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 Okay. All right. Good afternoon. This is the Friday, February 28, 2025 meeting of the Sustainability

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 Framework Advisory Committee being held here at the work session room of the Denton City

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 Hall. Our first item on our agenda today is approval of January 24, 2025 minutes. Any

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 discussion? Any motions? I move to approve. I second. All right. We have a motion to approve

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 and a second. Dr. Meyer and Mr. Richter, all in favor of approval? Aye. All opposed? Nobody's

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 opposed. Okay. Our next item is to receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff

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 direction regarding Electric Lawn Equipment Incentive Pilot Program. Captain Barnett,

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 I'm the Sustainability Manager, Environmental Services and Sustainability. If you can't

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 hear me, just let me know. I might have to give Julie City Yell for me. So we're going

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 to talk about the Electric Lawn Equipment Incentive Program that we proposed in the work plan.

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 It has some general requirements. We reviewed several programs, different states, and it

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 seemed to be pretty consistent. General requirement, battery powered equipment. Then we have some

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 rebate levels that we're proposing, some options, and then a question about disposal of gasoline

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 equipment and the options for that. So the program would be available to DIN residents.

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 It's not going to be tied to DME customer status because this would be framework funding,

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 so it would be all DIN residents. It would be a new battery powered lawn equipment would

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 be eligible. The application, similar to the Green Sense Program, would have to include

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 the detailed receipt, the type of equipment, which is price. Again, like Green Sense, submitted

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 within 90 days of purchase. And then we were considering an additional $50 step up with

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 proof of disposal of a gasoline powered lawn mower, which would be disposed of through

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 the City of DIN. So just the incentive options that we proposed. We saw rebates as low as

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 $50 for lawn mowers, and then up to $100 or more for the string trimmer tool type equipment,

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 with your other few options. So one would be a max of $500, and you can get up to a

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 $300 rebate for a lawn mower with turn in. $250 for one without turning in the gasoline

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 lawn mower, and then up to $100 for the string trimmer lower spas, and $50 for an additional

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 battery. And it would be a combination of rebates up to $500. Second option would be

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 the max of $300, and you can see the 50% and just the lower rebate levels on that option.

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 And then option three would just be a flat rebate, not a 50% of an invoice. It would

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 just be a flat rebate of $100, 50 for the string trimmer, 50 for the mower without turn

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 in, and then 25 for the additional battery. Do y'all have any questions or thoughts about

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 any of those options?

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 I have a question and a comment. So this program involves only battery-operated lawn mower,

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 not the ones that have a cord.

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 Correct.

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 And the reason is, you said, for ease of use and range. But I think if we think better

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 about the environmental impact and sustainability, I think using the battery-operated one does

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 more damage to the environment than just plug it in your lawn mower. So are there any incentives

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 to continue this program with the cord-operated?

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 I have one, and I'm not going to go on about that with me. I'm just thinking.

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 I think that the programs that we've reviewed, I didn't see any that were corded. There's

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 nothing to say that we couldn't have a corded equipment rebate. I understand the concern

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 about the materials and the batteries and the recycling options for the batteries. I

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 think that it's probably more practical, maybe, for the battery for some folks when they're

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 going out with a lawn mower. I think a corded string trimmer is probably a little bit easier

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 for folks to look at, but not opposed to considering it corded.

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 I'd like to echo Dr. Meyer's concern, because I did dig around a little bit on Lowe's and

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 Duplo's website, as I'm sure the staff did too. And there are corded electric lawn equipment.

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 And if I feel the motivation under the sustainability framework is to get something in an incentive

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 program shifting from gasoline, I think we still check that box with corded electric

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 equipment. So I would agree, I think, at least, to adding it to the program could be considered

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 if it still meets the goal of reducing emissions and pollution from gas-powered lawn equipment.

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 I guess to add, though, I was looking at City of Dallas' recently closed incentive program

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 that's similarly structured. And they kind of went with a little bit separate categories.

