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 Good morning we are at the mobility committee Wednesday December 18 2024 10

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 a.m. in our council work session room we do have a quorum this morning are there

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 any citizens comments on the agenda items number two items were individual

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 consideration a MC 2 4 - 0 4 3 consider approval of the minutes of November the

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 20th 2024 so move a move and a second any kind of discussion all right so we

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 can go for vote is there any dissension okay we got one abstination all in

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 favor say thank you we'll be going to be MC 2 4 days 0 4 for receiver report and

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 hold a discussion regarding potential bollard uses benefits options the city

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 has improved cycling and walk link walking

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 Greg Scott city of Denton transportation services and today so today we're going

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 to talk about bollards were as just a generic term to represent forms of

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 separation on the roadways and the goals that are related to this are that city

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 of Denton has said that the human life is the most important aspect of road

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 design that they want to as a strategy use physical features to encourage safety

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 and to encourage biking and pedestrian use through low stress environments and

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 bollards have a role in all those things they add real and perceived safety they

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 are very timely and can add safety that way we have some recommendations talk

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 about some of the characteristics and go to questions so as far as real safety

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 studies have shown studies that are have been adopted by the US Department of

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 Transportation have shown that when added to a bike lane they cut auto versus

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 bike crashes in half and boats are even more important over time as it seems

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 like our vehicles are getting bigger I've just drawn a full-size pickup not

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 the monster pickups but in comparison to a cyclist and typical bike lane to kind

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 of give us the kind of give a sense of why that's important why that sense of

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 security is important important but I also wanted to introduce one of the many

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 many ways that bollards can be used that aren't so common at least here and you

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 can take bollards and it's called hardening the nose of the intersection

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 so what it does is let me see if I can so in the before picture you've got

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 left turn lane you've got the striped median and oftentimes if we see a break

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 in traffic motorists will cross over this portion and do a kind of a wide

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 angle turn versus a more 90 degree turn and this would be even more true for a

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 lot of Denton streets that have that don't have left turn lanes right so you

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 you you have this wide zone of conflict between the pedestrians and bicyclists

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 which are getting the walk signal oftentimes and the left turning vehicles

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 and by by putting bollards in a grouping here and squaring it squares up the turn

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 so it makes this cone of uncertainty what I called it or the conflict area

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 shorter it makes it more comfortable for the cyclist or bicyclist and and

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 arguably literally safer. So that's another use of bollards that we could

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 consider but there are many many uses of bollards. Lastly I'm wanting to point out

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 that because bollards are relatively inexpensive and easy to place those

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 opportunities through safety simply by doing things faster so I took a look at

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 five years worth of crash data for fatal and significant injury crashes

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 significant injury is where the person does not walk away they're incapacitated

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 and there were 56 of those and about half of those were in repeat locations

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 now I'm not saying it's the same exact cause I'm just saying that they were in

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 the same area if if they were the same cause which I don't know being able to

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 do something quicker could save lives okay it's kind of a mind exercise by

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 doing it quicker if we could solve that issue if it were one issue then we could

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 save lives and misery now a third of those were pedestrians and cyclists

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 which are the you know most vulnerable road users so when you when you put

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 those together there's a lot of potential benefit from bollards used in

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 quick design build process projects and so that that is another benefit so three

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 main recommendations and then we'll get to kind of some characteristics and

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 bollards after that but one recommendation is to keep and expand on

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 bollards use there are other opportunities besides along bike lanes

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 that we could do if if as I think we are looking at different types of bollards

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 we should continue to focus on their visibility they've got let's say if

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 they're in a truck or something the driver needs to be able to look across

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 the cab and see that there is a bollard there and have the mass so that if they

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 hit a bollard they know it which is increasingly difficult in a big truck

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 right as trucks get bigger and then even though I'm going to put some

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 typicals out there as recommendations I want to be clear that when it comes down

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 to it the design the placement of bollards what they look like everything

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 really should be context-sensitive so how fast is the road how much traffic a lot

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 of conditions could go into that so there's a lot of variety of ways to

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 apply them so my hope is not to set a standard and say these are the way

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 bollards should be and nothing else right that's let's make it relaxed so

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 I'm looking at different types of bollards by the definition we said it's

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 separation so they can be extremely short that's a few inches that can be

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 mixed and then kind of the typical one which is 30 to 42 inches is what you see

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 and so that would be the recommended total and you could go up or down

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 depending on traffic and depending on speeds and a lot of factors the width

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 they can be very thin these are very interesting so they're extremely thin

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 and unobtrusive in a way you know these are kind of the typical ones you might

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 see in a construction area very wide and you know based on the the definition

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 that we have called for bollards they can get even to parking putting parking

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 in between bike lane let's say in the curb or vice versa the bike lane in

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 between the parking and the curb interval spacing even within the city

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 of Denton we have a lot of variation on that so we have you know continuous on

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 one end very very extreme on this one this is actually a construction site but

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 it can be very very frequent if you have a lot of trucks for example or just

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 simply highlighting we have a few roads in Denton where it's a residential area

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 and they just they've put a bollard where the driveways are so but it's very

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 simple and not a lot in between so it's a it's not really a very obtrusive not

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 very expensive but it just highlights the most important areas and then

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 reflectivity that's kind of a new you know category because technology and

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 reflectivity has really changed I think you may have seen retro reflective

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 reflectivity you caught you say it so it directly comes back at you and it looks

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 exactly like a light to me obviously that's more expensive but again these

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 are the range of options even going to lighting as you've probably already seen

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 and then you know there's a lot of innovation that can be applied to it love

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 this one got the orcas down to old tires that have been repurposed so with that

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 you know this is really in a nutshell I've tried to compress the myriad of

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 ways that bollards can be used some of their benefits so with that open it to

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 our turn it back over to you thank you well I've been taking so many notes but

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 what I think we'll do is this historic this wing my first question is just you

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 cited a 56% reduction in collisions when bike lane bike lanes were protected is

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 that an absolute reduction or a relative reduction to the number of users of the

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 bike lane like usage of the bike lane doubled this a 56% reduction work out to

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 still half of the crashes or about the same yeah because you might have

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 increased ridership or not ridership but use right is what you're saying so it

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 would be on the same system so this is from the crash modification clearing

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 house and and how it's used is that if you have a road with the same conditions

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 that they specify it's both based on before and after studies so it would be

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 simply I think it could in account for increased increased ridership or in use

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 but I think I could get back to you on on more of that but that's the way it's

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 designed to be used is on this type of roads if you want to forecast crashes

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 certain kinds of crashes that's this is how you would apply it if I could go

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 back to the kind of grouping of all of the different types of bollards so in

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 the third row there that third picture the one with the semi truck those aren't

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 installed bollards right those are those are placed bollards they just yeah yeah

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 I just thought it was a kind of an example of a very frequent yeah placement

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 so for those we could like I live off of Fulton we have the new elementary and

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 middle school on Fulton if we wanted to demo bike lanes on Fulton we wouldn't

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 even have to maybe install anything we could just place those oh yeah we'll see

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 how it goes yeah yeah when I worked for Orange County we did exactly that yeah

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 we glued it down we glued them down and pulled them up afterwards and then yeah

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 okay well if you if you want to hit up my street I'd love to see that and then

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 finally just on those placemaking and innovation ones I I just want to call out

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 that I think Denton does have some non-traditional bollards if we're using

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 kind of an expansive idea of that which is just like those planters that we have

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 on the downtown corners that are yay wide those are acting as bollards or I

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 think maybe my favorite example is is the dog start sculpture on the

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 scripture and Bonnie Bray roundabout hmm which if you think about it as a

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 bollard that prevents somebody from just driving straight over the roundabout

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 okay so I think we're using those already and I'd like to see more of them

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 mm-hmm I love that yes sir yeah I am I appreciate the the sort of a high-level

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 overview I one thing that I would I think would help me and hopefully would

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 help the committee is you know let's say start from this table there it's not

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 clear because you made the explicit point that the right the right traffic

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 control device in the right location right and so as we are sort of providing

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 oversight it's not you know I understand there's like a wide overlap of any any

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 physical barrier will kind of function to some degree but what's the right item

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 in the right location you know do we need more traditional traffic bollards in

