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 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Planning and

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 Zoning Commission Work Session for September 18th, 2019.

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 Seeing that we have a quorum, I will open this meeting at 5.08 PM.

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 The first item on our agenda is to receive a presentation and

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 hold discussion regarding the 2019 Denton Development Code project types and

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 development process, and I believe Julie Wyatt will be presenting this evening.

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 >> Good evening, I'm Julie Wyatt, Senior Planner with the City of Denton.

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 And tonight, I am presenting the Planning Boot Camp Series.

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 I know we've talked about these before.

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 Some of this is gonna be review for some of you.

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 But because we do have a new Denton Development Code that was adopted earlier

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 this year, we felt like it was an important time to come talk to you about

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 what those project types are, what those processes are, and

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 just kind of revisit some of that information.

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 So this is gonna be a series.

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 Tonight's the first, and we'll continue on with some trending topics.

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 So tonight, we're gonna have an overview about who we are, and what we do, and

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 why we do it.

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 We're also gonna talk about sub-chapter two, the Administration and

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 Procedure sub-chapter in the 2019 Denton Development Code.

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 We'll go a little deeper in that sub-chapter.

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 And as part of that, we're gonna talk about project types, approving body, and

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 some other information.

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 And then we're gonna have a brief discussion about the shot clock.

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 That might be something that y'all are familiar with, and

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 we're just gonna talk about how it's gonna affect you and some of our processes.

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 So the overview, first of all, I wanted to talk about why we do what we do,

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 why you spend two nights a month here making decisions and

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 listening to cases and what all of this means.

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 So I looked at the Denton Development Code, and really,

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 page one kind of outlines it pretty well.

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 And that our purpose is to promote the health, safety, and welfare of the residents,

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 to implement the comprehensive plan, to preserve and protect the natural

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 environment, to improve the city's appearance, improve mobility,

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 facilitate adequate public infrastructure, encouraging appropriate use of the land,

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 and also establish procedures.

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 So how do we do that?

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 We have some tools in our toolbox in order to achieve those purposes.

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 The first one is zoning, and zoning, as you're familiar with,

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 is really the use of the land, what you can do on your property.

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 And then the scale of which you can build or develop that property, and

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 the intensity of the activities on that site, maybe the density or

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 what kind of, how those facilities would be used.

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 We also have platting in the toolbox.

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 That establishes lot boundaries.

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 It provides for right of way dedication, easement dedication,

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 also for the extension of public facilities.

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 We have development standards.

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 Those introduce things like environmental regulations, parking regulations,

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 tree preservation, landscaping, site design.

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 Things, elements having to do with lighting and drainage.

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 We have criteria manuals.

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 That's something we don't often talk about at the Planning and Zoning Commission.

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 But in our, we do have criteria manuals, which are really kind of those technical

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 documents, particularly for engineering when you're talking about designing

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 drainage systems, water systems, and our roadways.

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 And then process.

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 Process probably isn't the most exciting thing we do or talk about, but it is vital.

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 Because it truly makes sure that we treat everyone fairly, and

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 that we are consistent and predictable in our timelines and then the outcomes.

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 It's a criteria for approval.

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 And we also want to make sure the requirements are met.

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 If we didn't have processes, how would we know that we got everything we needed on any

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 And just some fun facts for the 2019 Denton Development Code.

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 That's the document that helps us, that really lays out those tools in that toolbox.

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 And it includes nine subchapters.

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 It has 480 pages, if you've read it all.

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 And there are 17 zoning districts in there.

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 So we're not going to go over all of the subchapters tonight.

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 We're just going to take one.

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 And we're not going to really dig into all of it.

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 We're not going to do a page turn of subchapter two.

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 What we're going to do is just hit some highlights.

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 And talk about how those projects that you'll see more often and those processes.

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 So it is the second longest subchapter in the Denton Development Code.

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 It's got a, it's pretty information dense.

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 It's got a lot in it.

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 Once again, probably not the most exciting chapter.

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 But it is really, really important.

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 And it is organized into seven sections.

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 And in my brain, I think of it in, I kind of split those up.

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 The first three, you've got the summary table of all of the projects and those review procedures.

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 It kind of is a snapshot of everything that's in that subchapter.

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 It kind of goes over those review and decision making bodies.

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 Those basic duties of those entities that are responsible for administering the Denton

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 It is not a full outline of all of the, the regulations or policies that affect the Planning

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 Some of that is in the code of ordinances, but it does provide some direction.

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 Common review procedures.

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 This is just that general process and general criteria for approval.

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 That's something new to the 2019 Denton Development Code.

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 In the 2002 Denton Development Code, we just had criteria for approval for each project

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 So we have the general and then specific for each project.

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 And then the second bucket that I look at of the seven sections would be the more specific

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 detailed information for each project type.

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 So it goes into development permits and procedure.

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 That brings in the zoning compliance, also known as the site plan, specific use permits

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 It talks about subdivision procedures.

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 That is all things platting.

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 Plan and DDC amendments.

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 That brings in zoning, PDs and comprehensive plan amendments.

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 And then flexibility and relief procedures.

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 That's where you bring in the variances and the alternative ESAs and finally historic

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 So we're going to dive into some more specificity on select project types.

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 I won't talk about all of them tonight.

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 But the first one we're going to talk about is annexation.

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 That's not something that P&Z really sees very often.

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 What it does is it extends the boundaries of our city.

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 So when a property is annexed, that then moves the boundary of our city.

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 A municipality in the state of Texas can annex area that is only in its extraterritorial

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 That's that ETJ.

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 Or if the municipality owns that property.

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 And just ETJ, just wanted to define that.

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 That is -- that's unincorporated area.

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 That's outside of our municipal boundaries, but contiguous to our corporate boundaries.

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 So that's where our ETJ is.

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 And you can find the regulations for annexation in section 2.7.5.

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 It doesn't have a whole lot of detail.

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 It really refers you to the Texas local government code.

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 That's where we really get all of our procedures and timelines for that.

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 It doesn't go to P&Z.

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 It goes to city council for approval or denial.

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 It's not something we see very often.

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 It might be something that we start to see more frequently with the adoption of the new

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 But broadly, a comprehensive plan establishes the vision for our growth.

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 It shows how all of the parts of the community come together.

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 And that can be land use and transportation, housing and parks, how they all interplay

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 and work together.

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 Ours includes a land use plan, a mobility plan, infrastructure plan, housing plan and

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 The Denton plan 2030, which hopefully all of you have a copy.

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 If you don't, we can get you one.

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 It was adopted in 2015.

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 And typically, comprehensive plans have a 20-year time rise and sometimes 30 years.

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 But it really should be updated every five years.

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 That's kind of the industry, the planning standard is to update them every five years.

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 And I believe we're going to be starting that pretty soon in the city.

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 You know, conditions change within a five-year span.

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 As I said, we don't often see comp plan amendments.

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 But you can amend the comp plan for maybe specific parcels or specific areas and not undertake

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 And our -- the 2019 code provides provisions for that, some processes as well as criteria

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 And it really -- it looks at maybe changing conditions, trends in certain specific areas

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 where we may want to amend that land use plan, particularly that land use map.

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 It follows the zoning procedure.

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 So staff would recommend approval or denial.

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 There is a public hearing that's required with a public notification.

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 PNZ will provide a recommendation and then council would approve it.

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 So here's a couple of maps because we're planners, so we have to look at maps.

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 On your left here is a depiction of our city of Denton boundaries.

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 Generally where they are, that is in the yellow sort of color.

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 So you can see our ETJ extends pretty far past our boundaries.

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 So here's what our ETJ map looks like.

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 And then we have a map you all know and love.

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 That is our future land use map.

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 And that really is one of our guiding documents within our city.

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 We look to that when we're looking at really anything that we do.

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 Here's the Denton plan 2030 cover just so we all remember what it looks like.

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 We also -- you see zoning minutes, that's probably one of the major things that you

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 You see them often.

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 This is a regulatory tool and it allows us to implement our comprehensive plan.

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 The Texas local government code outlines what zoning regulates.

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 And that is height, number of stories, size of buildings, percentage of lot that can be

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 and then historical designations and building bulk.

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 A zoning amendment or a zoning just broadly has two parts.

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 It has a map and then it also has that code, the text that tells you what that map means

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 and what all of those colors on the map mean.

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 And in our 2019 Denton development code just to give you a lay of the land, our subchapter

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 And we'll look at that chart in just a minute.

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 If someone -- if a property owner or developer wants to amend the zoning map, so they want

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 to change the color or the zoning designation on a map, they would follow the procedures

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 It does require a public hearing, so it requires that notification, both mailing -- or mailing

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 notification on the website, signs on the property and also publication in the paper.

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 It comes to the Planning and Zoning Commission for a recommendation and then City Council

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 I don't know if you all have really had a time to dig into the 2019 code, but our land

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 All of the zoning districts are the top row.

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 Those correspond to colors on a map.

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 So all of these colors will tell you what zoning district you have, and then you cross

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 So plan developments.

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 It's kind of new old, the City of Denton.

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 Some of those are still developing.

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 But in 2002, the city did away with plan developments, and we just went kind of straight -- we call

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 And they're really intended to provide flexibility for developments to -- where maybe they can't

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 It shouldn't be used if a rezoning or specific use permit could handle what they're wanting

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 a really good tool.

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 Any PD you're going to look at will include a map, and then development standards.

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 And those development standards should address any deviations from the Denton development

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 One caveat, the code does not allow deviations from any gas well regulations, environmental

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 In order to enact a PD or to make a major amendment to a PD, it follows that zoning

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 process, and that is the two public hearings, one at P&Z and one at council.

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 This is Teasley Lane, if you're familiar, and then here's 2499 kind of snaking up.

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 any specific zoning district, but they just require a little additional scrutiny.

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 Maybe there is activities associated with that use that could create impacts for the

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 surrounding property.

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 So it requires a little closer look from both staff, planning and zoning, and city council.

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 What we want to do is ensure there's compatibility with those surrounding properties and if there

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 are impacts, there's mitigation for those impacts.

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 If you look at the use tables in subchapter 5, anything marked with an S, that requires

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 an SUP.

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 We typically require a site plan, a landscape plan, and elevations of any structures at

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 a minimum with SUPs.

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 Sometimes additional studies are needed, things like traffic impact analysis, maybe even drainage

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 analysis, something to that effect, and it once again follows the dual public hearing

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 procedure, P and Z, council, notification, and then ultimate approval by council or denial.

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 Here's an SUP that may look familiar.

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 This was a multifamily development that came before you earlier this summer, and we looked

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 at the site plan, see where those buildings were placed in relationship to the surrounding

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 neighborhoods.

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 We looked at the landscape plan, see what kind of buffers were between that use and

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 any adjacent properties, and then we also looked at transportation in the area, make

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 sure traffic impacts were mitigated and that we had a full understanding of what those

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 impacts would be for that use.

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 And then we come to the flexibility and relief section.

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 So I know I've mentioned environmental regulations or environmentally sensitive areas this evening.

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 Wanted to go in a little bit further detail.

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 I know you've got a project that's coming before you tonight that addresses those.

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 We'll just hit on some high points.

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 So our environmentally sensitive areas are addressed in section 7.4 in the debt and development

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 code.

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 That's where those regulations are.

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 These are areas that are natural or ecological resources and where we limit the land-disturbing

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 activity.

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 And we really have three that we see most often in terms of development.

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 Cross-timbers upland habitat, those are the remnants of the cross-timbers forest.

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 They have to be at least 10 acres or larger.

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 And residential development may remove 50% of the habitat, and then non-residential development

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 can remove 30%.

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 So when you think cross-timbers upland habitat, think trees.

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 That's really what that is.

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 It's the habitat of that old forest.

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 A riparian buffer or water-related, those are areas near either within 50 or 100 feet

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 of a center line of a stream or on the outer edge of a water body or something like a wetland.

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 New structures are prohibited, and vegetation removal is prohibited, except for maybe some

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 small vines or brush where they needed that for drainage, needed to clear it.

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 And then undeveloped floodplain, that's something -- riparian buffers and undeveloped floodplain

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 are often nested together.

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 They're kind of put on top of each other.

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 Undeveloped floodplain is within that FEMA 100-year floodplain, and it has to be in a

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 natural state.

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 It's treated the same way that riparian buffers are treated.

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 So because development activity in these environmentally sensitive areas is limited, we do have a relief

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 procedure in subchapter 2, and that is the alternative ESA plan, which is what you're

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 going to be discussing tonight.

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 It provides an option for developers.

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 It provides a flexible discretionary process to address not only, you know, the intent

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 of why those ESAs are there, to that environmental protection, but also what mitigation they

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 can provide and how that development is going to move forward.

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 It follows the zoning procedure, the two public hearings, public notification, recommendation,

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 and then approval or denial by council.

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 And here is just a map of some of our ESAs.

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 So you can see there are sort of fingers that snake through our city, and these are kind

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 of all of them, once again, nested on top of each other.

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 But you can see that there are times and instances where the ESAs and the development may create

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 some conflict or some overlap.

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 And so that's why we've got that alternative ESA process, for us to take a little closer

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 look at it, make sure that we're protecting the environment, but also providing some flexibility.

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 And then platting.

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 We see a lot of platts.

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 Typically they're on your consent agenda.

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 So the subdivision section in subchapter 2 outlines a lot of platts.

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 We're just going to talk about the preliminary, final, and replat and the vacating platts.

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 So preliminary plat is what it says.

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 It really is that first look, that first review of an overall plan for a subdivision.

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 Both residential and commercial, it will lay out lots, roads, driveways, utilities, drainage.

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 It is that conceptual preliminary review of that development.

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 We look to make sure lots meet the minimum dimensions for the zoning district and also

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 demonstrate that there's adequate access and infrastructure would be provided.

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 Staff will review it and provide a recommendation.

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 You'll see this column maybe looks a little different than how you've always addressed

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 it and that P&Z can either approve or deny a plat and we're going to talk about that

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 shortly.

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 Final plat is it ensures compliance with all standards.

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 Once it is approved and recorded, it becomes a legal lot of record.

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 We do also have within subchapter 2 administratively approved platts.

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 The code does not give -- an administratively approved plat is one that staff would approve.

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 It wouldn't come to P&Z.

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 However, staff does not have the ability to deny a plat.

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 So if we were going to recommend denial because it didn't meet all the standards, it would

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 come to the planning and zoning commission.

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 So there are times when you will see an administratively approved plat.

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 Replat is something you see.

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 It just modifies an existing platted lot, either boundaries, easements, number of lots.

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 Once again, you can approve or deny.

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 What's a little different about replats is if it's a residential replat there is per

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 the Texas local government code and notification requirement.

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 And then we have vacating plat.

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 That essentially eliminates a platted lot, kind of just starts over.

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 So we just want to look at some parts of the plat just to make sure we all knew where all

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 of the bits of a plat are found.

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 All plat should have a vicinity map and a north arrow and a scale.

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 That's pretty standard for any map, as well as a legend.

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 There is an approval block.

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 So whomever approves it, either staff or P&Z, that will be a signature line.

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 The P&Z chair often has to sign a bunch of plat after the planning and zoning commission

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 meetings and those are those approved plat.

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 The face of the plat will depict the property boundaries, lot lines, any right of way dedication,

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 easements, lot and block number, survey.