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 It seemed like they were hitting $100 for a push mower, $200 for a riding, $50 for trimmer

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 and other lawn equipment, and $25 for batteries at flat rebate, which kind of falls largely

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 into our option 3 category. So I looked at that and kind of thought we were doing pretty

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 good, but our base option was matching what Dallas is processing through right now. But

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 then I did go a little bit further and looked at what are the top offerings that your large

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 box retailers offer. So I just added up the top 10 most popular lawn equipment for mowers

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 and trimmers and whatever. And the price gaps for the mowers between electric and gas came

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 out to about $80, electric being a little bit more expensive. And then for the trimmers,

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 most of the electric powered equipment was already anywhere from $50 to about $75 cheaper

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 than the gas powered equipment. So that kind of told me maybe something we look at is structuring

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 a little bit heavier of a weight where there is a larger price difference between the electric

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 and gas power to push that incentive a little bit more if the market's already there in

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 a lot of places for the handheld equipment. So that could be just something to discuss

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 and consider. But given that little dig around, I was leaning for option one or option two

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 in our pricing structure. One question I did have though, knowing that Dallas did have

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 a differential between their types of mowing equipment, do we split a riding versus a push

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 versus a self-propelled mower? Are we kind of capturing that all in one bucket?

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 It's all in one bucket. And then I was wondering too, for the trade-in option, what the implementation

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 of that would look like, how we're recording proof of disposal through the bulk curbside

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 collection. So that's on a future slide that I can tell you. So the City of Denton can

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 pick up a lot more as a bulky item curbside right now. It just has to be drained of all

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 the gas and oil. They could also be dropped off at our home chemical collection site,

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 also drained, talked to Solid Waste about creating just a freedom of disposal that they

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 could give the homeowner to submit whenever they turn one in or have one picked up.

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 And my other question, well two, one real quick, I just don't follow. What does it mean

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 by those max figures? There doesn't have to be a max calendar year or program year that

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 somebody could receive so they couldn't go get three lawn mower remains. I see. All right.

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 Thanks. You probably said that. I just missed it. The other is does the staff or will you

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 at some point get a sense of the, some way quantifying the benefits of this incentive

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 with others in our offering? Because my general sense is this is a pretty good deal because I

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 know a little bit there's a lot of air pollution and noise that comes off of these things and it

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 has a lot of co-benefits that come with it just locally. Is that? And there's some calculators

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 that we can estimate emissions reduction. We can bring that back and we'll talk about the

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 great sense reductions as well. That's coming up next month, I think. I don't think it'll be super

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 precise, but maybe just to see general comparison. Just some estimates, yeah. Catherine, if I may,

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 I was taking around on that because I was interested too and I did find a resource that showed

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 the annual emissions equivalent of lawn usage for Denton County was the particulate matter equivalent

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 of 522,000 cars operating normally in a year. And then another resource was saying the typical

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 emissions of lawn care equipment are often 100 to 120 times higher than a vehicle or a combustion

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 engine vehicle or truck. So this is a really targeted program if the motivation is emissions

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 reduction. Air quality improvement. I mean that that was my general sense. Thank you for the

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 numbers. This could have a real big impact. I'll send you that paper, yeah, that came from there.

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 Thanks for doing the research. Very good. Appreciate it. Any other comments or questions? I think it

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 would be advantageous to add cordage. I've started out with a corded lawnmower and a corded trimmer

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 and got tired of juggling the cords and so we've got the battery and it's a dream.

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 So with that in mind, I would also hope that we could use the largest incentive that we can give,

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 option one. And to back up a little on what Adam said, I think when this program is communicated

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 to the public that we really make a very detailed list of benefits of using electric lawn equipment

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 as opposed to combustion engine. The marketing program. Are there any ideas yet about that? How

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 is it going to be, you know, information in bills or and website? We can use all of the tools that

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 I know they got one lawnmower last year, one electric lawnmower, I think. One electric return.

