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 >> Good morning and welcome to this meeting of the mobility committee.

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 Seeing that we have a quorum, I'm going to open the meeting at 8, 10 AM.

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 That appears to be an inconvenient time, so next time we'll try for seven.

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 We'll move into item A and consider approval of the minutes.

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 I'll entertain a motion.

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 >> So moved.

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 >> All in favor?

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 >> Aye. >> Aye.

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 >> We're going to jump a little bit around in order to accommodate our high maintenance

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 representation from TXDOT and go into item E,

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 receive a report and hold a discussion regarding TXDOT on system projects in the Denton area.

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 >> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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 John Polster, Innovative Transportation Solutions, 2701 Valleyview Lane, Farmer's Branch, Texas.

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 So we'll start with the report we have here.

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 The first sheet, hopefully, is the, how do I get rid of that?

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 How do I get- >> I'm going down, that's the next sheet.

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 >> How do I get rid of the black thing?

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 >> Just click anywhere.

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 >> I got other talents.

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 >> There we go.

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 >> Okay.

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 >> It doesn't disappear until nine o'clock.

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 >> Okay.

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 >> It's too early in the day.

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 >> Okay, so this is a list of all the projects that's in the report.

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 And the estimated revenue strain that we think that that represents.

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 And most of these projects, now the 35 projects are funded, are fully funded.

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 So we're looking at a little less than $2.5 billion worth of improvements on this report.

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 So your first report is 2181.

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 This is a project that was suspended when TXDOT terminated the contract with MCM.

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 We have gotten information back from the Dallas district after our last meeting.

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 We met with the district to see what the efforts could be to exploit this project.

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 And they decided that they think they're going to go ahead and

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 just surrender on all of the issues related to time and money.

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 And get the new contractor onsite by this about mid-October.

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 So they were saying end of year.

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 Now they're saying they think they're going to be able to get a new contractor

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 But they only sent that to me in a text message.

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 So when I get it officially, I'll put it in the report.

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 Then your next project is your Fort Worth Drive project.

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 It's under construction.

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 So we have a TXDOT report related to this project.

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 Again, this is- >> Actually, if you'd just wait a moment.

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 So I know that Councilmember Briggs gets a lot of questions on this.

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 Just so you're here.

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 >> 2181, TXDOT has said that they're going to basically give in on the time and

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 the cost and just try to get a new contractor onsite by October.

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 They were saying the end of year.

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 But when we met with them, we went over the history of how well TXDOT

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 And at the end of the day, they end up giving up anyway.

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 >> Okay, thank you.

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 >> So October, mid-October, we should have a contractor back on site.

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 So on your Fort Worth Drive, this is a seam of construction, essentially.

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 The major emphasis of work right now is at the shoe fly for the railroad.

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 And a lot of the concrete pavement up at the frontage road at 35E.

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 So that's pretty much what that says.

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 And they're still on track for 2021 timeframe to complete the project.

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 Do they have an updated date as to when they're gonna shut it down?

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 >> Cuz I saw the bridge there on the 28th.

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 >> I think they moved back to September sometime, but they didn't give us a date.

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 >> The concrete still had the wood forms on it, so I knew they weren't ready for it.

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 >> We'll get that updated before we send it back out.

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 >> TXDOT never meets their schedules cuz the contractors don't.

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 All right, so this is your I-35E Mayhill ultimate project.

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 This is a project that will add the 12 lanes for both Mayhill North and 2499 South.

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 We have basically, you're in the process of acquiring the right of way.

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 this project is funded at the $53.4 million.

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 All right, so then this is the Luke 28835 existing brinker project.

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 The good news on this is that they continue to progress and

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 we're looking at mid September for the brinker interchange to be open.

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 The contractor would not agree to a change order to put in a temporary signals.

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 They don't want any more work cuz right now they're paying the state about $7,500 a day.

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 TechStux just sent the agreement yesterday.

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 All right, so everything I just said is right here on the TechStux report.

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 And it is, I'm saying 320, it's like 319 million and some change.

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 This project is at 546 million.

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 They approved it and it included these funds.

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 So this is now officially funded in its entirety.

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 It's gonna be brought to our region in this area.

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 And again, it's got a September 22 let date.

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 A lot of right away to acquire in this corridor.

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 what Hillwood's doing and what the city's got going on in this corridor.

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 We can build any part of it that we want.

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 Okay, and this is your 380 East job, a couple of things.

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 One, it's fully funded.

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 It's just a little under $130 million.

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 Text that wants to expedite the construction of the green section which

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 It's 12 months per year so they have to let those dates and

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 hit those times and those monies.

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 grade separations at major intersections.

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 FM 1515.

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 There could be yield signs, so there is no definite way of assigning traffic in their right of way.

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 But in a roundabout, it's assigned pretty appropriate.

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 >> In essence, is a circle one lane around and a roundabout is two?

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 >> No, it could be multiple lanes.

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 >> Okay, so I grew up in Fort Worth, and on the western part of Fort Worth,

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 we used to call it the Weatherford traffic circle, have you all ever been out there?

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 And to me, a traffic circle is the stuff that European vacation people get stuck on,

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 where it's a big giant.

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 To me, that's in my mind what I call it, but this is a turnaround at the end so

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 the trucks can get back out.

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 At western, there'll be a roundabout for that intersection, and

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 then the rest of it will be a standard six lane facility all the way to 35.

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 >> Question?

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 >> I attended the tech stop meeting on this the other day, and

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 the alignment of the service road, which right now hits kind of at the top of the bridge.

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 If you're coming south, and then you gotta turn and go to the west before you can actually get back on it.

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 >> Correct. >> As I said, when they come in with the project for

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 service roads- >> We'll fix it with that big project with the merge.

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 >> So will it be under the Y project or under the service roads project?

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 >> It'll probably be under the Y project cuz it's north of the railroad track, isn't it?

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 So that's your demarcation, nobody wants to touch that track.

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 >> Yeah, but the service road goes over the top of the track.

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 >> All right, we'll get you there, to that you're on your own.

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 >> Yeah, everybody's fighting over who's gonna have to deal with the railroad track.

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 All right, and then as a part of the 35 project to the north, the larger project,

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 we've made sure that the schematic includes the location of FM 1173 consistent with

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 the city's thoroughfare plan, which is that red alignment.

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 And Garver has now given us additional information on their schedule.

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 We're looking at having an environmental clearance, basically they just got started now.

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 So about 18 months from now, we think we'll get it environmentally cleared, and

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 that's when we can start really pushing on the rest of the schedule.

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 It's not funded, but again, we're doing it under faith-based engineering,

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 because this is a project that TechSite asked us to do.

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 And so you figure they're asking us to move it forward.

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 Once we get it ready to construct, they'll help us find the money.

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 And the reason that dollar amount is so high is there's a lot of drainage

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 associated with this section of 1173 that also has to be dealt with in the job.

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 Okay, so here's your 428 project.

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 We've separated the color coding.

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 This is the work that Preetam and his group is working to make some improvements on

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 the inside of the loop.

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 They're working with TechSite to get a signalized intersection at 288 and 428.

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 And then we're working with TechSite to hire somebody.

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 I think they're saying they'll have it by the end of the year, yes.

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 Have somebody on to analyze 428 as a controlled access facility.

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 So we'll have frontage roads and main lanes.

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 And so we're slowly but surely bringing this project up into the system and

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 getting it reviewed through the regulatory process.

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 And the new one is Bonnie Bray, phase seven.

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 Is that my Roman numeral's right?

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 >> You're right.

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 >> It doesn't have a money sign on it, so I can't do it.

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 And this is the project that this section right here is the section that basically

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 the MPO has told us, or COG has told us that they'll work with TechSite to get

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 this section funded.

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 So the city's done some preliminary engineering.

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 TechSite and the MPO have looked at it.

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 They like the design.

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 And so we're working with TechSite to get this segment funded.

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 And then this is a segment where the COG is working with the city and

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 the county to make improvements for the new high school didn't high.

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 And so we don't really have a schedule yet.

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 We're just not getting started on it, but yeah.

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 >> But why isn't it straighter?

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 >> The green section?

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 >> Yeah. >> There's a creek channel right

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 through there, if I had an aerial, basically all of that is a giant creek.

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 And so we're having to straddle it at the more opportune.

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 Which is why right now it jogs.

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 You come up and then you go up 77 and then you go up because they missed that creek.

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 But with this job, with TechSite and COG funding it,

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 some problems are solved by geometry, others are solved by money.

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 And so this one's just going to be a little bit more expensive.

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 >> That's what we're basically doing.

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 >> So it's like a, is it an environmentally sensitive area?