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 There's lots of information here on the drawing part.

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 They do have a meets and bounds legal description.

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 Often we get a lot of calls at the planning, at development services, they say, well, I've

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 got a survey that I got when I bought my property, isn't my property platted?

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 And plats do look a lot like surveys, but one of the key differences is a plat is going

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 to show this big, long meets and bounds legal description.

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 A plat will take this legal description, define it, provide that drawing, and it will assign

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 a lot and block to it.

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 So you know, that's kind of a shorthand to talk to the public because it can be confusing

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 because they look a lot alike.

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 There's also a dedication and owner's signature on a plat and then a title block and that's

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 going to define that subdivision name.

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 If it's a replat, it will reference previous plat, the size of the tract and then the survey

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 and jurisdiction.

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 And now we come to the shot clock.

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 So you've probably heard us talk about it.

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 You may have heard about it in the news.

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 This is a bill that was signed by the governor earlier this summer.

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 And what it does is as of September 1 of this year, municipalities now have 30 days to act

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 upon a plat or construction plans.

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 So that is either approve or deny.

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 We can't, you can't put it off at 30 days, that plat is approved if we have not acted

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 upon it.

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 So it's vital that we make sure we get this process right.

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 I won't go into all the detail about it, but I just wanted to talk briefly about how it

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 really affects the processes in the city and how it affects you.

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 So prior to September 1 of this year, the city allowed applicants to submit applications

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 every day, any day they wanted to, and then we would work through those applications.

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 However, due to this shot clock, we have transitioned to specific submittal dates, and those are

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 to coincide with the P&Z dates because we want to make sure that we always stay within

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 that 30-day boundary.

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 We're now going to require more up front work from the development community, things like

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 traffic assessments, ESA assessments, any FEMA map revisions, those are all going to

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 have to be done prior to submittal for the plat, because sometimes they would submit

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 a plat and say, well, I'm working on this letter of map revision with FEMA, and the

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 plat would kind of hang out until they were done with that, and then it would come in.

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 That luxury is gone.

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 Now that plat has to go to P&Z or it has to be approved or denied.

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 So we're going to need that work done up front to make sure that they're ready to go when

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 they submit.

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 We're going to be eliminating concurrent submittals for plat-related filed applications.

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 So you've probably seen that we'll have a preliminary and a final plat for the same

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 piece of property on the same night.

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 Not going to be able to do that now.

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 They're going to have to really go in that order.

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 So it will be preliminary plat, then civil engineering plans for public improvements,

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 then final plat, and it really is going to have to follow that order.

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 We've been working really hard internally to create a robust completeness review.

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 We want to make sure that projects that we get and the applications we get are complete

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 and sufficient to finish the review.

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 We want to make sure we've got adequate information and they're not -- there aren't missing things

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 because that's going to affect that approval or denial at the end.

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 We're also reducing time for reviews and resubmittals.

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 So previously we had a 10 business day review time for any submittal, but because we only

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 have 30 days, we want to try to get the applicants -- give the applicants an opportunity to have

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 a resubmittal and to make some corrections.

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 We don't want to get a submittal and say, okay, you're denied.

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 We want to get to those approvals and make sure that it meets those code requirements.

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 So we're reducing our time for reviews.

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 We're reducing the time that they have to resubmit so that hopefully when it gets to

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 P&Z, it's ready to go.

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 >> Thank you, Chair.

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 A couple things on the up front work.

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 You mentioned that if there's this up front work that's needed, they don't have it, it

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 has to come to us.

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 Are you even going to let them even submit it if the up front work is not done?

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 Is the city going to say, hey, look, you're going to encourage them, but we're going to

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 have that letter, we're going to have that thing done tomorrow or next week.

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 Are you even going to let them do it?

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 >> No.

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 >> Is there a chance?

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 >> Well, and that's a great question, because right now we're working on revising all of

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 our checklists.

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 You're actually going to see an administrative criteria manual come.

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 It's going to be coming forward.

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 Because we want to plainly say to applicants, this is what we need for your application

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 to be deemed complete, to be deemed filed.

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 And in that way, they're not getting into this endless loop of denials because they

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 don't have what they need.

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 We want to make sure that we're really transparent and we're really helping them know what they

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 need to do up front.

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 >> Okay.

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 And then I know on the resubmittal piece, we've had it before where we've had developers

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 who've come in who said, well, we saw the recommendations from the city whenever the

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 agenda was published on Friday.

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 Is there a timeline you're saying, all right, you have up to the Friday before P&Z to do

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 the resubmittal, or are you saying all the way up to the point of P&Z meeting, you can

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 have a work session, essentially, you can have a resubmittal and we can provide the

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 commissioners at that time, that are y'all going to put any restrictions on up to the

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 submittal, I guess, deadline, so it gets life to us?

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 >> We have created a calendar that provides them an opportunity to resubmit.

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 Because the backup information really needs to go to P&Z the week before, we want to make

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 sure that y'all get an agenda and backup information that doesn't change at the last minute.

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 So right now our calendar has a deadline for when they can resubmit.

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 >> To resubmit.

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 >> Cool.

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 Great.

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 Thank you.

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 >> Commissioner Beck.

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 >> Thank you, Chair.

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 Julie, in the past when this commission is denied something, it still was on the city

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 council.

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 Is that going to change if we can cite a reason for denial, does it stop there?

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 And they've got to go back and make corrections or?

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 >> Sort of.

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 Yes.

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 And I think you hit it there.

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 >> Okay.

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 >> It wouldn't go on to city council.

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 You are the final approving board for Platts.

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 What it would do is, yes, our staff analysis and the approval or denial will be based upon

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 criteria within our code and criteria manuals.

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 They will have an opportunity to correct that.

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 And they'll have to submit those corrections to us.

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 Those submittal deadlines will also be tied to P&Z dates because P&Z has to act on those

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 corrections within 15 days.

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 So it could -- when I say an endless loop of denials, it could -- you could potentially

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 deny a Platts several times requiring resubmittals and then that 15-day hearing on it.

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 So if a Platts is denied, you could see it several times before it finally makes it through.

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 And what we're trying to do is set up processes, checklists, and timelines to prevent that.

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 I don't think it's going to capture all of them, but that's what we're trying to do.

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 >> I think Rich wanted to add a clarification.

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 >> Just wanted to add one clarification, and there's no time limit as to when they can

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 resubmit.

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 So they can resubmit within a week, a month, five years.

471
00:29:56,780 --> 00:30:00,500
 Assuming that bill is still valid, we would just have the 15-day turnaround.

472
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:06,460
 So there is no deadline as to when they need to make those corrections.

473
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:07,940
 >> And then that takes to the denial.

474
00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:14,300
 So in the past, you know, Platts usually have gone through several rounds of review, a lot

475
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:16,260
 of vetting from the staff side.

476
00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:20,100
 So when they get to the Planning and Zoning Commission, staff is recommending approval

477
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,820
 because it meets the technical requirements of a Platts.

478
00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:26,500
 That may not always be the case going forward.

479
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:27,500
 >> Can -- oh, sorry.

480
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:28,500
 >> No, go ahead.

481
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:30,220
 >> I totally interrupted you.

482
00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:34,500
 Can the denial be for the same reason, the same deficiency over and over again?

483
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:42,780
 >> Yes, if staff's determined they haven't met those technical requirements, then absolutely.

484
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:44,420
 >> Okay.

485
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:50,500
 >> So it's going to be a little different that there will be denials of Platts in your

486
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:55,480
 future.

487
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,940
 One last thing to take a look at is the common review procedure.

488
00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:03,340
 This is the final item I want to talk about in subchapter two.

489
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:06,700
 And this is not a comprehensive review procedure.

490
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:12,760
 This really is just that common sort of general terms of review.

491
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:21,100
 So if an applicant, if a developer or property owner wants to develop their land, often they'll

492
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,140
 give us a call and they'll ask what their zoning is.

493
00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:28,220
 That's generally where we first come in contact with them.

494
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:33,420
 We try to push them, especially if it's a complicated or complex development.

495
00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:37,420
 We ask them, they may want to move forward with a preapplication conference.

496
00:31:37,420 --> 00:31:41,500
 It's not required, but it's a really good tool because it allows them to talk to engineering

497
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:46,180
 and planning and building inspections in parks, all of those departments at the same table.

498
00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:49,860
 So it's pretty beneficial for developments.

499
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:51,700
 But it's not required.

500
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:55,700
 After preapplication, they would start submitting applications.

501
00:31:55,700 --> 00:32:00,640
 Maybe it's a zoning, maybe it's a plat, maybe it's a site plan or zoning compliance.

502
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,620
 We would review it as part of that robust completeness check.

503
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,740
 And if it is complete, we've got everything we need.

504
00:32:06,740 --> 00:32:08,740
 It starts the review process.

505
00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:13,620
 Staff will review that, provide comments to the applicant, written comments.

506
00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:17,740
 They will have to make those corrections and resubmit.

507
00:32:17,740 --> 00:32:20,900
 And if it's not a plat, it could go several rounds.

508
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:24,040
 If it is a plat, it's probably only going to go two because that's all the time we have

509
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,140
 for it until it meets all the code requirements.

510
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:33,580
 Once it meets all the code requirements, we notice for any public hearings or schedule

511
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:39,460
 it for any public meetings and then a decision is made on it, whether it's approved or denied.

512
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:44,540
 And then there's that post decision, things like ordinances set to applicants or approval

513
00:32:44,540 --> 00:32:47,300
 letters or filing of plat.

514
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:51,460
 So each one of these has several processes or potential processes through it, but that's

515
00:32:51,460 --> 00:32:57,760
 generally how development goes for each submittal in the City of Denton.

516
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,820
 And that's all I have for boot camp number one.

517
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:03,860
 Commissioner Beck.

518
00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:04,860
 Thank you, Chair.

519
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:05,860
 Just one question.

520
00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:10,740
 And I think I know the answer to this, but no deviation from the gas well codes.

521
00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:14,820
 Is that because our hands are pretty much tied by state law?

522
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:15,820
 Is that our-

523
00:33:15,820 --> 00:33:20,020
 I don't know the answer to that question as to why that's for the PDs.

524
00:33:20,020 --> 00:33:21,020
 Does anyone here?

525
00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:22,020
 Where's Scott?

526
00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:23,020
 Okay.

527
00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:29,940
 No, those really were just items that were, would not be eligible for a modification to

528
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:30,940
 a PD.

529
00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:32,580
 Who decided that?

530
00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:33,580
 Just curious.

531
00:33:33,580 --> 00:33:37,500
 I think that was part of when we discussed through DCRC when we came up with the standards

532
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,100
 for the plan development of what could or couldn't be modified.

533
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:42,100
 Okay.

534
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,100
 Thanks, Richard.

535
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:48,340
 Julie, can you, this question I seem to always struggle with, can you add clarification of

536
00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:53,740
 why a final plat or replat goes to public or consent?

537
00:33:53,740 --> 00:34:00,140
 All replats go to public and final and preliminary are on consent?

538
00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:02,940
 That's a requirement by the Texas Local Government Code.

539
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:07,780
 So it's not, it's not necessarily, of course it's in our codes because that is, they reflect

540
00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:09,900
 what the Texas Local Government Code requires.

541
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:10,900
 But that's-

542
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:14,140
 So prelim and final consent replats are public.

543
00:34:14,140 --> 00:34:17,140
 Yes, sir.

544
00:34:17,140 --> 00:34:19,140
 Okay.

545
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:20,140
 Any other questions for Julie?

546
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:23,180
 Julie, this is going to be a great series.

547
00:34:23,180 --> 00:34:26,180
 Thanks for all your hard work.

548
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:27,180
 All right.

549
00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:28,180
 Thank you.

550
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:30,180
 Thank you very much for joining us this evening.

551
00:34:30,180 --> 00:34:32,180
 The first item we'll dive into is minutes.

552
00:34:32,180 --> 00:34:37,700
 Is there any notations or corrections that need to be added to the minutes before our

553
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:40,020
 vote this evening?

554
00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:43,060
 Great.

555
00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:51,780
 On the consent agenda, does anyone have any questions or clarification on any of the items?

556
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:53,940
 The only question I had is Cindy here.

557
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:54,940
 She's brokered.

558
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:55,940
 No, that's terrible.

559
00:34:55,940 --> 00:35:05,500
 Well, the only question I had is why is B and C two different plats for different phases?

560
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,740
 That was something we had asked the applicant, they were, as they were progressing through

561
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:14,500
 the review, they wanted to keep the two different phases as two different, as two separate final

562
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:15,500
 plats.

563
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,240
 And so there was really no prohibition against that.

564
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,180
 But we had initially asked if they'd like to combine it into one.

565
00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:25,300
 They wanted to remain to keep each phase as two separate plots.

566
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:26,300
 Gotcha.

567
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:29,020
 I guess those are two different developers, maybe.

568
00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:30,020
 No?

569
00:35:30,020 --> 00:35:31,020
 Yeah, it's both toll brothers.

570
00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:32,020
 Gotcha.

571
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:35,180
 Any other questions on the consent this evening?

572
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:36,900
 Great.

573
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:41,760
 The items for individual consideration, the first one is 4A, to consider and appoint a

574
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,500
 member of the Planning and Zoning Commission for chair and vice chair positions.

575
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,820
 This will be a nomination and vote in council chambers.

576
00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:54,620
 But for the sake of efficiency there, I'd love to have some discussion here about nominations

577
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:59,800
 or oppositions for that vote.

578
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,800
 Commissioner Ellis.

579
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,800
 Thank you, Chair.

580
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,380
 While I would love to nominate you to remain chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission.

581
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:08,380
 Thank you, Commissioner Ellis.

582
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:09,380
 If anyone would like to second that.

583
00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:10,380
 Commissioner Smith.

584
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:14,660
 I'd like to nominate Commissioner Ellis to remain in the vice chair position.

585
00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:15,660
 Fantastic.

586
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:17,660
 It looks like it might be clean cut this evening.

587
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:19,780
 Is there any other discussion, items for that?

588
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:22,300
 That was difficult.

589
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:23,300
 Great.

590
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:28,140
 All right, and then item 4B will be a consideration of Commissioner Cole's reclassification on

591
00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:29,140
 his absence.

592
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:33,340
 We'll just take that in the public hearing this evening, Commissioner Cole, you'll recuse

593
00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:37,180
 yourself from that discussion and vote.

594
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:40,940
 And then we have 4C, a presentation by Roman.

595
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:42,740
 Is he here?

596
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:44,940
 Do you have a presentation for this?

597
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:45,940
 Yes, I do.

598
00:36:45,940 --> 00:36:48,780
 Do you want to present this evening or now or?

599
00:36:48,780 --> 00:36:51,780
 Yeah, I can do that.

600
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:52,780
 Sure.

601
00:36:52,780 --> 00:36:53,780
 All right.

602
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:54,780
 Give me one minute here.

603
00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:55,780
 Where are we going?

604
00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:56,780
 One second here.

605
00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:23,780
 I'm going to go ahead and put this in the public hearing.

606
00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:35,740
 This is to ask for a recommendation, to consider making a recommendation to city council regarding

607
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:39,500
 a resolution adopting the Visions, Values, Statements, Goals, Policies, Recommendations

608
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:44,180
 and the Implementation Matrix of the Denton Historic Preservation Plan.

