1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Good evening at 5 37 p.m. January 15th I will call the work session of the Denton 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Planning and Zoning Commission to order. Our first item of business is if 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:31,000 there's any citizen comments for the consent agenda I don't see any. Does 4 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,580 anybody have any questions on the consent agenda the one item on the 5 00:00:35,580 --> 00:00:48,280 consent agenda this evening? No? Okay and then any any questions procedurally or 6 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,940 otherwise on the item for individual consideration? This is coming up because 7 00:00:53,940 --> 00:01:01,560 Chair Ellis resigned effective after the last meeting and it's also the new year 8 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:10,720 so we would have to do this anyway even if she was still here. So okay so and 9 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,040 the public hearing has been renoticed and withdrawn so we won't be looking at 10 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:24,680 that this evening and so I will move to our work session reports PZ 25034 11 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:31,600 holder report and a discussion regarding master plan communities in particular 12 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Coleranch and BC. Welcome Angie. Thank you Planning and Zoning Commission Angie 13 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:44,400 Manglars development review manager here to talk to you today a little generally 14 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,280 about master plan communities and then a little more specifically about the 15 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,740 Coleranch master plan community so the objective of this work session just 16 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:56,580 provide a brief overview of what MPCs are where they currently exist within the 17 00:01:56,580 --> 00:02:02,200 city give a high-level overview of the history of landmark or what was Hunter 18 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,800 Ranch and Coleranch MPCs and then go into a little bit of a deeper dive on 19 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,320 the Coleranch MPC that'll include the project location the sub districts that 20 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,820 are located within the MPC some of the deviations between the master plan 21 00:02:15,820 --> 00:02:23,120 community guiding documents and the 2019 DDC and then just kind of look at some 22 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,200 of the maps you all would typically see with the development case that includes 23 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,560 phasing mobility and ESAs and then we'll talk a little bit about some of the 24 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,000 uniqueness with Coleranch and that includes developer responsibilities as 25 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:41,160 part of the master plan community and their associated agreements. So having 26 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,600 said all of that master plan community is a zoning designation utilized for 27 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,520 large-scale comprehensively planned developments we currently have four MPCs 28 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,880 in the city of Denton that's the hills of Denton the hills of Denton North 29 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:01,800 landmark or you've commonly heard Hunter Ranch and Coleranch all of these MPCs 30 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,480 that we have today in the city were created under the 2002 DDC and were 31 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:13,480 carried forward with the adoption of the 2019 DDC. Master plan communities they 32 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,920 provide alternate zoning districts and development processes and are generally 33 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:22,200 used to accommodate large-scale master plan developments. If an MPC request 34 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,640 were to come in today it would be processed like a plan development 35 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:31,760 request. So hills of Denton and hills of Denton North where are these these are 36 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:39,520 generally located north of loop 288 west of Locust Street and east of Bonnie 37 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Bray. Hills of Denton and hills of Denton North they're contiguous. Hills of Denton 38 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,720 was adopted in 2007 it's approximately 2100 acres it permits a variety of 39 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,520 residential land uses that includes single-family townhomes as well as some 40 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,680 commercial land uses and then just to the north of that is hills of Denton 41 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:05,080 North it is smaller it's 501 acres and focuses on single-family and commercial 42 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,300 uses. These plan developments have not been amended since adoption they are as 43 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:15,360 they were adopted in 07 and 08 and are situated on the northern portion of the 44 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:26,360 city limits. Further south generally along I-35W we have the landmark and 45 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,840 coal ranch MPCs. Similarly these are also right next to each other if you can 46 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:37,640 follow my mouse this hatching area is where the landmark MPC is it's 47 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:44,040 approximately 3200 acres it was initially zoned MPC in 2008 it has had 48 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:50,240 it had two amendments in 2010 one was to rezone out approximately 195 acres and 49 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,640 then the other was to allow various exceptions to the gas well and 50 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,520 subdivision regulations. Coal Ranch is situated a little bit further to the 51 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:05,640 north and was also zoned MPC in 2008 both MPCs were adopted in 2020 they 52 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:11,080 adopted the 2019 DDC is the base development code with some major 53 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,280 deviations which will go into detail on and then the base zoning for these 54 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,120 sub-districts also transitioned to match our zoning districts within the 2019 DDC. 55 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:25,600 So both Hunter Landmark and Coal Ranch adopted these MPCs which function very 56 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,880 similarly to our DDC they have the same subsections that our DDC has with 57 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,160 accepting some of those minor deviations and outline the various development 58 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:41,400 processes that these respective