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 >> Not after we're done with it.

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 >> I'm joking, I don't know.

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 Whatever the environmental regulatory process is, we're going to have to go

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 through that obviously because it's federal dollars.

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 So it'll go through the same, you know, regulatory process as all of them do.

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 So it'll be any, if we do wetlands, we'll have to mitigate.

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 If there's any type of floodplain changes, we'll have to address that through FEMA.

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 So it'll be federally funded.

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 So it's fully regulatorily reviewed.

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 >> So the existing alignment, if you see that little piece that comes down from Bonny Bray,

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 that's the alignment along the creek.

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 So there's more areas in that area.

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 That's why we're getting away from that.

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 The other thing is the spacing.

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 You see there's an interchange with 77.

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 If we align Bonny Bray away from that, we get better spacing along loop 288.

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 So there are a couple factors that we're looking at.

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 The other thing also is loop 288 at that location is dipped and

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 there is an elevated area so that you have a better bridge to go over the loop to it.

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 So there are several things that we had looked at.

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 That's why it's a little bit not straightened out.

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 It's a little bit at an angle.

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 >> Engineers like straighter than get it.

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 So if it's not, there's a reason.

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 And we're also looking at potential for in the future with 428 improvements,

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 making actual frontage roads along 288 in this corridor at some point in the future.

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 And I believe that's it for me.

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 >> That's more for bricks.

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 >> Yes, I have a couple of questions at the Dallas Regional Mobility Committee.

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 We heard two updates and I just wanted to ask here if any of those would affect

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 the city of Denton that Mr. Vaughn was appointed to the Texas Transportation

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 Commission and the 2020 UTP funding proposed funding has been approved or is out.

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 So as we go through all of these updates for any of those affect our projects?

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 >> Yes, ma'am.

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 So the 2020 UTP fully funded the I-35E merge and the north segment.

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 So it was some 800 and almost 900 million dollars is fully funded in the 2020 UTP.

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 And then they also funded the segment in Dallas County from 635 up to

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 the Dallas County line in Denton County.

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 So although it's not in Denton County per se,

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 it impacts Denton County because most of our commuters travel down 35E.

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 But they'll be coming in and adding additional general purpose lanes,

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 all the managed lanes.

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 So there'll be four ultimately in that corridor, and

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 putting all the permanent improvements there it's like 700 million bucks.

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 So Denton County in the surrounding infrastructure

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 fared very well in the 2020 UTP.

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 Because what also was reaffirmed in that were all of our breakout projects.

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 So Mayhills reaffirmed 1171 corporate and 121 business.

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 Those are all close to $300 million worth of improvements that

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 were reaffirmed in the 2020 UTP.

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 The gentleman that was appointed for the Highway Commission,

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 we technically have two representatives from North Texas right now.

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 Cuz Victor Vandergriff is still on the Highway Commission, he hasn't resigned.

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 But in order for the region not to be able to say we don't have any representation

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 on the commission, because Victor's not allowed to go to the Highway Commission

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 anymore, the governor appointed the new guy for the North Texas area.

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 So the next appointment will be for the East Texas region.

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 So we now have a Dallas representative on the Highway Commission.

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 And he seems, he made the motion, I mean this was his first meeting in August.

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 And he made the motion to adopt the UTP that he didn't even know anything about.

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 So it looks like he's gonna jump straight in and start doing stuff.

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 >> Okay. >> So I think he's a good guy.

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 >> Okay, thank you for that update.

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 >> Hey, Preetam, this is something that I know you did a year ago.

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 And I think it might be time to relook at it.

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 Tell me if this is a very burdensome request.

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 But I think it'd be helpful for me and probably for the public to see all

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 the construction that's intended to be simultaneous on a map.

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 But ideally, a sequence, maybe it's two or three.

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 If you line up the dates, right, here's a snapshot of time.

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 Maybe you use yellow for the text out projects and green for the city ones.

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 But here's everything that's gonna be going on.

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 And then the next phase, here's everything that's gonna be going on.

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 I just think it'd be helpful for communication.

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 >> We are currently working on a map like that between all our departments.

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 And Water Wastewater has their own projects as well.

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 So we're trying to match everything and as far as phasing,

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 we do have our plan in the future where in the next couple years this is coming online.

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 And in the next five years this is coming online.

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 So yes, we can definitely bring something like that forward.

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 >> I mentioned you needed it from mobility plan anyway, it just occurred to me.

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 >> There is an update from mobility.

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 >> Well, I do one for each of my counties where you have projects in all the precincts.

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 And there are always times like we have here on 35 where your best laid plans

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 go astray because you gotta chase the funding.

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 And so you have all these projects being built in one heat area.

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 And it goes on for a period of time.

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 And so we've got this 11 by 17 that kinda shows everything in a pictorial view.

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 So we can get it to pretend if he wants to copy it.

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 >> That could help create sort of a narrative of what's the big picture that's happening.

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 >> What we do is we use red for the construction.

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 So that when you look at all these projects overlapping each other,

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 you see this big giant heat map.

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 >> They reflect levels of frustration for drivers by color.

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 Thanks.

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 >> Great, okay.

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 Thank you very much for that update.

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 Let's move on now to item B.

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 Receive a report, hold a discussion, give staff direction about bicycle and

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 pedestrian facilities in Southeast Denton.

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 >> Yeah, this is the hopscotch.

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 >> Do you want to see it or do you want to be surprised?

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 >> Good morning, Mark Oliphant, Bicycle and Pedestrian Coordinator for the city.

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 This morning I'm going to be talking about facilities in the southeast quadrant of Denton,

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 both for bicycles and pedestrians, where we are with built facilities,

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 what our former plans are, and looking ahead as we are currently

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 formulating our mobility plan, what sort of improvements we're looking at with that.

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 So quickly, just to familiarize you with the area,

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 generally we're looking at south of McKinney Street,

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 west of the Elm Locust Corridor, south of, I'm sorry.

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 I went south of McKinney, north of I-35, and on the east May Hill.

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 Yes, here's your, it makes sense, you can see on the map.

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 So that's the general area that we're looking at.

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 Now first off, I'd like to point out, now this area has our crown jewel of bicycle and

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 pedestrian facilities in that the Katy Trail or the A-Train Trail goes through the area,

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 which is a really fantastic, safe, protected facility that we'd love to see more of.

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 And so, that's a, as far as discussing this area of town,

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 that's really something important to point out, that it has this.

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 And it's something that we can grow off of.

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 So, let's look at, here's the city GIS layer that shows bicycle facilities and

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 it shows what's built and what's planned to be built and so forth.

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 We don't have, this is on the street, so we don't have the A-Train Trail highlighted.

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 But you can see, so up in the downtown area, we do have some different things.

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 We do have some segments of bike lane, sharos, and

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 then as we get further from the downtown area, there's not as much.

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 And we have planned but not funded facilities,

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 you'll see those dashed lines, planned but not funded.

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 We do have on Moores and on Shady Oaks some shared roadway signage,

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 which is something, it's not the very best, but it is something.

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 And I think we can use this as a stepping stone to even better facilities as we

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 look ahead with the mobility plan and so forth.

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 Also over here is the Mayhill, which was a funded bicycle route and

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 is essentially finished.

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 There has been some discussion lately, Mayhill is beautiful.

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 We have this nice wide path next to the roadway.

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 But getting to and from Mayhill is an issue.

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 And that's something that we're aware of and that we are looking into.

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 Next one here, this is from the actual plan map from

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 an adopted bicycle plan five years ago and what that was looking at building.

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 One important thing to see on here is if you'll look at these dotted green lines.

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 Those are in the stream valley for Pecan Creek, I believe it's called.

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 And that's something that as part of the mobility plan,

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 we are making an extra effort to rope the Parks and

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 Recreation Department into our comprehensive planning for non-motorized travel.

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 Because for cyclists, pedestrians, they don't care whether the asset is provided

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 by the transportation department as part of the roadway network or

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 it's a park facility or something like that.

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 And we're seeing a lot of opportunities to build off of that.

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 Another thing I mentioned is possibilities for

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 using the rail trail, the KD train or

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 a train rail trail as a spine network so

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 that we can build off of that with road crossings.

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 Council of Governments, they also keep their own map,

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 which ideally is synced with ours, although timing doesn't always work out with that.

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 But they also have some similar aspirations.

464
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,640
 You'll notice a lot of the detail in that area of town is the dashed lines,

465
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,360
 or dotted, which are planned but not yet funded.

466
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,760
 But all of these, just because they are on that regional plan,

467
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:55,520
 they are eligible for funding through the Council of Governments by getting them on their map.

468
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:01,760
 We then have a leg up in getting funding assistance for those.

