WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.720 All right, green lights on, good morning and welcome to the public utility board's meeting 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:20.520 of Monday, January 27th, 2025, it is 9 a.m., so we're going to get started, are there any 00:00:20.520 --> 00:00:21.520 comments from the public? 00:00:21.520 --> 00:00:22.520 No, any comments? 00:00:22.520 --> 00:00:27.120 No, then we'll move right into the regular meeting. 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:31.840 Consent agenda, would any board member like to pull any items for their consent agenda? 00:00:31.840 --> 00:00:35.480 Well, I guess not because there are none, all right, we can go right into items for 00:00:35.480 --> 00:00:37.920 individual consideration. 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:45.320 Item A, PUB 25-013, consider approval of the January 13th, 2025 meeting, 25 minutes. 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:46.320 So moved. 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:47.320 Second. 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.720 We have a motion and a second, is there any further discussion? 00:00:51.720 --> 00:00:54.480 If not, all those in favor, please say aye. 00:00:54.480 --> 00:00:55.480 Aye. 00:00:55.480 --> 00:00:56.480 Any opposed? 00:00:56.480 --> 00:00:57.480 Aye. 00:00:57.480 --> 00:00:58.480 Any opposed? 00:00:58.480 --> 00:00:59.480 Any opposed? 00:00:59.480 --> 00:01:00.480 All right. 00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:08.360 Item B, PUB 25-010, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance, the City of 00:01:08.360 --> 00:01:12.760 Denton, Texas, Home Rule Municipal Corporation authorizing the city manager to execute a contract 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:18.960 with the bond equipment company, Inc. through by-board, a cooperative network contract. 00:01:18.960 --> 00:01:33.280 This is an item worth $18,690,000, and there's Mr. Taylor. 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:37.960 Good morning. 00:01:37.960 --> 00:01:40.720 Yes. 00:01:40.720 --> 00:01:46.520 Just started. 00:01:46.520 --> 00:01:47.520 Good morning. 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:49.160 I am the Director of Facilities and Fleet Services. 00:01:49.160 --> 00:01:55.320 I'm here this morning to request a contract with Bond Equipment to supply refuse trucks 00:01:55.320 --> 00:01:58.720 and equipment for the City of Denton. 00:01:58.720 --> 00:02:02.420 Fleet Service Department is required to maintain and purchase various types of refuse trucks 00:02:02.420 --> 00:02:06.960 and other construction equipment and utility vehicles over the next five years and continuing. 00:02:06.960 --> 00:02:11.520 Additionally, repair services require specialized diagnostics and knowledge that are needed 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:13.480 to keep the equipment operational. 00:02:13.480 --> 00:02:16.960 The proposed contract will allow for the purchase and repair of this equipment, assets purchased 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:21.240 on this contract will be used by several departments, including the utilities, to support the city's 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.040 infrastructure. 00:02:23.040 --> 00:02:26.960 The contract value has been determined through analysis of historical spending levels and 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:31.400 future needs, ensuring the agreement provides adequate funding to support any anticipated 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.960 fleet expansion and the assets needed to maintain the city. 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.720 All vehicle equipment acquisitions will be processed through the city's operating and 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:42.480 capital budget process. 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:49.000 Here we have specifics where the funding will be appropriated through additions, replacements, 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:57.880 repair services and some projections on inflation and compounded growth in the city. 00:02:57.880 --> 00:03:04.880 I have a question. 00:03:04.880 --> 00:03:10.680 I notice you're going to have four additional units added in 28-29. 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:16.060 What does the completion of the new service center have to do with the added equipment? 00:03:16.060 --> 00:03:19.360 The service center specifically, I don't think there's a correlation there. 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:24.320 We operate out of the fleet services shop and then a lot of this equipment is utilized 00:03:24.320 --> 00:03:25.320 in the field. 00:03:25.320 --> 00:03:29.840 So, I'm not sure if there's a correlation to the additions in the new service center 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:30.840 being built. 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.240 Well, just based on the note on your slide, that's why I asked the question, estimate 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:41.040 four additions FY 28-29 due to anticipated completion of new service centers, no? 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:44.880 Just with the expanded growth, there's naturally more space, but this isn't to support the 00:03:44.880 --> 00:03:46.400 construction of the service center. 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.760 No, I just was curious what the correlation was between additional equipment. 