MPCs would go through as they begin build out. 59 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,160 So now we're going to focus a little bit more on Coal Ranch and just talk kind of 60 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,200 specifics about Coal Ranch and some of the nuances and differences between the 61 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:56,640 2019 DDC and the Coal Ranch MPC. So as I said Coal Ranch is approximately 3,200 62 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,640 acres it is situated entirely on the west side of I-35 it is situated 63 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:08,280 southwest of the Den Enterprise Airport which is right here and northeast of the 64 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:12,200 Robeson Ranch plan development and then surrounding it would be where the Hunter 65 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:20,920 Ranch MPC is located. There are six base zoning districts in the Hunter Ranch MPC 66 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,240 so MPC is kind of the overlying zoning designation outlined in orange but 67 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,600 within that there are there are sub-districts that match what you would 68 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,560 see in the 2019 DDC and so those include Light Industrial, Mixed Use Neighborhood 69 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,840 and Regional, Residential 7, Residential 6, and Residential 4. Along with that 70 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:45,520 there are caps on the maximum allowable units for single-family and multifamily 71 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,720 with single-family being 5,900 single-family units and multifamily being 72 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:59,000 3,200 units. So now we're not going to go over all of the deviations between the 73 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Coal Ranch MPC and the Denton Development Code. There are several some 74 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,160 of them are minor and likely would not be seen before you all but the ones we're 75 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,080 going to cover are kind of the more the major deviations and also things that 76 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:18,960 you guys will deal with on a regular basis including tree preservation. So 77 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,240 first process differences just wanted to highlight a few things that are unique 78 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,360 preliminary plats will continue to come to you all for the Coal Ranch MPC as you 79 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,960 know we amended the DDC back in 2023 making the preliminary plat process 80 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:39,160 optional. One preliminary plat has been seen and approved by the Planning and 81 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Zoning Commission for Coal Ranch and that's phase one and this is just kind 82 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,240 of what that looked like. Another difference is cluster developments where 83 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,800 we consider different densities for single-family to preserve more open space. 84 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:58,080 In the DDC they're only allowed by PD. Coal Ranch does allow them by right. The 85 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Coal Ranch MPC also outlines a couple minor amendments that may be approved by 86 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,160 staff but also major amendments that function similar to a public hearing 87 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:12,280 process such as zoning changes. Those would continue to be seen by you all. In 88 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:18,280 terms of zoning districts the DDC establishes 16 zoning districts I'm not 89 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,960 going to read them all but they're there. Seven overlay zoning districts and 90 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,480 allows for the creation of new plan development districts. Coal Ranch as we 91 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,640 discussed earlier it establishes six base zoning districts and establishes 92 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:38,520 one highway overlay buffer zone. There are some differences when looking at 93 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,440 these zoning districts and some of the dimensional standards specifically 94 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,960 residential 7 lot width is still 50 feet in the Coal Ranch MPC as it is in the 95 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,120 DDC but does have a carve out that allows for up to 40% of the land areas 96 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,040 zoned R7 to have a 40 foot wide lot width for single-family residential. 97 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:05,400 There's also a difference in residential 7 side yard setbacks in the 2019 DDC 98 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:11,160 side yard setback is 5 feet. Likewise the Coal Ranch MPC does carry that 5 foot 99 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,880 setback but does allow for the option for there to be a 10 foot setback on one 100 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:20,600 side and a 0 foot setback or have the the structure situate on the property 101 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,120 line on the other. So slight slight difference there where it does allow for 102 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,600 essentially zero lot line for one side and then creating that side yard being 103 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,000 10 feet on the other rather than 5 feet on both sides. So a little bit of a 104 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,000 difference there. In mixed-use neighborhood the DDC does allow for a 105 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,800 maximum building height of 65 feet. Coal Ranch does allow that height to be up to 106 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:53,600 100 feet and then mixed-use regional DDC has a 100 foot maximum height Coal Ranch 107 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:01,080 MPC 200 foot maximum height. In both of these cases both DDC and Coal Ranch MPC 108 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,160 buildings are subject to height and transition requirements and there is a 109 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:12,280 difference between the DDC and the Coal Ranch MPC. Where in the DDC we have our 110 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:18,920 0 to 50 foot so for any building next to a residential use if it's within 50 feet 111 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,960 of a residential use so if it's a commercial structure coming in next to a 112 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:29,440 residential use or zone property those buildings within 50 feet are not allowed 113 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,840 to exceed the building height in the residential zoning district. For buildings 114 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,840 between 50 and 100 feet away from that residential structure they