469
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,400
 Finally, I'm going to talk about what's going on currently with the mobility plan.

470
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,960
 Well, you'll get a full update, but recently we've done some outreach,

471
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,680
 some public meetings, things like that.

472
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:21,560
 And on the right here is just a photograph, a screen capture of a poster board that we had.

473
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,240
 And we invited all the participants of these public meetings to come and mark up.

474
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:33,440
 On the bottom is a legend, red, barriers or stressful routes.

475
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,960
 Blue, desired routes or destinations, now those two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

476
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:50,480
 But you can just see how it fleshed out in that connections to 35 and across 35 are important.

477
00:34:50,480 --> 00:35:00,840
 Connections to the rail trail facility were important.

478
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,160
 Between the dotted and the solid, there's no difference.

479
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:11,640
 It was just different people filling that in with their markers. The star there is downtown, just to orient yourself.

480
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:18,360
 So there's a lot of interest in McKinney, but it's seen as a barrier and a stressful route.

481
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:26,640
 This Woodrow corridor, as far as North-South travel, being able to get along 288.

482
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:34,600
 From my perspective, I'd like to keep bicycles off of 288 and use a parallel route, you know.

483
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,880
 So that's where Mayhill comes in for being useful.

484
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:46,200
 And if I don't know what's going to happen, I know that this area is slated for some future development.

485
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:54,160
 And that is something that we need to keep our eyes on is finding connections within that area inside of the loop.

486
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,120
 That's, I mean, a lot of it's just open land right now.

487
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,080
 But so this is the good feedback that we got from people.

488
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,640
 And it's fairly consistent with what we're seeing in our plans.

489
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,080
 I will say I just checked in with our consultant we're working with on the mobility plan.

490
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:22,720
 And one of the things that we want to do is in our past plans, I'm going to pull up.

491
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:31,040
 In our past plans, we've been using a lot of the shared lane where bicycles and cars are intermingled,

492
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:42,400
 shared lane with parking, wide curb lane or urban shoulder where bicycles don't have a delineated designated space.

493
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,960
 And there's confusion there.

494
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,960
 I mean, I think it is a step in the right direction and it has been a good step.

495
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:56,280
 But in talking with our consultants and so forth, we really want to we want to move this up to the next level of comfort.

496
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:08,280
 Going to actual bike lanes or actual barrier bike lanes, protected bike lanes by barriers.

497
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,040
 Also, we have a lot of these shoulder bike lanes through town, which are bike lanes,

498
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:22,600
 but not bike lanes because people are allowed to park in them, which is it's it can be confusing and difficult.

499
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,000
 You know, if a road has sparse enough parking, then maybe people can get around it.

500
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,840
 And it is a gesture towards inclusion of cycling as a mode.

501
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,600
 But we want we want to get away from that in there.

502
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,480
 So some of the things that they're thinking are looking at a side path on Woodrow.

503
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:55,680
 Now, this is all draft thoughts, you know, as part of the plan that trail along the concrete could really be a great connector parallel really to the to the rail trail on McKinney bicycle lanes.

504
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,600
 But buffered separated something like that.

505
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:04,040
 There are widening plans for the eastern parts of McKinney there.

506
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,280
 And Spencer also Spencer has an opportunity.

507
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:16,240
 It's two lanes in each direction currently, but maybe maybe it goes to one in each direction with a center median turn lane or something like that.

508
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,200
 And that would allow some room for bicycle lanes.

509
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,880
 So that's that's just some of the things.

510
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,720
 And this is still very much in the draft, the brainstorm stage and so forth.

511
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,800
 But just some of the things that we are looking towards with that question.

512
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:48,200
 I'm glad to hear you say that, because the one thing that I've heard from the bicycle community and even those who aren't necessarily in the community, but you ride bicycles around town or those who don't and would like to is that they don't feel safe.

513
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:55,120
 And having something protected would encourage them to ride bicycles more.

514
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,560
 So I'm glad to hear the consultants bringing back the suggestions.

515
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:05,400
 I feel like anything going forward if we do implement would need to be somewhat protected.

516
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:12,440
 If not, we're not really solving any problems in the past.

517
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,920
 And so I just want to show you quickly a demonstration of this is on Morse.

518
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,440
 Morse is actually a nice east, west street.

519
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:29,520
 And I've used a fair bit on on my bicycle and does have these wide lanes, you know, fairly low traffic volume.

520
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,440
 Whoops, there we go.

521
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:40,760
 But all we have right now are these signs encouraging people to share the world, to be aware of cyclists.

522
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:55,080
 But if we could increase the level of protection, put some more pain out there, maybe some barriers, things like that, it would really make it a much more comfortable bicycle facility.

523
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,520
 So that's generally where we are and where we're going, the direction.

524
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,560
 I hope I met the intent of your question on the topic.

525
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,760
 Yeah, you actually know it's going to result in a presentation.

526
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:14,600
 Oh, I appreciate your sensitivity to the to the fact that it didn't look like there was a whole lot there.

527
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:22,080
 And I appreciate the thought that, you know, that it's going into it now.

528
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,120
 Other questions or comments?

529
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,760
 That's one of the bricks.

530
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,880
 So is there a I'm at a lot, but I drive there and so I'm not the right center.

531
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:45,280
 Yes. Yes. Is there a a safe bike plan now from downtown to that center or from?

532
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,800
 I know that the school's right next to it, but but I'm just wondering if there is a any.

533
00:40:51,800 --> 00:41:00,320
 Safe bicycle route path to the center currently from in the area.

534
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:07,520
 I. I don't think from like from the courthouse to the rec center,

535
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:19,280
 I don't think you have bike infrastructure the whole way, but I would recommend.

536
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,120
 John Hickory there. Yeah, you go behind the police station.

537
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,960
 Yeah, I can pull up the map.

538
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,920
 So and it may be just something for a different, you know, for the mobility discussion.

539
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:39,120
 It's just that I know that lots of kids in the neighborhood from all around walk there to to play,

540
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:47,440
 you know, basketball or after school to use that facility for several things and either walk or bike.

541
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:54,240
 And so. It just this presentation just made me start thinking,

542
00:41:54,240 --> 00:42:00,720
 well, is there anything safe right now, a route that we could recommend or.

543
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:05,280
 Have them use. Yeah, I have gone that way and done that.

544
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,360
 My recommendation would be Hickory.

545
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:14,560
 You do have protected lanes back over here and then it gets fairly quiet behind

546
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,240
 between the police department and the downtown transit center gets quieter.

547
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:26,160
 And you can make the right here just before the court and go straight into it.

548
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,240
 You don't have a protected land along here, though, not currently.

549
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:35,440
 But but that is one thing that we are absolutely looking at as part of the mobility plan is

550
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,720
 what are the nodes that people are trying to get to and from elementary schools, rec centers,

551
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:46,640
 downtown transit center and how do we connect those? OK, thank you.

552
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,320
 He mentioned that there are certain routes that are planned or sort of on the map for Cog and make.

553
00:42:52,320 --> 00:43:02,640
 Yeah, make them eligible for funding. So what's the process for getting the funding?

554
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:10,640
 So typically, so for funding by bicycle, I don't know if you heard the side comment that we wrapped up all those points for all those great.

555
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:24,720
 Projects. Correct. So there are a couple different things that points that we're racking up would be good match from the city side for some of these infrastructure projects for the upcoming bond election.

556
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:39,520
 That's that's our plan. Since it's early on, we're already starting that conversation with Cog, saying if if we get the bond passed and if there is interest in funding, some of those are match would be the points that we racked up.

557
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:55,200
 As far as the bicycle infrastructure every year, every couple of years, depending on the frequency, they cog typically issues what is called set aside that is active transportation dollars for bicycle and pedestrian facilities.

558
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:04,320
 So it's multi-use trails. We've done one trail in the city on the north side by North Lakes Park and I'm sorry, by the Evers Park.

559
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:13,840
 It connects Evers Park and North Nikosha along Nikosha. We've already done that. Currently we have two projects that are funded through to set aside monies.

560
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:24,960
 One is the multi-use trail on sick more that connects the train station all the way to and then there is another one.

561
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:41,440
 It's the other one. I forget the other one was one more to set aside. But what would happen is once we move forward to design and construction of the current funding that we have for the projects, then we can apply for another one, another grant.

562
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:49,560
 So every year we're trying what projects we can move forward. I think there is a little lag right now because we're going through our mobility plan update.

563
00:44:49,560 --> 00:45:01,520
 Once we have a solid plan, then next year we can definitely go and go ahead and say, hey, this is part of our plan and this is what we need funding, we really see a need in this area.