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 in like say dense downtown corridors or you know or is that better to have the

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 art type in residential areas what are the best practices I know that dr. but

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 and his team well all of y'all have been working on alternatives because say in

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 some residential areas there's there's a mixed response because they like the

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 life-saving aspects of the bollards and not the aesthetics mm-hmm and so you

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 have mixtures of those different types and so I guess my question is after that

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 long preamble is as time allows I think it would be helpful for me and the

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 committee to kind of understand your vision and the staff's vision for best

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 practices and best applications and and and where you anticipate making

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 recommendations for types of uses you know and and how that would play out so

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 that that was you any any thoughts before I ask a second question I think

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 what's the best use in the best place kind of thing yeah I think I had the

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 general approach which is just from a safety standpoint I mean that's where

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 staff comes in right is safety first and that is you got to look at your speeds

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 you got to look at the vehicle mix how big the vehicles are and such beyond

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 that there is just pure preference and I don't know if that belongs to us but

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 certainly when we go out to the public and talk to them we should be talking to

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 them about what their preferences are right because it's it's aesthetic that's

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 you know my aesthetics are different than yours necessarily so so in in in

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 that regard I noticed that and this will go to the I think sort of the the sort

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 of the cone of uncertainty the example that you gave mm-hmm some of these are

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 are more expensive obviously like the old tires with reflectors are super

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 probably super cheap how we attach them to the ground and how much it cost to

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 bake them I know that our current sort of four or five inch bollards that we

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 like to use are are fairly inexpensive and quickly replaced but now back to the

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 cone of uncertainty I know that I notice we clip them a lot all over town not not

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 on Parkway and Congress because they're about two feet apart but anywhere where

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 they're irregularly apart we get especially at the intersections in Old

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 North and stuff they they you're taking them out all the time so I'm I'm curious

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 one thing that would help me in the future and recommendations is is sort of

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 knowing that interplay of replacement cycle and and damage like I would love

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 to have like the orca one from I assume that's Puget Sound area but that's

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 lovely and I could we could all imagine old Texas ones or something you know

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 here in Denton but not if our trucks are gonna do wide curves and clip them and

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 force $10,000 replacements every time yeah that we have that so you know like

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 that that's sort of interplay of cost and aesthetics and safety all at the same

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 time I would love some comment on that. Good morning Jim, Farhan Butt, Deputy Director

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 of Transportation Services. Yes we are looking into that aspect and we there

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 are many options as Greg presented and we are filtering down the option that

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 would serve as standard for our context sensitive cases based case by case basis

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 we can decide but we are evaluating that as we speak and in that evaluation I

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 mean I'm gonna encourage you to bring in some of the like you know the public art

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 community I mean if you I mean I I think we all reacted to some of the the pretty

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 ones yeah and so that might be an opportunity to get some synergies but

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 obviously the safety first and yes we will share we'll circulate we'll share

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 that information once we finalize do you have sort of a timeline and this is the

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 end of my questions chair you have a sort of timeline and when we're gonna

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 dial into this sort of thing this will be likely we could we could do something

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 maybe in February okay yeah I'm just writing some notes here for myself I it

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 sounds like there might have to be a little committee or something to kind of

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 gather up some thoughts you know as you all are putting it together bringing in

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 a community member you know rather than us sitting here and in kind of acting

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 like the committee in sort of that sense so when you come back to us you will

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 have something full for us to you know kind of yay and a and then we'll move it

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 on to wherever else it goes but just kind of you know I don't want this to be

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 your committee that you're looking for because we have so much other stuff to

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 do so yeah we're looking forward to you all bringing something back for us just

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 a couple of things I have noted here I did make a firm statement that I do not

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 like about bollards but maybe it was a statement more of I do not like the

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 bollards that I see in then because I am very you know pro use we do need these

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 bollards in a sense so I appreciate the recommended typical bollards page that

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 you have here so we can pull our thoughts together on that but I do know

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 that over on old north you know around here on Parkway I'd like to I don't

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 think that we've heard an update on how people are gauging that you know have we

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 had some communication from the community about you know hey we hate

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 these things get them out of the way we keep clipping our cars on these things

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 maybe it's the wrong kind of bollard you know like you said it could be it has a

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 purpose but the aesthetics part and the practicality part you know you guys are

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 gonna be putting that together so the other thing for those site is there a

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 such thing as a sight unseen road I'm thinking about this road right here

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 it's Parkway Oakland goes over into Parkway and that the bout bollards that

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 are there they start at withers and they kind of wrap around all the way down to

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 Carol just right here I'm just using that term because I didn't know the other

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 term but have you all had any kind of you know what are the people saying

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 about that what's the what's the comment on that does anybody have you all had

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 any comments from the people Susie what are we saying for Han but every director

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 transportation services we we have we are looking at all North as a as an

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 example North yes and we are we have some comments on that and we we are

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 utilizing those as a feedback for the evaluation process okay there are other

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 drafting a report soon and share with the mobility committee and then of course

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 over Fulton you know where the new school is and all of that we haven't

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 heard anything but good positive things about that area it sounds like yep okay

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 sort of Crescent yeah I say full time Crescent yes okay the new ones yeah

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 why and then oh I wanted to ask a question about bike lanes is there a

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 standard for the width of the bike lanes or do they I know you could put two and

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 two but what about that with each one the guidance is minimum four feet okay

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 minimum and but protected bike there's a great variety of that obviously the more

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 room you get the more comfort and probably actual safety protected bike

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 lanes are something that you have two stripes you basically have about two

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 feet of striping between the the general purpose lane and the bike lane so that's

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 that's six feet that's also another kind of classic version but but I would say

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 like everything there's people are going to bike you've got a you've got a

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 accommodate and you give them the best you can all right thank you so you

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 mentioned something about the most important areas there was a statement

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 that you made that we will look at the most important areas yeah I mean I don't

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 know that I meant that necessarily but I mean I just but my question is my

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 question is how is that decision made I mean who makes you all are going to be

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 coming together and making that decision based on standards more so or more based

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 on the complaints and the nature by which the citizen and the type of bike

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 lane that they might want because as I understand right now it is about

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 aesthetics it has a purpose but it is more about aesthetics that's what I

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 heard who is going to help make that decision well often on what type of bike

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 the most the most clear way that I think we're going to be addressing this is

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 through vision zero which once we identify some of the hot spots where

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 there's a lot of crashes due to lack of separation then those will be good

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 targets for creating that separation and bollards would be one of that toolbox

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 okay all right well that is all that I have we are supposed to pretty much

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 wrap this up they gave me 30 minutes to actually talk about this but of course we

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 know how fluid we are so what I'll do is I'll ask for at least another 10

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 minutes and we'll pull some time away from something else but let's go up

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 continue on with your questions I love the the shark fin and I and I could see

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 that big I have a great place near the water park or by the splash pad or any

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 place where there's water I think that I really really like that the the term you

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 used early in your presentation hardening the nose yes tell me how that

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 tell me what that I know I know I saw the graphic yeah but where's the nose

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 the nose section so like if you had a physical median right with curbs that

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 would be a hard nose you couldn't drive easily drive over it right to make the

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 left turn I'm going the wrong direction left left turn so by using boards which

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 would otherwise be something you could easily drive over the bollards create

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 that barrier and it hardens the the nose the the tip of that I see that median

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 okay and that brings me to something else when when a motorist hits a bollard

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 they need to know they hit it but it but do you agree that it needs to do no

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 damage to the vehicle hitting the bollard well I think that's context

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 sensitive too I mean every we've put if you hit those shark fins I don't know

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 that it would do absolutely no damage but you know all these things are

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 engineering judgment that need to be applied based on the circumstances again

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 I mean if there was like a zoo with a bunch of you know our elementary school

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 with a bunch of kids you could see you know at some point you might want to use

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 a more drastic options which brings me to another question what's under the

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 bollard oh what what's literally under it oh it varies right I mean they've got

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 ones that are mounted on spring so they can come back over there a lot of the

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 ones that we see they're just glued to the asphalt and I mean it varies as much

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 as there are bollards very right some are implanted are in the ground a lot of

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 them if one were to hit one of these would it do damage to one's car I'm not