could be the 115 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,280 height of that residential zoning district plus 15 feet and then for 116 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,960 buildings a hundred feet or further away from that residential zone property or 117 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,600 use they could have the maximum height that that zoning districts allows. The 118 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Coal Ranch MPC takes that height and transition and continues to expound on 119 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:03,360 it going up to distances of 150 feet away as well as 200 and 200 feet away so 120 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,680 for a building in the Coal Ranch MPC that might be 200 feet in height if it's 121 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:13,120 adjacent to a single-family residential use or lot that is zoned that way it 122 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,120 would have to be at least 200 feet away so it takes that transition and expounds 123 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,360 upon it so that buildings that are 200 feet are at least 200 feet away from a 124 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:29,160 residential use or zoned property so it adds a couple of additional steps to 125 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,560 accommodate that additional height. 126 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:39,080 Subchapter four in the DDC goes over overlay and historic districts many of 127 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,480 these don't apply to the Coal Ranch MPC such as the Fry Street overlay and some 128 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,520 of our historic districts situated along Oak and Hickory so those are not 129 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,200 included in the MPC. The Coal Ranch MPC does retain the municipal airport 130 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:58,280 overlay district and it does introduce a highway buffer zone. That buffer zone is 131 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,760 generally you can see one kind of the yellow dashed line outlining the future 132 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,040 loop 288 and does state that no single-family detached platted lot can be 133 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,920 located within that 600 foot highway buffer zone so that is a change in that 134 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:21,400 subchapter. There are various land use differences that are allowed between the 135 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:28,660 MPC and the 2019 DDC but I wanted to highlight a few. The Coal Ranch MPC does 136 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:34,480 allow for multi-family NR7 without an SUP. It also permits single-family in 137 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,160 the mixed-use regional zoning district and permits self-storage in MR without 138 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:46,000 the requirement for an SUP. Major automotive repair is prohibited in MR 139 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:51,440 and retail 15,000 square feet and greater is allowed in the MN district 140 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,760 without the requirement for an SUP. Those are some of the deviations that you 141 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:03,920 might see as projects start to come in for the Coal Ranch development. Gas wells 142 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,680 there's not a lot of changes between the DDC and the Coal Ranch MPC. One thing to 143 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:13,140 highlight is the only approved drilling and production sites in the Coal Ranch 144 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:17,920 MPC are those that were shown on gas well development plats and in existence 145 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,080 at the time of the adoption of the Coal Ranch MPC. Apart from that the various 146 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:32,200 setbacks match what are in the DDC today as do protected uses. Some things to note 147 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,360 differences in environmentally sensitive areas. Some changes were made from the 148 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:44,560 2019 DDC in the Coal Ranch. One I wanted to highlight was credit the Coal Ranch MPC 149 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:49,960 does not allow for ESA that's preserved to count as parkland dedication so that 150 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:56,440 is a difference between the two. It does allow for two additional permitted uses 151 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,760 within the riparian buffer and water related ESAs and that would be the 152 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,800 placement of trails as well as culvert and bridges. It takes all of the allowed 153 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,560 uses within those buffer areas of the DDC and adds on trails as well as 154 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:17,000 culverts and bridges provided that that area is restored and any invasive 155 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,920 materials are mitigated at that time. So tax on a couple of additional allowed 156 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:30,720 uses there. Tree preservation you'll also notice some differences. Preservation 157 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,760 requirements are slightly different in that Coal Ranch MPC requires 35% 158 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:44,080 mitigation rather than the 30 per the DDC and then for replacement rates 159 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,280 heritage trees are required to be mitigated at three inches for every inch 160 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:55,840 removed versus two and a half inch for every inch removed for the DDC. Those 161 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:01,600 are some of the major differences between the two. I just kind of wanted to 162 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,080 go through some of the other plans that are attached to the MPC including the 163 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:12,840 phasing plan that was adopted with the Coal Ranch MPC outlining four phases for 164 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:18,280 development for this moving forward. The mobility plan is the city of Denton's 165 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:23,440 2022 mobility plan but it does help to highlight some of the roadway network 166 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:29,360 that is planned for this area as it begins to develop. You may remember some 167 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,920 of you at least in the fall of 2024 there was an amendment to some of the 168 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,520 roadways in the Coal Ranch MPC boundary and that was to reclassify underwood 169 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:45,920 which generally runs along this area to a secondary arterial from a primary 170 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:52,960 arterial and then to remove a portion of the extension of Amex Road avoiding