the matrix. 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.240 So that is item B. That's right. 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:33.240 There it is, HLC 25012, discussion regarding the matrix. 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:34.240 Talk to me. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.240 Take us back to the matrix. 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:36.240 Yes. 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:41.240 So there's the matrix. 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.240 Is this the way that I would suggest something to go on the matrix? 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:46.240 Yes. 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:47.240 Okay. 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:58.240 So something that I brought up, I don't know, maybe it was a year or so ago, was the idea of a music festival? 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:01.240 A porch fest? 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.240 There are other models where this happens. 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:07.240 I know for sure Sacramento, California does it. 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:08.240 Atlanta does it. 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.240 I'm sure there are more. 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:16.240 Where they do a music festival literally on the front porch of homes. 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:23.240 I think it could be an interesting thing to do to showcase some historic homes in Denton. 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:34.240 Over the weekend I had the opportunity to talk to the president of DMACC because I don't -- it's sort of like sort of in our lane, but also not in our lane. 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:41.240 And so I think potentially community partners would be important to pull something like it off. 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:51.240 But a fundraiser for something like DMACC, but something where we could work together to again showcase some historic homes in Denton I think could be interesting. 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:56.240 To increase visibility about what we're doing and why it's important. 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.240 They're very interested in talking about that. 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:06.240 And I think essentially would take a lot of the lead in terms of programming a music festival. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.240 So I don't know. 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.240 That's my pitch. 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.240 I like it, dig it, love it. 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:21.240 Just a thought, since you bring up that area, of course Randy Hunt has the historic Denton. 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.240 They usually do like a tour maybe once a year, right? 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.240 In the spring or is it the fall? 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:28.240 I don't know. 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:29.240 I've never been. 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:30.240 Let me talk to him. 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:36.240 Because that could be a fun thing is to both promote us and our work, right? 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:41.240 Be able to have some handouts and maybe take away literature, right? 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:46.240 DMACC sets up on the porches and then have a little tour of homes externally maybe. 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:50.240 I guess the question would be where are you proposing it be located? 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:51.240 I think that will be. 00:20:51.240 --> 00:21:03.240 I think it would make sense primarily to happen in one of our designated areas. 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:12.240 Or on porches of designated homes if it's not in an area, then individual, but I think the key is that it's walkable from one to another. 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:20.240 And I'm talking four porches, not getting that there could be like a jazz porch and a country porch or whatever. 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:27.240 But I think doing it in one of our walkable kind of over piece would make a lot of sense. 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:28.240 OK. 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:31.240 So we just need three people in favor. 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.240 I'm in favor of it. 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:34.240 I'm in favor. 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:35.240 I think it's great. 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:46.240 So I'll bring my banjo. 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:52.240 I'm going to have to learn the Washtub so we can participate. 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.240 So maybe West Oak or some of the. 00:21:55.240 --> 00:22:02.240 So our three are West Oak, Belle and West Oak isn't actually West Oak. 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:03.240 West Oak is the farther one. 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:04.240 Yes. 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.240 What is the central one? 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:06.240 Okickery. 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.240 Okickery is that central one that you would think. 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.240 Yeah. 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.240 There would be quite central. 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:19.240 Belle is maybe more neighborhood ish and maybe slightly less conducive. 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:25.240 I don't know. 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:26.240 I think yeah. 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.240 Okickery might make the most sense. 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:31.240 My sister also happens to live there. 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:34.240 So there's potentially two porches. 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:35.240 There you go. 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:36.240 Right. 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.240 There are a few side streets. 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:39.240 Right. 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:40.240 Right. 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:41.240 But it's walkable from downtown. 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.240 It's walkable from the university. 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:50.240 So I think that could be a cool. 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.240 And then West Oak feels a little bit again. 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:57.240 Maybe a little bit too disconnected from downtown. 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:01.240 Well, I'll get that added to the matrix and then we can bring that back. 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.240 I'm assuming you'd rather obviously do it sooner than later. 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:10.240 So we can bring it back for next meeting to have that discussion of kind of like what that would look like and some of the partnerships. 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:15.240 Sure. 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:20.240 Cameron, is that something that you're already working on a program for the preservation month? 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.240 But I don't know. 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.240 Maybe too soon. 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.240 But not this year. 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:26.240 Maybe another year. 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:31.240 Maybe there's a lot of this. 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:32.240 I would say I'll do that. 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:40.240 But I'm kind of. 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.240 Of course. 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:43.240 Great. 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:44.240 Good discussion. 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.240 Any other comments, questions? 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.240 Okay. 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.240 Well, now we're getting to concluding items. 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.240 So what are some concluding items? 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:58.240 So today we had our staff have their kickoff meeting for the South Ridge Neighborhood Historic Resource Survey. 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.240 So it went really well. 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.240 The consultant, I think you all, I sent you all an email last week. 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.240 It's SWCA consultants. 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:08.240 Great team to work with. 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:12.240 It's funny, I just found out one of my old colleagues from New York City works for their Northeast region. 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.240 So I was like, oh, okay, hi. 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.240 But so we did the kickoff meeting. 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.240 We had preliminary discussion about community engagement, what that's going to look like. 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:29.240 They are planning to do that towards the end of April for community engagement and kind of that education. 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:36.240 Why it's important to preserve what the point of the historic resource survey is, kind of just get the neighborhood excited. 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:39.240 So just wanted to let you all know about that. 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:44.240 Denton revealed, which is our preservation month here in Denton. 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:51.240 It's our fourth annual this year, which is really exciting during National Preservation Month, which is in the month of May. 00:24:51.240 --> 00:25:02.240 So the city proclamation I'm going to send, Carly is going to send out an invitation for that, but the city proclamation for Denton revealed is going to be the night of April 15th at City Council. 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:08.240 So we'd love to have some of our commissioners show up and support the kind of launch of that. 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:12.240 And usually we make announcements about the different events. 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:15.240 But there's going to be five events this year. 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:21.240 We're kind of scaling it back just because a lot of the Denton revealed team is very busy this year, which is personal things. 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.240 So five events, but all exciting things. 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:37.240 But the first event, and I'll share this once it's kind of all finalized, but we do have Deenia neighborhood, Mr. McAdams, Deenia neighborhood on Saturday, May 3rd. 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:44.240 The two new properties that were designated in September, they want to do a ribbon cutting that morning. 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:54.240 And then they are would love to do a walking tour because they have expressed interest in creating potentially a historic district or a conservation district. 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:58.240 So they want to kind of celebrate the neighborhood to kick off Preservation Month. 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:03.240 So yeah, so kind of they were talking about maybe a little bit of porch fest, too. 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.240 So we'll see. 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:09.240 But that's that update and I'll share more information. 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:16.240 And then tax exemption, I'm sure you guys are like Cameron keeps talking about this tax exemption and it keeps not appearing on the agenda. 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:19.240 Trust me, staff is working on it. 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:26.240 Still having lots of internal discussions, running lots of numbers, just kind of running up the chain of command. 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.240 So it's still we're still working on it. 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:34.240 So that will be coming to you all just because we don't want it to get to a year long either. 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:40.240 So just want to let you all know that that's still working on it. And that's all the updates from staff. 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.240 Awesome. 00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:44.240 May 3rd. 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:52.240 May 3rd. Sorry, May 3rd. 00:26:52.240 --> 00:27:08.240 I love it. 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.240 Well, there's no more discussion. 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:19.240 And after those excellent updates, I'll now adjourn the meeting at five fifty seven. 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.240 Thank you for your service.