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 Yeah. And then they're using a lot of the battery power hand tool equipment.

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 So maybe in terms of promotion, some videos could be made of staff actually using big smiles on their

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 face. Absolutely. But I think this is great. And the figures that Bran just gave us really

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 gives even more impetus to to implementing a program like this, I think. One follow-up question

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 looking forward, I remember we had a discussion when we first thought about putting this type

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 of program in the rebate program, looking at commercial entities and incentivizing a transition

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 from gas to electric. And we kind of had mixed signals there. I suppose from a staff perspective,

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 looking at this first year implementation of this type of program and depending on its success or

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 not, if I'd like to return to that discussion maybe at next fiscal, if we want to renew this and

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 consider expanding it for commercial entities since it's not tied to D&E customers exclusively.

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 But I think that's maybe a future discussion to follow up. I think we can leave that on the list

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 for a future discussion. Does anyone else have any feelings about that option? What level?

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 Option one, two, or three. What's the total amount of money that's available?

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 We have $50,000 earmarked for this right now for the pilot.

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 I mean, I lean towards option one. That's kind of why I asked that question just because

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 my general sense is this could have a real big impact. Me too.

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 But I honestly don't know enough. I would also say option one and maybe we treat it

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 similar to the Evike program where we maxed out and we had to do some reshifting if the program

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 was really successful. But maybe we cross that bridge when we get there. We can revisit absolutely

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 if we find we're bumping up against that. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's great.

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 I will let you know that in my conversations with Lowe's about their bond equipment,

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 about 75% of what they have on the shelves now is electric.

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 So that market uptake has really started to make a noticeable difference.

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 Any more discussion? Do you need any more from us? Okay, thank you very much.

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 Let's see what we have next.

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 The next item is to receive a report and hold a discussion regarding

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 State of Texas energy efficiency rebate programs.

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 From me again. So just a little bit of an update.

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 So we're just going to talk a little bit about the energy efficiency rebates that

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 the State Energy Conservation Office has been awarded. There's two programs,

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 the Home Efficiency Rebates or the HOMES program and then the Home Electrification Rebate program

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 or the HEAR program. So HOMES incentivizes whole home retrofits. It's for single family or multi

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 family. It's available to any income level. But this is where the low income, moderate income

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 hasn't benefited. The readout amounts are doubled for low or moderate income households.

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 And this program does stack with our Green Sense rebates. So you could qualify for a

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 Green Sense rebate and it wouldn't reduce your HOMES rebate.

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 So the readout amounts are determined based on energy savings calculated

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 or modeled. And for the energy savings between 20% up to 34%, low income will receive a $4,000

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 dollar rebate or up to 80%. All other is $2,000 or up to 50%. And then the $200 for multi-family.

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 So there is a benefit for multi-family with these as well. And then energy savings greater

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 than 35%. It's a double readout amount, so $80,000 and $4,000. The measured savings pathway,

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 it's for proven kilowatt hour reduction equivalent and that would be $4,000 for 20% and $2,000 for

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 anything below that. The HEAR rebate program is the Appliance Rebate program that we've talked

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 about before. This would be available to low or moderate income. The owners of multi-family

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 units could also use that with greater or equal to 50% LMI. So any government commercial or

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 non-profit entity carrying out the qualified project on behalf of the event can also qualify.

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 The income eligibility determines the percentage of the cost covered

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 and it will also stack with rebates. And these are the rebates that they hope to have point of sale

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 so there wouldn't be the initial cost to the homeowner or to the applicant.

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 And the rebate levels are listed there. So it will get into the appliances in the home. It gets into

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 the breaker box improvements, wiring. So it gets into the home improvements necessary to have more

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 electric appliances. So with this program, the state was hoping to have them launched

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 and applications available this summer. These have gotten caught up in the funding freeze.

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 So we are monitoring the state. We're monitoring the federal level of funding. We saw some funding

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 was released just this week for some Pennsylvania projects. So we're hopeful that these will be

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 funded. These are direct to homeowner, property owner improvements to lower energy bills.