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 a familiar with these ones exactly I don't know what's like probably not okay

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 it looks like I'll take I'll take a cue from the audience you might get a you

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 might get a Buffy scratch on your bumper but like you get it's nothing they are

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 actually bolted down the ones that you're talking about on the side yeah so

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 they are not glued so yes they they may have some minor damage I mean fender

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 fender but it's not gonna be tossed sure okay and it's for uniformity I can see

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 how one would how a city would would need to limit the number of bollards

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 because you're gonna if one gets knocked over you're gonna want to replace it you

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 don't want to replace a tall skinny one with a fat short one fair enough so so I

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 can see how one would want to limit the inventory if that's the correct term of

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 yeah of bollards yeah this is not an easy thing to put in a box very big

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 variety but there is definitely advantages to limiting your inventory so

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 you're not yeah I think that's all I've got did I mention I like the shark fin

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 go ahead hi thanks for this presentation I just want to emphasize just anybody

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 who might be watching that bollards are a game-changer in terms of getting

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 people to use the bike lanes that we're spending money building but it also

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 gives access to this form of transport to more people including our youngest

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 residents our oldest residents Dutton has surveyed residents on just their

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 opinions and perceptions of bike lanes a few times I think there was like a 2018

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 one we had the audit I think earlier this year or last year maybe and every

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 single time people tend to like some people feel safe in an unpainted or in a

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 painted unprotected bike lane but most people feel way safer in off-road trail

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 side path or a protected bike lane so if we want people to actually use what

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 we're building and have access to this opportunity they need to be able to feel

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 safe and comfortable like they're not gonna die because that's always what I

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 hear people tell me they're like I wish I could bike but I just don't feel safe

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 and if I just observe around town like I live off of Malone Street I frequently

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 see people riding on the sidewalk instead of the unprotected bike lane

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 because they don't feel safe the cars are whizzing by too close there's just

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 not a buffer it's really uncomfortable and that's not great because sidewalks

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 are really designed for people moving a lot slower than that walking wheelchair

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 and so that kind of creates a speed differential and a conflict so really we

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 want bicycle and e-scooter traffic to be in you know their own designated space

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 so they're not conflicting with other traffic and the best way to do that is

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 to provide usable safe separated infrastructure like this that you know

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 there's not cars parked in it so in terms of you know what type of baller

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 reuse I'm pretty indifferent my only request and desires on that is that it

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 keeps the bike lane clear so that there's people can't easily pull into it

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 and park which happens all the time if anybody ever goes down Highland Street

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 and UNT almost like 95% of the time I bike down there I have to like go into

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 oncoming car traffic because somebody is blocking the bike lane because it's

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 unprotected so you know as long as it's keeping cars out people feel

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 uncomfortable like some people might just crash into those plastic posts so

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 the ones that we mostly use here are bolted down there's just like a bolt you

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 can actually sort of peek down a hole in the top of one and see what's in there

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 but you know I just want cars you know to not feel comfortable just pulling into

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 them right because if it's blocked all the time people aren't going to use it

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 they're gonna go on the sidewalk they're gonna be in the car lane and then

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 drivers are mad there's a bicyclist in the car lane right so if cars are out of

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 the bike lane and the bike lane is clear more people will use it more people will

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 feel comfortable using it so I really want to emphasize that aspect in terms

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 of when we're looking at bollard options I'm very open to experimenting with some

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 different ones I know there's best practices out there other cities are

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 using a variety of these we can talk to people ask their experience see what

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 other people are doing what they're finding is effective and in terms of the

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 way they look I know a lot of cities they'll do the plastic post starting off

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 as like a quick build kind of thing but then as that bike lane becomes more

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 established over time and those ballers keep getting damaged and replaced and

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 there's all this maintenance at some point they start looking at more durable

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 options so like bolt-down curbs some cities just fully build a curb in there

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 but that's you know no more that's more of a capital project it's gonna cost a

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 lot more money but bolt-down curbs are a possibility that's lower profile I'm not

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 as short as that very short I could drive right over that with my car like I

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 don't think that's gonna stop anybody from entering the bike lane but bolt-down

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 curbs as long as they're high enough that it would damage somebody's like we

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 then that generally will keep people out so there's a lot of options in terms of

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 the quick build so maybe you do plastic and then over time we do something

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 that's more durable and maybe not as offensive looking to people but we

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 absolutely do need to keep protecting stuff if we actually want people using

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 it and not getting hurt I think that's all I have thank you so much for the

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 presentation and it sounds like we are are we gonna move forward on this do we

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 need a vote or we need some direction or how are we is this something that is

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 just ongoing can you help us with that question we're gonna continue to work

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 through this I did hear that you know we'll come back in February kind of

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 with more recommendations we'll get some feedback from various stakeholders okay

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 truly some of the tools that we already have and working through vision zero the

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 audit etc so okay that's gonna come back to us well we our city is known for our

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 tree people our dog people are these people are homeless people we have so

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 many different interests in this community and all of those people make

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 sure that our council is very aware very well aware that they're there but the

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 beauty of this particular committee is that we have our very own bicycle person

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 our bike guru on is on this committee so we're gonna be and you can see the

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 passion you can hear the passion so we're gonna be looking forward to her

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 being as a part of that conversation as well and help guide us with our biking

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 and bollards thank you sir appreciate it thank you a conversation okay so we're

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 gonna move on to MC to for days and zero four five receive a report and hold a

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 discussion regarding the city of Denton's project status update on the

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 Denton County Transportation Authority reinvestment program trip for the fiscal

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 year 21 through 24 thank you good morning Trevor crane director of capital

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 projects so today I'm going to go through just status update of our trip

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 projects so really wanted to start off just going through kind of the trip

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 program itself the objective the objective of the trip program is to

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 provide financial assistance to DCTA members member cities for transit

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 supportive projects consistent with and beneficial to DCTA's long-range service

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 plan goals so got a couple of graphs here not gonna go through all of them

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 but this is really kind of the improvement type and really the

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 criteria that we have to meet in order to submit those projects so very lengthy

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 depending on what the improvement type is lots of restrictions or criteria that

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 we need to meet when we submit these projects this is really just a selection

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 approval process so DCTA will issue a call for projects in January of each

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 calendar year we the city will submit an application for projects within 90 days

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 of that call for projects DCTA staff will have 30 days to review the application

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 to determine if that project meets eligibility or requesting additional

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 information from the city and then after completion of the review eligible

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 applications will be placed on the agenda for the next regularly scheduled

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 DCTA board of directors meeting for consideration the DCTA board will lead

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 the approval and award process so this is just a quick snapshot of all the

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 projects we've completed to date so the hallway crossing project Bell sidewalk

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 Med Park Mayhill Road phase 2 said a and said B so some of these were specific

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 trip projects some of these were CIP projects where we lumped in some DCTA

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 funds to meet some of the requirements for those for those sections all right so

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 these are current projects we're working with the first one is the a train to UNT

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 bike and ped pass so we call this the sycamore side path project summary for

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 this is improvements on sycamore sycamore and welch to serve DCTA

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 customers traveling from the a train to downtown and ultimately to the UNT

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 campus so this provides pedestrian connectivity which will serve DC DCTA

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 customers accessing route 7 and DCTA and UNT shuttle routes project status is

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 construction has actually just went out to bid earlier I mean just within the

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 last month estimated schedule is anywhere are between quarter one of 25 to quarter

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 one of 2026 you can see the trip funding requests there and then we have submitted

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 some reimbursements for this project so these are all reimbursement projects we

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 spend the money up front and then trip reimburses on the back end next project

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 is Jennings Alexander so this is sidewalks at Alexander Elementary which

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 will provide vital connectivity to DCTA passengers and to the entire student

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 body the majority of whom reside within two miles of the campus and are not

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 provided bus service so this project is currently under construction estimated

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 consult will go to construction early next year in January we anticipate that

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 taking a year so quarter one of 25 to quarter one of 2026 you can see the

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 estimate completion for this project and how much we got from trip and then we

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 have submitted one reimbursement so far and we'll continue to do that as we

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 construct the project. Next up is Nettie Schultz and Pecan Creek and just as an

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 aside SRTS stands for safe routes to school so if we see SRTS I know you I

