WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:14.320 Okay we are going to call the meeting to order. It is Monday January 13, 2025. It is 5 32 p.m. 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.520 If you will please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:28.080 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which 00:00:28.080 --> 00:00:34.720 it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:34.720 --> 00:00:44.720 Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to be Texas one state under God one and indivisible. 00:00:44.720 --> 00:00:56.640 Thank you guys. And I don't see anyone from the audience has signed up for to speak today. 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:06.320 Well we're good. We're good. So nothing there unless there's something I don't know about. 00:01:06.320 --> 00:01:18.160 Okay let's go to item HLC 25-001. Consider approval of the December 9th 2024 minutes. 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:27.840 I move for approval. Thank you for that. I'll second it. And Lenny seconding that. All right approve. 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:34.400 Raise your hand say aye. Aye. I need to not approve. Okay thank you for that. Motion carries. 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:41.920 And our next item is HLC 24-062. We're going to elect a chair and vice chair 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:47.680 to the historic landmark commission. And so what we'll do now is take nominations for our chair. 00:01:49.840 --> 00:02:02.400 I know that Angie. Excuse me. All right. And I would need a second. Okay thank you for that. 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:10.640 So we can vote. We don't need to do another right. Anyone else have want to make a motion? 00:02:10.640 --> 00:02:18.960 Okay so Lenny has made the motion for myself and Shawn has seconded that. All in favor raise 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:27.520 your hand and say aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you guys. I'll save my reservation to be later. 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:34.720 All right and now we need to do vice chair so we need a motion for our vice chair. 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:39.600 I'll nominate Shawn. Thank you Lenny. 00:02:41.600 --> 00:02:48.960 Thank you. And a second. We have a second. A second. Okay thank you very much. All right and 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:59.760 all right we have a motion and a second for Shawn. All in favor raise your hand say aye. Aye. 00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:04.080 Any opposed? All right. Shawn you can keep your seat. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:14.560 That's right. Thank you all. Appreciate that. All right we are going to continue on with HLC 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:22.000 24-060. We're going to receive a report and hold the discussion and give staff direction 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:27.200 on the historic landmark commission's request for our local historic designation of eligible 00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:40.240 historic properties. So does anyone have one? By the way did you see the picture of Frosty up on 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:48.640 did you do that? Any word from that one? Okay anyone else have any properties that you would like to 00:03:48.640 --> 00:03:51.840 get our eye on? 00:03:55.040 --> 00:03:58.640 It's a new year. It is an old brave new year. 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:03.840 Have we uh can I ask for a report or did we wait till after we? 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.640 Well it says and hold a report. Receive a report. So yes. I'm just curious if we have had any 00:04:08.640 --> 00:04:17.440 response from the ladies club members to join us. They were invited a couple of times I believe. 00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:23.120 I have not heard any. I haven't heard anything. Okay. Okay. Well in the spirit of new year new 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:29.600 you maybe we could send them another like hey we like do this pretty regularly. 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:39.120 No no no no. Oh she was asked a question. I was going to let you answer her. 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:44.160 I'm sorry. So Councilman Sherman had a question on who you were speaking of. 00:04:44.160 --> 00:05:00.080 Oh and I told her. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Anyone else? You guys are quiet on this side of 00:05:00.080 --> 00:05:08.080 the table over here. It's a new perspective. It is. Yes. Taking it all in. 