this 171 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,120 soil conservation lake here. So there have been a couple amendments to the 172 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:03,760 mobility plan recently for this region. And then I also wanted to show just the 173 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,040 environmentally sensitive areas both confirmed and unassessed in the area 174 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:13,360 just to kind of give you an idea of where these are located throughout the 175 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Coal Ranch boundaries. There is as I said the soil conservation lake kind of 176 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,200 situated central and water would generally flow this way and then there's 177 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,000 also some water related habitat meandering throughout the southern 178 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:38,000 portion of the MPC. And then so we've gone over a lot. So Coal Ranch MPC is a 179 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:44,080 large land area and there is a lot of moving pieces to the Coal Ranch MPC in 180 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,720 addition to the guiding document of the MPC that guides development processes 181 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,320 there's also an operating agreement and a project agreement. And that memorializes 182 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,200 the developer obligations. So the developer is responsible for either land 183 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,760 conveyance or monetary contributions for parkland as well as other city and 184 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Denton ISD facilities. The developer is responsible for construction of public 185 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,080 improvements and that includes roadways unless it's otherwise specified. And then 186 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,120 as part of both the Hunter and Coal projects studies were done regarding 187 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:21,960 transportation water and wastewater and facilities to ensure that adequate 188 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,640 public facilities for these areas are able to be provided as they begin to 189 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,640 build out. The findings of those studies identify the infrastructure and capital 190 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,720 contributions required by the developer and the results of those studies are 191 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,920 captured and enforced in the project and operating agreements. So as these 192 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,800 developments move forward those infrastructure and capital contributions 193 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,680 are memorialized in those agreements and that's how they're enforced as they 194 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:56,240 begin to develop. And that is my very high level overview of the Coal Ranch MPC 195 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:02,820 just to kind of give you all an idea of some of the things you might see unique 196 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:07,440 to that development versus the DDC and also familiarize you all with the 197 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,280 various project agreements. So I'm happy to answer any questions you all may have. 198 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:19,640 Yes sir. Thank you. Just real quick going back to the allowed uses and ESAs under 199 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:26,720 section 7 you were going over. So why are placement of trails and 200 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:33,160 culverts and bridges allowed here in the Coal Ranch Development District and what 201 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:40,600 makes their ESAs different from other ESAs in the in the city? So we do already 202 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:49,160 allow for some roadway construction to take place within the various ESAs. Some 203 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,960 of the why I may have to look into and get back to you on how we got to some of 204 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:59,360 these decisions but that's not the placement of culverts and bridges is in 205 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:05,240 line with the roadway allowances for these areas and trails are designed to 206 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:12,200 accommodate pedestrian travel and so to help create sort of a cohesive connected 207 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:17,080 integrated pedestrian trail system my understanding is is that was allowed 208 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,920 however those do come with the caveats like I like I stated that those areas do 209 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,640 need to be restored invasive species do need to be removed and so it's not as 210 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,480 though we're giving anyone a free pass to do construction in those areas this 211 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,920 is tacked on to the the additional uses that are permitted by right in ESAs and 212 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,920 they're subject to those same standards but I'm happy to follow up with more 213 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,080 detail if that would be helpful. Yes that would and if this were if we're 214 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,480 proposing placement of trails or culverts and bridges in the ESA outside 215 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,960 of this area would that require an AESA at that point? Yeah if the if the ESA is 216 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,480 being disturbed it would require an AESA to ensure those mitigations are 217 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:09,800 happening. Okay thanks. I'll I'll have what follow up on that I when you look 218 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:15,920 into the the trails and culverts and bridges I believe we went through an 219 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:24,560 amendment of the 2019 DDC after the 2020 amendment for the the coal ranch and 220 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:31,120 hunter ranch MPC which added trails as a permitted use within you know within 221 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:39,760 certain constraints within ESAs okay so I maybe those are more aligned now than 222 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,040 they were when the MPCs were passed but there may be some differences so it'd be 223 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:53,160 interesting to know the differences so. Haley says that's correct so I'm gonna 224 00:20:53,160 --> 00:21:00,040 take her word for it. Okay any any other questions? I was just wondering can you 225 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:06,440 pull back up the ESA coverage across the property because it does look like it'd 226 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:17,600 be pretty difficult to not cross that and then develop so that's all. I have a 