WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.640 Good afternoon. 00:00:04.640 --> 00:00:07.120 Welcome to the planning and zoning work session. 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:12.120 Unfortunately, we do not have quorum, so we will not be convening the work session. 00:00:12.120 --> 00:00:17.960 However, we will convene the regularly scheduled meeting at 6.30 p.m. tonight in the council 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:22.960 chamber. 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:34.240 Good evening, and welcome to the January 29th meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:39.780 at 6.30 p.m. tonight. 00:00:39.780 --> 00:00:44.280 I will call this meeting to order, and our first order of business is the Pledge of Allegiance 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:49.280 to the U.S. and Texas flag. 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:55.920 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:02.800 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:02.800 --> 00:01:20.200 On the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state, under God, one indivisible. 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:27.640 Our next order of business is item 2A, PZ25002, consider approval of the January 15th planning 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:28.920 and zoning meeting minutes. 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:31.880 I have a motion from Commissioner Villarreal. 00:01:31.880 --> 00:01:34.280 >> Move approval. 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.880 >> And Commissioner Padron. 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:38.860 >> Second. 00:01:38.860 --> 00:01:39.860 >> Thank you. 00:01:39.860 --> 00:01:50.200 Let's vote on the board. 00:01:50.200 --> 00:02:01.180 That brings our consent agenda, and all of these are moving forward. 00:02:01.180 --> 00:02:08.080 Item 3A, B, and C, and there's a motion from Commissioner Villarreal. 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.000 >> Move approval. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.000 >> Commissioner Riggs. 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.160 >> Second. 00:02:15.160 --> 00:02:17.360 >> Any questions on the items? 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:18.360 Okay. 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:26.040 And let's vote on the board. 00:02:26.040 --> 00:02:36.360 That brings up item 4A, FR250001, I think we will have Sean Jacobson up to present. 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.840 >> Good evening, Chair and members of the Planning and Zoning Commission. 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:42.880 I'll just pull up my presentation here. 00:02:42.880 --> 00:02:43.880 Okay. 00:02:43.880 --> 00:02:44.880 No. 00:02:44.880 --> 00:02:46.920 That is definitely not it. 00:02:46.920 --> 00:02:47.920 One moment. 00:02:47.920 --> 00:02:48.920 Okay. 00:02:48.920 --> 00:02:49.920 There we are. 00:02:49.920 --> 00:02:56.920 Apologies. 00:02:56.920 --> 00:03:23.320 There we go. 00:03:23.320 --> 00:03:27.240 Okay. 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:31.760 Sorry about that. 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:39.360 So this is a plat of the Glenwood Meadows additional replat, essentially to remove floodplain, 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:42.040 to acknowledge that floodplain has been removed from these lots. 00:03:42.040 --> 00:03:47.280 It is not fully satisfactory of our criteria yet, and so staff is recommending denial. 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:51.800 We have no objection to the request for an extension, which could be to a date certain 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.560 of February 26th. 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:56.500 Happy to answer any questions. 00:03:56.500 --> 00:04:00.880 >> Any questions? 00:04:00.880 --> 00:04:01.880 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:04:01.880 --> 00:04:02.880 >> Move approval. 00:04:02.880 --> 00:04:06.960 The extension request to a date certain of February 26th, 2025. 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:08.680 >> And Commissioner Pedrone. 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:09.680 >> Second. 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:17.760 >> Let's vote on the board. 00:04:17.760 --> 00:04:36.760 Next is item 4B, FR25-0003. 00:04:36.760 --> 00:04:55.000 Go ahead, Matt, when you're ready. 00:04:55.000 --> 00:05:07.280 >> Good evening, Commission. 00:05:07.280 --> 00:05:15.480 This is a replat for a lot located on the east side of Mosh Branch Road, about 600 feet 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:16.480 south of US-380. 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:24.600 It's a 9.4 acre lot, purpose to establish and abandon some public as well as private 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.160 easements. 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:29.480 At this moment, it does not meet our criteria for approval. 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:34.760 So staff is recommending denial, but has no objection to their first extension request 00:05:34.760 --> 00:05:37.560 to a date certain of February 26th. 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:39.440 >> Thank you. 00:05:39.440 --> 00:05:42.800 I understand any questions or a motion. 