1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,720 All right, green lights on, good morning and welcome to the public utility board's meeting 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:20,520 of Monday, January 27th, 2025, it is 9 a.m., so we're going to get started, are there any 3 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,520 comments from the public? 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,520 No, any comments? 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,120 No, then we'll move right into the regular meeting. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,840 Consent agenda, would any board member like to pull any items for their consent agenda? 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,480 Well, I guess not because there are none, all right, we can go right into items for 8 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:37,920 individual consideration. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Item A, PUB 25-013, consider approval of the January 13th, 2025 meeting, 25 minutes. 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,320 So moved. 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,320 Second. 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,720 We have a motion and a second, is there any further discussion? 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,480 If not, all those in favor, please say aye. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,480 Aye. 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,480 Any opposed? 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,480 Aye. 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Any opposed? 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Any opposed? 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,480 All right. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Item B, PUB 25-010, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance, the City of 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,760 Denton, Texas, Home Rule Municipal Corporation authorizing the city manager to execute a contract 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,960 with the bond equipment company, Inc. through by-board, a cooperative network contract. 23 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:33,280 This is an item worth $18,690,000, and there's Mr. Taylor. 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,960 Good morning. 25 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:40,720 Yes. 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Just started. 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,520 Good morning. 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,160 I am the Director of Facilities and Fleet Services. 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:55,320 I'm here this morning to request a contract with Bond Equipment to supply refuse trucks 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,720 and equipment for the City of Denton. 31 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,420 Fleet Service Department is required to maintain and purchase various types of refuse trucks 32 00:02:02,420 --> 00:02:06,960 and other construction equipment and utility vehicles over the next five years and continuing. 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Additionally, repair services require specialized diagnostics and knowledge that are needed 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,480 to keep the equipment operational. 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,960 The proposed contract will allow for the purchase and repair of this equipment, assets purchased 36 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,240 on this contract will be used by several departments, including the utilities, to support the city's 37 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,040 infrastructure. 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,960 The contract value has been determined through analysis of historical spending levels and 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,400 future needs, ensuring the agreement provides adequate funding to support any anticipated 40 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,960 fleet expansion and the assets needed to maintain the city. 41 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,720 All vehicle equipment acquisitions will be processed through the city's operating and 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,480 capital budget process. 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Here we have specifics where the funding will be appropriated through additions, replacements, 44 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:57,880 repair services and some projections on inflation and compounded growth in the city. 45 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,880 I have a question. 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,680 I notice you're going to have four additional units added in 28-29. 47 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,060 What does the completion of the new service center have to do with the added equipment? 48 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:19,360 The service center specifically, I don't think there's a correlation there. 49 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,320 We operate out of the fleet services shop and then a lot of this equipment is utilized 50 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,320 in the field. 51 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,840 So, I'm not sure if there's a correlation to the additions in the new service center 52 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:30,840 being built. 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,240 Well, just based on the note on your slide, that's why I asked the question, estimate 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:41,040 four additions FY 28-29 due to anticipated completion of new service centers, no? 55 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,880 Just with the expanded growth, there's naturally more space, but this isn't to support the 56 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,400 construction of the service center. 57 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,760 No, I just was curious what the correlation was between additional equipment. 58 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,760 Thank you. 59 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Yes, sir. 60 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,680 Go back a slide. 61 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:09,120 So on the, it will be used by several departments in support of the city's infrastructure. 62 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Are all those departments under your, is this all under the city refuge, garbage trucks 63 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,080 and such, or what other departments, what departments are you talking about? 64 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,800 For fleet services, the contracts will support all departments throughout the city. 65 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,600 That could be parks and recreation, even marketing and communication as vehicles. 66 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Any city department that has vehicle assets would be utilizing this contract. 67 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,240 It is more focused around utility vehicles and heavy duty vehicles, which aligns underneath 68 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,400 the utility department specifically. 