00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:51.760 Thank you. 00:03:51.760 --> 00:03:54.760 Yes, sir. 00:03:54.760 --> 00:03:59.680 Go back a slide. 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:09.120 So on the, it will be used by several departments in support of the city's infrastructure. 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:17.040 Are all those departments under your, is this all under the city refuge, garbage trucks 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.080 and such, or what other departments, what departments are you talking about? 00:04:20.080 --> 00:04:23.800 For fleet services, the contracts will support all departments throughout the city. 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:27.600 That could be parks and recreation, even marketing and communication as vehicles. 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:32.400 Any city department that has vehicle assets would be utilizing this contract. 00:04:32.400 --> 00:04:37.240 It is more focused around utility vehicles and heavy duty vehicles, which aligns underneath 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.400 the utility department specifically. 00:04:39.400 --> 00:04:43.440 But the contract has the capacity to support anybody who has vehicles within the city. 00:04:43.440 --> 00:04:47.160 And so you're going to pay the whole bill, irregardless of the other departments that 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:48.840 are using it? 00:04:48.840 --> 00:04:50.800 So the contract spend is not a guaranteed spend. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:54.820 We can utilize up to that, not necessarily we'll have to use all of it. 00:04:54.820 --> 00:04:56.440 So if there's not a need, we won't spend. 00:04:56.440 --> 00:05:00.400 But my point is though, would you be paying it all versus any of the other departments? 00:05:00.400 --> 00:05:01.400 Is that not right? 00:05:01.400 --> 00:05:02.400 No. 00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:09.000 So generally vehicles are either cash funded from operating funds or they're bond funded. 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.600 And so some departments issue bonds and so that's where they're paid for. 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.880 They're not paid out of the fleet fund itself. 00:05:15.880 --> 00:05:20.400 It gets paid out of whatever the respective department that's buying those vehicles. 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:21.400 Thank you for that clarification. 00:05:21.400 --> 00:05:27.280 So you'll manage the purchases, however, each department will fund its own purchase? 00:05:27.280 --> 00:05:28.280 Correct. 00:05:28.280 --> 00:05:29.280 Yes, sir. 00:05:29.280 --> 00:05:31.640 Just a curiosity question. 00:05:31.640 --> 00:05:39.600 So the refuse or solid waste fleet represents a significant portion of your fleet cost each 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:40.600 year? 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:41.600 Yes, sir. 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:42.600 Could you give us a ballpark percentage? 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.760 Well, when it comes to refuse trucks, 100% of the refuse trucks purchased are for solid 00:05:46.760 --> 00:05:47.760 waste. 00:05:47.760 --> 00:05:48.760 Obviously. 00:05:48.760 --> 00:05:53.440 Right, right, for this contract as a whole, 70% of this contract will be utilized by the 00:05:53.440 --> 00:05:57.400 utilities and then the fire department will have the opportunity as well for some heavy 00:05:57.400 --> 00:06:00.880 duty servicing of this contract, which will be funded by the general fund. 00:06:00.880 --> 00:06:05.160 That doesn't quite answer my question, I'm sorry. 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:12.120 So the solid waste equipment, what percentage of the total fleet does that represent in 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:14.800 terms of expenditure? 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:15.800 On this contract? 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.040 No, the overall department, I'm sorry, your entire department. 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.120 Sure, about 30%. 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:22.120 Okay. 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:25.560 That's the weighted difference of solid waste versus my total portfolio. 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.560 Oh, thank you. 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:31.600 Yes, sir. 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:35.280 Keep moving. 00:06:35.280 --> 00:06:38.560 Recommendation is to approve a one-year contract with four additional one-year extensions and 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:44.320 a total of a five-year not to exceed amount with bond equipment for $18,690,000 to support 00:06:44.320 --> 00:06:49.560 the city and the assets associated. 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:50.560 Any additional questions? 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:56.920 It does not appear, oh, Mr. Taylor. 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:01.680 Is this the same method that we used five years ago to get our current contracts or 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:05.400 is this new, a different method than we've used in the past? 00:07:05.400 --> 00:07:09.640 Sure, so the contract solicitation or cooperative would be the same. 00:07:09.640 --> 00:07:13.760 However, there is a precedent set that we use with our light duty fleet is that we're 00:07:13.760 --> 00:07:19.920 looking at the capacity to buy rather than targeting specific manufacturers. 