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:43.800 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:44.800 >> Move approval. 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.680 The extension request to a date certain of February 26th, 2025. 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:49.680 >> Commissioner Pedrone. 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:50.680 >> Second. 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:51.680 >> Any questions? 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:52.680 Let's vote on board. 00:05:52.680 --> 00:06:14.440 That passes 4-0, brings us to item 4D, sorry, 4C, FP25-0005 also from Matt. 00:06:14.440 --> 00:06:31.600 Excuse the number, but this is a final plat for a proximally 16.4 acre lot in the city's 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:36.880 ETJ off of FM-8030 south of Country Club Road. 00:06:36.880 --> 00:06:43.800 Its purpose to establish 15 lots, 13 of them being single family residential. 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:45.800 It does not meet the criteria for approval. 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:55.220 However, staff has no objection to their first extension request. 00:06:55.220 --> 00:06:57.180 >> Any questions or entertain a motion? 00:06:57.180 --> 00:06:58.180 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:06:58.180 --> 00:06:59.180 >> Move approval. 00:06:59.180 --> 00:07:02.240 The extension request to a date certain of February 26th, 2025. 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:03.240 >> Commissioner Pedrone. 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:04.720 >> I second. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:13.800 Let's vote on the board. 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:24.640 That motion passes 4-0, brings us to item 4D, FP25-0001, Mia Hines, good evening. 00:07:24.640 --> 00:07:33.880 >> Good evening, Chair, members of the commission. 00:07:33.880 --> 00:07:42.680 This item, FP25-0001 is a final plat for Hickory Grove Phase 3, which is located south of Jackson 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:43.680 Road. 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.920 The first two phases were located north of Western University, so just south of this 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.400 phase, approximately 1,800 feet west of Thomas J. Egan. 00:07:53.400 --> 00:07:57.720 At this time, the plat does not meet all of our criteria for approval, so we are recommending 00:07:57.720 --> 00:07:58.720 denial. 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:05.440 We have no objection to the requested extension to a date certain of February 26th, 2025, 00:08:05.440 --> 00:08:07.280 and this would be their first extension. 00:08:07.280 --> 00:08:12.900 At this time, I'll take any questions you have. 00:08:12.900 --> 00:08:14.280 >> Questions or motion? 00:08:14.280 --> 00:08:15.280 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:08:15.280 --> 00:08:16.280 >> Move approval. 00:08:16.280 --> 00:08:19.040 The extension request to a date certain of February 26th, 2025. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.040 >> Commissioner Pedrone. 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.640 >> I second. 00:08:21.640 --> 00:08:28.080 >> Let's vote on the board. 00:08:28.080 --> 00:08:35.600 That motion passes 4-0, brings us to item 4E, FP25-0003. 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:36.600 >> Good evening. 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:42.160 Julie Wyatt, principal planner, and I am presenting this plat to you for the prestige at May Hill. 00:08:42.160 --> 00:08:44.840 It is for a final plat. 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:49.080 Staff is currently recommending denial because they have some items that they need to correct 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:52.080 prior to approval. 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.960 The property is located just east of May Hill Road on the north side of Edwards. 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:02.120 The purpose of the plat is to -- for a single lot for a multifamily development. 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:07.640 I'll be happy to answer any questions. 00:09:07.640 --> 00:09:08.640 >> I had one. 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:09.640 Julie. 00:09:09.640 --> 00:09:10.640 >> Yes. 00:09:10.640 --> 00:09:11.640 >> Just -- I'm sorry. 00:09:11.640 --> 00:09:14.640 It wasn't this one. 00:09:14.640 --> 00:09:16.560 >> Oh, okay. 00:09:16.560 --> 00:09:22.640 >> Any questions or a motion? 00:09:22.640 --> 00:09:23.640 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:09:23.640 --> 00:09:27.880 >> Approval of the extension request to date certain February 26th, 2025. 00:09:27.880 --> 00:09:30.880 >> And Commissioner Riggs. 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:33.080 >> Second. 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:41.800 >> Let's vote on the board. 00:09:41.800 --> 00:09:47.840 That passes 4-0, brings up item 4F, FP24-0042. 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.040 >> All right. 00:09:50.040 --> 00:09:51.520 Once again, Julie Wyatt. 00:09:51.520 --> 00:09:55.280 This one actually should have been on the consent agenda because they actually addressed 00:09:55.280 --> 00:10:01.560 all of our comments prior to the agenda posting, so I do apologize, but we'll go ahead and 00:10:01.560 --> 00:10:03.040 talk about it. 00:10:03.040 --> 00:10:07.560 The property is located at the intersection of Loop 288 and McKinney. 