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:15.280 Oh he's kidding. I mean we issued an invitation. Do we just not get any response or 00:05:15.280 --> 00:05:24.720 or federation? The dead women's club? Yes. So Sean had Eric Bishner treat had extended an invite 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:31.040 and then at that time I talked about that there is that larger discussion that does need to happen 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:37.200 with parks department and everything because they are designated landmark property and parks has not 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:44.560 begun any of its discussions regarding Quigartown Park and what the I guess the design for the park 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:53.200 is in the future. So maybe that is potentially what kind of like is holding it up in terms of 00:05:53.200 --> 00:05:57.840 there's no what is the discussion that's going to take place when we're kind of like ahead of the 00:05:57.840 --> 00:06:03.520 game. Does that make sense? Yeah yeah well let's kind of get ahead of it right and say hey we're 00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:10.960 interested. Correct yeah but I think it is a larger discussion where parks needs to be involved 00:06:10.960 --> 00:06:15.200 since they would be the ones who have to maintain anything that does go into the park. 00:06:15.200 --> 00:06:23.840 So if we if that's something that you all want to do I would say that's more of a matrix item 00:06:23.840 --> 00:06:30.480 where we bring that forward and say have a meeting with parks department or parks board and HLC 00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:35.680 and kind of starting the discussions of that historic narrative for at the Quigartown Park 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:42.880 design. And that's come up before and I thought it was on the matrix so that is our next item 00:06:42.880 --> 00:06:49.920 on the agenda that we can move into that for any other discussion on eligible properties. 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:55.600 Okay let's move to that one that'll give us more in line. How about HLC 00:06:56.640 --> 00:07:01.840 25-002 hold the discussion regarding the historic landmark commissions project matrix. 00:07:01.840 --> 00:07:16.400 So these are our current requests that are on the matrix. We have two ongoing the historic 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:22.560 tax assumption discussion. I know we started that back in the summer. That's definitely coming to 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:28.800 you all in on February 10th so hopefully everyone can be in attendance that night. It's going to be 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:35.680 I think quite an interesting discussion to have and staff will be presenting three different options 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:42.640 to you all. So those are getting finalized this week and next so I think it'll be great. 00:07:42.640 --> 00:07:47.840 We obviously last meeting there was that discussion regarding the marketing for 00:07:47.840 --> 00:07:51.600 historic preservation program forming new partnerships. So that's going to be brought 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:56.800 back in early 2025. I figured probably not the best to have that on the February meeting. 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:03.680 Most likely looking at the March meeting for that one. And then this focus group discussion 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:09.360 which is going to basically piggyback on that historic tax assumption discussion will be the 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:18.560 focus group. And then we obviously we have our items for HLC's consideration and then we have 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:24.880 our annual update which I've updated with the new 2025 goals that you all discussed last meeting. 00:08:24.880 --> 00:08:28.720 So those are on here as well. And then all the meetings for the rest of the year. 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:37.280 But this is where I would recommend because the previous request was invite the Dent women's 00:08:37.280 --> 00:08:45.200 group to come and have a discussion. And I believe like I said we discussed that in October and so we 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:50.160 had put that on pause but I think if we want if you all are interested in having discussion I would 00:08:50.160 --> 00:08:55.600 make it a little bit more specific and state that we would like to have start the preliminary 00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:02.560 discussions with the Dent women's club along with the parks board commission if that makes sense. 00:09:02.560 --> 00:09:20.000 Yes it just seemed that the park is being redone and if the women's club members or participants 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:29.120 wish to have some say about what is written or flags or anything about that particular building 00:09:30.560 --> 00:09:40.000 I think they'd want to get in early. I agree I'm going to disagree a little bit about bringing 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:44.720 parks in at this point because if it's just discussions I think there could be a time that 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:50.800 we would want to bring parks department in. But I think for just preliminary talking about it I 00:09:50.800 --> 00:09:58.960 think it would be I don't think that's necessary. I agree with that just keep it more of just like a 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:04.320 chat that I want to information gather and find out if you have thoughts and what those might be. 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:08.880 And then I mean this isn't even we're not talking plans or anything we're just asking 00:10:08.880 --> 00:10:17.840 right just get what's what's in your head what's going on and yeah just information gather just 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:23.680 get some opinion. Are you all looking for a conversation for them to tell you what they 00:10:23.680 --> 00:10:31.600 would like to see once parks start from the plan what they envision their building? 