564
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:09,320
 I think it was CMAC, the other one, isn't it? CMAC program, I think, you know, federal funding program.

565
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480
 Thank you. Anything else?

566
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:18,000
 Well, since you brought it up, what is the status of the sick more multi-use path?

567
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120
 We're still waiting on text out to kickstart the project.

568
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:29,600
 So I did have a phone call with them last week. The ball is in their court to give us the notice to proceed.

569
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:36,880
 They have received the the green light from FHWA that we were waiting for.

570
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,440
 So that has gone to them. And I did had a phone call with them last week.

571
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:48,000
 And it's just a matter of we can ping again, but it is up to them to contact us and say you're ready.

572
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,040
 OK. I just want to make sure that we didn't end up in a situation where we're getting close to the funds expiring.

573
00:45:54,040 --> 00:46:02,120
 No, no, we're working with COG. We every TIP mod that comes up, I think it's quarterly, we are in touch with them.

574
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:08,560
 We update our schedule based on what's happening with text out and the way they're managing this project.

575
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,360
 The issue with this particular project is all the dollars are federal dollars.

576
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:18,360
 That means we can't really kickstart any of the design or anything without approval else.

577
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:24,920
 We won't get our reimbursements. We won't get the money reimbursed through the federal dollars.

578
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,480
 That's my breaks. Just a question.

579
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:36,560
 Why you had the map that the COG bicycle and it's not necessarily in this area, but I just I really wasn't aware of that map.

580
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,960
 So I'm wondering if Mingo is on that.

581
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,160
 Is this do they consider that a I can follow the link?

582
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,120
 Well, you can just get I was just curious. I can follow the link myself.

583
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,280
 And look, I didn't I just wanted to ask if you knew.

584
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:59,960
 Thank you. I believe it is OK.

585
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:07,960
 And thank you for showing us that map. I hadn't seen it before.

586
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:30,800
 Here it comes.

587
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,960
 Well, there you go. You have the green.

588
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:44,520
 OK, so regional velo web, that's actually a very high priority, important infrastructure there.

589
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,640
 And it's part of the velo web. Off Street planned as well.

590
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,960
 So that would be a side path, not on the street, but next to it.

591
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,040
 It's a high priority for twenty forty five.

592
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:04,120
 It'll come sooner than we know. Thank you for checking.

593
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:19,480
 I think what happens is if it's on the cog velo web, that gives us higher points when we go for some of the federal dollars saying that this is a regional connection for active transportation, not just a local little bike trail.

594
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,920
 So that would definitely put us in a better shape if we ask for funding.

595
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:31,000
 Great. Thank you very much. Close that item then.

596
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:39,880
 And I just noticed, I think what you're trying to point out to me before, John, that it was not only are we not sketching around, but it was originally listed a C B.

597
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,920
 So I think we're successfully eluding anybody trying to follow us.

598
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:52,640
 And let's let's move on to the second item, which we're covering fourth, which is item C.

599
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,640
 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding updates from D.C.T.A.

600
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,720
 Absolutely. Please. Thank you for coming.

601
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:05,240
 I make sure your mic is on the little yes.

602
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:06,840
 All right. Thank you.

603
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:12,000
 My name is Michelle Boomer, and I'm the vice president of operations for the Ditton County Transportation Authority.

604
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,320
 So I oversee all the rail and bus service.

605
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,120
 So a really quick update today, I just wanted to give you a heads up.

606
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,160
 You're probably aware we've had some changes on our board.

607
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,640
 Our board is now one hundred percent seated seated.

608
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,160
 The representative is Mayor Chris Watts, the council member.

609
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:37,080
 Excuse me. Yeah. This little signal means that your voice isn't going right into the mic.

610
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,160
 So is the green light on? Yeah, John, you want to be tech support?

611
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,880
 Oh, that was on. Sorry. OK.

612
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:53,800
 For Louisville, council member T.J. Gilmore is the representative and Claire Powell is the alternate alternate.

613
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,560
 Diane Costas is from Highland Village. She is also the chair of the committee.

614
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,960
 And at large, we have Sam Burke and Paul Christina.

615
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:08,120
 Oops. Sorry. Randall Christman, Paul Christina and Shannon Joskey are the two alternates for Denton County.

616
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,680
 At the next board meeting, which is on the 26th, they'll be reviewing the bylaws.

617
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:17,200
 We'll need to change the DCTA bylaws in order to accommodate the new board structure.

618
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,520
 And we'll also be asking the board to approve our twenty twenty budget.

619
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:36,000
 One of the items that was added to the budget at the last meeting was the seventy seven thousand dollar request from the city of Denton to provide shuttle service from senior King Outreach Center to our daily bread, starting in the beginning of January twenty twenty.

620
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:44,280
 Just want to let you know that at your meeting next Tuesday, our CEO Raymond Suarez will be providing a presentation.

621
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:51,280
 Just want to make you aware of that. So if there's any questions I can't answer, I'll give him a heads up and he'll be able to answer them then.

622
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:59,680
 We just went through August service changes. So was it two Mondays? Two Mondays ago, August 26th, we implemented some service changes.

623
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:13,840
 Those main changes were around the train. And so we added midday service on the train, went to 30 minute headways or consistent service every 30 minutes, except for a one hour period in the middle of the day due to shift change.

624
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:19,440
 We just could not accommodate that 30 minutes throughout the entire day.

625
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:29,640
 And then we had to adjust the schedule to allow for implementation of positive train control and a positive train controller. PTC is a federal required safety mandate.

626
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,920
 And so we're currently operating trains in what we call revenue service demonstration.

627
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,720
 So we're testing PTC to make sure that it works and then we'll go 100 percent live.

628
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:48,360
 And then as a result of those changes to the train schedule, we obviously had to change some of the bus schedules in order to make sure that we could still meet the train.

629
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:58,440
 And so there were changes to the Denton Connect, Lewisville Connect, Thailand Village, as well as the UNT routes that pulls off of one of the train stations.

630
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:11,320
 Some other things we're working on. There were two locations identified in the trail safety study, as well as the recent FRA Federal Railroad Administration audit at Colorado and Brinker at those two railroad crossings.

631
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,840
 I did want to thank the city. It's a joint partnership between the city and DCTA.

632
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:22,640
 The city is taking care of the striping and the signage and DCTA is taking care of the curb cuts at that location.

633
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,160
 And so with that cooperation, we'll get that done a little bit quicker.

634
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:32,120
 And then coming up on the horizon is the 2020 service changes.

635
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:48,360
 I'm not sure how much you're aware of DCTA has issued a request for proposals for mobility as a service or what's called MAS services to have a bunch of mobility as a service providers in our two blocks that we can use.

636
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:56,800
 And so we're looking at how do we incorporate mobility as a service into our existing service or more transition from a traditional fixed route system,

637
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:06,800
 which is what we currently have in Denton, Louisville and Highland Village to something that incorporates a hybrid of fixed route where you have that density and we can increase the frequency.

638
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:15,320
 And then on those outskirts of the area that we don't currently serve or we currently serve, but at not very high densities, could we implement mobility on demand service?

639
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:24,720
 And so we're working with HDR consulting company to help us look at all of that through our entire service area and determine how best to implement that.

640
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:28,080
 It will most likely be a phased approach.

641
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:34,000
 We when we implemented that didn't enterprise airport zone, it was to a new area that wasn't previously served.

642
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,600
 So the transition was a little different when we did it in Louisville.

643
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,680
 It was the Louisville Lakeway zone replaced a portion of an existing fixed route.

644
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:51,120
 And so there was a little bit of transition for those individuals that were using the fixed route system to learn how to use the on demand system.

645
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:59,920
 And so we wouldn't want to go 100% on demand in Denton or Louisville all at one time because that would be a lot of change for folks.

646
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,000
 And we're still trying to figure out how we get over that.

647
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,200
 If you have a fixed route, you just stand at the stop and eventually a bus will come by.

648
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,600
 But on on demand, you can stand at a stop.

649
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:15,040
 And unless you call either DCTA to request the trip or you do it via the app, the bus will never come.

650
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:20,800
 So we're trying to figure out how we can overcome that so we don't have individuals standing at the stop waiting for a bus.

651
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:29,600
 And so we're looking to implement that service and combining that with what Raymond is calling our our first year was the year of change.

652
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,720
 And we joke we didn't realize how much change we would see.

653
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,400
 But the second year is the year of transition.

654
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:46,040
 And we'll be bringing in some consultants to assist DCTA in figuring out how we can work better, basically how we can work smarter, not harder.

655
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:54,880
 And we'll work with those transition consultants as well as HGR to determine how best to implement that new hybrid service going forward.