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 So I'm very hopeful that these will be released and can start being paid this summer.

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 Question? Sorry if I missed this, but it's a state program, but is this federal funds coming

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 through the state? Yes. States were allocated funding through for these programs. They had to

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 submit an application and a plan for how to use the funding. Texas has been approved.

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 It was approved in December I believe. And so we're just waiting on funding to be made available.

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 And was this through the IRA? Yes. Okay so when you said it's caught up in the funding freeze,

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 it's the federal? The federal funding freeze, yes. There was an allocation to each state. Some

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 states chose not to use the program. And so right now we're kind of limbo as we. Yes.

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 But do you know of any campaigns on the part of municipalities or states that are lobbying

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 for the unfreezing of these funds? Or is it just a wait and see situation?

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 I have not seen one specific to these two programs. I thought that I didn't know if that would tie in

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 with another item that was going to be discussed regarding lobbying in Austin. Perhaps I don't know

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 the niceties of it. But if that were made a part of the city's ask for the legislature the importance

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 of stuff like this. Yes I know some of the states are definitely involved with asking for those funds

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 to be released since it's going directly to the state and not to the cities. A little bit of a

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 go-between there. Thank you. Any other? That's anything. Okay thank you very much.

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 Okay next we have staff reports.

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 Do you have some memos from your backup and the matrix? Do you have any questions on any of those?

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 So you're including all

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 follow-up memo, the 89th state legislative program, and the matrix.

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 Do you want comments on that? Yes if you have any questions or comments. Anybody?

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 On the memorandum on the matrix follow-up,

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 I was just curious as to whether since the city has not done its own risk assessment

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 of city infrastructure, are there plans for the city to do such a risk assessment rather than

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 under the umbrella, large umbrella that it is now under the Denton County Emergency Management

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 Department. So I would like to know if there are any potential plans to do our own risk

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 When I went to our website, as we all know under air quality and greenhouse gases, there's a link

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 to the Department of Energy climate change resources. And I don't think it's the website

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 that we want as a resource now. Climate change is couched simply in terms of its dangers to the

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 fossil fuel industry. Any links to renewable energy that are on the site take you back to the welcome

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 to the website page. All of this stuff has been scrubbed. So I think it's imperative that we get

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 that off the website and put up some useful information. And along those lines, there is a

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 I don't know if you've seen this, it's called the world's littlest book on climate change,

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 which can be downloaded for free off the website. It's just facts. Very easy, very educational.

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 There's another book which I neglected to bring which I can send you all in an email. But I think

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 this it's imperative that you start looking at some good information about climate change,

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 what people can do, frequently asked questions, situations like that. And I'll finish this up with

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 when the city decided to resurrect its integrated pest management plan to use

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 as much organic pesticides and herbicides in the parks.

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 We went to Austin's IPM program and a committee was formed to do this under

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 Laura Behrens. And Ms. Behrens said we're going to use the Austin

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 plan as a template, but the difference is going to be that our plan is going to be better.

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 And it is. So I would also suggest using a template such as Austin's or San Antonio's,

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 especially Austin's in terms of community outreach for information about climate change.

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 I think we should use that as a model and make it better just like we did with the IPM plan.

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 So that's my all I have to say.

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 You know obviously this is one more thing, pardon me, tying this in with the climate action plan.

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 I mean how many people know we have a climate action plan and what it's hopefully going to do?

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 Putting out as much information as we can that is going to help

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 Denton reach its goal of net zero by 2050. That to me is the target date and everything

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 that we put out should be geared toward reaching that. Now I'm finished.

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 Okay. So does that bring us to anybody have anything they want to add to the matrix?

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 No? Okay. Well that brings us to the end of the meeting. So there are a motion to adjourn.

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 May, motion made. Seconded.

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 Motion made and seconded to adjourn. So we'll see everyone next month. Thank you.