00:10:07.560 --> 00:10:13.960 They are proposing to develop the lot with a commercial use, a car wash, actually, and 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:15.820 it is a final plat for the property. 00:10:15.820 --> 00:10:20.760 They have addressed all of staff's technical requirements, and so we do recommend approval 00:10:20.760 --> 00:10:24.600 of this final plat. 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:25.600 >> Thank you. 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:31.520 Any questions or a motion? 00:10:31.520 --> 00:10:32.520 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:10:32.520 --> 00:10:35.000 >> With approval. 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.000 >> Commissioner Pedron. 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.600 >> Second. 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:45.960 >> And let's vote on the board. 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:51.680 That item passes 4-0, which brings us to our last item for individual consideration. 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:54.200 Item 4G, FP25-0004. 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.240 >> All right. 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.360 So this is my last plat tonight. 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.920 This is a final plat for the Kingsway subdivision. 00:11:01.920 --> 00:11:04.360 It's a single family residential subdivision. 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:12.800 It is located on the northeast side of Loop 288, and this is the final phase of that subdivision. 00:11:12.800 --> 00:11:14.120 It is a final plat. 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:18.320 We do recommend denial because they do have some items that they need to work through, 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.280 but we have no objection to the requested extension. 00:11:21.280 --> 00:11:25.860 I'll be happy to answer any questions. 00:11:25.860 --> 00:11:34.520 >> Any questions on this one or a motion? 00:11:34.520 --> 00:11:35.520 Commissioner Pedron. 00:11:35.520 --> 00:11:45.680 >> Move approval to grant the extension to date certain of February 26, February 26. 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:47.400 >> And Commissioner Rieks. 00:11:47.400 --> 00:11:48.760 >> Second. 00:11:48.760 --> 00:11:59.880 >> Let's vote on the board. 00:11:59.880 --> 00:12:05.600 Item passes 3-0, sorry, 3-1. 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:19.540 Brings us to our one public hearing of the evening, item 5A, AMPC24-0001B. 00:12:19.540 --> 00:12:21.960 I will go ahead and open the public hearing at this time. 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.280 >> Good evening, Chair and members of the commission. 00:12:25.280 --> 00:12:29.760 This is Angie Manglaris, Development Review Manager, here to present Coal Ranch Masterplan 00:12:29.760 --> 00:12:32.440 Community, a major amendment. 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.280 So a little bit about this request. 00:12:34.280 --> 00:12:38.680 This request is to amend a portion of the Coal Ranch Masterplan Community development 00:12:38.680 --> 00:12:43.600 map, effectively rezoning portions of the Masterplan Community from a light industrial 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:50.040 and residential 7 base zoning district to a mixed-use neighborhood, mixed-use regional, 00:12:50.040 --> 00:12:53.600 residential 4 and residential 6 base zoning districts. 00:12:53.600 --> 00:13:00.040 The approximately 3,169-acre Coal Ranch Masterplan Community is generally located in the southwestern 00:13:00.040 --> 00:13:07.400 part of the city, is located west of Interstate 35W, south of Tom Cole Road, and is bisected 00:13:07.400 --> 00:13:10.400 by FM2449. 00:13:10.400 --> 00:13:12.280 Zoning in the vicinity is varied. 00:13:12.280 --> 00:13:16.760 To the south and southeast is in the Landmark Masterplan Community. 00:13:16.760 --> 00:13:21.140 There are residential uses to the west, north, and northwest, both in the city limits as 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:24.140 well as in the extraterritorial jurisdiction. 00:13:24.140 --> 00:13:29.360 And then public facilities and industrial uses are situated to the northeast of the subject 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:30.360 property. 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:36.680 Today, the subject property is predominantly pasture with farm and ranch-related structures. 00:13:36.680 --> 00:13:42.320 There are also some active gas well pads, stands of mature trees, and areas of confirmed 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.320 and potential environmentally sensitive areas. 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:50.380 The purpose of this request is to reduce the total land area in the light industrial base 00:13:50.380 --> 00:13:55.960 zoning district to reduce conflict between areas of light industrial and residential 00:13:55.960 --> 00:14:01.440 development as well as to align the base zoning map with the internal land plan and infrastructure. 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.840 The primary area of change you can see here on your screen is generally located west of 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:11.160 Future Loop 288 and north of FM2499. 