656
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,800
 Excuse me. Just had a thought.

657
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,480
 This might be technologically impossible or challenging.

658
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,360
 But I wonder if there might be something like a call button at the stop.

659
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,560
 That is one of the things we're looking at.

660
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,600
 The question becomes is how many because right now we have over five hundred stops.

661
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,520
 And can we can we put call buttons at every stop?

662
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,960
 And then if we put one, our people just going to be pressing it and not really so.

663
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,680
 But it is one of the options we're looking at.

664
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,480
 And that's a testable proposition to see if they abuse it.

665
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:33,040
 Yeah. And one of the question on that years ago, you had a program called Dial-A-Ride.

666
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,720
 Yes. When you pull out of neighborhoods and went to the main.

667
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:42,800
 This was up on university for people who were would have to cross a major thoroughfare like university.

668
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,200
 They could call in and a car would come pick them up and drop them off at the bus stop.

669
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,480
 Is that something that you all are that's similar to what we're looking at?

670
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:58,520
 So just off the top of my head, you know, we we might want to run fixed routes down east, west, north, south.

671
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:10,720
 But then from there have zones and then within that zones like neighborhood zones that we would take you to the closest fixed route stop or just take you directly to that location depending on where it was.

672
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:19,960
 And so that's really what we're working with the consultants to determine is what's the best way to overlay the on demand service on top of fixed route.

673
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:26,480
 So when you say overlay, in other words, it would necessarily replace it would be a supplement.

674
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:35,360
 Correct. I think it makes it wouldn't make sense to completely take away fixed route because we have some routes seven, eight, five, six that have very high ridership.

675
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:46,880
 And if you were to try to transition all those trips onto a smaller vehicle, we would need a lot more vehicles and so trying to find the most efficient way to serve the most people.

676
00:56:46,880 --> 00:57:00,360
 And so if you have those routes that you know are sort of your spines, it's best to run fixed route down those and then you can increase the frequency because right now our frequency is 30 minutes during peak in 30 minutes or 60 minutes and off peak.

677
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:08,880
 If we can get that down to say 15, 20 minutes, that's more attractive to folks and then we can get you certain, you know, to a certain point.

678
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,160
 And then from there you would on demand to your direct location.

679
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,920
 What is the average weight now?

680
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,520
 Is that something that that you know?

681
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:26,080
 I mean, I understand the frequency, but in terms of rider behavior, what is the average weight they experience on the fixed routes?

682
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,360
 It's really based on the frequency.

683
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:41,640
 So, I mean, if I know the bus comes every hour on the hour or every hour and then 30 minutes, it just depends if I we recommend people get to the stop at a minimum of five minutes before the bus is scheduled to be there.

684
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:48,840
 So they would be waiting five minutes and what would the typical wait time be for mobility as a service?

685
00:57:48,840 --> 00:58:03,680
 We currently in didn't airport zone, I don't believe the weights more than 10 minutes and then in Lewisville, we currently have it set if it goes over 15, we send another vehicle out, but we constantly monitor it to see where we are.

686
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,040
 And most times it's not more than five to five to seven minutes.

687
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,800
 So would the goal be to sort of engineer it to be comparable to what the current wait time is?

688
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,800
 We'll have to see how many vehicles that requires.

689
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,120
 I'm imagining somewhere between a 10 and a 15 minute wait.

690
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,600
 We're also looking at options.

691
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:41,200
 When we did Lewisville, we looked at an option with lift where if the weight was longer than X amount of time and you can set whatever amount of time that is, you can say if it's more than 10 minutes or more than 20 minutes or more than 30 minutes, that trip would automatically push to lift and they would they would respond.

692
00:58:41,200 --> 00:59:04,760
 So that's part of the issue that we'll be working through with the consultants is we're providing them with all of our ridership information, origins, destinations, time of day, loads and then trying to figure out, okay, based on that, if we were to go to a on demand service instead of the X number of big buses, we have how many smaller buses would we need and what would that cost?

693
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:15,320
 I'd certainly be interested to know what sort of what the system engineering would result in if it were designed to create more convenience, not just less cost.

694
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,960
 Okay.

695
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,480
 And what we'll probably have the consultants do is work up multiple scenarios.

696
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:34,720
 You know, if it's a 20 minute wait, this is how many vehicles it would be and this would be the cost if it was a 15 minute, et cetera, and then take that to the board and allow the board to make that decision is where do they want to balance?

697
00:59:34,720 --> 01:00:01,000
 Convenience or wait time with cost, but yeah, obviously it's a trade off and I notice you didn't mention routes one, two and three with the vision, you know, that you anticipate being overlaid there as well or or you're looking at a different approach, potentially taking portions of those routes away and putting on demand in place of it.

698
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:08,840
 And so they're sort of fixed route hybrid and then places where they'll just be on demand service.

699
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:21,440
 There won't be any fixed route service that would certainly increase my interest in increasing the convenience before you make it for you reduce the convenience of mass transit.

700
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:27,120
 One of the other things that on demand service will allow us to do is expand beyond our existing service areas.

701
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:41,000
 So there are portions of the city of Denton that are currently not served and by doing on demand that allow us to serve a larger portion of that instead of sending a fixed route vehicle out.

702
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:47,200
 Other questions? Actually, I sort of paused you for questions, you might have had more to share.

703
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,880
 I was done. We're good.

704
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,920
 Thank you very much for coming in and updating us.

705
01:00:52,920 --> 01:01:00,280
 Thank you. OK, are we in the hopscotch game now?

706
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:07,120
 So, all right, we're ready now to move to item D, which we're taking up fifth.

707
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:19,400
 Receive a report and hold the discussion regarding the city of Denton mobility plan work completed in future task items.

708
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:25,080
 Good morning, everyone. I'm Ella Mutul, traffic engineer with the city.

709
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:32,720
 So I'm here today to share what has been accomplished so far and where we're headed with the mobility plan.

710
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:40,600
 So from the last meeting, we did update the survey to rephrase some of the questions based on your feedback.

711
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:47,480
 So we did do that. We held a third public meeting on August 22nd, further south of the city.

712
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:52,440
 It was a great turnout. We had about 50 attendees.

713
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,520
 The consultant has developed the draft maps for the thoroughfare, the bike and the pedestrian.

714
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,240
 We had a staff initial review.

715
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:16,040
 So the engineering transportation engineering division had a one on one with consultants to have an initial look at the maps on this previous Wednesday.

716
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,960
 And I wanted to share preliminary preliminary survey results.

717
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,800
 As of August 29th, we had two hundred and twenty one surveys.

718
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:32,840
 I just put a screenshot of some of the questions and answers what I thought were interesting.

719
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,560
 So the first question is, how often do you travel by?

720
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:44,520
 And there's several options. Vehicle, walking, bicycle, of course, the primary answer for.

721
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,760
 The three or more times per week is vehicle.

722
01:02:48,760 --> 01:03:00,400
 What I found interesting was, well, unfortunately, the public transportation was the top option for never.

723
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:07,000
 So I think we can definitely improve on that as a city wide.

724
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:12,440
 Question eight, please indicate how much you agree or disagree with the following statements.

725
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:23,440
 The first question is, I would use my vehicle less if taking the bus, walking or biking became more convenient and, of course, just interject to come in.

726
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,680
 Yes. Just imagining a possible future.

727
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:34,520
 If I knew the bus stop right outside my house, if I knew I could hit a call button and get a ride within five minutes, I'd probably take it.

728
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:42,920
 Right. I know it would be great. No pressure.

729
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,240
 So strongly agree if it became more convenient.

730
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:55,040
 Question number five was, how often do you use technology to plan your daily trips like Waze, GPS, go pass?

731
01:03:55,040 --> 01:04:02,440
 And I was pleasantly surprised that forty percent said all of the time, thirty five percent every now and then.

732
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:13,360
 So it's great that we're really using Waze and we're pushing all this technology to be used online as the citizens commute around the city.

733
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,000
 So how would you describe the quality of the current roadway system in Denton?

734
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:30,960
 The top two responses was existing roads need to be better maintained and congested roads need to be widened.

735
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,480
 What are the things that prevent you from bicycling and did you want to say pretense?

736
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,520
 Oh, I was wondering if that was like a half a response on everything is fine.

737
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,600
 The little green line on that. Everything.

738
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:51,960
 This is also only two hundred. We're expecting more responses.

739
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:59,560
 It's kind of interesting. Like, it's it should we interpret when we see that it's below 50 percent say congested roadways need to be widened.

740
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,480
 Does that mean a majority did not feel congested roadways need to be widened?

741
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,800
 You kind of have to look at it overall because you were able to select all that you felt.