609
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:48,140
 As you know, the original plan was adapted in 1985.

610
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:52,140
 That plan really was an impetus for a lot of significant historic preservation in the

611
00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:53,340
 city of Denton.

612
00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:55,300
 Many of the objectives in that plan were met.

613
00:37:55,300 --> 00:38:00,340
 The creation of districts, the land marking of homes and a lot of things.

614
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:02,400
 And yet there were very different problems.

615
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,820
 This is an excerpt from that plan.

616
00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:08,260
 In the 1980s, there was, I guess, a lot more blight and decay.

617
00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:13,980
 So you have this note from page one that to the community, historic preservation offers

618
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:18,820
 a possibility of reversing what is otherwise an inevitable downward spiral deterioration

619
00:38:18,820 --> 00:38:23,740
 of the built environment without incentives to reverse that trend and gradually buildings

620
00:38:23,740 --> 00:38:27,180
 will decay and as they decay, their surroundings, their neighborhoods will decay.

621
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,040
 So you get the point.

622
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,940
 When a prosperous city becomes, a neighborhood becomes a slum.

623
00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:35,100
 So we were faced with really different problems.

624
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:40,980
 And I don't know, I won't credit the plan or the creation of historic districts or conservation

625
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:46,580
 districts to that, nor the Main Street District, which was created soon thereafter.

626
00:38:46,580 --> 00:38:52,160
 But it is what it is, downtown isn't that anymore and neither is any of those neighborhoods.

627
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:59,220
 Another thing that you saw, though that was significant, is what was going on at the time.

628
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:03,940
 It talks here, in addition, residents of West Oak Street had lost protection of single family

629
00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:07,980
 zoning in the citywide rezoning that took place in the 1960s.

630
00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:13,300
 Later, it says that the city council made a positive contribution when it allowed voluntary

631
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:18,340
 backs zoning to single family status at no cost to applicants.

632
00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,620
 And I understand that that happened across the board.

633
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:25,980
 But as an example, what prompted that, here's a current Google Street view of Mounts Avenue

634
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:28,940
 and West Oak.

635
00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:34,300
 You see the apartment building in the middle and when in fact, what was there was a home,

636
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:39,400
 which was scooted back and flipped around and became the back unit there.

637
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,180
 So that the street view you got among all those big, all those majestic historic homes

638
00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:50,040
 was that, that home in the back sitting there is actually covering the original framing

639
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,180
 of that old home that was there.

640
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:57,980
 There were also perceived threats, one of which is almost kind of humorous.

641
00:39:57,980 --> 00:40:02,060
 It talks about the, in this context, the Landmark Commission would like to note its concern

642
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:05,020
 over the increase in the proportion of Dentons.

643
00:40:05,020 --> 00:40:09,500
 Regional areas which are passing to non-resident ownership, non-resident ownership poses the

644
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,900
 danger that owners may choose to ignore the community's best interest.

645
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:17,140
 The problem is compounded today by a significant amount of properties being owned by citizens

646
00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:20,500
 of foreign nations, either directly or through nominees.

647
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:25,340
 These persons, Canadians, Germans and others may wish to be good citizens, but it's difficult

648
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:27,220
 to inform them of community concerns.

649
00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:30,300
 That's actually right out of the current plan.

650
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,940
 But then there were real opportunities and this was the main thing.

651
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:39,700
 What preservation does is residents in Denton's older areas would welcome a greater degree

652
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,660
 of stability than they enjoyed in recent years.

653
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:47,140
 And that's really what conservation districts and historic districts and land marking properties

654
00:40:47,140 --> 00:40:48,140
 is about.

655
00:40:48,140 --> 00:40:52,780
 It's kind of creating stability, it's looking for what homes need to be here hundreds of

656
00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:57,660
 years from now and what we want things to look like.

657
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:02,340
 So getting to the plan, I just put this slide in just to let you know because there had

658
00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:08,980
 been some concern by maybe one or two people, if that, about what all went on since this

659
00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:09,980
 month.

660
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:14,460
 So on the left is a list of input meetings that we've had, community meetings that we've

661
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:20,980
 had across the state, I mean the city, and then we had online surveys with over 400 responses

662
00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:26,060
 and the majority, the vast majority, 80 to 90% of those were people who live in our city.

663
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:30,340
 And then on the right is right out of your staff report on this item, just the times

664
00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:36,940
 that either myself or the Lakota group were here presenting.

665
00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:43,060
 This slide here, I just wanted to speak to, let's see, no, I've got the Lakota group.

666
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:49,500
 What I also want to do right here is kind of insert the Lakota group's presentation.

667
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:54,980
 They will be at city council, assuming this is still on the agenda on Tuesday, and they

668
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:58,940
 will present this slide show.

669
00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:04,380
 So this is about the plan, which I believe is attached in your current staff report.

670
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:08,380
 It has the history of our districts and when they were created, the number of national

671
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:12,060
 landmarks, the districts and local landmarks.

672
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:16,860
 They talk about what is a plan itself, and in this case what the plan was is they went

673
00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:20,620
 back and looked at all of our old preservation plans and our surveys, of which there's four

674
00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:21,620
 or five of them.

675
00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:23,020
 They studied all of that.

676
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:29,740
 Then they have recommendations for future landmarks, economic development ideas, and

677
00:42:29,740 --> 00:42:32,620
 ideas about how we administer this program.

678
00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:38,300
 This is how the outline of the document, this is how they went in phase one and two of the

679
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:41,300
 plan.

680
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:42,780
 This is significant and unusual.

681
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:47,460
 I didn't know this, but the United States Secretary of Interior actually has guidelines

682
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:52,780
 for how you make a plan, number one being you look for the context, what's the history

683
00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:56,460
 of the place that you're looking at, because it's the history of the place, that context,

684
00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:00,300
 that you have to then say, "Well, where do these buildings fit in it?"

685
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:06,340
 The other thing is that you have goals and priorities for recognizing properties and

686
00:43:06,340 --> 00:43:08,500
 then that you involve the community.

687
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:09,500
 So that's what they did here.

688
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:13,100
 This is a list of those things that happened.

689
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:19,860
 Further breakdown of the plans organization, which is not the hundred and something pages

690
00:43:19,860 --> 00:43:21,900
 in it, but it's within there.

691
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:27,540
 These are the four parts of a preservation program as they see it, surveying properties,

692
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:30,980
 community development, program administration, and education outreach.

693
00:43:30,980 --> 00:43:36,980
 In that plan, they have a recommendation of surveying areas, and there's a map, and these

694
00:43:36,980 --> 00:43:38,740
 are areas they recommend surveying.

695
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:40,820
 Surveying is just usually done with a grant.

696
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:45,940
 I think all of them that have ever been done in Denton have had the benefit of a grant,

697
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:50,460
 and then we've gone around like Idiots Hill was surveyed in 2015, the Bolivar Street

698
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:58,180
 area in 2012, and in 1996, the whole city, every building older than 50 years was surveyed.

699
00:43:58,180 --> 00:44:02,900
 Here's what you find out in there, the types of properties in those neighborhoods.

700
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:08,420
 This is some of the recommendations that have to do with economic development, program administration,

701
00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:12,660
 education outreach, and then just two pages here about the goals.

702
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:21,800
 There's four kind of goals in the plan, and they present to the surveying, as I just mentioned,

703
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:28,860
 and then this one is about the engagement in the community, upgrading our website, etc.

704
00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:31,220
 So that's what they're going to present.

705
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:38,860
 And then finally, I just want to come back for a minute to this slide here.

706
00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:43,700
 The Landmark Commission met on Monday, they recommend that the Planning and Zoning Commission

707
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,500
 does recommend a city council is approved.

708
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,900
 They voted unanimously in favor of that with a couple of suggestions.

709
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:53,560
 One of them had to do with the wording in the plan about Quaker Town.

710
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,560
 In the very old plan that I referred to about the invading Germans and Canadians, we also

711
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:03,900
 had something that I found quite funny, just so peculiar, but there at the top, it talks

712
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:12,100
 about the neighborhood and the name that the neighborhood, it says here, many of the structures

713
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:16,100
 that were on the site were moved just across the railroad tracks to an area that became

714
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:21,900
 known as Quaker Town, possibly because of after being moved, the buildings were shaky.

715
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:22,900
 So they were quaking.

716
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:26,740
 I don't know how I missed that until recently, but that was quite interesting because the

717
00:45:26,740 --> 00:45:31,580
 Denton County Office of History and Culture has it right that it has to do with the Quakers

718
00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:36,340
 and that the Quakers helped slaves escape through the Underground Railroad, and so this

719
00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:40,380
 area was actually called Quaker Town because of that.

720
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:45,500
 And so in our Landmark Commission meeting, a new commissioner to the Historic Landmark

721
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:51,020
 Commission, Commissioner McAdams, recommended that we change some language there under a

722
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:54,260
 section called African Americans and Other Diverse Populations.

723
00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:57,980
 She would rather have this wording, which I'll read to you, it's Denton's Quaker Town

724
00:45:57,980 --> 00:46:02,540
 story includes the forced relocation of the African American community to Solomon Hill

725
00:46:02,540 --> 00:46:05,620
 and other areas of Denton's east and south sides.

726
00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:10,140
 While there is a Texas Historical Commission marker in the park that provides some information

727
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:14,580
 about Quaker Town, additional research and survey work for this context would identify

728
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:19,380
 properties, blocks, and areas of cultural significance worthy of preservation and protection,

729
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:21,660
 and then the historic, that part, so the most part of it.

730
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:23,660
 And the second recommendation, you have?

731
00:46:23,660 --> 00:46:24,660
 - Commissioner Pereta.

732
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:29,580
 - Yeah, I just wanna clarify, so right here, this language where it says, where it includes

733
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:34,220
 the forced relocation, is that replacing the previous page where it implies that the land

734
00:46:34,220 --> 00:46:35,220
 was given?

735
00:46:35,220 --> 00:46:36,220
 Is that?

736
00:46:36,220 --> 00:46:38,740
 - No, it's, I'm sorry to cut for that confusion.

737
00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:45,620
 It's replacing the language on page 25 of the proposed plan in your AIS and your, on

738
00:46:45,620 --> 00:46:46,620
 your agenda.

739
00:46:46,620 --> 00:46:47,620
 - Okay.

740
00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:52,340
 - The proposed plan, these, this word language, the top, is from the '86 plan.

741
00:46:52,340 --> 00:46:53,340
 - Okay.

742
00:46:53,340 --> 00:46:56,060
 - On the other hand, we've been getting it wrong for a while here.

743
00:46:56,060 --> 00:46:57,500
 - Okay, and that's no longer, okay.

744
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:02,860
 - So on our, under African Americans and other diverse communities, on page 25, there's

745
00:47:02,860 --> 00:47:07,020
 a very small paragraph, in fact, this would replace the whole paragraph here, that is

746
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:08,020
 inaccurate.

747
00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:12,420
 It actually implies that people just voluntarily sold their land.

748
00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:14,820
 It doesn't mention that they were actually forced to leave.

749
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:15,820
 - Okay.

750
00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:16,820
 And then that's what we're replacing with this?

751
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:17,820
 - Yes.

752
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:18,820
 - Okay, thank you very much.

753
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:26,140
 There's another line that the, there was concern that the plan, one of the commissioners, Commissioner

754
00:47:26,140 --> 00:47:33,540
 Anderson, wanted specifically to see more incentives for local landmark owners, for

755
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:35,460
 property owners for historic homes.

756
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:40,180
 And she asked that we add a goal that would recommend a program for the partial or full

757
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:44,540
 exemption from City of Denton Property Taxes in coordination with other applicable taxing

758
00:47:44,540 --> 00:47:50,060
 doors for locally designated homes, it would be a recommendation, again, it's a policy

759
00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:52,180
 document.

760
00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:57,620
 The reason she thought of that is if you know about Plano, if you have a local landmark

761
00:47:57,620 --> 00:48:03,020
 in Plano that is an owner-occupied home, they have worked it out with all of the taxing

762
00:48:03,020 --> 00:48:06,260
 entities and they do not pay taxes on those properties.

763
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:08,620
 And in the city of Brownsville, it's the same way.

764
00:48:08,620 --> 00:48:12,700
 Those are the only two cities that I know of, and I know a lot about all the city that

765
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:17,960
 have that, and they both, when you ask the preservation officer in Plano how it happened,

766
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,500
 he just says, I don't know, I got here and it's there and I keep my mouth quiet and it

767
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:22,500
 keeps going.

768
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:27,100
 And in Brownsville, I had to go fight before each of the taxing entities annually to maintain

769
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,100
 that.

770
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,460
 But anyway, those are the two recommendations.

771
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:34,380
 They do recommend unanimously that they ask the P&Z for approval, so that's what I have.

772
00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:35,380
 - Commissioner Betts.

773
00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:36,380
 - Hey, Chair.

774
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:40,180
 So your position on that, Rowan, are you in favor of that recommendation?

775
00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:41,180
 - Yes.

776
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:42,180
 - Okay.

777
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:47,780
 So additionally, we have spoken to one city council member who confirmed some of the other

778
00:48:47,780 --> 00:48:48,780
 things we noticed.

779
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:52,340
 We have some wording in there about the Landmark Commission having a subcommittee that does

780
00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:58,140
 a few things that it doesn't really line up with the way our Landmark Commission operates,

781
00:48:58,140 --> 00:49:03,180
 and we'd like to remove that language, but it's something that staff does, and someone

782
00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:04,180
 pointed out that we do it.

783
00:49:04,180 --> 00:49:08,380
 So we don't wanna put things in there that our Landmark Commission's not gonna have time

784
00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:09,380
 to address.

785
00:49:09,380 --> 00:49:10,380
 - Commissioner Smith.

786
00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:11,380
 - Thank you, Chair.

787
00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:15,740
 So going back to that, the goal number two, our recommendation.

788
00:49:15,740 --> 00:49:20,420
 So as an approval, it's just saying make a recommendation for city staff to go look at

789
00:49:20,420 --> 00:49:21,420
 that.

790
00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:22,420
 It's not saying that we have to go.

791
00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:23,420
 We're not approving that, of course, right?

792
00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:24,420
 What is...

793
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:25,420
 Go through that wording again that you said.

794
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:26,420
 - Yeah.

795
00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:27,420
 - Recommend a program.

796
00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:30,420
 So it's just gonna be moralizing that we're recommending for a program to be looked at,

797
00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:32,900
 not actually saying it has to be created.

798
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:33,900
 - Yes.

799
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:40,260
 In the working draft, as you have as an attachment, on page 44 and 74, there's a section about

800
00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:46,220
 incentivizing preservation, and so there would be a goal added, and I think it'd be goal

801
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:49,380
 number 19, unless we put it at the top, so there's quite a number.

802
00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:54,660
 And they can have priorities in 'em.

803
00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:56,220
 Obviously this is gonna be a little bit of a...

804
00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:57,460
 This would be a lot of work.

805
00:49:57,460 --> 00:50:01,940
 So maybe it needs to be kind of a lower priority or a medium-prem or a five-year plan, so staff

806
00:50:01,940 --> 00:50:03,100
 can take the time to look at it.

807
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,980
 - I guess I'll just hate for us to look back on something 15, 20 years from now and say,

808
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:08,740
 "Well, this was in there, but we never did this.