00:14:11.160 --> 00:14:16.120 This request does not alter the maximum allowable single-family and multi-family units that 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.680 are approved with the Coal Ranch Master Plan Community, which is 5,900 single-family units 00:14:20.680 --> 00:14:24.440 and 3,200 multi-family units. 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.480 This table is a little bit helpful to see the areas of change. 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:35.080 The reduction in light industrial is approximately 316 acres and 17 acres reduction in residential 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:36.080 seven. 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:41.240 Predominantly, that land area is being redistributed to mixed-use neighborhood and mixed-use regional. 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.600 However, there are also some slight increases in the total land area in residential six 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.600 and residential four base zoning districts. 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:54.600 This request was approved against the criteria for approval as outlined in the Coal Ranch 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.160 MPC. 00:14:56.160 --> 00:15:00.360 Staff does find it consistent with the Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan as well as the adopted 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:01.360 MPC. 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:06.960 In addition, it is not anticipated to generate any adverse impacts and adequate road systems 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:11.720 and public facilities are available to serve the development and are outlined in the various 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.080 operating and project agreements associated with Coal Ranch. 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.520 A little bit more about the Comprehensive Plan. 00:15:18.520 --> 00:15:22.840 The Comprehensive Plan does designate this area as Master Plan Community as you can see 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:24.560 here on your map. 00:15:24.560 --> 00:15:27.960 This applies to our large-scale developments that are guided by separate approvals within 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:29.200 the city. 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:33.160 The total land area as part of this request remains unchanged, so the total amount of 00:15:33.160 --> 00:15:38.160 land area in the Coal Ranch MPC stays the same, although the base zoning districts are 00:15:38.160 --> 00:15:40.520 shifting a little bit. 00:15:40.520 --> 00:15:46.160 At the time of adoption, the Comprehensive Plan did recognize that some areas zoned MPC 00:15:46.160 --> 00:15:51.480 may not reflect future needs, and this request is consistent with Action Item 211, which 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:56.320 calls to establish a process to facilitate revisions to the land use mix of approved 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:57.640 MPCs. 00:15:57.640 --> 00:16:03.640 This request specifically is consistent with generating compact and mixed-use developments 00:16:03.640 --> 00:16:09.520 as well as allowing for a mix of housing types, specifically by rezoning portions of the MPC 00:16:09.520 --> 00:16:15.440 from LI to the MN and MR as you see along the future Loop 288. 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:20.960 Additionally, the Coal Ranch Master Plan Community is consistent with the population projections 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:28.040 in the 2040 Comprehensive Plan, which calls for an additional approximately 37,000 housing 00:16:28.040 --> 00:16:29.040 units. 00:16:29.040 --> 00:16:34.440 Again, the Coal Ranch Master Plan Community will contain no more than 5,900 single-family 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.700 units and 3,200 multi-family units. 00:16:37.700 --> 00:16:43.320 This is also consistent with Goal HN1, which calls to develop and maintain a diverse housing 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:50.200 stock to meet the price point, location, and choice and type for residents. 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:54.000 The Preferred Land Preservation Plan does show several areas of confirmed and potential 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:59.280 ESA development can occur in a manner that's consistent with the Preferred Land Preservation 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:04.320 Plan by following the ESA standards as outlined in the Coal Ranch MPC, which calls for development 00:17:04.320 --> 00:17:10.080 in accordance in the same manner that the Denton Development Code does, preserving those areas. 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:13.680 Public outreach was conducted in accordance with state law and the Denton Development 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:14.760 Code. 00:17:14.760 --> 00:17:19.240 Public notices were mailed as well as posted in the newspaper and the website. 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:23.360 At this time, no responses have been received in opposition in favor or neutral. 00:17:23.360 --> 00:17:29.520 The applicant did hold a neighborhood meeting in December of 2024, and staff is recommending 00:17:29.520 --> 00:17:34.240 approval as this is consistent with the criteria for approval within the Coal Ranch MPC. 