742
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:16,480
 You were able to select each one if you wanted to. So it's just overall ratio.

743
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,120
 Clearly, existing roads need to be better maintained.

744
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,240
 Yeah, and we're working on it. We're working on it very hard.

745
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,120
 Which means we need more construction. That's what I heard from that.

746
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:33,000
 I thought you might hear that or traffic control plans. Yes.

747
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,600
 I should give two seconds for reactions.

748
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,680
 What are the things that prevent you from bicycling and Denton?

749
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:51,360
 And it was the main two were not enough bikeways and bikeways do not feel safe or comfortable, which kind of really marks message earlier.

750
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,440
 What are the things that prevent you from walking in Denton?

751
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,280
 This one had kind of three that stood out.

752
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,200
 Sidewalks are not connected.

753
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:05,120
 Destinations are too far and sidewalks are in poor condition.

754
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:10,680
 And the fourth one was weather, but yeah, we have no say in weather.

755
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,880
 If you had to focus somewhere, it would be sidewalks are not connected, right?

756
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,080
 Right. And that's moving the destinations closer to each other.

757
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:26,960
 Yes, connectivity. And we're definitely looking at that and figuring out where all the gaps are and prioritizing them.

758
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:34,200
 Which improvements would you make? Which improvements would make you more likely to walk around the city?

759
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:47,960
 And the top three, which we are definitely aware of and working towards is better lighting, more sidewalks, better connectivity, more landscaping, including trees for shade.

760
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,600
 And where are we headed?

761
01:06:50,600 --> 01:07:07,760
 So the plan is to do a final push and send, I guess, an advertisement in the utility bill to have all the residents go out there, take the survey that will be sent out soon, I believe this week or next week.

762
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:15,320
 And we will be closing the survey early October, so it'll be open the rest of the month.

763
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:23,200
 And we are, as I mentioned, we are reviewing the draft maps.

764
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:28,200
 We already did the internal one and then we will have the technical stakeholders.

765
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:36,360
 We have a meeting set this Thursday, so we'll be presenting that map to them and asking for feedback.

766
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:57,760
 We are looking, excuse me, the consultant is working on the model, they're going to be looking at one way versus two way, the general concept of the city as a whole and seeing how the change would impact mobility near it and as a region as a whole.

767
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:12,160
 Another thing they're looking at as part of the mobility plan is TWU has requested us to look at a potential Bell Avenue closure from Chapel to college.

768
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:18,920
 So they're looking at that option, how it's going to affect adjacent north-south connectivity.

769
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,560
 >> I'm sorry, who's requesting we look at Bell Avenue?

770
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,280
 >> TWU.

771
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,040
 >> Oh, okay.

772
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,080
 >> Yes, the university.

773
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,080
 >> Council hasn't asked for that.

774
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,840
 >> Yes.

775
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,640
 >> I don't recall us, we haven't had a vote on that or anything.

776
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,640
 >> No.

777
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:46,680
 >> You mentioned on the survey putting it out in the utility bills, are we able to get a email list from the utility company for those that are on paper lists and/or auto pay that do not open up a utility bill?

778
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,560
 >> That's a good question.

779
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:54,920
 I know we do have email groups, but I don't think it's related to the utility bills.

780
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,000
 >> We'll definitely work with the public information office.

781
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:08,840
 I think they have good contact for most of the, and then we can also work with customer service where they actually have information of who is paying what way.

782
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:14,720
 Are they receiving the bill?

783
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,960
 >> Was the light coming on?

784
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:23,520
 Okay, well, and I just say that because I'm paperless, I'm on auto pay, I don't remember the last time I've opened up a utility bill.

785
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:29,600
 So it's, yeah, if it's opened, it's opened a couple months later to put it into QuickBooks, and that's it.

786
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:38,160
 >> Yes, Stephanie mentioned there's, in the list, there's 55,000, so yes, it's a portion of all residents.

787
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,920
 And all of this, basically, all the analysis, we're refining the maps.

788
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:54,560
 And we will be presenting the analysis for the one-way bell and the draft maps to council at a workshop on October 24th.

789
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,560
 I believe they're aware of it.

790
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,880
 >> To come forward, yes.

791
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:07,720
 >> Yes. >> We're at least planning at this point that October 24th we'll have some bases of discussing one-way versus two-way.

792
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,800
 And some of the other layout, big picture layouts of the map.

793
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:17,720
 One of the things that will be looked at is also capacity requirements on Carol.

794
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:24,160
 I think there are a couple of items on the matrix that talk about can we do road diet on Carol and then one-way, two-way.

795
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:29,520
 So both those items will be covered as part of that work session item in October.

796
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:30,920
 >> Councilmember Briggs.

797
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:38,240
 >> Yeah, just to, while we're on this item, I'm sure you guys are aware that the mobility plan update was a council priority that we discussed.

798
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:47,040
 So I didn't know if this was going to, if that affects the timeline at all or if it's pretty much the same or if it kind of expedites it.

799
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,160
 >> So, we are planning on getting substantial at the end of this year, right?

800
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:53,680
 The mobility plan?

801
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,320
 >> A draft.

802
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,480
 >> The draft mobility plan.

803
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:58,160
 Yeah, we're planning on drafting it by the end of the year.

804
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:05,160
 And originally we had a 12-month timeline on it and we kicked out the project at the end of May.

805
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:11,080
 So it was supposed to go on to next May but we have understood that it is a priority.

806
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,840
 So we've asked the consultant to cut down the time and they're wrapping up the first draft by end of the year.

807
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:22,720
 Of course, it'll go back to public hearings and council early next year as well but we want to make sure that we have a draft ready.

808
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,320
 And we're pushing the consultant as soon as we can.

809
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:26,880
 >> Thank you.

810
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,400
 >> As fast as we can.

811
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:38,160
 >> On the one-way, two-way thing, it might make sense to look at it kind of in a multidisciplinary way with economic development.

812
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:53,800
 Because I hear persistently, particularly from one member of the public, but citing supposedly many studies that there's a mobility aspect and there's also a kind of what promotes commerce aspect.

813
01:11:53,800 --> 01:12:01,800
 So that might affect, you know, which you wait, how might affect where you would consider one-way, two-way.

814
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:02,200
 >> Correct.

815
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:09,760
 So the way we're going to present the one-way, two-way concept is, yes, we're going to look at the mobility aspect of it.

816
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:18,480
 But on the same side, we're going to look at, you know, two-way streets and more exposure as far as traffic or even the parking components.

817
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:26,640
 So they're going to look at pros and cons, both mobility-wise as well as economic-wise as far as businesses.

818
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:27,520
 >> Council Member Briggs.

819
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,200
 >> In the mobility, I assume it will, you'll discuss speeding?

820
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,160
 >> Correct.

821
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:43,640
 >> Because, like, Locust or Elm, I sit inside a building and I look out and people, it feels like they're going like 50 miles an hour down the street because it's the one-way.

822
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,640
 So I don't know if you have two-way, if that discourages any type of-

823
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:54,680
 >> Yeah, I mean, two-way, we can definitely see that opposing traffic will have that effect and reduce the speeds.

824
01:12:54,680 --> 01:13:00,880
 We'll look at all the options that are coming online for Locust and Elm as well as Hickory now.

825
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,760
 So it's overall, throughout the city, it's one-way versus two-way.

826
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:05,240
 >> Oh, okay.

827
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,480
 So just an overall concept?

828
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:07,640
 >> Overall concept.

829
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,360
 >> Gotcha.

830
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,760
 >> What happens?

831
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:10,480
 >> Okay, thank you.

832
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:17,320
 >> When I did a ride along with the police for an evening shift, there's a spot along a one-way street.

833
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:25,320
 I won't divulge his spot where, you know, we were able to place bets on how brief a time it would take for him to catch a speeder.

834
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,760
 So those one-ways are a good revenue generator, one way to look at it.

835
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,160
 >> So that's the economic side?

836
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,160
 >> Yeah, yeah, so there's that aspect.

837
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:43,120
 While we have our representation from DCTA, how does mass transit fit into the mobility plan?

838
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,040
 Is that part of the picture?

839
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:55,120
 >> It is, I mean, primarily it's more on the lines of accessibility for access to a location.

840
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,360
 If it's one way, you have to go around the block.

841
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,080
 Two-way, it's direct access.

842
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:09,520
 But at the same time, if we're reducing, if we're going from one-way to two-way, the available widths and the intersections, it becomes narrow for buses to maneuver.

843
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:17,160
 So there are a couple aspects to it, and yeah, definitely DCTA will be,

844
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:22,920
 once we decide or once council gives us a go and no go on one-way versus two-way,

845
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:27,240
 we'll get them in the room and, I mean, help them plan their routes.