69 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,440 But the contract has the capacity to support anybody who has vehicles within the city. 70 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,160 And so you're going to pay the whole bill, irregardless of the other departments that 71 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,840 are using it? 72 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:50,800 So the contract spend is not a guaranteed spend. 73 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,820 We can utilize up to that, not necessarily we'll have to use all of it. 74 00:04:54,820 --> 00:04:56,440 So if there's not a need, we won't spend. 75 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,400 But my point is though, would you be paying it all versus any of the other departments? 76 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Is that not right? 77 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,400 No. 78 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:09,000 So generally vehicles are either cash funded from operating funds or they're bond funded. 79 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,600 And so some departments issue bonds and so that's where they're paid for. 80 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,880 They're not paid out of the fleet fund itself. 81 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,400 It gets paid out of whatever the respective department that's buying those vehicles. 82 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,400 Thank you for that clarification. 83 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:27,280 So you'll manage the purchases, however, each department will fund its own purchase? 84 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:28,280 Correct. 85 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,280 Yes, sir. 86 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:31,640 Just a curiosity question. 87 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:39,600 So the refuse or solid waste fleet represents a significant portion of your fleet cost each 88 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,600 year? 89 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Yes, sir. 90 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,600 Could you give us a ballpark percentage? 91 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Well, when it comes to refuse trucks, 100% of the refuse trucks purchased are for solid 92 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,760 waste. 93 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,760 Obviously. 94 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Right, right, for this contract as a whole, 70% of this contract will be utilized by the 95 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,400 utilities and then the fire department will have the opportunity as well for some heavy 96 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,880 duty servicing of this contract, which will be funded by the general fund. 97 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,160 That doesn't quite answer my question, I'm sorry. 98 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:12,120 So the solid waste equipment, what percentage of the total fleet does that represent in 99 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,800 terms of expenditure? 100 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,800 On this contract? 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,040 No, the overall department, I'm sorry, your entire department. 102 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Sure, about 30%. 103 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Okay. 104 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,560 That's the weighted difference of solid waste versus my total portfolio. 105 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Oh, thank you. 106 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,600 Yes, sir. 107 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,280 Keep moving. 108 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,560 Recommendation is to approve a one-year contract with four additional one-year extensions and 109 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:44,320 a total of a five-year not to exceed amount with bond equipment for $18,690,000 to support 110 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,560 the city and the assets associated. 111 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,560 Any additional questions? 112 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,920 It does not appear, oh, Mr. Taylor. 113 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Is this the same method that we used five years ago to get our current contracts or 114 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,400 is this new, a different method than we've used in the past? 115 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,640 Sure, so the contract solicitation or cooperative would be the same. 116 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,760 However, there is a precedent set that we use with our light duty fleet is that we're 117 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,920 looking at the capacity to buy rather than targeting specific manufacturers. 118 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Before we utilized rush equipment for targeted purchases, here we're asking for capacity 119 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,800 on these contracts so that we can purchase vehicles that are on the lot or have faster 120 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,320 lead times to avoid the delayed acquisition. 121 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Before when we were utilizing one manufacturer type of contracts, we would see 18 to 24-month 122 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,520 turnaround times. 123 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,240 What we've experienced utilizing this method is that we are not turning refuse trucks over 124 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,360 for purchases within the quarter of when they're asked for, so a great ability to increase 125 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,320 our operational efficiency by utilizing this method. 126 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Does that lead to different brands of equipment or is it just buying from a different kind 127 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,760 of location around the country? 128 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:00,940 Yeah, great question. 129 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:06,180 It allows us to do both, but really we focus on diversifying the brands within the fleet 130 00:08:06,180 --> 00:08:10,440 and we've seen a great return on the ability to not have the same type of vehicle down 131 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,600 for the same issues by expanding the diversity within our fleet. 132 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Thank you. 133 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Of course. 134 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,600 All right. 135 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Let's see, where are we on this item? 136 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:41,400 So this does just require action. 137 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Okay, didn't say it at the bottom. 