809
00:50:08,740 --> 00:50:09,740
 Why was that?"

810
00:50:09,740 --> 00:50:13,100
 I'm just looking through to see what actual steps after this goes through gets approved,

811
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:17,140
 that there'd be steps towards it, one, and if there are gonna be steps towards it, I

812
00:50:17,140 --> 00:50:20,940
 think it'd be good to know about how many properties that is in the city of Denton that

813
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:26,500
 would be falling underneath that exemption, and then what criteria do...

814
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:29,180
 I think you said Brownsville, and Brownswood or Brownswood?

815
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:31,220
 - Brownsville, Texas on the border, and Plano.

816
00:50:31,220 --> 00:50:33,740
 - Brownsville and Plano does it.

817
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:36,780
 What stipulations they also have on those homeowners for what type of upkeep?

818
00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:40,780
 Because I get like an exemption, "Don't pay taxes because you have these requirements

819
00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:42,980
 to upkeep the historical nature of the building."

820
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:49,460
 So I guess some more explanation on that, I don't know how restrictive this vote tonight

821
00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:50,460
 is gonna be on that.

822
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:51,780
 - I have two thoughts on that.

823
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:55,060
 I mean, possibly right now, so the HLC recommended a program.

824
00:50:55,060 --> 00:51:01,820
 Maybe that wording needs to be recommend studying this.

825
00:51:01,820 --> 00:51:06,100
 We don't have to recommend it as a program, but I think it will, of course, involve a

826
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,420
 pretty intense study there to show...

827
00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:13,020
 - I mean, Carol, honestly, it's not really like, you know, causing me a whole lot of

828
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:15,300
 heartburn or something like that to say that this is gonna be in there.

829
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,260
 I just don't, one, don't know how much weight it's actually gonna have to where we're gonna

830
00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:22,700
 see action come out of it, and two, if there is gonna be action coming out of it, what

831
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,740
 does that look like, I guess, before we start voting and approving things?

832
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:26,740
 - Right.

833
00:51:26,740 --> 00:51:27,740
 - Does that make sense?

834
00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:28,740
 - Yes, absolutely.

835
00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:31,100
 And you're right, of course, in Brownsville, what they do is do an annual inspection of

836
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:34,140
 all of the properties receiving that.

837
00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:39,020
 And if you have any, you know, peeling pain or any problems there that you won't get on

838
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:43,260
 it the next year if you don't take care of it, Plano's, I'm not sure what the maintenance

839
00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:44,260
 is...

840
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:47,100
 - I guess all these goals altogether, let's just say this is goal number 19 of, I don't

841
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:51,340
 know how many, I don't remember from looking at the document, but of all the goals in there,

842
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:55,620
 what is the city's process, what is y'all's process next up then to take those goals and

843
00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:56,620
 take action on it then?

844
00:51:56,620 --> 00:51:59,180
 Are you guys gonna start working on it as...

845
00:51:59,180 --> 00:52:05,660
 - There's short-range, medium-range, and long-range goals, and whoever the historic preservation

846
00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:08,780
 officer is, I would think that that's be their next, you know, that kind of gives you a job

847
00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:12,060
 description there to look at those things and figure out what you need to be able to

848
00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:13,060
 look at.

849
00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:14,060
 - Okay.

850
00:52:14,060 --> 00:52:15,060
 Thank you.

851
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:16,060
 - Jerry.

852
00:52:16,060 --> 00:52:26,620
 - Roman, I know that on your last slide there, you've got a staff recommendation on it, but

853
00:52:26,620 --> 00:52:34,100
 someone was asking you earlier about, do you recommend the changes that the HLC had, and

854
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:41,020
 you said yes, recognizing that we've got a policy in place for this board that a motion

855
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:47,460
 to approve unless otherwise stated is a motion to approve with the staff recommendations,

856
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:52,540
 is that a correct staff recommendation as stated, or is your staff recommendation also

857
00:52:52,540 --> 00:52:57,380
 include the HLC recommendations, or does that need to be specified in the motion?

858
00:52:57,380 --> 00:52:59,100
 - It needs to be specified in the motion.

859
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:00,100
 - Okay.

860
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,100
 - Thank you.

861
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:02,100
 Thank you for clarifying that.

862
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:03,100
 - Sure.

863
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:07,180
 - Any other questions for Roman?

864
00:53:07,180 --> 00:53:12,700
 - Do we need to clarify, I guess on the last, if you can go pack a slide, where we talked

865
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:18,820
 about program, do we talk about, is it a program or is it a study that we look to move forward?

866
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:23,300
 I mean, do we wanna include that as part of the recommendation, just to--

867
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:24,300
 - Recommend exploring.

868
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:25,540
 - Recommend exploring, yeah.

869
00:53:25,540 --> 00:53:31,180
 - I would feel better saying recommend exploring it, letting that go through so that if we

870
00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:34,140
 go through and do explore it and doesn't come back and, you know, when they come back to

871
00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:37,980
 review this, we're not looking at the 1986 one and we're laughing at it, they're not

872
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:38,980
 looking at the 2019 one.

873
00:53:38,980 --> 00:53:39,980
 - It has to be looking.

874
00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:40,980
 - Laughing at it too, so.

875
00:53:40,980 --> 00:53:41,980
 - Yeah, I agree.

876
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:46,340
 - I'd like to strike the program and make it to, I recommend exploring the partial full

877
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:49,580
 exemption from the City of Dent Property Taxes and Coordination with other applicable taxes.

878
00:53:49,580 --> 00:53:50,580
 - Absolutely.

879
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:51,580
 - But let's just make sure to clarify that in the motion.

880
00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:52,580
 - Okay.

881
00:53:52,580 --> 00:53:53,580
 - Yeah.

882
00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:54,580
 - Chambers.

883
00:53:54,580 --> 00:53:55,580
 - That works.

884
00:53:55,580 --> 00:53:56,580
 - Thank you, Roman, for the presentation.

885
00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:57,580
 - Thank you, Commissioner.

886
00:53:57,580 --> 00:54:05,540
 - Moving on to the public hearings this evening, 5AZ18-0013A has been removed.

887
00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:17,020
 Moving to 5B, Sean Jacobson can present to us this replat.

888
00:54:17,020 --> 00:54:26,740
 - Good evening, Chair and members of the Commission.

889
00:54:26,740 --> 00:54:32,020
 Before you for consideration tonight is a final replat of Lot 1 Block A of the Brazil

890
00:54:32,020 --> 00:54:39,140
 addition, so it's a 4.994 acre property at the corner of Fort Worth Drive and Wildflower.

891
00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:44,820
 The proposal is to replat that into two lots of equal size.

892
00:54:44,820 --> 00:54:50,420
 Each one would be, let's see, 2.447 acres.

893
00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:55,020
 Where it is within the city, it's in the NR2 Zoning District, and so both lots proposed

894
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:59,260
 would meet all the dimensional standards of the NR2 Zoning District.

895
00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:05,620
 Overall, this replat meets all of the requirements that we have, and staff recommends approval.

896
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:06,620
 - Fantastic.

897
00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:08,260
 Any questions for Sean?

898
00:55:08,260 --> 00:55:09,260
 Great.

899
00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:10,260
 Thank you.

900
00:55:10,260 --> 00:55:32,260
 Next item is 5C, the final replat presented by Karina Maldonado.

901
00:55:32,260 --> 00:55:44,380
 I'm Karina Maldonado, assistant planner with the City of Denton.

902
00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:49,420
 Today I will be presenting a replat for the Fire Station 8.

903
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:52,860
 It is for Lot 4R Block 1.

904
00:55:52,860 --> 00:55:59,700
 It is to combine two lots, one that was previously platted and one that is unplatted, for a total

905
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,380
 of 5.156 acres.

906
00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:07,460
 This is currently zone RCCN under the 2002 code.

907
00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:15,540
 They will be submitting under the 2019 code, so that will transition to the PF Zoning District.

908
00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:17,540
 Staff is recommending approval.

909
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:24,060
 It is just to, again, combine the lots and provide right-of-way dedication.

910
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:25,900
 - Any questions for Karina?

911
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:29,660
 Thank you very much.

912
00:56:29,660 --> 00:56:34,420
 The next item is 5D, the AESA presented by Haley Zygirsky.

913
00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:44,980
 Commissioner Kohler, are you set out for this one?

914
00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:53,980
 - Good evening.

915
00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:59,140
 This is an alternative, environmentally sensitive area plan for Fisher 59 for some modifications

916
00:56:59,140 --> 00:57:00,780
 to the floodplain designation.

917
00:57:00,780 --> 00:57:05,300
 I'll actually be tag-teaming this presentation with Christy Upton, so I'll try to make that

918
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:08,580
 transition as smooth as possible.

919
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:13,300
 The request before you is to hold a public hearing this evening and consider making a

920
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:18,100
 recommendation to the council regarding a request by Fisher 59 for this alternative

921
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:19,100
 ESA plan.

922
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,300
 There are properties outlined in yellow on the map.

923
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:23,420
 It is just under 50 acres.

924
00:57:23,420 --> 00:57:28,740
 It's located roughly at the intersection of University here on the south side and Mosque

925
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:34,460
 Branch Road on the eastern boundary of the property.

926
00:57:34,460 --> 00:57:36,820
 Notification was sent regarding this request over the summer.

927
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:41,300
 If you remember, this has appeared on your agenda several times since July.

928
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:46,420
 In that time, a few things have changed from what you may have originally read as our recommendations.

929
00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:51,020
 In that time, they've received full FEMA approval of their associated CLOMAR, which

930
00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:55,740
 are the map revisions for the floodplain, as well as receiving approval and a waiver

931
00:57:55,740 --> 00:58:00,700
 from TxDOT for some additional detention ponds that they thought may be required to get their

932
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:01,700
 driveway permit.

933
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:05,780
 But all of that has now been cleared up, and the original plan from July is back before

934
00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:08,780
 us this evening.

935
00:58:08,780 --> 00:58:12,540
 The zoning for this property is employment center industrial, so the distribution center

936
00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:16,220
 and warehouse that is currently being constructed on a part of this property is of permitted

937
00:58:16,220 --> 00:58:18,780
 use.

938
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:21,340
 This originally started back in 2009.

939
00:58:21,340 --> 00:58:24,820
 The original ESA field assessment was done at that time for the two creeks that were

940
00:58:24,820 --> 00:58:26,500
 on the property.

941
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:30,380
 That assessment did result in the removal of the riparian buffer designation on both

942
00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:32,140
 of those streams.

943
00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:39,980
 So the eastern stream had some erosion conditions present, as well as it was already restricted

944
00:58:39,980 --> 00:58:43,780
 by the at-grade crossing at university, so that designation was removed for the area

945
00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:45,260
 that we'll be looking at this evening.

946
00:58:45,260 --> 00:58:48,060
 So now it's strictly the floodplain designation.

947
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:51,940
 And then this western channel, you may have seen if you looked at our maps, there used

948
00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:56,540
 to be a stream there, but as a part of this ESA field assessment combined with the LOMAR,

949
00:58:56,540 --> 00:59:02,980
 which is a letter of map revision, that FEMA approved in 2013, that was channelized.

950
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:10,300
 So what you may remember seeing in the past few months, right about a year ago, in September

951
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:13,900
 of last year, you approved the preliminary plat for two lots.

952
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:18,100
 So on lot one, you can see here in the hatched area, that is that now channelized western

953
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:20,860
 stream that used to be on the property.

954
00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:23,460
 This lot one was final plotted last November.

955
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:27,140
 If you've been by the property, you'll see that they are well underway with construction

956
00:59:27,140 --> 00:59:30,740
 of the distribution center on that site.

957
00:59:30,740 --> 00:59:34,140
 What's led us to the need for this alternative ESA is that that facility is large enough

958
00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:37,540
 that fire code requires two points of access to the facility.

959
00:59:37,540 --> 00:59:41,220
 So they were able to get one driveway onto Highway 380.

960
00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:45,340
 They are looking at a second driveway and have plans for it to connect to Moss Branch

961
00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:46,380
 Road.

962
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:51,100
 So lot two of the plat was separated to allow them to move the building forward while working

963
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:54,060
 through the floodplain and the alternative ESA conditions.

964
00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:58,380
 So if this is approved by council, they will be pursuing that driveway to obtain that required

965
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,500
 second point of access for their facility.

966
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:05,820
 And with that, I will let Christy come up and get more into the technical aspects of

967
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:11,300
 the report.

968
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:15,100
 Christy Upton, Environmental Compliance Coordinator.

969
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:18,660
 And we wanted to let you know about the other field assessment.

970
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:25,100
 So after the plans for this project started, another field assessment was conducted on

971
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:29,220
 the floodplain of that stream.

972
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:32,900
 And it was determined to be undeveloped floodplain.

973
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:41,700
 And it was found to be predominantly in a natural state, and that's the designation.

974
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:51,180
 The proposed encroachment, as Haley has explained, is to construct a drive approach through that

975
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:57,220
 floodplain and over it to be able to access the property.

976
01:00:57,220 --> 01:01:02,780
 And there is a conditional letter of map approval or map revision that has been approved at

977
01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:05,300
 this time.

978
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:13,020
 The proposed encroachments, this exhibit is a little bit confusing, so I wanted to walk

979
01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:14,460
 through it with you.

980
01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:20,740
 If you notice this kind of purplish area here, that is the original floodplain.

981
01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:29,780
 And then there will be 7,775 cubic feet of fill to construct that drive that is located

982
01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:33,300
 generally within that blue area that you see.

983
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:39,660
 And then there will be 11,870 cubic yards of cut in order to compensate for the loss

984
01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:41,220
 of the valley storage.

985
01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:47,020
 So as they construct this area and they're filling in the floodplain, they have to remove

986
01:01:47,020 --> 01:01:53,660
 parts of what is now slopes of that floodplain in order to create more valley storage.

987
01:01:53,660 --> 01:02:01,980
 And that in general will be from the hashed line through this red area here and then also

988
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:04,900
 to the south here.

989
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:13,100
 And then there will be 5.51 acres of that existing floodplain that will be disturbed.

990
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:19,700
 And then .27 acres, generally a quarter of an acre of the existing floodplain that's

991
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:26,820
 going to be permanently removed as floodplain.

992
01:02:26,820 --> 01:02:33,180
 As you've heard earlier tonight, there is criteria for approval for the flexibility

993
01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:45,400
 and discretionary of this process to provide for the deviation from the Denton Development

994
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:50,340
 Code and requiring protection of the environmentally sensitive areas.

995
01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:57,380
 And in general, as to create or expand or improve the habitat that currently exists,

996
01:02:57,380 --> 01:03:04,260
 improve the impacted environment in some manner to maintain the habitat continuity, to maximize

997
01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:11,140
 public access and utilization, preserve the protected area in perpetuity, and create a

998
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:19,100
 high quality development.

999
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:24,860
 So the first strategy that the applicant has chosen is to create a water quality enhancement

1000
01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:25,860
 feature.

1001
01:03:25,860 --> 01:03:32,180
 They'll be constructing two bioretention basins generally in those areas that are shown

1002
01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:34,740
 in red here.

1003
01:03:34,740 --> 01:03:39,300
 And they will be constructed to offset the removed water quality treatment offered by

1004
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:49,220
 that floodplain's natural features to help kind of explain how that water quality enhancement

1005
01:03:49,220 --> 01:03:51,420
 works.