846
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:34,440
 >> And then I also wonder if you want to comment on how our vision for

847
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,720
 accessibility for disabled people fits into mobility planning?

848
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:54,360
 >> Okay, so the question was, how does accessibility for the disabled fit into the mobility?

849
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,440
 >> Yeah, or vision for achieving accessibility?

850
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:03,120
 >> Yeah, well, we have two aspects of that.

851
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,640
 So the ADA transition plan, which the city has been working on.

852
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:16,080
 We, just this past week, got all of the draft delivered to us for our review.

853
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,760
 We are going to be going over it with the committee on persons with disabilities next week.

854
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,600
 I think that's Thursday the 19th next week.

855
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:29,120
 And yes, we're including ADA and

856
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:34,000
 accessibility really under the pedestrian component of the mobility plan.

857
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:38,120
 But it's absolutely there, and yeah.

858
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,440
 >> So moving forward, all our facilities are ADA compliant.

859
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:47,120
 It's just getting everything that was before an older infrastructure in compliance.

860
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:53,040
 And that's part of what the ADA transition plan is going to do is identify the infrastructure and

861
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,160
 plan it out in the next 15, 20, 30 years, depending on the funding.

862
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:01,980
 How do we go about fixing what's existing that's not compliant?

863
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:04,320
 >> Thank you, any other questions?

864
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,520
 Okay, that's no.

865
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,120
 Thank you.

866
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,160
 >> All right, thank you.

867
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,800
 >> So we can move on to item F, staff reports.

868
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,440
 >> Okay, so.

869
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:23,120
 All right, let me start with the matrix.

870
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,240
 I can pull it up there but.

871
01:16:53,120 --> 01:17:09,360
 >> So I'll start with the first one, a quick update on that.

872
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:14,600
 We are having our contractor on board, supposed to start either this week or

873
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,080
 next week, in the next couple weeks, for that signal,

874
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:24,920
 replacing the signal at Oak and Jago, and then Oak and Fry.

875
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:29,360
 So those are the two signals, which is Avenue C is Jago.

876
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,000
 Those signals will be replaced in the next two to three months.

877
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,600
 I think their schedule is about 90 days.

878
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,000
 >> Excuse me, can you tell if that mic is on?

879
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,440
 >> This, I'm sorry.

880
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:45,360
 >> Yeah, because I'm just getting light here and I'm wondering if that's the reason.

881
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,480
 >> Is that why?

882
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:50,160
 >> Do you think it's good?

883
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,080
 >> It looks like it.

884
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,320
 >> Okay, all right.

885
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,000
 No, it's, hey there, back in the booth.

886
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,200
 Notice this, the problem light is on.

887
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:03,800
 >> It's setting tone, it's just flickering.

888
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:12,920
 So Avenue C and Oak, that signal will be replaced in the next two to three months.

889
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,920
 They are going to schedule it so that there are less disruptions to traffic.

890
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:22,080
 They're primarily working on the four corners, so some of the lanes.

891
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:29,160
 >> Okay, thanks.

892
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:30,120
 >> You made him come here.

893
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:40,680
 And then I think we got an update from DCTA, what their plans are.

894
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,480
 They're looking at multiple different things.

895
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:47,600
 And yes, benches and shelters is one aspect of it.

896
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,240
 Striping on forward drive has been completed.

897
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,840
 So we ultimately sneaked in our crews and

898
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,840
 got the things done because we've been waiting on tech stuff for a long time.

899
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,600
 >> Saved me from having to do it in the middle of the night.

900
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,160
 >> [LAUGH]

901
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,120
 >> I've got a striping machine.

902
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,920
 >> [LAUGH]

903
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,840
 >> So we did talk about the one way versus two way streets.

904
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,160
 >> Mm-hm.

905
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,960
 >> We did talk about one way versus two, and Carol wrote that.

906
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:23,280
 So these two will be coming forward to the whole council

907
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,280
 late in October as part of the mobility plan update.

908
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,160
 We looked at the intersection of Bonnie Brand University, one of the things.

909
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,600
 And let me see if I can quickly pull it up there.

910
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,760
 >> Hang on, question, Council Member Briggs.

911
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:45,320
 On the Carol Road diet, will there be data coming with that decision?

912
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,000
 Or is it just kind of hypothetical?

913
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:53,280
 >> No, so as part of our mobility plan, there'll be a full traffic model,

914
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:58,680
 not just for existing conditions, but for future conditions when most of

915
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,920
 the city would be built out, and during that conditions,

916
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,560
 they will have traffic volumes on Carol.

917
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,360
 So it would have an idea of, okay, this is not just only

918
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:13,160
 traffic that's traveling today, but in the future, if we do the one way versus

919
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,360
 two way, what would happen to Carol?

920
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,360
 Would more traffic move to Carol if we change any configuration currently?

921
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,120
 And those numbers will be available in the discussion saying, hey,

922
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,040
 currently there are 10,000 vehicles daily.

923
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,760
 In the future, there'll be 20,000 vehicles daily.

924
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,240
 That's still good enough for a four lane divided facility.

925
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,280
 Carol has six lanes, so we can really go down and reduce it.

926
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,840
 So that's the discussion, and we'll come with data to back it up.

927
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,560
 >> Okay, thank you.

928
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:45,040
 >> Going back to University and Bonnie Bray.

929
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,800
 So I think the request was to put a yield for

930
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:54,960
 pedestrian, one of the things that we found out, especially on this particular arm.

931
01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:01,520
 This is an old signal, there are already quite a few things here.

932
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:07,760
 So in order to add that yield on pedestrian next to this will be a tough.

933
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,320
 If we put it here, it becomes an issue.

934
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,840
 So we're kind of struggling.

935
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:16,040
 This intersection will be redone completely as part of the Bonnie Bray project.

936
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,720
 So it's not far away in the future.

937
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,200
 It's something that's going to happen pretty soon as part of the phase six,

938
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,920
 which is with the high school project coming in.

939
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,240
 And what we're trying to do is, once we get this completely update,

940
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,800
 we'll make sure that we'll have the right signage.

941
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,160
 We're also looking at this corner and seeing if we-

942
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:37,160
 >> Question? >> Yeah.

943
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,480
 >> Yeah, well, just on that, when the school is built down there,

944
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:43,360
 there will be a lot of people, I suspect, walkers.

945
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,760
 If they're walking, that would be the intersection they would use to cross.

946
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,520
 >> Correct. >> And so,

947
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,120
 I'm just throwing that out there.

948
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,680
 I'm sure you've already thought about that, so.

949
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,960
 >> It'll be part of our new signal plan.

950
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,760
 We'll definitely look at adding the yield signage here.

951
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,600
 But we're also looking at this corner, if we can find a place to put that.

952
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,040
 But it's a tough spot, sorry.

953
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:10,120
 All right, I think Mark touched on this.

954
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:15,600
 We're still coordinating some of the access issues at Allison University.

955
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,960
 There is a coordination with TechStop.

956
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,840
 It's TechStop property and private property.

957
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,080
 So we're kind of the mediators trying to move this forward.

958
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,840
 I really want to move.

959
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:33,200
 So TurnBack, we're currently working with legal and

960
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,360
 finalizing the TurnBack memo that was submitted.

961
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,640
 It's a memorandum of understanding from TechStop.

962
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:45,480
 And we're getting close to getting it to council and getting it approved.

963
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:49,680
 And there are several streets on the memorandum of understanding that will be.

964
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,480
 And Elman Locos will be part of that.

965
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:57,440
 So it'll come to council very soon in the next few council meetings,

966
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,840
 within the next few council meetings.

967
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:00,640
 >> I comment on that.

968
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:06,480
 I've seen some comments lately about, I forget which one of those has several

969
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:10,120
 potholes or one of them is in pretty bad shape.

970
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:15,640
 And it was my understanding that TechStop would have to fix those before we get,

971
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,600
 would that be, is that part of the understanding or?

972
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:23,400
 >> So yes, before we take it over, TechStop is going to reconstruct the entire

973
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,200
 length of Locos to Allen.

974
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,080
 That is the understanding.

975
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,120
 That's exactly what's laid out in the MOU.

976
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,600
 >> In our MOU.

977
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,640
 >> What we're doing right now currently is working on a project to

978
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,320
 relocate our utilities and redo our utilities.

979
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:41,000
 Once that utility work is done, we're primarily based in the section south of

980
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:47,760
 the downtown area between, I want to say between Hickory and all the way to Eagle.

981
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,680
 We're working on relocating utilities there currently.

982
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,680
 Once that segment is done, we'll move north up until all the way to university.