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.040 The next steps for this project would be a public hearing at City Council on February 00:17:38.040 --> 00:17:39.040 18th. 00:17:39.040 --> 00:17:42.440 I'm happy to answer any questions you all may have, and the applicant is also here who 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.360 can answer questions you may have. 00:17:46.360 --> 00:17:50.480 Any questions from the commission? 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:52.280 I've got one, Angie. 00:17:52.280 --> 00:18:00.160 Could you, for the benefit of those up here, explain how the zoning designations within 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:12.080 this MPC overlay with the limits of the number of homes within each type that is also a limitation 00:18:12.080 --> 00:18:13.080 within the MPC? 00:18:13.080 --> 00:18:19.600 Does that make sense, as far as the number of units that can be built? 00:18:19.600 --> 00:18:20.600 Sure. 00:18:20.600 --> 00:18:27.800 I think maybe I follow, but are you asking for me to explain how the MPC dictates those? 00:18:27.800 --> 00:18:37.780 Just in a normal zoning case, we understand that the density and number of units is limited 00:18:37.780 --> 00:18:43.920 by height and setbacks within a particular zoning district, as well as building coverage. 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:49.120 This is a little bit different, because there's an additional cap, is my understanding. 00:18:49.120 --> 00:18:55.320 Could you explain how that additional cap works with this request? 00:18:55.320 --> 00:19:01.280 I think so, so this might help just as we talk a little bit. 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:06.080 The land area is shifting within the master plan community. 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:11.400 Within the coal ranch MPC, all of the zoning districts apart from light industrial do allow 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:18.880 for some residential use, be that multifamily townhome or single family. 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:24.200 The number of units that are allowed are capped in the coal ranch MPC as part of that adopting 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:29.360 ordinance and is also outlined in their operating and project agreements. 00:19:29.360 --> 00:19:34.280 While the overall distribution of the base zoning districts is shifting, those unit counts 00:19:34.280 --> 00:19:40.600 are not also increasing with the increased land in MR and MN, which allow for residential 00:19:40.600 --> 00:19:41.600 uses. 00:19:41.600 --> 00:19:46.720 Effectively, that would make the overall density of the development slightly less than what 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:52.000 it was when it was initially adopted, just based on how the land area is distributed. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.080 It's much different than a typical zoning case, which does not typically have these 00:19:55.080 --> 00:19:56.080 normal caps. 00:19:56.080 --> 00:20:01.880 If you were to zone to RR, you would be limited to those lot sizes, and that would dictate 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:05.920 the number of houses essentially, but they're very different than a normal zoning case. 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:09.360 Typically, we wouldn't have that associated with it unless it was something like a plan 00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:11.720 development where you're adopting that site plan. 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:12.720 Okay. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:13.720 Thank you. 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:18.980 Is there a cap for commercial development or industrial development similar to the number 00:20:18.980 --> 00:20:21.160 of units of residential? 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:22.160 No. 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:27.520 I'm not aware of any cap that would limit the number of commercial or industrial developments. 00:20:27.520 --> 00:20:30.800 Just they'd have to be situated in the land area that allows for it. 00:20:30.800 --> 00:20:31.800 Okay. 00:20:31.800 --> 00:20:32.800 Thank you. 00:20:32.800 --> 00:20:33.800 Any other questions? 00:20:33.800 --> 00:20:38.040 I just have one question, and it's related to the public meeting. 00:20:38.040 --> 00:20:39.640 Did anybody come to the public meeting? 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.800 It looks like there wasn't any response to the- 00:20:42.800 --> 00:20:43.800 No. 00:20:43.800 --> 00:20:47.200 There were no attendees at the neighborhood meeting apart from those on the applicant's 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.680 team, and they can speak more to that if you need more information. 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.920 No, that's good. 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.760 Okay. 00:20:55.760 --> 00:20:56.760 This is a public hearing. 00:20:56.760 --> 00:21:02.120 First of all, I don't have a card, but if the applicant would like to speak, you're 00:21:02.120 --> 00:21:03.120 welcome to. 00:21:03.120 --> 00:21:05.600 We can fill out a card afterwards. 00:21:05.600 --> 00:21:15.160 Mr. Chairman, members of the Planning and Zoning Commission, my name is O.C. Vest, and 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:21.560 I'm the project manager for the Coal Ranch Company and for the Coal Ranch Project. 