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:37.200 And as as related to their property probably specifically right and its use and things and 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:43.920 I know there were some questions about lease conditions but we'll we can we'll handle that 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:48.320 as it comes but I'm just curious I'm just curious to hear whether it's that. Who holds the lease? 00:10:49.520 --> 00:10:56.640 The city. So the city owns the property and the city federation of women's club. 00:10:56.640 --> 00:11:05.200 They gave a lot. The lease is long. Okay. And when was it up? 100 years. 100 year lease. Yeah 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:15.360 but when was it up? I think 2028. Okay. Is it 2026 or 2028? Yeah yeah that's what I remember. 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:24.080 And the building is already a storage land. Correct. So what could they do? I mean they're 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:29.600 supposed to there when they redo the whole park and and have the tours and all there's 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:38.720 likely to be new signage relative to that building. So that's primarily it is signage it's not doing 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:43.920 anything to the building because that's protected right? Yeah we know we're not going to do anything 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:50.880 to the building per se. I just want to know because if they've got needs we don't know about 00:11:50.880 --> 00:11:56.960 you know what I mean? It's like how is the building? I haven't been in there. I don't know. 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.800 Well I know they've had needs through the years and gotten grants from different 00:12:00.800 --> 00:12:11.760 funders but for window updates and I think AC maybe and different things through the years that. 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:17.360 So hence just want to have a conversation just to kind of get everybody caught up on the same page 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:24.000 and say tell us where your head's at what your needs are what kinds of things we can be looking 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:31.680 for and because yeah I mean while there's so many other pieces in this plan it would be really easy 00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:37.760 to get overlooked I think for that to happen. And I think that the honest truth is that since 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:46.480 it's now Quaker Town Park and the story of Quaker County is to be told and whether everybody knows 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:53.600 it or not but the women's club were the ones who worked very hard to get the people moved out of 00:12:53.600 --> 00:13:01.760 Quaker Town Park and the building was given to them as a thank you for having done that 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:10.320 and that story hasn't been told in the park and it will be this time so you know this was like 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:16.960 giving them a chance to come forth and. So I think this should be added to the matrix. I'm wondering 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:22.160 though if this should be more of an informal conversation versus putting them on the spot in 00:13:22.160 --> 00:13:28.400 a meeting. Well I was thinking of an informal conversation but that's why I thought we might 00:13:28.400 --> 00:13:35.200 have heard from them. Right well I don't know that we've laid it out like that to say hey we 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:40.720 would just like to have a discussion. I think it has to be a formal meeting for Quorum present 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:48.640 so that's why but an informal formal meeting but informal conversation within it just for them to 00:13:48.640 --> 00:13:55.760 be free to speak what they think what their ideas are not that we can do it we can't say yes no 00:13:55.760 --> 00:14:00.320 anything right but just have open up the communication I think is key. 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:10.240 It does I'm looking at legal though because I don't want to put anyone because I've had these 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:16.720 informal conversations with Denton Women's Club and I think if they I think for people knowing 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:22.240 they're being recorded that it's online they don't feel as free to express and have honest 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:28.720 conversation so that is my only and I'm not saying we don't want it to be transparent I don't I'm 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:35.920 not saying that anything's going to be hidden but I think if we're having a hard conversation like 00:14:35.920 --> 00:14:41.680 the history of the Denton Women's Club I don't think we should be putting people on camera to 00:14:41.680 --> 00:14:47.840 have that kind of conversation. Maybe further on down the line when there's more solid plans 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:52.560 coming out of it and more of like discussing about the actual narrative what goes in the class 00:14:52.560 --> 00:14:56.320 but I don't think those kind of initial breaking the ice conversations 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:02.720 necessarily need to be in a formal meeting setting. I think I would tend to agree with that. 