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:24.560 Before we utilized rush equipment for targeted purchases, here we're asking for capacity 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:28.800 on these contracts so that we can purchase vehicles that are on the lot or have faster 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.320 lead times to avoid the delayed acquisition. 00:07:32.320 --> 00:07:39.120 Before when we were utilizing one manufacturer type of contracts, we would see 18 to 24-month 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.520 turnaround times. 00:07:40.520 --> 00:07:44.240 What we've experienced utilizing this method is that we are not turning refuse trucks over 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:49.360 for purchases within the quarter of when they're asked for, so a great ability to increase 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:53.320 our operational efficiency by utilizing this method. 00:07:53.320 --> 00:07:58.040 Does that lead to different brands of equipment or is it just buying from a different kind 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:59.760 of location around the country? 00:07:59.760 --> 00:08:00.940 Yeah, great question. 00:08:00.940 --> 00:08:06.180 It allows us to do both, but really we focus on diversifying the brands within the fleet 00:08:06.180 --> 00:08:10.440 and we've seen a great return on the ability to not have the same type of vehicle down 00:08:10.440 --> 00:08:14.600 for the same issues by expanding the diversity within our fleet. 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:15.600 Thank you. 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.600 Of course. 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:17.600 All right. 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:26.600 Let's see, where are we on this item? 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:41.400 So this does just require action. 00:08:41.400 --> 00:08:48.880 Okay, didn't say it at the bottom. 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:49.880 All right. 00:08:49.880 --> 00:08:55.320 So does the board wish to make a motion to recommend approval of going ahead with this 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:56.320 item? 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.280 I have a motion for Mr. Ryback. 00:08:58.280 --> 00:08:59.280 Second. 00:08:59.280 --> 00:09:04.000 Second for Mr. Taylor. 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:05.840 I can state the motion. 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.960 I would like to move that we accept this proposal and move forward. 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.080 We have a motion to approve in a second. 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:14.760 All those in favor please say aye. 00:09:14.760 --> 00:09:15.760 Aye. 00:09:15.760 --> 00:09:18.240 Any opposed sign the same and it passes unanimously. 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.000 All right. 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:26.640 We have a motion to approve item C, PB 25-011, consider recommending adoption of an ordinance 00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:30.080 of the City of Denton, the Texas Home World Municipal Corporation authorizing the city 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:35.800 manager to ask to get a contract with Industrial Power LLC through the interlocal purchasing 00:09:35.800 --> 00:09:42.240 system and such cooperative program contract numbers. 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.560 Police department providing for the expenditure of funds therefore providing an effective 00:09:45.560 --> 00:09:53.880 date file 8722 wanted to Industrial Power LLC for one year with the option for four extensions, 00:09:53.880 --> 00:10:02.400 total of five not to exceed the amount of $19,477,500. 00:10:02.400 --> 00:10:04.960 Tom Gray, Director of Facilities and Fleet again. 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:05.960 Same guy. 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:06.960 Yes. 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:07.960 Exact same concept. 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.240 Fleet services department is required to repair, maintain and purchase various types 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:14.080 of refuse trucks, construction equipment, and utility vehicles over the next five years 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.200 and continuing, the repair service is required to specialize diagnostics and knowledge needed 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.280 to keep the equipment operational. 00:10:20.280 --> 00:10:23.760 Pros contract will allow for purchasing and repair of the equipment assets purchased on 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:28.240 this contract will be used by several departments within the city to support the city's infrastructure. 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:32.320 The contract value has been determined by the historical spending levels and future needs 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:36.440 ensuring the agreement provides adequate funding to support the anticipated fleet expansions 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.040 and the associated maintenance services with those vehicles. 00:10:39.040 --> 00:10:43.440 All the vehicles acquired and serviced will be processed through the city's budgeting 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:47.360 process. 