1006
01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:59,180
 The applicant first tried to create a comparison of the standards of that floodplain that's

1007
01:03:59,180 --> 01:04:06,060
 going to be removed in comparison to the water quality treatment that will be provided by

1008
01:04:06,060 --> 01:04:13,260
 those bioretention systems, so they start by determining the storage that is currently

1009
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:17,500
 provided by the floodplain to capture and remove pollutants.

1010
01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:22,180
 And that would be that pre-project water quality volume.

1011
01:04:22,180 --> 01:04:29,600
 They will be, by removing the driveway, they would be removing the floodplain for the driveway.

1012
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:37,340
 They would be removing that portion of the water quality components that would be offered

1013
01:04:37,340 --> 01:04:39,620
 by the natural floodplain.

1014
01:04:39,620 --> 01:04:48,540
 And so to compensate for that, and the volume of the water quality volume treatment, water

1015
01:04:48,540 --> 01:05:00,300
 quality volume that will be treated, is shown in that blue area above the post-construction,

1016
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:01,300
 post-project column.

1017
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:04,860
 Sorry, I'll clean that up.

1018
01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:10,740
 That one's hard to explain and get through.

1019
01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:18,380
 So for the second mitigation strategy, the applicant has proposed to replace and enhance

1020
01:05:18,380 --> 01:05:22,380
 the habitat that currently exists.

1021
01:05:22,380 --> 01:05:30,980
 So for the cut and fill, they will be removing the vegetation from 5.51 acres of land.

1022
01:05:30,980 --> 01:05:42,220
 And then they will be planting six acres of vegetation, all will be a native drain field

1023
01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:44,740
 mix of some sort.

1024
01:05:44,740 --> 01:05:52,140
 That will be 5.24 acres within the current floodplain and then another three quarters

1025
01:05:52,140 --> 01:05:57,780
 of an acre outside of what is currently the floodplain.

1026
01:05:57,780 --> 01:06:02,900
 And then there will be a little over a quarter of an acre that they'll be planting in those

1027
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:10,580
 bioretention systems with the native plant mix as well.

1028
01:06:10,580 --> 01:06:16,820
 For approval, there will be several conditions placed on the applicant.

1029
01:06:16,820 --> 01:06:19,140
 There will be a three-year monitoring period.

1030
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:24,860
 The developer will replace any dead material, plant material within that time frame, and

1031
01:06:24,860 --> 01:06:29,980
 repair any rotted land, remove any trash that's found.

1032
01:06:29,980 --> 01:06:35,460
 There will be an annual report to describe the activities during that period of time.

1033
01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:40,620
 And after three years, environmental services will inspect for conformance with the alternative

1034
01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:47,140
 ESA plan, and then if we find that there's conformance with the plan, then we will issue

1035
01:06:47,140 --> 01:06:50,580
 a final acceptance.

1036
01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:57,240
 In addition to that, the applicant has also agreed to a maintenance plan that you can

1037
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:09,220
 find in the alternative ESA plan in Appendix E, and in that they have committed to a long-term

1038
01:07:09,220 --> 01:07:13,900
 management and monitoring of the bioretention system that would include trash and sediment

1039
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:21,540
 removal and vegetation maintenance.

1040
01:07:21,540 --> 01:07:26,860
 You will find these recommendations in your backup material.

1041
01:07:26,860 --> 01:07:32,400
 I will just kind of skim through them.

1042
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:39,100
 There's the permanent removal of the quarter of an acre of the floodplain, and the disturbance

1043
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:46,460
 would be limited to the five and a half acres, and there would be seeding to replace the

1044
01:07:46,460 --> 01:07:52,860
 vegetation that would be removed, and the construction of the two bioretention systems.

1045
01:07:52,860 --> 01:08:03,180
 And we have struck condition number four, because the applicant has satisfied TechStat's

1046
01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:10,420
 requirements, and TechStat is no longer requiring or has waived a requirement for the additional

1047
01:08:10,420 --> 01:08:15,460
 detention that they were originally requesting.

1048
01:08:15,460 --> 01:08:23,340
 We will also allow for five percent of modifications to that bioretention system that they are

1049
01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:29,940
 constructing and allowing some flexibility with staff to approve up to five percent of

1050
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:35,980
 modification of that bioretention system, but not reducing the water quality treatment

1051
01:08:35,980 --> 01:08:38,260
 that would be provided.

1052
01:08:38,260 --> 01:08:47,460
 And then the long-term or the three-year maintenance period and acceptance is within that recommendation.

1053
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:48,460
 Any questions?

1054
01:08:48,460 --> 01:08:56,940
 Just for clarity, Christine, the water now will flow unimpededly through concrete culverts?

1055
01:08:56,940 --> 01:08:57,940
 No.

1056
01:08:57,940 --> 01:08:58,940
 Okay.

1057
01:08:58,940 --> 01:08:59,940
 Yes.

1058
01:08:59,940 --> 01:09:00,940
 I'm sorry.

1059
01:09:00,940 --> 01:09:01,940
 Yes.

1060
01:09:01,940 --> 01:09:02,940
 I see what you're saying.

1061
01:09:02,940 --> 01:09:04,940
 As opposed to a bridge or something like that?

1062
01:09:04,940 --> 01:09:09,620
 There would be concrete culverts within that red area right there.

1063
01:09:09,620 --> 01:09:12,820
 And they'll be covered with soil, and then native seed will be planted over there?

1064
01:09:12,820 --> 01:09:16,740
 The native seed would be planted within that disturbed areas here.

1065
01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:17,740
 Great.

1066
01:09:17,740 --> 01:09:18,740
 Thank you.

1067
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:19,860
 Any other questions?

1068
01:09:19,860 --> 01:09:20,860
 Okay.

1069
01:09:20,860 --> 01:09:21,860
 Thank you.

1070
01:09:21,860 --> 01:09:22,860
 Okay.

1071
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:40,220
 Does Commissioner Cole hang around here close by?

1072
01:09:40,220 --> 01:09:47,740
 Thanks.

1073
01:09:47,740 --> 01:09:49,740
 So that concludes the agenda for this evening.

1074
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:52,140
 There's a couple items that aren't on the agenda.

1075
01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:57,380
 So I'm going to informally bring these up as a way of just making some announcements.

1076
01:09:57,380 --> 01:10:02,140
 First, I want to welcome Mr. Ronnie Anderson to the Planning Commission Board.

1077
01:10:02,140 --> 01:10:06,740
 We look forward to serving with you, and I appreciate already the service and the volunteer

1078
01:10:06,740 --> 01:10:07,820
 who joined us.

1079
01:10:07,820 --> 01:10:11,140
 And so thank you for being here and welcome aboard.

1080
01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:14,900
 Second, with the one coming on, we have one leaving us.

1081
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:19,540
 I think maybe this is final.

1082
01:10:19,540 --> 01:10:23,980
 So real quick, Commissioner Beck, I have to do this in back-to-back meetings, which is

1083
01:10:23,980 --> 01:10:24,980
 terrible.

1084
01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:27,140
 But I want to say thank you.

1085
01:10:27,140 --> 01:10:28,380
 You and I came in at the same time.

1086
01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:31,060
 So four years we've been serving on Wednesday nights together.

1087
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:34,780
 And so personally, I appreciate the feedback you've given us.

1088
01:10:34,780 --> 01:10:37,580
 We, I think, healthily don't see eye to eye on things.

1089
01:10:37,580 --> 01:10:39,260
 I think it's good for this board.

1090
01:10:39,260 --> 01:10:42,580
 It cultivates, I think, good conversation and good things for the city.

1091
01:10:42,580 --> 01:10:49,340
 I appreciate you in a lot of ways taking up Commissioner Briegel's stance on biking locations

1092
01:10:49,340 --> 01:10:52,780
 for parking and trees and all those things.

1093
01:10:52,780 --> 01:10:55,300
 So I appreciate you being an advocate for those the past four years.

1094
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:59,260
 And we'll see if your nomination for Board of Ethics goes through.

1095
01:10:59,260 --> 01:11:02,500
 But if that goes through, have fun.

1096
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:09,900
 And thanks for -- you won't see me.

1097
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:10,900
 In all seriousness, thank you.

1098
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:12,740
 You mean a lot to this commission and to this city.

1099
01:11:12,740 --> 01:11:15,820
 And so we have -- I'm not going to walk it down to you, but we have a -- I don't know

1100
01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:19,140
 what you call this -- a certificate for you for your service.

1101
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:23,700
 So thank you very much.

1102
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:29,580
 With that departure, I also want to bring up the fact that we will now have a DCRC empty

1103
01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:31,340
 spot going forward.

1104
01:11:31,340 --> 01:11:37,700
 DCRC is a joint subcommittee between City Council and P&Z to go over the Ditten Development

1105
01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:40,980
 Code and other items pertaining to that.

1106
01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:43,020
 So I'm not going to ask for volunteers this evening.

1107
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:47,060
 But if you think about it, next meeting, we will formally have on the agenda the ability

1108
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:49,340
 to volunteer to serve on that board.

1109
01:11:49,340 --> 01:11:52,140
 I'm not sure the current status, if it's winding down or not.

1110
01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:53,140
 Kishalis.

1111
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:54,140
 Thank you, Chair.

1112
01:11:54,140 --> 01:11:56,220
 I can add to that, because I'm sitting on that committee.

1113
01:11:56,220 --> 01:12:00,820
 But generally, we've been meeting on Fridays from 11 a.m. to 1.

1114
01:12:00,820 --> 01:12:04,540
 I believe, and I think Richard can probably clarify this, that it is going to end at the

1115
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:05,540
 end of the year.

1116
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:06,540
 Okay.

1117
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:09,420
 What it appears to be.

1118
01:12:09,420 --> 01:12:12,300
 So it would be a potentially short volunteer service.

1119
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:17,020
 So -- Yeah, but it will be most Friday.

1120
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:18,020
 Please.

1121
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:19,020
 Commissioner Ellis.

1122
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:20,500
 Thank you again, Chair.

1123
01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:23,380
 I can also add, it's great conversation.

1124
01:12:23,380 --> 01:12:27,860
 There's three council people, three people from P&Z.

1125
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:31,420
 It's really good conversation having to do with the implementation and changes that are

1126
01:12:31,420 --> 01:12:35,820
 going on between at the state level and our new code.

1127
01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:36,820
 Yeah.

1128
01:12:36,820 --> 01:12:41,100
 If you all schedule permits, it would be a good thing to fill that void.

1129
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:44,900
 Commissioner Becks is leaving big shoes, but I think someone on this board can certainly

1130
01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:48,720
 do that if the time schedule permits.

1131
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,340
 That's all I have for the work session.

1132
01:12:50,340 --> 01:12:55,260
 We will get a quick bite to eat, but let's plan on being in council chambers at 635.

1133
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:56,260
 Thank you.

1134
01:12:56,260 --> 01:13:01,760
 I'll close the work session at 5 -- no, 622.

1135
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,900
 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting

1136
01:13:04,900 --> 01:13:06,580
 for September 18th, 2019.

1137
01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:12,060
 Seeing that we do have a quorum, I'll call this meeting to order at 639.

1138
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:15,740
 The first item of business is to stand if able and to give the Pledge of Allegiance

1139
01:13:15,740 --> 01:13:16,740
 to the U.S. and Texas flag.

1140
01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:17,740
 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

1141
01:13:17,740 --> 01:13:18,740
 which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

1142
01:13:18,740 --> 01:13:19,740
 Honored by the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state, under God, one

1143
01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:20,740
 and indivisible.

1144
01:13:20,740 --> 01:13:21,740
 Thank you.

1145
01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:49,020
 The next item of business is to consider approval of the amendments from August 21st, 2019.

1146
01:13:49,020 --> 01:13:57,860
 We have a first and a second for approval.

1147
01:13:57,860 --> 01:14:00,620
 Any discussion on the item?

1148
01:14:00,620 --> 01:14:06,500
 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

1149
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:26,060
 I have to say abstain.

1150
01:14:26,060 --> 01:14:27,060
 Motion carries 5-0.

1151
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:32,060
 The next item of business is to consider our consent agenda.

1152
01:14:32,060 --> 01:14:34,100
 Commissioner Smith?

1153
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:35,100
 Motion to approve.

1154
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,580
 We have a first for approval.

1155
01:14:36,580 --> 01:14:37,580
 Commissioner Ellis?

1156
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:38,580
 Second.

1157
01:14:38,580 --> 01:14:39,580
 We have a first and a second for approval.

1158
01:14:39,580 --> 01:14:41,900
 Any discussion on the item?

1159
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:54,540
 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

1160
01:14:54,540 --> 01:14:57,180
 Motion carries 7-0.

1161
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:59,700
 The next item of business is item 4A.

1162
01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:01,220
 It's considering a point.

1163
01:15:01,220 --> 01:15:06,940
 The plan and zoning chair and vice chair position will take a motion, a vote for chair, then

1164
01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:09,020
 a motion and vote for vice chair.

1165
01:15:09,020 --> 01:15:10,020
 Commissioner Ellis?

1166
01:15:10,020 --> 01:15:11,020
 Thank you, chair.

1167
01:15:11,020 --> 01:15:15,140
 I would like to nominate you, Chair Rozelle, to remain as chair.

1168
01:15:15,140 --> 01:15:16,140
 I appreciate that.

1169
01:15:16,140 --> 01:15:17,140
 Thank you.

1170
01:15:17,140 --> 01:15:18,820
 We have a first, or motion, Commissioner Smith?

1171
01:15:18,820 --> 01:15:19,820
 I second.

1172
01:15:19,820 --> 01:15:20,820
 Appreciate that.

1173
01:15:20,820 --> 01:15:23,860
 Seeing we have a first and a second, do we have any discussion on the item for chair?

1174
01:15:23,860 --> 01:15:29,100
 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

1175
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:36,300
 Motion carries 7-0.

1176
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:37,300
 Thank you all.

1177
01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:40,460
 The next item is consider vice chair, Commissioner Smith?

1178
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:43,940
 A motion to nominate Commissioner Ellis for vice chair position.

1179
01:15:43,940 --> 01:15:46,660
 Commissioner Ellis, do you accept the nomination?

1180
01:15:46,660 --> 01:15:47,660
 I do.

1181
01:15:47,660 --> 01:15:48,660
 Thank you.

1182
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:49,660
 We have a first.

1183
01:15:49,660 --> 01:15:50,660
 Commissioner Pernetta?

1184
01:15:50,660 --> 01:15:51,660
 I second the motion.

1185
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:52,660
 We have a first and a second for approval.

1186
01:15:52,660 --> 01:15:53,660
 Any discussion on the item?

1187
01:15:53,660 --> 01:15:58,620
 Seeing none, we'll vote on the board for the position of vice chair.

1188
01:15:58,620 --> 01:16:03,620
 Thank you.

1189
01:16:03,620 --> 01:16:04,620
 Motion carries 7-0.

1190
01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:05,620
 Congratulations.

1191
01:16:05,620 --> 01:16:06,620
 Thank you.

1192
01:16:06,620 --> 01:16:11,660
 The next item for consideration is a consider request by Commissioner Cole to reclassify

1193
01:16:11,660 --> 01:16:14,100
 his absence on August 21st.