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:09.120 I mean to have everyone you have to have a quorum so is there so we're going to ask legal is there 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:18.400 a way with any of that fit in a closed session at all? Not likely no I mean I think that 00:15:18.400 --> 00:15:23.680 there's a concern about it wouldn't recommend going out and each of you 00:15:23.680 --> 00:15:30.960 trying to talk to people and I think you if you're sort of doing that and then talking to each other 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:41.040 and you get into walking quorum kind of issues potentially. I don't know what can recommend I 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:51.040 think maybe staff could talk to some people and maybe they could provide a report to y'all and 00:15:51.040 --> 00:16:02.400 that would avoid the issues but yeah I'm not super hot on the idea of sort of out of meeting 00:16:02.400 --> 00:16:06.560 discussions about what y'all are supposed to be talking about publicly here. 00:16:06.560 --> 00:16:13.920 I don't know how to square that circle. The staff point is we could check in with parks 00:16:13.920 --> 00:16:18.400 to see where they are if they've had any conversations and not feel like we're stepping 00:16:18.400 --> 00:16:23.280 on any toes we're trying to reach out and talk to them from our setting point. Remember we just 00:16:23.280 --> 00:16:29.840 check in with parks and see what they're talking about. I agree with I don't want to step on toes 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:36.080 but I to my point earlier I'd like to have the discussion with them and not bring parks in. 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:40.800 Parks is the one that has to do that keep it separate we don't even know that they're 00:16:40.800 --> 00:16:46.320 going to ask for anything that requires that so just to just to have the conversation 00:16:46.880 --> 00:16:54.000 I'm excited with legal on to have it an official meeting with quorum so we do everything correctly 00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:00.160 and I do feel like it can still be informal but I would leave it up to them on if they're 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:05.200 comfortable with that and just that you know we're not holding anything in stone. If they would I 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:12.320 don't think we know until we try. Those are my thoughts. My concern is just that we not get to 00:17:12.320 --> 00:17:19.760 the point that somebody is designated to write up something and perhaps put a plaque on the building 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:29.120 or something and they feel like they were left out and didn't have any input. That's so that would 00:17:29.120 --> 00:17:33.760 still have to come through you all right so there would never be a point where a plaque is just put 00:17:33.760 --> 00:17:41.600 up on their building because that's something that you all have jurisdiction over. So I see what 00:17:41.600 --> 00:17:47.360 everyone's saying I just am coming from this point where staff has had other conversations and they 00:17:47.360 --> 00:17:52.640 have been pretty emotional and they have felt targeted so I just don't want anyone to feel 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:59.520 targeted in a public setting that's recorded because staff has had those past conversations 00:17:59.520 --> 00:18:07.040 whether it be myself or parks department and we we obviously didn't want that to be the situation 00:18:07.040 --> 00:18:13.680 but it just felt like it was a pretty high emotional experience. Do you think that was 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:21.600 because it was information they hadn't heard before or they were unaware of history or what 00:18:21.600 --> 00:18:29.920 was the reason for that? I think it was from what staff was kind of the feeling that staff I think 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:36.400 caught was that we were going to take what has been that history being established over the last 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:41.360 hundred years we were going to take that away if that makes sense even though that wasn't the kind 00:18:41.360 --> 00:18:46.880 of conversation we were having it was just more like hey you know your lease is going to be coming 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:54.240 up let's have conversations and then so as staff I'm just trying to find a balance I don't want to 00:18:54.240 --> 00:19:00.560 put anyone where they feel like they're on trial but at the same time we do need to have transparent 00:19:00.560 --> 00:19:06.880 open conversations so I will let you all direct me as staff what to do but I'm just giving you all 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:12.800 some background as to why kind of I'm have been leaning towards more of like let's have a preliminary 00:19:12.800 --> 00:19:20.400 conversation outside of this room but I get what legal is saying as well we want it so I think 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:25.760 we'll just have to be however the meeting is set up