00:21:21.560 --> 00:21:26.720 I think Angie's done a wonderful job analyzing the application and the request, and I really 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:31.600 don't have anything to add to that except that we're here and happy to answer any questions 00:21:31.600 --> 00:21:36.360 that you might have. 00:21:36.360 --> 00:21:46.040 It's a quiet evening. 00:21:46.040 --> 00:21:51.600 I'll ask one, I'm sorry, Mr. Vest. 00:21:51.600 --> 00:21:52.600 Vest. 00:21:52.600 --> 00:21:53.600 Vest. 00:21:53.600 --> 00:21:57.600 It's a quiet evening, and my ears are not quite working well. 00:21:57.600 --> 00:22:09.280 I also totally understand the strange oddity of the LI adjacent to residential before. 00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:15.120 Can you speak to, I don't know how long you've been on the project, can you speak to what 00:22:15.120 --> 00:22:18.160 the rationale was for having that originally? 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.120 It makes sense to me to convert away from that, but I think I'd understand better if 00:22:22.120 --> 00:22:24.160 I understood what the original plan was. 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:25.160 Does that make sense? 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:26.160 Sure. 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:27.160 I think that's a great question. 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:34.160 I've been on the project now for 15 years, so it has gone through a bit of a metamorphosis 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:36.540 over time. 00:22:36.540 --> 00:22:44.320 The light industrial zoning was an idea that the Coal family had as a land use because 00:22:44.320 --> 00:22:48.000 they're in the light industrial business. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:55.720 The family also owns a business park called ILC West that's in northern Fort Worth next 00:22:55.720 --> 00:23:03.200 to the BNSF Intermodal, and they've got about 1,200 acres there that is light industrial. 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:09.980 What we've learned over time with that project is what light industrial really means in this 00:23:09.980 --> 00:23:14.720 area of DFW these days is distribution warehouse, right? 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:21.280 It's all about online shopping and the increased amount of distribution that's necessary for 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:24.200 that, which is great. 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:30.640 The only drawback to distribution warehouse is it generates a lot of trucks. 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.880 It's 24 hours a day, seven days a week. 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:41.760 There is some residential that's coming in next to the Fort Worth project where we have 00:23:41.760 --> 00:23:43.920 that business park. 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:51.680 What we've seen is that truck traffic and the residential traffic is a bad mix because 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:57.180 the truck traffic just never lets up, and then during the peak times when people are 00:23:57.180 --> 00:24:03.920 going to work, going to school, coming home, there's a lot of conflicts. 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:09.080 Because they have that light industrial park in Fort Worth, they felt like we don't want 00:24:09.080 --> 00:24:14.400 to make that mistake here, so we've got plenty as a family, we have plenty of light industrial 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:23.200 land to develop, let's pull that out of Coal Ranch and just make that area residential, 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.560 but not ask for any additional units. 00:24:26.560 --> 00:24:31.880 What that allows us to do, as Angie pointed out, is it allows us to lower the density in 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:32.880 areas. 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:38.680 If you go back and look at some of the original documentation for Coal Ranch in the original 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:46.000 NPC, there's over 1,000 acres of open space, so it's going to allow us to do some lot 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:53.280 sizes that are bigger than what the builder appetite has been for the last few years. 00:24:53.280 --> 00:24:59.000 The builder appetite has been give us 40 foot lots, give us 50 foot lots, we're going to 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:04.680 be able to produce lot sizes much bigger than that. 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:09.160 With 3,000 acres, it's a 20 plus year project. 00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:16.760 We need the diversity and product type in order to have a well-rounded master plan community, 00:25:16.760 --> 00:25:20.920 and that means a wide range of residential products. 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:26.240 It's really the safety, what we learned from the light industrial project in Fort Worth, 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:36.680 that really spurred us to move to ask for this change. 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:44.040 I noticed that there's more MR zoning adjacent to the future WIP 288. 