1194
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:19,100
 I'll ask Commissioner Cole to step away, and we have a discussion or a motion.

1195
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,100
 Commissioner Ellis?

1196
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:23,180
 I move approval of reclassifying.

1197
01:16:23,180 --> 01:16:24,980
 We have a first for the reclassification.

1198
01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:25,980
 Commissioner Smith?

1199
01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:26,980
 Second.

1200
01:16:26,980 --> 01:16:29,220
 We have a first and a second for reclassifying his absence.

1201
01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:32,060
 Any discussion on the matter?

1202
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:43,620
 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

1203
01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:49,620
 Motion carries 6-0 with one recuse on by Commissioner Cole back to the dais.

1204
01:16:49,620 --> 01:16:56,340
 Next item of business is item 4C, a presentation by Roman McAllen on the historic preservation

1205
01:16:56,340 --> 01:17:00,060
 plan.

1206
01:17:00,060 --> 01:17:29,340
 Or not.

1207
01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:33,060
 So what we'll go ahead and do is we will skip 4C for right now, we'll take that item out

1208
01:17:33,060 --> 01:17:38,700
 of order later in the evening, so that'll go ahead and move us to the public hearings.

1209
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:43,980
 Item 5A, just for the record, has been removed from the agenda, so we will not be hearing

1210
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:48,220
 item 5A, Z18-13A.

1211
01:17:48,220 --> 01:17:56,200
 That brings us to item 5B, FR19-0011, and I'll invite Sean Jacobson for presentation

1212
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:04,980
 on the final replat.

1213
01:18:04,980 --> 01:18:15,740
 And I'll open the public hearing.

1214
01:18:15,740 --> 01:18:17,700
 Good evening Chair and members of the commission.

1215
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:21,940
 My name is Sean Jacobson, assistant planner with development services.

1216
01:18:21,940 --> 01:18:28,900
 I'm here tonight to present a final replat of lot 1, block A, of the Brazil edition.

1217
01:18:28,900 --> 01:18:34,980
 It's a 4.994 acre property, generally located at the southeast corner of the intersection

1218
01:18:34,980 --> 01:18:39,260
 of Fort Worth Drive and Wildflower Place.

1219
01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:48,300
 What is being requested is a replat into two lots of equal size, both to be 2.447 acre

1220
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:51,020
 lots.

1221
01:18:51,020 --> 01:18:56,660
 These lots would both meet the standards of the NR2 zoning district in which the property

1222
01:18:56,660 --> 01:18:58,380
 is located.

1223
01:18:58,380 --> 01:19:04,940
 And as this replat meets all other standards, staff recommends approval.

1224
01:19:04,940 --> 01:19:06,900
 Thank you Sean.

1225
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:07,900
 Any questions?

1226
01:19:07,900 --> 01:19:10,820
 I don't see any questions, thank you.

1227
01:19:10,820 --> 01:19:11,820
 This is the public hearing.

1228
01:19:11,820 --> 01:19:15,700
 Anyone wishing to speak on the item may certainly do so.

1229
01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:19,660
 Seeing no movement.

1230
01:19:19,660 --> 01:19:23,060
 I will close the public hearing and turn today's for discussion or motion.

1231
01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:24,060
 Commissioner Smith?

1232
01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:25,060
 Motion to approve.

1233
01:19:25,060 --> 01:19:26,740
 We have a first for approval.

1234
01:19:26,740 --> 01:19:27,740
 Commissioner Pernetta?

1235
01:19:27,740 --> 01:19:28,740
 Second the motion.

1236
01:19:28,740 --> 01:19:31,340
 We have a second for approval.

1237
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:34,300
 Any discussion on the item?

1238
01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:41,900
 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

1239
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:42,900
 Motion carries 7-0.

1240
01:19:42,900 --> 01:19:51,460
 The next item of business item 5C, FR19-7, I'll invite Karina Maldonado for presentation.

1241
01:19:51,460 --> 01:20:09,860
 My name is Karina Maldonado, assistant planner of development services.

1242
01:20:09,860 --> 01:20:17,260
 Today I'll be taking a non-residential replat for lot 4R block 1 of the fire station number

1243
01:20:17,260 --> 01:20:18,900
 8 addition.

1244
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:25,500
 This is to plat 1, previously platted lot under the Denton Regional Medical Center phase 3

1245
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:31,820
 with a unplatted tract to combine them for the future fire station number 8.

1246
01:20:31,820 --> 01:20:39,780
 This is located near the intersection of Brinker Road and Colorado Boulevard.

1247
01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:46,100
 It meets all requirements of the 2019 Denton Development Code.

1248
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:53,620
 The current zoning is RCCN under the 2002 code, and it will transition to the public

1249
01:20:53,620 --> 01:20:57,060
 facilities or PF zoning district.

1250
01:20:57,060 --> 01:21:01,860
 With that, we are recommending approval of the non-residential replat.

1251
01:21:01,860 --> 01:21:07,820
 Thank you for the presentation.

1252
01:21:07,820 --> 01:21:10,000
 This is a public hearing.

1253
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,000
 It is open.

1254
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,780
 If anyone wants to speak on the item.

1255
01:21:13,780 --> 01:21:20,340
 Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and turn to the days for discussion or motion.

1256
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:21,340
 Commissioner Preneta.

1257
01:21:21,340 --> 01:21:22,340
 A motion to approve.

1258
01:21:22,340 --> 01:21:24,340
 We have a first for approval.

1259
01:21:24,340 --> 01:21:25,340
 Commissioner Ellis.

1260
01:21:25,340 --> 01:21:26,340
 Second.

1261
01:21:26,340 --> 01:21:27,340
 We have a first and a second for approval.

1262
01:21:27,340 --> 01:21:28,340
 Any discussion on the item?

1263
01:21:28,340 --> 01:21:35,300
 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

1264
01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:41,900
 Motion carries 7-0.

1265
01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:49,300
 The next item for public hearings is item 5D, ASA 19-001D.

1266
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:55,020
 I'll invite Haley Zygursky for a presentation and open the public hearing.

1267
01:21:55,020 --> 01:22:04,980
 Good evening, Haley Zygursky, Senior Planner, and this will be a joint presentation between

1268
01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:09,100
 myself and Christy Upton with our environmental services department.

1269
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:13,740
 The request before you is to hold the public hearing and consider making a recommendation

1270
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:19,460
 to the City Council regarding a request by Fisher 59 Properties LLC for an alternative

1271
01:22:19,460 --> 01:22:21,660
 environmentally sensitive area plan.

1272
01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:25,940
 The subject property is just under 50 acres in size and is located on the north side of

1273
01:22:25,940 --> 01:22:31,560
 West University, just west of Moss Branch Road.

1274
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,100
 If you recall, this item has been on your agenda several times before now.

1275
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:39,900
 It was originally noticed and the public hearing was first begun in July and since that time

1276
01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:45,580
 it's been postponed a few times as the applicant works through some details of the project.

1277
01:22:45,580 --> 01:22:47,780
 In that time, a few things have been cleared up.

1278
01:22:47,780 --> 01:22:53,660
 They've received full approval through FEMA for their CLOMAR and they have also received

1279
01:22:53,660 --> 01:22:58,060
 a waiver from TxDOT, so there's no longer additional detention required.

1280
01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:04,620
 You may recall those were referenced in the original staff recommendations back in July.

1281
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:09,160
 The property is zoned employment center industrial, so the distribution center or warehouse use

1282
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,680
 that Fisher 59 has proposed is permitted on the property.

1283
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:19,980
 Back in 2009, a ESA field assessment was done of the two creeks that originally traversed

1284
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:21,100
 the property.

1285
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:26,700
 At that time, the conditions in place due to erosion and the existing crossing of one

1286
01:23:26,700 --> 01:23:30,840
 of the streams under university led to both of the riparian buffer designations being

1287
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,340
 removed for those two streams.

1288
01:23:33,340 --> 01:23:36,260
 They didn't meet the criteria at that time.

1289
01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:42,600
 Subsequently, in 2013, a letter of map revision or LOMAR was done through FEMA that resulted

1290
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,180
 in the channelization of the western tributary.

1291
01:23:45,180 --> 01:23:47,720
 That is not a part of our discussion here tonight.

1292
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:52,700
 All of the remaining floodplain on the property is surrounding that eastern channel.

1293
01:23:52,700 --> 01:23:56,860
 Speaking of what has happened since then, in 2018, a preliminary plat was approved for

1294
01:23:56,860 --> 01:23:58,980
 both lots.

1295
01:23:58,980 --> 01:24:02,860
 The portion of the property outlined in blue is lot two.

1296
01:24:02,860 --> 01:24:07,080
 Lot one is where, if you've driven by the property, you'll see the distribution center

1297
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,620
 is well under construction at this point in time.

1298
01:24:09,620 --> 01:24:13,980
 This hatched area on lot one is that channelized stream that I referenced that used to be that

1299
01:24:13,980 --> 01:24:15,780
 western tributary.

1300
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:20,100
 And then the hatched area on lot two is the floodplain that we'll be discussing this evening.

1301
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:24,700
 If this alternative ESA plan is approved, the applicant will be constructing a second

1302
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:26,300
 driveway for their site.

1303
01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:30,300
 They have one driveway roughly in this area on University, but due to the size of the

1304
01:24:30,300 --> 01:24:33,620
 facility, it does require two points of access to meet the fire code.

1305
01:24:33,620 --> 01:24:37,660
 So this would be that second point of access to their site off of Moss Branch.

1306
01:24:37,660 --> 01:24:41,980
 And with that, I will turn this over to Christy now to go more into detail on the alternative

1307
01:24:41,980 --> 01:24:42,980
 ESA plan.

1308
01:24:42,980 --> 01:24:43,980
 Thank you, Haley.

1309
01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:53,700
 Christy Upton, Environmental Compliance Coordinator, and the first component I wanted to explain

1310
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:57,820
 to you is to continue on with the ESA field assessments.

1311
01:24:57,820 --> 01:25:03,060
 There was another ESA field assessment conducted in 2018 that assessed the floodplain that

1312
01:25:03,060 --> 01:25:09,060
 was associated with that stream on the eastern side of the two lots.

1313
01:25:09,060 --> 01:25:14,860
 The floodplain was found to be predominantly in a natural state and it was designated as

1314
01:25:14,860 --> 01:25:18,900
 undeveloped floodplain ESA.

1315
01:25:18,900 --> 01:25:24,540
 As Haley explained, there is a proposed encroachment into that undeveloped floodplain, which would

1316
01:25:24,540 --> 01:25:32,660
 be a deviation from the ESA protection requirements that are outlined in the DDC.

1317
01:25:32,660 --> 01:25:42,540
 And there is a conditional letter of map revision that has been sought and approved now from

1318
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:45,540
 PMOP.

1319
01:25:45,540 --> 01:25:50,420
 A little bit more detail on the encroachments.

1320
01:25:50,420 --> 01:26:01,100
 So we have the 7,775 cubic yards that will be filled within the floodplain that currently

1321
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:08,700
 exists and that fill will be located generally in the area where the drive approach will

1322
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:10,580
 be constructed.

1323
01:26:10,580 --> 01:26:19,780
 To compensate for the fill of the floodplain, the applicant is proposing to remove or cut

1324
01:26:19,780 --> 01:26:25,060
 away portions of the floodplain and that will allow for more valley storage, and that in

1325
01:26:25,060 --> 01:26:31,780
 general is in the areas that are shown in red here up to the dotted line that are the

1326
01:26:31,780 --> 01:26:37,580
 limits of the construction, both on the north side and the south side of the floodplain.

1327
01:26:37,580 --> 01:26:44,220
 That will result in 5.51 acres of the existing floodplain that will be disturbed and nearly

1328
01:26:44,220 --> 01:26:49,180
 a little over a quarter of the acres of the existing floodplain that will be permanently

1329
01:26:49,180 --> 01:26:53,700
 removed.

1330
01:26:53,700 --> 01:27:03,300
 For that deviation from the DDC, the code allows for flexibility and discretionary processes

1331
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:13,680
 to create those deviations and there will be a mitigation for the activity that will

1332
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:20,020
 include creating and expanding or improving the habitat, improving the impacted environment,

1333
01:27:20,020 --> 01:27:25,580
 maintaining habitat continuity, maximizing public access and utilization, and preserving

1334
01:27:25,580 --> 01:27:34,420
 the protected area in perpetuity and creating a high quality development.

1335
01:27:34,420 --> 01:27:40,580
 The first mitigation strategy that the applicant is proposing is to create a water quality

1336
01:27:40,580 --> 01:27:42,580
 enhancement.

1337
01:27:42,580 --> 01:27:46,100
 This will be through a bioretention basin.

1338
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:51,540
 There will be two of them, one located in general in this location on the property and

1339
01:27:51,540 --> 01:27:57,180
 the other in general right next to the floodplain.

1340
01:27:57,180 --> 01:28:06,860
 These water quality features will treat the runoff before it reaches the floodplain.

1341
01:28:06,860 --> 01:28:14,060
 The water quality enhancement, in order for the applicant to kind of create that apples

1342
01:28:14,060 --> 01:28:22,020
 to apples comparison, they created a standard by analyzing the natural features and determining

1343
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:32,660
 the storage of the floodplain that is currently provided to capture and remove pollutants.

1344
01:28:32,660 --> 01:28:36,780
 That would be reflected in this first column here.

1345
01:28:36,780 --> 01:28:45,020
 By removing a portion, permanently removing that portion of the floodplain from, moving

1346
01:28:45,020 --> 01:28:51,540
 a portion of the floodplain by constructing the driveway, the bioretention system will

1347
01:28:51,540 --> 01:28:57,940
 be compensating for that water quality treatment and as you can see, it is a little bit more

1348
01:28:57,940 --> 01:29:04,140
 than what is proposed to be removed.

1349
01:29:04,140 --> 01:29:11,540
 The second mitigation strategy is to replace and enhance the habitat that currently exists

1350
01:29:11,540 --> 01:29:14,580
 by constructing this drive approach.

1351
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:19,220
 They will be removing, or they will be cut through the cut and fill.

1352
01:29:19,220 --> 01:29:28,060
 They will be disturbing 5.51 acres and they will be replacing that with little over six

1353
01:29:28,060 --> 01:29:33,060
 acres of that seeded native drain field mix.

1354
01:29:33,060 --> 01:29:39,340
 There will be five and a quarter acres will be what is currently in the floodplain and

1355
01:29:39,340 --> 01:29:45,100
 three quarters of it in the area that is now going to be the new floodplain.

1356
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:51,140
 In addition to that, there will be a little over a quarter of an acre of native vegetation

1357
01:29:51,140 --> 01:29:55,140
 that will be added to the bioretention systems.

1358
01:29:55,140 --> 01:30:01,560
 The long term habitat management and monitoring plan is to have a three year monitoring period

1359
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:05,380
 to ensure that the vegetation gets established.

1360
01:30:05,380 --> 01:30:13,060
 During that time, the developer will be replacing any dead plant material, repair any erosion,

1361
01:30:13,060 --> 01:30:20,180
 and remove any trash and create an annual report that will be submitted to environmental services

1362
01:30:20,180 --> 01:30:22,260
 for the activities that occur during that year.