for that discussion I think it's just 00:19:27.280 --> 00:19:34.720 the wording and how it's addressed just needs to be trend lightly yeah right that's why I was so 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:44.080 concerned that we at least open up the conversation before the action was to be taken yeah I'm still 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:53.360 catching that perhaps yes sorry do you think it would do any good if you talk to whoever's in 00:19:53.360 --> 00:20:04.400 charge of federation again and to try to get the feel for what what kind of input they'd like to have 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:19.040 or actually and I think that Commissioner Sherman I'm gonna let you go because um so that sounded to 00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:26.480 me like that their concern is that they may not be able to renew their lease I mean I thought 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:31.360 that's kind of what I heard and what you just said and if that's the case I understand they 00:20:31.360 --> 00:20:38.400 I think that's part of it and is that I just want to pause for a second because 00:20:39.520 --> 00:20:49.120 all right we're talking about whether to talk about this and so getting into the details I'm 00:20:49.120 --> 00:20:54.960 trying to understand why they wouldn't want to talk about it now I've heard it and and I know 00:20:54.960 --> 00:21:00.880 a lot of these women so and I'm not going to talk to one of them I promise because this is the first 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:07.040 I've known of this I'm just trying to figure out why would there be a problem oh if it's about 00:21:08.800 --> 00:21:14.000 not renewing their lease then they're probably I don't think it's about not renewing their lease 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:22.160 okay it's about the language it might appear on a marker and I think that's a very reason why we need 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:29.600 the communication and I think the wording even for staff to contact them needs to be this is not to 00:21:29.600 --> 00:21:35.440 discuss xyz this is not and I don't mean putting it like that but these are the things this is 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:41.360 what we do not want we are not here to do that this is what our goal is and to open it up for 00:21:41.360 --> 00:21:45.760 that communication that would be my ideal and that's why I'd like to see it on the matrix 00:21:45.760 --> 00:21:51.760 and do we need two people to say put it on the matrix three we need three people so I need two 00:21:51.760 --> 00:21:58.320 more to go with me here on to put it on the matrix okay fisher sherman yeah yes and also 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:05.920 fisherman again so we're good well so just to clarify what we're putting on the matrix so the 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:12.080 idea here is to go to them are we directing staff to go to them to have a conversation on behalf that 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:22.640 we want to open a conversation or are we trying to set up a conversation with us here thank you for 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:29.520 clarifying that's what i'm having so my idea was for staff to open the conversation for them to 00:22:29.520 --> 00:22:41.040 come and have the conversation with the submission thank you yeah we already have three 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:53.440 yeah yeah we don't want to leave you guys out over here they're still getting adjusted that side of 00:22:53.440 --> 00:23:09.520 the room clearly i'm sorry we keep switching the seating to see what works that's true that's true 00:23:10.080 --> 00:23:17.600 okay any other items that you guys could think of at the matrix 00:23:17.600 --> 00:23:27.920 so let me ask some guidance from staff on this in terms of like what we're trying to prioritize 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:36.480 because i'm thinking um first next and then later um so the idea is that there's going to be 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.240 specifically for historic preservation for there to be like some type of education process 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:51.520 which we have them clarified for us or are they already in place and we're just trying to now 00:23:51.520 --> 00:23:58.640 socialize business owners and then create next step some type of focus groups with historic 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:05.840 property owners is that somewhat close to ballpoint i think i got a little confused what you're 00:24:05.840 --> 00:24:13.920 trying okay so sorry these are prioritized anyway um but if that would help you all for me to 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:18.640 prioritize it that's fine or in terms i guess like of how they feed into one another if they do 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:23.280 but like continuation of historic tax assumption discussion obviously is ongoing that will be 00:24:23.280 --> 00:24:30.640 coming in february once you all decide have that discussion chick pick your options then that's 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:35.440 going to trigger okay let's have that focus group of historic property owners to kind of talk about 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:41.680 the option that you all have