138 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,880 All right. 139 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,320 So does the board wish to make a motion to recommend approval of going ahead with this 140 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,320 item? 141 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,280 I have a motion for Mr. Ryback. 142 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Second. 143 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Second for Mr. Taylor. 144 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,840 I can state the motion. 145 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,960 I would like to move that we accept this proposal and move forward. 146 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,080 We have a motion to approve in a second. 147 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,760 All those in favor please say aye. 148 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Aye. 149 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Any opposed sign the same and it passes unanimously. 150 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,000 All right. 151 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,640 We have a motion to approve item C, PB 25-011, consider recommending adoption of an ordinance 152 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,080 of the City of Denton, the Texas Home World Municipal Corporation authorizing the city 153 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,800 manager to ask to get a contract with Industrial Power LLC through the interlocal purchasing 154 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:42,240 system and such cooperative program contract numbers. 155 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,560 Police department providing for the expenditure of funds therefore providing an effective 156 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:53,880 date file 8722 wanted to Industrial Power LLC for one year with the option for four extensions, 157 00:09:53,880 --> 00:10:02,400 total of five not to exceed the amount of $19,477,500. 158 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Tom Gray, Director of Facilities and Fleet again. 159 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,960 Same guy. 160 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,960 Yes. 161 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Exact same concept. 162 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Fleet services department is required to repair, maintain and purchase various types 163 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,080 of refuse trucks, construction equipment, and utility vehicles over the next five years 164 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,200 and continuing, the repair service is required to specialize diagnostics and knowledge needed 165 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,280 to keep the equipment operational. 166 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Pros contract will allow for purchasing and repair of the equipment assets purchased on 167 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,240 this contract will be used by several departments within the city to support the city's infrastructure. 168 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,320 The contract value has been determined by the historical spending levels and future needs 169 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,440 ensuring the agreement provides adequate funding to support the anticipated fleet expansions 170 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,040 and the associated maintenance services with those vehicles. 171 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,440 All the vehicles acquired and serviced will be processed through the city's budgeting 172 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,360 process. 173 00:10:47,360 --> 00:11:03,960 Similarly, cost structure broken down with the anticipated needs over the years. 174 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,480 And then, of course, the SAS recommendation to approve a one-year with four additional 175 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,960 or one-year extensions with a total of a five-year not to exceed amount with Industrial Power 176 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,880 Policy for $19,477,500. 177 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Any questions? 178 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,800 >> Of Industrial Power, are they a company that we're currently using for this service? 179 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,800 >> Yes, they are, sir. 180 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,200 >> And they've given a satisfactory service? 181 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,200 >> Very good service, sir. 182 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,200 >> Thank you. 183 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,200 >> Yes, sir. 184 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,200 >> Mr. Taylor? 185 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,000 >> In relation to the last contract, do these overlap where they might be who can deliver 186 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,880 it faster delivers it or are they different equipment? 187 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,120 >> So there are different manufacturers per contract. 188 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,800 That's why you'll see some of the same numbers but the capacity to buy again. 189 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,080 And for the items that are similar, it does provide them with the opportunity to still 190 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,080 be competitive. 191 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,080 >> Okay. 192 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:59,080 So the $630,000 this year for contract one and contract two in additions, those just 193 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:05,280 happen to be like a round number that approximates two new vehicles or whatever number of vehicles? 194 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,280 >> That is correct. 195 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Right now we have the -- assuming these two contracts are approved and move forward, if 196 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,400 we need one refuse truck, we now have two options to purchase that. 197 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,440 So either of those opportunities that have one on site, we can make that acquisition 198 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,840 and turn it over to the department within a lot of time for make ready. 199 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Whereas if we only selected one of these contracts, we would be at the mercy of their availability 200 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,480 for providing that truck. 201 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:35,360 >> And do we expect to spend the full spend on each contract or they're competitive and 202 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,840 so maybe the money goes here, maybe it goes there? 203 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,840 >> Correct. 204 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,840 Correct. 205 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,600 There's not an anticipation of meeting the NTE on both contracts over the five years. 