1363
01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:27,420
 There will be a final acceptance period after three years which environmental services will

1364
01:30:27,420 --> 01:30:35,540
 inspect for conformance with that plan and if found to be in compliance then issue a

1365
01:30:35,540 --> 01:30:38,540
 final acceptance.

1366
01:30:38,540 --> 01:30:44,340
 There is another long term management and monitoring plan that you can find in appendix

1367
01:30:44,340 --> 01:30:52,420
 E of the ALTA ESA plan and that includes a routine inspection checklist and routine and

1368
01:30:52,420 --> 01:31:00,180
 non-routine maintenance including trash and sediment removal and vegetation maintenance.

1369
01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:06,660
 The recommendations that are found in your backup materials are listed here to hit the

1370
01:31:06,660 --> 01:31:07,660
 highlights.

1371
01:31:07,660 --> 01:31:16,220
 The land disturbance will be limited to the 5.51 acres and the permanent removal of 0.27

1372
01:31:16,220 --> 01:31:24,940
 acres of that flood plain and then there will be a seeding of the native prairie habitat

1373
01:31:24,940 --> 01:31:33,300
 over six acres of land and construction of two bioretention systems with native vegetation

1374
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:36,260
 within those bioretention systems.

1375
01:31:36,260 --> 01:31:41,460
 We have struck recommendation number four.

1376
01:31:41,460 --> 01:31:46,860
 As Haley mentioned earlier because TechSat has waived the additional detention basing

1377
01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:56,060
 requirements and then we are asking the applicant is asking for some flexibility to allow for

1378
01:31:56,060 --> 01:32:04,500
 staff approval of up to 5% of the bioretention system being modified in some way as long

1379
01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:09,420
 as the water quality component is not affected.

1380
01:32:09,420 --> 01:32:20,260
 The following installation there will be the inspection and acceptance period.

1381
01:32:20,260 --> 01:32:23,260
 Questions?

1382
01:32:23,260 --> 01:32:24,260
 I do not see any.

1383
01:32:24,260 --> 01:32:26,860
 Thanks for the presentation.

1384
01:32:26,860 --> 01:32:28,260
 This is a public hearing.

1385
01:32:28,260 --> 01:32:37,300
 Anyone wishing to speak on this item may certainly do so.

1386
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:42,060
 Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and turn the dais for discussion or motion.

1387
01:32:42,060 --> 01:32:43,060
 Commissioner Smith.

1388
01:32:43,060 --> 01:32:44,060
 Motion to approve.

1389
01:32:44,060 --> 01:32:48,780
 We have a first for approval and just for clarification does that include all staff

1390
01:32:48,780 --> 01:32:49,780
 recommendations?

1391
01:32:49,780 --> 01:32:50,780
 Okay.

1392
01:32:50,780 --> 01:32:51,780
 Seven strike four.

1393
01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:52,780
 Commissioner Pernetta.

1394
01:32:52,780 --> 01:32:53,780
 Second the motion.

1395
01:32:53,780 --> 01:32:57,060
 We have a first and a second for approval.

1396
01:32:57,060 --> 01:33:00,540
 Any discussion on the item?

1397
01:33:00,540 --> 01:33:05,540
 Seeing none, I will call for a vote on the board.

1398
01:33:05,540 --> 01:33:14,420
 Motion carries 6-0 with one recusal.

1399
01:33:14,420 --> 01:33:19,700
 With that I invite Commissioner Cole back to the dais.

1400
01:33:19,700 --> 01:33:20,700
 That concludes the public hearing.

1401
01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:22,860
 Let's give them back in the agenda one page.

1402
01:33:22,860 --> 01:33:29,380
 We are going to go to item 4C for presentation from Roland McAllen about the historic preservation

1403
01:33:29,380 --> 01:33:30,380
 plan.

1404
01:33:30,380 --> 01:33:31,380
 Thank you, Chair.

1405
01:33:31,380 --> 01:33:32,380
 Good evening, commissioners.

1406
01:33:32,380 --> 01:33:47,660
 I'm Roman McAllen, the historic preservation officer, and I have an item for you here.

1407
01:33:47,660 --> 01:33:54,020
 I'm going to ask you to consider the historic preservation plan for the City of Denton and

1408
01:33:54,020 --> 01:33:59,140
 to hold a public meeting and consider recommending to City Council regarding a resolution adopting

1409
01:33:59,140 --> 01:34:04,540
 the vision, value statements, goals, policies, recommendations and the implementation matrix

1410
01:34:04,540 --> 01:34:08,020
 as proposed in the Denton historic preservation plan.

1411
01:34:08,020 --> 01:34:09,980
 A little bit about where we are today.

1412
01:34:09,980 --> 01:34:15,540
 The current preservation plan for the City of Denton was adopted in 1985, and that plan

1413
01:34:15,540 --> 01:34:21,460
 was the impetus for significant historic preservation efforts in Denton, and many of the objectives

1414
01:34:21,460 --> 01:34:27,180
 of that plan were met, including local landmarks and the creation of districts and just the

1415
01:34:27,180 --> 01:34:30,680
 operation within the City in general.

1416
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:36,300
 An excerpt from page one of the 1986 plan shows you that at the time there were very

1417
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:42,900
 different problems in the late 1980s, and this paragraph kind of gets to that point.

1418
01:34:42,900 --> 01:34:47,600
 It says that to the community, it, meaning historic preservation, offers the possibility

1419
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:53,500
 of reversing what is otherwise an inevitable downward spiral, the deterioration of the

1420
01:34:53,500 --> 01:34:58,100
 built environment, without incentives to reverse the trend, buildings gradually decay, and

1421
01:34:58,100 --> 01:35:04,500
 as they decay, their surroundings, their neighborhoods decay, businesses seek, seeking low overhead

1422
01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:10,140
 and owners and renters who may take few pains with the property to replace the earlier proud

1423
01:35:10,140 --> 01:35:13,420
 owners or lessers.

1424
01:35:13,420 --> 01:35:16,940
 The unfortunate part of this trend from the point of view of city management is that tax

1425
01:35:16,940 --> 01:35:21,740
 revenues just go down, and as you see, it's about blight, and we didn't, and so that was

1426
01:35:21,740 --> 01:35:22,740
 the problem back then.

1427
01:35:22,740 --> 01:35:27,460
 I won't credit the creation of historic districts and conservation districts and the Main Street

1428
01:35:27,460 --> 01:35:33,700
 District to the dramatic turnaround that clearly has happened since the late '80s in Denton,

1429
01:35:33,700 --> 01:35:36,220
 because downtown looks fully revitalized.

1430
01:35:36,220 --> 01:35:43,980
 Those neighborhoods have almost no visible neglect, at least on the west side of town,

1431
01:35:43,980 --> 01:35:46,880
 and so it was a different time.

1432
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:52,020
 Another page in the ordinance talks about what some of those challenges were.

1433
01:35:52,020 --> 01:35:58,820
 In the West Oak area, they had lost protection of single-family zoning in the 1960s, and

1434
01:35:58,820 --> 01:36:04,140
 so the City Council made a positive contribution when it allowed the voluntary back zoning

1435
01:36:04,140 --> 01:36:09,020
 to single-family status at no cost to the applicants, and that was done throughout the

1436
01:36:09,020 --> 01:36:13,020
 Oak Hickory area, where it is all now single-family.

1437
01:36:13,020 --> 01:36:14,020
 Why did they do that?

1438
01:36:14,020 --> 01:36:18,820
 You see an example of it at the intersection of Mounts and West Oak Street, where you see

1439
01:36:18,820 --> 01:36:23,180
 this apartment, roof of an apartment building in that picture, when in fact there was an

1440
01:36:23,180 --> 01:36:27,980
 old home there facing the street like all the other historic homes.

1441
01:36:27,980 --> 01:36:33,060
 That home was pulled back and stripped and turned around, and so what you see there today

1442
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:37,940
 is an apartment building, and then this building in the back is actually a wraparound, that

1443
01:36:37,940 --> 01:36:40,540
 old structure that was there.

1444
01:36:40,540 --> 01:36:46,020
 So people were faced with some instability, and there were also perceived threats, and

1445
01:36:46,020 --> 01:36:52,660
 this section of the old plan seems sort of out of place today, but it says here, "In

1446
01:36:52,660 --> 01:36:57,860
 this context, the Historic Landmark Commission would like to note its concern over the increase

1447
01:36:57,860 --> 01:37:03,380
 in the proportion of Denton's commercial areas, which is passing to non-resident ownership.

1448
01:37:03,380 --> 01:37:07,180
 Non-resident ownership always poses the danger that owners may choose to ignore the community's

1449
01:37:07,180 --> 01:37:08,180
 best interests.

1450
01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:12,500
 The problem is compounded today by a significant amount of properties being owned by citizens

1451
01:37:12,500 --> 01:37:16,180
 of foreign nations, either directly or through nominees.

1452
01:37:16,180 --> 01:37:21,260
 Those persons, Germans, Canadians, and others, may wish to be good citizens of Denton, but

1453
01:37:21,260 --> 01:37:23,980
 it is difficult to inform them of community concerns."

1454
01:37:23,980 --> 01:37:28,020
 So there were these perceived and maybe not perceived threats, but there were also the

1455
01:37:28,020 --> 01:37:31,420
 real opportunities of preservation, which is summarized there at the end.

1456
01:37:31,420 --> 01:37:37,060
 The residents of Denton's older areas welcomed a greater degree of stability than they have

1457
01:37:37,060 --> 01:37:41,900
 enjoyed in recent years, and that's what preservation, conservation districts, historic districts,

1458
01:37:41,900 --> 01:37:43,340
 and landmarks do.

1459
01:37:43,340 --> 01:37:51,000
 They sort of say, "This place matters here, and we think we should stay around for a while."

1460
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,740
 So that brings us to today.

1461
01:37:52,740 --> 01:37:57,800
 The Lakota Group has been working with the city since 2018.

1462
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,700
 Back in about October of 2018, we got started.

1463
01:38:00,700 --> 01:38:05,940
 On the left is just a summary of all of the public input, the majority of the public input

1464
01:38:05,940 --> 01:38:11,020
 that took place in meetings here within the city, including also at the end, there are

1465
01:38:11,020 --> 01:38:14,820
 two online surveys with over 400 responses.

1466
01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:20,140
 On the right is a list which is coming right from your staff report showing the times that

1467
01:38:20,140 --> 01:38:24,740
 either the Lakota Group or myself have been in front of the City Council or Planning and

1468
01:38:24,740 --> 01:38:27,980
 Zoning or the Landmark Commission.

1469
01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:33,900
 Now I want to come back and talk to you for a minute about the presentation that the Lakota

1470
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:44,380
 Group will make to City Council next week, and that plan is presented here.

1471
01:38:44,380 --> 01:38:46,000
 This is the summary.

1472
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:53,180
 They want to just point out all of the things we've done from 1977 to now are partially

1473
01:38:53,180 --> 01:38:57,780
 here, and then down that there are four buildings on the National Register, and there are two

1474
01:38:57,780 --> 01:39:02,800
 districts on the National Register, there are 62 landmarks and three local districts.

1475
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:09,860
 They talk about what a preservation plan is, which in our case was an evaluation of our

1476
01:39:09,860 --> 01:39:10,900
 current program.

1477
01:39:10,900 --> 01:39:17,620
 We asked them in the original RFP for this to look at everything we've done in the past,

1478
01:39:17,620 --> 01:39:24,540
 the most recent survey of the Idiots Hill area in 2015, the 2012 survey of the Bolivar

1479
01:39:24,540 --> 01:39:28,900
 Street area, the 1996 survey of the whole city.

1480
01:39:28,900 --> 01:39:34,540
 Those were all paid for as is this plan, partially by a certified local government grant from

1481
01:39:34,540 --> 01:39:40,580
 the Texas Historical Commission, which watches out for resources across the state.

1482
01:39:40,580 --> 01:39:43,820
 So then they have the plan contents listed out.

1483
01:39:43,820 --> 01:39:45,740
 They have done this in two phases.

1484
01:39:45,740 --> 01:39:49,500
 The first phase resulted in a State of the City report after they looked at all of that

1485
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:52,700
 information, and then they began to draft the plan.

1486
01:39:52,700 --> 01:39:57,980
 As a basis for the plan, they turned to the United States Secretary of Interior Standards

1487
01:39:57,980 --> 01:40:00,380
 for preservation planning.

1488
01:40:00,380 --> 01:40:04,300
 The three standards are that you create, one, the context.

1489
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:10,540
 You look at the history of the place, because that is what allows you to recognize why the

1490
01:40:10,540 --> 01:40:15,440
 built resources matter, or for that matter, the landscape and any other archaeological

1491
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:16,620
 things matter.

1492
01:40:16,620 --> 01:40:22,140
 So standard two is that you develop goals and priorities.

1493
01:40:22,140 --> 01:40:25,220
 You identify resources, you evaluate them.

1494
01:40:25,220 --> 01:40:28,060
 And then three is that you involve the public.

1495
01:40:28,060 --> 01:40:30,060
 So there was a lot of community engagement.

1496
01:40:30,060 --> 01:40:33,100
 They presented here some of it, two workshops.

1497
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:35,660
 We've actually probably had about five workshops.

1498
01:40:35,660 --> 01:40:39,860
 We had stakeholder interviews with some members of this committee, Commissioner Rozell's office.

1499
01:40:39,860 --> 01:40:44,700
 We had one with Alfred was one of the members that was there.

1500
01:40:44,700 --> 01:40:49,260
 And so then we had the online surveys.

1501
01:40:49,260 --> 01:40:53,900
 So the preservation plan is kind of inside of that document.

1502
01:40:53,900 --> 01:40:59,440
 It has the executive summary, the introduction, the vision statement, the four goals statements,

1503
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:01,740
 and then 32 recommendations.

1504
01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:08,120
 This is a summary of how Lakota sees what a plan encompasses, surveying, community development,

1505
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,020
 program administration, and outreach.

1506
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:13,580
 There's an information about survey and documentation.

1507
01:41:13,580 --> 01:41:17,540
 You have a map in there which recommends future survey areas.

1508
01:41:17,540 --> 01:41:22,860
 And a survey is where you get someone who's qualified to look at historic resources to

1509
01:41:22,860 --> 01:41:30,900
 study the buildings in an area or the landscape.

1510
01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:33,420
 From there, they can get the historic context.

1511
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:38,140
 So we have post-World War II development here, which includes styled ranch housing, mid-century

1512
01:41:38,140 --> 01:41:39,300
 ranch housing.

1513
01:41:39,300 --> 01:41:43,580
 They also talk about the fact that we have a lot of remaining O'Neill Ford buildings

1514
01:41:43,580 --> 01:41:45,500
 in our city, which are very significant.

1515
01:41:45,500 --> 01:41:52,140
 And later, they actually recommend that we pursue a state landmark for the remaining

1516
01:41:52,140 --> 01:41:53,580
 resources.

1517
01:41:53,580 --> 01:41:56,900
 And then they talk about there are remaining industrial buildings, like the Morrison Milling

1518
01:41:56,900 --> 01:42:01,260
 Company and the African-American experience in Denton and historic signs.

1519
01:42:01,260 --> 01:42:09,420
 They talk about incentives, program administration, which is how do we handle it as a city.

1520
01:42:09,420 --> 01:42:13,180
 And Denton has been very, let me just step back and say, Denton has always been involved.