chosen and discussed and then the two others are just separate thank 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:48.480 you that's clear yeah of course i'm happy to kind of group over that thanks only if you're 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:55.440 drawing lines yes of course i'm a visual person so i have a possible item but i want to hear 00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:07.040 first anyone else has anything okay so i'm wondering in our historic districts around it and 00:25:07.040 --> 00:25:15.920 on signs that we have or in signs going into the district coming out in the district those types of 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:24.720 things to maybe put on the matrix on to know what's there and if we should work on beautification 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:29.040 i guess i don't really know how to say say that but to um 00:25:29.040 --> 00:25:39.440 make the designation pop that makes sense like have a lot of pride in that you're in a historic 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:46.000 district now that type of and and i know it's going to look you know is it on city property 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:51.440 if you put a sign there so i'd kind of like to know what is in each district and maybe thoughts 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:59.280 or what if we could do something what we might want to do so just to clarify or um so what 00:25:59.280 --> 00:26:06.640 are you saying looking at kind of like streetscapes of what is in each district or looking at what 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:11.760 signage is currently i was thinking signage at heart and i'll tell you what prompted me this is 00:26:11.760 --> 00:26:19.040 because i heard that for a few of our districts that they had put it on that district to actually 00:26:19.040 --> 00:26:24.880 pay for signs and that type of thing and i've never heard that before because they're not like 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:32.800 a real hoa type thing yeah and with it being deemed having commissions over it with the city 00:26:32.800 --> 00:26:40.560 i kind of my thought was that's kind of on us but i'd like to know what's there first if if we 00:26:40.560 --> 00:26:47.920 thought hey let's do something or not do something um that was just my thought how many districts are 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.040 there are that three three and looking at another 00:26:53.040 --> 00:27:03.840 oak and hickory and and bill so oak and hickory are separate so okay oh sorry oak hickory bell 00:27:03.840 --> 00:27:19.520 abt and then um west oak okay west oak area sorry yeah okay i just thought for a new year 00:27:19.520 --> 00:27:24.560 that so i need other people come along with me if you think that's it that was just a thought 00:27:24.560 --> 00:27:31.760 coming in so i'd like to put that down as a discussion item um yeah especially to think 00:27:31.760 --> 00:27:39.680 about how some of the other districts might be highlighted in a way that also helps to draw 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:45.040 attention and as you say some maybe even neighborhood crime and that fact 00:27:45.040 --> 00:27:50.320 okay we have two we need one more 00:27:50.320 --> 00:27:58.960 yeah yes i uh no i think i mean we got the opportunity to walk i only got to walk one 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:05.840 with y'all six children but um and it was the west oak that we did and it was you know in certain 00:28:05.840 --> 00:28:12.400 parts that it's kind of clear in other parts it's not it'd be interesting to see what the signage 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:17.600 looks like and what how we might improve or make it a little bit more visible yeah 00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:29.680 all right anyone else anything else 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:36.560 do we have oh sorry yeah i was gonna ask do we have days for the ribbon cuttings so 00:28:36.560 --> 00:28:43.440 i do have some concluding items yes um so ribbon cutting days we're still waiting on a few more 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:50.160 responses um from folks so if you can let carly know um what your kind of preferred dates and 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:57.120 times are or days and times are for ribbon cuttings that'd be great um in terms of just 00:28:57.120 --> 00:29:01.520 boot camp reminder for those who are participating i know there's three people coming this friday 00:29:01.520 --> 00:29:08.640 for boot camp um in that we have one person attending the 31st so if you haven't responded 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:15.280 um let carly know also which date the 17th or the 31st if you can come for that boot camp um 00:29:15.280 --> 00:29:23.280 they're both fridays uh in terms of kind of building off that boot camp uh meetings are only 00:29:23.280 --> 00:29:27.600 now going to be really focused on special topic items that you all are interested in learning 00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:31.360 about say like solar panels and everything the boot camp is going to be kind of that preservation 00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:38.160 101 so we're not going to really be covering like certificates of appropriateness or um 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:43.280 