00:10:47.360 --> 00:11:03.960 Similarly, cost structure broken down with the anticipated needs over the years. 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.480 And then, of course, the SAS recommendation to approve a one-year with four additional 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.960 or one-year extensions with a total of a five-year not to exceed amount with Industrial Power 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:16.880 Policy for $19,477,500. 00:11:16.880 --> 00:11:17.880 Any questions? 00:11:17.880 --> 00:11:22.800 >> Of Industrial Power, are they a company that we're currently using for this service? 00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:23.800 >> Yes, they are, sir. 00:11:23.800 --> 00:11:26.200 >> And they've given a satisfactory service? 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:27.200 >> Very good service, sir. 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:28.200 >> Thank you. 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:29.200 >> Yes, sir. 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:30.200 >> Mr. Taylor? 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:35.000 >> In relation to the last contract, do these overlap where they might be who can deliver 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.880 it faster delivers it or are they different equipment? 00:11:37.880 --> 00:11:40.120 >> So there are different manufacturers per contract. 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.800 That's why you'll see some of the same numbers but the capacity to buy again. 00:11:44.800 --> 00:11:49.080 And for the items that are similar, it does provide them with the opportunity to still 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:50.080 be competitive. 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:51.080 >> Okay. 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:59.080 So the $630,000 this year for contract one and contract two in additions, those just 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:05.280 happen to be like a round number that approximates two new vehicles or whatever number of vehicles? 00:12:05.280 --> 00:12:06.280 >> That is correct. 00:12:06.280 --> 00:12:11.240 Right now we have the -- assuming these two contracts are approved and move forward, if 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:14.400 we need one refuse truck, we now have two options to purchase that. 00:12:14.400 --> 00:12:18.440 So either of those opportunities that have one on site, we can make that acquisition 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.840 and turn it over to the department within a lot of time for make ready. 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:27.920 Whereas if we only selected one of these contracts, we would be at the mercy of their availability 00:12:27.920 --> 00:12:29.480 for providing that truck. 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:35.360 >> And do we expect to spend the full spend on each contract or they're competitive and 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.840 so maybe the money goes here, maybe it goes there? 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:38.840 >> Correct. 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:39.840 Correct. 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:44.600 There's not an anticipation of meeting the NTE on both contracts over the five years. 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:48.080 Assuming that there's a lot of overlap in these contracts for the acquisitions of the 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:49.080 trash trucks. 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:50.080 >> Thank you. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:51.080 >> Of course. 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:59.520 >> I have a question that kind of brings me back to both of these, I guess. 00:12:59.520 --> 00:13:04.800 Are these a combination of mobile and on site repairs on the repair side of it? 00:13:04.800 --> 00:13:05.800 >> Yes, sir. 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:12.480 So these contracts provide field servicing and repair shop servicing and also transportation 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:17.320 services, body repairs, essentially everything that we need to support a repair that we cannot 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.720 do in-house, these vendors can support. 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:26.240 >> So it'll be itemized as far as what those pay items, hours per mobile unit, hours per 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:27.600 stationary unit, whatever? 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:30.800 >> Yes, per the tips and cooperative contract pricing. 00:13:30.800 --> 00:13:31.800 >> Yeah. 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:32.800 Okay. 00:13:32.800 --> 00:13:38.720 So you said will any of this be done on site in our service center? 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:39.720 >> A lot of it. 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.680 As soon as the solid waste fleet shop new build is complete, we will have a dedicated 00:13:43.680 --> 00:13:49.200 bay for contractors to come and support on site, which will help us turn over costs quicker 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.840 and keep the trucks on our facility. 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:52.840 >> Okay. 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:53.840 All right. 