983
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,200
 And TechStop will begin their reconstruction project for

984
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,000
 the roadway on the south side.

985
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:07,400
 So yes, they are upgrading the pavement before they hand it over to us.

986
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:12,200
 As far as the forest ridge drive, we did check there were speed surveys back in

987
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:18,480
 April and the 85th percentile speed was 35 miles an hour based on the survey.

988
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:19,600
 We have the files.

989
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:27,200
 So I think at this point, when the, I think when the survey was.

990
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:32,160
 >> Was that what you expected or not or what are the implications of that finding?

991
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,360
 >> Yeah, so I think the road is in fairly bad shape right now.

992
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:42,760
 So that's why the speed is around 35, if you fix the road,

993
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,640
 there might be chances that it may go up.

994
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,480
 So yes, we're definitely doing a speed survey after the road is fixed.

995
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:53,360
 And then, yeah, construction fatigue.

996
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:58,160
 I think you saw the survey from Residence Day, one more construction well maintained.

997
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,360
 No, I'm just kidding.

998
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:05,840
 But definitely, as part of the mobility plan, once we have that in place,

999
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:10,000
 then for future projects, we'll have a better planning,

1000
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,440
 a better idea of how we plan and stage projects.

1001
01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:20,560
 We won't be going in and working on a whole segment in every piece or

1002
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,960
 every part of the city, it'll be more strategic.

1003
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,440
 As part of our, even as part of our bond program for the street rehab,

1004
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:31,360
 we're considering neighborhoods that we go in and do it at once, water, waste water,

1005
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,800
 and streets, and then get out of the neighborhood and don't go there for 30 years.

1006
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,280
 We do not do bits and pieces that we've been doing in the past.

1007
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,760
 So we do have a plan to address construction fatigue.

1008
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,960
 >> And I think that time phase map we talked about before.

1009
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:44,960
 >> Correct. >> Communicate that.

1010
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,320
 Councilmember Briggs, do you have something?

1011
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,080
 >> Any questions?

1012
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,200
 >> Okay.

1013
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,520
 >> Any other questions?

1014
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,960
 >> I actually wanted to reopen item C for a minute.

1015
01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,160
 I had another question for you I neglected to ask, but are we done with staff reports?

1016
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,360
 >> Yes, I think so, unless you have no questions.

1017
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,280
 >> Okay, yeah, if you don't mind.

1018
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,960
 Would you mind coming back, Michelle?

1019
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,840
 So I'm going to reopen item C, which is DCTA update.

1020
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:18,080
 I just forgot to ask you, some time back when Nicole was still on the job,

1021
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:25,040
 we talked about the possibility of altering routes on the west side, bus routes,

1022
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:33,080
 to provide access by mass transit through the razor ranch amenities.

1023
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,440
 And I wonder if you could tell us anything about the status on that.

1024
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,160
 >> I think we are definitely looking at razor ranch, and

1025
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:45,600
 we're more looking at how we serve it with on-demand service versus fixed route service.

1026
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:51,280
 And so that will be part of the planning effort that we're kicking off now for

1027
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:56,720
 the implementation of mobility as a service, is how we serve those areas like razor ranch.

1028
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:05,040
 >> Is that because you don't see the demand for access for workers and

1029
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,680
 transit dependent people to those amenities?

1030
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:14,720
 >> The level of service versus the demand isn't quite there.

1031
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,960
 And we really tried with this last service change not to make major changes to

1032
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,320
 any of the routes, because we didn't want to make changes to the routes and

1033
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,600
 then take a look at the entire system and then change everything again.

1034
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:31,920
 And so we're looking at areas like north of university.

1035
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:37,960
 We've had some requests from the city and council members of serving, like Explorium.

1036
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:43,040
 We don't currently go north of 380, so the question becomes how do we serve 380

1037
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,560
 when the demand for service isn't there to justify a fixed route?

1038
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,680
 And so razor ranch is sort of a similar way.

1039
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,520
 And then like you said, it's retail.

1040
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,480
 Currently our service stops about 9, 930.

1041
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:57,400
 If you're working retail, you're generally working till at least nine.

1042
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,520
 If not later, especially if it's a restaurant,

1043
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,480
 how do we serve those individuals in those areas best?

1044
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:09,000
 And maybe that's not necessarily a fixed route, but some on demand type of service.

1045
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,120
 >> Okay, thanks for coming back to the shared perspective.

1046
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:12,640
 >> No problem.

1047
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:19,000
 >> Okay, so I'll reclose that item and are we then closed on staff reports as well?

1048
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,560
 So concluding items, council member Briggs.

1049
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:27,320
 >> Just one and it's more of a follow up to a message that I sent with the city manager.

1050
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:34,640
 It was about the university and carol intersection and the turn.

1051
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:41,640
 I think there's been a couple accidents there with the yellow turn lights, the yield on yellow.

1052
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:47,720
 It's hard to see if all the other lanes straight in front of you are full.

1053
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,120
 It's hard to see if cars are coming or not.

1054
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:56,520
 People are attempting to turn on the yellow arrow and it's causing accidents or near misses.

1055
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:02,480
 And so that was a, I'm just following up on that because our process has changed and

1056
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:05,920
 I just wanted to make sure that that was looked at in this committee.

1057
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,240
 >> Follow up question on that.

1058
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,760
 This is from University onto Carol.

1059
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,640
 So it's westbound to southbound Carol.

1060
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,480
 Is that the movement?

1061
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:19,600
 I just want to get the movements right so that we're, it's on University.

1062
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,760
 >> I'm not sure exactly, I've heard it from people using in all,

1063
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:30,720
 either coming onto University off Carol by Kroger or by the other intersection.

1064
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:31,600
 >> Okay.

1065
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,000
 >> So, yes, I guess.

1066
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:39,440
 >> We'll definitely look at all directions and make some changes as a matter of signal.

1067
01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:43,120
 >> With accident data, I don't have the data to prove it.

1068
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:48,360
 I've just had people send me messages and there was a pretty bad accident recently.

1069
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:48,880
 >> Okay.

1070
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,480
 >> So, I'm just following up on that.

1071
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:55,680
 >> Mr. Brian, any items?

1072
01:29:55,680 --> 01:30:01,600
 >> Yeah, I've got one and I've already brought this up in engineering, but I'll just put it on the record.

1073
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:07,040
 And that is at Dallas and Teasley, especially when you are southbound

1074
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,000
 Dallas Drive turning onto Teasley Lane, taken right there.

1075
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:17,440
 Where the old pavement and new pavement and new pavement and curve line up.

1076
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,840
 There are some dips.

1077
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:22,340
 >> Okay.

1078
01:30:22,340 --> 01:30:29,280
 >> They're not truly potholes because the pavement is still there, the pavement has just sunk.

1079
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:35,080
 >> So, this is, you're talking about the right turn lane or the left turn lane?

1080
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:36,520
 >> This is on the right turn lane.

1081
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,440
 >> For the southbound right onto Teasley.

1082
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:44,800
 >> Onto Teasley and then as you get onto Teasley where we widen the road just before the,

1083
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:48,280
 you have that triangle of new pavement where we widened it.

1084
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,400
 There's a huge bump right there as well.

1085
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,400
 >> I know what you're talking about.

1086
01:30:51,400 --> 01:31:08,240
 >> I'm trying to remember the name of that street that I know we've communicated about.

1087
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:12,840
 That's just a short segment that connects between Sherman and Bell.

1088
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,080
 Sherman and Bell.

1089
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,320
 >> That's it.

1090
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,080
 It was wood something.

1091
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:29,440
 Yeah, I just wanted to thank you for getting out there and filling about six potholes.

1092
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:35,480
 I suspect while the crew was out there, you probably noticed that everything that isn't

1093
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:39,000
 a pothole is almost as bad as a pothole on that one block.

1094
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,440
 And I appreciate your attention on that matter.

1095
01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:47,520
 >> Thank you, I'll let Danny know.

1096
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,920
 He runs our street crews.

1097
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:57,360
 >> I'll be interested to hear sort of what that timing is for kind of a complete resurfacing.

1098
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,160
 It's about the worst stretch I've seen in Den of a block.

1099
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,960
 >> Maybe there are other candidates.

1100
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,160
 >> You just opened up.

1101
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:07,560
 >> Yeah, okay.

1102
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:12,760
 Maybe we should have a little moment at each meeting to try to pick what is the worst segment in Den.

1103
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,880
 Candidates?

1104
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,280
 All right, I like that.

1105
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,320
 Okay, that's everything then.

1106
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:20,960
 Thank you very much.

1107
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:26,280
 We'll conclude the meeting at 943.

1108
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:26,780
 >> Thank you.