206 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,080 Assuming that there's a lot of overlap in these contracts for the acquisitions of the 207 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,080 trash trucks. 208 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,080 >> Thank you. 209 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,080 >> Of course. 210 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:59,520 >> I have a question that kind of brings me back to both of these, I guess. 211 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,800 Are these a combination of mobile and on site repairs on the repair side of it? 212 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,800 >> Yes, sir. 213 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:12,480 So these contracts provide field servicing and repair shop servicing and also transportation 214 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,320 services, body repairs, essentially everything that we need to support a repair that we cannot 215 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,720 do in-house, these vendors can support. 216 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:26,240 >> So it'll be itemized as far as what those pay items, hours per mobile unit, hours per 217 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,600 stationary unit, whatever? 218 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,800 >> Yes, per the tips and cooperative contract pricing. 219 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,800 >> Yeah. 220 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,800 Okay. 221 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,720 So you said will any of this be done on site in our service center? 222 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,720 >> A lot of it. 223 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,680 As soon as the solid waste fleet shop new build is complete, we will have a dedicated 224 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:49,200 bay for contractors to come and support on site, which will help us turn over costs quicker 225 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,840 and keep the trucks on our facility. 226 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,840 >> Okay. 227 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,840 All right. 228 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,840 That's all I got. 229 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Okay. 230 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Anybody want to make a motion to approve and recommend going forward? 231 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:07,040 >> I move we recommend adoption to city council of this ordinance. 232 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,040 >> Second. 233 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,120 >> Motion and second from Mr. Newquist. 234 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,200 All those in favor, please say aye. 235 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,200 >> Aye. 236 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,200 >> Aye. 237 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,200 Any opposed? 238 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Signed the same. 239 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,200 It passes unanimously as well. 240 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,200 All right. 241 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Moving right along. 242 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,200 >> Thank you. 243 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:28,120 >> Going into management reports, I guess that would be Mr. Puente. 244 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,800 >> Mr. Chair, members of the board, today we have a follow-up memo on a project. 245 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,080 I know Dee's here. 246 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,480 If there's a question you have, I think there was a question likely at the last meeting 247 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,800 about FM 1515 and some sewer easements. 248 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,240 So if you have any questions beyond the memo, Dee's here to respond. 249 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,840 >> I have a question, unless there are some others. 250 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Just one thing here just stuck out at me, and maybe it just -- maybe it's normal and 251 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:06,280 I didn't notice it until this agenda item came out where they put the question about 252 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,200 a council member having a conflict of interest. 253 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Is that something we've added normally? 254 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,080 >> We include that on all of our ordinances. 255 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,080 >> On all these? 256 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Okay. 257 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,080 All right. 258 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Okay. 259 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,080 Okay. 260 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,680 I have a question. 261 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:30,920 So I didn't really catch this conflict of interest thing, so thank you for pointing it out. 262 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:37,480 So what would be a conflict of interest in the case of property acquisition? 263 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,320 >> I don't know if that's really a legal question or not. 264 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,640 >> I mean, just generally speaking, the person owns the property or owns property adjacent 265 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,640 to it. 266 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,960 There may be a family member to someone who owns property or has some other professional 267 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,800 relationship with one of the property owners that the city would be needing to acquire. 268 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,800 >> Okay. 269 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,800 That's fine. 270 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,400 I just -- >> You could ask a Board of Ethics member 271 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,400 over there. 272 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,280 >> I'll follow up later with you on that. 273 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 >> You're in so much trouble. 274 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,960 So how long have we had that clause in the contract? 275 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,880 How do you recall? 276 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,600 >> In the ordinance I think for about as -- at least as long as I've been here and probably 277 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,600 before then. 278 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,120 I've been here six years now, so -- >> And so that conflict of interest is only 279 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:30,840 on those people that are voting, whether it be City Council or even here, that could be 280 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,280 pursued as swaying a particular purchase on something. 