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.840 That's all I got. 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:57.840 Okay. 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:03.680 Anybody want to make a motion to approve and recommend going forward? 00:14:03.680 --> 00:14:07.040 >> I move we recommend adoption to city council of this ordinance. 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:08.040 >> Second. 00:14:08.040 --> 00:14:11.120 >> Motion and second from Mr. Newquist. 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.200 All those in favor, please say aye. 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:15.200 >> Aye. 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:16.200 >> Aye. 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:17.200 Any opposed? 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:18.200 Signed the same. 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:19.200 It passes unanimously as well. 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:20.200 All right. 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:21.200 Moving right along. 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:22.200 >> Thank you. 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:28.120 >> Going into management reports, I guess that would be Mr. Puente. 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:32.800 >> Mr. Chair, members of the board, today we have a follow-up memo on a project. 00:14:32.800 --> 00:14:34.080 I know Dee's here. 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:38.480 If there's a question you have, I think there was a question likely at the last meeting 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:42.800 about FM 1515 and some sewer easements. 00:14:42.800 --> 00:14:48.240 So if you have any questions beyond the memo, Dee's here to respond. 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.840 >> I have a question, unless there are some others. 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:58.640 Just one thing here just stuck out at me, and maybe it just -- maybe it's normal and 00:14:58.640 --> 00:15:06.280 I didn't notice it until this agenda item came out where they put the question about 00:15:06.280 --> 00:15:11.200 a council member having a conflict of interest. 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.480 Is that something we've added normally? 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.080 >> We include that on all of our ordinances. 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:16.080 >> On all these? 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:17.080 Okay. 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:18.080 All right. 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.080 Okay. 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:20.080 Okay. 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.680 I have a question. 00:15:24.680 --> 00:15:30.920 So I didn't really catch this conflict of interest thing, so thank you for pointing it out. 00:15:30.920 --> 00:15:37.480 So what would be a conflict of interest in the case of property acquisition? 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:40.320 >> I don't know if that's really a legal question or not. 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.640 >> I mean, just generally speaking, the person owns the property or owns property adjacent 00:15:44.640 --> 00:15:45.640 to it. 00:15:45.640 --> 00:15:51.960 There may be a family member to someone who owns property or has some other professional 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:57.800 relationship with one of the property owners that the city would be needing to acquire. 00:15:57.800 --> 00:15:58.800 >> Okay. 00:15:58.800 --> 00:15:59.800 That's fine. 00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:01.400 I just -- >> You could ask a Board of Ethics member 00:16:01.400 --> 00:16:02.400 over there. 00:16:02.400 --> 00:16:05.280 >> I'll follow up later with you on that. 00:16:05.280 --> 00:16:08.280 >> You're in so much trouble. 00:16:08.280 --> 00:16:10.960 So how long have we had that clause in the contract? 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:12.880 How do you recall? 00:16:12.880 --> 00:16:18.600 >> In the ordinance I think for about as -- at least as long as I've been here and probably 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:19.600 before then. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.120 I've been here six years now, so -- >> And so that conflict of interest is only 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:30.840 on those people that are voting, whether it be City Council or even here, that could be 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:36.280 pursued as swaying a particular purchase on something. 00:16:36.280 --> 00:16:39.760 Is that a fair question? 00:16:39.760 --> 00:16:43.680 >> That would be my assumption not being an attorney, but yes. 00:16:43.680 --> 00:16:46.960 >> This paragraph says Council member, but yes, I think we're aware. 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:51.280 >> Well, within the ethics officers, which we are all officers as well. 00:16:51.280 --> 00:16:57.040 So tell us, Counselor. 00:16:57.040 --> 00:17:01.920 >> I think it's a little bit off-posting to discuss the ethics ordinance here and conflict 00:17:01.920 --> 00:17:02.920 of interest rules. 00:17:02.920 --> 00:17:09.880 I think the question about why is it on the AIS is valid because it's on the AIS, but 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:14.960 I don't think I want to get into arguing about the ethics rules. 