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 don't like the abbreviations but I don't I didn't have enough room to spell it

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 all out so safe routes to school. Pecan Creek and Nettie Schultz which was

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 previously Woodrow Wilson Elementary providing safe routes to school through

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 sidewalk connectivity and crosswalks so those projects will go to construction

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 early next month quarter another year project so quarter one of 25 through

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 quarter one of 2026 estimated completion is 830,000 we got a hundred thirty seven

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 thousand through trip funding have received one reimbursement and will

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 continue to seek reimbursements as construction moves forward. Next up is

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 our UPR quiet zone and pedestrian improvements project summary this will

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 provide sidewalk connectivity improvements to the currently will be

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 added to the currently planned UPR quiet zone improvements in downtown so three

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 rail three rail grade crossings will be improved to provide a widened sidewalks

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 including McKinney Hickory and Sycamore improving pedestrian access between

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 downtown and a DCTA a train station and bus service. So just we finished design

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 planning on the estimated schedule for design was q2 of 2022 so has been a long

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 design process we're anticipating going to construction in q3 of 2025 and we

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 anticipate that finishing up in q4 of 2026 you'll see there's a kind of a big

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 gap between when design is complete and when we go to construction and that's to

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 order the materials that it takes to turn those crossings into quiet zone so

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 there's a big procurement process and there we have to work through. Estimated

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 completion is about eight hundred and thirty two thousand dollars we received

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 or approved for five hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars through trip and

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 then we're working through our first reimbursement which is for the design

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 portion of that project. Loop 288 sidewalks so these are sidewalks along

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 loop 288 between the junction facility for persons experience homelessness and

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 our daily bread facility. New sidewalks will be constructed on the west side of

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 the street south of the junction and on the east side of the street north of

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 McKinney Street to market. A mix of residential and commercial development

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 along this portion of loop 388 will benefit from this side complete

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 sidewalk connectivity so there were a lot of what we call goat pass a lot of

433
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,120
 not connected sidewalks there so this project is really to connect provide

434
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,840
 that full connectivity. This project is currently under construction we

435
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,400
 anticipate construction being complete you know any day now. Estimated

436
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,320
 completion was three hundred sixty thousand dollars so this project was

437
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,640
 fully funded by trip and then we'll request construction or will request

438
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:32,760
 reimbursement once we finish construction. These are our downtown

439
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,720
 sidewalks so this is multiple sidewalk improvements in a downtown area under

440
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:42,880
 our 2018 and 19 CIP sidewalk improvement projects. All the segments are

441
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,560
 completely designed and are planned for construction anywhere from 2022 to 2025

442
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,540
 so some of these are already complete some are planned within the next year.

443
00:45:52,540 --> 00:45:59,260
 I've listed there the segments that are that are affected. Project status were

444
00:45:59,260 --> 00:46:04,420
 currently in construction. We're estimating completing that by quarter one

445
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:11,220
 of 2025. This was estimate completion about 1.2 million dollars and the

446
00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:16,760
 funding request from trip was about 1.1. Working through the first request for

447
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:22,800
 reimbursement on these projects as well. This is our Moore Street on street trail

448
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,000
 so this is Moore Street is currently a two lane street in southeast Denton. The

449
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,120
 city has received multiple complaints about speeding in the corridor so there

450
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,600
 was an opportunity to narrow the street and provide an on-street trail as a

451
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,720
 traffic calming and multimodal access opportunity. So this project will improve

452
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:45,480
 access to the DCTA train, rail trail and buses with their added benefit of

453
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,800
 improving trail user safety by narrowing the rail trail crossing at Moore Street.

454
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:56,640
 So we started design in quarter four of 2022 and we're anticipating going to

455
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,080
 construction quarter three of 2023. We actually brought this project to

456
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,640
 community for community feedback and received a lot of different feedback and

457
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,400
 so instead of just going out and installing something we wanted to back

458
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,120
 up wait for our transportation planning group to get on board and we're

459
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,280
 currently kicking that project back off working through it with our

460
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,960
 transportation planning and our community to make sure that what we're

461
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:28,000
 installing will provide the benefit that that the community wants and needs. So

462
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:34,200
 estimate completion is about $193,000 and our anticipated request or

463
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:41,280
 anticipated reimbursement from trip will be $152,500. We'll start reimbursement as

464
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:49,200
 soon as we start some go through design and start construction. Shady Oaks DCTA

465
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,720
 crossing quiet zone improvements. So currently there are three DCTA

466
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,960
 crossings with wayside horns in the city of Denton, Sycamore, Shady Oaks and

467
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,680
 Mayhill. Both Sycamore and Mayhill crossings will be improved with city CIP

468
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,840
 projects removing the need for those wayside horns so that leaves only Shady

469
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,840
 Oaks as the as being one where they have to blow the horn. So as a part of this

470
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,040
 project we'll be adding quad gates to eliminate the requirement of the

471
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,240
 wayside horn and provide a true quiet zone corridor once all three projects

472
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:27,560
 are complete. So project status we're finished with design. We are looking to

473
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,640
 go to construction in quarter three of 2025 and hoping to be done by quarter

474
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,600
 four of 2026. Again you see that gap between design and construction and

475
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,000
 that's really to procure those materials to start that construction. This was

476
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,360
 fully funded by TRIP so $75,000 and of course we'll work through the

477
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,040
 reimbursement once we start construction.

478
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:56,880
 Katy Trail Mayhill in Colorado. So this will have improvements required for the

479
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,060
 closure of the at grade crossing at grade DCTA rail crossing on Mayhill for

480
00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:06,520
 the new Mayhill bridge opening. Improvements include but a not limited

481
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,680
 to pavement removal, curb and gutter, 10-foot sidewalk and ramps and

482
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,640
 pedestrian signal upgrades. So as a side note DCTA agreed the existing

483
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,480
 pedestrian sidewalk crossing of the tracks can remain open allowing access to

484
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,120
 the Katy Trail along the west side of the DCTA tracks accessing Met Park

485
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:32,440
 Station. Estimated schedule so quarter four 2024 will finish up design by the

486
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,240
 city then DCTA has to do their design for the work that they have to do as a

487
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:42,080
 part of that. They're anticipating starting that in January and then

488
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,200
 hopefully we can move to construction pretty quickly after that quarter one of

489
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,840
 2025 with having the complete construction done in quarter three of

490
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:58,120
 2025. Estimated completion $800,000 with $514,000 being eligible for

491
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:05,640
 reimbursement through trip. Bonnie Bray and UNT side pass. So this is a part of

492
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:12,040
 the Bonnie Bray phase 3 project. We are using the trip funding to provide the

493
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:17,560
 side pass along that corridor. So this is from I-35 to Rose Lawn which widens

494
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,720
 Bonnie Bray from a two-lane rural to a four lane divided urban and includes a

495
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:27,520
 five-foot sidewalk and 10-foot side pass along both sides of Bonnie Bray. Street

496
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,760
 and pedestrian improvements between I-35 and Willowwood will provide better

497
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,840
 access and service to DCTA University routes. So this project is currently under

498
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:42,760
 construction. We're anticipating paving to start in Q2 of 2026. This is a nine

499
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,200
 million dollar portion of the project so paving and sidewalk improvements between

500
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:53,720
 I-35 and Willowwood and we're getting five million dollars back from the trip

501
00:50:53,720 --> 00:51:01,960
 funding request. McKinney Street multimodal improvements. So in addition to

502
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,120
 the city's active 10-foot multi-use path project between loop 288 and Woodrow

503
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,560
 Lane currently in design, feasibility study will be conducted along McKinney

504
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,840
 Street from Carroll Boulevard to Woodrow Lane in an effort to provide multimodal

505
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,940
 mobility enhancement enhancements for non-motorized and shared mobility users

506
00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:25,480
 incorporating a combination of mixed-use paths and/or bike lanes with user safety

507
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,720
 as the prime focus. So status we're currently in the feasibility for planning

508
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:34,480
 and safety stage so our transportation planning group is working through this

509
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:40,760
 with our support. Got an estimated schedule there and then the funding we

510
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,960
 anticipate it being about six point seven million dollars with the city

511
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:53,680
 providing five point two five of that and trip providing one point five. Woodrow

512
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,280
 Lane multimodal improvements. Woodrow Lane between East McKinney and Spencer

513
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,120
 will provide multimodal mobility enhancements for non-motorized and

514
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,880
 shared mobility users based on feasibility studies incorporating a

515
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,200
 combination of side paths, on-street paths and/or bike lanes with user safety as a

516
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,680
 prime focus. So this is another one that transportation planning is leading at

517
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:21,680
 this point with CIP support currently in the initiation feasibility for planning

518
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,560
 and safety portion. Estimate completion is about eight hundred fifty thousand

519
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,920
 dollars with it being fully reimbursable through trip funding.