1521
01:42:13,180 --> 01:42:17,620
 Since very early on, our Main Street program is over 25 years old.

1522
01:42:17,620 --> 01:42:23,940
 Being a historic preservation program officer is important because that's required by a

1523
01:42:23,940 --> 01:42:26,660
 certified local government program that we're in.

1524
01:42:26,660 --> 01:42:30,280
 So we've been always involved in it a long time and dedicated to it.

1525
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,140
 And then the education and outreach.

1526
01:42:32,140 --> 01:42:36,700
 So within the plan that you have, there are two samples here of the goals.

1527
01:42:36,700 --> 01:42:42,220
 Goal number one is the documentation, the inventory, and the preservation of resources.

1528
01:42:42,220 --> 01:42:47,340
 So you see under recommendations different survey areas within the city and then an implementation

1529
01:42:47,340 --> 01:42:54,260
 timeline and a priority scale as well as in who would be involved in those things.

1530
01:42:54,260 --> 01:43:01,400
 Typically you're surveying would be really staff along with possibly a consultant because

1531
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:06,140
 you can ask every year, which you usually probably get every two years, for a grant

1532
01:43:06,140 --> 01:43:09,820
 from the Texas Historic Commission to do this.

1533
01:43:09,820 --> 01:43:14,080
 Then for example, talking about the benefits of community involvement.

1534
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:20,600
 And so we've got recommendations on better community involvement, upgrading our website.

1535
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,700
 Currently on our website, City of Denton Historic Preservation, you can find all of our historic

1536
01:43:24,700 --> 01:43:30,460
 resource surveys and links to the application for a certificate of appropriateness and what's

1537
01:43:30,460 --> 01:43:32,740
 needed there.

1538
01:43:32,740 --> 01:43:38,220
 Then they just summarize the benefits of preservation, building rehabilitation, revitalization of

1539
01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:41,540
 our downtown, which we don't have a challenge with.

1540
01:43:41,540 --> 01:43:45,180
 Preserving neighborhoods, tourism, and of course sustainability, which is the number

1541
01:43:45,180 --> 01:43:46,260
 one thing.

1542
01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:50,580
 As we go forward in this country with preservation, the preservation movement being essentially

1543
01:43:50,580 --> 01:43:57,180
 50 years old, we're now moving into a time where we're really recognizing that these

1544
01:43:57,180 --> 01:44:03,140
 buildings that have been built have energy infused in them that it's better to repurpose

1545
01:44:03,140 --> 01:44:07,580
 those buildings than it is to take them down and rebuild.

1546
01:44:07,580 --> 01:44:13,660
 So with that, coming back, that's their plan.

1547
01:44:13,660 --> 01:44:19,380
 So coming back here to this current slide, I want to say that in the plan, the Landmark

1548
01:44:19,380 --> 01:44:24,260
 Commission voted unanimously to ask you to recommend to city council that this plan be

1549
01:44:24,260 --> 01:44:27,460
 approved with two conditions.

1550
01:44:27,460 --> 01:44:30,260
 One of them related to the language around Quaker Town.

1551
01:44:30,260 --> 01:44:36,100
 In our old plan, which is the top here on this screen, we had the language wrong about

1552
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:40,000
 what Quaker Town, where it got its name, and specifically it says here that when the homes

1553
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:44,220
 were being moved, that the buildings were a little shaky, and hence they thought that's

1554
01:44:44,220 --> 01:44:45,780
 where the name Quaker Town came from.

1555
01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:49,860
 It was a long shot from Akron in '86, so we're moving more.

1556
01:44:49,860 --> 01:44:51,740
 We're getting better now as we go forward.

1557
01:44:51,740 --> 01:44:54,720
 The Denton County Office of History and Culture has it.

1558
01:44:54,720 --> 01:45:00,880
 What we think is the right answer today is that the community was named for the Quakers,

1559
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:09,580
 who helped slaves to escape on the Underground Railroad, and that is how they named it.

1560
01:45:09,580 --> 01:45:15,180
 So what happened is we went to Landmark Commission, and one of our commissioners thought that

1561
01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:20,380
 the language we had in the plan that's a part of your attached material today, there was

1562
01:45:20,380 --> 01:45:26,980
 a paragraph that seemed to imply that people just decided to leave Quaker Town on their

1563
01:45:26,980 --> 01:45:29,180
 own and moved.

1564
01:45:29,180 --> 01:45:32,720
 And one of our commissioners wanted it to be clear that the language was they were forced

1565
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,300
 to leave, which they were forced to leave, including that one person never left their

1566
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:41,380
 house, and there's the story of a lady, and I'm sorry I don't remember her name, who never

1567
01:45:41,380 --> 01:45:43,220
 got out of the chair in her house.

1568
01:45:43,220 --> 01:45:46,900
 Her house was picked up and moved over to the east side with her in the chair, and that's

1569
01:45:46,900 --> 01:45:54,520
 recognized in the Civic Center, where there's a sculpture there on the wall about that.

1570
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,740
 So the language they're looking for there is that Denton's Quaker Town story includes

1571
01:45:57,740 --> 01:46:04,140
 a forced relocation of the African American community to Solomon Hill and to other areas

1572
01:46:04,140 --> 01:46:06,740
 of Denton's east and south sides.

1573
01:46:06,740 --> 01:46:11,340
 While there is a Texas Historical Commission marker in the park that provides some information

1574
01:46:11,340 --> 01:46:16,060
 about Quaker Town, additional research and survey work for this context would identify

1575
01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:21,520
 properties, blocks, and areas of cultural significance worthy of preservation and protection.

1576
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:29,220
 The historic and cultural resource of Denton, Texas, 1882 to 1949 multiples property listing

1577
01:46:29,220 --> 01:46:34,440
 identifies four original surviving Quaker Town homes that may be worthy of local designation

1578
01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:35,780
 and protection.

1579
01:46:35,780 --> 01:46:40,580
 That's one recommendation they have, and the second recommendation pertains to a desire

1580
01:46:40,580 --> 01:46:49,100
 to see a stronger program related to an incentive for local property owners, historic property

1581
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:50,100
 owners.

1582
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:55,020
 That's why we recommend a program for the partial or full exemption from City of Denton

1583
01:46:55,020 --> 01:46:59,480
 property taxes in coordination with other applicable taxing authorities for locally

1584
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:06,740
 designated historic homes, and that can be found on page 44 and 74 of that document.

1585
01:47:06,740 --> 01:47:11,500
 And so that's what they're recommending, and we recommend approval.

1586
01:47:11,500 --> 01:47:15,240
 We recommend that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to City Council the adoption

1587
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:19,580
 of the proposed Denton Historic Preservation Plan with the vision, value, statements, goals,

1588
01:47:19,580 --> 01:47:24,180
 recommendations, and the matrix, along with the two recommendations from the Historic

1589
01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:27,500
 Landmark Commission for adoption, and I'll take any questions.

1590
01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:29,900
 We do have one question for Commissioner Beck.

1591
01:47:29,900 --> 01:47:30,900
 Thank you, Chair.

1592
01:47:30,900 --> 01:47:31,900
 No questions for Roman.

1593
01:47:31,900 --> 01:47:34,040
 Just a little praise, if I may.

1594
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:38,820
 From one public servant to another who no longer graces these walls this chamber after

1595
01:47:38,820 --> 01:47:44,180
 tonight, I just want to commend Roman for his excellent job as Denton's Historic Preservation

1596
01:47:44,180 --> 01:47:45,180
 Office.

1597
01:47:45,180 --> 01:47:51,060
 He's moving onward and upward to a more rewarding position in his old stomping grounds of Houston,

1598
01:47:51,060 --> 01:47:56,560
 and I just want to wish him and his wife the very best on the relocation and let him know

1599
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,220
 it's going to be missed.

1600
01:47:58,220 --> 01:47:59,500
 Thank you.

1601
01:47:59,500 --> 01:48:03,000
 Thank you, Commissioner Beck.

1602
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:08,420
 There are no other questions, so I appreciate the presentation.

1603
01:48:08,420 --> 01:48:11,780
 This is an individual consideration, so at any time we can have discussion or a motion.

1604
01:48:11,780 --> 01:48:12,780
 Commissioner Smith.

1605
01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:18,300
 I'd like to make a motion to approve the staff recommendations with one change to the recommendations,

1606
01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:24,460
 have it say instead, "Recommend the exploration of partial or full exemption from City of

1607
01:48:24,460 --> 01:48:29,060
 Denton property taxes," instead of saying, "Recommend a program for the partial or full

1608
01:48:29,060 --> 01:48:30,060
 exemption."

1609
01:48:30,060 --> 01:48:36,060
 I'd rather see the expiration of the program not saying that they have to create a program

1610
01:48:36,060 --> 01:48:40,340
 just in case that we do find that it doesn't seem to be fiscally responsible for us to

1611
01:48:40,340 --> 01:48:41,340
 do it.

1612
01:48:41,340 --> 01:48:45,980
 We can have it memorialized in the plan for us to have that.

1613
01:48:45,980 --> 01:48:49,420
 So to clarify the motion, Commissioner Smith, I think I understand you are recommending

1614
01:48:49,420 --> 01:48:55,780
 approval of the verbiage with the one change to the additional goal recommended by HALC

1615
01:48:55,780 --> 01:49:01,740
 to have it emphasize an exploration, not an implementation of a program as a stated goal.

1616
01:49:01,740 --> 01:49:02,740
 Correct.

1617
01:49:02,740 --> 01:49:03,740
 Okay.

1618
01:49:03,740 --> 01:49:04,740
 Commissioner Burnetta.

1619
01:49:04,740 --> 01:49:10,620
 I second with the amendment of the exploration of a program.

1620
01:49:10,620 --> 01:49:11,620
 Perfect.

1621
01:49:11,620 --> 01:49:15,340
 We have a first and a second, any discussion?

1622
01:49:15,340 --> 01:49:17,620
 Yes, please.

1623
01:49:17,620 --> 01:49:25,100
 Just to make sure that that's, except for the recommendation of the HLC that was modified,

1624
01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:31,100
 the other remaining recommendations of the HLC are also incorporated, including the change

1625
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,340
 suggested by Commissioner McAdams.

1626
01:49:33,340 --> 01:49:34,340
 Yes.

1627
01:49:34,340 --> 01:49:35,340
 Commissioner Burnetta.

1628
01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:36,340
 Yes.

1629
01:49:36,340 --> 01:49:41,420
 We have a first and a second, any discussion?

1630
01:49:41,420 --> 01:49:52,180
 Seeing none, I will call for a vote on the board.

1631
01:49:52,180 --> 01:49:56,460
 Motion carries 7-0.

1632
01:49:56,460 --> 01:50:00,380
 Next item of business is our Planning and Zoning Commission matrix.

1633
01:50:00,380 --> 01:50:09,020
 I will turn it over to Richard for updates and then open for questions or new items.

1634
01:50:09,020 --> 01:50:13,220
 I'll just be brief on the matrix this evening.

1635
01:50:13,220 --> 01:50:18,860
 One item will be bringing back the staff analysis updates on October 2nd.

1636
01:50:18,860 --> 01:50:24,140
 Along with that, we're working through just how we will be presenting platting as it relates

1637
01:50:24,140 --> 01:50:27,020
 to House Bill 3167.

1638
01:50:27,020 --> 01:50:31,020
 Early on we have platts as a consent item recommending approval.

1639
01:50:31,020 --> 01:50:34,700
 If we do have consent items, whether or not we're going to have two different consent

1640
01:50:34,700 --> 01:50:39,220
 agendas, one for approval, one for denial, and then if an applicant does want to speak

1641
01:50:39,220 --> 01:50:40,220
 on behalf of an item.

1642
01:50:40,220 --> 01:50:45,480
 So we're working through that now with legal, and we'll have that for the second.

1643
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:50,780
 Right now we're just getting those applications, so none are really subject to that that we're

1644
01:50:50,780 --> 01:50:55,020
 hearing tonight or subject to that 30-day rule.

1645
01:50:55,020 --> 01:51:01,200
 The only other item I wanted to just touch on is some actions that Council had taken.

1646
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:07,940
 Last night they did adopt on second reading the zoning map, so that is approved now.

1647
01:51:07,940 --> 01:51:10,420
 So we're just about there.

1648
01:51:10,420 --> 01:51:12,660
 I think that was the last step.

1649
01:51:12,660 --> 01:51:18,260
 The other fireside park, if you remember, there was a request to modify Council deferred

1650
01:51:18,260 --> 01:51:23,900
 action on that item, so we are working through some concerns with that fence.

1651
01:51:23,900 --> 01:51:30,220
 The only other item, I know Kathy has reached out about a work session for October 23rd.

1652
01:51:30,220 --> 01:51:35,380
 What we'd like to do on that for that meeting is really just have a work session, and it'll

1653
01:51:35,380 --> 01:51:43,100
 be centered around the Hunter and Cole ranches, MPCs, as they will be moving forward.

1654
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:48,700
 So there's a work session with Council on a number of items, and as we're preparing

1655
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:53,980
 for that, we thought it was really appropriate, given that probably most of you or most of

1656
01:51:53,980 --> 01:51:59,580
 us have not really seen what those MPCs were even about many years ago, and so we thought

1657
01:51:59,580 --> 01:52:06,580
 it would be best, rather than bring an amendment with that large of two projects, really, but

1658
01:52:06,580 --> 01:52:12,780
 almost really one, is to really have a work session and explain exactly what's going on.

1659
01:52:12,780 --> 01:52:20,040
 So that's scheduled for the 23rd.

1660
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,980
 The only thing I would like to add to the matrix, I don't have it in front of me, so

1661
01:52:22,980 --> 01:52:27,580
 forgive me if it's already there, is the update on city res zoning, city initiated res zoning.

1662
01:52:27,580 --> 01:52:33,100
 It seems like there was a batch that kept on getting pushed, and I want to do our best

1663
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:38,120
 to not let that go years without getting that taken care of.

1664
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:45,420
 So just the status on where those properties are.

1665
01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:47,180
 Is there any other items for the matrix?

1666
01:52:47,180 --> 01:52:52,300
 Commissioner Beck, do you want to add any parting items for staff to look at?

1667
01:52:52,300 --> 01:53:01,340
 No, I just want to thank everybody for their friendship and just their input on what we've

1668
01:53:01,340 --> 01:53:02,340
 done here.

1669
01:53:02,340 --> 01:53:06,740
 I've enjoyed being a part of this process, and it's been a pleasure and an honor to serve

1670
01:53:06,740 --> 01:53:08,380
 with each and every one of you.

1671
01:53:08,380 --> 01:53:10,460
 But Ronnie, we haven't got a chance to meet.

1672
01:53:10,460 --> 01:53:17,140
 I wish you the best in the future in your position, so thank each and every one of you.

1673
01:53:17,140 --> 01:53:18,140
 We appreciate it.

1674
01:53:18,140 --> 01:53:21,380
 Commissioner Beck, best of luck to the Board of Ethics or whatever your next endeavor is,

1675
01:53:21,380 --> 01:53:26,180
 and I'll be looking forward to your articles in the DRC, I'm sure.

1676
01:53:26,180 --> 01:53:30,260
 Any other items for the agenda this evening?

1677
01:53:30,260 --> 01:53:33,540
 With that, I will close the public hearing at 719.

1678
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:33,780
 Thank you.