281 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,760 Is that a fair question? 282 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,680 >> That would be my assumption not being an attorney, but yes. 283 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,960 >> This paragraph says Council member, but yes, I think we're aware. 284 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,280 >> Well, within the ethics officers, which we are all officers as well. 285 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:57,040 So tell us, Counselor. 286 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,920 >> I think it's a little bit off-posting to discuss the ethics ordinance here and conflict 287 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,920 of interest rules. 288 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:09,880 I think the question about why is it on the AIS is valid because it's on the AIS, but 289 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,960 I don't think I want to get into arguing about the ethics rules. 290 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:22,560 Also it's ultimately up to the Board of Ethics to make determinations in those cases. 291 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,560 >> Good. 292 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,560 Good. 293 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Screen pass there. 294 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:38,920 I just -- I'm sorry, I brought it up because I just hadn't noticed this in the past. 295 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,800 >> So Mr. Chair, we don't have any items on our new business action items. 296 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:50,560 I think that may be a first, so you're off to a great start, Mr. Chair. 297 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,720 And then for future agenda items, we don't have anything listed. 298 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,640 I don't have to talk to one of you. 299 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,720 I do plan to talk to Matt and finance to see if we can start populating, and they're still 300 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,240 working through the budget calendar, but hopefully for the next meeting we'll populate that so 301 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,160 that you kind of can make your plans, only if you have vacation plans or the conflicts 302 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,160 where you may not be here. 303 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,240 So at least you're aware of those dates. 304 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:22,000 >> We do have something Mr. Rayner brought up I think he wants to address possibly, so. 305 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. 306 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:31,640 In our last meeting, we voted on PUB 24-265 in the affirmation to move forward. 307 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Towards the end of the discussion, we were told that the company was a -- from Mexico. 308 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:48,320 With the new administration in Washington that we have, I am concerned in that if we 309 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:56,120 have a tariff that may be placed upon Mexico for a reason, will that affect this particular 310 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:57,120 purchase? 311 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:03,960 Is this -- first of all, is the product that we voted on, is it already in the United States? 312 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Is it there? 313 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,000 So it is not subject to a tariff. 314 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:14,640 That being said, I'd also like to know for future votes if there is something that is 315 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,500 outside the United States that we're purchasing to bring in, I'd like to at least have some 316 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:27,680 kind of study or discussion on what costs that might bring to us that we're not prepared 317 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:33,520 for, such as this one, if there is a 25% tariff before this comes to the United States, I'm 318 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,480 assuming that we will eat that. 319 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:42,400 I'd like our budget department to just give us some more clarification as to what potential 320 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,560 liabilities we may have. 321 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Is that all right? 322 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Yes, sir. 323 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,880 So we can certainly work with procurement and finance on kind of the wider general potential 324 00:19:53,880 --> 00:20:00,080 impacts and how those may impact contracts, but we can also address this specific one 325 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,680 as to what that would potentially mean. 326 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:08,120 Generally most contracts have pricing escalation procedures that we're able to review and either 327 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:12,000 accept or not, and in the event that we don't accept them, we can rebid the whole process 328 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 again. 329 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,720 But again, we'll work with procurement and finance to get the wording, we'll get a memo 330 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,600 back out to you for the next meeting. 331 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:24,040 And I'd like to add, if it is permissible, such as this company, which was evidently 332 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:31,400 fine with the bidding and such, but I'd like to know if they are in America or not. 333 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:38,240 Once again, because of inventory and such, do we have a longer wait period for getting 334 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:44,160 it into the country versus already here, I'd like for the Public Utility Board to at least 335 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:53,440 have that knowledge as we vote on these other things, other items that come along. 336 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,440 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 337 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,440 Yep. 338 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,440 All right. 339 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,640 Is that all you got, Tony? 340 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Yes, sir. 341 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,720 That's it. 342 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Anybody else? 343 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,880 I move we adjourn. 344 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,880 Okay. 345 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Don't even need a motion, I don't think we're adjourned.