00:25:44.040 --> 00:25:51.280 Does that play into a desire to have buildable land available for more commercial uses along 00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:58.600 that corridor or is that moving some of the higher density residential closer to there? 00:25:58.600 --> 00:25:59.600 What's the thought? 00:25:59.600 --> 00:26:00.600 Both. 00:26:00.600 --> 00:26:01.600 Okay. 00:26:01.600 --> 00:26:09.360 As you probably guessed, like we have, loop 288 corridor is going to provide an increased 00:26:09.360 --> 00:26:16.040 commercial capability we don't have today, and then that intersection with FM 2449 is 00:26:16.040 --> 00:26:19.120 also very important commercially. 00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:26.000 We wanted to give that the best opportunity as possible to create more mixed use, like 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.280 we're doing with our phase one. 00:26:28.280 --> 00:26:35.240 With our phase one, which is the MR area in the northeast corner there, we've got a pretty 00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:43.600 wide range of products there, including mixed use commercial and restaurants and uses like 00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:46.440 that, other non-residential uses. 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:52.840 We really like the MR capability to allow us to do that mixed use in an area where we 00:26:52.840 --> 00:26:56.720 think it'll actually work right here. 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:57.720 Any other questions? 00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:58.720 Okay. 00:26:58.720 --> 00:26:59.720 Thank you. 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:00.720 You bet. 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:08.320 This is a public hearing, so if anyone else would like to speak on this item, you're welcome 00:27:08.320 --> 00:27:14.660 to come down and fill out a card later. 00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:19.440 Not seeing any movement, I will close the public hearing. 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:41.160 Open the floor for discussion or questions for staff or motion. 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:50.520 Commissioner Villarreal. 00:27:50.520 --> 00:27:51.520 Commissioner Riggs? 00:27:51.520 --> 00:27:52.520 Second. 00:27:52.520 --> 00:27:53.520 All right. 00:27:53.520 --> 00:28:01.040 It's a quiet group tonight, like I said before. 00:28:01.040 --> 00:28:08.120 I think it's interesting to see the difference in dynamic between an MPC amendment and as 00:28:08.120 --> 00:28:13.280 any case, closer to where there's existing development. 00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:21.000 It looks to me like we're going to allow for, there's no guarantee that it would happen, 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:28.780 more of a retail sort of strip center, if you can think of, between on the other side 00:28:28.780 --> 00:28:35.040 of Loop 288 that exists, that's not a freeway. 00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:41.520 And I'll recall, gosh, maybe a year ago now, when we were looking at this West Denton area 00:28:41.520 --> 00:28:47.880 with lots of muds coming in west of here, that without an outlet to allow development 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:54.120 to have a place for that, we would essentially be forcing all of the residential development 00:28:54.120 --> 00:29:01.480 west I-35 to cross east of I-35 under a bridge that's not widened yet. 00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:09.080 And even once it is, it'll be too small, because we all live seven miles away from everything. 00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:14.120 So hopefully this will be able to distribute some more things around, even though it's 00:29:14.120 --> 00:29:18.760 very much of a corridor plan, I doubt it'll be mixed use, it'll be a strip mall. 00:29:18.760 --> 00:29:22.340 But if that's what's demanded, that's what's demanded. 00:29:22.340 --> 00:29:26.280 Any other questions or comments? 00:29:26.280 --> 00:29:34.360 I will call for a vote on the floor. 00:29:34.360 --> 00:29:37.920 That item passes 4-0. 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:53.760 That brings us to our item 6A, Planning and Zoning Commission Matrix Report, Tina. 00:29:53.760 --> 00:29:59.700 Thank you, Chair Perot. 00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:04.680 So just wanted to bring to your attention a couple of updates that we made to the matrix. 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.280 There were no items that were requested from the commission, but I did add two items to 00:30:10.280 --> 00:30:12.520 the matrix for your benefit. 00:30:12.520 --> 00:30:16.600 So one of the things is, what we would like to do is share with you some of the projects 00:30:16.600 --> 00:30:20.120 that our team has been working on, kind of more behind the scenes. 00:30:20.120 --> 00:30:25.640 Some of these projects, you may not necessarily have a role in, but just wanted to let you 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:30.960 know what we are working on, because they are associated with implementation of our 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:35.760 Denton 2040 Comprehensive Plan, as well as our Southeast Denton Area Plan, and our Design 00:30:35.760 --> 00:30:39.760 Downtown Denton Plan, in addition to council strategic initiatives. 