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:22.560 Also it's ultimately up to the Board of Ethics to make determinations in those cases. 00:17:22.560 --> 00:17:23.560 >> Good. 00:17:23.560 --> 00:17:24.560 Good. 00:17:24.560 --> 00:17:27.560 Screen pass there. 00:17:27.560 --> 00:17:38.920 I just -- I'm sorry, I brought it up because I just hadn't noticed this in the past. 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:44.800 >> So Mr. Chair, we don't have any items on our new business action items. 00:17:44.800 --> 00:17:50.560 I think that may be a first, so you're off to a great start, Mr. Chair. 00:17:50.560 --> 00:17:53.720 And then for future agenda items, we don't have anything listed. 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:55.640 I don't have to talk to one of you. 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.720 I do plan to talk to Matt and finance to see if we can start populating, and they're still 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:06.240 working through the budget calendar, but hopefully for the next meeting we'll populate that so 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:10.160 that you kind of can make your plans, only if you have vacation plans or the conflicts 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.160 where you may not be here. 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.240 So at least you're aware of those dates. 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:22.000 >> We do have something Mr. Rayner brought up I think he wants to address possibly, so. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.000 >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:31.640 In our last meeting, we voted on PUB 24-265 in the affirmation to move forward. 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:41.240 Towards the end of the discussion, we were told that the company was a -- from Mexico. 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:48.320 With the new administration in Washington that we have, I am concerned in that if we 00:18:48.320 --> 00:18:56.120 have a tariff that may be placed upon Mexico for a reason, will that affect this particular 00:18:56.120 --> 00:18:57.120 purchase? 00:18:57.120 --> 00:19:03.960 Is this -- first of all, is the product that we voted on, is it already in the United States? 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:04.960 Is it there? 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.000 So it is not subject to a tariff. 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:14.640 That being said, I'd also like to know for future votes if there is something that is 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:19.500 outside the United States that we're purchasing to bring in, I'd like to at least have some 00:19:19.500 --> 00:19:27.680 kind of study or discussion on what costs that might bring to us that we're not prepared 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:33.520 for, such as this one, if there is a 25% tariff before this comes to the United States, I'm 00:19:33.520 --> 00:19:35.480 assuming that we will eat that. 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:42.400 I'd like our budget department to just give us some more clarification as to what potential 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.560 liabilities we may have. 00:19:45.560 --> 00:19:46.560 Is that all right? 00:19:46.560 --> 00:19:47.560 Yes, sir. 00:19:47.560 --> 00:19:53.880 So we can certainly work with procurement and finance on kind of the wider general potential 00:19:53.880 --> 00:20:00.080 impacts and how those may impact contracts, but we can also address this specific one 00:20:00.080 --> 00:20:02.680 as to what that would potentially mean. 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:08.120 Generally most contracts have pricing escalation procedures that we're able to review and either 00:20:08.120 --> 00:20:12.000 accept or not, and in the event that we don't accept them, we can rebid the whole process 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:13.000 again. 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.720 But again, we'll work with procurement and finance to get the wording, we'll get a memo 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:17.600 back out to you for the next meeting. 00:20:17.600 --> 00:20:24.040 And I'd like to add, if it is permissible, such as this company, which was evidently 00:20:24.040 --> 00:20:31.400 fine with the bidding and such, but I'd like to know if they are in America or not. 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:38.240 Once again, because of inventory and such, do we have a longer wait period for getting 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:44.160 it into the country versus already here, I'd like for the Public Utility Board to at least 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:53.440 have that knowledge as we vote on these other things, other items that come along. 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:54.440 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:55.440 Yep. 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:56.440 All right. 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.640 Is that all you got, Tony? 00:20:58.640 --> 00:20:59.720 Yes, sir. 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:00.720 That's it. 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:01.720 Anybody else? 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:02.880 I move we adjourn. 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:03.880 Okay. 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:13.840 Don't even need a motion, I don't think we're adjourned.