520
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,960
 Moore Street Woodrow Lane signal transit improvements. So this project will

521
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,600
 provide a traffic signal and pedestrian safety signals at Moore Street and

522
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:45,160
 Woodrow Lane. The transit signal priority will also be implemented with these

523
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:50,360
 signal improvements. These improvements will enhance the Moore Street

524
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:56,600
 reconstruction project completed in 2023 by with a five-foot sidewalk was

525
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,920
 installed previously and these signal improvements will also complement the

526
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,400
 Moore Street on-street trail project approved in our 2022 trip

527
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,080
 submissions. So this one's also being headed up by transportation planning at

528
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,520
 this group. At this stage I'm hoping to go to construction in quarter two of

529
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:20,640
 2025 with eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars being reimbursed

530
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,240
 through trip.

531
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:28,240
 Ronnie Road side paths and safety improvements. So this is a current

532
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:33,960
 project that CIP is heading up and we added some trip funding to take care of

533
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:40,120
 the sidewalk improvements. So providing a eight-foot side path the new DISD

534
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,880
 Elementary School is currently in construction will open in 2025. So we

535
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,440
 wanted to make sure that we're ensuring safety our student pedestrian safety

536
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:54,720
 until the project is the ultimate project is complete. The city has already

537
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,560
 installed a temporary five-foot side path so this project would make that a

538
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,080
 permanent side path. Anticipate construction starting in quarter three of

539
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:11,400
 2024 and then the funding the project is actually 6.5 million dollars total 5.7

540
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:20,360
 is provided by the city with 750,000 being reimbursable. And our sidewalk

541
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,960
 connectivity and shelter pad allowances. So this was a request for 1 million

542
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,360
 dollars to support the DCTA managed design and construction of 88 concrete

543
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,880
 landing and shelter pads and sidewalk connections to and from existing and new

544
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:39,040
 bus stop locations and high priority locations along connect routes three six

545
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,280
 and seven. This one's currently through initiate or is currently in the

546
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,240
 initiation stage. Transportation services is coordinated with DCT DCTA to

547
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,560
 understand where those pads will be so that we can design the connectivity to

548
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,720
 them. Estimate completion will be a million dollars and trip funding

549
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:05,160
 received will be that 1 million dollars. That was a lot of information. So John

550
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,960
 talked man it was it was a lot but I mean we have a lot of projects we're

551
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,960
 working with DCT DCTA on and working to get those completed. So happy to answer

552
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,160
 any questions I've got my partners from transportation planning here so if we

553
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:26,120
 got anything for them. Okay thank you great presentation. I'm just gonna take

554
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:33,480
 the privilege of going first because I am recognizing that the district that I

555
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:39,880
 serve the group of people that count on me to speak for them to advocate for you

556
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,800
 know some of their deeds. It's just clearly evident here that you all have

557
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,880
 been listening you all have been working very hard to you know get us to this

558
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,720
 point where I can I can kind of like I'm so happy for district one. I really feel

559
00:55:55,720 --> 00:56:01,280
 very emotional about this because this is what people they pick the phone up

560
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,600
 and say hey I am tired of hearing this horn in my backyard. Is there something

561
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,360
 that you can do about this? You know and then you act on it and you make sure

562
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,080
 that it happens and now we can see that it's coming to fruition. I am

563
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:20,240
 representing an older area of the city and just want to say that there are a

564
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:25,040
 lot of things that are happening in in the area that I serve so thank you all

565
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,920
 very much. I know I know it wasn't because you all like me more than

566
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:37,200
 everyone else but it is a fact that that area does need. It is a fact that that

567
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,360
 area had been neglected for a long time and now we're catching up so thank you

568
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,720
 very much. I also want to congratulate the folks over in Southeast Dent and

569
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:50,560
 they've been very concerned and complaining about Moore Street for I

570
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:56,720
 don't know past 30 years so to see that come to fruition is very it's just it's

571
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:01,760
 just too much too much to say so I'm just gonna stop there I do have a lot of

572
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,400
 page numbers written here page 11 page 16 to go back but I know that I would

573
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,600
 take up too much time so I'm gonna go ahead and start here on the left side

574
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,600
 this time and let's just have this conversation coming down this way. Thank

575
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,880
 you chair. I'm really excited about a lot of the the sidewalk projects I've seen

576
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,200
 that loop 288 one is starting to kind of go in and it looks like maybe there's

577
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,920
 also a tech stop putting in some sidewalk north of there if you don't

578
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,960
 know that off the top of your head that's okay but there's great there's

579
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,800
 great stuff happening because there are all the goat paths what suggests there's

580
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,080
 a lot of foot track traffic over there so that's really exciting the quiet zones

581
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,000
 is really exciting more Street is really exciting I do have a question about more

582
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,840
 Street so you kind of talked about the timeline and the construction was

583
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,680
 supposed to be 2023 but we're sort of you know making sure everybody's on the

584
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,760
 same page and happy with what what's gonna happen and do you do we have sort

585
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,200
 of a time frame on on when we might think construction would begin on that

586
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,880
 yeah so as far as construction I don't want to give you a time frame I mean

587
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,520
 we've kicked off that project within the last couple months starting to go

588
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,520
 through those conversations really what happened kind of back in 2023 we we

589
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,920
 learned some lessons about some projects we put in we don't we learned we don't

590
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,360
 want to assume what the community wants we don't want to just say you know this

591
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,680
 is best practice we're gonna do this for you want to make sure that we're

592
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,800
 talking with our community making sure that what we put in is what they what

593
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,080
 they're seeing at that out there what they need so that really calls us to

594
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,400
 take a step back and say you know we need to do some more research on this so

595
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,360
 once Farhan his team got on board we've actually had a couple meetings within

596
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,880
 the last I'd say last three months to start formulating what our plan is to

597
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,640
 to really make sure that we're providing the benefits that we need out there so I

598
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,160
 don't want to give you a dumb it's really gonna depend on kind of the the

599
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,040
 feedback we get from from the community and making sure that we do it right

600
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,740
 excellent thank you yeah I know there's some challenges with that segment I've

601
00:58:51,740 --> 00:59:00,040
 gone and looked at it one second we find where I was so Katie trail what was

602
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,880
 initially pitched when asking for the trip funding is very different if you

603
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:13,160
 want the number that's slide 13 yeah so what was pitched was that there was

604
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,560
 going to be a trail so that's sort of the dotted line there and that that

605
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:23,600
 would eliminate two at-grade crossings for trail traffic across the line and

606
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,800
 also make it easier like those z-gate crossing things that you have to weave

607
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,280
 through really hard for people with cargo bikes and people pulling kiddie

608
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,880
 trailers it's hard for them to navigate that so this would have eliminated two

609
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:39,160
 sort of unnecessary crossings of the railroad and so that's what was pitched

610
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,520
 and this is quite a bit different can you describe sort of the process and

611
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:49,800
 reasoning of sort of going away from the trail and who was like what

612
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,600
 stakeholders were approached about this when making this decision sort of who

613
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,960
 got to have a say or opinion in it because I had not seen this until this

614
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,560
 presentation to just change it happened I had no idea sure yeah so really when

615
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:07,080
 we're kind of pitching these projects to DCTA you know we're looking at kind of

616
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,280
 the same things you just described like this would probably be the the best case

617
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,160
 scenario this eliminates these things and these things once we get the project

618
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,080
 and we start designing them then we get out there and say okay there's some

619
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,400
 major drainage issues out here there's a gonna be a pedestrian bridge that's

620
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,200
 required in order to put this trail in and so once we start going to kind of