227 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:26,880 couple small ones the when you talked about compatibility setbacks we're very 228 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,960 familiar with that in Denton and in areas where it development comes in 229 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:39,240 adjacent to existing development because this the the coal and hunter MPC permits 230 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:49,280 single-family and townhome uses within MN and MR. I believe our 2019 code 231 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,320 requires those compatibility setbacks adjacent to a residential district which 232 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:02,360 is RR through R7 or a residential use. How do we anticipate handling those 233 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:08,560 setback requirements in the case when there is likely to be a residential use 234 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,680 in a non-residential district it just hasn't been developed yet does that 235 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:22,740 make sense? So commercial comes first yeah so I can speak to that there are 236 00:22:22,740 --> 00:22:30,640 carve-outs within the the landscape buffering that do account for that in 237 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:49,520 that well that didn't work I apologize so today if it is not multitask and do 238 00:22:49,520 --> 00:23:00,280 this so today if a residential use were to come in next to a commercial use there 239 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:07,040 is a minimum of 10 feet 10 points from our buffering table required not 240 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:13,880 necessarily a buffering distance so when multifamily comes in adjacent to 241 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,880 single-family it's the developing responsible for creating that buffering 242 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,320 and that in the DDC when single-family is coming in next to the more intensive 243 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,760 use commercial industrial multifamily they're required to provide some points 244 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,480 but not necessarily the buffer width and so to accommodate for some of that and 245 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,080 some of those situations that may occur like you said this the coal ranch NPC 246 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:42,600 does call out in the MR and MN sub districts when that situation may occur 247 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:48,360 that they provide a minimum of a 15 foot buffer and provide 15 points from table 248 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:53,960 7 point G to create a little bit more of that that buffering separation between 249 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:02,360 those types of uses okay thank you and then is there a place as we start to see 250 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:08,840 more of these applications that we can find the the MPC full equivalent of the 251 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,840 DDC somewhere it's you know the the full DDC is available on Mina code and the 252 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,360 download and that sort of thing but I'm not sure just for the benefit of 253 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:25,220 everybody of where access to these is I don't know that we have those on our our 254 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:29,560 like the website we can certainly look into what it might take to get them on 255 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,920 there in the meantime I can certainly send out the adopted 2019 MPC for y'all 256 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,920 to have on hand okay I think that'd be useful 257 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:49,800 looking forward to our CIAC meeting coming up I know for our development 258 00:24:49,800 --> 00:25:01,440 within the city that's not in the MPC's the impact fees are set and and they're 259 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,360 essentially made effective at the time of platting is that correct and is that 260 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:14,000 the same for the colon colon PC or is it different my understanding is it's the 261 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:22,320 same but I've asked Charlie to come for this very reason yes so the the hunter 262 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,440 landmark and coal ranches would be required to pay the impact fees at the 263 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,080 time of final platting so whenever they go and they're adopted whatever the new 264 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,320 impact fee is that the city's currently working on them that would be applied to 265 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:51,440 them okay thank you anything else anybody thank you very much Angie that's 266 00:25:51,440 --> 00:26:00,640 our last work session report so we will go into recess and reconvene at 630 in 267 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:07,760 the council chambers for the regular meeting thank you 268 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:19,840 good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the Denton planning and 269 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:27,240 zoning Commission at 6 31 p.m. on Wednesday January 15th our first order 270 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,560 of business is the Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag in the Texas flag 271 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:11,040 that brings us to pz 25 0 0 1 consider approval of the December 11th planning 272 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:16,880 zoning agenda minute minutes Commissioner Villarreal move approval 273 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:25,160 Commissioner Padron I second and I will call for a vote on the board 274 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:41,320 that item passes 5-0 that brings us to our consent agenda fp 24 0 0 4 3 275 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:50,200 Commissioner Villarreal move approval Commissioner Riggs and I will call for a 276 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,280 vote on the board 277 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:05,880 and that passes 5-0 our one item for individual consideration is to elect a 278 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,800 chair and a vice chair for the planning and zoning Commission we have a motion 279 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,320 on the floor from Commissioner Villarreal I'm gonna motion to nominate 280 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,840 our current interim chair and vice chair Eric Pruitt for a full term as chair 281 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,160 although we don't always agree on everything I think Eric would be a 282 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,680 fantastic leader someone who's gonna offer a good conversation during PNZ and 283 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,880 be a good facilitator for our meetings so look forward to having you as our 284 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:39,640 