designations all that kind of just like basics those are going to be held in the boot camp moving 00:29:43.280 --> 00:29:48.320 forward um and so meetings will be for any special topics that the commission wants to learn about 00:29:48.320 --> 00:29:58.800 um ebers farm update uh that is going to work session um city council work session on february 00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:07.360 fourth um i know that a non-profit has been formed um by some denton citizens and they are basing it 00:30:07.360 --> 00:30:12.240 off of a community center in born texas and i'm going to look up the name real quick because i 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:20.240 forgot to write it down but um it's called the cibolo center c-i-b-o-l-o center in born texas 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:25.120 b-o-r-m-e 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:42.960 now yeah it's born b-o-r-m-e it's burn bernie b-o-e-r-n-e yeah it has an extra e in bernie she said 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:51.360 it's just b-o-r-n-e oh yeah that's what i was looking for how was that legal i googled cibolo 00:30:51.360 --> 00:30:56.640 center for conservation it's in bernie oh well the email that i got was born so okay so 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.360 um 00:31:03.360 --> 00:31:09.360 okay okay we believe 00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:18.640 but yes so it's the center so there's that discussion of me center and a non-profit has 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.760 been formed i'm not sure if that's gonna be part of the work session on the fourth i know that work 00:31:23.760 --> 00:31:29.760 sessions being led by parks i was told by um miss howie tin that she had notified them about this 00:31:29.760 --> 00:31:36.400 community center so um there might be more conversations but i want to give you all that 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:44.800 update so february 4th work session discussing evers farm um civic center pool quaker town pool 00:31:44.800 --> 00:31:50.800 isr we're still waiting on parks to submit that to city council um as we know that came forward as 00:31:50.800 --> 00:31:56.240 a two-minute pitch by a council member back back in october um but the isr has not been put in a 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:01.360 Friday report but so i'm still monitoring it and once that comes out i will forward that to you all 00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:10.720 and then um that's it can you clarify one thing that you said for me yep so you said coas and 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:19.280 things won't come before us so yes so coas like so the educational part of coas and designations 00:32:19.280 --> 00:32:23.840 and tax assumptions all that kind of stuff kind of your back to basics that's all going to be held 00:32:23.840 --> 00:32:30.160 during the boot camp but no you will still be seeing coas any historic tax assumptions um but 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.560 no more like i guess educational yeah education of it it'll be held at the boot camp makes total 00:32:36.560 --> 00:32:43.280 sense thank you for that because i'm sorry you know yeah thank you for clarifying and 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:54.400 one other thing and i don't know if there's something on a report can that we can get like 00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.880 how many coas that you're doing or i'm not saying that you have to like but i think like hey we saw 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.760 uptake this month or you know i just wonder if the spring breeze on more coas and things 00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:16.160 just she's busy yeah and the things that before had to come to the commission that now that you 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:20.880 take i think it's wonderful but i think there's things that you know just like how many we don't 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:26.400 need to know individually sure um i did give an update at the end of i did uh our annual update 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:30.240 which unfortunately we're not able to make that meeting on december 9th right so i kind of i gave 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.080 an overview of everything but uh next meeting on in february you all will be seeing three coas so 00:33:36.080 --> 00:33:43.600 oh well okay windows windows windows um but yes i'm more than happy to kind of give you all like a 00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:48.240 update and say hey we've gotten one coir oh i haven't gotten anything this month so i'm more 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.800 than happy to do that so that you guys can enjoy as we progress through the year no i think it's a 00:33:52.800 --> 00:33:59.680 great idea and on that note i want to congratulate staff on their wins for 2025 and having it was a 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:09.040 record number of what was it properties designated yeah oh 2024 2024 yes sorry we just got here i 00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:16.560 know that's right i'm still dealing with it still transitioning myself all right any other completing 00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:26.480 items all right we will be adjourned at six oh six pm