621
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,440
 going through you know all those pitfalls of the proper finding all these

622
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,120
 pitfalls of a project we have to determine do we keep moving forward and

623
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,240
 pump more money into this or we back up and try to find a better solution and so

624
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:45,120
 for this one we worked with DCTA as a part of changing the scope of this and

625
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,520
 that's kind of where it came from we found a better I'm not gonna say better

626
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,840
 solution but a more cost-effective solution that still meet met the

627
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,000
 requirements of the project and that's kind of where the scope changes a part

628
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,800
 of this project I will say that this that you're seeing scoped here is not

629
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,880
 dead you know we're still looking at trying to to make that connection because

630
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,280
 I do think it's valuable to have that kind of connection on the north side of

631
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,000
 that DCTA bridge so it is a project we're still you know trying to make

632
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:21,720
 happen but that was kind of where where that change came from and just to

633
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,720
 clarify I feel like you clarified it but I just want to ask it's very

634
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,200
 specifically so somebody was asking in terms of the road the permanent closure

635
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:35,400
 between the new Mayhill and the railroad so that the roadway for cars is being

636
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,360
 permanently closed I assume the pavements being removed or something

637
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:44,980
 along those lines eventually let me if you can clarify pedestrian traffic will

638
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:49,560
 still be able to go from the rail trail to let's say that light blue line that

639
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,520
 you have here they can still still be able to cross the rail there to go down

640
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,960
 Colorado Boulevard yes the rail crossing will still stay in place for pedestrians

641
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:04,400
 okay I just wanted to make sure that I had that accurate yeah because I don't

642
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,840
 want to give people wrong information I think I have one more I'm sorry I'm

643
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,560
 having to you did I don't know what it was but that was the probably the main

644
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,780
 one I think I think those were some of the main ones it's a lot of stuff and I

645
01:02:17,780 --> 01:02:20,320
 really appreciate I think I'm the one who asked for this presentation so I

646
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:30,520
 really appreciate y'all giving this to us absolutely one please a slide 14 Bonnie

647
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:40,520
 Bray will will will sidewalks ever precede road construction I don't want

648
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,520
 to tell you they never will but typically those are the last things that

649
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,980
 go in okay okay because they're they're easily breakable I mean they're much

650
01:02:48,980 --> 01:02:53,400
 thinner concrete and so you've still got big machinery moving around and doing

651
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,560
 things you'll end up breaking them and having to come back and so rule of thumb

652
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,960
 is it's the last thing that's done right before we do side and those types of

653
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,320
 things side is usually in landscaping is typically the last thing but right

654
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:14,360
 before that sidewalks perfect thank you yes sir yeah I had a appreciate I I love

655
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:20,600
 I'm glad that Commissioner Rubar asked the questions it I I know it was a lot

656
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,000
 to do a John Poulter type but everything in the kitchen sink presentation but I

657
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:34,120
 think it provides a lot of a framework and contextuality to the issues so we

658
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:39,400
 have a number of projects and because you have to cue them and you can't do

659
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:44,200
 them all at once because you don't have an infinite crew some of them are going

660
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:50,400
 back to older funds if do we ever have any problems with I know all the funds

661
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:56,760
 are encumbered but do we ever run into issues with our friends at DCTA where

662
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,920
 their sweeps or something else where the funds are clawed back because of our

663
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:06,160
 timelines we're never in any danger of losing that funding right yeah so I'll

664
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,120
 say to my knowledge we've never had any funding taken back from us there are

665
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,680
 projects where like you pointed out we're multiple years behind but that's

666
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,920
 really just a conversation with DCTA we let them know we keep them up to date on

667
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,400
 what's going on if we need to shift money around or move it to a different

668
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,840
 scope that's a conversation with DCTA so they've been great partners in any of

669
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:33,320
 these projects to where you know if we're behind or not showing any progress

670
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,120
 it's just a conversation with them and I think within the last couple of years we

671
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,600
 really just across the board and all capital projects is making sure that

672
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,640
 we're putting these projects out in a timely manner not letting anything sit

673
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,440
 and so catching up that backlog and I don't foresee that being a problem

674
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:55,400
 anytime soon no I appreciate that it comes up all the time in various

675
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,740
 budgeting talks in various groups like well there's X million dollars sitting

676
01:05:00,740 --> 01:05:03,560
 well there's not X million dollars sitting there because they're all

677
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,880
 encumbered funds well I I'm a little different now I like to spend the money

678
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,480
 as fast as they give it to me because if not somebody else will come and use it

679
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,680
 for their project so as soon as I get it I'm gonna start building stuff the the

680
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:25,760
 other question I had and I guess I I got sort of two and I noticed something like

681
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:33,240
 project 18 and 22 so I guess that's slide 14 slide 18 it was a little

682
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:40,520
 unclear to me is it is it street and side path or just side path or both

683
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:46,760
 that's being paid out trip funds yeah so specifically 18 Bonnie Bray was already

684
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,500
 going to be a project the only thing that we have to use the trip fund

685
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:55,360
 specifically for those those different type of improvements so we tell DCTA

686
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,420
 hey we're gonna put in side paths as a part of Bonnie Bray phase five but we

687
01:05:59,420 --> 01:06:04,160
 can only reimburse for the pieces that are approved as a part of DCTA so for

688
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,360
 this one specifically Bonnie Bray you won't we won't be able to get any

689
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,040
 reimbursements until almost the end of the project because we're not gonna put

690
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,400
 in the sidewalks to the end so we have to submit pay apps that show hey we

691
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,680
 installed this many feet of eight foot sidewalk which was the approved scope

692
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:26,480
 and then we get reimbursed for it so for these we're we're completing street

693
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,800
 curb everything drainage but we're getting reimbursed for the side path

694
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,440
 portion correct right okay all right that that's one piece and then I guess

695
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:41,600
 the only other question I had is a slide forward project e7 I guess that's the

696
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:56,240
 bridge what I'm the new bridge Mayhill yeah what what how much of that is trip

697
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:05,080
 funding because I mean almost all these the scopes were for side path for

698
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:13,000
 amenities for bike and pad uses for routes are we we didn't do we did we

699
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,840
 build the bridge with trip funding no okay that was the concern it was sort of

700
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:22,160
 related to the previous question so this is just the pathing correct all of the

701
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,960
 portion that was approved as a part of the trip request okay great that that

702
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:33,440
 that's all mine thank you okay I just want to start out by echoing Suzy a lot

703
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,600
 of good projects here appreciate you telling us about them and more

704
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:42,040
 importantly you doing them righty road the bus pads all of the sidewalks

705
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:48,200
 especially to the schools so I just have two questions so I notice on a lot of

706
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,760
 these maps you have DCTA bus routes right currently there's as far as I'm

707
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,360
 aware not a publicly available map with all of the bus routes in the city of

708
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:03,680
 Denton DCTA has their route maps but each one chose individually a single

709
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,000
 route so you can look at route 7 and then to figure out how you would get

710
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,720
 transferred route 6 you have to look at their map of route 6 and then look at

711
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,000
 their map of route 7 and go oh do these intersect if somewhere so if that's

712
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:23,200
 information that we could post publicly and I you know I hate to say do DCTA's

713
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,320
 job for them but you know throw on some schedule I think that would be a good

714
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:32,440
 public resource and then second I just I want to ask about the McKinney kind of

715
01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:36,800
 interim safety improvements that have been discussed with protecting those

716
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:42,400
 shoulders that are currently being used as sidewalk is bike lane is that still

717
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:47,200
 on the menu it is so I actually have a project manager that's over the McKinney

718
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,700
 the permanent one and then we've also tasked him to work with our consultant

719
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:55,400
 on that to give us a proposal for some of those temporary sidewalks are

720
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,960
 temporary measures I think I'm trying to remember when he said to me but I want

721
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:03,200
 to say it was late last week that he sent me a couple of options so we're

722
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,280
 working with our transportation planning team to determine which option is the

723
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,720
 best where we're gonna put those you know exactly how that because any

724
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,720
 funding that we use for that temporary comes out of the big pot for the

725
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:20,160
 permanent so well make sure that we're not you know putting off a permanent

726
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,200
 solution just to do temporary so working through all those logistics but