full-time chair thank you and Commissioner Padron I second I reiterate 285 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,920 what Commissioner Villarreal expressed I've really been impressed by your 286 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:50,960 leadership Eric thank you I will try to live up to Commissioner Ellis's 287 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:58,760 coattails especially defining all of the typos on the flats call for a vote on 288 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040 the board 289 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:10,920 that passes 5-0 we also need a vice chair and and I see a motion from 290 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,600 Commissioner Padron I move to nominate Commissioner Villarreal as a vice chair 291 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,320 for this Commission I believe with his tenure and then also the work done with 292 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:29,240 the development Ruby board committee he would make a great vice chair and 293 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Commissioner Prado Carrillo I second I'll just echo those thoughts so thank you 294 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,400 for your service over the last three plus years and I will call for a vote on 295 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:56,400 the board that motion passes 5-0 our one public hearing this evening has been 296 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:04,480 withdrawn and renoticed for our January 29th meeting so come back for that one 297 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:12,460 and our last item or next to last item of business is PZ 250013 the Commission 298 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:19,360 matrix report thank you chair Pruitt so no changes were made to the actual 299 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,600 matrix itself since there were no requests from the prior meeting then I 300 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,360 do have several items for your benefit so make yourselves comfortable I have a 301 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,520 list actually a couple of things to bring to your attention our CIA see 302 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,120 meeting capital improvement advisory committee as some of you may recall the 303 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920 planning and zoning Commission members also serve as the capital improvement 304 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,720 capital improvements advisory committee and so with our utility impact fees we 305 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,680 are needing to have that committee convene in February so right now we have 306 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,660 that scheduled for February 12th a reason why I want to bring that to your 307 00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:58,800 attention is because that would have a 4 p.m. start time so for those of you that 308 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240 have busy calendars if you could put that on your work calendar I would 309 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,820 appreciate that so that way we can ensure meeting quorum also if you could 310 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:09,960 please be sure to respond to Kathy's email that she sent you about that just 311 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,880 so we can confirm your attendance which friendly reminder just give it given our 312 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,720 five members on the on the Commission if if you could stay on top of your email 313 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880 correspondence with her on your availability I would I would greatly 314 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,680 appreciate it she also had sent correspondence regarding an upcoming 315 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,680 training event focused North Texas it is a planning and planning profession but 316 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,000 also elected and appointed officials educational opportunity that's actually 317 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,600 locally here in the Dallas Fort Worth area it is on February 21st in Dallas if 318 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,880 you are interested in attending this if you could please let Kathy or myself know 319 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,040 I do have some money is available for training to descend some commissioners so 320 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,640 if you're interested again would would love to afford you the opportunity just 321 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,880 let us know if you could let me know by this Friday that would be great because 322 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,160 then we can take advantage of a reduced registration fee but but I realize you 323 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,280 may want to monitor your work schedules also leading up to that so just let us 324 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,120 know our Development Code Review Committee so our Development Code Review 325 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,480 Committee is in need of a Planning and Zoning Commissioner representative on 326 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,080 that and so if you are interested in serving that capacity I would encourage 327 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,640 you to reach out to Councilmember Beck Councilmember Beck is the chair of that 328 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,480 committee and so I know that he has expressed interest in appointing 329 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,360 someone from the Planning and Zoning Commission to that for those of you new 330 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,320 to the Commission the Development Code Review Committee it is comprised of 331 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,920 three council members and three Planning and Zoning Commission members and the we 332 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,480 also refer to them as the DCRC just because Development Code Review 333 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Committee is a lot in the mouth there so but the DCRC typically is working on 334 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,240 with staff amendments to our Development Code typically their larger scale 335 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:59,160 amendments items that have possibly more that policy discussion and so that's 336 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,600 where we benefit from the assistance of three commissioners and in three council 337 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,960 members for us to vet proposed code amendments through it also then ideally 338 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,080 helps us through the public hearing adoption phase when we get to that point 339 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,000 so that way the Commission and Council can assist us with helping to get those 340 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920 amendments carried across the finish line so again if you're interested 341 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:27,960 