00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:43.800 So I thought you all might benefit from receiving that information. 00:30:43.800 --> 00:30:48.660 And then also, we're going to go ahead and start doing our PNZ boot camps for a couple 00:30:48.660 --> 00:30:51.800 of you that have been on the commission, maybe a little longer, you know, will -- we have 00:30:51.800 --> 00:30:57.320 a series of topics that we will do presentations to the commission, typically during that work 00:30:57.320 --> 00:31:05.760 session, and I'll -- can I maybe get -- Angie, can I maybe get your help? 00:31:05.760 --> 00:31:06.760 Thank you. 00:31:06.760 --> 00:31:11.840 So -- but anyway, so we do these PNZ boot camp presentations. 00:31:11.840 --> 00:31:13.360 They're more done in work session. 00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:18.880 They're more informational purposes, just kind of -- I wanted to say maybe a little 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:23.480 higher than a Planning 101 -- thank you, Angie -- a little more higher than a Planning 101 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:31.040 class, but just -- we do this so that from time to time, we all have a refresher on the 00:31:31.040 --> 00:31:35.000 regulations associated with some of the efforts or the types of applications that the commission 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.000 may see. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:42.040 So you'll start seeing us getting those scheduled more regularly during your work sessions. 00:31:42.040 --> 00:31:46.320 The other thing I'll make note on the Matrix, I did tweak one item, the second line item 00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:50.760 in the Matrix, with the LSR explaining the practices and legal limitations associated 00:31:50.760 --> 00:31:56.440 with state law changes, so I just noted that that will provide an update at a future date. 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:02.240 I know it's on Hillary's radar, so -- because we remind her from time to time, so but anyway, 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.440 so just wanted to update the timeframe that was on that. 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.400 In terms of council action on any planning items, since your last Planning and Zoning 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.720 Commission meeting, there have been none, so nothing to report on that front. 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:18.000 And then, wanted to also follow up with the commission, just bring to your attention, 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:23.200 so on February 12th, that is when we will be doing our CIAC, our Capital Improvements 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.360 Advisory Committee. 00:32:24.360 --> 00:32:27.360 If you recall, you all serve in that capacity. 00:32:27.360 --> 00:32:32.640 The city is working on its utility impact fees, and so we are needing to convene the 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.800 CIAC and have that meeting. 00:32:34.800 --> 00:32:39.680 So we typically do those before the Planning and Zoning Commission work session. 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:44.320 So we would do those at 4 o'clock p.m., and again, this would be on February 12th. 00:32:44.320 --> 00:32:50.160 So does anybody know if they have a conflict with that meeting date and time? 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.160 Okay. 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.400 Good. 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.660 So love to see that. 00:32:56.660 --> 00:33:00.280 Also a friendly reminder, if you could make sure that you also respond to the email that 00:33:00.280 --> 00:33:03.960 Kathy has sent you, because we do track your availability that way. 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:13.200 So thank you for that, and I believe that concludes my report, so thank you. 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:18.080 Any requests or additions for the matrix? 00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:27.360 I have one that may just fold into the bootcamp updates, but I think especially with concerning 00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:36.960 the plats that we move forward, I would like to see an overview of not only what is that 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:42.640 process and what is our responsibility in that, but also what does staff have to do 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:51.080 when there are last-minute changes from the plat perspective or meeting quorum perspective, 00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:57.960 and then what are the implications of not being able to act on those applications in 00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:59.760 a timely manner? 00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:00.760 Yeah. 00:34:00.760 --> 00:34:01.760 Okay. 00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:05.560 We can do that. 00:34:05.560 --> 00:34:07.360 Okay. 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:12.560 Well, concluding items. 00:34:12.560 --> 00:34:17.720 Anybody have any concluding items for this evening? 00:34:17.720 --> 00:34:19.300 Seeing none. 00:34:19.300 --> 00:34:25.640 Thank you, Commission and staff, and I will adjourn this meeting of the Denton Planning 00:34:25.640 --> 00:34:27.880 and Zoning Commission at 7.05 p.m.