727
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,080
 definitely still working on that yeah and then I mean if we do we were just

728
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,960
 having that presentation on baller so if we if we get something I imagine if it

729
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,080
 becomes just a temporary project or it's upgraded to permanent infrastructure if

730
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,400
 we want maybe permanent bike lanes on the side of that we could we could go

731
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,280
 reuse those and put them somewhere else and then repeat the whole process so

732
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:53,560
 thank you thank you anybody else you know again thank you everybody got you

733
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,720
 all thank you so much for your work not Scott thank you that's got yeah Scott

734
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:14,320
 didn't do anything thank you staff memorandum DMC 2 4 - 0 4 6 staff member

735
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:21,700
 random quality control metric so I won't read through all this stuff but we

736
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:27,040
 provided this as a part of one of the questions that came up last last time so

737
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:32,460
 if y'all have any further questions comments be happy to speak to any

738
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:36,320
 questions yes question yeah this was mine and I appreciate you bringing this back

739
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:42,880
 and it because it was problematic that we we seem to have a burst of failures

740
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,440
 and and the language that was in the report was something that like we had a

741
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:53,160
 dry base and that was causing excessive movement or something like that so I

742
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,880
 guess my question y'all is in light of that in light of you know whatever

743
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:04,840
 climate we're in now versus whatever climate we had in the past do we have a

744
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,880
 plan of attack to to provide solutions so we don't have failures that cost this

745
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,680
 money so we build it right for the new conditions and so can you address

746
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,760
 something like that sure so absolutely what we've been doing or what we did as

747
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,600
 a part of that is more more soil testing so to understand exactly what we have

748
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:29,120
 out there what the conditions are getting with our geotechnical engineers

749
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,720
 to provide better solutions for what kind of pavements we want to use we've

750
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:37,120
 actually changed up some of our asphalt mixes that a little a little more

751
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:42,200
 pliable so they move a little more so a whole range of different things you know

752
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,440
 really everything is on the table so we don't want to just continually doing the

753
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:49,880
 same thing that we've always done if we know it's going to not be a good

754
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,680
 solution so being flexible and being able to look at different different

755
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,520
 things and making sure that we're doing it right do you do you have a feel for

756
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:05,920
 how much I mean I know in the in the table it mentioned you know what kind of

757
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,080
 sidewalks and what kind of streets and miles but do we have a we have a feel

758
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:17,440
 for when it failed and we have failures all over town for various things what

759
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:22,720
 what percent of our lane miles that was I mean if it if it was point oh one

760
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,480
 percent then it's a one-off and we absorb it we move on right but if it was

761
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:32,220
 like 10 or 15 or 20 percent of our our lane miles then then oh this is a you

762
01:12:32,220 --> 01:12:36,400
 know priority thing we got to fix it hard yeah you have a feel for that sure

763
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:41,280
 so I'll say just for clarification this table right here is really from our our

764
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,720
 streets department this is what they do as a part of their their maintenance and

765
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,280
 I don't believe and I'll Danny can correct me if I'm wrong that they really

766
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:53,920
 had a large portion of any kind of failures as a part of what they did as

767
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:59,880
 their maintenance the items that I listed here on this section was really

768
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:04,040
 based on our 2019 bond program just because it was easier to pull that

769
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,840
 information and give a percentage we only had one street that actually

770
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:14,840
 failed that they had to tear up and redo we did have multiple segments really

771
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,160
 bring that old north kind of area I think it was eight eight or ten where we

772
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,480
 noticed the issue and we were able to pause it and that's why we got a lot of

773
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:28,280
 calls from our residents saying hey you came out here and now you're gone what's

774
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,060
 going on and the reason was we didn't want to put down a product that we knew

775
01:13:32,060 --> 01:13:36,520
 was gonna fail so we were working through that that process so actual

776
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:42,080
 failures was a small small portion like I said there's a you know there are there

777
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,560
 were some minor quality issues but they all fell within the limitations that we

778
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,960
 allow in our spec and so we did you know crack ceiling or something like that

779
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,080
 that that fixed those issues and we were able to move forward with those so I

780
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:59,640
 mean a really small percentage less than a percent of you know that that project

781
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,480
 where we actually had catastrophic failures that the contractor had to

782
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:11,400
 come out and redo the whole thing okay so we don't anticipate I mean assuming

783
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:17,680
 the the solutions and the different paving mix we don't anticipate a big

784
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:24,720
 financial impact out of line with our our projections going forward yeah and

785
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,800
 really the way our contract is written it is the responsibility of the

786
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,480
 contractor to provide us a quality product now if there's outside you know

787
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:38,240
 this soil issue that's kind of an outside thing and so we work with our

788
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,880
 contractors we want to be good partners and make sure that there's not an undue

789
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,520
 burden on them for things they can't control but if it's a quality issue like

790
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,520
 the one that failed we don't have any financial responsibility for that they

791
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,080
 come back and they tear it out their expense and put it back in okay

792
01:14:53,080 --> 01:15:01,600
 appreciate you thank you yes sir anybody all right um I just want to note to the

793
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:13,120
 community that I'm I'm read here that the city has 1,533 miles that is

794
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:25,720
 maintained and they do that with 51 employees and in you can also go to the

795
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:32,560
 strategic planning website if you have any additional questions they put that

796
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,760
 on these things up looks like it's tracked monthly and a pub and it's

797
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,440
 publicly available on that website we do have the gentleman that sits next to my

798
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:49,080
 left he's very much a streets guy we have our bike person we have our streets

799
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:58,280
 guy here he is staying on top of that for us as community so thank you mr.

800
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:03,440
 Holland so thank you all for your work thank you oh yes we have oh you have

801
01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:07,400
 something all right I apologize when she asked final questions I forgot that I

802
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:13,080
 had a question so on the it was one of the attachments what was it called it's

803
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:18,440
 not this but it's the little chart the street metrics report I know we covered

804
01:16:18,440 --> 01:16:21,400
 this in a previous meeting and my apologies for forgetting that one so the

805
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,240
 four point five miles on that first row of reconstruction that's just what

806
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,660
 streets department reconstructed correct that's not total across the city all

807
01:16:29,660 --> 01:16:33,560
 departments correct Dana Kramer deputy director of operations yes these are the

808
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,960
 metrics that we strike we track internally for our streets department we

809
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,960
 have this set up for streets and drainage and they're all on the website

810
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,240
 and we track a monthly through that do we have somewhere that we can see total

811
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,560
 like regardless of what pot of money or what department it comes from do we have

812
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,040
 some sort of full list so we can see like a bigger picture of how much as a

813
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,180
 city we're reconstructing every year and if there's other pots of money doing

814
01:16:58,180 --> 01:17:02,060
 mill and overlay you know just lumping it all together so we have like a full

815
01:17:02,060 --> 01:17:04,520
 picture because I always get a little confused when I just see those little

816
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,900
 numbers right I don't think we have anywhere specifically on the website

817
01:17:08,900 --> 01:17:12,200
 that has that posted that is something we can look at and I know we can't get

818
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,600
 you those numbers yeah that would be really helpful for just a future meeting

819
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:21,640
 or something okay thanks and one thing I did want to clarify on the total miles

820
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:30,120
 for the street those are actually lane miles lane miles so we have roughly 500

821
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:37,520
 550 miles in the city of roadway and then we have over 15 1500 and I think it

822
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,840
 was 33 lane miles that we maintain a lane mile is actually a lane width and a

823
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:47,380
 mile long so you know right out here McKinney is multiple lane miles because

824
01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:50,800
 it's multiple widths wide so I just want to make sure we clarify that well thank

825
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,640
 you I'm glad I brought it up you know I needed up some clarification on that

826
01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:07,120
 appreciate it all right anything else upcoming public meetings all right so

827
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:15,080
 this is our future staff items so we provided the report for the bollards so

828
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:23,360
 that's we'd like to request to remove that okay the next couple will be we're

829
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,820
 still working on a transportation planning is working on that so that's

830
01:18:25,820 --> 01:18:30,080
 the citywide parking study the concerns for bike lists and pedestrian safety on

831
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:35,840
 North and South Austin growing the bug bike bus programs and Hawks best

832
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:42,080
 practices so those will be upcoming increasing wrapped equipment box