please do let Councilmember Beck know so since your last meeting on December 11th 342 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,840 we have had a handful of council meetings so back on December 17th just 343 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480 wanted to share with you the final outcome of some projects that you all 344 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:43,760 had previously considered let me get to that portion of my agenda so the first 345 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,240 item was an alternative environmentally sensitive plan and or an ALT ESA if you 346 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,960 will that was done for Hunter Ranch now known as landmark and so if you recall 347 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,800 that was the plan that had the the opportunity for more of a master plan 348 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,880 approach to addressing any impacts to the ESA areas and then how's how those 349 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,600 would be mitigated over time associated with that development so that was 350 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:16,000 approved 6-1 we also had a consideration of a change in zoning from rural 351 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,520 residential in R2 to suburban quarter this was the six tenths of an acre 352 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,640 property that was located over there on Teasley Lane near Denton Geyer High 353 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:31,840 School and so that was approved four to two on that the dissenting votes had 354 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,400 some similar concerns that were expressed by former Commissioner Ellis 355 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,240 related to doing the quarter study first prior to taking action on any zoning 356 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:49,420 there and then also oh you'll be happy to know one of the primary action items 357 00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:53,480 or first key action items listed on the design downtown Denton plan was expansion 358 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,840 of the Terz district so council approved the final ordinance to allow for that 359 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,920 expansion expansion so I feel like we've already checked an item on the to-do 360 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,520 list out of the design downtown Denton plan so I'm happy to have that being 361 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:11,240 accomplished on their January 7th meeting we had the rezoning of property 362 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,860 from rural residential to light industrial district a light industrial 363 00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:21,020 district is about 16 acres located off of our near Mosh branch and lovers Lane 364 00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:26,080 if you recall Bryce presented this zoning case we had noted it as metal 365 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:31,480 metal towns rezoning this property it shouldn't develop as particularly with a 366 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,680 retail use will probably benefit more residents out in crumb just given its 367 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,520 proximity to crumb being right there on the edge of the city limits so 368 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,960 nonetheless that was approved five to two dissenting votes had some concerns 369 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,600 regarding the unassessed ESA on that property that that was the only case we 370 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:53,200 had that evening and then last night we had another environmentally or an 371 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,800 alternative environmentally sensitive area plan that you had considered 372 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:02,400 previously for Harris Ranch industrial this was to offset about 1.92 acres of 373 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:09,560 ESA area and it is located west of interstate 35 and about 1900 feet south 374 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,920 of the intersection of State Highway loop 288 and interstate 35 so that was 375 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:22,920 approved last night with a vote of 7-0 so that concludes council's actions and 376 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,200 then also if you've kept up with some of the council conversations and there was 377 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,840 a two-minute pitch back on January 8th that mayor Pro Tem Meltzer had made to 378 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,600 allow planning and zoning commission members to participate remotely that 379 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,760 request did receive the four votes necessary to be able to move it to the 380 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,200 next step in the two-minute pitch process which is the development of an 381 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,920 individual staff report or assuming an informal staff report or a legal staff 382 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,680 report as needed so I will keep the planning and zoning Commission informed 383 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,240 of what the outcome is associated with that and then lastly I would like to 384 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,440 thank Commissioner Thagard for her time on the planning and zoning Commission 385 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,080 and she recently had stepped down due to having some professional promotional 386 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,480 opportunities and also wanting to be there for her family but I would also 387 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,240 like to welcome Commissioner Riggs so thank you for joining us as well and 388 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:22,160 that concludes my report thank you that brings us to concluding items 389 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:28,840 anybody have any concluding items Commissioner Villarreal thank you chair 390 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,200 just wanted to thank both chairwoman Ellis since I was not able to be at our 391 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,480 previous meeting and Commissioner Thagard for their work on the Commission 392 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,800 anyone else I'll just think Commissioner Riggs and welcome you to the planning 393 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:51,400 and zoning Commission and Commissioner Prado Carrillo I think this is your 394 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,560 second or second meeting so I'm very much looking forward to our future in 395 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:02,560 2025 as we all learn together and and see what what we can do to make Denton 396 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:11,920 better going forward with that I will adjourn the meeting of the planning and 397 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,880 zoning Commission on Wednesday January 15th thank you