833
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:48,240
 locations that was already provided it looks like yeah do we want to leave that

834
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:56,240
 one on okay sorry that was coming back Jasmine's keeping me straight okay so we

835
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,920
 reported the quality quality control metrics so we'll request to remove that

836
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:06,160
 but we'll work on coming back with that full list of project or lane miles or

837
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:11,920
 however we want to work through that quarterly construction report that will

838
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,360
 be coming back or quarterly transportation services report will be

839
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:21,560
 coming back both of those are done quarterly side path and trail access and

840
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,160
 Mayhill Edwards alignment so we'll provide another update as we move

841
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,480
 through that there's going to be so there is a I'll clarify there is going

842
01:19:29,480 --> 01:19:35,440
 to be I'll call it Mayhill phase 3 so we did close that that roadway but we still

843
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:38,080
 have to go back out there we're gonna tear out the pavement and then we're

844
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:44,760
 gonna do some adjustments to the bike path bike path bike pedestrian path and

845
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,840
 then our transportation planning group did go out there and do some additional

846
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:56,440
 markings you know try to make that a safer crossing so and then we worked

847
01:19:56,440 --> 01:20:00,960
 through the trip funding this time as well so we're requesting to remove that

848
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:07,200
 everybody's comfortable with the trip funding conversation okay all right

849
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:14,360
 perfect thank you so much or there any other items that let me let me clarify

850
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:20,160
 something here I'm sorry I'm have to interject here are we down here on MC 24

851
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:26,360
 days 047 future meeting topics right now yes ma'am okay that's why we are sorry

852
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:32,280
 because I thought we were still up here on MC 2 at 4 6 but we're down here any

853
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:40,200
 future items yes I have a question about row number 3 was that I feel like what

854
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,240
 do we call you committee member Bray may have brought that one up was that

855
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,960
 specific to some of the roads in downtown being closed for renovation or

856
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:56,560
 was that independent of that do we remember what that was I might have been

857
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:04,920
 talking about like the remarking element locusts after rebuild and potentially

858
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:10,200
 like including bike paths or something in that I that was a while ago yeah I'm

859
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,280
 trying to figure out that was something we still need or not mostly if it was

860
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,120
 like a temporary situation we can look into it we'll go back and watch the

861
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:22,360
 watch the recordings and see who brought it up and what we were talking about and

862
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,880
 for something I'd like to add for a future thing is I'd like to hear an

863
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,280
 update on wherever we are and see whatever current designs we have for

864
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,640
 some of our major road projects so Bonnie Bray like any portions that are

865
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:41,920
 under design or have designs completed including 30% designs mingo if we have

866
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,760
 any level of design on that and then Hickory Creek Road those are the ones

867
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:51,320
 coming to mind I'm just curious especially I'm a little jumpy after the

868
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,480
 Mayhill Edwards thing that sometimes things are on the ground and it's too

869
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:58,040
 late to change it and like for some reason we didn't notice something so

870
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:03,800
 I'd like to see some of that now before stuff is on the ground to ensure that

871
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,320
 what's what was promised is what's being delivered so if we could get those three

872
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,200
 items especially knowing specifically what the plans are for bike ped at this

873
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:22,600
 stage sure thanks I am going to add McKinney on McKinney Street at the

874
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:30,080
 courthouse I'm still just a bit concerned about the crosswalk game there

875
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:37,040
 I know that we we all look back in your history book and see when we discuss

876
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,800
 that because I know that there was some concern about the crosswalking especially

877
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,760
 if we want people to our businesses would like for the people at the

878
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,960
 courthouse to come to their business and do whatever it is that they're gonna do

879
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,240
 over there it's still and there's a little hump you know a little heel there

880
01:22:54,240 --> 01:23:00,320
 there's still some concern there in that area and can we revisit that sure maybe

881
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,280
 put up a crosswalk at least something I don't know what it is you don't have to

882
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:09,920
 answer that right now yeah we'll look into it look into that please also over

883
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,840
 in that area there's a little street called Janey Street that's on the side

884
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,800
 of those businesses there I'm noticing cars are starting to park along there

885
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,680
 for whatever reason I don't know if they're visiting the business or

886
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:29,280
 whatever but the street is just needs somebody to just put it on the list for

887
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:34,200
 us to take a look at I think it's a part of one of our 2019 bond projects as

888
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:39,360
 well okay but I'll verify that okay it's not curved is that the one with the big

889
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:45,360
 tree road is not curved yeah so I want to start taking a look at that little

890
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,400
 community over there I know that there's been some world work over there but

891
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,760
 there's still some things that are missing for those folks over there I'm

892
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:59,160
 about 99% sure that it's one of our 2019 bond neighborhood projects I think we

893
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:03,320
 brought it up once before I think it was because of the tree but I'll revisit it

894
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:17,560
 please revisit that in the course and then of course I'm probably I'm hoping

895
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:25,520
 that I'm sure that that Paisley Roodale corner street connectivity the project

896
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:34,440
 maybe could bring that Roodale over to the page paisley it's kind of messed up

897
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:37,960
 over there yes ma'am there's no curves or anything over there for those folks

898
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:42,440
 we want to take care of them sidewalks over there I'm just trying to get it all

899
01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:47,280
 on them as well I'm thinking about it so that's what I have I like to have you

900
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:55,920
 on a yes ma'am with and I'm glad we're visiting this because I forgot to

901
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,680
 mention it like yesterday at council and I think it's probably more appropriate

902
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:05,720
 here for the matrix for mobility anyway with the realignment of the quiet zone

903
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:14,400
 at Roodale and Mingo that's our property across the street from the service

904
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:21,760
 center where we have some gravel piles and whatnot I I don't know whether you

905
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,880
 want to deliver to council or deliver to this group first I would like sort of an

906
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,460
 expectation planning sort of like what what's the alignment of our property in

907
01:25:30,460 --> 01:25:35,240
 the roadways and and how's that that mobility impacts gonna as we come south

908
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:41,320
 towards the courthouse what what what do we see the use of our property kind of

909
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,880
 and on that alignment and how that's that's gonna work as that transition

910
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,800
 happens I'd like to add that yeah we can bring that back and that's going to be a

911
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:55,080
 part of our service center rebuild that we're doing currently and the Mingo

912
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,800
 Roodale 2023 bond program I believe we're going to we're going to utilize

913
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:05,040
 that land for some kind of re aligning the service center but we can bring

914
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:22,680
 back what that kind of schematic looks like absolutely January January 29th

915
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:29,300
 2025 you should have that on your have you all sent the calendar out yet

916
01:26:29,300 --> 01:26:39,760
 calendar invites out yeah you should see all right um next thing concluding items

917
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:47,640
 oh oh we have to take a phone for future items all right future items we need a

918
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:52,040
 motion for approval for the future items a motion to approve the future items I

919
01:26:52,040 --> 01:27:02,360
 second all in paper our discussion okay all in favor thank you I was just giving

920
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,920
 that instruction concluding items do we have any concluding items Merry

921
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,240
 Christmas everyone Merry Christmas everyone happy holidays have you all

922
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:16,360
 shout out to Chandra again I know I shouted out last month but last month

923
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:24,520
 Chandra excuse me excuse me it's good the meeting is not closed sir have see

924
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:38,640
 thank you she's gonna make you come back all right we're still doing concluding

925
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:43,720
 items we've seen happy holidays I do want to just send another shout out to

926
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:48,760
 the city employees you guys are doing a great job and thank you for all your

927
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:57,080
 work now we're gonna close this meeting I wanted to do a shout out to Chandra

928
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:02,240
 which I gave a shout out last month for going with the bike bus and observing

929
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,920
 the kids and talking to the parents and they've already implemented some stop

930
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,840
 signs and some infrastructure to help those kids already so I've already

931
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,240
 heard from some of the parents their kids are able to cross the street more

932
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,660
 easily where some of these stop signs are put in around the school so really

933
01:28:15,660 --> 01:28:18,440
 solid work I really appreciate the responsiveness and I know the parents do

934
01:28:18,440 --> 01:28:33,840
 too yes I really appreciate it all right thank you all right I think that's it

935
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:40,360
 well the meeting is we'll close this meeting at 1126 thank you